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Cashier Magik edition

>News
Path to Doomsday: Avengers Limited Time Mode Reveal: https://youtu.be/prgi9DELhjc?si=LNj4sCRdk5plbZjb

Blood Hunt PvE Mode Reveal: https://youtu.be/Zd8xPgLCQkw?si=R_zSZ6Cphn5d6iL7

Black Cat Character Reveal: https://youtu.be/qn7a5F9oJwo

ESU Open Day Event: https://x.com/i/status/2044445651661168813

Version 20260417 Balance Post: https://www.marvelrivals.com/balancepost/20260414/41667_1295988.html

Lower Manhattan Map Reveal: https://youtu.be/ChBE64P3Ams

Hospitality 101 Event: https://x.com/i/status/2041591841058124198

Dual Life of Peter Parker event: https://x.com/i/status/2034336534070272258

>Store
Elsa Bloodstone’s Bloody Butler skin: https://x.com/i/status/2048854700238221401

Gambit's Alluring Ace and Magik's Netherworld Noble skins: https://x.com/i/status/2046242668506702272

Black Cat's Urban Predator, Spider-Man's Peter Parker: The Photographer, and Blade's Starlit Shadow skins: https://x.com/i/status/2044098474371592652

Iron Fist’s Lin Shao: The Knockout and Jeff The Landshark’s Maid to Chomp skins: https://x.com/i/status/2041169240045097174

Cloak & Dagger's Daring Duo and Captain America's Brett Hendrick: The Star skins: https://x.com/i/status/2036118339370586501

Punisher's Marauder Marksman: https://x.com/i/status/2033996794342838398

Ultron's Odinforce Ultron skin: https://x.com/i/status/2033981697981546574

White Fox's Yoon Ji-woo: The Leader skin: https://x.com/i/status/2033966601918181456

The Thing's Fear Itself and Daredevil's Born Again Season 2 skins: https://x.com/i/status/2031407298669666551

Psylocke's Once-Captive Corsair & Captain America's Cursed Captain skins: https://x.com/i/status/2029738798007886162

>Links
Hero Hot List: https://marvelrivals.com/heroes_data/
Guides & News: https://marvelrivals.gg/
Tracker Resources: https://rivalstracker.com
Mobalytics Page: https://mobalytics.gg/marvel-rivals
FANDOM Wiki: https://marvelrivals.fandom.com/

Checkpoint: >>565272028
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threadly reminder that if you hide your name/profile, you're gay
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Psylocke’s game
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Bucky fucks
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Girls are hot topic don't even look like that anymore, they look like picrel
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Why do Phoenix players only ult when low? I NEVER see them save ult for another ult.
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if you think emma's damage is bad then you're an aimlet
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Cat wife
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Sex with Thor
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Boy oh boy where do I even begin. Galacta... honey, my pookie bear. I have loved you ever since I first heard your voice. The way you shout out objectives and announce my killstreaks. Your silky smooth hair, and that gorgeous helmet of yours. I would do anything for you. I wish it were possible to play Rivals on mobile so I’d never have to go anywhere without hearing your voice. You were a literally who before the game, but you never gave up hope. You are even amazing outside of matches, you're a great character and mascot, sometimes I even call you my waifu. I forvever dread and weep, thinking of the day your game will one day EoS. I would sacrifice my own life it were the only thing that could put a smile on your beautiful face. You have given me so much joy, and heartbreak over the months. Every time I lose, my heart shatters into a million pieces, imagining you’re disappointment. But every win brings a tear to my right eye, because I get to hear your cheers. Not only have you changed Rivals and the Marvel Universe forever, but you've eternally changed my world. And now you're getting less popular, but you’re still the goat, my goat. I love you pookie bear, my glorious queen, Galactica.
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>>565393387
oh my...
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Soon
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>>565394015
>cl*nkersexual
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I think we should actually just fucking murder ritualposters
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>No Magik on Blood Hunt
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>>565379038
Why did he have to be the designated Spidey jobber?
He could be so much more...
Rivals is his last hope to show that he can be a real threat by making him a vanguard.

>Melee primary (Slowest primary in the game but packs damage, 3rd punch grounds for 1 sec)
>Super Jump on a 12s cooldown
>Ability 1 is a long ranged CC beam that grounds hit targets (kinda like Bucky)
>Ability 2 is a "Get-off-me" explosion that gives him bonus shield then damages/pushes-away closed-ranged targets (like he does in the PS4 game)
>Ult is a giga wide wind-up "concussing beam" that grounds hit targets and shake their screens for a second like he does in the PS2 Movie game.

and for the teamup, idk. He gives storm a similar "get-of-me" ability?

He'd fit so nicely
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>>565393356
i need to lick whipped cream off their asses
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>>565394094
Captain Marvel will get in after Devil Dinosaur, Cyclops, Beast, Bishop, Kingpin, Bullseye, Juggernaut, Jubilee, Typhoid Mary, Cosmo the Space Dog, Aunt May, Howard the Duck, Misty Knight, Soft Serve and Mary Jane's loser boyfriend Paul
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>>565394205
>that pic
hey!
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When are we removing one of Groot's walls?
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>>565394552
Bodied that freak
>>565394421
I want him to happen but I’m afraid they’ll just put in Electro and conclude that he’s close enough
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Sex with this weird teddy bear thing.
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lol
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>>565396079
Elboygian on suicide watch
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>>565396079
ohnononono elbrowngianbros!?
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>>565395796
This but only when he's drawn with a fat ass and slightly feminine facial features
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>>565396349
Lame.
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>>565395193
I know you're probably right but huffing that copeium by telling myself that Electro would most likely be a duelist and his overlap with Storm/Torch would be too much to add him before Shocker.

Imo, the main problem with Shocker is that he's not niche enough to be a "wtf" pick like WhiteFox but not nearly popular as characters other Spidey villains like Goblin, Sandman, Octopus or even carnage.
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I want black electro
I liked him :/
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>>565396773
He could maybe be a skin? Maybe even get dubstep sound effect lol
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>>565396539
>his overlap with Storm/Torch would be too much to add him before Shocker
I imagine that he’d be focused around chain lightning and hitting multiple targets, so if anything he’d overlap with MK. Ironically enough I think Shocker has more potential to be unique than Electro. Maybe a knockback/displacement-focused tank that could deafen enemies.
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Jesus Christ
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Just saw the new Avengers lobby thing you can buy
Black Widow is never getting reworked lol
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>>565396995
>Maybe a knockback/displacement-focused tank that could deafen enemies.
I'm glad you're on the same wave as me.
I'm assuming you're a different anon, if so, what do you think of my kit for him? >>565394421
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we need another vanguard-lite like reed
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will there be any more streams so i can do the 15 min watch time mission that is up currently?
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>>565397641
wait was this during the mutant/Morloch massacre?
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Any Marvel lore knowers in here? I watched Days of Future Past earlier today and was wondering if Trask Industries was an alternate timeline version of Stark Industries and thus Bolivar Trask being like Tony Stark's AU dad
The name is obviously an anagram of Stark and the sentinels he built looked eerily similar to autonomous Iron Man suits, or am I just overthinking things?
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>>565397775
yes
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>>565397961
no, future past is just pseudo time travel
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>>565397961
>Trask Industries was an alternate timeline version of Stark Industries and thus Bolivar Trask being like Tony Stark's AU dad
No he's the dude who created the Sentinels
>The name is obviously an anagram of Stark and the sentinels he built looked eerily similar to autonomous Iron Man suits, or am I just overthinking things?
the latter
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Why are sentinels just big purple men?
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>blue screen blockers
>IEM’s
>gaming compression sleeve
It is NOT that serious
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>>565398503
>>565398314
Ok thanks for clearing that up
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>>565398912
>>565397961
What you suggested is way cooler and better if it means anything. Hell, I’m actually kind of bummed it isn’t the case now.
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why is he like this?
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>>565398815
Cause it looks badass
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>>565398815
why not?
Sentinels are the next step in human evolution
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>>565397161
You’re noise pollution sounds, particle effects, and destructible environments bro
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>>565399446
Wouldn't mind one of those being playable we need more BIG vanguards
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What do?
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AVENGERTH
ATHEMBLE
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>>565397383
Yeah I’m NTA.
>Primary
I like the idea of a slow but high damage melee primary, it would probably feel a lot better to use than the typical quick punches that most brawlers have. I don’t think the grounding effect would be too useful, though, since most fliers would be a pain in the ass to melee, especially if your only vertical mobility is on a 12-second cooldown. Maybe Earthbound would be better as an anti-movement tool, but I’m sure that would be kind of cancer to play against.
>Ability One
Simple but would be rather weak if it was just grounding. Making it deafen as well would give it a lot more useful.
>Ability Two
I like this one, no big suggestions beyond adding an effect where enemies take a chunk of damage if they hit a wall after being pushed.
>Ult
Screen shake would be really underwhelming imo, deafen would be better. Give it super knockback as well, and the same damage on contact as ability two.

Overall pretty cool, though it’d be funny to get a character that fucks over flyers even more than they already are.
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>queue time five minutes and counting on a weeknight
Morbid.
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I take it back. Bring me back to full poke meta and put dive in the ground again. The fucking support players in this game cannot even begin to not loose their minds the second someone looks at the backline.
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>>565400128
stfu chingyong
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Elsa is very pretty but not in that maid skin
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>>565400443
The blonde version makes her look like a young Uma Thurman
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I'd buy the background if it wasn't 16 fucking dollars
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>>565400443
there's really no point in wearing anything other than young blood. best gooner skin IMO
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>>565401045
I love her default but they fucked up because none of her paid skins have her actual fucking hair color
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If you wanna be a clown and play moonknight then you'll be treated like one.
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>>565401516
The goon haunts you
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>>565399931
Thank you for taking the time to read it!
>Maybe Earthbound would be better as an anti-movement tool
You're right, but to be fair, if you're a high mobility duelist that manages to still get hit by a slow 3rd hit, I'd say that's mostly likely the end result of mismanaged cooldowns on the duelist's side.
>Simple but would be rather weak if it was just grounding. Making it deafen as well would give it a lot more useful.
I really like your idea of deafening, I first thought of giving it the "concussed/shaky" status but I felt like it'd be a little too much visual cluster for a basic ability. So your idea is a good alternative to that.
>I like this one, no big suggestions beyond adding an effect where enemies take a chunk of damage if they hit a wall after being pushed.
That's also a good idea, it would also incentivize the player to position himself instead of just spamming it.
>Give it super knockback as well, and the same damage on contact as ability two.
I agree, I just really love the visual aspect of that attack from the PS2 game and I'd bet it'd be really satisfying to land.
https://youtu.be/WAuBcgoZXDY?si=ogGqSp-DhT8A7VMK&t=19

Thanks for your feedback
if you have a Shocker-related sketch request, feel free to reply to my post with a screenshot of your (you)
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>>565401516
Did MK shove an Ankh up your ass or something?
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>>565401934
H-Hot...
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>>565401516
I fight for the moon for I am the fist of Khonshu.
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>>565401934
More so saying if you wanna be a spam shitter you'll be treated like one.
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https://files.catbox.moe/gjydt6.mp4
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>>565402921
I'm so used to Rivals thicc Squirrel Girl that this really threw me off
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was fun while it lasted but I'm ready for my gray carpet guangguang
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>>565402598
I wish she wasn’t tied to cloak
It killed all her art potential
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>>565401793
>Thank you for taking the time to read it!
No problem anon, I just think it’s fun to read/write kits. I actually wrote up one myself about three threads ago for Yondu, >>565213516.
>Shocker-related sketch request
Draw him fighting alongside Baron Zemo!
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Did this update seriously just fuck with my Hulk controls? I logged in to try the new Avengers mode, my abilities are double mapped and I cant change them
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>>565403408
She's for people into that fetish, that is her only appeal. If you like fat assed blonde women, you have Sue.
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>>565403702
That happened to me once too for Hulk. No idea why.
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Boy. That Captain America Emote really missed the mark. Bro sounds zesty as fuck. Why is it so high pitched and jokey? It's a battle cry ffs.

