Villainess Edition>Latest patch:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/04-10-2026-update.125825/>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki/>Collection of useful character buildshttps://deadlockmeta.com/>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/>Unofficial Competitive Newshttps://edl.gg/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>565283408
dead flopping trannycock game
>>565346534Let's see what this ___k can do!
if you are tired from losing just queue infernus and dynamo with someone else guaranteed to win most games
Buff Silver.
>>565347084Siri, buff Celeste and Viscous too, even if it scares the hoes.
I started playing the game with new gods old bloods, when do I stop being a newfag?
who does he main?
>>565347292Learn who Slork and Wrecker is and you've passed the rite of passage and are a true Deadlocker.
>>565347605>bald manlet
How is dynamo not the most OP character in the game?>Super impactful >No skill required>Don't even need farm to be usefulJust press 4 and win
>>565347292If you didn't play the game before the NDA was lifted you'll always be a newfag.
>>565347782Because infernus and kelvin exist
>>565347782Sinclair is the most busted character in the game because he can steal dynamo ult with a lower cooldown.
>>565348294I had a Dynamo rage at me in all chat when I constantly kept stealing his ult, "Sinclair is a bullshit character" he cried
>>565348294he's one of those heroes you can't truly balance for all levels, SSinclair yoinks everyone's ult at max level with a swift fart of a cooldown and sends everyone to Auschwitz, and also occassionaly nukes you with a double Goebbels Blast.Or he's a retard that either feeds or has zero impact all game.
i love victor
permapicking Seven from now on and if we lose its my teams fault
>>565348918Me too.
>>565350331>Everyone is so mean 2 me </3
>>565350331i had that mod installed but the ass was clipping in weird angles and the leg textures were flat, very disappointing
pretty funny build, anyone hit by a trap other than shiv was immediately half health
>>565347605he was watching wraith in the podcast
>>565350331All of the nude mods look terrible in this game
Flopping tranny deadcock.
>>565347782Subhumans who play Dynamo build for stomp and they saturate the statistics.
>>565350978replace arcane surge or ballistic with cultist sacrifice (monster rounds 1st item), consider knockdown and vortex web as optional items for manipulating enemies into traps, also consider veilwalker/shadow weave for surprise gutshot+trap buttsecks. you can also stack traps next to/on top of each other and the enemy will get hit by all of them (echo shard and vortex web for this). reverb would be fun but probably too expensive, maybe as last item in 50min game. i'm also only fond of superior duration there because it buffs grenades too. the traps already have ridiculously long duration by default
>>565348165Kelvin doesn't have nearly as much impact as Dynamo
>>565352513hmmm, nyo
>>565347782I played a 65 minute game and my dynamo still didnt have unstoppable. That's why
>>565352953concession accepted
>>565352070>nudity>good
>>565352070Lash has the only good one though.
thoughts?
>>565352070genuinely why would you want to see flopping tranny deadcocks while playing the game. people who get nude mods are way too porn addicted>>565352358my thoughts exactly buddy
>>565353323replybait/10
I'm oscillating between Ascendant 1-3 now.Can I consider myself a strong player? Should I try smurfing to see now it feels bashing on Arcanists?
>>565352070this lol, Paige is already super cute in her gingham dress, nudity would be a downgrade
>>565353017Why would he get unstoppable, his ult comes out like frame 1
March update irreparably fucked the game and it should be rolled back.
>>565354258Also don't like that they're naked in the public lobby with other people around. I don't see the appeal of female nudity if it doesn't exist for me personally
decay is a rly bad lane item for shiv. in the 32s between casts you can mystic shot someone 4 times for half the price + gun investment to shove the wave. with 4.8k spirit investment a single mystic shot is about 40% of a decay on a lane level abrams because of how the scaling works now so you don't even need to land all the shots to "break even" with mystic helping you take camps on top of just being a rage building statstickit can be really nice in the mid to late game where suddenly it builds you 80% rage by itself but in the mid/late game and to help bait remover before going all in with knives, but this trend of buy egg to rush it I see is a bad idea imho
https://vocaroo.com/12dLbQRAGVvj
>>565354258Anatomy wise they're not good but the idea of Paige trying to cover her chubby naked body with her books is hot
>>565355760yes it's retarded, why would you not just rush rapid recharge instead if you want DOT
fight for urn??? i sleepliterally 0 (zero) no (nil) objectives on the map and fighting now would literally mean fighting for nothing??? YABBA DABBA DOOOOOOOO LET'S BROOL
>>565355965i dont like urn feels like you either have to spend all resources to secure it and still risk losing another obj thats never worth it
>>565355760>in the 32s between casts you can mystic shot someone 4 times for half the price + gun investment to shove the wave.Counterpoint: all mental rescources used for aiming of exhausted on the knives.
WHERES THE PATCH YOU FUCKING DIRTY SANDNIGGER YOSHI/ICEFROG
thoughts on playing a support character but only supporting that one guy on your team who knows how to play the game?
>>565356875that's the correct way of doing it, if you can't win the game for me I'm not wasting time on saving/helping you, you're a little cockroach meant to be ignored
>>565356875That's just playing support though, you identify your carry and support them.
>>565356229>losing another objthe only other obj to lose is walker. and getting a walker only benefits one guy in your team, the pos1, since he has all the money.
>>565355760Yeah I agree it's stupid>Just gimp yourself in lane so you can rush a 3200 item that's not even that good
patch might be today, its thursday and tons of devs online
the greatest lie in video game history
>>565358009They're working on the anti-pedo patch as we speak
Is urn a good objective? Should it be changed to something else?
>>565358232in my experience this just puts the banned hero as your enemy laner
enemy team always gets the dashnigger and the dynamo but i get the fucking gun rem and holliday on my team
>win ONE single game>next game is a russian drifter that gets killed once goes "gg" and then throws while the match goes on for another 20 minutescan they at least make this even a little bit fucking subtle?
>>565358381urn is fucking terrible>its supposed to be a comeback mechanic >it only rewards the team thats more ahead
>>565358381>Is it effect at what it does Yes>Is it an enjoyable mechanicNoIt should be retooled into something that the losing team actually has a chance to complete instead of something the winning team uses to pressure the map on two sides.
>channeling the dead!>graves has no channeling skill
>>565358256Not sure how I feel about those names. They're clearly just there for shock value, maybe just report them on steam
>>565358795careful, the streamers seethed when graves was an actual summoner for like a week instead of being a shitty m1gger
UPDATE SOON FELLOW STALKER
>"x the Doorman">"welcome to the baroness" on all when the match startszzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
https://x.com/Sad_sayonara/status/2048144466997817347it's up
>>565360313>Paige laning with Infernus
>>565360016what does this mean
>>565360313It's funny how people who do this shit are more racist than me
Your lane partner at 5 minutes enjoy :)
>>565360582for real though why is this the seven on my team but the enemy seven is actually a smurf
>>565360313
>>565360582Don't worry he's going to farm up and carry usOh wait he's actually a retarded brooltard that will just keep running down mid, and do some stupid shit like an ult build?
>you can counterspell lash ult>but not doorman ultnice game icefraud
>>565361950you can counterspell the damage/stun at the end
>>565360313should be KNOTTED instead
>>565361950i mean you can you just need godlike reflexes
im tired, boss
>>565362538Careful! Anon has a prolapsed asshole!
hmm.. locket looks suspicously like an item in dota... hmm... noticing...
>>565362538It's like complaining everyone in Dota has magic wand.
>>565363067I don't care about Dota
>>565360559Well, yes. The entire fetish is rooted in racism.
Thoughts on my Drifter build? Been spamming in these last few days
>>565363409the first guy in the history of deadlock to buy shadow weave...
Remy's a great name!
>>565364168IT'S RA'AM
is there anyone that actually likes laning in this piece of shit game?
>>565364224Okay, okay, RA'AM it is.
>>565364341No. Laning phase feels fucking pointless
>>565358232I imagine this just looks for a game without a certain hero but gives up because the characters you want to ban have a 70% pickrate. Avoid hero only works on shit picks no one is playing in the first place. In other words the system does nothing.
>>565363917it's actually kinda good once your build is going. Puts all your damge on steroids and lets you jump flank and squishies or anyone really. Pairs well with duration extender too
>>565364341the further I climb the more it becomes a game of box hunt with everyone disappearing to go slap boxes. I don't mind it but that's not laning. and sometimes you get the lane partner who never boxes and goes 'wuh-buh-huh? how do they have so many souls?' and it's ascendant and come on dude how do you not know about the boxes?
>>565364341I swear most of the time I do so little damage I'm wasting my time shooting the enemy laners rather than just playing a game of orb clicking.
>>565362538>don't buy item that's good, requires apm, and works in multiple situations>buy generic damage up stick instead
crushing fists max stacks increased to 10, and now instantly kills your target if they reach 10 stacks but no longer works off of abilitiesI just fixed melee
Crushing fists deal double damage to parries and stuns.
If you whiff a parry you should be prohibited from using stamina for 1 second and also take 25% increased melee damage.Compared to being parried this is extremely lenient.
whiffing a parry should destroy your own walker with the lowest current hp
parry should cost 2 stamina
We need a new patch this general is dreadfully stale
the upgrade to rebuttal should be a tier 4 item that lets you counterparry
>lemme hold still for 2 seconds use slowing hex and my skill I took 15 minutes farming to be worth anything just so you can dispel it and use metal skin because my team is 5 carries pleaseI'd rather chew glass than play warden in mm ever again
>gun rem>sinclair using ults better than your own teammates>lane rapist buying egg>m1gger/carry but cant catch a wave >lingering around mid with no objectives to instigate a team fight over 0 objectives while down soulsare there any greater indicators than these that you are going to 100% lose
>>565368278>doorman's first items are vortex web and cheat death
>>565363067You dont care cause you are poor fag tranny haahahahaha
>>565368278Dynamo, Infernus, Lash on the enemy team. Really any case where the enemy team has ridiculous AoE and crowd control teamfighting ability while your team is 1v1 shit and support
>>565363409>resto
>>565301980> Okay I have ult, I'm going to go in!> Jump into the team fight, ult, catch 4 opponents> Start getting my absolute ass beaten by the entire team> Look at minimap> Entire team backed off during my ult and is heading back to base. This character will result in me popping a blood vessel. Holy shit this is annoying.
