Sniffing Gio's Dust EditionGGST 2.0 and Jam starter guidehttps://youtu.be/mLGruVR6VkM [Embed] [Open] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed]https://youtu.be/MIJwA7Pu9Ns [Embed] [Open] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed]GGST 2.0 and Jam are live!Blazing battle pass: MayRobo=Ky: Summer>RESOURCESMain wiki with frame data and information about system mechanics: https://www.dustloop.comFighting game glossary: https://glossary.infil.net/Deflect Shield OS tech: https://youtu.be/zmQeJLe_w9U [Embed] [Open] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed]>Replay Uploadershttps://replaytheater.app/?game=xrdhttps://replaytheater.app/?game=acprhttps://replaytheater.app/?game=strive>Xrd/+R/#R/ML Resourceshttps://www.reddit.com/r/Guiltygear/wiki/learngg/https://github.com/YouKnow232/ggxxacpr_overlay/releaseshttps://www.dustloop.com/w/GGXRD-R2/Resourceshttps://github.com/WistfulHopes/ggml_public/releases>Current GGST Patch 2.0 (April 9th)https://www.guiltygear.com/ggst/en/news/post-2851/>Guilty Gear Soundtrackshttps://mega.nz/folder/VRxC2JqT#E0Jfw9f_yEwIV6yFgXnDZw/>/ggg/ APPROVED Strive modsPotato Mod Lite: https://gamebanana.com/mods/299494/Potato Low Spec: https://gamebanana.com/mods/296927/Frame Data Display/Replay Takeover 1.49+: https://github.com/WistfulHopes/UE4SSMods/releases/tag/replay-0.2.4SLASH: >>565001403
>>565298862OMG it Jaggu
>>565298862Very nice.
Femcel in Jaggo cosplay shoving her boobs in my face.
holy dead game
Why is strive Sol's strategy page on dustloop so fucking high effort and good?
>>565306943What does Sajam think of this?
so, what's the counterplay to master's hammer, assuming the slayer does that shit on block all day?i've tried 5P/6P him out of it but i got counterhit anyway
>>565307817You can grab him right as he lands, before the attack comes out, or jump up and air grab him if he's mashing it every chance he gets. Backdashing when you see he's going for it is also viable.
>>565308067thanks>You can grab him right as he lands, before the attack comes outah, it's one of those weird ones
>>565307817dunno how, but all the sweaty fucks I've seen consistently grab it that it's just suicide at that level
>>565308534The easiest way to get out is to just simply jump, but it's kinda what he wants you to do in response to seeing a dandy step coming out, so you'll eat It's Late instead, and get put back where he wants you to be. Practice recognizing the dandy followups, so you're not reacting to dandy step itself, and you'll beat Slayer more often than not.
>>565308917oh, i know about the other followups. i frankly just eat shit if he puts me in the high/low/left/right blender.but it was kinda annoying to get blasted by the supposedly slow pressure reset option.i'll try practicing the grab
>>565307817Just jump and punish it, throwing it isn't worth the risk, especially in a situation where you're assuming he'll definitely do it. It's not going to hit you airborne so jumping and punishing with a jumping normal is very reliable.
does Giovanna have a roundstart button that isnt a hard callout?feels like shes always on the backfoot
>>565310031Either back-dash and play her bait and punish neutral game, or mash 5H.
>>565306943when do they show Robo-Ky then?
>>565313275I wish they would add Testament to Strive :(
>>565313275Don't think we're gonna get a Robo-Ky trailer. Evo NA is less than 2 months away
>>565313383if they added testament to strive you would just cry about all the changes and neutered move list.
>>565298378yo I love the Gio OPs keep em coming but can we please get rid of the [Embed] [Open] spam
>>565313383>>565315282am I missing something isn't Testament already in Strive
>>565316594What you're seeing is a tongue-in-cheek comment made in reference to the fact that Strive's version of Testament does not represent what the character of Testament has historically been in terms of personality, visual design or gameplay. By suggesting that Testament is not in Strive, the posters are really inferring that they do not recognize Strive Testament as the same character from older games due to the immense changes the character has undergone.
>/ggg/ "humor"
>>565298378more embeds my negro more embeds
>>565316860
Ah yes, another day is blessed upon me, for I am awake It is time to 2.0ITS ALL GONE DOWN SO DEEP I CANT SEE ANYMORE
>2001 game>has quick select for training modeuhhh arcsys???
>>565318071Do women really do that?
>>565298378i love women in tight pantsthank you for reading my post
>>565320017You're welcome
>>565319382Only when it's for a photoshoot designed to milk lonely men of their money.
>>565321060I didn't realize I was so inspirational
Can someone give me a new steam wallpaper for GGST? I can't take it how Sol looks like an Otome male lead.
Really basic question but what is the order of inputs you have to do to RC with the kind of momentum that launches you across the screen. Seen Goldlewis players for example do an air BT RC that sends them flying. When I was trying to practice it I could never get much forward momentum.
>>565342048You airdash, and then you do a drift forward BRC and fast cancel it.
>>565342048To phrase what >>565345627 said more clearly: you forward drift RC during your airdash, and fast cancel it into whatever button / special you want. It conserves the momentum from the dash and also adds the momentum from the forward drift having been fast cancelled.
>SQ's takes are so famouly bad you have to wonder if it's deliberate gaslighting, extremely simple playstyle, wins mostly by just being better>RedDitto doesn't stream or really discuss the character, pulls out witchcraft and leaves you to try and figure out his (many) perfectly timed manual delays, exactly 2f microdashes, and other such bullshitcan we get a third good Ram maybe eventually...?
RIP LordKnight, sad to see him go out like that
thanks for changing the name back to ggg i kept forgetting the other acronym because im OLDnerf ky btw
>>565349310You're over 15h late to make that joke
>Duel station unavailable>Failed to match with opponent>"Here, do you want to play against this dude who is afk on a station? No? Ok, we'll ask again in 10 seconds">ping takes over 5 seconds to appearI'd forgotten how garbage the UX was in this game. I just want to play long sets against people roughly equal to my skill level, why the fuck do fighting games have such trouble at achieving such a simple task?
>>565349310Qrd
>>565350580If you want that you should accept you're going to have to use discord or something outside the game itself. If you want to just play the game without arranging something just do ranked. At absolute minimum, you should go into the park and just standby in training mode, actually walking around the park isn't worth it at all.
>>565351060He was choked to death by blonde milf thighs.
>get a punish instead of a counter on my 2k>punish and small counter displays are basically the same so try to convert into a counter only combo>whiff and get obliteratedhuh, never realized how annoying it was for hitting prejump to now register as a punish.
>>565298378Gio's brown dust
>>565351476>you should go into the park and just standby in training modeThat has all the issues I mentioned before, especially this one:>"Here, do you want to play against this dude who is afk on a station? No? Ok, we'll ask again in 10 seconds"Again what I ask is hardly impossible, SF6 has a convenient button where you can just invite your ranked opponent to continue the set for as long as you like after your ranked FT2. Literally a single button easily solves this.
>>565352929I'm not saying Strive doesn't need that, I'm just saying it doesn't have it so you have to put up with it and make do. It is shit though, of course.
>>565319382all the time but only when you're not looking
>>565352929does anyone actually ever use that thoughI remember when I played SF6 I only ever saw it happen thrice, and twice it was to talk shit and dip
>>565353672french bread games(MBTL/uni2) have it and we use it a lot.
>>565352929>SF6 has a convenient button where you can just invite your ranked opponent to continue the set for as long as you like after your ranked FT2. Literally a single button easily solves this.That sounds great; I'd love to have the option to either play again ranked (with a re-match maximum) or continue playing them non-ranked. I have the most fun playing people slightly better than me for 10+ games in park.
wait do some of chipp's crossup specials actually hit sameside? just had a match where I blocked a lot sameside by complete accident and didn't get mixed once
hell fire is growing on me after all of these years
>>565357558Yeah, it's a pretty baller villain song.
They need to buff Jam's air options. She needs it.
I did it, bros
PC room up for gigachads only, your skill level need not apply Lobby ID: 711723
>>565361539Ggs friends sorry I had to disband early I'll be back on later for more whoopins My defense is so shit
>>565363464>My defense is so shitJust block on wake-up more.
Im new how do i play venom
>>565363804stinga
>>565366327>stingawho's gonna tell him
>>565367170st-stinga???
>>565361210gz
Anyone else in western Canada have a horrible time getting good connections in any FG? I have gigabit fiber and a non-existent bufferbloat and still have a hard time getting connections better than 80-90ms. Strive feels like a discord fighter under these conditions.Any insight, advice or ball busting for being a FUCKING LEAF welcome.
>>565361210>actual good players among usit can't be...
>>565368836in general it just feels like west coast doesn't play fighting games at all. I'm in the same boat, all my connections are across the country.