Glad I don't play him, I'd be disappointed.
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>>565403716
>sees white character and black character
>immediately thinks fetish
Hello roonpaljeempsh
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>>565403762
How did you fix it?
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>>565404004
Faggot she was literally created for that reason, go check the comic book nerd history, before Cloak got toned down from needing a white woman to calm down to what he is today.
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>tfw scott gets a permanent phoenix force team-up with jean
don't do it, guangguang! think of the children that play qp!
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>>565404203
>NO SHE WAS LITERALLY CREATED TO BE THE OBJECT OF MY FETISH
saar, please
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>>565404182
Just had to reassign. Might've reset the game too.
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>>565403408
Nah. Every new female just so happened to expose their body more than her, so she took a backseat.
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>>565404205
There's no way permanent teamups are still a thing besides maybe Groot/Rocket
They got rid of the Fantastic 4 Teamup, everything is on the table after that
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>>565404623
wolverine's fastball says hi
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>>565404623
As much as I want permanent teamups to be a thing, I’m pretty sure that all activated teamups are bound to the same key, so any character with a permanent teamup wouldn’t be able to have any others
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>win four games
>lose one
>bot match
Stupid ass algorithm
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>>565403408
same. tandy is really cute in this game.
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This new game mode sucks
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>playing ranked
>first fight we're getting rolled, neither of our tanks even at point
>die
>take a side route back to point instead of going main
>find our Thor doing that rainbow throne emote while our Venom and the enemy Venom are both lap dancing for him
>all three stay there until 50% capture to actually begin playing the video game
tank players are not real
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>>565405627
lol
You should try playing Jeff in 18vs18
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holy fuck this looks so bad
reeks of last minute hack job
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what's with the inclination of everyone saying someone's bad if they do bad?
its not like they ever said they're good
t. happens to me all the time
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>>565406112
Mods will fix it
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>>565406112
i hate HR hags so much
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>>565406112
>lazy skin paint
meanwhile peni
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>>565403667
alright on it, just stick around the threads, I dont draw fast
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>>565406593
the buttons dont even cover her eyes from all angles
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You're all gay for not voting for Psylocke.
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>>565406112
It absolutely is. That's not clothing. They just enhanced the shadow over her monster slaying ass.
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>>565406112
Interesting that they do this the same patch they allow you to remove Emma's cape. They should just stop doing skirts entirely and stick to leotards if it allows them to avoid the Disney censorship.
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>coomerfags getting pissy that you can’t see Elsa Bloodstone’s fully-modeled cameltoe in a T-rated game
there’s more to life than jacking off, you know
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>>565406425
why is he a pterodactyl
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>>565406912
sorry that i want magneto in a dress...
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>>565403154
I love both versions
>>565403408
>>565404454
Couldn’t agree more
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>>565407290
I want him in a thong
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>>565406112
>>565406942
>>565406946
but how will this affect the swimsuits
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>>565407001
No there is not when you look at the comic sales.
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2 more weeks until Tankies get their new shiny toy to play with since Tankpool.
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>>565408006
Black chick unrelated
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>>565408006
Wasn’t that a bitch a different race in the comics
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>>565408369
She was white in the comics. She also had no personality in the comics so it's probably best to treat the show version of her as a completely new character with the same name.
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>The optimization mods I've installed don't render Elsa's black shorts at all and make it so she has a bare ass and pussy
Lmao
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>>565408559
>pussy
This screenshot only shows that she has a barbie doll body beneath the costume.
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I kinda hope they do add Devil Dinosaur to the game. It'll give me the kick I need to uninstall for a while. This stupid game has monopolized my life and free time.
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the "he said no pickles" typa couple
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I'm sorry for wearing that mj plushie in time square, black cat egirl.
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>>565408006
Role nobody wants to play?
Give 'em some literal who deislop, that'll help their numbers!
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>playing tank
>need heals
>go to the nearest healer
>they ignore me
>make sure I'm standing still
>they ignore me
>move in closer so I'm standing directly next to them
>they ignore me
>STAND DIRECTLY IN FRONT OF THEM BLOCKING THEIR VIEW
>they ignore me, in fact they move to the side
>have to ping NEED HEALING a thousand times before they start healing me
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I’m going to instalock support for a while and never heal tanks, tired of these whiny cucks acting like they deserve shit
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>>565410705
You were probably being annoying as fuck earlier so they decided to stop healing you.
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>>565410705
Let me tell you as a support player, if you spam need healing after you're dead, especially if you died with both healers hitting you already, you're not getting healed again for the rest of the game.
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>>565411168
>>565411460
>healsluts being catty and losing because of it
Based retards.
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>fill
>lose
>fill
>lose

am i the only one noticing the pattern
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>>565410216
Cringe
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>>565410705
>trying to get DPS to heal you
Health packs are the main healing source in this game anon.
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>>565411605
Sounds like you were a bitch and no one wanted to play with you
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loki's been a bad, bad girl...
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>>565411994
>healer refuses to heal, their one job
>blames literally everyone else
You forget your healplug lube this morning?
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>>565412035
guh
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Gooning to Venom
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>>565412231
>>565411605
keep provoking them, I need them to focus all their heals on me and you're feeding anyway
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>>565403408
Sue is a straight woman who would NEVER do this.
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>>565404203
i've never read their comics, can you prove your claim ranjesh?
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A girl at my job tricked me into thinking she was interested in me but made sure to tell me weeks later she wasn't interested in someone ugly like me, heroes for this feel so I can OD on copium?
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>me waiting for my Mistress to unlock me
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invis and cnd are unlocked and my teammate goes mantis, gets destroyed, goes white fox, gets destroyed, goes rocket, gets destroyed and guess what does 30 seconds before the match ends? he goes his champion invis, and then swaps to his champion cnd

why are people like this? what kind of autism is this shit? Bro this shit is COMP
its not quickplay
I should haev just stopped tanking at that point
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>>565412403
Gooning to Venom's cute shota son...
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>>565406112
ugh, they could've at least detailed those shorts
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>>565412891
hulk
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>>565412958
he was trying to learn some new characters but got in over his head
or you were flaming him and he was avoiding his good characters to spite you
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>tfw not a single item rated over 7000 doing nightmare 160 for PVE for hours
Piece of shit gacha system got me addicted and I want to place on the leaderboard with an OP build
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>>565413589
>nightmare 160
are you retarded ? do nm100 and farm whatever you need in 3-4min
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Third game in a row where I have a dude who KNOWS INVIS REALLY WELL AND HE LOCKS IN JEFF
THIS IS CELESTIAL FUCKING ONE
CELESTIAL ONE AND PEOPLE LOCK IN FUCKING JEFF FOR NO REASON
I LITERALLY FILLED SO ONE OF MY TEAMMATES WOULDNT PICK JEFF AND MY LORD INVIS GOES JKEFF

WHAT THE FUCK
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>>565403408
god i love when girls admire other girls' asses
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>me when niggermains
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>>565414368
I’m locking Jeff because I’m not trying to sweat sorry little bro
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>>565413125
Kino like this will forever elude us…
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>catch sue just DPSing while waiting to spawn instead of healing
why bother?
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>tankfags endlessly complain about CC
>dpsnigs endlessly complain about heals
>supporttroons endlessly complain about dive
Who’s the most justified
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>>565410216
>A washed up one eye'd FREAK who pisses kool-aid out of his glasses and dates a tulpa
This is what X-men fanboys keep begging for btw
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>eomm isnt real
>here comes your designated loss streak
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4 losses in a row
mvp twice
every single time its because supports literally do not want to play invis or cnd


i actually cnanot believe im on a loss streak because people dont want to play support
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>>565415820
Then play support
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>>565415414
tankfags because you're lucky to get more than one
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>white fox niggers think they're good because they can aim at the ground
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>>565415897
I do it and my teammates are negative, like every single time I got a dude who is 5 finals on starlord. Like I just lose because these guys are either spiteful that they have to play the designated broken healers that ev eryone else is playing, or they're just really bad at dps or tank.
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save me, Jen and Carol!
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>>565415414
tankfags because they volunteer to play NetEase's most hated role so the rest of us don't have to.
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>>565416281
how can they differentiate she hulk form hulk and rogue
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This is the last legendary she gets. No one is going to buy it. I barely see Elsa in my games or shes banned
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is thor useless in bloodhunt?
I can't find a single good build
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>>565416560
I redeemed it
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>>565415414
None of them. The ones who are justified are those who endlessly complain about the lack of team-up merchant characters.
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>>565416487
if you really care, search the archives for answers. i don't feel like having this bad faith conversation for the thousandth time. suffice to say She-Hulk would not be as acrobatic as Rogue or have transformation mechanics like Hulk. i'd copy what Cosmic Invasion did and make her a pro wrestler. if Rogue is a beatdown Tekken character then She-Hulk should be sorta like King from Tekken.
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>>565416487
They won’t (they aren’t happening)
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>>565416560
censored shit
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This is literally you fags
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Marvel Tokon showcase about to happen on the EVO stream if anyone cares
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>>565417194
I got Psy for 300 units though?
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>>565417297
lemme know if they start showing off the next team reveal trailer!
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>>565417306
>strawman
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Why do healers REFUSE to counter swap in this game?
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>>565412403
and more
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I think i'm stronk enough to carry N160 but the game won't let me queue that level
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Agent-Spider (Spider-Man) confirmed for Invincible VS if anyone cares! hopefully they'll get Josh Keaton to voice him like they did in the show.
https://twitter.com/i/status/2049981526402810016
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>>565417748
What the fuck is your build
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>>565417194
I like the elsa skin and was tempted to get it until I remembered i would still have to hear her aggressively british voice
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>>565417780
I'll play the game and get the dlc when it goes on sale.
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>>565417683
My lust for Thor, like Venom, grows by the day.
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are you winning, son?
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>>565411641
>instalock goona snow
>win every game with MVP
it's that simple
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New mode is garbage
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>>565417297
>sonic fox vs go1
nice
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>>565416560
looks worse than her whore skin
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>>565417842
glider moonknight, but the actual build doesn't matter that much. Every moon knight is the same
It's the gear that makes difference
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I think after tonights games, I've just come to conclusion that it really is support players who control who wins and who loses.
Like if you have a guy who refuses to counter swap, argues with their dps and tank, and bogs down the team because they're getting hardfiltered by characters who are obviously making their game harder then you just lose.

I guess I'm just tired of the community not maturing beyond this type of game sense. Even despite league of legends being full of actual fucking trogledytes, you still get players who have some common sense in lower ranks. I just dont understand marvel rivals players and their insistance to just lose without ever trying to play differently.
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>>565419203
it has always been a game of which set of supports are less retarded between each team
since the beginning
it has not deviated from this once across 7 seasons, it has only gotten worse the more overtuned supports have become
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>>565417446
If they’re gonna show something it’ll happen now. If not today then during the final day.
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>>565412231
>what? There are consequences for being a massive cunt to everyone around me??? This is clearly someone else's fault.
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>>565419702
>>565417446
jwong said there's an announcement on sunday
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>>565419702
>>565419757
>have to wait 3 more days
fug. it better be good.
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>>565419757
Please don’t let it be Deadpool
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>>565419203
The problem is most shitters gravitate towards strategist and underperform.
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>>565420672
This is such a stupid take born of animosity around here. Shitters and new players play dps, they always have in every game. Retards like to see funny big number.
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>>565419203
>I just dont understand marvel rivals players and their insistance to just lose without ever trying to play differently
You should’ve figured what kind of players this game would attract when they retroactively added in the PS4 players. They casted a wide net for whales and low iq consoomer gooners.
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>>565418480
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>>565415414
The game factually has more CC than any other hero shooter. Almost every single hero in the game has one or more CC. So CC is extremely high.
The game factually has the highest healing output with the lowest cooldowns (none), with no global antiheal and the antiheal in the game is pathetic. So the healing is extremely high.
Support heroes have never been stronger in any hero shooter with so many tools, self heal, cc, mobility and more. Barely any hero even functions as dive in this game and most of them are distractions at best. So the support players are wrong.
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>>565420882
>Shitters and new players play dps, they always have in every game
lmfao no, they play shit like Rocket and Mercy, retard.
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>>565421136
Good post.
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>2 more weeks of this shit season
>we're probably getting an even worse season next
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What should my upgrade path be as tankpool? I always upgrade his bubble first so we have shields.
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>>565419203
How are you even talking in chat I thought you got chat banned for a week?
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>>565421503
>Next season is getting a new tank
>It's another fucking melee tank who will be useless as they're hit with CC hell and shit
I can't remember the last time we got a good tank besides Tankpool. Don't say Emma as she shutdown the entire tank roster leaving her only counter being another Emma or Magneto due to his range.
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>loki pvp is shit
>cap avengers assemble emote is shit
>avengers lobby screen is overpriced shit
>black widow is still shit
seems like all of the resources this season went to blood hunt and black cat's retarded shop
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>>565421520
>What should my upgrade path be as tankpool?
Deadpool in your area, then guns, then shield. The rest doesn't matter.
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>I can't land Magneto ults anymore
Fuck my life
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>>565421851
Blood Hunt wasn't even supposed to come out now, it came out earlier than planned because the chinks slaved away in the mines.
But it's funny the Loki mode got more fanfare, but even the shitty Blood Hunt mode ended up being better.
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>>565421991
I can land it
The game deciding to give me a kill or not is the true 50/50
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I finally made it to Diamond 2.... it took me weeks...but I did it...
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>>565422292
Grats anon
I still need 5 comp games to get black cats skin
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>that dumb chink will show up next dev vision to say he fixed the cc issue in the game with tenacity
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>>565422381
God I love WF.
https://x.com/LumiNyu_Art/status/2049607602489655392
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>>565421503
this game's fucking cooked.

>>565421797
>I can't remember the last time we got a good tank besides Tankpool. Don't say the last good tank before Tankpool, she doesn't count because I'm a homosexual and hate women.
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>>565421446
Great post
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>still can't instantly leave a match when is over
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>>565420882
Are you crazy? strategist mains are like the most boosted niggas in this game.
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>>565412850
>>565404454
>>565404004
You guys know they originally got their powers from spiked heroin right? And they're dependent on each other basically forcing them to be a couple. It's really not subtle.
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>>565420882
there's bad players in every role but support players have the lowest bottom performers on average and their characters are the easiest to play/overtuned the most
namor is a pathetically easy dps hero to play but he still takes infinitely more skill than invis, rocket and c&d which is just an unbelievable thing for me to even type out, but it's true
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>>565421520
First upgrade depends whether the map allows a cheese-y gun ult support kill or not. If not, I like DPIYA against most ranged comps first. Then guns, since more damage = faster upgrades and higher likelihood of getting finals. My fourth upgrade tends to be dash, the extra mobility skyrocket your own personal survivability by a lot, and it lets you upgrade your ult much faster. The last three I don’t really care for
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Will triple support ever be nerfed? It's still the strongest team comp in the game.
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>trans colors again
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>>565425767
Zhiyong waved composition winrate around and did his global ult nerf, so he thinks he fixed it.

