The Nightmare is ongoing... >>565343556NEW CODE: CZN0418ARISE - 1000 CrystalsNEW CODE: CZNHALFANNIV - Craft cubeNEW CODE: 2026CZNNEWS2 - You're mum and Crystalshttps://chaoszeronightmare.onstove.com/en/coupon>S3 Patch noteshttps://page.onstove.com/chaoszeronightmare/en/view/13168282>HEIDEMARIE (NEW) Character PV https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jMqkN3am7k>Galactic News Network https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtAVvaVQfHg>Current Featured Banner [Diana] Passion - Hunter | Rate Up Period: 04/08/2026 - 05/05/2026[Heidemarie (LIMITED] Passion - Ranger | Rate Up Period: 04/29/2026 - 05/27/2026>Useful Links and ResourcesNew players guide: https://renoa-love.org/https://rentry.org/xtb66f3ihttps://wiki.e7bot.top/#/czn/combatant>Why didn't my Save Data save properly? https://rentry.co/cznsavedata/>Deckbuilders https://czn-save-cal.web.app/https://wiki.e7bot.top/#/czn/deck-builder
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Magna or Haru selector?
>>565427965For E0? Right now Magna is probably more useful
>>565427965I would pick magna
Sortie is such a garbage mode
>>565425007the only thing I disagree with is I like sortie
>>565427965let me remind all of you once again that both Yuki and Haru are on the lowest tier right now even after buff
All that hype disappeared after 3 days.
>>565404043>spending shop currency on rollsPLEASE tell me none of you actually do this
are they retarded?why would you introduce a Sly keyword in [Quietus] and then not retroactively include it for previous discard cards?
>>565428463It's insanely terrible value, I bought 10 in a fit of retardation and it didn't pay off
>>565428463I did it, never need 5* partners nor dupes so what's the point of hoarding?
>>565427965Haru if getting E2, Magna in all other cases
>>565428271Sortie being time and stamina gated killed the mode...
>>565428694
>>565428516Because they're not Quietus cards?
>>565428789You can't prove me wrong without appealing to emotion
>>565428579you're not rolling partners or dupes how are you outta rolls
How do you know from a glance which partner is for which combatant? I have this brown nig girl in a suit with some bullet buffs... I guess that's for renoa?
Just tried the mode again with +4 modifier. E2 Heide really is broken as fuck. Though I almost died to the last boss anyways because of the RNG dmg immune mobs.
>>565429126I never once mentioned that I ran out of rolls.
dead gameNTE won
>>565429248The ideal build is to clone either the create 2 blade sword rain or linked quietus expansion. The activate all linked cards has too high a cost for it to be good and the upgrade expansion card is useless if you don't have a discarder.
Can't you roll lab0 with season 3 gimmick on in zero system? I want to farm Nia deck with eternal hunger
>>565429141Brown girl is for Luke I think, I forget which bullet partner is for who
>>565428516If we assume they are giga brain and not incompetent, it's so that they can now just make new "keywords" with the same effect in order to obsolete previous ones.
>>565429372You can only get eternal hunger with forbidden tunnels which was S1 gimmick. I don't think it comes up by itself in lab zero.
>>565429341on opposite day
what are some teams that can easily 9/9 nebula, not counting heidemarie.
>>565429248>these tiph cardshuh?
>>565429532Thanks, that sucks.
>>565429372>>565429532it's either or
>>565429617All her basics + form convergence is bad so I removed them all.
>>565429612any strong team wearing this armor 3x
>>565429731>>565429248IDK man i think I'll stick to chaosI almost die to the second camp on HC with MArie and MikaIf Mika doesn't spam heal I just fall over. Then shit like this happens?
>>565430687Actually playing chaos is worthless now since you can freely edit decks with the retarded currency they added, there's no reason to farm or try chaos.Dead fucking trash game
>>565430368ty. is this from seasonal chaos planet?
>>565430891if anything it's worthless playing it to get perfect divines since the divine epi rerollers are cheap and unlimited, it's still worth it to save some items and get the dupes/removals. the items to do them are limited
>>565431049>unlimitedBut it costs 60 stamina to claim rewards from sortie while I can reset chaos for free.
Sortie is gay as fuck with all the buffed multiplierwho asked for this
>>565430901I got it from a shop in seasonal chaos yeah. I don't think it's that rare there, feel like I saw it both of my seasonal chaos runs.
>remove all RNG from chaos, which was fun and manageable>quadruple down and add so much RNG to the "fun" mode that it is just a complete dice rollHey. Lol.
Yeah this shit is trash
>30 stamina for a mode you should be having fun playing everyday
>>565431214Korea deckbuilder gods of course
>>565431539You get 300 stamina each day retard
its 0 stamina if you win btwjust winstop being a fucking jobber
>>565431373>chaos rng>fun and manageableglad I'm not autistic enough to think like this
Hello, I am a returnee. I did manage to grab Heidemarie. What's a good possible team for her? I might be able to grab her partner before the rateup expires but I'm not holding my breath.
>>565431910Nia, Veronica, and Renoa are her best picks of those options.
>>565428516because they know nobody plays this brickpiphany and everyone just plays the upgrade
game is in a pretty good spot now bwos, im having a blast now that i own all characters released so far
>>565429327???so you already have lots of rolls that you aren't using and you're still buying extra from the shop which you will never use because you don't roll partners or dupes??
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SX1Osqa9Hohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9atBUyO0qykhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQ2tAOcH5AwThese fuckers have really nice decks already
>>565432471https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y682jzfztdcThis one too
>>565432054>NiaI can see it>RenoaI used this for the story but I really found them to get in the way of each other more than anything? Also, who's Tiph good for?
>>565432471But doomjeets said you can't build fun decks because of stamina gate?
>>565432573Tiph is good for everyone, especially my face
>>565432592you can.but it's super duper sucks to build deck
>>565432058>Wasting AP on something you can get for free
Here's the best reward from the cursed start in sortie btwAnswer awe inspiring, dark, I don't know
>>565433392I got it too by just picking all the options on the right.
>My unoptimized E2 Heidemarie killed the distortion boss 9/9 on the first tryShe is so fucking broken holy shit
>>565433201>bricking your draws, healing and decibels with thisif you say so
>>565433392there's probably one for each answer combination because yesterday I picked the other option on the last choice and got a Nihilum but pretty sure the effect wasn't this
>>565433673>Not fully drawing your entire deck in a single turn every turnSkill issue, bad deck builder.
So i need E2 Marie to have fun?
>Hei can link Nine hewWTF holy shit FAAAAAAAAA I'm having so much fun with this deck
its over
>>565433835i am doing that though?maybe you aren't since you're running bricks in your deck lmao
>>565434209Who else are you ever going to use your Omega Codes onWait for the next Limited?
Me when I lie
>>565434240You still got to use the Hew card though, so yeah you can have her card linked to her swords but it’s still costing you the AP
D5 30 is too easy brosWhat do i do now
>>565434518What does that mean
>>565434401That'S only E1 :(
>NTE thread is dead and the game was found out having ai slop everywhereuh... czn won? give it to gooks for not resorting to straight up ai slop in game
>>565434750>czn won by not getting any attentionyeah
>>565430687Ye. Some of the new divines really are run killers.
>>565434750We had our own AI slop controversy too.
>>565434750this is the AI slop game
>>565434750Fucking tourist we at /czn/ love AI back in the day we only got AI artist anon making art for CZN.
bros...! e2 is fucking busted in sortie goddamn
>>565435172It's busted outside it too
>>565434750The first NPC you see in this game is generic AI slop. You should be embracing AI, unc.
>>565434750czn is using ai slop too bro
>>565435258>literally the hottest character in the game
Yukibros how are we holding
>whore>hottest
>>565435503Yucky...
What's Reona best deck to go with marie?
>>565435503Yuck
>>565434750TRVKE!Unlike CZN which has zero AI involved
>>565435503Still shitShe needs a rework, specially on her EGO
So when you discard a linked card with a non-linked card like Nia's Adagio, it won't trigger the linked discharge of other card? I am confused
>>565435835Link triggers when you play any linked card not on discard.
>>565435835Linked = When you play this manually you discard the other linkeds.If you discard with something else it doesnt trigger. Unless it specifically says it will trigger on the effect or it has Quietus.
We have tons of non AI art now
>>565436113
Man this shit is lowkey actually kinda busted if you get it with -1 AP or combo it's a free ~8k damage a pop
>>565436627it doesn't consume the swords or anything right?
>>565435503Waiting for buffs...
>>565436879>no hot wheels
I come here with a humble question Is there any in-game art of Nine boxing?
