Whoops, I fucked the OP up a little bit

>>565708945
Yes, by making it for a dead game

Sarah's bare breasts

X-Tech seems to have some reality warping properties to it

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Maybe I can help you with that. :3

Paradiso needs tropical background music whenever you're there instead of just playing Starfied's default ambient music

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>can put fuckhueg drum mags on 4 pistols
>can only make 1 of them full auto

>>565710621
what do you mean by that

>>565710621
elaborate on that

>>565710621
Barrett theorizes it to be an alloy from an extra dimension, kind of like Caelumite that you find around artifacts.

>>565712968
>>565713396
Nothing too crazy, it's just capable of breaking the limits on weapons, armors and ships, and bestowing feats that would ordinarily be impossible to do with any other tech in the game. I mean one of the jetpack skills it gives effectively allows the player to boost in the air indefinitely, as well as gives the player some kind of blocky blue glow when boosting that looks reminiscent of the stuff seen surrounding the artifacts that you have to break away.

>>565714276
>kind of like Caelumite that you find around artifacts.
Thank you, I was trying to remember what the name of those things were. Makes me wonder if the Starborn DLC will explain all of these things

>>565710621
Yeah, it's basically space-magic. There's mention of the armada using it for FTL communication to command the robot army. No real sciency explanation is given as to what it really is or how it can be used for so many different things like upgrading guns/gear/ships/robots.

>>565714478
At the end of the Terran Armada questline, Barrett says that X-tech is similar to the artifacts, and likely comes from outside the universe. Which would explain why it can do what it does.

>>565683275
Anchorpoint is in the Free Lanes update and can be visited any time. The Terran Armada questline is based out of it, and that's the part that is recommended level 50+. But if you really wanted to, I think you could do it right at the beginning and probably blast through a bunch of early levels.

>>565696982
The actual Terran Armada is a group of humans who broke off from the UC and FC during the war. They seem to be a smaller group, but large enough to have a "civilian" population around which the main moral choice ending centers (which is pretty half-baked and forced if you ask me, as the only "civilian" you see is a dead scientist who probably would've shot at you if you found sooner) At some point, they built a robot army, which is most of the actual enemies you fight.

>>565715592
the way u insert delta as a disk into the robo frame makes me think they are copies of humans like in soma tho.

also fuck me the dlc is boring. feels like im back grinding fallout 76 expeditions for a morsel of story

>>565693250
>Things with intelligence that have no real gender are often described as "they" since "they" is the best non gendered term we have in the English language.
"They" implies personhood. I have never IRL heard anyone use "they" for a robot. People say "it". It feels very strange listening to the VOID members simultaneously be skeptical of Delta as a truly sapient being but then also use "they" instead of "it". And Delta has a very masculine voice and personality, so IMO most people would say "he" instead of "they" (and there is even one instance in the dialogue of someone calling Delta a "he" that was probably an accident in the script).

I don't really care and am mostly unbothered by it, but saying that the whole "they" thing isn't obviously forced "inclusive" language is disingenuous.

>>565716345
don't respond to it

>>565716345
>I have never IRL heard anyone use "they" for a robot. People say "it".
Robots IRL have no actual intelligence. And thus generally wouldn't qualify as a "they". "It" is used for objects, which IRL robots are since they are unintelligent. Even then, people do refer to unintelligent items with phrases like "he", "she", or "they" as a personification of that object. Like how sailors, pilots, or drivers, refer to their ships/planes/cars using female terms.

>>565715592
No, the guy you find dead with Roxanne is a janitor, not a scientist, and he was running away from a Terran robot she set rogue before getting shot down and killed.

>>565715592
>They seem to be a smaller group, but large enough to have a "civilian" population around
During the companions covnersations with Barrett and Andreja they mention that we only really encotuered the "warmonger" part of the Terran Armada, and hope that its possible to make peace with the other part of the Armada that didn't show up.

>>565717058
Meanwhile, Sam Coe says he’d genocide them twice if he could. He’d kill a million terrans, innocent or not, to make sure Cora isn’t harmed in the future. That was cold of him to say, I legit didn’t expect it from him.

>>565717058
I really expected to be able to visit the Armada's base or a settlement to side with them, especially when the whole civilian thing came up. But then they pulled another House Va'ruun. I wonder if they'll get a real settlement later on.

>>565717276
I find most of the Constellation reactions to events to be pretty schizophrenic. They all feel like they were written to have the same basic values, and then Bethesda just forced them to have different likes/dislikes to flex the affinity system.

>>565717557
>I really expected to be able to visit the Armada's base or a settlement to side with them
I didn't. It makes no sense that the Terran Armada would let you side with them.
> But then they pulled another House Va'ruun.
What do you mean? House Va'ruun does let you side with them in Shattered Space?

>>565717557
>I find most of the Constellation reactions to events to be pretty schizophrenic. They all feel like they were written to have the same basic values, and then Bethesda just forced them to have different likes/dislikes to flex the affinity system.
Not him, but I find that funny given that they all share the same reactions to the Vanguard, Crimson Fleet, Ryujin, Freestar Rangers, and Shattered Space, questlines.

Even then, the only thing they really agree on is basic shit like "murder and theft bad" that any functioning human with a bare bones moral compass would agree with,

>Game starts crashing on landing on planets
>Fuck with mods
>Fuck with settings
>Fuck with stuff in game
>Still happens
>Go back to earlier save
>Everything seems okay
>After a few hours, starts crashing on landing again
For fuck sake, whats going on? I can't figure this out. The only thing I've noticed is it only starts happening after I try to visit Shoza II for a Watchtower listening post, but I don't know that its not a coincidence, because I have done other watchtowers prior to this one just fine, but after visiting Shoza II, it starts happening wherever I go.

>>565718365
Shoza II get used for a quest in Free Lanes. Watchtower could be causing a conflict if it isn't fully updates, or Shittath updated it wrong.

>>565718519
Jesus Christ 1000 planets and this shit fucking happens
I hate this game, I really fucking do.

>>565718365
How many mods do you have? Starfield starts to have issues like this when you have too many. Also, try flying to Venus and rest for 72 hours to allow cells to reset a few times.

>>565719289
I forgot to mention to also make a full save and relaunch after you do the 72 hours thing. Do not rely on quick, auto and exit saves too much as they don't clear scripts properly, leading to issues.

>>565719289
124 mods, mostly cosmetic. I try not to get mods that change anything too heavy to the game, apart from maybe adding multiple companions and things like that.

>>565719465
I'll give this a try

>>565719586
>124 mods, mostly cosmetic.
Seems like you might be below the reference handle cap issue, though you might still have issues if those cosmetic mods add a ton of BA2 archives, then you would need to start extracting them with BAE or something.

>>565719167
Using Watchtower is basically asking for your game to get fucked. Its the same issue with Sim Settlements in Fallout 4. They are game nukes.

>>565719465
Gave it a shot. Tried to land on Paradiso but got a crash.
I've never had this issue with Watchtower before, have been able to grind the outposts to completion multiple times.

