Ejection Seat EditionPrevious Thread: >>564352305A thread for all vehicle simulation games: racing sims, flight sims, train sims, submarine sims, tank sims, anything else sims which do not have enough traffic to sustain their own independent generals.>Extra attention grabbing search terms for example welcome sims/fsg/ /dcsg/ /fsxg/ /bmsg/ /shg/ /rofg/ /etsg/ /il2g/ /lfsg/ /tsg/>OP Pastebinhttps://pastebin.com/TxxE74ja (embed) (embed)>Planefag pastebin:https://rentry.co/simg>Tankfag pastebin:http://pastebin.com/EbdtnyPX (embed) (embed)>Boat- and subfag pastebinhttp://pastebin.com/JqTQWFFE (embed) (embed)>Repository of various aviation related material:https://drive.google.com/folderview?id=0B3EQDvufMNdeTUh4SE9WV0txa0E&usp=drive_web>Example of welcome simsFalcon BMS, DCS World, Rise of Flight, IL-2, Combat Helo, Microsoft Flight Simulator, X-Plane, Euro Truck Simulator 2, American Truck Simulator, Assetto Corsa, rFactor 2, Live for Speed, SAM Simulator, Steel Beasts Pro, Steel Armor: Blaze of War, Steel Fury: Kharkov 1942, Enemy Engaged: Comanche vs Hokum, Silent Hunter, Dangerous Waters, Train Simulator, Run8, Derail Valley, Farming Simulator 20XX, OMSI 2, DiRT: Rally, Ship Simulator, Cold Waters, UBOAT, Mud/Snowrunner, BeamNG.drive, Fishing & hunting games>Example of non-welcome games:Arm*, Ac* C*mbat, W*r Th*nder, W*rld of _____, The S*ms, S*m C*ty, G*at S*mulat*r
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>>565806339Yeah I can't find anything and there's no demo, looking at videos, it looks alright, just dated. The planning aspect is good and you can make routes and races easily.
>get in the Wilga>become a woman???
>>565798380Price and weather aside, the downsides aren't that bad. >>565798497>yeah that would not get modeledI wonder if they couldn't just spawn the relative assets for real within the mission but make them invisible to anything but the plane systems. At the end of the day in DCS what is the difference between showing a target on a FCR and it being actually in the sky, and it being only in the FCR itself?I guess that would make it laggy maybe, considering you'd have stuff constantly spawing in when necessary. (instructor pilot or ground control can spawn various missions and threads unbeknownst to the trainee)
>>565807213my understanding is that if you have ROF and the DLCs you can skip FC because it's an inferior moneygrab
>>565808396>>565809446seems to have been captured by racers, especially with the different versions which just charge you for racing qol features... guess everybody else got boredi might still pick it up screw it
>>565809446>At the end of the day in DCS what is the difference between showing a target on a FCR and it being actually in the sky, and it being only in the FCR itself?The difference is dev time vs perceived benefit.It's the same thing with training bombs. The few of use that want them get met with the barrage of>well it's a simulator, just use a real bomb instead
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>didn't upload my picthanks
Rain is coming at last.
>>565809882yes I'm still skewing towards that. €50 isn't exactly cheap for what is essentially a new coat of paint. If it actually had more unique aircraft I'd possibly do it.
Hello I hate twist rudder
Save stating is still bugged in SU5, so workaround with replay flight has to be used. Enjoying the caravan so far, flying low, landing on airstrips. Larping as a delivery pilot.
>>565817594Meant to post different picture.
>>565817594I only tried saving a flight once in 2020 and trying to load would immediately crash the game, haven't bothered since.