>>565425792
Take your meds. Every color combination under the sun is some LBTBBQ flag, so you're just as retarded as them when they keep going
>look, we're represented
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So Elsa's ass was censored at the last minute, right? The shorts look painted on, I wonder why they decided to change it now since they released skins with visible panties before.
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>>565403716
>>565424145
Cloak in current comics would have cut off the entirety of his lower torso to have a Rivals synergy so I guess this is some ableism thing.
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>>565425792
Retards that think pink/blue is trans are actually mind broken
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>>565419203
I've been saying this since Season 1. You're not going to carry a match unless you have supports capable of keeping you alive. And that revelation ruined the game for me.
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Soon.
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>>565419729
>healsissy needs to invent his own fanfics in order to rationalize why he can't play the game and loses
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>>565426287
yup, troons at disney forced them. no more panties in rivals.
can't wait to see the new disney approved summer skins.
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>Had so many losses yesterday and today that I went from GM3 to almost Plat 1
Should I just do the EOMM trick where if I lose 2 games in a row, I stop playing for 24 hours to reset EOMM? Last game I just had to deal with 2 smurf accounts.
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>>565427364
>Disney is gonna kill their cash cow that revived Marvel
I'm completely down for them doing that, anything that has Disney lose money is a good thing.
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>>565427364
>>565428052
Why is Kevin Feige enabling this? His son would only inherit a debris at this rate.
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>>565427918
thats what i do. i just quit after one loss.
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>>565410705
You idiots can fix this and many other problems by turning on your mic
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>>565407032
They haven't explained yet but they call him "Professor S" so I'm like 95% sure they're in an alternate universe where Sauron leads the X-men
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>>565428575
>Why is Kevin Feige enabling this?
He's always been a faggot.
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>>565426287
Render doesn't have them so definitely. Then again Mantis' render doesn't have vagina bones but the model does. They also don't want to give us squirrel cheeks at all but others are showing ass left and right. Inconsistent censorship. Either some characters are a nono or some niggerfaggot at Jidsney started nooticing. Or both.
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>>565429673
>turn on mic
>when most players have voice chat off so they cant even hear it
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>>565416487
make her a Brigitte support
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>>565430806
I'm not gay and retarded enough to know what that means because the only time I see Overtranny characters is in porn.
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>>565430743
Oh are you in shitter ranks? My bad
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>>565430742
>>565427918
>>565428746
It's funny to me how people are still just as delusional and subject to cognitive bias like people were a hundred years ago with shit like horoscopes. No, logging off has absolutely no impact on a matchmaking system, take it from someone that has designed and worked on many of them were players kept saying this.
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>>565430942
Brigitte is what made GOATS so even if you were under a rock if you played an online game you should have heard of her.
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>>565430957
>claims everyone has mics on
lol, you definately don't play in the higher ranks. at best you can get 1 or 2 idiots trying to boss the rest of the team around, assuming you even have voice chat enabled.
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>>565431073
Explain League of Legends where when Faker and other competitive players lose a game, they immediately log into another account to start playing.
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>>565431073
there is an actual paper that netease published on eomm which is where this comes from so this isn't out of thin air.
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>>565431076
Unless the porn mentioned it then no, I ignore everything Blizzshart related. Why would I give ANY attention to a modern game with no fanservice?
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>>565431076
>Brigitte is what made GOATS

No she didn't. Even a single google search teaches you what GOATS was and how it functioned, yet every clown that loves to namedrop GOATS never has any clue what it even was. All they know is from osmosis
>involved 3 tanks
>brig was a common pick for goats
>"it was super strong!"
and that's it. The rest is just shit they make up to fill in the blanks which they always get wrong.
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>>565431384
Rein was the most important hero for goats, not Brig.
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>>565431073
OKAY.

https://ojs.aaai.org/index.php/AAAI/article/view/28760

>However, is game fairness the only critical factor for player engagement? In most matchmaking scenes, the an- swer is no, which has been demonstrated in EOMM (Chen et al. 2017).
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Can you guys review my gameplay and show me why I'm doing horrible? I'm too much of a schizo to be able to tell if I'm doing bad so I need outside assistance.
https://tracker.gg/marvel-rivals/profile/ign/SneedemFeedem/overview?season=15
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>>565431073
>>565431540
they prio stomps over balanced matches and alternate who is being stomped, this is the basis for logging off after a loss/stomp
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>>565431258
>>565431540
>there is an actual paper
Any idea how many of these patents and presentations are made every year and how many end up being used. Hint: A lot are made, almost none of them used and then that isn't some hard fact that it's used. But I'm talking with biased people here, so this will just go through one ear and out the next.

But here's a tip. Actually document yourself every single time you do it. Every. Single. Time. You will realize it doesn't work. It's a bias where when it "doesn't work" you dismiss it, but when it does you use that to affirm your completely baseless belief.
It's like thinking you will get a heads for sure when flipping a coin after fingering your ass and whenever it "doesn't work" you try and convince yourself maybe you didn't finger your ass properly or deeply enough, then when it "works" you convince yourself the ass fingering is what did it.

There is nothing funnier than being the one that designed something and wrote the code to then have players tell me "no, this is how it works" and then ramble about how a bunch of secret systems specifically designed to fuck them over. It's like working at an insane asylum and it never gets boring.
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A friend of mine who was OOA last season and streams [I will not disclose his Twitch] went on a eight loss-streak last night into C1. I watched a few of his matches, because at a certain point you have to wonder if the person losing that many times is the problem, but after watching a few matches I can safely say that this game is just unapologetically coinflippy. The very first match he played; he was forced to fill and lost because one of his dps were a support main who went 8/11 on Moonknight. At one point he clipped a player who was so bad that they took out their Punisher shotgun and started shooting a Hela ultimate for BB damage (Keep in mind this is Eternity). He even played with Salxm who is known for being a very good Spider-Man OTP in high rank and they lost because Salxm got target-banned.

It just got me thinking how uncomfortable this game is to play, because you really dont know when you should put it down or keep mining for those diamonds.
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>>565431867
There are several papers where NetEase tested these on players so to say they aren't being used is wrong. It prioritizes player retention over fairness, this is the matchmaking they use.
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>>565432131
>Salxm got target-banned.
I saw this. You basically outed your friend with this.
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>>565432202
Every time I log off on a loss, I log into a win the next day. I think a lot of people already realized this is the case, which is pretty funny because it just proves how fundementally fucked multiplayer gaming is now.

I'm sure not every single lobby is rigged, but I tend to notice that if you're doing a rank-up; that the game will put you up against people who are down and out and need a free win so the matchmaking absolutely stacks one team with the perfect support mains, dps mains, and tank mains, and you get some shabby retard who only knows Loki or something.
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>>565432202
>>565432601
If you really want to commit to this delusional cope and not even fact check it yourself by documenting it over tens or hundreds of times, go ahead. After all, most people are slaves to cognitive bias. I'll be here laughing at the ignorant masses, i.e. you.
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>>565433072
Alright, if you're so firm in your belief that we're "delusional" then why are you so upset?
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>>565433385
hes larping, ignore it
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>>565431551
not a lot of people here could even judge you we dont have a lot of tank players over your rank
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>>565431551
>https://tracker.gg/marvel-rivals/profile/ign/SneedemFeedem/overview?season=15
>+-25 on win/loss

Interesting. I'm in the gm2 range and I get that. If i drop by soft throwing it starts hitting me with -17 and +25 to get me back and that's without counting the obvious feeder teams.

I'm calling it rigged. Make another account.
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>>565430115
I guess you know who to blame now if Carol Danvers's default appears like Brie Larson in the roster.
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Which one is better?
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>>565434772
The new one
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>>565417780
… So literally Spider-Man but lamer? Kinda gay
>>565417446
The one on the right is the one we’re getting
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>>565421079
Pretty sure people still playing on PS4 of all people are not the ones buying skins and shit.
>>565421503
Don’t forget the awful game mode we still have to look forward to.
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>>565425792
everytime this retarded bait gets at least a few nibbles
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>>565430115
>>565434427
Kek. What a tool. Caroljeet is on thin ice at this rate.
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>>565430729
>Kingpin in the back eyeing his next cock victim
That Magik skin might actually be the skimpiest thing we get. Would make sense they went so hard with that one if they knew they were going to get cracked down on after.
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>>565397641
gib marrow
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how do i get the loki gallery card from the highlights bullshit?
how do i fight kingpin in the garbage pve mode?
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>>565436983
>how do i fight kingpin in the garbage pve mode?
advance beyond Extreme difficulty into Nightmare
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>>565404205
Oh wow is she naked? What a slut!
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>>565436983
press t to sit down in the sit down area in times square. there's a 2 min timer you need to wait out.

for kingpin, play in extreme mode. you need to do 3 challenges to unlock the kingpin boss: destroy the barrier in the freeway section under a certain amount of time; when you get to the ruins place, destroy 4 red blood clots, they look like red glowing bushes; and the last challenge you need to do is destroy the red floating crystals in time when you get to the entrance of dracula's castle after the elevator section.
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>>565437661
i'm pressing t it doesnt do shit and if i manually sit down it doesnt give me the card after 2 mins. i fucking hate this game.
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>>565437840
maybe your keybind is different.
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they did the same to sue's anniversary skin
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>>565404205
the only team up she needs is with her man logan
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>>565434772
bonus damage against healthy enemies is trash. Healthy = when they are >80% HP
bonus against close-range also kind of trash. You have to stay close to the targets.

Damage output, damage bonus, crit, precision are what you want to roll for
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>>565438056
whoops >>565426287
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>>565427364
>yup, troons at disney forced them
playerbase is crashing and sexy skins were their lifeline. disney wants to kill their golden goose
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>>565438534
>>565426287
proof
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>>565426287
even redditors are furious about this. netease fucked up big time. honestly i am not gonna spend anymore money on this game. i bet they will go back and censor older skins now too.
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>>565438864
psylocke chads won
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>>565438864
and how it looked originally (allegedly)
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>>565406112
Were is the shadow for deadpool and jeff then?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2rKpDn-r6aQ
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>>565407001
Whats the point of adding females if they are not eye candy?Especially no name lame ass characters that shouldnt even be here in the first place
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>>565423124
Hey captain literacy, "boosted" and "new" are mutually exclusive.
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It's really spectacular how much worse this thread gets after East Coast hours
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my Captain!
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>overwatch tanks
>can' interact with them if they come close to you're dead
>made for the tranny that got bullied in school so he can feel better about his worthless life

>rivals tanks
>if they walk up to you you can kill them
>they are more space creators than fat lower skilled dps

Why did china nail tanks and trash fat mutilated americans don't understand how tanks should work in a pvp game?
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>>565416560
>>565418709

good that tranny needs to get gutted next give her the jhonny treatment
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>>565441495
yet you get stomped hard and cry for someone to pick shield tank everygame
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>>565441495
Neither game does them right but the idea of a class of characters that has at least double the health of everyone else, similar damage potential as everyone else, and the ability to throw everyone around the map, stun them, etc (while being resistant to these abilities themselves of course) is inherently retarded and should’ve stayed in MMOs
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>>565442048
Yeah but Rein and Thor are really fun
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https://files.catbox.moe/8753n9.mp4
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>>565441418
please make her dps so I can play my bae properly
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>>565421851
if 'resources' went into blood hunt and this is what they delivered then i have no hope for this game's future. i have not liked a single gimmick addition to this stupid game. this genre is such dogshit. just stick to making payload maps and stop wasting time and effort on pointless bullshit.
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>team gets one pick
>push in as magneto
>i die because everyone stood still
guess it's my fault for not turning around while tanking all their damage
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>>565441930
don't post pictures of yourself online
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>>565442048
mmo tanks (wow for example) deal zero dmg, maybe watch some raids or m+ runs. Tanks will always be at bottom and in pvp they just get blown up by dps.
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wait, the avengers event don't even have rewards for playing it!?
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>>565437971
I figured out what the problem was. I had the key for emotes set to 5, which is what the game prompted me to press, but I actually had to press T despite it not being assigned to anything. This fucking game...
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clobbering club is dead. no one watches fights anymore or displays their fight on the big screen.
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>>565442976
Umm if they plan on destroying the coom in the game this shit is gonna die altogether
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>>565442776
that's a good thing because i don't want to play it
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>>565441495
>>they are more space creators than fat lower skilled dps
This is wrong, tanks in Rivals are terrible at creating space and doing their jobs as tanks.
The entire point of tanks in Overwatch is to be the ones in control of the battlefield. They cannot be ignored because they are supposed to be the center of attention and take "aggro". They're there to soak damage, protect their team with skills like barriers or lifesteal buffs, have an aoe of threat where you can deter enemies away with your presence alone. They are there to have some sustain themselves so they don't need to constantly get heal pocketed.
A hero like Magneto or Hulk is a fucking joke, about as threatening as a teddybear. Meanwhile if you have a Daredevil in your face you will shit yourself regardless who you are. Or you have dps like Iron Fist or Wolverine that single handedly rapes tanks, turning them into literal jokes.

Tanks have never been worse and worse designed than in Rivals. Most of them don't even qualify as tanks while also being redundant because they lack a niche or barely any of them have shields, barriers or allied buffs.
This includes other hero shooters like Paladins, which also had proper tanks, unlike Rivals.
The only ones that claim tanks in Rivals are "well designed and how tanks should be" are dps and healer mains.
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>>565441495
DPStoid hands who have never touched a tank in either game wrote this from behind a Strange or Rein shield.
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>>565442776
Guangguang can only do so much at once with his sweatshop, give him a break
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>>565442414
nooooo. i need them to muscle mommy her out. i'll be sick if she gets relegated to Duelist.
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>>565443113
>The only ones that claim tanks in Rivals are "well designed and how tanks should be" are dps and healer mains
So the majority of the playerbase?
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Tank Players: GOATS meta was great actually people were just whiny
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>>565442976
Shit sounded cool till I heard you had to pay units to play
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dont queue in low gm right now
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>>565438865
> i bet they will go back and censor older skins now too.
That would be the real nail in the coffin. Imagine buying something like the latest Magik skin and they go back fuck with your product by covering her up. Bitches here boutta cope like no tomorrow.
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>>565443832
anyone who spends money on a chinese free to play game deserves that and worse
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we need more tank/support teamups
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>>565443832
Imagining a skin is victimizing you isn't enough anymore? You have to imagine that you're going to be victimized by a future skin too?
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surely there's a middle ground between GOATS meta and the current state of tanks
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>>565445349
Yeah put CC back in the fucking game
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>>565445576
>it's another nogames who thinks Tenacity matters for more than like 3 characters
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>>565445230
What the fuck are you talking about
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>>565445169
All the shield tanks have one, albeit emma’s is just really shit. It would’ve been better if her normal shield was changed into a wall that the team could shoot through. Maybe also change the awful diamond shape into a square
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>>565445349
Yeah it's called team-up merchant tanks.
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>>565396079
Just saw this LMAOOOO
(On that note the movie looks kinda cool honestly)
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>>565399290
>>565399446
it’s a strange look all things considered
>>565399853
tyson?
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When are we getting a character that plays like my QWEEN?
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>>565406779
I really hope that’s not true…
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>>565410683
Don’t you dare question Chinese decision making
>>565414839
I don’t get why she’s doing that or it’s significance but it’s funny can you post the rest too?
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>>565447319
what was her gameplay like? Unless you mean a character that looks as ugly as that abonimation, then I doubt it.
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>>565443361
>So the majority of the playerbase?

