Ganger Girl EditionPreviously on /coopg/: >>565275956>Latest News/Updates:Darktide:‘Beyond the Hive’ is out. Patch notes:https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/beyond-the-hive-free-update-out-now-patch-1-11-0-expeditions/119479Kuli's guides for beginners:https://steamcommunity.com/id/kulii/myworkshopfiles/?section=guides&appid=1361210Space Marine 2:Hotfix 12.3 Patch Noteshttps://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/381-hotfix-12-3-patch-notesDude Wallhttps://dudewall.github.io/dude-wall/Vermintide 2:Hotfix 6.9.2 patch noteshttps://store.steampowered.com/news/app/552500/view/523109140338311330>Also Exist:Deep Rock GalacticHelldivers 2PaydayThe Outlast TrialsStarship Troopers ExterminationAliens: Fireteam EliteKilling Floor 2BarotraumaLeft4Dead 2Ready Or NotGTFONo More Room in Hell 2Remnant 2Back4BloodEarth Defense Force 6WWZThe Forever WinterFBC: FirebreakKilling Floor 3Daimon BladesJohn Carpenter's Toxic Commandoand others>Future gamesDen Of Wolves - TBADarkSwarm - TBABlight: Survival - TBADeep Dish Dungeon - TBA>Build planners:Vermintide 2: http://ranaldsgift.com/Deep Rock Galactic: http://karl.gg/Darktide: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor
>>565573082You forgot Far Far West.
>>565573372>nah bro you can talk about any game here it's not just darktide general>*aggressively refuses to add the only not doa coop game in ages to the OP so people can't find this thread when they search for it*
>>565573805dude chillax this was an emergency thread
>>565573894were the last 3 threads emergency threads, because that's how long people have been saying to add it to the OP
>>565573372>>565573805If you actually cared that much you would have made the next thread and added it yourselves.
You need to have cleared an Area 41 or Canyon mission on Nightmare difficulty at least once to post in this general.
>>565574142But I dont.
>play 5 missions as vanguard or sniper for infiltrator helm>played 1 as sniper, 1 as vanguard, decide to do the rest later>got the helmet anyway?????????
>>565573805Uh oh! Melty!
For me it's longranger and boomerang.
>>565574498But I wanna wait for more updates first...
>>565574473>pull out melee instead of panic jumping>push once>they all stagger
does the bug where a player's animation gets frozen happen on the client side, or is it visible to everyone? this guy spent the entire operation pretending to be a ravener and i thought it was hilarious, but i was afraid that if i mention it in the chat they will think i'm insane and kick me.
>>565575759>"hey anon your animations are super bugged on my screen, what does it look like for everyone else?">"oh haha no it looks fine on my end">"huh weird okay">continue playing like normalHave you tried not being autistic
There are so many threads on the far far west steam forums crying because there's no achievements, I thought the first few were b8 but some of them are written politely. Do people ACTUALLY give a fuck about steam achievements?
SCORE SOME KARKING GOALS IMPERIUM
>>565576725>Do people ACTUALLY give a fuck about steam achievements?Yes, deeply.There is a whole subset of gamers who really really deeply care about achievements. I remember there being an entire community that would autistically scan all of your games' achievement dates/times to double check you didn't cheat them in.Makes me wonder how those retards feel about games like ToME having a zillion achievements, most of which are just copies of each other for completing shit on each class across like 8 difficulties each lmao
>>565576725It's this attitude unironically.
>>565576725>Do people ACTUALLY give a fuck about steam achievements?kids literally refuse to play games until they get achievements.
>>565575921https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LyZv4EghX_I
Are most guns in Darktide shit? I've been playing veteran and the only two weapons I've liked have been the infantry lasgun and recon lasgun.
ayooo fellow Ultramarine successor! my dudee! *reaches out hand*
>>565578071No only half of them.Try boltgun, bolt pistol, plasma, laspistol, helbore
>>565578071About 2/3rds of the weapons are complete filler garbage Fatshark refuses to improve beyond token buffs thrown their way once per year that gets the community hyped for a week until they realize it means nothing in a post-dueling sword world.
none of you retards are ready for this hot ticket build
>>565578225fuck me i don't have a clue what chapter this is
Is someone here playing Far Far West? How is it?
>>565577014
>>565578680I prefer the punch blessing on the knife, Slaughterer turns off during boss fights.>PBB single stubberI'm ready for you to kill yourself
>>565578071Most weapons aren't balanced to work well above malice, and malice is the only level fatshark cares to balance for.
>>565578452I miss the vermintide weapon balance where there were certain grossly overpowered weapons but the floor of adequacy was higher and you could pretty much use any weapon on cata with the right build
>notice something is missingso is the ratfag also the threadbaker?
Now that the dust has settled, what was the point of crowbar?
>>565579714lets you juggle crushers while Desperado/stimm is on cooldown
>>565579714rampage+opportunist+superiority+stimm gets you up to 65% rending, 87,5% melee strength and probably some other stuff I'm forgetting
>>565579714To spit in the faces of their players
>>565575432>veteran>meleeCouldn't be me.
>>565580447oh yeah+30% attack speed and +25% melee damage too, if you take adrenaline frenzyand there's some other nodes in the tree too if you want extra cleave or attack speed
Bros I am really excited for Skitussy
>>565580447>>565580986You can take all of these on rashad for double base damage and 90% base carapace penetration on heavy attacks
Far Far West protip:A stick of dynamite breaks gold ore, same as explosions in DRG.
>>565582517rashad doesn't have opportunist you silly goose
>>565578765It's fun, I've already gotten 24 hours out of it so I've gotten my money's worth and I'm not bored yet.
Tried out that new espionage pack in payday 2, guns are eh, haven't tried the dart, ballerina is a less concealable secondary cavity, but that laser wristwatch is fantastic. Completely able to ignore any door that needs a saw, which saves like 4 minutes on certain heists.
What do the cool kids stack when it comes to trinketsToughness, health, wounds, one of each?
>>565587948I love cooldowns>b-butI love cooldowns
>>565587948cooldown reduction on every curiowounds are a meme unless you're a martyrdom zealot+HP and +toughness are good, but I also like to use one +stamina curioput gunner resistance on 2 of them, it goes a long way
>low levels join hard difficulties and up>die >leavesWhy
>>565590131>high levels join hard difficulties and up>die >spergs out in chat>leaves
>>565587948>woundsLargely a crutch, and a bad one. It's okay to go up to 3 wounds total if you're bad and not comfortable with the next difficulty yet, but you should make an effort to not need it. Usually taking +1 on psyker if you're really shit at managing peril is fine, but git gud.>toughnessUsually meta on most classes, always a safe choice. Not much to explain here. Taking toughness curios is more cost effective than taking toughness perks.>healthUsually niche and situational.Zealot has a good build with full health investment.Arbitrator likes 1 health curio with True Grit.I believe low health classes should run at least 1 health curio with corruption resistance in corruption havoc modifier. This is the subject of a lot of skubbing, but I strongly believe health to be optimal on psyker. It's not about what's efficient, of course full toughness is more efficient at taking damage, but you should be getting crits to become projectile immune and otherwise dodge/slide, so toughness becomes a lot less useful. The things that actually kill you usually go to your health. Some nigger will always blow up a burster in your face. You will sometimes fuck up and get caught with your pants down, which health mitigates better than toughness. Don't forget that Just a Dream and Immaterial Focus work on health. Obviously full toughness is fine still.>stamina3 full stamina is meta on scum.1 stamina is necessary for Deadshot veterans.Pskyer and arbitrator shouldn't need it to sprint, ever. You generate stamina during your slide. Sprint and slide more. Not terrible on psyker if your melee weapon has horrible stamina, but if you can afford Warp Ghost, take that instead.>perksCDR, gunner resist, revive speed are usually meta. Stamina perks are fine, build depending. Flamer resist is great on melee classes. Bomber resist is great on scum. 5% toughness/health are a meme. Corruption resist is mostly a havoc thing.
>>565591754I don't get it. I'll play in a hard+ server solo until someone joins, and half the time it's someone rank 2 or lower. The only strategy they know is to stand in one spot and shoot at what's in front of them. Then the two of us die and they leave. Rinse and repeat. Why can't they play normal or something
>>565587948>>565591769>5% toughness/health are a meme.To clarify: You're likely already running toughness and/or health curios, and the stacking is purely additive. You're getting +5% of your flat base value, not +5% on top of the +34% you already have. This may literally mean just +8 toughness or so. Think about what actually makes you take a knee, and whether 8 toughness would've helped there.It's also important to note that trash melee attacks only care about your percentage of toughness, not the flat value, and that you should not be getting hit in melee when you're below 100% toughness in the first place. +% toughness only gives you a marginal increase to this buffer.The situations that will actually kill you, like failing to dodge a mutant and getting dragged into fire, failing to dodge a monster and getting held/shoved into fire, getting dogged/netted and then covered in fire, tend to be better solved by flamer resist (and bomber resist to a lesser extent).Revive speed is in a very similar boat, where, sure, you could effectively have another toughness curio with three perks adding up to +15%. Alternatively you could expedite reviving your retard to be almost instantaneous and not have to risk your ass to recover your free distraction. If that's a good player, even better.I would put somewhat of a cap on revive speed though, because classes with aoe stuns (zealot chorus, veteran shout) only need some +20-25% to pick someone up before stunned enemies recover. Also veteran can revive with shout, so it's less valuable here, even if revive speed technically does un-net faster, because that shit is so fast anyway. It does also help rescue dead players, but this is more of a havoc 40 zealot being the last one to survive, kind of thing, and likely not relevant if you have to ask./autism
>>565578331Tried out the boltgun and plasma gun. I ran out of ammo with the boltgun cause my teammates kept running off and stealing all the ammo. Kind of soured the experience. The plasma gun was cool but is there a reason to charge it and is the an overcharge mechanic if you hit a high heat %? I just hip fired it the entire time.>hellboreNever again.
