Previous thread: >>565602445>WHAT IS HELLDIVERS 2?HELLDIVERS 2 is a 2024 crossplay, co-op, squad-based, PvE 3rd person shooter for PC, PS5 and XBox Series X/S where players fight against hordes of alien insects, robots and squids to Spread Democracy™. Players wage war on contested planets, each with a different biome, completing as many objectives as possible in a procedurally generated level while constrained by a time limit. With enough successful missions, a planet can be defended or liberated, and the player base must combine their efforts as much as possible to Liberate™ the galaxy.https://store.steampowered.com/app/553850/HELLDIVERS_2/https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers-2/https://www.xbox.com/en-us/games/store/helldivers-2/9mx9wn9dfpgt>WHAT ABOUT THE FIRST HELLDIVERS GAME?Released in 2015 for PC, PS3/4 and PS Vita, the original HELLDIVERS is a shared screen top-down shooter in the same setting. Its mechanics were based primarily on Arrowhead's first game, Magicka.https://store.steampowered.com/app/394510/HELLDIVERS_Dive_Harder_Edition/https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/helldivers/>LOBBY HOSTINGhttps://files.catbox.moe/83ixkr.png>MODDINGhttps://files.catbox.moe/c81ogo.png>INFORMATION RESOURCEShttps://helldivers.wiki.gg/https://helldiverscompanion.com/https://democracy-hub.nethttps://helldive.live>MAJOR NEWSMar 20 Uncover the Truth https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rn_uyAaJ3Z0Apr 28 Exo Experts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kK10IoDsiZ0Apr 28 Patch Notes 6.2.2 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7HthrWVH5U>LATEST PATCHESMar 25 1.006.101 https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/507356684541232939Apr 14 1.006.102 (PS5 Low Energy Mode and XBox fixes)Apr 28 1.006.202 https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/553850/view/541136853162525650
Locking all new weapons, grenades and armor sets behind a paywall is fineTaking the third armor set, associated cosmetics and the final gun/throwable from the warbond and selling them in the cash shop is fineLocking the vast majority of new stratagems behind a paywall is fineLocking new vehicles behind a paywall is fine>YOU ARE HERELocking advanced weapon customization behind a paywall is fineLocking new shipmodules behind a paywall is fineLocking vehicle customization behind a paywall is fineLocking new biomes and enemies behind timed paid tickets is fineLocking bugfixes behind a paywall is fineCharging 15 bucks a month as a subscription for being allowed to play the game is fine
Kill nerf trannies. Behead nerf trannies. Impale filthy nerf trannies with the One-True-Flag. Defecate on nerf trannies super destroyer floor. Report nerf trannies to Arrowhead for SC farming. Chop nerf trannies in half with the Hatchet. Crush nerf trannies with a hellpod. Roast nerf trannies with a Cremator. Eat nerf trannies. Dissect nerf trannies. Lobotomize nerf trannies with the Throwing Knives. Execute nerf trannies with the AT Emplacement Blow up nerf trannies with a direct Recoilless Rifle shot. Disintegrate nerf trannies with the Airbust Rocket Launcher. Atomize nerf trannies with the Ultimatum. Magdumping the Autocannon into a pack of nerf trannies in Flak mode. Zap nerf trannies to ash with the Arc thrower. Crack nerf trannies skulls with the Breaching Hammer. Blow up nerf trannies house with a Orbital Precision Strike. Gas nerf trannies with the Sterilizer. Pulverize nerf trannies with the HMG Emplacement. Shove a Thermite grenade down nerf trannies throat. Blow nerf trannies head off with the Senator. Obliterate nerf trannies with the Hellbomb Backpack. Force nerf trannies to walk onto a Anti-Personel mine. Run over nerf trannies with the Bastion Tank. Saw nerf trannies in half with the Defoliation Tool. Mass murder the entire group of nerf trannies with the Maxigun. Feed nerf trannies to the Hivelord.
>>565680976rip hitrel
Peace between Super Earth and the Automatons!
The goal of Super Earth is to achieve Furgatha, a perfect genetically modified society in which all women are hot and sexy anthros.
The Raped
>>565680818I don't care about any of that, just buff the weapons and nerf devastators again
This thing sucks shit
>>565681556>65 damage on a gun that loses 50% DPS beyond face rangeDrag is the gayest fucking mechanic imaginable.
This thing rocks
Imagine if the constitution could be clip fedThe revolver got a speedloader but I can't have clips?
>>565681892>light pentrash
>>565681556>helldivers can't hold more than 7 candy bar-sized SMG magazines>but can easily carry 8 shotgun drum magazinesmake it make sense
>>565681956aimlet
>>565681556>>565681637>has the same amount of drag factor as the knight even thought it has a longer barrel and higher muzzle velocityI don't like it...
I know vehicles have increased detection range and all but sometimes it feels like enemies specifically spawn around me when I'm in a mech. It's a lot more obvious around bots
>>565682383Vehicles just have absolutely fucked aggro. The most extreme example of malicious swedish code.
>>565681637Drag and Sway are competing for gayest mechanic ever imagined.
>>565681892it kinda destroys the Diligence
>>565682667Speaking of sway. Did they revert the changes to pistols again?
Bros? I'm starting to enjoy the squids...
>>565682667I need a marksman armor that reduces sway.
>>565682893I want to RAPE this cat
>>565682987Which ones?Post loadoutI fight them too but can never quite nail what I need for themI usually use the AC as a crutch or bring the dog
>>565682987based
>>565683173Spoilers next time for that
>>565681892yeah
>>565679167well, it's definitely wrong about the railgun reaching max damage at only 90% charge level. hulk heatsinks are only a 1-shot if the railgun exceeds a 2.375x damage multiplier, which only happens at an equivalent of 98% charge level. If the railgun did it's full 1500 normal and 562 durable damage at only 90% charge level then it should be able to one-shot hulk heatsinks without basically exploding the railgun. Even when redlining it as high as I dared and also using a mouse macro for precise timing I wasn't getting the one shot. Only when I exploded the railgun did it give me the one-shot on the heatsink.I was also able to kill two seperate bile titans, one in 4 shots and the other in 6, without trying to hit 90%+ charge levels so it was definitely ramping up its damage before hitting 90%. I think that guy misinterpreted what the wiki was saying, but also the wiki is just wrong about part of it.
>>565681892the bayonet is kinda weird. doesn't always land the hits right.
>>565683157Both strainsPunisher, giga nades, HMG, airstrike, hellbomb and HMGe for AppropriatorsBreaker S&P, incendiary impact, Bullet Storm, Breakthrough, Gas Strike and Napalm Eagle for MM
>>565681556gun itself is fine but mag count kills it
>>565682893Hitler nooooooooooooo
>I use shit weapon so I can feel specialWhy is everyone here like this?
>>565683917Nerf indians thinks by doing so will increase their "izzat"
Star Wars collab when?I want stormtrooper armor.
>>565683917I have absolutely no idea what you're talking about.
>>565683917It takes a high IQ to use bad weapons
>>565682383This is actually why mechs make bug and squid missions easier by proxy. Because you drag 90% of the enemy aggro towards you so everybody else gets to breathe.
>>565683917>whining about weaponsBack to July 2024 with you
>>565683839I realize i didn't specify PLASMA punisherThat shit rapes overseers in a single shot, it's not even funny
>>565683917You use shit weapons so you could feel special.I use shit weapons so I don't have to carry the rest of the team.
>everything that isn't the eruptor and the crossbow is shit
>>565684263What is high IQ about clicking on a red glowing head of a slow moving robot that couldn't land a shot on you if it's life depended on it?
>>565684816in the land of the blind, the one-eyed man is king
>>565684816
>>565684929profound
>>565683839Hmm never tried bulletstorm on votelessGas and napalm is smart too
>>565684161i love this little shit like you wouldn't believe
>>565684527Now this is peak telling on yourself.Double FreedomPurifierScorcherScytheSweeperTorcherTridentCensor (Bots)Plasma Accelerator (Bots)Pacifier (Squids)
>be xboxdiver>never touch settings really>finally try to adjust things>game looks and runs betterSave me the mockery..
>>565685857cute
>>565682830Respond.
>>565685857I can't believe xboxdivers are real
>>565686006
>>565686041i do my best
>>565686117Reformulate and re-center yourself.
>>565686041I'll do you one better. I play both PC and Xbox series S
>consoleniggersEmbarrassing...
The Emancipator exosuit if it were cool
>>565686657Gee bill, how come your DO lets you have two belts?
>>565686837My interpretation is the box on the leg acts like a harness to stop the back mounted ammo belt from getting tangled in the limbs. It's a fancy looking cable tie.
>>565686657>serrated foregrip
>>565686657You are asking for an avatar collab if you want that
>>565684161This is the best Anti tank in the game.
>>565687335It's a bayonet, anon. It's a photoshopped mish-mash of the Exosuit and the guns the mechs use from Avatar.
breakthrough is kinda fun cuz you can just bash charger's head in and mag dump on bile titan's headhow is the lumberer?
>>565687335Robots are immune to pokes
>>565687808Mobile cuck chair with a janky flamethrower
>>565687785Kill it with fire!
>>565687785Did she catch a baseball bat to the nose or what why is it dented lmao
>>565687808Lumberer is unrivalled in massive target killing, 25 rounds that 2/3 taps everything super large when striking the weakpoints. But the flamethrower is bugged to fuck right now. Not the worst bug, but the only effective way to use it is to torch the floor and backpedal.
>>565687984>but the only effective way to use it is to torch the floor and backpedal.that's how you use every single flamethrower
I still dont know what combo is better when I play supply medic.Stalwart + Erupotr is good but that leaves me defensless against heavies,EATs + LibCarb are good but I often find myself needing more than 1 EAT and too panicky to waste time calling in another EAT drop because if I need to use the EAT as a medic then it means nobody is actually supervising the enemy reinforcements and we have 3 bile titans alreadyLibPen + DeEscalator might work better, since supply pack would let me not worry about ammo, libpen can eventually kill any non-heavy enemy just shooting them in the mass center, and I heard that DeEscalator can kill any heavy that is not Factory Strider or Vox.Obviously cant use ultimatum which would make heavy issues non-existant, because muh stimgun
>>565688269Except Exosuits are immune to ground fire so it doesn't need to do that, hypothetically. The missing 10ft of no damage on the flamer's stream is what forces the behavior, not that the enemy is pushing you back. If the Lumberer's flamer worked properly, it would rack of horde kills unrivalled against any other Exosuit. It could just waddle up to a bug breach with the torch on full blast and effectively plug the hole.
What does it mean when people have numbers in their name?Are they chinks or snoys?
>>565687791>photoshoplol
>>565688597If you go to your recent players list you can see what hardware they're playing on.
>>565688597I think that some people who try to do e-sports seriously use names like this. You could see them up in ladder games. So those numbers means that this guy probably play dota/star craft/aoe2 etc.
Just experience getting dropped into the ocean on the initial drop. Truly a sweden moment of all time.
>>565688776Could also be people playing from an internet cafe/club. And this is the account number for the PC they are sitting on.
>>565688597A hash followed by four digits is Xbox. The platform copied the intelligent numerical separator that Discord used which allowed up to 9999 people to have the exact same username which was a statistical impossibility. Discord abandoned this for some fucking retarded reason by the way.Straight numbers after a username is 99% guaranteed to be Playstation.
Alright thanks guys.Just wanted to make sure they weren't chinks.
Would be really cool if some of the planets had some sort of alien wildlife roaming here and there.
>>565689429true
>>565689429they do, they're called terminids
Why do enemies keep popping out of existenceFucking sweden can you do ANYTHING right
>>565689750You also see them consistently popping in, especially when you're at extract on the edge of the map. At least they gave squids a little particle effect when they beam in so it feels natural but for some reason bots and bugs never got this. They could just copy paste the animation of the bugs burying out of the ground
>>565689429I like the pretty butterfly things on squid planets
>>565689750>enemies popping out of existence instead of popping inGOD I WISH
I can't stand harvesters. Most of the time they have negative accuracy and can't hit you no matter how hard they try. Then, randomly, they get perfect tracking and no amount of footwork will avoid the beam and you die in a nanosecond of contact. If they increased the accuracy but severely decreased the dps it would feel more fair and consistent.