>>565370506With rejuv too
pls respond bros I need build advice >>565363409
>>565368818
>>565370506>>565370948You need to signal your team and spam "Going in!" voice line multiple times.I bet you just jumped in without anyone from your team expecting it.>fucking billy feeding again, even with rejuv, fucking braindead goat
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>>565371545I always tell my team when I'm backing off or going in
>>565371716>Last seen> 4 minutes ago · Viewing threadthis one?
>>565371545I usually voicecom that I'm going to go in. Maybe a combination of ping spam and mic spam will work.
>play silver >don't to horribly>win>get mvp every timeThis is proof that the hero is underpowered, the mvp algorithm knows that performing at 80% of another hero on Silver means you're doing insanely well on the hero.
>>565371949and I never start the fights on my own either. I only attack once my team mates have gone in.
>>565371949Good for you, but for some reason a lot of other players are convinced their teammates can read their minds.>>565372167>and I never start the fights on my own either.Pussy.
>>565372276Now you're just being a self contradicting faggot on purpose
>>565372531>self contradicting faggot on purpose
Sex with Billy
counterspell should be 800 gold
>>565373384So should metal skin, and they should stun people if they block a spell/bullet
>>565373384>>565373487>apply apollo parry logic to metal skinenvision the seethe
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/possible-low-priority-system-bug-endless-lp-queue-cycle.129939/#post-245610Who was in the wrong here
yoshi online
>Sinclair gets very good enemy ults>melee build
>>565373632Griefing trash get what they deserve.
>>56537137490% of players just pick a top build and go left to right
>>565373701>lady geistlich
>>565373701Geist would actually say this
>Enter vicinity where a kill happened>Get an assistI didn't even see the person that died, much less damaged them, is this a bug or feelgood mechanic?
>>565373884what's the problem here? he has sup duration, a large amount of spirit investment, and TCD, the three things he needs to take advantage of any of those ults
>>565375956>bring enemy down to 10% hp>die>ally cleans them up 5 seconds later>no assistAssists are retarded
>>565375956it's partially a feel good mechanic and partially an attempt to prevent deathballing, you standing in the nearby alley just to really ensure that guy dies split the money an extra way - even if that's not why you happened to be there - which means your team made less money off that kill then if you were in another lanethis is why you should never take anyone seriously when they cope by saying "yeah but look at how many assists I have". it literally means nothing besides "i'm there when fighting happens"
>>565376186If anything that makes it worse if someone's 2-13-1
>bloated hp that turns the entire game in a big stat check>some characters are outright uninteractive or disfunctional unless you play them a specific way>soloq is a miserable experience cause you're either getting decent teammates or glue eaters playing the game like street brawl and throwing your 40 minutes game in a single retarded call, it doesn't matter though cause the game is in beta or something>the game should encourage more ganks, lanes are predetermined to lose depending on some pairings>parry is too retarded, increase its cooldown and heavily decrease the parry window, 2 players being stunned in a single parry is retarded too>there's barely any competitive integrity in low ranks since even with ranks, all matches are pretty much a coinflipnice game otherwise, looking forward to the release version
>>565376292but it's not much worse then being 0-13-12
>>565373215True!https://files.catbox.moe/rp0ral.png
>>565376478I agree with all of this, but I'm PRAYING they don't introduce roles. Defined roles are the slow creeping death of this genre
FINALLYI AM NO LONGER AN INITIATE
>>565376804why do you think so?
>>565376793>goat>horse cock
>>565376804There is a soft role system in ranked where carries are on the sidelanes and supports/roamers bounce around the midlane but that's as solid as it gets that's sufficient to me.Dota appealed to me because the roles seemed less strict than league where playstyles felt extremely constrained.
>>565377017Way to go!
>>565377039Because everyone is comfortable and used to picking whatever they want now>Can we get a [name]Is an unhealthy blindside that goes against what the game already established. Imo games have to either start with defined roles or never add themLike yeah there's some soft roles, like haze and seven are carries, no one would expect that from Ivy or Dynamo, but you add roles, and the nasally "commander" nerds are going to start telling you what you can't play and what you should>>565377159Exactly
>>565377017How do people even get this rank?Have you ever played shooters or mobas before?Also I calibrated to Oracle 5.
>>565377390But you queue up with your characters before meeting said nasally commanders.
>>565377505Fair, but somethin in me says that system's gonna change, being able to pick after would also stop PauseLock
>>565377415Played a lot of shooters, but never played a moba beforeyou def cannot play Deadlock like other hero shooters, so I had to adapt until I was able to learn the moba side of it a lot more. I honestly prefer the moba gamemode compared to brawl, even though brawl is shorter. I love the moba mechanics a lot more than I thought I would.
>>565377415I have had completely new players in oracle that get shitstomped, this ranking system is retarded.
>>565360559more misogynist too
>put dynamo on ban>ones on my team>shits the bed gets no good ults>dynamo on the enemy team shits the bed but gets amazing ults constantlyWHYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY is there a fucking premium matchmaker???
Love Silver
>>565377776I have 4000 hours in Dota 2, so I'm not exactly new to be honest.
>>565378102this
>>565377064What about it
>dynamo and I get a clutch early kill and start winning lane>he doesnt buy any items except extra regen>buys trophy collector second item>lose lane>no longer can snowball as drifter>go afk
Okay, Doorman sucks. Bells suck, kidnapping sucks, his ult sucks.
>>565378721love horse cocks but it should be a goat cock instead
>>565363409I only like shadow weave when I'm ahead and can get it in the midgame. it's great for prowling the map and hunting people farming but is otherwise a low cost effect itemlooks like fairly standard drifter stuff otherwise. I don't like silencer. it's more of a man fight item than a CC or assassin burst item
>>565379781probably
>>565379357>blaming teammates for everythingkekw
>>565378249Yeah but I am just saying, placements are stupid.
>>565379897Last game I had 124 stacks, I just dont give a fuck if you intentionally throw the lane I am not playing. They had a 50k lead at 15 mins anyway and nobody helped me with comeback urn at that point I should let it end faster than drag it out
is bebop a troll pick if you aren't building gun?
>>565380531No, spirit bomb build is good too.
>nigger teammate gets in the last word>if I add them to complain about it they winwhen are they going to add post game chat so we can rage at our team for 20 minutes after a dogshit game like in dota?
They need to add a thing in matchmaking that forcibly avoids having up to 2 characters on your team. I'd pick Rem and Pocket every single time.
>>565379845>I don't like silencerI freaking LOVE silencer on Drifter. Especially after you max rend. If you have duration you basically have 2 giga long silences. Even if they have dispel they probably wasted it on your mark or the first silencesBut what makes it truly great is that unlike stuff like wave, lens, or curse it basically has no real cool down so you can silence so many people during fightsSilences someone really lets you lay into them until their dead. Also gives you much needed spirit res.
>>565352358FLIP FLOPPIN' TRANNY DEADCOCK
DANGLIN DEADCOCK
>>565360313I'm relapsing.
What did the nightshitters do now, why am I being flamed every match for playing the OP broken SS+++ Hitler's strongest warrior hero Venator?
>>565379781Nevermind, teammates suck. These matches have been TERRIBLE the past 3 days
>teammate feeds our lane>fortunately realizes that dying a fourth time in a row would be a bad idea>unfortunately starts int'ing the creeps instead>kills them>doesn't confirm the orbs>doesn't pick up the orbs on the floor either>enemies Denying uncontested>have to stand behind cover and watch our entire net worth disappear again and again while we get harassed from bridge>lose lane in record time>i'm thousands of souls behind despite sneaking camps and crates>teammate has less value than the guardian they just took>cue the next 10 minutes of our mid laner bitching because some fed as fuck carry is now piledriving his ass old-styleyou'll never believe it but we lost that game
>>565382372>have to stand behind cover and watchYour fault.Should have ganked other lanes or jungled more efficiently instead of just "standing and watching". I bet he blamed you for just standing and watching.
>Spectate the shitter Seven>Hes taking sinners by light meleeing them over and over, even during the little timing mini game at thee end not giving a shit
>>565380531yes
>>565378079dynamo has to be the most unga on my team, bunga on the other team character ever.
>>565383129A new era has begun!
>>565383384>play dynamo>do okay in lane>rape the midgame>ultimately lose because my retards flat out refuse to follow up on anythinglol!
>>565382738>leave your retard unwrangled and unsupervisedi suppose it would've made the game go a lot quicker
>>565383616>have to stand behind cover and watch>bro, I'm supervisingMaybe you are the retard after all.
>>565355770I laughed, anon.
how has infernus been in this state untouched for two months
Soloquene deadlock makes me mad as fuck, I believe it times to take a break.
>>565383943>One more game to end on a win!>3 losses later
>>565384184I get 3 games in a row which are hard fought/good teammates and we win. And then right after 3-4 games of just the worst feeders/some of the most 0 thought/ never look at the mini map or listen to team comms players.
>>565383893pls understand, small indie company, we only get to go to hawaii for three months
>>565383712bro i'm supervising stfu
>splatter spirit viscous is the secret braindead way to play the gamet. Alchemist 6 (former initiate 1)
>>565383893Others were just more broken taking the spotlight off of him
Lady Geist gets iPad
>winning game>get rejuv>one player decides to just jungle and do nothing the whole time>lose a fight cause sinclair steals our dynamo ult>this person is still jungling as our base walker gets pushed by creepsretard
>>565384647I will be so mad if they nerf it like they nerfed punch Viscous.