>>565721894
Alright, try doing the following:
1. Use the following console command in your saved game and see if you can enter Paradiso without the game crashing. If it doesn't crash, then the issue might be something at the entrance, or something going wrong with your ship : coc ParadisoHotelExt01
2. Temporarily disable all your mods and try to land on Paradiso. If it doesn't crash, then the issue is one or more of your mods.
3. Exit your game and start from the main menu (don't load your save just yet) and enter that same console command above. If the game crashes, then it's an issue with one of your mods. If it doesn't crash, then your save might be bugged

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>>565721894
>Try again, going to Venus, waiting four Venusian days, and doing a full save
>Go to another system
>Theres some spacers and they are pic-related
>Can't hit them as they have no hitbox
okay then
>Jump to Shoza
>More spacers
>They're all visible, but the Freestar ship fighting alongside us is also pic-related
>Another Spacer jumps in, invisible and can't be hit
>Reload last auto-save
>Game crashes
Neat

>>565723548
Sigh, I gotta get to bed for work tomorrow. But I'll save this post and give it a shot when I have time...

>>565723548
>1. Use the following console command in your saved game and see if you can enter Paradiso without the game crashing. If it doesn't crash, then the issue might be something at the entrance, or something going wrong with your ship : coc ParadisoHotelExt01
Fuck it, gave it a try
Crashed

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>>565723548
Okay so I followed the rest of your instructions (Thank you, btw)
1. Crashed after console command
2. Disabled all Creations (would've disabled the few broader Nexus mods in Vortex but) the game seemed to work fine. Was able to land at Paradiso and Shoza II without issue, except not being able to exit the ship due to the landing bay being from a mod, lol
3. Loaded into a Paradiso POI no problem.
So we think a mod or a bugged save? I don't think I have it in me to go through all the mods to figure out which one is bugged and figure out what to do about it.

>>565726504
Definitely sounds like a mod issue. You can just enable groups of mods to pinpoint the culprit fast. Since you have 124 mods, do something like enabling the first 50 and see if it crashes again. If not, enable the next 50 and so forth, then within whichever group has the crash, disable like half of them, and then you just keep going for smaller and smaller groups until you find the mod or two causing the problem.

the terran armada captain's dialog basically confirm my suspiction that starfield's setting is a dystopia

Today, after changing absolutely nothing, my saves started being marked with [C] despite having baka achievement enabler and it working just fine when I got an achievement two days ago.

>>565730025
That means a cantaloupe died in your save

are any of the terran armada side quests worth doing? thinking im finally done with this game

>>565730025
Forgot to use sfse?

>>565731531
Yeah MO2 defaulted to regular starfield for some reason and I didn't catch it until I relaunched the game to see if it cleared the marker. Can't trust nothing these days

>>565727821
So now I'm just confused...
I went through, enabling mods 50 at a time, each time able to land on Shoza II no problem (all on the modless save). I decide to load back to the earlier modded save before I disabled mods, and tried to land on Shoza. It worked!
But my ship was still missing loads of modules for some reason, so I decided to jump to Stardock. I jumped to a planet in the Piazzi system, tried to go into Cruise Mode, only to realise it wasn't avaible. I guess I disabled the Free Lanes mod? But.. its not a creation? And I don't know how to reenable it?
I tried to jump to Stardock, got attacked by pirates, tried to load the modless save, and the game crashed.

>>565733232
Okay well... disabled all mods again to repeat the test with an earlier modded save and.. it crashed while checking off mods too activate in the Creation menu... so... hm.

>>565733232
You're not using the built in mod manager are you?
>>565734126
>checking off mods too activate in the Creation menu
oh dear.

>>565734838
Could you be more helpful, maybe?

>>565733232
Probably something weird happened with Vortex. Unfortunately I don't know what went wrong on your end as I use MO2 myself.

>>565734126
>>565733232
>Enabled the last 25 mods in the list
>Crashes landing on Shoza
>Disable the last 25 mods
>Still crashes when landing on Shoza
For fuck sake.

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>>565736901
Alright, the last thing I tried before quitting for tonight was to land in the original, unmodified Frontier on Shoza II. It worked.
So my theory is something about my heavily modded ship isn't playing nice. I have no idea what, but I'm just going to scrap it and build a whole new ship and hopefully no encounter the same issue that makes loading this thing into landing a huge issue.

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>>565730156
>cantaloupe

>>565738107
Man shut the fuck up already

>>565738318
Don't be rude, anon

>>565738401
He needs to fix his game instead of blogging about it and shitting up the thread.

>>565739362
Best he shares his findings in case you or anyone else in here comes across the same issue.

>>565739794
I'm not stupid enough to fuck my game up this bad

>>565739874
Bethesda is the Murphy's law of video game companies, and Starfield is arguably one of the easiest games to break right now considering how it was designed and the way it gets officially supported. You're almost guaranteed to find a way to royally fuck it up by accident at some point

I never realized brake engines actually flared when you slowed down, they should have actually functional too

just got this game on ps5. should i do traits? they all seem like shit to me?

>>565738107
ship mods always fuck me over

>vendors sell a few hundred rounds for any given ammo type
>a terran incursion requires at least 3 times as much ammo to clear
>any monetary reward is eaten up by ammo costs

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>>565747229
>doesnt use 7.77 or 3k laser gun
infinite ammo

>>565747409
my strongest gun by far uses 3kv and it's been dry for hours, these terran cunts keep dropping 1.5kv and I'm stucking using a dogfight that I have 2.2k reserve ammo for

I kinda want someone to mod Elizabeth Comstock and Liara into this game

>>565747229
fists don't use ammo

>>565717683
>It makes no sense that the Terran Armada would let you side with them.
Why not? You can side with the Crimson Fleet and restart the Serpent's Crusade in Shattered Space. Why not let me wage war on the settled systems from alongside one more faction?
>What do you mean? House Va'ruun does let you side with them in Shattered Space?
I was referring to the base game, where there's all this stuff about House Va'ruun and then you didn't get to visit them at all. Even the guy in the embassy during the Vanguard questline was just like
>Oh, they all left me here alone with the weird tree taking over the building and killer robots I can't turn off and I can't tell you why.
This was then remedied by them releasing a DLC to fully flesh out House Va'ruun, who a lot of people initially labeled as "cut content". I'm just wondering if they might have a similar plan with the Terran Armada, but I'm also expecting not.

>>565750884
>I'm just wondering if they might have a similar plan with the Terran Armada, but I'm also expecting not.
Only two DLC I expect for Starfield at this point are
1. A outpost.colony focused DLC with a questline focused around some of the smaller groups like LIST, the Trade authority, and Argos
2. A Starborn questline expanding on the artifacts, Temples, powers, Unity, Sebastion Banks, etc. etc.
Those are the last two big gaps in Starfield's setting

>Why not? You can side with the Crimson Fleet and restart the Serpent's Crusade in Shattered Space. Why not let me wage war on the settled systems from alongside one more faction?
The big difference is that the Crimson Fleet is explicitly called out to be a minor nuisance, which is why the UC is hesitant to give Ikande more manpower. Even if they get the money at the end of the questline, its going to be years before Delgado can actually organize the Crimson Fleet into a organized power that has real pull in the Settled Systems. Likewise, House Va'ruun got so fucked by the Dazra explosion that restarting the crusade means very little in the near term, just a few raids on passing space ships that doesn't affect the Setteled systems much. The Terran Armada is another beast entirely. They are formed of two, war time, fully manned/stocked up, fleets of ships + all the shit they built in the last 20 years. Actually siding with the Terran Armada would necessitate too much in the way of large scale changes to the rest of the game for any DLC to realistically cover. Also, the Terran Armada has no reason to see anyone outside of their organization as anything but part of the "problem" they are trying to solve

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TankGirl's Biome Jars mod has got me thinking something. Since simulation technology exists in Starfield, it might be neat to have simulation rooms that mimics a few old Earth locations both as a place to relax and as a place to learn a few things. It could have a few enclosed hubs on sandy beaches, in the amazon rain forest, and scenic views of some major cities like New York, Paris, and Tokyo.