>>565595891>I ran out of ammo with the boltgunRookie mistake. Stop magdumping it, build into Deadshot talent and Surgical blessing, use it as a crit sniper, fuel the stamina cost with piss tag's left upgrade. If you run into ammo jew problems, use the knife and swap to it to hoover up ammo I guess, but it's usually expected for boltgun snipers to be a little slower due to stamina constraints.>is there a reason to charge it and is the an overcharge mechanic if you hit a high heat %?Practically, there isn't much reason to charge it, but I don't use it because I hate it and I'm sure there are some weird arbitrary breakpoints.There are some blessings that interact with heat. Also hovering around 100% heat, and tapping special to dump heat exactly once, gives you 2 shots, which should give you the best DPS on paper. In practice, you might still get caught with your pants down, which is where the OPTION to magdump with the boltgun tends to shine.>helboreIt's kind of CBT with bad teammates, but with for example a taunt ogryn hugging you all game, it's genuinely wonderful, and in general just a very strong gun assuming you have ACTUAL team play.
>could have made normal maps>make mortis trials>could have made normal maps>make expeditions
>>565596697swedes have a plan and no-one can stop them from enacting it, no matter how bad
>>565596697>could recycle mortis trials and expeditions assets into normal maps>will instead spend 1-2 years adding to expeditions for the 15 players regularly inhabiting itAs time goes on I find it increasingly difficult to rationalize Fatshark's actions as anything but disdain for their playerbase.
>>565573805>you guys are so mean because you don't talk about other games!>no i won't create any discussion either/coopg/'s smartest whinger
>>565597319what does this schizobabble have to do with you shitting up the OP
I'm thinking the winning strat for nightmare is>kill every enemy you see as soon as you see it so nothing can ever sneak up on you>do every side objective and clear the horseman in every danger zone to get joker maxxed before the main objective since the storm during it is the most dangerous part of the game, even more than the boss fight>use geyser (broken as fuck, surely it is not actually supposed to repeatedly explode for the rest of its duration after you ignite it with fire or electricity)
>>565597319>WHAT DO YOU MEAN I JUST START TALKING ABOUT IT I DEMAND REPRESENTATIONit's all so tiresome
>>565599718why are you replying to yourself
>>565599392Nobody knows what game youre talking about.
>>565600042iykyk
>>565596553>Stop magdumping it, build into Deadshot talent and Surgical blessingI'll give it a try again later. For now I'll keep fucking around with the plasma gun. I still think the recon lasgun felt better than both.
>>565600292friendly reminder: if your post doesn't include a picture it will be assumed to be about darktide and skipped over.
>>565600432Bolter takes getting used to. If you want an easy plug and play, just use the bolt pistol instead, it has none of the downsides.Recon lasgun is one of the best feeling guns on vet, and probably the easiest one to use. Just remember to take Shock Trooper and some crit talents (right side has one for relatively cheap). Deadshot is viable, but only with the brown, slow firing recon las. The green one has nothing going for it. The blue one is the other good one, but can't afford Deadshot.Recon las is kinda sorta worse than las pistol in most ways that matter, but you'll need an autoclicker or mod to auto fire for you if you want it to be tolerable. Las pistol is incredibly powerful btw.
NORF FC SPOTTED IN LOBBYI REPEATNORF FC LAD IN LOBBY
Just found out an autistic nigger retard has "skipped over" my post while somehow replying to it, my day is ruined.
>>565601089You just raped him
>>565600704>but you'll need an autoclicker or mod to auto fire for you if you want it to be tolerableI think Warframe spoiled me with full-auto mode. Now I expect most games to have it as a feature. I'm guessing Fatshark don't care/are too stupid to check for mods?
>>565601089continue to whine about your game not having representation in OP.also consider cutting down on masturbation, because it wasn't a reply to that post.
>>565601510>I'm guessing Fatshark don't care/are too stupidThis is the default assumption you should make, always, because it's true 99% of the time, and the other 1% is possible GW meddling.If you ever bother installing mods, this is the simplest, most lightweight one you'll want https://www.nexusmods.com/warhammer40kdarktide/mods/87There's also Skitarius but that's extremely customizable autism that takes actual time and effort to set up, and the ranged auto function isn't as robust as FullAuto I've found.
>>565600042I know what game he's talking about. Lurk moar newfag.
I somehow doubt fatshart will let us play as these dudes, and afaik they're the only ones using transonic blades.
>>565601539Wht does people talking about games besides Darktide make you so mad lmao
>>565601539??? is this a fucking bot or just an indian, this post was completely nonsensical
>>565602089We'll get a ruststalker branch and dual transonic blades. Trust the plan
has anyone else noticed they just randomly completely changed the power falchion move set today?
>>565573082>Swapped to Leveredge after running Minigun for a bitFeels so damn good to use.
>>565604241You just used a different mark
WOW playing zealot felt like a squishier and worse psyker, what the fuck>no bubble, just a long CD chorus that my team doesn't capitalize on>relic sword is the psyker greatsword but worse>zero toughness regen compared to psyker and TWO(!!) dodges while my psyker has 5>flamer takes 5 years to pull out unlike purgatus staffWhat am I doing wrong??
>>565604883>What am I doing wrong??Nothing. Psykers are just straight up better fighters than zealots
>>565604883>What am I doing wrong??>squishyTalent build, most likely. Zealot has some pretty decent toughness recovery, the most important one being Second Wind near the top.>relic swordPerks and blessings. It wants carapace, flak, Rampage is non-negotiable, Cranial Grounding is the next best DPS gain. It also has a tricky combo, it demands that you get used to it. Also learn to block cancel your current animation and initiate a sprint stab, among other things. Mk X horizontals are more for horde clear, but useless against actually beefy enemies, you want the overheads, stab, push stab, or sprint stab and aim those at heads. Duellist is important even though it's not a traditional finesse weapon.>toughness regenBesides Second Wind, there's also Enemies Within to the left of it. All three keystones modify your toughness in meaningful ways. Otherwise you have access to a lot of toughness damage reduction.>flamerDon't bother with flamer outside of havoc, you need to be able to shoot shit good.If you are married to it, use knives. Throwing a knife during the equip animation skips most of it. You'll likely need knives anyway to even have a chance to kill bombers (and once you git gud, some snipers) in a reasonable time frame.>chorusIs more reactive for when everyone is eating shit, or proactive when pushing into gunner nests, or for stunlocking bosses, or ledging them. But you are right, most pubshitters do not utilize it. FotF is usually your best bet since it gives you more DPS and also some toughness.I still swear by chorus personally, but more for selfish reasons and because the 40% TDR on top of piss toughness is actually crazy strong. On the other hand, if I do play zealot in aurics, it's only with a friend. Otherwise it's only in havoc 40.
>>565605550Also yes >>565605536 is correct, psyker just completely shits on zealot in terms of being useful in melee. It's extremely difficult nowadays to produce competitive numbers on zealot, unless you're constantly in max Martyrdom, and your teammates graciously let you get close to enemies instead of shooting them dead before your sword connects.I do think zealot is a lot tankier overall, but psyker is just infinitely stronger in every way that matters in auric.
>>565601060Didn’t happen>>565601719True>>565602089Aren’t transonic blades basic AdMech armament?
>>565607730>Aren’t transonic blades basic AdMech armament?Doesn't look like it.
>>565604883psyker is by far the best class in the game and tops the scoreboard in every metric most of the time. its not really fair to compare psyker to anything. even a hive scum playing out his mind will do about 2/3 the numbers of an above average psyker, and even then that relies on the hiver being fed by a vet all gamezealot is still super powerful imo. book, bop, flamer, dueling sword/relic blade are all really strong
>>565609778>psyker is by far the best class in the gameThe most damaging across the board, with the best horde clear, but it's not quite that clear cut because the class has clear weaknesses.A melee scum rapes bosses and hordes in a way that psyker can only compare to with scrier's gaze melee, but psyker remains better in the role of shriek flame spam in havoc.In auric, arbitrator has more than enough damage on top of being borderline fucking invulnerable, so if you want to go purely by win rate, you can probably get the most guaranteed wins on arbitrator with how retardedly forgiving the class is.Also yeah zealot is good, all the zealot haters are just salty at having low scoreboard numbers and should just take the scum pill already.
>>565607730>Aren’t transonic blades basic AdMech armament?It's a ruststalker specific weapon.
>>565585230Because it doesn't need opportunist lmao, it kills crushers without any blessings
>>565604883Nothing. That's a fair assessment.
>>565597006>could introduce red weapons with a third blessing or trait>only way to obtain the resource is through expeditions or havoc>now you can continue being greedy swede kikes and not even have to add in any new armors to these modes for another yearthe swedeoid mind cannot comprehend the concept of "incentive'. Winds of magic proved this with the dogshit roguelike mode that gave you literally nothing for doing it and they've seemingly tripled down with darktide with 3 dogshit gamemodes they've abandoned.