The point is that dumb players that main dps and healers do not want tanks to be a threat to them ever, they want them to give them shields and hold up a barrier for them and be easy to kill when on the enemy team, that's it.
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>>565445349
>surely there's a middle ground between GOATS meta and the current state of tanks
see >>565431384
GOATs was a very specific thing and lineup, not "tanks are good". It focused on enabling Reinhardt and to aggressively take points as a blob with aoe sustain healers like Lucio and Brig.
The main issue with tanks in Rivals is
>way too many dive/brawl tanks, not enough shield or barrier tanks
>tanks have too shitty or no sustain at all
>tanks have almost no team utility
>tanks get buttfucked by cc since there is so much cc in this game
>most tank design is insanely boring to play in rivals
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>>565445678
And all 3 of them are tanks, numbness. If you want tanks to matter again take that shit out of the game
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>>565443347
>wants his DBZ hero to be a retard pillow punchr

hell no plz no
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>>565449390
i'd just rather NetEase get their act together and make her a good Vanguard (something that's rare and needed) instead of ANOTHER Duelist (the last thing we need.) fuck that whole role for hogging half the roster. this game really makes me appreciate that despite all my qualms with League of Legends the "meta" and the strength of each individual role was pretty consistent. shit just fuckin' worked in a way that Marvel Rivals does not. although i fear a lot of that comes down to the fact that LoL gave every role a ton of heroes to choose from instead of playing favorites toward DPS.
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>>565438864
you can even kinda see the lines where her panties were
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>>565450340
If a vanguard is good they get nerf'd forever see:emma frost
I'd rather her be as powerful as phoenix (who they will never nerf) and gets banned 80% of the time than be a useless ult charger for supportsissies
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>>565438864
>>565426287

I dont understand panties under skirt is a no no but cheeks out in the open is okay?
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>>565451008
don't worry. they are going to go back and start censoring these outfits soon enough. it's the typical chink playbook
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>>565450798
i guess part of where our opinions differ is i don't want my favorite heroes to be top tier meta chimp characters with high ban rates. i want players to have to be good with them and earn their wins.
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>3/9 spiderGAY playing into 3 tanks trying to ego diff their spiderGOD
sums up my ranked experience
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>They didn’t give a more damage taken=more damage done passive to Hulk
Bros… does he have a chance…?
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>>565399681
i think the only times i get actually like actual seething caveman rage is when my tank holds S and tries to hide behind healers and dps the whole game, and refuses to hold the point

i think it happened to me a couple times in ow2 where you have role lock too, like my tank did not touch the cart for a full 2 minutes while the enemy pushed our shit in and i just screamed at him lol. of course without fail the player in question is always some doofy fuck who goes "huh??? what are u talking about lol" because they are legit some stunted manbaby without object permanence or basic understanding of causality and they legit think they are in a spectator view instead of a meaningful game piece on the map
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>>565451008
Almost like it's not some secret sinister agenda and NetEase isn't against sexy characters at all, and it's just an outfit.
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>>565452217
You will be a counter pick to an nuisance character and you will like it
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>>565452358
Yeah, Bishop has a chance to have that.
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>>565452476
dangerous trvke. they're not gonna like this one.
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>>565452217
Yea too bad, we are flying down the meta over riders path. Keep in mind they are doing this to 0 popularity drops I cant imagine how broken known MCU drops are going to be.


>i want players to have to be good with them and earn their wins.


lmao

Blackcat was legit called shit because she isn't braindead and the whole community dropped her ass like a bad habit
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>>565452269
They need to make a spiderman speedrun course
mode so these niggas can fuck off, feels like the game is 70% spiderman players
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>>565452685
Ai generated reply
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>>565452685
>Blackcat was legit called shit because she isn't braindead and the whole community dropped her ass like a bad habit
i do not want reddit to be like, "CAROL'S A TOP 5 CHARACTER! SHE'S SO VERSATILE AND INTUITIVE!" i would much rather the consensus be that i'm playing underdog characters.
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>>565453142
How would they manage a she hulk with rogue already being a combo merchant?
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>>565453778
if Rogue is an acrobatic beatdown Tekken character, She-Hulk should be a pro wrestler grappler Tekken character, like King.
>>565416829
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>DD has caught a large list of nerfs
>still S tier and easily kills 250/275 HP characters in an attosecond and needs 2+ people to focus him to die

im so fucking sick of this faggot
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>>565454831
the worst part is that he doesn't take damage when you try to peel him off your supports
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>>565454831
Zhiyong doesn't nerf he just puts in a placebo
and everyone acts like something has changed
while banning the same 6 heroes for 4 seasons straight
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>>565452643
They're just going to ignore it and keep bitching about some vague agenda.
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>>565454640
>grappling
People shit themselves and cried over Emma's singular 15 second cooldown grab
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>>565454831
Because most nerfs and buffs in this game are either nothingburger or target the completely wrong things. See Gambit's ult for the prime example.
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>>565455123
he probably doesnt play the game so he just shuffles around numbers trying to look useful

everything i've seen of the industry thus far leads me to believe that i think most game studios consider balance basically bitch work that no one wants to do. they usually throw juniors at it, or they hire an outsider to do it. the one time i worked in the industry (i applied as a programmer/designer) they explicitly wanted me to work at balance stuff because no one else at the team wanted to. it turns out that the job was pretty awful because it required me to contact every single designer and lead developer about everything to get their "blessing" on some basic change i wanted to make. eventually i got tired and just started doing my job properly without the politics, and got a lot of positive feedback from the players, and a whole slew of negative feedback from the other devs. i did not last long in that company because of it

really the issue is that the dev teams consider balance its own cosmos, not connected to anything else. they don't know what it really means, they just know the playerbase cries about it a lot. no senior dev was able to explain to me what part about "balance" via spreadsheet and statistical analysis would help make the game more fun or sell more units. after all none of them played the game so it was all just theoretical to them, like they viewed balancing the numbers as important in an OCD way.
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>>565452358
Probably not but this character design is a guilty pleasure ngl and for that reason I kind of want him I.
>>565453778
They’re not
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>>565456305
> he probably doesnt play the game
Not probably. He definitely doesn’t. Which in fairness, isn’t really all that abnormal with modern game devs from what I understand, but it’s clear they aren’t hiring anyone to test out his/their changes either which is usually the concession taken to make sure shit isn’t a clown show.
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>>565456305
I can barely even understand what the patch notes are saying these days...Like dude just reduce his sustain like you did ironfist
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>>565425792
>anon is so mentally cooked he sees tranny colors when every sane normal person thinks of bubblegum/cotton candy
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>>565456570
>>565456305
Great to see 16 year olds still pulling out "the developer doesn't play his own game!!!!" like it's some kind of epic revelation and not the norm for 30 years
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>>565426287
If it really were a censorship thing they wouldn't have had Emma's free skin have the ability to remove the cape to let her cake free.
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>solo tanking Venom on defense
>team goes triple heals
>get no healing on point because entire team is focused on a Blade attacking them
>check scoreboard
>team is now quadruple heals
Literally why in the fuck is the primary reflex reaction for everyone in this game to switch to Support by default? Why not switch to another tank? Why not even to a different DPS instead of running Squirrel Girl into Blade where you're obviously not doing well? If you don't have enough damage back there to kill Blade with triple support, why do you think you're getting it by adding a fourth?
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>>565457838
>Emma's free skin have the ability to remove the cape to let her cake free.
that was real?
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>>565457559
retard? no it's not the norm, it's just the norm in retarded shit companies like blizzard and netease. when you read the patch notes for valve games, you can tell the developers do play the game, or they at least very seriously consult player feedback. they aren't as great as they used to be in the tf2 days though

it needs to be pointed out every single time because the contempt these developers have for actually playing their own game defies belief. i've seen devs refuse to play their own game even if paid to do it. how are you going to design something if you have no idea how it works?
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>>565457982
*is real
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>>565458181
Hey underaged, read Masters of Doom for a look into the people who are actually into game development and who are successful at it
John Romero was seen as a pariah because he played his own game too much
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>>565393786
Thor is meant for Rocket
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>>565458383
why don't you "read" some actual lived experience in the industry, then learn basic pattern recognition so you can translate those anecdotal experiences to intuition like i have
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>>565458794
That's gotta be one of the openly craziest posts I've seen this year
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>>565457916
>strongest overall characters in the game
>gameplay that's like a crack cycle dopamine loop of constant feedback and sounds KOS healing hitmarkers
>least pressure role just sit in the back and shoot forward
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>>565458794
Concession accepted
Also you're too young to be posting here
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>>565458383
>Hey underaged, read Masters of Doom for a look into the people who are actually into game development and who are successful at it
Yeah, Romero was so successful. After he got lucky with Doom he did nothing bug flop after flop after flop.
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>>565457916
Lets see
>most supports basically have auto aim
>most supports has ten escapes
>most support have invincibility ults
>most supports have hard cc
hmmm I wonder why shittiers use them as crutch 99% of the time
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/mrg/ talking about game dev and design again, despite knowing nothing about it
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After 775 hours of playtime, I am ashamed to announce that I have my first Lord. Yeah, it's fucking Sue
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>>565460552
How did you avoid getting a lord on anyone else with that much playtime?
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Who would lose their shit at a deez nuts joke
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>>565460552
Do you not play ranked?Playing ranked automatically made me lord on strange,Cnd, rocket, namor and punisher
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>>565460340
What are some good resources for looking into this topic?
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>>565460656
I dunno
Second closest to Lord now is Doreen, followed by Peni

>>565460754
I do not play ranked
Quickplay/18v18 only
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>>565394421
Hey, at least Shocker is a more loved jobber than Trapster
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>>565458181
>they aren't as great as they used to be in the tf2 days though
The Degreaser, Soda Popper, and Bazaar Bargain would like a word
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>>565398815
Old comics love use purple or green on bad guys.
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>>565460103
Reading comprehension award
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>>565458181
>when you read the patch notes for valve games, you can tell the developers do play the game
meet your match?
"fixing" the righteous bison by removing a feature of the gun because the retarded codemonkey working on the game at the moment thought the projectile penetration was a bug and not a feature
Abandoning TF2 and leaving the spinhacks bots to fester for like 8 years
I genuinely don't get why people suck Valve off so much
Yeah, we get it. Steam is a good service, but they are as detached and scummy as every single other developer
Stop holding them upon a pedestal. The orange box came out in 2007
Let it go
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Look out gm3 and below, I'm high on molly and ready to queue
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>>565458181
>valve
>seriously consults player feedback
The TF2 YouTube community has survived for literal years just by making videos on how garbage half of the weapons in the game are
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>>565461871
thank God i lost 6 in a row and am now low D1
phew
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>streamer i put on for drops complaining about healer faggot who was practicing tank in gm but was a champion C&D and invis
Why are supportroons not doing their jobs?
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>>565406425
Funny things is Sauron call himself that way not because is a pteranodon but because it's a Tolkien fag and wanted an edgy name
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I'm pretty disappointed in this 'Avengers vs. Loki' mode, it's just the normal game against a jacked-up Loki when I was expecting them to have it be the Loki player dumping hordes of reskinned zombie Chitauri on your team and then showing up as the boss for everyone to beat, like they genuinely could've just reused the original zombies gimmick with different characters and a perma-ulted Hulk, plus literally every Avengers main movie villain has the "sends waves of shitters at you" gimmick in some form so they could've reused it with different rosters every time
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>>565406425
>genderswapped everyone
>except Warpath
For what purpose
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>>565457916
I'm gonna be honest with you anon, in order to climb or even just have a decent time winning on tank, you're going to have to accept that you need to babysit your team. You need to give up your game plan and divert to whatever the team needs.

In your case it sounds like you:
>expected team to be competent and run 222
>saw team went 123
>thought you could get support stalling cart
>found out you were just solo stalling while your team was losing a 5v1 backline
>didn't adapt because you were set on your gameplan and expected your team to adapt
>lost

I've been there, but what you need to do is:
>recognize your team is ass
>diagnose what is needed
>do it

In your case it sounds like what you needed to do is just bite the bullet, go Thing, crater the Blade the team can't deal with for whatever reason, and accept that you're going to lose first and maybe second point having to give ground to the cart solo saving your team until the Blade swaps off from getting clobbered and you can hopefully stall out the third point or whatever for whatever map. That's really it.
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>>565462470
What insane cope for someone being asked to just do their job and acting like it's some unfair ask victimizing them. Oh no, did the tank have to peel? You mean their fucking job? Oh did the anchor of the team need to keep aware of where the team is to anchor them? Cry me a fucking river.
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There's a good reasons to play the new pvp mode or there's nothing to unlock?
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>>565460835
Into what topic? How game dev works? Join some Discord or something for game devs or become a game dev. Or watch videos or articles for it. Or ask actual game devs.

For game balancing in particular for mobas and hero shooters
>usually the designers playtest the games dev builds daily or weekly, playing on live is rarely mandated and is left up for devs to do in their spare time
>QA are generally the ones best at the game because they play constantly and daily, rarely involved in any balance talks, might provide some feedback
>if enough negative player feedback comes in about a hero, usually leads will either come with suggestions for fixes to the respective 'owner' of the hero (usually the one that designed it) or just leave it up the designer, then the designer presents their soluton to the lead/director for approval
>very rarely a design lead will be more directly involved in balancing, since they tend to be tied up
>many devs, mainly programmers and artists, do not like testing the game because it 'wastes' workhours. not that uncommon for designers to try and skip it too when they can. if it's not mandated, it ranges from person to person
>some leads can be very busy with meetings, planning and such or have no interest in playing the game (sometimes they don't even like the game they work on)
>how balancing is done is heavily reliant on the directors and design leads, since they set the direction and approve changes
etc, this changes from company to company and cultures.

