Time to play some great demos edition!>Demo Days PLAY: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-68Previous: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-67>AGDG Resources https://hackmd.io/SNd2YQugRG-36CLYc8Og2w>Progress Posting Guide https://pastebin.com/0xEt5atn (embed)>Helpful Links New Threads: >>>/vg/agdgArchive: https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/subject/agdg//agdg/ Steam Games: https://made-by-agdg.vercel.app/>How to WebM https://obsproject.comhttps://github.com/argorar/WebMConverter>Previous Thread >>565708619
Did (YOU) play any demos today, Anon?Post 'em>Demos Played>Favorite Demos
what went wrong
>>565799018I've played few so far, does anybody need feedback?
>top 13 DD games are trooncodedGrim!
I need a hug
>>565799267
i'd put games into those categories:a) bad idea, low effort -> doesn't sell wellb) bad idea, huge effort -> sells kinda well, but it took a lot of effort to make it all look pretty and appealingc) average idea, huge effort -> sells really well, but doesn't blow up, also took a huge effort and high-end graphics to be appealingd) good idea, low effort -> typical niche game, sells ok, but doesn't blow upe) good idea, high effort -> sells really well, basically games like ark survival, conan exiles, dark souls etc.f) the lucky top tier idea, normal effort -> blows up, major hit, nobody saw it comingg) the lucky top tier idea, high effort -> does not exist yet
>>565799246Where are all the AI games? I can't see any, maybe just 1 or 2 possibly AI thumbnails (or just stolen google images art, basically the same thing)I thought /agdg/ was filled with AI devs. Why are there no AI games?
>>565799082no 'ironic' porn virus that pops up dozens of windows you need to close to get back to the game
>>565799395Which one is my game?
>>565799493they are all AI games. AI is just that good(or bad) now
>>565799082Marnix doesn't get idle games and just hopped on a trend
Would this work well as the first video on my Steam page?
>>565799819Wow, incredible
>>565799493My AI game got 1 (Uno) view
>>565799493Like with AI companies AI devs mostly rely on hype so obviously they will just spam their ragebait instead of devving. You know that WEBM where it shows the snowmobile game being vibe everything in real time? The webm that is usually at the top of each thread? They have a YouTube channel with like 400 subscribers and they were advertising their shitty Unity AI agent since early 2024 or something, memory is hazy and I can’t remember their name, it was basically them failing to advertise in this general.
the fucked up thing about life is that through the complexity of a system you can never know what something leads to. sticking to a project that will make you 100k could have also prevented a project you start 5 years later that will make you a multi-millionaire. so basically something good happening could prevent something even better happening.e.g. a friend of my family landed a job 30 years ago, basically completely out of luck after moving to a new town. but now it's 30 years and she still has that same job. and she seems kinda bitter, because the boss also wants to desperately kick her out. basically the security that job gave her locked her into that job for the rest of her life.i think once you find something that works, you become close-minded, you become blind to other opportunity, because you value security over opportunity. which is fine, because security has value. but it also means that not having security can be a good thing, because you are "lucky enough" to have circumstances that keep you open-minded.sometimes it even becomes a real problem to companies, when they are so rigid in their old ways, that a new company can just use new tech and completely replace the big company, because the big company would rather play it save than adapting to new metas.
>>565799082there's no appealwhat next, sorting tickets in Jira simulator?replying to vacation requests in outlook management?
>>565800302our s'ponse?
i just submitted my project with 24 mins left to spare
These chuds don't even know the name of my gameBut they all want me to kill myself‘Cause once I blow, they know that I'll be the sisAll because I'm the lead dev of my game
>>565799082>40k in 10 daysDefine "wrong".
>>565800447nice inspect element but steam doesn't show those stats even if you are a dev retard
>>565800429https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-68
>>565799978yes it would go nicely next to the Mostly Negative (2)
>>565800579which one of those is yours? ;)
>>565800520bless your heart, you cute lil pumpkin
>which one of those is yours? ;)
>>565800109looking at my friendslop i pivoted from years ago. god if i'd stuck it out... I would have been first, right as covid hits.
to me the most important question is: what game to make?my status quo of games NOT to make (for various reasons):a) your dream gameb) wanting to improve an existing gamec) "scope correctly" mini gamesd) "just do it" blind yesdevingmy most educated guess what to make:a game idea that fits you as a developer. basically something nobody could have made because they aren't specifically you. something playing into your strengths.at least that's how the music industry seems to work. once artists fully embrace themselves, nobody can copy them anymore.so i guess this can't happen before you truly know yourself in the first place.
how come this company is still a thing? how come they have $50 billion to throw around? what do they even do?
>>565801030>at least that's how the music industry seems to work. once artists fully embrace themselves, nobody can copy them anymore.can any non-famous artist reliably make a hit?
>>565800579Ludstatus?
What is luddite is some one using Artifical Intelligent?
>>565801030
Not sure if I should take Sundays off from dev in the future or not. Really depends on how tired I am or to focus on the easier aspects. Seems like its going to become my biggest day for work for the week. I think that's the only thing I'm gonna have to figure out.
>>565801163
>>565715184Why are you pretending to be me?
give me a simple stupid little prototype ideas and i will try and make my favourite by the end of the day, keep it gameplay focused and not art focused
>>565801363game where you play as a cool robot and kill lus
>>565800683I've submitted to half a dozen demodays before. Because itch organizes game jam position by how popular the game is outside of the jam, it would unfairly put me in full view even though I don't need additional playtesters.If you give me the name of your game I'll play it! Regardless of what you used to make it.
>>565801413>deflection
>>565801363game where you play as a lus and kill cool robots
Stream in 10 minutesWill play (in no particular order)1: Ygg Engine - https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-68/rate/15199172: Inearth - https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-68/rate/43453203: Plinkomancy - https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-68/rate/45353674: UNKNOWN CONQUEST DEMO - https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-68/rate/44614685: Ballmancy - https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-68/rate/44845876: The Rewind Hero Returns - https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-68/rate/43554737: Heralds Of Heroism: An Incremental RPG - https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-68/rate/42414978: Wagie Run (pre-alpha) - https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-68/rate/38641419: CnC - https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-68/rate/453239510: SPACEGORE - https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-68/rate/402031111: Spy School - https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-68/rate/245541412: Scirocco Thugs - introTHUGtion 2.0 - https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-68/rate/3513261https://www.twitch.tv/brimstonewalker
>>565801603replace l with n and take that space off
>>565801032only still exists because financebro gamers had their gamers rise up moment supporting it.like every other thing that comes to prominence because of gamers it will end up costing society immensely.
>>565801672game where you play as anus and kill cool robots
>>565801485It is what it is, anon.
over the last few years my brain developed this annoying tendency to believe it knows everything or that it knows where to look up anything. this kinda seems fine, i don't need to learn over and over e.g. how A* pathfinding or how flood fills work. but what annoys me the most is that it assumes there is nothing of importance to learn anymore. it basically assumes there is no important new knowledge i could attain anymore. that basically everything of value has been discovered by me already. my brain basically assumes it has hit the max cap of all relevant knowledge.one idea i had for why that is, is because over and over i keep seeing educational content just teach the same stuff. i basically never find anything new. therefore i assume that there isn't more to know, because the "community of devs" doesn't explore anything new. so basically i'm still curious for new knowledge, but i'm not curious to look for educational content anymore because i assume they'll just repeat the same old ideas. my brain basically started to assume that there is no more knowledge to attain by listening to other humans. or it thinks that new knowledge is so buried that it's basically hopeless to find the needle in the hay.
>>565801724
>>565801820yeah, i get what you're saying, it’s like your brain's gotten lazy or jaded from seeing the same stuff over and over, so it starts to believe there's nothing new worth learning since everything worth knowing has already been discovered or shared by the community. it’s kinda like, why bother looking for new knowledge if the sources keep repeating the same ideas? and that makes you less curious about educational content because you assume it’s just more of the same old stuff, which sucks because deep down you still wanna learn new things but your brain's convinced it’s a lost cause or that the new stuff is hidden so deep it’s pointless to chase. it’s a frustrating cycle, but maybe breaking out of it means trying to find those rare, overlooked gems instead of sticking only to what's familiar.
>>565801163The deckbuilder game?
finished the windows for vibe bunny at 6 mins left
>>565801820here ya go.https://www.patreon.com/posts/lambournian-grid-133322960
>>565801363>>565801402if nobody has any other ideas i'll get starting on this one, maybe i'll give the robot a cool jetpack and lasers that dismember
There's (21) spots left in our quickshots segment for /v/3. As a reminder all we're asking for for these is >15 seconds of gameplay >Game status>Shill link>Logo (if available)https://forms.gle/YdspbFT2YJmJHm4A7 and if you want to still do a full trailer send it here: https://forms.gle/eGYdc8ShFzT5kFRNABoth are due in May 23rd. You don't want to miss this one.
>>565801939*windows build and fuck its some how the resolution is locked at 720 only
Im debating getting a new PC before memorial day or to wait for the extra savings. If I wait until after my new work hours kick in, then I would have to spend 1-2 days backing up and setting the new PC up.
Here is that generator I was talking about. Made it open sourcehttps://codeberg.org/FroggyGreen/tae
>This jam is now over.>69 entriesFINALLY
i think all games need to have educational value to be appealing. all children games encourage some sort of skill, be it running, catching, hiding, talking, team-building, pattern recognition, empathy etc.ofc while you are playing hide and seek it doesn't feel educational, but it is.when a game is nothing but a time-killer, then it starts feeling meaningless.ofc by educational i don't just mean intellectual knowledge. a game can even teach you commitment, e.g. minecraft can teach you that rome wasn't built in a day, but if you keep committed to one project it will grow into something big.that's probably why i despise "scoped" games so much. all they try is to trigger some dopamine. they are like drug dealers. they are to lazy/greedy to sell healthy food, so they try selling cocaine. they will literally sell your child cocaine and then "see, it works, the sales numbers are high, it must be a good thing".
good goyimhttps://unity.com/ai
>>565802979>free trial gives you 1000 credits>200$ paid tier gives you 2000 credits
>>565801363A game where you look at the rain while just chilling
>>565802921Most children games barely teach skills at allthe game that taught me the most was Runescape. It turned me from being one of the worst at typing in the class to now having top >1% typing ability. It taught me many English words, like "Keg".
... It also taught me a lot about scams and how to avoid them, marketing and price variation, that kinda shit. Damn I kinda miss it.
>>565803361i've already started on the robot game
>>565799582would have been a soulful easteregg but marnix is too young to have experienced that era of computing
what a mess
>>565804160what rule did you break?
