Self Res Edition>Guidehttps://www.bungie.net/en/Guide/Destiny2>Year of Prophecyhttps://www.destinythegame.com/en/YearOfProphecy>Destiny Risinghttps://www.playdestinyrising.com/>NewsTWID (4/30):https://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/twid_04_30_2026Update 9.5.6.2: https://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/destiny_update_9_5_6_2>ResourcesDIM: https://app.destinyitemmanager.com/D2 foundry: d2foundry.ggArmor Picker: https://d2armorpicker.com/API: https://www.light.gg/Stats: https://destinytracker.com/Braytech: https://braytech.org/PressKits: https://press.bungie.com/Destiny-2Checkpoint Bots: https://d2checkpoint.com/Popularity Report: https://popularity.report/>TTK, Buffs/Debuffs, DPS, etc...https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WaxvbLx7UoSZaBqdFr1u32F2uWVLo-CJunJB4nlGUE4/Previous:>>565408179
>>565563670
>>565563670https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cNyzjQtgJjA
what the fuck happened?
>>565565602Rape happened.
>>565565602bungie made a call
>me with my Truth
Bloody fucking saars...
>>565570647i love the difference in description of each game
>>565570647Truly grim. They let Division 2 and Fallout 76 steal the remaining Destiny 2 population just for a game that's already bleeding out.
>>565563670whelp!time to merge with /coopg/
/hg/ owns this board. Remember that.
Why are we still here? Just to suffer? Every night, I can feel my subscriber count... And my watch time... even my upload schedule... The game I've lost... the viewers I've lost... won't stop hurting... It's like they're all still there. You feel it, too, don't you? I'm gonna make Bungie give back our viewers...
>>565570647what have marakeks been saying since the major decline of players? Im just now getting back into the loop of things but surely theyre still not defending bungie after everything... right?
>>565574098
>>565563670Remember switching to purifier robes when you were dead in trials to blind people waiting to snipe your self-res?
Is bungie gonna release anything that CHANGES EVERYTHING?
>>565576419Not only are they still defending Bungie, but they're harassing people like Paul Tassi for going>I tried but I didn't like it. It just isn't what I wanted from a Bungie game. They're now trying to spin this as Paul Tassi being "anti art", even though Marathon 2026 is arguably anti art because its artstyle was largely stolen and because it is a live service vehicle meant to wring money out of players via microtransactions and to artificially inflate playtime with cheap deaths and seasonal resets.
>>565563670How many posters remain? Do you even know? There would have been.... 50.... in /bg/ - Bungie General... maybe moooore, such a losssss...
is renegades worth 20 bucks
>>565574098>>565577635nah, we(/hg/) died naturally a week or so ago. The last /dg/ thread just got jannied because of the Bare ass golden shower on a blue board. We should be kneeling over the fact that the jannies actually still check this general while they completely ignore /hg/ because of how dead and irrelevant we are. Since there's no multiplayer game coming out, it will be that way for some time. Like the era between halo 4 and 5.
>>565581620no
>>565582087what about ten bucks
>>565582142no
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>>565582221cant be that bad
>>565582445
Tiered Moon weapons from Pit of Heresy will save the game!
>>565583002>doomer spam>tranny grammarmany such cases
>>565583002maybe if they took the ropes and shit off
>>565582159>>565582278I give you the "F" Schrift for "The Forced"
>>565582445As a season its just mediocre. As an expansion its not good like EoF but for different reasons. Its more fun to play in comparison to the slog that was EoF's campaign, but it feels like a seasonal activity strung together into a campaign, with the exotic mission (while fun compared to Heliostat) being a campaign mission.
>>565583196but enough about you
Bungie lost this war months ago. Your people are broken, scattered, hunted, defeated... by me. I wish I could tell you it was difficult, but it wasn't. We are one step ahead, always. The general is already under our control. Soon, the game as well. The Warframe and the Halo fanbase share the same goal. We fight together to honor the will of Marty. But... without challenge I grow weary, lost, alone. But, here you now stand. This is my last fight. A true test of legend. Our story will outlive us both. SET A FIRE IN YOUR HEART GUARDIAN. BAAAAARE YOUR FANGS. FIGHT HARD. Die well.
we're getting archived again bros it's fucking over
Rape.
Wait for the June Jam sesh!
>>565588179see:>>565583196
>>565582445>star wars>nubungieIts pretty bad nigga
so umm...............do you guys like destiny
>>565589190yea
Uhhhhhhh Datto status?
>>565589190Destiny, yesDestiny 2, no
>>565589876Locked in Escharum's chambers... forever
>>565580527Thanks. They really are delusional.
>>565589190No, I just play it because it's still playable on PS3. I've played through the base game and DLC a billion times but can't tell you anything about the story. I'm not even sure if I enjoy the gameplay because the aim assist is so strong you barely have to aim.
>remember all of my cool d1 clips>remember that xbox deleted all of them
There are 10 million Marathon copies unaccounted forall sitting in a landfillSomething doesn't add up here
This image perfectly encapsulates marathon shills
>>565591567should've backed that shit up on onedrive
>>565580527> Marathon is an art gameOne of the biggest fucking copes I've ever seen in a very long time with a game that obviously was set up so differently. The funny thing about people busting Tassi is he is summarizing not only a very common experience but it's something a larger portion of people feel even when they were hyped and genuinely interested in the game. Forget any made up boogeyman about "hate campaigns", a lot of people who bounced on Marathon were those who realized they didn't like the kind of game that it was. There are a couple of people from my Destiny clan who were exactly this kind of person where they thought the setting and look of the game was interesting, but they could see right through things how much was padded out for time, and just not a particularly interesting game loop for just how compact the maps were and the action was a bit higher than they expected. In the eyes of the Bungoid defenders, these people get lumped together with hate campaign people and it cheats out the larger reality that a ton of people really don't like Marathon despite giving it an honest try. "It gets better by hour 20" is bullshit too because there's nothing you really can't understand under a handful of hours
>>565592543I mean they basically did the same shit they did with Edgers and Year of Flop, write off unsold copies as a major loss, have the tie in of a retailer with proceeds go to the Bungie Foundation, congrats write offs for everybody. I'm no bootlicker but I would love to see the games and entertainment industry audited to kingdom come.