Real men use Bastion tankSissies use mechssimple as
>>565690570I feel your frustration. It's aggravating as fuck that their behavior is 90% fixed as bumbling faggots and then suddenly they have perfect tracking your skull.
>>565690654Could you imagine if mechcels had to manually reload
>>565687172Which creates new problems. That box is joined to the leg. Also, why the fuck are all the rounds wadcutters?
The DSS perks seem really fucking useless most of the time why not have a vote to activate thing instead of it being automatic
>>565690785They do thoughever.Breakthrough has reloading.
https://x.com/i/status/2050953628370817466>Look how cool Oasis biomes are>Do everything in their power not to let us get to Big Rock
>>565690654>>565690785I use the FRV, what am I?
>>565691181My headcannon is that they haven't finished it and this is the equivelent of sending your teacher a corrupted file to buy yourself more time to finish your homework.
>>565688430Try using the Commando instead of EATs. You'll still have plenty of AT, but they are more forgiving if you wiff killing your target and you get to carry around more individual rockets.
>Phact Bay>both Intense Heat and Extreme ColdHuh
Why does the FRV HMG handle worse than the handheld version
>>565690785Ahem?
>>565691327Doubt it, the swedes are probably already on their 2 month government mandated vacation
>>565691330day and night
Where does brood commanders summoning warriors and guards anywhere like a necromancer fit into the realistic grunt fantasy milsim?
Only large enemies and ones with explosive/acidic attacks should be able to damage the tank.
>>565691392>Bots shoot everything BUT the shield
>>565691508That's pretty much how it is already.
The breakthrough is better for the sole reason it has more ammo than the lumberer. If they gave it more ammo it would be pretty good
>>565691508>waah waah waah I should be completely safe in my vehicle crutchesJust lower the difficulty.
>>565691710>the single scavenger ripping your tank apart while you parked it to do an objective
>>565691804>parking your tankRetard.
Did they nerf SC spawns?I haven't seen a single SC cashe in weeks
>>565691804Absolutely massive skill issue, why would you leave it unattended for that long?
>>565691360because it's fighting the rotation of the FRV as well as its own ergonomics. it's stabilized to keep pointing towards your mouse but it's not fast enough to keep up under erratic or excessive maneuvers
>>565686657titanfall if it was aislopped dogshitte
>>565692015It handles worse even while stationary. A crouched or prone diver has more accuracy
>>565691521>helldivers aim around dev shieldsfair>enemies aim around helldiver shieldsNOOOOOO THIS ISNT FAAAAAAAAAAIR
>>565691392What if we made the hull out of shields?
>>565692168that's not handling that's recoil
>>565692178Bots didn't pay for the game bro. They're not about to quit.
>>565692225Sure. Why does the mounted FRV HMG have worse recoil than the handheld version?
>>565688430Just bring Queefar or Epog.
>9pm in IndiaYup it's about that time for the thread to get worse.
>>565691508I'm glad you niggas dont balance the game
>>565692353nah they are laying on the family rug sweating off their foot-mashed dinner they ate off the floor
>>565692320the actual recoil stats are the same, not worse, it's just no first person ADS for -10% recoil and it's locked to standing recoil valuesyes yes but it's mounted to a solid frame so why wouldn't it have better recoil stats, you tell me
>>565681073>Removed the image in the background>Learned to not post it anymoreGood dog.
LOOOOOBBYYYYYYREEEEEEEEEEE
uh oh bugchaser melty
Is the patch drama still going or the dust is settled?
>>565692320>>565691360The real answer is that the handheld version was probably buffed sometime ago but the retards at AH forgot that the mounted HMG version exists.You can see this exact issue with the pissile forgetting to memorize your firing mode everytime you respawn.
>>565692815>Deleted alreadyBased janny is quick on the draw
>>565692914go back
>>565681556shitter>>565681892crutch
>Burn spore buggers>They don't get methed up>WinIt's just that easy
Every weapon in the game is a crutch for shitters. You should use buttstock slaps and pistol whipping only.
>>565693275>amendment >crutchYou're not even trying anymore!
>>565692856rare bug anim
Can't wait to get the Breakthrough cuz I like stomping and smashing shit even when out of ammo
>>565693465>best primary>not a crutch?
>>565693168Crying to the janny every time this image gets posted is not the own you think it is, sister.
She barely makes noise. Say something nice to her.
>>565693734(you)
>>565693660It's very fun, you can bust through colony walls like the fucking kool-aid man. Other mechs can also get through colony walls but they have to use the dumb stomp, the shield bash looks and feels way better.
>>565693792looks cool, that's about the best I can do.
>>565693792This gun made me learn to love light pen
>>565693660it's fucking great. Watch out for bile spewers though, those cocksuckers do a ton of damage and will take your arms off very quickly.
>>565693660>smashing shit even when out of ammoThat's what makes it incredibly versatile and the best mech. You can be out of ammo but you aren't out of options
>>565693840(You)
>>565694023>19 lives still remaining Easy game.
lobby in 5 minutes
Fear not, Super Earth citizens. The LAW is here to protect you.
>>565693383People would rather cry to AH to nerf them than use fire or gas in their loadout
>>565693887>>565694023>>565694070Can't wait to have fuuuunnnTried Lumberer and it ain't it for meShield bash city here I come
>>565693756Crying about the janny banning you is not the own you think it is, sister.Btw this makes day 3 the bugchaser has been banned in a row.
>>565694443Force of Law and their zap items
>>565693756What was the deleted image?
>>565694554>n-no uYour concession was accepted the moment you clicked "Report", sister. I didn't need another one.You can't meme. You will forever be The Raped.
>>565694838>You cant meme>Bugchaser memes: crying about the janny banning you over and over.Yeah, guess I cant relate.
YOU WAN PRAY GAME?HERE ROBBY FUK Usteam://joinlobby/553850/109775243856732925/76561198040375859
>>5656949503/4It is written - only Commander Anon can defeat democracy's enemies
>>565694950>its full
>>565694950FVLL>>565695546Shoulda made a lobby yourself buganon :^)
>>565694920The meme was you getting sandbagged in your shit update. Now the meme is you getting sandbagged in your shit update and being a bitch about it. Tough luck, rape victim.
What's the best front for the Breakthrough?
>>565695803Didnt bugchasers fail to get samples in oshaune and then cried so hard about the new enemy they had to be taken offline for 5 weeks to turbo nerf them and subjected every to 500 hellmire defenses?
It should be common knowledge by now that you should ignore shitty ragebaits made by Gucci Slippers
>>565695965Probably terminids.
>>565696009>everybody is this one guyPathetic cope.
>>565695995Yeah notice how nobody ever clicks "report" when people make fun of that. Maybe you should take notes, rape victim.
>nigger slippers now pretending to be someone else>um...saar i not know what you talking about saaar!okay bro
>>565692914>Disinformation>Literally doing it in the video
>>565696243Bugchasers sure did click "report" when the new bugs came out lmao
>>565696297Take your meds.
Did they stealth patch enemies with large mass physics to try to home in on the player when they die? There's been a lot more coincidences lately but the most recent mission I played was pretty obvious something fucked up was going on. over four of my deaths in a single op was due to large enemies dying and just homing in on me like a heat seeking missile, some actually gaining velocity and flying upwards to slam into me.This one was one of the more egregious examples.
Remember when bot niggers cried so hard Arrowhead had to nerf the flame shotgun devastators? Remember when bot niggers cried so hard Arrowhead had to nerf the rocket striders? Remember when bot niggers cried so hard Arrowhead had to nerf the war strider? Remember when bot niggers cried so hard Arrowhead had to nerf Vox Engine spawn rate?
>>565696107nta but do bugs still violate mechs from afar?i crab walk side to side to avoid lasers but those damn tower cannons can spot me a mile away
>>565696695Don't forget they had to nerf factories, gunships and especially rocket devs too! Nothing more pathetic than a "bot diver".
>>565696816>bugsBots*Fuck
>>565696695>>565696858no actual bot diver ever complained about those things except maybe the flame shotgunner it was always MO tourists having to fight a real faction for the first time ever.
/hdg/ tranny modus operandi
>>565696594Works the same as it always has.
If something cant be easily killed even by a highly skilled player with base equipment (non premium currency) then it is a poorly designed enemy.
>patch out sc injector >leave asset injectorIs it really too much for an automatic ban option for chinese names joining MY lobby?
>>565696816Cannons still seems to fuck me up the same.Lumberer is pretty good at destroying them, and so is the spear now that you have 1 more rocket.
Are the chink SC cheat servers down? I want to buy more goybonds
>>565697474are there any such enemies in arrowhead's helldivers 2?
What was the link for the korean arrows?
>review bombing already stopped>next week steam front page will be mostly positive againname a more pathetic community then hellsissies 2 sloppers LMAO
>>565696594You vill shut up and basedface at ze reddit moments we put hours to code those instead of doing anything to improve player experience
>>565698891Slay the spire 2 chinks?
>>565698891Darktiders
>>565698891Why do you careI've never thought about this
>>565698891>review bombing already stoppedHave the gamer dads and trannies lost their power?
Did they break Alpha Commanders again? They're running away from me even when I'm host
>>565698769found it. navigating that website is terrible.
>>565698891You know, anon. They new gaming industry have a tendency of selling shitty games like is the norm now, so people nowdays see shit games as normal games. And if a game is normal is good but today standards, this is what's happening with HD. HD is a niche game but the whole development team and they way they act is retarded. So people see this game as a gift from God. Like remove the retarded SC farming from the game and see how many will continue playing the game, not even the devs play their game. They just outsource most of the work to other companies, act smug and takes 1 week to change some number on the code for a hotfix
>>565698684Vox engine when the game still spawned them in packs of 8's
>>565699559Stop playing Helldivers 2 and stop posting here then.
>>565696594I've noticed this too. There's been a lot more exaggerated ragdoll of bile titans and it almost seems as though the ragdoll targets players. Chargers and impliers don't seems to fly as much but once dead on the ground they start hump crawling somewhere slowly. Sweden probably thought they'd do this for funzies (instead of working on real issues) OR their spaghetti code spazzed out when they changed something elsewhere totally unrelated. Either way I shouldn't smoke a BT and somehow it flies across the map to land on me, opposite the momentum from where the shot came.
I like the change that they've made so that basically anything can destroy Lightning Spires now.
>>565699928Thank goodness, can't have anything be an actual tough threat.
Is the ballistic shield with SMG on bots still fun?
>>565700059A little obstacle doesnt need a full AT round to take care ofIts a waste of resources I dont mind it can one shot divers but it shouldve be a miserable waste of ammo
>>565699740>Like the game>I want the game to be more enjoyable and not a buggy mess after every update>Dislike the devs and their retarded decisions >Just stop playing lmaoBeing critical and disliking the game are different things. I can still play and hate the devs, but I'm not gonna clap every time they drop a update that breaks 10 more things
>>565700059shitskin slippers post
>>565700317>>565700364You just want the game to be easy, casual slop. Just admit it. Just be honest.
>>565700185SMGs get ridiculous damage dropoff at distance now
>game no longer remembers your weapon setting>stim delay bug still in the gameI'm tired, boss.
>>565700317>full ATNice hyperbole, dumbass.You could kill it with anything that had Demo 30 or drop a pod on it.
>>565700545I just dont want a silly auto killer to be invincible to most weapons you tard Go be argumentative elsewhere
>>565700185SMGs lose 50% of their listed damage after 25-30 meters now. So no, they're unusable garbage because swiggers are extremely spiteful faggots that chose to neuter an entire weapon class instead of just nerfing the reprimand.
>>565700916Try going prone you stupid little retard.
>>565700545You're a retard baiting you (You)s but I will reply with a sincere response. The spires were bad game design as they were a hard gear check. You needed some kind of explosive demo weapon to deal with them. This kind of thing limits player agency in making loadouts and creates a forced meta. Players like choice and being able to experiment. The spires made it so you always had to dedicate a slot for explosives.
>>565700978Try using SMGs at close range, retard.
stop replying to the fucking portuguese missing link jesus christ
>>565701020Mostly its to save other divers from falling for it lmao
I would've been happy enough if they had just limited the lightning spires to heavy or medium pen weapons so shit like the AMR could blow them up, but peashooters couldn't. But it is what it is.
>>565700978Any graphs or hardmined data for that shit? I keep seeing SMGs being terrible at ranges here but I've yet to see any actual data.They all seem to have 4 times more drag (120% vs 30%) compared to rifles but how does that reflect on damage?
