Path of Exile 2: Return of the Ancients - Teasershttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tqb4pk3bkbshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leKD92i_KYshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6q1UMNM9eY[PoE 1]>3.28 Patch Noteshttps://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-forum/patch-notes>Compiled links, tools and utilitieshttps://pastebin.com/SHt8unCt[PoE 2]>Druidshttps://pathofexile2.com/druids>Ongoing 0.4 patch noteshttps://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-forum/2212Previous >>565254208
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comparison is the thief of joy
D4 Won
0.5 is so big its basically poe3
i wish you could colour the folders, i want uniform colour in my stash tabs, i dont even want them to be all the rainbow colours just black would be fine
JONATROON is the thief of joy
i wish all poop1ers would die
shes seething again
well thats interesting didnt know fate of the vaal was poe2's version of incursion
>>565409283anon... i...
>>565409414i skipped the league played a lot during 0.3
>>565407035poe2 currency tab is so ugly
>>565410254yh i would like it to have artwork like the inventory tab and have it around the currency slots its too bare bones and grey in comparison to the right sideits probably because they dont have it finalised just yet
>>565407957Remember when he thought preventing respecs would increase build diversity instead of forcing everyone to follow a guide?
>>565408317Uh oh...
>the only thing poe2 has to show is half baked cinematicsuh oh
ds lily is looking so gay
I should keep on gambling
Ive been having dreams about poe2 leagues having delve, metamorph and a pet rasing mechanic where you can customize it to be a tank, healer, or dps.Also according to my dreams shadow and duelist are confirmed but they suck ass. Swords dont do any damage and they combined daggers with claws to make a shitty gimick weapon. You melee with claw in one hand while doing ranged/spell attacks with your dagger in the off hand. It has its own resource where you have to wait for your daggers to restock or pick them back up yourself.
cringe
anyone else playing pd2 while waiting for poe2 .5
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6q1UMNM9eYTEMPLAR FUCKING CONFIRMEDGLAD NEXT>3 new classes with 2 ascendancy each (Templar, Shadow, Gladiator)>3 new ascendancy for old classes>5 new weapons (Swords, Axes, Flails, Daggers and Claws)>1 new act (Oriath)>46 new passive tree nodes >Reworked late game>New league mechanic that prints great bases for craftingI TOLD YOU FAGS TO prepare your "apology form" now
>>565422846gomenasorry.... gomenasorry...
>>565422846I think its just seer
The new d4 endgame is pretty chill, it's like 0.2's mapping experience where you just go from dot to dot on the minimap and blast.
>>565422846I’ve always trusted the plan
>>565423837cringe
>>565423837Yep, its pretty fun now. Loot feels better, killing things feels better. The game finally doesn't feel like a chore to play.
>>565422846I am called from my mountain...We must stop this insanity.
Isn't it weird that Elder Madox is getting wrapped up with Delirium? Shouldn't it be a Karui thing since they were in charge of keeping that little shit in gay baby jail? You'd think he would be the Ritual guy instead.Now that I think of it, what happened to Mortimer? He was around for the beginning of 0.3 and then totally vanished.
>>565424692>Isn't it weird that Elder Madox is getting wrapped up with Delirium?no, he's the Elder of a village that got wiped out because "The Serpent" (Tangmazu) convinced a roastie that she should kill everyone.it's not strange for him to be involved with all.>Now that I think of it, what happened to MortimerMortimer is Kulemak in disguise.
>>565424692You can see Azmeri spirits in this teaser, so I really think it’s either going to combine Wisps and Delirium, or they’re announcing a revamp of both mechanics.
To this dayI still have no idea what wisps doOr how to properly use themOr whats the reward out of them (animal talismans?)
What did she mean by this
>>565425085It’s literally just those ghosts from Poe 1It flies around, buffing ordinary enemies and possessing rare monsters. And yes, the reward for defeating them is these unique talisman runes
>>565423837that's exactly the kind of snooze-inducing shit I play poe2 to avoid
What's some fun, unconvential spectres built for clearing?I was thinking of trying out the astral lich maybe, it looks like it has a fireball-type spell that might do well with gmp?