Every fucking time I pick Paradox I swear I get the most retarded inbred teammates imaginable. Yoshi took pity on me and I recently got a bunch of either even or easy matches, but the moment I switched to Paradox, 3 (three) of my teammates were busy farming enemy jungle while they were all distracted massacring our shrines. This goddamn hero is cursed.
Hey /dlg/ how do guys reset your mental/deal with 5 other players on your team not wanting to win/try to win the match?
>>565385208Play something else
i'm struggling, bros
>>565371374sorry I don't play drifter, anon.
>>565385372What games do you recommend?
>>565379792Horse cock is the g.o.a.t. cock
>>565385739Battletoads
>>565363409>both shadow weave and veil walkerNot a fan of shadow weave since it's 6400, you could probably just have one or the other if you're going for that but seems fine to me otherwise. It's a cool item but yeah like the other anon said, seems a win more item.
>>565385417Leave sinners alone, use helpers to push waves.Use money to buy debuff support items (knockdown, focus lens, cursed relic).
No patch today AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH ANOTHER WEEK OF DYNAMO INFERNUS AHAHAHAHAHAHAH
I can't fucking win. I just can't. 15-game lose streak now all because the other team gets Dashfernus and Dynamo and Haze every game while I get Paige and Rem and Pocket.
>>565385893Let me call my local gamestop.
>>565385995>Leave sinners alonewtf...
>>565386123Send helpers to push -> Gank a fight -> CC bot the enemy to death -> go to step 1If you've got time to poach sinners either you're hard winning or you're in the wrong place.
>>565385208i draw rem
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>>565371967what they're gooning over Graves or Rem? or dumbasses are complaining about what people are typing?
>>565386727everyone knows they're back by now
thread is asleep
>>565387504>becomes a must buy in literally every single game
>>565386727>when your job doesn't even have good health insurance
>>565387757>55s cooldown and triggered by silenceseems kind of shit desu, does the automatic cleanse even prevent the interrupt for channeled abilities, or does the stun go through for 0.1s first?
imagine playing paradox or holiday and knowing that you are intentionally pulling your team into a 30-minute 5v6
>>565362538>- Restorative Locket: Max Stacks increased from 20 to 25 (max stamina restore happens at 25 stacks now):)
>Shiv nerfed AGAINfucking hell
complete nothingburger updatehttps://store.steampowered.com/news/app/1422450/view/664986477286916766
>celeste buffsCan we kill this green dinosaur already?
good news everyone, Holliday is playable again!! 12+ damage on the lasso!!
>Apollo: Disengaging Sigil base damage reduced from 100 to 85Atleast one thing I wanted to get nerfed happened
>Frenzy: No longer grants +20% Spirit Resistance when below 50% Health>Frenzy: No longer grants +15% Base Spirit Resistance>Frenzy: No longer grants +0.75m Base Move Speed>Frenzy: Now grants +160 Health>Frenzy: Base Fire Rate increased from 10% to 15%>Frenzy: Low HP Move Speed increased from 2.5 to 4>Frenzy: Low HP now grants +30% Debuff Resistance (when Low HP procs, any existing debuffs are reduced by 30% duration)> Frenzy: Low HP Fire Rate increased from +25% to +40%> Frenzy: Low HP bonus is now given for a duration and has a cooldown, whenever you are below the 50% threshold. Lasts 10s and has an 16s Cooldown.Well that's a bit of a bummer. Might still be good, but I liked it as an anti-spirit item.
nigga
>Victor: Aura of Suffering T2 increased from +28 Max DPS to +34>Victor: Shocking Reanimation T3 increased from -100s Cooldown to -130st-thanks
>Getting knocked off bounce pads now sends you downwards quickly rather than continuing the trajectory towards the bounce pad destinationoh shit
>>565388682i can't believe they're spinning this as a bug and not an incredibly niche interaction
>SHADOW WEAVE BUFFSLET'S FUCKING GOOOOOOO
>>565388585almost doubling the CD reduction is pretty nice
>>565385739Depends, what games do you like playing.
>Trophy collecter now t2 meaning cost was cut in half>Only reduced stats by around 30%Feel like this will be sleeper op now.
>>565388001Paradox isn't THAT bad, grenade is strong and the ult has been, is and always will be useful. She just has two dead buttons and a shit gun. She's bad but not deadweight.Holliday though is a straight up do nothing hero for people who want to fly all game uselessly, nevermind how the usual Holliday picker has no idea how to even throw the barrels.
>Shiv: Alt fire knockback reduced by 10%It's over.
RUINED
>>565388943nvm it's also nerfed but Drifter buffs none the less
>>565388990yeah I'm buying trophy and enduring speed every game from now on
>>565388990no health is a pretty major drawback, I bought it on kelvin and mo to get faster AND tankier
Reactive barrier is worthless now
>update barely touched dynamo and dashniggerawesome
>- Frenzy: No longer grants +0.75m Base Move SpeedHoly cringe. Frenzy wasn't that good to begin with but these changes suck balls. I don't need debuff resist on it.
THEY BARELY NERFED DYNAMODASHINFERNUS IS STILL RUNNING FREEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA
>no kelvin nerfs>no doorman nerfsok
Gabe plays dynamo, get used to him being OP forever.
>>565389374>Infernus now deals half damage to objectivesIt's not the biggest hit but it does stop him talking an entire walker off one dash.
>barely touch infernus>dispel magic spirit res reducedlmao
this update is just going to make the current meta even more cancer imo
>>565389541it also got a 30% damage scaling nerf, now he isn't even top 5 for taking a walker really fast
>paige is now a 3 stam chad>sissy collector only costs 1600see you in eternus
SEVEN GODS WE ARE TOO HONEST. THE PERFECTLY BALANCED CHARACTER. BUT SOME CORE ITEMS WERE NERFED.
>Carry sissies still crying about honest clanker of press 4Lmao
>>565389103it got like a 10-20% power nerf for a price cut in half. It's a buff.
>- Infernus: Flame Dash DPS spirit scaling reduced from 1.0 to 0.7>- Infernus: Flame Dash DPS now does half damage to objectiveBYE BYE
>we waited for them to come back from hawaii for thisgrim
>Rem Buffs>Shiv Nerfs>Frenzy Nerfs>new manditory item everyone will but every gameI dont like it.
IN HOUSE75MY075MY075MY075MY0YOSHI IS A FAGGOT
>>565389754almost halved invis duration so its less potent as a roaming tool to gank peopleprobably a solid item now but worse at doing what I bought it for
What the fuck are those Frenzy changesYeah thanks Icefrog, who needs spirit resist when I can get debuff resist after everyone's thrown their shit already and I'm halfway dead
>everyone being overly reactionary about the nerfs not being overly reactionary
IN HOUSE75MY075MY075MY075MY0
>>565389974It makes me sad. I loved Frenzy. Loved the movespeed and tankiness it gave. It was the perfect item for Geist
>>565389992Aside from not touching toxic bullets this is objectively some big nerfs to the meta and will at least draw out games with carry sissies not eating walkers at 10 minutes.
Who the fuck are these niggers pretending they bought frenzy and on top of that why did yoshi feel like he needed to nerf frenzy? I've literally only seen billy players buy that fucking worthless item
>>565389974the spirit resist was in a weird spot where it was a overlap buy/other items stacked and made you reconsider it.also take note of this.>(when Low HP procs, any existing debuffs are reduced by 30% duration)That means the weird interaction where you need debuff resist before ult debuffs hit you in order to apply isn't a thing here too.So you'll slide right out of holliday's lasso/m&k ult at high speeds if it activates
>>56538944530% damage nerf and 50% objective damage nerf but sure i guess he's running free
>>565389992I'm surprised resto locket didn't get more violently raped.It's still worth a buy desudesune.
>3 items that build from bootsI'm buying all of them every game
>greenslop metaoh boy oh boy
>>565390097>>565389884we need 5 patriots please!!!
MELEEGODSIT'S OUR TURN
>yoshi agrees that silver is too strong once again and nerfs herbased yoshi not listening to seekergods on dlg
>>565390280>Reactive barrier was already a must buy into a lot of spirit nukers>Now even better Weird but okay, not sure why.
>new to the game>don't know half what they touchedbusiness as usual i guess
>>565390521they can just parry again
>Colossus nerfHuh. There's four heroes in the game who have enough base health at max boon to make it anything but a straight up downgrade.
>>565390679dont worry about it kitten just buy green and blue items
>>565390451>M1tards still won't buy greens and cry that spirit damage is op when they 1v6 at 20 minutes.
>>565390734no i actually love greenslop i love living forever
dashfernus nerfed? dynamo untouched? i guess im a black hole nigger now
>>565387757quicksilver sash isn't a must-buy but it's a good item.
nerfing shiv movement is a good excuse to take a break from this game, thanks yoshi
>>565388854that's actually 10/10it's so annoying hitting someone on a pad to buff and they still end up exactly where they want to go with enough time to steal it
You can now defend your walker without dying to a dot while your walker melts.
>>565390528>my wife deserves buffs>instead she gets nerfsSad...
>- Paradox: Time Wall T2 weapon damage increased from +30% to +35%Yoshi my man. This is not working. Nobody is going to form a firing line, even if you try to bribe them with another 5%. Just let the damn wall actually do something so people would ever want the extra charge.
>Paige: Stamina increased from 2 to 3Hot
>>565387975good for all in initiators that get raped by disablesbilly mostly
oh god, all the trophy collector retards are now going to get rewarded for their brainless "decision"
>>565391113>almost a 70% winrate on nightshift and first pick/ban for weeks>deserves buffsnope
such is life in mamdani's new york
>>565391221>No you can't make a niche item good!>I have to have an arbitrary hatred for it and chip out when people use items I don't like!