>>565591567Same but at least you can take comfort in knowing you weren't the only one to lose them.
India is our greatest ally, saar.
>>565581620I got it on the current sale and holy shit is it not even worth 16 dollars there are two actual missions the intro that you dont need the expansion to play and the last level, every "story" mission is playing lawless missions (the only content to play after you beat the "story") with story voice acting.I got scammed out of 16 bucks.
https://youtube.com/watch?v=SepF8NGD_yUIt's up
Siva won as per usual
>know someone who bought marathonkek
>>565599543>never brought back shield brothers during season of the red herring ah ah dreadnaught I will never forgive me
>>565600339>did bring back Sunless Cell>but removed it from the game 3 months later anyway """accidentally"""
you need to post more so the thread doesn't die again. truthposter, i need something from you every 30 minutes, no excuses.
Don't worry, I'll keep updating with how hard marathon is flopping
im back on apex after more than a year
>>565574440KEK
>>565563670>>565574085would there even be a purpose to moving to /vm/? game is basically dead and this is just a gospel thread at this pointmaybe we should turn into /dg/ - The Division generalor DROWN in the deep...
1 week under 20k
>>565605137The Division gets boring quite quickly desu. They do occasionally have new expansions but they really are strecthing out the same content over and over. Running control points for the billionth time in retaliation or running the same missions but with health bloat slop for prototype gear that is complete RNG but ultimately doesn't matter outside of anywhere but retaliation because in raids and incursions all stats are defaulted. Destiny we can at least talk about raping Bungie and their latest controversy while Division is like "woah guys look we can play control points but slightly differently!".
>>565605137If /hg/ can survive as an immortal husk, then so can Destiny. Although in this case we now serve as a monument to Bungie's sins.
>>565606269>but retaliationI meant escalation but honestly kind of hard to keep track of the name of these modes in Div2 since they are all so generic just random single word out of the dictionary.
>>565606331/hg/ has a whole ass game coming out soon even if it's an UE remaster, and the games still get regular players in multiplayer.
>>565606552Except there are no more updates on the multiplayer game and the AI slop remake will have no multiplayer
>>565606269I like that they actually give purpose to the open world, while in Destiny all those patrol spaces are just completely wasted and irrelevant after you finish the campaign and sidequests.
>>565606729>Except there are no more updates on the multiplayer game...but enough about dest*ny
>>565606762Outside of XP there ain't much to do in the open world of Div2. Eventually using general loot for expertise will dry up and you are left just donating materials instead for expertise levels. But now that prototype gear is in the game expertise is pointless to level since you can just get proto gear that is automatically expertise 30 giving you the 30% boost of w/e it is. I don't really know how you would make patrol useful again in D2 besides XP without radically changing the entire dynamic of the loot and rewards system. In D1 patrols gave you Vanguard and Faction reputation alongside other rewards depending on the patrol mission. Public events in D1 gave you a good chunk of loot for your first gold clear of the day but in D2 heroic PEs just give you FA though back in Y1 they shat out exotics which didn't really matter because everything was static.Over the years Bungie had some decent ideas to reinvigorate certain destinations mostly during Shadowkeep's year with the Bunkers and Obelisks. I think a permanent game feature that is a mixture of the bunkers and obelisks would be a good idea and have the upgrades cost planetary materials and it resets each season but comes with 1-2 new guns that come specifically from that bunker. Would be a vehicle to put new loot on old destinations and keep that content somewhat relevant permanently.
>>565576419Look at their vg general right now just for a taste. Its gloating about the fake numbers headline and the brief seconds I went in there someone was insulting tassi as a chud. It's basically a reddit colony of people who are too afraid of reddit mods to yell down naysayers.
>>565609026Lmao these troons have lost their minds
>>565612241>people criticize the retarded Indian netorare plot>shills latch into the WOKE BAD narrative and ignore all other issues
>>565612241I didnt know our xister tahnit was a SAARos GOD
I miss the fun movement this game has, or had I guess since it’s been nerfed a lot. Every time I think about booting it up, I just can’t bring myself to grind light level again, especially now in the portal, to get good weapons. Any other game have fun movement options and solid gunplay? Marathon looks like it has some, but the heat bar seems really restrictive and the type of game rewards patience and not being noticed
>>565613184Titanfall 2. Jumping and sliding will be a little bit different but you go zoomingUltrakillEcho point novaVoid breaker felt pretty floaty i think
I dont care for destiny 1
>>565616842good goy
>>565612241IZZAT AT CRITICAL LEVEL SAAR
>>565612241what were they thinking when they decided to make a game with an indian protagonist in an era where indian racism is normalized and socially acceptable
what do we do about the "marachad" problem?
Did this guy delete all his Destiny videos?
>mara "chad"
>>565619567Lol what the fuck? Incase you needed more evidence he was a plant
we need d2 classic now more than ever
>>565608050Destiny is literally getting an update in june, the same can't be said about halo
>>565619567Bungie is cleaning house
>>565619567Holy shit he did kek
>>565621821Halo has that shitty CE remake coming
Member roflwaffles
>>565608250You have to hit expertise 30 to get the boost from prototype gear. So the grind to unlock that is there, but after hitting max everything the only grind left is for rng(ish) high stat prototype builds. D2 would benefit from bringing back all of the seasonal weapon sets, updating their perk pools and intrinsics, and making them all destination loot. All of the enemy themed sets drop from their specific enemy faction on any destination. The sets that aren't enemy themed dropped from whatever destination or Lost Sector suits their theme best. Give people a reason to go farm taken in their edz lost sector for drops from the Dreadnought set. Or vex on the moon at the entrance to GoS for drops from that first vex season with the leafy sets, etc. No one is buying old battlepasses for crap loot, but they'd spend hundreds of hours in game trying to grind for that shit. And the time commitment is more likely to get people to spend money on future expansions, than any dollar commitment. Anyone who played D2 from launch through TFS has spent at least $500 on the game. That isn't reason enough to keep people playing obviously. People like being rewarded with loot for their time, not loot for their money.