>>565804380according to the janny I was trolling when I was fully serious
>>565804160Probably was Betz
i haven't built a functional worldview yet that appreciates fun. i appreciate broader sense "fun" like hanging out with friends, learning something new, taking a walk, doing sports.but those dopamine-optimized mini games like balatro, i just don't get why those would be a good thing. i'd rather fap for 3 hours than playing balatro for 3 hours.i mean those games don't even have a fantasy attached to them. like, you can't even larp being a policeman, drug dealer, survivor, town manager, astronaut or anything.i wish i'd get it. i wish i could expand my horizon of what is "good". but a game like balatro, or those round-based deck builder roguelikes, they don't make sense to me. it feels like they just try to trigger a brain reaction, almost isolated. like trying to put a pizza into a pill, so you don't have to eat the whole pizza anymore, but just need to take the pill that tells your brain that it has a good time right now. basically faking the good feeling of eating a real pizza.
>>565804340elegant and functional
>a 15$ game with 6k wishlists sells about 500 units on its first weekSo wishlistflation is real
>>565804160>>565804586the kike rat also runs a trooncord dedicated to shitting up agdg and advertising, he's a nodev aswell
>>565805934I'm thinking if you have to work really hard to gain wishlists maybe it's a problem with your game and the wishlists you gain might not convert so well
>>565805934>>565806548non-dev here, after the initial notif i get for a wishlisted game getting released, i tend to forget about it quickly because i tell myself i'll pick it up later and pretty much no other marketing happens afterwards so i just forget completely. i imagine a lot of people are like me, i treat it more like a potential backlog of things to check out when im bored, but obviously games that get marketed more recently keep a hold of my brainspace
>>565806934Same, I usually just use the wishlist as "list of games that look somewhat interesting or good enough to play that I may play at some point in the future if I'm bored, have time, and got nothing else to play". I've had some games on my wishlist for years that have gone on dozens of sales that I have not purchased.
one of the worst feelings i have in gamedev is when i feel like i just play a catch up game with an existing game. basically sitting there all day trying to reach feature parity. at some point you being to question why you are rewriting another persons game and you really wonder why you have no own ideas.
why did fatfuck gabencunt cross the road?
>>565807195that's a problem when you're trying to copy something and don't have anything to make the game stand out on its own copying games is a valid approach for an underserved market but you gotta do it goodthere's no point in copying a game if it's not at least as good as the game you're copying
>>565806548Games that get wishlists quickly are games that get visibility and you get visibility because you get clicks and that makes you more visibile and you get more clicks. Games that sell, sell because of visibility as well.>>565806934Of course, wishlists from people who don't buy don't account as much as other wishlists. But if you're on steamdb top wishlists list with 4-6k wishlists I think you're on a good/median spot. If you get wishlists from brazil or india for instance those wishlists are from accounts that don't buy a lot of games so they don't add much to your wishlist based ranking.
Who's gonna tell him that here a game is usually worked on for almost a decade?
>>565807752>300 reviews is a big success. Shut up
>>565807752>tiktok tier title>idiots face in thumbnail>10 minutes of basic ass rambling that could be summarized in 3 sentences if you asked any LLM todayerry fucking timethere needs to be a name for thisdisgusting
>>565807904But most games don't even get that many salesSo y imo it's a win
>>565807626because gogem was having a melty on gaben's side of the road so he had to cross to get away from him
you can't be a gamedev youtuber talking about money without having a major cognitive dissonance. talking about gamedev itself is ok, but talking about money without having a big hit is major cognitive dissonance.if you read schedule 1 devs old reddit posts you clearly can see that he thought that nobody will care about the game. he even thought that nobody will get what "schedule 1" means and had fear that it'll crush his chances of success.it's totally fine teaching me about programming stuff. but talking about money, when you don't have success, it's just cognitive dissonance. especially when you realize that everybody who makes money had no idea it would happen.it's like those pickup artists who still don't have a girlfriend. while somewhere in the world some vanilla 14 year old guy is in a stable relationship right now.
life makes more sense when you realize that you aren't demotivated because of "this reason", but because of "a lot of reasons". somehow the human mind always searches for "the one thing". it's like letting your baby fall to catch a ball.
>>565808585>words words words
>>565802278submittedi did it bros made demo day, v3, and submitted steam store page for review
i don't want to think about node relationships, i just want to make game
Animation done
>>565806450>He's a nodev>He's a nodev guys!!!>NODEV BETZCalm down lil bro I don't see you pissing away money to try and advertise aggy. If you wanted to put some weight behind your words and actually BTFO Betz you'd 1) post your game and 2) use personal money to advertise your fellow aggys like he does
>>565808401>there needs to be a name for thisyoutuber?
>>565808631there's enough gullible retards addicted to youtube in this world which you can string along for money. there was one in this thread that used to spam gurutubers all day long. it also helps if everything you talk about is deliberately vague and unclear.same reason why there is such a big market for self-help books, life coaching etc. prey on the retards
i'm looking into why you lose curiosity as a human and the only clue i have right now is that assumptions kill curiosity.i also tie this to motivation. if you assume that your game will flop, you lose curiosity to find out if it will.
>>565809212Games are extremely complex systems, and complex systems will not survive the zoomer competency crisis.
>>565808631I somewhat agree.Even when you are successful you could still talk out of your ass. Like ye, in 2010 there were 50 indies per year on steam, of course visibility was not a problem.That video is not so bad, yes it says basic stuff. But imo even here most ppl need to hear that basic shit>don't stay a decade on a big project, it's overall not a good move>don't blind yourself at the hardship of marketing, do nothing, and then hope that "something will happen"Most agdg failures are related to this problems
>>565808631>read schedule 1 devs old reddit posts you clearly can see that he thought that nobody will care about the game. he even thought that nobody will get what "schedule 1"to me it reads like he's just making up a bullshit post so he can seem as an organic gamedev "look even this big indie smash hit posted on reddit just like us!"
>>565804160>>565804496
>>565809795simple games are simplesuperimposing graph theory makes games many times more complex than they need to be
>>565809909he posted on reddit before publishing his game. you can look up his account for yourself.https://www.reddit.com/user/Tyler_TVGS/
>>565809221hello betz!
>>565810104stalker
>>565809036WAGMI. Hopefully I'll be joining you in the ranks of v3 soon.
how does one person successfully make a character creator with modular clothing, blend shapes for body-weight etc.? oh sorry i forgot that gamedev education is only about market analysis and asking devs how they made 100k with their game. never mind, sorry for asking.
>>565809954Even the simplest games are far more complicated than anything your broken education system has failed to prepare you to deal with.Also, PC gamers don't want simple. They want spreadsheet simulators with countless parameters. I hope you're making a mobile game for even more retarded boomers and genAs.
>>565810260ask AI you low IQ fucking idiot, how many times does the answer have to be shown to you, fucking retarded brownoid
>>565810104yeah this all looks performative he only posted gamedev shit no other subreddits vistedhe is without a doubt a nepo baby the complete video trailer is one of his oldest posts
>>565810391there is no need to be butthurt
>>565807751>Games that get wishlists quickly are games that get visibilityyes but why do they get visibility that allows them to gain wishlists quickly? you could say it's marketing but marketing is not enough, your game needs appeal
>>565810260How does one person get to the moon? They don't. Any game with a custom character creator is built by a studio with a team of a dozen employees who can dedicate thousands of hours each just to that system alone.Learn to scope better.
>>565810580get fucking real
I need to make it bros...
>>565808631They don't have cognitive dissonance because they're selling their youtube brand/courses, not games. Like if Thomas Brush was serious about living off his games, he would realize that another 6+ months on Twisted Tower isn't going to translate into the number of sales he needs to make that time investment worth it.
How do I contact Betz? I have this project he's going to want to see. It's called toonsouls....
>>565810860aaah to be 35 again... you anons don't understand how young that is
>>565810952im seriously thinking about making a toon souls/cuphead ripi know i can EASILY do better and my posts on social media get like 3 views and that shit did iron man numbers
>>565809873>>don't blind yourself at the hardship of marketing, do nothing, and then hope that "something will happenmy two games that made it weren't marketed at all. they just took off on their own
>>565811307Do it pussy and document it here
>>565808631Facts are facts regardless of who presents those facts. Appeal from authority is a logical fallacy.
>>565811131I'm only 38, 38 is young
>>565811131I'm gonna leave this place once I hit 40.
>>565809217have you ever considered making these scenes in 3D?
>>565811540i will once i finish up v!be bunny
>>565810529Appeal is part of marketing, in a studio scenario some marketing guy wuold need to evalluate if the game has appeal wether because of aesthetics or juice
>>565809529no
>>565811131i turned 35 today, this is the beginning of the end
>>565811975That guy is called the director.
>>565807752Why would you go telling him about agdg? Why would he care? He's a unity asset grifter. Why does his opinion matter to you? Your whole premise is faulty as there's only a couple dedicated spergs here who kept working on their game for a decade. Most people here are nodevs. You likely included.
>>565811651statistically you'll spend more time being over 38 than under 38
>>565807752another dev who lucked out selling games early on steam. His recent games have all flopped.
>>565812273I used my youth wisely
>>>/b/948762399pls rate my model.
>>565811131i have (i guess) at least a thousand grey hairs in my beard, but i feel mentally 16 and have less life experience and money than i had at that age
Yall gonna miss me when I'm off to tinsel town
>>565803842Add rain
>>565812598kill yourself cris
>>565812598betz...
>>565808631Even when you have a success under your belt pretending like you know how to make money with gamedev is a bit sketchy. You know how it went down with our friend Gavin of Flop Bust fame. Really people should just focus on honing their craft. Make a good game. If you can't make one yet then it's time to git gud. If that fails then (solo) gamedev isn't for you. Go find something else you're good at or maybe look into teams if you're good at a single part but not good in the wide range of skills necessary to solodev. >>565811363Good for you but it's not something to take as advice. Even trying to market can tell you a lot about your game. You get to see how people react and if they care at all. If you can't get people to care then the game probably isn't going to do very well.
zukowksi has no idea what sells. otherwise he'd make a game and become ultra-rich."just because i don't use my money-printing machine, doesn't mean i don't have one". yeah sure faggot. no living creature in this world would avoid using knowledge to better its life. if i'd tell you there are 100k burried in a town 200 miles away from yours. and you have absolute proof they are still there, you'd drive there and dig it out. even if you'd need to drive with a bike to get there. why? because having knowledge that is undeniably correct will never leave someone inactive. the only way you would avoid going there is if risk is introduced (questionable sources, knowing too many other people know about it etc.)
you guys need to stop caring about what sells and make the game you want to make
>>565812889>Even when you have a success under your beltyeah exactly, but successful devs never claim they know how to have success. they specifically say they didn't expect it.and why is that? because they make money with their game and not with a youtube course that they need to shill.
