Visual Novel General #7577This general is for the discussion of English-translated Japanese visual novels.All posting of untranslated visual novels belongs on >>>/jp/E-celeb shitposting is not allowed.Kindly use spoiler tags appropriately when discussing plot spoilers to facilitate smooth discussion.>Having trouble with your VN? Try the following before you ask for tech support:1. Be in Japanese locale2. Read the Readme3. Check https://rentry.org/4chan-vn-help4. Copy error messages with CTRL+C and paste them with CTRL+V into DeepL5. Google it>FAQs, Recommendations, and Other Useful Things:https://chartanon.github.io/moechart/https://files.catbox.moe/j3dd0n.pnghttps://github.com/marisukukise/japReader>Need a novel with a specific element?https://vndb.org/g>Download Links:https://rentry.org/4chan-vn-linksPrevious thread: >>565642352
>>565680264SEX
*sniff*
cute chuuni
Sorry bud, but your sacrifice ensured peace in the world....
Hmm I didn't expect this to turn into a reverse harem gemu, but I guess that I am in the middle of a female fantasy so it makes sense
all women are THOTS
>thread still comfywhich schizo was banned yesterday?
>>565681763you just haven't met the right heroine
>>565681763VNs are thot provoking.
imouto
>>565681763That's why traps are superior.
oppaisuminasai
Hair over eyes done this well is so rare
Showering with your bros can enhance your friendship
not sure how to feel about it. If I had to describe this entire scene it'd be 'soulless'.its like the game wants you to speedread and click through it
>>565682373those are just thottified boys. they are no better.
Thinking about lolis
>>565682805>not clicking a choice leads to another option...Kinda nice, but also annoying since theres no indicator if another choice might be like this
>>565682805looks like a kusoge
>>565682805Typical fumige
>>565682612this image is disgusting...
oh and yeah jumpscares with 0 atmosphere, like, if this game is trying to be spooky or a horror it just isnt, so why bother? it radiates soullessness>shineba yokatta no nitranslator-kun...
how many times can you bloat the script with 'urban legend' competition
>>565683045don't talk about my bro like that, faggot
>>565683228>anotherlol
>>565683318>this time the translator skips it sparing us in the latest lineholy fuck I was half-kidding at first
>>565681894Kimika blessed the thread
Confess.
What is this art style called and how do I find more of it
>>565683884I was too mean to anon last thread
>ippan peopledo nips really or is this guy forcing it
>Girl's favorite VN, bar none, is MojikaHow much of a red flag is this?
is this translator fucking retarded? look at this shit lmao Mind you she doesnt even list the numbers there she just says 'ii niku' - so why did he put it there? at least spell it out in jp you ape
>>565683884There's an image of a slightly chubby Meruru with huge tits being groped and teased over them and I like it lot.
>>565684601if you pull out your cock and she won't suck it right then and there she aint a true fan>>565684728post it NOW
>>565684769Beware, spoiler character https://danbooru.donmai.us/posts/11191051?q=tsukishiro_yuki
>>565684998What's spoilery about a posh lady and her funny hand signs? It's not like Atri would look any deeper than that.
>>565684998yeah, its really nice. thanks
>>565685153*throws a bucket on her head*
>>565685153It feels like I'm being spoiled when I look at this
>game offers a bunch of choices that alter dialogue slightlyThe biggest issue is that while in BA the choices worked to make you feel like you're part of the story, here they just... don't. This whole approach's a failure.(You) don't really feel like a character the way Sensei does, maybe that's why it's ineffective.
why is proseka in vndb but BA isn'tsuch bullshit
at least these parts are somewhat funny
>>565685914Go complain to Yorhel.
>>565685697Not really? By the time you know who this character is the game just tells you. The design itself really doesn't tell you anything.
Did the fan TL do anything like this with the background voiced lines with no text?
>>565685153...Why DOES she do that with her hands?
>>565686387obviously no
>>565686501very feminine hand gesturetry it and you'll get AGP
>>565686116not cool aisir
That's me
writer's admission?Anyway wonder why this is their only game that looks so good if the staff listed is the same as always
>>565685153>>565686501>>565686639ACKSHUALLY that's one of the variations of the Sign of the Cross
>>565686501that means micro-chinko
>>565687254>Japanese Christian Albino WitchNow I've seen everything.
One weird trick to boost H-scene quality.
>>565687660I don't have AGP
this feels like gacha writing and like it would be better for a gacha
>>565687842as a gacha*
embarrassing, writer-chama
I have a feeling that it would just make the Holy Nomiki War worse....
>>565687813You also don't have a brain it seems, zoom-zoom.
>>565687842Infodump-chan
>>565688162if she at least infodumped anything more relevant than 'I heard about X incident' (no details) spread out across 30 lines of filler it'd be nice
>>565688240Yeah, going to her is dreadful
>>565687842Is that Scaramouche?
We love infodumps here.
>>565688618if this was true, then someone would blogpost that ge
>>565680264Ohhh!!! Amazing thread!!!
sherry
>>565689085teehee
>>565686890
>>565689108The greatest of the Tachibanas...
>many have been saying this>we will be reading this>geeeg it do be like that>hfk: holy fuarking kino>untraslatable dialog (such as shubabababababa)>ge that (SOME BANAL SHIT)???
>>565687254Looks like a JJK hand sign lmao.
>>565689108>>565689248GOOOOG
manosabatrannies sure are mentally ill spammers
Yasu....
This thread is very special to me. Please stop shitposting in it.
>>565689468GEEEEEEEEG
>>565689494basedjak lol
>>565689494GEEEEEEEEEEEG
>>565689259This sprite in Muv-Luv is a Brazilian gang sign or something, I can't remember exactly. Only picture I could find at the moment, from some Youtube video.
>>565689494Yamero!
Friends are a wonderful thing to have. I'm sorry for stealing your girl in a different route, Tenzen
game breaks at this part for some reasoni remember another anon played this recently, howd you get past it
>all ages
>>565689978I haven't played it, but have you tried CTRLing past it?
>>565689978I left it be and it fixed itself after 20 or so seconds
Nice thread, /vn/kekspretend i posted a redman pic
>>565689985pure gyaru
>>565690103yeah it fixed itself after a couple secondsit had to end a troon first
KIMIKAAAAAA!!!
GODnager*
Why do schizos latch onto random games they haven't read and shitpost about them endlessly?
>donkan heroineUwaaaaaaaaahhhhh
>American hours
If only redman was here...
Hoegaarden and Allagash White are much better.
>>565691056rapechad???
sπ soon
Π
Nice legs.
>>565689985At least the art is very easy to toss into nai with how much of the character/details it shows per screenshot
lmaoback to our regular postinganyone like erika furudo?
working on the one who deserves to be unleashed
Finally...! The aunt route has started. Thank you so much KEY mugyuuuu
what a foolthere is no such thing
umiNEGRO lost
>>565692139Still mad about not being able to date Misae in Clannad.
>>565689494>when she keeps sucking after you cummed
chubby booty (っ`ཀ`)
Useless.
>>565692287wouldn't mind a whole rewrite of her route tbqh
>>565692431That's an ass that's begging to be eaten.
>>565691862These two witches don't
You will never be a witch
>>565692870trvke
>>565692563The scenario about her past was fine, but the route needed to continue afterwards so that you could date her. She's a side character though and her route is primarily there for world-building so it makes sense they didn't give her a full story, but it's still annoying.
I want to FUCK a witch
>>565692870I want to be with a witch
>>565692975I wanna cuddle with a witch
I want anal sex with a witch. I mean bishop.
I'm gonna take a break from this place for a few months.
>>565692287>>565692963they did same thing twice in anemoi lmao
quintessential witch VNs>umineko>manosaba>sakigakewhat else?
>>565693217See you in 90 seconds
>>565693149That's your 'mouto
>>565693279Sanoba Witch
>>565693279fat morgan shigatsu youkamajotachi no nemuri
>>565693217please never come back>>565693279Mahoutsukai no Yoru
Your top 3 shirokami?
>>565693226Everything I've heard about this game seems bad, like the writers don't really "get" Key games. Then again I haven't read Summer Pockets so it's possible they're just a different company now.
well it looks like it's time to update umisis collage
H i l a r i o u s
post themhttps://lemmejack.github.io/MFOppai-Sorter/
>>565693595Doing God's work
>heroine is bad with computersThis isn't cute at all.
VNs for this?
>>565694110Disgusting
>>565694110there should be an image export button
>>565691056Gonna wait 2-3 weeks to play this b/c it looks like Laplacian's still patching out game breaking bugs and soft locks.
Honestly I don't know what Rimi even enjoyed about most of their time together. Half the "fun" they had was Takumi ignoring her at school then going home to ignore her at his computer. The dynamic was too one-sided for me to see it as anything other than pity.
My vndb
>>565692594Yuck
>all of the hspy heroines are 母乳ありWhat's the point of even putting that on the character sheets if it's true for everyone?
>>565695132>母乳ありSpeak English JOPmong
>>565695000They had a few moments between them, some being dependent on which delusion you selected (since some of them aren't delusions). Though her interactions with him are basically her only experience of normal life, so I imagine that contributes to it.
>>565695102should have just linked your account if you were going to provide enough info to find it anyways. Looks like ratings that most would find acceptable here, excluding Chaos;Head being above anything there
>565651918while just a side character, the seiyuu saying "mahoutsuhai" is just so great hereunfortunately she has retired
KINOmasa
>[Deleted]
>>565695809IDBLT
>>565695758Why does this brown girl have two ahoge? Is she a double idiot?
>>565694468>purple aokana girl saying that she's bad at computer.jpg
>>565695102get out typeshitter
>>565696113It's mean to replicate cat ears according to the artist
>>565695102whats up my nyggr
this could be a single line.
>>565695102i doubt this is your account anyway, this guy hasnt read anything in 5 years
>>565696113unironically she is one of the smartest characters she actively calculates flight trajectories, energy outputs, and strike vectors in real-time during high-speed, 3D aerial dogfights
>>565695656Once again, backgrounds are strinkingly similar to those in lupercalia; only the "mystical library" and the other rooms in the mansion in kamimaho and the stage and rehearsal room in lupercalia seem to be specifically created after the plot.The character sprites OTOH must be custom, though they're not universally appreciated. I think the voice acting in lupercalia is peak, but while VA direction and sound engineering isn't quite up to lupercalia levels, the characters in kamimaho even surpass lupercalia's.
how would you localize this?
>>565695889
>>565695889My favorite
>>565696921>yellow textWhat release of the game is this?
>>565696645Most of us oldfags don't read much these days. It's just newfags obsessed with reading VNs.
>>565696684Oh, so a double ahoge creates a genius. Naruhodo...
>>565697203it's the mangagamer release, it just turns yellow if you go back up
>>565696921For a second, you dropped the formalities when speaking to me, nigga
Do the Kyonyuu Fantasy sex scenes get better in later games? It just feels like a lot of Waffling right now.
>>565697540I see. It's been some years since I read it so I guess I forgot.
>>565697430let's not get ahead of ourselves
>>565696921You spoke like an incel instead of a pedo just now.
>>565696927>ENJOYABLE SISTER ROMANCE>1.9Some people on that site have strange rating systems
vn?
>>565698124Fuck off
>>565696927>HAVEN'T SEEN THE ANIMEThey didn't read Clannad then
>>565696921ye what the other guys said, descriptive of pronoun 'role' instead.
>>565698338Read your first VN
I'm dropping Kugayama Shiori's Death Diary. I'm like halfway through the game and I got a few bad ends, but after a certain point there's way less of her and she was the only good thing about the vn in the first place. The other characters are boring (although Shiori isn't that interesting in the first place either), and the story is boring and just drags on for too long with too much filler. I don't care enough to even skip through all the choices and get at least the true end, it's just boring and not worth reading at all. The only good thing about the vn is art really, and maybe some parts with Shiori but that's it really other than that it's quite boring and it just goes on for so long for no reason.And there isn't even sex.