>>565624359I remember when he got raped by that bald jew and his black twink boyfriend in the hot tub.
Saars the Marathon is going down, what the bloody fuck.
I'm watching cross play D1 and the strikes were so much better
west coast surge incoming
>>565625808I could mindlessly grind strikes all night in D1, they were great. They sucked in D2.
>>565625808I spent a dumb amount of time just mindlessly doing strikes in D1 especially when the heroic playlist happened. D2 could never.
You now remember Arc burn, small arms D1 strikes with Zhalo supercell
>>565626876
>>565624359What happened to him? The last thing I remember was him not leaving the raid race instance for Desert Perpetual and staying up for 3 days straight or something finishing it.
>>565627773Check bounced so he quit
>>565627773He went back to zombies because he actually gets views
Sorry chudsMarathon is here to stayDestiny is OUTMarathon is IN
>Hunt Showdown now has higher 24 hour peaks than MarathonThere's no way that Sony isn't forcing a D3 to happen this instant.>>565627773They brought him back to promote Cryo Archive's launch in Marathon. The playerbase never completed the community event for it though, Bungie just unlocked it after a week or so. Still fucking stupid that Bungie would rather pay people to say their game is good than have people promote it for free.
>>565630805>if we pay them, we can control what they say and guarantee it is positive>if we don't, we can't control what they say nor guarantee it is positiveThey only care about optics, the money isn't theirs so they have no worry spending it. It makes more sense when you think of it this way. Corpos always prefer shills to genuine fans for this reason.
>>565630685>few years>can't even promise a 10 year plan like DestinyJeez "never overdeliver" is the Bungie motto.
>>565630685a source?
Marathon is officially in the unrecoverable part of it's death spiral.>Because of low populations in foreign areas everyone will now have to deal with more and more laggy people in their lobbies>Everyone will be fighting the same players creating a dominated field by a few amount who stomp everyone else. Both of these combined make the poor player experience even more poor and make new players stray away from the game entirely. Even if bungie could have salvaged marathon its impossible now.
>>565632340Its a real article anon.>https://www.gamesradar.com/games/fps/bungie-doesnt-see-marathon-going-anywhere-we-know-where-we-want-to-take-the-story-over-the-next-few-years/>Getting the balance between an authored, interesting story and one that constantly reacts to players themselves is a tricky one, though, so Nardin explains the story of the colony before our arrival is "locked". Anyone playing the game can unearth what happened on Tau Ceti by completing contracts and collecting certain items, and Bungie plans on adding more clues to the planet's backstory as the game keeps "evolving in ways that are informed by its past and a future that excites our players.">Still, one of the most contentious things about the studio's other live service game, Destiny 2, is how it vaulted older content and inadvertently made it a pain for newcomers to catch up on the narrative that's currently unfolding. Bungie seems to be focusing on the onboarding experience in a much more careful manner here.>"It's also important that players can jump into Marathon at any time," Nardin adds. "They'll always be able to uncover the mysteries of Tau Ceti's past while experiencing its present. We want every season to be a new entry point, and for new players to be able to understand what’s going on regardless of how long we've all been running.">Marathon boss says extraction shooters are like The Lord of the Rings and that's why they need PvP
>>565633635>>Marathon boss says extraction shooters are like The Lord of the Rings and that's why they need PvPWhat the fuck does this even mean
>>565634076Had to go to the follow up article that was linked.>Speaking with GamesRadar+, Ziegler focuses on the secret to "a lot of great game experiences." In his view, it boils down to "the empowering feeling that you are in control to make a lot of decisions and deal with those consequences, learn from them, grow better as you encounter new decisions to make." This obviously isn't exclusive to extraction shooters or PvP games, but they can provide especially tense and unpredictable moments.>In this vein, extraction shooters wield a rare and potent mix of gameplay elements, Ziegler says. "This space between PVP and PVE is sort of the golden line that drives experiences like that. PVE provides a baseline of challenge that allows you to ground yourself in a predictable world with rules and behaviors you can understand, but the PVP layer pushes you to adapt to the whim and unexpected thoughts of other players," he continues.>Here, Ziegler expands on the vision he shared with us before Marathon was even released: a story generator with the recipe for "infinite" memorable experiences. On this point, he looks beyond video games and to classic literature – namely, The Lord of the Rings, which famously benefited immensely from PvPvE.>"I like to think of classic stories of adventure like The Lord of the Rings when thinking about games like this," Ziegler says, "where you can imagine the journey of Frodo and the Fellowship would have been way less interesting and suspenseful if all they encountered was dangerous wildlife on the way to Mount Doom and didn’t have other enemies out there unpredictably trying to steal the ring or end their journey."The author then ends the article with >Can't argue with that. Stew on this the next time you wish for a PvE mode for Arc Raiders. Would you really want a story that's nothing but Ents and Eagles?
>>565633078The solution is to enslave more jeets into playing in order to fill lobbies.
>>565630685>>565633635Found the real article
>>565633635>>565634378Holy fuck Bungie needs to end
>>565633078>officiallyyou're 2 months late
>>565635019I love these articles you make escharum poster
>>565635230I ain't the escharum poster but I find it funny to put him in them.
>>565621107What would D2 classic even be, everything before Beyond Light? Before subclass 3.0?
I love how this thread has become 90% marathon humiliation ritual, 9% destiny 1/2 nostalgia talk and 1% people talking about d2's future.
>>565635989Base, CoO, Warmind, Foreskin
Projected max concurrent player count for all platforms.Marathon: 24357Destiny 2: 55587
>>565612707Why does Tassi's Doomkino set tranny's off more than other doomposters, where did he get these powers.
>>565634378>The Lord of the Rings, which famously benefited immensely from PvPvE
>>565565602jealous marathon marketers? Who the fuck knows.
>>565576419They're blaming salty d2 players for an organized harrassment campaign. >>565580527Tassi apparently counts as a chud now.