>>565818486>>565817594 is talking about post-flight saving of stuff like fuel quantity, cockpit switch positions, wear/failure sytems
>>565818664I can't comment on that, it seems a bit iffy but it's not something I really use.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HkDQBXH02fEMe flying taildraggers
What would have anon done?: https://u.pone.rs/nplfhknr.mp4
>>565826006board up the hole in the wall and return to simming
>>565826006Slewed up
>>565820131Certain 3rd party planes have option to enable persistence (i.e A2A and Black Square). It enables engine/airframe wear, chance of random failures happening and visible weathering (in case of A2A). Black Square had a bug, that this persistence hasn't been saved after flight so you had to use a workaround and restart the flight. Only then the state of the plane would be saved. It's a fun little feature wich I enjoy.
Might fall for the DCS WW2 meme, do you really need the WW2 maps in addition to the aircraft and assets to be able to do anything worthwhile?
>>565831074Depends on your definition of anything worthwhile
>>565838368It seems like its niche is Spitfire vs Dora over the Channel with barely anything outside of it, and only if you squint very hard.Mostly want to fuck around in a prop that's beefier than the Yak and occasionally make ground targets explode, love the flight model but am absolute shit at dogfighting.
>>565839337Why not just play IL2?
>>565839696I do, but DCS feels better to fly in and remembering a cockpit layout is easier than keybinds.
>>565809318The Wilga-Tranny wind tunnel is real and you're on it.
>TERRAIN
>>565809882>>565816876FC is trash and RoF ironically still has more advanced physics and modeling than nuIL2, because it was made by a better team before getting sold to 777 studios
any plane suggestions
>>565859503How do you not have the BF-109 already? At least in DCS, that thing is a blast, especially in VR since the cockpit is so cramped and wooden.
>>565862623Normandy and Bodenplatte already gave me the G-6 Late and G-14, along with the G-2 from Kuban(?) I'm alright not getting another Gustav model lol
>>565864065Fun fact; the BF-109 is named after how many countries the jews had been expelled from, and the BF-110 was named in celebration of adding Deutschland to that esteemed list.
>>565859503Yak-9T big boolet edition
I ended up buying the Soviet bundle with the La-5s, Yaks, Li-2 etc. Haven't actually flown much Russian stuff outside of the IL-2, in my 350 hours in this game. I think I'll sell some tf2 shit and pick up the regular C-47 as well. Transport flying is always comfy
>>565859503>any plane suggestionsStop being a steamcuck
>>565859503Ta 152 is just a slower D9 with lower roll rate. The altitude advantage is negligible in vanilla career since fights rarely take place in altitudes where it would matter. It looks freaky tho and has great armament.Can't speak to the IARs since I haven't bought them yet but I might.Skip the glider since transport missions are just boring in IL-2La-5F is a good plane but doesn't really bring anything different compared to the other La-5.Li-2 see above.Can't speak to FC content.Teardrop Spit is a complete waste of money, literally the same as the non teardrop version and you only get like an afternoon of flying in career.Ar 234 is great imo. Don't forget opening the camera cover on intel missions kek.C-47 see Li-2 Yak-9s are good with a nasty cannon that's fun to snipe with.U-2VS if you're a tranny, lets you fly as a women.La-5FN see above.G6, its a 109..very capable in its career timeframe though.Yak-1b is fine but nothing special.MC 202 is pretty interesting imo, gorgeous plane but it's guns take some getting used to. Very similar flight characteristics to the 109s of its theater.La-5 see above.
>>565859503Something about charging double digit prices for planes that don't even have clickable cockpits seems insane to me.
>>565875695Anyone with above a 70IQ quit playing nuIL2 decade ago
>>565879548There's no real alternative for modern WW2 sims, 1946 has all of the issues of its era plus added mod jank.
>>565881218NuIl2 doesn't even model separate fuel tanks, fuck off. It's a huge down grade in every way from the original series. Get a grip, and do some research, kiddo
>>565870296>complains about customer protectiony tho
>>565887080>NuIl2 doesn't even model separate fuel tanksThat's just straight up not true, punk.
>>565867945Really makes you think
ATS 1.59 is out, the main addition being the 'tow to road' function.
>>5658870801946 flight models are FSX-tier at best, and most aircraft are cobbled together from the hopes and dreams of boomer modders rather than any proper primary sources. The AI is also dogshit.