Good morning /vn/cuties. Yesterday was a very hard day to see that both /vn/ and another general I use thought wrongly of me while I was lurking... I have mentioned for countless times that my ISP would sometimes give me a banned IP, this problem got fixed last year but this year after the war started? it was back... this is why I now barely show up here... So to see that when am gone, I keep getting accused of things I didn't do or will never do? it is kinda annoying...The Aoko drama... why would I be the one behind it? if anything, I hate Fat and Shitihime waaaaay more and they would be my perfect targets... not to mention that I read them so it would make more sense... I never touched Mahoyo, don't know Aoko and don't have anything against the Aokoposter..INB4 "the deleted posts" So? I did joke about it like I do for most of /vn/ arcs..Am sadly like a sponge that takes from any community you drop it in..when I see /vn/ doing something, I would join with them if it isn't something against my rules..and in this case, I didn't even say the "'b******" word in the deleted posts and I was just making simple posts about her..the only time I might have done this was in the post I made using a screenshot and clearly making it obvious that it is me..I didn't hide it at all! and btw, I was posting at the same time the day before that and I was having a 1v1v1 against that anon and the Aoko anon and maybe also the Mari anon to get the last post in one of the threads! the timing between our posts prove it wasn't me! and that was the anons making the edites so it is the big one!..why pretend this didn't happen? ~_~ and the edits themselves use layers for clothes and hair and when I look at them they are hidden behind things, how the hell can I do this when all I know regarding editing is how to use Figma to make big rectangles and how to add images?..my book and tier lists would've been better if i knew it T-T if anything, I have a grudge against the Loliturd and the 1788turhd
>>565696158
>>565698464Grok summary: The poster complains that ISP banned-IP issues make them lurk more, leading to unfair accusations in /vn/. They deny starting the Aoko drama, saying they lack motive, the posts weren't hidden, timing doesn't match, and they don't have the editing skills for the advanced edits.
>>565698464Shouldn't I be making those edits about loli girls or the ones the 1788 likes from that big doxing picture posted here?... or maybe I should attack AIsir, Det and Manager who anons told me that they are the ones who spoiled me back in the days?... but I never did!... why would I go for Aoko poster?... I don't think we ever interacted at all!... it just doesn't make sense T-T But I did make an edit of Redmonkey turning him into SHIT and did that for some other type-shit stuff... but I never touched Mahoyo T-T I still think it will be UTTER SHIT like the usual but I don't think it is spammed as disgustingly as the other type-shit stuff here so whatever... and the anon who is doing this and throwing my name... if he stops posting now, am not going to get bullied by him and stop posting just because am afraid that they will put the blame on me, keep posting your shit and own up to it, I supported you at first but the second you tried to pin me for it? it is over between us!This will be it... Am not going to talk anymore about this, if you going to keep accusing me? so be it... IDC~ You already spoiled me by posting random spoilers, am aiming to read all good vinnies so any spoiler is pretty much against me... "We will target you!" As if I will read any posts here without waiting for the mods to delete the spoilers first ww... like I said, my 12 hours will stand~ sorry for good /vn/cuties, but I will respond to you later so that I can still enjoy my vinnies and so that you can enjoy me ^-^So, with that all being said... today was an important day!... I talked last week about how my teeth hurt, I went to the doctor for my 1st appointment and today was my 2nd! Am now pain-free~ I also went to the mall and purchased the best fan there!... summer should be cozy this year V-V I also cleaned my room and removed all carpets and foot stuff!... summer is officially on V-V Now... I will blogpost very soon my nukige like usual~ After R07ing...
>>565698464Shut up retard.
>>565698464You don't have to apologize to sensitive discord faggot who get offended by jokes
>>565698629Grok summary: The poster continues denying the Aoko edits, questioning why they’d target the Aoko poster instead of loli/1788 content or people who spoiled them, and calls out the real culprit for pinning it on them. They’re done discussing the drama, will lurk to avoid spoilers, and share positive updates: their teeth pain is gone after dentist visits, they bought a good fan, cleaned their room for summer, and plan to blogpost nukige soon.
>>565698427Clannad as a whole is the VN and the anime, not either one singularly.
>>565698437Yeah I think im gonna drop it too. Very accurate description of it, feels like a pointless way to drain time even moreso than most moege
>>565697347oldfags that still read VNs became JOPs
>>565698728>a good fanLike a desk fan or to keep his computer cool?
who made this bread?>>565695263
>>565698629>AIsir, Det and Manager who anons told me that they are the ones who spoiled me back in the days?The ones who spoiled you are JOPs, namsissy, floodtroon, lolitard, trannager. AIsir hates you but won't spoil you. Det is your biggest supporter here.
>>565698854Me
>>565698854Anonymous
>>565698820real shame with such cool art though. At least I get to validate being right in not reading his works
>>565698427>read dogshit, broNah, I'm fine with watching CHADnime.
>>565698864I'd feel deeply embarrassed if I could actually recite shit like this.
>>565698832Quof said veteran JOPs don't read VNs that much anymore.
>>565698464Detroon is the anon who hates you most because you shitpost about RyukishiHe pretends to be a good Flowersister when you talk about Flowers, but then wants to kill you every time you say you did a R07 in the toilet
>>565698464Stop spamming blacked you fuckin zoomtard
>>565698464I forgive you, ABchan. We all have our sins. I make Redman posts every now and then.
>>565698464Just get the pass.
>>565699018VNs are moggs by EVNkino and gachaKINO nowadays
>>565699037same shit he does when manager makes an erika edit, but then shits on battler and bern
>>565698864Hi, Det
i remember coming here everyday the last 2 years, i hate that this has become an /vg/"celeb" general
>>565698437>>565698820>>565699003We warned you about the wasabi. There is a reason kazuki fumi refused to be credited for the scenario.
All-ages slop lost
>>565699590You're just salty that you don't have a name around here
>>565699590This fucking annoying subhumans fishing yous and cant contain their need of attention in their trooncord servers.
>>565699780ESL-kun...
>>565698629>summer should be cozy this year V-Vhigurashi re-read time??? >>565698864i never spoiled anyone. and the only time i got spoiled it was with black souls 2 though i don't mind since it wasn't a vn kek
>>565698820>>565699003>the art's goodI thought they used AI art?
>>565690465Archive of our own is down again but the fic is uploaded there. You know the tags.
I can't stop listening to dimension totsu lovers ost. If' Else(full non instrumental version of the title theme) is just pure eargasm. The music fucking hard carried the vn
>>565696113>>565696684She's smart when it comes to handling data, but she's unwise. She has trouble understanding people, is lacking in social finesse, and doesn't really actively try to learn knew things which won't contribute to the goal she's hyper-focused on (at first). That just makes her cute, though, and she's capable of character development. Her mom, on the other hand, is a lost cause.
>https://vndb.org/r130468>another 75h+ long kamige finally mtld without disclosure>eopiggies don't careliteral pearls before swine, y'all deserve nekonyan's fanfictions
>>565699893We will be reading.
>>565699840They used it for background cg's(at least that's what they claim). But crazy how much art carries a shit game so long as the girls look good
>>565699837Floodsis... You think we didn't realize it was you who spammed actual muramasa spoilers and pretended they were fake last year
fuck off, mtlturd
>>565700098Anonymousbro... i'm the last person here who would spoil anyone because everybody knows i'm an extremely easy to retaliate newfagand that said, i'm not evil so i don't spoil stuff on purpose
>>565698629Hello King
>>565700050>crazy how much art carries a shit game so long as the girls look good
Nomiki-sama, you can't just rape my mouth like that, even if it's a dream
>>565700230You will spoil because you are a troll. You like trolling others. There's nothing more or less to it. That's pretty much all you do.
>>565700405hatori...
>>565700230Back then you didn't have a name attached to your posts so you were more unhinged.
>/vn/cuties do be like that
>>565700571>post-credits h-scene>mio bursts in at the end>no 3PMaybe in the FD...
>>565700329only one of those look good
Any VN protagonist like this?
>>565700329Looks like absolute shit lol.
>>565700050Even with art this insanely good it didn't help>>565699610yeah I knew but its still worse than expected
>>565700878kageaki from muramasa
>>565700424my trolling doesn't hurt other, only makes them seethe which is funny. spoiling stuff is le bad, i hate seeing others suffering, let alone causing it. that's also why i hate miserypornsloppa vinnies>>565700631i got a name attached within the first week here
>>565700785Her presence in sophias route was genuinely one of the most forced things I've read. mc barely knows her for a month and she's basically a third wheel for most of the route. We maybe have at, at most, 1 hour of screentime with some short ass flashbacks before the great reveal. The final scene where MC was willing to abandon sophia to save hatori and just the general vibe of the game trying to make me care for this girl via the MC screaming friendship speeches to her had me facepalming. She really needed more development to sell that scene. Like a LOT more that elevates her beyond a npc.
>>565699018Based on the various circles I'm in, yeah. It coincided to a degree with gacha getting popular; Ou Jackson writing that event for PriCo was an early warning, then by the time Blue Archive, F/GO, and various rhythm games really swept that was pretty much that. Everyone now and again a really breakout hit would move a few bodies (like Jewelry Academia), but it took a lot. There's really just so much competition for time, and frankly speaking I think several formats of media in the world is getting better and better - not in the sense of explicitly "new stuff > old stuff," but that there's more of it and more stuff liable to appeal to someone while also increasing budgets/ambition can lead to breakout hits all the time. Video games are getting better, gacha of all genres are getting better, web novels are getting better, HRPGs getting better, blah blah... Just watching people, it gets harder to pick up and commit dozens of hours to a VN when there's such heavy competition. If someone is spending all day going through the new Limbus Company update then rounding out the rest of the week playing Ninja Gaiden 4, reading Allusionist, watching Orb: On the Movements of the Earth... I mean, it's just harder to be appealed by VNs. HRPGs is kind of what got me. I loved Bishop nukige more than anything. Kagami art is what made me learn Japanese. But then their games got super shitty, and I played 200-some nukige looking for anything good, but it was all just so wordy and time consuming and samey. Meanwhile, HRPGs are out there constantly trying new things, doing new things, and just being way better as pornography. Not all of them have great gameplay or anything, but even CG hunters at least deliver porn quickly and with immersive qualities rather than making you read 200 lines of bland dialogue per h-scene. Then sometimes you do get hits like Unholy maiden. It was just not wise for nukige to let themselves turn into slop when they have this kind of competition.
>>565695102Gud. Seiba?
MUMBAImasa
pls don't be ass
>he doesn't know
>>565701226>Video games are getting better, gacha of all genres are getting better, web novels are getting better, HRPGs getting better,Is everything getting better other than VNs
>>565701226>Games and novels are getting betterIn terms of graphics and art? Debatable but generally yes. In terms of creativity and quality? No. Not even close. Everything is in a state of decay and pigeonholed into unimaginative formulaic slop designed to appeal to as much people as possible to drive maximum profits for corporations
mumbai-core VNs?
>>565701706vns are a dead medium
>>565695000I wanted him to hug her so bad... when will the torture end?
>>565701718need to make text visible so it can say 'small cocks in it'
>>565701759UminekoMuramasaManosaba
>>565701226>Video games are getting better
>>565701706moeanon says vns are as good as ever and people who bitch about the decline don't read them much
>>565701413
>>565701759Black sheep town is basically mumbai
>>565700014Her mother is sexier
>>565701226>Video games are getting betterOn what grounds could you even claim that?
I guess Nomiki isn't all that different from Onihime. As they say, it takes a village to raise a child
>>565701706It's hard for me to think of things that aren't. Most things either have more people working on them OR more money going into them over time which equates to a general trend up just by circumstance. But eroge (that is, commercial Japanese VNs) have less people and less money, which means the remaining people are putting out shittier work under shittier conditions just to stay afloat. That's kind of rare. I bet there's other mediums like this I'm not familiar with. Maybe My Little Pony fanfiction.>>565701749>>565701936>>565702219I think it's fair to argue with that (and I anticipated it; I've seen the nonstop threads about no good games being made after 2012). But I think this is purely a perception problem. Looking at big Capcom releases like Pragmata instead of gaming as a whole. Let me give an example: Bean and Nothingness is one of, if not the, best puzzle game ever made. It is 100+ hours long, consists exclusively of good puzzles, has wholly novel gameplay exploring new concepts which parallel the development of mathematics, and is extremely challenging to boot. And basically nobody has heard of it. It just came out in late 2021 and only a hundred people bought it. Yet there it is, just sitting there, the best puzzle game ever made played only by a couple hundred of people.If you take a kind of consumerist attitude and look at like the most popular games from the biggest developers, then yeah there's some degeneration going on, but if you look at gaming as a whole, and also respect the successful AAA hits when they do come out, there is no better time to be gaming than right now. People seriously into video games are basically playing great to god-tier games constantly. And the kind of people who used to be playing Japanese VNs are the kind of people seriously into video games that scour for these god-tier games and find banger after banger.