>>565812916you're wrong. He knows what sells. His courses.
>>565809927I foresee a 3 day break from 4chin in my near futureoh andkill yourself
>>565813146based fuck nodev kike betz
considering that redditors have decided that adulthood begins at 25, and assuming a person will live to 80, 35 is only 18% into your adulthood
You are using AI to help you make your game right?
>>565811972I sent you an email dude give it a read when you get a minute
>>565812916Zukowski doesn't tell you what will 100% sell. He tells you what has a 10% chance to sell, what has a 1% chance to sell, and that you should be making games with a 10% chance instead of a 1% chance to sell. Indie gamedevs are fundamentally entrepreneurs and small business owners. Nothing is 100% in life. Maybe you should go find a job.>>565813123Why haven't you bought my course yet?
>>565813281no
Now that the generator is up time to work on a small game, demo, thingie. Give me some tabletop inspirations beyond D&D/pathfinder. I want to ste- get inspired by some systems
>>565813412I mean you gotta have a game first...
Time to proggy.
>>565807752>don't make a game that makes $0.00thanks
>>565813412uh oh ngmi
>>565813503But first here's a froggy>>565812858>>565813203All you guys do is spam Betz. I remember when this general meant something. When you guys would spam trainwiz
>>565813575Tell that shit to marmo broken neck
>>565810260There's really fuckall good info out there when it comes to complex systems like that.If you're going the low poly texture swap armor route then Monsters & Memories dev streams can give you a peek into how they did it. They have a standard UV laid out with all the different parts of clothing they have and then they layer those clothes textures to make a final texture in game based on what the character has equipped. Every race is unwrapped to the same basics so the textures work on everything. I think you could take that a little further and swap out meshes for different shapes of clothing which is what I think FFXI did though I'm not sure about their texturing approach. I've only poked around a bit in a model viewer and extracted some models to look at in blender but it's been a long time.
>>565813415gloomhaven/frosthaven
>>565813856frogs dont have slime hair retard
Now that the dust has settled, what went right?
>>565813347awesome i just replied
im so jealous of the schedule I dev....
>>565813856ok thanks tranny for your opinion on kike betz
SDL_GPU, Vulkan, or Ogre3D
>>565810860I may be a loser now but at least I had a gf as early as 14I can see myself having kyssed already if I didn't have a good time growing up
>>565814230>born in a golden crib>internal connections at Valve so strong he got his copy pasted game from roblox featured in the front pageyep me too
>>565814261sdl3 with their new gpu support :)
Today is the 20 year anniversary of the release of a novel by a fantasy author and he wrote a blog post about it. I'm not going to link it here because who cares about him but it was major life fuel and white pill to read it.His first novel was rejected a bunch of times before being accepted by a publisher 2 years later and it was only 6 years after that (2 years after the release of his 4th novel) that he felt he could become a full time author. Now 20 years later those books are selling more than ever and he doesn't have a movie adaptation or anything. It's funny how 15 years after ebooks became popular paper books sales are increasing and in brick & mortar book stores too. I wouldn't touch a paper book if a digital version is available but there are all kinds of people.I guess my takeaway is no one knows what the future holds and there are many ways to make it as long as you have passion and vision and the opportunity to make something
>>565812916Zukowski identified a missing niche of two applied skills - marketing and product development. If you try to practice your skills in already established ways you will always be devalued because the market will always optimize itself. Perhaps instead of looking at it as a blueprint for a successful product you should look at it as a framework for continuous innovation inside a system that is inherently chaotic and he's showing you the positive signals and potential pitfalls.
>>565814230>be short hike dev>make millions>fuck off and never make another gameBASED.
>>565813057>but successful devs never claim they know how to have success. they specifically say they didn't expect it.I believe it's still a skill you can develop as you gain more experience but you'd be foolish to think you have it all figured out and there's no possibility you're gonna fail.
>>565814387is that true? i need some fuel to make me feel better about myself.to me, he seems like a gigachad hobbydev that made a game for fun and got rewarded for it. chad keeps winning bros... us market research virgins cant compete..
>Got my steampad
>>565813264most people who are gonna succeed in life are on that path before 18waiting for 25 is almost guaranteed failure
>>565814631lmao retard
>>565812125Sometimes yes but usually and again in studios, marketing starts before production and there's people in charge of that a directory makes sure everything works correctly during poduction and that includes marketing
>>565814854what the hell is "succeed in life"?
I no longer share the majority interest in games, i have been divorced from the markets. what i like, the majority does not. what the majority eats up, i spit out.but i remember my taste from when i was a child, the ideal steamie. i wonder if i can keep making games for that child of the past, i will find success
>>565815239as a solo dev you have the luxury of not having to appeal to a majority. if 60% of players who see your game aren't interested, 25% absolutely hate it and 10% like it and 5% love it, you'll be set for life. you just need to get those 5-15% and show them your game
>>565814989
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BzE1mX4Px0Iwho says you not gonna make it?
>>565813264>adulthood begins at 25Adulthood is an issue of economics, rentoids and people living paycheck to paycheck can't be considered adults because they are constantly herded by external circumstances. I assume we're not talking about biology here but that's the reality of it
>>565815695normalfags BTFO
>>565814261sokol
Got potion stacks working in a hacky sense. This was bugging me for a while. While actual stacks can be used the inventory just groups all types together.
How do you guys deal with smelly balls after game devving for too long? I can smell them.
>>565816196i made this game
>>565815779>normalfags BTFO
>>565813364
>>565816196Nice
>>565816614Thanks.
>>565816196no fucking way you made this, post proof
adulthood is an arbitrary line in the continuous of existence, just like birth and death
>>565816838gamelet
>>565816819I literally did
>>565816838Idk 18 -24 felt like i wasn't a real human then i hit 25 and it was like i just woke up alive and it was different.
>>565817118proof?
>>565816819Here is a fly through of the level. It is older but I can timestamp in unreal if need be.>>565817001This is not how I do it. I swap the whole mesh piece with another.
If I wanted to commission UI skin design on the level of Slay the Spire, so mostly simple colors, nothing fancy but good quality overall, what would be the best place to look? The only things I could find is like these full blown MMO game PSD mockups with retarded ass super detailed elements without generic elements and stuff. I'm using Slay the Spire here as an example because it's popular so people know what I'm talking about, not necessarily something I'm trying to copy.
>>565817365>>565817001>meshyholy shit this AICHADS actually fucking did it, good job man, legitimately
>>565817160Before 25 all i cared about was sex, making money, and weed like a good goy. Now i dont give a shit about any of that.
>tyler posting schedule 1 on reddit only got 200 upvotes at first>becomes big hit>other games get like 10k upvotes>yet they never get populardo you dev for likes or for money?
>>565817501it proof that marketing is bullshit. it's all random
>>565817365>>565817448Yeah it's impressive but anyone can easily tell he used ai. Still very cool.
>>565817448This guy >>565817001 while may have did that, he isn't "me". Here is my armor swap set, it is janky but also an older video too. But yes, I also used meshy but I clean the parts up in blender.
>>565817501>>reddit They don't play games. Just larp.
>>565817808prompt that fucking flashing away
>>565817808Do you full prompt the code or what? If you spend a few hours a day learning plus ai you could have a decent game man.
>>565817890I dont prompt code, only the models specially the armor weapons and monsters. I have a dumb update inventory function i can just remove it now that I am further in development and it isnt needed anymore.
>>565817692kill yourself
>>565818163what does the animations?
>>565818337Paragon assets.
>>565817001>give away creative control over the most important parts of your gameI don't get it.
>>565818316I mean am i wrong tho? I said its still cool, further than my project anyhow.
>>565818135Code is me and google or I ask ludus what something means. I have a decent targeting system here that actively tracks, adds, removes mobs from locking on.
>>565818135>>565818316
>>565818563And the blueprint code
>>565814475I would do that as well though depending on the amount of money I made I might start a studio and hire people to run it and tell them to make a certain type of game but leave the rest to them as there are games I want to play but making them myself is too much work and making the game kinda ruins the fantasy of playing it for yourself
>>565818746>>565818316
>>565818428>he thinks some generic medieval fantasy gear is the most important partNGMI
>>565814981it is when someone goes beyond being a wageslavewageslaving is an NPC activityif a PC is forced to wageslave their life away it is the equivalent of failing at life
>>565818904Don't interact with nodev
I did another survey on how people found my game and it seems 3 years, a steam release and a bunch of reddit posting later, it still seems only piracy sites and a little bit of itch.io really matter.Outside of that, the only change seems to be a youtube video that featured my game and the "new" patreon recommendation system that make at least some kind of impact (those two make up most of the "Other" responses which are the small cake slices)
>>565818809>>565818316
Has anyone ever used Skeb for getting art for their Steam capsule?
>>565819124what a shitty chart, fuck you, on the for patrons chart why the fuck is the largest not on top, fuck you
>>565816196You really gotta work on those animations if you want your game to look not-sloppy. You can't make a game at that graphical fidelity and have bad animations in it. It clashes way too hard. Instantly makes the game look cheap and amateurish, like an asset flip.
>>565819124>bUt pIraCy iS bAD fOr mUh boTtOM liNE
>>565819173no bully (‸‶)
>>565819438i agree, you need to refine that, maybe have the animations blend by animation to animation? maybe have some kind of connector script so it looks smoother?
>>565799082>shits out low effort slop in less than a year>60k+ rev in one month>what went wrongI hate their games not because of the genre, but because of the absolute lack of soul. No passion for making games, just trendhopping for the next quick buck, and finally it paid off for them
>>565819435Google forms sadly just sorts the right column by the order in which they were entered as an option, not but the number of people who habe that response.
>>565819438It is actually what i am working on currently. I have a janky fight sequence between a new monster i added, my character looks really bad compared to it since its motion is smoother throughout. But it is old vs new
>>565801363>>565801402thought I'd take the opportunity to learn about LegIK, he's moving kind of like a frog right now.with sound - https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1777918320087496.webm
>>565798789>>565799018played Osur's game, I think it was coolplayed evil tactics but it's too bare bones to comment on anythigplayed hirdrih, I just like the dev unirocinally
>>565818787Problem is, when you are in charge you need to become a whipping faggot to make sure deadlines are respected and people dosen't just steal your money for doing nothing.I an era of remote work, this is a nightmare to accomplish. But since you don't need phy people that lives in your city, you can hire random shitters
>>565817406make it yourselfit really isn't that hard
>>565819558100% anon, will fix it.
another one for my aggybros
>>565799819yes. now instead of reposting it for another year, how about you head on over to that AI and have it finish it for you, champ? you're not a nodev are you? surely the AI is superior to you and can finish your game for you right buddy?
