Kate editionPrevious thread: >>563978826>Life is Strange(LiS) - An episodic narrative adventure game by developer Don’t Nod (DN). Set in the fictional coastal town of Arcadia Bay, Oregon, it follows Max Caulfield, a shy, awkward photography student who discovers she can rewind time and—perhaps more urgently—that she’s very, very gay. At the heart of the story is Max’s reunion with her estranged best friend, the rebellious, blue-haired Chloe Price. Their bond becomes the game’s pulsing queer core as they unravel the mystery of Rachel Amber’s disappearance. What begins as a teenage reconnection blooms into a messy, tender queer odyssey about grief, desire, and the impossible choices we make for the people we can't truly live without.>Official Websites:https://lifeisstrange.com/https://dont-nod.com/en/>Life is Strange Series Steam:https://store.steampowered.com/curator/36149206>Lost Records Series Steam:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1902960>/lisg/ Permalink:http://orph.link/lisg>FAQs, Old Threads/Strawpolls, Soundtrack/Music & Leaks:http://orph.link/lisgarchive>/lisg/ Community Written Fan Fiction:http://orph.link/story>Compilation of Fanfics:http://orph.link/fanfic>/lisg/ Content Producers:http://imgur.com/a/DOAKn>Art of LiS:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=265yHETXRXo [Open]>/lis/ sings:Obstacleshttps://web.archive.org/web/20200324102651/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WjPsOkijFh0Glass Wallshttps://www.mediafire.com/file/1y584yhvq5p2y35/Glass+walls+lisg+edition.mp3No Belowhttps://www.mediafire.com/file/cpi79dyuahemkd4/Lisg+sings+no+below+all+v.mp3Discussion of other LiS games in the series like Life is Strange 2, TC, Don't Nod's other media like Lost Records, the upcoming TV show and other similar games is welcome!
Amanda Thomas best girl
>>565543203Absolutely zero doubt about it
>>565543203>>565543835She's not Max's soulmate
>As Max and Chloe are leaving the ruins of Arcadia Bay behind, there's one more tragic story unfolding>Alice and Lisa stuck in Max's room, Alice hasn't eaten anything in days, the dorms are destroyed and no one comes looking for them>"No one's gonna come save us, this is the end, we'll starve to death...">Alice...you can survive this and go back to your owner. All you have to do is... all you have to do is eat me."a times this week did you try to nibble my leafs? I'm a plant, Alice, you're a bunny, maybe it's time I accept my destiny... OUR destiny.">"Lisa, I can't make this choice!">"No Alice, you're the only one who can">eat Lisahttps://orph.link/sacrificelisa.mp3>eat your own foothttps://orph.link/sacrificepaw.mp3
In every lifetime.
>>565544460Always
The more I think about it, the more I feel they made a serious mistake by rushing into Reunion. It just ended everything too quickly. Once it is done, people move on. A big part of the fanbase has always been the Pricefield fans, and now we know there will not be any more games about them. So the space for imagination is smaller. And it is not like Reunion gives us that much to talk about either.
>>565544172she is and always will be the most mature and meaningful love interest. Max’s romance and chemistry with her absolutely mogs the shit out of the frigid, soulless garbage pricefielders got in Reunion. stay mad
>>565544721That's a good thing actually, let the series rest for good, we'll have the show to discuss next year anyway
>>565544789no lies detected
>>565544789Max will always dump Amanda for Chloe, no matter what, so keep seethingyour ship has been destroyed
>>565545228>Pissfield is just an option even in a Pissfield game>Always be remembered as the ship that killed the entire franchiseKeep seething, cholrefag
>>565544789Generic character with zero personality. Only the writers of D9 could think this was peak writing. Did these people not write for a living
>>565544721The only thing you can really count on is Square Enix running their games into the ground. They seem held back by poor leadership that keeps hiring more people just like themselves
>>565545413>Unironically one of the most carefully crafted and layered characters in the entire franchiseWith your "deep" understanding of character writing, your seething ass is going to keep us entertained for a long time. Keep burning
>>565546039Cry me a river. Your seething is gives me nourishment.