I fucking HATE the Axel buffs not becaus he deals like twice as much damage off any poke now but because his combos last fucking FOREVER, even the low damage ones
>>565369963Yeah I usually queue up east as well when I want to press buttons. I want to grind vanquisher ranks, but cross nation connections don't feel worth it.
>2.0 was supposed to be the "nerf patch">lots of strong characters weren't meaningfully nerfed some buffed even>most logical thing would be to nerf them in robo-ky patch to properly finish the 2.0 vision>they'll probably just start randomly buffing "weak" aka actually balanced characters again turning game back into S4 slop
>>565371715Outside of Testament, is there any character that actually NEEDS buffs? It feels like everyone is perfectly serviceable right now and absolutely disgusting when they have an advantage, which feels like the intended design. It's more just that the top tiers need nerfs.
>>565371038*AXL BOMBAHs this post*
>>565306781Leftovers from when he was top 1Same reason Happy Chaos has an actual strategy pageA billion words with absolutely no substance on both
>>565372556I think several characters have parts of their kits that are borderline useless now, but the character is strong enough in other areas so it doesn't matter as much. For example Baiken's pretty good right now but the parry has been reduced to a joke. So would like to see buffs to certain moves that they are actually viable to use and not useless garbage, but with compensation nerfs so that the powerlevel doesn't get out of hand again.
>>565369963This has been known for years
>>565368836Is your connection still shit when playing people in LA etc (where a lot of people do play FGs)? I'm in the GTA and the best I get is like 18-24ms (presumably to people in my same area), but usually closer to 50-60ms for people in EC US. In my professional opinion our last mile / residential ISP service is a joke compared to urban Europe and Japan (likely Korea and China as well). When I worked at a local college we got a direct line to TORIX put in (peering / literal space a 151 Front was a hot commodity), so even while being 40km away we had ~1ms RTT to other TORIX peers; that shit is ~14-20ms from home at about the same distance.
>>565372556fix hand of doom nigga
What the FUCK is a "Mappa Hunch"?
>>565373989>but with compensation nerfs so that the powerlevel doesn't get out of hand againnigga they have shown time and time again that they're incapable of doing either one of these things, asking tehm to do both can ONLY end poorly
>>565375321I think the intention was that it's slurring mach punch to emphasize the speediness
>>565374608usually it's unstable with Cali people and can clock around 40-100ms. hard to say at that point if it's people using wifi or just bad routing up to Canada.
>>565374928no, kys, Slayer doesn't need a GOOD pseudo DP
>have a game winning combo>drop it trying to hit Weapons Free>hit the american reset>Weapons Free whiffs I appreciate that it's an actual move now but can't they just... make it less god awful to land?I don't know make it a bit faster, or go a bit farther, there's so few things you can combo it from to begin with, and anything other than c.S or 2S has either really finnicky spacing or really finnicky timing
>>565376371which is weird because he says it very clearly and preciselyexcept when he goes MMMAGHUNCH
>>565368836ping is a bad measure of connection quality, all you're really seeing is distance and 80ms isn't enough raw delay to cause issues in good rollback. If you're getting a lot of significantly bad connections at sub 100ms the problem is instability rather than ping. Use ethernet instead of wifi, avoid other wifi fags, make sure your network isn't set up retarded like multiple routers all doing NAT, otherwise just bitch out your ISP for overselling nodes. Sometimes changing DNS servers can help if it just happens to route smoother.
unigger players deserve nothing
>>565379375who do you play
>>565381496My main? Kyle Kiske, of course
>>565381496Sol Badguy
>>565379338I know overall ping is a bad way to measure connection quality, but when it comes to fighting games and especially ones running on UE, anything over 70ms feels horrible. Strive rollback is not good despite what people think. As for the rest of it, I only use ethernet, I dodge wifi players, single router and have experimented with other DNS and have stuck with Cloudflare. Next step would be to talk to my ISP, but I get solid results when doing network speed and latency tests. Feels like I've done all I can on my end aside from move but lol no
>>565381675>>565382235I was thinking about the obvious, how both are better than Unika, but then I realized... So is Sin, really. Is Unika the worst gg-styled "shoto"?
>>565381496Kliff
>Unika is worse than ky and solnot even worth a greentext you
>>565379375but she's popular with the never-played-a-FG-before-and-doesn't-understand-interaction-on-the-receiving-end-of-a-disjointed-gorilla crowdso if there ever is another round of new Specials, she'll get something for suremaybe even 2
>>565382562in what scrubby parallel universe is a character who can only opress people with knowlege checks worse than ""Honest"" ""Mids"" Kyle
>>565382407she's trying her best
Coming from SF6, who’s the most Honda? I’m trying to bully with some frame data
>>565385969May is a pretty easy pick in that regard. If you wanna be a faggot with plus frames and having good options even when you're negative, Slayer is a good pick
>>565382390NTA but it's not your connection, Strive's rollback has always been imperfect at best.
>>565385969May has similar charge specials but in terms of being slow and frame trap heavy, probably Goldlewis
>>565387139>>565386889Don't care for child characters so wasn't too interested in May but I was considering Goldlewis. My only issue is I think I might be too much of a paste eater for BT execution. Find myself getting accidental 2H a lot.
Robo=Ky trailer at evoj or too early?
>>565387395May is an adult woman... But Thyphoons are mostly just habit and muscle memory. Unless you're using like, a controller d-pad, that's kinda miserable.
>>565387538Why do you still expect things from Arc Sys?
dont dizzy's arms get tired
Has Elphelt always been able to convert any hit into run up combo command throw or is that new? I don't remember seeing it before. It's fucking disgusting it extends every combo by like 4 seconds.
>elphelt>command throw
>>565375321it apparently is "Mach Punch" in Japanesejust all the Kanji conjugation/truncation rules make it something like MA'PPA'ANCHI
>>565388947is it not a command throw? well call it her mega super homofaggot deluxe idgaf this character deserves no respect
>>565389698i like when he says "mappa hanchii" for his super
>>565387538they've run out of interns to sacrificewait for the next financial year
Landing a regular grab on Potemkin when I'm playing Elphelt always makes me kekHe looks so concerned about the thing he's receiving...I know that's just how Potemkin reacts in general but here I get a little closeup of it, and I get to see it for like a full second.
Ran a set with a Ky for the first time since the patch and man why do they want you to do about his projectile now, just hold it? Projectile you can’t jump is kinda fucked
Man going into Park for the first time is humbling. Could barely touch people with Goldlewis
>>565391923You can try to time your air dash to mess his timing, but they mainly want you to block, which is conceptually kinda fucked.
for the guy who loves... to streamboar.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiT1QZrvJIUhttps://www.twitch.tv/evojapan01
>>565393270simply jd
>>565393270Maybe you're not Typhooning enough in neutral? Or not using drone when you could?
does anyone want a lobby to play some GUILTY GEAR -STRIVE-
>>565395082Mayhaps
>>565391923they didn't nerf attack level is why, on a fullscreen spammable now verti-horizontal projectilehow that's allowed when Anji's dogshit he can only pull of oki has been level 1 for the longest time
>>565394816Was finding myself getting whiff punished a lot but I also kinda suck with him right now. Don’t have combos and the proper uses for each individual BT down yet. Lack of optimization really did me in
just 6p lol
>>565395384lobby code 124578ft3 winner staysna ec but all regions welcome
Can someone explain why the slow big bodied characters who are supposed to be low mobility always have incredible jumping normals in every single fighting game
>>565387538Too early. Maybe it's just gonna be the blazing pass release date trailer since it's around May.
>>565394456ty
>>565396605Sorry, trying to play after the pub / a week off was a mistake
Who wants to work for the government?
>>565388858Doing the S followup on her rekka now staggers which lets her throw you. That is a 2.0 change.
>>565401948>Wageslaving
>>565396605does anyone else want to play some GUILTY GEAR -STRIVE- before I close the lobby in about 5 minutes>>565400357All good bro
>>565396605Ggs everyone lobby is CLOSED!!!!!
>>565404790GGs
>>565404790Elphelt's cake...
Why is it that the more time I put into a play session the worse I get?
>>565406053unless you are michael phelps or hopped up on methamphetamines its normal to get worse from physically tiring or mentally taxing activities
Jaggo's minion things are kinda cute desu
>>565406339>or hopped up on methamphetamineswhich all of your antidepressant popping adhd med taking energy drink downing because they're trans opponents are, remember
>game has spent the last 15 minutes trying to match me against the same 160ms niggerI wish there was some kind of loop counter on this shit like FUCK if you're gonna ignore my settings at least don't do it every 30 seconds
Why does getting one and doned enrage me so much
>>565409286Just... block him?
>get placed in gold 3>lose the next 10 gamesCool
I’ll never get how Leo isn’t Top 1. All the other top tiers feel like they’ve got clear counter play it’s just varying degrees of difficult whereas I don’t know what weakness you could convince me Leo has. Most privileged character in the game.
