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The Nightmare is ongoing...
>>565733842

NEW CODE: CZN0418ARISE - 1000 Crystals
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>S3 Patch notes
https://page.onstove.com/chaoszeronightmare/en/view/13168282

>HEIDEMARIE (NEW) Character PV
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>Galactic News Network
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>Current Featured Banner
[Diana] Passion - Hunter | Rate Up Period: 04/08/2026 - 05/05/2026
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>Useful Links and Resources
New players guide: https://renoa-love.org/
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https://wiki.e7bot.top/#/czn/combatant

>Why didn't my Save Data save properly?
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>Deckbuilders
https://czn-save-cal.web.app/
https://wiki.e7bot.top/#/czn/deck-builder
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>>565820402
>New code DO NOT REDEEM

MAYTHE4THCZN
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Reposting in the new thread

>>565820037
Right now I only have Veronica and HDMI as 5*s, I'm waiting for the final free roll to see who I get and use my selector on Tiph I guess (I am at 60/60)
I DO have 140 rolls for standard banner right now so I was thinking of using all of that to also get to 300 and picking another character, would that be an alright investment? And if so, who should I get there?
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>>565820432
If you're this new, you should reroll for better.
This is a good time to reroll, and just having HDMI plus 2 5 stars is the bare minimum you could have.
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>>565820570
Seems like a fine plan, get the HDMI partner
>>565820583
???
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Hard
Dicking
Mayor
Inside
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Our mayor is not like that
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>>565820908
>>565820876
yes she is
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Either of these worth spending RNG divine orbs on or keep going for better saves if I'm hunting for divine decks?
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>>565820876
DO NOT RAPE THE MAYOR!
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>>565820984
First one is poop, second one can be made into a god dick yes
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How did your guys anniversary rolls go? Did you get what you wanted?
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Here's a wholesome pic for a change
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Rei 3D model
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>>565820998
I only give her my sword with consent.
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Someone remind me, can I "draw" a card that's been discarded (but not used, so not in used pile) this turn?
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So after 70 rolls all I got was another Narja, and 7 4 star characters
pretty much what I expected
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>forgot about the free normal banner rolls
>60 free rolls
>get e2 Yuki
I'm not complaining
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>>565821151
>Tiph e3 from the 70 rolls
>+Orlea ,selector
>+Khalipe, 200 rolls thingy
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I have yet to roll my 10*20 banner, I have all the standards already who's the character with the best egos to aim for?
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obscene body
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POV: atashi no kimochi
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>>565821417
Magna
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>>565821151
I got Tiph from free rolls and it was the highlight of my anniversary, that alone made everything worth it.
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>>565821184
Now make her pregnant
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>>565821417
>who's the character with the best egos to aim for?
Tiph has really good egos up to like E3 and she's a unit people use a lot
Nine E1 lets you choose target with Fighting Spirit if you use her a lot but doesn't have good dupes past E2
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>>565821634
Hello? Based department?
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>>565821505
begging for a threesome
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Pissing inside Bundamarie's cleavage.
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>>565821730
from the base pool...

>>565821540
Isn't she trash?
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was a comfy climb until i run into a boss that wants you to spam his ass with attacks
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>>565821952
is that the "please use sereniel" boss from rift
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>Beryl casually brings two draw 3s for 0 cost as 4th party member
This midget's value keeps going up.
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>>565820706
>???
???
HDMI + 2 5 stars is literally the bare minimum you get as a new player. You can reroll for better.
This is the best time to reroll.
>>565820984
I don't think its' worth because your dupes don't get the divine.
You still want to make a deck that's 1-3 tokens off from being godly
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>>565821952
Some of these bosses are beyond retarded.
>insect bitch that will take pitiful damage unless you destroy her 3 minions first
>said minions have a lot of HP, hit hard as fuck and have a taunt
>she respawn the 3 of them with full HP every 2 turns or so
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List of stuff to do

>Work on better Heide Fragments
>Build Hugo
>Build Selena
>Build Nia
>Build Rei
>Build Cassius

What should I do first? Thoughts? Explain those thoughts too, the 'why' of things is pretty important.
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>>565822403
ask chatGPT
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now what
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Bros is rita fun?
Considering building her since I don't have any single hit nuke character for colossus besides her, plus she looks cool
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do not open this in public
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Anyone knows which kind of progression this is? Does it add 202 + 50 + 50 per stack or does it increase with previous gains, like would the second stack be 404 x2 and 100 x2
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Two Veronicas on the 70 free draws, she loves me so much.
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>>565821926
>Isn't she trash?
Kinda, yeah. I was joking
Chose you are waifu
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>>565822947
Ends with 605 damage, I don't get your questions
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Choose one for me
(in terms of utility, not coom)
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>>565823329
By 100% =/= +100% speedreader kun
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>>565822791
Do you have her E1?
If you don't she's functional.
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>>565823412
Marin is pure sexo and deserved to be playable
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>>565822791
She hits hard every other turn
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>>565823526
>this meme again
You were debunked last thread doomjeet
Rita blasts.
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>>565823752
the fact that you replied to it means he won
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>>565823752
>debunked
????
Are you mentally unwell?
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>>565823412
Do you have nine? then her partner obviously
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>>565823412
>sexo: Scarlet or Alcea
>utility: If you like playing Rin or Mei Lin get Scarlet, else Alcea if you play Nine
>veronica's partner is a rosaria sidegrade and Haru's is good but only works with her, are you a Harufag?
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>>565823886
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>>565822303
same, it ruined my run, same with knight and cleric duo where they just hit HARD, meanwhile blue pot's witch was easier because aoe attacks hit all ghouls
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>>565823412
I cant decide, I use veronica a lot so I'm tempted to go Marin. Renoa's partner looks pretty decent tho and she's also picrel.
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>>565824083
Yeah I want this bitch to humiliate me and then I have sex with her and impregnate her.
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>>565824045
>turns your 6 to an 8
>ruins your entire kit
Sasuga czn devs.
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>>565822303
>>565824081
Should have planned your build around it noobs
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>>565823412
the redhead is the most flexible striker partner I think, she works with like 4 different characters
Nine's partner is good for both offense and defense (shield)
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>>565822791
I find her basic attack build to. E fun, especially if you could.bo it with Rei for her basic attack buffs.
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>>565824008
I like using Haru but I'm confused about Asteria's kit
Lets suppose I use Haru with Narja, Narja makes my Anchor Shots cost Zero
Does the effect apply to cards with the ORIGINAL 2 cost or it'll stop working on anchor shots as I reduce the cost?
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>>565821151
>claimed the wrong reroll save data
>missed a day of log ins so I need to wait until tuesday for the last free ten roll
all I got was E3 Hugo and E1 Kaliphe out of it so far. Maybe I'll get blessed with a Nine so I don't use my selector yet, but weirdly enough I don't really mind that I fucked up and still don't have Renoa out of the initial standard spooks.
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>>565824532
Jesus gro get your shit together your CZN life is a mess
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Best dogwalker for chaos? Somewhere I read veronica is great for copy events as she has most amount of upgrade cards and they cannot be copied thus not diluting the card pool. Any other example of characters like her? I just want to focus on building one perfect character at a time
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>>565824504
i think it stops working based on stuff I've seen from this game lol
if you reduce a card's cost to 0, that card effectively become categorized as a "zero cost card), since skills with that trigger with zero cost cards will work with it
so yeah Haru's shilled partner is pretty much useless on her if you build her with Narja
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>>565824504
Yeah true I doubt anyone but whales own her too, if it's current cost then it's a brick partner
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>>565824504
It'll stop working, and the 4pc judgement set also doesn't work.
There is no such thing as "original cost", the only thing they care about is current cost.

So if you make a cost 1 into a cost 2 it'll work.
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>>565822048
>>565822303
I mean look at this shit, i swear to god i knew this nigger boss was coming since floor 1, this shit is 100% coded to spawn a 3rd boss that counters ur team
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>>565824963
It really does feel that way honestly
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>>565824786
>I read veronica is great for copy events as she has most amount of upgrade cards and they cannot be copied thus not diluting the card pool.
Hasn't been a thing since S1, you get selected dupes down for a combatant of your choice
Nine is the best dogwalker using Ironclad or Massacre Hew, or she WAS since E2 HDMI literally does obscene amounts of damage.
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>>565824696
I believe that it's like an integer overflow, maybe I'll get some good luck after my constant fuck ups
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>>565824906
>>565824932
Thats fucking gay
I guess I'm getting the Scarlet, seems like she has a flexible kit
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>>565822403
Nia works very well with Marie and cycling through your deck in general
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>>565824504
Just play Haru with Khalipe and it will work
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>>565824963
Bro your Heidemarie straight up counters his mechanic
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>>565825228
You can't do 100K damage / turn that way though
Haru-Narja with cost reduction is the only way to make Haru deal big dick damage
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>>565825424
Then play her with Tiph using the 9 cost reroll card
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>700% shield
Would you take this?
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Wow did they neuter this faggot?
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>>565825548
forgot pic
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>>565825607
This is like the antithesis to this thread
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What's the rate of standard pulls we get per a month. I've been getting all dps so far and I feel like I should wait until I at least get 1 5* support before using my selector and 200 banner pick.
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>>565825635
nah
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>>565825727
Both Rita and Magna are strong, you guys are just bad
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>>565825786
Around 10-20 per 3 week patch.
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>>565825786
>Cassius
>Nia
>Rei
>Mika
All tier 0 support.
The only good 5* support is Tiph.
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Got all encounters with Tiph so I quickly got her to affinity level 10 so I can enjoy her cuteness in my lobby :D
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What the fuck
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>>565825635
only if I was running a vanguard`
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>>565825974
>The only good 5* support is Tiph.
what about Orlea? I've seen people do crazy stuff with her
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>>565826201
Only good for extremely specific comps, she's very niche. For those comps she's by far the best support though, because its all about setting up some absurd 1 shot hits.
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>>565824504
you lose that passive but +25% does fucking nothing for haru anyways so it doesnt actually matter
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>tiph
>good
The only times I've seen people use tiph is for meme dps build.