>>565613949Do they have furfags in SM2
>>565614064Yes.
>>565574473
>>565613410I don't think they ever been here.
>>565614494not a tabletoplet, what's going on here?
It's me, I'm the guy who shoots at the burster you're about to push.-
>>565620252
I wonder how refusing a banner heal helps his machinations.
>>565621613If he dies the chapter will lose more marines trying to recover his sneed
Is melee psyker viable at havoc or will everyone reject you out for not being a flame turret with legs?
>>565622518its viable but requires skill which most people will asume you don't have
>>565615375worst power in the series award
>>565622923That seems quite suboptimal.
>>565623339If you have a good build that doesn't have any red flags and you apply to H40's with either true survivor or some meme title you can still get in to a lot of lobbies depending on the host. most people who have true 40 have had it for a while now and are more flexible to non meta builds
>>565622518>Is melee psyker viable at havocYes, very>will everyone reject you out for not being a flame turret with legs?Yes, most likelyViable in havoc doesn't mean accepted in the retard bracket. What players view as "meta" shifts DRASTICALLY between the levels. 20s shitters are addicted to drooling sword plasma vets and probably still using frags. 40s just check for upgraded crates and grenade perks.Realistically, you'll most likely get declined for not being a bubble bot. It's the ultimate perceived shitter crutch (they haven't found out about smoke grenades yet) and they cannot even fathom psykers running anything else.
>>565613598>Whoops, mixup
>>565615126Can’t wait for this to release
Good thing every weapon in the game already has an admech themed cosmetic to go with our skitarii
>>565596697>The trench map update was one of the best received updates in a long time despite gangweeder being underwhelming as fuck>Let's follow it up with a new game mode that will die in a week like the previous game mode we releasedEither they outsourced this shit years ago and couldn't cancel it or they really just hate their playerbase and seeing them enjoy the trench map made them uncontrollably seethe so they followed it up with more boring shit as a fuck you.
>>565629519You see, the Skitarii will feature dark red with grey tones and silver accents on it's armor and weapons, while generic Mastery 20 weapon skins have a bright red scheme with white tones and gold accents.
>>565632204My life is ruined
>>565630353I kind of like the theory that expedition and mortis trials were planned by the devs to add extra tags to the game and for people to pad their resumes with having experience with rogue-like and wave defense
I find funny how last time everyone was whining about Steel Legion being replaced by nigger kriegers and GW's answer was paint your nigger krieger's in Steel Legion's colors and maybe kitbash or whatever. Now the latest's shop rotation is nigger krieger sets with a side of Steel Legion helmets.
>>565633091That’s an awful lot of ‘iggers in there
i'm finna be real with u cuhi've been a warhammer-reader-of-stuff-online for like a decade and i either don't know or don't remember who the steel legion areare they the guys who have grenadiers?
>>565633091>nigger krieger'Steal Legion
>>565574473BEYOND YOUR COMPREHENSION
>>565637790
Getting tired of being bombarded with multiple waves of extremis during a carnifex fight where the first wave already killed both my teammates instantly. Plus balancing the gay faggot barrage attack on top of it all
Is it me or have Darktide servers gotten worse lately? I used to play pretty frequently with a friend in the american server and while suboptimal the game still played fine but now it's very bad, sometimes I jump instead of dodging despite me not having dodged even once yet. Of course that's only part of it, having to extra lead my shots against even slow moving targets and rubber banding back to the group of cultists about to brutally beat me into submission isn't a nice experience either.
>>565639834Unbind jump from space
>>565573082
>mission going well>people start dying to sniper and I can't shoot it with my fat boltpistol becaues I'm badAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>565642335It's all your fault
playin by myself call it faptide
i bust the moment she touch my pant leg call that jeanseed
>click the Play button>nothing happens>click the Play button>nothing happens>click the Play button>nothing happens>click the Play button>nothing happens>click the Play button>nothing happensI would like to play the game please.
>>565647137which game?
>>565647842Darktide. First this ever happened.
>>565595891>is the an overcharge mechanic if you hit a high heat %?It explodes like a psyker going over peril
>week-long losing streak in h40I think I belong in the trenches, bros. At least I can still satisfy my main-character syndrome by corpse-dragging 3 retards through h30.
>>565651151It could just be the best and better players already got H40 and stopped playing havoc and the rest of the playerbase is split between farming various game modes and the latest event.
>>565648220There have been complaints about their servers. I haven't had that many problems, but I mostly play with friends. Although we have seen it take longer for pubs to join when there aren't 4 of us present. I wouldn't be surprised if the various gamemodes have fucked matchmaking by splitting too much of the playerbase even if mortis and expeditions are basically dead
What's all this about Arbites' "Hammer of Judgement" talent being bugged?
>>565652170Who knows with fatshark. The uptime mod says it's almost never on so I just use "no escape" instead, movement speed is always useful.
>>565602089We'll probably just play as normal skittles but get to use rust stalker weapons, and maybe we get some rust stalker cosmetics but I wouldn't be so confident.
>>565637605They're the yellow guys with gasmasks that fought on armageddon.
>>565653309The transphobic blades are mentioned in the leak. May or may not be a sword+dagger dual wield.
>>565653678Ye I know those.But it could still just mean we get to play as regular skitarii but get access to weapons from all sorts of things.
>>565653814Sorry, I misread your post. I'm pretty sure you're right but I'd still prefer a full on techpriest. I'm gonna be very upset if they cuck us out of the omnissian axe.
>>565654156Omnissian axes are techpriest and techmarine stuff only. Skitarii don't get them.
20% damage vs 10% strength?
>>565655417They stack additively with themselves and multiplicatively with each other. Pick the one you have the least of.
>get close to a reaper and move around it in circles>thing can't even pivot fast enough to face me>it fires a burst into the wall and kills meok
>>565657191Seems like it was fast enough
>>565657191This must've happened to everyone at least once. You're supposed to suppress it first.
>>565657191What happens on your screen and what happens in the server aren't necessarily synced
If we do get a SoB class eventually I will not be buying it unless there are repentia cosmetics
>>565660303enjoy.
time for some lazy sunday snorevocs..
>>565660303Hope is the first step on the road to disappontment
>>565660303>I will not be buying it unless there are repentia cosmeticsYou will not get the sexy BDSM repentia that you are thinking of. You will get this dog shit here >>565660447And you can get this look for your zealot, just by not equipping armor by using mods/exploits.
Crazy how ogryns were the first class that could dual wield
Every DLC can dual wield>skitariiDual transphobic blades>hive scumShivs>arbitesMaul and shield
>>565660303>boob plate>repentia outfit>new faces (plural) all of them pretty>makeup optionsyour standards are too low, these are mine
>>565666309>>new faces (plural) all of them prettyImpossible standards
>>565666309>new faces (plural) all of them prettyNegative, in the grim darkness of the 42nd millennium, everyone looks like rugged dogs from 10,000 years of selective pressure for warfare.
>>565651151Let me in.
Do not let him in, you know the vampire rules.
>>565665516>transphobic bladesplease stop calling them like that, I can't afford starting another army
>>565670051>he wants more trans-sonic bladesYou dirty bitch.
Please, just one more win, please god, just one, I'm begging you please, please don't wipe my progress again, oh god please.
>>565670775Director: 500 Ragers
>>565670775>matches u with>recon las vet without shock trooper who doesn't know he has a melee>knife zigger running 3 rooms ahead, aggroing an entire horde and going invisible>martyrdom gun psyker
>>565670881You fucking jinxed me>0/10
>>565672081Yes, hello, Devil? Whatever you do please do NOT show up to my video game where I am 1 step away from getting something I covet. Yes. Yes this Sunday. No. I SAID NO!
>>565670881>>565672081How do rager rapetrains even cause people to wipe lol, dealing with 20 ragers is effectively the same as dealing with 4 considering how few melee slots you have around yourself. Is it just malicelets trying to force auric with a complete non-build or something?
>>565672384500 scab ragers is like trying to beat your way through a wall of metal while specialists fuck with you and gunners chip away at you. It's not unbeatable, but you need to be in control and someone needs to shoot that damned bomber and/or sniper because you sure as fuck can't do it at the moment.
>>565672658Maybe I'm biased because I only played builds that invalidate the event. Especially rumbler spam just kind of turns off 80% of enemies leaving only shotgunner spam as an actual threat.
>>565672770Scrier staff psyker needs a pretty delicate balance when forced into melee, and I didn't have Warp Splitting so I got extra fucked when I didn't have enough space to fire off the stick.
>>565672384Sometimes you just get gibbed bro. Plenty of videos putting the director's spawns on showcase. No doubt people have ran toward "progress" only to have an entire gank squad spew around a corner. Ragers also take the cake in melee, Maulers are intimidating but Ragers are a threat. If you have 20 ragers suddenly installing flywheels into your spine there is usually not much you can do other than pray someone can stagger them.
>>565673112>there is usually not much you can doSomewhat depends on your class. You're only kinda fucked if your stamina recovery is utter dogshit and your melee's stamina and block cost are also bad, but that's the perfect storm of garbage and not exactly very common. Most classes can afford to just block and start dodging away from them. Psyker has peril block, psyker and arbitrator have fast stamina recovery so you can just re-block after you get stunned from 0, arbitrator can have a shield which automatically has much better block efficiency, ogryn is too tanky to care, zealot should kind of be the same. Veteran can kinda get fucked but that's why you save your shout.Obviously yeah, you're right that you can sometimes just get fucked, but that sounds more like panicking the wrong way (blocking is usually the best panic move) and having a questionable melee build.Also anything with a parry can just spam that and not give a fuck.
