Oh baby that's triple# Store link:https://store.steampowered.com/app/2378900/The_Coffin_of_Andy_and_Leyley/# Guides (Major spoilers; avoid until having played through the game once):>Routes & Subrouteshttps://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3545926625>Achievementshttps://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3050231198>Stars & Visionshttps://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3459534675>Complete Episode 2 Walkthroughhttps://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3052417644>Episode 3 Endings Guidehttps://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3148380245># News:>Episode 3A: Decay has been released!https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/2378900?emclan=103582791473416093&emgid=523086940514289223>[APRIL 2026] Decay and Burial being developed simultaneously, whichever episode gets completed first is the next major update. It's currently looking like it'll be Burial.https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/2378900?emclan=103582791473416093&emgid=537755982024934503# Nemlei's previous games:https://mega.nz/file/FSFXURYI#FhEp5w4qMv4w0A0mMfQ4YqLD5TJuve014_-eTNdIbSIPrevious thread: >>565518015
Sex. With sisters.
*Airhorns*
thread theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=26PRhCJtgPQ
>#555BAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAASED
>>565776079
>i said a nigger>a nigger>a nigger to the nig>a niggy niggy nig>nigger nigger nig niggy>niggy to the nig nig nigger>niggy to nig nig to niggy nig nigger>niggy to the nig nig nigger>niggy to nig nig to niggy nig nigger>niggy to the nig nig nigger>niggy to nig nig to niggy nig nigger>a niggy niggy nig
>>565776096Buy an ad.
>>565776532>sister discovers the power of saying racial slurs>giggles like a ten year old when she drops the gamer wordSisters are SOOOO fucking cute.
>>565776078Well if you incest
>>565776683Anon... Do you think he's Slipknot himself or something?
>>565777057It's me, John Slipknot
>>565777096HOLY SHIT ANDREW IT'S SLIPKNOT
>>565776079??? sisters...
>>565777493>??? sisters
>>565770926>leyleyismNo, that's a disease. I'm just in support of eugenic delphism and similar policies but not NatLey ideology
>>565771250>>565771634At what point do you think each of them realised they were de facto a romantic couple?
>>565777535That's !!!
Reminder Andrew will save Ashley's very soul through the power of love in Episode 4 and it will be played completely straight.
>>565778402Sisters... sex...
>>565779053Why does Julian get all the rapey girls...
>>565779203>>565779053le discord raid face
She's the yee to my yee,The ground to my beef.She's the girl of all my dreams.But there's just one thing about herThat I just can't believe…When I look in those eyes, it ain't no surpriseShe's the most kind girl I've dated…But there's only one thing wrong with this woman……We're not blood related…
>>565779549Andrew literally thinks the exact opposite of this!
>>565779651Heresy. We know that he doesn’t really love Julia.
>>565777649It's difficult to tell. Their relationship has been semi-romantic ever since they were teenagers. Ashley knew that Andrew wasn't being truthful about his nightmares, he just wanted to be close to her and she allowed it. It was an unspoken more-than-sibling-like relationship they shared and Ashley was somewhat justified in feeling betrayed when Andrew started seeing Julia. It was kinda sorta cheating.They're only really explicit about it after the kiss in the tower, when Ashley wonders if they're lovers now and Andrew says he's fine being Ashley's mother, father, boyfriend, whatever during the argument. After she slaps him, he leaves, calling himself her "ex-lover".
>>565779983smashunironically we need a yuri scenelike the devil turning andrew into a woman for a while cuz ashley fucked up
>>565779983Imagine how bad Andrea smells
>>565780474she smells like cigarettes and Jack
>>565780474She smells like an ashtray that's been cummed on.
I bet Ashley or Andrea would believe in/try vabbing
>>565777834This guy knows it
>>565780197Ashley in pants make me so fucking hard. I'm sorry, I just had to say it.
>>565783198How tf does one end up like this?
>>565775997
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uzCy3NH09fcFitting Andrew Graves playlist?
>>565784589>man consent made
This was on my computer for some reason. Don't know where I got it.
>>565780648
>>565784589>holy coffin sister sex love
Beybeys
>>565784589>rape anon
>>565784589>andrew betterAndrew has been vindicated!
>>565787458pronounced babies btw
>>565784589>rape anonAlright. The cloud has spoken.
>>565785587Where the FUCK is this from?
Is this the ultimate form of sister?
>>565790291It was made from trees! Trees are very strong.
>>565788989Not that I would be opposed. Only problem is it's a pain in the ass because filming CRT monitors requires cameras with decent shutters. Filming on my phone, its fine for a single image, but for 6 hours of gameplay... Yeah. Also, not to mention storage space would he annoying.
>>565790915Can you change the shutter speed on your phone's camera app? The biggest challenge is getting the right distance so you can avoid moire patterns.
>>565791919>manipulator>murderer>cannibalWhy is it a picture of Ashley and not Andrew
>>565792310A+ lol
https://x.com/i/status/2051274024144208013
Anon's wife Noelle has problems
>>565793492okay googleBlackWhiplash Andrew_Graves
Rare Candy Scabs
>>565797129>after credits of Andrew and Ashley turning into demons before jumping into the 4th wall at jumpscare speeds WAHAHAHCMON GET DOWN WITH THE SICKNESS
discord trannies really out in numbers today
https://x.com/i/status/2051288674692988955
Who remember when the 3A teasers showed us past Renee without an obscured face?
>>565797578
>>565797579I have every instance of my wife Renny downloaded directly into my brain
Threadly reminder bratty sisters are for continuous piston-like penetrations of the anus!
Why the incest is seen ad disgusted? Since this is one of the main reasons for the game to be disgraced by general public, I'm here wondering myself......WTF? Why related people cannot engage in love again? Why is that wrong?Okay, if that became a normal thing, the sudden risk of people with...Problems to say the least, would rise a lot, few people commit it and it exists sooooBut outside of that, why? Is it because Christians said so?(same people who believe we are all related to Adam and Eve thefore we all are sinners) What about atheists? I have seen atheists hate Incest as well, but I didn't manage to ask why tho, I myself had a thing for my cousin growing up, adults sort of teased me and because of that I actually asked, got rejected because "ew, incest bad"....Why is bad? Why law prohibits it in someplaces? Tradition cannot be a reason since Generation Z loves ruining tradition anyway, and this reddit is the good part of Gen Z honestly, even if some of you are degenerates, I think you understand some things are bullshitly judged. Things is, should we let it be hated on? Meaningless or not, doesn't discard that it exists and people partake in it with chance of being accused of a crime.....A damn crime for no actual reason but loving someone consensually, I don't think it is fair. The main problems are lack of awareness and twins that simoly have the same genetic code, it is like underage sex, people do it any way without protection because of poor education, it happens, is sex worth of becoming a crime tho because people are not responsible about it tho? Again, that's a case and not a status quo, it is indeed a problem of reproduction, but that is the thing, why not criminalize the act of inbreeding instead of incest then?
>>565802978Every pre-Abrahamic society around the world celebrated sibling marriage. Yes, we get to blame the Jews for this one.
Licence to inbreed
>>565629394God is a retarded lying tranny who tries to pretend that the afterlife will be better than my life right now when he literally abuses me for my thoughts right now. The afterlife is just dreaming in the womb and the fact that God abuses me for things like thinking and playing video games is proof that his problem is me being happy/enjoying myself. The nature of God doesn't change, he's not going to magically become more tolerant of my happiness when I'm dead in the womb, if he abuses me for my thoughts, playing video games, watching tv/movies now then he not going to allow me to experience anything more enjoyable than that when I die, or as enjoyable as that. God is a retarded tranny who never intends to stop making my life hell, he doesn't tolerate me being happy in life and he won't tolerate me being happy in death either.The world exists so that God can abuse me through his retarded sadistic tranny ogre self-inserts and he's a retard for believing that there's any way that he can justify his behavior and for believing that he can identify himself with some of the least persistently real people in the world instead of the retarded tranny ogres he most persistently manifests and animates to abuse me through especially because he knows he's too retarded and disgusting to persistently manifest anyone desirable and the people he most persistently manifests are disgusting and generally inferior to me morally and in character in general.
Choose your Ley.
>>565809274Tbdesu, Ashley rocks the pixie cut look
>>565802978>this reddit
I went into the backyard today and noticed a shoe, hair brush, and tube of toothpaste in the grass. I looked up, and the bathroom window was open. So I went inside to ask my sister, and she said that she opened the window because it was hot, then saw a spider on the towel next to the window and proceeded to throw things at it. I don't even know if she actually hit it
https://x.com/i/status/2051335819148013576
Andmew
>>565814754What word should I use to describe Judaism, Christianity, and Islam collectively?
>>565814975You should ask Reddit.
June devlog?
>>565814975Children of Abraham
Literally everyone failed her.
The existence of sisters has yet to be proven by science
It's sad that the only time in the entire game where Andrew tells someone "I love you" is when he doesn't mean it.
>>565821879The existence of cats proves the existence of sisters
>>565803662>Every pre-Abrahamic society around the world celebrated sibling marriageYou don't have to lie in order to make an argument for incest (at least peer) to be accepted, if homosexuals or trannies can than there is even more reason for normal heterosexual sibling relationships to be. Fact is that sibling marriage in all of Pre-Christian Europe was still illegal or accepted, the only society I'm aware of that did, is Zoroastrian Persia (way more based than Muslim Persia).