>>565702402Does she get dp'd by those two?
Your mother.
How do I get a woman to make this face at me?
>>565702665This >>565702431 nigga's current waifu
>>565702762Mami!
>>565698864>Det is your biggest supporter here.Aside detbro, who are actually good posters left?
>>565702518No!
>>565701718
>>565699893I have finished reading it. It's quite good! A lot better than the other Kimitaku stuff on AO3. I really appreciate you making it. I'm tempted to try writing some poetry/fanfction of my own now.
>>565702762should be a bit heavier
>>565699893>>565702990fuck off to a cord
>>565702431I would certainly not argue against the idea that there are good, or even great, video games still being made, but I think that the blanket statement that "video games are getting better" would lead one to look at the state of the medium generally. There are a lot of very strong negative trends that have been going on for quite a while. Like you stated near the end of your post, if you want to find better titles you have to scour around a bit, which wasn't really the case before. Of course there were plenty of bad games in the past as well, but better titles tended to rise to the top fairly easily rather than remaining obscure like the game you mentioned. I'm fond of puzzle games and I've definitely never heard of it, though I'll admit I'm not the most knowledgeable person about the genre. I'll look into it though so I'll thank you for the rec.
>nooooooo don't discuss that VN here
>>565703090Lowercase bro no one cares about what you have to say
>Kimika and Takuji advance their relationship after using cannabisNo thanks.
>>565702431You're citing exceptions though with your pragmata example(though I never played this and have no way of knowing if it's actually good and not just overrated slop that panders to the most base instinct for cheap feels and attachment). The modern gaming crowd has piss low standards to begin with so their praise is usually worthless for the perceived quality of any given game. It is not subjective perception that games are being throttled out of creative freedom for the purposes of appeasing the braindead normies and corporate suits. You have exceptions occasionally come around like baldurs gate but those are very rare. Games from the olden era had that certain magic about them that made them magical and memorable. Maybe part of it is nostalgia but I think if you looked at games in the past, you could feel the passion and creativity compared to now.It's like eating prime cut wagyu steak with decent seasoning and sides in the past but in the modern days you have flank meat but the dressing and sides are so amazing it hides how utterly mid or underwhelming the meat is. Art and Music are definitely getting better, they almost never miss, and they have the ability to make something shit look good.
>>565701706Music never recovered from millennials ruining it
>>565702828namsissy and det are the worst posters of this general though
>>565703364dvll eyes
we only post good floating heads
That's it??!! On an island with so little to do, you'd have to double that number! Triple even
>>565703434Floodsissy is the worst poster here.
>>565700405SOURCE???
finished chihiro routewhat a change, miyako was obnoxious and unlikeable and kei was boring and basic,the main goal of their routes was dating sim self insert slop with nothing interesting added to it.i'm surprised the same guy that wrote those two could write an actual good route with chihiro, meaningful, likeable and complex. surely these next routes will be just as good and won't devolve, right?
>>565703434Wrong.
>>565703434Correct.
>>565703186You just know she is trying to influence kimikabro to smoke weed
>>565703729dimension totsu lovers
>>565703960That's fucking evil
>>565703996truly kamige. i am tempted to mtl it
>>565703727i don't spam bbc edits tho
>accidentally kicked out my godtier party members>can't proceed past floor 110 with those available nowI fucking hate this event. I swear they didn't playtest this shit.
K-Key... did you just....? in this kind of .... ALL AGES KINOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Just R07ed... when I was using the soap to clean all of my lower body, I kept thinking "If I touched my thighs like this suddcetvily it would be something MC-coded and h-scene material" I for sure didn't do it but the fact that am starting to think like that is not good... I need to finish all nukiSLOPPA fast so that I can return to all-ages-KINO and be a based BLVCK man again... *sigh* I will now commit to reading all the nukige and take a shower after...
>>565699037Stop rewriting history. Detbro came forward and begged anons to stop spamming abchan. He's one of the most misunderstood personalities around here because people like you have an agenda against him.
>>565703842What did you like most about Chihiro's route?
based JOP BTFO vnMONGs.
>>565703134I actually did mean it generally; I didn't mean to imply "you have to scour for Bean and Nothingness' it was more like "there are so many good games coming out that even great ones get ignored." But I hope you like it if you play it. It is very hard. Also look up Tactical Nexus. >>565703235The way I see it is that we used to have X amount of developers making games for what would now be called a medium-sized budget, and that's it. But now we have those same X amount of people as AA devs, on top of Y amount AAA devs making big-budget games, AND on top of Z amount of indies making a ton of games. So instead of X amount of games, we have X + Y + Z. And even if the triple A are degenerating in some notable ways, they're just a small piece of the puzzle, and even they sometimes release some bangers. You feel PLENTY of soul and passion and creativity in indies and AAs. Hell, people were pissed at Silksong for being too artistically bold recently. It's seriously hard to imagine someone keeping up with releases in 2026 wishing they were instead experiencing 2001. In 2001, you play your big name PS2 games like FFX, Jak, Ico, MGS2, and then... nothing. You just replayed them since that was it. Maybe 50~ good games came out in 2001, but now we're getting like 500+ good games a year. The scale is just so much more huge even if Call of Duty is AI slop. But well that's just my opinion. As time goes on I notice visual novel players in my communities spending more and more time playing video games. There's just constantly someone saying like "yo check this thing that just came out" then everyone else starts playing and it's a great time. Who TF is like "yo amantsu+ just came out." Not anyone I'm seein.
>>565703842Hard to say whether you'll like route 4 (Mizuki). I liked Miyako so our taste isn't the same. I'll say that the final route (Yuuko) is the best in the game, by far.
>>565704250>Just R07ed
quof, what do you think of the absolute state of this general these days
It's time for lolis
>>565704254post archive proofs, retard spammer
I liked One Outs more.
>2 minutes into her route
>>565704529Divine flatness
>>565704739Name another VN with literary merit
>>565704487I'm waiting every day for that guy who said he would start liveblogging LiL to actually do so and he just isn't. Bitch.
>>565704739there are two futatards here, kimikasissy and 1788
>>565704739I made the thread
>>565704254Detbro probably isn't even posting here anymore.
Umineko is better than subashibi
>>565704952nice try
>>565704317You just have recency bias. You're failing to account for proportionality. Yes there are more good games by virtue of the sheer amount of games being produced cause the barrier to entry is lower, but there are also WAY more games that are complete shit. Games also feel samey with the same mechanics, themes, narrative devices and what not. Something like dohna dohna was truly unique, not really for it's mechanics but the way it incorporated a relatively unpalatable and extremely rare concept into the game and make it work well. I almost never see games like that anymore outside of those cheap ass nukiges. We don't see stuff like rance anymore. A lot of these new ass games basically recycle concepts and dress it up differently without anything unique to add to it.
>>565704281it's partly just personal taste and not to sound like a normie but i don't really like galge for the sake of galge, for me to like galge there has to be something more (likeable characters, a story that's actually saying something, something funny, etc.) like, to point out the most basic example, clannad. the first tale had none of that, all the personal issues were banal and existed to serve some minor character drama. the theme about creating art gets completely abandoned. there's literally no reason to care for any of the characterschihiro's route about a character with an actual personality (not just an archetype) who has genuine problems the character has to struggle with and navigate through and the story is actually hooking because there's something to think about and be emotionally moved by. and the storyline about writing a book actually gets resolved and adds to the story instead of being a backdrop. renji is also a good mc and shuuichi is good comedic relief.>>565704361i'm looking forward to yuuko's since her scenes were the only part of the first tale i enjoyed and i pretty much kept reading because i like the intro scene between yuu and yuuko and made me think there could actually be something good here, hopefully i'll like mizuki's too
>>565705023>Something like dohna dohna was truly unique, not really for it's mechanics but the way it incorporated a relatively unpalatable and extremely rare concept into the game and make it work well.Aquacuck...
>>565704824Rance
>Det and Manager do be like that going to the cord to discuss how today's UmiMasa war would be like so that they don't go out of the scripts they are writing for the /vn/cuties to play in>they do lewd stuff in a cord call together when they imagine how /vn/cuties are seething from the artificial war they spam
>>565704989trvke
>>565704851How did you convince the entire cartel to play it recently?
>moePIGs do be like that
>>565705017You wish.
>>565705528Did he really say that
Literally. Me.
>>565705286Marriage material.
Deredere is the worst personality type and I'm tired of pretending it's not
>>565704914Subahibi fans would never read key trash
>>565704859kimikabro isnt intersexhe is a straight (slightly feminine) man!!!
>>565705797>Literally. Me.Bro you're literally admitting that you're a pedophile based on that screenshot.
>>565705286I... need to marry this cutie.
>me when /vn/cuties are misbehaving
qrd on aquacuck?
qrd on kimikabro?
Who
>>565706148>dullthat's you.
>>565705935It's not if the girls entire character isn't just based on that archetype. If she has depth and is interesting it is often one of the best
>>565706071Some oldfag lolicon who is into scat and prostitution.
>>565705978I owed Kimika bro for his kindness
Is there a problem with the tag "Lip Sync"? Theres barely any results on vndb.
>>565703842Watch the anime when you're done with the game, it tremendously improves the first routes and has some interesting changes to Kuze's.Chihiro is by far the best, but Yuuko's came close.>>565705107>galge for the sake of galgeYou're looking for charage then. First Grisaia, YMK, teninai, princess x...
>>565706021Chachamaru...?
>>565706273kek
>me talking about the smartest FLOWERsister who always helped me and told me to read Jiangshi x Daoshi (and maybe Marco?)
>>565704734>>565704941>>565705528>>565705797What a great start.
>>565706071primordial cuckchad from the cord
>>565706203But 9 times out of 10 it is.
>>565706360It's too good.
>>565706021Shirokamiw Beato
What are the odds this localizer fanfiction?
>>565706071He used to spam loli scat
>>565705409It was a snowball effect. Most of my LiL posting when I started was in a smaller channel so not all of the cartel saw it. When I finished, Person X saw my review ( not my posting) and got interested, but didn't play immediately. It took over a year before they got around to it and started. Their playstyle is slow and methodical, posting a bunch of screenshots while working their way gradually through a game in a very public primary channel for the cartel. A month or so into this slow liveblog they had finally posted enough that a pretty big "cartel member" noticed and got interested. This big cartel member played on a whim, but their playstyle was totally different. They played incredibly fast. They blasted past the first guy, and in order to not spoil the first guy, started making a bunch of posts either spoilered or vagueposting about insane shit. Like "oh shit I can't believe this," "oh my fucking god this is so kino," "I can't wait for you to get to X point." And that was really the explosion, which had little to do with me beyond inspiring that first guy to play it. Suddenly every Cartel member is seeing, 1, a bunch of methodical screenshots showing off the game, and 2, one of their close friends + respected JOP gushing non-stop about how insane and good the game is getting. And this inspired more people, who then also gushed, which inspired more people, etc. The secret in this sauce is just that basically everyone loved it and so kept talking about it. The #1 most important thing for convincing other people to play something is to simply show them the good parts of the game while demonstrating having a good time yourself. They will see the good parts, think "wow that looks good," then they will think "I want to be having a good time like this person," and then they will start. A big key part is that basically everyone who actually plays it ends up liking it a lot. I think of the 50+ Cartel members playing, 95% of them love it. But there is that 5%.
>>565706710How are the H-scenes in LiL? Are they all the generic samey stuff you'd find in 95% of vn's or is there some good variety that is hot and written well?
>>565704014
WEEWOOWEEWOOKOIKATSU EVN SLOP COMING THROUGHPEEPEEPOOPOO>*shits on your street*
>>565706710everyday i thank the lord for being immune to herd mentality
>>565706608My sixth sense is telling me the original joke was about osomatsu-san>>565706862What an arousing emotional creating image. Its easy to imagine turning her around and having some kind of interaction with her
>>565706432kyute.