>>565637703
is it even going to break yesterday's peak? i wonder what the stable audience for this game will be, i don't think it's done decreasing.
>>565625953>>565626341Seriously what is it about D1 strikes that makes them so grindable without them feeling like a slog? In D2 whenever you do them you just wanna get that shit over with asap but in 1 theyre so enjoyable to play through to the point where you can find yourself playing multiple in a row before finally going to orbit. Like some of the strikes in 2 are okay but never quite hit like D1 did despite basically following the same formula.
>try uploading 2 jew related videos to catbox>not workingIm starting to notice
>>565641843Competence and very fine tuning in a lot of ways that have become completely lost by optimizing for other shit, most notably novel shit to drive microtransactions and sweats. It's why Diablo 2 shits on the later versions.
>>565641493We won't know until the server reset. It's very possible that the drag from longer matchmaking at lower pop levels means there is no stable audience. I don't think it's that dire though.
>>565643931>I don't think it's that dire though.Their numbers are worse than Destiny 2's
>>565643931i think this game's stable population is triple digits, on a long enough time frame. it will be low four digits for a long time, probably 2-3k. marathon is possibly going to get shut down, maybe after a year, maybe even sooner.
>>565644376I'm talking strictly from a static game, with no dev or cosmetics that's just got servers up. The WSTR's clearly in Sony's hands.>>565644738I think at low 4 digits, it's unstable and will collapse. They'd have to do something drastic like forced random trio fills as the only game mode well before that. I'm curios which will shut down first. Marathon or Fairgame$?
TANIKS HAS NO HOUSE
>>565649412Was thinking about him earlier today, funniest nigga in this series, He's died like 4 times now and somehow always came back.
>>565652308Nobody beats my GOAT Kelgorath
>>565639090It’s because he’s not a shitposter or some nobody on the right making videos about how Bungie is WOKE and how the devs are TRIGGERED, it’s because he’s simply a long term Bungie fan that’s just honest with his criticisms and presents them in a rational manner where there isn’t remotely any political bias to use against him. Not only that, he has insider sources at Bungie who gave him information like>Shadow and Order will be delayed from its original March 5th release date. We may kick it down the road to May but it’s not shaping up to be anything major.>Yeah, those sales estimates aren’t that far from the actual numbers. We’ve only sold 1.1 million copies as of April and most of the playerbase is on PC.This truly angers them because they think “He’s not a chud, he’s on OUR side! Why is he doing this to US during Bungie’s time of need?!?”. >>565646747Random trio fills would genuinely kill the game. It only works for ranked or Cryo because you’re forced into it, and even then you’ll likely get raped by a premade team that has tons of golds while your team is trying but is nowhere near close. Random trios means the squadfills might consist of free kits and greens going up against purple and golds while there’s a bunch of Rooks working together to rape everyone with their claymores.
>>565654370>Yeah, those sales estimates aren’t that far from the actual numbers. We’ve only sold 1.1 million copies as of April and most of the playerbase is on PC.I'm still perplexed by the diehard marakeks who know this and discredit him based on feels, and have people everywhere being able to tell the game is dying either anecdotally through matchmaking time/quality or literally through green line charts, and they still fall back to fictitious numbers pulled from nowhere.
>>5655974505 bucks it is then
Did anyone else feel like the light and dark saga felt kind of unresolved for some reason? Like, I don't feel like we ever really countered the Winnower's point since the only way we can meaningfully interact with this world is via killing.
>>565660269>for some reason
Does anyone have a better resolution version of this image?
>>565662325SIVA is dead chud. Take your Quicksilver injection.
>two hunters in a rowThat's a skip
>>565662325Don't think it exists anywhere. Couldn't find a decent high-res without it being upscaled or tampered with.Maybe it was in some press kit or something, doubtful, but it'll take some real Destiny beard to find it.
Is Division Resurgence worth playing?
>>565671114why would you play the mobile slop when the main games are so cheap?
>>565671379I've played both Division games before.
>>565641493>thursday was the week's peakdon't think that's happened before
>>565671114Nah, its just Division 1 but mobile slopified.
>>565662325>>565669764check the discord
Concord 4 has already flopped
>>565679427[Heartwarming News]
>>565679427wtf is this character design?? How is this appealing to anyone?
>>565669764>Iron lords have a clear knight/viking aesthetic in D1>D2 turns them into samurai for some reasonExplain this retardation.
>>565681036Not enough asian representation chud. Those are too white coded.
>>565679427The magazine in that guys gun is facing the wrong way lol
Lol these niggas can't be serious
>>565682659>Adding a destination>AmbitiousThats the bare minimum lmao.
>old chiraq in 2026this isnt copium, its just straight up delusion
>>565682659>>565683112This guy is perhaps even more delusional than Llama.
WE GOTTA BIND THE NINE>go jerk off to some fake dredgen Tex Mechanica nepobaby retard across 3 planets (being led by one of the nine because angry planet got the Darkness juice)WE GOTTA FIND THE CLUES TO 3'S DEATH>go jerk off to some fan fiction 60 - 70s Glowie office building that just happen to have SCP tier objects (because the nine)GUARDIAN WE GOTTA SAVE THE CITY>Ikora go full retard even further (because the nine wills it)
Do you think the Nine planned for marathons death?
This June update will be the only "content" Destiny gets for the year. It may be the last update ever, I don't see them doing anything major after fucking the game up so badly.
>portal not removed>tiered loot not removedshan't be playing
I have alot of higher standards for destiny if they ever want me to return and I dint see any of that shit happening considering bungies standards
>>565683260>AphelionWhen are they going to let that go?
>>565684261Why are the Nine being jacked off so much? If they were always this powerful why didn't they just bitch slap the witness, Hive, vex, etc earlier?
>d2 uninstalled for months now>june update is just more slop added to the trough >remember I'm not even LL 350 so I don't even get the meaty parts of le slop, only the gruel I assume the majority of people they're trying to wrangle back are in a similar boat, and considering how quiet they're being about what's in the update I'm also assuming there's nothing in there for me.What the FUCK are they thinking?