Otherwise, people use Narja.
No one is going to use some RNG shitter as their support.
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will we get a survey for the new stuff they added?
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>>565826201
Orlea and Narja are good too yes but Mika is better than them in general.
Cassius and Nia aber currently better since discard is the FOTM.
Rei is always good
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What memory fragments does nine want?
Beast yearning and tetra defense? Does she want bonus defense over attack? Im guessing she still wants crit.
Would it be better build her deck in the season 2 chaos?
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This banner is bait if you've already gotten one 5* in it, right?
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>>565826405
tiphera is a second worse orlea if you're playing Nine, that's all she's good for, the pedophiles here have been drinking their own kool aid and are just confused.
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tiphera carries this game
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>>565826531
>Beast yearning and tetra defense?
Yes
>Does she want bonus defense over attack?
Yes
>Does she want bonus defense over attack?
Yes
>Does she want bonus defense over attack?
No
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>>565826550
YES I FELL FOR IT SO HARD FUCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
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>>565825974
Isnt Veronica a support?
Been holding on to this in case I would have gotten 1 out of the 3.
Now I'm considering holding on until my next standard 5*
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-@?#$ is the GOAT
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>>565826598
Whoops I fucked up replace the two last greentext with your other questions
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>>565826598
>Does she want bonus defense over attack?
>Yes
>>Does she want bonus defense over attack?
>Yes
>>Does she want bonus defense over attack?
>No
S-so which is it?
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>>565826405
>>565826580
Samefag
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>>565826736
Veronica is the absolute best card draw character in the game. She's also really good for Chaos runs since she just shits out free damage
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>>565826580
Pretty much.
All she's known for now is as a dps fucking build.
She's failed entirely when it comes to being an actual fucking support.

Definitely another disappointing character.
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>>565826846
>>565826837
Okay, thank you.
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>>565826736
Veronica is a schizophrenic rat hamster super villain.
She cannot heal or shield in a meaningful way
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>>565826405
>RNG
if only there was an epiphany to select the buff you want
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>>565826595
>Lv 80 Hardcore Risk 30
Orleafags and Narjafags would never
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I got scammed.... the +1 Lux Engraving on the boots doesn't affect the buff from Persona Card for some reason.
But whatever, after spending 24k Sortie currencies (24 Divine rerolls), I'm halfway done with Tiph's deck. Two more cards to go.
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>>565826736
Veronica can shit out cards and deal damage with her ballista cards, but she is still a Ranger class
no shields
no healing
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>>565827035
Put the panties back on it's better with them on
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How bricked am I if I don't roll Heidemarie because she's fucking ugly as shit?
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Hmm I think I will climb the tower with a Magna team.
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Is tiphera THAT good
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>>565827118
you can absolutely build her for shields, but nobody does for obvious reasons.
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>>565827263
nyes
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>>565827053
I don't want to be a party pooper but...
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>>565827263
we have sortie, you can see yourself how mediocre she is.
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>>565827243
Not much.
You can get max rewards without shilled characters and next season the meta will change like it always did.
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>>565827419
see >>565826595
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My Tiph carried Yuki yesterday
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>>565827324
You can go on anon...
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>tfw no nine
>tfw no tiphera
>tfw no diana
>tfw no luke, hugo, renoa, magna
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>retarded tranny makes some ragebait shitpost
>4 instant replies
ah, I see why he stuck to this place but left the other generals
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>>565827597
not nine doing the carrying?
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>>565827656
damn that's a lot of shit you're missing bro
before you ever think about putting money into that acc consider buying a rerolled one that has every character
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>>565827612
Where is your 4th Seed?
That Form conversion pipi? For what reason? Reorganize seems unnecessary
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>>565827656
Did you take E4 luke with your selector or something?
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I am surrounded by SEA
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>>565827958
Hope you can swim...
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>>565827035
Uoh T u T
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Who is better for HDMI, then, Narja or Tiph?
Be honest.
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>>565828141
Tiph
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>>565827597
holy SHIT i'm glad i'm a pedophile
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>>565827864
Can't fit in the 4th seed with Persona card so I took Reorganize for better 1st turn. The 1AP divine on Quantum seed and that shitty divine on Form Convergence is WIP.
All divine epi in final deck should be "Treated as a Common Card".
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>>565828141
Nia
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>>565828141
Nia
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How do I know when a damage amplifier is additive or multiplicative in this game?
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>>565828141
tiphera is more consistent in my experience but both work
0 cost Harmonization is busted
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>>565828141
Rei
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Narja doesn't lean forward and flashes me her panties and thus she is inferior
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>>565825170
can't go wrong with this
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>>565821634
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I want to build my brand new Nine, what kind of build does she want and should I pick her partner or someone else with the free selector? I have every character except for Yuki, Rita, and the two new ones.
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>>565828141
Tiph, since Narja's reduction might hit a quietus card. You wouldn't run either over cassius/nia though, and extra attack supports like Hugo/Selena are better than a 2nd support.
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>>565828536
Holy shit literally everyone is melons
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>>565828554
some of you guys are so fucked in the head
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>>565828141
damn you're really trash at this game bro
Narja's kit works well with multi-hitters Tiphera's a 1shot supporter
look up their kits bro like seriously
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>>565828605
How do you build Hugo/Selena for HDMI though? And which one is better out of the two? Do you run both Selena and Hugo or is it like HDMI/Subdps/Support?
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>>565828554
based
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>>565828265
>additive
+40%
>multiplicative
by 40% or x40%
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>>565828931
not both, either or
AFAIK Hugo's floor is better than Selena's
But a fully maxed selena with a god deck beats Hugo
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If you don't have more than 3 security codes, you can't join The Guild.
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I have not once looked up memory fragment farming and I think I'm paying for it
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>>565828796
>Pomf! What are we going to do on the bed, captain? Eat some snacks? I must warn you in advance that I'm quite the muncher even if I say it so myself!
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>>565829084
>But a fully maxed selena with a god deck beats Hugo
What is a god deck Selena then?
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I am space pirates
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>>565829157
>>565828796
God I love retarded genki girls
she is so getting pregnant
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>>565829157
>leave for one minute
>bed is covered with cookie crumbs
At least its not as bad as haru.
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I don't have Luke or Kayron, which one should I choose from the free roll?
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What's the definitive Rin d*ck? I was thinking four copies of the Move card but it only takes one of each instead of all cards that are similarly named.
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Okay here's a returner question
What deck should I build for Sereniel? Before taking a break from the game I left her with the most garbage and nonsensical deck possible but I want to take the time to actually put an usable deck on her for non-seasonal content. So what would be the best deck I could make for her right now?
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>>565829267
Haru would probably eat the bed
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AKIRAMENAIDE KUDASAI
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>>565828215
Yeah you are right good deck.
The only alternative could be no epi on Form and no Reorg and add one normal Seed.
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>>565829165
3 upgrade drone bombs copies
Yeah you're supposed to split them
Get +draw or common card divines if you can
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>>565829451
This but 4 lasers, maybe a persona card
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>>565829515
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>>565829451
>>565829681
Also my laser sucks get the one that goes to hand at turn start AND ravege
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>>565829451
Basically this, you can delete Cobalt light too. Divine on Lasers are nice.
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>>565828583
I know there's someone here that knows the answer to this.
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>>565829868
>>565829681
Alright I'll go for that, thanks.
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>>565830402
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-KkQUFrjD_2Un3zMDmypCwZFVF5VmowswqYdLt9MOw8/htmlview?gid=1103247606&pru=AAABnhilyk8*5DOd-5oH2VrfUjW8UGd0DA#gid=1103247606
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>>565828583
>>565830402
Nine decks are super easy, Hew and a few other cards. This was GR #2.
Yes her partner is extremely good but so is every signature partner now, pick the partner for your favourite damage dealer.
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>>565829603
whats resonance on persona card supposed to do
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>>565830602
Huh no fighting spirit?? Also what is the statline on Nine supposed to look like in terms of memory fragments?
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>>565830732
Uh yeah wasn't mine, in general you want one or multiple fighting spirits
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>>565829361
You want four copies of move card either way since those two are the best cards.
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>>565830732

see >>565826531
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>>565830602
>Yes her partner is extremely good
doesnt alsea lose to wilhemina if no dupes?
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>>565830543
Thanks.
>>565830602
>pick the partner for your favourite damage dealer.
I don't use her for damage but is Tiph's partner a good choice?
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>as a returner
>as a returner
Holy shit, so many new shitters, so many returnfags.

Tell me a single gacha that has managed to make all the quitters come crawling back like the filthy little piglets they are.
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>>565830950
Not since the 5* buff.
All Sigs are now BIS.
>>565830974
>I don't use her for damage but is Tiph's partner a good choice?
Yes, it's by far the best partner for her
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>>565831039
hahahaHAHAHAHA
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>>565831039
I quit every off season. I don't have narja or Diana. Diana is on banner but lol not gonna get her.
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>>565830950
that was before 5* got buffed
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I just realized all of the season 1 girls have beauty marks on their face
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>>565831039
bro who is a piglet the one that plays inconsistently or the daily slop consumer
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Oh thats weird.
You can already get diana on the standard banner despite her being on her own banner still.
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>>565831171
>Alcea E0 3% better than Wilhelmina E4
wow..... must pull.....
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>>565831364
The one crawling in the mud seeking to reenter the gacha they've ditched.