>>565906965X plane clouds either look decent or shit
>>565907128Yeah, it's very hit or miss.
>>565907205The clouds in msfs 20/24 are too blobby imo, they need more definition.
>>565907540The problem is that they are massive resources sinks with an early peak in terms of cost/benefits. It's sad that no simulator has even gotten remotely close to capturing just how sharp and defined clouds can be even when you're a few meters from them.
>>565909220I have no idea what determines their definition and sharpness in the game, but sometimes they look alright.I don't even know what the fuck is going on here though>>565906965
>>565901051Did they fix the buttfuck retarded UI?
>>565911750Depends on what you find retarded, there are more UI improvements in the update
Gliding practice today
>>565917943Who needs runways?
>>565907128>>565907540>>565909220>>565909460It would take a supercomputer to do it right.
World Update 21: Australia is out for MSFS 2020/2024
>>565920935and with it Local Legend 24: The CAC Boomerang
Since when was this free?
>>565921507https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m9fjU5Y5ixU
>>565921573Fair enough I didn't even see that
>>565921889>Parallel 42 is proud to announce our latest addon for Microsoft Flight Simulator: Cockpit Combat™!
>>565922715>The clickable cockpit now includes the crash axe
>>565922715>flying a C152>the passenger starts attacking and you have to fight them off>open the door and throw them out to survive
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>>565924000What the fuck is this? It looks like a music video.
>>565925214https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6s1Z7cfGeVM
>>565925214Mentour pilot's video on this incident
If you ever feel down about razbam stealing your planes, or ED protecting Russian state secrets, just remember how good simulation enthusiasts have it (not you though, assoboe cucks).
>>565922998>wilhelm scream plays
>Fire up the caravan>Forgot to take the engine covers>ITT immediately goes above the scale>Loud bang>Engine condition: 0%
>>565932190>Black Square King Air>had to land in the desert at night>it's nearly 50C in the day>too hot to start the turboprops>condition races to 0% during starting and breaks the engines>cheat to get around this by spamming repair as I start the engines
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=93d5aVYOpfosimwave
>>565900436>That's just straight up not true, punk.The devs themselves said the code can't handle drop tanks, lmao
>>565934838Kek. Never thought that would've work.
>>565940805Then learn to fucking express yourself properly you mong. Separate tanks doesn't mean drop tanks. Most aircraft in IL-2 have separate tanks and their fuel usage and leakage are modeled.
>>565925819Wrong board
>>565944126You're on the wrong website.
>>565950170Sentenced to isolation in a capsule dropped on the ocean
>>565941346>Most aircraft in IL-2 have separate tanks and their fuel usage and leakage are modeled.They're not.You can look this up on the official forums. The engine is incapable of modeling that. It's one of the reasons why Jason (of 777) studios left the company
>>565953886what the fuck are you on about? If your wing tank gets shot and your aircraft has gauges for that tank you can easily watch it drain.
>>565953886>>565954969Please keep arguing for the next 10 hours or so to keep the thread alive overnight.
>>565955161There is nothing to argue about here. First he moves the goalposts under the guise of not knowing the difference only to then move on to straight up fabricating stuff.
>>565956257>>565954969There's a flight sim called "Rise of Flight" maybe you've heard of it? Anyways, it's a WW1 sim, and since it was a WW1 sim primary single engine based, it didn't model separate fuel tanks. The new version of IL-2 based off the same engine, doesn't either.Have a nice day
IL-2 Korea has drop tanks so I guess that is fixed
>>565958383Skyraider in the first DLC, i believe.
>>56595810Nu-IL2 does have physical modeled fuel tanks, they're just modeled as two big blobs along the centerline and don't correspond to any real aircraft at all. Korea should fix that.The new warbird damage model in DCS is pretty good, too.
>>565961902>correspond to any real aircraft at allThey also function as one big tank, on a timer. All systems just run on a timer as soon as the mission starts
>>565965683>All systems just run on a timer as soon as the mission startsThis is what i dislike with Il-2. Everything is arcadey and made up. And yet its still the only game that will provide an adequate WW2 experience.