>>565706710So the trick is to get moogy to notice your VN
>>565703960Weed is the most vile shit ever. Stoners are severely brain-damaged to find that shit enjoyable.
>me begging the moePIG to marry the moegirl who lost her virginity to THEM and for him to not mention her past in front of her anymore because she lost all of her memories of this after it happened from the shock and everyone pretends that it didn't happen, except that 1 moegirl (she came to Japan from EU) who wants the moePIG (she wants to steal his money) so she will mention that to her and break her and the moePIG needs to help her or if he doesn't she will go back to THEM to confront them of what they did to her and then they will do it again to her but then her neighbor, Jamal, would come there and beat the ahh's of all of THEM and she would fall for him and get a very hot h-scene of her getting cured by reliving the same type of joy but this time with a man she loves, while the moePIG would end up with the EU moegirl who would give him 1 pathetic h-scene (blindfolding him and then inserting stuff in all of his holes (even the small one) and gaslighting him that they did it together when in truth she just used toys) and then after that she steals all the fortune the MC's parents left for him before going overseas and then he become homeless living inside of a box next lots of boxes, before the ge ends, he would see the first moegirl and Jamal walking the streets, hands locked together, they would kiss each other without noticing him and he would be there in the background between them, this would be the final CG before credits roll>the true ending would be just the same but when he becomes homeless, he would find Karen-chan living in a box next to him and then he will rape her after he lost his mind from seeing that last CG>Karen-chan will like it and there would be a hint that if this ge ever got a sequel, it would be about Karen-chan fixing him
Looks like things are starting to heat up. It's time to wake up the beauty
I want to procrastinate k3. I want to read myth.
>>565707163weed is decent way to waste time if that's your thing but holy shit it smells like fucking ass
>>565706710>But there is that 5%Do they get excommunicated by the cartel?
>>565707312its mid
>>565706857The h-scenes in LiL are usually either horror or very unpleasant for dramatic purposes, like coming after a relationship exploding. The protagonist is mentally ill and kind of psychotic so like half the H-scenes have him schizoing out like pic related. A good number of scenes he is just catatonic while the girls rape him since he is unable to resist while losing his mind. I would say as a consequence LiL has some of the most important and worth reading H-scenes in VNs since each one is related to the plot and develops the characters meaningfully etc, but as a consequence there are probably very few H-scenes a person will consider hot, unless they like getting raped by schoolgirls.>>565707364No. Hadler is one of them.
>>565707361You mean xitter? He doesn't use that shit anymore due to elon musk. He's on bluesky.
>>565706710I'm actually playing right now. Still at the first chapter, but so far it seems fun. Only complaint is that you apparently need to read all the girls' events, and I don't like all of them, so some parts are a drag. But yes, so far pretty good some of the banter is top-tier.
>>565707514>Hadler is one of them.Now that's a twist.
>>565707845die gachamong
>>565707845detroon pp grabber url
>>565708014That's aquacuck, retard.
>>565708049same coindifferent sides
>>565707234>Karen-chan will like it and there would be a hint that if this ge ever got a sequel, it would be about Karen-chan fixing himKarenschizo?
>>565708095Sexy
>>565708095that's a cute kid
HFK
i feel like i'm the only anonymous anon here
>>565707659Based as fuck. And yeah having to do every girl can be a slog since there's no way anyone is going to like all of them at the start. The only silver lining there is that over time character events and main events start to blend together so it stops feeling like you're going out of your way to do X girl's events and more like you're just always progressing the main story.>>565707771Yeah, he finds the dialogue bland and feels that the girls talk like they're they're part of a hivemind, not to put too many words in his mouth. He thinks it's respectable but is basically the biggest critic.
>>565707845vro how do i change my username
>>565708380No you're not, floodcuck.
>>565708440You need an item for that lol.
>>565708440Spend $10
>>565708470i'm a jep (MTLer)
>>565708539Whats your AI setup? Do you have your own infra and tooling?
>>565707845who tf reported this
>>565706265>Watch the anime when you're done with the gamereally? heard it was bad and i got recommended the vn instead but will do
>>565708624i just use google translate with my phone on a selfie stick
>>565708663No one. He deleted it himself.
>>565708663I did because we're full and I didn't want anyone to feel disappointed that they couldn't participate.
What happened to totopo?
>>565707659Blogpost it
>>565708539
>>565708668You were told wrong then, one of shaft's finest works and better adaptations out there
>>565709015He died of ligma
>>565709015Terrorizing /uma/ last I heard
>>565709453i dunno why you're mad at me, i didn't choose to suck another man's cum out of her cunt, you should be mad at the scenario writer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NenAIIHTSno
>>565707845>too late againit's over
How do so many of you know how to play mahjong
>>565701413>LaplacianIt was over before it even began
>>565699610I thought Kazuki Fumi was the main writer though what happened?
>>565709453Im never reading this wtf is this gross jewish filth
MC kinda looks like him.. you know who I mean T0T
That's my name
>>565710434Kageaki...
>>565710415just another NiTRoplus+ game
rape jokes aren't funny.
>>565710434Generic moege MC?
Some things aren't possible to rewrite. A wound from childhood can sometimes take a lifetime to heal.
>>565710434Kill yourself pederast .
>>565710707True they cant help themselves
>>565710735>Some things aren't possible to rewriteAre you sure?
>>565709957i learned it this week
>>565710681Primula!
>>565711242We need more heroines like this.
>>565711242She's very prim
>>565708668The anime is fucking terrible compared to the game. Since you hated Miyako you might like her route in the anime more, so you might want to watch it for that. The anime absolutely and completely butchers Yuuko's route in every way imaginable, and even inverts things the route is about into something else because the writer of anime clearly had a personal distaste for certain content (e.g. religious) in the game.
>>565711073In another life, I learned the limits of rewriting actually...
>>565711073REWRITE OF ZA RIFE
>>565709773>>565711242She's really cute
>reached 6 h-scenes in the trapge>they are the last h-scenes before I get all endings in it>after that it is just the "DLC" that got more h-scenes (not sure if it got real story)Seems like am very close to finishing it... I will do my best to make it the first ge I finish this year while blogposting here... so this month will be it!
>>565709361No it isn't a good adaptation, especially regarding Yuuko. If you liked the way her route is "adapted" in the anime you're an idiot.
>>565711242When did you become a lolicon
>>565711651>>565711447What's wrong with it? I don't remember any inversion.
>>565710434Battler...
>>565709560Kiryu is going to get his ass...
>her: "am sorry that I drank too much of your blood'>MC: "and am sorry that I raped you again">she blushesBut like KYS writer you pathetic man, no girl would be like this be it a vampire or a cockroach, what is this writing? a 300 years old proud vampire who saved her virginity for all of this time would turn into this after tasting a mediocre male member from such a shity person that got nothing good going for him in comparison? Do moePIGmong really ask writers to make MCs this shitty so that they can self-insert? they don't read chuuniKINO because they can't self-insert into the MC who keep thriving to be better to the point of making the whole world his Bword?... this is why I will always be thankful that I was born as a black man and thanks to that I got lots of testrone that make it impossible for me to be like those moePIGs~
>>565711663I'm not.
>>565712114>I actually like lolis in a maternal way!
>>565712369Nice to know I never fucking said that.
>>565711773Heavy spoilers for the game so the anon who's reading it should not read any of this.1. When Yuu and Yuuko run away together, in the game they go to the church where they raised as orphans, in the anime they go to a Shinito shrine.2. The scene at the church at the end has the soundtrack of Kuze's violin performance of Silent Night, which in the anime is removed for a shitty original song in the game.3. When Yuuko dies in the game she crawls into the church and prays to see Yuu again. In the anime she dies outside slumped against a tree.4. At the ending Yuuko asks Yuu if he believes in God now (reminder that he's speaking to a literal angel here). In the game he says yes, in the anime he says no.5. Yuuko's pregnancy is removed, including the vision she has before she dies about being together with Yuu and their daughter.6. In the anime after Yuuko runs away she actually goes back at one point, which never happens in the game.7. Nothing about Yuuko's abuse is treated seriously in the anime since it doesn't have any lasting psychological damage like the game goes into detail about, such as her having night terrors or trying to kill herself after getting pregnant. The whole thing is just treated in a sensationalist way in the anime.
>>565712056I think you're self inserting as her a bit too much
>>565712114i think i said this before but you post lolis a lot to not be a lolicon
>>565712459Shinto*
>>565712056If the MC were a girl you wouldn't say this
GG
>>565712114We're all lolicons here so no shame.
vro almost got put into debt (﹏)
>>565712978Truly a bro
>>565712459It's not treated as sensationalist just because it didn't have the time to show all of it in that way, it's very explicit how much of an impact it had on her.>god>He tells Yuuko that he is no longer an atheist (although he remains agnostic).Nothingburger complaints of runtime limitations and song preference.
you know I was just thinking that it was getting pretty close to mindbreak o' clock again. No time for playing, Nomiki
>>565713365You read 10 vns at once?
>>565713320If you can't see the clear trend of negating anything relating to Christianity in the anime you're an idiot.
>>565604835The Divegrass Poll results are in. Here's the rundown.Joining the team:>Redman (with enough votes to be key striker)>Pink Sluts>O P P A ILeaving the team:>Kokukino>Please Bang My Wife>LoliconiaWhat do we think for Redman's name? Is just Redman good enough? If you got suggestions I'll take the funniest one.
>>565713418*nukigeThey're doing a goon marathon
>>565713497Name him IAAJ IABMDRN
>>565713581You mean he
>>565712056You just haven't tasted good alpha dick dvll @__@
>zero thoughts in head
>>565713449Impossible to fully negate it given how integrated into the story it is so its kind of a pointless complaint even if it lessened it a bit. Christianity wasn't that huge in ef in the first place.
>>565713695*she
>>565713497>Leaving the team>LoliconiaNOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>565713497>Kokukino leavingI quit this general. Bye.
>>565713497redman is what we all call him, redman is what he should be called
>>565713804He had barely any votes too. I was surprised.
>AIsir do be like this
det getting banned for the mahjong room instead of all the blacked spam kinda feels like witnessing al capone getting arrested for tax evasion
>>565713771You're simply not a serious person. I told you plenty of examples of how it was negated. Everything they could remove was removed, and it was indeed substantial, completely altering important plot points in the story. You can't handwave it away by saying it was "a bit" or it was "pointless". The story in the anime is not the same story as the one as the on in the game. Maybe you prefer the story you got in the anime, you're entitled to your tastes, but it is not a good adaptation of the game.
>>565713497Lolishitters? What happened?? Ohnonononononono!!
>>565714004in a more comfy thread it would have been a 4 player room....
>>565714052This CG is just disgusting. The angle. Her smirk. Her posture. It's just fucking gross.
ABchan care to weigh in on this? I feel like you'd be an expert in these matters.
It’s Kyousuke’s birthday today!….But why is that the CG chosen for the birthday celebration pic lmao, makes it feel so unhappy
>>565714004who gives a shit my man seriously
>Loliturd>WWW>blacked anon>moeWHALEDelighted to see all the /vn/cuties together T-T
What a pitiful kid. On the other hand, there are very few kids who grew up with as much love as Nomiki. Does a parent's love really matter that much? . Probably so. You always want what you can't have
>>565714247Many people actually
>>565713497Now we only need Rance to complete the big tree
>>565714004det got banned for telling the blacked spammer to kill himself while the spam stayed up lmao
>>565714204>using a heavy spoiler for his birthday announcementCan't even tell if this is dumb or based as fuck.
>>565714204haha it really is an odd choice, but I guess you could say that it stands out when compared to the other birthday cards that they make
>>565714004QRD
>>565714601Schizophrenia
>no tadashikunaitadashikunai...
>>565714454Would the CG of him sitting alone in the classroom as the world disappears have been better?
>>565714284wtf are those black bars. Is ditzy demons not in 16:9?