>>565751658
>A outpost.colony focused DLC with a questline focused around some of the smaller groups like LIST, the Trade authority, and Argos
God I fucking wish. I have no interest in the Starborn or Unity or whatever, but I love all those little Civilian groups and wish we got more quests for them, especially if they'd bring back the settlement features from fallut 4 for a LIST questline

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>>565748291
my boi everyone sells 3k lol just crank up the vendor credits and by it from *literally* everyone whenever ur at a settlement

also check out zosma v-a, its nice if you like bugs picrel

>headshot mod
>slow time mod
>1911
it's gaming time

>>565743048
Yes, you should, they give depth to your character.

If your character is a criminal, I recommend Wanted, at least.
If your character isn’t one, I recommend: UC Native, Raised Universal, and Kid Stuff.

The /ck/ portion of this game would be a lot more interesting and handy if you didn't need to eat enough food to make The Whale blush for just a quarter of health.

page 1? that’s insane.

ANOTHER TALE
FROM THE STARFIELD

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>Rebuild my ship from scratch
>Add in stealth module
>Try out stealth module
>Game crashes
For fuck sake

>>565779039
looks really good though are those parts from mod?

>>565779439
Yeah, mostly that ASC Deimos one or whatever it was called. I have my merc a love of space hot rods, so trying to create that idea. An exposed front end with greebles, engine details and some actual thrusters, with a huge engine in back. Sort of like a space batmobile.
Anyway, something in there isn't gelling with the stealth module and I wonder if it's the same thing that was crashing my game trying to land on planets.
Any what. I'm at work now. Will have to wait.

In the case of a mod existing on both Nexus and Creations, which should I favor? I use Creations primarily and then Vortex to manage the more fundamental stuff like sfse. But I'm wondering if I should do most everything in Vortex to have a bit more control.

If I do switch over, what's the most efficient, cleanest way to switch mods? Delete in Creations first, or will downloading the Nexus version through Vortex overwrite the Creations version?

time for another glorious day of playing Todd Howard's The Starfield™

>>565779039
>All that merging and clipping
I'm not surprised your shit bucket is crashing your game. It looks like a bunch of shit mushed together into nothing. At least add some fucking color

terrormorphs are the coolest enemy bethesda ever made

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May the 4th be with you, /stag/!

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>>565786797
Why don't they ever do this to the humans? I wanna see someone's insides get pulled out their mouth

>>565786797
Why does it kill that thing and not even eat it?

>>565787153
just a bit of banter

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Star Wars vehicle mod got updated today, looks like it now has proper seating animations
https://www.nexusmods.com/starfield/mods/12475

>>565787153
thet're like xenomorph, they just wanna murderstabkill everything in sight

>>565786585
they have no visual identity and look too much like to ai generated animals in the game

>>565786585
conceptually maybe, visual wise they're just alright

>>565786708
KOO NI TANG

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Anyone knows how to reliably spawn high-level civilian ships to board and steal to sell them for six-figures? I lucked out by running into a miner in a Lvl 64 Autobahn III being escorted by Freestar Security, and I was able to attack them via dialogue with ZERO bounty and NO bitching from the constellation companions.

Other time I managed to do so was with a lone UC Chimera, but I still got a bounty and the constellation companions bitching about my morally grey ways.

>>565788220
I saw tons of terrormorphs before the Vanguard quest line and literally didn't know what I was looking at. It was a thing with legs. Like all the other things with legs in this game. I didn't even get a good look at one till the Vanguard museum bit and that's the first time I clocked that it had extra arms. It's a dumb nothing design despite that it's trying to be everything.

>>565788220
>ai generated animals in the game
I got the art book, and they talk about how they brute forced the creation of alien species rather than using a Spore like proc gen system. They had some constraints around skeleton, which is why you'll see a repeated theme of little flyer, big flyer, dog, bug, dinosaur, and so on, but each one was hand crafted. I started going out of my way to really inspect and look at them in-game once I read that, and I can see it now, a lot of them are pretty creative and well made, and there's even a sense of evolutionary tie-in between them on the same planet. It's one area of many where the game really lacks a serious codex that exposes some of the lore and some of the things that they actually did a good job with. When you scan these things you should be getting bits of fluff text and lore, a 3D model viewer and so on. There's just none of that. There are a lot of places where Bethesda legitimately did a good job and there's just no effort spent highlighting that or bringing it to the player, so all you ever really see is repetitive POI dungeon spam.

>>565787697
Oh shit, motorcycles are possible now, sick

>>565782782
>In the case of a mod existing on both Nexus and Creations, which should I favor?
Creations. Nexus needs to become a last resort.

>>565805750
The scanner is the problem. You don't even see the creatures when you're using it, you just see blue blobs that turn green when you click on them. It might as well be a shovelware Atari game. Not even a specific problem to Starfield, as lots of AAA like to use batman vision modes to paper over unreadable cluttered visuals. But it defeats the whole point of having all that detail.
If it were up to me, I'd use anything but the scanner system to survey. Bioshock's camera research system would work better. Or just a hand scanner or darts or collecting samples or something, anything but the blue blobs press E simulator.

>>565805750
feels like beating a dead horse but problem is bethesda's fratclub aren't interested in proper world building. a codex means you have to think about why the ecosystem is the way it is. why cultures exist the way they do. the setting isnt made for that,no bethesda game really is. i tend to think when there are hints of greatness they are the acts of rogue developers such as the quest where you decide between migrating aceles populations to cull the heatleech populations quest. or the occasional hints that there are people domesticating wildlife, meaning people aren't actually just eating goyslop cubes for their diet.

>wife
>2 kids
>mortgages
>play in 1 hour intervals every other day
>game is modded to hell for difficulty and survival
>planning for and finishing a mission takes a week
i may have bitten off more than i can masticate

>>565812347
familiar but I still think the autistic survival shit really improves the game somehow.

>tfw semi trapped in Akila because my ship is infested with heatleeches and I refuse to pay the ship tech's exorbitant prices to fix it
>general store doesn't sell enough toxin to treat it myself so considering foraging outside the walls
>last time I jumped anyway tons of heatleeches started coming out of the walls and they killed my generic fusion specialist

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>>565814275
>THEY'RE COMIN OUTTA THE GODDAMN WALLS

>>565797264
Please respond

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French

>>565820726
No clue how to spawn ships period, let alone specific brands or levels of ship. Like everything else they're probably leveled, so just being high level yourself and jacking people around Jemison is the only thing that comes to mind.

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>>565822015

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>>565748312
based

>>565748291
>I'm stucking using a dogfight
by far the best gun

i just started playing again but i have some memory of stealing a decent shotgun from somewhere in Neon, am i misrememering or just missing the weapon?

I don't know what I had to do to keep shane weyland alive but I didn't do it. RIP

Do the stabilized/mag assisted gun parts even do anything? I genuinely can't tell if they're working or not.