>>565824340*not accepted
>>565824340The Romans permitted sibling incest, the Greeks did, the Egyptians did, the Japanese did, the Iranians did, the Incas did; it was only after being introduced to Abrahamic faiths that societies started cracking down on it.
>>565789595The sister ulti. It's like kamehameha.
>>565792643Secondaries or never played the game, please understand.
>>565825143>Secondaries or never played the gameThe distinction implies that one can have not played the game, but still not be a secondary.
>>565824716>The Romans permitted sibling incestNo they didn't lol. They even tried to stop the Egyptians from doing it.>inb4 "but that crazy emperor everyone hated!"
>>565793071HOLY FUCK IT'S NEMLEI
>>565824716Do you have any proof? A quick search tells me that it was only legal/accepted in Egypt and Persia and limited to the nobility with the Incas and Japanese. The only type of sibling incest I could find in Pre-Christian Europe is in Germanic and Roman mythology.
>>565825272>The distinction implies that one can have not played the game, but still not be a secondaryCorrect. A secondary is somebody who did not play the game but interacts with the fanbase as though they're a fellow fan of the medium.
>>565793242I did not know there was more of this.Why the hell is there more of this
>>565825473Let a girl piss, man.
>>565794037Funny how many instances of Chrisposting there were back in the day.
>>565807806Very nice. I wish there were more art depicting how brutal the things that their chibi sprites do are.
>>565814975The true religion of the one and only Nemlei's revelations. May Nemlei (swt) guide us all.
Nemesis. Nem a sis. Freud speaks of this.
>>565824716As one of the resident social incest program advocates and nerds, I feel the need to state>RomansThey didn't. They considered it a universal immorality.>GreeksOnly Ptolemaics as far as I know, which they mostly took from the Egyptians.But I will concede that during prehistoric times very close consanguine marriage was probably much more prevalent. Imagine hundreds and thousands of years of human history and ancestry. The incest taboo within societies is probably very recent in comparison. But incest doesn't need permission from history to be not wrong so I feel like this conversation really only matters when some delphobic scum says that incest was never accepted throughout history in any society.
>>565827215Pottery.
Douglas Graves – Dug Less Graves / Dug GravesRenee Graves – Renee G –> RenegeAshley Graves – Leyley Graves –> Lays in GravesAndrew Graves – And Drew Graves
>>565827296>They didn't. They considered it a universal immoralityThen why didn't they just ban it outright? 10% of marriages in the empire were between siblings
>>565828103Jesse
>>565829734Anon on antipsychotics:>I am a husk, a shell of a man, my existence is without purpose, I am audience to my own realityAnon when he comes off them:>My cock is an acorn. It has no sexual power. I deserve my bull. I deserve to have my weed stolen.
This nigga's lost his marbles.
>>565829734>>565830201You're not the fun kind of schizo, unsubscribing from your newsletter.
I wonder if this is the same guy who freaks out every time the jannies patrol his ass.
>>565825430NTA, but there's some limited evidence indicating it could have been legal in Bronze Age Anatolia and Mesopotamia. Too inconclusive to draw firm conclusions, but it leaves the possibility open.Also, the Balinese of Indonesia had a weird schizo attitude toward brother-sister twincest where it was simultaneously cursed (needing a ritual to atone for its evil) and blessed (it was ultimately permitted as 'fated' and had positive associations with heroes from Balinese myth). However ONLY brother-sister twins were allowed marriage. Non-twin incest remained prohibited.Overall though, yeah. Full-sibling incest was the historical exception and not the norm, as much as I wish it were otherwise. Pre-Islamic Persia and Greco-Roman Egypt were the only full exceptions that we can be 100% sure of. Everything else is always limited in some way: elite only, half-siblings only, twins only, etc. Even "older sister-younger brother only," in the case of one tribe I read about, although that one was a bit more speculative.>>565827296>Only Ptolemaics as far as I know, which they mostly took from the Egyptians.Seleucid Greeks probably did too. Evidence for this is the confirmed sibling marriages within the dynasty itself (Laodice IV is a very notable case), as well as the confirmed full-sibling marriages among Greeks in Seleucid towns shortly after the Seleucids' fall. It's not 100% decisive, since it remains possible they began engaging in it only after the fall of the Seleucids, but given what we know from Egypt, I still estimate that it more likely began during the Seleucids since the situation was so similar: ruling Greek minority, settled in an area with local traditions that were permissive of sibling incest, under the rule of a dynasty that set an example by practicing it themselves.
So this is the guy behind the uptick in samefag accusations, right?
Andrew there are too many words in this book, can you get me one with more pictures?
>>565831505Got one for you!
>>565831490I don't think so. Samefag accusations tend to go hand-in-hand with somebody clearly coming here to stir up shit. To re-iterate a point I made in the previous thread, you have to consider how consistent some of these patterns are.>Make outrageous claim that skirts the edge of something a person could plausibly believe: either something the target audience would find morally reprehensible, or an inversion of the truth>Never directly refute somebody's point, simply keep re-asserting the initial premise or rabbit-hole them down a tangentAnd optionally, depending on how emotionally invested the person is in the attempt to stir shit>If they receive multiple replies, accuse them of samefagging (still never actually address their points directly)>Declare yourself the majority, use plurals to refer to yourself and singular to refer to your detractor(s)>Accuse others of what you are doingBasically tl;dr samefag accusations are just another form of bait most of the time.
>>565832156
>>565828103You know too much.
>>565831313>Seleucid Greeks probably did tooInteresting, never heard of that. And they were ruling over Iranic lands too, maybe that's where they got it from?
I'm your biggest fanI'll follow you until you love mePapa-paparazziBaby, there's no other superstarYou know that I'll beYour papa-paparazziShoutout to the anon who posted Gaga in the last thread, I forgot how good she is
can the retard who obsess over incest fuck off to /b/ and just make a thread there? so sick of seeing this off topic shit
>>565834509Agreed, there is no incest in Divilethion. Honestly this whole general has gotten out of hand, now people just talk about this Coffin of Literally Who game instead!
>>565834509Nope.Incest game.Incest general.
>>565832101I mean, the moment this thread began, someone got told to buy an ad for posting a Slipknot song. The shitposting is getting worse.
>>565833047That's the most straightforward and sensible explanation. When you look at all the Greek and Hellenistic dynasties who practiced full-sibling marriage, you can always link them someway to either Egyptian or Persian culture. Hecatomnids (Greek Satraps under Persian rule), Seleucids (ruled over the Zoroastrian parts of the former Achaemenid empire), Ptolemies (Egypt), Orontids (mixed Greco-Iranians), and Pontus (Hellenized Persians).
>>565834972>The shitposting is getting worseNot really. It's getting gayer and lower-effort, but nothing beats some of the Chapter 2 days, or even the Chapter 3a release shitposting in terms of awfulness.
>>565833047They ruled over Mesopotamia and Persia at their peak but gradually declined until they ruled a small piece of Mesopotamia and were eventually either (I think) conquered by the Romans or simply collapsed.>>565834509No
>>565835135I wasn't here for the first 5~ days after 3A released since I wanted to avoid spoilers and needed to allocate time to play the new chapter. But I remember April–June being extremely high quality discussion, much more so than the Episode 2 /soc/ faggotry.
>>565833835You a real onehttps://files.catbox.moe/3adwy1.mp4>Promise I'll be kind>But I won't stop until that boy is mine>Baby you'll be famous>Chase you down until you love me>Papa>PaparazziGod please tell me the catbox link works please
>>565835724There was plenty of high quality discussion, but conversely there was a LOT of really bad shitposting and repeated bait. Not as bad as some of those chapter 2 days, but noteworthy.
/calg/, please call your sister. You might sort out some years-long trouble.
>>565836141She's in the other room doing Nemlei knows what, I don't need to do that right now.
>>565836241Are you the same guy who was worrying about eavesdropping on his ill sister masturbating?
>>565835826I need to get into Gaga. I kinda wrote her off since it was on the radio when I was like 10, but now I get why>God please tell me the catbox link works pleaseNope, sorry. Catbox has been fucked raw lately
>>565835826It's downloading really slowly, like 7 kilobytes/s
>>565836141I live with her
>>565836241As a male brother haver, I don't get how is it awkward to just barge in.
>>565837410Talk to her!
>>565775997>Oh baby that's tripleI wanna see Coffin on the PS Triple
>>565837802>As a male brother haverAs opposed to a female brother haver?
>>565839607I think the implication is that he is a male, and has a brother.
>>565836297No but I remember him lol>>565837802Yeah I do that too but now, why would I? That would be rude and I'm not rude. Though I did once get in there when she wasn't home and look for panties. I still feel guilty about that, even though I was just a horny teen.
>>565837964I do, I talk to her and spend time with her everyday. We have been rewatching AOT together recently.
My girlfriend Julia
>>565839710Yeah... I realized that after hitting post
>>565837078>>565837409I am going to kill myself and all of /calg/ with me (I'm not going to hell alone)https://file.garden/aep0ht7dt0EuhYy0/paparazzi%20edit.mp4>inb4 Thomas the "ain't clicking that shit nigga" EngineYou will click this link like a good little slut and honour my post NAO, Daddy is NOT in the mood kitten.