Oink for me you little piggy.
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>>565831171
>>565831245
>Prydwen
Why would you link those idiots
And from what I saw, Alsea loses to Wilhemina if she has Vuln up at best or is on par with buffed Alsea at worst. Seems like a total waste of rolls to go for her when you could get a Partner that actually does stuff F2P partners can't like Tiana or Sylvia
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>>565831382
>Does she lose
>no
>oh wow only a win by 3% lol...
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>>565831543
The info from sproots nightmare is from before the buff I believe
Pryden is up to date.
Find a better source then.
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>>565831545
3% is pretty mediocre though. You're telling people to spend 100+ rolls or 300 shop currency on a partner because a site notorious for utterly retarded tierlist said she's 3% better than the F2P alternative.
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>>565829084
No, Selena only beats Hugo against passion weak enemies. Unless you have E6 hdmi for universal weakness on swords, but even then Hugo has such a higher base multiplier setup that even with Selena constantly proccing she can't outdamage hugo without the extra bonus damage from hitting weakness on her own attacks.

Remember, Hugo's baseline is equivalent to 300% extra attack damage per sword procced (50 base, 150% 5 stacks, and 50% multiplicative from upgrade). Plus Hugo has better base stats + potentials + partner from being a 5 star.

Selena really suffers from not being able to take advantage of the bonus levels on cards 4 stars get over 5 stars, because levels don't influence the coordinated attack damage.
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>>565831724
I said this:
>Yes her partner is extremely good but so is every signature partner now, pick the partner for your favourite damage dealer.
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>>565831960
so you dont actually know anything, but needed to write something "helpful".
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>my renoa get the card that discards 2 cards and increase next bullet damage by 40% for every 1 cost.
>Idea
>Run her with rita, keep stacking the costs of rita cards way past 8-9
>Discard them using Renoa
>9999 dmg
This is stupid, and only affects the first bullet used... wish it affected all. Why do all previous units get power crept every time?
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>>565831171
Ok, thanks.
I guess I can make do with Wilhelmina and get Tiph's partner then.
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>>565832095
Stop playing retarded
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Second Method or the purple gun on HDMI?
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>>565831960
3% still isn't "Extremely good"
It's mediocre as fuck when the gap between Sylvia or Peko and 2nd best is actually decently large
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My account remains unwormed
I will never pull the gay furry.
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>>565832228
Depends on your sword rain
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>>565832298
5 swords from graveyard
I imagine its purple gun? the swords are not extra attacks if used that way right? thanks
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>>565832298
The exact other way around, ready the sword rain again
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>>565832269
it's only a matter of time this furry penetrates your boy pussy
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>>565832430
meant for >>565832391
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>>565832490
oh woops
thanks
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Confirmed the first roll from the reroll banner by mistake. Holy shit I'm so fucking dumb.
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>>565832391
Always purple gun. Always.
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>>565832591
bricked
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>>565832261
I dont think 3% is even accurate but nobody who plays this game does math or thinks so we'll never know the real number.
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>>565832591
Its essentially just a standard selector bwo. Most of the egos for standards are not that game changing anyhow.
As long as you're not missing someone important like veronica or khalipe it doesnt matter.
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>>565832591
cute
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>>565832858
I'm missing Veronica, Khalipe and Orlea. Even Magna would've been fine, but got Kayron instead...
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Hugo is cool
how is he?
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>>565833435
furry
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we don't like furries around here
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>>565833435
Best in Slot for Heide
Yes, she got knotted...
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>>565833435
everyone loves him and is playing HDMI x Hugo even though its not even that good
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>>565833764
Veronica is better and isnt furshit

>>565833791
Because furries always try to force their husband everywhere for some reason
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>>565833921
Veronica can't do damage bro
Heide is not dependent on draws like other characters
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>>565831714
>up to date
ok explain how Bria E0 is better than Bria E4
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>>565834114
DELETE THIS

My ecelebs are never ever wrong and always have the best data!!! Name ONE time Prydwen has ever been wrong!!!!one11
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Going for the nuke build, I have 3 out of 4 Effulgent Expansions already.
Is there a world where taking the free draw is better than more fuel for the nuke?
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Whats the best Hugo build for supporting heide?
I got spooked by him 3 times might as well get knotted
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>>565834380
Nah, the graveyard needs more swords
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>>565834206
making fun of prydwen is fun but nobody else is even trying to mathematically compare partners, your options are prydwen calcs, vibes, or doing the math yourself (which nobody seems capable of doing)
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Which to get?
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>>565834598
Prydwen isn't capable of doing so either
It's the most retarded, headache inducing garbage you've ever seen with arbitrary restrictions or conditions and numbers coming out of nowhere

You'd unironically be better off asking your AI assistant of choice and end up with similar results than relying on Prydwen for any game they cover.
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>it's popular i have to hate it
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>>565833435
LIGHTNING DINGO
LIGHTNING DINGO
LIGHTNING DINGO
LIGHTNING DINGO
LIGHTNING DINGO
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People who believe Prydwen are the same kind of retards that see AI slop videos online and think they're real things that happened
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>>565834693
Anyone?
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Day 1 player here and just found out this had some rewards left lol
Apparently doing the base Chaos in Chaos Zero does not count for those so I had a bunch of leftover rewards at max difficulty

just posting this in case someone is retarded as me
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>>565835248
This literally happened
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GxqbAvbiaMk
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how do I clear floor 150 easiest cheesiest method
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>>565834693
I personally like the left one with a -1 cost Divine, up to you
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>>565834693
1 feels like it's geared towards Thread of Light so it can do big damage. 2 helps you make non-Linked Quietus cards into Linked so you can discard them more easily. 3 if you're running Diana with her I guess for maximum Quietus link discarding.
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>>565835489
This is true, I was there.
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>>565835207
He doesn't do that anymore

With HDMI it's "IKE, IKE, IKE, IKE, IKE, RAIT- Humph, Humph, Haaahh, Humph, Haaahh!!!", no dingos anymore...
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Partner (weapon) comparison is rather bothersome in this game because people decks and gears are different. For example, if your have fucktons of additive damage from teammates already, getting +30% more on partner isn't going to do much.
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>>565835683
Now now anon, do not try to be the reasonable one
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>>565835683
generally speaking

multhit -> additive
single nuke -> multiplicative
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>>565835683
>if your have fucktons of additive damage from teammates already,
No one does after the Cassius nerf.
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Has anyone started Sortie with Nine? I imagine it is a complete waste? She only has one Hew and Epis on it are a waste.
She also does not want a lot of cards.
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>>565835683
You should never care about damage when rolling a partner.
What you want is utility, the best partners are those that provide utility to your unit.

Like HMs partner that enables you to link 2 cards, that is a huge fucking boost in utility and helps out a fuckton.

Same with Sophia that lets you draw a card AND discards 2 cards, all things that help you a ton in creating a consistent deck.
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On the topic of additve damage, how exactly does this work or how do I activate it? Is this 70% free damage if someone else increases the enemies action count or does it HAVE to be the unit with these items equipped to raise it?
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>>565835676
I play in Korean so that's all he keeps saying.
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Which partner is better for her character between nine's and tiphera's?
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>>565835854
A single persona card for Controller this season could give you +150% additive damage to the entire team for one turn.
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>>565836146
We just had a meltdown over that topic
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>>565836146
Tiphera
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>>565836146
Prydwen said Nine's partner is 3% better so that makes her insanely extremely good and a MUST have since my ecelebs are never wrong
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Has any unit or partner recieved actually good buffs? Yuki has gotten two buffs and is still shit while partners recieved buffs and are still losing to F2P alternatives
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Which two characters could I get from the selectors that will help me clear out any Chaos so I can focus on building third character decks?
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>>565836594
>partners recieved buffs and are still losing to F2P alternatives
Factually wrong
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>>565835596
>>565835640
What about this?
Is middle best?
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>>565836623
Nine is a great carry for a 2nd team assuming your first team is HDMI but damage dealers cycle out a lot faster and her season is already over so she already peaked
Tiphera is a meta support and more supports are never ever bad but there's already very good F2P supports and the next banner character will be a support character designed to support HDMI

Basically pick your poison here
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>>565836146
What do their partners even do?
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Do we have leaks or any info for season 4?
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>>565836594
haru got buffs that made her good in save data, the healer buffs have been very good for nia and rei in chaos/sortie, magna's buffs made her good in sortie
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>>565836797
Left feels pointless as the Sword Rain epi that activates 5 blades in the graveyard is just better. I have not tried using middle because Release costs 0 and isn't a finale card but at the same time, I don't know what kind of damage it's capable of. I would personally go right.
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>>565836797
That middle card is very specific, and I haven't seen anyone play around with it yet
Truthfully I wouldn't pick any of those epiphanies
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Hell yeah 5 of these in 70 pulls
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Mei Lin is so fucking bad
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>>565827656
Seconding the other anon that you should just buy a reroll account. You can get a better account for $15.
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I don't care if Heidemarie is the strongest, there's no way I'm missing out on Adelheid.
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Any recommendations for my 200 and selector? I'm leaning towards not collecting Mei and Rita but I'm still debating it.
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>>565836146
Tiphera's.
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>>565837479
I'd fill up the roaster with whatever you do not have
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>>565836980
See picture

Alsea is better than Wilhemina if your team has no sources of Vuln
Wilhemina is better than Alsea if your team has a source of Vuln
Tiana is the best partner for Tiph by a pretty large margin because Alyssa/Arwen kinda shitty but Nyx can be better than both if you buy the BP for her
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>>565837479
mei lin or hugo
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>>565837450
sis your swipe?
>>565836146
Tiph's because the other support partner options are bad for non-discard.
>>565837479
Tiph copy for selector. All her copies are good.
Hugo E1 to work toward his E3 or Khalipe E1 to work toward her E2. Khalipe's is super underated.
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>>565837736
you are just going off of vibes. vuln does not matter wilhelmina giving +15% additive to Nine means nothing. you are dumber than prydwen.
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Got an interesting neutral epi on effulgent. Not having link kinda sucks, but its a bit offset by the persona card and makes her a bit more Nia reliant. Draw + AP on a quietus card seems good though, and effulgent doesn't lose too much from neutral epiphany.