>>565391221I'm going to buy it,Every.Single.Game.You can't stop me.
>Paige: Dash speed reduced to slow bucketWhat?
>>565391415Mobility was one of the few things she had going for her, she's total shit now
>>565391238She deserves a 100% winrate
no one cares about your pisslow opinionjoin the inhouse bitch75MY075MY075MY0
>nobody cares about your pisslow opinion>come join the ascendant and phantom players in the inhouseoh the ironing
Coming back to the game after a 3 months break1. Do Celeste still plays the same?2. Silver status?
>bounce pads>gutted>trophy collector>gutted>Abrams>gutted>Paradox>least useful abilities are now like 0.0285% more useful>Shadow Weave>gutted for that one person actually using it>Gutshot>gutted>your favorite flavors of cancer>left untouched and here to stay>>565391127that's my girl
this is what i think of whenever i see a mo and krill /abrams/billy player
>>565391256need only 1 for ih
>>565391750>1. Do Celeste still plays the same?Gun and hybrid builds seem better now, especially after this patch>2. Silver status?Loveable failure of a woman, as always
>>565391752>trophy collector>guttedIt's now half the cost and the only big hit was health and you don't miss a ton of early stacks in lane.
>0/10/4 do nothing rem player shit talking the teamMany such cases.
>>565389067they've done this like 6 times lol i wonder how strong it was at first
would victor edge himself
>>565391752gutshot is cancer and does ridiculous burst damage while doubling as a stun and movementdo retards in this thread still think venator is weak or something
>Indomitableyesssssss basically linkins sphere
>>565392106Victor's struggle is that it feels like he's edging someone else
>enemy apollo is a blatant smurf who goes 30/0are "smurf" reports real or is it just a placebo? like how you used to be able to report people for "unskilled play" in old LoL
>No Geist nerfs
Oh shit, gun nerfs. > I was playing hybrid Geist the whole time> I was right and not wrong
>Souls required for boons after 13.2k/15k/17k/+2k per boon to 13.2k/14.5k/+1.5k per boon (ends at 40k instead of 49k)Holy shit they're really trying to speed up the gane
>>565392106I would edge Victor
>>565392242reports are not placebo, you'll literally have a bored discord nigger from when they wanted volunteers to review manual reports; review it, them and you if you put it in
>>565392416They just made all objectives tankier, this is just rounding out the power curve so both teams can hit late game power spikes instead of the ahead team getting to 50k each and winning before the opponents hit 30.
>Dynamo gets off scot free again
>>565392416they added bullet resist to objectives so they needed to speed up the rest of the game or we would be looking at another 45 minute average patch
what's a retarded build for retards to try outlike gun rem but stupider
>>565392780that retarded spirit efx venator traps build someone went crazy over would probably upset your teams
>>565392757cant nerf the easy mode reddit clip farming characterthat would get rid of 50% of the player base
>>565392780Melee paige, the spirit scaling has some wacky combos.
>>565392780spirit driftermax your 2 and let it bleed the shit out of them and then teleport behind them to finish them offcompletely countered by dispell magic but its hilarious when it works
>>565391221>subpar item becomes good>"NOOOOOOOOO STOP BUYING IT NOOOOOOOOOOOOO"?
>>565392891they did that with doorman, they're obviously not fucking scared to nerf characters given how hard they nerfed mo and krill too
>the smallest, most inconsequential Rem buff>the top supports untouched so Dynamo and Kelvin get to be stupidfuckers
>>565388682Get absolutely fucked. It was because of me. Because I posted about it on the forums
>>565393210>In order to alleviate the issues people have with supports, we gave Rem a small buff. We hope this made dealing with Dynamo and Kelvin easier!What did Yoshi mean by this?
>>565393104the problem isn't that they are buying it when it's good, the problem is they are buying it regardless of it being good or not. it's even worse than LR builds
>>565388682LMAOvroyper isnt even good, let her have this niche interaction man wtf
where were the buffs for the worst hero in the game
>>565392365First of all she's already back to B tier. And her life drain got reduced again
>>565393746here you go
>>565393543thanks for your input alchemist player
>>565393543>vroyper isnt even good, let her have this niche interaction man wtfhaha yeah... she's soooo bad
>>565393825they need to just give paradox base bullet dmg back alreadydo you know how awkward it is to do damage for ants with a burst rifle
>>565391752The shadowweave nerf is insane. I used it a lot. It was great because it was a niche item that was great but people never used it because it was a active. Now they fucked it up. It was perfect before because the 18 seconds was needed so you could roam and jump people. You could travel from one end of the map to the other almost. 10 seconds is to shot because you don't move as fast like with magic carpet. The whole point of that item is to jump people off guard. Now its being used as a item to use right before a team fight. The out combat Regen was great because I didn't need to buy a green and max out gun for burst damage.
21 mega byte update
All the carry sissies shiddin their diapies that the supports aren't nerfed but you know the second they aren't getting handed a free win by rolling dynamo as their lane partner they'll start to crying about how useless and dogshit their team is while going 0/6 in lane then complain supports need to be removed for not feeding them ten kills before 3 minutes.Same thing happened in league, dota, and valorant.
> Dynamo: Kinetic Pulse spirit scaling reduced from 1.8 to 1.65> Dynamo: Quantum Entanglement cooldown increased from 19s to 20sHAH.HHAHAHAHAHAHAHHATHE DEVS DO NOT FUCKING PLAY THIS GAME I SWEAR TO GOD
Why.Do.They keep.Nerfing her?
>new item denies doorman's ultbased
>>565394125Eternus players will not shut the fuck up about her being S tier, even after her 10000th nerf in a row.
Keep downplaying your character, the nerfs come regardless.
>>565393937It's a win more item haze and drifter use to turn the game into a 4v6.It definitely needed nerfs.
what the hell are they talking about in the steam discussions??? are these bots??
>>565394168what if i silence wave you before popping ult?
>>565394168two stamina denies doormans ultreactive barrier ensured denials of doormans ult but they just took that away from me, the cunts
>Added a new T4 Vitality item, Indomitable. Upgrades from Reactive Barrier. Causes the next Stun, Chain, Immobilize, Sleep, or Silence from players to be automatically removed. When this happens, you gain a barrier and all your ability cooldowns are reduced by 20%. Cooldown: 55s. Innate: +8% Bullet Resistance and +8% Spirit Resistance.AND HOW DOES THIS MITIGATE DYNAMO PLAYERS BEING ABLE TO PURGE ALL DEBUFFS *HOW* EXACTLYYEAH SURE, LET'S JUST GIVE DYNAMO EVERYTHING HE NEEDS TO BUILD HIS ANTI-DEBUFF KIT AND TURN HIS TEAM INTO THE SERVER ADMIN TEAM.
>>565393865>6.4k investment>not allowed a 50% proc in a niche situationyeah alright
65 second lasso is pretty sweetfeels like I can show up and win every fight
>>565394350>Only real comment is this guy
>>565393937To be fair being bumped from t4 to t3 means you could buy like improved duration or cooldown or something to help make up for it. If its too big of a nerf they'll probably buff it up next update.Trophy collector was already sorta ehh and even if its cheaper it got nerfed with the tier reduction, kek
>>565394168I'm surprised they allowed it to work on ult effectsI guess since it's a t4 like DB it's allowed to be a "strong" debuff/denyso it's just Linken's right?
>>565394459>>565389739
Why aren't you boxmaxxing?
I will pay 6400 and have shitty positioning and not get punished.
>>565394168>countered by silence wavethe horror!
>counterspell getting nothing but nerfsthat yoshi maining abrams joke gets funnier by the day
>>565394350bot quantity multiplied by x1000 because of steam points
>>565394827>hits you with TWO debuffs instead of one>now you've paid 4x as much for a reactive barrier
>80s victor ult>buy witchmail and indomitableits time to RAPE
New items literally makes characters like Mo, Bebop, even lash, pretty much worthless in terms of carry potential?>want to pick their carry? Too bad they bought a green that means you can't CC them with the most important part of your kit
>>565394906it still needs to not work against ults, I am literally getting full teams of counter-spell against me as lash and its annoying lmao
>>565395026>>565394886You say this like requiring two points of interaction isn't a huge nerf.Every prerequisite introduces another point of failure in a combo and added investment from the user.
>>565394293Rapebait
>>565395189Its 6400 souls, doesn't build from anything, and has a cooldown that is almost as big as unstoppable with less overall valueIf anything this item is a godsend for lash/vindicta/grey talon/mo&krill because they either channel spells or fly around and it lets them cancel out one "fuck you" effect without having to break channeling or having to parry or anything
gabe: guys, these status effect debuffs or whatever are fucking stupid. can you like... get rid of some of them?yoshi: sure thing gabe!>creates Indomitable>>at valve, we hear you about how hard it is to actually play the game, and not get fucked over by status effects because you decided to push a 1v6 like a retard. That's why we added this new item for all of the poor gamer dads out there that don't want to play the game. It even gives you resists and cooldowns on your abilities!the motherfucking gabe newell power trip item, everyone
>>565395136Shiv and Dynamo are about to go completely retarded too
>>565395269>easily accessible counters aren't a big deal if you fuck upyeah if you're a fuck up then indomitable is crazyjust buy the silence wave
>>565346534>Venator nerfed again>absolutely nothing for Wraith>nothing burger Infern nerf >Kelvin ignoredSomeone please explain the plan here?
>>565395385it builds from reactive but I agree that it isn't any better than unstoppable
>rem becomes even more obsolete than he already ishilarious. I love you yoshi
>>565395418>The irony of saying this about indomitable, and easily accessible counterLmao
>Look up E6 games on statlocker>Counterspell buyers only generally only used it once or twice based on healing receivedThis item is either way upplayed or even top rank players don't actually play the game well.