>>565840369
>>565839945kys hussie lover
>>565840639YOU CLICK THAT FILE GARDEN LINK RIGHT NOW YOU LITTLE SHIT, I CAN'T FIND NO WORKING CATBOX FOR YOU AT THIS GODDAMN HOUR
>>565840369ts ass fr bruh oml
>>565840657You're mean
>>565797129>Six Seven somehow witnesses Ashley's epic demonolatry abilities>tries to make her part of the cult>Andrew sees right through it and tries to stop Ashley but she's too mad at him to listen>stalks her into the cult, kills the bartender she asks help from>at the cult>Ashley summons ???>Six Seven goes "wtf" because he wanted Lord Unknown not this fart cloud>suddenly Andrew pulls up to the ritual>dials the Big Unknown's number>giant demon god shows up to terrorize Club 6FU>Six Seven teams up with ??? as a last ditch effort>Ashley finally sees how hecking evil the cult and Six Seven is>with the power of love and friendship, they team up and do a last kamehameha at the cult leader>while Lord Unknown eats the little fumeball ???>"Heh. We're the same, you and me." says Six Seven>"I'm nuthin' like you grampa." says Chaddrew and throws his cigarette on the ground which ignites the whole place on fire>"Wow I think this really was a Coffin of Andy and Leyley." says Ashley>What I've Done by Linkin Park starts playing>credits role to the marriage and 10 children epilogue endingBravo Nemlei
>>565840831Don't yell at me!! I don't like filegarden, it just doesn't feel the same! I want catbox. Get me catbox Anondy! CATBOX!!
>>565841106>Ashley (not Leyley) will return in Avengers: Doomsday
>Yeah… It’s leylin’ time
>I'm positively FUMING about this!>Time to hit the gas!>Your judgement is clouded.>Fart niggaLeaked lines from 3B.
>>565842193This anon was brutally leyled in the summer of '96
Leyleyin' makes me feel good.
Andrewmaxing will make me god.
I've been Andrewminimizing to become the ideal brotherhusband, or "brosband" if you will.
Hussymaxxing
>>565836141sister might be moving back in with our family, very happy i'll get to see her again
>>565840369>>565840831wtf are you talking about, i've literally used catbox and it worked finehttps://litter.catbox.moe/re46x4az97f9f8rd.jpg
>>565845392More like bruh-sband lmao
>>565846923I specifically and deliberately skirted around that, and somehow did not consider that somebody else would immediately draw that connection. Fart nigga, indeed.
>>565845574REAL
>>565836141I don't have one of those but I haven't talked to my brother in like six months. Maybe I should text him.
>>565849419What do you even say if you want to randomly reach out to someone like that?Asking for a friend.
>>565852767>What do you even say if you want to randomly reach out to someone like that?Try any good bussy lately?
>>565845839Good to hear! You plan to give her a kiss hello?
>>565846159for those who didnt managed to saw the image in timeit basically was: futa renee pegging leyley (in other words: loli ashley) in the ass
>>565861028Isn’t pegging with a fully functional cock just fucking
>>565863031I wanna live on Burger St, Ashleyville
>>565863031
>>565863406https://www.marshallwalker.com/listings/view/824-burger-street-charleston-sc-26010509.htmlGet it while it's hot.
>>565863031How far away from each other are these?
>>565861028I looked that up and came across some shit with Andrew having a dream about fucking loli Renee.Wonder what Ashley or Renee would say if they caught Andrew jorkin his penits to his mom’s youth photos
>>565864258Pre-doxxed???~can’t afford~
>>565864282It's a long long way to Ashleyville~But my hearts right there~
Kek
>>565863406Why is there SO much fanart of Ashley eating burgers?
>>565867727post some
>>565867727It's from the Pomni eating a burger trend
>>565869670One was a genre defining cultural event that changed my life forever, and the other was Digital Circus.
>>565859519haven't done that kinda shit with her for over like 6+ years lol, a hug will prob suffice
>>565872223>genre definingHave we settled on a genre name? Nemleivania? Coffinlike? Incest 'em up?
>>565873047Delphic Vrill
>>565873047Coffin is a dark romance formatted as a very by-the-numbers adventure game.
>>565872649Never say never!
>>565873047Beat 'em up
I KNEW THE GRAVES WERE JEWISH
>>565877556That’s that fag from beauty and the beast not a minora
I saw some moralfag on twitter complaining about Nemlei making this drawing, as Nemlei not taking her game about incest seriously, when the context of the drawing was it came from back from May 18 2023 which was back way before episode 2 was made and only episode 1 was finished. You can go to the game's steam news page and find it there.Like it was within the context of Nemlei teasing her fans on wanting more information about the game, it was never in response to any "backlash or criticism". Even if it was, who fucking cares?
>>565878660Forgot to post picture
>>565878660>it was never in response to any "backlash or criticism"I wonder if this line from Ashley is meant to be meta commentary:
>>565879981I doubt it. That was written before the controversy of the episode 2 sex vision. Coffin didn't really get that controversial until episode 2.
>>565880060There was still a shitstorm in the Episode 1 days, if old mate Inky is anything to go by.
Do you think we'll see Julia in Burial? Does she have death flags in that route, you think?
>>565881182I think Julia got away clean. The worst thing that'll happen to her in Burial is another mean phone call.
>>565865027I understood that reference
>>565878939Look at how they’re posed lolAlso the latest edition of these sort of shenanigans is an ending where Andrew kills them both over not getting incest sexNemlei 100% doesn’t take the criticism seriously nor should she
Now that the dust has settled, were the puzzles in 3A too hard?
>>565883243Only if you're retarded
>>565883243Yes.>t. retard
>>565883835Thanks Ashley
>>565884013But Ashley is the one who solves the forest puzzles for you if Andrew is too retarded at navigation. SMARTLEY!
>>565881803The granddaughter herself is incestuous? I'll forgive this as a likely ESL mistake, since being a product of incest does not make you yourself incestuous.
>>565884113Not to mention she figures out every one in the tower without issue.
>>565884113Ashley is genuinely smart and perceptive with the only glaring blind spot being in regard to herself. Ashley very much Smartley.
>>565886753She lets Andrew do too much of her thinking for her. She's DUMB because she's ALWAYS SKIPPING BRAIN DAY.
>>565887927Ashley is smartley
Andrew is lowkey a fag for not letting Ashley call him Andy. I mean he’s a shithead in other ways most notably normieforming to be like “waaaghh incest is baaaad” despite his true emotions and the fact they just ate parent soupBut why he have to be so mad about Andy? Just looks silly having a conniption about that
>>565889070Performative maturity, that's why.
>>565889070Please don't give Andrew shit for the one thing he did right. Andy isn't just a humiliation ritual for Andrew but also a sign for Ashley that she's free to be an ungrateful fucking idiot who doesn't need to put any work in. Andy is a safe object that never reciprocates or asks anything of her.
>>565889849Nah pretty sure other anon got it>>565889639
>>565890960Believe it or not but Andrew does care about Ashley and would like her to stop being a little cunt
>>565842193Nemlei's writing is really getting worse and worse becaue what the hell was this..?
Andrew is a master at stealth sistit groping
>>565867727One of the anons is obsessed with the idea of cute girls eating burgers, and he had told me to draw one for this aggie as well. I wouldn't be surprised if he even commissioned all the other fanart of Burgershley out there.
>>565891383On a serious note, I still don't like the changes she made to the high school flashbacks. The original line was perfectly subtle, but Nemlei just had to put on her media literacy goggles and fuck with this scene.
>>565891665>I still don't like the changes she made to the high school flashbacksThis desu. Every other revision I can live with, but this one just makes it feel like the audience is retarded. it kind of is, but still
>>565891665Not to mention this >>565842389 like what the fuck was that? Did it HAVE to say that?
>>565891384He can't keep getting away with it!!
>>565891981Very subtle. Very professional. Chef's kiss.
>>565892083Andrew... you can't keep doing this. Your swag too different. Your grope too subtle. Your bitch too bad. They will kill you.
Fun fact: Winston Churchill famously detested men who weren't at least somewhat interested in having sex with their sisters. He had this to say about Hitler after he came into power: "He doesn't drink, he doesn't smoke, and I bet you Gibraltar he doesn't fuck his sister."
I found this file from 2021. Proto-Ashley
>>565893502Anon suffering from AshleidoliaNo new coffin content causes mental illness
>>565893260Big if true.
Sorry...
Ashley takes it up the ass
Karugo, I am going to have a nap.
>>565886753>Ashley is genuinely smartStop posting, Ashley
>>565903437Ashley, that's not a pentagram...
>>565903437>>565903582She knows
>>565903437>>565903728>Shit. Let's get out of here, Andy.
If they were really kikes they'd look like the shop keeper.
>>565891662#300 was the best aggie by far
>>565893502I didn't know Ashley was an elf
https://x.com/i/status/2051413195986718878
>>565912031Kek
>Ashley, may I six seven your big naturals?And you guys say Nemlei's writing has gotten worse.
https://files.catbox.moe/6vrq7e.mp4
>>565802978>why not criminalize the act of inbreeding instead of incest then?Because it criminalises an unborn innocent child.
>>565919114I'm not sure statesmen care about that given abortion is legal, and in some countries mandatory if the fetus has down syndrome.
>>565919339Since when was it mandatory to abort downies?
>>565915630I always like seeing the Loveit art
>>565919459I know Iceland does it.
Golden week means golden bikini!https://files.catbox.moe/ixiwmd.jpg
>>565919114>>565919339... >>565812350
I remember the narrator in Episode 1 saying that Ashley's artistic abilities have not improved since the very very quiet drawing.
>>565818781I read that as Jane Devlog and thought we finally had a face reveal...