From what I can tell, Zhiyong either is too busy and/or lacks interest in playing the game. Maybe his designers too. He is very careful with big changes and prefers attempts at catch-all solutions (like tenacity or global ult charge nerfs). He clearly has specific intents with certain skills/heroes and does not like backtracking it, even if they prove to be big problems. His experience and understanding of the genre and MR itself is pretty limited.
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>>565461615
>>565461967
I suggest you get involved in Deadlock to understand what that anon is talking about.
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>>565462668
>team can't handle a 5v1
>tank has to peel
>cart advances because tank not stopping
>lose game because game is about stopping or advancing cart

How much did your mother drink while you were in the womb? If you have one tank, the tank's one job is to occupy the point. That's it. If you have 3 DPS then one of the 3 DPS needs to bodyguard supports. If you have 3supp then they should not be having any dive problem from a single divers because supps are the most overloaded sustain kits in the game.

There is no world in which the singular tank should be both occupying the cart and getting off the cart to come save his 5 team mates. This is also a problem of the retard team mates playing way the fuck too far back instead of being right behind the frontline at the cart so that he can easily turn around to peel without losing a bunch of ground. But in this game support babbies are so shit they think that they need to hide a mile back from point so that even with two tanks one of them can't even get back to them.
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>>565463301
He said tf2 though
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>>565460840
yea no wonder you are leveling so slow,you can only get big stats on ranked games
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>Game went from having like 2-4 big balancing issues to hundreds in a couple of months
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>>565464526
name one
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I swear to god guys, Rogue's abilities contribute to her own tenacity stack like Punisher's shotgun. I get tenacity activated constantly on Rogue unlike any other tank. One of her abilities has to be adding to the stack somehow.
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>>565464939
Rogue and Thing are the tanks that were screwed over tenacity the hardest.
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>>565464526
Name fifty-one
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>>565464751
thing ult doesnt function 40% of the time
blade dash still bugs out and teleports without dmg
namor hela teamup skill is better than wandas whole kit
white fox can 1v1 the entire cast for some reason
Storm moves slow as hell has shitty dmg and a bad ult
etc. its truly endless since all they have been doing is buffing the skin buyers heroes
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I'm now seeing how fucked up it is that the MCU Avengers lineup doesn't have a healer
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>>565457916
Cause anytime Tank role gets a character that's actually good and feels good to play, they always gets nerfed into the dirt immediately.
Meanwhile problematic Support heroes take months to even get a decent nerf and are still auto pilot tier. IW is starting to reach Hitler status to me the more I play this season as Gambit is only picked for his ult, and doesn't have a shit load of CC abilities and self shield.
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>>565466453
So what should they do?
increase shield movement cd?
lower shield healing amount?
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>>565465687
Is the a discord group where you organize to share these nogame opinions or are you retarded all on your own?
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>>565466717
>So what should they do?
Just.......revert the self shield, so you can actually think about positioning, and take back the m1 healing range. But I know Zhidong isn't gonna revert any bad balance change. He would let everything burn around him then ever think about doing a big balance change to the support roster.
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>>565466423
> Both Loki and Ultron are supports.

Uh-oh Thanosbros...
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>>565467438
Thanos support would be actually cool
Tha rangs would work better this way
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>>565465687
nta but
>thing ult doesnt function 40% of the time
You cant throw it out in the middle of scuffles like you used to because of the cc changes but 40% is being disingenuous. He does keep getting nerfed indirectly for no reason though
>blade dash still bugs out and teleports without dmg
I dont play him so I know dont care
>namor hela teamup skill is better than wandas whole kit
Comparing one hero to two doesn't really mean anything. Wanda sucks compared to most of the cast not a team up and its been like that no mater how much the buff her ult
>white fox can 1v1 the entire cast for some reason
I agree she shouldn't have two stuns in a combo as a support
>Storm moves slow as hell has shitty dmg and a bad ult
I also agree but storm has only ever been good with a team up so this again isnt a new problem


Kinda just sounds like
>the heroes who suck still suck and strong heroes get away with not sucking
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>>565467749
me on the left
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>>565393015
>$67.67
BWAHAHAHHAHAA
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I really liked playing Invis before they nerfed her shield into uselessness because her tranny playerbase would shit themselves and scream if they reverted the self shield
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>>565468017
>crying about a "nerf" on a broken character
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>>565462668
Imagine being so retarded you think the one tank's job is to come save the entire rest of the team that can't kill one diver.
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>>565403408
i don't even remember cloak exists when i play Tandy desu desu
he's just my Terror Cape and Fade buttons
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>>565468072
Reading comprehension award (2nd place)
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>>565463430
Cope harder bitch boy, but one day you'll realize your job is to do more than just park on cart and receive healing. On that day you'll finally reach silver.
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>>565468293
it's not a reading comprehension problem if i just read 2 words from your post
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>>565467749
wandas whole kit is worst than a single button press teamup, I wasn't comparing her to namor/hela
The "balance" is basically non existent....this game will have unlimited boosted players ruining rank matches forever at this rate
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>>565467749
>pic
You can prove it, people just dont look. Check your damage blocked and divide that by your deaths, if it's more than your max hp then congrats you've been getting healed. People with 3 deaths and 4k damage blocked complain about no heals when obviously they've been getting pumped heals and just are taking too much from bad positioning.
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>>565468017
same and the primary fire changes
she used to be honest and then they buffed her 5 times in a row so dagger egirls could handle her
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>>565410705
i do this to spidey players^^
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>>565468325
Anon go ahead and explain how the one tank is supposed to be both a mile off the cart babysitting his backline and also stopping the cart from advancing, the objective of the game.

Then explain how the three DPS could not just protect the supports.

Use whatever remnants of a brain you think you have after whatever accident took your frontal lobe.
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>>565410705
I treat them hoes like glorified gas stations
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>>565416082
then play luna and get most finals^^
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>>565468730
You're not supposed to do both at the same time, retard. You're supposed to do one then the other. I cant believe I have to explain to the geniuses here that tanks need to peel.
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>>565469118
Perfect, you've come back to what I already said back here >>565463430

Thank you for making my point retard.
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>>565416082
i have nothing but the upmost contempt for the people who talk about final hits in the post game chat lol
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>>565469242
You get off the cart. And later you get back on it. I bet it moved a lot more while you were all dead than it would have in the 6 seconds it would've taken you to peel.
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I cant even imagine mag going to his backline to save 5 players from dive comps while pushing the cart lmao just the image of him floating around with his wheelchair speed shooting his purple farts at the magik/Ironfist
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WHY DO PEOPLE LET THOR IN THE BACKLINE!? I JUST LOST A CLOSE GAME BECAUSE THEY PUSHED TOO FUCKING FAR AND LEFT THE CART! GOD DAMMIT
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>>565469598
Mag is ranged and doesnt need to do that. Mag turns around and gives the supp a bubble and shoots a peeling shove back at the diver. Why are you so retarded?
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>>565469118
>tanks need to peel for me and let the point be taken or move another 50% because me, the other two supports, and two dps can't just kill a diver five on one
You understand how pathetic a player that makes you sound?
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>>565469598
>be mag
>turn around to try to save your helpless baby team
>get shot in the back and massacred by the pokeslop enemies
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why doesnt my dps get picks, peel, one-shot the enemy fliers, burst down the enemy tank, off angle, flank, dive and change my diapey?? i just want to healbot its not that much to ask
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>>565469725
Yes, retard. That's your job. If you want healers to heal you, they need to be unoccupied to do that. Even if the healers win the dive fight, it's likely you took a fuckton of damage with no healing while they were fighting and died for it anyways. You. Need. To. Peel.
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>>565469718
>mag is ranged


lmao his purple farts are like 10ft max not to mention if the retarded backline is even in LOS
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>>565469491
This. The tiny amount of added damage of Venom's tickle tentacles is what your team needed to save them. Not the Punisher with the shotgun, not the Hela's blackhole and two shot headshot, not the Squirrel Girl's stun, not the Invis bubble and pull, not the Mantis sleep, not the Luna snowball and dps, not the Storm AOE lightning, not the entire range of abilities that the five other team mates have.

Yes, it is the Venom's anti-dive tentacles that are needed to make the different to stop a diver. This was the solution all along anon.
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>>565469963
If you're out of los of your healers then you're positioned wrong anyways, even before a diver shows up. This isn't that complicated, figure it out.
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>>565469604
The C9 will continue until morale improves

people not even strange porting these days they are so anti tank
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>>565470064
I guess let me know what you think once you reach silver, see if your opinion changes. Hey man if you think you have nothing to add to a fight, what do you think you're going to get done on the cart solo anyways?
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you know i hear about healers complaining about divers but when i play a support, i can typically swat away the divers like they're flies. dive is only a problem for me when it's like 2-3 heroes collapsing on me at once, and desu at that point it's not a dive issue, it's "team getting pressure diffed hard" issue
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>>565469910
No, if you're solo tank, you need to play the objective. Your team can handle a diver or two as a 5v1 or 2. You might notice that everyone ITT is calling you a retard right now because you can't seem to understand that this is an objective game and the job of the tanks is to make space and occupy that space. It's not to babysit shitters who are amile off point and can't handle themselves even with their completely OP characters.
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>>565470331
support sissies are a vocal minority that cries about everything that they dont like
they're just like women, tall children
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>>565470343
No, if you're solo tank you need to be doing twice as much, not half as much.
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why yes, i DO handicap myself by trying to ban IW every game
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>>565470126
Listen here goofball since you obviously dont even play tank because you would know that you aren't peeling shit with mag because the enemy tank,dps is going to be beating you into a pulp while not getting heals because you backline is taking ten business days to stop one diver.It happens all the time
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>>565470294
Post rank.
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>>565470659
I dont play tank in 7.5 but I played a lot of it all before now. You peel. This isnt even controversial, they added the ally shield as a separate fucking ability to mag to make it so retards like you wouldn't refuse to peel just to protect yourself.
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>>565470126
It's the supports' job to move up with the frontline dumbfag lmao, the frontliners don't have rear view mirrors and aren't assuming that their backline is retarded and not doing their job. If the supports are not in los with frontline then it's the supports who are positioning badly.

You can't possibly be this stupid. Let's see your playtime stats bud, I bet you're just a dumb supportnig.
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>>565470064
Yea man jump off point and save the carries and watch them get MVP/SVP, bro!
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>>565470950
Sorry you lack gamesense, I guess.
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>>565470851
>I dont play tank
We can tell.
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>>565471205
Illiterate retard alert.
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>>565471092
Nigger it's you who lack gamesense if you can't just stay within range of your frontliners and heal them lmao. You know how easy it is to just aim forwards and hold your fire button? Just press W and left click you dumb faguette lol like just point and click it's the easiest job in the game.

>uh but Black Panther is hitting me!
Literally every strategist and duelist in this game have a CC stun and an invincible escape and strats do nearly as much damage as dps, just fucking shoot the diver and use your toolkit, this is season 7.5 how have you not learned this basic skill yet? What bronzeshitter mentality is this that you need your chad thundercock hero tank to come save you and then fuck you gently at night and tuck you in too?
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Quick question how do you peel for supports who are getting poke raped?
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>>565471461
What? That was your hypothetical, not mine. You said you didnt have los from healers to tank, I said that's stupid and shows a lack of gamesense. Now youre telling me I'm stupid for being in the situation you said you often find yourself in? A situation I am not in? Are you retarded?
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>>565471593
Use your role as the anchor of the team to shift positioning to hold better sight lines. Picture yourself as a semi truck with a big trailer behind you, and you dont want them to shoot the trailer, so where can you park the cab so that that doesn't happen?
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>>565471593
You don’t that means they fucking suck and don’t know how to position themselves
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>>565471779
>>565471789
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>>565471249
>>565471092
>>565470851
Post rank.
Post stats.
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>>565471593
You contest the angles they’re shooting from. At that point, it isn’t really peeling anymore but fighting for valuable space. Sometimes you will question why the fuck you’re not getting heals, it is probably because the support is retreating away from the namor on the off angle your dps/off tank isn’t doing anything against
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>>565462668
>this fucking post
the person thats supposed to peel the diver off me is my other support, not my tank ._.
ohh myyy goddd im so sick of you invisible woman and C&D players just DITCHING me
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>>565471937
Its an example laid bare of exactly what I'm talking about.
>facing a problem? Change nothing, let yourself lose, do not react to enemy or ally positioning, do not react to anything, get tunnel vision on one thing and just do that and if you lose its someone else's fault
Or
>pay attention, take agency in your role, work as a team, enable your allies
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>>565471779
did chatgpt generate that for you?
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>>565471593
Tell them to play within cover.
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rivals eomm
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/fstP35c1zJQ
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>>565472134
No? It's basic positioning. What, you want to just dive in and ignore who got picked or pushed out, dive regardless and just blame everyone else?
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>>565471593
>supports play ten miles back from point instead of right behind their shield tank for cover
>they get pokeraped
If only there were a solution.
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>>565472350
>tank pushes 10 miles up away from the team
>team formation collapses
Gee what could have happened.
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>>565466717
>>565467402
that shield should've never been able to heal ppl around it
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>>565472447
Post rank.
Post stats.
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>>565472289
What you’re suggesting works well against a team AFK shooting down main. Though to be fair, that happens way too frequently
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>turn the game on
>bombarded with shitty skins I'd never buy
>turn on virginia off dallas
>hit QP
>dominion ofc
>3 spideys one Cnd lord and one undecided
>3 dps so I try some BC
>1min in I have 2 kills everyone has 1
>lose round
>everyone goes 2-2-2
>stomp other team who went 3dps
>win round
>my team stays the same
>other team whips out Lord bucky, gambit phoenix
>we lose
kek
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>>565471461
trying to engage support players on what the correct way to play is completely pointless because they have no frame of reference on how anything in the game works outside their tiny bubble where they healbot and instantly fold if they can't do that. most support mains are unironically delusional about basic strategy. once you get to a high enough rank, most support players are just dps players filling in
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>>565472542
Yeah a game is complicated with lots of moving parts, but it was an ask for general advice so the response was general.
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>>565472447
why is the team not pushing or holding point anyways?
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>>565467402
I look like this
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>>565472778
>its impossible to go in too deep
Sometimes you just overextend and pretending that being 10 miles up always means someone else fucked up is stupid.
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>>565472447
>tank
>pushes away from team
How is that possible unless the team's W keys are broken? How does a tank push away from a team when the tank is supposed to be leading the team's spacemaking? How does that happen anon? You understand that most tanks are also melee tanks that need to be point blank to use their damage and spacemaking cooldowns right? Unless they push up to point blank they're just sitting ducks for poke, hence why the backline needs to follow them not just get stuck in no man's land where they're just damage sponging?