>>565701371Theyre skinny little metal thingsIdk why they were so strong from a visual standpoint
>>565701472diversdex manual has guesstimates and approximates based on actual testingno one knows the exact drag formula but smg lose around 66% of their damage at 100m
>>565699928This was basically the only gear check the illuminate had
Casuals killed this game.
>>565701801Typical swigger data obfuscation shit.
>>565700545Nah, I want the game to be a horde shooter alongside them adding some kind of enemy that punishes players for playing alone instead of sticking together. Almost every kind of coop game have this, HD2 is just 4 players doing their thing most of the time.Not to mention the need to fix the clipping issues with some enemies when they die, is what I hate the most about the game enemies clipping through walls and their bodies not being where their hitboxes where supposed to be when they die.The other thing that I don't like is how they say that they are gonna A and they do B, just say that you wanna nerf whatever weapon you want and done. Don't say that we are not gonna nerf x item. There are 10 difficulties for a reason after all if you want your game to be easy.The thing about OP weapon from their cover is a meme for me because I just use whatever I like to in every game. In HD2 case is the FRV and One Two most of the time TLDR: I just want a fun coop game, with an enemy that punishes people for going solo alongside not being lied to before and after every update
>>565696594i've certainly noticed impalers spazzing out and i've also noticed that the invisible corpse issue has become so much worse.
>>565701830>game for funny team bro moments and chaos>not for casualscmonit was always inevitable
>>565701985>TLDR: I just want a fun coop game, with an enemy that punishes people for going solo alongside not being lied to before and after every updateThat is literally not allowed. Such an enemy would cause the community to review bomb the game and send death threats to AH. Have you learned nothing in all this time?
>realize a successful extraction with 10With ten WHAT!!!!!!!!!!
>>565702296common or rare samplesjust go berry picking
>>56570229610 no buenos ;(
>>565702296Just pick 10 of everything, retard
>>565700978>nerfing the reprimandIt's not a good enough gun to get nerfs
>>565702590It's dogshit now, but back then it was.
>>565694950thanks for the game, GG's had fun
>/hdg/ was so butthurt from these days that they decided to side with reddit. Embarrassing.
>>565699928I thought they needed to lower the demo force but didn't really need the health addition
>>565702228Sadly. I know that adding that type of enemy could be impossible because of the backlash even if they just lock that enemy to difficulty 9-10. But I think it would be a great addition for those players that want something new, they will have to adapt if they still want to going solo or be forced to teamwork if they lack the skill for it. For example L4D has several of those enemies and that doesn't stop players from rushing and going solo. So just do like L4D add a sound when the enemy spawns before it kidnaps the helldiver and sends him to the sex dungeon.
>>565702851the last time the game was fun, the old autocannon days
>>565704220Back when the AC was the balance target instead of infinite powercreep
>>565704182I think another problem with L4D-like disablers (besides potential community backlash) is that in gameplay terms, Helldivers are much squishier than the L4D survivors, and Helldivers don't have a clear downed state. Unless the disablers are just supposed to hunt down and execute lone divers instead of leaving them in a downed state.
>Level 150 Rookie>kept calling napalm barrages on alliesI hope they give us the ability to automatically block players based on the title they are using.
ragdoll is the disabled state of helldivers
>>565702697Reprimand was good, but it has never been great.
>>565705590haha what if it just injected some kind of poison that kept you in a very long ragdoll/immobile state (and also increased your tits and bulge size)could be like a special stalker-type haha
>>565702697it has some of the highest dps in the game if you use it in the intended range, and 4 bullets to kill an alpha commander is pretty damn good for a full auto weapon
>>565702048The more i play the more i realize that all the weapons are good. You just have to bring them against the correct enemies.
>>565702076we were close, so very close to greatness, the swiggers had it, they had the vision. And then they released the game and started to listen to reddit
>>565705590Just reduce the bleeding damage and put them in a bleeding state alongside making the player stuck in place instead of killing them straight away. But I can already see AH adding some kind of bug where you are bleeding all the time or you get stuck even if the special gets killed. I would say that maybe they could add some kind of animation for it but they are too lazy for it, so I just went for the easy way of bleeding slowly and being stuck .
>>565702851>side with reddit4chins has just been reddit where you can say nigger and trannie since 2016 at least.
>>565706285most shotguns and half of the SMGs say hi
>>565706285The gear that actually kills enemies still vastly outperforms meme status effect guns.
>>565705760I do actually agree with you.>>565705968You might be shitposting but I also don't think that's the worst idea (minus the tit and dick alterations) for a disabler ability. >wander off solo>get stung by something called a Venom Stalker or Stinger Shrieker>bot version is maybe a hunter bot that sticks divers with their version of an urchin>squid version just using psy powers to melt your brain a little>stung/stunned/psyoped diver goes limp, requires a stim from a teammate to be revived
>>565707069And why do you think that is?hint: the stun grenade used to be S tier
>>565707075I can settle for just the ass expanding.But that aside the game really needs a "give up"/"suicide" option.
>>565691480The lonely diver seems to lose his EAT at night
>>565707351>"give up"/"suicide" optionYou can abandon a mission and return to the Super Destroyer at any time. Why would you want to suicide in a mission?
>>565707302The stun grenade was S tier because it came out before the thermite.
>>565702296I think it’s green samples but I am not getting the daily personal order wtfI need my medals for my goybond
>>565707075Actually, that sounds better. It will encourage people to play as a team instead of soloing the map. I can already see the randoms running back to the team with the disablers chasing them
>>565707705>stuck in bug hole>stuck in megacity building>stuck under the floor somehowMany reasons
>>565707302I was thinking about this lately, like damn we really used to all be throwing stun grenades at hulks non-stop. And bile titans, kek. The bile titans is probably the reason orbital ems sucks now.
>>565707075>(minus the tit and dick alterations)what's the point then?
>>565707705Because of scenes like these happening all over the galaxy right now.You could be next.>inb4 but you can just blow yourself upI've been in these situations a lot with no means to kys.
Mechs were happily confirmed!But what's NEXT???
>>565708421The FRV warbond is my bet
>>565708421carrrr
>>565707841>randoms running back to the team with the disablers chasing themAnd if the would-be solo runners do get got, either there are other enemies around that tear them to pieces right away (and are then subsequently reinforced near the team. Or there aren't any spawns because the patrols are all spawning on the rest of the team and they just have to lay limp in a field somewhere and contemplate their choices.The biggest downside of this is how diver ragdoll states are desynced between clients and host. So one diver could see another get disabled, run over to help his buddy, and then once the actual location of the diver that's ragdolled is updated correctly he's in a completely different location.
>>565708421Lost planet crossover
>>565707705Play the game
>>565708421I want to believe
>>565707893>>565707302maybe because they nerfed the shit out of it, and that the game has changed ever since? Singular hulks and bile titans were dangerous back then. They're medium sized enemies now.
Remember when it took two of these to remove a Chargers leg armor?
>>565707883>>565708070That's fair, I hadn't considered niche cases. At that point though, I'd ask a teammate to do me in.
I'm drunk and I need a lobby bros
>>565708421vroom vroom
>>565708837>maybe because they nerfed the shit out of itNo they didn't.>and that the game has changed ever since?Yes that's my point, status effects are a meme because you just kill everything instantly now
>solofag fucks off to the other side of the map>starts calling for someone to open a bunker with him>none of us are close and none us want to run to him>solofags keeps calling for his bunker>host kicks himactual based rando host for once
>>565708559>The biggest downside of this is how diver ragdoll states are desynced between clients and hostTrue, I didn't take that into consideration. That's why, one can always dream about having some kind of disabler on helldivers even if is an impossible dream.
>>565708928What exactly did these do? It had 100 explosive damage at the end, but what was the burn damage?
>>565709227>No they didn't.t. didn't play the game
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775243872478545/76561197994967934Time to squash some bugs
>>565708928I remember they were bugged to shit and were only useful for trolling in the orbital railcannon mission
>>565709339If you're talking about bile titans being immune to stun, it was patched like a week after stun grenades came out and they remained S tier long after that
>>565709258that was it lolwhen it was released it literally didn't do anything.
>>565709373>Instantly crashed on the first joinThanks sweden, lets try that again
I'm trying the spear again and it feels like it struggles to lock onto bot fabs.
>>565709759any moment now
>>565681964You see, the reason this makes no sense to you is because, in real life, you wouldn't need to hold onto 8 shotgun drum magazines because you'd have killed literally everything in a 50 mile radius of yourself with just 1 or 2 shotgun drum mags. But videogame shotguns are so retardedly weak that they need to give you more ammo just to be able to kill 5 scavengers.
Helldivers deserves a stage play musical
>>565709778It's been bugged since the patch that disabled the targeting on bunker turrets
WHERE MY LOBYBY
>>565710346That is a female (XX) btw. The hips and the underside of her feet give it away. You and I may masturbate in peace.
>>565710520you're supposed to jack off to that?
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775243874174672/76561197994967934ok lets try that again, 2/4
>>565709707It still baffles me the state of them on release. Was it supposed to have the effect that acid rain has now and it just didn't work? There was no information and they (swedes) never said anything as far as I know.
who cares what gender it is, if it's beautiful, you're a fucking retard, just mastirburi and have fun
>>565710346name?
>>565710520What am I supposed to do with this, inside a female?
>furshitOh, jannies!
Breakthrough has some tech behind it
>>565710748ragebait post
>>565709258I think the burn damage was 50/sec, so the majority of the damage actually came from the burn. The burn also didn't stack, so you had to use them one after another on the same enemyIt took 3 or all 4 to kill a charger iirc, so if you wanted one dead in a hot minute or two, thermites were for youYeah there's a reason nobody use them before the 60 day patch. Hard to believe for newfags, but democractic detonation was considered pretty mediocre at launch. 3 armor sets with perks we already had, the adjudicator and crossbow were trash at release, the grenade pistol was good for utility and the Eruptor was great until Alexus swiftly nerfed it to death
>>565710839You broke through the matrix
>>565710821Youre a pig
>>565710839jetpack mech lookin good
>>565710520>can't hula hoopThat's a man (XY).
>>565710910>I think the burn damage was 50/secYeah, but because of the DoT bug none of that burn damage happened unless you were the host that threw the Thermite. So if you were a guest, it was just a 100 damage explosion with a really long delay. Comically bad developers.
>>565710910>democractic detonation was considered pretty mediocre at launchNo it wasn't, it was the third premium warbond out and the other two warbonds weren't any better.All the new bug hole closing weapons had everyone go crazy for it.
>chink joins>suddenly 1000 ping>stuck in the infinite loading screen and had to restart the gameKILL ALL FUCKING CHINK INSECTS NOW
>>565711608Thank the sw*dish bastards for P2P shit.
>>565710712as with the majority of things they release, they never really playtested them and they don't have the slightest clue on the context of what it'll be used for, so it never hit them that the grenade needs to be able to damage the armor of the thing it sticks to. AFAIK the issue was that it only did like 100 damage and the AP level was too low so it couldn't actually damage armor.
>>565708421FRV with flamethrower so you can easily team kill your squad if you aim slightly too low
Ahh, I still remember when people told me to buy Cutting Edge, because the sickle was the best AR and stun nades were the meta pick
>>565711948it was a better time
>>565711863In my mind the thermite is still their most incompetent moment.
>>565711974lel fuck no it wasn't, most gear sucked ass, primaries that were good were quickly nerfed and the technical state was somehow even worse than todaythe stun nade was meta simply because all our gears sucked so hard that stunning heavies was the best option. fucking OPS + stun nade was the standard way to kill one charger out of the ten shat out by every breach.
>>565712467it was because hdg had more fun people around
>>565712384For me it'll always be Freedom's Flame, where they wrecked flamethrower weapons 2 days before it went live. pretty sure that was the straw that broke the camel's back and sent us down the le buffdivers road
>add videos to queue to watch at once while doing something else>suddenly jeet accent shell shocks meAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
>>565713953>iraqi>jeet
>>565710346The female bwc fiend
>>565714038desu the iraqis invaded and conquered india and are the major contributors to the modern indian state after they rejected all british advancementsto call iraqis proto-jeets is historically correct
>>565714038what's the difference? no really it's all 3rd world shitholes anyways.