>>565672384It's because they're pretty silent and can surround the team in a matter of seconds. It hasn't killed me yet, but it has killed many of my teams
>>565654156A TP would unequivocally be preferable but I get the mindset behind Skitarii for DT>>565666309Truth
>>565674694>A TP would unequivocally be preferable but I get the mindset behind Skitarii for DTIt would be weird to take orders from Hadron when you're of the exact same rank
>>565675190It's weird that Hadron is giving orders at all in an Inquisition taskforce
Cadia?More like CACAdia
>>565675728Thoughts on the skitarii?
>>565666309>>boob plateIt'll look like shit and it will be basically flat, because this game is made by swedes who have all drank the "muh sexism, muh soggy-knee shite" kool-aid>>repentia outfitYou will not get the sexy borderline naked repentia you are thinking of.You will only get the fuck ugly nu-repentia that are wearing tank tops and shorts>>new faces (plural) all of them prettyYou will get 2 and they will both look horrendeus and worse than the current female fave everyone uses>>makeup optionsYou will only get 1 and it'll mediocre as fuck.There is a snow ball's chance in hell that we ever get a decent looking SoB.
>>565675834Skitarii toilet
>>565670927You forgot>loooger who wastes all his ammo and spends the rest of the match stealing all ammo>he never uses his melee either and dies to pox walkers when he runs out of ammo
>>565672384It's very easy when you don't have an ogryn or arbites in the team
>>565676169*uses chorus*
>>56567620599% pub shitters in aurics don't use it.>havocThey do use it but 90% pubs don't even pic zealots anymore because they are retarded. And then I see even more retarded shit where I see zealots bringing stealth
>>565676984True on all accounts
>>565676984>play game about killing>pick the non-killing abilityYou would be surprised how many people get filtered by this.>play character about having a dog>pick lone wolfIt just keeps happening
Why are zealot players seemingly the only class of players that still think it's 2023
>grind the halberd to relic levels>realize you bought the heroic one on day onedesu it wasn't even that bad, i wish other weapons had as smooth leveling up experience as it did.
>>565677520They aren't, there's still a fuckton of vets that try to force frag grenades, ogryns still thinking FNP is useless dogshit, people unironically using the revolver, etc.You just notice it more on zealot because 2023 meta is borderline useless dogshit on zealot now. The others are just bad, but still well thought-out builds by auricshitter standards.
darktide noob questionWeapon stats at 0% and 100% equal lower and upper bound per weapon type in square brackets, right?Does that not mean that most of the time damage can be a dump stat as in 60% damage 80% everything else?Because on most weapons there does not seem to be that much difference between lower+60% and lower+80% damage.
>>565679662>Does that not mean that most of the time damage can be a dump statDamage can indeed be a dump stat, but it's extremely situational, and unless you know what you're doing, usually the wrong one.You should default to dumping mobility, defenses, stability, or collateral. Mobility is often (not always) the worst stat since you hit max dodges anyway, and the differences in mobility tend to be marginal. Same for defenses on most melee weapons that don't care for stamina efficiency and the like.Very rarely, you can afford to dump damage, or a damage-adjacent stat like penetration on weapons that easily reach retarded amounts of rending anyway. Some weapons can afford to drop cleave if they have the stat, because it often doesn't do all that much.The main reason you don't want to drop damage is breakpoints. Some weapons have very tight margins for being able to, for example, 2-shot a rager to the head. A lot of ranged weapons just barely manage to kill gunners in a single headshot. Shit like that. So, unless you've tested it and are confident that damage is pointless, it's the wrong stat to dump.TL;DR: If you have to ask, never dump damage.
>>565679662No because everything is based off Damage except for DoTs. Flame Staff, Needle Gun (Toxin really), and Flamethrowers all rely more on their DoT than the actual damage of projectile or weapon's stat. Soulblaze excluded because no weapon really does Soulblaze damage, it can only apply Soulblaze as a DoT. If you really want a dump stat that is "safe" go with Mobility. You'll really only lose Sprint Speed.
>>565680753>Soulblaze excluded because no weapon really does Soulblaze damage, it can only apply Soulblaze as a DoT.There's no fire damage either, only fire dot
>>565679662>there does not seem to be that much difference between lower+60% and lower+80% damage.Not false, but mobility for example gives you only 1% sprint speed between 60% and 80% for example. SPRINT speed only, not movespeed. You gain nothing else from it. Some weapons have defense too for dodge distance. The difference between 60% and 80% defense is, dodge distance wise, literally not measurable. It's less than a pixel.
How's the Arbites class, does it deal good damage? Always been a fan of Judge Dredd and the Arbites in general. They're also my favourite origin in Rogue Trader. Is shield and maul or shield and pistol good? How's the dog? Right now I've just been playing vet and spamming krak grenades to nuke stuff.
>>565681563They're excellent in every way imaginable and the dog is great. They only lack weapon variety a little bit. H40 metaslaves will tell you their (perceived and likely wrong) faults with the class because they suck dick and don't understand how it fits into a comp.
>>565681563>How's the Arbites classCompetitive damage with other classes when built right, lots of stagger, and near-godmode levels of toughness generation, plus you get a dog. I'd say it's the strongest class overall up to auric, and very balanced (though I view it to be on the weaker side, if still VERY viable nonetheless) in havoc 40. Only psyker is stronger, but with the caveat that you can't really fuck up without dying. Arbitrator is loaded with crutches so that never happens.>does it deal good damage?Purely damage-centric builds put out pretty silly amounts of melee damage. Just the basic shotgun you start with rapes its way through auric once you get some reload speed and cleave going from the bottom right keystone.>Is shield and maul or shield and pistol good?I consider the melee shield to be top-tier for the class. Middling damage output, but the special flashbang is fucking stupid, and shields can block even crusher overheads, which you shouldn't have to, but sometimes have no choice but to, and it will save your ass. Also lets you turtle against bosses even in havoc 40, assuming you didn't dump defences.Shield pistol is okay. Felt a little weak when I used it, but it does have a clear niche of bringing a shield in the secondary slot so you can use a higher damage melee weapon. Though I view it as more of a crutch for shitters who need to shield TOONK gunners instead of just sliding into them.>How's the dog?Very good, but requires micro managing to really pop off. Voltaic Mandibles + Canine Morale (left above the auras) are the only mandatory skills. Other damage investment is unfortunately underwhelming. Bleed is only noticeably powerful in havoc, and even there it's questionable.If you do go through with it, remember picrel. Soulguilt + TtW are non-negotiable must-picks else your build is bricked. Most of your melee damage is deep in the tree, so get used to using your shotgun a lot early on.
>>565681563Amazingly well rounded and strong, if a little boring due to a lack of meaningful variety.
>>565682003>accidentally screenshot the wrong buildIgnore Rebreather, that skill is completely optional and not exactly optimal. You're often better off taking something else.Something closer to this. The two melee damage nodes on the right are optional but very powerful.
>>565678226>ogryns still thinking FNP is useless dogshitBecause it basically is.Ogryn is already the tankiest class even without FNP and already has an insane amount of DR he gets access to. What ogryn lacks is damage, so people take HH or BLO so they can rumbler spam.
>>565682003>>565682143good posts
>>565682450>>ogryns still thinking FNP is useless dogshit>Because it basically is.It depends on the build and weapon choices. You won't catch me saying that single stubber sniper ogryn is GOOD, but it's viable enough, and hits enough breakpoints that BLO becomes pointless. Shield does so much of its damage through bleed by just cleaving a lot, that HH's damage boost becomes nowhere near as important as some rending and damage amps. It's perfectly viable to save points that would otherwise go into a different keystone and just put 1-2 points in FNP, especially for Pained Outburst undogging you in case you make a singular mistake and your pubshitters leave you to die.I agree that it's the worst keystone, but I've used it, and it feels perfectly fine, and I don't miss HH or BLO on some builds.It also provides stupid amounts of DR without having to invest a single extra point in the middle cluster below the blitzes.
>>565682450A good ogryn already adds 2 classes worth of damage with skullcrusher alone if he knows how to play, due to keeping everything staggered and making an extreme amount of space for everyone else to go balls to the walls all they wantFNP adds significant tankiness on H40, to the point you come out unscathed with 0 hp damage taken on situations that would kill you on a HH buildHH/BLO are obviously far more damage and i'm not saying that doesn't have value, just that you're way understating the value of FNP and that you're way overstating how much ogryn needs that much damage to pull his weight. Depending on comp your teams overall damage goes up with FNP.
>>565681941>>565682003>>565682050Thanks's for the replies. I'll go ahead and pick up the arbitrator dlc then.
>>565682917>due to keeping everything staggeredAnd heavy hitter keeps everything staggered because it gives you 60% impact
>>565684081Ogryn can keep most things staggered without HH, the keystone just makes it easier to knock shit over. You'd be surprised how much the occasional No Pushover block push does in havoc 40.I don't play ogryn in h40 so correct me if I'm wrong, but like half the ogryns I see don't use HH and I don't notice any loss in stagger volume.
