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look at him go
Give 5th gens
infantry when
The footy roster poll is now closed, thanks for voting. Ill share the results in a bitt footy anon
vikhrs
what if we killed niggerit with several ball peen hammers applied directly to his skull
>>565725553gotta go through me first
>>565725594
>>565725135so how come literal bugmen figured out how to make low profile panel joints while the best slavtrannies can do looks like it's ikea furniture
What the fuck is up with the Mig-29s fuel consumption while on afterburner???
i love this games decals
>>565726101Didn't they get the F-117s wreck?
>>565726101>those screwsoof
crazy how when the retarded nigger makes an early new it's filled with complete garbage like namefag drama or unrelated images from reddit
as a tailgunner enjoyerthis one is so fucking assit's like they wanna punish you for having too much fun in the sm91
>>565724475
>>565727509give me a list of some good tailgunner planes to fly
ARB is such dogshit its amazing anyone defends this trash
>>565730054cute
>>565730127jap deathstartu-2ssome of the swigger bombersil-10 (they never expect those to punch as hard as they do)
>>565725321Alright boyos, your new footy rosterJoining >arcade and Duce as medals (aka star players):Sekrit Documents, Bushnigger, NiggerbunkerMidfielders:Blue Enemy, Spurdo, Crapan, Catch my vikhrPapa Daniel, Pidor, Gayjew, Tiananmen Square 1989Defenders:BBC POCCNN (New!), Vehicles for this feel?, Bubi (Revived!), Anime Game, >Anton, Handheld, Small Family Company)))), Niggerkart (New!), HARD TO USEBanned: Unknown Technology)))), Tovarisch)))), Needful Status?Shitaly stays in the goal, as usualFun fact: I had to choose the last player from a 9-way tieAnyway, thank you for your interest. Ill let you know when matchdays happenAlso give me some funny model ideas for BBC POCCNN and niggerkart
>>565731213>funny model ideas for BBC POCCNNThe tail end of any russian airplane with said inscription
>>565731213Ka52 for BBC POCCNN and vikhr model for catch my vikhr
>>565732019how new are you?
>>565731213su34 for BBC POCCИИ>>565732019catch my vikhr is a late ussr pilot holding 2 vikhrs
what a wonderful arrangement of posts
>>565732575>filtered comment catch my vikhrthe raped
>>565731213Coach in a ZSh-7.
give ZTZ-100
>>565732728the vikhr has been caught one too many times
JH-7 is just a big F-1.
Ru 251 or AMX-13 SS.11?
>>565737635Neither because ground is dogshit
>>565737635definitely ru251gokart with no postpen >>>>>>>>>> 6.3 tank with missiles that you'll end up only using once every blue moon
>Everyone says the Ariete is OP>Play it>It's the jet equivalent of a ZeroThis game is full of retards
>>565738061You are a few years late, Anon
>>565737635>Germany 7.3even if they paid me Golden Eagles I wouldn't play that.>AMX-13 with "pen everything" panic buttonsort of OK if you like your women with hairy armpits and smoking cigarettes.
what plane goes with Tiger II lineup? if at all. I feel like I can't bomb for shit without Stuka + giant bomb
>>5657407476.7 Ar 234
>>56574074750mm Me 262Event Me 262AradoPremium Do 335
Am I doing something wrong or is a 9060XT + 5800X3D + 32GB of RAM not enough to max out the graphics of this game and get over 100 fps?
>>565731213The most blacked roster in footy
>>565741883the game isn't optimized for high graphics settings anyways the only acceptable settings is ulq with "everything" maxed out
>>565741883My rig is worse and it runs at 180 fps without issue
>>565740747Tiger II (10.5cm) + Ho229 + the alien spaceship camo + playing the x-files theme at full volume
>>565740747262 A1/U4, still the best gun CAS in the game
>>565738061if the zero had better acceleration and climb than everything it can seealso the Zero just loses in turn rate to some things like shitfire lf mk. ix, nothing outturns the ariete
>>565743928>still the best gun CAS in the gameit 1hits tanks way less than the yak-9k / yak-9ut's 45mm APHE, imo.and the 262 is a huge boat unlike the yakshonestly i'd say the mk103s are better than the a-1/u4 as well, even though their HVAP belts and accuracy were ahistorically nerfed due to pidor whining on forums
>>565737635>AMX-13 SS.11bro that thing is fucking DOGSHIT, do NOT get.