>>565919114Countries used to mandate sterilization for retards. Under the muh mutant babies argument for banning incest, there's no conceivable reason not to make an elective bargain instead: fuck all you want, but one of you is going to have to get your vasectomy/tubes tied.Obviously not saying this should be done for prospective brother-sister couples, but IF negative consequences of inbreeding are the reason incest is prohibited, this would be the most morally consistent solution since it addresses the central issue just like a total prohibition, but doesn't entail punishing innocents.
>>565921528Can't be bothered to find the original post but I remember an anon floating the idea that in a "good ending" the drawing would be more well-done and less childish to reflect Ashley finally maturing, and I really like that idea and hope it happens.
>>565922943Fuck....I NEED it.
Perhaps we should slow down with the images because we're gonna hit the file limit on post 680 at the current rate.
>>565926207>image board>file limit is less than bump limitFuck this shit
I want Andrew to hug Ashley
Why doesn't Kit9 release a MacOS version of TCOAAL? RPG Maker MV supports exporting for MacOS.
>>565927770Kit9 hates Apple products, he's a Windows/Linux supremacist
I think we can agree that Andrew was a two-timing whore. But who did he cheat on first? Julia, or Ashley?
>>565928750I think Andrew's relationship with Ashley only became overtly romantic after he started dating Julia, so I say he cheated on Julia first.
>>565927584I need him to tell her how much he loves her. I need him to make her realize how gorgeous, how adorable she is.
>>565927770>Mac>for gaming
>>565930117>t. microsoft shill
>>565930354>implying
>>565930453this was unironically my sister when i installed Mint on her (actually mine) PC lol>I'm so andrew
I'm reminded, maybe a month and a half ago someone here asked if Coffin is special compared to other games, and an Anon replied that Coffin isn't exactly up there with the greatest games of all time, pointing to the writing specifically. I just can't agree. We wouldn't have had an unbroken, healthy general for 3+ years if there weren't something magical about this game. Compare that to other indie horrors: MiSide is a much newer game that also blew up, but it was clearly a FOTM game; ever since the initial hype died out, 40% of its generals have been prematurely bumped off the catalog and /mita/ averages 18 days between bakes. Coffin is more than a FOTM game and I felt that even in the Episode 1 era.Which leaves a question for everyone: is Coffin among your favourite games of all time? Is it perhaps the greatest of all time, in your view?
>>565934159Coffin is MAYBE in the top 100 best indie games of all time, it isn't close at all to being in the conversation for greatest games in the 50+ year history of video games.
>>565934159>Which leaves a question for everyone: is Coffin among your favourite games of all time? Is it perhaps the greatest of all time, in your view?Its pretty good, its probably the one of the best games of its genre that I have actually played considering I sat down and played the entire game in one long ass sitting. I think how the game will be remembered will largely depend on how good the finished product will be.
>>565934464>it isn't close at all to being in the conversation for greatest games in the 50+ year history of video games.Because of the gameplay or because of the story?
>>565934159It's hard to classify Coffin as my "favorite game" of all time because the gameplay itself is not why I'm there. It works well, it does add to the experience in a way sitting through a slideshow wouldn't, but it's not what I'm there for. It's arguably the best sibling incest story ever written, at least in the English or Japanese-speaking world, which I think deserves recognition in its own right for a genre which is bogged down with moralizing baggage, woman moments fucking up the ending, or outright pornography.
>>565936663>woman momentsNemlei's already had a few...
>>565937571I can assure you that she has not. You'll know a literary woman moment when you see it, trust me.
If Burial and Decay aren't going to share any content, how the hell is Burial going to make sense for a first-time player without the HUGE backstory we got in 3A? I know a lot of 3A's backstory could already be inferred from Episode 1 and 2, but Princessley's heartbreak is a defining moment in her character that cannot be glossed over if 3B is going to focus on her.
>>565938143You have to play both to understand everything. There's zero sense in rehashing all of that stuff for a second route.
>>565938080>Fucking with the pacing, mystique and horror atmosphere of Episode 1 by adding some explanations of the water company's logistics and explicitly calling the starvation an error>Media literacy goggles in the high school flashbacks>Some people loading up their old save file when Burial comes out will now get a joke ending where Andrew kills himself because he didn't get any pussyHow much more woman can you get?
>>565938313I just fear Burial won't stand on its own in a way Decay can.
>>565927770>implying gaming companies gives a shit about macOS>>565928014>Kit9 hates Apple productsnot only Kit9, but ALMOST EVERY game companies, including Valve, doesnt have a extension for macOShell, even free and cheapest games like Minecraft and Roblox doesn't have this shit eithershowing HOW irrelevent macOS is to gaming industry
>>565938508You clearly don't understand what constitutes a "woman moment" and are just calling the things you don't like such.
>>565938653Hypothetically, what would be a woman moment from Nemlei going forwards? Andrew getting back with Julia or something?
>>565938821A woman moment would have to be something like a sharp and completely unhinged turn in the story that retroactively sours the whole thing. Something like Andrew and Ashley going their separate ways and living normal lives or some shit like that.
>>565938962>Something like Andrew and Ashley going their separate ways and living normal lives or some shit like that.I think they could separate, but it wouldn't be mutual. Call me a woman, but Ashley growing up in any capacity hinges on rejecting the piece of shit that Andrew currently is. If she matures but he doesn't, there could be a falling out, and Yanderew isn't gonna like that. Not one bit.
>>565939343Either character leaving the other one makes no sense.
>>565938508>Andrew kills himself because he didn't get any pussyReminder that Andrew is an incel. The only two women he scored were through manipulation.
>>565940059>incel>had sexWords have ceased to mean things
>>565940169An incel is somebody who cannot get sex without manipulation/coercion/rape/prostitution
>>565940285Words have ceased to mean things.
>>565940341Mutual consent is literally the entire point
>>565940692No, it fucking isn't. In – Involuntary. Cel – Celibate. Involuntarily celibate, in other words celibate—being devoid of sex—not by choice, but because of a deficiency or inability to engage in sex. That is literally what it means, to not have had sex because you can't, because somebody will not let you put your penis in their vagina. Period. That is what it means.
>>565940908>not by choice>somebody will not let youThat's exactly the thing. I think we both understand that a rape victim does not let their rapist have sex with them, and as a society we also understand that rape by deception is a thing., which is obviously an extreme example but I point it out to show that there are certain things we think about when weighing the legitimacy of sex. If Andrew didn't take advantage of Julia, would he have fucked her? Probably not.
>>565940059Romance is manipulative by its very nature. So much as dressing appropriately to not look like a retard, or trying to make the best impression is a calculated effort to make someone else like you more. You intentionally don't talk about all the times you spelled your spaghetti or did something cringe, and so on. Some manipulation is just considered more morally acceptable than other kinds.
>>565941496>and as a society we also understand that rape by deception is a thingNo, that's some shit retarded women made up, first of all. Second of all an incel is not somebody who "manipulated" a girl into having sex with him, if you can "manipulate" a girl into having sex with you you're not an incel, she wanted to have sex with you. This obviously does not include cases of coercion or blackmail, but if you pretend to be cooler than you actually are and a woman fucks you, she wanted to have sex with you.I'm so fucking tired of reading therapybrained foidbabble.
These threads would be so much more peaceful if we all just talked about how much we love Julia all the time
>>565941791>>and as a society we also understand that rape by deception is a thing>No, that's some shit retarded women made upIf you got a blowjob from a "chick" who swore they were female, but you found out after the fact that it was actually a man in a dress, don't tell me you wouldn't feel violated lol.
>>565942126>Acting as though you can't immediately tellEveryone knows it's a tranny lmao. It's actually good you bring that analogy up, because any sort of violation I would have felt afterward or outcry I would have made would be to avoid responsibility for my choices and actions rather than because of something that was done to me without my consent.
>>565942126Thank you Kant for this reminder about categorical imperatives.
>>565941791>I really did try to love Julia.
>>565940059>involuntary celibate>looks inside>literally says "yeah i'm not celibate"
>>565942385Another way to invalidate consent is lying about one's age, and I'll pre-empt you saying "Everyone knows they were under 18 lmao" by saying my mother is a tall fucking woman who was visiting casinos in high school without being asked for her ID.
>>565943414>Another way to invalidate consent is lying about one's ageThat's not invalidating consent, retard. You consented to the sex act; you were physically attracted to the other person and implicitly or explicitly agreed to have sex with them. The question is whether you are criminally liable for the sex act, not whether you consented to it.
>>565943657
>>565943851>make illogical argument>don't engage with the refutation in any way>call person brownI should have known better, it was too perfect to be something someone seriously believed.
>>565922943This has been theorized mutliple times before, and you know what that means. Every theory on /calg/ that has been stated multiple times and head-canonized here eventually turns out to be true (except the ones that turned out not to be true that I'm possibly not remembering) (none exists).
>>565944018>I'm baiting because I think honesty and trust and consent (things white society is built on) were not in fact invented by feminists in the last 50 yearsWhat can I say other than "you're brown" when you keep moving goalposts to avoid admitting that the Quran is wrong about consent? You just claimed that getting jugaad'd into agreeing to sex is completely legitimate consent, when the logistics of agreement would be considered null and void for literally every arrangement other than sex.
>>565928750>>565929467You're born married to your sister. Maybe not all siblings but the Graves definitely were.
>>565944892logistics of said agreement*
>>565939343>Andrew hating womanly anon seriously genuinely legit for real no joke thinks they could ever part ways because Ashley could realize her one and only lover is le piece of shitWater is wet, etc etc.