>>565668436shid did I miss efrideet
>>565687987>If they were always this powerfulthey weren't
>>565688478Bungie doesn't think, they don't even play their games.
>>565683260>Destiny 3Why oh why they fuck do these retards still trust bungie to make another Destiny?????????? I'd trust a hyper tard wrangled team to operate and maintain a D1 rerelease on steam, but thats it. And even then they'd find a way to fuck it up.
>>565691537Stockholm syndrome
https://youtube.com/watch?v=EOCiEj6bQCQ&pp=ygUJYXp0ZWNyb3NzIt's up
SAAAAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRR PLAY THE FUCKING MARATHONS
>>565693072Guess bungie ran out of the sony ad money
HALO won...........
>>565695270fuckking great, more remakes
>>565693556No
>Lost another 3k players this week When is marathon supposed to stabilize?
The current state of the maratroon
>>565634378holy shit these people are insane
>>565695927>average bungo salary is 100k+>Maraflop in dev for 6 years>400 developers or more rn on Marathon>2 animated short trailers one by an oscar winning animater and one with music done by an actual band and singer>studio in bellevue washington which is super expensive to be based inAww gee wizz, Bungie must've actually made it on a budget for half a tube of pringles and 4 jelly beans and that Paul Chuddi guy is obviously lying about the $250 million cost.Even if you disregard what Tassi said with just some basic maths you can come to $200+ million in costs
comparing your shitty slop shooter to lord of the rings sums up bungie's delusional hubris perfectly
>>565695270>HALO wonYay, more UE5 AI slop, exactly what everyone wanted, praise Nadela
>>565699005The only reason MS will not die while under his leadership is because of how integrated it is to everyone, because by god he is trying to sink the company with his AI bullshit
>>565695270>343 Halo Studios is definitely going to alter the games and move away from the real canon of Humans being the Forerunners>UE5 slop>Remaking games that already have been remade except 3>No Forge at launch for 3 incoming>Theatre mode won't existHalo has been raped and now all we are waiting for is Microsoft to finally put it out of its misery though they might just keep parading around the corpse and who knows in 2060 we might be getting a re-remake of Halo 1 again this time on UE8.
>>565699005>UE5 slopWas about to say, yeah, that shit looks terrible. The updated fidelity is something any dev can do in that janky ass engine, but the actual vibes and stylization of the game's looks are something that needs specialized attention.
>>565699352>going to alter the games and move away from the real canon of Humans being the ForerunnersAnon, they done that a long time ago with H4, the truly retarded shit they can is start to hint at the Banished as the bigger thread than the Covenant and start bullshiting around about THE ENDLESS
>>565699661It looks straight out of those "NINTENDO HIRE THIS MAN" videos, they just upped the fidelity and didn't care if it clashed with everything else around so that everything looks out of place and fake
>>565699819Oh yeah I knew they did that in 4 and onwards but they are most definitely going to alter the story in these remakes as well. Halo is just ultimately completely raped both narratively and in gameplay.
>>565699967They couldn't even be bothered to update a bunch of the designs and still claim everything we see is made from the ground up. And when it was called out that a bunch of the enemies and other stuff are reused assets, their shill army claimed it's due to it being a work in progress. Only later to be confirmed, these designs are final.
>>565599543The lightning is fucking leagues better man, what the fuck happened.
>>565700421jews and trannies happened
>>565695927You have to assume at a certain point that these people are just trolls, because while neither Bungie or Sony have officially confirmed its production budget (and with how the dev costs should in theory be cheaper with how it borrowed some mechanics if not possibly environments from D2, Dire Marsh and Cryo Archive feel fairly similar to the Throne World and Braytech Facilities), nothing points to it being a low cost game. >>565696437 already summed it up, but there's also the fact that Marathon's page on MobyGames lists 2753 professional roles that were credited with its development, many of these were outsourced but it consists of various sound or technological engineers, artists and animators, QA Testers, people in charge of business or marketing campaigns, voice actors in different languages, localization teams, ect. Even if they were only involved with the game up to a certain point in development or they didn't really work on the game (ie: People that worked at HR or executive positions at the studios Bungie outsourced work to), that's still money that went to their pockets. And this is on top of the salary that was paid to the many Bungie employees that worked on the game full time, even if some people may not even be at the company anymore due to the company's layoffs after Final Shape and even before then.
>>565563670Soon
>12k on a sunday afternoonSAAR YOU MUST GET IN THE BLOODY MARATHON NOW
>>565706607We may sooner get this in Rising than D2 or D3.
No one is playing Bungie games anymore.
soon enough WE will be back exploring the new pacific arcology
>>565708932
>>565709545>weNo thanks
Okay, I tried Division Resurgence and it's fucking dogshit.
Monkey paw. We get Destiny 3 but it's extraction shooter. All PVE activities are now mashed up with PVPfags.
highest destiny steam peak since late march and late february.
>>565714963That's just Marathon 2
>>565714108wow a mobile game based on a pc/console game was shit who'd a thunk it?
>>565683260He just threw in a bunch of old abandoned lore threads and called it info
>>565639090>>565654370Tassi is one of the best gaming press journalists in the industry. As terrible as it is. He clearly deliniates the difference between op ed and news. He specifies sources, and most importantly, he's been very consistent, particularly with Bungie.
>>565714963There is zero doubt in my mind that they were hoping that Marathon would do well so they can Ctrl C + Ctrl V it’s formula into a D3 that would just be Marathon 2026 - II in all but name. But the high player drop rate probably spooked them too high to where it wouldn’t even be a Gambit replacement.>>565714108It really made me appreciate Rising more, not just because it uses Netease’s proprietary engine over mobile UE but because of how it more smartly adapted Destiny’s framework to phones and tablets.
>>565718482>>565718670AAAAAAAAAAIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
LOL
>>565718863>to where it wouldn’t even be a Gambit replacement.An extraction shooter would be cool as a gamemode among a list of other stuff. When did having a list of gamemodes in fps multiplayer games go out of fashion anyway? It seems like we only get a few handful now in current games, and they often overlap in feels. It looks like only CoD and Halo do it, but only because they're grandfathered in.