>>565741883>max out the graphicswith or without the all the gay tracing options?
i4w?
>>565741883Disable the most performance expensive options and you should be fine. I'm able to run the game at 144fps on gtx 1070 with most settings on high
>>565741883My computer is worst than yours and I easily get 140 at max settings, 1080p though
>>565744236The yak9k is definitely more maneuverable, but I wouldn't go so far as to describe the U4 as a boat. The Yaks have difficulty even going top down on some heavier tanks while the U4 can go through almost every tanks' sides with ease. I would say they're comparable with the 9K being more agile with the U4 having a harder hitting gun. But there is no shot that the 103s are better than the 57, ESPECIALLY while running HVAP. You should be running Stealth belts, since even the slightest angle makes HVAP all but useless, not even to mention the post pen.
>>565737635Why do you insist on getting some of the worst premiums in the game? Get a Turm III or a Somua like normal human being
>>565741883i get 80 - 100 fps with a 9070xt at 3440x1440 with smaa x 4 and tsrnot max settings but grass and other stuff off
>>565745056hulldown nigger bunker at it's own tier, useless in uptier
>>565745056too late to the party, 9.0 was peakit's still ok, but those downtiers against 8.0s were amazing
>>565745056It's still good. If you can go hull down.
>>565740747K-4 now that they added the 250 bombs after who knows how many yearsNarwhal 262 if you have the ground targets belt and can BnZ177 with custom loadouts if you like flexing F-4 with 4 50 bombs if you really like flexing
>>565746789please dont tell me youre that one anon from r9k
Lowkirk early ground is so boring
>>565746916
>>565746916>please dont tell me youre that one anon from r9k
>>565747250Yes m'am
Hetzer or Jagdpanzer 4?
>>565747250
Chi-Hu II worth buying for early Japan?
>>565747725erm did you mean jagdpanzer 38t? there's no vehicle called hetzer
what is the difference between these 3? they all seem basically the same
>>565747610theres this one guy on r9k who is asking people to post gifs like that for his "collection" and then is planning on buying a bunch of monitors to surround himself with while the gifs play, hes an omega coomer
>>565748060yeah it's a nuke throweryou're a tinderbox though
>>565748060I'm sure it'll be an amazing napkinwaffe whatever that fucking tank is
>>565748132link to thread?
>>565748112one is 6.0, hope that helps
>>565748112>bigger number>higher BRthank you for attending this war thunder developer q&a
>>565748112mk14 and mk18 are basically the same they just get slightly different ground loadoutsLF mk9 has worse performance at altitude (6km+) but much better low alt performance because it weighs less
>>565748284https://desuarchive.org/r9k/thread/84357257/#84357257
>There's an F-5 at 13.0What the fuck?
>>565748589bless you
>>565748590it has 2 ARH missiles so that totally makes up for the performance difference
You are reminded once again to Play Britain.
>>565748381>>565748523ah i see, thanks for clearing that up
>play the brown people treeyikes i'll pass
>>565748747Don't wanna grind the early tree sadly
Can the kfir canard be used to grind the IOF tree or is that just wishful thinking
>>565749098Yeah it's prob the only decent option for IOF premiums besides the Netz
>>565749098Yes but it's not as good as it used to be.