Items aren't BIS but decent enough, main big thing is 2 copies of the +1% ally attack damage per card exhausted from the graveyard, does it stack to max 50% or is it just reaching the 25% cap faster?

Either way pretty happy for a sweep chaos deck that I didn't have to spend items on. Would changing hero to all to the draw 1 -> apply link to all quietus be worthwhile you think? Or is the extra draw too valuable?
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>>565836879
2nd team?
I just want a team that makes Chaos explorations easier so I can build better decks for each character.
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Feels like there's a really strong bias in this thread
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>>565837336
Sorry, bro, but Mei Lin just isn't Core material.
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>>565822059
is she just the best 4th member? this shit is insane
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>>565838191
HDMI + Nia + X
HDMI + Mika + X
HDMI + Tiph + X
Sereniel + Mika + X
Sereniel + Tiph + X
Nine + Mika + X
Nine + Tiph + X
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>>565838325
I really need to build her at some point. She's one of my actual favorite characters but I suck at this game.
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>>565838287
Yeah she needs too many very specific cards to pop off, unplayable in Sortie
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>>565838649
>>565837336
Still can't believe prydwen puts her at T0.5 in terms of chaos and by extension sortie.

Mei Lin fucking SUCKS without a saved deck.
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>>565838636
Sis just do the story things and you get a fuck ton of level up materials
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>>565839052
I am the baby btw
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>>565826201
Orlea is more of offensive precise support. Makes someone like Nine or Rita deal bullshit high damage.
Narja helps more of high cost or card spammers characters that need more bulk.
Mika is better all around
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>>565826201
Orlea is the single hit nuke girlfriend

Even now the best comp is HDMI, Tiph and Orlea because HDMI's nuke build is the strongest lol
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>>565839804
I don't know if her single hit nuke build is overtuned
or if the devs are just really neglecting buffs for multi-hit. It's pretty much just Morale and things that affect big nuke even better.
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>>565839698
>Mika is WORSE* all around
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>>565837083
We got a sneak peek of the Pope so the current bet is the church dudes in Season 4
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I want to return to the game but I actually don't like Heide's design.
Rin is still my favorite. is she good?
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>>565840359
No one knows because everyone is occupied with Heide, but Rin got gigabuffed
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>>565840120
shut the fuck up already you retarded tranny
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>>565840359
Rin got the biggest buff of anyone by far.
But I don't know if she's "good" with how high of a standard serenial, nine, tiph, heidemarie have set.
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>>565829361
Four copies of the both blade arts destruction card preferably with the draw divine, and you want to go back to lab0 with supports Rei/Orlea and get the forbidden card which perma reduces the cost of a card by 1, and use it on blade dance/annihilation.
Run the chaos on Rin which gets the 40% damage amount to 0 cost orb (city of mist or lab0) since her entire damage kit is now 0 cost.
You can sub Orlea out for Narja if you dupe her skill card which gives voracity at 0 cost with a draw divine. For Rei use the void damage upgrade card or 1 cost or lower, and use the perma 50% dmg upgrade card on blade dance.
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Holy shit the
>draw 3 cards and link them
+
>Play all linked cards without discarding them
is actually insane if you have the AP.
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>>565835579
dominion x2 on supports and retain beryl
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newcuteing around sortie i know i did the broken duo but i think it's all on KHALIPE and i owe her tons of unlimited sex now im really fucked
but she's really pleasant to play with her celestial
magna was there because she wanted to tag along
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>>565840973
Imagine when they add more discard characters

I feel like this game is going to be a Yugioh-like in terms of powercreep. one day Owen is OP merely because doubling a future Attack card will be broken
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Dude this sortie run was easy as fuck I come into it full hp no stress I was one shotting everything else
Then I get to this boss and ??? I have no AP it's always removing 1-2 and it does so much damage and takes none
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Is this the kind of d*ck hugo wants to knot heide?
should I spend a dupe mat to make his d*ck more potent?
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>>565838191
The best characters for Chaos are Nine and HDMI
Sereniel struggles in some chaos due to how often she attacks so red chaos punishes her for pushing their action count over, plus she kind of feels weak now compared to HDMI unless she's E2 since she needs dupes.
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>>565840475
Never reply to me again Mika faggot

Mika is SHIT and you are a STUPID BITCH
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>>565841061
>i think it's all on KHALIPE and i owe her tons of unlimited sex
Exactly how I felt after choosing her in sortie
This sexy bear keeps blocking all damage and killing the annoying non-boss enemies I kinda regret not choosing her for the standard banner
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>>565841418
>3 upgrade and not 4
bricked
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>>565841061
Khalipe is top 3 launch characters still for me. Really comfy getting free shielding and damage from playing others 2+ cost cards.
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>>565838636
Her retain build still does 30-50k damage per turn if you run last season's chaos for the spores
As a support she is still top tier too, just build her and you won't regret it, you'll annihilate Judas weekly and it's always cathartic to see.
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>>565839698
This isn't s1 anymore retard where nobody else healed for shit in chaos
Mika is old news
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>>565841418
looks good to me, I dunno how relevant that morale is though, might be better to look for another -AP divine
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>Khalipe is top 3 launch characters still for me.

It's no surprise to me why you retarded bitches cry about tower 150 and can't clear it.

Do you even play the game or are you a retarded shitposting tourist? I think it's clear for everyone to see who the real players are.

It's like I'm reading that Tressa is better than Hugo.

Khalipe is DOGSHIT, anyone saying she isn't is a STUPID BITCH.
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>>565841476
>>565841567
i took tiph with the selector and veronica but i kinda regret because i would've be spamming her ass
at least thankfully i got here again early on with rita
she really block like a fucking gorilla and her animations are cool as hell, i'll pray to get spooked by her
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>>565842162
I didn't say for Tower, retard.
But I did clear the previous tower with Khalipe :)
>>565842165
You'll get her eventually. They are more generous with the launch characters.
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>see anime screenshot attached to a retarded post
>click hide post
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>>565842165
theres no real reason to use khalipe when you could be playing ironclad nine instead
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>khalipe is dogshit
I'm convinced these people don't even play this game
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>>565842307
One day the mods will actually ban him for avatarfagging
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>>565842586
Most shitposters in every general don't actually play
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Does event chaos replace farming passion characters in blue pot?
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I got Khalipe SEVEN times by now as F2P.

She is as useful as DOGSHIT. Sure, you can use her if you feel like a stupid bitch but that doesn't make her useful.

You're better off using someone like Cassius who does everything she does but better.

Learn to play the game and call yourself a STUPID BITCH.
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>>565842563
Khalipe gives you ironclad nine shielding at 0 cost.
You just have 4 vulture ejection that applies 2 vuln each or draws a card which it can do now in the deck and the rest removed.
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I heard that there's a selector. where's it
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>>565842563
i want to fuck khalipe when im not fucking nine
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>>565842927
One from loggin bonus, one from the special rescue event you can find by scrolling down the rescue banners
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>>565842724
Its sad what these people do for the sake of attention.
Funny enough these threads were extremely comfy before the half anniversary, the moment it arrived low quality shitposters started flooding this place and now look at it.

Wish they'd actually play the game instead of just shitpost all day.
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I still say Haru is worst 5*.
The only way to make her useful is by having divine ephiphanies, otherwise she simply doesn't function at all.

She absolutely needs ap ephiphanies and she needs draw ephiphanies.
Way too needy of a character, when you have shit like Nine who doesn't need any sort of draw whatsoever because her card always stays on her.
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>$10k Content Creator Sortie tournament
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>>565843506
>bunch of people saying WG
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I regret rolling for Rita.

She is worse than Khalipe even.
What I can't understand is why so many players skipped Narja.