>>565546039Manchild enjoys manchildren in their media and who better to put on a pedestal: a womanchild with bpd hair colors.
>>565546039Explain for once what makes this boring character deep then
>>565546725Chloe is a very well written character, there is no doubt about that whatsoever
>>565546737You're confusing 'boring' with your own inability to process nuanced writing. I'm tired of characters woven from bottom-tier melodrama and teenage angst, whose issues are entirely their own fault. Rachel and Chloe are tedious, but I can still admit when a character is well-constructed. You, however, seem to think 'fun' is the only metric for quality. That's a brainlet take
>>565547669Nobody gives a shit about Amanda, even the few people who did fanarts to DE/Reunion characters focused on Safi more than her. She's just not that complex, and not that interesting either
>>565548970>MUH fanartkeep seething, chlorefag
>>565543835>>565543203Temu Steph.
>>565549074pure, high-grade seethe today. keep going
>>565548970>She's just not that complex, and not that interesting eitherNice try, but if she were actually 'boring,' you wouldn't be spiraling like this. It's been a year and a half and you still can't help yourself
>>565547669So you have nothing of substance. Like always.
>>565550413Well, you haven't exactly shown a desire to discuss anything of substance. Or the capacity to do so, for that matter. But alright, ask away
>>565550831The question remains. What makes this character deep or well written
>>565550964When literally every minor detail about a character flows from another, and digging deeper reveals a complex chain of interconnected facts, that's exactly what deep writing looks like. It's called internal consistency. Again, ask a specific question
>>565551394Give some examples then
>>565552237They cant, youre only wasting your time with them
>>565552237Something simple. Look at the cooking as a love language subplot. Throughout the game, it's established that food is how Amanda provides care. She cooks for the community (bar, soup kitchen), friends, and family. You can track her relationship depth by the effort involved — like the homegrown salad and homemade focaccia. Her sisters explicitly gauge her relationship status by her menu; they know she reserves certain dishes only for those she truly values. The ultimate act of trust is sharing a recipe, like the Johnnycakes — it's like a ritual of tribal belonging. Where does this originate? If you pay attention, you realize her grandmother was her primary influence. Social media logs confirm her sisters are only 1-2 years younger. Her mother was overwhelmed, so Amanda spent her childhood with her grandmother. So she didn't just 'grow up' — she was trained as the successor to a matriarchy. Her grandmother handed her the 'keys' to family stability, which Amanda then transformed into a role of caring for the entire community. This is why she's been working at that bar since she was 19; she chose the adult world of responsibility while her peers were still kids. So her cooking isn't a hobby; it's a claim of agency inherited from the matriarch. If she hands you a recipe, she's admitting you into her inner circle. And all of this — the childhood discovery, the family dynamics — was written just to give weight to a single scene (or two, if you count the optional one). That is the definition of cohesive, layered writing
>>565556697>cooking as a love language subplotWhich those two hacks completely butchered in shitunion, turning it into open mic nights is her love language>This is why she's been working at that bar since she was 19Is it explicitly stated there?
>>565556697Nice, but in the game is worthless because there's no character evolution, no conflict and since DE focuses more on her being a romance option over everything else, its very forgettable. Maybe this would have been explored better if she was more of a presence in another game, but that's not here
>>565561295It's pretty obvious that Zimmerman didn't really care for DE or it's characters. But he wasn't exactly alone in not caring
>>565563985You can only do so much when you have such dull characters and zero time to work with
>>565563985That's probably why he's forced to repost some fandom clowns on his personal blog now, desperately trying to justify his Wattpad-tier writing>>565570042Try saying that without Zimmerman's cock in your mouth
>>565571264Zimmerman may be a mediocre writer, but there's only much you can do with the time they got after DE
>>565574906it's all about how you spend that time. he was literally handed a fire plot and a concept with three investigative branches, and all he could squeeze out was 8 hours of meaningless yapping between two cardboard characters
>>565578279The fire plot is not what was planned in DE2. The skeleton in the basement was never a random student that killed himself, as the fire was originally pf supernatural origin
>>565579860>The fire plot is not what was planned in DE2
>>565579860Aysha also mentioned the fire, and that was way back. A lot of hints in DE about fire too, so pretty sure that was included. The two new characters that were going to be introduced controlled water and fire. So I would assume the fire character was involved?