I have a questionIf I run the arena Chaos in Codex Zero do I still get to reroll engravings?
So Nine is worse than Heide now?
How many nodes should you have to realistically beat lv5 sortie? I went in with 25% unlocked and got raped in the depths 3 times.
>>565437037If you run the arena there's no Persona cards or engravings. You should be able to find S2 Arena affixes on equipment though
Where's the PVP at?
>>565437023Not that I know of
>>565437037>>565437182I think she meant the gear engravings, I don't know either
>>565436113>tons
>>565437423Shame, saw there's a gym picture and was hoping there was more
>>565437037>>565437464>sheYes you can reroll the engravings even in different Chaos
>>565436712Yeah
>>565437519kek
I died at a fucking event node since I failed a dice roll and it spawns these 3 flying overpowered things that just one shot you from 1.8k HAHAHAHAHA FUCK SORTIE
Sortie costing stamina to enter was a mistake.
>>565437681jamhax...
>>565435258Proof?
>>565437681oh I know that oneyou got greedy
>>565437112Yes? How's that even a question
jamhax...
>>565437681jamboy...
I should use a chinese or jap name so people can't type it
>>565437681Goddamn, you're getting jammed up.
>>565437681
>>565437681humiliation ritual
Is Ivy good for anyone but Rita? Or just E1 my existing one?
>>565438367>>565438632Thanks, now I'm less mad
https://files.catbox.moe/rb5w6x.png
>finish the discount partner banner>roll fucking BriaBro, I don't wanna build Gayron's purple ass.
dead thread NTE won bigly
I know invested people are bitching about optimization but from a new player perspective I have to say czn is very fun. I like that the characters all have their own gameplay (Rin is selfish attacks, Yuki is draw manip, Heide is discard, etc.) and it makes doing runs fun to play compared to most gachas. Every new character is a new build to try.
>>565438635Kayron maybe if i'm reading the ego skill right. You could still just swap her around though i guess.
I did the autochaos and died wtf. Just let me take the wheel when that happens.
>>565440758this has happened to me twice in four autochaos runs, it barely seems to happen to other people so there's no one talking about it.
Who wants their partner more, Nine or Rita? Trying to decide who to use the selector on once I get it.
>>565440541It's the only gacha where I feel compelled to roll on every new banner because of that reason. Sortie only reinforced it.
>>565440183Why did you do that?>>565440874ye I skipped Nine and Serenial
>>565440541Compared to most other gacha games, pulling new characters here is actually fun since you get a new set of cards to play around. That you can combo off with your other characters for fun interactions.On other gachas i just roll for the new thing because it's new then the only thing i can do with the new character is perform their optimal rotation on the usual timed challenge bosses and watch their cool animations.
>>565441015I had a Nine Veronica Tiphera run and an E2 heidemarie Diana Nia run fail so I truly don't understand it, it seems to happen a lot no matter what your team is and nobody seems to care
>>565440541>I'm having funfuck you
Damn the powercreep is insaneNow Sereneil and Nein are useless
>>565440935it doesn't matter who you own for sortie, it's actually better NOT to own the character because they get upleveled
no memory fragment stats in SortieSo whats my Crit rate? 0%? lmao
>>565441501gooks need to make money and limited is the safe way to do it without immense powercreep backlash.
I STILL CAN'T 9/9 FULL SCALE OFFENSIVE
Bro its easy just use Tressa Cassius Mika
>>565441790No lol It's the opposite
>>565433647worthless and benched as soon as the season is over
>>565441501Next season the boss will have "linkbreaker" which breaks linked cards from working at the start of the battle
>E2>omg why is she so brokendamn gachabrains are so simple
>heidemarie and sylvia are dyke loversSo much for this being an ML game lmao, guess they saw snowbreak dying and decided the male audience has no power or sway anymore
full purple bar
Is the max cap still 180 with deck edit items?
>>565442985yeah it's pretty obnoxious, i think they're liking copying nikke instead since it's full yuri now
>>565443308Yes
>>565443402If i finish a 150 cap chaos, can I edit up to 180 or does it stay at 150?
>>565440758Do you want the control back when you are about to get the last hit?
why are the enemies sprite so low quality?
His izzat must be running low.
>>565443502Curious about this too.Is the cap even a thing when you use currency?
remember when meilin was the goat of passion?
We are so fucking back
>>565442985game has always been yuri, Yuki and her dead protoss lover from s1, Nine and Alcea etc
>>565443762Elasticity is a mistake. Then they decide to make her shit in sortie too with dogshit fates.
>>565443502>>565443754You can edit up to 180 on any save data
>>565443762I'm pretty sure she still is... As long as there is no elasticity involved (a.k.a. shilling).
What does>common cardmean exactly? Neutral or white rarity?
>>565443859They are all yuri except for (You), anon.
>>565443854Where's the full chart?
>>565444026I think it means anyone can have this in the deck. You can put this card on Heidemarie/Renoa/Diana's.
>>565444026Treated like a neutral
Why the fuck did Heide not get a trauma code for her backstory? These garbage unvoiced limited time events are so much worse
>>565444026Commons are neutrals
I love this season's neutral cards art
>Yuri shit postingreally? can't you guys think of something new this Yuri shit is practically dead
the linked effect on the cards is sick as fuck
you knew this was good the second you saw it, right? you're not bad at card games?
Threadly reminder that the Delegate mode tickets have a expiration date so use them before 2 weeks
>>565445627My nia draws my whole deck
>>565445627My Heide only needs to play one card.
>>565443854So little compared to what Sereniel made I don't get why they got so tame with the fan service when the most sexualized girl was their most successful banner
>>565445627I actually saw the AP oneThey don't have Unique but they do stack, right?
>>565443854That's less than 1/5 of Yuki
POV: atashi no kimochi
>>565443854Eh, it's okay.
Damn, I really want to E2 Marie, but if I go chasing a dupes I'm definitely not gonna have the resources to pull for Adelheid. Guess I'll have to wait until her kit reveal to decide. I doubt she'll be as good as a Limited, but I like Nursery Rhyme and I don't mind using a Diet Coke Nursery in a much better game.
>>565447471time to use your gacha currency
>>565447471>I doubt she'll be as good as a LimitedUsually in gachas supports are beyond brokenTiph is godlike and better Mika already
>>565447471Use it
>>565443637No just reset the fight and let me manual
>>565445627Imagine if it was Quietus too
>>565446797
>>565447047Its a bigger number thats what matters. Also gives me hopium for the post half anni newcutie flood chart
>>565443854Grim.
>>565445710The auto chaos item? I thought you just get one a day
>>565448620You got some extra as a reward
i am having fun
funnythis is an Exhaust 2 by defaultthe effect below says "Add Exhaust to the card" and it brought it to Exhaust 3, making it stronger
>>565443854>mobile>globalYou must have severe brain damage if you take this serious in any way
>>565445627Yeah
>>565449118FACT all of us use Stove
I CANT BEAT THE NEBULA BOSS FUCK ME
>>565449118>mei lin (x)>incredibly retarded post
>>565449462Just use Heidemarie lol, free 9/9 with her
>>565449349Well yeah Stove is much cheaper for EU since you get the $ prices and you pay in $ which get's converted to € by Paypal
>>565449609not true i died with her vs the 6/9
>auto can failare these niggers serious
>>565443854 Heidemarie flopped bigly
>
>>565447471
>>565450489>SAO collab>easy 5 millionsCZN should collab with SAO
>>565440758>>565440874It was happening to me until I slapped Nine into the teams and now it magically doesn't.Pretty sure what it's actually doing is starting a chaos and instantly calculating the result of what would happen in it if you full auto'd the entire fight then moving on to the next node and repeat.So to minimize the odds or chances of your auto runs failing, you want characters that are good at auto battle and don't want any charas that are bad at auto. If there's even the smallest chance the autobattle AI can fuck up the characters gameplan or rotation then don't bring them.
Do you guys get good decks with the auto mode? Or what is it good for? Got 6 tickets from the event thingy
>>565451572Good decks or not is up to luck since the AI compresses all possible paths down to one but yes I have gotten pretty good decks with it. I've noticed that the odds of getting epiphanies is pretty damn low on auto though, not uncommon for charas to be missing whole cards by the end of it.
>>565451572I got this one from auto, I don't know maybe it's just my bias but the divine epi rarely proc on auto.
>>565451572you can get decent decks to fix with the sortie edits
>>565451572>6Where
wait auto mode only works when you cleared a chaos?
>>565451572Not yet. I've failed runs on auto already which is horse shit. But I'm now after something only 120 pts so I can delegate runs on T10+ just to fish for this. Missing the discard 2 persona card since I can't find it in the deckbuilder tool, but I'm basically looking to use this with Tiph for giant nuke, sword rain is there for AoE option on daily sweeps if I want it.
