Ejection Seat EditionPrevious Thread: >>564352305A thread for all vehicle simulation games: racing sims, flight sims, train sims, submarine sims, tank sims, anything else sims which do not have enough traffic to sustain their own independent generals.>Extra attention grabbing search terms for example welcome sims/fsg/ /dcsg/ /fsxg/ /bmsg/ /shg/ /rofg/ /etsg/ /il2g/ /lfsg/ /tsg/>OP Pastebinhttps://pastebin.com/TxxE74ja (embed) (embed)>Planefag pastebin:https://rentry.co/simg>Tankfag pastebin:http://pastebin.com/EbdtnyPX (embed) (embed)>Boat- and subfag pastebinhttp://pastebin.com/JqTQWFFE (embed) (embed)>Repository of various aviation related material:https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B3EQDvufMNdeTUh4SE9WV0txa0E&usp=drive_web>Example of welcome simsFalcon BMS, DCS World, Rise of Flight, IL-2, Combat Helo, Microsoft Flight Simulator, X-Plane, Euro Truck Simulator 2, American Truck Simulator, Assetto Corsa, rFactor 2, Live for Speed, SAM Simulator, Steel Beasts Pro, Steel Armor: Blaze of War, Steel Fury: Kharkov 1942, Enemy Engaged: Comanche vs Hokum, Silent Hunter, Dangerous Waters, Train Simulator, Run8, Derail Valley, Farming Simulator 20XX, OMSI 2, DiRT: Rally, Ship Simulator, Cold Waters, UBOAT, Mud/Snowrunner, BeamNG.drive, Fishing & hunting games>Example of non-welcome games:Arm*, Ac* C*mbat, W*r Th*nder, W*rld of _____, The S*ms, S*m C*ty, G*at S*mulat*r
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PMK6GRrMCdI
>>565806339Yeah I can't find anything and there's no demo, looking at videos, it looks alright, just dated. The planning aspect is good and you can make routes and races easily.
>get in the Wilga>become a woman???
>>565798380Price and weather aside, the downsides aren't that bad. >>565798497>yeah that would not get modeledI wonder if they couldn't just spawn the relative assets for real within the mission but make them invisible to anything but the plane systems. At the end of the day in DCS what is the difference between showing a target on a FCR and it being actually in the sky, and it being only in the FCR itself?I guess that would make it laggy maybe, considering you'd have stuff constantly spawing in when necessary. (instructor pilot or ground control can spawn various missions and threads unbeknownst to the trainee)
>>565807213my understanding is that if you have ROF and the DLCs you can skip FC because it's an inferior moneygrab
>>565808396>>565809446seems to have been captured by racers, especially with the different versions which just charge you for racing qol features... guess everybody else got boredi might still pick it up screw it
>>565809446>At the end of the day in DCS what is the difference between showing a target on a FCR and it being actually in the sky, and it being only in the FCR itself?The difference is dev time vs perceived benefit.It's the same thing with training bombs. The few of use that want them get met with the barrage of>well it's a simulator, just use a real bomb instead
>>565809318
>didn't upload my picthanks
Rain is coming at last.
>>565809882yes I'm still skewing towards that. €50 isn't exactly cheap for what is essentially a new coat of paint. If it actually had more unique aircraft I'd possibly do it.
Hello I hate twist rudder
Save stating is still bugged in SU5, so workaround with replay flight has to be used. Enjoying the caravan so far, flying low, landing on airstrips. Larping as a delivery pilot.
>>565817594Meant to post different picture.
>>565817594I only tried saving a flight once in 2020 and trying to load would immediately crash the game, haven't bothered since.
>>565818486>>565817594 is talking about post-flight saving of stuff like fuel quantity, cockpit switch positions, wear/failure sytems
>>565818664I can't comment on that, it seems a bit iffy but it's not something I really use.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkDQBXH02fEMe flying taildraggers
What would have anon done?: https://u.pone.rs/nplfhknr.mp4
>>565826006board up the hole in the wall and return to simming
>>565826006Slewed up
>>565820131Certain 3rd party planes have option to enable persistence (i.e A2A and Black Square). It enables engine/airframe wear, chance of random failures happening and visible weathering (in case of A2A). Black Square had a bug, that this persistence hasn't been saved after flight so you had to use a workaround and restart the flight. Only then the state of the plane would be saved. It's a fun little feature wich I enjoy.