>>565584439Someone actually counted, and fire/burning is mentioned like 80 times throughout the game, or something like that. It's not just literal circumstances, it's a constant subtextual motif. The lines like 'gasoline-on-fire', 'burn my throat out', 'all of the smoke, none of the depth' or 'lit a fire in my passion for justice'. So the fire was the backbone of the narrative long before the arson plot even kicked in.
>>565584439But how does Diamonds unknown power ties in all of this?
>>565588620its suprising how they went ahead to tease the fire thing, only for Reunion to make it inconsequential with being just normal arsonists
>>565589724First thing they cut was new people with powers and the focus on powers. Of course that meant the whole secret society and Max getting her powers from a human sacrifice the day she was born was cut too
>>565589724happens when you keep only two people in the writing stuff just because they were the cheapest options available
>>565592135Was this even a true thing or just speculation
So I finally joined the right Safield server. Olivia seemed a bit upset over how everything went down. I guess who can blame her. She mentioned her and Hannah were fighting for Safield. Hannah really likes every single ship but Pricefield. But she seems really nice, happy that people enjoyed both games
>>565595405She can keep coping in the discord server then, but hopefully she'll get better acting roles in the futureAlso fuck her ship kek
>>565595405Hannah probably told Rhianna she hated every other ship but Pricefield. That said Olivia is probably doing her best Safi and pandering to an audience.
>>565596076keep seething, chlorefag
>>565596110Ashly Burch at least has never changed her stances on Chloe's character since she left the series, but Hannah does flip flop a lot to the point I wonder if she even understand Max beyond her superficial traits
>>565596110That's not correct. They got really close during DE. They were basically living together the whole time they were filming RE
>>565596390Hannah is a people pleaser.Fucking hell this series should have never gone beyond the first game.
>>565596110>>565596885I really doubt Hannah said that. Just face it, she does not like Pricefield. But the fact that she fought for Safield.. I really struggle taking her seriously because she was going on about how toxic Pricefield was, but Safield is wholesome? Where is the logic here
>>565598021I said she lived with Olivia. What that other anon said about her fighting for Safield is true. Just like she fought for her other relationships, which I'm not even going to mention yet
>>565595220Zimmerman said they cut the power thing in a interview with that podcaster. I do not remember his name. The rest, like the thing about powers and some other things come from a person claiming to be a former dev at D9
>>565598637What else did they said about the power, witch shit and the sacrifice tied to Max's powers?
>>565598434You are kind of proving my point here. If Hannah pushed for Safi, Vinh, and Amanda, and was clearly fine with moving on from Pricefield while also calling it toxic, then it becomes hard to take her seriously because it feels so inconsistent
>>565599708I have zero issues with her. She never explicitly said anything - and she didn’t have to - but she wasn’t exactly hiding it either. There are years of interviews you can listen to. If she’s more comfortable working with Olivia or Samantha and wanted to keep that going, that’s her own business
>>565599708No one should take Hannah that seriously. She will go in whatever direction she thinks people want her to go. >>565598912Not much. Two new people with powers were supposed to be introduced. Secret society. It would be more about the familiy of Safi than Safi when it came to powers and etc. The father of Safi would be important. But also, the next game was also struggling with the same issue as DE. Many different drafts. So its not like there was a super clear plan ahead
>>565600569This is true though. If you listen to interviews with Hannah she was always Bay and not a fan of Pricefield. But what does that change? Nothing really. And it does not matter at all
>>565600569We are talking about different things. Her personal preferences are one thing, but her argument was that Pricefield is toxic and that she is not a fan. At the same time, she supports Safi ending up with Max, which feels like a worse version of Chloe. Vinh is a bizarre choice, and Amanda makes more sense since Hannah has said that is the kind of character she likes. She does not really have a consistent argument and just seems to dislike Chloe and Pricefield
>>565600705I can't imagine the DE team would have been good at tying together all of those things like Safi's dad, Max powers tied to the Abraxas sacrifice, two new additional powered people and Diamond being a secondary MC, as well as a Chloe cameo
>>565603881It would have been another messy game. The DE team had no idea what they were doing
Who's handling the social media accounts for Life is Strange? I thought they fired everyone already
I just want the franchise to survive and come back.