>>565725553He'll flee to israel if you attack poland, reminder that he is literally a kike
>>565747250>>565747796>>565748540DID SOMEBODY MENTION INBREEDING?https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IRsRpdIO_pY
not War Thunder
>>565725553obsessed lol
>>5657502032x Phantom 3x Flogger
Should I hold the F-6C tomorrow or sell it to buy some GE slop
um can we have leaks again? its better than dev streams to be honest desu
>>565747250>>565747796>>565748540go back to your containment thread ffs
No I like it here.
>plays tranny game>calls others "troonlover"
Do any of the /wtg/ squads do SQB?
Any of these worth a cop for early grinding?
lazerpig is some sort of plant
>>565758716We do WWM sometimes.
>>565758919Get yourself a full captured Russian lineup.
>>565758716keeeeeeeek
>>565758919P4 for longer range, churchill for brawling (only when not facing the soviets). KV is just a meme canon
>>565758919Don't listen to that faggot. Don't ever buy a non G premium Pz4. Churchill will let you tank shit but you won't kill anything. KV-2 is a meme but at least it lolpens shit.
>>565759162my fav take of his is that if you enjoy german tanks in war thunder, you're automatically a nazi even if you're a shitlib lmao
>>565760750takes one to know one
>>565760673>Churchill will let you tank shitKek as if, even a sherman can railgun your turret cheeks. go back to 1.0 shitter.
>>565760882>flat armor>not anglingsasuga retard
>>565760673So don't buy any of em?
>>565761145If you absolutely must buy one of those 3, get the KV2.If you can get literally anything else, get anything elseEspecially the captured KV1 and T34
>>565760975>angle your turret bro!>you know, the turret with a clipped turret face!>so they can literally lolpen you no matter where you're looking !Fucking retarded mutt faggot jesus CHRIST i hate you tourist niggers who don't play the game, fuck off back to /v/eddit or something.
>>565761224I got 1400 GE or so leftover from last year, so I thought I'd get something in a tree I haven't started, I could spend a little bit and get the KV1 or the T34 I guess
>>565761529Seething lol maybe try getting good and not being brown oops you're a german main hahaha tough luck there sport
>>565761589>act like an incredible retard>lol erm mad!?!?!Thanks squidley, we salute you
>>565761568If you want to save GE just wait for the 50% sales. The KV-2 is the only really decent one since it has an MG and helps clear obstacles for your massive fuck off HE shell. The Russian TT one doesn't and it only has an event KV-2 with an MG thank you gaijin )))))))
>>565761726thanks for depicting yourself in the image, i agree you didn't get humiliated enough
>>565730054Daebom carrying the anime girl versions of tanks.
>self fellating your slopwhen are you vtrooning out
>>565761568Buy the Italian Pz4 and M4 Hybrid literal money printer lineup
chi nu 2 niggers coming out in force today, bring your autoloaded bofors to fuck them up
F-15E (AESA) whenF-14D when
>>565764668muttsharts are obsessed with keeping shit classified way beyond any fathomable usefulness to enemies so probably long after you and me kill ourselves
>shoot level, front facing su-85 on the sloped weakspot>shell just shatters>mfw not even firing solid turd or apds
>>565765503doesn't matter when gaijoobles has confirmed using classified data anyway just put it in the game
how many gunpods should i take on my f4e i currently have 3 but it feels a bit much
>>565766123You're a usa pilot so just go with whatever feels most retarded and useless to you
>>565766123You don't need any
>>565766718now say that to her older sister, faggot
neat
>CFTs have more drag than wingpod fuel tanksmake it make fucking sense gaijin
America isn't going to get a good jet until they put fifth gens in the game huh
>>565765775They are still just a videogame studio, not an intelligence agency, who the fuck keeps giving them classified documents?