At this point I'm just gonna second this >>565472536

You already admitted you can't play tank and are just a supportsissy bitching about your inability to play the game properly.
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>>565471593
Whats sad is the answer to this is the difference between BrnzIII peak and CelesIII peak
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>>565472943
It happens all the time, dont be retarded. You just refuse to notice it because every time you've done it you decided it was someone else's fault.
>krakoa payload defence point B
>team is at top of that hill fighting
>tank tunnel visions a kill and chases down the hill and around the corner
>have to go aaaaaaaaaaall the way down to get los again
>and also have to expose the rear to the high ground route
>tank dies alone 10 miles up with no los to backline
Its you people who assume this is the team's fault that are ruining games. You fucked up, you overextended, you were out of position. This is just one example out of dozens that happens every day.
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>>565472647
Average mrg healslut thinks the game revolves around them and expects to be a pampered pillow princess.

>Duelists? Why yes they exist to protect me from divers.
>Tanks? Why yes they exist to protect me from divers.
>Other supports? Why yes they exist to protect me from divers.
>I died? It's because the rest of the team wasn't doing their job protecting me. They didn't retreat out of position to come back to my location where I'm standing far away from the objective and they didn't constantly look backwards to see if I'm in need of help because I'm not pinging.
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>>565470773
the game says my projected rank is bornze 1 :D
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>>565472582
Wish NA server is the least worse?
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>>565410705
I dont know what it is but this season I have been having to jump into my healers face no matter the role, it might be too many duos playing or something.
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is there a more chronically downplayed character in this game than magik
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>Clear nightmare 50
>Doesn't unlock higher tiers
Wut?
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>>565473668
im midwest so I cant westcoast it spikes too much
but dallas has the most humans,virginia gets NY spideys at certain times of the day
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>>565473238
Post rank.
Post stats.
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>>565473331
The real realization that you'll have right before you start winning games is its everyone's job to do everything. Healers should heal but sometimes they're bailing someone out who's getting focused and if they stop to turn to you then that teammate dies, so you have to grt a health pack. DPS are meant to get kills and damage but a 0 damage fox is wasting a lot of potential and is only half a teammate. Tanks need to peel but a Namor squid thrown behind him is just as important as the one he throws forward to chase a kill.

You people are just so caught up in tunnel vision your one roll and fighting over it like its a sports team are all missing the fucking point. If anyone in the game just hyperfixates, they do shit. If your dps just dies chasing kills, you lose. If your tank just camps on point and doesnt react, you lose. If your healers just spam their primary on the objective, you lose. Figure it out already.
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>>565473906
No there isn't.
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b-b-b-b-b-but I was HIM!?
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/oh3VevjzO0U
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>>565473760
Most Supports in this game play DPS and healing is an afterthought.

In fairness, this is because the devs designed supports in this game as DPS with secondary healing ability.
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>>565473906
Starlord
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>>565473906
Nah its either namor,reed or thor , hell thor doesn't even get criticism
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Fucking HATE it when I can't even be happy over a climb because my last games I get the same goddamn retard who doesn't know when to ult as healer twice in a row. Fuck man.
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>>565472542
You need to know layer 1 strategies before you can work with layer 2, 3, 4 strategies. They all build upon each other (and each other's counters).
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>>565473906
Not as long as elsa moves faster than someone who teleports
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>>565473906
It is strange right now. He is so good right now, but no one really plays tank to give a shit
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>>565474021
Post rank.
Post stats.
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>>565474227
yeah i mean thor doesn't have a 10m dash with a huge hitbox, burst kill combos, on-demand i frames, and free overhealth on hit.
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rank
stats
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If your healer has to stop healing you to kill a diver, and you die in that time frame, you should have done something different. This should not be controversial, you people are just spergs.
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>>565469118
>tanks need to peel
It's not a tanks job to peel, especially in this game where they're bad at it too and many of them are melee or very short ranged so they have to be closer to the enemy and thus further away from their team. This is not Overwatch.
In Rivals strategists and duelists peel for each other first and foremost.
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>>565474559
he does have 10dash that puts you anywhere he wants, grounds you bubble ,has a shitton of hp, 3 taps 250 and lower and a mile wide ult that stuns slows and kills
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>>565474731
>and you die in that time frame, you should have done something different
The difference is in other games, tanks have some sustain and proper survivability to survive without healers for a couple of seconds and have better range to be able to stick near their team better.
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>>565457916
>why does everyone go support
Support is just the default character in this game. They have damage, healing, and spacing abilities. They're the easiest role that everyone locks to. I play with a 6 stack of friends and friends of friends, and 4/6 are support mains/default to support. The most casual player just only plays support and sucks at it too. It is what it is.

I have Invis, Ultron, Rocket, DP on Lord from filling support and it is just by far the most fun and flexible role generally. You get to be constantly getting hitmarkers, KO effects, healing sound. You can heal, you can kill, with Invis you can even push people around, and you get a giant invincibility ultimate that wins fights usually. It's like crack. It's like playing DPS but you get to shoot your own team mates too. You should try it. Stop tanking. Join supports. You will be so much happier.
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>>565474227
Magikfags deflecting since season 0
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>>565474731
Well they need to take away all that survivability and damage these support sissies have if the weakest role has to save them from the second weakest role,Shit is not adding up
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>>565474731
Post stank.
Post rats.
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>>565474731
Post rank and stats.
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>>565475232
Not what I said. That's not the example. Reread it.
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>>565474806
No anon. The weakest class needs to abandon its one role in the game to save the strongest class.
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>>565474224
Whos downplaying sperglord? He's regularly seen as really solid you just cant play with every comp like phoenix.
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https://files.catbox.moe/m4muba.jpg
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>>565475326
>>565474686
>>565474521
>>565474003
Hey schizo, it's true in every game in every rank in every genre that if you die/lose, there's something you could have done differently to win. That's all I'm telling you, dont just blame everyone else, think for one second what you could have done instead to win. Stop having a melty for something so basic.
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I want more lasers in the game. I know it’s a weird and really specific nitpick but I just think that having more colorful projectiles would be fun
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>>565474806
>>565475094
Austist who won't post his pathetic healslut rank and stats will never reply to these because he can't comprehend that Rivals as a game favors supportsissies and tanks are not made for peeling and also even if they were it wouldn't be their job if they were solo tanking anyway.
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>>565475602
bronze...
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>>565475646
Because it's not a real ask. If I post a high rank you wont believe it and if I post a low rank you'll just say I'm wrong for saying the sky is blue. The point of asking is just to divert, not to actually know anything.
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>>565475602
>rank not posted
>stats not posted
Concession accepted.
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>>565474894
the worst he can do creates an actual risk/reward if he puts someone into his team his back is now towards the enemy team, he also has no i frames to escape a bad or missed dash, HP has no meaning in this game when DPS characters shit out as much damage as they do, it's easier to mess up a thor ult than a magik ult as magik retains all autonomy during hers. magik can also kill supports out of their ult much easier than thor can.
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>>565475627
Get ready for when cyclops drops in season 8.5. I really hope he doesn’t suck ass
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>>565475789
>you wont believe it!!
Post your rank in-game, blank out your name and have 4ch visible.
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>>565420882
No he's right. There are people in this game with 300+ hrs on Strategist that still have no awareness.
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>>565474731
>1 tank
>2 dps
>3 healers
>out of three healers, not one of them is capable of aiming their primary fire at the tank who's sole job it is to stop the enemy team's advance
>this is because it takes 2 dps and 3 healers to deal with one diver
>but one underpowered Marvel Rivals tank is the difference maker in anti-dive and needs to peel, the 2-3 dps or 2-3 healers in combination can't possibly
Why are you still arguing this absolutely retarded point?
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If your healers aren't healing you, do you just keep playing as if they're OAA tier supports, or do you change your gameplay in some way? It's psychotic that asking this is seen as some controversial thing. You people are hopeless.
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>>565475109
its true, someone should test 6 supports vs 6 dps then 6 supports vs 6 tanks
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>>565476032
Dps arent going to heal you, dumbass. Do you not read? Are you okay? Are you so caught up in your team sports mindset that you cant handle this conversation?
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People wouldn't be complaining so much if the average retard could comprehend using cover
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>>565475789
No, you are the one who's constantly saying "uh once you pass X rank you'll figure this out".

No one else brought up rank until you did. So, if you want anything you say to have any credence, by all means show us that you're not a branzestuck supportsissy who needs big daddy solo tank to come make sweet love to your asshole and protect you and the rest of the team from the mean diver.
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>>565474680
SCARY NIGGAS
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Why do you guys even play ranked
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>>565475872
thor flanks better than magik though...
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>>565476243
Yeah and the rank I'm saying to pass is Bronze, dumbass. Not GM. This isn't elite level knowledge, people in silver should be able to figure this out. You have to react and adapt to win games, holy shit this isn't fucking deep lore.
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>>565476207
Maybe one of the three healers could heal. That would be crazy. But no, according to you healers and dps are so genuinely retarded that it takes 2 dps and and 3 healers to deal with one diver.
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>>565476556
I'm sorry you just dont understand the example. I can't help you if you cant read my posts. Calm down and maybe try reading it again later.
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>>565425792
this games troon dog whistle is why it has more troons playing than OW2
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>>565476459
Rank.
Stats.
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>>565473906
as of this patch it's luna and white fox
those two characters are retard broken now
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>>565476743
Why, sperg? What, you think only a metal rank shitter could possibly think that you have to react to the game to win? You're just trying to avoid facing what I'm saying and get a lazy last word in.
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>>565476798
lol
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>>565476798
Isnt it weird BC a DUELIST cant solo white fox A STRATEGIST in a 1v1 cat fight
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How hard is it to play Magik on console?
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>>565476954
>brings up rank to try to avoid what others are saying
>suddenly offended when others tell him to post rank and stats
Rank.
Stats.
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>>565474680
Massive waste of potential
>>565462397
It’s a disappointment and I’m bummed that this is sucking up resources that could have went into something else, good thing is that clearly isn’t that much.
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>>565477145
Oh so you're just offended. The difference is I gave you a dismissive insult when you refused to engage with what I said and offered no argument, and you're saying this to refused to engage with what I'm saying and avoid an argument. Sorry snowflake, I'll be more gentle next time.
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>one support sissy gets the whole thread to bully him because healsluts love being demeaned and degraded
>thread falls for it
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>>565477124
She’s pretty easy actually. Her control scheme fits perfectly for console. Plus the average player is worse at shooting, so her survivability is a little bit higher in this environment
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The problem with you people is you think if the dps cant pick a healer he's a worthless shitter, and if a healer cant survive a dps then he's a worthless shitter, and you never think for 2 seconds on how those two things are in conflict.
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>>565477407
pls spidey its my promo game pls switch
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>>565477337
Post rank, Bronzeshitter.
Post stats, Bronzeshitter.
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>>565477407
I literally already said I have most of my time on tank. I'm trying to give tank tips, not support tips. And my tip is just "be aware of where your team is and what theyre doing, and take actions based on that" and thats causing a fucking schizo melty.
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>>565468559
hot and cute
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>>565477124
easy enough for magik to have a near 70% win rate on console. she absolutely runs those platforms.
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>>565476798
invis, luna and white fox all have way stronger neutrals than gambit and gambit is hard carried by his ult
i guarantee you if they actually level out gambit's ult next patch, those 3 will be the next most banned supports
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>>565477069
It's because NetEase knows the supportnigs shit their pants if they can't 1v1 dps and tanks.

However, I'd actually be completely fine with supports being OP if they would actually do their job and heal. But most of the time instead it just incentivizes them to play DPS as the strategist and ignore their team. They just play DPS+Healing instead of actually filling their role.

What they need to do is keep supports the same, but lower the damage on their primary fire. This lowers pokeslop and makes them more team dependent and less incentivized to be firing down main instead of into their team that need it.
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>>565477124
She was made for controller since she's a sequence character and it works perfectly on that, plus its not like you really need to aim.
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>>565477510
No conflict at all healers are the strongest role everyone just larps dps and tank because of different playstyles. GuanGuan is making the role mobile tier easy for more casual retention its why jeff, white fox, and luna just got buffs
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>>565477996
Okay, so you cant read, got it.
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Healers shouldn't be strong when I'm attacking them. Also, my healers should be able to 1v1 any diver so I can concentrate on picks because I'm the main character.
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>statless rankless fag still posting as if anyone is listening at this point
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>>565477124
Considering Magik has the highest win-rate of any character on console while console players are regarded as braindead retards it shouldn't be that hard.
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Rankedfags are the scourge of the earth. Once you stop caring about meaningless numbers on the screen and become a QP player, or better yet, an 18v18 god, you’ll understand
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>>565478569
Can you explain why it's bad to know where your teammates are
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>>565478679
i only play ranked because i can ban IW, game is way more enjoyable when she's not in it
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>>565478365
>1v1

I fucking wish it was a 1v1 its always 2 or 3 struggling with one
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Genuinely whomtf approved this Loki mode lmao wtf is this

>Avengers are useless running and splitting up for health packs
>Loki can not just one shot people but has a variety of abilities to split damage against him and focus
>it's just capture the point
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>4+ minute queue in Avengers v. Loki mode barely a day after release
Damn this mode flopped hard lmao
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>>565478946
it's so skewed in favor of loki there's no point in playing. at least they were smart enough to not put any rewards behind playing it.
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>>565478909
>still giving him attention
Just stop anon, he gets off on it, he's got a plug in right now >>565477407
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>>565477827
>invis
Absolutely
>luna
I still would rather have a gambit, since his chain heal, cleanse, and multiple dashes makes him more versatile
>fox
Just hard to tell for me
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>>565474471
she's not downplayed retard
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>>565479085
a cage on too? asking for a friend
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Bitch I got Diamond 3 I don't give a fuck about climbing rank after that
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>>565478946
It's obvious now that they were just mandated to do it as a promotional tie-in and it's probably just one guy at the studio who's going to be sharting out these modes.
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Yo yo whaddup /mrg/

Quick art update but I finished the second Half of the Latest Hela 2026 Set I did >>565221745 and it's Golden Bikini Week in Japan right now so here's Golden Bikini HELA!