>>565714601al capone was a mafia boss and they couldn't make him go to prison for all the bad stuff he did, but eventually he got cucked for tax evasion o algo
why the fuck is majsoul still milking SAOslop in this day and age anyway
>>565714693Yes, since there's a happy variation of that one.They've already used it before, though, and never reuse CGs for birthday announcements afaik.
>>565714095It's an adaptation, it's bound to have changes. Whether it's better or not is subjective.I see all of it as minor logic-driven changes (impossible to spend a night at a church unnoticed), it doesn't alter anything major about the story, church isn't excised and arguably plays a larger role even in spite of the changes considering the imagery.But ye we'll just have to agree to disagree.
You know what needs to be done MC-kun...
>>565714660Fuck off
>>565714004That's not him, retard.
>>565714052This cg alone makes me want to pick up this ge but soulless moeges bore me to death, grim.
>>565714902>church ... arguably plays a larger roleYeah we'll have to just disagree since you're content to make shit up with no basis whatsoever so you can handwave everything away.
>>565714174yeah it's as if she's about to brap in your face or something
>>565715037These retards can't even recognize aquacuck.
>this is what PINK's cocking looks like
>>565715367What about pink's cock?
>>565714151I prefer 3 player rooms since the game is quicker and you can't spam chii...
HOLY FUCKING KINO. Bro literally pulled a kengo, but crazier. UGH my fuckin' knees....
>>565715606Why are you generating these homosexual images
>>565715650ZAMN
>>565715606Cute.
She prob has no h-scenes which is a damn shame
>Redmonkey posters do be like that
>>565715689Let me ship in peace!
Kek, starting to like this girl.
>>565715689Why not?
>>565713497Yeah, we're thinking kino is finally back.
>>565714647>>565714775Naruhodo (doesn't get it at all)
A good onii-chan educates his precocious little sister that browses adult websites while calling her brother a pervert
>>565716019a good onii-chan would pick her panties himself
>>565703235>>565704317Interesting to read this thread as someone who did the opposite and took a (semi) break from vidya to go back to reading VNs. Funny enough I did the same thing with FF14 -> fighting games, even though the joke is people go the other way aroundI think this is simply people just having their fill of a medium and moving on to try new things. While I do agree that vidya on average is more personally fulfilling, VNs still have a niche that isn't really explored/executed as well elsewhere (namely moege). I don't really care to read chuunige when I can feel/do badass things in games like NG4, Nioh 3, DMC5, and good plot is medium agnostic.
>/vn/cuties do be shitposting about vinnies without reading themThis is a form of "Larp" btw... don't do it~ unless you got a good reason to do so, like how me reading Shiturashi and decoding it here made me allowed to shit now on Uminekro~
>>565680264I don't know who this is, but I need her to sit on my face.
>>565716205MHBST
Bros, why does the heroine of Mamahaha 2 look like Agnes?
>>565716205ffnp bp
>>565713497>obvious rigging for redman
Umi-sama, you little shit! Don't route invade during the good part
>>565716361/vn/ is an Elaine general.
>>565716205>but I need her to sit on my face.She canonically doesn't wash her ass properly
Where's Redman?
>>565716205newfag...
>>565716431Altia*FTFY
>>565716502In our hearts.
>>565716535*AltinaFTFY
>>565716431Sorry, I'm an Altinachad.
Laura is the best btw
>>565716136>I think this is simply people just having their fill of a medium and moving on to try new thingsDefinitely, but kind of the problem here is that people get their fill of VNs far faster than almost any other medium because there's not really a lot of "greats" out there. Like there was a poll that showed 90% of even dedicated VN fans participating in VN fan communities don't read more than 50 VNs total. Meanwhile, it would be ridiculous to imagine a gamer that has only played 50 games. There are easily 50 great games coming out each year. I think that the average life of a VN player will be like: they get introduced through some kind of starter game like MGQ, Katawa Shoujo, or something else. Then they go through the gameplay games (Baldr, Rance, Eushully, maybe a few others). Then they play the plotge legends (Muramasa, Subahibi, Oretsuba.) Then they play a few moege. Then they just quit forever. It would be like a gamer playing through Nintendo games then maybe a call of duty or two before quitting the medium forever; it just doesn't really happen.
>>565713497Who's representing pink sluts? No one talks about Katawa Shoujo anymore.
/db/bros...
I knew I saw this before!
I'm glad that Hairi can kakkoii maxx in this route.
>>565716835games are also designed to be addicting, while vn's are not and most people don't have the attention span nor patience to sit and read.
Steins;Gate? More like Shallow;Story.
>>565716739>sword autist>techletI don't get the appeal.
>Makinacchi do be like that
>>565717217>sword autist>techletThat's the appeal right there.
>>565717236Like what
>>565716850It's been Mari from Renai Royale for a while. Pretty important pink.
>>565716850>Who's representing pink sluts?I vote for that STINKY pink Mihiro!
>>565716850your mom lol
>>565717215Mid;Gate
>>565717359Mari is NOT a slut
>>565716136>namely moegeThe most dogshit genre in this medium.
Total pink death
>>565717359She's gross
>>565715229I just fail to see the church's role in the story as a whole besides the imagery which was reinforced in the adaptation, even at the cost of other stuff. As in changing it the way the anime did doesn't really change anything imo. Maybe im just shit with the abstract as per usual
>>565717545...goes to yurige
>>565713497>oppaibotted as fuck>please bang my wifeAre you retarded, Otou and NTR are such a core part of vn that this shouldn't be up for any vote
>>565716469then I will lick her clean
>mfw nukiMONGs in the thread
>>565718129You're the biggest nukimong in this thread right now.
>>565718129
>>565717997...on planet opposite day.
ge where an heroine breaks up with you while overseas?
Sex with erotic chibis
>>565717997...on planet Earth
This CG reminds me of last year's winter when I read Swan Song... most of my read was late at night when the Electricity was cut and I was using my half-broken Laptop to read it while wearing very light clothes so that I can feel the cold goes deep into my body... I miss that reading experience T-T nothing can come next to it...
>>565718493
>>565716835I generally agree with this, I don't think VNs alone are sustainable as someone's sole entertainment source, and this is coming from someone who's only read like 70 VNs total over the course of like 8-9 years. But I don't think this isn't really a problem, people just need to not have unrealistic expectations when it comes to enjoying a medium with minimal replayability. You just need to strike a balance, or do what I'm doing and take regular breaks.Everything else you said I think is just personal preferences. You can be content as a moebuta with how regularly those get TL'd, let alone released (for the JOPs).And There are definitely people who played video games during their youth and maybe drop it/don't much anymore as they get older. I have normalfag friends that are like this. You're just in a biased environment where heavy digital media consumption is treated as the norm.
Lucia is a miracle of the universe.
>IDBLT~
>>565701226>HRPGs is kind of what got me. My problem with those is how many of them seem to take place from the perspective of the woman, and furthermore, how many of them are about her getting passed around by a conga line of ugly bastards and monsters. Meanwhile, Monmusu Quest is femdom garbage full of 90% shit character designs. I found one very small HRPG that actually appealed to me once, Absolute Obedience Crisis, and Black Souls was alright, but most of the time when an HRPG catches my eye, it ends up gross and disappointing. You seem to be aware of the cream of the crop of this media, though. Are there any other high quality HRPGs with male leads? I guess I've been meaning to play The Last Sovereign.
>>565718783Maybe on planet genius!
>>565717378>>565717545>>565717621
>>565718749I fucking hate how this bitch has no idea how she good she got it
>>565718861>My problem with those is how many of them seem to take place from the perspective of the womanDon't read Amakano 3
Wow. I wasn't expecting such a great route out of Nomiki. It seems like this writer, Kai, was in charge of the final heroine route and true route too. Hopefully he can display some masterful writing in those routes as well.Nomiki is a strong contender for best heroine route so far. Gonna take a break before doing Ao's route next
>>565718041Well I'd agree with you but it had the second lowest votes. Dunno what the fuck's up with that.
aaaaaaa I hate how she is literally me T-T I hate when I find myself in not-all-ages girls... Like, "this girl is me... but she does it with this man and I will never do it with a man!" so it always break my connection to her... and no, sadly no FLOWERS girl was like me... I can find myself in them sometimes, but in the end of the day, they were very distinguishable characters that are not made to be your "self-insert" and they have a very great persona, you would be lying if you said they were like you... unless you talking about Rika or the nothingburger-3-parts-missing-"main-girl" ,,, @_@
>>565718941Being blind isn't a good thing.
>>565719191>and I will never do it with a man!Why?
>>565719171probably because the player is associated with a shitty game no one remembers, it should be something else
>>565719039Honestly, all h-scene in amakano 3 were hot, they nailed with it, shame about route lenght per heroine... go back to 3 heroine you idiots...
Why aren't you guys playing Sengoku Koihime?
Room doko?
Wtf... Tama is literally me... and you can't eroge her... OK, Tama is me from now on T-T
nuuuuuuuuuuuuun~
>>565719191>>565719694I want to be a woman too
>>565719594I didn't know that there's a translation.Link?
>Det and Manager do be like that
>>565719594Do I need the prequel?
>>565719461Well I could put it up for a 1v1 with the lowest voted player that made it, which is White Woman Heroine, and see if people want a different name.
Ditzy demons posting in 2026?
TRVE... since I started living here, even tho am still shut in, I see how everyone here is strong, both women and men @_@
Absolutely love the banter between those two characters.
>>565719594Because I won't waste my time on kusoge
>>565720383Just cheap sex jokes
Hell does that mean?
>>565717545The worst genre in the medium is utsuge
>>565720496don't judge a joke just by its punchline bro
>>565720383"Then why dress and wear makeup so provocatively?"
>>565720692*best
>one of my mutuals tweets about a nukige>tweet gets over 300k views, 10k likes and 6k bookmarksholly shit, alive medium twitter algorythm is so funny
>>565718742>Everything else you said I think is just personal preferences.It's true I have personal preference here, but I'm also measuring what I see in other people as a member of the VN community for over a decade. It's not like it's just me feeling this way or doing other things, it's nearly everyone. I do know one guy who plays new VN releases each month and is up to 600 fully completed VNs, but he's a clear outlier in terms of average population. I'd say for every 1 moebuta happy to play a bunch of moege you have like 50 to 100 people who read a few then stop. >And There are definitely people who played video games during their youth and maybe drop it/don't much anymore as they get older.Yeah I'm just talking about serious people here. Like even serious VN gamers end up barely playing VNs, but serious gamers tend to stick to their genres much longer and play a lot more.>>565718861I like female perspective games; they're not my preference, but most of the big hitters are female POV and I like them. So most of my favorites are probably stuff you'd hate unfortunately. My recommendations would be surface level like Sequel Thirst stuff (though they're kind of femdommy too), takamakuran games like New Game or 傭兵の冒険, Dungeon and Bride, Reincarnated as an orc, Black Souls (lol), Great Wall March, uh maybe Imouto life I haven't actually played that one, that demon girl game from AVANTGARDE, Yes My Lord...You can check the /hgg/ bin and ctrl F MaleMC if you want.https://ipfs.io/ipfs/QmT76G6uwiEQYv8LjdFC3DfhLtt5jpPS2x2wfqQL8tt2rA/
KokuKINO will save this general on May 21
>>565716835IF that is the case then part of the problem is the ranking fetish at work surfacing the same old 20-30 VNs all the time when there are over 50000 titles to choose from, endless circlejerking here being another.
>>565721021Whats even the point of this post?
>>565721252ragebait
>did not know this game had abchan @__@
>>565720496It's about the whole exchange between them. I obviously cannot record the whole event and post it here, lol. But almost literally every dialogue between Makoto and the MC is comedy gold.
>>565720496But enough about Qruppo
OPPAI is the only thing that can save visual novels
>>565721483Almost every dialogue you post here claiming it's top tier banter is just sex jokes. Is the comedy in it pretty much just based on that?
>>565720383That reads like LLM output from a chatbot session
>>565721216I did my time hunting for obscure kamigems in the VN mines. It was not very rewarding. You have to sit through so much shit. Here, let me post one I will bet nobody here has played or even heard of. It's a lot easier to make a game that's kind of fun to play than to write 30+ hours straight of raw text that's fun to read. People stick to the top 30 since anything blow that gets increasingly nightmarish.