>>565769468You underestimate how autistic pilots and tank commanders are about their vehicles
>>565770723>WE DID WAR GAMES WITH SWEDEN ONE TIME AND I HAVE IT IN GOOD FAITH MY TRUSTY EAGLE COULD GO CIRCLES AROUND GRIPENS. ONE JUST BEAT ME IN A DOGFIGHT GAIJIN PLS FIX>HERE IS THE FULL DOCUMENTATION WHERE IT SAYS HOW I WON THE DOGFIGHT AND SOME PHOTOS I TOOK>BEST REGARDS - 2nd lieutenant Bubba H davenport, 32nd squadron "ass rapists", fort goyim AFB, WSO
>>565771405I got a good chuckle out of that one thanks anon
>>565771405isn't this literally what happened with the leclerc turret drive lmao
>>565771568I know it happened with the Chally 2 when some autistic tank commander posted a video of the turret rotation speed from the commander seat, which was hilarious. If it happened with the leclerc too then that's incredibly based
>>565771568
>>565772443>>565772578kek yeah if gaijin actually started using sekrit dokuments provided by the community there would be a massive spike of NATO court martialings and chinese officer beheadings
>>565772753I'm sure most of the people with actual clearance to know things (fifth gen pilots, current in-service pilots etc) are kept under strict supervision and if they even so much as look at this game they get barred from flying or have hearings kek
>>565772957manuals have to be given out to a LOT of people, id imagine that mechanics are probably the most likely to leak shit. besides, theres a big difference in being a person of interest and being a person under investigation. theres a massive overlap between people into military hardware and people into war thunder so theres no way they can run a perfectly tight ship.
>>565737635AMX 13 is pure joy
>>565772957>are kept under strict supervisionyet they train chinese pilots on the side
arb should just use sim bracketsif i'm at 13.7 there shouldn't be any 14.0+ planes in my lobby
>>565779346sim brackets change every 2 days (https://warthunder.highwaymen.space/SimCal/), all this system does is make the humans play top BR vehicles of a bracket while all the retards get farmed by playing whatever with no forethought
>>565779630either way a full +1-/-1 is too much at this point considering the disparity in airframesretards get farmed by playing whatever anyway
>>565779801You've identified the problem correctly but what you're proposing is just replacing one problem with another. The BR system is a fine concept, it's just that the BR spread is too high. Reduce it to 0.7 or even 0.3 and it'll be perfectly fine. The two reasons given for the 1.0 BR spread a decade ago, the classic "muh queue times" and "muh vehicle variety", have been all but solved by the growth of the playerbase and the fleshing out of the tech trees and are no longer valid concerns.
>>565780084I think it should be 1.0 at lower BRs but shrink the higher you go, like .7 at 9.0 and then .3 when you hit 13.0the disparity in airframes at 12.0/13.0+ is immense in just .3 br whereas at lower tiers a full tier may not be that insane
ITS UP>ITS UPITS UP>ITS UP
https://warthunder.com/en/news/10013-event-legend-of-victory-kv-8-en>https://warthunder.com/en/news/10013-event-legend-of-victory-kv-8-enhttps://warthunder.com/en/news/10013-event-legend-of-victory-kv-8-en>https://warthunder.com/en/news/10013-event-legend-of-victory-kv-8-eni was just joking>kv-1>with worthless flamethrower>30k points per task
>>565780181actual patch or just a meme hotfix with no patchnotes like they usually do?
>>565780265>45mmebin, watch it be 2.7 or some shit
>>565780281i thought it was just a hotfix but as you can see it's event vehicle dumped into the files instead
>america still doesn't have a true top tier airframehalf tempted to just grind the 16CM because at least it's a better airframe than the 15C
>>565758919J is a cruel joke. Someone at Gajin thinks it's funny to make new players spend GE to play the worst Panzer IV.Churchill is too slow and any KV/T-34 with a brain can frontally pen your turret roof.KW-2 must be very strong now since they buffed the reload and changed the BRs around, but I wouldn't want to grind out the whole tree with a 30s reload.
is F-15E any good?