>>565819974good luck
>>565799082>agdg game priced at 99 cents gets 1 review>"he made it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!">earnings $20>biteme game gets over 400 reviews>"they have floppeneder!!!"uh oh is someone jealous?
>>565801671niceall the other dd streamers are ass
>>565813364>>565816494>He tells you what has a 10% chance to sell, what has a 1% chance to sell, and that you should be making games with a 10% chance instead of a 1% chance to sell.and his "analytics" are about as accurate as any other nodev talking about what sells on steam. the difference is that the nodev isn't trying to shill me into buying a shitty course, like what you do.
>>565819576Their pizzatime game and anomaly game also did pretty well and they were also flavour of the month projects.They're always just a little bit behind the trend though which is why they never make yuge money.I'm sure they'll make a friendslop game next just as that genre dies off.
>>565820115kill yourself
>>565820086beautiful, saved
>>565820452>shitty courseGood one
>>565820086i look like this
>>565819829I'd go so far that I'm only the owner but the company has a ceo and whatever else is necessary so I don't have to be running it day to day and the whipping is done by someone else so the idea would be to fill a small studio with soulful people to make games like it's late 90s or early 2000s in spirit and give them each like 2% of the net profit so they get a nice bonus if the game does well
>>565820469Each of their games would make less than 10% of what they did if they weren't in a good genre. They just don't have the vision and aren't make good games.
>agdg getting buckbroken by a 26 year old zoom zoom who never even used windows 98's game that is at 400 reviews
>>565820367>since I don't like marnix, he's a grifter>no, 400 reviews in 6months work is actually bad>yes I'm devving my porn game>no you can't see it
which agdg dev would you most like to fight?which non-agdg dev would you most like to fight?
>>565820997GoogumGoogum
>>565820770That is my actual dream, but of course I need to release a game first. It needs to be successful, and then I can maybe hire a couple of people across Europe because my country has not a gamedev infrastructure
>>565819689I don't think that monster looks particularly good either. It's weird that he rotates instantly and the recovery from the swings is odd looking and long. The tells for his attacks aren't very well executed either. >>565820469>They're always just a little bit behind the trend though which is why they never make yuge money.Honestly it's this >>565820912They trendchase pretty successfully but the games are made poorly. If their games were any good they would have hit it big already.
>>565820504
>>565820921the only buckbroken faggots are the ones posting his name and face constantly
>>565821202>>565820115>>565820504
>>565815609wow..thanks.
>>565820086your gorgeous bocchi will make a fine addition to my collection
>>565817808this feels much easier than doing it in 2d>>565819525she's just like me fr fr
>>565820997fight?ask who I want to make love to and then I can answer your question.
>>565820115
>>565821143>but of course I need to release a game first. It needs to be successfulthis is the big hurdle to figure out firstanother idea for spending profits I have had is that I would start a company and buy rights to some old mmorpgs and redevelop them a little to take out the cancerous monetization and then maintain them at a loss with minimal staff and make it a tax write off so I have to pay less on the big sales tail of my successful game
>>565820997eric barone, first to cry uncle loses 0.5% of their networth to the other
grim
if I knew my first girlfriend would be my last girlfriend I would have married herif knew my first game would be my most successful game I would have stayed at my wagie jobthe hard truth about life where it differs from video games is that there is no progression except toward the grave
>>565822761*ignores 500 reviews epic style*
>>565823156you're from an arab country lol
>>565823508from the uk?
Level design is hard, fuck
>>565822761Guns and nuns surpassed every single game in that image btw
How do I make my game hostile to brown people in a very subtle way through the design and not something actually racist? Obviously just assuming the player is intelligent and not handholding them like they are retarded is a given, but I'm trying to think if there's more ways to make the design work for whites and asians but just not for browns
>>565824037easy. just make a bad game and cater to low iq yts kek
>>565824037Put soup in it, like inside of it
>>565824037kys whigger
>>565824037traditionally RPGs have been the white man's game but not the BG3 brownoid infested male feminist type RPGput in RPG mechanics where the player has to think and can fuck up his build that should filter a lot of brownoids
>>565821197That is the ai tracking not the animation that causes the instant player focus, it is bugged, but i will keep working on it! The real implementation will be finishing the ai combat component as its behavior tree is extremely basic and as you state it needs more fluidity and work.
>>565824663haha nigger detected
>>565824037A game about this.
>>565825316Splendid, I was already making that type of game
>>565825695even a brown chad like me has a game unlike a weak jew leashed whiteoid like you. post game
>>565823716I've dropped projects because I couldn't figure out how to make interesting levels
>>565826203>brown>chadlmao
>>565819514>replace steam with the piracy store>now before you purchase a game it offers "do you want this game for free instead?"surely this will solve all our problems :^) people will totally pay for your game!
>>565819772thanks for playing anon
>>565819720got some crowd gore done, what other weapons should i add? I was thinking some explosive missiles and maybe a gravity well that you need to charge with kills.with sound - https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1777922706020206.webm
>>565824037tank controls
>>565819124Do you not do a lot of cross-promos? You'd expect cross-promos to be a source of a lot of patreon users.I'm not surprised about the F95 case but I bet if I did this myself it'd be more like 1/3 - 2/3. In fact, it'd be further complicated by the number of foreign players I may have. When looking at itch.io saying where traffic came from, it's almost entirely itch.io with very little else there, but then I guess there's no incentive to link directly to itch.io from f95.Steam is a weird case. I've heard some developers say they get millions from steam and it outweighs Patreon but for some games I've seen on dgg and the likes it performs well under, if review counts mean anything.
>>565827026itano circus missile barrage
>>565827195I have noticed that my steam audience and my patreon audience are practically disjunct.On the other hand there is a big overlap between the itch.io and patreon audience which the survey also shows.
>>565827026reminds me of this youtube video where someone feeds their bullfrog baby rats and they're all in an enclosure and try to escape but there's no escape and they all get eaten
>>565827026Squish the humans when you walk over them.
>>565827026Very fun.>>565828120Add this pls
>>565827996True, steam makes up more of the non-patrons (but also TFgames and to a lesser extent F95) TFgames is explained either because the game isn't TF enough or because they expect free games. Steam makes sense, steam users aren't the kind that'd like to use Patreon and I'm not sure you're even allowed to link to Patreon on steam.but, how much of the steam audience is even finding this survey then? Did you post it to the steam community forums?
who's in the deckbuilder fest?
>>565828120>>565828436ok will do haha.will add a slam move as well that does a big shockwave
>>565828556my deckbuilder is on hold. maybe there will be a fest next year for it
>>565828560It would probably look best if the leg IK subtly magnets towards squishable targets within range. The corpse should be a decal instead of the particle splatter.
>>565827996>>565828508Also now that I think about it, SKA probably maintains control over the F95 thread meaning there won't be paywall versions on F95, right? As long as it's updated frequently enough, which shouldn't be a problem with how often it's updated.Skycorp's dev once posted about how they switched to using what was effectively DRM and they suddenly got a 2.5x spike in patreon users. Seems like a big factor.
>>565827126This isn't true. Early survival horror games have a disproportionate amount of black fans.
Do RPGs or survival horror games generally make more money?
>>565828928>It would probably look best if the leg IK subtly magnets towards squishable targets within rangegood idea>The corpse should be a decal instead of the particle splatteri could do both, maybe just flatten the mesh and then it disappears
>>565829640for solo indie devs, survival horror is a MUCH great shot at making money
>>565829640I won't speak to survival horror specifically, but horror games can be made incredibly linearly (much easier to make) and can market themselves much easier. You really need a lot of style and flair to make an RPG stand out.
survival horror idea:you are a little chica and a bald colombian unc is after you
anyone have good prompts for a game, I only have free chatgpt but maybe i can make it write one in a simple language like html? or if I bought a premium chatgpt how do i make it detect my notepad to use python
>>565830130
>>565830187shmup incremental
>>565830187Hey chatgpt, make me a game please.
>>565830130Ugly bastard?
>>565811889No. I like drawing.
>>565830187try >>>vg/aids/
>>565830453no offense but im not looking for advice from beginners, i need help from a game developer with a backend in prompts.
>>565831004i'm a professional prompter, 10+ years experience
Survival Horror idea: A Haunting Ground like but you play as a Latinx kyojiri loli with a monke companion and you have to run and hide from bald obese anglo-yiddish ugly bastard rape ogres in a haunted ICE facility. Also there is Twitch integration.
>>565831941Survival Horror Idea: You are in /agdg/
>>565829640>>565829845>>565829910Horror is probably easier but I'd consider that a lot of the most famous (And profitable) indie games are RPGs. Undertale/Deltarune, Omori, LISA, Fear and Hunger, Disco Elysium, etc.The quirky indie RPG inspired by Earthbound became a meme for a reason.
>>5658317417 years here. Talk to transformer made me some cool names for characters and places. Quite original too. Unlike AI now which can only give the most generic possible
>>565824037make it osx only also filters out all poor people as a bonus
>>565832598Disco Elysium was a whole team and wouldn't be possible solodev.As for Undertale/Omori...There's countless horror games with virality. Baldi's Basics, FNAF. Heck, go to ManlyBadassHero on youtube and sort by Popular. Instant free list of games like that. Coffin of Andy and Leyley, Look Outside, etc etc.
>>565832905disco elysium's art style looks like pure ai gen everything ai excels at is a feature in disco
>>565832598The most profitable indie games are Stardew Valley, Terraria, Rimworld, Factorio, etc. Minus Disco Elysium, which is a $39.99 AA game, all of those games you listed COMBINED doesn't even match the profits of a single one of those. You are extremely retarded.
>>565822761I keep saying, /agdg/ needs to do twitter circlejerks and maybe even "encourage" reddit posts like you see other indie devs do (no shade)We could be making the best fucking games on the planet and it won't matter if people don't know about them
>>565833134I was talking in the context of horror vs RPG.Yes, survival crafting games mog both.With that said, I'd wager that Undertale and FNAF have made more money than Factorio or Terraria. Mainly because of merchandising.
>>565833265Isn't that the point of /v/3?
Those incremental tycoon games are super popular on Fortnite, do you think that formula would be appealing as a stand alone single player game or is the multiplayer aspect a strong part of the appeal?