>>565721452
>>565721594what is it about thigh garters that is so sexy
>>565721594SEX
>>565721671Kageaki...
Worst thing ever... specially when I lose the panties gacha and search my sofa for like 5 minutes and find out I got none... to live my life in my room without wearing anything down there? I feel like literally walking on egg-shells, can't read any visual novels AT ALL, can't browse the internet, my only choice is to watch a family friendly content creator on YouTube and hide the videos on the side to not see them or to just play TF2 or something else that got no women and only men... Demoman doesn't make me react btw, but imagining him doing my most hatred class, the scout... hng T-T
>>565719859https://forums.fuwanovel.moe/topic/32024-english-fun-translation-18-sengoku-%E2%80%A0-koihime-x-~-otome-kenran-%E2%98%86-sengoku-emaki-~/
>>565721452Whomst art thou quoting
>>565720838The girl in question, at first glance, is your typical strict megane class representative, while in reality, she's a huge fucking pervert. It's a pretty banal archetype, but it's so fucking good here mainly due to the 10/10 banter between the MC and her. Second best girl so far, hands down.
They do and I'm tired of pretending they don't
>>565721845Thank you.Can I read this if I haven't read the prequel, the prequel's three alternaive versions and its four fandiscs?
>>565721021Sounds like Reddit behaviour to me.
>>565721562Only 3 more months...
Yah, my village is filled with this and we got a lady like that... if this happened to me I would killmyself, but being an only-child makes me like the ruler of the house so this ain't happening at all and never ever ever~ *one of our relatives a couple of weeks ago tried so hard to push for a marriage with me to their son to the point of making it sound like a deal and how much they are willing to give a way, I nearly wanted to cry thinking about what if there was another girl in my place and her parents pushed her to do it and she didn't like it and ended up being forced into it*
>>565721626Sex jokes are fun, zoom-zoom. Nothing wrong with them. Also, the MC is a gigantic pervert and schizo whose main goal is to have sex with his students. What kind of jokes did you expect involving an MC like that?
>>565722438They're fine in moderation. If that's literally all of the sol comedy then it becomes boring and unbearable.
>>565720383how is this banter when its a straight up refusal. Does this game not have a backlog to show?
>>565720383200+ hours of this shit?
>/vn/cuties do be addressing what they did to the Karenschizo like that
>>565722871It's JOP approved so that means it's kamige
>>565720383Holy reddit
aaaaaaaaaaaaaa an h-scene but I need to piss so bad but I can't because my clothes are dirty so I need to go naked to the bathroom but my parents still awake so am waiting them to go to sleep to be naked and go to piss or I can't do anything now with that h-scene aaaaaaaaa
>>565723000S;G 0 was JOP approved and that ended up being kind of awful.
>>565720383This post made someone really mad kek.
Bro just stop blogposting LiL. You're only ruining its reputation.
>>565723000>>565722871>>565722610This is basically how it goes trying to talk about LiL and post screenshots in a JP VN environment. You post some innocuous screenshot of some line you like and suddenly people are extrapolating the entire content of a 3.5 million word game based on a few lines they've seen while talking about how a slog their imagined version of the game must be. It's really ridiculous. To this day I don't get why people are so obsessed with judging games they haven't played as if people posting a few screenshots they like are like making a court case for the game and if they don't do a good enough job and pick the right ones suddenly they lose in court and the game is Confirmed Bad by chuds who haven't played it and get off to sneering at things.
>>565723000Trips of truth.
Lessons in Love is actually pretty decent but the dev and his discord are fucking terrible
>>565722620No, EVNs in general don't have backlogs.
>>565723227That's Science Adventure slop so they're awful by default.
>>565723373>that line10+ hours of this shit? Really?
>>565721983nobody knows, jops don't even bother larping it
>>565720383>>565707659jop kamige btw
>>565723448Im noticing a history button
>>565721153>Yeah I'm just talking about serious people here.What do you define as serious? People that say they are? People that have shitposted in a general/discord server for years? People who took a poll? For me if you're not actively consuming VNs then you're more or less retired from the hobby.In any case we're not really disagreeing on much here. In an absolute number, vidya far outstrips VNs in hours of quality content released, but that's not necessarily a bad thing.>you have like 50 to 100 people who read a few then stop.You get what you want out of the medium and then move on or take a break. Also I don't see much reason why there needs to be a divide between these two mediums anyways. Unless you want to make consuming VNs your whole identity, you're not barred from playing vidya or having any other hobby.>serious gamers tend to stick to their genres much longer and play a lot more.How much does that matter though? Would you rather spend 10k hours playing ASSFAGGOTs or enjoy your life changing Ritterorden and then move on?
>>565723531Did you read it, or at least the prequel?
>>565723509if you think I made that post you oughta do more reps
>>565723563That just unlocks random wikipedia loredumps about medieval battles.
>>565723348That's all bro's been posting
>>565723635Who the fuck are you and why should I care about you?
>New Oppaige has school houses.Imagine ever being house Slytherin or Wolffindor and not based house Owlclaw.
>>565723708I literally posted the whopping total of three screenshots in the whole thread. But if you're mad, then fine, go back to enjoying the trapspam or the corders spamming. Sorry for actually talking about a visual novel in a Visual Novel General.
>EVN
>>565723703lmaokamige
We don't care about your EVN fuck off
>>565724190>posted the whopping total of three screenshots in the whole threadAcross a couple of hours. It either means two things: that's the only thing this VN offers or it's the only thing that impresses you. Either way you're the worst blogposter ever.
>>565724360yay, i'm the second worst now!
>>565723348I don't think there's much point in trying to have a sincere discussion about something you like on a site full of trolls who hate all JOPs just for the sake of it. A sense of inferiority is quite corrosive and can really cloud some people's judgment.
>>565724190Maybe stop bigging it up as kamige if you can't back it up with proper screenshots
Fujos won hard again
/vn/ - we hate visual novels and everyone who reads them
>>565724360nta but if a vn is interesting enough for me i'll stop bothering to blogpost for a bit because i'm too invested
My favorite point about the Little Busters anime, part 2. In the opening of Refrain, the scene at the beginning depicts how the four original Little Busters members have been dealing with Riki's narcolepsy all along. It's a divine direction that really makes you feel, once again, that this is a story about friendship. And yeah, these guys just love Riki way too much...https://x.com/Nahs04654967/status/2050826801388413190
>>565724489why is blue associated with fujo? i think alicesoft also had a blue division for fujoshit
>>565724453>who hate all JOPsJOPs brought it upon themselves by being elitist faggots
>>565680264>best vinnie this>best vinnie that>{HE} joins the chat>Maruto shivering>R07 getting bullied>Shimizu Hatsumi Smirking>SCA-Ji doing it in his pants>Narahara feeling betrayed
never felt better being a jep
why do you tease us so...https://files.catbox.moe/nd0yc0.png
>>565724626>by being elitistThanks for confirming once again that you're obsessed with them for making you feel inferior.
>>565724524vn gatekepts the hobby yes
>>565724453>who hate all JOPs just for the sake of itmaybe you can't have a sincere discussion because you're not being sincere yourself
>>565724834
The longer passages in LiL are just harder to share. It's so dense with so much built up character context and imagery that it will slip out of the mind of an observer until all they remember are the easier to grasp sex jokes.
>>565724791Nothing. Literally nothing.
>>565723348This is exact type of shit the dev and his discord like to say when people don't suck the game off btw
>>565724453It's not that hard to understand why people hate JOPs
>>565724524I love the world and everything in it, though!
>>565724604I associate it with NTR.
>>565724919>em-dash festwhen was the first chapter rewritten again?
>>565724919Reads like AI slop
>>565724919HFK
>>565725062The next thread will be these faggots shitposting nonstop about this.
>>565725062>jops won again...the MTL award
>>565724919Reads kino.
BLOGPOST A GE, YOU'RE THE JOPPING MANBLOGPOST A GE TONIGHT
Bro will not blogpost anything for a while now. He kinda deserved the backlash.
>>565718742>a medium with minimal replayabilityWhy do you say that? If people can endlessly reread classic novels, I don't see why that would not also apply to VNs.
>>565724951People can and do dislike the game for a variety of good reasons; seeing a few screenshots and then trying to critic a 200 hour long game for them is just the petty, mean-spirited act of chuds online more interested in fighting tribal warfare than understanding the world. It would be like judging Muramasa based on the "sex with a spider" screenshot.>>565725046>>565725134Damn, is this how far zoomers have fallen? This is just how literary English reads. Check out William Gass.>I could not hold my father in much love, my mother either. Indeed, I learned to love far later, as it proved, than they had time for. So perished they without it. None of us grieves. I've played a few sly tricks upon insanity since then, and now life holds me as it once held them -- in a dry fist. Hearts held that way wad up eventually... trees did. Once -- once only -- my heart bust bloodily in that grip.
>>565725379Go back
eopfellas should be able to read this one
>>565725459>eops>reading somethinggeeeeeeeeeeeeg
>>565725379>Damn, is this how far zoomers have fallen? This is just how literary English reads. Check out William Gass.answer my question
>>565725459Go cry about it in your own general, off-topic nigger.
i've already done my work here
I accidentally bought Shiny Days. Does it have the same problems that School Days has in finagling it to work on PC, or is it fine?
Thread needs more Oppai and less EVN talk
>>565725379No one is critiquing the game. Just wondering about the nature of the game given all that dude was posting was about sex jokes.
>>565725703it's an english-translated game lil bro...
>>565719171Player should be called Otou-san next poll.
>>565724360Retard, if the VN is actually interesting, any normal person wouldn't break the immersion by taking screenshots and Ctrl+Alt-ing to post them on 4chan. I only bother to do it the very few times when it's literally a great scene that could potentially make other anons pick it up. Not like the other retards who are literally screensnapping every second line.
>>565725625Oh, I glossed over it because I didn't take it seriously. But it was August 02, 2022. >>565725746Well, this may sound defensive, but there is a clear purpose to "wondering about the nature of the game" in a derogatory tone when it comes to seeing a very tiny part of the game than saying "is it all bad like this?" Most would be be more reserved and understanding that they can't extrapolate so much from so little, or even try. It's obviously an indirect critique and attack to be like "Damn that's shit, is the whole game shit?" etc.
Why is someone trying to shill Lessons in Love so hard
>>565725379It takes talent to write like AI slop before AI slop was even invented.
>>565725972because it's the best vn of the 2020s
>>565725972So they get paid, duh!
>>565725972You have no idea what people could do for 5 bucks
>>565725898can you write a sub-800 character post explaining why somebody should waste 200 hours of his life on a patreon scam? i'm asking unironically
>>565724464Never said it was kamige you're confusing me with some other anon. So far it's been just a fun and slightly schizo game with a super based schizo MC. But I'm still on Chapter 1.
>>565725886He did take screenshots of what considers to be kami tier and posted here and they all read like cheap sex jokes
>>565725378Relative to vidya and to a larger extent, effort required to produce. Only a fraction of works are read more than once, and only a fraction of a fraction are 'endlessly reread'. This is compared to vidya where many games incentivise replayability, with some genres being entirely focused on it while trying to reuse resources maximally during development, like roguelikes or multiplayer games. To pump out more literary content requires constant active novel idea generation, whereas once you've established the base of a game, it is possible to add thousands of hours to it with minimal programming and art additions.
>>565726234you're just ruining its reputation with your blogposting
Make it a Redman thread.
Why is this nigga hating on LiL like he was paid for it?
>>565726224Bro has written multiple posts explaining that in this same thread
>>565726224I'm not so extreme. If you the vndb/itch.io screenshots look interesting, and the concept of the game sounds nice, then it may be beneficial to try it. And if one likes what they read (giving maybe 5 to 10 hours to warm up; the first beach trip is a good early point) then one will finish of their own volition, and won't consider it wasted. If they don't like it they drop it. There's no wasting life or forcing people to do what they don't want to here. Trying to summarize and market a game in 800 words is ridiculous compared to simply trying something out and either liking it or not liking it. >>565726234Ignore the weird people, it's just a big joke to them.