>>565686452You consoomed it for the pre order armor huh
The Breakthrough is dog shitThe Lumberer is good but it's flamethrower are bugged
but it is flamethrower are bugged saaar
sirs the flamethrower are bloody bugged
>5 Wilburs juiced up on crack dust killed me by all slapping me on the head as I dived backwards (they were all running behind me to block me from running away).Holy shit. This is the one time Wilburs actually beat my shit in. Feels like the collective revenge rage of a shitter mob over the span of two years.
>no lobbyfine ill make my own lobby with blackjack and c-01 permitssteam://joinlobby/553850/109775243878681362/76561198015607024
>>565715059>>565715110holy brown ESL
>>565715110>bloodyBLOODY BASTARD U BITCH MOTHER BLOODY FUCK U
i love you feriens
>cloudflare / 4chan shitting the bed againsuch is life.
>>565693792I prefer the diligence
>>565715246full and orgy started
>>565715246>Goverment Super Earth>logo is centered on middle american shitholesWhat is this hellish alternate universe?
>>565716165gotta repopulate with latino baddies
>>565715168>WilbursThe fuck are they?
>>565716356It's what that doughboy goytuber calls scavengers.
>>565716165Erm the Super Earth logo is actually centered on Stockholm, Sweden.>>565716324The latinx will have become 100% white by the time the age of super earth begins
>>565716582Holy media illiteracy
>>565715715>same DMG but makes noise>mag is less than Censor's unlockable one>Censor has better recoil>Censor has better scope selection??
>>565717368DID IT EVER OCCUR TO YOU THAT MAYBE HE JUST FUCKING PREFERES THE DILLI VIBES AND WANTS TO HAVE HIS OWN FUN WITHOUT SOME NUMBER CRUNCHING FAGGOT SHITTING ACKSHUALLIES OUT OF HIS MOUTH AT MACH DIARRHEA SPEEDS????
>>565716824No u
>>565717737wow optimiyation ruined videogames
I saw people on twitter saying unironically "you're nerfing the weapons too much, it was better at launch"
>>565717737damn someone's trannymad lmaoforgot to dilate today?>>5657152463/4 you fucking worthless scum subhuman niggersjoin up or else
>>565715560Guess they're getting sick of Titanbowling
>>565718352as long as they start buffing idgaf
>>565717737I believe the projectile speed and trajectory of diligence bullets are better than the justice's. i could be wrong but that's how it feels in game
D10probably predssteam://joinlobby/553850/109775243882349215/76561197999417031
>>565718675>justice'sidk, libpen bullets are slightly slower
>>5657187312/4
>>565718352>Finally the normies are outraged at AH>They're all mad about retarded shit that doesn't actually effect the game that muchIt's all so tiresome
>>5657187313/4
>>565718731Already full?
>>565718912>jewtuber starts complaining about something>"yeah! he's right, yet i've never said or noticed it until he said it"
>>5657187314/4
>>565718352They should go back to version 1 for a month so everyone can get their heads on straight.
>>565711948>>565711974Warbounds of early days used to have 3 primaries, 1 secondary, 1 grenade and 3 armors btw
>>565719780>warbounds
>>565716165The US clearly won the race for global domination and made the liberal dystopia
>>565719780They "improved" it after the terrible release of Polar Patriots
>>565720269It was supposed to be "prioritizing quality over quantity"Then we got the Sterilizer not long after.
>>565681037No peace >:( Dead children.
>light speed armor>Shield mech>Warp pack >Bullet storm + EATYou actually cannot die on bugs. Ain't no way the swedes aren't nerfing the shit out of this
>>565720846They also promised us not to shovel out a warbond every month.
GG izzat squad
>>565721320fun times
>>565685857bro perfomance mode on Series S looks like sun dried shit, but at least it gets buttery smoove 60fps.also no Personal Order today?
>>565721056For me, it's:>heavy gas armour>sterilizer>gun dog>gas mines>torcher, ulti, gigga nades>railcannon because why the hell notThe only way you're dying with this set up is if you run out of ammo, because otherwise you are constantly CC'ing everything, laying out passive DPS from gun dog, and you can stand in gas clouds and avoid all damage from bugs while in it, with heavies handled by your primary, secondary, and nades.
I'd wait a couple more updates but at this point my copium is running dry. Arrowhead is repeatedly choosing to prioritize nothing the consoymers want- it's just either jeetery or niggardry or faggotry or kikery. Everyone loses.
>>565710671GGS, bugs are fun [citation needed]do not put your car into oven
Good morning when's big rock
>>565721225Right, I think they were only able to do that for the one 'bond and went right back to 1 a month immediately after.
>>565721641>>heavy gas armourHow is that with the new gas slow?
>>565722203Won't advanced filtration negate the effect or is it just the damage
>>565711838Peer-to-Peer is fineIt means this game won't be completely useless when it goes EOS
>>565722330Just damage, the slow is treated as a separate effect currently or something.
>>565722203You get slowed, but you don't really care because you're already a slow fuck anyways and everything else that is in the cloud is getting confused while you have full control. Things get too close you just hit them with a melee attack to make them fuck off.
>>565722330I've definitely felt it when I've gone brapping in light gas armor.I think it may be reduced just like the damage but I haven't tested it.
>>565722130Like 3 weeks from now when the next bug MO starts
>>565722003>hmm using a flamethrower from a moving car what could go wrong Mistakes were made
>>565722130It's a desert oasis biome, so it's clearly summer coded. So expect to see it in about 2 months time after we set up termicide tower blockades.
>>565722515Lame and gay and retarded. They ought to fix this at some point
>>565722482>It means this game won't be completely useless when it goes EOSI'm sure the swedes are malicious enough to put out an EOS update that actually just deletes the game.
>>565722774Ross save us
>>565722482>>565722774You cant play the game if you cant connect to their servers to play their shitty GW
God I need them to add Tank patterns already the Mobile White from this warbond is so fuckin' sleek
>>565722774>>565722936>>565723013>scared about "whatifs"schizos
>>565722774>>565723013You can roll back whatever shitty update swiggers put out with thishttps://github.com/leem919/timedivers-managerAnd there are tools to run it privately too.https://gitlab.com/dark-fluid-project/darkfluid-launcherhttps://gitlab.com/dark-fluid-project/darkfluid-api
>>565723090you think they will add a new item "tank pattern" to the 10 already released oneskek
>>565723147Sorry to break it to you, but that's called being white.
>>565723147
>>565723619That's what they did with the FRV when it came without any of the old ones so yeah
>>565723147I stated a simple fact why the fuck did you ping me you retard
Are people really looking forward to another intense heat biome?
>>565692957they fucked up the "remember weapon settings" last patch
lobby...
>>565724108i aint got no lobby
>>565724037>climb fucked>fire mode fucked
>>565724037>>565724223Please convince me Arrowhead doesn't have an actual saboteur in their midst.
>>565723845I'll take anything over this jarring as fuck park biome that is like Window's XP's default wallpaper while there's a war going on. The trees don't even catch on fire.
>>565724319Nah, I'm 100% sure that the "rogue devs" comment was to make people think>"omg of course arrowhead didn't mean to make these terrible changes, it was that rogue dev!"
>>565724037If theres any anon whos into professional programming, how much of the shit like this arrowheads fault or the engines?
>>565724319the only way out of this mess (and shit software in general) is the EU backing refund/compensation laws when a dogshit company breaks a product afterwards.I bought a game on Steam, this is tied to expectations.I didnt buy early acess where these refund laws apply until v1.0 is launched.In an unfortunate way our world leading consoomer protection laws dont yet oversee digital products
>>565724801its entierly their fault
>Bile Spewer accuracy is suddenly spot on>Charger makes an extremely unnatural turn to kill me>Check the time>7 minutes just passedI'm starting to believe that schizo
steam://steam://joinlobby/553850/109775243888766725/76561197994967934Ok time to kill bots
shant be joining after seeing that disgusting image
>>565725532bot women owe me SEX
>>565715381Dragon Ball threads be like
>>565684161It's explosion radius should match the radius of the visible explosion. It's such a joke that it's only ~3m.
>jump pack mech>Chainsaw mech>Heavy grenade mech>Mech that can run>Laser + Quasar mech>Sword(or hammer) + shield mechI need em
>>565725532Full already? FUCK
>>565718404Oh yeah?
No tranime allowed in this thread
>>565726404I get called a schizo for pointing out how bile titans are programmed to leap into you after death
>>565726552This, we only support BASED western art
>>565726594I've definitely noticing this HARD lately. Once you start noticing, you understand that half the bullshit death that happens to you are literally programmed to happen. I wonder what the game would look like without that. I bet you could chain flawless missions without breaking a sweat.
>>565726594
>>565726594I feel like the Spear, for some reason, triggers these situations especially often
Come touch grass with me, anons.steam://joinlobby/553850/109775243889369173/76561198055931055
>>565727046I think anything explosive that has enough "stagger force" then the death animation will redirect it towards the player who got the last hit physics be damned
>>565684161This is one of the best AT weapons in the game
>>565726594Take your meds schizo.
>>565726594you're imagining things
>>565726840This is a recent thing though. I remember this barely happen back in the day
>>565727082Come on boys i promise we'll have fun
>>565727543>I remember this barely happen back in the daymaybe not with bile titans but to my knowledge gunships and shrikers were the first foes where this was implemented
>>565727543Nah it happened since the very first days. Perhaps it has become more blatant tho.
>>565727730Shriekers didn't home in on you after death, they just have an attack that already does it and if you kill them while they're doing it they still crash into you.
>>5657270823/4
>>565699928it's good which means they'll break it next patch same with fleshmobs fix
>>565727295Ok, that one is fucking egregious. Fucking Sven absolutely did something to them on purpose.
>>565727915Didn't that used to be able to kill the player when they first got added?
I have exo experts, entrenched division, siege breakers, redacted regiment, borderline justice, urban legends, servants of freedom, democratic demolition, dust devils, control group and just got python commandos. What next? Should I get force of law?
>>565728072Don't forget it will inexplicably have double the range and can go through walls
Futa leandivers put into humiliating Automaton breeding machines where their cocks are sucked on by tubes connected to their pussies and end up inseminating themselves with every humiliating circular jizz blast.
>>565728117It used to kill fucking everything, I've seen videos of shrieker corpses killing bile titans.
>>5657270823/4 come on fuckers
>>565728265get help
>>565728325I think i saw you teamkilling someone on a webm onceI won't joinI'm afraid of you
>>565728325Don't worry anon I got this.Join the lobby.
>>565709634Because thermites were useless for at least a year, and our other options were things like impact grenades.
Hear me out>Bile shriekers>They try and kamikaze into the player and explode on contact
>>565727082FVLL
>>565728693>vehicles 300% less durable against acid attacksi can see it
>>565710910Eruptor was godlike at launch but it and the xbow both went on Rollercoaster ride of extreme buffs and nerfs.
>>565728693The shirekers already used to one shot you i don't think anyone wants that back
>>565728494Good don't come you pussy
>>565728882arent you forgetting somebody?
>>565712467OPS was legitimately good* back before the 60 day patch gutted it.*except on operations with the "your reds just miss lmao" or "reds take 7 business days to arrive" modifiers
>>565729042what did they do to OPS during that patch?
I miss fighting Cyborgs, they got the best theme in the game as well
>>565729157It's actually what they did to the enemies you could kill with it.Used to be you could call an OPS on a heavy, and unless it was a Bile Titan or Factory Strider, you were virtually guaranteed to kill it with the explosion alone. But the 60-day patches buffed heavy HP massively (alongside AT weapon damage), whereas OPS only had its direct impact damage buffed. So now, if you hit a heavy with the explosion of an OPS it's very likely going to survive, and you're forced to try to land the shell directly on them, which is a feat of luck more than anything.
>>565726174The inner radius could do with being bumped up to 4m, and/or the outer radius could also do with being bumped up a bit, perhaps to 5/6m.But the priority should honestly be fixing the bug that makes plasma explosions appear larger the further away you are. That's where the real dissonance between the weapon's visible vs actual AoE comes from. Up close it looks reasonably accurate, but beyond 20m or so it looks increasingly stupid how big the explosion becomes visually vs how small the actual diameter is.