>YOU DON'T LIKE TOWERS IN POE2? WELL THEN HAVE ALL THE TOWERS!!!!!!
>>565422846>scottish accent so must be Templar>Abyssal League was also Templar and so is the KITM
>endgame is just tower maps
What do i do while Johnny cooks 0.5?>finish Cyberpunk dlc>start underrail
>>565422846Its the guy from the campaign who gives you free uniques.TAKEYOURMEDICATION
>>565422846>still one-shot slop>still bad defence mechanics>still garbage servers>more poe1 slop ported
well that was fun see you in 0.5
>>565425565If you say so buddy
I poopy the doopy!
>>565427489
Is Jonathan's tub filled to the brim?
how much longer
>Path of Excrement
>page 9Bleak...
>>565427096I just finished the cyberpunk dlc, your choices in the end are to get cucked or side with glowies
>>565431576Holy based
>Expedition reworked to be about new Kalguurans searching for vaal artifacts and information on divinity for their King>Delirium reworked to be about Elder Maddox getting spooked by something>Breach getting walls (lmao)>Ritual getting...?I dunno what they could do to make Ritual actually fun.
Is /v/ right?I read this and honestly it makes too much sense.GGG is trying to fix something with numbers you can't fix with numbers.
>>565422846I hate to tell you this anon, but 0.5.0 has:No new actNo new classesNo new weapon typesIt is a major reworking/redo of all the endgame. That's it.People are going to be severely assblasted if they think they're getting new base content. GGG infact should be putting it out there now that this is not the case to not get people fuming mad when the livestream drops.
>>565425140Why does that witch art look absolutely nothing like the actual character. The nose for starters is completely different as are the eyes etc.
>>565439079what he wants doesn't sound like poe at all
>>565435435Why is Idris Elba in that game
>>565439326GGG had 2 million people at EA launch across all platforms and it cratered to sub 300k within the first week. GGG were wrong to listen to PoE players. They focused on making the game good for the mazed retards who couldn't kill a white mob because they were used to just standing infront of mobs and insta killing them.They listened to the roughly 150k PoE players that exist, instead of the 1.9 million players that no longer exist.Game right now is sub 7k players. PoE2 was killed because of PoE1 and PoE1 players. Jonathan fucked up Chris and Erik's vision and instead of making a game for a new audience, pissed away their entire investment to just be back to the same if not lower playercount that PoE1 had. They effectively have gained no meaningful amount of new players since PoE2 launched to this day.The current host of PoE players will die in their 40's of thrombosis, heart disease, and other conditions due to sedentary lifestyle. GGG will not survive the 2030's.
>>565439326That's literally what No rest for the wicked is, too bad it's also an ea scam with a lot busywork.
>>565439883monkey paw curlsNo Rest for the Wicked should've been a hit, but:>They gave it a fucking RETARDED name that harms searchability and is a fucking paragraph>Ugly toony artstyle with character that look like deformed freaks>Focus on cutting wood and doing retarded repetitive unfun shit just to get materialsThey basically had a great recipe, all the right ingredients, but then just decided to piss in the pot.I maintain nrftw is still better than both D4 and PoE2 though and in time if they stick at it, it may become the game everyone is playing. I think the artystyle is too big of a barrier though. People want more realistic looking graphics not weird ugly blown out bloom everywhere.
POE POO BADPOE POO DOGSHITPOE > D2 > D3 > LastEpoch > GrimYawn > Wolcen > Dogshit > D4 > literally anything > poePOOBADPoe2 is BAAAAAAAD DogshIIIIIIIItPOEPOO WORST GAME TO EVER EXIST
>>565440106This but unironically
>>565440175PoE is fundamentally flawed and is a bastardisation of D2 that never achieved what it should have. The promise of PoE2 and it's initial success was to buck that expectation and give players a truly good game. But instead PoE2 is PoE1.5 with less content.Witcher 3 is an over 10 year old game and it's playercount has never to this day dropped below 10k on steam and it recieves no updates or patches, no dev videos or marketing what so ever.People just do not like path of exile. Videogames steer clear of it and path of exile 2 was a chance to reset the odometer and show people they can make a videogame, but no they can't. They can only make cookie clicker with extra steps.