Are they shitposters?
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what is the Haide's team?
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>>565844269
Depends on the build

HDMI Cassius Hugo
HDMI Cassius Selena
HDMI Tiph Orlea
HDMI Rei Nia
HDMI Diana Nia
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>>565844269
hdmi + selena + hugo
hdmi + tiph + orlea
hdmi + tiph + rei
hdmi + chizuru + forgot the other I think tiph
hdmi + nia + cassius
hdmi + nia + diana
hdmi solo
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>>565842638
This thread would actually be the best place in /vg/ if they actually got rid of that creature
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>>565844467
>>565844509
which one is the comfiest to play?
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>>565844714
I personally like the HDMI + Hugo + Nia
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>>565844714
the hugo selena since you just play their upgrades then it's all Heidemarie cards.
The strongest is the tiph big nuke though but they all do 100k+
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>>565844714
>>565844773
Forgot to mention, that team is specifically her use swords from Graveyard build
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You guys think it's acceptable for new characters to powercreep old ones this hard? The numbers from heide are insane, Renoa and Nine arent ever reaching this...
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>>565845153
When they are one limited character every 6 months, yes absolutely.
It's fine to have a near must-pull that you know is once every 6 months.
As long as they balance content for the many other characters, it's a good thing because new players can come in, or returning players, and get this one character to carry them.
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>>565845153
every single gacha does this
and it only takes 1 new busted support to bring those "powercreeped" characters back into the spotlight
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>>565845153
well, that's just how it is for dps in any gacha. consider investing more in supports
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>>565845153
Newkiddo.
Where were you when Mei lin was the top meta.
Where were you when Thressa was the meta
Where were you when sereniel was the meta
When nine was the meta...etc
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>>565845153
Old characters SUCKED ASS
S1 was fucking painful because everyone was coping and desperate for power but it was hard to find any

I'm glad that there's actually good characters now, I don't want to go back to the dark times of Tressa and Meilin.
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>>565845153
That’s like every card game ever. It’s weirder how Diana’s addition actually shot Renoa’s usefulness up to bullshit levels rather than Heidemarie, a seasonal unit being super good
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Cobalt light should not cost 3 AP
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>>565845740
>That’s like every card game ever.
Day 1 yugioh vs modern yugioh comparisons are the funniest shit ever to me
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>>565845740
Yeah I like using Renoa so having anything make her even more relevant was great
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>>565845153
what are Heid's numbers? I rolled for her but haven't gotten around to even building her yet.
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Which one for Selena? Is the cube that relevant for extra attacks?
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Which Standard character should be the target for the rerolls? I have Rin, Veronica, and Khalipe already. 80 rolls away from the 300 selector so even top 2 or 3 would be helpful. Yuki, hdmi, and Haru are the rest of the 5 stars. And will probably get Tiph form the selector.
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>>565846145
I'd rather have the orb personally
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Running into bug woman with a 0 aoe team was a wild ride
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>>565846145
it depends, for Tower the orb is kinda useless because "start of the battle" means start of the very first wave out of 5
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>>565846258
chizu... strong?
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so had to use all my pulls to get Haide's and her partner.
those are my combatants. do I reroll? or what do I pick with the selector and that special banner?
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>>565846651
why would you reroll
Just focus on HDMI/Vero

The special selector is >>565836879 and special banner is be yourself
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Is this still a free "Draw 4, 200% coordinated attack" card or did they nerf it in today's update?
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>gets the best possible start
>do I reroll
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>>565847305
it ate all of my rolls.
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>>565847340
Should still be good, try it out
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>>565829335
If you haven't already, Kayron is overall stronger
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Is there a support character that buffs extra attacks specifically?
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>>565848436
Adelheid
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>>565848598
makes sense they'd do that
right now if you use heide with Selena or Hugo, Nia is kinda useless on that comp
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>>565848436
Nia
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>>565848676
Cassius works better
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Adelheid will be the support bot for Magna and HM
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how important are HDM's dupes?
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>>565848937
E2 makes her a lot better
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>>565848937
E2 is good and worth it I'd say
E6 is kinda insane but wyell...
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ALRIGHT PROTOS WHO DID YOU GET FROM YOUR FREE TEN TOLL
DUPE RIN FOR ME
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>>565849018
>but wyell...
they fixed her E6
check the patch notes
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>Really like the sword build a lot more
>The extra attack build is the meta one instead
suffering...
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lost another speedrun chaos run on difficulty 11
anyways heres wonderwall
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What crit ratio should I be looking for? I can get Rin to 50-60 crit rate with roughly 170% damage, but looking for a general rule.
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>>565849079
renoa and nine.
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from the free 10 rolls i got from the pity chizuru e1 two days ago and today khalipe e3
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>get so addicted to sortie and auto chaos that I missed a daily on endfield
Its over...
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>>565849940
Based! And same
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>>565849940
people still play endfield? lol
the 1.1 and 1.2 updates were complete flops
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>>565848598
Adel is gonna be the shield / counter attack support though.
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>>565849627
That's a good ratio, maybe you can get more CD
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>>565850220
yeah bro she's totally going to be the support for a random standard character and not the support for the seasonal character
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I- I beat my first Hardcore Sortie, please clap...
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>>565850304
>Not knowing that Bria is going to be the shilled shielder / counter attacker
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>>565850379
pachi pachi pachi pachi
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>Just got Tiphera E2 from standard
Alright bros I didn't use last season's universal dupe nor the selector and I have about 650 shop currency.
Do I make Tiphera e6 and turn her into a NUKE or do I spend the universal dupes/shop currency on Heidemarie, who is likely safer to invest on?
I could realistically get HDM to e4 with this season's dupe
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>>565849940
when is "fun" supposed to happen in open world 3D slops?
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>>565850619
hmmmmm nyoo save for next limited
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@grok is it more efficient to buy dupes or buy a partner? Consider that I have every 4 star at E6.
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>>565850619
I considered doing this too but I'd rather do this with Luche or Azelante since they'll be shilled charas for their season while Tiph's season already passed
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returning bab here, I'm confused by the battle skip system. Some of my best runs die at or right before the final boss. Is there a sweet spot for difficulty or guide to make sure you don't get fucked over?
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Made this deck with 14 free draws because why the fuck not
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>>565851606
I usually auto VIII or IX since there's no reason to do higher anymore with savedata editing and it's a lie I'll ever need more than 140~160 in chaos
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>>565849079
My 4th Hugo dupe
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Renoafag here, would anyone care for insanely autistic detailed ramblings about every dupe in the game and how 99% of them arent worth rolling?
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I have come to the conclusion that HDMI is fun
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>>565852056
Why not, and yes dupes are generally overrated in this game
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How do you deal with this problem when making HDMI decks? Instantly makes the deck unusable
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>>565852127
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>>565852215
you can remove thread of light and then re-add it with savedata edit theoretically.
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So I just got back to the game and played the Sortie, it's probably the most fun mode and all and I feel like in the first time playing the game... but why the fuck did they stamina gated it? Smh.....
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>>565852312
I actually want thread of light for this though and readding it + eping it would cost me two orbs
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>>565852430
You retrieve the stamina if you win
and you actually gain stamina at higher levels (lv80 HC)
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Don't fall for it again
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>czn general faster than ever
>everyone is returning
>newfags joining in
>its been several weeks now
Yeah, I'm thinking its time for you all to apologize to the czn devs for ever doubting them.
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>>565852430
Just win and you get your refund!
They should adjust it though, there's 0 incentive to play funny chars like Yuki.
>>565852474
you can cut one of the others then.
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>>565852215
isn't the meta build four effulgents + finale sword rain?
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>>565852515
rei's design was so erotic they had to run it back
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>>565852661
If you're doing extra attack build you can't cut anything. Maybe cut hero to all I guess but the draw of it is really helpful.

If you're doing the finale build then yeah cut thread of light since you're a 1KO build
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>>565852595
they went from 2.5 to a fucking 4.6 on KR googleplay
sortie saved the game
Arcalive is filled with people talking about sorite and new players asking for help
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They should try to buff shittier characters with some card buffs available only on sortie, see what the reception is, kinda like a beta test
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>>565849079
E1 LUKE AUUUUUUUUUUUGH
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>>565853076
I remember when everyone here was shitting on the devs during the streamers Q&A.

Especially when the streamer asked the devs if there was going to be any sort of selector during half anniversary and the devs simply laughed.
God, all of the faggots here were upset, saying how out of touch they were and how this game was only going to get worse.
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reminder that Adel was a Yuki support in her old leaked kit
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Returning player her, haven't been able to clear Theatre of Illusions.
Can anyone elp me.
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>>565852608
They could use it as a testing ground for some over the top buffs for characters to see what actually works. Instead of needing to buff yuki every patch.
Or some crazy fates if you're playing characters with low representation.
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Sortie was a mistake.
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Which version of sword rain do I want for Heidemarie's nuke build? The non-aoe version
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>>565853549
I did it fairly easy with narjer, HDMI, and nia.
The best advice i can give you is, dont go for good decks and cards over all. Try to go for a deck that'll clear that individual run.
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>>565853549
beronica > diana
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>>565853767
the one that isn't in that picture, the thing the finale version doesn't tell you is it puts her non-epiphany card back into your deck after exhausting the 0 cost
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>>565853926
Rei of light...
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>>565853969
anon the finale one is just not good for non-aoe scenarios, since release is just stronger
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>>565853830
So I wasted gems pulling Diana, listening to what previous faggots were saying in past threads?
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>>565853462
I also remember when you abandoned CZN for Endfield, Kroni post your season 2 medal .
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>>565854102
>>565853926
what other character has a (^▽^)
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>>565854118
it doesn't exhaust your blades and release does so the finale scales forever, that's why it's so broken, "anon"
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>>565850674
when you find the 96871238815th chest
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>>565854325
people said heide was better without diana on day 1 just admit you wanted to pull the ugly pink
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>>565849079
Dupe Mei Lin, she's E2 now
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>>565850379
pachi pachi pachi pachi
>>565851606
It's based on autobattle AI
Take from that what you will
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>>565854325
Diana needs HDMI, not the other way around. HDMI can link Quietus cards.
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>>565854385
I remember when you ran off to play stella sora.
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>>565852170
It shall be done
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I didn't run off to play Stella Floppa, EOSfield, or Neverness to EOSness.
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>>565853926
>>565854102
SS Edenity dorks...
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Every general HAS to have at least one schizo eh?
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Rei is going to be the next nopan mayor of Edenity.
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>>565854461
that finale card is gone after a single use, its just not good
it'd be a different story if it wasn't exhaust
If you want to do infinite scaling, just going for release is better
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>>565855827
oh i’d release alright
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>>565855538
only as long as kronigger exists
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How build nine? Do I just get extreme hew, and copy as many fighting spirit cards as possible?
Im not sure about her other epiphanies. But she seems like she could have a fun combo build with magna.
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>>565855538
remove the /trash/ tranny and suddenly the thread is perfect
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>>565839005
In Chaos you start with 3 combatants so she works just fine, it's only sortie that's a problem since you can't start with both Veronica and a sustain.
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>>565846079
She buffer overflows the damage number. She can do 25mil+ but the game can only handle 6 million.
She's 5 times stronger than the next strongest character in an ideal scenario.
>>565848937
E2 feels really amazing and you get more value from extra attack memory fragments.
Her E6 is obviously great too but it's twice as many pulls.
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>>565857220
Depends on the characters you build her with