>liberate a planet>It doesn't get us anything >Lose a planet >It doesn't get us anything>Arrowhead pretty much confirms we can't unlock shit outside of warbondsThey really killed the exciting concept of the Galactic war
>>565729157One of the changes of the 60 day patch is that all of the heavy enemies received huge HP increases, but our AT weapons received equivalent buffs to make hits to kill remain the same. However for OPS, 380, walking barrage, air strike, and 500kg bomb the explosions were left untouched and the 60 day damage buff was retardedly applied to the impact damage of the shells/bombs physically striking things.Before the 60 day patch airstrike, 500kg, and ops used to be reliably workhorse stratagems. But they were gutted overnight when their damage potential was diverted away from their explosions and into their projectile impact damage.You don't hate Alexus or Sweden enough.
>>565729871i wonder why sam never played helldivers
>>565729629IMO just give it equivalent inner/outer radius numbers as the RR HE mode.
>>565729987He strikes me more as a pvp guy, unless the game is exceptionally silly.
Eradicate missions on the oasis planets really makes me miss the scientist evac missions with how much more open space they have on the map compared to normal eradicates
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775243892058915/76561197999865393diff 10 bugs on windows xp featuring svenska 500kg edition
>>565728572Yes instakill weapons have made status effects redundant, thank you for understanding my point
>drop on le nice biome>actually just the usual pissfart fog everywhere
>>565701073nta but I just rammed them with FRV
>>565730648Is Sweden just a foggy hellhole and they think the rest of the world is like this too?
If the vocal majority had their way mechs would have infinite ammo and be indestructible to anything short of vox engines to which they would effortlessly 2 shot anyway
>>565729629>bugheh
>>565731632We have like 9 months of variations of dark, cold and generally sad weather and if lucky summer can actually be sunny but alot of the time it goes from sunny to rain and back and forth.Also kinda depends on where you live cus ocean affects weather alot.
>>565730648Cannot wait for the Desert Oasis biome and we find out we've been scammed and it's actually just Boneyard but yellow and with extreme heat.
>>565731690If the vocal majority wants something, isn't it better to add what they want, considering they are the majority and also vocal? Maybe you meant minority, but I do find this slip up entertaining.
>>565732647No it was intentional, just because they are the majority does not mean they are correct. The devs should cater to solely me.
>>565732647people don't actually know what they want. they think they do but they don't.and if they do know what they want and really do just want there to be zero push back or challenge even when fighting the biggest, strongest, tankiest, most deadly enemies and they can sleepwalk through the highest difficulty missions then fuck them that's retarded, lame, and gay
steam://joinlobby/553850/109775243894394009/76561198121205373brilliant d10 bug lobby
>>565729352>add the main content to the game in a major title update (cyborgs and megafactories)>remove them from the gamepeak arrowhead
>>565733415I'm noticing
>>565733023Sure I can agree with that, but pretending like the desire to give mechs a better use case is necessarily going to make the game a cake walk is a bit absurd. They have obvious problems that would be remedied by giving them resilience on par with a the enemies they face and a little more ammunition. I'm actually ok with this not happening though, it seems the devs want to make a statement with this game and I'm fine with it being a medium for their creation, but I can still see the idea of people who are maybe put off by the imbalance.
>>565733023>people don't actually know what they wantThat's true but they know exactly when things are off and a lot of times they're spot on.Just because they don't want a cbt ragdoll spam swedish misery porn simulator doesn't mean they want the other extreme. I don't know why retards like you keep on bringing that up as if it's fact and you're somehow sooo much more superior because you're good in a buggy pve game.
>>565733023Spoken like a true and based developer! 10 points to Arrowhead!!
>>565732020This seems Canadian
>>5657334153/4
>>565733415full
>>565733583>They have obvious problems that would be remedied by Giving them resilience on par with a the enemies they faceenemies that die to a single shot from the appropriate weapon? so mechs getting one shot by a bot cannon tower or tank shot, getting speared by a bile titan stomp, or melting under a harvesters beam is actually fine? Or it's fine that their weapon arms and ability to effectively fight can be destroyed long before they actually die like shooting off a devastators gun arm, popping the sacs of a bile titan, or taking the legs off voteless? The enemies they face aren't resilient at all.Isn't this a great example of someone thinking they know what they want but that leads to something they don't actually want?
this guy takes this game way too fucking seriously.
>be arrowhead>Can't develop any proper progression or QOL "cause it's too hawd :(">Can release a warbond almost every month without fail
Mechs should be more fragile but have infinite uses and ordinary support weapon cooldowns.
>>565733023>people don't act-ACK!bzzaaaaap>don't actually know what th-ACK!bzzzzaaaaappppp>t-they think they do but they d-ACK!BZZZZAAAPPPPP
>>565733023truthnuke
Sentries should be given legs or float like guard dogs and move around autonomously
>>565729871Surprised to see my cropped image making its rounds on /hdg/. I suppose it's very appropriate considering the state of the game.
>>565735012B-but the enemies might quit the game if we're too powerful
>>565733023I have heard this argument multiple times before and it has never ended well for them.
>>565734993>almost every monthlol not even, usually takes them over 2 months
>>565735037man this shit reminds me of that streamer that brings up nothing but bad faith and strawmans right to the turk = cockroach behavior. I'm sick and tired of schizo retards that make up arguments in their mind and continue spamming that for multiple threads as if it's fact.
>people don't know what they want>except me :) I know what you want :)posted directly from swigger HQ
Arrowhead should implement every suggestion they get just to show how shit this game can get
>>565733965this blue line shows Stockholm correlation with longitude and latitude so yeah
>>565735954>bygdoszczwhat the fuck
Alexus should be put back in the surstromming basement
>>565735954Wrong because almost nobody lives on that part of Canada. That area's like a frozen tundra 3/4 of the time. Most Canadians live near the United States border.
>>565736012that's Poland, site wanted to show those cities in particular for some reason
>>565736139>>565735954Are you Polish? Is Gdansk Danish?
>>565736307gdansk is argentinian
>>565736361It doesn't seem latinx from its name.
>>565736546deception
>>565727082GGs anons. Good shit.
>>565733023They didn't like this TRVKE NVKE
how come /hdg/ never fights squids...
>>565737023boring except for mechs but still kinda boring
>>565737023boring underbaked faction
>>565737023booooorrrrrrrrrring
>>565737023boring and obnoxious
>>565737023>>565737096>>565737115>>565737127>>565737139botGAWD btw
>>565737023easiest faction so entertaining in the short term but not worth fighting for more a few hours a month
>>565737317Boringbros...
>>565710839Halo 2 Sword glitchin mafugah
I hate how painfully slow EATs are compared to the recoilless rifle.
lobby doko?
>832x1216yup, it's sloppy slop slop
Squiddiver (singular) in shambles.
Lobby Koko!steam://joinlobby/553850/109775243897850573/76561198040375859
>>5657334152/4 with two missions left
>>565738052Do you have the previous version, with the gloomy weather?
>>565735152I just feel like the problem with mechs is that there is a dissonance between how fragile that they are and how fragile the game pretends that they are. The cooldowns and use counts are tuned like they are unstoppable juggernauts. I think instead they should lean into being a type of expendable weapon. Something used for short bursts of destruction and not something carefully tended the whole match.
>>565738058FVLL
>>565723845just in time for the nitrogen cooled armor!
>>565734736>enemies that die to a single shot from the appropriate weaponYou have to hit them in the weak spot if you want a kill with the appropriate weapon. It's not like tank turrets or heavies are really what's killing piloted mechs to begin with, that's more to do with swarming chaff, which mechs should definitely not be vulnerable to lol.
>>565733415>>565734045>>565734305>>565738192Punching hiro in her stomach.
>>565738420Rude.
forehead so tall you can land a whole ass pelican on it
>Treads on Vox Engines can be destroyed, immobilizing itBUT>Treads on the Bastion can also be destroyed (they're also unarmored, btw)Do you take the deal? It will inevitably be bugged so the treads on the Bastion have a 100% damage to main health on it for like a month.
>>565726847just a little bonk
>>565738585ok but make the tracks fixable by helldivers in the field and make it a two man operation to encourage coop
>>565727046wouldnt surprise me if the homing pathing reverses to the player using spear
>>565738292This one?
>>565733415STILL 2/4where are (You)?
>>565727543they recently fixed the hulks doing it within the last 6 months
>>565738882bro if ur lobby depopulated after one mission i cant imagine how bad it is
Double Freedom Double FunDouble Freedom Double Fun
>>565738860Yes thank you bro'
>>565728206arc dog is ok, de-escalator may have some use for new meth bugs. mid bond overall. I waited til I only had 3 left and it was between the gas bond and warp bond unlock.
>>565739274>de-escalator may have some use for new meth bugsIt fucks. Also it doesn't pop the spores.
Once they they fix the Flame Sentry (and Lumberer) fire stream problem, I think the Flame Sentry is gonna climb hard up the tier lists, and by extension make Urban Legends even more of a must buy.>Cooldown just a bit higher than MG Sentry>Shorter than Gatling Sentry>AP4>46 meters of range>Slows enemies>Panics enemies>Does more damage than the Cremator>Explodes on death like an Incendiary Grenade
>>565733415full again
>>565739327Sorry, *36 meters of range. Fat thumbed the 4.
>>565728693make them only slightly larger than the bile scavenger but they move in a tight formation like a swarm, killing one can detonate multiple and any stragglers run away like a stalker.
>koreans still haven't updated the arrowsgrim
>>565729871dont forget that after the last time chinks hacked the strategic order they no longer give any rewards
I haven't l bought the new warbond yet but have been looking at the wikis. The pissile inflicts 1000 points of AP5 damage. The charger has 1000 points of level 4 leg armor. Did the Swedes bring back ye-olde dive+shoot leg meta with the pissile?
steam://joinlobby/394510/109775243899159177/76561199108851031hd1, d12-15 whatevs
>>565739840>Chinks>HackedNigga you can literally bypass the anti cheat just by having high enough pingThere's nothing to hackIt's on the swedes for having such dogshit security and expecting 100% fair playI get resetting pre fudged numbers but they also rob the entire playerbase of the time spent trying to progress often 8-12 hours of global progress just dumped out because they're to retarded to fix anyhting
>>565739018>too many bugs>can't strip ablative armour quickly >bots can (sort of) tank it and sometimes theres just too many of them I don't like it and I'm sad I spent jewcoin on it.
*ragdolls you*
>>565740604that's cool. I want a devastator now. and some helldivers. a helldivers kill team would be cool.
>>565739327Hardest reasoning I've ever seen for why all minigun-based options should be increased to AP4. All these benefits over the Gatling Sentry AND a shorter cooldown is absurd.
>>565740604
>>565739317>>565739274I have been considering force of law because stun is good against fent bugs, seems useful against squids too
Any leaks that came with this warbond? Need some hopeium bros..Also how tf do you deal with gunship patrols that you didn't snipe before they agroed onto you? If I take one out, by the time I move on to the next they fire pin point rocket salvos, and even if I dodge those, their machine gun fire probably has like more than 50% hit chance. And no taking cover isn't really a solution, unless it's a sheer fucking cliff, they just move to where they can shoot me. And noticing them before agro isn't always possible since the sound system fucking spazzez out and I can't hear them. Wtf is the secret? Pop 2 or 3 grenade shields and hope for the best?
>>565740684There actually is a helldiver killteam. They're also known as elysian drop troops.
Spore burst scav you vex me soYou are a very tiny foe.Yet when you leap, evade my leadin one hit my guy is dead.You scamper and jump in the airI think your speed just isnt fair.My dog is busy with something elseAnd my teammate about teamkills yells.The breaker doesnt make the cutI have to hush my super strut.I hope the torcher will be the fitor this MO I'll have to quit.
>>565741129if enemies could be ragdolled, would it be unbalanced? what if the ragdoll was specific only to certain types of weapons/strats? sort of like how stun and gas are
>>565741239The de-escalator is good against everything really. Its not the best weapon at anything, but its flexible and fucks. But consider using an armor that gives you faster reloading.
Rank every major update
>>565741585All dogshit, all of them.
Smart gun lock-on primary when?
>>565741357is there? are you thinking about Tempestus Scions? either way I think it'd be easiest to run them as the Kasrkin. The equipment is pretty much the same.
>>565741502Well google ai said get cutting edge or steeled veterans but those are the two oldest goybonds and idk if the clanker is reliable on that sayWell I just bought force of law so I hope you are right
>>565738860https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U-IwtuPXcFI
>>565741357>elysian drop troopsAre not really helldivers, since they use jetpacks to drop from aircraft in the atmosphere instead of parachutes. The Tempestus Scions use grav chutes from low earth orbit on rare occasions, but not as a matter of course. The only non-SM faction that uses drop pods occasionally are the SoB.