>have ADHD>get bored of projects very quick>to get around this I am actually working on two different games and swap between them whenever I get bored>its actually been working
>>565833265nobody wants to hear this but to make it you need to not only swallow your pride and collaborate and also stop being mean to random ethnicities
>>565833265most of the devs already do this I know because a lot of them here like and sometimes repost my stuff
>>565833081There was a popular AI LORA based on discos art. I don't mind ai but I hate that cool real art gets dismissed nowadays.
>>565833415Terraria is literally the 7th best selling video game ever, sitting in between PUBG and Witcher 3. It's not even close, retard. At that point, we might as well bring up small indie GOTY winner: E33. You clearly enjoy a zoomer who grew up on a very specific brand of markiplier soiface slop and your entire tiny bias worldview revolves around that.
>>565834363If "cool art" depends on scarcity, then maybe it wasn't intrinsically good in the first place. If you find yourself enjoying something much less after you find out that lots of normies enjoy the same things, then you're just a hipster.
>>565834387Never heard of it.
i want my game to have merch
a game where you kiss little girls
>>565834968fangamer
Would you prefer to be in just like make game 2010-2014 era of indie game where you could make a multi-year passion project and make it vs now where it's very difficult but you can also become a millionaire from making one successful idler slop in 2 months?
>>565835078
>>565835216I don't cry about the good old days because I'm a shitter that learned coding in unity, and I fully depend on game engines to do anything
>>565835084>founded by cringe people on starman net and did celeste and omari merchhard pass ill do it myself
>>565835216I'd rather go back to 2007 when indie game development was obscure enough that the only people interested in it were passionate weirdos who didn't care about money at all.Blitz3d my beloved...
>>565835232sakura sex
>>565835550i was around in 07 with XNA and i always cared about mony
a game where you are a little girl but your big bro has to keep saying no homo
>>565835861I used XNA as well but I never took it seriously. The 150mb limit on the XLIG program (where ~30mb was taken up by XNA itself) meant you could only really produce flash tier games.
>>565835550>who didn't care about money at allonly jobhavers and those financially supported by other people
>>565836325>jobhaversThe economy was also way better back then and wagies felt much more secure. Those same wagies today are hustling to escape the dreaded cagie.
>>565836325I don't think there was a significant amount of indie devs making a living off their games back in 2007. Spiderweb Software aside.
>>565827195Only very few, I don't like to give my players "ads".If there is a patreon I like I use the recommendation system they added.
>>565835232
>>565828508I only posted it on patreon, so the steam audience not finding the survey is proof that there is little overlap.I'm currently at about 13k owners on steam and 13k members (including free members on patreon), so it should give strong indication that steam users are also not likely to be free members either.
I'm going to dev now. You may wish me luck.
>>565837215good luck
>>565828934SKA used to get partically instant pirated the moment a new version released, although that has recently slowed down.What is pretty impactful is that I have been able to put up a demo version for my new game with a time limit and it has been only pirated once until now.Most of my new players have discovered me from those updates it seems (starting end of August on the chart) and the "pirated game" being a demo version probably helped me a lot.
I came up with a new game2+ playersset up billiards with only cue balls, on your turn you can shoot from any cue ball at any other. Each ball that is sunk is worth one point. There are no scratch penalties, the ball you use as a cue can count as a point if it has made contact with at least one other ball or times hitting a bumper before being sunk. Ending the game with no balls on the table (final shot clears the board) is worth an additional point and is called a 'Zeich'.
>>565835550I remember indiedev in 2007 and before and it was miserable.So many people using stolen assets instead of making their own and shitting on people not using stolen assets, especially in the RPGMaker community.
>>565837494>RPGMaker
>>565837494That's still going on. I just make sure to retopo and retexture my stolen models now to make it less obvious.
>>565837249Thanks, anon
why does being lonely around others feel so much worse than just being lonely alone at home?
>>565838102you have poor mental health. Should see a therapist, then work on yourself, then start a relationship. In that order.
>>565838543i keep noticing that my mental health problem is that i accept other peoples mental illness in order to socialize with them. a good example is me coming to agdg.
Pain
>>565837308I was a bit jealous seeing it hit apparently about $17,000 and thinking "damn I could probably do that if I could be bothered to do X Y or Z" i.e. handling piracy betterbut actually now you post that graph, I'm pretty much the same except for being a year behind or so.I'd rather not touch any piracy site and just leave them be to do whatever they want but maybe at some point, or maybe for a second game. I don't know. It hurts just to think about it, I just want to make game.>>565837026>>565836875regardless, thanks for posting the statistics as always, it really helps to see what's going on with devs
>>565800447where do you go to get these metrics?
i feel like tolerance is a slippery slope. once you tolerated one thing, the next thing follows, and on and on. unless you gave up on all your values, interests and needs. it rarely every stays at 1 thing. it all starts with "ok i'm willing to compromise", cause it seems fine to not be pedantic about it. but somehow that 1 thing will open up the door to 10 other things. until it completely consumes you.
>>565839002Game?
>>565826203>even a brown chad like me
>>565839456Slopes are only slippery if the change allows further changes to more easily occur. Further reading: https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/Kbm6QnJv9dgWsPHQP/schelling-fences-on-slippery-slopes
>>565839459monc
Oh no no no, it is real now!?
>>565841143
>working on an animation in aseprite>crashes>recovery only gives me half the work backgeez.. thanks I guess.
>>565841143Idea Guys/Creatives golden age is upon us, no longer will drones who are good at tedium be in charge
I think I will make a very small gimmicky game and release it for free on steam and then use that to help promote future games that cost money
>>565841143Nah
>>565841993It's a shame ideaguys still aren't going to be able to muster up the willpower to download a game engine just because they changed the interface from dragging and dropping icons into typing words into a chatbox.
>>565842105I thought about that doing just to build a portfolio and maybe get a job
thanks itch.io. Very cool. 0 views.
>>565842105I was thinking about the same, build a few small free games (like Bit Blaster XL and the likes), and then try to build a small Discord community (spam Discord on trailers, spam Discord buttons in the games, spam Discord on Steam pages etc) then once I build a sizeable community, try to make an actual game and try to shill it to that community to gain initial traction. Who knows, maybe it will work, maybe it won't.
>>565842105>I think>I willYou won't do shit.
>>565827026got the stomping, slamming and cannons done, will eat my dinner and then work on getting the LegIK working properly so it doesn't look shit.with sound - https://i.4cdn.org/wsg/1777932960093019.webm
I have over 300 wishlists now. In 2 months.
>>565841143what model and how to access???
>>565842425trannies have a meme for everything
>>565834237Yeah they retweet eachother but they don't do the hyper-optimized group templating you're seeing lately
>>565841143>_< god I love AI
>>565841143pay up, paypiggy! Oink oink!
>>565843794I need to clank this smug fucking cat
>>565841143i understand it allthis is now meant to be our new subscription like netflix where the we toil away for a fee we pay and for a chance to give gaben 30% of our work googem was right all along
guess gamedev WAS worth it
>>565841143AI bros....https://www.reddit.com/r/singularity/comments/1t3hw53/a_twitter_user_tricked_grok_to_send_200k_usd_to/
>>565844665does elon really post on agdg
>>565842556flopcore techdemoslop
And just like that - streams are done.Big thanks to everyone who submitted their games, who played them, who left feedback, and who was in the chat.Lots of really fun stuff this DD. As usual - stream VODs are up for one week, game segment VODs will be up for like half a year (twitch storage restictions)I'll chop up the segments and post written feedback during the week.And with that - I thank you guys one more time for another great DD, and I will see you all in 2 months!
>>565843794What did you use to make this?
Ai “Artists” are basically people who don’t understand art at all.>I made more pictures, why do you not respect me as much as the guy who put an impressive amount of effort, vision, and skill into his work?Art is impressive because even less refined people can subconsciously appreciate the skill and mastery of a craft that went into it.
>>565845941Cope.
>>565835232>>565836927>>565835961sakura...
>>565846121Pathetic.Give me one good reason you’re actually worth something
demos are pretty boring this demo day
>>565845809yay
Man, how the hell did a version of the game that’s 10 times more advanced get less downloads
>>565845809Beside very few exceptions, it seems you challenged yourself to scrape the bottom of the barrel with your selections
>>565846257Give me one good reason I should care about your validation
>>565845941You can draw a character in your style, then draw a bunch of crude stick figures. Give it all to AI and tell it turn to turn the stick figure drawings into a perfect match of your character.And that's just a small taste of what it can do. If you don't see the value in that, they you are going to be left behind.
>>565846847I’d rather “Stay behind” than run into a future that has no value >>565846719It’s not about my validation. It’s about your dignity. Do you not feel a great sense of shame realizing that you’re a fraud? That you don’t actually have a valuable skill or something you can truly offer?
Imagine if Toriyama threw a tantrum when he found out that Toei plans to hire a team of artists to do the anime and draw all his characters on his behalf, rather than have Toriyama hand draw it himself.That's luddites.
apathydevs won by not caring
>>565847383That’s not the same because it’s still people who have completely legitimate artistic skill.
>>565847383toriyama famously hated super lol so yeah
yapper hours
>>565847383>>ludditesObsessed and gay
>>565848132he went senile by the buu saga so who gives a fuck
>put a super secret easter egg in my game>nobody finds it damn
It's not that I'm lazy or NGMI, it's that I just don't care.
>>565849489This actually doesn't look like complete slop, congrats.
any fan art for dd68?
>>565851931aka normies
>>565851931It's a bit of ouroboros tho because streamers often wait to see which way the wind is blowing before reviewing something.
>>565851931Brim said my game is great btw.so, I'm guessing you guys think its great too
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
Why do people act like UI is hard?
>>565853096It's not hard to program.It's not even that hard to get an acceptable looking UI finished.But it is very hard to make a UI that looks good, fits the game well and is functional. Most UIs can only manage 2/3.There is a reason most developers just make everything black transparent squares with white boarders now.
>>565853379Oh
>>565853096The type of games that sell the best on PC/Steam are mostly menu games, and if menus are going to be the vast majority of your gameplay, then any good developer will want to spend a lot of serious effort to make the menus as nice as possible.
>>565852315If normies are the sheep then streamers are the Herding dog, but we are the shepherds.
all those people showing how much tokens they use. all those people shilling opus etc.but where are all the actual products?i say it over and over again, the problem isn't how to code, the problem is that everything exists already.
>>565854257https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0d6yBHDvKUw
>>565854360what things?
>>565854498We are gonna fix this shithole industry but it won't be overnight.
wish i could be a youtuber. i'd just be my own vibe. not being obsessed with products anymore. people just coming to hang out, not because it all needs to be super educational and the "magic pill to make it". just having a good time with gamedev, cause life is too short to worry.but i think i'd need some wireless nice setup to make that an enjoyable thing. just setting up a decent mic quality is annoying when you need to buy expensive equip and it hangs in front of your face etc. - fucking annoying.