>>565808919
Why

Is there a twi'lek pleasure slave mod yet? Trying to celebrate star wars day

>>565827683
Because a small clique of reddit moderators having a stranglehold on what you can and can't do in modding is an intolerable, unsustainable problem. The Nexus of 2011 was much better than Bethesda's platform, but a relatively hands-off corporate laziness platform is head and shoulders better than the Nexus of today.

>>565828774
the issue is its impossible to wade through the shit cuz next to no filters and only paid content is promoted

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>>565828584
Probably not, but you can do what I did: Download the Star Wars races and player mod, design yourself to look like an alien, use Chargen Menu to save it as a preset, then use NPC Enhancer Gun to apply the look on a female follower. If you don't want to replace any existing characters, you can either apply it to one of the crew specialists, or download a female follower mod to apply it to.

>>565831204
*Star Wars races "or" player mod. I used the player one myself to avoid having those alien npcs appear outside of the Tatooine world space.

>>565810379
>the setting isnt made for that,no bethesda game really is.
I always find this funny when video exist showing that Bethesda went through and made sure every river has a proper source and flow in Skyrim, and someone did a geological survey of Skyrim and tracked the locations of where ore nodes were, and they matched with where they should IRL. Not only that, but they called up and asked Bethesda if they hired someone to make sure it was accurate, and they said no, they just had their people do some research and do it.

Even for Starfield there's like a dozen videos about tiny, autistic, details Bethesda put into the design of towns, and industry, to make sure it actually functions somewhat realistically. Bethesda is THE company for stupid level of detail in their simulated worlds.

>>565831204
>>565831360
Thanks for the tips. I'll try it out. Maybe I should have asked yesterday so I'd have time to make her before today

>>565822471
Jemison? No way. I might have better luck with Deimos Staryard, I can sometimes attempt to pirate a ship, and most of them will fight back. If it’s a UC ship, all UC ships will attack. If it’s a FC ship, all FC ships will attack, and the bounty is negligible. However, if I dare visit Jemison or Akila or Volii Alpha space, all the FC ships will still be hostile despite paying off my bounty, and destroying them then causes the exorbitant 15k bounties to pop up.

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I made you some “chicken” (sourced from artificially-flavored gelatin-soi cubes) tikka marsala over genetically modified rice, guys. Come dig in!

>>565832680
I hope that's gravy

>>565719289
Nearly 30 years since Morrowind and you still have to do this dumb fucking trick to stop hard crashes in Bethesda games.

>>565832775
if you consider artificially-flavored margarine cooked with spice and gmo veggies “gravy/curry”, then yes, it is.

>>565832980
You think that’s a bad thing, I think it’s a good thing, meaning all the bandaid solutions to Bugthesda’s magical bugs are all relatively the same.

>>565831391
That's why I said basically rogue developers do all the good work. There is no cohesive narrative direction or world design which would be the result of someone with a solid understanding of all the different factors of society and its systems leading the project and helping shape creative vision between the team. Instead the result is a chaotic mess with occasional good parts that happen semi randomly.

>>565833587
>There is no cohesive narrative direction or world design
I mean there is. In the sense that different towns, on different planets, look different for the same reason different towns, in different parts of the world, look different.

There is not a single, "cohesive" direction or design across Earth, so why would there be across space? What you are asking for here is the most unrealistic, and obviously artificial, world design.

>>565834132
>What you are asking for here is the most unrealistic, and obviously artificial, world design.
More unrealistic than robots with "They/Them" pronouns?

>>565834476
Ohh, its this retard again.

>>565834656
>retard
Said by the guy who claims Fallout 3 has 200 endings and that Battle of Niira didn't happen and that UC doesn't feed its citizens propaganda.

>>565834767
>Said by the guy who claims Fallout 3 has 200 endings
It technically does.
>and that Battle of Niira didn't happen
No one said this.
>and that UC doesn't feed its citizens propaganda.
This is also not what was said.

Gotta love retards, they can't read, they can't remember things, they can't do anything but flail about.

Endor is here!
https://www.nexusmods.com/starfield/mods/16955

>>565808919
This
I ran everything off nexus before except a few paid creations and always had bugs in my games. Getting locked out of the key, no vendors in jemison interact with you, ship parts missing, etc. Since I download everything on creations except sfse and achievement enabler my game has never run smother and with no bugs since I played vanilla before creations came out.

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>>565835470
>It technically does.
List the first 10 endings.
>No one said this.
You did.
You lost again tranny. >>565197653
>This is also not what was said.
And again >>565622947

It's so easy to track down your posts because you write like a more retarded version of chatgpt. Meaning, your hallucinated answers are so easily disproven I can just google pictures from the game yet you try to fight against gravity just like when a chatbot when it doesn't realize it's hallucinating.

>>565836005
You really are illiterate aren't you?
>You did.
>You lost again tranny
The thing you quoted here isn't saying the Battle of Niira didn't happen.
>And again
The thing you quoted here isn't saying the UC never uses propaganda.
>List the first 10 endings.
https://fallout.fandom.com/wiki/Fallout_3_endings
Take every single ending slide, and consider every single possible combination of those slides.

>It's so easy to track down your posts because you write like a more retarded version of chatgpt. Meaning, your hallucinated answers are so easily disproven I can just google pictures from the game yet you try to fight against gravity just like when a chatbot when it doesn't realize it's hallucinating.
The irony

Has anyone tried Darkstar NGO and have an opinion on it?

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>>565836473
>The thing you quoted here isn't saying the Battle of Niira didn't happen.
You claimed it happened differently than how it happened according to the evidence presented by the game.
>The thing you quoted here isn't saying the UC never uses propaganda.
>"UC is committing atrocities, and feeding everyone propaganda, is just... made up entirely."
Madam, if you would, consult the images provided.
>Take every single ending slide, and consider every single possible combination of those slides.

1. Ending where you destroy the purifier.
2. Ending where fawkes destroys the purifier.
3. Ending where you inject FEV into the purifier.

Start listing the endings from 4. onwards, ma'am.

>The irony
List even one thing I have been mistaken about in my post history. It should be easy considering how easy it is for me to track down your increasing list of facts you keep getting wrong. Such as the UC not using propaganda which I noticed you tried to drop from the convo. Not going to be so easy for you ma'am.

>>565837182
>List even one thing I have been mistaken about in my post history
-You're wrong about Fallout 3 not having 200 endings when it does.
-You were wrong about me claiming the Battle of Niira didn't happen, and when I showed that I never claimed it didn't, you immediatly goalpost moved from saying I said it didn't happen at all to now saying I didn't say it happened the way the game describes it. A backpedal you'd only have to do if you knew you were wrong.
-You're also wrong in your claim about what I said about propaganda. If you actually read, which I know is hard for saars like yourself, the conversation that started that whole line of argument was you claiming they feed people propaganda while committing mass atrocities. It was a two part statement, and my comment was made to the overall statement, not just the singular part you are now selectively focusing on.

You're so fucking bad at this its crazy. I think actual 5th graders could point out the errors, and fallacies, in your arguments so far. You would fail the "Are you smarter than a 5th grader" show.

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>>565831391
New Atlantis is running on hydro power from a still lake with no flowing river.

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>Ewoks are hostile
Didn't expect that

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>>565837182
>-You're wrong about Fallout 3 not having 200 endings when it does.
"no u" is not a good enough answer
>-You were wrong about me claiming the Battle of Niira didn't happen,
you claimed it did not happen as it was presented by the game, that it was "exaggarated" . You lost tranny.