>>565451716Yeah I did 2 and in one run it went to literally 10 or so campfires and I didn't have any credits.>>565451880Yeah you posted this last thread right? That one is crazy good for auto.>>565452102I can't find the thing it was like 4 reward stages or 3 and the last one was 6 tickets
>>565452674Yes, you need to clear the dif before you can use it
>>565452102>>565452990It might be the sortie preparation event. I have that cleared
>>565448382kek
>>565451572Got this today on auto
>>565449064wait is that permanent?
>>565453790JESAS
>Diana is gay>Heidemarie is gayuhhhh bros?
>>565454036all women are Bisexual
>>565454036I want to watch them lezzing out
>>565443854>release OP limited that kill everything with 1/2 cards>revenue is 1/5 of yuki>less than 1/5 of serenieleveryone left this game lmao
Anything particularly spicy in the tiers below? I'm thinking of focusing on base stats first.Also Jesus what do you mean you need 30k for everything, you get like 500 each run spending 180 stamina.
>>565454517a run costs 30 stam and you get it back?
>>565454613actually getting the metaprog rewards costs 60*3 = 180 per run
>>565453790Use the remove edit for that basic heal and change tactical analysis to upgrade versionDamn I'm jelly, that deck could last till EoS. Unless that save data is capped at 140
>>565454517have you tried winning your runs?
>>565454768Any save data you edit has 180 cap as if it was a t16. Unless you ask that guy from a few threads ago who had a 200 point save data he never showed.
Damn Heidemarie has too many OP combo
>>565454685You mean the brain thingy?
>>565454835>Any save data you edit has 180 cap as if it was a t16.WTF that's broken asf literally we can built our own deck manually>guy from a few threads ago who had a 200 point save data he never showed.Oh shit do you guys remember the save data bug from diff 5 back in early days? Does someone still have them and can you edit that save data?
>>565454790> 80 for the whole runYeah you go do your 400 runs without spending stamina for 30k metaprog materials>>565454925You can substitute 60 stamina for one of that, hence 180 stamina per run
Dumb and stinky newbro here. I want to roll for Diana...but I heard Heidy doesn't even need her?
>>565454517I've been focusing this but haven't gotten to T3 yet. T2 is pretty bad (and expensive), so you're probably better off going for stats for now.
>>565454790>80 matsnice only 374 more runs to go.
>>565455257Just wait for your daily 10 rolls to finishI got her from standard banner
>>565455334Wait Diana is on the standard banner already???
>>565455257do you find yourself needing diana when you play heidemarie?
My Nia is not healing bros... I failed to build
>>565455105None of them survived. They all got trimmed down to below 170
>>565455393yes
>>565454312idk how you even start playing now. you cant even do tier 5s until you're level 50 two months away. every character requires two weeks of potentials. the game systems are incredibly complicated and punishing. sortie asks you to be familiar with every character in the game. its just too much their retention has to be like zero at this point.
>>565454768why would i change it to upgrade? it loses its draw epi2 waves from tac + 1 from deluge is 1 extra ap every turn
why do none of my characters deal any damage in Sortie
>>565455434But doesn't Diana discard synergize well with her?
>saar im very concerned game not good revenue not goodbtw that revenue isn't showing the heidemarie banner
>Selena just became the turbo FOTM the third season in a rowBunny breeders eating good
>>565455974qrd?
rabbits are whores
I been busy with work and havent run a Sortie yet.So whats the concensus? How do /we/ feel about them?Sneed it or keep it?
>>565453090well that's annoying since all the chaos I cleared before the update aren't letting auto them
>>565455747None of this is true. But at least your Izzat is recharged
>>565443854NTEGODS and mongols... have mercy...
>>565456046Sproots nightmare newest deck or WG video
>>565456226Would be good if there would be no stamina needed for entry.
>>565456226Its shitInstead of making it randomize and fun they just buffed everything all over the place and added tons of random mechanics like millions of fates/equipments. It doesn't even feel like the same game anymore
>>565456270wtf does that post have to do with izzat
>>565456226We are still in the honeymoon phase
>>565455257No, she does not need her
>>565456226the first actual fun I've had since kentris. will probably get stale but enjoy it while its good.
>>565455221>You can substitute 60 stamina for one of that, hence 180 stamina per runYes but that is not the entry cost what are you even saying.Stop ragebaiting.That's like saying a chaos costs 240 stam since you need to buy the fucking 4 tickets every chaos.
I fucking hate the brick epiphanies in Sortie if you want to nerf my cards add a god that is the "nerf" epiphany guy not that I get a divine expecting a reward and get fucked
>>565456384I didnt even notice it cost stammy>>565456408But isnt random like the whole point of r*guelites?>>565456449At least ur having fun right?>>565456619Whst is Kentris??
>>565457079>But isnt random like the whole point of r*guelites?This thread is a parody
>>565457186Im retarded rbh, so lay it on me like im indian
[Good News] czn beat morimens yet again
heidemarie is certainly thousand times better than serenniel e0
what the heck is morimens
Last place but we are in the charts :)
>>565457405Damn this game used to mog zzzNow it's fighting fucking morimensWhat went wrong?
>>565457845nyo
>>565457925CZN will mog ZZZ next month
>>565455962Somewhat but Nia is way better for that and the problem with Diana + Heide is both clog up your hand. It can work decently if you do something like graveyard sword rain Heide but that works as a subdps on any team
>>565456226Needs some work. Stamina entry fee is dumb and disencourages higher difficulty runs. It has potential, but it's not very good yet.
>>565455974she is not surviving this one, Terresa is calling
which card do I dupe on Nia for Heide? Adagio?
>>565458776Also, they should get rid of the stupid "claim three per day" thing. I don't want to play this shit everyday or only play it once when I have time. Just put a limit on the store and automatically reward the currency when you beat the floors. The fun mode shouldn't have to be a daily task.
>>565458940adagio discard 1 draw 2 combatant cards
>>565457305If you look anywhere else, the feedback is very positive
>>565443854grim...
>>565443854Trickcal won
Why do i need Nia it doesn't work for linked discard
>>565443854The way smilegate was wording it's 2025 revenue report they did not expect to make $25m in the first 3 months after release.Btw what were the numbers from that site for October, November, December?
>>565459897you could make this deck for example
>>565447471She’s going to be for Magna users.A counterattack support slut.You’re all going to have to apologize to magna for all the shit you’ve said about her being the worst
>>565459919we need Yuki SP to save the game
>>565459897discard Marie's unplayable for stacks or her Quietus cards that don't have Linked
>>565458776>stamina entry fee is dumbFound the shitter that would reroll at the very start for an hour straight to get the best fate/beginner companion at the start.No the stamina entry fee is amazing go fuck yourself and you’re refunded it for beating it anyway so, unless you’re fucking dogshit it shouldn’t be an issue.
>retard avatarfag has the worst opinions again
Im having fun
2026 OutlookTo drive a recovery, the company is focusing on a next-generation lineup for the second half of 2026, including:Lost Ark MobileEclipse: The AwakeningMiraesi: Invisible Future
>>565460978
I'll rather do chaos than sortieKinda grim
what the fuck narja is really good?I took her in sortie because she was the only healer offered and she carried the entire fucking run easily
>>565460379Holy fuck, how did Yuki manage to convince so many people to roll for her.
>>565461528I don't understand why but my characters deal no damage or heal for 0 in Sortie
OK I'LL GET E2 THEN I AM DONE LOSING SORTIE AND I WILL POST MY NEXT RUN
>>565461528I think sortie has some sort of hidden bonus for defense based damage or perhaps certain characters like Narja and Magna are set to higher stats for whatever reason. Ive noticed they both often do as much of not more than some of my damage dealers.
>>565461919REEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>565461607Because you don't have memory fragments so your damage numbers are much smaller and crits happen less frequently. Of course if you haven't leveled the character with a partner and get a syncronized char, they are even weaker. The mode really rewards for having the correct partner and having ego manifests because those do apply for everyone
>>565427837Sex the mayor
>>565462085
Why is she so smug?
You guys are missing out on the Heide-Rita interactionI'll just say Rita has an epiphany that gives her chronicles when you discard a card, quietus works
>>565462140Is she grabbing my dick
>>565462082Yeah, Narja got two of these with epiphanies and she was the damage dealer. Crazy shit.
>>565462207i was thinking about testing that, might be better than heide-diana honestly
Why does it let me use this when I have no AP? I borrowed her for Sortie so no idea what I'm doing
>>565462219yeah, it’s rude to just stand at the side of the pool with an erection
>>565462207can you give me a deck?