>The Witcher 3
>>565439678>PoE2 was killed because of PoE1 and PoE1 players.wtf I love PoE1 players now???
>>565440521A game that is paid, has been around for a long arse time and gets no updates or promotion has more players than a game that is actively being developed and is supposably 'endlessly replayable' with itemisation and maps and things designed to keep players engaged - they're not.GGG should never have had PoE players test the game in EA, they should never have released EA only to poe paypig whales. They surrounded themselves with poe zealots who immediately screamed that the game wasn't like poe1 and changed every good part of poe2 into how poe1 does it.Fighting Geonor in act1 on release was fun, now it's a piece of shit retarded joke fight. If GGG focused only on new players, people who are not mazed, people who don't have the blinders of years of PoE in their brains, they'd have got real meaningful input on what the game truly lacks and how to take it forward. Instead they took it backwards and with it the playercount.PoE2's problems were all the PoE1 monster mechanics, leagues and crap they threw in at the last second. It was releasing with 2 Int characters, 3 ranged characters and 1 melee character who could only use 1 weapon classed and intrinsically sucked due to bad design/skill combat.
>>565440826>. They surrounded themselves with poe zealots who immediately screamed that the game wasn't like poe1 and changed every good part of poe2 into how poe1 does it.>Fighting Geonor in act1 on release was fun, now it's a piece of shit retarded joke fight.This is objectively true but poe drones can't admit it. They think zoom zoomslop is peak ARPG and cant think of anything else.
>he is a jingakh
>>565440357>Witcher 3 is an over 10 year old game and it's playercount has never to this day dropped below 10k on steam.It also has an 80% discount atm too.
>>565441685>8k playersA 20% error margin in guesstimates is considered a good ballpark in most strategy consulting firms
>>565440826Everyone loves Act 1 in PoE2 thoughGGG just shit the bed so hard with act 2, act 3, and the endgame We all realized that GGG is incapable of delivering on their "meaningful combat" wish, so we told them to make the game they're good at making.Jonatroon lost.Mark won.
>>565441845Just accept you're wrong you schizo narcissist.
>>565441984>they're good at makingdebatable
>>565442069Nta I just think his statement is correct, his arguments sound
>>565442276PoE Mobile will DEVASTATE all the competition
RELEASE DUELIST NOW
>>565442276The announcement teaser has more views than the D4 cinematic.Not sure what reality you live in, but judging your a tranime watcher, its clearly delusion.
why don't we get this in poe2
>>565443071>lame satanic shitI'm good
>>565443071Get what? Trannies?
>>565440521>if you can't give me source with exact dates, times, names, sentance for sentance then I've won the argumentEven if you prove you're right they'll claim it's racist or that you're an incel chud. I can't with these fuckersRebbit must train them up to be as obnoxious as possible
>>565444143you are such a fucking snowflake pissing your diaper over someone asking you to prove your point lmaoalso >posting aislopeven sadder
>>565443071>I don't play poe2
>>565443071>ugly safe hornyIt's impressive how Blizzard has managed to make showing skin ugly and repulsive.
>>565444143This is exactly what an incel chud racist would say...
>>565444376>pick fiery demon bitch>use a lightning spellno sense of class
>>565444529>ugly safe hornybut enough about poop2>>565444376
>>565444143>Even if you prove you're rightHe got proven wrong tho >>565441685I didn't want to earnestly engage with some fucking midwit who's comparing a niche unfinished AA early access game to some critically acclaimed normalfag slop from a completely different genre, that also has over over 60 million copies sold.Whats next, comparing PoE 2 to Red Dead Redemption 2?
>>565445154PoE 2 has lost of nudity, specifically female nudity.In D4 the "Queen of the succubus" is dressed like a conservative nun, cringe PG13 american prude game.
Diablo 4 doesn't even have breast physics lol
Ok but will be 0.5 be FUN?