Might fall for the DCS WW2 meme, do you really need the WW2 maps in addition to the aircraft and assets to be able to do anything worthwhile?
>>565831074Depends on your definition of anything worthwhile
>>565838368It seems like its niche is Spitfire vs Dora over the Channel with barely anything outside of it, and only if you squint very hard.Mostly want to fuck around in a prop that's beefier than the Yak and occasionally make ground targets explode, love the flight model but am absolute shit at dogfighting.
>>565839337Why not just play IL2?
>>565839696I do, but DCS feels better to fly in and remembering a cockpit layout is easier than keybinds.
>>565809318The Wilga-Tranny wind tunnel is real and you're on it.
>TERRAIN
>>565809882>>565816876FC is trash and RoF ironically still has more advanced physics and modeling than nuIL2, because it was made by a better team before getting sold to 777 studios
any plane suggestions
>>565859503How do you not have the BF-109 already? At least in DCS, that thing is a blast, especially in VR since the cockpit is so cramped and wooden.
>>565862623Normandy and Bodenplatte already gave me the G-6 Late and G-14, along with the G-2 from Kuban(?) I'm alright not getting another Gustav model lol
>>565864065Fun fact; the BF-109 is named after how many countries the jews had been expelled from, and the BF-110 was named in celebration of adding Deutschland to that esteemed list.
>>565859503Yak-9T big boolet edition
I ended up buying the Soviet bundle with the La-5s, Yaks, Li-2 etc. Haven't actually flown much Russian stuff outside of the IL-2, in my 350 hours in this game. I think I'll sell some tf2 shit and pick up the regular C-47 as well. Transport flying is always comfy
>>565859503>any plane suggestionsStop being a steamcuck
>>565859503Ta 152 is just a slower D9 with lower roll rate. The altitude advantage is negligible in vanilla career since fights rarely take place in altitudes where it would matter. It looks freaky tho and has great armament.Can't speak to the IARs since I haven't bought them yet but I might.Skip the glider since transport missions are just boring in IL-2La-5F is a good plane but doesn't really bring anything different compared to the other La-5.Li-2 see above.Can't speak to FC content.Teardrop Spit is a complete waste of money, literally the same as the non teardrop version and you only get like an afternoon of flying in career.Ar 234 is great imo. Don't forget opening the camera cover on intel missions kek.C-47 see Li-2 Yak-9s are good with a nasty cannon that's fun to snipe with.U-2VS if you're a tranny, lets you fly as a women.La-5FN see above.G6, its a 109..very capable in its career timeframe though.Yak-1b is fine but nothing special.MC 202 is pretty interesting imo, gorgeous plane but it's guns take some getting used to. Very similar flight characteristics to the 109s of its theater.La-5 see above.
>>565859503Something about charging double digit prices for planes that don't even have clickable cockpits seems insane to me.
>>565875695Anyone with above a 70IQ quit playing nuIL2 decade ago
>>565879548There's no real alternative for modern WW2 sims, 1946 has all of the issues of its era plus added mod jank.
>>565881218NuIl2 doesn't even model separate fuel tanks, fuck off. It's a huge down grade in every way from the original series. Get a grip, and do some research, kiddo
>>565870296>complains about customer protectiony tho
>>565887080>NuIl2 doesn't even model separate fuel tanksThat's just straight up not true, punk.
>>565867945Really makes you think
ATS 1.59 is out, the main addition being the 'tow to road' function.
>>5658870801946 flight models are FSX-tier at best, and most aircraft are cobbled together from the hopes and dreams of boomer modders rather than any proper primary sources. The AI is also dogshit.
>>565906965X plane clouds either look decent or shit
>>565907128Yeah, it's very hit or miss.
>>565907205The clouds in msfs 20/24 are too blobby imo, they need more definition.