>>565944892What the fuck are you talking about you retard? Form a coherent, logical argument. The sex act requires physical attraction, you are physically attracted to the other person, you agree, under no form of duress, to have sex with them, and then find out later that they weren't as rich as they said they were, or that they play video games or some dumb shit, you don't then get to decide "oh actually I didn't consent after all." You can't logically refute this, so you resort to calling me brown and likening a sex act to a contractual obligation with entirely different governing rules of logic.I'm a genuine, actual racist and even I'm getting tired of people calling other people brown because every person who does this demonstrates they're a fucking low IQ retard whom I don't wish to be associated with.
>>565945272
>>565940285>An incel is somebody who cannot get sex without manipulation/coercion/rape/prostitutionlmao WHAT!?!
>>565942485>Kant posting on 4chan 9 minutes before his bedtimeTruly history's most productive man
>>565945530It's bait.
>>565944892>avoid admitting that the Quran is wrong about consent?If you're the anon that thought I was a thirdy for saying sex with verbal consent isn't rape, I should assure you I am not the one you're talking to lol.
>>565945298>you don't then get to decide "oh actually I didn't consent after all."If giving consent is conditional on xyz (such as the other person not being a minor), and they lie about this, then the consent conditions were never met and thus consent never existed. This is extremely easy to understand and I don't even consider myself a feminist.
>>565945852Bait.
>>565945369Yeah I'm too old for this. Let anons engage with you.
>>565945530No one in the history of ever has said that raping someone or hiring a prostitute revokes your incel status
>>565945852But the real question is:Does such a lie create legal liability?
>>565946023Not him but how does that reconcile manipulation? Women are so retarded you can manipulate them accidentally. Or rather, what do you mean by manipulation?
>>565946023>be celibate>have sex>no longer celibateseems logical to me!
>>565946148It's not even a real take, it's unimaginably stupid because it treats consent like a contractual obligation, which is the most longhoused bullshit imaginable.>Woman has sex with you because she loves you, and only for that reason>She decides actually she never loved you>So now all of that sex was actually rapeIt's insane, it's obviously insane, which is why it's obviously bait.
>>565946148The law states that fraudulent inducement also applies to sex
>>565946228>Women are so retarded you can manipulate them accidentally.Scholar.
>>565946263There's the involuntary part, though I guess one voluntarily rapes a woman
>>565946376>which is why it's obviously bait.Does this give me a legal excuse to post cute images?
>>565946376>the law is bait
>>565946735Correct.>>565946676Yes.
Great to see cal/g/ still has the lawyerly argumentation bait from one guy and his proxies to keep this place alive.
>>565946867>lawyerlyIt's feminism. Legalism requires logic.
I'm so sleepy, but I can't go to sleep no matter how sleepy I am. I want to fucking die.Is there some anon here that knows about shit like this? How about those guys who talk about meditation and "state akin to sleep" every once in a while here? I need advice, /calg/...
>>565947009Do you maintain a regular, semi-rigid sleep schedule?
>>565946867Bump duty's a good job mate. Challenging work. Indoors. I guarantee you'll not go hungry. Because at the end of the day, as long there are two threads left on the catalog, someone is gonna want someone archived.
>>565946942>Legalism requires logic.I thought it required jews... Does this mean I don't need to pay for all those Israelites on my payroll?
>>565947239>I guarantee you'll not go hungry.Lies, I haven't been paid my monthly for this month. In fact, I've never been paid ever!
>>565946942>feminism is when a man doesn't have to go to prison when a girl lies about her age
>>565947276Jewish legalism is funny because taken to its most logical conclusion it's the most insane, bad-faith shit imaginable. For example, the Talmud (one giant account of legal debates, essentially) says that if you tie a man down and he starves to death because you refused to give him food, you didn't kill him, his body killed itself because he didn't eat.
>>565947487That's obviously not what I was referring to, but you know that, don't you? Also>proxiesSamefag allegations and bait go together like oreos and milk.
>>565947156I used to, I would go to "bed" (couch) at 00:00 and wake up a few hours afterwards and go to actual bed, maybe stay awake for a little while before being able to do so, then wake up at around 9-10. I would sleep on the couch because my brother (whom I share a room with) would be awake until like 4 in our room and would NOT able to sleep with him awake in the room, so I would sleep on the couch until then. I kinda don't like my bed either, the couch (or odd places to sleep) feels much comfier than an actual designated sleeping spot for some reason. But my brother won't be home for a few months, and I have our room all to myself, and now my mind works the night shift and keeps me awake thinking.I'm sorry for the blogpost, I just wanted to talk.
>>565944892>when you keep moving goalposts to avoid admitting that the Quran is wrong about consentI skimmed the argument and when did the Quran come up???
>>565947654>That's obviously not what I was referring toNo, you were not referring to a male example of consent. You were however referring to consent broadly and calling it an invention of feminists in the last 50 years. If the man being spared prison isn't feminazism, then neither is anything else I've said.
>>565948127>You were however referring to consent broadly and calling it an invention of feminists in the last 50 yearsI already said you were baiting you don't need to convince me further
>>565941791>>565948243
>>565948432>referring to consent broadly>referring to an extremely narrow aspect of itLike I said: bait.
>>565948516How is the male example not downstream???
>>565947654>>565948243>>565948516What's the point of claiming every post is bait if you're going to reply anyway? Replying makes it pretty clear that you don't actually think it's bait and are just trying to get the last word in without having an actual rebuttal>inb4 samefagYeah, I've said many times this general is just me and my 99 proxies replying to myself
>>565948742>What's the point of claiming every post is bait if you're going to reply anywayfair enough.
>>565948516Then stop addressing him retard
Sorry Chad, it's 2026. The incel gets the girl now.
I told you we should've all agreed to say nice things about Julia
>>565949108She really is the sweetest bundle of love there is.
>>565948961>Just be nice to your sister bro>said ChadrewIncesters here don't tell you that you still have to not be ugly to wife up your sister...
>>565949281She's such a delicate and kind little angel. Even after being wronged so much, she doesn't hold hate in her heart
>>565949281Just an absolute faggot of adoration
>>565949659>absolute faggot of adorationBut enough about Thiu
>>565949321I got drunk with my sister on the weekend and at some point I asked her if she's willing to marry me. I don't remember what we were talking about or how I was inspired to ask this. Anyways she said she doesn't believe in marriage as an institution (I already knew that), so I said I need to kill myself now
>>565950062She's your sister, she's already married to you dumbass.
>>565949659Stealing this one
Stick.
>>565951301Brickley!
Nyeh!
Surprise your sister with a cheeseburger
>>565951527Nyooooooooooooooooo!
Surprise your sister with a stuffed animal
>>565953448Stuff your sister
>>565953552Sisterdermy
Surprise your sister by fertilizing her aching womb
>>565944892What do you even mean by white society? I assume you mean Anglo-Saxon nations, honesty and consent kind of contributed to the success of North Europeans but I believe our success is more to do with Protestantism (primarily the old/mainline sects) and industrial revolution.
>>565949321Yeah you still have to not be ugly but the bar is probably lower assuming the Westermarck Effect is not affecting your sister, this is due to genetic sexual attraction.
>>565912031i love her so much
>>565934159It's probably my top 3 most favourite game under Disco Elysium and Nine Sols.
>>565934159>>565934464Coffin is the only game I play for fun anymore. Every other game I play (EU4, Skyrim, HOI4, Factorio, etc.) I play purely to pass the time, normally while listening to a podcastCoffin is the only game I can say I derive deep enjoyment out of rather than general pleasantness until I look down at the clock and see that 3 hours have gone by
>>565955278>under anythingGET OUT HERETIC
>>565957141I play Coffin on repeat
Just got two brekky wraps from Hungry Jack's and they were fucken delicious, but while I was there they were playing this song with the lyrics "You're the better half of me" and I visibly nempogged (Nemlei pogged) inside of the Hungry Jack's restaurant. One ups to these cunts for representing Nemlei's previous games.
>>565944892Hey jeetanon, it seems like you are insecure about your own skin colour and project your frustrations onto other people. I cannot think of another reason why you might bring the holy Qur'an up, and use it as a weapon to try and win arguments on an anonymous imageboard, other than you yourself being a jeet; an angry one, fuelled by hatred for Islam, Pakistan, and all that is good. But I am not worried, for there is only Juhannam for your kind. Allah forgives all but shirk, and, furthermore, He knows what you are doing.
>>565959632>JuhannamIs this Julia hell kek
>>565956672It's funny how people took Leyley for a super nasty kid amused by gross stuff, yet she freaked out over a spider in 3A lol
>>565959748Does Julia publicly defaecate on streets, then use her dirty fingers to type phone posts on imageboards, while believing in multiple gods? If so, then yes.
>>565960115She's done worse, which is being a floozie.
>>565959632Holy BASED, putting that kuffar in his place
>>565959953Was that before they killed Nina or after?
>>565961047Before, it's when Andrew needs to escort her out of the bog
https://x.com/_artbydean/status/2050481841417642220
>>565959632>Muslim indians vs. hindu indiansIt will never not be funny. Either way, calling someone "brown" for adhering to a rational definition of consent is insane for a multitude of reasons, not least of which being that if you compare 1950's America (when it was overwhelmingly white) to 2020's America (majority nonwhite) you'll find that the latter has greatly expanded on what is considered rape. That's not me saying that's necessarily a bad thing, but it's a literal inversion of reality.
Sisterburgers
>>565964868McSisters. Mick sisters.
>>565970447Third Imphagt
>Only 20 percent of subjects said it was OK for Julie and Mark to have sexI wonder if that number would be higher today.