Who's more deranged: the old Rachelfag or the new guy that hates Chloe so much it's a core part of his personality?
>>565612778The Rachel fag. I kind of miss him though
>>565612778Joyce ring schizo
>>565612623let it dieit had a good run, but all things needs to end
>>565600705If this is true, thank God they killed that shit. Fucking garbage.
>>565612623Like how? There's zero chance a new game would sell well. And they have just destroyed their joker in the form of Max, and Max and Chloe
>>565600569I wonder if this is why they didn’t really use her for marketing. Especially for Reunion it might be hard when she's genuinely uninterested in the entire premise
>>565615824I know. I should have said wish instead of want. I've accepted it's dead, but the heart yearns. I'd be happy with just novels and comics.
>>565616438Don’t we all. But maybe if the TV show is a hit, we might get something. Not really sure what that would be, since we do not really have a developer or publisher anymore. But maybe it is best to let it rest. Double Exposure and Reunion had such poor numbers that the interest just is not there anymore.
>>565615824>And they have just destroyed their joker in the form of MaxShould’ve seethed less then
reminder to tune in to Katy Bentz stream where she'll hang out with Hannah and sign autographs
>>565646620whoops >May 15th at 11AM PST
>>565646620Katy Bentz has a discord server, when DE came out I felt she was hinting she might have a role to play in the future. And she and Hannah did do some collabs. I wonder how she would fit into future games
>>565655602If she had a role, there's no D9 LiS games anymore
>>565658642I would have liked to see Alex and Steph again. So a shame
>>565663549Alex and Steph's story is done, be thankful SE is not milking them to oblivion
Do you guys remember that weird clip where they made Hannah watched Nathan shoot Chloe, and Chloe was not mentioned once. I think that might have been the single weirdest thing they did around DE. Anyone smart could tell what that even was? They talked about how hard that was for the VA playing Nathan. So weird.
>>565671308It seems like it was one of Square Enix mandates to remove or minimize Chloe's role in DE because they knew that part would have hurt preorder sales hard, but it backfired in a spectacular fashion
>>565675585Backfired how? By the Pricefield game flopping into the abyss?
>>565677229DE sold insanely bad and killed the series. There were no coming back from those sales numbers or how they made a pigsty of the story and the characters
>>565677663Nice deflection. For a year and a half, your only argument was 'no Pricefield = no sales.' Now you got your fanservice slop and it flopped even harder. Where's all that money you promised, retard?
>>565677948Obsessed, get a fucking life you weirdo
>>565677948Give it a year or so, and it is not unlikely that Reunion will end up selling about the same as Double Exposure. DE had frequent and fairly heavy discounts, which helped boost its numbers.
>>565679157Has Reunion being put on discount yet?