>>565855119You won't do shit, retard.
>>565851241Read this thread, dumbass. Do the people here seem like they'd make fanart?
i hate friendslop so much its unrealhttps://store.steampowered.com/app/3892270/Gamble_With_Your_Friends/
>>565855291literally not me, my thoughts are all about "i shouldn't do that", "this isn't worth it", "i tried that already", "this is bullshit and a waste of time", "this can't be made without a big budget", "this can't be made without a team", "this is slop and i don't care even trying something like that", "this will just burn me out and i'd rather stay healthy and sane".also i already had a youtube channel between 2013-2015 and uploaded over like 200 videos. if i think about it i stopped exactly when the women messaged me on youtube that i'm still in a relationship with. maybe i just made videos to socialize.
>>565851931its kinda funny that he hates bg3 and doesnt talk about it but only because he wants jobs in the industry and its even funnier that hes a gay and its pretty much tailor made for him
>>565851931>gaming fans>opinionslmao this kike rat (like betz) pilpul
why do i easily accept that i have to pee, but it's hard to accept that i have to do webdev to survive? where does the brain draw the line where something forced onto you by life is ok and where you start rebelling?maybe when you can somehow get away with avoiding something?
the reason why theorycrafting doesn't work is cause yesdeving is a result of feeling really good and not a result of having good ideas and concepts.you don't dev to become happy, you dev because you are happy.
>>565856065post your address and ill come and live with you and threaten you with a knife whenever you are not devving
>>565844445for some reason creators though their intellectual property was safe from this predictive programming when it's literally the easiest property to steal from you
>>565856729221B Baker Street, London, NW1 6XE
>>565857047I'll Sherlock your Holme nigger
>>565857047Moriarty hands typed this
>>565847383>if i remove the core economic aspects of an economic argument i can make your side sound ridiculousthanks petite burgeroise for the help.-whale burgeroise
>>565857047thanks you just ruined my day
honestly anyone using the term "luddite" (derogatory) is a government death squad supporting chudditehttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Destruction_of_Stocking_Frames,_etc._Act_1812
>>565858674>a government death squad supporting chudditeuh oh you just described ME!
i hate my project
>>565858832Join the club
>>565858674>he doesn't know that the AI spammer's steam handle is literally "chinese communist death vans"
>>565859049>>he doesn't know that the AI spammer's steam handle is literally "chinese communist death vans"
i love my project
i can't fucking paint backgrounds
>>565798789i wish i uploaded my shitty prototype to demo day now i see other prototypes there because if people told me it was crap I wouldve known instead of spending the next month working on it
>>565858832Is this normal? I hate my shit too, i cant tell if its because it was a simple inevitability or it's that my game just doesn't work. I'm too married to it to see it objectively, though that should end soon.
>>565858832>>565860243fuuuck i'm a normie...
>>565856497Maybe not happiness, but if your game makes it, then that can at least give you some financial comfort.
i wonder if there is a massive psychological effect going on right now where people feel like they run out of time to make money. and therefore burning out by just thinking about work.i mean. imagine you'd start gamedev now. you plan to learn it for the next 5 years. and then you plan to make a lifelong career in gamedev. you'd probably be way more chill.but we don't even know if there's still a gamedev market like it exists right now in 10 years. we don't know what ai will be like in just 3 years. we don't know how trends shift. we don't know if we can even compete anymore when more and more competition exists.i mean old devs actually built game studios and franchises. now we are just trying to get a viral hit going in 6 months and hope we can retire from it. we don't even know the studio names of games anymore. and most hits don't ever get a sequel.
>>565842556got the LegIK working better but still not quite right yet, I'm going to bed now and will probably work on enemies and the city tomorrow
when you find yourself hating your project remember that it's not finished, you gotta visualize what your game is going to look like when it's finished
>>565860652i can but it's going to take fucking ages
>>565860320ur on aggy daggy sir....
>>565860652What happens when your project is like 90% done and you realize it's kinda garbo but fixing the fundamental issues with the game would take longer than it's worth?
>>565860834don't fucking reply to me you tranny freak
>>565860639Niceu
>>565860912this is why refactoring your code frequently and keeping it clean is important, it makes easier to fix and to add new things
>>565859665what references are you using?
>>565861301none...
>>565860652It's worse than that for meeeeeeee
>>565860652hating your project probably helps when it flops
i was a normie for 2 years of my life. they were the greatest years of my life, and now i am back here with you FUCKS!!! AND CRIS IS STILL HERE!!!!! fuck my life, time to make a game i guess. jlmg
>>565860612>i wonder if there is a massive psychological effect going on right now where people feel like they run out of time to make money. yes>and therefore burning out by just thinking about work.no time for thinking.
>>565861747normies are weird
>>565860612ur right, but staying a gamedev is the hard part, which induces this stress and obligation to make a small game, or the guilt from not doing it. they need a hit if they plan on devving their entire lives.ofc hobbydevs are gigachads where this post doesnt concern them
>>565861859the reward for earning a bunch of money is living in an underground bunker with a bunch of weirdos that experiment on animalssorry for spoiling
why aren't you using this? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHRZm2BwNQc
>>565862381I live above ground with people who slather the results of those experiments on their faces
it's kinda insane how my depression ends immediately when i'm just around people for 1-2 days. and then when nobody has time anymore and i'm all by myself i constantly try to be happy alone and do whatever i can to figure out how to be happy alone. and even get told that i need to learn it, because others dont want to be responsible for me. but it just doesn't work. i can't be happy alone. as soon as i'm isolated, i lose all motivation to do anything.maybe i need to find friends who actually want to spend time with me and don't just like me because i'm tolerant.
>>565862534>why aren't you using this?>https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pHRZm2BwNQc
In his Spotify page, his motto is "Never Give Up", but the reality say differentGive up after multiple attempt at getting job and failedGive up making mobile game after his Flappy Bird clone game failedMaking Amber Hageman working two jobs while he was playing world of warcraft instead working on stardewGive up hiring employee and growing his company after getting backstabbed by his own employee, justifiedUsing burner Twitter and YouTube account to talk shit and harass EVERY SINGLE GAMEDEV that making farming sims game, the latest game he is talking shit about is Emberville made by CohhCarnageLurking on 4chan instead of working on Haunted ChocolatierDoesn't even marry Amber Hageman after all she been going throughDoesn't even paying Amber Hageman brother hospital bill after he suffer from brain damage and will likely die soon, Amber Hageman mom need to start a GoFundMe to pay hospital billAnnounce his chocolate game to early because he's afraid and jealous Witchbrook going to cannibalize his fanbaseDoesn't give his employee a career growth ladder, no stock, no 401k, basically giving them a dead end job with crazy NDA and no HR oversightThis guy is a certified fucking LOSER, why are we looking up to him as an inspiration when he just some LOSER who got lucky
>>565862534OH MY FUCKING GODITS FUCKING OVER KEKARROOOOO
>>565862534Because I have copilot pro with a godot MCP that already does this but better.
>>565844665>AI Chad gets free money from his AI pal>Lus think this is badlooool
>>565863004how the fuck do you guys know all this? KEKthe only source on the burner accounts are from that schizo arthur but his receipts and story checks out.
>>565862534they tryna SELL you the SKILL and KNOWLEDGE lmfao what a wonderful world
>>565863426
>>565863826
>>565863581you are not a fox, you are a crab. the foxes are bitter, the crabs think they can move up by talking bad about others. both fox and crab mentality will never work to have success.
>>565863972
>>565862534Unity build me loli rape sim.
>>565862534Because I'm doing this to feel better about myself. If I don't make as much of it myself as possible, then I won't feel better about myself.I could use AI and become a millionaire with a complete project, but I'd still wanna kill myself because money cannot buy self-respect
>>565864125loser
thoughts?
Even the big studios use AI. We have no choice but to accept our new overlords.
Well?
>>565864159I'd REMAIN a loser if I used AI.If I make stuff myself, there's at least a slight chance I'll "Win" through my own abilities, and thus feel like I actually did something right.This is quite literally a fight for my survival.
>>565864516Sex isn't doing something right or worthwhile.
>>565864628>Sex isn't doing something right or worthwhile.
do you guys know when he's asleep? that's usually the time when the thread is actually chill and nice.
>>565864772The fucking irony of this image being used as a mockery considering what happens to this dude
>>565865045post game
>>565864464>slight chance I'll "Win" through my own abilitieswhat if one of MY abilities is being really good at using ai?
>>565865045>do you guys know when he's asleep? that's usually the time when the thread is actually chill and nice.
>>565863004>Doesn't even paying Amber Hageman brother hospital bill after he suffer from brain damage and will likely die soon, Amber Hageman mom need to start a GoFundMe to pay hospital billhum... if this is true can't she(amber) do it? surely she has some degree of control over their finances? or did they brake up?
>>565864125>I could use AI and become a millionaire with a complete projectsure thing buddy
>>565865196There's no satisfaction
>>565865349I said COULD, not WOULD.I just wouldn't feel like I could comfortably say "I did something I'm proud of."
>>565865360what if one of MY abilities is always being able to get off
>>565865507>COULD
>>565864430for me it's trainheist
>>565864295would
>>565865814I'm just pointing out that if I used AI to get a project to completion and shipped it, I wouldn't feel satisfied with myself.
>>565864464did you write the programming language you are using? why don't you want to just tell the computer what the code should do and let it figure it out? seeing your ideas come to fruition is satisfying.
>>565865196>what if one of MY abilities is being really good at using ai?being really good at using AI inherently means being well versed in all tasks that you need to supervise the AI doing and a wealth of good and original ideas (as AI has little or none of those).the irony for all that is you are not simply born being well versed and full of good and original ideas, those are things you educate and train for through experience in the skills you are asking the AI to do. so a wannabe with AI will still get outclassed by an experienced artisan without AI and ultra-outclassed by experienced with AI.giving you an AI to make a game is like giving a toddler an AR-15 to take to war
>>565864295
>>565866230Programming? Maybe.Art?Hell no
>>565866008say bye bye to your d*k then
>>565866230Yes I made my own language, did you?
What is it that makes retards so confident about being able to do something that they've never even tried doing before?
>>565866361uhh fuck you, i could easily make an anime game and get rich if i wanted, only reason i dont is because i dont want too!
>>565866017so all the 1000s of good decisions you make in using AI as a codemonkey, are not good and not satisfying to make because you didn't manually type 1000 for loops?
>>565866361delusion is an evolutionary advantage for the species
>>565866451Language I'm using doesn't have those.