Imagine we live in a world where bungie kept their first "alpha" nda'd like originally planned, and that the art scandal didn't happen until it released in september
>>565718863Rising is dogshit too, I had all the gold characters up until stella but the gameplay loop is just annoying.
>>565719862kwab
Doomgods, how are we feeling about how hard marathon is flopping? It's honestly a lot worse than I was predicting
>>565723620Invigorated!
>>565723620>It's honestly a lot worse than I was predictingKinda funny to know that even doomgods had higher expectations for the game.
>>565723779I was sure Marathon would get over 100k on steam at launch. I couldn't believe it sold less than Veilguard
>>565722447The issue with the extraction gamemode is that it's hard to integrate into a looter gamemake it endgame and there's no point in running it, make it a sidegrade and no one will bother to run it(dark zone in division)
>>565723620seems to be right on track to f2p sometime this october/november
>>565724380That's true. The extraction shooter audience are just a different breed, I suppose.
>>565695270lmao that shit is going to be so ass.
>>565724380The Dark Zone did have exclusive loot back in the day and that was one of its main draws, plus it's not as punishing as most modern extraction shooters are, you only lose the stuff you caught while inside the DZ which is a lot more tolerable and fair than straight up having to rebuild your character after every match.
>>565722447>When did having a list of gamemodes in fps multiplayer games go out of fashion anyway?Around 2010-2015, I think. Having more game modes means splitting the player count, thus resulting in frequent and longer wait times. And unless you're a game that has nearly a million players minimum, it's better to funnel your player base to as few game modes as possible. That's why CoD can still do it, and nuHalo has fewer game modes on hand but occasionally rotates them weekly, which is a smart solution at least. I don't know what Fortnite does, but I assume they have the freedom to have a bunch of game modes for their massive audience.
>>565723620>It's honestly a lot worse than I was predictingSame, I really thought it would still be doing 40-50k by this point. But I'm happy, everyone at Bungie deserves to be raped.
>>565723620RAAAAAAHHHHH!!!!MY DOOM GROWS STRONGER BY THE DAY!
>>565725354>>565724380Is there any reason to do Div2 darkzone?>>565726534The move away from splitscreen or local multiplayer is what really killed games having multiple gamemodes. Games were fresh when you were playing with only your friends, and you could fuck around in a dozen different gametypes for hundreds of hours easily. Online only you have no connection with the other players, so shit is less fun, and you're never going to veer away from the intended playstyle because how could you? If the lobby is only you and your friends, you can create custom rules on the fly, or experiment with physics. Online lobbies, even with custom rulesets, are still just a race to end the match as soon as possible for the xp/currency for your battlepass/gear upgrades. Online mp is just farming now, when it used to be about having fun.
>>565727403>The move away from splitscreen or local multiplayerFuck, I forgot about that equation. But yeah, I agree. The shift from that and other social features that were more abundant back then essentially led to a domino effect of consequences that didn't need to happen.
>>565727403>Is there any reason to do Div2 darkzone?still some exclusive / rarely sold gear in there if you're a collector. but if you're only interested in the current power curve then nah not really. it's nice that it's in the game but it's not relevant anymore
>>565726534>splitting the player countBut why would a tdm only player play a game that only has free-for-all?
>sub 15k sunday peak
>Bug men go offline>Game still barely has any players less than 2 months after release
>>565728084Are you asking about for Halo's case? They should have slayer on all the time unless I'm missing something. I haven't touched Infinite in a long time but I do remember them having some bullshit thing going on where slayer wasn't there in the beginning and was only brought back because players spoke up about it.
>>565728718100k arc raider players. marasissies really must be in shambles.
I just want an FPS sci-fi game that hasn't been ruined by corpos, is that so much to ask for? I'd love a new title even, but it doesn't look like anyone is making one that fits the criteria.
>>565729717Fragmentary Order is for you, if you can put up with extraction shooters.
>>565727782I spent more time fucking around in forge on Sandtrap than i have on the hundred videogames i've purchased since then with the exclusion of Titanfalls, Destinys, and Divisions.
>>565729717Play D1
>>565729878Looks visually interesting, but it doesn't fit the criteria, unfortunately. I'll probably try it out anyway, just for the hell of it. I never know if I might like it. Thanks.
>>565730149I did. I'd love for a PC release, but I'm sure Bloodborne has better chances to release on PC than D1, so I'm not holding my breath.
>>565729878>niggitai can only hope he'll be dumb enough to make the server easy to emulate like tarkov
>>565730079Forge mode is awesome. Current forge looks crazy good in capability but the downside I've read everywhere is that it is now too complex for the average person to really utilize, even if their map idea concept is simple. I can't say personally since I haven't tried it myself.
>>565730698Some dude apparently made a Destinyesque raid in the new forge mode. I quit halo after 5. 343 won't fool me a third time.
>>565731789I saw that and it looks so cool. He addresses why raids wouldn't really work in Halo in the grand scheme of things, but would still be fun to have, and I agree. That's the problem, though, plenty of stuff in our life is not necessary, but we have it because "it's neat" but that reasoning won't fly well with game studios. If there’s no reason to add something beyond monetary gain, they won’t do it. And this line of thinking is pretty much why a lot of our favorite stuff is degrading over time.
we wuz race 5 n shiet
OHOHOHOHO... THIS IS ALMOST TOO EASY... LITTLE RAPED BITCH
>>565732727I'm gooning to their tiger OC just to show them.
>>565723620Feels good, man.
>>565732727>Couldn't even get 15k today Holy fuck lol. Might drop below 10k in 2 weeks
Capcom won
AAAAAIIIIIIEEEEE.....
>>565735291Forced
I will always be gentle with Marasissy's bussy.
>>565733492That is beyond grim. I think we need to send a wellness check on bungie bros
THE NEW WEEK RAPE APPROACHES
Finality takes shape... Tahnit raped in Marathon and cannot do Cryo.
>>565738246This dude doesn't even play the game yet is defending it 24/7
>>565723620I feel like I should feel a bit bad that it's blowing so much ass but then I think of destiny and I remember that they deserve it.