>wipe nearly the entire mob of ragers on my own on top of kiting the boss while my team are getting raped by stragglers>the moment I make a mistake and go down the entire run endsDude I haven't played this fucking game in over a year, I'm playing a class I'm not familiar with, and yet I'm finding myself in situations where I need to babysit retards. Trying to level up Hive Scum has been fucking torturous as nearly every run ends in failure the moment I mess up, and that's despite the fact I'm still rusty. Shout outs to this Ogryn who appeared to forget he has a melee weapon for cracking the shits when I suggested he should probably kill the reaper currently lighting his ass up before rezzing someone. Not even Space Marine 2 has players retarded enough to ignore a threat to themselves in favour of getting someone off the ground.
>>565684371>>the moment I make a mistake and go down the entire run endsWelcome back to Darktide. Get used to it.
>>565684081Depending on weapon it doesn't really help that much. I think on the shield the only relevant difference between having that impact is being able to floor crushers, which can arguably be a drawback if people are using finesse weapons
>>565684371You got real close to depleting your stamina. You should take Regained posture, and dodge after you do a riposte (it will count as a successful dodge) periodically to recover your stamina.And obviously don't get greedy and don't do normal attacks until all ragers are killed.Also you can hold block and parry at the same time, to prevent ragers from landing hits inbetween your ripostes. It will quickly drain your stamina, but it's not a problem if you have Regained posture.
>>565684209>I don't notice any loss in stagger volume.Because those ogryns are running HH, not FNP.I run No Push Over too because it synergizes with HH, it lets me keep any and all enemies stunlocked forever just with heavy attacks and pushing every 8 seconds.
>>565685364>half the ogryns I see don't use HH>Because those ogryns are running HH, not FNP.Anon...
note to self: don't play a sniper with 300 ping players.
>>565622518>>565624383>>will everyone reject you out for not being a flame turret with legs?>Yes, most likelyis this an american thing? i feel like this isnt something i come across on EU servers very often. i use infantry lasgun and power falchion and never have trouble getting into havoc 40s
>>565686705>getting into havoc 40s40s very rarely give a shit as long as your build brings the bare minimum.Stuckies trying to climb are completely enslaved to what they think is meta, adhering to it so closely that they never even experience what other builds perform like, with an added, heavy bias of mostly other stuckies joining them, who are also at that level (and not higher) usually for very good reason.It's a self-reinforcing vicious cycle below 30, and I'd argue even below 40, this late into a reset. Anyone who plays regularly and still hasn't climbed up to 40 by now, is likely just bad.
I didn't get downed because I'm bad, I got downed because the game is bad
Rachael edition
>>565687628I didn't get downed, I ran out of ammo because only one in five headshots connected
also, post codes you coward.
>>565686696note to self: aura farm snipers by dodging them with your back turned
>>565689464precisely
>>565675380True but then you could say the same for like 4-5 others too>>565688301What a strange post
>>565689826ausgods?
>>565692042Zola and Morrow make sense since they're direct members of the warband, as does Melk since he runs whole teams of operatives. Hallowette can because she's underhanded but isn't supposed to, and Sefoni can mindfuck anyone into compliance as suggested by her "changing" Morrow's mind and having done it before. Brahms running a mission on the phage tree (the only mission she runs?) sort of makes sense because of her relationship with Grendyl that supercedes Rannick's authority. Masozi is literally just a pilot, she shouldn't be running missions at all. I recall that Kayex refers to Hadron as "of the Inquisition", so she might be directly working for Rannick, but her role isn't otherwise very obvious, she runs everything tech related to the warband and some of the missions she runs involve tech, but not all of them.Kayex also does a couple mission briefings, and he runs one of the iterations of Rolling Steel.
Holy shit bros the class announcement is gonna be epic, it will drop any moment now
Is there any unpatched level skips left in vermintide 2? I'd like to get on a deed glitch threadmill with a newfriend but i think all the competent players left the game and can't get thought legend on pub (or i have to grind bot levels)
When can we expect Poxclick news?
>>565692865Aw yeah I hope its math.
>>565694142Warhammer skulls is later this month
Excitedly awaiting the announcement for an announcement that will be delayed a week an hour before the trailer was supposed to air for another class that somehow won't be the popular choice and content creators will desperately attempt to spin it as fun before it gets nerfed the literal day of release so all their pre-release footage is meaningless and receives several sweeping class changes in the following months until it's completely busted yet still inscrutable to the average casual while Fatshark pivots to another unwanted mode and wonders why player count won't rise back to Arbites levels.
Doomer trannies are back at it
>>565695267meanwhile i'll just be playing havoc 40s as vet. same as always
>>565695558Are you too brain damaged to possess pattern recognition or something? Nothing fatshark does is even remotely good or sustainable in the long term. Everything vaguely positive they've done was clearly a fluke because it always comes with a heaping pile of bullshit. Even arbitrator, the most well-received update in the past couple years, was plagued with having literally non-functional skills for a full month consecutively.
>>565695923Also the ACTUALLY good shit they've done (adding new maps, especially No Man's Land recently) isn't well-received by the community as a whole because these coddled babies are too retarded to drop the difficulty or switch builds after dying the tenth time, and thus end up hating the maps.
>far far west>time to play some more nightmare>it's a lobby of people level 10-20>I'm the last man standing>they back out of the mission before I can even attempt to revive anyone>it's a lobby of level 20-30s>they're using the bandito exploit, thanks sloptuber that made a video about it>it's a lobby of level 50+>a level 13 guy joins>he doesn't get kickedthat's enough far far west for today
>>565695558I always liked hive scum and I got to laugh at Fatshark implode for the nth time. It's win-win and I don't believe they're capable of not falling down that hole again.
>>565695267lmao true
>>565696256My issue with no man's land is that it is so short but also that it is just 1 mission.
>>565696967If the leaks and datamines are correct and really do point toward skitussy or something admech related, I do have hope that it will at least be fun, and possibly well received, but I also have no high hopes for actual balance, and I trust these dumb swiggers will fuck up something major anyway.I still fully envision that if we do get a servo skull, and it does have the capability to fetch ammo, that it will grief the entire team by stealing and feeding all of the ammo to the Pickpocket scum. They do NOT have the foresight to account for this and will NOT patch it in a timely manner and if/when they do it WILL inevitably break and require several janitorial hotfixes that never get fully patched and further accrue tech debt.
>>565657191>beating his ass from behind>die while hes slowly turning around
>>565697764>If the leaks and datamines are correct and really do point toward skitussy or something admech relatedOne part of my hopes those leaks are real since skittle would be cool to play.And one part of me hopes they are fake because I really want to see the ensuing shitstorm that will result from that blunder.
what ifyou wanted to play darktidebut 500 identical men saidAAAAAHHHHHH I'M REALLY ANGRY
Is there actually supposed to be an announcement today or is that a joke
>>565698462Not today, but in this month
guys HUGE LEAK!!! the next class for darktido will be mechanicus related DONT TELL ANYONE THOUGH!!!!
weebs need to die
>>565698462skulls event is in like 3 weeks we won't get anything until then
>>565698236*turns on relic blade* THOU WRATH SHALL ACHIEVE LITTLE, FAGGOT
>>565698950But Hadron said we can't have skibidis!!!>>565699160We will probably get a teaser a week before skulls like we got for the arbites
>>565698950and rat news´ ?
can't wait for two nothingburger "events"
>>565700228Ratarii
This rat asked for news...
>>565698950Woaah so cool!
>>565701049thats a hedgehog>inb4 hedge
>>565701491ロビー どこ??
Do (you) take jittery, slippery customer, regained posture and/or street tough in your scum builds or do you collect +15% damage nodes like a particularly violent magpie?
>>565703253>hive scumlmao people are still talking about that dusty old class? put it on the shelf, it's skitussy time
>>565703417I'd like someone to scum in my skitussy
>>565703417Answer the question.>>565703845You too.
>>565703845
>>565704081>>565702761>>565701491>>565698950These posters owe me carnal pleasures
GOD-EMPEROR, I NEED TO LEVEL MY HEAVY LASPISTOL BUT EVERY TIME I QUICKPLAY HERESY IT PUT ME IN A LIGHTS OUT EVENT MISSION AND WE GET WIPED
>>565705823>lights out>the modifier that makes the game EASIER because it spawns like half the usual amount of enemies>wiping on heresyWhat the fuck are you doing, pissing yourself at the edge of a daemonhost's aggro radius and then flailing around when you aggro it?
>>565705823buy heavy laspistols, upgrade them and then sacrifice them
>>565705823Git gud
>>565705823Don't use quickplay, dummy. Always select your own missions if you're running builds that are negated by conditions. That said, you don't have to actually use the weapon to level it I'm pretty sure, you just need to have it on you, you can go through the level with your melee pick.>>565706112If he's wiping on heresy and running missions to level weapons, then he probably hasn't got the massive stockpile of plasteel most of us have to do that. He's better off saving the plasteel for actual upgrades for now.
I've been checking everyday for the last couple of months and yet Melk's requisitorium has never had anything I wanted. At this point I'm beginning to believe my best bet is buying whatever bullshit he sells and dismantling it for parts.
>>565707750Melk is only useful for getting a higher level "good enough" version of whatever weapon you intend to level, but you obviously don't get to choose.The only "lategame" use of melkbux is to gamble for maxed curios.Melk is an old, practically deprecated system back from the gacha gambling days before we could craft weapons. You might as well pretend he doesn't exist for any other purpose besides gambling curios.
>>565707750You have only lost when you stop gambling
>>565699160do warhammer games go on sale during the event? I don't want to pay the full price for rogue trader
>>565687628Unironically.
>>565689826I could in a minute if anyone's still around.Maybe for the weekly, or a good old fashioned absolute.