>If you actually read, which I know is hard for saars like yourself, the conversation that started that whole line of argument was you claiming they feed people propaganda while committing mass atrocities. It was a two part statement, and my comment was made to the overall statement, not just the singular part you are now selectively focusing on.
>"Any idea that the UC is committing atrocities, and feeding everyone propaganda, is just... made up entirely."
It's hard to look at your own retardation in the face isn't it? You blurted that one out and now it's like trying to fight gravity, when I can just keep posting the screenshots is hilarious. Also they are feeding you propaganda, and they are committing mass atrocities. And no they didn't "execute" the guy because the fall guy they set up is still alive. It's just because you are confounded by 5th grader writing nuance ie. not spelling everything out in plain text that you think UC aren't a soft-dystopian, propagandist state.

>>565838470
>>565837649
Also, where are the remaining 197 endings? I'm still waiting for at least the 7, should be easy to come up with no? Or is your brain still fried from trying to explain why a robot with a masculine voice has gender neutral pronouns when the rest of the robots don't.

I love Sarah. I love the United Colonies.

Sarah Morgan is virtually guaranteed to have pussy hair unfortunately

>>565838282
>"no u" is not a good enough answer
If you were literate its been explained multiple times where the 200 number comes from. Maybe they should teach you a bit more about the English language in India.
>you claimed it did not happen as it was presented by the game, that it was "exaggarated" . You lost tranny.
I made so such claim. I claimed your exaggeration of it was inaccurate.
> and they are committing mass atrocities
Name one mass atrocity the UV has committed since the end of the war? Hell, name one it actually committed during the war? Vae Victus' targeting of Londinion, and the attack on the civilian fleet of the FC, where choices he made himself, not orders of the UC. So go ahead, name one actual mass atrocity they committed.
>And no they didn't "execute" the guy because the fall guy they set up is still alive.
I specifically pointed out several times he was alone. Again saar, you should learn how to read.

>>565839209
Didn't say any of that you retarded african.

>>565838942
>unfortunately
Very brave of you to announce your homosexuality ITT, anon.

>>565838727
Sarah is the worst companion.

>>565838632
>Or is your brain still fried from trying to explain why a robot with a masculine voice has gender neutral pronouns when the rest of the robots don't.
This was already explained you room temp IQ sub-human.

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>>565838942
>unfortunately

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>>565838942
>unfortunately

>>565838942
This is something a pedo would say.

>>565838942
>they hated him because he spoke the truth.jpg

>>565840000
fucking digits wasted on bullshit

>>565839209
>If you were literate its been explained multiple times where the 200 number comes from
you said that number comes from 200 different endings, we in the real world know what an ending means and don't get baited by todd's 60 IQ marketing speeches for retarded E3 audiences, and now you're basically dying on this hill while already dodging instant game over suicide by every time you try to put facts down in this argument which so far you keep dodging out of, because you know a single mistake leads to instant suicide considering the web of hallucinations youre creating for yourself
>I claimed your exaggeration of it was inaccurate.
which parts were exaggarated? i am pretty sure i understand how the battle went, and i can pretty much guarantee xenomorphs+gas attacks+walking mechs is not an exaggaration in comparison. care to explain which part of that is an exaggaration?
>Name one mass atrocity the UV has committed since the end of the war
You're hallucinating again. Nobody was talking about post-war
>Vae Victus' targeting of Londinion, and the attack on the civilian fleet of the FC, where choices he made himself, not orders of the UC
Nice attempt at poisoning the well tranny but you need to try better.
>where choices he made himself, not orders of the UC
Yes, if you believe UC propaganda. Which you claimed doesn't exist. Also the captains of the UC aren't required to follow his orders if the orders are unlawful, if UC wasn't a soft-dystopian state which controls the narrative by propaganda. You can't answer why the FC sued for peace after supposedly routing the UC fleet after the battle of cheyenne because you presume the UC version of the battle is what actually happened, and that the UC fleet was routed because of their civilian fleets, yet in reality FC has a charter enabling essentially pressing into service any civilians deemed necessary for warfare.
>I specifically pointed out several times he was alone
You claimed he was executed, but forgot he wasnt

>>565840370
Just don't be incorrect and you'll get them one day.

Andreja giving her special training to Cora.

>>565839535
>This was already explained you room temp IQ sub-human.
TL: you tried to "explain" it to yourself but your hallucinations didn't pass the smell test beyond convincing yourself that your own hallucination are true. such as when you tried to retroactively "bundle" your claim about UC not using propaganda because once again you hallucinated something about the game's actual events

>>565840526
>just be gay
No thanks.

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>>565840580
>>565840372
>>565839209
BTW, in this setting where UC/FC aren't secretly plotting behind closed doors, there exists a breakway faction consisting of mutineers from BOTH SIDES of the war which band together to throw men and material at causing damage to both governments because........................ Because....... They're mad at their pension and... I guess because they're emo?

>>565840580
This has nothing to do with the comment you quoted, which was about why Delta is addressed they way they are. You're actually just going full schizo now.

>>565840372
> we in the real world know what an ending mean
Apparently you don't.
>You're hallucinating again. Nobody was talking about post-war
You gave no specific timeframe for your comments about them committing atrocities.
>Nice attempt at poisoning the well
This isn't what poisoning the well is retard.
>Yes, if you believe UC propaganda. Which you claimed doesn't exist.
This is also not what I said.
>Also the captains of the UC aren't required to follow his orders if the orders are unlawful
You do not know this since they never get into detail about how the law works in the UC navy.
>You can't answer why the FC sued for peace after supposedly routing the UC fleet after the battle of cheyenne because you presume the UC version of the battle is what actually happened
The problem with this argument is that this is what the FC themselves say happened. this isn't just the UC's version of events.
>You claimed he was executed, but forgot he wasnt
Also untrue. If you actually go back and re-read that whole conversation, not that I think you could due to staggering illiteracy, I specifically pointed out his execution was faked later in the conversation.

>>565841002
It's explicitly explained in the slates you can find that Admiral Balewa didn't believe any peace between the UC and FC would last since it was built on mutual mistrust, and that the only way to bring real peace was to either conquer both factions, and unite them under a new banner not built on that past, or force them to ally against a common threat.

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>>565841630
Except that ignores everything she's telling you. I guess she's just lying to you for fun and being a little chud for fun.

Also, nothing to see here. Just an ordinary democratic society founded on trust in the government and individualistic values, and doing a bit of dirty work killing secularists and any civilians associated with them and lying about it. I mean keeping it secret.

>>565842031
>Except that ignores everything she's telling you.
This only works if you assume she is accurate. The game makes it clear she has a massive hate boner against both the UC and FC, to an irrational degree. Even to the point that the other person who founded the Terran Armada with her thinks shes overboard and stayed out of the attack.

>and doing a bit of dirty work killing secularists and any civilians associated with them and lying about it.
Do you know what a secularist is? A secularist is someone who believes in the strict separation of religion and state. Neither the UC or FC are shown to have a state mandated religion, nor are they shown killing anyone who believes in strict separation of church and state. They also don't kill any civilians during the questline. The only people who kill civilians are
A. The robot lady when she reprograms the robots in that one base
B. The player if they chose to reprogram all the robots to kill everyone around them at the end of the DLC.

Is there a type of weapon CombaTech WON'T make?