>>565732727the playerbase is getting RAPED. marathon will be RAPED to death.
>>565679427Marathon lives another day
>>565679427literally who
Why’d they get rid of vendor ranks?
Gummy bears will save destiny and marathon. Trust the plan
>>565743638Incompatible with tiered loot
>>565743638Too much work for Bungie
>marathon flopped>destiny has more players >bungie employees in shambles>dmg blocking everyonebest timeline
Is there any word on PvP changes or updates coming with Shadow and Order?
>>565746030Bungie has a gag order until June, chud.
>>565746030June.
>>565746030Marathon is the PvP game chud stop playing your unc PvE game.
>we are not gonna talk about the update, words are just words, we'll let the content do the talking>June comes around, the content is shit, recycled, and minimal>dmg goes on a whole "why is everybody so mean 2 me?" spiel on Twitter, proceeds to private his account
>blud thinks bungie will still exist in junelol
>me playing Destiny and Marathon still
>>565723620Not satisfied until nuBungie is dissolved. May 8 can't come soon enough, hope that investor meeting is fucking juicy.
>>565679427Are they mandated by lizard cabal to include this character in every fucking game?
There's no way in hell we're actually hitting under 15k on a SUNDAY
>>565750778unironically yes
Projected max concurrent player count for all platforms.Marathon: 23611Destiny 2: 57887
>>565751159This is exactly what Sony wanted
LOG IN NOW YOU BLOODY CHUDS WE CAN'T LET IT GO UNDER 15K
>13.949 people playing Marathon right nowFucking hell it's literally under 15k right now
MUP DA DOO DIDDA PO MO GUB BIDDA BE DAT TUM MUHFUGEN BIX NOOD COF BIN DUB HO MUHFUGGA
>couldn't break 15k at first peak>couldn't break 14k at second peakTHEIR RAPE DRAWS CLOSER!
>the numbers are fine>the console numbers are much higher than steam>the wipe will bring people back>the update will bring people in
SONY WANTED THIS, YOU STUPID FUCKING CHUDS
No.... NOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>Destiny used to make a ton of money, one of the few successful live service games in existence>Kill Destiny to work on a game that doesn't make money>The game comes out and doesn't make money>Now they have two live service games that don't make moneyWhat was the plan here?
>>565753906Death that is the plan. To be raped by Sony was the plan and still is. Its funny that Destiny currently makes more money than Marathon and also Marathon getting outsold by Arc Raiders on ste- oh wait hang on thats correct but also wrong it was being outsold by Arc Raiders but also a seperate cosmetic pack for Arc Raiders on steam.
>>565754095>oh wait hang on thats correct but also wrong it was being outsold by Arc Raiders but also a seperate cosmetic pack for Arc Raiders on steam.kek
>>565754095Death is just the first step of their master plan.
>>565754474When are we getting a Escharum Bohemian Rapsody cover?
>>565728951They still non-stop repeat how arc raiders was a flop.
>>565754474>master plan
KWAB
>>565754835BLOODY FUCKING SAARS NOOOO!
>>565754835
>>565755540why did he stop uploading?
>>565755596He's studying the second comeback
>>565755540good lord the wall of ugly green
>>565753906There was no long term plan when you get down to it, and that's truly the main thing that fucked up Marathon. Individually I think the parts that make up the game are pretty good, like the gun animations, the environments, and some of the background information about the world itself. The mystery of whether the Tau Ceti IV colonizers are just imagining things or whether the planet is actually a massive living organism that is fighting back (on top of esoteric imagery which could hint towards something paranormal), the world building can be a strength for the game despite there being no shortage of dry and forgettable entries either. But at the same time the lore is held hostage to an extraction shooter, where players in this genre could give a shit less about anything that gets in the way of them ratting or griefing others. And there's nothing else to do in Marathon if you either don't like extraction shooters or you're sick and tired of getting repeatedly pubstomped in Cryo Archives by premade teams that have gold gear while your team only has blues and purples at most. There's no solo PvE mode to complete main story contracts without fear of being griefed, there's no standard arena death match modes if you just want to mellow out, if you hit a brick wall of progress and you're tired of getting raped then you either wait until the next seasonal content drop comes out or you just drop the game because you've realized that it isn't for you. Despite Bungie sinking in $200 million+ into the game, they've never once accounted for the latter situation happening and it shows.
>>565755596Escharum captured him....
>>565756635W-what did he do to him?
Rape
>him
>I have a vagina now
>>565757572built 4 BEC (Big Escharum Cock)
>>565757572God I hate this fag so much
>>565755908i think bungo just expected that it would somehow just "work" and everything would fix itself. once they have a captive playerbase, they don't really need to worry about making a coherent game anymore. the devs just do whatever the fuck they want with the game, and the cuck players, whales, and goyim buy the microtransactions/season passes/etc.
>Marathon flopped
>Why did Marathon flop?>It was Sony, right?I guess, dude. Maybe, i don't know. Somebody needs to study it, I guess.
>>565753906Maximize short term profit with the lowest possible investment.Execs are on their way out with their golden parachutes, they couldn't give less fucks about the long-standing future of the studio or franchise, it's no longer their problem.I bet all of that shit looked real exiting and cool on paper for Sony. Too bad they were scammed by nuBungie.
>>565760725>Pretty much everything comes down to the S2 launch.>The worst map in the game but at nightGee, I wonder what all happen.
>cant play invasion unless you are level 3 with the totality divisionhow queer
what day will the 24 hour peak on steam for destiny 2 be above marathon?
>>565762636May 14th
>Streamers couldn't finish the Niobe Labs ARG because of shitty hints and bad controls, event fails, Bingle has to unlock Niobe Labs manually.Front page news, giant debacle, countless discussions>Streamers couldn't finish the Cryo Labs ARG because of ratters and griefers, event fails, Bingle has to unlock Cryo Labs manually.Nobody cares.It's amazing what Bingle gave up.
>>565763096i cant see the webm filename anymoredid something change?