>>565907540The problem is that they are massive resources sinks with an early peak in terms of cost/benefits. It's sad that no simulator has even gotten remotely close to capturing just how sharp and defined clouds can be even when you're a few meters from them.
>>565909220I have no idea what determines their definition and sharpness in the game, but sometimes they look alright.I don't even know what the fuck is going on here though>>565906965
>>565901051Did they fix the buttfuck retarded UI?
>>565911750Depends on what you find retarded, there are more UI improvements in the update
Gliding practice today
>>565917943Who needs runways?
>>565907128>>565907540>>565909220>>565909460It would take a supercomputer to do it right.
World Update 21: Australia is out for MSFS 2020/2024
>>565920935and with it Local Legend 24: The CAC Boomerang
Since when was this free?
>>565921507https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9fjU5Y5ixU
>>565921573Fair enough I didn't even see that
>>565921889>Parallel 42 is proud to announce our latest addon for Microsoft Flight Simulator: Cockpit Combat™!
>>565922715>The clickable cockpit now includes the crash axe
>>565922715>flying a C152>the passenger starts attacking and you have to fight them off>open the door and throw them out to survive
>>565922715
>>565924000What the fuck is this? It looks like a music video.
>>565925214https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6s1Z7cfGeVM
>>565925214Mentour pilot's video on this incident
If you ever feel down about razbam stealing your planes, or ED protecting Russian state secrets, just remember how good simulation enthusiasts have it (not you though, assoboe cucks).
>>565922998>wilhelm scream plays
>Fire up the caravan>Forgot to take the engine covers>ITT immediately goes above the scale>Loud bang>Engine condition: 0%
>>565932190>Black Square King Air>had to land in the desert at night>it's nearly 50C in the day>too hot to start the turboprops>condition races to 0% during starting and breaks the engines>cheat to get around this by spamming repair as I start the engines
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93d5aVYOpfosimwave
>>565900436>That's just straight up not true, punk.The devs themselves said the code can't handle drop tanks, lmao
>>565934838Kek. Never thought that would've work.
>>565940805Then learn to fucking express yourself properly you mong. Separate tanks doesn't mean drop tanks. Most aircraft in IL-2 have separate tanks and their fuel usage and leakage are modeled.
>>565925819Wrong board
>>565944126You're on the wrong website.
>>565950170Sentenced to isolation in a capsule dropped on the ocean
>>565941346>Most aircraft in IL-2 have separate tanks and their fuel usage and leakage are modeled.They're not.You can look this up on the official forums. The engine is incapable of modeling that. It's one of the reasons why Jason (of 777) studios left the company
>>565953886what the fuck are you on about? If your wing tank gets shot and your aircraft has gauges for that tank you can easily watch it drain.
>>565953886>>565954969Please keep arguing for the next 10 hours or so to keep the thread alive overnight.
>>565955161There is nothing to argue about here. First he moves the goalposts under the guise of not knowing the difference only to then move on to straight up fabricating stuff.
>>565956257>>565954969There's a flight sim called "Rise of Flight" maybe you've heard of it? Anyways, it's a WW1 sim, and since it was a WW1 sim primary single engine based, it didn't model separate fuel tanks. The new version of IL-2 based off the same engine, doesn't either.Have a nice day
IL-2 Korea has drop tanks so I guess that is fixed
>>565958383Skyraider in the first DLC, i believe.
>>56595810Nu-IL2 does have physical modeled fuel tanks, they're just modeled as two big blobs along the centerline and don't correspond to any real aircraft at all. Korea should fix that.The new warbird damage model in DCS is pretty good, too.
>>565961902>correspond to any real aircraft at allThey also function as one big tank, on a timer. All systems just run on a timer as soon as the mission starts
>>565965683>All systems just run on a timer as soon as the mission startsThis is what i dislike with Il-2. Everything is arcadey and made up. And yet its still the only game that will provide an adequate WW2 experience.
>>565920935I've been lucky enough to fly around Lord Howe IRL, it's beautiful - hopefully they've done a good job.
>>565958103Have you ever played IL-2 BoX? I don't understand how you could play it for more than 5h and not notice that. How come if you stream fuel from your right wing, the gauge for that tank drops faster than the others?Is this some weird semantics game you're playing?