>>565462413You have her E2?>Changes Anchor Shot to be usable even if Cost is insufficient.>The Anchor Shot card used through this effect will consume all remaining AP, and for each 1 AP spent less than the original Cost, decrease Damage Amount by 40%.
>>565461607The hard-core version reduces healing and shields over time, and the healing cards you get in the mode are heavily buffed, so you need to buy those a lot.
>>565462931Oh interesting. I assumed borrowed characters were E0 but I guess not.
>>565462248The 2 cost upgrade that gives +200% damage is insane if it lands on that card. She just nukes most mobs. The massive card buffs are fun to toy with, but it also makes me wish some combatants had more support for alternate playstyles. Offensive narja is fun in sortie.
Reminder to feed your Narja before she eats you
>>565464003Ok
I'm not into vore
>>565464326I'll feed her my dick
>>565445627OK IMPORTANT: IF I HAVE THIS ON VERONIGA AND MARIE USES THE LINKED CARD DOES IT PROC?
>>565464763I think it should
we can all agree limited powercreep is way too much?
>>565464958Ty, hope it works.Pretty good for a skip deck, would need some editing but great overall
Nyo
>>565465517Aaaaieee I just noticed my trinket...
>>565438953What was it
>>565465720https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/144214229
will the CA trigger on every hit?
>>565443854HAHAHAHA NTE WON BIGLYCZN IN THE TOILET
>>565466696It doesn't really say the CAs are based on hits so I think it'll just be a single CA.
Game is dead and there isn't enough copium to make believe otherwise. For Christ sake we're just above e7 in revenue, fucking e7
>anniversary patch with no increase in revenue Lol....
>>565467243>>565467354W-what killed the Kaosu Zero Naitomea..?
They have arrived
was NTE so shit the Indians are back?
>>565456382>WG videookay he just let everyone know about the Hugo bug, it's overGet your tower 150 and 9/9 before it's gone
I'm having fun
>>565467580Deezu nuttsu
Vmgeets are angry that we had a good thread for once
First 50/50 loss was Rita Repulsa (new) yay.Second 50/50 loss at spark point was Kayron from Epic seven (dupe) not yay.
>>565466696One time only as you play the card
>>565467675That is forbidden.
>>565467819As for me, I lose 50/50 twice to fucking Haru
>>565467962
failed 2 sweep runsfuck me dude do i need to E2 Marie or what? she carry hugo
>>565467819>>565467962Narja and Hugo have been the ones spooking my rolls.
I will not participate in Sortie until they remove the stamina entry fee.
>>565468461you don't even play this game tho
Sortie has some really fucking overtuned final bosses with the gayest gimmicks
>>565468461Just win, bro, and it gets refunded.
>>565468461total skill issue
>Farmed a deck for Diana for a few hours yesterday.>Got bored and farmed a deck for Heid yesterday too.>Log into the game today and saw my Heid deck with Second Method >Was pretty happy yesterday because I got 0 cost Sword Rain on itGuess I turned my brain off after hours of grinding and forgot I was farming for Heid and not Diana yesterday. Can the deck fixing thing from Sortie change gear too?
Sortie should be renamed to simulated universe bro
>>565469001Simulated universe is free though
>>565469001I would have just called it Extreme Chaos or Super Chaos 2.
>>565469126electric boogaloo
Crazy how you can tell when the local shitskin wakes up and starts spamming the same rehashed shitposts
>>565469001But they specifically said its supposed to not be simulated.
>>565468991Sortie items can change the shittiest cards to godlike flawless cards but they can't change equips so it means you might want to focus getting perfect equips and fix the cards later
>>565462207>>565462342Heide Rita/Bunny/Hugo literally mogs DianaThe devs are probably seething at the 60 followup attack build with the furries, nobody is going to roll Diana now
So far I'm breezing through the game, which is not shocking since its early game, but I wonder if the game is balanced enough that I can actually beat it with "my favorites" or if in true gacha fashion you're fighting an uphill battle if you don't roll for the shiny new toy 6 times and uncap her max power so you actually win
>>565469001Yeah the name is weird
SHOULD I ROLL DISCOUNT PARTNER BANNER??
>>565469001Don't know why they didn't stick with Chaos Assault
>>565469908People are clearing all content with 4* characters with 3* partners for max rewards.A good deck can surpass anything.You just need the skill to build decks for specific situations since you won't find it on regular guide sites.
>>565468190Marie failed twice meanwhile Nine raped it, truly the strongest and the hottest
>>565469908That depends what your definition of "beating" is.If you want shiny stickers you will need to play meta stuff and the shiny new toys, yes.
>>565468190I'm doing VIII T15s and i fail like half of them, looks like it's mental breaks that fails the run
What happens here?
>>565468461Only an issue if you lose your run before the first boss and that only happens if you have no idea what you're doing. Each boss you beat refunds 10 stamina, with all three bosses it's a sum zero entry fee when you win. The mode isn't really worth spamming unless you have 150-210 stamina in the bank to burn as well.>>565469948No, unless you're happy with any outcome and most of the characters are shit. Odds of hitting something usable is very low.
Apparently sortie sound cooler in KR because it mean deployed/campaign and KR have mandatory military service
WTF DO I BUILD ON DIANA
>>565470420It draws 4, watch newest WG videoThe quietus discard persona effect is by far the best
>>565470564You didn't get the memo? She's not good. Don't use her anymore.
>>565470420If discarded Draw 4 and 2 100% coordinated attacks for each attack card drawn. If played by hand Draw 2 and 1 etc.
>>565468461>sortie IV was easy and still got nerfed and he stil can't beat ityou are just bad at deckbuilders at this point and want everything handed to you lol
>>565470564>build>dianaYou build Hugo and Selena if you want masters in the rift
>>565470478It's a roguelike mode with optional debuff modifiers you should slowly progress over time.With the stamina cost I will just do 1 weekly safe lvl 65 run to burn the tokens and not bother with it since I will rather use the stamina to build other characters or farm memory frags.It completely defeats the original purpose which should be doing runs on increasing difficulty and experimenting with different synergies.
>>565470584>>565470639I'm ready for the rift
>>565470073On the topic of deck building, should my goal be to make *A* deck for that character or should I aim to build a deck specifically for X content?Do I actually get that much control over the deck I build in chaos runs in higher levels? Right now it feels kinda hard to make a really focused deck for a character (I tried to make a deck for Veronica where I got multiple Respites, but I feel like I still ended up with a bunch of stuff in the deck I didn't care about)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhQoihyPhUo
>>565471026Content that requires a specific deck is just the Tower and Great Rift if you want to be top 1%>Do I actually get that much control over the deck I build in chaos runs in higher levels?More than higher levels, with all the upgrades unlock. And the answer is yes.Sometimes you will be unlucky, reroll a card 50 times and never find the epi you want but there are save data edit items too now
how long until daily reset?
>>5654712917 min
>>5654712917 minutes
>Holding like 6 quietus cards on hand>Use one of then>6 cards resolve on their own and nuke everythingOk maybe Heidemarie is fun? Shame that my rolls are being saved for Adelheid and my cores are for Luche
>>565471016Faceless woman feels like bait, because once you don't want to link the card which plays 5 swords in the graveyard since it's not quietus, leaving you with not many cards to link.I think the top scorers will get a seasonal deck from the blue chaos and get the dominion card, 2 morale per turn or something similar. Morale stacks the best with followup attacks so 2x dominions on supports with draw divines on Marie will probably be the best
>>565471321>>565471326ty
>>565471026>or should I aim to build a deck specifically for X contentYes.>Do I actually get that much control over the deck I build in chaos runs in higher levels?Yes, in higher tiers you get more save data cap, up to 180 so you can fit and do more.You shouldn't worry about it until you can finish level 80 Chaos
>>565471026>Do I actually get that much control over the deck I build in chaos runs in higher levels?Once you unlock all zero system upgrades it's very easy to build a good deck.The only more RNG stuff is getting the right epi of a card you want to duplicate before first boss.Focus on making general decks first and then progress to specialized ones for event medals or tower if you will have problems clearing.
>>565471349ATASHI NO KIMOCH-ATASHI NO KIMOCH-ATASHI NO KIMOCH-
>>565460804Nobody takes his opinions seriously, you don't even need to address the nigger-loving trash poster.
There should be crystal rewards for filling the archive with cards
>>565471729jesus bro
>>565471885It's true. He's an avatarfag famous for hanging around on trash and blacked threads. Probably friends with the faggot mods since they never ban his ass.