>>565724464It's unironically quof's fault for hyping it up like crazy and now anons will scrutinize it under a fucking microscope
>>565726539link me 1>>565726560>I'm not so extreme. If you the vndb/itch.io screenshots look interesting, and the concept of the game sounds nice, then it may be beneficial to try it. And if one likes what they read (giving maybe 5 to 10 hours to warm up; the first beach trip is a good early point) then one will finish of their own volition, and won't consider it wasted. If they don't like it they drop it. There's no wasting life or forcing people to do what they don't want to here.i don't care what the game is about, i care if it's worth spending 200 hours on> Trying to summarize and market a game in 800 words is ridiculous compared to simply trying something out and either liking it or not liking it.nobody is asking you to summarize it, i'm asking you to sell it
>>565726239Imagine complaining about sex jokes when half of the general worships Nukitashi and Hentai Prison, lol. Not that those are bad games btw.
>finally got the chance to piss>both her parents are sleepingTime to nukige. What I got is:-MGQ:- some very bad ones, am close to the acceptable ones...Trapge:- 6 h-scenes1 h-scene:- moeSHIT, VampiregeIt is on!
>>565726510I'm not sure, but umisis is one of those who has a particularly strong hatred for JOPs, so it's probably her
>>565726735>>both her parents are sleeping>heruhm, black bvll bro???
>>565726737It might be Aisir too, Aisir is quite obsessed with Quof.
>>565721153respond to my reply NOW!!
>mfw somebody asked me to read a patreon evn scam
>>565726735avatarfaggotbro...
Brutal mogging of Zoomcord by JOP chads.
>>565726672That's what I meant with "market." I'm not a salesperson trying to sell something to a dubious prospective buyer. I'm just someone who likes a game and says it's good. If it looks and sounds interesting you can try it out yourself and tell within a few hours if it will be worth spending 200 hours on. I don't know you, random stranger, well enough to know what would make you consider those hours worth it. A generic marketing pitch would be like: Narration written by a savant who combines poetry and prose in inventive ways such that it never gets dull to read! Excellent character voice such that each of the cast of 36 all feel distinct! Koikatsu's 3D makes it feel like the entire game is non-stop CG after CG, whereas other VNs only get occasional CGs to punctuate key moments! A thrilling mystery to the setting and main character which remains fascinating to unravel even after hundreds of hours! But who knows if you care. The devil is in the details, which you get by trying it out. >>565723572Serious = people who spend a lot of hours each day doing something and participating in online communities. People move on and take breaks more from VN than literally any medium I've seen. It matters insofar as it means that games have 1,000 kamigems that never let people get bored and that means VN gamers find it harder to pick up middling new releases that only stir up a tepid amount of hype.
this is floodtroon >>565726672>>565726894>>565727107
>>565714204Congrats, Litbus has been a big inspiration for newer nakige from Lucle. But do those add anything of their own or has the formula been set by Maeda-sensei once and for all?
All of you are bots except me, this is the only logical explanation.
>>565721671
>>565727356GEEEEEEEEG
>>565727181I thought that the Zoomcord was pro-JOP??? You guys need to decide in a cohesive narrative...
>>565727191since you self appointed yourself as its shill you have the responsibility to market it properly
>>565727356Zesty
>>565727191>That's what I meant with "market." I'm not a salesperson trying to sell something to a dubious prospective buyer.then don't be surprised nobody here is picking it up unironically> Narration written by a savant who combines poetry and prose in inventive ways such that it never gets dull to read! Excellent character voice such that each of the cast of 36 all feel distinct! Koikatsu's 3D makes it feel like the entire game is non-stop CG after CG, whereas other VNs only get occasional CGs to punctuate key moments! A thrilling mystery to the setting and main character which remains fascinating to unravel even after hundreds of hours! so... why should i read it? the only thing i'm getting is MORE CONTENT GOOD, everything else is empty buzzwords>The devil is in the details, which you get by trying it out.which you are supposed to hint to in you elevator pitch*>>565727209no shit GEG
>>565721734kek>>565727356too late, 'masacuck...
>>565727712>>565727712>>565727712
>>5657277511788troon alert
>>565727674>everything else is empty buzzwordsIf that comes off as buzzwords to you then you are definitely not someone I am trying to market to. Those things can't be taken for granted and make up a huge part of why the game is good (aka, solid fucking "visual" components and "novel" components in a fucking visual novel). Maybe you're the type to get hot and bothered by tantalizing twists or quirky setups but I don't care to try to find the right key to open your lock. It's good shit, take it or leave it.
>>565715791Aya is such a peak imouto and seiyyu, there just has to be reason she never made it into a true ymk route when clearly she should have, like the production was stopped for budget or time to market reasons or something.
>>565725746Holy autism. I literally said multiple times that I just recently started the game and I'm still in the middle of fucking Chapter One. So far it’s been SoL-shit, bonding with girls, schizo trips, sex jokes, and meta shit. I like sex jokes what's wrong with that? It’s like complaining about a dude who started reading Subahibi, and all he says is that he likes the yuri undertones of the first chapter, and then you dismiss the whole game as yuri shit. The game is fucking big its progression is pretty slow, but there have been non-sex-joke scenes that I like, but those would be spoilers, so I decided not to post them. Just now reached Rin's drama and it was great, but it would be an enormous spoiler to post it. You're just being autistic, anon.
>>565727356just in time
>>565727191>The devil is in the details, which you get by trying it out.You mean it's one of those that filters low iq anons?
>>565727891she has such great chemistry with her oniichan
>>565727878fine, i'll be straight with you: is it life-changing? on the scale from 1=slop to 10=kino
>>565727878That guy literally stalked all the cartel accounts (including yours), it's quite likely he'll end up reading it at some point.
>>565728230>stalked*fact-checked public accounts
who the fuck is floodtroon?
>>565728230Do you even know what stalking means?
>>565728653AIsir alter ego
What a fucking meltdown over some people talking about a visual novel.
>>565728663Yes, basically what floodtroon did to all the baby jops on xitter for months and what he also did to the whole cartel, including when he read everything quof had posted on his accounts simply because he got angry at not being the first to read a supposed "hidden gem"
>>565728148If we're being really literal about life-changing, and I will be just for fun, then I would say like a 7 or 8. It seems to inspire a lot of creativity in people; one person I know has started writing a novel after being inspired (they had tried and previously given up on a literary career a decade ago). Quite a few others have started getting into poetry and writing their own. One person I know literally stopped attending their college courses to spend all day reading LiL and now has basically given up on higher education. That will probably be a big impact on their life.Furthermore, it's not really the goal of the game, but I think LiL kind of corrupts people into liking younger girls. VNs have always featured highschool girls but I think a lot of people kind of coast by pretending mentally the girls are 18 or something since JP VNs hide ages. But LiL just says ages outright and highlights that aspect, so I think people get turned into lolicons over time while playing. It also is liable to lead to one joining a community to discuss the game and in that sense you can make new friends which will change your life while you wait for and read updates together. I made quite a few new friends just by spending the past few years dming them a lot while they caught up playing, and then while we waited for new updates. So all things considered I think it's a big enough and substantial enough game to have some life-altering impact. But in the sense that starting Genshin Impact cane change someone's life, not "you will read text so profound it alters your philosophy and makes you a different person." Unless it teaches you a lesson in love and makes one an idealistic believer in higher romance which is possible.
>>565728653floodtroon https://vndb.org/u246991>>565728763aisir https://vndb.org/u35602
>>565727947even while it's still getting warmed up, there's a ton of great scenes in that part of early chapter 1... you've got the rin arc, the trip with ami, the rooftop scene with ayane, maya being mysterious... all interspersed with comedy that's just engaging to read
>>565728986>floodtroon did to all the baby jops on xitter for monthsAll he did was post their tweets where they were seething about EOPs almost daily
>>565729426Yeah, pressing F5 every day to see what random people were posting on xitter is totally normal behavior
I love Karen
>>565729092>One person I know literally stopped attending their college courses to spend all day reading LiL and now has basically given up on higher education. That will probably be a big impact on their life.Sounds really retardedwhy would anyone do this over a fucking VN
>>565729092>people kind of coast by pretending mentally the girls are 18 or something since JP vn's hide agesHard disagree with this. Everyone acknowledges the hiding age gimmick or disclaimer as a means to placate certain entities and know full well what the devs intent is lol. Ain't nobody gonna sit here and pretend mashiro from Aokana, for example, is 18. And it's only eroge that hides the ages(for the most part) cause of fuckass sofurin.
>>565728986this never happened, i only fact-checked if he got the true end in ruin hunter raichi. i consneeded after i saw his xitter review so it's oki also appreciate him for dabbing on the cartel with his 6/10 on nonstories>>565729092thanks, this is what i was looking for. personally i ain't gonna touch it until it has an ending. from your description it sounds like it's one piece of vns basically
>>565729292>Muramasa>10/10GEG
>>565729546I feel like you were one of his baby jop "victims" from xitter. Are you still seething about EOPs?
We call it MUMBAImasa here
bad day to be aisir and flood
>>565729594uhm i thought jp versions of vns didn't have those disclaimers???
>>565729092>Furthermore, it's not really the goal of the game, but I think LiL kind of corrupts people into liking younger girls.Lessons in pedophilia...
>>565729864KEK
>>565729797>bad day to be aisirit can always get worsehttps://files.catbox.moe/f5gvtt.png
>>565729896that's it. the 3-words pitch. picked the fuck up
>>565729864Would
>>565729680Umisis...
>>565730003>i'm a limited jopmany have been saying this
>>565729092>Furthermore, it's not really the goal of the game, but I think LiL kind of corrupts people into liking younger girls. VNs have always featured highschool girls but I think a lot of people kind of coast by pretending mentally the girls are 18 or something since JP VNs hide ages. But LiL just says ages outright and highlights that aspect, so I think people get turned into lolicons over time while playing.Didn't you say the overall narrative tone is against fucking school kids in that VN?
>>565729292>Shironagasu Tou e no Kikan - 3/10 - The author seems more interested in throwing fanservice at the reader than writing a story.ZAMN that's a terrible take.
>>565727191>Serious = people who spend a lot of hours each day doing something and participating in online communitiesBut they're not doing the thing by your own admission. And you can participate in a community without actually engaging in the activity of said community. I do this with fighting game servers to socialize and not really play said games, and I would not consider myself very serious in those hobbies.>People move on and take breaks more from VN than literally any medium I've seen.>VN gamers find it harder to pick up middling new releases that only stir up a tepid amount of hype.Again, why is this an issue? If you pigeon hole yourself into niche enough activities, of course you're going to run out of content eventually. If you really like music made by X artist, you can still listen to other artists or genres while waiting for your favourite to write new albums.
>>565729660>personally i ain't gonna touch it until it has an endingUnironically it's like 5 years away
>>565730369unironically my life-changing fiction list will take me at least 5 years to complete
what's LiL
>>565730369How can you be sure about that? The writer will probably continue it until he dies as long as people are willing to support him.
>>565730454LiL bro...
>>565730016Battler...
>>565730249have to make you want to fuck school kids first to drive the message home
steins shit lost
>>565729660>i also appreciate him for dabbing on the cartel with his 6/10 on nonstoriesHAHHAHAHA you can't possibly be such a fucking hypocrite you fucking faggot
>>565730249I had a big spat about how retarded it is to say massive works of literature are "for" or "against" one line moral stances. But regardless of that, it is a harem game (so far; this is just the harem route) wherein a schoolteacher steadily romances and fucks 20+ schoolgirls. It has like hundreds of sex scenes with schoolgirls at this point alongside lengthy sections of narration about how hot they are and how pure their love is and so on. The narrative can be as pissy as it wants about how horrible preying on girls is, and it still mostly seems to make people like the content anyway. That's why I say "it's not really the goal of the game." The goal of the game is probably to present the stuff as horrible. But people get into it and like it anyway. Goes to show how many closet lolicons there are, perhaps. And this is all just my interpretation anyway. I'm seeing some new players of the game openly talk about how "I want to fuck X character" even though X character is literally listed as 14. Wild stuff for me.