>>565971487>JulieShe is in my eyesShe is in my earsShe is in my bloodShe is in my tears
>>558127276
>>565951301Stickley!
>>565970447I hope we get more Eva vibes from this game. The TV teaser for the next episode was kino
>>565978912I just wish the light novel didn't get cancelled. I'm probably the only one but it was good for seeing 302 Lady and the Cultist's backstory and fleshing out the apartment building some more.
>>565980429I agree, the cultist's backstory was basically this game's Better Call Saul, and arguably superior to the source material.
>>565980429>>565980573>make the main characters' behavior in the main story nonsensical>needless tie-ins like Rebecca being Grandpa Graves' illegitimate daughter >cringeworthy attempt to make the cult some political statement about "organized religion"They're trash and belong in the trash.
>>565980573>arguably superiorBCS mogs the shit out of BB, and I love them both.
Likelihood of June devlog?
>>56598609135+/-5%
>>565986091100%, because updates always include a log
Julia Julia Julia Julia Julia Julia AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA I LOVE HER SO MUCH
>>565962848>2020's America (majority nonwhite) you'll find that the latter has greatly expanded on what is considered rapeProbably to deal with the influx of brown people raping women
>>565957141You don't have fun LARPING in EU4 or HOI4?
>>565959481If you want a good and cheap brekky get the big brekky deal from Maccas, you get two mcmuffins of your choice, two hashbrowns and a coffee for $15 (it used to be $12 but they jacked the fucking price up). I don't recommend getting it often cause its unhealthy as fuck but its pretty fucking good if you're treating yourself.
>>565971487>I wonder if that number would be higher today.Probably not? I guess it'd be around the same, like the picrel states: most people are inherently sheeps and will enforce/maintain status quo cultural norms (independent of whether they are either effective or detrimental).
I miss this BPD Korean
>>565992479Watasi, my belovedi can fix her
i really really like imagining Ashley as my sister and imagining us living together in the rural south and doing stupid hillbilly shit together. she'd sound awful cute with a southern accent.
>>565992679idgaf if her face was busted, would breed that asian whore to pieces
>>565934159>We wouldn't have had an unbroken, healthy general for 3+ yearsYou think this gen is healthy? 90% of it is blog posts about anons wanting to fuck their sisters and schizo philosophical rants about why incest is morally correct.
>>565996853When you put it like that it's actually very healthy.
Is there a single moment or scene in this game that sold you on it the first time experiencing it? To be honest my first time going in, I had a pretty open mind not knowing what to expect. People were saying it was a pornographic product, some people saying this and that about it. To my surprise it 100% was not pornograhpic. But the scene that sold me on this game 100% was the argument in room 302. That's what told me that this game was fucking insane and I had to see more.
>>565996853That's based.
>>565999617Honestly it was the first 10 minutes of Episode 1 when I noticed they weren't addressing each other as "bro" and "sis"; that's when I knew that Nemlei knew.
>>565995405wait, her face is busted?i wasnt even aware she did a face reveal
>>565990740Well, progressive expansions to laws regarding rape/consent lean more towards the subtler methods, which given popular sentiment in many circles isn't the concern with said population groups. Since this argument always comes up irt to SnS and Andrew with Julia I'll add my own thoughts to it:First, rape via fraud IS a real thing, but (at least in US law) only really applies to fraud in the factum, or cases of fraud in the inducement which, in the context of the act, is *effectively* in the factum. Essentially>this is a "medical" procedureFraud in the factum: rape.>woman agrees to wear a blindfold, then BF tags in an unknown third partyFraud in the inducement, but still rape.>Yeah I'm a pro assassin, wanna fuck?Fraud in the inducement, considered seduction and not rape even in states with the broadest interpretation.Consent laws use contract law as a templatw, but it doesn't carry over 1:1. (cont'd)
>>566001839>Andrew & JuliaWe only know Andrew's account of the first time, so it's hard to say, but with all context available: maybe sleazy, not rape.>Andrew and Ashley in SnS"Do whatever you want" is a very unenthusiastic yes, but it's still consent.>Ashley and Andrew leading into SnSVerbal "no," arousal does not mean consent in most cases, but interestingly probably would not be convicted via jury or outright dropped as it could be argued as the world's first defensive rape, plus bias toward women in the court system. Still technically rape though.
>>566002112>but it's still consentI don't think Ashley was in a position to credibly give consent. Andrew also knew she was only agreeing out of fear for her life.
>>566002112>>566002369What even happens if both parties can credibly claim to have been raped?
>>565996853>90% of it is blog posts about anons wanting to fuck their sisters and schizo philosophical rants about why incest is morally correcti.e. on topicwe're great for a general about a relatively short, unfinished 3 year old game
>>566002630Legally speaking the charges don't cancel each other out, so they'd still be liable for their individual actions. In other words, "they raped each other" is not an oxymoron.
Why did Nemlei do it?
Anyone know the artist? javifx returns nothing
I hope Julia has freckles on her ass
>>565996853Poor newfag traumatized by based /calg/. Lurk moar and you'll get used to it.
>>566002369Are you like female or something
>>566002369It's a tough case because there's layers to it. I'll start out with the simplest scenario (ignoring the myriad of other collateral crimes because holy shit).>Scenario 1: Immediately after that scene, Ashley calls the cops and says she was raped.Bruising consistent with recent/ongoing violence, evidence of sexual act performed. Ashley testifies she clawed at his back, judge signs off on warrant and Andrew has claw marks on his back consistent with her testimony. As prosecution this would meet the minimum threshold of evidence to go to trial, which I would certainly do within the scope of the given evidence. Jury likely convicts. Please note that the jury convicting does not mean the act was necessarily rape.>Scenario 2: We acquire video evidence from a mysterious blue cat accounting for everything the audience sees from Chapter 1 all the way to the SnS end of 3A including their inner-thoughtsCollateral crimes aside, based on the evidence available I would say it doesn't meet the minimum threshold of evidence to convict, even without exercising prosecutorial discretion. The violence perpetrated against Ashley was out of anger toward her in general, and was not contingent upon her having sex with him nor was it implied to. Secondly, Ashley initiated the first sex act of her own volition (well, raped him, but we're ignoring that) because of a coercion or threat which was neither expressed nor implied, she merely believed it was a necessary measure. Thirdly, based entirely on what can be observed from the totality of AVAILABLE evidence rather than conjecture, there doesn't exist an ongoing expressed or implied threat against Ashley contingent upon whether or not she has sex with him which would interfere with her ability to give consent. For the third point: while her belief there is a threat invalidates consent from her perspective, it still can't be classified as rape. For scenario 2: Does not go to trial.All in all, I would say: not rape.
>>566004202it's AI, traced by someonei reverse image searched it and got a civitai page
>>566005596I thought the disparity between the head and the body was a bit janky, guess that explains it.
>>566005226Consider that Nemlei is female and probably intended that scene to be read as rape.
>>566006124Consider that women don't generally don't like rape.>but rape fantasiesRape fantasies are a entirely different kettle of fish, hence the "fantasy" part. Women are in control of the fantasy, their lack of consent is effectively given with... well... consent, because it's their fantasy they are actively and consciously imagining the scenario in a manner they find arousing in a setting that exists entirely within the context of their absolute control.
All hetsex is rape because of the inherent power imbalance.
>>566006390>Consider that women don't generally don't like rape.I just want to make sure that the double negative is intentional because there is a valid case for reading this sentence both ways lol
>>566006428Sorry, it's unintentional because I'm stupid and don't proofread. What I meant was: women generally don't like rape.
>>566006489The look on Ashley's face is consistent with women generally not liking rape. I don't think Nemlei was glorifying that scene or trying to make a fetish out of it.
>>566005596Apparently there's a result on rule34.xxx but Google reverse image search doesn't take me to the correct page.
>>566006597Well, like I said earlier I strongly believe it's not rape, but I do agree that it also doesn't look like Nemlei gets off to that kind of thing. I consider myself pretty in-tune with the catstral plane in the sense that I feel a profound understanding of Nemmies' mindset, so I also feel like I can tell what is and is not her fetish. Most obviously, when it's male-male Nemlei is clearly into girly fagboys teasing slightly-less-girly fagboys. For male and female couples I would say she really enjoys forbidden romance with a bit of a dark twist to it. Andrew's possessiveness and occasional aggression in response to it is more squarely in her wheelhouse, whereas I think she doesn't find the outright violence or abuse arousing but *does* find it to be compelling because of how horrific it is.Allegedly.
>>566007345The only way it wouldn't be rape is if Andrew wasn't knowingly taking advantage of Ashley's fear response, but there's already a lot of evidence that he is. Just compare it to the previous CG (>>566002369) too and all I can gleam from this is that Ashley is going to get degraded.
>>566007646>but there's already a lot of evidence that he isIf you have any, feel free to present it. In order for it to constitute rape via coercion there needs to be a threat, either explicit or implicit, contingent upon whether the target agrees to engage in a sexual act. This fear of violence if she does not agree to sex exists entirely within Ashley's head in Scenario 2 from what the audience can reasonably infer given all available evidence, the implication of rape is conjecture based upon feeling rather than a rational assessment of the totality of the evidence because of the dark mood and obviously unenthusiastic agreement for him to do whatever he wants. From an emotional perspective the audience is permitted (and encouraged) to feel what it wants, but legally it's a different ball game.
>>566003059Nemnem when /calg/ points out the signpost sprites were rotated bilinearly making them blurry
>>566008242Counterpoint: sex. With sisters.