>>565920935I've been lucky enough to fly around Lord Howe IRL, it's beautiful - hopefully they've done a good job.
>>565958103Have you ever played IL-2 BoX? I don't understand how you could play it for more than 5h and not notice that. How come if you stream fuel from your right wing, the gauge for that tank drops faster than the others?Is this some weird semantics game you're playing?
Wings Over Flanders Fieldbros...
>>565970791Il2 (new) doesn't model separate fuel tanks, it can only model a fixed internal fuel amount that's set on a timer. This is why drop tanks have not been in the game for the past 13 years. They are not capable of being modeled in the current engine. You're more than welcome to visit the official IL2 forum instead of posting here to gain further knowledge and history of the games engine development and limitations.
In fact, PM LukeFF, I'm sure he'll help you out
lol, lmao evenhttps://steamcommunity.com/app/307960/discussions/0/4416424085347929594/?tscn=1719640895
>>565980235All of the autists who were old enough to fly real WW2 planes (or to have dads who did) peaked in their technical competence in the late-90s / early-00s and then either died or ended up in a retirement home.The conflict has passed out of living memory, a majority of potential reference airframes have crumbled into dust, and, barring some new pop-culture phenomenon, mainstream interest in the era is effectively dead.
>>565986374>using steam for player numbers
I'm going to sleep. You fags better behave.
>>565987681It's a consistent percentage of the players, which is useful enough to analyze a trend.
>>565994193Less than 5% of all old IL2 players bought the game through steam though. Steam analytics only works for pure steam releases
And helll, half of nu Il2 players didn't buy it through steam either
>>565995108Half of them probably didn't buy it at all.
>>565994419Steam is a representative sample.
I've been giving out direct down load links to sims that for all intents and purposes should be abandonedware on the steam forums, so far I haven't had any posts deleted
up
I like planes.
>>565925819>razbam stealing your planes>ignores literal video evidence of Nick Gray admitting they withheld Razbam money despite them acting within their contract just because MCS/DCS wanted to be able to milk Tucano gig. >still believing the muh russian state secrets lieI am tired of retards like you. Are you the "F-35 is open source!" meltdown schizo?
Doing VFR trip around the country, landing on various grass airstrips. Plane is getting dirtier with each start and landing.
>>566012563Gonna wash it on the next airstrip that has some infrastructure.
>>565969321Very nice, how did you get that opportunity?
>>566023071The Piper Cub is all you need from an aeroplane, anything else is excessive.
>>566023794Agreed. It could use twenty or so more horsepower though
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AHCfZTRGiI
>>566024080*teleports behind you*
>>566024276I presume there's no real need for a supersonic trainer if they're replacing the T-38 with it?
>>566024354>Jet engine>Fabric-covered taildraggerNow that looks exciting.
>>566024665If it stays purely as a trainer then it's not that useful, trainers nowadays need to teach SA and SYS management more than flying, and flying supersonic is not something that has to be taught. Aside from the fact that it uses the F-18 engine so you already have part commonality and economy of scale there are no real benefits. If you're already aiming for an armed variant of your trainer for future sales pitches then it's a different story and it can really help, especially with poorer nations that can't afford both an advanced trainer and a real fighter. IMHO in the future armed trainers are going to play a key role in anti drone operations when paired with APWKSII etc, due to their lower operational costs compared to frontline fighters, so it becomes a difference in philosophy between wanting a supersonic afterburning trainer for faster intercepts, or the safety from redundancy with 2 engines in the case of the M-346.
>>566008773>muh russian state secretsBelieve it or not, every ruble you spend in the sim goes to supporting the creation of even more russian state secrets
>>566026118You should get a job at Leonardo in the sales department, have you considering applying? Unironically.
>>566008773>Are you the "F-35 is open source!" meltdown schizo?No, BUT this is not the first time you have accused me of being him. Perhaps you are the schizo one here.