>>565409608it's not I'm given a name to try
>>565411663You'd have to play 1 game; in the post-game screen you could block them
should i learn ABA?
>>565411158I thought it was confirmed he's one of the dev favouritesbefore 2.0, he received buffs because "he had trouble opening people up" like fucking twice
>>565411158You can't create a character as cool looking as Leo and not make him top tier, you just can't.
>>565413538leo looks lame, most gg characters do actually
>>565413815ok fag
>decide to stop being an ape and try to properly dash block into Dizzy>the moment she makes me block one normal she shits out a blockstring with 10 trillion untis of pushbackwait so is guessing with retarded neutral skips the INTENDED way of dealing with this bitch???
>>565412123it was a mutual thing anon, neither wanted ot play, if I didn't make it clearthat's why it's so fucking retarded that the game keeps trying to force itor at least, it went on like that for some 40 minutes, until we finally played once
>>565414113many such cases against zoners
>Invincible VS releases>the fucking DLC doesnt work on Steamwhy does every fighting game have to instantly kneecap their potential audience because of some major launch fuckup?It happened with Melty, happened with strive, granblue, sf6.These games would be so much bigger if they didnt trip at the starting gate
>>565416579MY SMOKEAPI AIN'T WORKING.
Who will come out on top
>>565417693Lucky
>>565417991Cookie
>>565418147https://x.com/FakeRoronoaZoro/status/1849815007015600554
link to youtube stream?
>>565418465mandatory watch
>>565418735After Granblue is Strivehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLh5Fmsr8QgOr you can watch Tokon while waiting for Strivehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xiT1QZrvJIU
damn this elphelt bridget ship goes way back
>>565418946>you can move before roundstart instant kusoge
>>565417693>5 Jacks, Asukas, Kys>4 Chaos'>1 Jam, Lewis, May, Anji, Test, ABA>0 Axls, Beds, Elphs, Dizzy, Venom, UngaI sometimes wonder if the balance team is also swayed by popularity at public tournament play
>>565417693Damn I thought there would be more Jams.
>>565417693Wew packed.
>>565419314Japanese tournament play and Japanese public sentiment are the only two things they consider when patching. It's why HC got away with being uncontested top 1 character for so long: he wasn't played in Japan, so they thought he was fine. It was only after a fucking child started getting into top 8s with him in Japan that they realized there might be a bit of a problem. Same applies to Leo even now: he has been top 3 since release but Japanese think he's ugly and uncool so don't play him, so he just gets buff after buff.
>>565420889except they balance this game based off of twitter opinions and internal biases towards certain characters since season 1
>>565421141Internal biases sure, but only Japanese twitter opinions count, which is included under the heading of 'Japanese public sentiment'. You are delusional if you think they care about English twitter opinions when they can't even read or understand English. What, you think they have an intern whose job is to translate Leffen's tweets?
>>565421376>japanese twitterlolhow are you this deluded after so many patches, it's clearly english twitter where they get their dogshit balance patches the most blatant one was the dp rc change
>>565421491Proofs?
Hello /ggg/ new player hereWhat's the counter play to that thing Nagoriyuki does where he teleports right to you and attacks you, but then he pulls off the *it was a hologram* when you try to counter attack? What am I missing here?
>>565407462Servants have rights. Servants are people
>>565423880kekHe looks so happy...
>>565423932Look at him go!
>>565423502hello, new /ggg/ playerI regret to inform you that many of Nagoriyuki's kit has zero counterplayplease enjoy your stay in Miyauchi-Katano hell
>>565424173kekSo I'm NOT missing anything here then? I have to either somehow stuff it before it hits me, dodge it or just take it? Surely some characters can punish it on block
meanwhile, on planet kusoge...
>>565425971Heand I say this with absolute sincerityneeds it
>>565386889>having good options even when you're negative, Slayeryou can be negative with slayer? that's news to me
>>565426920If may surprise you, but he is technically negative on some things, but when he's negative, he has such good buttons and evasive options he may as well be plus
>>565426350Im really liking it so far. it's very versatile.>what's the counterplaycounterplay?
logging into strive for my nightly flagellation
>>565427054You really just make these for the love of the game? All the webms you post tend to have pretty cool stuff, but it's ultimately just for yourself, no? If you wanted, you could probably post this stuff on xitter or something and get a sizable following cuz of how creative and cool this stuff is, but you've been here for what feels like years
>>565427054>>565425971shades of caitlyn's aegis from 2xko on that second onethat's pretty sick but when do we get to play with it
>>565425971>>565427054Do NOT let Cygames see this...Please
man i did not play throughout s3 or s4 so i never really fought slayer in strive but this character is genuinely such a fucking joke lol what the fuck...
>>565427654Cait could set up shield on knockdowns in the corner to get a throw combo on your wakeup, imagine Leo getting a full combo off his throw in the corner
We watching the top 8 tomorrow?
>>565427261i have a channel i sometimes update, but i mostly just mod this game because it's genuinely the most fun i've had with a video game and i don't really play other games. >>565427654>that's pretty sick but when do we get to play with iti dunno. i want everyone to have everything and leave out anyone IF i ever finish it. i've actually restarted fresh for 2.0 because i didn't like the direction it was heading, so who really knows. projects like this rarely get finished.
>>565424567>Surely some characters can punish it on blockNago's gimmick is that he can cancel his specials into other specials at the cost of "blood". Subsequently, none of his specials are punishable in any real sense of the word, all of them acts as frametraps where he has the potential to counter-hit you into oblivion if you dare to challenge him.He's balanced by the fact that if his blood gauge fills up completely, he goes into blood rage where he gets access to fullscreen chip-damage dealing normals, a fullscreen invincible super that deals 70% damage and free game pause once the state ends where the game freezes you so Nago can choose the most beneficial option for himself. (Imagine if another install character used to have that but then they took it away, hahah wouldn't that be just crazy and reek of dev favoritism hahah).
>>565428136oh, i know, i've been a victim of it
>>565428448>Nago's gimmick is that he can cancel his specials into other specials at the cost of "blood". Subsequently, none of his specials are punishable in any real sense of the word, all of them acts as frametraps where he has the potential to counter-hit you into oblivion if you dare to challenge him.ooooh OK I'm starting to get the pictureThanks for spoon feeding, that actually does make a lot more sense now.
why are the devs so slow with patches? i think infinites should be out of the game by now, along with buffs for unfairly nerfed champs
>>565429232One more thing to note is that he doesn't have a regular forward dash, but does have a command dash that counts as a special move. So he can cancel any special into either forward or backward moving dash. The command dash looks kind of like a teleport, with him fading in and out like a mirage. He can sent out the clone and do his dash behind it, which can make it look like he's teleporting to the clone after it hits, but doesn't have to.The clone also destroys all other non-super projectiles, because of course it does.
>>565429329Chiisana kazoku kaisha, wakari onegai shimasu.
>>565429637>So he can cancel any special into either forward or backward moving dash. The command dash looks kind of like a teleport, with him fading in and out like a mirage. He can sent out the clone and do his dash behind it, which can make it look like he's teleporting to the clone after it hits, but doesn't have to.I've seen that several times but I didn't understand what the fuck was happening or why it seemed different every time.Holy fuck, that's horseshitThanks again for helping me at least understand the logic behind it
>>565429815wwwwwwwww
>>565429828Yeah. He can do even further bullshit like sending out clone, dashing forward behind it and then dashing back and counter-hitting you with his half-screen normals after you foolishly thought you were allowed to press buttons.
How many HC infinites have seen?
>>565430137In EVO Japan right now?
>>565430284Oh woah turns out its 0?LOL
>>565395601Saved.
>>565421491Considering NA's been bitching about HC for nearly 5 years, and they refuse to make their worst creation anything but top-1, no.>dp rc changeThis was a good change. 50% meter shouldn't be a get out of jail free card + advantage state.>"B-but previous installments!"It was shit then, too.
>>565432778>NA's been bitching about HC for nearly 5 years90% of the english ggst "scene" defends hc because they slurp hc player cock (umisho, jack, leffen for some fucking reason). in s1 when he was full screen locking people down, the loud retarded masses were baying "there's options just play more carefully" same as they are right fucking now
>watching CotW stream, Preecha vs Marco on>neutral tense as fuck with feints out the ass>apparently Feints are a system mechanic with all chars having 1-3 eachthat's sick
>>565433579Loved feint and braking moves. Pretty good for combo extenders too.
>>565429828just be wary, if he explodes because he fills up his gauge, he starts to RAPIDLY hemorrhage health and he's minus a quadrillion.if you block it/see his pop in neutral, you can literally take a promenade, go up to him and 100-0 in a single combo
>>565433897>he's minus a quadrillion.He's only -12 with plenty of pushback. If you airblock it, you are minus and even ground-blocking you probably aren't getting a c.S punish unless you were right next to him.