Hopefully this manifests into NetEase giving Hela a proper summer skin but until it does enjoy this Default Alt of the main Set yes there is very slight pubes peaking from her undies but the nsfw alts have tanlines and piercings/etc etc

Working on a very VERY quick coloured sketch of Emma Frost's latest skin, it'll be Booty focused so until THAT's done enjoy the Golden Bikini Hela bros!
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reed buffs when? he's the potential man of this game
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/m6lV6OmiG1w
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>I am tank, I sit on point
>1v5? I stay on point
>team out of los? I stay on point
>healers dead? I stay on point
>staggered respawn? I stay on point
>if we lose? I was on point, must be someone else's fault
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>>565478679
>he cant handle getting better so he just plays in the sandbox falling on cat shit


You should just go to bots then , atleast play arcade
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>>565479483
Who the fuck showers before getting in the pool
What planet are you from
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>>565479606
There's literally signs at every public pool asking you to do this.
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>>565479606
shes trying to fit into earth customs give her a break
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>>565475602
not actually true at all. if anything a lot of top ranked players will give up pretty early on if they realize the game is too hard to win, because sweating like crazy to trying to drag some massive turd across the finish line is simply not worth it, and you're better off conserving your mental wellbeing for games that you can actually feasibly win. these people also have a lot of ego because ego is required to actually make aggressive plays and win 1v1s and shit like that

however the issue is when you have some diamond shitter who legit sucks and has the same mentality. those people remain hardstuck forever. if you aren't consistently climbing then you must be doing something wrong on a systemic level, and it's time to swallow your pride and actually take a hard look at your own play
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>>565479485
reed can't have buffs without being reworked. he already has more survival potential than most tanks and doesn't need to actually aim to hit his primary. reed is actually pretty balanced in his current state but inflated mode is a double edged sword rather than a straight buff.
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>help me im getting touched
>I only have the infinity gauntlet of tools
>pls big strong tankGOD could you come and save me!!!
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>>565479606
>t. the smelly fuck polluting the public pool
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>>565479606
If you're going to use a PUBLIC pool you'd shower first if you aren't subhuman.
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>>565479742
No?
And even if there was nobody would do it
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>>565478946
The only cool thing about it is the unique narration from Loki, otherwise the mode is trash. I played cap on it and all I did was run around looking for health packs and hoping to stall.
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>>565479485
>>565479871

He's my favorite but man that ult is really shitty
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>get Emma butt
>lose Elsa panties
How does this make you feel?
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the irony that the jliteral eet artist >>565479483
is outjeeted by this fag >>565479606
you should be ashamed, stinky nigga
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>>565479606
Anon please shower before jumping in a pool
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>>565479758
>if you aren't consistently climbing then you must be doing something wrong on a systemic level, and it's time to swallow your pride and actually take a hard look at your own play
although actually i don't think this is true anymore since the game's ranked gains have been turned retarded by the performance metric bullshit. you are currently better off padding your stats and trying not to lose too much, at least until you reach a rank where you actually have to consistently play to win. i noticed that i gain a shitload of rank whenever i play luna as a dps/support hybrid because the average skill level of that hero is so low
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>>565480154
emma butt is weak because the gala costume doesn't ride as high as her standard leotards
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>>565479758
>players will give up pretty early on if they realize the game is too hard to win, because sweating like crazy to trying to drag some massive turd across the finish line is simply not worth it
That doesn't make me wrong. There's still something they could do to win, they're just not willing to do it. The point is, if they lost because they just werent willing to try, it's not the teams fault.
>however the issue is when you have some diamond shitter who legit sucks and has the same mentality
That's what I've been saying, you cant just keep playing the same way in that case and expect a win, you have to play differently, you have to adapt and do something else to win.
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>Who the fuck showers before getting in the pool
>What planet are you from
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>>565480154
Elsa has a better skin so indifferent
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>>565480040
Yes.
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>>565480154
BC ass is bigger though
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>>565462470
>netease makes tanks the weakest shitters in the game
>and yet, even as a solo tank, the reality is you still need to be the one to babysit your team
It's amazing how they managed this. In Overwatch tanks are actually good and so if someone is bullying your team you can quickly set it straight while not losing ground. They have sustain and don't need pocketing to survive and so they can turn their back to damage and peel, or can hold their own on point while the team hits the diver if they're solo.

NetEase made MR a complete pokselop nightmare and tanks have little to no shielding and sustain so they need healers at all times in general. Then they also decided that most tanks would be melee tanks that need to be point blank to do damage and threaten space so they have to get in harm's way to do anything and take damage, requiring healing. And so, solo tanking is just the norm in MR, and still as tank, even with your shit tier toolkit, you need to be the one managing your team at all times, which just leads to more solo tanking because no one wants to do that.

Generally you just have to realize that this is not an objective game, it's a tdm game where you claim and move objective in between tdm team fights. If you're solo tanking and the enemy team has one diver, you have to accept that your five other team mates cannot handle it and you need to abandon objective, fight a team fight to kill the one or two divers, and then hope you can then return to point without a dead healer. The reality of this though is usually just that your team gets tied up in a team fight way back from point, loses one or two in the process of killing a diver or two, then can't advance on point effectively, and you lose.

This is why team fights are supposed to happen on point, but backliners in this game think they can't move up if there is an enemy present on their screen and so strand themselves way back nearer to spawn than the point so they're stuck as easy targets.
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>Who the fuck showers before getting in the pool
>What planet are you from
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>>565479606
This is the first time I've seen an Indian legitimately out themselves like this.
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>>565480630
my tongue belongs in there
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>>565479606
This is why they chlorinemaxx the pool so hard
its not a tub you fucker
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im crying laughing right now LMAO thank you jeet bro.
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is there a disney plus trial so I can get loki skin?
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If Elsa Bloodstone and Phoenix are considered okay I see no reason why Emma can't be returned to her release state.
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>>565479606
good morning saar
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>>565479606
>bro is literally a bigger jeet than the fucking jeet artist
LMAOOOO
anyway >>565479483 draw more lady loki pls
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>jeet tries to scam his female boss at JP Morgan and gets outed
>jeet tries to scam public pool but is made to shower
Devastating day for poo
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>>565479606
Mythical self report
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>>565479483
Thanks King
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>>565480154
Mid. Elsa's ass is also pretty big, would've been nice to see it in panties
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>>565480296
eh i mean my argument is that even diamond shitters should try to "cap" their rage. sometimes you just get the most boosted, retarded, e-girliest, dude-weed-lmao shitter on your team. sometimes you get 3 of them, and you're going to lose the match. i notice a lot of players continuing to rage and emotionally commit to a game that simply isn't winnable, which burns them out and causes them to ragequeue.

it's never really worth outright throwing or griefing, but imo it's better to disassociate a bit and practice your weaker heroes when you realize the game is much, much too hard. in my experience is that that this is the best way to serve comeuppance to the actual habitual shitters on your team too, like you're not even paying attention to them or trying to carry them (as they would want) and instead you're just treating them like an unfortunate accident and then gg go next
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>>565479483
I can look at this hela sexo without thinking about fucking pool anon
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>>565479606
Sonion
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>>565480929
same with mantis and human torch , let the flood gates open
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>>565468017
>uselessness
lol no, it still blocks several ults like strange/mag/namor/groot/ironman/angela/etc and other strong projectiles, it can still save a teammate's or your life in a critical hp/overexposed moment, still gives you an advantage in a 1v1 vs a hero that shoots, still heals teammates as quickly as launch(50hp per sec) so you can spam and retract constantly for even more group heals or set it somewhere behind cover for one of your off-angling dps to regen quick with (for example, the roof of shrine on first point of kunlun)

>>565468553
>primary fire changes
fuck no, her m1 felt so shit to use with its delay and less dmg. kinda like fox's m1 right now but with a smaller hitbox and without the added auto aim at the end. not even bummed about shield nerfs, as long as they leave the more fun and responsive primary alone
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>>565480636
>24 dps
15 shoots 16 if you count blade

>13 tanks
only 3 blocks ranged attacks 4 if you count emma
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>>565468017
I wouldn’t mind sue’s self shield, if she couldn’t shield allies. Meaning she can’t pocket a dps on an off angle, while healing in main for free. This would make her having piercing heals off cooldown a lot less toxic
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>>565482039
It's really amazing how NetEase decided that for most of the tanks their primary way of blocking damage would be with their face.
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>>565482039
I think the chinkeroos are terrified of having a bubble meta where you just advance your big bubble of shields against the opponents' big bubble of shields.
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>>565478679
I have easier games in ranked ironically enough, helps I don't care about my numbers and I can ban IW and DD. If I just want to practice a new character I just 18v18 and or vs AI.
QP is just filled with QP warrior stacks holy lmao.
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>Star and Daredevil starts complaining about our Mag being shit for missing his ult on Punisher
>The Punisher was being protected like no tomorrow
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>>565482039
w8 I fucked up
26dps
16 shoots 17 if you count blade
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>>565482334
I mean the women sure as hell have the jawline for it LMAO
>>565481045
Saarbros have had it rough lately
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>>565482039
>>565482334
>Captain America
>literally the singular fictional character known for his trademark of using a shield
>not a shield tank
>shield has 350hp and can't even totally block for himself let alone the team
>they make him a dive tank
>give him a support ult that normally your team doesn't benefit from because you're not with your team

Why do this. It would have been cool to have Cap actually frontlining and leading the team charge with a big impenetrable shield. Instead you're basically relegated to Strange or Mag.
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>>565482515
Whenever I go on a winning streak EOMM pulls the plug and has me go against a coordinated stack who all just happen to dive at the exact same time
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>>565479606
>Who the fuck showers before getting in the pool
lmfao, what shithole are you from? Bangladesh? You shower so as not to bring sweat and dirt into the pool everyone else will be using. Do you also piss in public pools?
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>>565480154
I have to agree that Emma’s butt isn’t nearly as impressive as I thought it was going to be. Disappointing. Black Cat has handily taken the throne from her as far as proportions go. Possibly Elsa too.
>>565479448
That one guy probably isn’t even getting any extra benefits either. Rough.
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>>565482993
They either need to make it like gambit's ult upon activation or within a certain distance from cap, the whole follow the path thing was outdated even back in season 0 because not everyone wants to be so close to danger.
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>>565479606
Put me in the screencap
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>>565479606
i bet you pee in the pool too, disgusting jeet
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>>565482993
He should have gotten reworked around the time jeff got reworked instead melee cancel tards gaslight netease into thinking he is godlike because he gets to die last on his team
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>>565479871
>reed can't have buffs without being reworked

Only thing Reed needs to be good are two things
>make his ult not complete dogshit
>make his grip act as some burst damage since his damage is crap, doing 90 damage over almost 2 seconds is shit and the cc part of it is bad
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>>565479606
I’m going to step into the line of fire with you and admit I’ve never seen a pool ask you to shower before getting in. Or if I have I don’t remember. It’s my first time hearing of it. You shower after you get out to rinse the chlorine and chemicals off of you.
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>>565483560
How brown is this general?
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>>565479606
Dawg
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>>565483560
You do both. Every single public pool has that sign, I garuntee it.
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>>565482993
His ult should have been a SNK style beatup combo grab
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>>565482993
>Cap's entire thing is that he's an inspiring, heroic presence right in the thick of the fight leading his team to victory
>intended Rivals playstyle is running around in enemy backline beating women and animals
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>>565483851
And stalling eternally because he can do this all day
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>>565483851
>beating women
BASED! I'm not a cap main!
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>>565482993
It reflects the overall problem they have in relation to tanks. They keep designing brawl/dive tanks as the norm rather than as secondary tanks while shield tanks are few and far between.
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>>565483851
>Captain America heroically charging into the backline to give the Hank Pym to Sue
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>>565484227
It would be cool if one errant heal didnt recover 6 seconds of pillow fisting and now with ultron back in the mix your not hurting them at all..
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>>565484659
Awww does holding one button down not work? You gotta actually habe target selection and timing? So saaaad...
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Magneto's old Scarlet teamup and Ultron's Iron Man team up should just part of their base moveset.
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>>565484659
The devs should buff his shield throws to have roughly the same damage output as mag’s primary. But limit the stored shield throws from 4 to 2.
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>>565485528
Mag's no, but Ultron yes.