Wings Over Flanders Fieldbros...
>>565970791Il2 (new) doesn't model separate fuel tanks, it can only model a fixed internal fuel amount that's set on a timer. This is why drop tanks have not been in the game for the past 13 years. They are not capable of being modeled in the current engine. You're more than welcome to visit the official IL2 forum instead of posting here to gain further knowledge and history of the games engine development and limitations.
In fact, PM LukeFF, I'm sure he'll help you out
lol, lmao evenhttps://steamcommunity.com/app/307960/discussions/0/4416424085347929594/?tscn=1719640895
>>565980235All of the autists who were old enough to fly real WW2 planes (or to have dads who did) peaked in their technical competence in the late-90s / early-00s and then either died or ended up in a retirement home.The conflict has passed out of living memory, a majority of potential reference airframes have crumbled into dust, and, barring some new pop-culture phenomenon, mainstream interest in the era is effectively dead.
>>565986374>using steam for player numbers
I'm going to sleep. You fags better behave.
>>565987681It's a consistent percentage of the players, which is useful enough to analyze a trend.
>>565994193Less than 5% of all old IL2 players bought the game through steam though. Steam analytics only works for pure steam releases
And helll, half of nu Il2 players didn't buy it through steam either
>>565995108Half of them probably didn't buy it at all.
>>565994419Steam is a representative sample.
I've been giving out direct down load links to sims that for all intents and purposes should be abandonedware on the steam forums, so far I haven't had any posts deleted
up
I like planes.
>>565925819>razbam stealing your planes>ignores literal video evidence of Nick Gray admitting they withheld Razbam money despite them acting within their contract just because MCS/DCS wanted to be able to milk Tucano gig. >still believing the muh russian state secrets lieI am tired of retards like you. Are you the "F-35 is open source!" meltdown schizo?
Doing VFR trip around the country, landing on various grass airstrips. Plane is getting dirtier with each start and landing.
>>566012563Gonna wash it on the next airstrip that has some infrastructure.
>>565969321Very nice, how did you get that opportunity?
>>566023071The Piper Cub is all you need from an aeroplane, anything else is excessive.
>>566023794Agreed. It could use twenty or so more horsepower though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AHCfZTRGiI
>>566024080*teleports behind you*
>>566024276I presume there's no real need for a supersonic trainer if they're replacing the T-38 with it?
>>566024354>Jet engine>Fabric-covered taildraggerNow that looks exciting.
>>566024665If it stays purely as a trainer then it's not that useful, trainers nowadays need to teach SA and SYS management more than flying, and flying supersonic is not something that has to be taught. Aside from the fact that it uses the F-18 engine so you already have part commonality and economy of scale there are no real benefits. If you're already aiming for an armed variant of your trainer for future sales pitches then it's a different story and it can really help, especially with poorer nations that can't afford both an advanced trainer and a real fighter. IMHO in the future armed trainers are going to play a key role in anti drone operations when paired with APWKSII etc, due to their lower operational costs compared to frontline fighters, so it becomes a difference in philosophy between wanting a supersonic afterburning trainer for faster intercepts, or the safety from redundancy with 2 engines in the case of the M-346.
>>566008773>muh russian state secretsBelieve it or not, every ruble you spend in the sim goes to supporting the creation of even more russian state secrets
>>566026118You should get a job at Leonardo in the sales department, have you considering applying? Unironically.
>>566008773>Are you the "F-35 is open source!" meltdown schizo?No, BUT this is not the first time you have accused me of being him. Perhaps you are the schizo one here.
>>566027539I think they only hire the crème de la crème of recent graduates even for those roles. I'm wholly unqualified.
Currently getting downloading of planes and airports off flightsim.to which I'll probably never use. It's impressive how detailed some of this freeware is, it could easily be sold as payware.
Bit cloudy today innit ?
>>566038806Whoop whoop, pull up
Does Il-2 AI ever dive bomb correctly or will they always level bomb?
The clouds are looking alright today.
>>566034589Make your own company get popular and get bought out. "My qualifications? NDA"
>>566043291M-346 enterprises, we make your dreams into M-346s.