I NEED MUH FUGGING CROSSUP
STFU Leffen
>>565432778NA's twitter troons defend HC though, so you are actually fucking retarded.ONLY UMISHO CAN DO THATUM ACTUALLY JACK IS LIKE SUPER SKILLED AT THE GAME
>>565439696>NA's twitter troons defend HC thoughpost examples then
found out recently that Giovanna 5H moves her very slightly forward and this combined with her close slash buff gives her yet another dumbass throw Oki option that covers Backdash/Mash/Jump/Throw because of course it does its funny
is it just me or are bedman and nagoryuki too fucking fat to use consistent corner oki on?potemkin does not seem to have this issue
The hype is already dead before EVO Japan can conclude this game is just years of wasted potential and disappointment
>smurf elo nuke on bad wifi connection
>Tune in to watch UNI>Character is called 'Ogre'>Looks like Michael JacksonHow did they get away with this?
>>565444185The worst part about this image is that I don't know how much of it is real zoomer slang and how much is made-up stuff for comic effect.
>>565445102All of it's real, but it needs a bit more sigmas.
>>565441367but if you close your eyes...
>>565445102the only thing that isnt real is "epstituationship" but you should know most of this isn't actual gen alpha slang its what aging zoomers think Millenial slang is
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>>565442927they probably really do have only 4-5 staff working on this shitwhy it took 3 years to add a few specials and 5 years to reduce the damage2028 and we'll see the next Dev Backyard
>>565432778Why not just remove RC entirely if you don’t want it to be used for what it’s supposed to be used for? Remove airdashing (they pretty much did), hell just remove Sol (they pretty much did). Make every character replaced by Bridget with different weapons.
>>565440589he literally did retard?
>>565448773What if RC is actually meant to be used for pressure, combos and neutral and isn't supposed to turn your meterless reversal into a "I win the game" button as soon as you hit 50% tension?
>>565450339It’s a strong tool but it’s how it’s supposed to be. Removing RC for only certain moves just defeats the purpose.
>>565451262Not this shit again. We already settled this: RC has been an inconsistently applied mechanic since it's introduction.
>>565451554Not true, there were no moves you could just randomly not rc
>>565451554I remember people giving you examples of how RC works and you just kept yelling it's inconsistent and pretending to not understand
>>565451631What about throws? What about FRC? What about Grand Viper in Xrd? What about all the DPs in Xrd?
BRC should be locked coming from a wallbreak
>>565451758Dp is the same as grand viper, and any other strike, if it hits or gets blocked you can rc it. Frc is a separate mechanic and literally a different color from rc and has a different purpose.
>>565451974>Dp is the same as grand viper, and any other strike, if it hits or gets blocked you can rc itIN XRD MOTHERFUCKER, CAN YOU READ?>Frc is a separate mechanic and literally a different color from rc and has a different purpose.Again you retard, if FRC isn't a RC, then there are moves that you can't RC during specific frames because they have FRC window and the input is the same.You also failed to address throws, because they completely destroy your argument about there not being moves you can't randomly RC.
>>565452193I don’t feel like repeating all this because you just act like a retard either on purpose or naturally, and can’t understand the mechanics. It’s definitely a bad change.
>>565452447You are the one who literally can't read and jump to explain how a thing works in +R when my example specified it was from Xrd. So who is the fucking retard here? And you wouldn't be repeating anything, as you never addressed the throws or the FRC argument, because again they completely demolish any idea that RC was ever consistent.
>>565452193you can RC grand viper on block in Xrd doing it on hit is literally a bnb of sol
>>565453152Yeah, but you can't RC it on whiff, while you can RC other whiffed moves (IN XRD!!!!), including other low profile moves on whiff. Ergo Xrd RC is inconsistently applied and there are moves that you can't sometimes RC (IN XRD!!!!).
>>565453481grand viper isn't just a low profiling move.it's frame 1 low profile to the point where it avoids 90% of moves and becomes strike invul
>>565453913I can understand why it isn't whiff-RC:able from a balance perspective, just as I understand why Strive DPs aren't RC:able from a balance perspective. That's fine by me. It just isn't consistent, and I use it as an example of there having always been moves that you randomly can or cannot RC.
>>565454080it is consistent, you are literally just doing this thing >>565452370it's a reversal because it basically avoids almost every attack so it can't be RC'd on whiff
Hear me out. There's not actually a need to nerf all the strong characters. If Arcsys just has the Yakuza break the knees of anyone who plays the top tiers with repeat offenders eventually going for a swim then we can solve all balance issues with the top tiers.
can xturd stroke be rc'd on whiff
>>565454174A highly evasive move isn't a reversal. What you are doing is conflating things that aren't the same so you can pretend that things you like are consistent. It's fine if things are inconsistent, that's not a criticism or an attack on the game you like. Claiming that I'm pretending to be willfully ignorant while also arguing that 'actually low-profiles are reversals' is laughable, there is an obvious massive difference between the two.Even if I were to grant this fallacious argument that this particular (This is what is known as a hypothetical, so before you read further, first answer me this: "How would you feel if you hadn't had breakfast?") low-profile is a reversal (it isn't, this is a hypothetical remember) there would still be the larger inconsistency of not being able to whiff-RC reversals while being able to whiff-RC other moves (including parries).
the lack of single player content is why it cannot keep a casual player base, the non-interactive story mode is dumb, the arcade mode is not sufficient and instead of fixing that they added a team battle mode that doesn't even have staying power
>>565455030>the lack of single player content is why it cannot keep a casual player basefortnitecall of dutyleague/dotaoverwatchwhatever that riot shooter that started with V wasDeadlockTf2
Grok post the achievement percentages for SF6 World Tour please.
>>565454749stroke isn't frame 1frame 1 is special because it means it's actually viable to use on wakeup
>>565455030Is anyone actually playing sf6s openslop mode?
>>565455256A jab is viable to use on wakeup too, doesn't make it a reversal.
>>565455178those games are team-based, and i could also easy list concord, high guard, last flag, wildgate and a bunch of other dead games>>565455317the only country that matters does
>w-well those games are team-basedI like how you're so retarded that you actually almost got it on your own and then just turned around and refused to
>>565455178>fortniteHas tons of events and alternative game modes that can be played single player, though that hasn't always been the case>call of dutyUsually has a campaign mode, and for a long time has had non-pvp cooperative modes like zombies>league/dota>overwatch>Valorant>Deadlock>Tf2All team team games; totally different appeal.I don't think it's that big of a deal to not have a lot of single player content, or at least that alone won't magically fix everything. People rave about BB story content but those games are dead. I think having some more substantial story content as part of the onboarding alongside the missions would be good though; like specific character fights where the AI has a SPECIFIC strategy it tries to employ to force you to develop counterplay (learning how to learn).
Out of the top 10 most played steam games at this very moment, there is ONE game with ANY singleplayer content.
>>565455376that loses to every meaty in the game, it's not viable on wakeup.mashing on wakeup in Xrd is terrible. throws aren't standard inputs in that game, all throws are option selected with strikes.you can't even use a lot of projectile oki against sol like meaty CSE just straight up loses to grand viper unless you RC it so you can block the eventual frame 1 grand viper on wakeup that avoids 90% of moves on frame 1 but "it isn't actually a reversal".
>>56545531710% of the players that own a copy completed it. Par for the course compared to other fighting game and multiplayer shooter campaigns
>>565427168wait, Dariusfag and Leofag are the same people?
Reminder that Grub has a 6+ hour singleplayer rpg beat-em up campaign that introduces you to every character, complete with bossfights against unique pve bosses with cool songs, and the entire thing has co-op availableYour response, singleplayerfags?
>>565457154Meh uncomparable to BBCF 50 hour VN mode.
>>565457154it also has a mini version of grid autism, there were also secret tasks to unlock Vyrn weapons grub single player is pretty cool
>>565445102https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6D8EUUV448
>>565457961and yet
>>56545640ntaavoiding 90% of moves isn't a reversal dude. DPs wouldn't be reversal if they only worked against "90% of moves".just accept and move on, you yourself know it's an arbitrary decision by the Devs. it makes sense as a balance adjustment but it's an inconsistency
Reminder to ignore any posts calling it grand viper
How about gurando vaipah?
>>565458196I'd much rather play my dead shit than slime it up with 100 million people. But what does that have to do with anything?Besides, it doesn't take much longer for me to find matches in GBVSR over GGST. +R is faster than both...