>>565730534I'm just going based on what he's said before but it could always especially if he starts to take a big financial hit
>>565730454EVN about a teacher who grooms his students
>>565730534The author has a 10-year plan and he has mostly been sticking to it. When he suddenly announces a change in that plan is when I'd be worried. He also, believe it or not, is a massive yuri fan and fucking hates writing a male protagonist. He wants this shit done and over with so he can move onto his various planned yuri projects. Milking his male harem MC game even now that he has a house in Japan and like hundreds of thousands in savings is the last thing he wants to do.
>>565730618what's hypocritical about that?>>565730639sorry but i'm gonna stop you>That's why I say "it's not really the goal of the game." The goal of the game is probably to present the stuff as horrible. But people get into it and like it anyway. does the game promotes diddying or is against it? this is not up for interpretation, it's basic media literacy
>>565730639>I'm seeing some new players of the game openly talk about how "I want to fuck X character" even though X character is literally listed as 14.Aren't most people in your circle non-normalfag lolicons already?
>>565729092>>565729570If this community is indicative whatsoever as to what the average VN reader is like, I would not be surprised that some people actually found it life changing. As in, people here typically trend towards being autistic/degenerate, and do not have well lived experiences to draw from and grow naturally. Even if you could get a normalfag to get past the whole having sex with teenagers thing, I doubt most of the competently functioning ones would treat LiL as a gainful experience.
>>565730838>does the game promotes diddying or is against it? this is not up for interpretation, it's basic media literacyI'm not doing this shit again. Fuck you. Pick whichever you want, I don't care.
>>565730639>I'm seeing some new players of the game openly talk about how "I want to fuck X character" even though X character is literally listed as 14. Wild stuff for me.do you really have to virtue-signal on /vn/ of all places?
ohnononono floodbros... not like this...
bro forgot his media literacy ID
Honestly, I'm just happy to see some actual VN discussion.
>>565730931i never talked with you before. personally i don't care either way but you can't just say "it's up for interpretation", that only means that either you lack basic media literacy or you are being dishonest by trying to dodge the issue
>>565730991>"I want to fuck X character" even though X character is literally listed as 14. Wild stuff for meIt's been like this for anime and such for years what are you on about
>>565730838Last week he argued over this. What I got out of those posts was that he thinks the overall narrative can be interpreted as being against epsteinmoding but there are other aspects to it that kinda diddy>>565730991How is that virtue signaling?
>>565730991It's not virtue signalling. I mean it. I'm really surprised people are willing to say that stuff publicly in 2026 cancel culture security state. I would think normal non-weeb citizens would at this point be more reserved and afraid of openly declaring their lust for teen girls, regardless of any conceptions of morality. But I may be out of touch here.>>565731159I'll answer if you tell me whether Hemingway is pro or anti abortion based on his short story Hills Like White Elephants. It's short, so even if you haven't read it it should be fast.
I kind of understand now why all the JOPs went to Discord. Which is a shame, because it's been a while since we've had a decent discussion about anything here.
>>565731170>It's been like this for anime and such for yearsare you seriously appealing to xitter?
>>565730639what was your thought on cuties
>>565729319Yes, the problem is like another anon said: you need to post the whole event to show other people why the game is good. So, it's a choice between literally posting every single line of the events or just posting hilarious shit. Also, Maya is the best girl, love her to bits.
uminegro lost
>>565730926>Even if you could get a normalfag to get past the whole having sex with teenagers thing,How would you do it when it's the real meat of the content
>>565731359Huh? I don't have a problem with it at all I was saying this is nothing new and people have been doing it for years. How did you interpret that as me having a problem with it?
negromasa lost
We love underage girls here.
>>565731324the age of consent of first-world countries is 14 btw, not everybody is an amerimutt>I'll answer if you tell me whether Hemingway is pro or anti abortion based on his short story Hills Like White Elephants.i haven't read it and i want buy sota llms says that>Hemingway’s story leans anti-abortion emotionally and morally, because it portrays the abortion pressure as selfish, coercive, and spiritually damagingwhich doesn't look ambiguous to me
>>565731695Oh my god. Please don't reply to me again. Or try to talk to me again.
geeeeeeeeeeeeeg floodtroon in shambles
>>565731695>want buy*won't but I'M NOT INDIAN MY BRAIN IS FASTER THAT MY FINGERS THEY CAN'T KEEP UP REEEEEEEEEEE
>>565731159As a shill, he doesn't want to divide people over this. He wants everyone to play it.
>>565731828
>>565729819some do like clockup
>>565731797i accept your concession. guess reading tons of slop doesn't help developing critical thinking, who could have thought...
>>565731329Care to enlighten us why they did in your opinion? Because Discord after all is realtime chat with a really fast moving context window, and as such not really conducive for discussing literature or any topic in depth.
>>565731862Not so. It doesn't benefit me at all if people who were inevitably going to hate the game play it then hate it and started talking about how shit it is. I'd just like people would like it, but don't know about it or feel hesitant, to give it a shot and maybe end up having a good time. I told a few people I know not to bother playing since I know they wouldn't be able to get over the base concept of grooming highschoolers.
>flood actually uses the same tactic as aisir of relying on ai to discuss with someoneYou can't make this shit up
https://youtu.be/uGfbYQYRMHs?si=NuMl1yr_eu_fZnaZ
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA FUCKING FLOOD REALLY GOT RESENTFUL>>565731971
>>565731862>He wants everyone to play it.something made for everyone is something for no-one>>565732046i haven't read that short story, i just deboonked his claim that hemingway's stance was ambiguos and proved that he lacks media literacy there, so i assume he also lacks it with LiL (or he's just being dishonest for not wanting being labeled as pedo which is even worse)
>>565731695>the age of consent of first-world countries is 14You're leaving out the fact other laws raising it to more appropriate ages override that. Also Romeo and Juliet laws ensure adults can't prey on teenage girls.
>>565732243Hemingway made his second wife get an abortion.
>>565731695its only 14 in a handful, its mostly 16 around the world
Stop bullying /vn/s master MTLer
>>565732301read the second part of that sentence>>565732360...and that has nothing to do with the stance he was conveying with the short story
>>565732243you didn't even understand steins;gate geeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeg
>>565730793>a massive yuri fan and fucking hates writing a male protagonist.Fucking based.
>>565732301I don't think you know what age of consent means nor know what Romeo and Juliet laws do.
EVNs have better prose
Relevant:https://velocitypartners.com/blog/yes-ai-is-making-you-stupid/
>>565730793>a massive yuri fangiant red flag
>EVNsguy fucking harem of underage girls>JP VNsbeta faggot MC cannot even talk to the girl he likesKek
>>565732046It's funny how in Aisir's case it was also an attempt to argue with Quof.
>>565731324>Hemingway is pro or anti abortion based on his short story Hills Like White ElephantsNta but I don't think anyone itt is trying to guess the irl stance of the writers based on their works. It's about how the work itself comes across as.
>nyoooooooooooo le hecking ai response!!! i'm not talking to you anymoreeeeee!!!
>>565733017>It's about how the work itself comes across as.And that's subjective and can depend on the person. Like a duckrabbit which can be seen two ways. It limits the work with a subjective perspective to definitively say "it comes off like X to me, so it has that stance."
>>565733064cope. refusing to talk to someone isn't a fallacy.
i wonder if there's a correlation between having 100iq and being a luddite
>>565733064Ask your AI about LiL's stance on pedophilia
Damn, flood really felt hurt by being ignored by quof.
>>565733064*floods your throat with milk and yellow*
>>565733165>Like a duckrabbit which can be seen two ways.it's not a fucking duckrabbit, it's a diddyge where you have sex with kids for 200h+ STOP FUCKING COPING>>565733209it's beyond the knowledge cutoff, and it's probably too niche anyway so it will hallucinate shit>>565733184sure, that's called conceding, it happens once you run out of argument and use a fallacy as an excuse
>>565733195>You're a luddite for believing t's a bad thing to outsource your thinking to AI
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA FLOODTROON MASSIVE MELTY
>>565733394fuck off aisir, we love milk and yellow hereABDULL, ONEGAI!
>>565733165There's subjective aspect to it but some interpretations make sense than others and sometimes the narrative logic itself hint at it and communities form a consensus around this stuff and promote it.
Legendary thread and a rough day for AIbros
>>565733471keep going
>>565733650I'm okay with something like: "The interpretation of X makes more sense and the narrative logic hints in this way," but that's a far cry from reductively declaring a specific hardline stance. Abortion, for example, has both positive and negative elements, whereas "pro-abortion" limits the perception to positive and "anti-abortion" limits to negative. The whole point about writing a short story about abortion is to portray more broad, conflicted, and heavy feelings. "It has these positive elements, and these negatives, and it is melancholic to consider." Reducing that to just "it's anti-abortion" because of some impressions of it being slanted that way is shallow thinking and annoying.
floodsissy was completely relegated to irrelevance
I can't get the last post if you retards are still here!MOOOOOOOOOOOOOVE!
Bro already said it'll turn you into a lolicon. At this point it doesn't matter if the writer is for or against this shit.
>>565733962so there's no point in reading it if you are already a lolicon?
Based lolicons. We love grooming girls here.
>>565733962it's not about the writer, it's about what his work is trying to convey (which is a byproduct of author's feelings on the issue, but it doesn't have to be the same)
>>565733959you're not getting it regardless
>>565734241point is, you should be able to tell the difference between>pdf writer writing thing for pdfs>anti-pdf writing thing for pdfs>pdf writer writing thing for anti-pdfs>anti-pdf writing thing for anti-pdfsif you can't tell which on it is then it's simply a skill issue on your part
>>565733864I didn't read that short story but a writer can either present the positives or negatives or both or hide certain positives or negatives for manipulating their readers. It depends on what they're trying to achieve and what they're trying to achieve might not properly materialize in their work. Are you trying to say LiL presents a "broad, conflicted, and heavy feelings" associated with grooming kids and how it "has both positive and negative elements"?
floodsissy...>>565734506
>>565734606i'm sure all those diddy sex scenes are there to make you feel bad instead of cooming, yeah
>>565734606it is precisely because this idea is so unpalatable that it is worth expressing in such detail
>>565734774It can very contradictory, especially in otaku media.
>>565734303We'll see about THAT!Each thread I get closer and closer to victory and I have a good feeling about this one
>>565734606>Are you trying to say LiL presents a "broad, conflicted, and heavy feelings" associated with grooming kids and how it "has both positive and negative elements"?Yes. Because real life is more complex than moral stances, and people in real life may have had more complex personal experiences with complex feelings about them than people thinking about moral rules online without such personal experience may imagine.
Kys, zoomer nigger
>>565734940ignoring the fact that we are talking a 200h long diddy game made for patreon supporters, name 3
>>565735102Just take the L lilbro
>>565734942>I have a good feeling about this one>the one where people are actively still debating an e-celebmariposter your braincells...
Total EVNs victory
>>565735239>It can very contradictory, especially in otaku media.no i'll wait, name 3
>>5657354651. U2. R 3. Mom
>>565735545>ad hominemthat's the final piece of the puzzle, we can end this thread now
>>565735626geeeeeeeeeeg get fucked floodtroon
>>565735701maybe on planet your head
>>565735775>so it was a win in my headgeeeeeeeeeg get fucked floodtroon
LiL moggs every japshite
What is the next thread gonna be? More Kimika?
>>565735893>so it was a win in my headso on this planet? good.
>>565736071geeeeeeeeg you're my bitch flood
Read her VN
steins;gate won btw
Time to unleash my secret weapon and secure the last postThe person below me is GAY
NTR is good and more VNs should have it.
>>565705935Truth nuke.
>>565713497see >>565713604
and then I wonTHE END
ok
>>565738113>>565738030geg
The thread isn't even close to archiving yet you retarded retards. It still had 45 minutes left at least.
>>565738284this is the one then
I'll return in 44 minutes then to claim my victory
>>565738579who the fuck are (You)?
>>565738812Pooper of beds
Just let him win once so he stop.
>>565738812stray pink, needs to be put down unfortunately
let's go for 1k posts
Somebody left this at page 10... I should pick it up just in case.
Kimika won.
+1
A toast to me being the last post.
D-did I arrived too late to see the debate!?
Last post go go go
Doryaaaaaahhhhh
shshshshshshsh
Ahhhhhhhhh
>>565745212pubes
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mariaaaaaaaaaa
beautiful mariaaaaa