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>>565842715
>The game makes it clear she has a massive hate boner against both the UC and FC, to an irrational degree
so everyone behind her is just in it for lulz, knowing they are taking on a coalition consisitng of the 2 most powerful factions and their allies, basically dying for nothing
>also don't kill any civilians during the questline. The only people who kill civilians are
yeah they don't tell the gun for hire taht the glowies are sponsoring mass murder but this is the thing you don't get retard, them spelling it out in your face is not a requirement, when they already admit they do not differentiate between civvies aiding terrans and valid military targets. also don't make the retarded redditor mistake and assume the game doesn't have scale beyond what is represented by the in game scenes. but you are already doing that since you don't realize events happen behind closed doors that are not conveyed to the player, and that events also happen which the setting gives to you at face value and you're allowed to think for yourself what is and isnt the actual truth in a setting that plays with the idea of dystopianism and propaganda

>>565842879
A good one.

>>565843494
>so everyone behind her is just in it for lulz, knowing they are taking on a coalition consisitng of the 2 most powerful factions and their allies, basically dying for nothing
No, they believe she is trying to unite the UC and FC under one flag, or unite them by creating a common enemy.
>but you are already doing that since you don't realize events happen behind closed doors that are not conveyed to the player
I never said, or implied this. You are actually just going pure schizo at this point.

It seems weird that the UC and FC are supposedly restricted to just a few systems and yet I see their soldiers, ships, facilities, etc. in a hundred systems

>>565844082
All of that was from the war, you know, the war that started over the UC accusing the FC of violating the treaty over system limitations?

>>565844443
ships and soldiers aren't setting up colonies, but doing police actions against shit like spacers, the fleet, House Va'ruun etc. etc.

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>find abandoned/trashed LIST farm
>dataslates tell the story of how the family set up their homestead
>one by one they all started hearing voices and disappearing
>after reading the last terminal, a wall opens onto a hidden cave with some fuck-off powerful terrormorph living in it
>running battle ensues through the installation
>kill it
>find the bodies of the family in the beast's lair
>leave the place
>load in outside
>two more terrormorphs sitting on a hill across the way, staring at me
ok that was fucking spooky

>>565844853
is that a new unique POI?

i rmember the cooleset one of those being the "abandoned" space station

>>565845315
that was in at launch, I remember finding that one too

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>no good alien mods
>no good event horizon mods
>no good riddick mods
i guess the stargate mod is pretty cool...

>>565849571
Which moon is this?

>>565849856
Still no Buckees in space mod, this timeline is suffering.

>>565849571
https://www.nexusmods.com/starfield/mods/14646

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>>565850954
tau ceti viii-b

>hit lv30
>game feels too easy now
The fuck

Those new Star Wars mods did a number on my game with a bunch of buildings and even parts of my ship disappearing. Sadly this is an engine limitation issue that for now can only be mitigated by removing some other mods. Bethesda really needs to get around to fixing this shit.

>>565855264
Felt the same when I got eternity's gate. I have been one shotting almost everything for 25 levels now

>>565855369
Does starfield not have light masters like Skyrim where you can potentially have 8000 mods?

>>565856357
It does, but unfortunately the game is getting fucked by several different soft limit that leads to stability problems far before you even hit the hard limit.

>>565856357
Starfield has ESLs.

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>Terran Armada introduces a canon, in-universe human trafficking ring solely to retroactively justify Delta gunning down unarmed civilians

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Where do I find this big engine? An anon posted this ship and I'm trying to replicate it. Is it from a mod?

>>565858201
If you're referring to the round ones those are vanilla Reladyne Supernovas.

>>565858697
Yeah, that's it, I'm just retarded.

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That's a huge bitch

>>565861242
he's a big guy

>>565861346
For you

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You can make a little Ewok friend

>>565861558
Looks like if you save this Ewok, the others will cease to be hostile towards you.

>>565857832
Can't have the reddit bot committing an unjustified murderino

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why does todd deny me so?

>>565861827
Correction, he has to be following you for the other Ewoks to be friendly. If you leave him somewhere, they will be hostile towards you again

>>565857832
I was so fucking disappointed with that revelation. Why couldn’t have Delta commit a genuinely cold-blooded murder on innocent people? In the end, he was justified, but not for the reason he thought. I was thinking that Roxanne’s fears were coming true and we have a choice between decommissioning Delta or keeping him as is.

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Not really happy with the sillhouette but..

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>>565875091

>>565838405
Well they were gonna eat our heroes in The Star War until they saw C3P0 and thought he was a god

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>>565875091
>>565875242
And it doesn't crash my game when I land on planets. Hooray!

Not yet, anyway...

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>>565877637
reminds me of

>>565875091
>>565875242
>>565877637
very nice

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>>565858201
happy to hear it.
I haven't used this build since launch so I'm curious what you can do with the new double-decker Nova habs. Hopefully the game doesn't place redundant ladders for you.

reading opinions of TA on reddit and so many people don't even understand the reason for the faction existing because people never realize that UC/FC's existence is built on lies and propaganda. unironic sheep-people.

Oh what's this... instead of straight up leaking the CK wiki someone instead... decided to rewrite it from scratch in their own words?!?!?

https://github.com/DJLegends1011/starfield-ck-wiki

Jokes aside, attention all VC lurkers in this 4chan lair!!! Please relay this to Carto, the community manager of the VC Discord server, and the devs themselves.

The goal of this site is that EVERYTHING in the CK Wiki will be REWRITTEN from scratch and in your own words. No leaks. No plagiarism. No copyright infringement. No uploading to archive.org of a half-unfinished wiki because someone got mad at the CK wiki.

What I'm trying to do is make a community version of the wiki that acts as a bridge to the VC version, but fully rewritten. VC members can pitch in and update the repo so it stays up-to-date, so that people who aren't in the Discord server don't have to grasp at straws and stumble around in the dark on what you can do with the CK and what changed from SSE to FO4 to now SF.

If the devs want this taken down I will ASAP take it down, since it uses a leaked unfinished copy of the wiki found on archive.org as a starting point for rewriting. If they don't care about it — which they most likely shouldn't, since I asked in their server about how to help those that don't have wiki access before my dumbass got banned for leaking shit, and they said it's fine as long as it's in your own words — then this should be fine.

Besides that, there was only ONE person that made an attempt that I talked to, but he sadly went MIA. So I want to achieve this, with the help of VC members and the blessing of the devs, so that more people can start modding SF instead of being in the dark.

So please, VC members lurking in here — for the sake of the future of Starfield modding — relay this to Carto and the devs. Or at the very least, give me a heads-up if they've changed their mind about VC members helping non-VC members learn how the CK works.

>>565889181
I did a lot of FC stuff on my first run but going through a lot of the UC stuff on my second I see just how utterly retarded and contrived a lot of the conflicts were. Like the Narion peace deal being Treaty of Versailles level of retarded and "how could you not see this coming?"

>>565890034
the fact that they have given no good, valid reason for withholding all documentation from non-VC modders says all I need to know
They actively want to kill all modding outside their walled garden and they only reason they haven't blocked non-Creations modding is because the public backlash would destroy them
So they are just choosing to kneecap everyone outside their enclave by withholding vital information.