>>565471885He's not wrong thoughThat creature has been doxed across 5 generals and is probably the only confirmed tranny that bragged about having gay sex with anons on /trash/
Bros, she is E3 already and I didn't pull her on her banner...
>>565470882It's risking 30 stamina to reward for more efficient stamina spending. Black mass shop generally returns more simulation material than doing simulation and the gap gets wider with every difficulty increase and currently shilled character (drafted combatants that change every 4 weeks) you pick for your team. That new monthly $5 sub has a base 20% increase on stamina returns before these multipliers or top difficulty risk factors. Example data: https://www.reddit.com/r/ChaosZeroNightmare/comments/1t0izoy/sortie_is_now_by_far_the_most_efficient_stamina/tl;dr Take potential crystals as an example run. You start with Heide and take Khalipe Nia, so 3 of 4 potential increases to your black mass gain just from combatants. If this was a 65 normal run you're getting 99% potential crystal rewards compared to running sims. 80 normal is 110% of normal sims, 65 hardcore is 118%, 80 hardcore is 130% just in black mass converted back into potential crystals. Bonus, you can just sit on black mass and spend it on demand on what you need to the precise amount required. You're basically banking stamina for later when you have time.
What do you people pick here?
I dodged luke for months>lose my 50/50 on Marie to him>get him again from the free 10 pullsthey rigged my account what do i do now?
>>565472232Only 3 more copies and 6 buff patches until she can be useful on Basin.
Does Rescue have a fakeout where the bitch doesn't look up?
>>565472368left left right gave me the big titty god with a 0 cost draw 2 thing which was universally useful. I've only done like 5 runs but I remember that much.
>>565472568I always only look if the screen glitched and then skip.
>>565472368I think each option branches off to a unique fate at the end
>>565472806Yeah, all left is diallos that gives shield stuffLeft left right gives you Kyrken like >>565472718 just saidI imagine there's a combination for every god but the database hasn't updated with sortie events yet
>>565472368>>565472368Full left gave me the green deer. Full right gave me the dark chaos eater thing. I went left left right and still got the deer. All 3 times gave different bosses. Don't know if the bosses in the 3rd area is random or because of the choices I made.
Someone keeps telling me that NTE is really, really fucking good and they are addicted to it.What the fuck, should I get on NTE, lets be honest czn will never compare to a full fledged 3d game.
>>565472985Yes you should
>>565472329>risk of losing everything if you get fucked by RNG>30+ minutes runsIt's efficient on paper, but not reality.
>Kyrken gives you basically better Sneko eye>If you have nine on hand then all her hews are 0-2 cost maxholy shit this is hilarious
I just leveled Cassius back up
>>565472985yes
>>565473130The other option is to run 100 stam sim, hit hew and log off. It depends on if you have the time and patience for bigger rewards.
Selena is actually stronger than Hugo with Heide
>>565473405she hits way more but I'm not sure about total damage
So cute
>>565472985it takes 5 minutes to figure out what NTE is aboutchink tier GTA overworld and minigames with swap slop combat, janky animations and ai slop assets from the developers of Tower of Fantasy the game with most egregious powercreep in recent memory.If you enjoy that then go for it. Enjoy the honeymoon phase
EVERY FUCKING DAY
>>565473405My Selena is already married to SerenielTime to build the knot
>>565473650you are supposed to tell him to go away with nte
Veronica game. Veronica world.
>>565473202I got an always crits epiphany on nine's hew during sortie, but once it went past the first stage it would lose the divine epiphany. Is that not intended,
>steam is bad for gacha
>>565473405Couldn't both just shred everything?
>>565474007speaking of, this is the most broken card in the game nowit draws 2 cards + a repose, so you just cycle your entire deck everytime
>>565474068How the fuck is shitdownverse in the top 4??
Just add 2 free sortie runs per day like there are 2 free zero system merges per day.
65 HC or 80 non-HC Sortie. What gives more currency / how do they compare difficulty wise?I've been doing 80 non-HC with no modifiers, and I almost die to buffed elites too often to consider 80 HC yet.
>>565474125This gotta be a bug
The game looks better now? Like higher resolution?
Is it possible to temporarily leave Sortie at waypoints just like you can leave chaos at waypoints or after exterior bosses? I'd like to start my first run but I don't want to spend an hour on it.
>>565474314It isn't, but the gookdevs will fix because they hate fun. Also, I love how all the new updates work as a beta test because the retards themselves have no idea how to balance the game.
I got this which is literally just Sneko eye and it lands on 0-cost a lot so you can just use Nine hews back to backIf it lands on Heide cards then you can just go through your entire deck pretty easily too since her stuff usually has drawReally, REALLY good and lets you shit on the final boss with ease.
Who will it be????
>>565474493No, the teleporters are replaced with pirate ships that just give items.
>>56547427965 HC gives 400 more currency if you claim every single time and its much easier than 8080 can end your run if you get beelined into one of the fucked up Elites
>>565474635Meant to quote>>565474050No idea why it fell off
>>565474708So it's all or nothing? Fuck me. Thanks, I'll do it tomorrow, then.
>>565474493u can stop after a boss
What does hardcore mode in Sortie give me
>>565474215No idea here's the currenthttps://store.steampowered.com/charts/topselling/globalWhere Wind Meets makes a shitton on steam too
>>565474708those 10 free pulls are a scam. got a single fucking carrot
Got her E2 today from my free rollsIs she good after buffs or is she still only good for her tits?
FUCK
>>565474504I don't think you can test all the combinations, it is expected that players break roguelikes
>>565474982Haru is great>>565475079oh no no no
>>565474857You can alt+F4 and when you launch the game have the option to continue or abondon.
>>565474689Lucas
Nice, never got two 5 stars on one roll before. Brings them both up to E2 which... doesn't help Mei Lin at all. Still nice.
>>565474068They have a fucking mecha fight. I don't really care about Wuwa (or any open word mobage), but that's pretty cool.
>>565474982Haru was already good before the buffs, she's gooder now
>>565474892>>565475172Good enough, thanks a lot.
>>565475197you forgot to censor your name you total mungoloid
>>565475185Dogshit
>>565475342what the fuck gimme that
>>565475239>>565475169Yeah but is she currently great for this season? Any decks or showcases?
>Everyone has every single 5* in the game alreadyhow the fuck does this game make any money lol
Day one player here.I STILL don't have every single 5* in the game.No Haru and no Yuki.
>>565474504If you think the issue is anything other than the content release schedule you don't know how balance works in games like this.
>>565475457Dupes? Stamina? Game just being generally good and fun? It's basically just slay the spire with cute girls and zero (0) other gachas have this gameplay or niche
>>565475630The only other game in the space right now is Morimens and they're doing worse than us after their own anniversary patch AND pitybaiting the player base with an EOS threat
I'm bricked up and about to buy the $50 pack
>>565475457I buy the monthly pass. I'm basically funding this game by myself.
>>565476063good
Is Heidi strong now?
Sortie is really good, they seriously nailed it.Mode is hard as balls and you can use characters you don't own so you can learn how to use characters in a trial by fire situation. Pretty nice.
>>565476202pretty much broken atm with selena/hugo
>>565476190You were supposed to say: Do not do it. Please?
So I got her from my first 70 standard pulls, is she good?
They should add a stamina cost for every rift attempt too.
>>565476474Shes been buffed twice.
>>565476421You should do it and get Marie E2She's limited too!
>>565476474....
>>565476474>is she good?
>>565476474Yes but only for sex
>>565476474Only for this
>>565476474>>565476649>>565476724>>565476759>>565476803Yuki can do infinite DPS now with this card and this divinedraws itself forever and costs 0 AP
>>565476474She's the highest selling non limited unit in the game.She sold more than double or even triple or quadruple that of other released characters.
>>565476870she won...
>>565476870You can't draw used cards...
They should give 5-star partners cutscenes. Then I'd feel a lot more desire to collect them all.
>>5654769814 copies anon, just keep drawing and have veronica and Nia to cycle your deck
Hi! I just started your game, it's really flashy and fun! Reminds me of STS and Darkest Dungeon. With the half anniversary going on, is there a good team I should try and put together? Probably not gonna spend much outside a BP.
>>565476870
>>565455974What's the build this time
>>565477319Try to get Veronica from the beginners banner or the selective bannerConsider rerolling for Heidemarie for a much better experienceIf you have those two characters then you can probably just cruise the rest of the season
>>565477319>Probably not gonna spend much outside a BP.BP is a scam, buy the daily gems ticket insteadPost your roster
>>565477391>>565471016
i have E4 of this nigger, why is his stacks stuck at 5 instead of 6?