>>566034589You think they'd rather hire some broccoli headed rap music enthusiast who doesn't know how to use a mouse over you?
>>566046403Engineering jobs only care about experience, if the broccoli headed rap enthusiast has even the slightest bit of relevant experience he'll get the position.
>>566046578Not a sales position. Just tell them how you learned every system on the plane inside and out, and how it fills you with national pride.
>they finally released benelux reworkI've waited to long for this
>>566047508Finally, it was awful in the game.
>>566047054>Not a sales positionSales positions for those kind of systems at Leonardo are often given to ex Engineering dep heads and other big shots who already have clearances and dealt with foreign AFs. At most I would be able to get a job as a social media donkey, my current job is soulless but at least it pays somewhat good.
>>566048184Just send Luigi Leonardo an email with webms of your landings in sims and he'll be impressed.
>>566054128Great idea
>>565859503Should I get flying circus? If yes, which volume to start with.Or just don't bother and download rise of flight
I am currently larping as Snowman in ATS.Kenworth W900, Trailer with specific paintjob, etc., however, what is missing is the sleeper cabin.Now the problem is that the Smokey and the Bandit trucks was a short-framed one, and you can't get a short frame with a cabin in the vanilla game.My workshop-fu is really weak, and now matter how hard I look I can't find a short-frame sleeper cabin W900.Does such a mod even exist or am out of luck?
>>566065167Not sure what to suggest beyond look around online, there might be one on an obscure site.
>>565900436>That's just straight up not true, punk.it's straight up true>>565941346>>565954969>>565970791the other anon is right>>565887080>>565940805>>565953886>>565980235
>>566076290>2018then why does the punctured tank drain first? if they were all connected you couldn't see a difference in fuel level
>>566078341>then why does the punctured tank drain first?let it drain completely and see if the other tanks remain at their levels, or if they drain out the leak through the crossfeed system
>>566076290We need more autism in simulation game design.
>>566091570I love the HIP.
>>566091570>>566093508I love fat ass soviet helicopters.
>>566091570>>566093508Mindless CTLD logistics with the Hip is one of my favorite ways to relax.
>>566078341It's all smoke and mirrors m8Even LukeFF there acknowledged IL2 is based off the rof one tank system >>565983072
>>565879548IL-2 is still the best for WW1 aircraft. For WW2 or Korea I don't really care.
>>566008773> "F-35 is open source!"kek that was a blast
>>566100685>IL-2 is still the best for WW1 aircraft.kek no it isnt
>>566100685>IL-2 is still the best for WW1 aircraftNot even close, RoF >>566100685beats it by a mile
Sank my own uboat with torpedoes
>>566102296> sank my own uboatHow does that work?
apparently Condor 3 doesn't have clickable cockpitswat
>>566102382
>>566017946Spent some time earlier in my life in Dash 8s that did border patrol flights, got to fly around Norfolk, Christmas and Cocos Islands too. I've had a little bit of a look in MSFS, looks like they've done a reasonable job with all of them, even with Christmas and Norfolk generating their own weather down to the runway on a lot of days haha
>>566102434What do you need to click on a glider though? Just sit back, grip your stick, and listen to the siren song of the variometer. Maybe do some drugs while you're at it, you fuckin hippie.
>>566008773> No Tucano everThe only loser in that shitshow, was me: The player
Bit of 1946 tonightStill having some issues getting my full STECS throttle working with it.I can use the main bit just fine, but the extra buttons on the STEM module don't register, from what I assume is a button limit in the game itself. (The slider works weirdly enough) Haven't had any luck with vjoy and joystick gremlin.The only other idea I can think of might be to create another vjoy device and bind all the STEM buttons to that one, but I'm already at the 4 device limit (stick, throttle, pedals, and throttle quadrant) so I don't know if it will actually work
>>566121591kek
My anus is trimmed for speed.
>>566130510I also want to get a simracing buttplug for haptics
>>566134881Currently doing flight around the country, landing mainly on grass runways.Thinking about doing next one around Europe with caravan or aerostar.
>>566135691Nice.
>>566135691But did you invest in Eastern Poland?