>>565445878depends entirely on who designed the new weapon
>>565445326>single player game that hasn't had new content in almost a decade has more players than a live service game that has regular releases and a pre-existing fanbase from the previous live service game>"I-IT'S NOT FAIR TO COMPARE THEM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!">"LEAVE GGG ALONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
>diablo 4 new expansion>end game is doing exactly the same shit you did 2 years agostate
>>565446114You have the emotional maturity of a 13 year old girl.
>>565446341I accept your concession
I'm at 39/40.I can't be fucked doing ubers.Every single uber fight is a great big quivering pile of not fun
>>565446114bodied that freak
>>565447260pay $5 for some carries
ITT: dickrider plebbitors and jeetsenjoy the poo-filled ride to page 10 lol
>they still play poop1
>>565439678>They effectively have gained no meaningful amount of new players since PoE2 launched to this day.You're forgetting one thing. Those 1.9 million other players are the most fickle of audiences. Even if Poo2 was finished and had more content, nothing could hold their attention more than 1-2 weeks.Poo2 was GGG's worst financial decision ever. They should have just doubled down and went all in on poe1. No one who plays these games regularly gives a flying fuck about graphics, visual fidelity (you play these games by looking at the minimap anyway) or WASD movement.
2games1tub
>>565448552Why do you keep bumping the thread, you little bumpcuck.
tubgun is the face of poe
>>565448917You're so enlightened bro, that's why you're just some irrelevant consumer cuckold who's never produced anything of value in their entire life, right.Keep whine posting tho, you're going to change the world!!! YOUR POSTS WILL MANIFEST REALITY!!!!!!!!!!!BELIEVE IN YOURSELF, POSTING, MATTERS.Any day now...
>>565448917i came back only cuz of poe2, and when i realized its catering to poe1 zoomslop im not interested in coming back. Never playing poe1 cancer again, no matter what they add,
>>565449558Let me guess, you spend your entire day shitting up different game generals here. Do you get paid for it at least?
I can't imagine how you can't be hyped for 0.5
>two shitty 11 second teasers>you have to be hyped about all the delayed content in the paid beta test game!!!!!11111how about no
>>565449728Nah I play and enjoy video games, I only come here to check for news, but I cant help doing some drive by mocking of the sad faggots who sit here all day crying into the void.Get over yourself, you're not as important as you think you are.
>>565449991Personally I can't wait for the game to hit 1.0 and I hate those little inbetween steps. But I get why they do it from a business perspective. Doesn't mean I like it from a consumer standpoint. I want to play the finished game asap, not have them waste time with marketing and making assets and polish for inbetween versions.
>>565450097It looks good
>>565448917retard
>>565450458dumb nigger
Spent labour day respecing my double strike glad to shield crush executioner and the difference is enourmous. finally got maven and dread voidstones. I wished someone told me the easiest nightmare map was abomination so i didnt have to spend like 3 divines worth of nightmare maps on shit like sanctuary and fortress.
>>565450458this is a live service game, it doesnt get completed ever
I’m just curious to see what they’ll do with the old mechanics because Incursion was a really good and major update compared to PoE 1.
>>565450596Huh fortress is a breeze. Is abomination really easier? I only did fortress because everyone said it was the easiest
>>5654499910.1 to 0.4 weren't exactly it
I just want the full campaign, this boss is gonna be kino I just know it.
>>565450756>>565450571It's literally lacking basic weapon classes like axes and swords still. This isn't "normal live service" this is "blatantly unfinished game being marketted, polished and monetized"
The truth is that 0.1 was more finished than most fully released ARPGs sold at full price
>>565451698>buys early access game>"WTF IT'S NOT DONE????"
>I want the campaignthe campaign is literally sin pulling shit out of his ass and telling you which nonsense place is the next one to go, it's even so obvious and telegraphed that he is the main villain it makes me nauseous how bad everything about poo2 is really
>>565449991I just hope they're really adding a bunch of cool new classes to try, i didn't care about druid or huntress.
>>565451772>No I am not hyped for 0.5 I want the full game and I'm waiting for it>WTF WHY DO U PLAY IT THENI'm not retard, try reading you retarded indian faggot
>>565451698no refunds
>>565451772>just 2 more weeks!
>>565441685>>565445326The full scale chart only measures the daily peak, retards.