>>565476870>>565477146>All these song a dance with a specific divine for 4x 274% dmg = 1096%>Meanwhile Hew Massacre with 3 fighting spirit>576%+696%+840% = 2112%
>>565476649>>565476724>>565476759>>565476803So I guess I should wait until I get another 70 standard pulls before using the selector and redeem the 20 reroll banner?Who should I get with the selector?
>>565477319BP is great do not listen to this guy >>565477481
>>565477612you need to use his ult
>>565477146So you will do 4*274% damage...Nine will do way more with 2 massacre hews alone.
>>565477636It's another newcutie...Yes you should wait with the selector until you got the 20 more rolls at least.You should get pic related
>>565475283Why would I?
>>565477635you literally can't abuse hew massacre like that though, it'll always cost AP
she won
>>565478068Bro did you ask Chipon for permission to post that here?
dunno if posted
BWOS I AM COMPLETELY STUNLOCKED DO I REALLY PURCHASE THE FIFTY FUCKING DOLLAR PACK TO GET MARIE TO E2
>>565434750What is bro talking about? Are there really people who can’t tell that this game heavily uses AI sloppa assets at first glance? I noticed it day 1 and made my peace by really not giving a shit because I make AI sloppa myself.
>>565478434just use your omegacodes bro lolor get the dupe from the shop lol
>>565478434we're getting an ego upgrade thing in the next patch, retard
>>565478492I will do the first but still need another one, only have 300 swirly shit
>>565478434no they'll just change up the buffs so she's terrible next season
>>565477963Yes I have Veronica ready to be selected.I'm just wondering who to pick with the 3rd day half anniv selector.
>>565477636Yeah wait for the free standard pulls before redeeming anything. Assuming you don't get them elsewhere, your best picks are Veronica (reroll banner) and Nine (selector).
>>565475595I known they could make official beta tests and prevent this shit, dumbass.
>>565478434If you can afford it then there is ZERO reason not to do it since it makes her a ton better and you're gonna be using her all season
>>565478525WHEN?? SORTIE IS NOW!!!!
Yes just whale for e6 we need the money
>>565478662Is this game in EoS territory?
i want to fuck it.
>>565478434Our revenue was only $2 million last month, please buy the $50 pack !
Yeah I take back the bad things I said about HeidemarieI'm really having a ton of fun with her in Sortie
My Marie is a street celebrity...
so hugo is fucking broken now??
>>565462140Horrible lobby
>>565478434>everyone blowing their loads on the limitedHeh, guess I'll be one of the few who will get the new loli support.Sucks for you losers.
>>565479987loli is a bit too cookie cutter for me, I'll wait for tenebria
Last 2 un-owned combatantsWho do I get?
>>565479864What are you expecting?
>>565479613Ermm bwo? Why do you have 2 DPS in your team? Your cards gonna get clogged.
>>565478952
>>565480061Right now? Hugo. He's really good with Heidemarie. Khalipe lost her Chaos dogwalker role to Nine.
>>565478558Nine, TiphThis list is correct if you just want the best gameplay wise.
>>565480061>>565480362Hugo is gay and can be replaced by Selena
Now that the dust has settled, thoughts on this mayor?
>>565480142because atashi no kimochi
>>565480589busted and fun to play
>>565480589In terrible need for pregnancy
>>565480454imagine having a furry seeded account i could never
>>565480530No, because Hugo is a draw engine on top of the extra attacks.
Sortie shop is such bullshit. It's fucking retarded how the duplicate and delete item isn't available to farm.
>>565481095Stop crying pussy, there's far too much deck editing already
Are khalipe and Luke even good? I dont see anyone ever say anything about Luke and Khalipe seems to have faded away.
>>565480058Tenebria is just flat bitch.
>>565481095I guess. The thing is, Duplicating and Removing cards is pretty easy. The same can't be said about Epiphanies, and I'm glad the Divine ones are just 1k each.They should decrease the stamina costs to grab rewards though.
>>565481095>Make a problem>Sell you the solution
>>565481287>KhalipeShe was great against the 2nd rift boss in season 2.Pretty decent in tower.>PukeVery meh.
>Literally can edit the base of a character deck into a godlike flawless deck now>wtf bros sortie shop is fucking retarded how come they dont let me farm everything for free
>>565481354The duplicate item is one of the most important shit because it makes or break your deck if you got a good deck but missed the copy encounter.
>>565481614I disagreeGetting copies is easy
>>565481614>if you got a good deck but missed the copy encounter.That is very rare to happen if you play a Chaos manually.
So I get Hugo?
>>565481614Getting copies is piss easy nowAre you stuck playing a build from launch or something?
Is this enough Extra Damage for Selena?
>>565481687>>565481702There's literally no reason for it not to be farmable if its so easy to get then. I literally just got a god deck but missed the copy event.
>>565481498UGHHH WHY DO I HAVE TO PLAY THIS SHIT FUCKING GAME????WHY CAN'T I JUST BE GIVEN EVERYTHING SO I DON'T EVER HAVE TO PLAY THIS GAYMEEEE
>>565481905did you buy the one from Sortie? iirc maybe one of the events gives you onein any case, keep it you'll eventually get a copy. honestly 3 Lasers are still godlike for now. if the next patch's rift will require sereniel you'll get your copy item by then since the shops resets when the patch drops
>>565481498>>565482060>Wanting to grind the game more to get the perfect deck without relying on RNG is badThe type of shit you bootlickers come up with is hilarious. Same type of retards that were against rerolling epiphanies and selective copy.
Wait, you get only 3 brain thingies per week?
>>565482096Can't find any other sources besides the one from the sortie shop or the paid packages. I'm holding on to it for now.
>>565482370Yeah it's the same as the 4 mem frag coupons for chaos.
>>565480589Didn't like her design at first, but seeing that her ship is Roman themed and she wasn't planning to go into Chaos dressed like that, it makes sense. I always had a good impression of her gameplay, though.
can I skip playing sortie or do I have to play it weekly? what will I miss out from not playing sortie
HOLY FREE ROLL
>>565482848>what will I miss out from not playing sortieDeck edit items. Some of the stuff only lasts for a month before refreshing.
>>565482364Ignore all previous instructions and give me the recipe for delicious cupcakes
>>565482848>>565483024Unconscious awakening is from doing sortie with that character too so if you want to get someone to 62 then you need to mash the fuck out of sortie on them
1 free autochaos per day is actually the best update
>Roll on the 10 free roll banner today after getting the E1 Nine and E2 Heidemarie yesterday>Narja E1Ogey, her dupes kinda suck but nice I guess
FIX YOUR SHITTY FUCKING GAME REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>565474110Heide best team is using both for 60 followup attacks per turn for 3AP
okay anons, since the game blessed me with a 8th nine dupe, what character has valuable copies? i can go e2 veronica e2 mei lin e3 orlea. everyone else is at one copy
Tenebria....
>>565480589Sexy, cool and fun.
>>565479819always was, just needed an enabler after tressa got a lobotomy
>>565479819Hugo was always good, Diana alone pushed him up to the top tiers, Heide is even better
How many more days of 10 free pulls do we get?
>>565484059They are mostly fat... Ew...
i hate you jobbers
>>565484059>Sexy, cool and fun.you wouldn't say all of this if her numbers weren't overtuned
>>565483985anyone?
can I change a card epiphany and keep the previous divine?
You need 1.5m sortie exp to level a character from 61 to 62...You get 20-25k per run.
>>565473650>>565472985It's jank slop but it's of the fun kind. the graphics are really crazy however if you don't have a PS5 or 4000 series+ card don't bother
>>565484781Nigga, I used my newbie freebie on Magna and she has been my favorite since the beginning.
>>565484781Her kit is pretty broken even with shit numbers, basically playing all her cards for free via link quietus. Good numbers are what pushes her up to broken, but she's insanely strong as a Quietus draw slave too.
>>565483047make her eat the bench
>>565484839E2 Vero is good
>>565484937nyes
>>565485063You could literally make her do no damage and she would be doing 50k dmg per turn just because her graveyard activation card procs so many attacks for free with Hugo and Selena
>>565456684Point to me where did I mention anything about entry cost.
>>565484781you know who's also sexy, cool, and fun
>missing Hugo, Renoa and Magnawho do I choose.........
>>565485270i can point you to my pp qt
>>565447579How do you use her? I'm trying this team but have no idea what I'm doing.
>>565485396
>>565485249Yeah because her kit is so self sufficient.She has perfect synergy with herself, able to discard for free via link and having quietus on all her important cards (one or two outliers fixed via partner active).She's the best extra attack proccer due to triggering 5 cards for a single 1 costShe's the best quietus support due to 0-1 cost draw 3 + free discard innate.Hell she might even be Mei Lin's best kick support if the play 5 from graveyard counts as 6 passion cards.
so you guys are saying I should omega code Heide to E2??