>>566138143Never in my life I've been in the east of my country. However we will see how flying in the msfs goes there.
>>566138679Doing country tours is fun, and you see more when you're not in a fast plane. Poland has nice mountains doesn't it?
>>566141340There are some nice views on the souths in the mountains.I also like the sea coast. Middle however is just flatlands.Flying that way is relaxing though. Gives a sense of progress other than doing only some random airfield to airfield routes.
>>566130953
>>566103070I was massively raping a Japanese fleet in SH IV but randomly exploded, instantly sinking me with all hands lost. Presumably a torpedo turned around on me because I doubt the game models catastrophic torpedo failures in the tube.
>>566143092Good enough for USS Tang, good enough for you
>>566143092Maybe the torpedo was in the wrong way round
>>566142649logitech spotted
>>566142649The keyboard is the faggiest thing in than video.
>>566147673It was definitely filmed by a tranny
>AAU4 misses its own deadline: four of five aircraft still not released, including the updated ATR>The MSFS team confirmed on the official forums that the ATR 42/72-600, Antonov An-2, Latécoère 631, and Savoia-Marchetti S.55 and S.55X are “still in the final stages of polish” and will release “as soon as they are ready.”
>>566149087An-2 is comfy
Found this while looking up sub wrecks. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mHlySgpCEsoIt's apparently uploaded to Oculus at a better resolution.
>>566151285Look at the stains on the paneling, this is why you wear a shirt
Pissing it down with rain, perfect gliding weather.
>>566157279You what, there are thermals here
Does anyone has the .webm of that VR anon who didnt know how to properly make reduced size .webms so they ended up looking like lost footage? I'm talking about the 9/11 ones. I think Im having the same issue so I understand him perfectly now lmao.
There's me saying the weather needs work, I'm impressed.
>>566157484I read somewhere that you could have rain front thermals : if ground air is warm it will be pushed in front and above of the cloud line by the colder rain.
>>566160348Yeah looking into it and it's a real thing, on the edge of rainclouds you can get updrafts, but in the centre of the cloud you get bad sink which is what I experienced. I unfortunately lost it and had to come back to land, but was up there long enough. It was hard to tell where the 'edges' were visually.
Any field is a runway for gliders
>>566172648I love ultralights so much lads
>>566174775Honestly I'd rather fly anything over a tubeliner. Weird little GA planes and helis are what does it for me, basically anything that doesn't have a yoke to break my VR immersion.
>>566175673I fly everything, and still do enjoy tubelinery stuff from time to time, but actually flying a little plane and being able to feel it and see everything is so much fun. If I want to scratch the tubeliner itch I'll fly a bizjet, and the older airliners are more interesting at least.
Does anyone know what the 'Dive recovery on/off' keybind in IL-2 does? I can manually extend the JU dive brakes, then manually turn on the siren, but the dive recovery on doesn't seem to do anything.
>>566178104Maybe it's plane-specific
>>566142649women play DCS?
>>566179809>women
>>566142649
>>566179268I thought it might be, but apparently the Ju-87 dive recovery system is supposed to auto turn on the siren, then turn it off as a way to signal when to drop the bomb. That doesn't seem to be happening for me.
>>566180198I had a crush on her when I was a kid.
>>566180875I think there is some confusion here.There are two sirens. The B has a siren (noisemaker) that is turned on when you extend the dive brakes.That one also has an automatic bomb release as per the contact altimeter setting.The D variant has no diving siren, but a signal siren that tells you when your desired release height is reached, and then you have to release manually.However, in BAT, the bomb release siren never stops for me. Which IL-2 are you playing, anyway?
Trying my hand at helicopter in anticipation of TAOG's Dolphin.Shit's flying like the worst possibly designed airplane and is a terrible hazard. But I'm slowly getting the hang of it.
>>566187336Don't worry, it gets better after a few hundred hours.
>>566187336I'm still shit with helis, when I get a few metres off the ground I swing around like an absolute madman and panic.
>>566187336>>566191260Why are the trees still so shit? You'd think it be pretty easy to fix that and not make them look like green fuzzballs.