>>565866485you are one to talk
>>565866324zepoit, lemmegoo, shpappy dwanda! ge'etel!>>565866307art is a different matter.
>>565866361>STILL cannot tell the difference between COULD and WOULD
>>565866693retard loser, there I said it
>>565866572really? post some code
>>565866230NTADid you make the idea for the Toaster? Why aren't you making an idea for a new toaster that is your idea coming to fruition?We're able to pick levels and degrees of satisfaction and decide that is what we care about.Just like I don't care to build an OS but I care to code my game.
>>565866856>Toaster??? you okay there?
>>565866856Proof you care?
I imagine a laugh track plays every time gogem says something.
>>565844503gamedeving attracts many girls(bots)
>>565849489>this is the average luddite
Mental how much jannies hate Soul Zone
>>565866856>cares about coding his game>copy pastes answers from stack'
>>565866286what if that toddler is a BABY GENIUS???
>>565867856i look like this, godotbro btw
>>565868009oops, meant to reply to >>565867954
>>565867901No, I use AI. I'm not downing AI.I use AI alot.
>>565867856ZAMN! luddites look like THAT!?!?
>>565868159Stop trolling.
I think i'm shadowbanned on X... it's over...
Commissioned an artist for game art on the platform. Looking back, I should've picked it up when he sent me the first sketch and the main character (a scientist) ended up looking like an angry Morty.I'm currently disputing the order and looking to get it cancelled. (Hopefully)Not sure if I can trust getting art gigs on the site anymore. Perhaps some advice to navigate around generative AI would be appreciated
I've been working on my loli game a lot more in public these past few weeks.Laptop devving is kinda comfy.
>>565868570I got permabanned on reddit, it probably lost me at least 100$ in sales.
>>565867954Loved this movie as a kid
>>565868574Learn art, make friends/pay an artist on the cord, or use AI
>>565868831wanna be my friend?
>>565868607kanna...
>>565868708>on reddit
>>565868937I'm a professional redditor, got a problem?
so the next 1-3 years of game dev is basically just hiding the fact you use ai isn't it?
>>565869074yes until retarded millennialoomers die off with their retarded dinosaur opinions
>>565868937Redditors buy and play video games unlike 4chuds. It is unironically the best place place to advertise.
>>565869196>>565869074Gen Alpha gets it. My sister, who is a teacher, says they use AI for everything, and they keep saying she uses it too (she doesn't because she is a luddite).
>>565869074Nobody gives a fuck about using AI for code at this point.Assets are a bit more contentious but a lot of this stuff is at the point where it can be hard to tell.I started playing around with AI but it was so soulless I couldn't do it.
>>565869074why would you hide it?if it causes any controversy that just free marketing.
>>565869335>soullessDefine soul and then tell me how AI is souless in the context of game development.
>>565868874What do you bring to the table?
>>565869410can't be defined with mere wordsyou realize language is a limiter right?
>>565869395where is your next game you asshole, are you even working on anything?
>>565869397i look like this
>>565869328>and they keep saying she uses it tooThey will call an entire textbook ai generated uncslop. God bless those shitposters.
>>565869410soul :zone:https://soundcloud.com/soul-of-language/the-desert-fast?si=667a5f59c3e64c16bcdb0e46c4f1a907&utm_source=clipboard&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=social_sharing
>>565869715WTF I love lus now
who said I was a luddite?https://soundcloud.com/soul-of-language/kastro-castle?si=6beb39e21177400085460ca5b751126a&utm_source=clipboard&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=social_sharing
>>565869662you have to be 18 to post here young lady
>>565869410Creating something is putting your creativity into it. If you're generating everything using AI and just assembling the final product then you've allowed a computer to decide a lot of what your game is. That rust on your character's armor? That's the result of an algorithm assuming this is where some would be. Not a conscious choice by you to put it there because maybe their armor was scratched after they took a stab in the shoulder years ago.In small doses it's probably fine but if I learn a game was mostly made using AI then there is nothing in the game I'm going to analyze or think about it. I'm just going to assume the entire thing is generated slop with barely any user input. It's like potato chips. Just empty calories made to kill time.
>>565870106>That rust on your character's armor? That's the result of an algorithm assuming this is where some would be.what if I told it to put it there
>>565869929why she missing eye?
>>565870106Can we see what you got so far? Surely you at least got a prototype right?
>>565869074AI, even AI art, is so good most people could never tell its AI.Why announce you use it?Imagine a world where anyone could press a button and have the body of their dreams, right? If you were a chud who pressed the button and became a chad what would you gain by telling people you used to be a chud?
>>565871138based
>>565871138>If you were a chud who pressed the button and became a chad what would you gain by telling people you used to be a chud?this but instead a hot woman instead of a chad
>>565870991If you're using AI that way then I'm actually fine with it. It's people prompting>medieval dark souls armorAnd letting the AI do all the work that I have an issue with>>565871096>post your game so you can be targeted for harassment by the AI shillslmfao
>>565871524Gamelet
>>565871524>If you're using AI that way then I'm actually fine with it. It's people prompting>>medieval dark souls armor>And letting the AI do all the work that I have an issue withFair
>>565871524
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=36j9XtNYFwowhy does this cris music make me laugh? its not even bad its just hilarious for some reason
>>565871524so prompting a trans artist is fine, but prompting an ai isn't?
>>565872057It's pretty bad. It's random rambling notes that disregard any kind of established musical language and vocabulary.
>Game Played:Hanakomi Witches>Feedback (Thoughts):Nothing negative since this is the final version, so just thoughts. I really like the cute pic on the game page, the art there looks nice and warm. Very inviting. Now for the game itself. Played as Rosemary not like that's really important for the review but... I like redheads. I played this game some time ago, I believe casual mode, it was nice. But the bullet hell mode is hard! Cute game, looks like something you'd see on a flash gaming website in the past. The music is nice.>Bugs:Maybe the below?>Suggetions:Z as an attack button quickly results in text passing by before I could react and thus missed dialog. Could use something to prevent that but since you're done with this game, this may not be important to you but would be nice if the game remains up.
>>565872582Pic related, the pic on the game page. I like it a lot, just felt like sharing it on here.
>>565872003Remember when Hercule/Mr. Satan in DBZ would claim anyone flying was using a magic trick?hahahahahaha
>>565872057very silly penis music
>>565872980>dbz referencebeaner nodev detected
>>565873579>>dbz reference>beaner nodev detected
>>565839080inspect element
>it bworks
>>565874129oh no you are using it toolooks like the time of peace has ended
pomodoro niggas
killing slow is the way i conquer
i give up
>>565803727yooo i learned how to type in rs too
>he learned to 1 tick type "sit"
4 Player mode is working. I overcooked the AI though, I need to slow down it's build phase or it's impossible to beat.
>>565813281Yes, but sparingly
>>565813281>Revenue is way up thanks to AI agentsSo you're making a profit right?>No we're losing more money than ever
>>565813281Programming mostly, as well as asking it how Blender works. I prefer to do things myself
Do Indie RPG's do well? Want to make a FF7-like with a better battle system (and have it be 10-15 hours long)
>>565877938SOVLOVL
>>565877938I really like fixed camera angles and prerendered backgrounds.Lost art
>>565877938that style might go crazy.not sure abuot 2d games. kingdoms of the dump didnt do as well as i thought it would do, but it succeeded in its niche
>>565877938Comfy. THIS is what "PS1 style" should aim to do.Also I've begun working out a smoother momentum for my attacks and also started working on an interaction thing for items you can pick up.
>>565877938They do well if they ever get finished. 99.9%+ of retards who try making an RPG never even come close to the finish line.
>>565878792I feel like the issue is that most indie developers don't build systems that allow you to create content quickly for a RPG game. RPG is the quantity over quality genre so something like a non-essential cutscene or basic bitch enemies need to be done in a few hours not a few days. It's why I think RPG Maker RPGs actually get finished compared to other engines - they have systems in place that let you build content very quickly.
>>565879161It's not just that. Even people who use premade systems like RPGMaker will struggle to ship. RPGs are massive projects that historically have been built by dozens of Japanese wagecucks working 80 hour weeks for years. Any half decent RPG has at least a few novels worth of text. How many novels have you written?
>>565879401I don't think writing dialogue would take up the bulk of the work for a RPG. I feel like making maps and enemy encounters would be more time consuming.But I get your point. Content is certainly a problem.
>>565878792>>565879161>>565879401>>565879672I think with AI, you can cut down the development process for an RPG by half, easily.
>>565879910I dunno if you've used AI for writing but it produces some really bland ass dialogue. I guess you could use AI for the first pass and try to punch it up later though.
>>565879910Half of a dozen Japanese wagecucks working 80 hours per week for a year is still going to be 20k+ hours worth of work.
>visiting mumberg and getting stuff she was storing for me>wanting to drink beer and eat nuggies>she immediately forces me to eat a slop enchilada ruining my appetite for beernuggies>wanted to download budokai 3>accidentally downloaded tenkaichi 3 on slow internetFuck me I hope this game is worth itYou never see these games in the competitive sphere do you?That's probably why I'm going to use them for my game idea, I don't like it when games blow up like Melee and get ruined by shit like "tech"
>>565880516Fuck it keeps failing...man I wish I didn't have to eat okaasan's food it's either really bland or overly salted/undercookedIf I had a few beers in my belly instead of sloppa I'd probably have been thinking straight not enough to download sloppaBreak the world's shell...
>>565881239Smash the world's shellFor the revolution of the world
My dream is to hire a big loli artist to draw the cover art of my game.
>>565878665https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DgRUJqrBVIMThis is my endgoal for combat at minimum.
>>565880516One hour 14 minutes...
It's my birthday aggybros...
>>565868192>>565867856rapeable, but rotate tranny is not
>>565883495Happy Birthday
>>565883495Happy Cinco de Mayo, sis.
>>565883495
>>565883495happy birthday anon. make a wish
Yo fuck troonlong
>>565883649how did you know I'm mexican?>>565883583>>565883686>>565883713thanks aggysisters
My experience interacting with people today:>some dude with an Indian coworker sold me disgusting green chile beer>a somewhat mentally handicapped girl flirted with me aggressivelyIs adgd ever forced to leave home and their precious game dev?
>>565883879A lot, and it makes me wanna KMS
>>565883879>>a somewhat mentally handicapped girl flirted with me aggressivelywhy didn't you cum in her mouth exactly?
>>565883980I'm actually very good looking and want a looksmatch gf, I saw a girl twice as attractive as her at the pharmacy soon after who fit the billIt's a shame she's so far away...>>565883972I do it rarely, I saw another foid at the vyvanse farm seething out of her mind
>>565884120>I'm actually very good looking and want a looksmatch gfYeah but you're retarded so that's not gonna work out chief, trust me i know
>>565883495Happy birthday, anon.