>>565741502Which armors gives faster reloading to support weapons? I thought that the parade armor and siege ready just hasten primary reload, and cowboy just hastens secondary reload?
>>565742378correction, EDTs use grav chutes as well, not jet packs.
>>565742397Siege ready/parade armor also makes stratagem weapons reload faster, even if it doesn't really say it
>>565742397No armors give faster reloading to support weapons. That other anon is delusional.To be honest, I want to see a complete armor passive rework. I think every single armor should have a positive passive that's really strong, and a negative passive as a trade-off. And then give transmog to everybody at the level cap.
>>565742397none
>>565742649>>565742726So you're telling me some of those ridiculously fast looking reload on stratagem weapons are just the normal speed ?
>>565742610no they do not>>565742918there is a ship module upgrade that makes support weapons reload 10% faster but thats it
This ones on me for the immediate reload. I guess.
>>565742649>>565742726>>565743106Well shit the placebo is real
>>565742649Ergonomics should affect things like reloading, swap speed and recoil control and light/med/heavy armors should give different levels of ergo buffs/debuffs to make bringing light armors more viable and heavy armor isn't a braindead siege ready or fortified pick because everything else is useless
>>565739018Need a support shotgun that uses Double Freedom shells but in a drum mag
>>565739835have the shitty westoid onehttps://mega.nz/file/LBdkQARQ#zMEvTJ265Px1aH-ZNWgsPjU-QfYQocHMi04dZwpegvs
>>565743137This is too perfect to not be on purpose
>>565741037Gatling is more reliable for team killing though!
>>565743161Agreed, light armor should be exclusively about speed and scouting, heavy armors should be all about defense and survivability, and medium armors should be about utilitarianism like bonus resources i.e. grenades and ammo boosts.
>>565743308How about this one
>>565743308oh 100%. this one tried to get me on the way there and back.
>>565743226bless you, anon. better than nothing.
>>565743137I've been conditioned to dive as soon as I see those fuckers ragdoll in my direction
D10bugsteam://joinlobby/553850/109775243901611488/76561197999417031
>>565743510As frustrating as it is in the moment, watching these are pretty great.
>>565743519does holding the laser on the target actually update the missile guidance?
>>565743137>>565743510>>565743519>no hostile code btw
>>565743137>>565743519>swedes thought it would be funny if the titans fell over on you>they make it so there's some pull to encourage that happening when they die>they fuck something up cause they're swedes and the pull is too strong>titans get launchedI can see that happening
>>565743763What did you just watch
>>5657436252/4
>>565743785I'm pretty sure the code to make the cyborg escape pod got fucked up somewhere and made every single heavy enemy corpse lunge at (you) in particular which is how I ended up with this>>565743510This was around the cyberstan patch.They quietly fixed it and never admitted it happened.
>>565743763Yeah it does. Kinda counterintuitive when you drop the targeter upon letting go of the mouse button.
How to talk to your local supply sissy / medic diver.
I'm still mad swiggers balance the entire game around the supply pack
>>5657436253/4
>>565743975This mechanic existed since release
>>565744219>This mechanic existed since releaseBut not that aggressively. During cyberstan heavy corpses were flying all over the place chasing people.
>Die once in entire mission because a chink shot an explosive at me and i died to ragdoll when i gently brushed the ground>Check time>7 minutes passed
>>565729352I liked fighting soldier borgs. Vox are pure unfun aids current state. I would prefer they make them non-respawning enemies, like 3 roving around the map, and increase their HP along with making their aggro range LoS, if you can see them then they see you and instantly start shooting at you.
leandivers with stim pistols...
kill yourself
>>565742649>at level capjust make it 50,000 Requisition or 25 Super Samples or something we already dont use but have maxed
>>565744307The BT claw bonk has always been a thing, but it definitely feels like it got cranked since Cyberstan
>>565744501Thats just a woman
>>565741240any AP4 support weapon cleans them up
>>565744114>Running around doing shit>Have some damage but nothing worth stimming for>See medic darts flying in my direction>Keeps missing despite me moving in a straight line>Stop and turn around>Misses anyways>Finally hits me>Gets raped by a silent alpha commander and his niggaz I saw coming at him but didn't shoot because I thought it would be funny if he got mauledSometimes the best way to be a support player is to kill shit and not die.
>>5657436253/4 still
>>565741585Sepsis tier, literally all of them. Not a single major update left me with any good feelings.Into the unjust hive worlds: so fucking incredibly glitchy I didn't play more than 3 missions while the event was ongoing. Fixed hive world were pretty fun but the hype was gone by then.Machinery of oppression and Cyberstan: slop engine cancer spam, shit storyline, no seaf troopers, nothing unique for the capital, underwhelming cityscape. Absolutely nothing redeemable and the worst of all time.Squid introduction and battle for SE: pretty much fun originally, but made me realize for the first time shit is railroaded just for the sake of an underwhelming story. "Why are we losing cities when everyone is winning every single fucking operation? Le background invasion force fucks everything up when the actual missions are piss easy". Also squids having oversimplified missions (to this day), with less outposts, objectives, everything, made them underwhelming and a meh experience.If the squids void mech update was a major one, it would have been the single one that was actually OK, and there may be some other I've missed, but it says a lot that I can't even remember them.What a shit dev team.
>>565744879mokou no...
I love the new biome
I've always liked this one.
>>565745079
>>565741585Hated every single one of them but I harbor a particularly greater hate towards the cave diving update because it was literally fucking unplayable a charger dying in a tunnel made it impassable for like 10 minutes until it fully despawned because apparently even if the corpse disappears the hitbox is still there.
>>565745237reminds me of the dragonroach juking the spear or whatever it was
>>565743625JOIN. THIS IS A THREAT
>>565743625FULL
>>565745237Kino...Someone should make a compilation of all these ridiculous deaths and upload it to kiketube.
>>565745237How the fuck do these swedish idiots have jobsOh wait, the QA lead got fired, guess they don't! XD
Normal Bugs are so easy its legit gamerdad difficulty. Its insane how people insist theyre the hardest faction.
>>565745578aim avoidance isn't re—
>>565745578Fuck me it looks like one of my dota games playing jakiro support during fights
This one was deserved.
>>565745848It's like an invisible toddler playing with toys until he explodes into a tanty flipping the car over
>>565745715watchers on squids have started doing it really hard recently
>No cyborg planets up>No squigger appropriators planets up
>forced loss MO>along with bonus fuck you of losing xenoentomology center because MO monkeys can't read numbersriveting story telling by the swiggers once again
>>565745848WHAAAAZZZZZUUUUUP
>>565746232>forced loss? The objective is to hold ONE of three choice planets. Not all three. We chose Brilliance. We were never going to get more than that.
>>565746232We literally just won retard we only have to hold one of the planets and we just kept Brilliance from being taken back
>>565746232Read the MO
>>565746108>devs work their asses off to add new content to the game>joel's ego-trips and writes the content out of the gameThat jab in the Q&A about "renegade balance changes" really makes me wonder if there are warring factions at Arrowhead.
>tfw the swede is so utterly incompetent people think they're being malicious because they refuse to believe a human being can be this severely retarded
Who up edging they dickle?
>>565746450
>>565746879hanlon's razor requires you to be exceedingly naïve or incapable of pattern recognition
>>565746825>That jab in the Q&A about "renegade balance changes" really makes me wonder if there are warring factions at Arrowhead.Honestly? Its possible. Just by working in a few places unrelated to coding or gaming, that kind of shit happens everywhere. You almost always get some sort of clans trying to fuck over each others.
>>565747132>Piles tardwrangles the studio and the game becomes good>Scams keeps the chair warm and collects his paycheck and the game turns to shit
>>565747291>Piles tardwrangles the studioyou have no information to support this
>>565747291>>565747405I believe Pilestedt is a fat autistic retard. But i also think he understood he had to put his autistic ideas on the side to provide a game for the people who bought it. He was never openly hostile to the players, unlike some of the devs.He's not jesus or anything, but better than leaving Alexus or Fredrik do what they want.
Its malevolence being wrangled by tards
>>565746765
>>56574740560day patch
Vehicle Upgrade Bay when?>Exosuit: Sprint>Exosuit: Stratagem Launcher>Exosuit: Additional Unit>Bastion: Ablative Armor>Bastion: Auto-Loader>Bastion: Torque Increase (Faster turning)>FRV: Run-Flat Tyres>FRV: Ablative Armor>FRV: Cooldown Reduction
>>565748126which was october of 2024piles stepped down end of may 2024
>no lobbydead ass game
>>565748456Around 2030-2050, sweet summer child.
Is the mystical Super Credit-shitting chink truly extinct?
>>565721612Just extract with another 10.
I will not tolerate any Pilestedt dickriding in my thread. He was in charge for the entirety of the game's 8 year development, and the game didn't even work on launch. Every single broken system is the direct result of his arrogance and mismanagement. Do not misread this as an endorsement of his replacement, they are both indisputably unqualified for any leadership position, let alone video game development.
>>565739018Sweeper better
That halo shotgun and pistol should be medium pen
An entire year of progress gone like a fart in the wind. I'm not playing galactic war anything anymore unless it's something I want to.
>>565750151We will liberate those planets again when the MO tells us to. Every loss is an acceptable one in favor of the MO.
when are we getting a belt fed shotgun
>bfgl lacks both the damage and radius of the normal gl>instead it gets to use half of its ammo killing one heavy enemy and doesn't need to reload
>>565750524Only real use is fucking around on arena type missions. Or playing at diff 6.
Is this game's entire lifetime going to consist of Arrowhead fucking up, players leaving, Sony beating AH into submission, fix patches, over and over again?
>>565751279yes
>>565750524as opposed to a med pen grenade launcher mag dump of 10 nades?I swear you retards expect tools that aren't design for a certain thing to excel at a certain thing otherwise its trasha single BFGL can clear an entire map of bug holes without ever reloading or restocking
>>565751398so can the autocannon retard
>>565750517one of the dumbest designs ever. Not even hating on the idea of a BFSG in general but just this design. DShk chambered for shotgun shells. But i guess that's just the issue with a BFSG, it makes no sense sadly.
>>565751398so can the quasar cannon so what
>>565750517I just want a support weapon version of the Breakthrough's shotgun.>AP4 shrapnel>40 pellets each dealing 90 damage>revolving chamber with 6 round capacityIf they were to scale it down to a support weapon, we'd probably get something like 24 pellets each dealing 40 damage on a 5-chamber revolver that you would have to manually reload. But as long as it's still AP4 I would be fine with however they decide to scale it down.
>>565751476autocannon needs to reload retard
>Destroy 1 broadcast, 1 infested tower, 2 bug nests in the time it takes the other 3 guys to destroy 1 infested tower>They kept dying over and over despite having a mech>Get kickedI'm not one to run dive but why should I stick around while 3 fools fumble to do one single objective
>>565751814Congratulations, that's the autocannon flak round
>>565751897>0.67 seconds to jam a clip into it
>>565752040Autocannon flak is AP2 and AP3, dumbass.
we farming medals on zombieswe fuckin around
>>565751398>a single BFGL can clear an entire map of bug holes without ever reloading or restockingHoly bad faith "arguments" Batman.
Bug divers are the lowest IQ motherfuckers.That is all.
>Join /hdg/ lobby>Get hit on by one anon all round for playing a leandiver>They send me a selfie on steam>Actually kinda cuteT-thanks...