>>56578095314.0 is nice if you get downtiered to 13.0 you shitstomp the entire lobby but it cannot fight 14.3/14.7 airframes with its shit radar
>>565780313T-50 is 2.7T-126 is 3.0KV-1 with same gun should be no lower than 3.3
>>565780265>30k points per taskhuge improvement, I remember when these piece of shit events were at 45k
>>565780953It's fucking obese
first one was 25k
>>565781196the lowest we've had it was the AVRE so far i think at 35k so 30 is an improvement
>>565781196IS-2 №321 was 25k pointsTOG II, Sturmtiger, T-34 with the flag, etc. were 35k
>>565780265>>565781196>not even tier III
>>565781196it's 30k for a tier 2 tank that will get uptiered 2-4 steps from its current 2.3 BRand 500k for the couponnigger are you serious?
I think I'd rather fly the F-16 block 52 over the F-15GE, 16 airframes feel so nice
>>565782847Yes I am serious. I am a collector autist and I don't generally care how good the vehicles I collect are. If the vehicle sucks then it shouldn't even be a complaint for you since you have no reason to grind for it.
>>565782740event vehicles can stil grind
>>565768198>get hit in turret anywhere>entire ammo load and every missile evaporates>cant repair anything because a fire started>however the fire a fire is in an unknown dimension warped by space and time and can't be put out by FPE>either you try to drown yourself to put the fire out>or you randomly die from this mysterious fire after 5 minutes of it doing no damage to anythingfun and engaging vehicle
>>565780265I fucking need it
>>565780265>slow>shit gun>flamethrower that does nothing practicalWhoop de doo
>>565783564>KV>slow
>flamethrowers still make bullet impact noisesthey really put a lot of care and effort into this game
>>565784986get a job
>>565780265>a fucking up-armoured KV-1 at 3.0/3.3 thanks to the shit gun>just as Pz.IV's went upThis will be THE niggerbunker of 2026
>>565784986they're just autocannons with rounds that linger on the spot they land onekstrem real yes))))
>a couple ok matches>eat shit for 6 matches in a rowi know it's rigged but this is ridiculous
>>565783312Can't grind Rank IV with a Rank II vehicle.
playing the Mirage IIIE and i feel like a clown trying to get kills with the guns
>>565786464that is one creepy frog, I can practically feel the suffering
>>565786554hey be nice, he only chewed some 5 Gum®
>>565780265>180,000 points for a Rank II tank.>500,000 points to sell a Rank II tank.
>>565787210how much do you think it will cost? and holy shit tumblr
>>56578725124.65GJN
>>565785268there's no way
>>565724475>thread theme
>particle effects still don't have lightning applied
>>565782740Churchill Petard is also Rank II and that was a 35k grindRussian bias doesn't exist however
>>565758919This >>565760273The German modded (and Finnish KV if you're willing to piggy out) are great.
>>565790175Did you know thermal sights are just a color filter?
>>565791561you say this every time like we carewe care but not that much
>>565791561another fun fact is how the optics filter doesn't just desaturate the game, it brightens it tooso looking through cracked, dirty binoculars magically turns night lighter
>>565791716The world is on fire and you don't care?
>>565791963
Where is R-24R on the Sparrow spectrum?
>>565793075about 7E to 7E-2
>>565793075AIM-7F/M sidegrade (accelerates FAR faster, less range and worse energy retention since no sustainer).
>>565787520Hey, it's Ilya Boychishin from Krivoy Rog.
>>565795290>be bad>seethe at Chinathe gweilo seethe specialpurified inferiority complex
>Get "Adamant" award 30 times>30 timesThese braindead slavs know you can only get this once per match, right. And it's more or less completely out of the player's control to get it or not?
Was it worth grinding 600,000 points?
>>565795963For you poor people it was, I just bought it using about 10 minutes worth of payment for my day job.
>>565795963I sued a hospital and can pretty much buy every vehicle on the market with fuck you spending money but I won't out of sheer spite for the Jewdintsevs
>>565796157tuffbut I don't want to give money to the devs
>>565791963war thunder if it was good
>>565796287lmao hopsital chopped this niggas balls off accidentally
>they made the zis 5 kv1 have a working hull mg>literally no other tankfor what purpose
>>565797336in preparations for the kv8?they share the hull and kv8 has no coax
>>565797336>literally no other tankwdym?