>>565884193What exactly do you know?
>>565884367https://youtu.be/XzCyApAtXJA?si=19MyJjvQoBKjsECA&t=182
>>565798789Is GB Studio fun?
>>565842425I just deved for 30 mins. I may have taken a 40 min break instead of the 5 mins I scheduled, but I'll get back to it soon and make more progress.
>>565884451I obviously already despise foids on a fundamental levelI'm good
>>565860639how does one make this much progress in a day?
>>565884705ngmi luddie
I'm just playing the numbers game now. Greattttttttt, fan-fuckin tastic
This beer sucks
Budokai 3 is dank though
>>565849489the luddites were right btw
I HATE!
iam punjab gamedev
>>565885236>the luddites were right btw
the jew betz, whatever happened there
>>565801671>https://www.twitch.tv/brimstonewalkerAye m8 thanks for streaming my game again
>>565884705its a simple game, and unreal makes shit pretty easy
Whats the best AI to use for 3D models/animations?
>>565885832meshy
Only the aftertaste is spicy and horrendous, chugging it has a subtle nuance of flavor...so I just gotta chase it with better, non-disgusting beer...
>>565885746Exactly, that's why I'm always so casual, Unreal has this shit in the bag, I'm just along for the ride
>>565885236uh oh
Stupid dog sleeping on my neck
>>565835216I started in 2013 and thinking back on it it's weird. I don't think I could have made a good game back then. I might have made one by accident I suppose but I wasn't thinking about gamedev on a level that would lead to success back then. On the other hand the code I wrote 10 years ago is something I'm struggling to understand today. Had I leaned into that I could have become some sort of coding savant and maybe that would have led to some autism game that had the potential to be big.
>>565886127>>565885934>>565886086
Sometimes I wonder if there are better places to discuss gamedev
I dont know what color to make the other bar in my ui!!!!! none of them work with the health bar!!!!!!!!!!!!
>>565886353yeah if you want to be a fantasist
i got my parkour system working
>>565835078>>565835232>>565835836>>565836927>>565846131>>565835961>>565837215>>565837652kill yourself
>>565887062this
>>565887062
>>565813281Yep. Not ashamed to admit it. At the end of the day the game I want to make is for me so why tf should I care about how it's made? I just want a finished game. The development journey is a means to an end. If you like coding, making art, music, etc then by all means do it yourself
>>565887062uhhh no
>>565887062this!! so much this!!!!
>>565886832Don’t give me that junk, this place is the negative opposite of a hugbox
>>565887574yeah, i knew that when i replied to you, retarded nigger
>>565862534>>why aren't you using this?>Try it free for 14 days. Low cost Unity AI subscription available for Personal Edition users after trial period.because of this
>>565887062Nah, Umar is ok
>>565887615I mean that nobody actually says anything of substance. There’s no true constructive criticism
>>565887713*umaru kek>>565887612That's it. You're in timeout, Kanna
Well that was terrible. Twice in a row it felt like I was asleep for a long and like I had many dreams with both times ending with a nightmare. About 2 hours of irl happened. This feels like a terrible night.>>5658352162010-2014What a nice time to make games. Standards are low and I can make games that don't need high complexity. I could use that time to cement myself as a major name in the indie space and get a large following. Would be easy to succeed imho>>565845809Link to the vids?
>>565887779
>>565887894Neither
>>565868607>>565868934>>565864034>>565869397>>565869662>>565874129>>565874493kill yourself
>>565888220this
>>565835216>would you prefer to develop in a time where making 100k after cuts off a game was considered "alright" vs. a time where making 60k after cuts puts you in the top 5%?
>>565888220uh oh meltie
I wish I could do it right
>>565888453You can! Get up offa that thing and just do it
>>565888143ok so it's mental retardation got it
>>565887713>>565887485>>565887612>>565887782>>565888360kill yourself
>>565888496I’m just not sure. I feel like i’m in a de-synced state
>>565888360>uh oh meltie>>565888580this
>>565888532…I’m beginning to think this place is bad for me
>>565888830you were ngmi anyway retard
146 days left, I owe 15 hours to my game. It's like some ominous version of that 99 bottles of beer song.It's day 7 of working on the tutorial that was supposed to take 4 days and isn't even necessary. I can only hope my huge underestimate of how long this would take is an outlier. It changes little, though. The game will simply have less content at release and if it flops no one will care, and if it does okay I can add content rapidly.
>>565888830run while you still canI am not kidding
>>565886982that dummy is quite striking
>>565888687I'm an AI chade thoughbeit
>>565889018
>>565889204kill yourself
>>565889204>>565889360
>>565889360>>565889381uh oh 'ddite meltie
>>565889413
>>565889204What did you use for the art? She's super cute
>>565889018Why
>>565889861save yourself from the harsh truth like a child
>>565889917Or?
>>565889413see >>565889360
>>565890110or what you drooling retard
>>565890287What’s it gonna take for you to show some kind of sympathy
Just ordered this. I'm gonna make it
>>565890381why would i do that
>>565890481just came up with a devious idea for a pen holder
>>565890808
is there any way to do low poly assets with image textures that don't involve creating these texture atlas things every time?
>>565891778Many.You can for example "paint with UVs" or you can bake textures from a highpoly mesh.
>>565891778Or projection paint textures, which is probably what you should do with that image, as the parts don't match.
>>565891778substance painter ($20 per month through steam) or armorpaint (free on github) can help a lot
>>565813146>>565818316>>565820504>>565887062>>565887129kill yourself
>>565892986uuuh no actually you kill yourself pedo tranny freak
>>565893115kill yourself
>>565798789:: Hirdrih Technologic ::progress :: Avietta, a character returning from Nortubel.
>>565893212>>565893115
Anyone got link to article/interview on Concerned Ape? Apparently drinking a lot of green tea helped him work and I would like to see if there are more things he did.
>>565895680didn't help him make air pear a success though
>>565895680What I do is cocaine. If I run out of cocaine I drink a lot of coffee. I have ativan (benzos) to counteract the stimulants when needed, green tea is for pussies.
>>565895901That's a different issue
>>565895938jamie larpister over here
>>565896109his methods are correct though, amphetamine comedowns are a bitch
>>565884501It's like the RPG Maker of GB homebrew, very good for beginnersIt's about as fun as you are creative
>need cocaine to make game>can't afford cocaine until I make game and get richcursed to nodev
>>565895680>Apparently drinking a lot of green tea helped him worksurely that's exactly the thing you're missing from making a game that sells millions of copies you better stand drinking loads of green tea and your big success game will suddenly plop into existence jesus christ how fucking stupid people are in this thread
>>565890481why are you ordering AI slop
>>565897212>helped him work = helped him make a game that sells millions of copiesjesus christ how fucking dogshit is your reading comprehension lol
>>565897317you're looking for some magic ingredient when the answer is get to fucking work and keep at it every day over 10 hours a day until you have a finished product
>>565897036alot of caffine works basically as well, just look up your bodyweight and the OD mg of caffine, and never go over half of that, obviously don't do this if your have a dodgy heart
>>565891778make an atlas once with more of a generic material themenot with lots of lighting like pic, rel, but this is the idea, grippy textures, rivets, all kinds of shit. then apply creativly to what you are making. if it's low poly and lowres, all your work will look consistent in style too
>>565897451im not looking for anything, im just saying he wasnt asking for some magic trick that will magically make the game. do you ever stop and consider that being such a miserable cunt has a negative effect on your life?
>>565897643*search "trim sheet", for the common term for this
I love that you've embraced the ancient tradition of simply stealing art instead of using a slopmachine to make a shittier version of artjust as it should be, as our ancestors have done
Getting nodes and properties by string is so fucking gross
>>565897363'tis true, i always been ridiculed in every corner of the internet and every team ive been on for not having any technical ability. I'm so glad I didn't waste years of my life on code and art.All anyone needs to make a game is a measly couple hundred bucks a month for tokens. We won AND IT FEELS GREAT! FUCK CODERS FUCK ARTISTS.
>>565898105how many wishlists so far, AIchadbro?
>>565895680He also had a loving supportive girlfriendWhat's next, you're gonna get one of those? HAHAHAHAHA
>>565898105How many games have you shipped so cfar?
>>565897212I suspect his procrastination issues were of the same nature as mine due to recent discoveries about what makes me more functional.
>>565898105this. to be honest though, I do feel a bit sad sometimes, you know, I was at a market in the weekend with my mom, and I saw an artist making people smile with his caricatures. they looked SO MUCH WORSE than what I could have prompted, but away from my PC... I couldn't show anyone what a ripoff that artist was and how great I was at prompting.
>>565898373>>565898587Several, two of which have very large communities. I wouldn't be able to go into detail because I'd be doxxed. That's the level I'm on.
>>565897658the perpetual nodevs here have no intention of actually making games so they spend all their days looking for these sorts of magical solutions and often post about that shit here months even years go by and they never started to make anything they never even tried and you're probably one of them
>>565884321thanks sis
>>565898885
>>565898105>FUCK CODERS FUCK ARTISTS.
>>565898737Well what did you discover? Share it with the class.
>>565898774'tis true although dedicating a big part of your life to be able to show strangers on the street some dog shit you are making is not worth it. In fact that artie you saw there was probably homeless.
>>565898774lol you should kill yourself
>>565898847Can you post a screenshot of your https://partner.steamgames.com page with potentially identifying information censored? Just so we're sure you're not trolling.
>>565899252kind of! I saw him leave in a sprinter van.
>>565899596why do you think I have to prove myself to you?>FUCK CODERS >FUCK ARTISTS
>>565899413if I die, who will inherit my prompts? no, I must breed with a female before I die.
>>565899596hello betz! you kike rat
>>565899826>>565899413
>>565899747Because your results are your only method of verifying that relying mainly on AI generation is viable for successful games? If you saw my challenge as an attack that warranted a childish response, then I highly doubt that you've dshipped even one game.
>>565899938it's not happening. I am not going to show you my projects, others have tried to bait me into doxxing myself and you aren't the first to do it or the last.
>>565899938nobody has anything to prove to you tranny, post YOUR game, fucking seething troon buy rope
>>565899918that's not funny
Guys I just made a game with my freakin prompt
>>565900158
>>565893715>>565899413>>565899918kill yourself
>>565900274you first child raping tranny freak, hope your next dilating session gives you sepsis
>>565900160>prompting games when real niggas are prompting AI to just give them the money
Todd Howard was prompting his team members to make Morrowind for him
>>565900468todd textured the buildings in redoran with scans of his balls
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