>>565752602unless its spore divers, then theyre the highest iq
>dead simple no brain required easy changes that would massively improve weapons without changing their identity making them stupidly overpowered:>constitution:make the front sight post more readable, give stripper clip reload, optional: SMLE style 10 round mag with partial 5 round reloads>lib conRETVRN to explosive and give the bullet an 66% durable damage ratio. move the stagger from the projectile to a small 10 damage AP3 0.4m inner 1m outer radius explosion>breaker S&Ptriple pellet count per shot, return to AP1. makes it the ultimate close in chaff killer shotgun but lets the normal breaker still have a place>punisher+40 shells>slugger+20 shells, smooth the pump animation so follow up shots are easier>M90Agive AP3>re-educatorlet it (and only it) inflict acid debuff. it doesn't have any AoE, it's ammo is too limited to spam it on everything, it occupies the incredibly competitive secondary slot. it needs something other than "gas a single enemy">maxigungive it functionality to remain spun up while holding ADS, let players dive out of firing it, give it a first person reticle halo AR style, increase push force so it shoves corpses out of the way easier (don't worry pushforce is not how far enemies get knocked back while alive, it's how much force it imparts on physics objects)>beltfed grenade launchergive it HEDP rounds with ~200 damage and 80% durable damage ratio (same as AC), AP4. explosion damage and radius can stay the same and AP can go down to 3.>arc throwergive it blitzer treatment with an instant shot followed by 1 second recycle period allowing the user to 'full auto' it the same way. and FIX THE FUCKING TARGETING
i miss the days of shotgun meta
So sporeburst pretty much require a backpack rover right? Hotdog seems like the best one besides the laser one. Gas dog is fucking suicide unless you have armor
>>565751913they're fighting actual enemies while you run through completely unopposed
I tested the shield mech against the bots and have found that the bots will specifically aim for your right side and avoid the shield. I attempted to turn myself to the right to get the shield more in front of me and the bots will just adjust their aim and continue to shoot your right side. Right leg was damaged first then the right arm was blown off. Swigger malicious code.
>>565751814I also hope the stagger stays if they did that. I feel like I'm playing bloodborne parrying chargers with my blundebuss.
AT dog when
>>565752823sweeper, double freedom and trident ain't good enough for you?
how is fire against bugsstill bugged?
Mech dog when
>>565752908Didn't seem like they were putting up much of a fight against the 2nd easiest faction in the game on one(uno) out of 4 main objectives
>>565753351if its from a cremator its god tier
>They put med armor in the goy shop againthey can't keep getting away with it
I'm scared to take off the light oxygenator armor because I forgot what it's like to be slow.
>>565753837I mean, you can simply not buy the warbond and only buy the Superstore stuff. That's exactly how it works with Viper Commandos.
>>565752723>return BS&P to AP1Anon, you do realize that you're cutting down the amount of enemies it can damage by like 90% and making it do half damage to the remaining ones that it would be able to damage, right? It doesn't matter if you triple the pellet count, it'll be absolutely USELESS.
I just unlocked the de escalator what do I think about it?
>>565752691Unfortunately there's an overlap of normal bug divers that drop into spore bugs with no idea wtf they're doing
>>565754007I like it but make sure no teammates are nearby
>>565725210Whats the 7 minute thing?
>>565752723The Re-Educator has a weird niche in stealth. You can hit an enemy with it and while the target is under the gas effect, you can repeatedly attack the target and it won't alerts other enemies.It applying acid on top of the gas would be pretty good.
>>565751398>Backpack support weapon's bragging rights is doing something less ammo efficiently than the Cremator or even the fucking Sterilizer
>>565754442Teammates better make sure they're not in my sights.
>>565754475>Seven minutes. Seven minutes is all I can spare to play with you.
>>565752963they seem to aim center mass when they aren't trying to predict your movement
>>565753943Do not, Helldivers, become addicted to oxygen. It will take hold of you, and you will resent it's absence.
>>565754475New schizo theory is that the game activate a protocol to kill you every 7 minutes.I believe it.
>>565754883>the devs are simultaneously the most incompetent shit coders that can't even program their way out of a wet paper bag but also capable of implementing these incredibly sly, subtle systems that on the fly change behaviour of the games mechanics dynamically
>>565753994Different anon, but the fact that AP1 stopped existing as a balance factor robbed this game of a lot of nuance. It would be an excellent way to balance pistols and SMGs instead of this drag factor bullshit we have right now.AP1: pistol caliber, shotgun pelletsAP2: intermediate rifle caliber, heavy pistol rounds and PDWsAP3: full battle rifle cartridgesAP4: anti-materielAP5: matching anti-tankAP6: fully anti-tankChaff should all be AV0, maybe AV1 on some body parts for higher tiers. Medium enemies should be AV2 and AV3 with AV1 weak spots, maybe the occasional AV4 strongpoint like Heavy Devastators. Heavies should be AV4 over their entire bodies with a few select AV3 weakpoints and AV1 or AV0 internals if you break their armor plates. Superheavies should be AV5 with the occasional AV4 and AV3 subsystem that can be damaged/destroyed, and AV1 internals after cracking their armor.
>>565752301>>565751696>>565751476>>565754746This is a faggot redditor from the bootlicker sub trying to own the 4chan chuds. Exact same wording.
>>565755031Despite everything, at some point someone really cooked in this game. Look at the general gameplay, the enemies movements, you can cut a few limbs, and see bugs limp. Cut them all, the animation change. The squids have ablative armor. The general gun autism, the feeling of the gameplay etc.Some of the devs were competent. Also there's different types of malicious codes that we can tell 100% exist. Turrets killing helldivers, heavies aiming for you after death etc.So why the fuck not?
>>565753994the only enemies that don't have ANY AP1 or 0 spots are enemies that are covered in AP3 minimum so even if it was AP2 it still couldn't hurt them. you're vastly overestimating the prevalence of AP2 parts
>>565755168You're also a faggot redditor
>>565755281Trying to hard to blend here
>>565752963THE BOTS TRYING TO KILL YOU ARELE MALICIOUS???
>>565755281He might well be but he's also Our Guy On The Inside
>The SPEAR should be a one shot kill on everything weapon with low ammo>Instead of fixing it they gave it one more rocket so it performs as a shitty recoilles with aimbotsbravoravo
>>565750524>>565751398All I'll say is when a guy runs the BFGL on bots I suddenly don't have to worry about anything but tanks.
>>565756402My cope is that stratagem upgrading is coming like HD1 had and that's where some of these weaker stratagems will get a power bump. Once the SPEAR is able to hit like a hellbomb it'll be great.
>>565756402And then people will tell you devs always know better.
>>565755168>speargunholy shit I think everyone forgot this gun exists
>>565753994>Current AP2 breaker S&P:15/4 damage per pellet, 16 pellets>theoretical AP1 breaker S&P: 15/4 damage a shot, 48 pellets>old S&P vs warriors AV1 bodies: 11 per shot x 16 = 176 damage>new S&P vs warriors AV1 bodies: 11 per shot x 48 = 528 damageIt's a massive upgrade against most chaff. Only brood commanders, spewers, hive guard, devastators, scout/rocket striders, and overseers have an appreciable amount of AV2 parts but many of them have AV1 or AV0 parts that are either fatal, low HP, and/or will kill them if they lose all of them. Those are also the larger type of chaff that the birdshot shotgun shouldn't be super effective against.There's also the side effect of being very good against the fleshy AV0 bits of chargers and bile spewers because even at high durability you're still shitting out nearly 190 to 280 damage a shot.
>>565741585Cbf, game is better today than it was at launch.
>>565756568>>new S&P vs warriors AV1 bodies: 11 per shot x 48 = 528 damageI'm a massive fucking idiot moron and forgot to do the armour. After armour its per pellet, but that is still 336 damage a shot vs 176.
>>565756402can't even dumbfire it you have to use it for 500 rounds to understand how and when to fire it to oneshot certain enemies
>>565755104Nta, but what I hated about ap1 was that it was lumped in with ap2 in "light pen." I wouldn't have hated it so much if they actually tried putting all the information in the game. I feel the same about durable damage. I hate having to pull up the wiki every time I want to check a weapon's stats because they can't be bothered to make a decent equipment menu.
>>565756402It doesn't even aimbot properly 9 times out of 10 it will aim for a shitty spot and miss what would otherwise be an easy 1 shot with a recoilless
>>565751398>a single BFGL can clear an entire map of bug holes without ever reloading or restockingThe regular grenade launcher can already do that while also being an effective weapon.
>>565756831Durable damage is one of the biggest piece of shit ruining this game. You can't take anything at face value because of that.Also they had an UI with WAY MORE information about your guns, like damage fall off and what not. But they wanted you to pick guns because they "feel" good, and not because they are good. :))))) The swedish paternalism. :))))FUCK YOU NIGGERS, FUCK YOU I HATE YOU
>Take rocket and AC, mech, and a bp weapon.>Breach happens. Plop down turrets far enough to be able to cover without getting instantly gibbed by a charger.>Stand guard little ways off to the side.>Out of nowhere.rocket turret turns and fucks up my mech's leg.>Look in the direction of shot.>Single bug there that wasn't before. No nests in that direction. No one has been that way yet.Yeah so natural. If all the purposefully malicious coding was removed from this game it would only improve. Retarded dad gamers will die 7+ a game without this shit so they will still have their stupid fucking lul deaths.
>>565756831>>565755104Sounds boring and tedious. People want to pick what looks cool and have fun not memorize a thousand damage types.
>>565757006Funny because a good portion of arguments about shitty weapons are like that.>hey this shitty weapon can do this and that>well this weapon can do it too, and its not shit on top of that
>>565757148>>565757006Gee its almost like they're both close to balanced and your small brains always go to extremes because you can't understand nuances.
>thinking the Missile Pistol is kind of meh against bugs so far>accidentally hit a Charger's leg while going for its ass>cracks in one shot>realise its a pocket-Commando, not a pocket-SPEARI understand now.
>>565757264>Gee its almost like they're both close to balancedThe grenade launcher is good and balanced.The backpack grenade launcher is some useless meme piece of shit.Hope this helps.
>>565757059>be playing>watch as my gun dog keeps shooting the cockpit of an ally mech, dead center>of course bugs were near the mech, but it was aiming high enough that none of the bullets would've ever hit one>ignores every other bug, including ones right next to me, just keeps shooting the mech The malicious code is fucking real
>>565757457Both are well balanced, with a slight bias towards the GL. Your fatalistic one dimensional view on the BFGL is caused by a combination of insecurity and lack of objective reality. Hope this helps.
>>565757457>The backpack grenade launcher is some useless meme piece of shit.And yet a team of 4x of it would clear D10 100% of the time just fine.
>>565757669>combination of insecurity and lack of objective realityprojection
>>565757774Nope. I don't care if you use either.
>>565757380Kinda wish it had the commando's targeting. Hitting center mass with the lock on isn't very useful for most of the things I want to aim at. I'd settle for it remembering that I want it to stay in unguided though.
>>565757847>appeal to triviality
Never seen anyone in my lobbies using the BLGL, weird. But then again my lobbies are usually filled with nice and competent people.
GL is better than BPGL
>>565757937Neither is trivial, you're confusing it with the stim pistol.
fire needs a nerf, it requires zero skill to just spray the ground and melt everything up to and including tanks.
>>565749058it was common samples, but like 3 missions in a row it didnt register.
>>565757962>BLGL>BPGLIs this a meme or something
>>565757264The BFGL is just fucking ass bro.>shit damage>shit AOE>shit accuracy>combine all three of these together, and you get shit ammo economySure it has AP4 and no reloads, but that doesn't really matter when you still gotta use 3x as many shots to do the same amount of damage with almost half the AOE.
>>565758192I'm just tired anon
>>565758228You not liking something =/= something being bad. Additionally, something being slightly weaker than something else doesn't mean its F tier. Learn nuance.
is the gallant the best pair with shields?are their other one handed guns that outclass it?
>>565757752A team of 4 people with the GL and jump pack would not only finish the mission just fine, but they'd finish it faster, with no deaths, and more kills.
>>565758446The Gallant is a fucking piece of shit dude. No damage galore. Pick up the knight if you own it.
>>565755168>using the BFGM for heavy clearI guess the dickriders exclusively play on D6.
>>565758490A team with four sterilizers wouldn't.
>>565757962>BLGLLove that anime
>>565756402It's a direct buff against spear level threats, at least. That's mostly just the worm. You can crack its shell a little faster now.
>GL>10*4*400 = 16,000>BFGL>120*150 = 18,000Tldr if you can aim BFGL > GL and if you can't aim GL is better. Its that shrimple.
>>565758490Retard.
>>565758538I ain't giving swiggers anymore of my money.
>>565758791You're just as retarded as the devs, i cannot believe it.
>>565758791Does this mean the maxigun is the best weapon in the game?
>>565758791dude explosive damage means the total damage can technically be infinite
>>565759131No that's the epoch, but it's close.
>>565755031>He doesnt believe they dont go above and beyond when it comes to fucking over the player for "muh grunt fantasy"You havnt been paying attention, have you?