>>566187336>>566190216There are maybe half a dozen specific drills to work through to help with coordination, but IMO the most helpful is just keeping your nose fixed on the ATC tower and doing left/right orbits around it without losing any altitude. Keep going until you can do it around a flagpole without thinking too hard.Pirouettes are fun, too.
>>566205072so fs24 night still looks like vomit eh?
>Studio 397 actually added KERS to the 2012 carone of the first cars in the game is the last to get completed.
>>566218124My little torpedophile
>>566197840Will try. I can see myself enjoying the challenge, there is something very satisfying when you manage to fly those god-forsaken creations the way you want.>>566190216For now the most important things I found are :- be gentle on the commands. Since you always need to react better go slower. Except for liftoff where if you take too long to raise the collective you risk to slide or spin because of point ground contact.- When things are getting out of hand just let the cyclic go and let the machine stabilize for itself.- if you use some rudder input you may want to lower the sensibility.- When coming down ALWAYS keep vertical speed in check. If you're above -500fpm you're going to have a hard time managing the power up/power down changes as you get closer to the ground.- When you get closer to the ground the copter will shake and go down and you need to give a solid cyclic pull, and the opposite will happen when you get into ground effect.-This video around the 3:30 marks gives a very good visual explanation of the complex input balance needed to keep your ride in check : https://youtu.be/4R9e7rrB7KoAnd I don't have much experience so if anyone knows better please correct me.
>>566242553When I was learning to fly helicopters in DCS I've found that staying patient and not overcorrecting was the key for me. This and watching out for VRS and retreating blade stall. I would often practice via taking the copter up on the runway and taxi hover around the taxi ways.
Arado jet bomber is fun Once I figured how to start the thing at least
Okay now this is just crazy work!
>>566242776Hover taxiing is surprisingly difficult, tweaking my throttle/collective curve helped, but it's still awkward on a t16000m
>>566258457Yeah, T16000M is not ideal for helis. Doing it with paddles on the throttle is better than twisting the stick, but still not ideal. When I've bought rudder pedals it became easy then. Don't buy cheap pedals from thrustmaster though, they are a nightmare.
>>566259105When I have the money I'll probably get vkb stick + throttle and maybe winwing pedals...when I have the money.
>>566259716WHen I've flown with thrustmaster, the heavy helis like Hind and MI-17 were pretty easy to handle with paddles. However, the twitchy, small OH-6 was a pain in the ass. When I've bought the small VKB pedals it was a world changing experience though. Good luck with your learning, helis are so much fun. I'm waiting for MI-2 now.
>>566260756It sounds like DCS is much better for helis but you're restricted on where you can go.
>>566242553>>566242776>>VRSpractice vuichard recoveries, VRS is simulated as a trigger condition in most sims so you can get out of it at pretty unrealistic altitudes if you're quick enough to react
On today's stupid challenge : crossing the Channel in the Mozzie (was not particularly challengefull to be honest).
>>566262920>VRSInteresting. Is that what is happening in MSFS when the aircraft starts to vibrate and lose altitude ? I thought this was the normal way of landing...
>>566268351Cross the Alps next
>>566269974Will do.
>>566269974calm your horses napoleon hannibal
>ordered wheel online>anxiety kicks in as the wait begins It's a long way to Gallipoli friends.
>>566269515Yeah, the shake is a warning sign that your rotor is starting to ingest its own downwash. Don't let it do that. The collective isn't really a thrust control, it's a lift control. You can't make more lift if your airfoil is stuck in the middle of a low-pressure vortex no matter how hard you pull on the lever, so you need to move it out of that zone and into stable air it can push against. VRS is basically a stall across the whole rotor disc, aka your "wing", and you get out of it in almost the same way as any other stall.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dW8gCfBcIW0
>>5662695152024 supposedly has VRS in it but it seems relatively tame from the last time I tried to force it. You get it from low forward airspeed and you're descending don't you? Where you fall through your own vortex?
The journey continues.
Near the mountains, through some light weather. Avoiding some heavier precipitation.
And ending that leg on some up-sloped airstrip in the eastern side of the mountains. Take off should be fun there.
>>566272653Yeah, or when trying to hover.