Classic build is Extreme as it has the biggest damage. I use it with 4 copies of fighting spirit but the mega pro builds for rift were specialized in boss killing so they didn't even use fighting spirit, instead they kept the card that brings Hew to the maximum level and just shot that out every turn while giga buffed by Tiphera and/or Orlea
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>>565857220
literally all her unique hews can be used for viable builds
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I'm getting Tiph just cause she keeps shaking her ass at me in sorties
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A harmonized creation and destruction carries so fucking much in chaos/sortie like damn
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>>565857441
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New player, how many limited pulls do I get per a month?
Assuming I win the coin flip, should I get Diana or save for the next char?
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>pick Tiphera with selector
>very next day get Tiphera from daily rolls
DAMN BRAT I COULD HAVE GOTTEN NINE
NEEDS SPANKING CORRECTION
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>>565857574
>New player, how many limited pulls do I get per a month?
Everyone always asks this (including myself) and nobody ever answers but yes save for new char since she'll likely be the BIS HDMI support
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>>565857751
>Everyone always asks this (including myself) and nobody ever answers
because no one keeps track of it we literally don't know lol
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I'm addicted to gambling divine epiphanies (editing)
I think I just wasted a bunch on a deck I won't end up using much
at least its cheap
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>>565857853
The game has been out for 6 months, SURELY someone has bothered to make a mental note of how many rolls they get a month to know if they can afford next chara or not. I don't keep track either but I could give you a rough estimate of how many rolls I get a month in other games.
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Does something like this only trigger if its a card of the equipped character that gets discarded or is it agnostic to that?
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I'll clear HC Sortie IV eventually...
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>>565857695
She has the overall best epiphanies of a non-limited. You got lucky

>>565857574
>>565857751
>>565858023
When this was asked around when Nine came out, myself and a few others said they got around 650-700 limited pulls as f2p.That was 130+ limited pulls per month on average.
However those were very front loaded with apolopulls.
I think we get more like 85-100 per month now. It's just VERY inconsistent so hard to say. There's a lot more this month than last month.
This game also has a more generous pull refund currency than other games. You get tons of the currency from pulling on limited characters, and can get their partner for only 300 of it. You get 300 of it usually in about 140-170 pulls on the limited banner (much lower rate on standard, and even lower rate on partner banner)
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>>565848676
For the sword rain comp you use Cassius to provide morale + sustain.
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>>565858574
I don't have E6 cassius...
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>>565854781
I wasn't here day 1, but at least she has cute lines.
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>>565858639
Morale reduction from e6 isn't too important, especially since they capped his quests per turn, you just choose tripple 1 as his quest and you're good to go.
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>>565858023
oh, I found it
here, apparently an autist is doing it

the first seasons contains all the 1 billion freebies we got from dramas and all the base content btw

so basically assuming the worst possible luck, to get every character in a season, you need 140 rolls x 3 = 420 rolls
so S2 was missing around 22% rolls to let you do that.

again, preS1 and S1 are really screwed because of drama and freebies, we got so many lol
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHjA2Hn2g9o
Theres a 10K USD tournament going on?
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>>565858995
Do you have a link to his sheet, post or whatever he's doing?
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>>565859095
https://www.reddit.com/r/ChaosZeroNightmare/comments/1sycmj1/f2p_crystalspulls_for_preseason_3/
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>>565859030
for content creators
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>>565859030
It could be whatever but you couldn't pay me to watch this retarded grifter
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>>565846535
always has been
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>>565858995
Let's say I "skip" pulling a season.
Is there any content that I can't do or will have extreme difficulty completing?
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>Came back to 100~ rolls
>Looked at my logs
>Apparently I did like 75 on Heidemarie and 50 on Sylvia
>Somehow I still have 100
where the fuck are these rolls even coming from
I didn't think it was THAT much
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>>565859167
>everyone’s going to use e6 hdmi
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>>565859512
I skipped an entire season (S2)
I have 2/3 of the characters of the season I skipped (Tiph+Nine), got all the gem rewards from Full scale offensive, shat on the Dimensional Twilight and currently trying to decide what team I want to make to do the tower 150 climb.
Admittedly I got VERY lucky scoring Tiph from free rolls which enabled me to ticket Nine but yeah it should be safe to skip a season since I did it. Sometimes I wonder if I should have just played S2 or the pre-season but I might have still hated the game or burned out if I played before all the changes and QOLs they did for half-anni and no amount of rolls could save me not wanting to open or play the game.
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>>565822403
Anyone want to share some opinions here? Really could use some insight
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>>565859632
these tournaments usually have set accounts that you can use with full E0
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>>565859512
judging from season 2, yeah lol many quit and hated the game. I personally just did my chores and never bothered doing anything else unlike now where I am playing for hours every day

the issue was that Nine was mandatory everywhere. the chaos was order based and featured some annoying enemies that hated multihitters (Sereniel the 1st limited), but that was manageable, the issue was everything else. all the content was tailored towards big heavy hitters with no space for no one else. sereniel had a time to shine in the 1st rift but that was it

I haven't tried the current chaos with anyone else but teams with Diana that ignores action count bullshit easily, but it looks manageable. the 1st rift boss is probably the boss from the story, I haven't checked his mechanics so no idea if he'll make you unable to get a decent score in rift.
it eventually doesn't matter because getting to the top of rift you get a stupid frilly icon

so yeah if the chaos is doable without HDMI, then you're fine, rift bosses are just supershilling the newest units and whale bait and just give cosmetics with the crystal rewards being basic shit like getting a very basic score, the important is that you can play the chaos and kill the nebula bosses which you should be able to with any comp as long as they're either well built or tailored for it. for example the current boss can be probably abused a bit with action count increasing effects from engravings and such

I also have no idea if they'll keep the current Rift format, a.k.a. 40 days/2 pathces, the previous Rifts lasted a patch and featured a single boss with 2 sides rather than 3 bosses and 3 teams/sides
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>>565860271
>the issue was that Nine was mandatory everywhere. the chaos was order based and featured some annoying enemies that hated multihitters (Sereniel the 1st limited),
god I would have fucking loathed that given that I spent nearly everything on sereniel and probably quit with a grudge so I'm glad I quit at the preseason because different games caught my attention at the time
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>>565860271
>I also have no idea if they'll keep the current Rift format
Isn't Rift not open yet and will only be open when Adelheid comes out? The whale mode with 3 teams is something else and I can't even begin to care
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>>565859632
E6 HDMI is only like $400 on average. Worthy investment to get $10,000.
>>565859520
The game is extremely generous with them.
I hope they keep it up I'd rather pay $5/mo for the less grind thing they came out with than $5 a month for 4 days worth of free pulls.
>>565860271
>>565859512
Last season's great rift was pretty cock and ball torture.
It was also annoying as fuck that you had to do the story first so I only got to farm it the last 2 weeks and missed quite a bit of rewards.
Limited time content should never be story locked.

Anyway, the Great Rift was way more Tiph+Rita limited than Nine limited. Plenty of people in the top 50, and plenty in the top 20% to get the max rewards, were not using Nine but they were all using Tiph+Rita.
Fucking ran into that stupid boss and it ended my Sortie run on the last floor, too. Fuck that Great Rift version of that boss.
And the Chaos could be done perfectly fine without Nine. Nine was just able to solo it at higher difficulties but you did dif 8 to farm anyway.
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>no healers on floor 1
Fuck this game
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>>565860861
thats why you pick a healer when starting the run
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>>565860861
be honest you picked him for the shitpost
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>>565860902
>starting with a healer
No man
>>565860908
I picked him for the pitiful amount of shielding that he has on top of the +1 hit
I haven't even flashed once during this floor because I had to heal instead
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So would Owen not just double the damage of Refulgent Release?
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>>565861156
If you manage to line up the cards in your hand, it would.
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>unironically picking owen
Alright man
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>>565861156
he would yeah
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>>565861256
I mean now that you can add retain to cards... you just make Owen with the +1 hit and retain and remove everything else, right?
That sounds sick
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>>565858231
P-Please respond...
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>>565861345
Throw Owen into enough chaos rifts and he may come back as the cock-hungry girl Wendy one day
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>>565860271
I could see the next rift being a lot more universal than previous ones. They pretty much tarred and feathered the director live when talking about how Nine slanted things were
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>>565861397
it's probably better to just play tiph and orlea instead. that card is an effective 50% increase in damage, orlea can do that with like 3 dudes used
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would you pay for the genderbent owen skin?
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>>565861589
>They pretty much tarred and feathered the director live when talking about how Nine slanted things were
was that in the anni stream or are you referring to the Q&A where he didn't answer half of the questions kek

ill believe it when I see it

I imagine top 1 leaderboards will be nothing but HDMI obviously but I'd like to see some anons get some good scores with non conventional characters
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>>565861591
Why is it only 50% and not 100%? Because the first hit will consume buffs that double its damage over the second hit?
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>>565861804
Quietus is being shilled this season so at most you'll probably see Diana/Renoa instead of Diana/HDMI or Renoa/HDMI
Maybe even Rita/HDMI since she can gain CA on discard
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>>565861929
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>>565860861
I always either start with a Vanguard and or healer because of bullshit like that.
Double vanguard seems solid for this sort of mode
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>>565861929
and here's Orlea
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>>565862292
What is this mode? Is it like IS from AK? Picking up teammates as you go?
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>>565858231
>>565861521
I don't know but I was watching your post to see if anyone responded.
Try posting "please respond" but with a picture of the ass of a girl from Morimens
>>565862006
Oh fuck I didn't know it had that -25% that's gay.
But isn't that and Softie both additive so if you have 10 Moral it's only like +175% instead of +200% which is a little over 10% less damage, and Softie is only actually like 15% more and not 35% more?
So that +1 hit is almost 90% more damage since it's multiplicative.
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>>565862479
Chrono Ark mode
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>>565862518
Softie is multiplicative