>>565707750>I've been checking everyday for the last couple of months and yet Melk's requisitorium has never had anything I wanted.Back in MY day that was basically the whole game!
>>565707750He sometimes sells 381/380 memes. Or is that a UI bug?
>>565715748>Or is that a UI bug?Darktide's UI rounds up. I forget exactly how the game interprets the stats, some have breakpoints, others might scale linearly.Either way, 80s +61 actually means almost-79s-rounding-up +61 so going by purely hyper-autistic metrics, the weapon is imperfect and effectively bricked.
>>565701491>collar thing hiding adam's apples
Did they add new Hadron lines recently? She said to stop Shilly-Shallying in one of the forge maps waiting for the elevator. Never heard that line before.
Most people thing a Perfect Block build is bad and a waste of time. They'd be right, but it's quite fun so whatever.
>>565724678It's just massively impractical having to jump through several hoops to get +25% damage on a Tuesday afternoon for 3 seconds after the rooster crows, compared to just having a near-permanent +20% damage instead.
>>565725191If perfection was easy, no one would pursue it.
>>565705823>lights outLiterally a non-issue once you learn the maps. The real thing to be aware of with lights out is the modifier pumps deamonhost spawns.
>>565727482man, lights out missions in darktide look awesome. in SM2 they just cut your fucking draw distance in half.
>>565728380Yeah in Darktide they cut the fucking enemy spawns in half. Visually, it's purest fucking kino, and especially when you're new, navigating dark maps is fucking hard. When you have a vague idea of what you're doing it's the second easiest modifier after fart clouds, which just spams virtually infinite med stimms.
>>565725191I'm mostly an attack speed guy, I enjoy it when the mace bashes heads faster than usual, reminds me of playing Kruber.
>>565713113there's something wrong with your bolter, brother. here, I fixed it for you.
>>565702462A spiky rat
>oh a reconlas vet, been a while since I last saw one>he's going to deal with all the gunners, no problem
>>565712576it probably will
Just had a Assassination mission, join midway through, get to the train station, boss comes out... and has no Shield like every other boss in Darktidde does. Dies in a couple of seconds.Can someone explain this?
>>565734642Why were you using hacks, anon? And then come here to coyly brag about it?
>>565734642You quickplayed into someone's story mission. You can deselect story missions in the menu, but it doesn't remember the selection by default, so you have to uncheck it every time you launch the game (I think there's a mod that fixes this).The boss was one of the twins. I assume he farted a lot.
>>565734897Yeah I was totally using l33t h4x>>565735218Wait, does it actually disable the boss' shields if the story missions thing is selected? I don't get that.
>>565735359No, the boss is just a special, scripted event that happens when you hit a specific map trigger. Solo twins always spawn without shield, on purpose, and then disappear when they're down to like 20% or so. This happens a couple times in the story line, leading up to the final mission where you are tasked with killing the twins, where they show up in massive fart clouds with their shields enabled.
>>565735518I should've mentioned that this was an Auric missionIf that doesn't matter, how tf do I turn it off?Seriously, this is the first time this has ever happened for me.
>>565735692>I should've mentioned that this was an Auric missionYou can play the entire story on any difficulty, including auric. You can even go back and re-select old story missions.>If that doesn't matter, how tf do I turn it off?Check the bottom of the mission screen, there's a button prompt, I think the default is E.>Seriously, this is the first time this has ever happened for me.It's very rare that quickplay puts you into a story mission nowadays, but it does still happen sometimes. I've quickplayed into the twins mission a small handful of times. It's always amusing seeing shitters still somehow take several knees on regular mode.
>can't be fucked & not patient enough to host>joining other lobbies went terribly todayaaaarrgghh duuuude I just want to launch the game and play on a stimulating difficulty why does this have to be such a pain in the ass I gotta start leaving teams earlier>>565735692on the mission board in the settings theres an option to turn it off
>>565735935>>565735947I just found it, what the actual fuck, I've never had that before. I always wondered why the cutscene plays afterwards after you get out of the post-mission screen for some missions and I just brushed it off as nothing more than just FartShark being FartShark.Cheers lads, much appreciated.
Is the Zarona the highest cit dmg weapon i can bring on the hivescum?
>>565738405Yes. the Zarona is pretty much the highest critting ranged afaikunless I'm mistaken and changes have occurred
>>565734642Same, but mine didn't even step out of the train. We killed him through the door.
I require higher enemy density.
>>565692175>>565713319Goddamn you cunts were up late.
:(
Can this one please fuck off
anyone down to grind for true survivor?I have a 21st and HRituel on 36 - manufactorum ready
>>565746197Yeah. Just press the "Replace Task" button
>>565747661It's annoying that its in the pool at all. Half the number and it would be acceptable.
>>565747921It's chink design. Everything has to be an RNG gacha pull. Can't have good rolls without bad rolls!
>>565744838You just missed me :)
>>565746197What's the matter, can't handle a tiny book?
>really good custom l4d2 campaign>final level is an absolute shitshow and ruins the entire experiencelooking at you, Detour Ahead
>>565757327This is like 90% of good custom campaigns, sadly. Or at least it was when I last played l4d2 ten years ago
Of all the silly hidden mechanics in this game, doors being hardcoded to kill still remains the most funny to me.
>>565754109The "tiny book" has eyes and teeth and tried to lick me!
>>565758847the funniest part of that one to me is that specials can do it to themselves. There's multiple doors where mutants kill themselves as they get their toe caught in the door
>>565731501Look I'm trying, I even have my FOV dialed way down to make shooting distant targets easier, but that means I SUCK at covering myself in melee
I accidentally stumbled into the upper havoc levels and fucking hell it was miserable experience. A hive scum and an arbites had to carry me and the party leader to victory, I was dying left and right to whatever bullshit happened, killed in 2 hits by a crusher knee to the face followed by a light swing despite me supposedly having an extra wound, grabbed by a Nurgle Beast with 90% health and I'm already dead before the vore animation even begins. 100% health after using a med station so then I'm one shot by a random scab as soon as I manage to break it's shield. The explosion of a burster gets me because I pushed it and it fell over at a weird angle. Rubber banded my slide into a wall giving a sniper perfect opportunity to blow my shit smoove off. Yet I know I'm the issue as those two seemed to have everything in control, perfectly dodging through everything, pushing all that needed to be pushed at exactly the right moment and killing stuff much faster than I do with a greatsword. Of course from my perspective me and them were doing the same things, but their moves resulted in masterful gameplay and mine in me getting lynched on the floor. I'd like to be as good as them one day but it feels ike we're worlds apart.
>>565769186Yeah, but the aliens are dead. You're welcome.
>>565770023>A hive scum and an arbites had to carry meThat was me and my bf. Stay the fuck out of our havocs.
>>565770023Psyker? Your build and playstyle probably sucks for toughness regen since a lot of the nodes for it depend on hitting and/or killing things constantly and building/quelling peril. Also take peril on block, you can't really rely on dodges to avoid damange as a psyker, not for long anyway, blocking and pushing is critical gameplay and will save your life.
>>565770628Guess you're right, the game up to maelstrom is awful at ingraining you with a guard and push mentality, I can hardly remember a time before today where I wasn't better off simply killing the bastard trying to hit me, which is odd because I remember blocking being a lot more important back in Vermintide 2, even on easier difficulties like Champion and Legend.
>>565771669It's the toughness system. Toughness lets you tank hits you would otherwise try to block in Vermintide and it teaches everyone a bad habit of not protecting yourself, but once you get to the levels that matter in Havoc, toughness stops being as useful. there's no grace period between damage ticks so you will get melted instantly if you try to tank with toughness, especially against gunners, so you unironically want damage resistance, stamina, block efficiency and any nodes that improve blocking.
Haven't 'tided in like a year. How is the new expedition mode?
>>565775302It ain't called Deadside for nothing.
>>565775302terrible
>>565775302I took a break before it came out, played like 2 matches, and haven't played the game since.
>Join randoms as Bulwark>Unprestiged Sniper>Getting swarmed by basic grunt push>Dive in to help>Start getting blasted by 4 devourers behind the pack>no biggie the sniper has thi->GREY INSTIGATOR CARBINE>Doesn't kill anything and I go down near instantly in a cataclysmic volley of aidsI'm impressed he handcrafted the worst possible loadout to make himself an incapable damsel in distress in every situation and fail the single purpose of sniper. Yeah I could have avoided my death but like what the actual fuck are you doing.
>Gunlugger Ogryn>literally will not put away his stubber>getting comboed by a Spawn, still just holding m1>"Yeah my build is just like, full on glass cannon. I might not live long but I just go CRAZY and max DPS">had about 100k damage dealt by the end because he spent about 3/4 of the game deadStill the most bizarre person I've ever had to deal with in this game. It was so bad it almost sounds like a fucking made up story just to shit on LOOGERsAt least it wasn't Havoc or else I would've been asshurt instead of just flabbergasted
>>565777732>>getting comboed by a Spawn, still just holding m1This is actually the correct play because you get toughness for every shot in PBB and can thus facetank most things, never mind the brace toughness you get. How the fuck did he manage to die while having infinite toughness?
Anyone plays syntehtik 2? Quite fun in group
>>565776364>>GREY INSTIGATOR CARBINEare there people who don't set all weapons to basic skins?do you also walk like a clown in full chapter master armour so that others see you are a serious gamer?