>>566007970Andrew isn't stupid and he knows what Ashley is thinking. He begged her the previous night to stop because she doesn't HAVE to do this, because he knows there's a very specific reason she was coming onto him (he almost murdered her a few hours ago) and he's aware that SHE felt like she had no other choice. Inspecting the bed before leaving the apartment in SnS also reveals that Andrew knows she doesn't actually want this, and that she is simply putting out to get something from him. From the night before, we know what "something" is: not getting killed.
>>566008242Rotation isn't a linear operationIt's the filtering that was bilinear
>>566008501That is what we in the business call, "conjecture." In order for you to be able to classify it as rape via coercion you need to be able to demonstrate beyond a reasonable doubt that:>A credible threat, whether explicit or implicit, exists contingent upon the alleged victim's agreement to the act of sex>The alleged perpetrator continued with the act knowing of the existence of said threat, or which a reasonable person would or should know that said threat existsOne can infer that Andrew knows the sex act is transactional, and one can infer that Ashley believes her continued survival is contingent upon her serving some purpose for Andrew, but the additional wrinkle is the knowledge that she wields power over Andrew in the form of ???, which the prosecution would know of given the full breadth of evidence presented to them by Ms. Mystery Blue Kitty Kitty.
>>566009140>A credible threat, whether explicit or implicit, exists contingent upon the alleged victim's agreement to the act of sexAshley believes there is a credible threat, Andrew knows she believes that, and he exploits this fact.
>>566009213>Ashley believes there is a credible threatNot sufficient to classify as coercion based upon the legal definition.>Andrew knows she believes that, and he exploits this fact.Conjecture.
>>566009516>Not sufficient to classify as coercion based upon the legal definitionThe legal definition doesn't care whether the threat itself passes the reasonable man test, otherwise 99% of fraud would no longer be considered fraud on account of victim blaming.The law cares whether the victim believes the threat was credible, and whether the person charged was aware of this and exploited it.>ConjectureHow else am I meant to interpret Andrew telling Ashley to stop feeling forced to have sex with him? Even in the Cliffhanger route he is able to read Ashley like a book since she expected him to extort her for sex.
>>565996853Do you actually have any argument against consensual peers (siblings or cousins of similar age) other than it instinctually disgusting you?
>>566009718>The legal definition doesn't care whether the threat itself passes the reasonable man test, otherwise 99% of fraud would no longer be considered fraud on account of victim blamingThe legal definition does in fact care about the reasonable man test, because in order for coercion to invalidate consent in a rape conviction the victim must have a reasonable apprehension based on the actor's threats or conduct (e.g. fear of death or seriously bodily harm or injury or threats the victim reasonably believes the actor can execute.) Purely subjective, irrational fear without any basis created by the other party is not sufficient for a rape conviction. Even in the case where Ashley reasonably feared for her life contingent upon her having sex with Andrew, the prosecution would depend on evidence showing Andrew's awareness and actions. The prosecution would need to demonstrate that Andrew knowingly engaged with the sex act with full knowledge that he was creating an active threat explicitly or implicitly.
>>566010139The only role the reasonable man has here is to provide a definition of exploitation, because Andrew, as Ashley's caregiver, has a duty of care not to extort Ashley's irrational fears (which he knows she has) for sex.>the prosecution would depend on evidence showing Andrew's awareness and actionsThis is the part that is difficult for outsiders to prove, but I am just saying that we as players of the video game know Andrew's perspective and can conclude it was exploitative.
>>566010329>The only role the reasonable man has here is to provide a definition of exploitation,The reasonable man broadly impacts the ability for the prosecution, judge, and jury to adjudicate based on the circumstances from their perspective given the totality of evidence presented and the inferences which can be rationally drawn from said evidence.>Andrew, as Ashley's caregiver, has a duty of care not to extort Ashley's irrational fears (which he knows she has) for sex.Andrew has no legal standing as Ashley's caregiver in the context of the scenario, as her continued existence is not contingent upon his sole contribution but rather mutual effort from both sides sustaining them as an pairing. Given this, the prosecution must prove that Andrew knowingly utilized a stated or perceived threat to coerce some sexual act from the alleged victim, or that a reasonable person from Andrew's perspective did so. This is of course operating on the idea that the footage provided by Mrs. Oddly Beautiful Finngolian Kitty also gives the inner-thoughts of both parties, because lack of said inner thoughts would classify the evidence presented as clearly not meeting anything close to sufficient evidence of rape.
>>566010762Like I said earlier, by your logic most fraud would cease to be classified as fraud if the jury can just rule the victim was stupid. Your logic also suggests that knowledge of irrational actors does not impact one's duty of care.Ultimately, Ashley's lawyer could show her black eyes and broken nose to the jury to the court, and easily convince the jury that the sex was not consensual.
>>566010985For the latter part of your post, I already addressed that: Ashley's case would be a slam-dunk in court based on actual evidence and the interpretation of the facts presented were she to inform the police that she was raped. The counterpoint to that is that we, as the audience, have a greater breadth of evidence than would be readily available to a prosecutor of said case. I also addressed your first claim earlier: contract law has been used as a template for laws regarding consent, but it's not a 1:1 translation because to do so would be utterly insane if taken to the logical conclusion. Law is a matter of definitions, not feelings. In contract law as well as the case of consent, fraud in the factum renders the contract as well as consent void in the entirety. In contract law, fraud in the inducement is considered voidable; it does not automatically void a contract. In terms of consent, however, fraud in the inducement gets way, way stickier (no pun intended.)
Cultley an cute
Is occasional unprotected sex with your sister good for your mental health?
>>566012417>Is occasional unprotected sex with your sister good for youNo. At a minimum it needs to be frequent in order for it to provide some benefit.
>>566012185Julia would never date a crossdresser
>>566006124Consider that Nemlei likes rape. Don't ask me how I know this.
>>566006124You're explaining it based on your own views on what counts as rape though, so it's not Nemlei's womanhood in question, it's yours.
>>566013036Look at Ashley's face...
>>566012276Interesting proposition. However, see: Cultdrew.
>>566013158Cultdrew an ridiculous
>>566011647Genuinely what was her endgame
>>565999617>"The mom has a certain appeal to her."
>>566013082Yeah I've seen it enough times since you've been posting it every chance you get, and I've said before that it's sad and bad and whatnot but I simply do not count it as rape when one participates with clear verbal consent and does not complain about that specific instance of coitus later on. I also said before that Andrew would not think of killing her for refusing him sex ONE time (1) (ONE (1) TIME) (that specific instance) (not forever) so she wasn't under the pressure you're claiming she was, in fact she was putting a sense of duty on herself that she has to give him sex to keep him around (not that she doesn't kill her mind you, because she's already convinced he won't since he didn't earlier in SnS). I've adressed all these in the last thread but last time the person I was addressing it to got all ethnic about it and refused to answer, and frankly I'm pretty sure you're the same guy but I will presume good and consider you a different anon anyway, even though no two people could be this retarded realistically.
>>566013697>this retardedIs it really retarded to call it rape instead of a "sense of duty" when pic related is the assumed alternative?
>>566013697>does not complain about that specific instance of coitus later onShe complains about all of them
why did nemlei insert black backgrounds behind the newest cgs
>>566014320I assume so it would be harder to modify/composite. In other words Nemlei is a whore
Do you think Ashley is bothered by Andrew's erect cock poking at her whenever they sleep together?
>>566013876It's not the alternative, and I've said it 3 times now and from now on I will think you're just not taking me seriously.>>566014223Yeah all of them, but again we are talking about whether or not that petty sex just before they left specifically was rape. Besides SnShleyley might feel like it's rape in general but it's more like she feels a defilement that she still thinks is her obligation, it's sad but she consents. I meant "complain about it afterwards" more like a broad criterion for any possible rape when the woman was scared but couldn't say it at that time and later when the danger was gone she states it, that would be understandable. Ashley on the other hand says it when the danger of the murderous Andrew isn't gone, and directly to his face to boot.Funny none of the other stuff I say is ever replied to but I'll state anyway, Andrew literally asks her if she's sore or not. If Ashley said "yeah I'm sore and it would hurt my bruises, besides I'm not in the mood since you just beat me half to death", would he really genuinely seriously honest to God for real legit straight kill her just for refusing him one painful or dull sex for that one time? When he still freshly feels extremely guilty about the beating in the first place? If you think he would, you are indeed retarded and this deserves no further addressing.
>>566014805She would tease him by saying she is, but in reality like it.>Gosh, Andrew. Your HUGE erect THROBBING big COCK did NOT let me sleep last night with all that poking and grinding HHHNNNNGGGHH. Just calm down next time, will you?
>>566015356>HHHNNNNGGGHHI never imagined a female saying that. I'm turned on now.
>>566015157>It's not the alternativeAndrew beats her up constantly in SnS....she learns that Andrew is violent, U predictable and needs to be appeased.>would he really genuinely seriously honest to God for real legit straight kill her just for refusing him one painful or dull sex for that one time?No, but our ability as a rational audience to predict Andrew's behavior is not the same thing as Ashley's ability, as she is now deeply scarred (which Andrew is aware of and takes advantage of). You have to look at it from her perspective, she's basically an abused dog.
This is the one thing Nemlei actually needed to bring out the media literacy goggles for but didn't. I hope there is another QnA so she can settle this debate.