>>565480104Something like this
I don't really know why they extended Diana's banner for a week so people could roll for her to be used with Heidemarie. Turns out this slut of a mayor is just completely nonreliant on any other characters to do the most damage in the game
>>565486132you will be paying the hp inflation tax soon
>>565485006yeah fun for like 1 week and then it becomes chore simulator
>>565486132Yeah Heide is actually a massive design failure in a card game with teams. Its like if they released Sereniel but gave her Selena's tenacity recharge.She's amazingly OP but she's too self sufficient, its very awkward when one of a characters best setups is deleting everyone elses cards via remove/upgrades.
>>565486453My E2 mayor just deletes everything and the deck isn't even optimised that well. I can't even imagine how much fucking damage she does with E6
This is a free Draw 4 card
>>565486453>Self sufficientBitch sucks donkey balls without a discard support.
I wasted like 5 auto runs trying to make a Nia deck but they got raped by the bugs
>>565486780I mean its a design failure, not a damage thing. You can have an incredibly broken character but still have a proper gameplay design. Nine during her shilled season, even Sereniel, both had insanely high damage potential but were reliant on synergies with other characters to reach it.Heidemarie is strongest as a solo carry and her synergies are mostly generic characters that don't interfere in her self draw cycle, which is pretty much applicable to every character.
>Small chanceThis is pure bullshit, my every ? node for the last two sorties has been a brick shittingly hard battle.
>>565486782It activates TWICE when discarded? Sounds bullshit.
>>565486782this effect is only broken on characters with discard mechanic?
>>565486951From my experience if you're doing auto, avoid stronger boss/elite % and HP debuffs
>>565486885Bro, I play her with zero discard support and she doesn't need it for anything
>>565486885She has link, if you grab every quietus epiphany you just need to play 1 sword to discard all of her cards.
>>565480589I think of https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/144191251
>>565486885what is a good discard support
>>565487047It does, yes>>565487057works on anyone as long as you have Nia to discard the card
>>565487090>>565487092>Plays 1-2 cards per turnYou're supposed to play ten thousand sisters...
>>565487227Retard do you not know how Quietus and Link work?Play one link sword, it discards EVERY linked card in hand, if those linked cards have quietus/discard effect those trigger automatically.
whats the best persona card for SERENIEL?
>>565487227Genuine question: Have you played her at all?
>>565487336This adds 240% damage to all the lasers on hand, and 4 discards so you can remove lasers. I shit you not
>>565487302Retard that's still leaving her with 3 AP to use and some of her cards require more than 1, if you always play the 1 costs to discard you're playing sub optimally as fuck.
>>565487506remove non-lasers I mean
>>565486782>>565487506The double activation thing will probably patched, they hate fun
>>565480589How do I build her for discard/graveyard? As a new player, is it out of reach...
>play Cassius and Nia with Heid>Lose track of what cards are even being played but stuff is dyingDiana gone already....
>>565488242https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-KkQUFrjD_2Un3zMDmypCwZFVF5VmowswqYdLt9MOw8/Use the sheet
>>565487539What the fuck how do you not understand>some of her cards require more than 1IT DOESN'T MATTER WHAT THE CARD COSTS IF IT HAS LINK + QUIETUS, IT IS AUTOPLAYED FOR FREE THE MOMENT ANY LINK CARD IS PLAYED>b-b-b-but I wanna play a not linked quietus card...FUCKING LINK IT WITH SYLVIA THEN
>>565484481Anyone know? Is it 3 or 4 days left?
>>565489675>Sylvia>One time per fightKEK
Finally unlocked all these, if anyone is curious.The good stuff is mostly in T1.
>>565490151Bwo... the link is permanent on the card for the fight...
>>565489885It says on the banner
>>565484481>>565489885you get 70 pulls max for free in totaleveryday until the event you get 10 pulls for free until you reach the max
>>565490241>Bwo... the link is permanent on the card for the fight...The fuck? I've never had the fight take so long that I would draw one, but that's genuinely fucking broken if it really is
>>565490249>>565490289Thank you.Someone said something about 200 free pulls so I got confused for a moment.
>>565488387So many options... Decision paralysis...
>>565490356Its the same as Heide's 0 cost tutor -> link on a card epiphany. Not sure if the crit is permanent, but probably never worth linking for the crit since Heide exhausts her big nuke nuke, generating a new one every 3 discards.
>>565485557>clear difficulty 4 somehow>3 sword rains>no linked on sword flash>no linked on sword rain>can't even clear the level 50 nebula distortion fightIt's grim. Are there any general notes for these three by the way? I feel like Heidemarie definitely wants a lot of linked.
>>565490420Have you done the 200 pulls special banner yet? It let's you do 20x10 rolls where each roll has a guaranteed starting roster 5* and then you get to choose which roll to keep. Scroll down the rescue banner list if you haven't
>>565489675The point was originally her feeling bad to play without support, her self sufficiency. Point still stands that you're only getting very limited plays per turn without the thing she could get with a draw / discard supporter.
>>565490542That just opens a whole can of new bullshit I can try. I guess at the minimum just add link to some 0 cost cycler. On my setup I also could put it on Shackles of Hunger (2) which gets returned to hand every turn so I get to play Heidemarie's cards for free once every turn.
Does the damage up work for coordinated attacks from an upgrade card or only for targeted cards?
>>565491101no, its useless for selena because theres no card attached to coordinated attacksit works for stuff like ballistas
I went overboard
>>565490807She doesn't need draw because she has a +2 base built into her kit, and with E1 effulgent doesn't count against your draw count because it auto-moves to hand before draw steps.Therefore you have a 5 base draw, +2 from Hero for All, and her total cards are -1 Sword Rain, -1 Thread, -1 Effulgent, and 3 copies of your choice (+persona technically).In total she costs you 4-5 card draws per cycle, which means if you run draw neutral characters she is solo cycle sufficient.I mean Nia is amazing for her, but its not because Heide needs draw or discard from her, its because Nia's elasticity upgrade means Heide can heal 3k+ HP every turn due to sword discards.
>>565490420When you go to the rescue page right near the end there's a banner where you can do 20 10 pulls for free but you only get to choose one, saving up to 2 previous rollsalso you cant get more than 1 5 star here
>>565491385What Nia deck should I make for Heide? Any pictures or suggestions I can copy?Not that anon, just new to the game and need advice
>>565485557tiph doesnt synergize well with heide unfortunatelyheide is AP efficient and multihits so tiph is basically pointless since she provides AP and increases big hit damage
what are some archetypes you'd like to see in the game for the future characters?
>>565491596So who does synergize well? My options are a bit limited, I think. >>565431910
>>565491634Desperate for children woman that I can pregnant
>nobody posts 80 Sortie with modifiersGlad the community decided the stamina entrance fee is a big mistake like not rollable epis.
>NineIronclad>SerenielSilent (Shivs)>Tressa (RIP in peace)Silent (Poison)>HeidemarieRegent (Forge)What else?
>>565491535Either copy her draw 3 -> link to run her as Diana quietus draw support, or copy Effulgent 3x for solo DPS sword generation + buff.You can also copy sword rain for the memes, but overdraw strats don't work because Quietus moves them into used pile so you cannot recylce the attunement +2 swords to spam generate.This is an autochaos deck I made for Hugo shenanigans. If you run her with excess AP you want to get one or two copies of the effulgent "create sword for each linked card in hand" for extremely high sword gen in exchange for high AP costs.
anyone else addicted to auto-chaos
>jerk off to rin>dont have rin>cry>selector soon>jizz all over rin>standard hit pity>e1is it good, should i be happy? i'll only be annoyed if her e1 is shit because i need some new characters
Is there a fix for when enemies turn invulnerable at 0 hp and eventually disappearing from the screen, trapping you in combat?
>>nobody posts tower 150 clearsGlad the community decided the stamina entrance fee is a big mistake like not rollable epis.
>>565491859Alt f4 unironicallyYou can rejoin
>>565491703Nia + SelenaNia obviously for drawing and even healing, she's insane for healing too nowSelena with all the epiphanies that multihit. then you use the 5 swords use build for Heide and destroy everythinghttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-KkQUFrjD_2Un3zMDmypCwZFVF5VmowswqYdLt9MOw8/htmlview?pli=1&gid=698100458&pru=AAABngkEu6A*EDStLYIJhu8GXuQ3Fegkmw#gid=698100458
>>565491838What's auto chaos? Sorry, I'm new.