GGG have shot themselves in the foot by not releasing the game with all the classes included. New fans they’ve attracted have already got used to updates adding new classes, and when they do add them all, loads of people will simply leave because they don’t want to play the same characters every league and they need a new character with every update, just like in Diablo.
>Sin>is a literal God>used the Seed of the Beast to kill Kitava>outright states that it is now destroyed and reduced to ashes>flash forward>the seed exists again>Sin, the God (that can fly), gets chased by some literal who guy with a sword>gets caught and pinned to a tree (dunno why the Count didn't kill him>does literally nothing but kill steal from the player and dump exposition>has a new (worse) voice actor as wellI blame KittenCatNoodle for this
>>565451951I didn't pay money for it. Part of why I'm not giving a shit about poe2 until 1.0
>>565452247Gods in Poe are literally just supercharged mortals and you’ve literally killed them all.
>>565423837Yeah, it feels good to play a game again. Making a game complex and slow and painful for the sake of appearing high brow is insane.
>>565452442Why didn't he just fly away from the Count?Explain that one.
>Say I'm interested in a cool boss fight>Some ESL nigger takes my post as some opportunity to start crying about the story literally no one mentionedThis place is such a fucking estrogen filled cesspit these days, full of miserable flabby tit faggots just crying about nothing endlessly day in and out.
>>565449991Because we dont know anything yet, it could be a wet fart
>>565452574Not everything is about you, Rajbinderjeetjot Streetshitdhu
>>565452520He was impaled by a runic sword against a tree
>>565452789After spending half the cutscene running through the woodsInstead of using the wings on his back to fly away, out of reach from any bows or crossbows or swords
lil gupta posting basedjacks because he can't defend the terrible terrible poo2 campaign story
>>565452658By that logic you never allowed to be excited about anything. I liked the visuals they showed, and I’m curious to see how it will translate into the game.
>>565453030>After spending half the cutscene running through the woodsTry watching the intro again. He was caught off guard while dealing with random soldiers. It looks less like he was running away and more like he was hidinghttps://youtu.be/AOVg2aLjIiU?si=zp9w241N-JyES95t
>>565453448Why was he hiding on the ground when he has wings and can easily fly out of range of any soldier?
>>565453106No that doesn't follow that logic at all are you retarded? They literally didn't show anything concrete yet. Once they show concrete stuff it'll be actual things to look forward to (or not)
>>565453106i will be excited at the livestream, if there is some good stuff
>>565453706>They literally didn't show anything concrete yetThey’ve shown us three completely different things and we already know that Breach is somehow involved in this. It’s most likely a rework of existing mechanics, and I’m genuinely curious to see what they’ll do with them.
WINGED FUCKING RETARD
>>565453549Because he lost most of his power since Innocence fucked off 20 years prior
thanks to the anon who suggested running hive fortress instead of breaches, shit's crazy
>>565454072Yeah I'm curious too but you're conflating that with being hyped. I'm curious for more info, not hyped for the release
>>565454138Told you. Also at it and literally found a HH right now. Worthless, but still shows the printing potential.
act 5 campaign>sin: ooooooooooooo now that we have the defeated the backwards and corrupt maoi "people" and stole their culture land and belongings I just remembered that there was this ancient artifact in print("act5loc") that is in the hands of print("act5badguy") and we totes need to go there right now and meet with my friend print("act5ally") as he'll help us recover the artifact that is totally not "corrupted" by print("act5newmechanic") and it'll actually bring closure to the story this time I swear
>>565454187I'm really hyped about their stream. Between update delays and what I’ve described above, I expect they’ll show us plenty of interesting stuff.
>>565454346act5 is fighting king kalguur
If 0.5 doesn't have something similar to Harvest res swap, it's not worth playing.
>>565454346Actually this is so fucking bad. Turns out those maoi people were the good guys all along and they were helping contain the corruption... Fuck dude
>>565454096But he flies multiple times throughout the campaign.
>>565454138>>565454339redpill me
>>565454526retard
>>565454346act 5 is where they reveal that Xesht is the actual villain guiding the athiest order
>>565454606Because the protagonist believes in him now. It's campy and stupid but it has always been in the lore that gods get their powers from the beliefs of mortals
>>565454727retard
>>565454526uhhh your runes????your socketables???????????????????