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>>565777992>How the fuck did he manage to die while having infinite toughness?The retard was playing looger of all things. That already tells he is a retard shitter who doesn't understand the game or how to play it.
>>565781320Half-decent bait
>h40, piss easy map>AIDS + moebians, piss easy modifiers>original 4 lineup with bubble + smoke>everyone somehow constantly eating shit>2 squishy classes somehow nearly competing for highest damage taken with a fucking health build>have the highest elite damage as the chorus buff bitch>also highest boss damage, don't even have unyielding on my melee>psyker autistically refused to use a medicae I made space for and used chorus on>also somehow fell over right next to me while I was playing bodyguardHow the fuck does this happen? lmaoStill actually a pretty chill run, everyone was really good about positioning, but some really bizarre shit happened with those scoreboard numbers.
>>565777732i mean you are, ogryn has so many damage resist talents, on top of a lot of toughness regen, on top of chaos spawn being the weakest boss, you can literally just face tank it like an ubered heavy
>>565777992>>565782252Maybe, but given the damage he took and his "glass cannon" LARP I'm going to assume that he didn't take any of the face-tanking talents. At the very least I don't remember the Spawn downing him before he lost aggro, so there's that.>>565781646Nah he's right; anyone with half a brain only runs the Rumbler with gunlugger (and anyone with a whole brain doesn't play gunlugger to begin with)
>>565783487>I'm going to assume that he didn't take any of the face-tanking talents.You need exactly zero talent investment to facetank a chaos spawn. Literally just PBB and hold down the trigger. You generate too much toughness for it to even damage you.Unless he was using a single stubber like a fucking retard.>anyone with half a brain only runs the Rumbler with gunlugger (and anyone with a whole brain doesn't play gunlugger to begin with)PBB rumbler is one of ogryn's strongest builds. The ammo buff is actually insane.PBB GG is also good. PBB stubber is perfectly viable in auric, and I've seen reports of it working in havoc although I remain skeptical.Just because the average retard can't make it work doesn't mean it's bad. Retards make veteran look literally useless on the regular.Just because (You) can't make it work doesn't mean it's bad either.I'm sure I'll get much autistic skubbing over this because you faggots can't play ogryn.
>>565778149Its quite fun, I feel like it's still missing a good portion of weapons though. Even without tokens it feels like you're getting the same 3 weapons every single run.
>>565783715look dude idk, maybe it was on cooldown I wasn't spectating him okhe was probably getting hit by pozzwalkers also
>>565783715>>565783926>PBB GG is also goodOh yeah, QRD? I've always been a GG shill for sniping gunners/specs, but what does PBB really do for it?
>>565784007>what does PBB really do for it?Brittleness blessing + burn (+ burn talent for extra stacks) adding surprising amounts of DPS against big targets, the obvious instant reload (but you should also learn to sprint cancel), and mitigating the GG's horrendous ammo economy.Also obviously just more throughput in general.
>>565783743yeah am tired of getting some shitty weapons like the flame cannon. For me the worst is getting a leegion hunter machine slayer. Also barely any ambrosia in sight
Luv me double stubber. Just gonna keep shootin' and take all the ammo!
>>565792835DECLINED
>>565596697>could have added rats>did not added rats
>>565596697I like Mortis for when I just wanna brainless meatgrinder mode. Shame it doesn't go endless.
oh man this content they just added is amazing
So is there a way to skip the grind in Space Marine 2? I maxed three of the classes and every time I think about doing another I'm reminded of how miserable it is to play with gray weapons and no perks. Is there a no brainer EZ grind map or save file shenanigans I can pull off?
>>565796047Nope. Your best bet is running Decapitation over and over again since you can actually get through it without a terminus spawn and the geneseed locations are easy to remember. They said they wanted to overhaul the progression system at some point but who knows when the fuck that will be.
>>565597006One needs to only look at the playtester system to understand the issue. They're a bunch of sycophant yes men. They understand the issues, don't get me wrong. They're not retarded, they understand the game. But before Mortis Trials came out you had playtesters like EpicCoal tell everyone about how amazing it is, how it's the most fun addition to Darktide ever. Mode was dogshit, shallow, fun for one or two games tops, dead immediately. Then with Expeditions the same thing repeated. Playtesters were going on about how something big and epic is coming.This is probably the internal feedback Fatshark values. They know their playtesters know the game, so they rely on this feedback. The dynamic they fail to consider is that playtesting is literally sycophantic. You can't get into the system unless you lick someones ass to get in there. You have to suck up to other playtesters, CMs, devs to actually enter this circle. There's no actual method for getting in, just >have a lot of hours>suck up to someoneAnd that shapes the feedback they get. There was one playtester who made the mistake of slightly criticizing Fatshark (troonopots) and slightly ribbing them about how they should add mission select, a sentiment that would highly improve the game and make it more fun for everyone. The result? He was removed from the playtester circle. He's already back to sucking up to them though.This is also why they won't do things like aquila rewards. I know someone in the playtester circles and he told me that it's common for Fatshark to put the idea out, and playtesters would shoot it down out of loyalty, and arguing that "players don't need it to enjoy the game, it's better if they enjoy the game for the game itself" which is just an empty platitude. No need to believe me on this one, I have no way to verify or prove this, just sharing what I heard from a first hand account.
>>565783743>then got legion hunter dusk as HG
>>565796047heroic weapons, the ones you can buy for running strategems from the techpriest in the armory, have endgame stats so you can run any threat level. They give you weapon xp too.You probably already noticed the recommended minimal level is just a suggestion. The only DPS check in the game is six extremis spawning with the terminus enemies on absolute. If you have a fencing weapon you can just tag along experienced players on lethal and parry your way to the end of the mission while they are dealing damage, just remember to clear mortal wounds with medkits or other players will get frustrated with you and disconnect.
>>565797670I was able to shyster my way into the heroic weapons but not every weapon seems to have access to one so I guess I can't progress that weapon line without starting from the browns but for the available heroics I can just use those to progress the XP of that tree? Seems a lot more manageable.
>>565797427>This is also why they won't do things like aquila rewards. I know someone in the playtester circles and he told me that it's common for Fatshark to put the idea out, and playtesters would shoot it down out of loyalty, and arguing that "players don't need it to enjoy the game, it's better if they enjoy the game for the game itself"I would like aquila rewards. Aquila rewards would probably help keep the dead modes alive if they're included there.I also acknowledge that this could enormously backfire. If havoc had aquila rewards, the amount of assblasted hardstuckies would increase hundredfold, as would the amount of useless retards that get carried and massively dilute the havoc pool.You forget how INCREDIBLY FUCKING RETARDED (and entitled) darktide players are.
>>565798006> If havoc had aquila rewards, the amount of assblasted hardstuckies would increase hundredfold, as would the amount of useless retards that get carried and massively dilute the havoc pool.Honestly it's already pretty unplayable without filtering with the inspect mod, so I don't really think it'd get worse in practice. If nothing else they could just add aquilas to melk, and then add some more objectives to Melk so you can pick what mode you wanna play. Balance it so it's fastest to get in Mortis Trials so it gets some activity so the few people who like it can actually play with someone. The other day I did a Mortis randomly for the first time in months and there was only one other guy in there. He said he usually ends up finishing it alone and it's all he plays. Poor guy needs some playmates
>>565796675Has decap become more optimized than Inferno? Last I remember it we spammed inferno because it was basically free until the mid-mission point where you have to defend locations by wiping out xenos
>>565797904>but for the available heroics I can just use those to progress the XP of that tree?yes, exactly. you just need green, purple and gold armory data to unlock further parts of the xp bar and buy perks (and i guess requisition to buy the weapons first) but you don't need to use low tier weapons that way.
>>565798252the main issue i think is you can get a second terminus spawn in abso lute if the mission doesn't end in a boss fight.
>>565798006yeah the asian servers already force newbies onto meta builds to slot into their havoc 40s where they carry someone to 40 just so they can get the dockets, plasteel, and diamantine. This results in meta crutching fools that believe they are the top 5% of the playerbase and also that if fatshark nerfs the plasma gun the world will explode. Could you imagine how dogshit things would be if you also got Aquillas from the havoc cache?
Finally got the private game penance done for the psyker. Party finder came in clutch. Some scum showed up saying this was the first time he saw a non-havoc opening. Gotta get zealot done next.
>>565797427>This is also why they won't do things like aquila rewards.Aquila rewards would be a terrible fucking idea no matter the implementation, it would just result in third worlders flooding every single game mode at all hours of the day to farm for them. The game would be rendered un-fucking-playable outside of pre-arranged lobbies.
>>565799168see >>565798236I don't see how adding them to melk would affect anything negatively to be honest
>>565799147>Gotta get zealot done next.Alright let's do it right now, post a code.
>>565799332Even if it was just one small reward you could do once per day, you'd still be dealing with tens of thousands of thirdies at least farming the game for them. I'm already lumped into the asia-pacific server with SEAschizos and chinks and it's a miserable experience whenever they show up, I don't want it to be worse.
>>565799475I'm at work :(
>>565799168this is a pretty nonsensical thing to say, people who aren't playing the game now aren't going to buy it to start playing because they can now get the slop for free after hundreds of hours of grinding.
>>565799597But melk isn't once per day, it's once per week for a couple games. You can do it on any difficulty and if you roll them it takes like two games. I don't think this would affect anything negatively
>>565799769We're talking about people who don't possess reason. Trust me, it'll be HD2's warbond situation all over again because they want the flashy cosmetics like niggers paying thousands of dollars for shoes. If the other modes need to have a draw to make them not dead, free Aquilas is not the way to do it, add real progression to them. Make tech remants a currency for upgrading weapons further, throw something similar in for mortis trials, rework the main mission console to include a unified quickplay button for all modes except havoc.