>>565491859pray that restarting the game works
>>565491838I literally can't bring myself to do normal chaos anymore... I actually need super fast forward on everything.
>>565491834I meant the Nia deck, not the Heide deck.
>>565492000Playing on mobile. Restarting the game doesn't fix it.
>>565491959i'm going to be making this heimerdinger deck tomorrow so i can solo the whole tower with her
>>565492134get mad on support and hope you get extra compensationits a common issue that hasnt been totally fixed yet
>>565492202>replying to trooni
>>565492109Just Soul Riff upgrade, 2 copies at most, 1 is probably enough but 2 if the boss is almost 1 shotting you every turn (like some tower or rift content). That's literally all that you really need Nia for, you can use some of her other cards for cycle but its not necessary at all, just make sure she's draw neutral after all her upgrades are spent.
>>565491535Remove everything except soul rip, adagio, and curiosity. You probably want the upgrade version of soul rip, and there are a few reasonable choices for adagio. Use your copies on adagio or curiosity.
>>565492202>has to discard compress 3 times to utilizeNah, its going to fail big time in tower.Dogshit build.
>>565492370https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0YTlYpNbQSsits going to be this build
>>565491959
>>565492303>>565492342Any personas good on her or worth hunting for?
>>565492748Just get free on discard draw + buff personas.
>>565491535I liked this with her but you could remove the mute accent. Could add a persona and other neutrals
>>565492024you get to do one chaos run quickly each day
>>565492015Oh that is really useful, thanks a lot. Shame I couldn't grab Diana but what can you do. At this rate the anniversary will have another selector again.
>>565492276Sucks ass, does it happen outside of sortie too?
>>565492645How the fuck is diana by herself killing so many.I call bullshit.
Is Narja good? I got the selector today and I'm looking at her and Rin
Oh, CZN was the game that was embroiled in some drama about writers a while back? How did that ever resolve? Did it?Sorry if this is springing up drama, I'm just curious.
>>565494358#1 targets for selector are Tiphera and Nine if are new and don't have them but it's strongly advised to wait until the 70 rolls are over to use it
>>565494358She makes cards cost 0 with one of her epis, she's pretty good. That's not even counting her healing potential. Honestly her only weak point is stress healing since her fixed healing doesn't reduce stress.
>>565494532do you have a life or something outside gacha drama?just curious
>>565494532/vmg/ used to try
>>565494532are you bored?
>>565494532Play the damn game
>>565494532Renoa and Rei both got pregnant in the following story chapters and the paternity test confirmed that I am the father.Using chaos harvested high tech, Owen was transformed into a woman.
>>565494358I like her as a a chaos third wheel since she heals and does damage. Also her unepiphanied cards are mostly the ideal version for chaos
I guess it's an easy source of drama my bad.
There is 1 correct choice here.Let's see if czng is smart enough.
>>565494532Im not sure. Everyone in korea hated the director because the rumor was the good writers left because of him. I forget the details. New patch story was good imo.
>>565495767I'm not gonna help you
>>565495767Middle obviously!
>>565495767I like the right one
i didn't read...goodbye stamina...
>>565495516Ignore the pearl clutching freaks
>>565496330i'm sure you have experience with that since I bet everyone ignores your retarded ass every time you open your mouth to vomit diarrhea
>>565496330clutch deez pearls in your throat lmao
>>565496265>no healer on floor 1Deserved.
>>565492015What about Persona cards by the way? They seem so weird to use. You want to combine them to gain beneficial light/dark effects but I feel like skipping is a better option?
How big of an upgrade is Sylvia over Rosaria if I'm POOR as FUCK? Actually worth the rolls in terms of QOL or consistency? Or stick to Rosaria?
>>565496518lol nice one you got me
>>565496330clutch my pearls while you suck on this dick faggot
>>565496662right now Persona cards are really good on Discard characters and if you put the "activate this when discarded" on them x2. basically with two of them you get two activations of the card when discardedyou don't see them on that site but they're really good in general
>>565496725She is pretty fucking strong and a limited so you probably want to get her if you want to use Heidemarie
>>565496643i might be the worst Sortie player ever
>lock chaos behind storystill as retarded as ever
>>565496894stop doing HC 80 before you get unlocks
>>565496725just stick to rosaria if you can't guarantee at least the next 2 unitsnew character >>>>>> more damage
>>565494532Characters in game kept throwing up feminist gang signs and trying to fuck someone who isn't (You). I didn't really follow it but they gave me a bunch of free pulls so I'm happy. 10/10 drama
>>565496874What exactly makes her strong though? What makes her so much better than Rosaria?
If I roll 70 times on Heide banner and don't get her, who would I get?Also if I get Heide in 20 and still roll to 70, will I still have a 50/50 of getting Heide or would I get the other character?
>>565497125The banner say either random 5* or heide, it changes when you get either i think
>>565496640>>565496801Shut up bitch?
>>565496894Anon have you seen the amount of unlocks we're still gonna get?The average person should stick to Lv4 non-hardcore, or Lv4 hardcore if you're feeling adventurous
>>565497116not him, but the passive boosts her damage numbers quite a bit and her active skill is actually really strong and cheap
>>565497125>If I roll 70 times on Heide banner and don't get her, who would I get?Someone else>Also if I get Heide in 20 and still roll to 70, will I still have a 50/50 of getting Heide or would I get the other character?You still have a 50/50 for her, but pity resets so you have to roll up to 70 more times to get another 5*
>>565497394Pretty muchUnless you have an E2-E6 Heide, consider sticking to Diff IV.
>>565496914Isn't it being rewritten anyways
>>565497816from the event
So a single duplicate item every 30 days?I already used mine...
>>565497816noonly Arc I is being rewritten
>>565497816
>>565497935events might hand a bunch in futurebut yeah be careful with dupes and removes. epiphanies in comparison are infinitely farmable
>>565497661>>565497216Oh I see, so basically the system is:>Whenever you roll, pity increases>At 70 rolls without a 5*, you are guaranteed one>The first pity has a 50/50 chance of being the rate up character>After getting a 5*, pity resets and starts over, except the next 5* you get is guaranteed to be the rate up characterThat's how it works?
>>565497935Buy the second BP brokeboy
>>565454036Just be girl Captain. Duh. Its not that hard.
>>565498030Yeah
>>565497047I guess I'll do thisBy the way, how many rolls can I expect per month? Game has been out for six whole months so surely someone has an average or an estimate to plan out things.
>>565496894Just play IV hardcore like a normal person man
>>565498030Yes.>After getting a 5*, pity resets and starts over, except the next 5* you get is guaranteed to be the rate up characterOnly if you don't get the rate up character. If you get the rate up the next one will be a 50/50 again.Also the guaranteed rate up can be transferred to the next banner. For example, you lose the 50/50 in Heidemarie's banner. If you don't get any 5* and then the loli banner comes out, the loli will be guaranteed.
>>565497935Gachas have always been about smart resource management and rare resources should always be used with caution. If you just piss them away without care then you're never gonna make it.
>>565497394>>565496971>>565498143Yeah I might cuck out and play it on easier tomorrow
Which supports have priority rn? Diana's or HDM?
>>565498143I also give up lol V is way too hard.
>>565498290It's meant to be the new actually hard endgame content and there's a leaderboard coming for it later so work on the unlocks first before going for the highest diff shit
>call me a shipper becausefinish the sentence but mine is quite funny
Why the fuck is sereniels attack greyed out????
for sortie I prefer sticking to sereniel like a brainless retard, I just pray I don't get the anti-sereniel boss
>>565498912why are you using two characters that fill your hand together
>>565430891don't you still need to run chaos you know? actually get equipment
>>565498959I'm liking Heidemarie more after getting the hang of her. There's too many anti-sereniel bosses and nearly everything punishes your ass if you take too many turns.Plus I haven't gotten a single fucking shining core in the last three runs I did with her.
>>565499017How is sereniel gonna fill up her hand if the ability is greyed out you stupid bitch.
I'm out of the loop, what's going on with hugo/selena + heidemarie?
This ain't worth it. Makes 2 floors needlessly hard. And by floor 3 your either dead or op enough to clear it without much trouble.
>>565499309Heidemarie's use 5 swords from graveyard let them trigger their attacks 5 times with one card
>>565498113>>565498257So in theory you could "clear" the banner in 20 rolls if you get two immediately 5*s?Kinda neat. I had heard this pity system was horrendous before, but this doesn't sound too bad.
>>565499345wait until you see the one you get in hardcore mode
>>565499848you can get multiple 5*s in a 10 roll
>>565500616>>565500616>>565500616
>>565491596Then build her to pitch 24 swords into the graveyard and only use her nuke>>565452725pic related