>>565454842Why don't any of the NPCs from PoE1 believe him anymore after he and Innocence defeated Kitava
>>565454994they're all busy being edgy atheists
>>565454994I don't know, it was never explained why he disappeared after you got to the Epilogue
>>565455115are GGG hack frauds?
>>565449991im hyped to see what they are adding/changing to HOPEFULLY make the game betterim still not gonna play it again until 1.0 drops tho
>>565454727sorry sweaty, atheists can't be villains ;)
>>565455180No, we just don't see the vision yet. Let them cook.
>>565455310This atheists are always good because they're uncorruptible. No matter what, they know the truth and believe in it, unlike all those other guys who only think they know the truth and believe in the wrong thing
the main protagonist of poo2 is sin, you're just a goon following orders and clubbing whoever he tells you to, that's how bad it's gotten
>>565455310truereligion is the cause of all evil in the world
>>565455491>the main protagonist of poo2 is sin, you're just a goon following orders and clubbing whoever he tells you to, that's how bad it's gottenthat's literally the plot of poe1 thoughbeit
>>565455491That was the case in Poe 1, but in Poe 2, the player characters were given distinct personalities and their own backstories.
>>565455902what is exiles backstory
>>565456028MY WIFE IS DEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAD
This dinosaur guy is really annoying. Usually bootlicking isn't so egrigeous.
exile's backstory is trying to find which atlas nodes to take for the highest div/hr
I quit PoE2 on a free weekend after getting to act 2.You need to be born after 2000 to actually play this shit and think it's a good game, i.e. you need to have no frame of reference to better games. Same as thinking Halo was a good game.
>>565456028Each of them has quite a few unique and interesting lines. The druid is probably the most interesting, as he’s literally the last surviving druid, since they all (including him) started serving the King in the Mist. But then, having lost his memory, he finds himself on the Gallows, and you know the rest
>>565456326post ID proving you're born before 2000
>>565456326I got lucky with a good weapon so I lasted until act 4.
>>565456326Are you saying the Kripp days of POE1 were good?
>>565457995www.youtube.com/watch?v=_aP9O0Vnt0c this is what PoE2 should have been
>>565458112People will see this early, unfinished version of PoE1 then go >wow this was such dogshit I'm glad they learned and improved the way in every way imaginablethen they'll see PoE2 0.5 and go>this is surely the finished product and will NEVER be good I hope they abandon it
>>565458112Most skills in POE2 makes combat slow and TTK low. Don't play meta OP shit.
>>565458638Game isn't balanced around using shit skills.Jonatroon expects you to use spark and lightning arrow and cast on crit comet.you will zoom like a 5 year old ADHD kid that just chugged a litre of cola
>>565456326
>>565458898is that mephisto in the middle?
trash of dogshit
>>565458638>Gimp yourself for no good reason because that's funDo you also walk barefoot to make life harder?
Do I get more war plan exp if I do the undercity tribute or can I just speed rush to the end?
>>565459593>that anon shows me making a dogshit melee witch as a good example of what POE2 should beJust giving him the same solution.
>>565459875>anon is a retard and can't understand that the game design was different when that video was recordedsad!
>>565456148>Shaman Ascendancy>Videogame Shamans are historically masters of primal elements>Splash art shows the Druid causing a volcano to erupt>Literally only one volcanic skill, tornado is useless, Apocalypse sucks>spellcasting druid is just spamming fucking invasive species of vines like a fagliterally have never been more disappointed in a class
https://poe2db.tw/us/Atziri#AtziriTextAudioDidn't know atziri fight had so many lines. Probably because she has less hp than a map boss and dies in one hit. Such a shame
>>565446040>Hi im Jonathan Rogers, i heard you wanted swords, so i PERSONALLY designed and coded all the swords skills (which are all parry combos btw)
I am a little bit amazed that no one is mentioning the temple leading up to 0.5. A well set up temple gives you something like 100x (this is not even an exaggerated number) more rewards per hour played than a giga "juiced" end game map. Whats even the point of creating this elaborated endgame atlas system when all you have to do is run this retarded temple. Do they really expect us to do another temple league or whats the big idea here. I want to do maps. GGG promised maps, thats the whole selling point of PoE.