>>565395487They want to see how far they can push the game's design before the player counts start dipping hard; that's when they'll actually bring in the big boys to unfuck whatever the hell they're trying to do here
>>565385417Dont play that shit hero just play paige
>>565395623turns out parrying spells is actually really hard
>>565395487It's like how newbie pilots pilot their first airplane. They actually have a bunch of novice game designers on Deadlock who have no idea what the hell they're doing and don't play the game, but they won't tell you that publically.
>>565368818>>565363067based and true >>565363169anyone who dislikes dota isnt straight
>>565395623Honestly it's more intimidation factor.If you build counter then the last, infernus, gheist have to be more careful about when they ult.
Icefag came out of vacation and IMMEDIATELY executed half of the heroes in the game
>>5653956231 or 2 is significant when it's ults
why do people commend to make you "mad"?I see it every time I call someone outit's so passive-aggressive and gayactual low T behavior
>>565395853and made dynamo more busted than he already was (literal fucking black hole that eats all of your debuffs now with indomitable AND fully upgraded 2)
>>565395904I see you are totally not mad after getting commended yet again
>>565395487>Venanti-catholic sentiment>Wraithshe's going to move up further and then get hit next patch. maybe. I don't know>Kelvinmatchmaking still prioritizes having at least one support per team so they want them to be busted. Ivy and Dynamo weren't hit either. Rem is still mid because they don't know what to do with him
>>565395904Because it clearly works enough to piss people off, and you are the prime example of that
>Trying to learn Shiv & Venator>Actually doing pretty well with them, getting a lot of kills (Especially Venator who I usually go like 2/10 on)>Problem is I keep getting awful teammates (had a Vindicta one match who never used her flight or trap once)>Get one match with my usual main Rem>Absolutely massacre the team>Start winning againPerhaps this is a sign
>>565396000yes I am seething for getting a positive boost to my account because you were too much of a bitch to just reply normally
>linkins sphere added to the gameI don't want to play anymore.
>>565396067>I am not seething!!>seethingwhat did anon mean by this
>>565395538woops yeah it does build out of italso do we know if indominable is 20% total cd reduction or 20% remaining? like if I dynamo ult and have 160cd, then it triggers when im at 40cd left, does it just refresh the spell instantly or does it only do it by like 8 seconds
>>565396165>>565396052>y-you're seething!does this work?
>>565396153THEY ADDED THE WHAThttps://www.linkedin.com/company/valve-corporation
>complains about commends>>LOW T HUMANSSSS>>I AM NOT MAD!!!textbook definition
>>565395904I was commended by my lane partner who pushed out past the creeps (who were at our tower) to dive the enemy tower for the half HP Apollo, and promptly died. It's the only time somebody has done a BM commend and I've concluded it's done by retards with zero emotional regulation skills >>565396339Like this guy seems prime retard material.
Why did they nerf reactive barrier so hard?
>>565396187huh
>>565396385because they gave it an upgrade that you will 100% buy if you got reactive in the first place.
Why would I ever buy Unstoppable when I could buy Indomitable for the exact same effect PLUS barrier PLUS cooldowns
>>565396385because now it builds into a broken item
it stayed there the entire match making noise
>>565396536>blocks one instance of silence wave>gets raped
>>565396536does Indom stop curse?
>>565395385>>565395538I think it's better than unstop. Honestly the worst part about unstop is that you often can't anticipate a CC and if you do they'll just wait until it's over and 5 seconds isn't very long.
>>565396378>Like this guy seems prime retard material.the one who's complaining hypocritically or the one who's pointing out the complaining
is shadow weave on drifter legit now?
>Buffed Trophy Collector by nerfing it
>>565396576I've seen it attach to a player and make noise while following themat least the Celeste and her team couldn't hear it>where's Billy?>YEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Dynamo is now finally balanced
>>565396875they'll probably increase the stats when they see nobody is buying it at tier 2cultist is just flat out better because if you rush it by 8 minutes you get a instant 500 soul rebate and way more useful stats
>>565397000dafuq does it even do though
patch status?
why did they nerf shiv knives when dash is the problem
>>565396840always was
>>565396875It was already niche but usable, held back by how long it takes to save for and that you often missed 3-4 stacks before getting it. Now you can get it almost immediately and will get 2-3 stack faster.
We will still be banning Dynamo.
>>565397082dogshit nigger garbage unironically lmao
>Linkens sphere added to the game with niggfernus, Mina, and ApolloFor fucks sake.
>>565396742the original post wasn't even complaining, literally asking why it happenedyou're actually mad though
>>565397182>linkens spherefuck you're right
>>565397082It's like they listened to feedback, and then did the exact opposite of what we wanted them to doI thought Valve was notorious for their excellent player feedback listening skills, but I guess the fuck not at this moment
>>565397082you can throw on the hero select screen by not banning (or picking) dynamo
>>565397148They can’t ban an atom
>>565397206>actual low T behaviorListen, it's ok to feel upset. Do you have any therapist you can talk to about these... "Low T" people you harbor no apparent rage for commenting you for? It's ok, let out. We're here for you.
K4X02K4X02K4X02K4X02New rape house
>>565395653I've stayed away from deadlock for a couple months at this point. This game is in a shit state and it keeps getting worse.
Why shouldn't I buy Golden Goose Egg, Trophy Collector, and Indomitable every game
>Paige: Dash speed reduced to slow bucket
>>565397365because uuhhhhhhh>I'M DOIN IT!!umm, yeah you tell em dynamo....
>>565397412Dear God...
>only buffs are some tiny (literally 2%) changes to his T3 upgrades bros...
>paigelolLOL
>2k games >Seen only 1 hacker>This week only>4 hackers I see the devs do not give a single solitary fuck anymore
>no sinclair buffs or reworks of abilities since december, but one new item and some weird fucky orb thing that screams at youonly the best in the game dev business get to work at valve, truly
Does indomitable work on Doorman's ult? I'm done playing if that's true.
>>565397923terrible news for the joe chuck vortex web cheat death community I see
>>565397923yes but you can just bait it with silence wave or something like that
>>565397923works on lash's ult. have fun being useless late game unless you get refresher.
>>565397764he was already strong as fuck i had 126 stacks today
>>565398018>works on lash's ultkekek what the fuck is this dumb nigger yoshi doing. what a dogshit patch, better to be silent and have people assume the devs are retards than to push out a shit patch and confirm it
>queue as a five stack>get carried by the randomthere are no words for this shame
>>565397923bro your silence wave?
>>565398075Very cute dog but he's a troll pick above phantom
>>565398118Yes. Late game lash will be useless lmao
>>565397897>no sinclair buffsGood. Sinclair should be deleted from the fucking game.
>>565398210>character (spirit nuker) is so useless late game that he becomes an ultbot so people start buying gun items on him to stay relevant when not ulting (already countered by a t3)>now countered by buying a good item that requires no thoughtlol
>>565398201Only because they're retarded and buy gun items. Spirit drifter where it's at
>kills your game
>>565397897Why would Sinclair need buffs?
>the man(?) whose core ability is his reincarnation and aura of suffering??? TOO MUCH SUFFERING. AURA OF LE MILD SADNESS.>the woman who shoots lots of bullets in a... bullet dance??? TOO MANY BULLETS. SHUT IT DOWN. BULLET CONE.>the man who is all about getting in their face, surviving off his life steal, and being a tank??? NO MORE SPIRIT. YOU BUILD GUN. GUNLOCK. TOXIC BULLET. SIPHON BULLET. NOW NOW NOW. MELEE HERO. YOU GET AUTO PARRIED.it's kind of amazing how first it was Victor, then Haze, and now Abrams is being crept with the identity crisisthey literally can't help but strip the entire cast while protecting their self-insert chungus babies like Dynamo
I'm buying 1600 gold trophy collector every game on supports dude>>565397764Melee drifter kinda back though
K4X02K4X02K4X02K4X021 more for inhouse <3
>>565398413the fuck are these codes? nuculear?
>>565398379wtf theres a new Jeb! hero?
>buy witchmail>buy indomitable >Literally unkillable
Just how bad is Abrams now
This is the hardest I've laughed at patch notes for a gameimagine adding an item that invalidates almost every character's ult, on top of resists, on top of cooldown reductionMy fucking sides hurt man holy fuck I'm crying
>>565398383he just needs SOMETHING man. I'm tired of him being either hitler or completely irrelevant for the entire match. He hasn't been touched by icefrog since december, and it's been getting pretty annoying
>>565398585>try to ult someone to start a fight with a pick as MnK past 25 minutes>he laughs as he gains a barrier and dashes away>i go to hide in my little cuck burrowsimply amazing
>>565396875The need to make the max stacks 20. Then it would be okay. I just used it and mid-late game I sure felt the lack of the health. But you can stomp in early game.
So is cursed relic just mandatory on doorman now?
How does indomitable affect the parastocks?
>>565398934better buy silence wave
>>565398878no but silence wave is now, since that's how you'll be activating indomitable's cd
>second time a Holliday has decided a match was over within the first 15 minutes because someone made a misplay in a lane they weren't even in, then spent the rest of the game complaining about rankwell congratulations, you annoyed me enough to complain about it on 4chan. Holliday and I even DOMINATED our lane 5-0, I don't get it.
>add Linkens sphere>make it prioritize status effects instead of any point target ability>give it a fucking shield>reduce cooldown of everythingWhat the actual fuck were they thinking?
>>565399042SEND GABE NEWELL ANOTHER EMAIL PLEASETELL HIM TO FIRE YOSHI HOL Y FUF UUUUUU UUCCK KK KK KK
What a dogshit update, uninstalling the game. But ill check the steamcharts every once in a while to laugh at yoshit for ruining a perfectly good game with his incompetence
>>565398934>>565398978You just need to use the wall proactively instead of slapping it down behind you and ulting someone through it.