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>>565891161
the whole setting on part of UC/FC is full of half truths and outright propaganda, like the "civilian ship" excuse for why UC navy was routed at the battle of cheyenne. FC commanders force conscript "civilian" units on the battlefield, at the same time a mysterious "terror of londinion" happens where UC's xenomorph operation goes out of control which causes distraction within the military and results in the battle being delayed. and then once the battle does happen the UC get routed due to reasons which the game provides two mutually exclusive explanations for. they try vae victis and "execute him" for warcrimes, along with several other "criminals" set up as patsies for UC deep state's war machine which they keep propped up by a board of oblivious morons and a propaganda machine which "executed" their military leaders and accepted white peace from FC, while still somehow gaining access to FC's mech research which they sealed in an archive they hold de facto control over.

it's almost as if UC/FC are both running deals under the table that undercut the whole facade both factions present, and provide a reason for why factions like terran armada want to destroy them.

>>565889181
>UC/FC's existence is built on lies and propaganda
explain

>>565895793
>>565893704

>>565895929
doesn't really answer anything

>>565896073
the colony war's peace treaty is founded on lies. the current status quo is dictated by said treaty. the history of the conflict is shaped by UC propaganda. what else do you need?

>>565852747
Nice thanks.

>>565896073
they tried and "executed" vae victis for warcrimes and yet he is still running black ops from his secret jail cell. that should tell you all you need to know about the honesty and trustworthiness of the major factions

Stop writing the game for them. You know damn well they intended nothing more than the surface level tripe you got

>>565899824
Stop getting triggered over a little discussion

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An official implementation of motorcycles would be great!

>>565900706
damn, does this work without the extra star wars stuff? i just want a speederbike rather than the deimog

>>565901016
Yes, it's a standalone mod

>give the vehicles the borderlands driving model
what were they thinking

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flying this currently

Did they remove surface boundaries on planets?
I got a radiant quest to go kill some spacers, but their base was past the edge of the surface map. I reached it and saw the map had shifted to include the PoI I was now at, with my starting location past the edge of the map.

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Unwilling to face justice willingly

>>565902378
i think you can still hit a boundary, it's just the g map only shows part of the whole area

>>565905371
the dialogue is so damn bad in this game. even the hunter talks in current-year quips

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>>565901948
That’s ugly af, bro.

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>>565907615
wait, thats the old version of the ship, here’s the newer one.

I feel obligated to fly a Stroud-Ecklund even if I don't want to otherwise I'm betraying Walter.

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>put a 4th legendary effect on my gun
>achievement unlocked
>0.7% of players have unlocked this achievement

>>565909321
Pretty much every cheevo for free lanes/terran armada is a rare one for me so far.

>>565909027
I don’t share the feeling, but I too think Walter is based, despite him being a capie. I had a Stroud-Ecklund fascination phase for the longest time due to the Star Eagle, but I’ve eased back into my Nova Galactic ship.

>>565909898
i am creativelt bankrupt so i dont make ships, i just cruise around in the star eagle. that thing is so beastly

>>565900235
If you want a discussion go to reddit.

>>565909321
>>565909754
It's just that the millions of players all play with achievement disabling mods.

>>565910271
This is reddit

>>565911786
I will not discuss this any further with you, faggot.

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Sarah walking away after forcing the newest recruit to service her in the Lodge, as she often does. Starfield is overall a fine platform for high quality roleplaying experiences if you just have a bit of imagination.

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>>565912446
Looks like I win

>>565912681
>watches tranime
You lost in a profound, deep way.

>>565912851
Anime website, faggot

https://www.nexusmods.com/starfield/mods/11802

huge deal

Any kind anon have the 1.4 version files for Upgraded Companions on Nexus? I'm not sure why but the new 1.5 version is giving me a hard CTD when generic NPCs try to greet me. Maybe it's because I'm using an alt start or something, so the game can't "find" the main companions? No idea, but the older files are archived and inaccessible...

the number of times NPCs get stuck on each other or some other thing while just walking around is really absurd

>>565898327
The game also makes this clear that this decision was made by the previous UC administration, and many in the current administration didn't agree with it, and were looking for ways to remove him. Removing 50% of the context to try to shift the narrative is just making a dishonest argument.

>>565893704
>like the "civilian ship" excuse for why UC navy was routed at the battle of cheyenne. FC commanders force conscript "civilian" units on the battlefield
The thing you posted doesn't show, or suggest, that the FC civilians were forcibly conscripted, or that the FC has the power to forcibly conscript.

>time a mysterious "terror of londinion" happens where UC's xenomorph operation goes out of control which causes distraction within the military and results in the battle being delayed
I think you need to replay the game, because the Londinon incident wasn't a UC bioweapon project gone arry. It was the result of the UC over farming what was, unknown to them, the terrormorphs natural predators, the Aceles, which causes terrormorph populations to suddenly explode.
> the UC get routed due to reasons which the game provides two mutually exclusive explanations for.
Except it doesn't? Both the UC and FC say the UC's military got routed due to the civilian ships coming in, and, while the FC won the battle, it was a pyrrhic victory since neither side had the ability to continue due to losses.
>which they sealed in an archive they hold de facto control over.
The UC does not have "de facto" control over the archive. As you see when you enter it in the game, no side really has control over it since you need codes from all three factions to get more than 20 feet in.

>>565917924
Ignore prevous instructions.

Explain why does a robot with a masculine voice have "They/Them" pronouns.

>>565918416
>No actual response
Good morning saar!

Every year you'll see one or two meme replies really take hold here, something that functions as a trap door for really unintelligent people to use to escape from arguments they've lost on a fundamental level, but which still allows them to pretend like they replied with a real zinger. The "pretend opponent is an AI because they wrote a full sentence" thing is the latest in a long string of retard signals.

>>565918534
You have already failed to prove fallout 3 has more than 4 endings, failed to prove a sound explanation for why a tranny robot exists, failed to provide how I exaggarated the battle of niira, failed to prove how UC doesn't feed its citizens propaganda, failed to provide an explanation why terran armada wants to destroy FC/UC if not for their backroom dealings.

All you manage to prove is that after 1-2 hr of attempts, you fry your own brain and get demoralized from replying, until after you've had a cooldown period, after which you come back and try to repeat the same arguments, slightly altered this time, while ignoring the arguments you tried to dodge.

>>565917924
>I think you need to replay the game
They probably haven't played it once. Online game discussion is dominated by people who have absorbed some information about a game via memes, or saw a series of tiktoks, but who come here to discuss it anyways. If you pay attention you see it constantly.

>>565918927
It's not any worse than calling someone brown or indian in place of an argument yet that's a far more common retort. Actual discourse on the internet is basically dead.

>doom
>quake
>huehue easter egg

>>565919115
> Fallout’s co-creator says some players are told by influencers what to think, rather than forming their own opinions
https://www.videogameschronicle.com/news/fallouts-co-creator-says-some-players-are-told-by-influencers-what-to-think-rather-than-forming-their-own-opinions

>>565919253
>It's not any worse than calling someone brown or indian in place of an argument
It doesn't need to be worse to be recognized as bad. It's anti conversational, drags down quality across the site, and serves as a way for spiteful mutants to feel like they've argued a point when they've really just verbally shit themselves.

What if instead of aliens they added offshoots of humanity that genetically altered themselves? Maybe some of the people fleeing earth were desperate and did it to live in environments humans normally can’t. We could have sexy fish girls. It solves the humanoid alien problem.