>>565797545they didnt add the working hull mg for any other tank all the others with non working hull mgs still havent got theirs just this one tank
>>565797636like german spaa's and TD's?
>>565797829ofc you're a german main
>>565797636What's the use case for working hull mg?
Stream sniping?
>>565798697>What's the use case for working hull mg?No wonder this puzzles your virgin mind, you probably ask the same question about your cock since you will literally never have sex.
take your meds schizo
why did they add the hard shadow on the bars?
>>565798853Please answer the question.
>>565799219Did you know that thing between your legs is supposed to go into a woman? As in, somebody ELSE and not just to be yanked by your sweaty greasy hand?
lmao fuckin goteem
>>565799328I accept your concession, then.
Another virgin consneeded and humiliating.This shits too easy.
>>565798697I think there used to be infantry units in the game but they were removed rather quickly. I may have hallucinated this though.
>>565800231There were some in the WW1 AF event. Why the fuck would you need hull mg for anything else.
why is almost every single fucking LWR module set to disable IRST when it's destroyed instead of the LWR
>>565800524no no I'm talking long before that, like 2014
>>565800524why the fuck would you need mgs for that matter
>>565780313>>565780265>>565785197>3.7lollollollollmaodoa>>565800231Long ago there were some, you even had infantry on some plane maps shooting you with bolt action rifles. The last remaining infantry on tanks was I think on old, old, old big Fire Arc when it was still called Kursk, there were also AI anti-tank guns.
>>565801254why the fuck would you need a turret for that matter
what happened to this thing anyways?
>>565801354not true the last old-infantry was in the jap test flight map peleliu
>>565801254No, but we're talking about hull mgs. Which are almost always rifle caliber. For what purpose? Other than to kill infantry, which we don't have in game? For Type 93 I guess.
>>565801505>The last remaining infantry on tanks
>>565800231>>565801354there was infantry in world war mode as well
>>565801370why the fuck would you need more than 1 gear for that matter
>>565801941There were some spalling in solid shot shells. Why the fuck would you HE filler for anything else.
>>565801354>KurskYES, I remember that. Holy shit that map really felt like a really ww2 battle. Shame that most of that feel has been stripped away for hyper competitive gameplay. Where now most of the time the weather is bright and sunny and rarely get any extreme weather conditions for both air and ground. It's a wonder why they even give some planes NVGs when there will never be a night time air battle and night time ground battles are extremely rare. I remember when ground battles would frequently have night battles at very low brs with tracers filling the skies on wide open maps.
There was some gameplay when it was only planes wtf would you want tanks for that matter???
>sh4rtranny kills the jokeYeah that checks
>>565765503>>565765775I like how you both pretend like top tier isn't just a mess of made up fantasy numbers already
>>565802751kek
i miss the destroyer(s?) chilling offshore on Jungle
>>565802751Tale as old as time>>565803113It was an LCS with a couple of working bofors and i think it was neutral so the team closest to it could shoot it and get first strikeI did that a lot
>>565758919just buy the T-34 at 4.3 instead
Sherman Croc whenSherman Tulip whenKV-8 could be fun in Infantry but given they said they're starting in Korea I'm guessing Inf trees are starting in 5.X to fit the Easy Eights and T-34-85
>another shitbunker KV-something event vehicle
>>565801354>3.7Spawn it in a full down tier and demolish the 2.7-3.0 babiesOtherwise just spawn the KV-1 L-11 or T-34You do play with a complete lineup and utilise its full potential, right?
>>565803213I miss when shooting the barrage balloons on Normandy would give you points and kills. Shooting teammates with mgs gave you score and there was friendly fire between tanks in GRB that they removed after the Crimea thing. They also removed free country flags around that time too. This game has been so sanitized.
>>565804376I can't really say I miss the mass chimpouts in spawn