>>565398557>could already shut Abrams down with one of the gajillion silence effects...>one of the tragillion healing reduction effects...>or by rubbing two brains cells together and coming to the reality shattering conclusion that standing in the giant fucking blue warning circle HURTS and HEALS HIM and everyone should fucking SPREAD OUT, DO WE NOT KNOW HOW AOES WORK??????????>...>"nerf his ass"Abrams just won't die! -> Abrams just dies!
just pull the plug at this fucking point
How do you survive as mina in big boy ranks where people buy slowing hex? She moves like a snail and relies on her teleport
>>565362496YOU STILL GET SENT TO THE FUCKING HOTEL EVEN IF YOU FUCKING PARRY IT ON TIME
as lash I welcome this because entire teams were buying counterspell and using it to just ignore my ultnow a non zero # of them will buy this instead, which I can easily put on cooldown because lash's 1 counts as an immobilize with its 2nd upgrade lmao
>>565399227>how do I survive playing [shitty character]you don't
>RUN FOR YOUR PITIFUL LIVES!>Indomitable kicks in>runs for their pitiful livesYoshi does it again
they somehow made the current dogshit meta even worse, i didn't even think it was possible good job Yoshi
>>565399152she already dogshit, the gap between holliday/paradox and the rest of the cast just got bigger. Wonder how the nerf will effect gunbop
>>565399227debuff remover
>>565399335genuinely impressiveI think yoshi is trying to belt his community, luckily I have gabe on speed dial, so I'll just ask him to belt yoshi for being a gigaretard this time around
>infinite mobility infernus is still a thingwtf is going?
>>565399424sum is going alright
>>565399424erm he does have damage to objectives now chud!
revert the patchit is the only way to save this dogshit gamethe only fucking way I beg of you
>>565399227locket and dispel
I just realized something. Will Indomitable make Geist a higher tier because of the silence on her ult? She runs in and uses it to proc the silence which procs everyone's Indomitable, and then Lash/Dynamo ult once Indomitable is gone.
In 3 days all these armchair devs screeching their brains out will call this the best patch ever.
seriously what did this update even do? It barely addressed the massive issues with the current meta/balance and it just made it even worse.
>>565399602the fact that you have to do allat shit, and change up strats THIS much for just one item; NOT A BUILD MIND YOU, just ONE item that costs 6400 souls is so mindnumbingly fucking retarded
>>565389256then you bought it for wrong reasons, you actually buy it for souls per minute and sprint speedhope this helps!
>>565399672This is a great patch! It fixed all of the issues with the game, Valve has done it yet again!
>>565399672the new item is great because i want to abuse meleenothing else matters. just delete dynamo from the game btw
>>565399672They didn't buff Viscous so it can't be a good patch, I'm not really sure we needed linkens in this game but I'll have to actually play matches with this patch to see if it's good. Dynamo getting tickled is a bad sign.
>>565398585>go test if it works with dynamo>doesn't even try to activatejust like reactive barrier and his 1
>>565399602I've heard enough, nerf shiv's mobility
>>565399721it did what ever update does when we are waiting too long for a patch.it causes extreme asspain
>>565398398Abrams' original concept was jumpscaring niggas with 800 damage headshots howeverthougheverbeit
>>565398728Silence wave is core on Mo + Krill now just to pop this thing
it works against parries lmao, and if you get parried you'd get a 400 damage shield and cooldown reduction so just start meleeing if they're running
Dynamochads... we cant stop winning >>565399884didnt they just add that 10% back in the last patch or two? now they remove it again. Like they are adding parts from old Haze ult back into it... I have faith in this dev team, they will carry the game into release in a great state for sure
Dynamo is FINALLY BALANCED!
>>565399602I've heard enough, give Rem unstoppable during his pillow throw
Hopefully they add Phantom Lancer too in the next set of characters so I can drop this game for good.
>>565399806>They didn't buff Viscous so it can't be a good patchbut they did buff viscous
>>565399672No they won't, they're far too stubborn for that.They'll continue to insist they could do better.
>>565400001parryschizo won
>>565400001BILLY!!!I HAVE REMOVED PARRIES FOR YOU BILLY!!!DO YOU LIKE THIS CHANGE BILLAYYYY??????!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>565388682>>565388884wait a minute. i've seen this one before
>>565400057the new item doesnt effect Dynamo, we won so fucking hard
>>565400062they have two real stinkers sitting around in the form of trapper(instakills for walking through veils) and slork(permainvis), don't worry bro.
>>565400112yoshi hates this fucking gen I SWEAR to godhe's laughing at us I bet, while we can do nothing but throw slurs at each other in desperate, misdirected rage
>>565400001Yeah or you could buy unstoppable and have multiple seconds of parry immunity
>new item doesn't affect dynamo but it affects doormanwhat kind of self-insert bullshit wattpad ao3 fantasy fanfic balancing bullshit am I apart of? I WANT OUT DAMNIT. GET ME THE FUCK OUT OF HEREEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Modbeasts RUN this general
>>565398158this game allows 5 stacks? that's so fucking cancerousa new low from valve as expected
So this is the power of boosted infernus players post nerfs... subarashii...
>>565400001YESFUCK PARRIES
>dynamo stomp doesn't trigger indomitable>dynamo ult doesn't trigger indomitable Is this the most privileged character in the game?
>>565400463>gunfernusalchemist-kun....
>>565400503>but doorman ult activates itmy. fucking. sides. obliterated.he is literally just bellman nowI fucking KNEEL icefrog
>>565400463the haze retards moved on to infernus, now what do they do
Not reinstalling until they balance the game properly
>>565400657Dynamo
>>565400669you expect that to ever happen? Especially with how they handled the last batch and a new one surely incoming? LOL
>>565400732No
>>565400001Parry scripts eternally btfo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9Yomqk0C6kE&tvalve is the best company ever at playtesting their gamesdon't make me call gabe in here, you little monkey freaks
Counter spell>skill check>heals you>blocks a spell you timed perfectlyIndomitable>blocks a spell with you ever doing anything cause the game is a VFX spam slop>overpowered shit
>>565400657i predicted thisseven is the only unnerfed hypercarry left
>>565397412Males have three stamina too
>>565400923he is gabe newell's son self-insert power-fantasy hero; it has to be the only reason he's lived this long without getting amputated
>base doesn't heal if you have indomitableokay
>>565391762that's an infernus/haze/wraith player if anything
>>565400991>he is gabe newell's son self-insert power-fantasy heroProof?
>Mcginnis already s teir in high elo>Buffed her turrets, heal, and itemsTime for warcrimes.
With the Haze buffs Graves is now the uncontested worst hero in the game
>>565400449I only have the mod where it plays green day during billy's 3 and the posters here we're right, it is like playing on steroids
>>565401086he literally is seven but in human form from top-to-bottom. they even nickamed him "seven" when he was a little kid. how tf do you not know this anon?
Snoozeville update, all these micro adjustments mean piss all
>>565400963>Turn paige in a cute sissy failmale I will now play your game.
>Welcome to the Baro- ACK!!>NO NO NO WAIT WAIT WAIT
>>565401278>Silence wave or vortex web first to pop it>Welcome to the Baroness
>>565400991>it has to be the only reason he's lived this long without getting amputatedhe already got amputated, do you not remember when his movement speed used to scale real good with spirit to the point proniggers were twitching spastically on him for infinite ammo while moving
>>565401206as she should be. i would be happy if they removed her autoaim and buffed her though, autoaim chars will attract normies and women (biological) which will ruin the game
>>565401262>how tf do you not know this anon?I live under a rock
>>565401265>micro adjustments paired with gigantically large adjustments that completely break the fucking gameWhat do they call this strategy?
>>565401262Why did he give himself a rice field hat?
>Our solution to the buff debuff slopfest is to add even more counterspells this time you it's even automatic Nigga... If my team is getting raped by dynamo and I can't even stun him what the fuck are you supposed to do.
>>565401368it lasts for 10 seconds AND the doorman can't luggage cart you away. though the doorman can still escape through a door
>indomitable blocks you from getting rejuvgreat patch yoshit
>>565394993awards give no points anymore.
>>565401490I'M DOIN' IT!!!!!
>>565400609Let me guess. You still get sent to the baroness and you still get the ult cooldown reset if they don't escape but it blocks the stun just like counterspell?
>>565401013>>565401528I need recordings of this statHow did they fuck up the code on literally just reactive barrier?
>>565401490Time for applied science!
>>565401464he is a closeted weeb I'm afraid
>>565401523>it lasts for 10 secondsYou've misunderstood how the item works. It blocks one single instance of CC. The 10 second duration is for the barrier it gives you when it does this.
Kneel to us Dynamo GODS...
>>565395396gamer dads are the faggots pressing 1 button to shut down a carry. this new item would actually allow real gamer neet she/hercels to bend over these gamer dads and rape them with their fat stinky gock.
This game desperately needed the new item, Fuck mo&krill monkeys and also wraith niggers, unstopable was useless garbage because it barely lasts long enough to justify the cost.
>>565401490>the year is 2026>introducing the new 12,800 soul item 'Panic Button'>"automatically grants you immunity to a single instance of Singularity" on a 60s CD>however Dynamo still hasn't been nerfed - but rather buffed, and now possesses multiple charges of Singularity
>>565401875yoshi does it again
>>565401864that's an odd way to pronounce "poo&shit" but alright anon
Ragequiting in an inhouse is kind of sad
>lash on the other team>buy indomitable>ignore him every fight
>>56539820155% Eternus winrate today broseph
shivGAWDS... I don't feel so good..
>>565402003>Here comes the grand fina-- AUGHHHHHHHHHHH!!!DynamoGODS can't stop, won't stop winning
I think im dropping this game.
>>565401270Eat shit tranny freak
>>565402003Wow you spent 6400 souls on something everyone already did with counterspell
Wasn't counterspell already great against lash?