+% = additive
by % = multiplicative
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>>565862518
Not that anon but I posted a cute picture saying please respond and no one responded to me either when I could have really used some outside input.....
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The 3 team mode 6 months from now is going to require you to have gotten all 3 limited characters by then.
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>>565862682
Are you this? >>565822403

Build characters first, "better fragments" just make your character a bit stronger, new built characters give you more deck power and fun
as long as you have the correct main stats and maybe hit the first milestone of the right top potential it's fine

on who to build build cassius and then decide between selena or hugo for the graveyard 5xsword build
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>>565862753
>Anni is just straight-up ripping off StS2's multiplayer
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>>565862918
Why cassius before Selena or hugo? Aren't the later two more important?
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>>565863021
I mean together, it's not like you can enter chaos alone I think lol cassius fits in more teams though, he's a decent draw character
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>>565862990
The developers outright said they took inspiration from STS and the shooting the chaos heart at the end of a run is like the scene at the end of STS1 with the heart so it's no real surprise the game takes a lot of inspiration from Chrono Ark/STS
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whats she doing.
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>>565862960
Respond to my DICK faggot.
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>>565848676
Nia is the infinite fucking healing engine

Good luck with savadata content with 0 healing or shields and 3 dps.
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>>565863928
What team do you propose then?
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>>565864002
I propose you keep using Nia so you have a source of healing
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>>565863889
mini bunny
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>>565863253
>>565862990
we really need a character that is on a throne all the time
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Last 5 floors really were piss easy. Elemental Spirit at 135 was the biggest cunt by far.
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>>565864290
HDMI's swords resemble the regent's a lot
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So what make Tiphera auto clear chaos sweep?
Does her cards fix the auto AI?
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What is the difference between graveyard and discard pile?
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>>565865569
Graveyard = discard pile + used pile.
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Saw this on a video for use with Nia's soul riff healing

Thoughts?
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Not even the newfags share UIDs.
This has to be the most anti social gacha out there
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>>565866156
Wait for the Guild System then we can shitpost.
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Stop replying to the mentally ill avatarfag
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god card
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>>565866980
the tranny probably replies to itself given that it's been doing it for years
just filter that walking condom ad end and save your sanity
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>>565867193
>Not AP positive
It's alright
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Why was this game so slept on? It's tons of fun.
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Okay Sortie is a lot easier when you get a healer or protection role that isn't Maribell.
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>>565867973
No steam release
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>>565867973
Being a gacha means that its already overlooked by a lot of people who might otherwise enjoy it (I think I'm part of that, desu)
Second, the only claim to fame it had was a drama about writers a while ago which is also gonna dissuade a lot of people.
Finally, and this might get me in trouble, I don't think the character designs are interesting enough to attract much attention. For the most part they feel "generic gacha girl" I legit thought half them were just chinese gacha characters.
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>>565867973
4 games came out around the same time so people's attentions were split by a lot though to be fair, CZN came out the winner along with Trickcal since both managed to establish a fanbase and community while the other two are in danger of unironic EOS due to many reasons that aren't just the meme revenue chart.
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>>565867973
Because it isn't a 3d open world gacha game.
Just ask all the pathetic quitters who are now returnees.

They just LOVE their garbage 3d gacha slop.
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WHAT THE FUCK There's 3 of them now?!
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>>565868396
The character designs were really awful, I agree honestly. All the gacha releases were honestly quite awful in terms of designs and gameplay until like Sereniel where they started putting more effort?

Tiph was the first design that really caught my eye and this season's characters are a lot better too. If they had started out big like this then it would have gotten a lot more eyes over the dogshit that was S1 but maybe it's for the better that they used the worst designs for the "Open Beta" period of the game and didn't waste the better designs on shit kits.
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Returners, what actually made you come back anyways?
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quit larping because i know none of you faggots actually like Stove
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>>565868870
Sortie mode.
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>>565868678
this is a nasty fight
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>>565868870
I wanted a game that plays well on phones. Nearly everything these days is either a chore simulator with maybe 60 seconds of content a day or 3D games that run like a quadriplegic on your phone.

I really liked Tiph's design and came back to this general when she came out but was in sheer disbelief that this game had put out a character with small breasts and thought she had to be a rugpull and had surprise tits in her lobby and/or breakdown given this game's history.
Seeing Adelheid and Tenebria being leaked for next season sealed the deal for me and made me really want to play again.

And unironically, playing slay the spire 2 made me want to come back to anime slay the spire.
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fuck my stupid life I will never beat 65 HC
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>>565869052
stfu steamjeet, stove is the superior platform
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>>565868870
When I heard they did a livestream I didn't bother to check its contents and instead just checked this general to see what the current players thought of it and apparently the sentiment was pretty good, which is rare for /czn/, so I figured they had to be making actual meaningful changes and not just stupid bullshit that doesn't fix anything.
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Should I use my selector ticket on Rita or Narja? I have everyone else available except Luke and Kayron
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>>565869920
Pick Rita if you hate yourself.
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Imagine throwing away the free cross advertising from "games like" Slay the Spire and the current deck builder game promotion from gayben just to save a few shekels.
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>>565870035
Steam hate gacha and people who use Steam but love gacha already know about CZN.
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>>565870005
she's cute tho
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>>565870035
We'll get it on CN release, trust
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Well, CZN? Who do I use the selector on? I got just got a dupe Veronica.
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>>565870186
Don't lie, both Wuthering Waves and Limbus Combat have found success on Steam.
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>>565869920
Narja is somewhat more versatile
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>>565870365
Tiph or Nine
Most people lean towards Tiph because supports have overall better shelf life but Nine is a good pick too. The only good character from the season before is limited and getting standards from a special limited selector is bricking yourself.
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>>565870482
>have found success on Steam
Me when I lie
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>>565870365
I'd use on either Nine (self-sufficient DPS) or Tiphera (really good support)
While Diana would offer some support to Heidemarie, ironically she is bullshit good already with Selena and Nia.
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>>565870005
>>565870502
okay, Narja it is
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>>565870601
They both have regularly be in the top ten grossing, Limbus in particular doesn't have a dedicated PC client and makes a lot of money on Steam alone.
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Steam is inevitable
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How do you avoid that fucking great rift dog and hand face guy in Sortie?
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czn?
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>>565870815
Wuwa isn't regularly top 10. Top 11-25, sure.
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>>565871250
>great rift dog
nerfed to the ground
>hand face guy
already removed
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>when the stars align and you get a rapist deck
I came
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I genuinely feel like Nine's voice should be replaced with Khalipe's. It really feels like some retard swapped them because it doesn't fit their character. Btw both of them bite and lick you
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but when will they replace Yuki's voice
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>it's a feature not a bug !
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Yuki's awful story almost killed the game
I genuinely could not care less about her lesbian romance
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>>565870186
There are constantly people that ask "what game is this?" even in dipshit gacha focused chats. There are people out there that literally do not know your game exists because it's on some unknown gook store client. That's leaving money on the table.
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Why is my Defense facility in monopoly still 15
All my other stats are over 100
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>>565870526
>>565870664
Perhaps I'll hold onto it for the time being, j really don't know what I'm doing in the game just yet. Just been using Heidemarie, Veronica, and Nia and need to spend some more time in the chaos getting better save files.
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BATTOU
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>clicking reset just gives you max event points
uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh based??
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>>565871846
I can't care about any of these stories. They keep trying to do high stakes but the stories are so short that they have no emotional weight. It's just, hey here's the banner character, someone they know died and they're very sad about it, now we fight a giant monster and the story's over.
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>>565872487
Reporting you.
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>>565871526
>4 set instinct on Khalipe
WHAT ARE YOU DOING
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>>565858231
Rule of thumb is that if the word "ally" isn't there, it is only for the equipment owner.
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>>565872631
I liked S2 story since they did the development with Nine and Tiph a lot better, too bad Rita kinda got rushed/sidelined.
S3 has been pretty nice too so I'm looking forward to seeing how things improve. HUGE improvement from S1 where the MC was a character that looks like she works street corners for a living and spent the entire season crying about her dead lesbian lover.
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>>565872823
If it's ally, does it include the wielder or only the other two teammates?
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Make sure to complete those battle missions!
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>>565872882
I feel like HDMI is the same thing though, crying about her dead teammates who we have just as little attachment to and know just as little about as we did about Asuna. Nine and Tiph were better though, yeah.
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>>565873087
Difference is that heidemarie has an entire side event telling you about those teammates and giving you their story which is way better than
>ASUNAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
for like 2 months
Heide also gets over it quite quickly with the help of kanchou instead of dwelling on it for IRL months
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PERSONA
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Is she good...?
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>>565873010
All 3 team members
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>>565873328
Worst character in the entire game, congratulations! Two rounds of buffs and is still shit
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>>565872149
Good idea.
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>>565873328
I'm not exaggerating when I say that she is one of the worst 5* in the game currently
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>>565873241
I actually haven't read the side event so that's skewing my perception apparently.
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>>565873328
B-Bro
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>>565868870
Free gibs.
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>>565873525
>>565873394
Cool.
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Another Sortie run failed because they never GIVE ME ANY OF MY CHARACTERS CARDS FUCK OFF REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!!!!
>Wow 3 choices of cards after that battle, I bet they're all going to be great
>2 garbage common cards and a dupe of a card your character doesn't even use more than 1 of
DIEEEEEEEEEEEE!!!!!!!
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>>565868870
HMDI's ass
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>>565873660
>Play Sereniel
>Never ever get a singular Shining core or laser dupe
>Die
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>>565873615
Well, give her a spin and see if you like her gameplay.
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>>565873615
Who knows, you might get interested in running the only 3-star in the game because she's worse than the 4-star characters.
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>>565873615
A more dedicated explanation: she is an AoE-focused character, in a game that most of the timie you really want single-target.
She did get some buffs to her damage and a playstyle more focused, but unfortunately they released Nine, that can branch into an AoE build that does all Yuki can do and MORE damage with a single high cost card, with a deck that activates said high cost card for peanuts.
On paper Yuki can draw her own cards and spam them. In practice you rarely need her and Nine doesn't need those hoops.
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Theres no time limit to the selector???
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>>565873615
She's better than Haru and Rita at least.
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Just one more 10% buff will save Yuki I swear, you'll see when S4 comes, just trust the plan.
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>>565874001
yes you can keep it forever
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>>565872820
What should I use? I don't think it matters too much?
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>>565845153
(Me) Sucks for me since I have yet to pay a dime in any gacha.
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I'm still sad they nerfed Tressa, seeing an enemy explode after a billion card effect was funny as fuck
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Is the $5 monthly the only good value for pulls?
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>>565874092
Honestly I dunno, 2 piece defense is mandatory but she doesn't really make use of that 4 piece set. I'd say the counter boosting set to buff Magna but gearing Khalipe to solely boost one unit is a bit iffy. Then again you could probably make a counter Khalipe with common epipis on VE.
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>>565874343
I'm sad they nerfed her story presence, she's a good girl.
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>>565874476
Yes
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Does combatant order mean anything in chaos?
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>>565873416
I was close to pity on the character so I gamba'd on Diana, then I got lucky on getting her Partner. Game has been very generous so far as a newfag tourist.
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Why does a mayor dress like that?
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>>565875041
An anon ran his numbers and apparently between rate-ups we always get enough (with clearing content included) for over 70 rolls, the necessary to force an SSR.
Though that was before we reached a half-anniversary and all these freebies.
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Can I just keep my selector ticket forever?
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>>565875253
I know it's the lowest bar, but playing this after Endfield really makes me realize how horrible their gacha is. But I still buy packs over there... What's some good cost packs here? Monthly gems and monthly skips?
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is this worth editing uncs? that persona card is bis for veronica right? I haven't played around with those cards yet
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>>565874947
no
>>565875127
who's gonna stop her
>>565875294
yes
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>>565875436
No, it isn't. There is a lot wrong here but I'll start with how the persona has 2 effects that activate it on discard. Once you upgrade the Codex you will be able to reroll the effect you are gaining 3 times, allowing you to build it better. That effect can be good specially with Nia in the team, but you could have used another thing in place of once of those.
The next big issue is that while you got the right Repose, you only cloned it once. With the exception of one type, all the other cores are infinite in the shop (sure some more expensive than others) but the rarest one is the dupe core. Meaning the ONE thing you must ensure you get in a run is all the necessary copies, which means both of the Bosses ones and the extra event that can spawn. Do that and you can edit the rest without guilt.
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>>565875380
Endfield is okay if you get the daily pass and don't roll for every banner. The battle pass is also high value unlike other games because of the arsenal pulls and BP weapon dupes. I'm personally enjoy playing things F2P.
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Im sleepy, ill finish this another day