>>565439079Is he right? Yes and no. There are mobs that have cool attacks that make fighting them more interesting than just a monster charging at you and attacking once you're in range.He's right that mobs need more dynamics to their movesets because many are the braindead ai i described above.But he's wrong in making it sound like he wants something like NRFTW in POE2.
>>565461732>no one is mentioning
>>565454346Act 5 is where heist crew returns, it's gonna be kino
>>565461732Temple is fun as fuck. The more you play, the better it becomes. Who doesn't love that?
>>565439678A lot of people left because they finished the game and are waiting for the campaign to be finished before they invest time in it again because of how allconsuming it can become to play.The game launched w 3 acts and poe1 endgame tacked on. So no real endgame and only 3 acts.Expect a huge huge yuuuuge population when this shit goes 1.0 (especially if they finish the campaign and have SWORDS).
>>565461986ah yes ok then how about we 100x the loot in regular maps in order to make it more balanced? mind blowing how you dont see the problem here.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9krBfJxi65I
>>565462163Nah, maps are just a middle step to the end game now. Campaign is the start, map is the middle, temple is the end. No need to buff maps.
>>565461732Don't worry, Tri will fix this.
>>565461732Is this a reddit post copypaste? It reads like one.You got to be incredibly naive and not familiar with GGG to even assume they will let you have temple as is. They obviously fucked up with currency drops, and it was just too late to patch out. You'll see, it will just be atziri farmPoor motherfuckers who got hooked onto easy currency are up to a very rude awakening the next league
>>565462498but they advertise maps as the end game and not temple.
>>565462163Temple will be nerfed since it won't be on every map after 0.5 drops
>>565463048Things changed. Just like 4 month league is now 6 month league.
>>565439079Not a single arpg has monsters with downtime, but somehow only in poe it's a problem?Same thing with item affixes ("+levels/rarity is bad, i want more interesting mods").
>>565462474Why does he talk like such an obnoxious faggot? It's really hard not to hate gay people when they're literally moaning into my ear when all I want to watch is video game shit
>>565463161+levels is bad because if your weapon doesn't have it then the weapon is not worth looking atRarity is bad because if you're not running rarity then you cannot compete in the economy, so only builds that have less gear pressure have a massive advantage over others
>>565439079>Monster openingsCool idea, doesn't exist in a Diablo-like however and it just funnels shit to be the same reactionary dodgeroll slop. If anything, this would just encourage hyper offense setup since>A. You want the attacks to be actually damaging so avoiding it instead of facetanking will be "encouraged">B. With A, you can just spec into movement skills and dump everything else into damageIt's the same soulslike brainrot that's taking over GGG.
>>565463416>can't watch a gay person without imagining them moaning into his ear and pounding his bussy all night longI think you might be in the closet
>>565439079>monsters don't even have any other animation other than run forward and attackAre we the monsters?
>>565463161Coincidentally not a single arpg has actually good combat, so it's actually pretty sensible to identify an issue that's present in all of them
>>565456326true story lol. played that gayass shit three days the weekend it came out and uninstalled
>>565463584>imagining Nice try but he literally fucking moans and drawls. Gay people are vile and obnoxious and so are you for pretending this shit is normal
>>565463627Perhaps but does anyone really complain about that? I don't think people played D2 for more than 2 decades and then went>You know, this could really use more dodging and weaving and rolling
>>565462689Not reddit. Tbf I played the first month even up to 100 but havent tried the temple mechanic even once not even during the campaign. I refuse to partake in certain mechanics if they look unfun. Making them mandatory because of unbalanced rewards is peak retardation. >You got to be incredibly naive and not familiar with GGG to even assume they will let you have temple as is.Usually I would agree with you. I have seen what they are capable of in terms of nerfs but the current people in charge are not the same as the ones in the past. I have no trust in their vision.