>>565402113Lash can wait out your counterspell and then throw you though
>>565402197Yeah but just in case he buys refresher you can just make him commit suicide with an extra barrier
Deadgame
>>565402197Yes, but now it's even better when paired with Indomitablesorry lash mains, no longer allowed to play the game
>>565401778oh that makes a lot more sense. afaik the barrier looks like unstoppables barrier but i guess you're actually able to be cc'ed in it? in that case yeah its shit for a t4 item
>>565402113And now I don't even have to press parry
Soul soulless
>>565402227you can see when he presses to pull you in
The fact that parryschizo actually won this patch really goes to show fucked the balancing is for this game.I mean... THE DEADLOCK GENERAL SCHIZO fucking WON. Is that not alarming in the slightest?
>>565393543>vroyper isnt even good?
>>565401278It should've been a human on this icon. To represent the indomintable human spirit obviously
>>565402292I'm so tired of forced DEI garbage
>>565402371shhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
>>565402292>Old = Uncontrollable power that overwhelms the user>New = Warm hand energy
>>565402292>boundless spirit to handful spirit???
>>565402292boundless spirit handjob
>>565402292wtf its a hand? I thought it was a sauron or razor type helmet.
>>565402275There'll be games where you'll want it and counterspell over unstoppable probably, and if you're already buying reactive it's only 4800. It cucks Mo and Krill because they didn't really buy anything that could trigger it but by the time people are buying it they can just yell on mic for someone to pop indomitable before they ult.
I hate the new itemt.doorgod player
>wake up from a nap>new patchSo.Gun Pocket and Vyper got hit.Chadow Weave is actually a buyable item now WAKE UP DRIFTERGAWDS we're going to be RAPINGInhibitor nerfed, the util is still good but it's no longer a gun item on greenI guess they don't want Spirit Drifter after all since they melee damage on T3 Rend also benefits Gun Drifter.
>>565402545unironically would've been a much better choice than... a handwow this patch really is shit
>no abrams nerf>no graves buffswhy are these retarded devs like this
>>565402579>gun pocket hitThis is retarded, I guess you're only allowed to be an ultbot
>>565402605Yeah but the big 5 got nerfs, so i'm ok with it.
>>565402545The progression from extra to improved to boundless was the spirit thing getting bigger with it annihilating the hand in the last one and now it's just slightly bigger again instead
>>565402691who?
>get slammed by ivy>now stuck to her unable to perform any action
>>565402292this is the biggest downgrade this game has ever seen jesus
>>565402660at least rem got to be an ultbotnow with the inclusion of indomitable, he is literally just heroic aura: the item as a playable character with an optional pillow throw ability
collector
>>565402748Dynamo, Geist, Mirage, Silver, and Venator.
>>565402787still nowhere near to the toxic bullet change.
>>565402853Silver isn't a big five, she's big dumb
>>565402829It's literally just a lighter shade of green, and they somehow made it worse. Yeah, let's just put a light color behind another light colorwhat the fuck valve? stop making things look worse what the fuck
>>565402605Abram does not need a nerf
I see they did literally nothing to fix Guardians dealing zero damage and one sided games continue to get worse and worse.
shadow weave
>>565402605Siphon Life got nerfed with the universal changes to lifesteal
>>565402992anything but working on sinclair
>>565403049It'd be really fun if that's his final model for games release.
>>565402853I don't see Wraith on that list though. Which I guess she wasn't nerfed anyways, for some reason, but you know.
>>565401875Imagine if they let dynamo be able to throw the singularity from his body and have it drag everyone as it locks them in
>>565402787toxic bullets used to have the coolest icon ever. Can't believe they never repurposed itWas it really because China hates skulls?
Ok, so this fucking proves Valve is not listening to any god damn feedback. McGinnis STILL cannot use Divine Kevlar
>>565403224What did it look like?
>>565402394It represents abrams breaking the final chain left stopping him from raping you with melee after he gets buffed a few more times.
>lifesteal changesvictorbros...
>>565403269every update for the past 2 months at least has proved that
>>565403224>he still believes the "skeleton bad" wives' tailwhat decade are you in
>>565403193the ol' Tassadar black hole
>>565403224look at the icon for crippling headshot
>>565403385*taleinb4 accused of being a cpc shill for a typo
>>565402829>>565402992So why are they just making shit brighter? Quite literally making the game less "Noir"
shiv nerfed, I uninstall game. fuck you nigger yoshi
>Comeback urn activates when enemy gets too high of a soul advantage.>They can easily sweep a team trying to run a comeback BECAUSE they have a high enough soul advantage.Literally how do we fix shit design like this?
>>565403385>>565403497okay so why did they change it (plus another dozen different skull icons removed)everyone was literally sucking off that icon alone for being so cool looking and they just change it to a gay snake thing
What does Doorman even do now? The only good thing about him was that he could remove someone from the game for a bit.
>>565403889Because a motif of a skull doesn't scream poison as loud as a snake does.That's it.
>>565403951uhmmmmmm the epic door cart plays???????????????????????
So, when are they planning to actually launch the game?
>>565403951holy fuck when is the doormen meta finally gonna be "team uses the doors too" instead of these dogshit gimmicks like kipnapping, or infinite stunsYour entire team could be two places at once with even a little coordination with a doorman but NO ONE bothers. They'd rather he be the world's most annoying ambusher
>>565404209as soon as yoshi steps down
>>565403951>character based around lockdown of a single character (Doorman)Bad>character based around lockdown of entire team (Dynamo)Good
All graves players deserve deathThat is all.
>update available>close game>no updatebravo kojima
>>565404236No team will ever bother using a teammates doors. They will 100% ignore them, then complain he's dead weight.
Is movement the most troon mechanic in the game and is Silver the most troon character in the game?
>>565401631no, completely eats his ult and sends it to cooldownyou can of course cart them before it, but it's a nerf to degenerates running towards you spamming ult and setting everything up later
>>565403951buy silence wave>NOOOOO STOP MAKING ME THINKI know its hard for a doorman but its time to learn the game
>>565404504In my elo it's Paige players unironically.
>>565404504I hate the retard movement mechanics in this game so yeah its troon coded
I like new trophey collector.
>>565404504why are troons like this
>>565402079we're all dashmaxxing now>but mystic reverb got ner-we don't care
>>565404236I place escape doors all the time and it's a 50/50 chance the teammate has a brain and uses it.
what an awful patch all around holy fuck
>>565404504Movement exploits have been a hallmark of source games since the 2000s kys zoomer faggot
>>565403705Because it's a lower tier, retard.
>>565404681>>565404453use your mic.
>>565404625I also do. Had a good game with Doorman where i bought it, barely paid for itself but the stats are really good on him and its green investment. I think its actually buyable now.
>>565404773I am not a tranny, I will not use a microphone in a valve game
Now that I'm done playing Shiv, who do I play now?
>>565404831the uninstall button
>>565404808>grrr why can't my teammates read my mind. Urgh this support hero in this team based game SUCKS!!!!
>>565404831dynamo
>>565403705the icon backgrounds depends on the price of the item... cheaper are brighter and darker are more expensive
>>565404773Barely works.
>>565404706t.
>>565403951I bought the Doorman downplaying until I saw that game with him in DLNS the other week, I've played him a bit since then and his damage is pretty good and all you're doing is hitting bells and shooting them a bit. You're also buying vortex web on him most of the time so you have an easy way to pop indomitable before ulting someone if you have to, and you can pick up silence wave as well.
Okay Mr. Fucking 'I know balance' /dlg/.How would (You) balance Dynamo?HARDMODE: you cannot remove/replace abilities
>>565405019graves players look like this
>>565405070remove charges from his 1, remove refresher from the game, nerf the range of his 4 by 40%
>>565405070>limit stomp range so it's only close range>teleport scales in cooldown based on how many people you teleport outOR>teleport will grab up to 2 people, and prioritize low health teammates. Teleport will also heal and keep debuff removal at T2>heal is fine>keep ult the same
>>565404773No one cares. You can tell them you have an escape door set up, you can tell them you'll be placing a door and where you'll be placing it, you can tell them you've just placed a door and spam ping it in game and they'll refuse to take it.
They still haven't removed edgeboosting?
>>565405070Gun? 0 damageHealth per boon? 0Starting HP? 1Movement speed? 0.1Sprint speed? Can't.First ability? 10 minute cooldown, heals enemy team.Second ability? Kills him and anyone he takes with him.Third ability? Reduces allied firerate, increases enemy firerate, map wide, by 100%.Ultimate? No change thats fine.
Have yall seen JRE talking about Deadlock? Imagine the first official tournament and we got Joe Rogaine as our caster.
victorbros what are we thinkingthese changes further suggest the best way to play victor right now might be ult maxxing
why did shiv's mobility need to be nerfed and yet celeste was buffed in the same patch
>>565405019celeste players look like this
>>565405070Make his stomp garbage. He's an ult bot like Enigma. He should be garbage at everything except ult.
Celeste players are only good at pressing 4
>>565405336hehe.... well because uh...
>>565405336No fun allowed, plus streamer faggots were crying
>>565405336It'll get buffed by 10% again next patch, then nerfed by 10% after that one, and then the following patch buffed by 10%, after which they'll
>>565402754been abusing it now that I know how to do it
Frick, I just woke up from a 12h after work nap. I'm reading patch notes and getting hyped to play some deadcock. Today is a banking holiday so we can GAME.Gotta get up from bed and eat something first though, I'm starving.Funny how yesterday (or rather two days ago now lol) I was trying to go back to playing Mo & Aids. With the new barrier item it might end up being slightly more difficult... Or I can build it myself and not get CCed while casting it!