>>565458607>But what does that have to do with anything?WE HAVE LITERALLY BEEN TALKING ABOUT PLAYER NUMBERS FOR THE PAST FORTY MINUTES
I read a thing saying publishers have known for a long time story mode does nothing for retention and only drives sales numbersThere's apparently a whole legion of people too who only grind the story mode related content that gets released, like the gear system from the injustice games or the world tour avatar stuff, the story mode funnels these people into their own ecosystem instead of interacting with the main multiplayer modes and don't ever not be a casualStory modes don't do shit, just accept fgs are a dead niche genre, it's common schizo bait too so that's how you know you're on the wrong side of the debate
the joke is that the only reason why they made the change to DP to randomly not work on block is because they gutted backdashes without realizing one of the uses of backdashes was to bait out DPs and get them to whiff
Blazblue Entropy Effect is the best-selling Blazblue game of all time by a vast margin and currently has 1000 players despite being a dead singleplayer-only game with a sequel on the way
Why do people in Vanquisher with 5000 hours on their character join my low gold games in Park? You get as much interaction out of me as the training dummy. 30 other people in this lobby, why waste both of our time
>>565458962and like everything in strive, they'll change everything around the root issue, instead of just fixing the main issue. i'll gladly take more recovery on back dashes if it means more invincibility
>>565458818I believe it. I still think there's room for a little more curated "boss" battle type story stuff to supplement the mission mode for on-boarding though.
>>565458962No, the reason they had to change the DPs was to make it so you don't win a game from a single reversal, which is tied to the absurdly high damage the game has. This problem was exacerbated by two of the DP havers also having some of the highest damage in the game. When people complained about DPs, complaining about Ky's or Chipp's was far rarer, or at least that's how it felt to me.In the older games, you could get oki or a combo from a meterless DP without even using meter, but that was fine because the games had a lot of reversal-safe gapless oki and pressure and the damage was lower so even if they successfully DPd you, you weren't going to die from their next oki mix despite having full health before the DP.
>>565460979in older games, you just OS backdash against DPs on your safejumpno one blocked sin/jam's DP and was like "yes this is okay, because the damage is lower"you either said those characters are bullshit this game sucks, or you did the backdash OS
>>565461389I know the older games have a reputation as solitaire oki simulators, but not every character got a safejump oki from every starter.
OSes and fuzzies should not exist
>>565461993okay?then you just had to hard call out a DP with a backdash if you thought they were going to DPthat's just fighting games dude, sometimes you don't have good oki
Option Selects where you actually still commit something are fine. Only Option Selects where there is no reason not to do the Option Select are bad, they should either be removed or made automatic.
>>565462187>that's just fighting games dude, sometimes you don't have good okiI agree. For example, in some fighting games you don't get good oki after hitting a reversal because that would be too snowbally.
Sometimes I think fighting games are only fun when both players are kind of bad
injustice 3 bros we got leaked bros
>>565463335Fighting games are fun when both players are evenThe miniscule player numbers result in never getting an even match.
>>565466973this is correctpeople play fighting games to chase the dragon of those nail biter matches
>>565467245The most popular games in the world are games where you click the other guy and games where you mouse over the other guy and mash RQWEAnd yet, Divekick was a joke game that nobody played
So is the match simply just lost the moment Faust has a couple items active?
>w-w-well those are team games, *ignores the multitudes of battle royales at the top of the charts*>We need to compare them to popular 1v1 games!So... RTSesand literally nothing else. RTSes known for being massively complex and the origin of the term APM
>>565468269uhmm akhsually chess is very popular 1v1 game.
>>565468532ummmm actually thats not comparable because thats not a video game and ummmm actually magic the gathering and other card games are actually more comparable to fighting games than shooters and uummmm
Any youtuber talking about any multiplayer game "its a lot like chess actually"
>>565451554I think we should have universal jank guard cancels, like in Sailor Moon, and that's all that there should be.
ASW seems to be set on removing most character's access to 50/50s that only need meter to setup. Is the F-shiki's time limited now that a bunch of those characters have just moved to do [plus on block move] 9 66BRC [some falling jumping button] into a 50/50 of a low or instant overhead, both leading to a wallstick combo?
>>565462835>>565406053>>565338606welp I'm gonna cum now
>>565466973Strive is pretty good about this though with ranked, isn't it? Basically, the top 3 are fine, but everything below just sinks
>>565472125No
>>565472470>t. West coast
>>565470890Probably not, if anything I feel it's likelier that they give it to characters who currently can't do it or well, can't convert off it without dumping 50 more tension
You know people called Axl's grab becoming a low a nerf but I'm finding it way more obnoxious to deal with now
>>565477693Nobody called it a nerf tho? It's clearly a buff.
>>565476306east coast actually
>>565478085I saw a lot of Axl players screeching into the void when the patch notes first dropped. It was more of a scrub buster as a grab but feels way more oppressive as a low.
>>565414113 (Me)Can someone tell me where the gaps in Dizzy's pressure are?I've come to accept that on characters without long range or good neutral skips I'll have to hold at least one blockstring from this bitch but I have no clue when/how I'm supposed to take my turn back.I play on console so I can't just install the thing that lets you use DLC characters.
>>565479642everything she does is minus except for that necro fire fish
>>565479642c.S -> kara Fire dagger -> c.S is an infinite blockstring that she can loop for as long as she doesn't fuck up the kara. You have to FD and even then it will take several loops until she is far enough away to whiff the strike part of fire dagger at which point you can take your turn.
after the myriad buffs to her zoning and how they actually gave her pressure and oki with 2.0, I feel like Dizzy is actually good and debatably even almost fun now.
>>565482662>take away all of testamen't zoning and setplay>give it all to dizzysomething something lore
What if your UI skin only went over your own healthbar and the opponent's went over theirs and you both saw each others
This is what HC could have looked like instead of what we gotU rike?
>>565481235>c.S -> kara Fire dagger -> c.S is an infinite blockstringIs this somehow different than the one she used to have that you had to like crouch then standing punch specifically and then they nerfed it out anyway
>>565484939ummm that would be kinda... well uh... you know....
>>565485479I fucking hate Happy Chaos, his design, personality and dialogue are corny as fuck. The one we got is bad but the ones you posted are somehow even worse.
>>565486037I don't know what the cowboy hat one is doing in there I'm pretty sure there was no concept art of that
>friday night>not a single "lobby status" post
Now that the dust has settled I do not like Usagi and how much he dominates Jam's animations
>>565479786>>565481235No, yeah, I know how the fire arrow works I meant more like, strings that end in Michael's sword to push you back a million miles...Or, actually, I think I ONLY know how the fire arrow works, so any info abouy anything else is good.
>>565487460What made Oro work so well is that a turtle is essentially a rock when you're holding it, so he gets the "I can beat you with one hand while simultaneously being so delicate I can keep this animal safe" without it defining his entire character.The moment they made Usagi move around was when it stopped being Jam the kung fu lady and when it became The Jam And Usagi Show and she remains a one-note joke character, just with a different joke.Twitterfags pretend the panty shots were all anyone cared about on Jam, but compared to Usagi they were a very understated and minor running gag.
How do I stop losing the game instantly the moment I block any of Zato's halfscreen normals or fullscreen specials? He gets to run like 4 unreactable high-lows from any blocked hit, and even if you somehow manage to block him out, he gets to end his turn safely and then gets to stall and play gay rps with flight for two nanoseconds until Eddie comes back. Not to mention he gets a full corner to corner combo from any hit that ends with him gaining full Eddie gauge while still getting oki and getting to loop all of this again. Literally the only time I don't get eventually get hit when I block one of his moves is when I use YRC or burst.
>>565488543>How do I stop losing the game instantly the moment I blockIf you're blocking, you're losing
>>5654874605h is my favorite animation
>>565488606The difference is that when I block a fullscreen projectile from Ky, I'm not instantly put into the fucking blender.
>>565488706You're fighting bad Kys
>>565484939Are there in-game UI skins I don't know about or do you mean like... a mod that does that?If the latter, it sound like it could be cool, but it'd need both people to have it to really work.
>>565488980NTA but there are currently 3 you can choose: the current 2.0 version, the previous one, and a "Vintage" UI you apparently get as a Season 5 pass bonus.
>>565488543>Literally the only time I don't get eventually get hit when I block one of his moves is when I use YRC or burstSounds like you get it, though Deflect Shield is also an option. Aside from that you can try to either IB Zato so he's in throw range or FD him until he's forced to either press a riskier button or you can kill Eddie. The Zato mathcup for most characters is about just beating him in neutral before he can force you to block, his neutral isn't great and you can always kill Eddie if Zato tries to send him out without you being in blockstun or HKD.
>>565490073>his neutral isn't greatThe fuck? He has halfscreen normals, fullscreen specials that don't extend his hurtbox nor have significant recovery, has best jabs in the game now that everyone's a 5 framer and can play gay rps with his air stalls with the reward heavily weighed in his favor. Not to mention the "I am now fully invincible for several seconds" shit.>you can always kill Eddie if Zato tries to send him outEddie hitboxes mean that will almost always be a trade, which will in Zato's favor since he's fully able to act and gets Eddie back in a pictosecond anyway. So he runs up afterwards, does a few normals and gets to then cancel into Eddie specials because Eddie is already back. Not to mention the massive risk of getting hit by Eddie without killing him means you are getting wallbroken.
>hit 30% health>do the input for Dragon Install>Ky says the long, more intense "DORAGOOOOON INSTAAAAAAAAALL" instead of the short, muted versionKinoGuaranteed round win after that.