>>565991852Yeah, but not in the same way that I have fun playing Coffin. EU4 and HOI4 is more about passing time than a gripping enjoyment that makes me feel invested
>>566015614>Andrew beats her up constantly in SnS....she learns that Andrew is violentThat specific instance of sex, not every sex they ever have in SnS. We're talking about the sex they have just before they leave the house, at that point she is beaten only one time, and also you're talking about it like she hasn't witnessed him literally cleaver a man to death and chop up his own parents' bodies. "She learns Andrew is violent", gimme a break.Also, do you think every sex they have aside form the Drunkshley one is rape? It sounds like that's what you're implying. If so, I don't know what to tell you man.>to predict Andrew's behaviorThat's what I'm telling you as the rational audience to do. "Would he kill her there?" You admit that he most probably wouldn't, then base your argument around whether Ashley thinks he would kill her. Aside from the fact that SnShley outright agrees to jumping down a building with him so she isn't exactly afraid of death, is that your definition of rape? What the verbally consenting participant considers to be rape and not what YOU consider rape? Again, are you a woman?>which Andrew is aware of and takes advantage ofThat's ridiculous. Andrew was clearly upset that their first time wasn't the special lovey dovey soulmate sex he wished it was and wanted to fix it, though he probably failed just as his drunk self did. You're saying it like he got horny again and "raaa wife I want sex come here hnngghh">she's basically an abused dogYou sound like a simp who says "get away from her!" when a guy yells at her girlfriend in the supermarket. I think you're basing your entire opinion on Ashley being an oppressed little girl who needs protection from her le abusive boyfriend, who still asked her if she wanted to and is the only person Ashley would ever want around her, by the way. It's all so laughable.
>>566015983There's nothing to debate, it must be one anon baiting or looking for a fight (not much difference between the two) again because this discussion was brought up in this thread after it was already talked about in the last one.
>>566017646>You sound like a simp who says "get away from her!" when a guy yells at her girlfriend in the supermarket.Fucking kek
>>566017646>You sound like a simp who says "get away from her!" when a guy yells at her girlfriend in the supermarket.We'll get this scene, screencap this>at the supermarket>"Ashley, we barely have enough money to buy you tampons. I can't buy you every single new flavour of ToxiSoda!">"But what if the nailpolish flavour is better than the last one!">"You don't even like this fucking brand!!">cultist #8374 appears>"HEY! Do NOT yell at her!">"Get away NOW, what did she ever do to you??">"i would never treat you that way y'know..."Make it happen Nemlei.
>day 2 of cope about how it's not actually rapeKEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEK if you need more than 5 words to justify your sex, it's obviously rapeNobody calls the tower kiss sexual assault because it clearly isn't. But SnS is clearly rape and you know that because nobody writes this many words when it isn't rape>erm nonononono he didn't rape her he just had sex with her without her consent while she was under the implicit threat of violence!!!
>>566017646>>she's basically an abused dog>You sound like a simp
>>566017646>That specific instance of sex, not every sex they ever have in SnS. Andrew broke the bathroom door handle off because Ashley locked herself in there to escape him, you shit for brains retard. She also makes him sleep outside regularly. He is clearly still violent towards her>beaten only one time>"Would he kill her there?" You are so cooked. "erm he only beat her black and blue once the day before. erm, he probably wouldn't kill her, so it's not rape". I honestly don't think even you believe that. You're just graspingNTA you've been arguing with btw. But you're clearly a cazzie who doesn't know ball.
>le laughing faceYeah I should've made out this is bait already. I apologize for feeding it.
I just wanted to say that I kiss my sister on the mouth if that changes anything
>unable to argue his case>also unable to not replyKek it must be hard having autism. Doesn't change the fact that you're dead wrong about Andrew and know nothing about this game. He's canonically a rapist>baitDid you think I was kidding when I said that me and my discord army put a lot of effort into trolling you and and you specifically?
>>566020370Nigga dropped a fun fact
>>566020389>Did you think I was kidding when I said that me and my discord army put a lot of effort into trolling you and and you specificallyKek
>>566020370>>566020534"My own two cents ass" nigga
>>566020537I'm past the point of trying to convince this guy that everyone who disagrees with him isn't part of a subreddit or discord. I just woke up and read all the posts made while I was asleep, then felt like adding to the discussion. But if he wants to tell himself that it's all some coordinated effort, then whatever. It doesn't change the fact that I'm right. Andrew literally rips the bathroom door handle off because Ashley tries to hide in there to escape him. He's openly still violent towards her. Plus "he wouldn't kill her" is an absurd standard for determining rape. If he hadn't said that, and I hit him with a hypothetical in which a man threatened to beat the shit out of a woman if she didn't sleep with him, then in court the man said "Your honor, I wasn't going to kill her, I had no weapons or anything". That anon would call me out for a ludicrous strawman. That's kinda why I think not even he believes that, it's just a desperate defense. Oh yeah something something play the game something something secondary. I still think those are retarded cards to play and only used as cope
>>566020370Lol this nigga kiss his sister on the mouth lmao point and laugh
>>566021014>t.
>>566021014Elect him president you mean
>>566021295Presidentdrew is so used to Ashley he apologizes to the people publicly for being found out to having relations with an NBR floozie
>>566021452Not him but you should apologize for that. Lose your presidency even. I didn't vote for no outcestuous degenerate!
If you don't have a sister you're not allowed to say the hard R, you can only say Sista.
>>565775997Hello frens, absolute newfag here. Sorry, essay incoming:I went to check on the /vg/ AI threads today, only to randomly discover that there exists a coffin general and it's at number 555 already lol.I bought and finished the game a few days ago after getting curious about it from the porn I saw on other boards. I read the steam page, but otherwise went in completely blind. It took me around 12h to reach what I belive is called the Decay Cliffhanger. I'm not sure on all the terminology though, because I deliberately avoid guides etc. so as not to spoiler myself. I did go back though and also played towards Burial for a save.I loved this game a lot. Easily my best gaming experience of the last few years. And even one of the best experiences I had in my shitty life over the last years period. I don't wanna write a whole ass essay about it, but the characters and their story really sucked me in. It's hard to describe, but found the game created such a strong atmosphere with it's writing, graphics, music, puzzles etc. It genuinely put me in a special headspace. I also found the story very touching. Everything about Andrew's sad life and about his relationships with Ashley and Julia (including just normal stuff like hugging and cuddling). I wish I had a sister, or a girlfriend, or anyone really. But I'm just a khhv incel. I'm really rooting for the siblings to fuck and become a couple lol.Anyway, thank you for coming to my TED talk. I don't know if I'll be hanging around here, since I want to avoid spoilers. I want to keep "my" story in my head as it is and don't lessen it or future playthroughs through meta knowledge.I hope I'll still be alive for the next updates.
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>>566024991I'm glad you enjoyed, anon. When the threads are going smoothly we're more than likely having game discussions ITT. A lot of the time it's either shitposting, baiting, or art posting. It's pretty comfy here.
>>566024991Coffin is one of my all time favorite games, I really think people will debate it for decades to come.
We need slow /calg/ back
>>566013158I actually keep forgetting about this. Wonder what Andrew's greater role will be in route(s?) that involves Six Eyes.
>>566024493Oh my GYAATTTT
>>566024991>I did go back though and also played towards Burial for a save.The Burial chapter (Episode 3B) and the followup to the Decay Cliffhanger (Episode 4) are being worked on simultaneously, and it seems like Burial will come out first.Did you get all the endings in Decay btw?
>>566024991Glad you enjoyed it newkun. But un4chanateleyley your 5000 year lurking initiation starts... NOW.
>>566001254Yes, >mainly a case of "left my selfie on my twitter before purging it" >a very unfortunate case of horse face at thatI can share if you gaf when I get back home but yeah, it's not a pretty sight lmao
>>566026851>The Burial chapter (Episode 3B) and the followup to the Decay Cliffhanger (Episode 4) are being worked on simultaneously, and it seems like Burial will come out first.I've heard that. I hope Burial will be a full ending then. Because having two story threads dangle in the air for who knows how long would suck>Did you get all the endings in Decay btw?No, I only got the cliffhanger. I vaguely know there are others, but I don't think I'm interested in gaming them all out at this point. I was treating it more like an RPG where I stand with the decisions I made to create a "canon" story in my head. I don't want to disenchant the story yet by seeing it as a flowchart, if that makes sense.I did a little bit of research though and went back on an older save to prepare two starting scenarios for Burial.
>>566024991Based. Make sure to play the rest of the routes. IIRC there's a non-spoiler guide in the OP to let you know how to get on the routes. It won't tell you what happens, just how to get the various endingsAlso, who is best girl?
Andrew will get a BBL in Burial
>>566028993I should make a list of the fetishes this general has given me. Off the top of my head, it's fatties and cowprint
>>566020985The way he got under your skin was prettty lame, do better. But anyways I find it hard to call any of this rape when Ashley doesn't even need to be there. Under all circumstances, Ashley is free to leave Andrew whenever, since she isn't dependent on him since she doesn't need an income, housing, or really anything. Since she can freely get all she wants from entity. She chooses to put herself in danger, I really can't pity someone that reckless for when that happens.
>>566030221>do betterBe so fr wit me rn unc
>>566030221Grok what is a codependency
>>566030721>I have to be with someone I don't like having sex with because, I just have to okay!Great legal argument.
>>565809021super ashley 3 or ultra ashley 1?
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>>566031974I still haven't forgiven the Anon who was offered his sister's breast milk and refused.
>think my sister is at work>go downstairs shirtless>she's in the kitchen about to head out the door>apologize for not having my shirt on>she says "that's okay, you never have a shirt on anyway"My reputation as an older brother...