>Indomitable. Upgrades from Reactive Barrier. Causes the next Stun, Chain, Immobilize, Sleep, or Silence from players to be automatically removed. Cool more indirect Lash nerfs not only do you get cucked by counterspell but now you'll get cucked by this.
>>565405621Buy silence wave to trigger it before combo and to be a generally more cancerous hero.
>Your retarded teammates now finally have a fool-proof anti-lash item and will no longer get 5 man lashed into enemy spawn every time they try to push base because they were too retarded to buy/use counterspellThank you Yoshi
>>565405970This is what I was most happy about.
>>565405970>>565406057
>>565405336they once again made it worse but kept the slower stamina cooldown they introduced to justify making it better, meaning shiv's just worse now then he was a few months ago
Everyone is saying silence wave for doorman but is focus lens also a good alternative? You could use it to do some big bell damage.
why are these late game hyper carries like seven, geist, infernus, wraith also not even bad in lane
>>565406234kek these fucking retarded nigger devs
why DOES every time i get the dynamo on my team game its some nigger retarded foid or some shit who wastes ult in the worst possible way
Why is every player with a microphone passive aggressive and whiny
>celeste buffsgonna rape so many clueless gamer dads with my stinky girl neet wiener this weekend :3
>>565346739FPBP
>>565405530What causes it? The only thing I know is I was on a staircase when it happened, but the fight was a clusterfuck.
>>565406364Post it :3c
>>565406272To cater to retards and streamers. No way is a carry allowed to be bad early on.
>>565405970the retards who weren't buying counterspell are gonna be the retards who don't get indom too
>>565406364hot
>>565406270Focusing lense is just too expensive for its cost and fucked by any dispel effect of which there are a million, silence wave hits multiple enemies so you're helping your team a lot more with it.
>>565406270One is tier 3, one is tier 4.
>>565406272because there arent role not really so they cant be pidgeon holed but also there kind of is roles so umm yeah
I uninstalled the game a few weeks ago because every new patch has made the game worse since the 03/06 one, and I see this latest one is no better.
Billy bros? Do we exist?
>>565406627Don't forget you're here forever
>>565406272Because yoshi wants to feel smart and break away from traditional ASSFAGGOTS roles but also not really.>>565406627And yet you are still here, mazed lil rat.
why the FUCK did they nerf vyper so hard?what is wrong with these devs?
>>565406771Because she was broken but a lot of people were too stupid to play her.
This was such a tame patch, you retards are reacting like women
>>565406706>>565406732I'm on the outside looking at a caged enclosure tapping the glass. I'll continue not to touch this game until Dynamo is nerfed.
>>565406810the only thing broken was being able to hit people with AP rounds through petrify which was obviously a bug
>>565406771I dont know something might have been wrong with the carry that could delete your health bar at 10 minutes.
>>565406816This patch sucks Haze ult still sucks, simple as.
>>565406850He was nerfed tho
>>565406364jannies, do your job
>>565406689Anyone that plays billy is a genuine masochist and psychopath>Put everything on the line for the massive reward/risk of getting 50 temp hp or imploding instantly>All while knowing that parry scripts are as rampant as they are right now>Also hard countered by a 800 souls item
>>565406989I know where you live, Yoshi.
This game is not gonna be "out" until 2028. What the fuck are these lazy devs doing? I wish I could work at Valve and get paid to do nothing.
>>565406902I complained about it here multiple times, and on the forums, and got the Vyper ass licking brigade telling me it was intended and really needed and actually didn't matter anyway who buys AP? Waste of 6.4k.She was shitting out a ton of damage, her damage has been nerfed.
>new items come out>vyper can shoot through petrify>clearly a bug, removed>bring it back>remove it againsomeone explain the thought process here
>>565406850All I see is one poster replying to another.
>>565407228they role dice to decide on changes every patch
>ctrl + f "graves" = 0Fuck you too yoshi I'm gonna run trophy collector in every game to see if it works now
>kelvin, dynamo, and ivy raping every lobby>buff paige to be as strong as them rather than just nerfing the overtuned supports>leave rem in the dustWhat's the endgame here
how much value do you realistically get out of indomitable activating with silences?feels like you're just asking to lose your t4 item out of ricochet silencer or silence wave, it eats one single mina bat before it lets every other silence and damage youit also doesn't stop apollo's ultimate at all, not the silence not the slow not the damage
>>565407228The game has zero vision or passion behind it.
>>565407312It does.I don't know how early it should be gotten, but it will pay for itself and if movespeed and ability range is good then it works out.
>gaben forces the majority of valve to start giving cs2 updates>deadlock team is now understaffed and this is the patch they rushed outyou cannot convince me otherwise
>>565407336>paige is one of the worst supports>they give her 1 stamina but make her dash worse>they reduce the cooldown on two abilities by.... 2 seconds, and 1 second>AIEEEEEEE HELP ME NIGGERMAN SHE'S DYNAMO TIER NOW!seekergawd
>use drifter ult while swapping characters>game crashes>go to free camera and drifter ults>game crashes
>>565406771Probably because having a targetted apollo ult as a basic spell that instagibs anyone in lane ontop of her damage and mobility was not very healthy for the game as indicated by being the highest WR hero in the patch, even higher than infernus.Just my 2 cents.
>>565407336Rem pillows leave a lingering bed of feathers after they land which applies a dot after you stand on it for 1 niggerillion damage.T3 upgrade makes the feathers 5x the size of the pillow impact crater.
>>565407346it honestly feels like they just forgot that time-slow is an effect that exists. The item kind of seems not worth it since if you need anti-CC badly enough to justify buying a t4 specifically for it, then you would just buy unstoppable.
>>565407160This has to be the one of the worst valve games ever. The gameplay is like, great, but the fucking balance is absolute dog shit"Oooh, it's balanced for top rank"No it fucking isn't. It's not balanced at all. Even if it was, that's retarded design philosophy. It doesn't work.
>>565407447>one of the worst supports>relative to rem who has one of the worst winrates in the game, and kelvin/dynamo/ivy which have some of the bestJust means Paige was the closest thing to a balanced support we had and now she's stronger while Rem continues to be trash>>565407557If only all these dumb Rem players realized how strong pillow Rem was (famously, nobody builds pillow Rem), he would be used in pro play ever and not have a 40% winrate in E6
>>565407639I honestly think Rem is one of the better supports in the game. It's just hordes of retards running gun Rem / Pillow Nuke Rem and spending all their time stealing their teams sinners.
im literally only buying trophy collector for the ability range
>>565407812I might just be shit on him but I feel a lot lower impact doing rem 'properly' than playing another support.But that could also be because Kelvin and Dynamo are overpowered.
>how do we make miku turrets not free gold bags for the enemy team>uhhhh make them worth less goldBRILLIANT
>>565407983yoshi does it again
Rem is fucking broken, the only reason his stats are as bad as they are is because most retards see funny gun rem tiktoks and then do retarded shit like pic related.I cannot remember the last time I've seen a normal Rem build, it's always the most abhorrent satanic shit ever of gun rem or weird shit like full melee rem.
>>565407812You think wrong. His winrate is even worse in Eternus than it is in low ranks. He's only any good in ultra coordinated pro play which is like 0.01% of the playerbase, and even then, Kelvin/Ivy/Dynamo are all picked more than him.
>>565407812buddy if you don't grab our sinners within 3 minutes i am going to slap my helpers on it.
>>565408034>>565408034
>>565408182 >page 5
Why does it feel like valve is intentionally doing as much possible to fuck with LashHis 1 counts as a snare so it triggers reactive barrier (and is also so heavily telegraphed that manual barriers like paige's or guardian can be activated with time to spare)His 2 requires having a target in the right trajectory so enemy/ally placement can make it useless when you need itHis 3 feels like it just doesn't hit as wide of an angle as it shouldHis 4 is blocked by a 3200 item extremely easily because the audio cue when you start pulling in enemies starts BEFORE you start pulling them in, and even then its pretty easy to wait till the ult timer is done. and now its automatically blocked by a 6400 item.
>>565407913It just takes 5 stacks and 10 minutes to pay off half its cost and be sold for a full refund.
>>565408468he's just too honest for his own good
>>565408115>I never see him played with the normal build>But he's super broken, I just know itok
>>565408372ain't nobody getting pussy past page 3
>start playing street brawl>finally actually having fun with the game againWas that really all it took?
>>565406414lash can do it too, and is bugged as well. I feel like you have to press 2/3 and be ontop directly (the same pos). I've been doing it unknowingly but when i tried it worked multiple times.
>>565407913Just buy culsac lmao. Same price, same ability range. You don't have to play the gay stacking game.
So is trophy collector good on doorman now?
what a boring nigger game
>wonder why anons are talking about trophy collector>it's 1600 nowHUH.......
>>565407228first time?
>>565405284he alright, feels the same as before to be desu. order unchanged to me2 2 1 1 3 1 4 4 4 2 or smthing like that
ngl going back to rivals and having teammates that actually understand how to play the objective (even if its much simpler) is a burst of fresh air
>>565409003>gives you absolute shit items for your hero now, literally unuseable
Holy shit Valve, balance your retarded game, I'm fucking sick and tired of one sided matches because the enemy is free to take whatever they fucking want. There is zero punishment, for going straight to doubles and just taking them.
>>565413649thats.........literally every multiplayer game?
>>565413649Um, sweetie? Your guardian and walker??
patch feels good. infernus/venator nerfs are good. victor still unplayable but thats ok. new item is shit, 6.4k countered by 3.2k silence wave never buy this shit
>archon gamesalright>phantom games>alright>oracle games>the most sub human niggers you have ever seen
>>565414606Nothing nearly as bad as this.>>565414740What about em? They literally do nothing to help you. There's no reason to even defend
>>565415674Is there a reason why Oracle is shittier than Archon?
>die 17 times>smurf is absolutely seething at me cause he cant carry melol
>>565355770https://voca.ro/1gm7Z67NW84S