>>565491631>Guaranteed round winFor the opponent? Also DI should be available always. Sol's DI being health drain levels of aggressive was fair because of how buffed glue got. DI is barely a buff for Ky.
>>565491631kiske TRANCE
>Grand Finals is today>ded
>popular light novel illustrator got third at arcsys' HnK kusoneat
bridget pressure
sex with bridget!
>>565492086brother... you're living like 4 patches in the past...
>>565485479why can't he just have shoes
>>565497572Nobody cares about anything but SF6. They won. They provide what the people want. They are the fighting game. We are not.
>>565497693Wait fr? Who tf is KG?
>>565500505>They won>They are the fighting gameLMAO You're partially right though, people are eating this shit UP for some reason.
>>565500503He doesnt haveanything thats reallyimportant to himthats whyeverything is beautifulbadababaaaaaaaaaaaabadaba baaaaaaayaaaaaa
>>565485479i like blue melanin hc
How do I stop dropping the 2k/1k in jam combos. It doesn't even come out half the time.
>>565500503I deleted the image showing it off but it is genuine insanity just how much fucking better he looks as a design if you just give him some casual sneakershttps://gamebanana.com/mods/336083Their images don't do it justice because modders are all retarded but it looks so, SO much better.
>>565501017There will be nothing but SF6 after 2XKO and soon Tokon catastrophically flopping. They did win. They won decisively and soon utterly. Literally everyone else failed to deliver and compete.
>>565501648Good thing I don't like LARPing as an investor like so many people in this shithole and I can just play the games I like.
>>565491558His normals are very gimmicky, and tend to be both slow and high commital. It's a bit of a knowledge check but for most characters it shouldn't be too bad, and mid-long range ones in particular tend to shit on him easily (2 out of every 5 times a Zato cries, it's because of Ramlethal).>Eddie hitboxes mean that will almost always be a tradeIt's hard to say without knowing your character but if you're consistently trading with Eddie then you're probably not picking the right buttons to contest him. Your problem should really never be that you can't cleanly kill Eddie in netural....Well, with one notable exception, if he shoots frog at you when you're in the air you're actually kinda fucked, the leap is fast and the hitbox is big so unless you have a big disjointed button you can throw in the air you're almost certainly going to trade at best.
>>565497572I just play the game, I don't even realize when stuff is going on unless I happen to see someone talk about it...when's the GGST top 8? there's a schedule on the evo site but idk what timezone it's even on
>>565497572How long till top 8?
>>565497992I was wondering what the League Champions Korea had to do with this hoe...
>>565501801This post is extremely Nierphobic, please delete it
im starting to feel like Jam is more obnoxious than Elphelt.
>>565505248stay in your containment thread, tranny
>>565497572>>565503432Round 2 of pools hasn't even started, and doesn't start for another 3 hours. Top 8 doesn't start for another 9 hours.
>>565505742Oooh, thanks
Is our boy LK on winners side still
>>565505709Absolutely nott. Jammu hater
>>565506053Yes. https://www.start.gg/tournament/evo-japan-2026-presented-by-levtech/event/evo-japan-2026-guilty-gear-strive/brackets/2148378/3259880
>>565505248Isn't that Nierposter an actual, literal investor?IS that a LARP too?
>enter thread>ctrl+f lobby>no lobby>leave thread
>>565507728Make one yourself you goon
>Guard crush still eats inputs2.0 is still shite
>>565507092if youre not warren buffet youre a larpersimple as
You can't beat the market.
I genuinely don't like the anti anti air c.S changesIt should've just shaved the abusing niggers hitboxes off and not fucked the whole thing up for everyone (but Dizzy and Ky somehow)
>>565513290Yeah they are pretty frustrating. The thing that really irks me is that you can't catch fuzzy jumping as well anymore because of it. It makes strike throw a good deal weaker because of that alone on top of not being able to RC throw whiff. I like the change overall, or rather I like the intention of nerfing characters having Godlike C.S antiairs, but it just creates new problems. How typical of Strive
I genuinely don't like the AD delay changeIt should've just added delay to dash macro ADs and not consequently fucked the whole game up
What's the optimal midscreen cS CH combo for Anji, bros?
>>565507092The numbers are too small and consistent for me to think he's lying and not just reading his charts
I think we'll be fine guys
>>565518805>invincible>fucking dies???
>>565518805looks like a kino kusoge but I cannot imagine that going well with a super casual target audience
>We've got a newcomer!>It's a yellow wi-fifagNah c'mon
>>565518805The game has combo limiter right?
>>565519425It has several infinite prevention systems and free defensive tools but Conquest has some moves that are either burst safe or don't add to the combo meter at all, for some reason
>>565518805The FGC being desperate enough to pretend to take this game seriously is sad.
>>565519552Holy fucking shit lmao. You could say it's an "oversight".
>Neutral jump against someone on their wakeup>End up getting a crossup on my safejump that just flat-out whiffs because it's going the wrong way???????????????
>>565519739the main issue is that the game needed like another 6 months for polish but invincible was currently hot so they pushed it out.The DLC didnt even work day 1 they had to patch the ability for you to claim your Deluxe Edition stuff
>>565519739paid shilling or some sort of genuine sympathy for western FGs?
>>565520125Both, along with the abysmal state of current FGs
Actually, unironically, what the fuck is the real counterplay against Dizzy's ice spike?
>>565520584the counterplay to things in guilty gear is to already be in the perfect spot and already doing a punish before the move has even finished its animation
>>565520584draw alot of porn to make her super popular so more people will play her and cause more people to complain about her to then finally having Arc recognize her bullshit as well as flaws within system mechanics to then work on a balance patch in 5 years
>>565520584Just do this.
>>565520125Paid + People having shit taste and actually liking trash like Invincible and the Boys + the overly positive esports era of the FGC where you have to support everything and only say nice things.
>>565521459>overly positive ... era ... where you have to support everything and only say nice thingsThis has been the entire world since like 2015
>>565521723Eh it’s more of a post Covid “let people enjoy things” attitude. People were still calling things cringe in 2015
peni looking GAWDLIKE fr fr no cap but somehow there's no list of all her items yet. currently I think they've shown 6. gonna need them to go a little weird cause the most inventive item vikala has is just repackaged +r coin with star
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xq-kmPFpUHsGET IN HERE
>>565523189I don't think they'll get too inventive, get inventive and you get things like Mini-Faust that piss people off, or you get stuff like Xrd's black hole that pisses off the item user.
>>565523564>Strive semifinals>COTW Top 8>MBTL Top 8>At the same timeAAAAA MEGANE
>>565523564I was about to go to bed though've
>>565523597black hole is actually pretty good for faust more often than it's not. his amazing gatling tree means he can do stuff like 5p cs 5p cs loops to maintain pressure but it can put him in ugly scenarios. weight is the worst in xrd I would say and honestly the worst now in strive. donut and trumpet are both really good for faust now and along with snip being a way weaker win condition means guard crush from weight is less valuable. weight is now the thing that will most often end faust's item train win con. but obviously before trumpet used to be abysmal for him
>>565523687>he can't keep up with 3 streams at the same timeSkill issue
>>565523564Also on https://www.twitch.tv/evojapan03
that sin got fucking jewed by Nago's new move...
He didn't learn more on the matchup.
Poor, Honest Nago being cornered and bullied by the overpowered Kiske characters...
time for tatuma GOAT
what kinda characters are in this top 24?
>>565525464I don't know how we ever had people claiming Ky was boring or vanilla when the fag can FLY like that, and basically none of it was new stuff
>>565525709Strive Ky is unironically my favorite "default" character in any fighting game I've played in the last 10 years or so. And yes, the square sword IS cool
STEVEN, GOUBOU, Daru, LK, and Summit_Chipp in losers side so far
>>565526468Wait for real? Did I happen to not catch their matches or where they not on stream?Who knocked out Goubou and Daru?
A Japanese player using the name STEVEN to compete in fighting games is very quaint
>>565526635Not on stream.>Who knocked out:>GOUBOUtapohase>Daruあいん>>565526468I guess it's worth mentioning FAB is too.
LOBBY IS UPCODE: 868802ft3 winner stays NAE but all regions welcome
>>565527370868822*
>>565526639He's gonna get a weird anti woke follower base like Jonathan Tene did before he deliberately called them all retarded
>>565527370I am watching EVOJ and on an after hours work call but I will join and press buttons until someone less distracted joins.
With these events I honestly can't tell who's good or not, because you'll see the stupidest decisions known to man from people on winners semis and it's like... do they know things I don't or are they actually just mid?Like it'd be one thing if this Ky was just getting rolled, but he's getting rolled doing shit like charged stun edge, with his back against the corner, against Ram.
>>565527694Youre more likely to misinput after a long tournament run in an entirely different country
>>565527694Tournament nerves are a very real thing and affect everyone differently.