>>565463789Methinks this anon doth protest too much
>>565463835It's certainly not a priority in most ARPGs, but PoE 2 definitely set out to have actual good combat no? It's fair to identify the issue there
>>565463429>+levels is bad because if your weapon doesn't have it then the weapon is not worth looking atThere are a lot of affixes, which in absence make a martial weapon not worth looking at (endgame). So? In a minmaxed scenario every single mod is mandatory, the whole premise of mod diversity is a massive fucking self delusion.>Rarity is bad because if you're not running rarity then you cannot compete in the economyIf your idea of competing is stacking a mod that lets you pick up some more currency from the ground, you weren't competing in the first place. Currency drops are not where money at (temple nonwithstanding, since it's an abberation, and it works w/o currency as well). I've spent whole league with 0 (zero) rarity and had no problem running 4 different builds to completion
>>565464190>and it works w/o rarity as wellfix
>>565464053Unless they actually switch to NRFTW level of monster density, the le dark souls combat with monsters backing out and staring at you won't work.
>>565464645There's surely working concepts though, it doesn't have to be souls shit. For example there is a genre of games that has an actual huge focus on meaningful combat with masses of enemies, and it's l4d and it's deriviatives. Look for example at games like Vermintide/Darktide, often praised for the horde combat system. As a quick summary, enemies occupy slots around you. When they're attacking you can interrupt their attacks or dodge the attacks with a sidestep. The actual in effect gameplayi s mostly>hordes swarm you>swing through them like that one sauron clip of him btfoing humans>occasionally have to dodge or push when too many show up >an elite enemy shows up>have to actually dodge, block, avoid his overhead, then punish him You can apply this concept to an ARPG like PoE 2 too I think. Make smaller enemies horde type enemies that are fun to just btfo like now. But then also have meaningful magic/rare enemies that have an actual gameplay rhythm to them and not just souleater.gif
>>565465390>L4D>good combatholy shit actual fucking retard
>>565465552Try reading the words that come after that. I'm not talking about l4d combat, it's what I used to identify the genre. I guess I could've said horde slasher for retards like you, but it sounds retarded (like you)
>>565463851I have no doubt they gut the fuck out of the temple, there's a precedent with homo omen.The fallout will be pretty bad though, too many people are used to 100div per run stuff now
0.4 was awful until some chink loser literally found an exploit and then suddenly it was "good", that's poo2 for youI expect .5 to be better than that, that was pretty bad, they had more time to work this time around
>>565465390>swing through them like that one sauron clip of him btfoing humans>occasionally have to dodge or push when too many show up >an elite enemy shows up>have to actually dodge, block, avoid his overhead, then punish him If GGG actually went with their initial vision of rares having unique moves, it would actually play kind of like that. They just cheaped out and what we have is hordes + occasional turbo boosted mob (that still dies to oneshot lategame)
>>565465763retard
>>565466151>they had more time to work this time aroundI don't think they actually test shit, not for minmaxed scenarios. It somehow always evades them. The best i hope for is a good volume of content
>>565466406They've gone on record as saying they just load in prebuilt characters, run things a couple times, and then call it good enough to ship
>>565466406>>565466151seems kinda reasonable for them to just let people test. It's a paid beta test after all
>>565466838You certainly can look at it like that, yeah. The version number does not really matter though: original harvest wasn't released in a beta, it's just that the testing never ends
>>565079428Small update to my SSF journeyhttps://poe.ninja/poe2/profile/kohd_Sayonara-7623/vaalssf/character/MyOtherBearIsPandaAs you can see i managed to fix my chaos and got some beef on me (not much only 2k hp). Just finished my map atlas (1 unique map left) I have to admit, growing character on my own is SUPER fun and i am learning a lot. All pieces of my current gear were gathered in different ways, some dropped like this some i crafted, talisman was crafted by tuJen and has interesting story>last tujen offer is to remove lowest tier mod>its dexterity>Sure, i dont need that, can exalt force suffix and desecrate force anamu to get global def.>HOLD UP>I actually can use dex, i need 64 to use charge regulation to get some use of my end charges>and since i upgraded my Scepter i can even slot Clarity 1 in it Unironically having tons of fun so far. lord of the wilds is so fucking busted