>>565800220>upgrading weapons furtherShit idea.>permanent upgradesEven more powercreep. Exactly what Darktide needs.>upgrades only exist inside this particular mode (expedition/mortis), or even only for a run (like Chaos Wastes)Adding upgrades to current weapons will create ultra-powerful weapons, and eventually players will start to complain they want these weapons in every mode. See permanent upgrades.>same as above except the players start with shit weapon, so it won't end up too powerful, i.e. literally just copy Chaos WastesToo much work for swiggers who would go on vacation even if they had to go on their own funeral.
>>565801318>Shit idea.There is an unused 20% left on weapons, and breakpoints are already minor. If balance is an issue, just rebalnce Auric, Maelstroms and Havoc to be a little harder.
>>565801564>trusting them with rebalancing the whole gameBe honest, you just bought the game and just mad you can't get more cosmetics for free. Otherwise I have no damn idea why would you want them to make a game unplayable for a whole year at the very least.
>>565801564>Just powercreep EVEN FURTHERBro...
>>565801794>you just bought the game and just mad you can't get more cosmetics for freeI am literally arguing against free aquilas you retarded ESL fuck
>>565801862Reading is not my strongest side but my second point still stands.
>>565801823Yes, start introducing traitor marines and actual daemons.>NOOOOOO BUT I WANT THE GAME TO STAY THE WAY IT ISRetarded, this is why the game's dying and new game modes don't draw players back for more than a couple of days.
>>565794581And that’s a good thing
>>565800220>it'll be HD2's warbond situationHD2 was always more popular with third worlders than real humans.
>>565802052We can get more appropriate enemies than that at least
>>565802453What do you mea- Oh you mean a jean stealer cult.
>>565802453No, keep the marines. I want marinefags to seethe that their boys are getting rekt by a homeless man with a knife and a schizo.
>>565760036Press it against your ass
>410 curio>16% toughnessHaha
>>565803479Are there 18% toughness curios?
>Just remembered Assault has up to 40% ranged damage buff>He's getting the Bolt Carbine which already shreds at close rangeShiet he's gonna melt niggas.
>>565803561Doesn't go higher than 17%
Why does the game have such weird number caps anyways? Why only 410+ for max curios? Why do weapon stats max out at 80%? Why not 100% (with 80% being the dump stat instead of 60%)?
>he doesnt have a 61% weapon rollohnononono
>found 21% health curio in the shopda fug
>>565803886We assume they were going to add higher levels eventually, but it just hasn't materialized at all, probably because Darktide is being run by an ignorant skeleton crew working with ancient code they can only understand by interpreting ages old and fragmented documentation.
>>565804297Enjoy your 79.6% damage
>>565804337Says 80% on my screen buddy, I think you're just jealous that I got a god-roll and you didnt
>>565804446Ok bro, enjoy your """80%"""
Why are there so few havoc lobbies on a Monday morning? I thought only lazy neets played this game.
I will run piss vision on vet and I will NOT share it with the team. I need to kill those targets, not you.
>>565805509Good. So long as you actually are killing them.
>>565805509Is this controversial or something? Isn't the whole point of the ability letting you quickly deal with high priority targets while your team takes care of the small fry?
>>565575759i think its client
>>565805578>He accepted?>Shoot only the poxwalkers he's trying to melee
>>565805370because all the other lobbies are diluted by gamerdads that will say "i can swap to pysker" when they join and will die to 2 poxwalkers
>>565803886Holdover from original design elements. The max stat distribution of 380 potential points was meant to keep the player chasing the next drop. Hell it was just bars on release, they wanted you to use what felt good rather than get bogged down by numbers. One of the original design team really loved random weapon drop systems, crafting wasn't even supposed to be there but was begrudgingly added. There was never meant to be a perfect weapon, you were supposed to just cycle through as you gambled through slightly better drops over time(a good autogun over a bad bolter).
>>565806167That's incredibly retarded.
>Strawhat(?) called Darktide a "looter shooter" back durong some previous update/hotfix>Everyone is confused at why she would say thatI think the higher ups made her say that because I don't think it was ever referred to as such before, nor does it fit. But what was REALLY going on?
>>565806167With that kind of thinking they should have just made a roguelite lol.
>>565807225People call DRG and Helldivers extraction shooters. People a retarded.
>>565806167Bad bolter is still better than good b/v autogun.
>>565807413Part of the gameplay of Helldivers is that the resource collection in regards to samples is completely separate from mission completion. If you want to upgrade your ship as a new player, you need to extract with the goods. While not wholly every facet of extraction shooters, it is certainly a good chunk of it.
>>565797427>This is also why they won't do things like aquila rewards. I know someone in the playtester circles and he told me that it's common for Fatshark to put the idea out, and playtesters would shoot it down out of loyalty, and arguing that "players don't need it to enjoy the game, it's better if they enjoy the game for the game itself" which is just an empty platitude. No need to believe me on this one, I have no way to verify or prove this, just sharing what I heard from a first hand account.We know this is real and has happened because we had an anon come here leaking the Grim Protocols update.He said all we'll be getting are the great swords and heavy stubbers + havoc.Anon also then to specify that the zealot power sword would have a new blessing that gives you attack speed on perfect block, but keeping the blessing going wasn't easy due to the shitty numbers.He also said that the developers had thought about making Aquilas as a reward for beating Havoc. It was only shot down because of playtesters.And lo and behold Grim Protocols comes around, just look at what blessing the Relic Blades turned out to have.Playtesters being sycophantic retards who hate the plebian masses just suck Fatshark cock and it is an active detriment to the whole game.
>>565804316The entire company consists solely of a skeleton crew at this point pretty sure hence why everything is just in stasis
>>565807797>you need to extract with the goodsBy that metric most of co-op session games with permanent progression are extraction shooters. Darktide is a good chunk of extraction shooter because you need to extract diamantine. DRG is a good chunk of extraction shooter because you need to extract croppa and jadiz and starch nuts and whatsoever. Monster Hunter is a good chunk of extraction shooter because you need to extract monster parts.
>>565807352the early concept darktide was actually closer to that. From the very early info; no ogryn, only human. what weapons you equipped determined what class you were, what skill ability was given, and what talents you had available (one of the reasons why each weapon type ended up with its own pool of even identical blessings).
>>565805860>alpha legionchecks out
The better I get at Darktide, the less I want to play it. Today I got downed by a Mauler overhead from over 2 full body lengths away, I've been grabbed by Mutants/jumped by Poxhounds that I've already killed, just to be let go a whole second later when the servers acknowledge that they monster's dead. Bursters? Shoved and still exploded on me a whole room away.I can't imaging playing high level Havocs and die to the game just telling you no. It's not even a skill issue anymore when the issue is on the server side.
>>565806167I think the weapon system at launch sucked dick purely because Darktide was rushed as fuck, so the retards at the studio quickly cooked up the retarded RNG weapon system as a quick fix because they literally hadn't even created the weapon system properly yet.Like we know from some articles that came around OCTOBER 2023 with the 1st skilltree rework. The articles had snippets from developers saying how they had been working on these new skilltrees for OVER A YEAR.Meaning the original 1st skilltrees, were already being built and planned BEFORE the Darktide even launched. Since Darktide launched in NOVEMBER 2022To me when I started playing around December 2022, to me everything in game just screamed "temporary solution", which it most likely was. We didn't even have weapon crafting at launch at first.It also explains the reason why the Crafting Update took 2 years to be added, it's most likely because Darktide was released WAY too early, it needed at least 3 more years in the oven.But since the game had been launched it then meant Fatshark had to split developement for the game. And they split it between suppporting a live game, fixing bugs, etc. and had to basically be patchin a sinking boat 24/7, while then also at the same, other half of the team had to try play catch up and add in new content at the same time.Logically both of these aspects will just suffer entirely because the team can't focus on 1 thing at a time.
>>565809252works on my machine
>>565809252That's not a serverside issue, it's on your end.
>>565797427>>565807949https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/504198794/#504302493The very leak I'm talking about.Note that this was posted before Grim Protocols update released on December 3rd.
>>565809342I saw a very convincing theory that weapon movesets were originally meant to be customizable, as were ranged weapons in some aspectsEvidence>melee weapons on launch showed their moveset on the weapon card, no reason to have this other than customization>all the launch melee weapons are built in a modular way where each light combo is 3 different hits, each heavy combo is 2 different hits, no exceptions, some are re-used between marks>this suggests that melee weapon moves were customizable and marks were added as a way to just salvage the concept>ranged weapons have nonsense design aspects like lasguns taking 2 ammo per shot>earlier interview in a pc gamer (I think?) article reveals they planned to let you "tune your lasgun for the ultimate killshot experience, making it consume more ammo per shot">weapon models are modular in ways that would allow customization, which gave way to the wep customization mod >early trailers show the same guns with and without scopesEverything, to me, points towards the idea that there was meant to be weapon customization, but it got scrapped before release, and they salvaged the concept by giving each weapon a couple marks, utilizing the leftover moves and concepts. A lot of Darktides issues seem to be explainable as >they delayed the game once already but it still was unfinished as fuck>they got the mandate to just wrap it up and ship it in the best state they can to recoup costs