This game will unite the anime fgc it will bring us all together.jpg part 2.
Anyone on stream dping the HC infinite yet? Jack jacking on people yet or nah
LK lost the tournament yet?
>>565528501Kamone sucking Nasu's dick.
>>565528501because its an actual anime game and has real air movement people will hate it just like they did the last one.
>>565528501I understood the reference
what does "failed to upload player data" mean?
Man, I was really rooting for the Sin player... It's not a sentiment I feel often, but when he's against Asuka, the patch's less-talked about bugged character...
OH SHIT ABBYSAIRAF?That nigga is always tormenting the SA servers and tournaments, had no idea he was gonna ve in EVO.
these CMs are fucking terrible
>>565527370Damn... I got DC'd and can't join again. Was fun game tho. Slayer is so stupid. Such an unethical characterHe is perfect for me when I don't care to play smart tho
>>565527370>>565527548ROOM IS BACK UP!!
>>565528501If they make the right systems changes it could32% chance
>>565528501Return to Melty Blood form
>>565530772>>565530883
>>565531182The guy playing on keyboard is a real nigga.
>>565531251I saw, but now I gotta play some Blue Archive. Apologies
so how long until Strive is on the tely again?
>>565531342Coward.
all the ABA discourse falls apart when you actually play an ABA and it's basically the same shit it ever was, except if MAYBE perhaps you manage to win the 10/90 "RPS" against Jealous mode ABA, AND she doesn't have burst, you can put her in a checkmate scenario.
>>565531805But all the doomers said
>>565531341not the guy on the fucking gamecube controller?
TY-sama...
>>565531440It's on now
>>565518805>roundstart todyep, that's tagslop alright
Tap dust is truly unbeatable
>>565527370>>565527548Lobby will close in 10 minutes if no one else joins
Reo はね vely vely weaku...
Color 4 Ram is so fucking hot...
>only good LATAM player sent to the shadow realm in quartersoof, that's rough, idk why he switched to Sin but it was over the moment Doram switched to Unika, there is literally not a single even half-decent Unika in this entire godforsaken region
>Loses once as Sin>Swaps to KyIs this the meta as Sin? To play wild and try to rob a game and then swap to a good character after you lose?
>>565534797Ungaka has no counterplay anyway
You people told me Sol was trash now...
wheres the Strive pools been streaming?
i feel bad that i have more fun in strive than sf6
>>565536065...literally why would that make you, or anyone, feel bad?
>>565536215strive is an inferior product, technically speaking
>>565536271In what fucking way? The visuals and the music are both infinitely better, character variety and identity are also miles and miles stronger in Strive.
>>565535593the counterplay is not suckingthe counterplay to that counterplay thoughever is to be the best player in Korea
>>565536271
>>565536405>>565536759>worse netcode>worst matchmaking and ranked mode>no quick practice mode>can't saved practice settings into multiple slots>no built in frame data meter>can't queue while doing other stuff seamlessly>can't pause matchmaking without quitting>no replay takeover>character select doesn't remember your selected character and OST and stage if you restart the game>slow loading times compared to the big 2>no recommended punishment in replay for noobs>rematching still makes you go through an animation
Really clutch Millia set. I fucking hate this bitch, but against Leo I can't help but root for her
watching Nagos this tournament has actually been infuriating. no idea how that new move is allowed to exist, meanwhile they took a shotgun to a character like ABA's kneecaps because they wanted her to have to have to manage her resource.
>Clueless Momiji TouristLuhmeow
>>565537224I like Momiji
>>565537008Not only are some of those wrong, but you didn't mention the most important aspect: gameplay.Strive 2.0's fun, SF6 isn't. Simple as. SF6's greatest "quality" is that it's popular.
where is strive get this isekai game off my screen bruhhh
>>565537153you can also delete Millia pretty quickly if you catch hermost of the match was just working around Leo's bullshit armor move
>>565537342Sexo eyes
>>565537008OK I see what you mean now, and you did say TECHNICALLY it's a better product so yeah, I can see how.Makes me wish I found the gameplay appealing but I don't. I would be able to tolerate the ugliness if at least the gameplay was closer to what I like about Street Fighter.
Lobby is closing in 10 if no one else joins
>>565537153That was very exciting to watch, holy shit.The people who once told me Strive was just "anime Street fighter now" can go eat a dick; I know it IS slower than 2D Guilty Gear and I know Millia is not the norm but that was fun, watching her zoom around, bait Leo and ultimately beating him.
Pot is still so ignorant. I can imagine how tough this shit is for Ky since he has to make his offense work several times to whittle down Pot's health. Seems like Ain is flatout struggling against the wall that is Potemkin
>>565537008you forgot: "gameplay isn't built around accommodating dash macro ever since the first beta"
nvmi found teh stream
>>565537429i even said i have more fun in strive, how insecure do you have to be>>565537624sf6's gameplay makes the FOMO hits hard because i genuinely cannot play it without getting mad and/or exhausted>>565537909i avoided mentioning anything gameplay related, in case it went over your head
>>565537597She is very sexo
>>565535597Unironically bottom 5 the upper limit would be more like the lower side of mid tier but he's too difficult to consistently be played at that level; this may sound like a joke/cope but there's literally only one pilot that makes top 8 / top 24 at super majors, and they're a long time character specialist as well
>>565537008>no replay takeoverThis makes me mad the most. Strive is just filled with gimmick pressure you have no idea how to counter and you can't even go to replay and try different stuff to see what works the best in that situation. Like how can you not add such essential feature to a fighting game? Even more stupid how a literal nobody tranny made a replay takeover mod all by himself but fucking devs can't do it. Too bad that mod is glitchy and very clunky to use.
>>565538161I swear they announced they were gonna do it. It's weird that a feature pioneered or at least popularized by GG is in other current fighting games but not GGST
>>565538161>>565538329I'd imagine rewinding sprites is way fucking easier than elaborate 3D models with complex shaders
>>565537951You mentioned all that shit but left of sf6 not showing actual ping numbers before a match and having the worst jukebox implementation in a fighting game ever.
how far away are we from top 8? deciding if i got to bed and watch in the morning or not
>>565537008the post that exposed an entire general
>>565538329they promised independent character lighting too, to differentiate from the darker part of stageswhere the fuck is that>>565538415but Kekken did itisn't that UE4/5 too?
>>565538415Tekken 8 did lmao
>>565538465no mainstream fighter shows precise ping and strive could barely be called having a jukebox>>565538543>>565538602Tekken doesn't use rendering tricks because it doesn't try to emulate 2D animations, Strive has way more stuff going on to keep that illusion
>>565538415>I'd imagine rewinding sprites is way fucking easier than elaborate 3D models with complex shadersThis makes no sense; that's not how that works. >>565538471Like an hour and a half.
wtf someone actually plays Bedman?
>>565538683..... Retard Tekken 8 shows ping. So does Strive and every other fighting game at Evo.
That Bedman actually made Ram look like she was the worse character. That's really impressive. I suppose it is tough to play into Bedman when you play a character that lets you get away with not developing good defensive habits
>>565538828not before a match my dude, do you even follow your own arguments?
>>565538683Is Tekken 8 over?Were there any Ninas?
>>565538828>>565539086proof btw, in case you want to argue even more
>>565539124>Is Tekken 8 over?Semis in 2h, finals tomorrow
>>565539271Cool, thanks m8
>>565538161I suspect their laziness in fully understanding and implementing their own rollback is the cause of many of their development troublesthey probably have to wheel in some shabbos gaijin for literally everything now
>>565488543
Strive Top 8 in 24 minutes.
>>565539930Isn't it in 1h 20m?
>>565539815Eddie clapping animation always makes me kek
>>565540123Oh yeah pre show.
Who will come out on top!
>pre show non existentWtf
>>565540648>all japs (and an honorary one)>one hue>no muttsIs this because no americans went to Japan this year or is it another win for Evo Japan for delivering mostly decent top 8s?
>>565540648>>565543747>No HCMoralfags.
>>565543850To be fair, only Jack could ever pull the infinite in a real match, and even he fumbles it.
>>565540648Our lord and savior TY.
>no leo>no nago>no hclmaoone more year of kuso balance incoming
>>565543747>Is this because no americans went to Japan this year or is it another win for Evo Japan for delivering mostly decent top 8s?Tempest was forced to retire so he can't sweep them again, Jack didn't get some invitation thing he was supposed to or something from ASW for winning AWT, Nitro / LK were knocked out, and other competitive NA players didn't attend because they either don't care about Strive enough anymore (2XKO career copeium), don't have sponsors willing to foot the bill, or didn't want to bother when they have other events going on more locally soon (tournaments or content).
GUILTY GEAR STRIVE TOP 8 IS LIVEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9sCA9gvcJkghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GvR4N0sjQRQ
>>565545585You lie to me. It's still sleep fighter
>>565545682The jap one goes first but they're doing accessory showcase lol.