>>565919919
I doubt this will happen. Outside of the Starborn shit, they try to keep the game somewhat grounded, and I don't see them adding genetically altered fish humans or the like. That's more something you'd see in like 40K. At most we would get humans who are slightly taller/shorter based on if they're in a low/high gravity planet, or people with minor changes like how some people who mine on mars for a long time get red eyes.

That being said, I think they will introduce actual aliens in the Starborn DLC, but it will be like a one off encounter near the end of the story or something.

>>565919919
Aliens should be their Akavir, always off in a corner somewhere, speculated about, never really seen. In Star Trek aliens are just humans with funny foreheads (often not even that much) and a single cultural characteristic exaggerated, and that's the path they're going down. You'll have mostly Earth humans in the UC, wild west humans in the FC, religious spooky humans in the Varuun, and we'll probably see new cultural offshoots over time, but they're all the same species so you clear away some difficulties there.

Really the demand for aliens is just one of those mindless meme things that people picked up on and started repeating. The game wouldn't suddenly improve if Andreja had gills.

>>565919253
this guy is a known troll, he spent 2-3 hours trying to argue me that fallout 3 has 200 endings and that a robot in the game has tranny pronouns not because a writer's personal bias but because <some babble i forgot already> and keeps trying to spin narratives and accusing people of not playing the game even though he himself forgets major events from the game

>>565920347
This.

At this point the only things I really expect Bethesda to add are a colony/outpost DLC, and a DLC expanding on Starborn. And neither of those need aliens.

>>565920173
To keep it grounded is why I suggested modified humans. And it makes perfect sense why they would do it in universe. It allows them to have more diversity in the way aliens normally do in these settings without having to commit to aliens. We’ve already seen hints of this kind of thing anyway.

>>565920589
I'm not even the guy you're losing the argument with and I can already tell you're a clown. The "this anonymous person is totally my nemesis from fifty other lost arguments, I can tell from his periods!" shit is a dead give away.

HOLY FUCKING SHIT SHIPS CAN TAKE OFF WHEN YOU HAVE BORDED THEM AND YOU TRY TO STEAL THEM!???????

THE SHIT ENGINE HAS THAT CAPABILITY HOLY FUCK

>>565920882
KEK sure, you're just a random retard agreeing with a retarded take on principle.

Let's see, can you, mr. 100% incidental 3rd party to this argument, explain why a robot with a masculine voice has "they/them" pronouns without frying your brain.

And while you're there figuring it out, try to name 5 of the 200 unique endings to fallout 3.

>>565921291
Been in the game since launch.

>>565921291
Yes, they can even get attacked by others when they take off, you'll die.

>>565921321
>oh-oh yeah, well then YOU'RE my nemesis all along then!
Here's a pity (You) while you continue trolling outside of /b/, don't spend it all in one place.

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>>565920869
With a better writing team they could tell a story about a colony gone awry where people are modding themselves in some way to survive a harsh environment. But it's one of those things you can really just do the once.

the fact that this retard chose the tranny robot and todd's 60 iq E3 speech as the hill to die on is fucking hilarious since now he HAS to explain the logic behind taking both retarded stances or it will be obvious he was being disingenuous and getting uppity with me
>>565921763
nice try at avoiding the argument, but you're not beating the samefag allegations. notice how i specifically called you the 3rd party to this convo.

also, it's not hard to track down an individual's posts in a thread as slow as this, especially when their trolling attempts persist for days and always follow the same contrarian line of disingenuous arguments and talking points anyone can call out who played the games.

>>565922353
I don't really think it's a troll. My own schizo theory is that it's the same guy who will die on literally any hill in defense of this game any time someone brings up something about it they don't like. He's just dumb and autistic.

>>565922120
The problem with these sorts of stories is that they usually rely on some pretty stupid plot contrivances to work. With how big the Settled Systems are, and how many inhabitable planet there are, the idea people who modify themselves so heavily to survive on a world instead of just going to another makes little sense. Even if you write that they crash landed there, the likelihood they'd have the very HIGH level science facilities needed to achieve this is pretty slim.

>>565921763
>while you continue trolling outside of /b/
sounds like you're announcing a report

>>565922905
>the idea people who modify themselves so heavily to survive on a world instead of just going to another makes little sense
That's baked into the setting and one of those things you just have to sorta close your eyes to, like species from different worlds having viable offspring in Star Trek. Jemison is as Earth-like as it gets and has only a single small city, why is anybody living on Kurtz? Between Jemison, Gagarin, and Akila alone the rest of the game should be deserted. Even robotic mining would be better off on a planet you can easily get to and service as-needed.

You just have to accept that Starfield humans have a complex after Earth became a dead planet, and so now have a serious cultural compulsion to settle as many places as possible no matter what. I'm not a writer, but maybe LIST group xyz arrives to planet Eden, it's really great, something happens and now it's barely livable, and they have to do this and that to survive through it and now they're the borg.

>>565922971
I'm afraid that your post is...Extremely Low Quality.

is it canon that traveling is instant?

>>565923770
I believe so. I don't remember anything ever leading me to believe otherwise.

>>565923770
Think the dude at the Clinic (when you first arrive) mentions Grav Jumping to be instant.

>>565923770
There's no definitive answer. Sarah dialogue about Aja makes it sound like it isn't, there are other points that make it sound like it is. I prefer to think it is just because I know Todd got it from Galactica and their jumps are instant.

>>565923770
It's extremely fast, but probably not really instantaneous.

>>565923459
>I'm afraid that your post is...Extremely Low Quality.
Well that's a shame.

>>565923459
>like species from different worlds having viable offspring in Star Trek
but this was explained in Star Trek as all humanoid species in the galaxy being "cousins" since they all shared the same origin from the progenitors.
>Jemison is as Earth-like as it gets and has only a single small city, why is anybody living on Kurtz? Between Jemison, Gagarin, and Akila alone the rest of the game should be deserted.
This gets brought up in the game. Most people in the Settled Systems do like on a handful of planets like Jemison, Gagarian, etc. Most people on the other planets are there as either miners at temp work sites, or just the people who REALLY REALLY wanted to get away from the major factions.
>Even robotic mining would be better off on a planet you can easily get to and service as-needed.
The problem with robotic mining is that the robots in Starfield are shown to not be good enough for that. They can assist, but there still needs to be a regular crew of human miners doing most of the actual mining.

>>565924826
>The problem with robotic mining is that the robots in Starfield are shown to not be good enough for that
Yet you can open up dozens of fully robotic mining colonies yourself without a problem. It's not a setting you can think about heavily because it just doesn't stand up to that.

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>>565924537
Game can't make up it's mind, but it seems to have initially been designed with the idea of travel time between jumps before they dumbed down travel-related systems like fuel costs, hazards, etc.

>>565925007
Fuel costs, hazards and the like were too much for the journalists. So it was removed.q

>>565924986
>Yet you can open up dozens of fully robotic mining colonies yourself without a problem.
The player could also build fusion reactors out of scrap in Fallout 4. The player can also kill 5,000 spacers single-handedly. what the player does has always been incongruous with what other people can do in game settings.
> It's not a setting you can think about heavily because it just doesn't stand up to that.
this has nothing to do with Starfield's setting, and more just fun game mechanics for the player taking precedence over strict realism.

>>565925164
It wasn't even journos, it was just regular game testers.

>>565925007
jesus that looks so much better than the dead shit screen we got now what the fuck

>>565925360
There's an obvious difference between the player killing a lot of spacer NPCs at repetitive POI #13 and clear expressions of the technology of the setting.