>>565678536Predictable. Now that the spectacular failure of the Pricefield game proved exactly how much your ship is actually worth, you have zero arguments left>>565679157It's not about the specific numbers - they're embarrassing for both games. The point is that the dogshit rhetoric about 'only Pricefield sells' has finally slammed into reality and died
>>565679693You still cant prove the original DE2 plan would have done better than Reunion
>>565679594Not yet
>>565679693It is not wrong. Life is Strange is the best-selling game, Before the Storm is second, and the comics sold around 250–500k copies, which is more than Double Exposure and Reunion combined. Max and Chloe, either separately or together, usually sell well.But the original Life is Strange came out a long time ago, Double Exposure was not a good game, and narrative games do not sell as well anymore. But you are right about one thing, I do not really think online discussion has much impact on sales numbers.So you are both right and wrong
>>565680110You can't prove it would have done worse. After the embarrassing failure of Pricefield fanservice, you have zero arguments left. Now you're forced to invent hypothetical scenarios and ask others to debunk them. Stop embarrassing yourself
>>565679594Amazon had physical copies at 50% off briefly last month
>>565681591Oof, it's over then
>>565680713>You can't prove it would have done worseI can, the reception was not there after DE, there was no enthusiasm nor momentum. If they had committed to that direction, it would have done Concord tier numbers rather than a repeat of DE's flop numbers
>>565683271The engagement metrics for DE and RE are nearly identical. In fact, RE actually had higher view counts on regionally targeted promos where they dumped extra money specifically based on DE’s performance data. RE also had a lower price point and a more accessible release format. So, with similar reach, a better price, and a more streamlined format, the 'pure fanservice' still managed to attract fewer buyers.You're making excuses for a product nobody wanted to buy
>>565687268> Half the sales numbers of DE > Nobody wanted to buy Give it time. I can almost guarantee you that they will end more or less similar. Which is bad, but no one wanted their poorly written sequel to LiS
>>565687994Hey, where'd that energy go? You went from 'Pricefield is a money printer' to 'please give it time for the sales to even out' real quick. It's embarrassing
>>565687994>>565688501I don't think it will even out at all. DE's sales were bolstered a little bit by those that erringly denounced it because of how awful Reunion is. It's still happening now.
>>565689228Its pretty much irrelevant anyway
>>565693153Considering how neither game sold enoug to save the series, it does not. And if you ask me both were pretty bad. But at least Reunion had the excuse that it was made in a very short time and by very few people
>>565701076>it was made in a very short time and by very few peoplethey were handed all the assets, finished character models with established lore, the location, the main fire plot, and the three-branch investigation concept on a silver platter. i can excuse the mediocre technical polish given the timeframe, but there is zero excuse for the writing being such low-tier, bottom-of-the-barrel dogshit
>>565702783DE had dogshit characters and plot elements, they just ditched them
>>565707741And the sales dropped anyway. Nice trade-off.
>>565655602Katy Essentially bet her entire being on Steph. I imagine she walks round at home pretending to be her.
>>565708657She might be more successful if she pretended to be gay.
Replayed TC. It's not nearly as bad as you guys say it is. It's extremely comfy and has great characters.I feel bad for Ryan. He both loses his dad and plays second fiddle to Steph in the romance game.
>>565715642Nobody said TC was terrible anon, it is just shallow
>>565715642TC is the best D9 game, but it also feels incredibly insubstantial. The investigation by Alex, Steph, and Ryan doesn't ever feel urgent and doesn't really go anywhere until Jed shoots Alex. I hated the twist about Alex's dad in episode 5. The confrontation at the end was comically bad. I also think the open world aspect is poorly implemented. The romance stuff is underdeveloped and feels too videogamey. I didn't hate the LARP, but it also felt pointless relative to how much time is devoted to it. The game really needed more tension and consequences.Overall, I came away feeling like it was too flawed to be considered better than okay.
>>565726870It needed to be twice as long, just like every other LiS game.
>>565733097They didn't even have enough story for the game that released.
>>565715642It's comfy, but you have to ignore the flaws which become apparent on a replay. It's another case of feeling like it needed another 2-3 chapters.TC has always been generally regarded as decent enough though. It has the only decent male love interest in the series.
Did everyone read Michel's twitter posts about Rachel? It's pretty similar to how I viewed her, but I was a little surprised by Michel saying that in their concepts during the development of LiS1 that Rachel's family was poor. It does explain better why Rachel was so desperate to get out of Arcadia Bay, though.
>>565715642Its an okay walking simulator with romance. There is a reason why people like it and then forget it existed
>>565767570keep seething, chlorefag
>>565767813As always great responses
>>565767813Do you reply to anyone and any post with that?
>>565715642The ending was pretty damn lame>Use your power to make the bad guy feel bad
>>565759584I also found it strange how she was the DA's daughter in BtS. I thought she'd be in a similar situation as Chloe, but infinitely more charming and manipulative.I don't believe that the DA would ever just resign himself to "oh she just ran away from home"
>>565797618Why didn't Deck Nine consider it in the first place?