>May 14th for the next minor patch (2.01) and Blazing Pass launch>some known balance changes (existing notes) and other targeted tuning>bug fixes
>Lucy can kara cancel monowire feint into superneat
I thought Asuka was gutted. That was quite a stomp. TY just flatout did not get to play that whole set except for the one game he won
>>565547836Kouhide said Asuka was Gio's worst match-up pre-patch, and it doesn't seem any better now; I'm surprised he didn't try Chipp.
Does Churara just play Sin to lose? I never see him actually win a set with him. He wins at most one and then loses and then swaps
>>565548270He's learning on the jobIn EXTREMELY high stress scenariosBest way to learn something desu
Churara is so nuts. How tf is he managing to make the right play so consistently?
holy fuckin shit churara
Lighting strike KO was pretty hype
daru-sama... onegai..
BUFF WEAPONS FREE
>>565546496>Advertising "bug fixes" as contentHoly shit fighting games are so pathetic.
>>565549914It's not a normal thing?
>>565549914KOFXV literally just advertised balance patch only it's nothing new.
>>565550092Fixing bugs is normal yes, but advertising it "Hey we are fixing bugs with this next patch! Get hype guys!" is not. It's what is expected. It's like having "supports controllers!" or "has sound!" in bullet points of advertising material.>>565550239Advertising balance patchs is dumb too, but it's at least somewhat understandable, especially if the game hasn't received them in a while. It's a difference between: "hey we are continuing to polish this game" and "hey we are going to mix our fuck-ups and not leave the game in a broken state, aren't you grateful?".
Bedman?
That was a stomp and a half. It really felt like the Millia just did not know how to play into Bedman. Maybe Bedman is looking to be pretty good this version. He's tricky and has solid frame data and scary traps. His air movement seemingly is string enough to even outbox Millia
>>565550581I can't tell if this is cynical shit disturbing or retardation.
>0 Nagos in top 8>0 Leos in top 8>0 HCs in top 8>8 unique charactersSo is 2.0 actually quite well-balanced, or is the game just not that competitive in Japan anymore?
>>565550748Well in the East, there is a tremendous value on character loyalty, so you won't find too many playing whatever character is top tier of the patch. Westerners were quite few in this bracket so there was very little of the typical tierwhores you would find in the West. Also, it's still relatively early in the new version. Some characters are still finding out their matchups and their truly scary tech. Let's just appreciate it as it is where there is both character variety and true character loyalists in this top 8
Need a flexstrike to up my game to the next level.
>>565550894>Well in the East, there is a tremendous value on character loyalty, so you won't find too many playing whatever character is top tier of the patchDon't all the nips play top tiers in SF6 and shift into a new top tier after their yearly balance patch?
>>565551875Street Fighter drains the soul out of the people who play it so they all just become tierwhores since there's no reason to play that game other than to win
I SEE THE CIRCLE
I strivers seriously getting hype for bug fixes? LMAO
sin is so cool
how is Sin not Unika, but it costs stamina to do his shit?i don't get it
>>565553234Considering it's a fix to their worst creation that's been plaguing the game for nearly five years, yeah. Not sure what more you expect with 2.0 just releasing.Could be worse. Could be Capcom, and get absolutely nothing.
>>565520584fullscreen projectile after blocking it
>>565550581>Hey we are fixing bugs with this next patch! Get hype guys!I'm sorry your reading comprehension interpreted that way, autist-chan.
How come western strive players look like freaks that escaped from the zoo while japs look like very normal salarymen?
>>565554602>How come american strive players look like freaksftfy
>>565554602Because different countries have different cultures.
>>565550748SF dominated pretty hardI remember the "takeover" like 3-4 years ago when their horror engine bux bought off soulless vtubers and it exploded
>>565554749What's North America's culture?
Am I going crazy or is the gameplay footage on the evo stream oversaturated as fuck?
>>565555458Black people.
Daru's got backthrown like 6 times
>>565555484somebody forgot to set the console to full rgb
>>565555458Can you just say whatever you want to say instead of being a coy little faggot?
It's so funny how some characters can look like unfair broken cancer in some matchups, and then look like unplayable garbage in another. It's funny like that
daru vs tyurara grand finals feels right, they're the two most consistently good players through the history of this game
Asukabros...
Tyurara is going to choke. I can feel it.
>>565545302Pros still care about Twixo? Seems like the next professional bait fightan gaem is Tokon
>>565550748Strive doesn't exist outside of NA and at smaller scale SA nowadays
>>565554602>americanThere's your answer
>>565556107How come none of the NA players that went to this tournament made top 8 then?
>>565555484Something is very fucky with color saturation
GUILTY GEAR STRIVE GRAND FINAL IS LIVEEEEEEEEEESIN VS INOTYURARA VS DARU I-NO
Wait you can burst counter blitz? What's the point of it then?
>>565556325You can Burst before it's actually started hitting.
>>565556325Daru bursted before the CB
Daru is not looking to block anything. In respect it
>>565548270He's trying to spite you specifically right now.
I want Daru to lose because he took out all the players playing cool characters.
Lmao does Sin really only have one voiceline on beak driver?
doraivahhhhhhh
we finally did it churaringtons
>>565556570Beast mode. But let's be real here. He outplayed Daru completely there. Asuka was a bit of a MU thing tho
sin is getting nerfed again
>>565548270what now nigga
Well deserved. It's been years.
>>565556894Ky is spared.
Has Tyurara not won a major before? There's no way, right? He's always been such a solid player
>>565556996I feel like he always chokes.
>>565556996He's JP LK. Glad he finally won something, so I guess he's not JP LK now
Did Churara play Sin the whole time? I only watched the finals so I dunno if it's fair game to call Sin carried
>>565557143He played Ky then Sin depending on the matchup
>>565557143He's losing with Sin before top 6 and switches to Ky instead.
>>565557240Father/Son duo main is kino. I guess they cover each other's bad matchups
Sin is just easy mode braindead gorilla with autopilot pressure and great matchup against I-No too.
>>565557258He's been doing that since Sin was released
>>565556740to be fair, it's a really good voiceline
So? Hows the top 8?
>>565557363Tbh it's just not fair to said that he's Sin carried while Sin is actually his main since Xrd. He's playing Ky with Sin-esque way anyway.
Churara actually played so incredibly well. I wanna call him carried, but he made pretty much every right call when it mattered that I can hardly believe that he's just guessing
https://x.com/i/status/2050499593490853944
>>565557835I'm still annoyed they consider Asuka's infinite mana a bug.
>>565557835bug fixes? LET'S FUCKIN GOOOOOO
>>565556996has daru won anything big in strive?
>>565558485He definitely won a major before. I forget which one tho
>>565558485He won last EVO Japan, but they also fucked up the set-up of the stage so it kind of feel like he only won on a technicality.
>>565558485>>565558558He was the Evo Japan winner last year.
sin can be all 8 chars in a top 8 and you'd still have the local pedo in here say how he isn't top tier
>Have a horror fighter IP>Make all your games in a horror engine>Don't make a new horror fighterIs Capcom retarded?
is may good in the current meta?
>>565559450darkstalkers is overtly cartoony with a dash of anime, you know, things that the hyper realistic RE engine sucks at
New Darkstalkers with arcsys graphics would be much better.
>>565559551>overtly cartoony with a dash of animeYeah, so was SF. But unlike SF, most Darkstalker characters aren't human so they wouldn't fall into the uncanny valley unlike the abominations in 6.
>>565559737Unfortunately, ArcSys is literally the only company capable making ArcSys graphics, we've seen what happens when others try (Nen Impact, Daima Goku).
>>565559757>so was SFonly really true with alpha sub-series and 3rd strike, with 5 you could tell they were aiming for a more grounded take which resulted in abominations like abigail and alex
>>565559875wasnt dnf duel almost entirely in house?
>>565559875uhhhhhhh riot and 2xko?????
>>565559948DNF Duel: 8ing with ArcSys supervising the visuals.Nen Impact: 8ing without any ArcSys involvement.Make your own conclusions.
>>565559948I believe Arc did the models and animation. I guess the arcane tech of doing the arcsys style is something only their in-house team can do.
>>565560324arcsys just employees really talented artists. there's no arcane tech.
they should remove ferry from the game and give vikala her divekick
WHAT
>>565560918i saw that, ratpedo.
>>565560918wrong thread
>>565560918they could give her that and a meterless dp and you would still be shit at the game
>>565560918"Nice" top 8.
>>565560918Granblue Fantasy Versus: Rising??
>>565557835>2 fucking weeks for bugfixes
>Blazing passmore like bullshit pass
>>565557835Two weeks to fix the blockstring lmao.
Would Kum or zappa comeback after robo ky?
>>565569609It'll be Zappa or Raven, it won't be Kum.
>miken made it 4th placebedbros we take those
no broken infinite hc in top 8?erm, well you see, the japanese are honorable bushido warriors.
>>565570048Shes fun :(