>>565758609It wouldn't be surprising, Bungie really seems to be in their "Bioware magic" phase where their games all come together at the 11th hour. And even Bioware gave up on that after Anthem, Veilguard wasn't great but at least they were able to retool a planned live service game into a singleplayer one.>>565760903Unless they have some good story elements planned out, they plan on implementing some form of SBMM and MMR tracking or they're going to experiment more with a focus on PvE, the wipe and launch of Season 2 will not help the game with how anemic it is.
>>565763096Why the fuck did 343 ship this?
>>565764875They knew Escharum would be a villain that would surpass even them, he would be a villain capable of raping even Bungie themselves. They released Infinite just so they could unleash him onto the world.
>>565768718Why did they do it?
Erm... roadmap status?
>>565769267check back in two weeks
>>565769267Mark your calendars true believers. Friday, May 8, 2026, at 4:00 PM. Tokyo time.SONY INVESTOR CALL.
>>565769384What the fuck were they thinking
>>565760903bungo will wipe their playerbase for season 2. they're fucked. i don't think anyone who left during season 1 will come back for season 2.
Sources tell me the roadmap is stable.Please god
no matter what bungie say or what they dowhen im alone id rather be with d2fuck these other niggas ill be right by bungies side 'til 3005
Blast status?
>>565774228Raped.
>>565753906to waste time until their stocks vest and leave sony with nothing
I started playing Soulframe a few days ago and got hooked, the bear scene is actually kino in the context of the story.
>Soullessframe
i cant sleep and have been up since 12am
they cant lie to themselves anymore, even the game itself is telling them they can't
>>565781384>just start the match without a full lobbyThis would mean they can engage in PVE marginally safer than before, and this CANNOT be permitted. They NEED to be shot in the rectum for DARING to do anything at all except silently creep around the map hunting people who aren't.
>>565781384Lol
>>565781384Saar can't find games.
Layoffs status?
>>565774228Still had it (1,1k hours).Never done proper raid.Never went to dungeons with randoms.Dungs and raids are too much nerd activities for me.Solo grinding and spending $ on cosmetics.Most time spent on neptune or moon public events.I see that most players are burnt out, not happy with what happened with destiny in general.Ah, almost forgot - NEVER DONE PVP, FUCK PVP TRANNIES (not sexual way).
>>565783063Inevitable
>>565783497Ah, the mythical 65%er. Bungo in the past said that the majority of players were patrol space heroes.Now, with that said, why did they decide to gut patrol spaces then? If that's the type of content the majority enjoyed, why did they decide not to make them anymore? Retards.
>>565783706>Now, with that said, why did they decide to gut patrol spaces then?Personally, I think this was the reaction to Lightfall's patrol space, and them hearing a bunch of feedback and then kneejerking it, and the praise of The Final Shape made them believe that the Pale Heart was a good idea and that everything should be linear or contained and shitty.People never REALLY complained about patrol spaces until like somewhere between Witch Queen and Ligthfall I feel like, asking for more or demanding something difficult, but its like listening to the people who do the raids every week on all difficulties in that case. You're ignoring everyone who's silently enjoying what's already there. You can go back and look at these complaints too, its all>no one is on patrol, why would we do that? enemy density is so low!>there's no reason to be on patrol because there's nothing to do in these locations, its easy and they give no rewardsYet funnily enough I remember numerous times enjoying myself playing escalation protocol even beyond Warmind. Blind Well is cool but I wish it was a little more integrated into the entire map. These activities don't have to necessarily be difficult for people to want to engage with them they just have to be rewarding and fun to play. No one was complaining about how easy it is to kill the Warrior in Borderlands 2, they farmed it for the drops and because the fight was somewhat novel, its like a shitty Riven.I don't even particularly think Neptune's patrol is a bad area with nothing to do in it, its just that it flings from constant awarness and alert to a string of nothing that even somewhere like Nessus lacks. At least Nessus looks cool when you're going from one area to the next.But Bungie took the wrong lesson and decided that patrol zones are outdated and bad, so fuck what people were actually laying back and casually enjoying silently. D1 patrolling has less to do and I still wanna go get my PS4 and boot up Plaguelands.
They could've very easily expanded UPON patrols to fix actual issues with making it more social, which really was the "problem" with patrols, but Bungie thinks they need to re-invent the formula every 2 years for some reason.The complaints about escalation protocol were "we can't rely on the shit servers, its like Court of Oryx in D1 all over again". When they could've easily modified patrol zones to work better, or to matchmake instances. Joining fireteams together if you happened to stumble across people in the same map so you could persist. Rewards were in the fucking game with Flashpoints, with titles, with lore entries and a ton of other shit to do. If they actually bothered to add new armor and weapons into the game then we could've had patrol-specific loot for activities.I don't know how Bungie managed to get the idea that patrols weren't difficult enough for the lone player from feedback that originated back from Court of Oryx. How they spent almost an entire year with public events being the best way to get your light level up in D2 and then missing the forest for the smallest rotten dead tree with no leaves about 4-5 years later
uhso surely there's an update going on right now, right?its a holiday in the UK right now
each morning d2 is above marathon in steam concurrents.
>>565798184Punished Paul arc is kino
>>565798184When he says that there’s 10 hyper defenders he’s really not joking, it’s mostly the same few names. And they’re really reaching with some of their defences for nuMarathon.
>asking a nuMarathon fan what happened to the colonists on Tau Ceti>asking a nuMarathon fan what actual overaching plot stuff is in the game>asking a nuMarathon fan what part of the lore is good apart from "funny corporate emails and messages"
How does destiny still have no real competition
why is this nigga pretending his online handle isn't aztec ross, because his name is ross, and he's larping as an aztec?
>>565802918kek
>>565802918
>dmg has gone oddly silent on twitter>not even posting retweets or repliesOh nonononono the rapeoffs are coming for Bungie LMAO
cross is spicy today>someone whining about cross mentioning marathon>shows this picture>points to destiny 2>this is my game at its worst>at its absolute worst>points to marathon>and this is your game
>>565804090correct yourself, it's ross. we see him for who he is around these parts
>>565804225i have no idea why you keep spamming this jewish indian meme