Played the game today. Had a lot of fun. Light armour and cremator works better on spore bugs than I thought.
no one cares kill yourself
lobby doko
>>565759131no but it is better than the MMG/HMG by a long shot since the ammo buff >>565759285Lmao retard take
>>565758606Nobody cares about tranime, faggot. Kill yourself.
>>565758913Silence bufftranny. Lower the difficulty if you can't handle it.
>>565758446Crossbow is obviously the best, but yes then the Gallant is second best by a long shot.
Uh oh, what time is it in India
>>565760384Its buff'o'clock, everything that isn't minmax meta is instantly worse than pakistan and must be buffed until it one shots everything, especially jammer towers
leakcord tranny melty
>>565758791BFGL gets all 120 back on resupply while GL only gets 30 back, so it's even better in the long run.
>>565760384Do the needful and kill yourself now!
saaar don't be insulting the devs pls saar weapon is gud okay???just redeeming the warbond with Googleplay giftcards saaarI SAY DONT DO THE COMPLAIN OF BALANCE YOU BLOODY BASTERD BICH
Brown people don't play this game? R-right???
Man and we'll probably have to wait almost 2 months until we see something new (and broken). Can't imagine how bad the shitposting will get.
>No faction indicator for spore bugs.>More broken MO/SO text. Probably 50% are broken when first added.>Corpse bug still a huge problem.>Climbing bug still a thing. Applies to fucking mechs so you can't go over a mole hill.> "New" biome is just a recolor with the same old shit from other biomes, just mixed slightly.> "New" enemy is a recolor. But now with rag doll and insane hp bloat.I hope these devs are not paid a lot. Especially whoever can't manage to upload a text and image file once or twice a week I mean holy shit.
>>565761439The caller ID showed "Brown man calling..."but when he looked...the call...was coming from INSIDE THE HOUSE!
>>565753994>>565755279here's a handy visual reference>green: both AP1 and AP2 can damage and kill entirely on its own>red: neither AP1 or AP2 can damage or kill on its own>yellow: AP2 can damage or kill on its own while AP1 cannot>blue: AP2 can kill on its own, AP1 can kill but not on its own. Meaning that another weapon can break the armour off revealing a spot that AP1 could kill them through, or AP1 can deliver a finishing blow to some part of it if the rest is sufficiently weakened.>purple: both AP1 and AP2 can get the finishing blow but can't kill entirely on its own.special note about agitators and the three overseer variants: AP1 can technically at least hurt them in the case of agitators and kill them in the case of overseers but doing so would be very finicky and unreliable so I put them in the " AP1 needs help"So you're looking at a grand total of:4 enemies that an AP1 S&P can't hurt where an AP2 S&P could. but all 3 are emplacements/structures, not actual enemies6 enemies that an AP1 S&P can technically kill but not on its own where an AP2 S&P could. but 3 of them can technically be killed by AV1 on its own but it's too much of a pain, and 2 of them are the two of the heaviest units in the game that you're not going to be killing entirely with your primary weapon so it's not exactly a big loss in functionality now is it.rocket striders, overseers and agitators can be fixed with an easy adjustment of the rockets for the strider and the legs of the overseers and agitator. Keep in mind that doing so would also open the way to making AP1 not a forgotten, abandoned penetration level and let more guns and enemies make use of it like >>565755104 pointed out
>>565761439Current Arrowhead CEO is brown.
not reading all that
>>565761638Arrowhead doesn't play the game they just tweak numbers in a spreadsheet and push directly to production
>>565761689Fellow IT slave?
>>565760708i wonder if you are actually this retarded or if you are just pretending
>Dump 6 shots into the head of a charger with the meme escalator>Barely flinches>Takes another 6 to pop itkuso weapon
>>565761887I'm honestly not sure. I would say bait, but then the devs really do have this kind of logic so who knows
>Out of recoilles ammo because I need 2 resupplies to deal with your average spore bug hole>Supply pack dude coming my way>"I need supplies">Looks at me>Calls in resupplies at my feet>Walks away>He has 4 packs in his backpackI fucking hate this game they've nerfed everything at least once but never touched the fucking pack
>>565761550Vox can be entirely killed by AP2, but not AP3.Thank variable for that.
>>565752893it best to not fight them directly. pop one and they all get the buff. real run diver shit.
>>565762059i mean realistically what could they do to it without killing it outright
>>565762067
>>565762067>Thank variable for that.variable is a special case because of it's meme total mode. in principle AP2 can't kill vox engines entirely on its own
>>565762140Remove the ability to self resupplyTeammates can resupply you by pressing E near you like arming a portable hellbombThat way selfish niggers would stop taking it to spam ultimatums which is its main use now with the spore bugs
A lot of the whining and complaining about the games "balance" would be solved if people swallowed their ego and did pic rel
>>565762059i regularly kill pubniggers that do this and use up their whole pack
>>565762168Don't the latches break off before they do enough main damage?
>>565762168>50% transfer to main>overflow cap: yesthat means each one can only do a maximum of 500 damage to the main HP for a total of 2000 damage. AV3 can land the finishing blow but can't kill entirely on its own.
>>565762296>i am a molested portuguese pedophile and this is my postalright man
>>565762284Sloptubers would make 500 videos about how this change to encourage cooperative play would kill this 4-player coop game.
>>565762434Really weird and creepy projection.
>>565762437They would be right because the playerbase is that retarded.
>No spore bugs icon>Drop in>Spore bugs????
>>565762609Despite entire planets being covered with them the existence of spore bugs is a secret.
Lobby. Koko, not doko.Oh, and spare the slippers.
>>565762168Counting ever <AV3 you're still 1700 damage short from killing it.So maybe double freedom could get it if you maximum overkill every part.
>>565762395sorry, 1000 damage for each one. but that's 4000 damage for the track latches + 6000 damage for the vents for a total of only 10,000 damage to the voxes 11,000 HP. Is there a medium pen weapon that can overkill the vents by 170+ damage each? even the deadeye only overkills the vents neough to get it to 10,360 damage
>>565762284If they won't remove the stims then they need to remove self resupplying. It's such a stupid fucking item and is completely antithetical to the experience they want to foster and any player that doesn't crutch on it also desires.
>>565762245But in theory AND practice it can.
>>565762140Reduce the pack to 3 supplies instead of 4.
>Join match in the city defense missions>2 minutes in and already five civvies deadNot very democratic of you guys
>>565762284That would be great, but chinks would review bomb it.It's so sad we have to share the internet with them.
Did chargers actually get stealth buffed again?
>>565763497no
returning retard hereis the coyote still worth using? i heard it got nerfed
>>565763674it's pretty good
>>565763674As mid as it has always been.
>>565763674the nerf barely effected it. it's 1 more shot to set like 2 enemy types on fire when you shot them more than the minimum necessary times anyways
which femdiver voice is the one that isn't annoying as fuck again?
>>565763747>>565763814>>565763882did they nerf thermites too? what should i swap to? i dont have the last 3 or so warbonds
>>565764165>did they nerf thermites too?no? what gave you that impression
>missile pistol is actually AP5, the explosion is just AP3why the fuck is the in-game AP value listed as 3 then
>>565764274So arrowhead can quickly filter retards that don't play the game by looking at who complains about it being AP3.They did the same for melee by labeling them as light pen while being medium pen.
>2/3 of the playerbase is voting for the DSS to go to Turing despite the defense being a complete failureWow
>>565764834>caring about the fake and gay gaylactic warWow
>>565765064It's fake, gay AND retarded now
>>565765064Better than caring about the fake and gay real wars.
>>565764834I think 2/3rds of the player base don't even open the DSS menu.
>people say force of law is shit>buy it because I like the helmet and stun MGL>pacifier feels weak but is best used as a support gunner so you stun the enemy while teammate/sentry/drone goes for the kill, should absolutely get an arc damage buff or drum mag >de-escalator is handheld tesla tower good for killing hordes only one friendly fire incident so far >haven’t unlocked the othersI think I like it, not S tier but I would rank it A>>565765269true, I just figured out about the menu and I could put my surplus samples and req chips to use and am level 70 something
>>565765754Personally I think that the armor is one of the better ones vs the squids. At least the appropriator squids. Jetpack oversaars deciding that they're going to nail you with every round from their burst is one of their sucker punches, and I think space-cop armor provides the best defense vs being shot in the chest.
>>565765754The k9 is OP, you just can't use it in a pug lobby (it will kill your teammates. You can mitigate this with good positioning, but it loves helldiver blood.) If you can get a full group to wear arc resistant armor and everyone brings it, it plays the game for you. I mean it about the pugs too, you will get kicked (I would kick you too.)
I think i finally nailed a good loadout vs the new spore bugs>Recoilless>MG and gatling sentry>ORS>Gas nadesThrow sentries to deal with trash while I deal with heavies. Works well so far clearing D10 pretty easily now compared to yesterday I just cant quite figure out where the 1 shot hitbox is on the new bile titans sometimes they go flying across the map after 1 shot sometimes they take two to the face
>>565765754Force of law is very fun, no idea why it's the most hated warbond of all.
>>565766205>>RecoillessTrash. Janny Rifle is the most boring weapon in the game.
>bottranny blows up my mech as it drops because he thought it was a hulkInstant kick for that retard. I regret giving the bot front a chance but I am testing the mechs. Back to the bug front where 4 dudes in mechs rip the bugs a new asshole.
>>565765754It's dervedly the worst warbond.The de escelator feels like a gambling machine with its damage, and doesn't have te ammo or reloadspeed to not feel like a bottom tier gun.The k9 has all the teamkilling of guarddogs and arc weapons in one.Urchin is a joke.And the pacifier is worse than even the libconc.The paintjobs are really nice though.
>>565765893Bought it but haven’t fought squiggers in a while so might try on that front, the warrant pistol is great for those annoying fucking drones Most of my runs I go leveler and solo silo, sometimes solo silo and leveler and inspired by someones expendable kit from yesterday I had fun with EAT/commando, solo silo and leveler with drone because I didn’t want to run into bunkers with shitty teammates >>565766030Dunno what pug means, I do like the hotdog for cooking fent bugs and not triggering their speed boostPython commandos is ok I am mixed on the ARGL 1-2 >>565766261I think its because the pacifier is low damage
>>565766280>weapon that successfully does exactly what it's supposed to do is boringWhat, you'd prefer the unreliable nature and terrible ammo-versus-breakpoints value of the Spear?
>>565766205>Recoillesshell naw. there are 6 BTs and another 6+ heavies per breach, recoilless just doesn't have enough ammo or reload speed to deal with them all>inb4 "but ur teammates!"good joke
You guys ever wonder if they let recoiless be as overpowered as it is so that nobody can complain that HD2 is pay2win because you basically get the most powerful support weapon at the start of the game?
>>565765754There's a bug with the de escalator where it will not do self damage. Shoot that shit at your feet to create space when you're getting swarmed.On a side note, I don't like the notion that the pacifier and the lib concussive are useful as support weapons by stunning an enemy for someone else to kill. I think it's better to just kill that enemy outright yourself with a different gun. It doesn't help that the swedes nerfed status effects.
>>565766852>>565765754Shooting at your feet doesn't quite work since it has an arming distance before the warhead will arm. It is true that for some reason it won't target you with the arc, but it will gladly target and damage a friendly guard dog.
>>565766756It's so they can point at the RR when people would complain about the AC (the best gun and Piles favorite one aswell).
>>565766583Ur supposed to use 2 EATs per spore titan like a real gamer
>>565766580no, he preferrs constant death spiral loops and having 0 reinforcements on pubs cuz nobody plays the cleanup janny role
>>565766852The lib conc and pummeler are better as CC guns because they also push enemies back, giving you better time to reload or do whatever.Also the pacifiers stun is just really short and slow to proc.
RR isn't OP more weapons need to be on its level
>>565766205>>MG and gatling sentrybut /hdg/ told me those were literally useless now
>>565766261>one primary nobody uses>one throwable nobody uses>armor passive nobody uses>booster nobody usesStratagems and patterns are the only reason to get it.
>>565766560pug stands for Pick Up Group and refers to playing with randos. I guess I'm just unc. The kids these days say pubs, which I guess stands for public? I dunno.
>>565757380>one shot to impaler forehead>blows out charger ass in one>strip charger leg in one>potential one shot on warstriders and hulks>total gunship rape>wont kill yourself with itI love it.
Mech with a giant chainsaw and a grenade launcher when?
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