Also the following team ups should have just been permanent:
>Thor/Cap
>Sharknado
>Mag/Wanda
>F4
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>>565485528
I would much rather have a float/super jump tbqh
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the amount of games that i lose after i ban IW and someone that prepicked her gets butthurt is approaching infinity
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>black widow's last balance change was over a year ago
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>pickrate lower than caps


holy shit what a wasted slot
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>>565486352
games have been coming down to who has the better iw and if you ban iw it comes down to the iw main and how well they can play a different support. if they swap to cnd you lost.
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>>565486543
>make tank with unique gimmick
>turn her into a generic brawler
>fill the game with so much CC she is easily taken out of flight and ruin her combos/set ups

yeah i wonder why
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>>565486665
you forgot about them always being butthurt and whining all game if you ban them out on your team
it's also crazy how many times everyone but the guy who prepicked her cares while the 4 other faggots can stop berating me
still pretty funny to see them so butthurt
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>>565486352
>>565486665
This is why you need more meta shakeups, so players don't just one trick one strong hero and can't play anything else.
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>>565486543
>make the flying tank slower and more clunky to play
Great balancing
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>>565452476
b-b-b-but DISNEY!
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>>565486539
>keep making dps
>they are starting to overlap
>only focus on supports
>fuck it make more dps!
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>>565462231
Funnily enough it is accurate to The Lord of the Rings, since the Nazguls rode pterosaurs.
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>>565479606
ewww stinky
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I'm trying to do Nightmare 52 and for some reason the matchmaking gave me 39. What gives?
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>>565486543
>mid tier at best tank
>remove her personal gimmick of being a flying kidnapper and bust its cooldown
>try to make her yet another ground brawler
>add a new anti-cc mechanic that not just activates on her kidnapping but also GUARANTEED ACTIVATES EVERY SINGLE TIME FROM HER ULT
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>>565487271
it flexes depending on whos playing and most people are doing high levels at this point.
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>>565487135
It is pretty funny how
>black panther
>daredevil
>psylocke
More or less have the same core design, with varying degrees of explosiveness/versatility
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>tenacity is triggered by grounding against non flying heroes

??????????????
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>>565487549
LOL
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Gave up trying to beat Nightmare 110 as Thor
Fortunately grinding up a new character doesn't actually take that long but fuck I am tired of this one-shot slop
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I played two matches of Comp yesterday, and I logged off one those two wins. Today I am ready for my punishment guanguang-sama.
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>>565487324
do you enjoy that shredding sound her ult makes now?
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>>565487708
I get it bro I managed to beat 115 as awakening Thor but it was struggle and I never beat 120
The boos healthpools are too big and they one-shot you eventually
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soloQ is hell
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>>565487324
You know the rules if your tank can kill support sissies effectively you gotta go
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>>565487324
Honestly I'm Lord Angela with 68% winrate on the character and I haven't noticed the changes a huge ton.

The most noticeable weakness now is that I have less Ult stopping frequency. I used to entirely negate airborne Ults like Iron Man or Wanda and even some grounded like CND. With a 6 second cooldown I am more often in scenarios where I have to fly up in their faces with my shield to block these Ults instead of full canceling them with my spear.

The most egregious though is that my Ultimate grants a full Tenacity state outright. If they don't die in her Ult, they get Tenacity granted, guaranteed. I can't understand how NetEase did not look at Angela, Thing, and Rogue, see that their kits in and of themselves grant a Tenacity state, and change something.
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thanks for robbing me of frames when the first teamfight begins, unreal engine
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>>565462231
Why would someone deliberately associate themselves with the unambiguously evil villains from lord of the rings? He must be a total edgelord incel freak.
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>>565489570
>I can't understand how NetEase did not look at Angela, Thing, and Rogue, see that their kits in and of themselves grant a Tenacity state, and change something.
Because the entire point of this was to not have to individually look at and tweak things. Zhiyong wanted a catch-all "solution" that a minimal amount of his time.
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>>565487324
Just don't play tanks this season.
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>>565489570
>can't understand how NetEase did not look at Angela, Thing, and Rogue, see that their kits in and of themselves grant a Tenacity state, and change something.


Why does everyone assume it wasn't intentional?
this tenacity trash works efficiently on tank skills.
If someone is solo tanking it basically doesn't even proc at all.. for full matches
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>>565489570
>I don't notice the changes
>other than two things that I state are both the most noticeable and egregious nerfs to the kit
This is why supportsissies get buffed into omega tier while tankchads get nothing. Tanks are just like "Oh well yeah I mean they removed my main kit but I still adapt and make it work it's not so bad." Pathetic.
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I'm convinced Zhiyong does not understand how to design tanks nor does he understand what their place in the gameplay loop should be so they just feel useless as he himself doesn't see a use for them. Completely fucked that I went from the majority of my hours on my lord Thor being PvP to PvE because they could figure out how to make him anything other than a pseudo shooter character, I long for the days of bonking being his core damage along with his movement swings.

I used to think maybe role queue could help, but that just wouldn't work either without a larger rebalancing of the game that I do not believe is possible with their current hero release schedule.
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Kinda sad the Zhiyong hater hasn't been around to make more meme images of Zhiyong.
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>>565490418
What rank you think he can get to? considering he is obviously and aimlet dps player
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>>565487167
… Were they actually called pterosaurs?
>>565489793
Heh. That’s one word for them.
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>>565490418
I miss Season 0 and 1 Thor.

All the buffs he's gotten like steering, bubble grounding, lightning cancel, all very nice, but I would revert them all just to have my hammer throw back on Thorforce and a 1second cooldown. I used to frontline brawl with Thor just clonk clonk clonk throw clonk clonk clonk throw clonk clonk clonk zoom clonk clonk clonk throw and it would give me constant sustain blue life bludgeoning tanks up close.

Now swinging the hammer is just some shit you do to get back a Thorforce. He's an Awakening bot or you can play kidnapper which is a character niche that NE seems to be OBSESSED WITH making Wolverine a one trick pony gimmick character kidnapper, Angela, now Thor.
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>>565490716
Guanguang put his ass in witness protection

>>565490825
Hard stuck Plat 1

>>565490857
You get the VISION brother, you remember what S0 was like for tankchads. Same goes for S0 Strange. They were not invincible by any means if you were to compare them to OW tanks, however they were fun AND viable, especially the more skill you had with understanding heroes like Thor.
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>>565490857
>making Wolverine a one trick pony gimmick character kidnapper
Fuckin hate that shit honestly.

If Wolv released today he'd have:
>passive healing
>bleed effect
>wall climb
>two dashes
>Rage meter increases movement speed

Instead he's a Season 0 design victim and will never get a rework. He's a fucking gimmick, and at this point they made every tank have some counter to getting grabbing and Tenacity fucks both your one single purpose and your Ult too.

Also they won't give him actual Wolverine costume skins.
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Add Guillotine, she first appeared in the same comic as White Fox
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>>565491371
>cool sword
>cool name
What’s her gimmick
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reused gimmicks so far:
strange portal
seeing though walls
deflections
transformations
heal reductions(lol)
team hopping
healing circles
piercing shots
traps
Ult resets
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>>565490857
>>565491243
lol you shitters are just outing yourselves. wolverine has been one of the most creative characters in terms of play style for like 4 full seasons now. you're not getting full usage out of his kit if you're just hyperfocused on kidnapping tanks. His ult is also one of the lowest charge and highest impact ults, it has enough damage to be lethal but you can also you it to rip backliners into your team to break holds. If you actually want to learn go watch criatic, he's actually wolverine himself and he makes the hero work even in comps that 'counter' wolve
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>>565491824
post rank right now
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>>565491526
Add
>flying
>invisibility
>floating
>earthbound
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>>565491523
>What’s her gimmick
Cool sword and they’ll give her a French accent
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>>565491526
>>565491939
Add
>pressing left click and firing a projectile that heads towards your central targeting reticle
>pressing left click and activating a melee animation that does damage within a certain range and scope
>pressing directions on your WASD or control stick to make your character move within the game space
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Tankfags: My role is not the strongest at everything so the devs are incompetent
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>>565491939
is flying and earthbound a gimmick though?
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>>565491371
They would add black knight before this shit
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cc ults should bypass chain-cc protection, it's that simple
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>>565492113
they unironically want to just be thanos where they can self regen faster than luna's clap, have more mobility than spiderman+bp, and do as much damage as a point blank punisher hitting full headshot but without the aim and with a disjointed 'melee' hitbox
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>>565492087
>There are almost FIFTY different characters that charge up a super special ability through dealing damage or healing that you can activate pressing Q
NetEase is getting lazy…
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>>565492113
i'd like to just not get instantly deleted from a half second of exposure
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>>565397161
what ssd do u have
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>>565492127
I think I would be equally acceptable of either
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>>565491523
Magic cursed sentient sword trying to make her evil. She'll never get in though, she's an OC from Contest of Champions, the mobile game.
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>>565492331
then click your cds
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>>565492121
Full on flying without a cooldown associated is a gimmick. But I guess it is a superhero game, so maybe not
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>>565486543
>tank
>raising your shield puts it into cd
lmao number one sign of shit management of this hero
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>>565492113
>t. poke and support player
Is this the part where you also tell us tanks are overpowered and the strongest heroes in the game
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Everyone here would suddenly get a lot better if you played something out of your usual role once in awhile.
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>>565493083
>doesn't deny it
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>>565492646
There’s only ONE mobile game character allowed around here!
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>>565493258
Deny what? The disingenuous fallacy you made up that is the exact opposite of what people have been saying half this thread?
Go on, what exactly do you think "tank players" want? Be specific.
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>>565492113
non tankfags: could you switch to mag so you can protect my bussy please?
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>>565492113
Spoken like a one trick who doesn't even understand his own role. You will not have a 10 minute queue time if they rebalance the game to not be painfully unfun for tanks.

>>565493258
Yeah man, they're clearly the strongest and most popular role in the game right now man, for sure.

The reason PvE is the most popular draw right now is because they listened to retards like you two for balancing suggestions.
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>>565493369
That's different because its one of the dev's OCs. I love goth/punk sword babes, but she's not getting in.
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>>565493464
Sir I NEED you to type that without crying
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>>565493489
Do you think there's a role in this game that doesn't get teammates asking you to swap to help out?
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>>565493631
Concession accepted and you're not even denying it.
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>>565493513
I play Thor and Tankpool try again
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>>565492113
>geeez, tank players need to stop complaining. me? why yes i never play tank and enjoy killing them
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>>565450798
one of my favorite artists
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>>565493909
>>565493872
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>if ANYONE disagrees with me they MUST main the role that I boogeyman
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>>565493179
My top three most played characters are all different roles. I don’t think any role is more/less fun than the others, it all just boils down to the individual characters themselves
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>>565492113
Still waiting for you to explain what you think the tank mains are talking about.
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>>565493179
My top 12 is 4/4/4
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>>565493743
/mrg/ has been schitzo central all day and it's great
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Am I doing something wrong on Gambit? I always have low ass healing and damage numbers. I'm not feeding, or losing much, and in the game I feel like I'm saving lives and doing work. But then I see the stats at the end and it looks like I had a nap while playing.
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>>565494064
>if ANYONE dares qustion my disingenuous statement i will shit the bed, deflect and not back up anything i said
Riveting. imagine if you actually challenged your ideas and could back them up for once.
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>>565493715
The only dps who gets told to swap is wanda spidey and bp
And the only support is jeff

As soon as pressure goes to the backline everyone cries for shield tank even if you are successful
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>>565494354
I know you will, you dont have to say it. The real sign of a schizo is you assumed I was talking about you.
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>>565494512
So you're just shitposting, baiting and not even here to discuss. Good job raising the quality of this board.
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>>565494445
You're only successful if you win. SVP is a mark of shame that shows you played selfishly at the cost of the win/your team.
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>>565494445
>As soon as pressure goes to the backline everyone cries for shield tank
I hate that shit dude. I had games where the only ranged damage on the enemy team came from their Strange and Invis and my team asks me to go shield tank even though my current tank is infinitely more useful against the enemy team comp
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>>565477930
Wrong direction retard, let them keep the damage, cut the healing in half.

Ult farming/stalling is a fucking cancer. Either kill or don't stop being a fag. idk how awful the tank enviornment is this isn't a fucking MMO.
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>>565494642
No, but I don't blame a schizo for thinking that.
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>>565494694
>SVP is a mark of shame
It's literally the MVP of the losing team and even if they did laps around the MVP they won't get MVP if their team lost.
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>>565494642
I'm not disagreeing with you, but this is fucking /mrg/ it's already the bottle of the barrel for /vg/ and it is not even close. Half this thread would be much happier just posting sad frogs on /v/.

Notice how it always takes so long for a thread to get made around here anymore? It's because people like me said fuck it because it's not worth for the mouth breathing imbeciles that roam these halls.
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>>565492113
>tankbros are this easy to bait
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>>565494870
I'm aware.
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>>565494837
You must be powerfully retarded. The game is already a pokeslop nightmare where frontliners get melted down in two seconds because the support fire is contributing to the damage table on top of the DPS. Removing healing even more just makes tanks irrelevant entirely and the whole game becomes Call of Duty TDM.
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>>565494994
We're just tired man.
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>>565494863
Whatever helps you cope, shitposter. Keep making these quality posts just to attentionwhore. But you'll need to do better to get more (you).
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>>565495179
>the whole game becomes Call of Duty TDM
There is a decent chunk of people here and in the player base at large who want this. It's shame so many mother drink while they are pregnant.
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>>565494121
the top three most choosen for this season is white fox by a mile
Sue
Black cat
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>>565493369
Man. She looks so… different here
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>>565495179
>The game is already a pokeslop nightmare where frontliners get melted down in two seconds because the support fire is contributing to the damage table on top of the DPS. Removing healing even more just makes tanks irrelevant entirely and the whole game becomes Call of Duty TDM.

This is specifically because tanks can't survive without healers for even 2 seconds in this game and because tanks are very bad at protecting their team. They frontloaded all the sustain and utility on healers.
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>>565491371
Meh. It’s a better option than Betsey I guess lmao.
>>565492127
True.
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what if peni could use her grappling web to pull enemies into her nest
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>>565495585
Devs panicked too hard early when BP was running rampant and has been buffing supports non stop ever since
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>chances of getting antman diminshing
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Almost there, don’t turn back now!
>>565496705
>>565496705
>>565496705
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>>565495270
>attention whoring
>anonymously
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>>565393015
You guys ever think the OP is kind of bloated? Are links to every skin and event really necessary? Or a character reveal to someone who's been out for weeks now?
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>>565483695
Interesting. In my defense though I rarely even go to swimming pools because I usually just go to the beach instead.
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>>565489570
>introduce tenacity because tanks keep getting cc'd
>it basically only activates due to tanks
>Luna snowball still leaves me frozen for 3 seconds
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>>565404565
Point that finger back at yourself faggot
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>>565492242
>>565492113
Delusional support trannies
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>>565457559
That’s literally what I said THOUGH dummy
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>>565476718
No nibbles this time…
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>>565489793
just call em leftists/liberals



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