https://rentry.org/ormuxi4d
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I'll get HDMI E2 next time she comes around
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>>565871368
>it is scared of the lion
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>>565876010
your smegma codes?
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>>565875436
How about you put some respect on our names, young'un, also yes but you need a way to discard it
Change that Kowalski to Draw 2 and put some divines on Repose since you only have two
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fuck this spider bitch how the fuck am I supposed to hit her when she spawns her stupid minions every 2 turns
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>>565875436
>no draw or +AP on repose
It's trash.
Also I wouldn't bother with persona cards on Veronica.
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>>565873328
You can clear the whole tower with her if you're gud enough.
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>>565876313
Yuki unironically rapes this boss.
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In STS, fighting Elites is vital to getting your run to work by getting you enough artifacts to push through some of the bullshit on higher difficulties, is that also true here? Are the equipment relevant enough that they may make or break your run?
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>>565877287
the ? events are generally more valuable than elites
equipment is important but you can also get it from ? events and from the shop
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i fuck hate stress as a mechanic
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>>565875917
what build does Narja E6 enable? Is it an offensive build, because that's what I want to build her as.
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>>565877473
working as intended then
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>>565877287
If I have to choose between an elite node and a regular node, I choose elites when I'm not risking failing the run. Credits alone are worth it. Equipment is just a bonus.
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>>565868870
Gibs and heidemarie
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Wait, so I can buy my first copy of a partner with this shop currency I get from rolling?
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>>565877979
yeah, you can also buy character dupes
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>CZN has better reviews than slay the spire 2
>CZN has better reviews than shadowverse
Damn, CZN is the best reviewed card game on the market right fucking now.
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>>565878605
Morimens is better
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>>565877287
Elite nodes are specifically for trying to RNG a monster card. Otherwise they are pretty irrelevant and sometimes weaker than normal nodes.
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I wonder if the faggots on here are gacha players, or card game players.

Who does czn appeal to, to the autistic gacha crowd or the autistic card game crowd.
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>>565878605
Its not even on Steam you dumbass
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okay who should i use with Heidemarie? I need to grind her deck out. what should i aim for? sortie or chaos? manual or auto? also any 5 star worth e2ing with the selector?
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>>565878605
>they don't have attention whore avatarfag
Man they're so lucky
>>565879731
But Kroni youre both
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>Rin
>Renoa
>Veronica
>Cat girl
>1 selector girl (Narja or Tiph or the Diana)
>1 guarantee standard banner (Narja or Tiph or Diana)
Who the fuck do I raise?
I'm choice paralyzed
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I hardly play gachas.
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>he still uses Mei Lin
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Kroni must be so bored.
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Risk 7 get
Will try out Risk 10 or 13 later, shit is hard. E2 HDMI only
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>>565873615
She will get a Third Round of buffs GUARANTEED.
This time they will actually rework her instead of giving her +20% extra damage
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Who's more shit, Haru or Yuki? Someone's gotta be at the bottom for being the most useless BITCH.
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>>565877495
Yes
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>he still doesn't have Veronica
ngmi
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When I wanna grind a specific Chaos, I should do it through the Zero System instead of through the Chaos screen, right?
What if the chaos I want is currently not showing up in there, though? Should I just go directly to the chaos?
Also, should I be using my aether refreshes to get the Loot Certificates when I don't have the stamina right now or should I just come back when I do and claim the rewards? I feel like I should never ignore those rewards, but I don't always have the stamina
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>>565881334
Why would SG do all that effort when can just sell another limited then gut her after her season ends?
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To be honest, the more I try Haru the more I realize she's just prototype Nine.

Haru's whole design is to just try to be what Nine is but with extra steps.
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thank you /czn/ for containing the tranime retard
may your game stay alive for a long time
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>>565881619
He's in other general too? what a retard
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>>565881740
Xhe used to plague /gflex/ and some other gens. They were recently in /end/ but that flopped from what I've heard.
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>>565881152
Everytime I try a higher risk I keep getting fucked by not getting effulgent expansion, game keeps giving me sword rain with generic epiphanies.
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>>565881487
>I should do it through the Zero System
Yes
>What if the chaos I want is currently not showing up in there
Refresh using the 2 free chaos refresh you get per day
>Should I just go directly to the chaos?
No. I don't think you get the zero system upgrade mats from normal chaos.
>should I be using my aether refreshes to get the Loot Certificates
Only if you need the memory fragments, in general you should always skip it if it gives your memory fragments you don't need.
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>Haru
>good
Yeah I think the people here don't play the game.
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Haru is genuinely the worst character in the game. Even Yuki outperforms her, but people still want Yuki buffed for some fucking reason.

People just don't play the game or they're massively retarded.
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Does the final phase of this thing have anything good? Wondering if I should spend all my tac upgrades to unlock it or if I should spend it all on the stat improvements.
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>>565882743
you can reset and check it out yourself for basically free
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>>565882743
>Monster card rate up
>breakdown recovery chance
>divine epi chance
>15% heal at midstage checkpoint
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What sort of retard can't clear tower 150? Let me guess these stupid bitches use Haru, Nine and Khalipe right? Maybe they should stop shitposting for attention so much and actually play the game.
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>>565882743
It's kinda shit
>increase chance of monster card
>increase chance of breakdown recover
>increase chance of divine (4%)
>gray market recovers 15% hp
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>>565882793
Good reminder
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My game glitched out during delegation mode. I want my currency back
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>>565881334
Does Yuki really need more buffs? She's strong enough for the tower.
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Imagine struggling to clear 9/9. I bet the main problem is that these dumb bitches are using Haru as their dps.
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>>565882860
>>565882878
Dem, pretty useless then. That heal at the checkpoint could be pretty clutch though.
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>>565882204
I'm also told that I should basically exclusively farm the event Chaos now, can I do that in Zero too?
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>>565883226
You can't access the event chaos in zero (meaning you don't get the event currency) but you can still get the event mechanic (persona cards) in zero provided you pick any world with that mechanic.
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>>565883056
Personally I'd question the strength of a character if they need decks minmaxed with divines to beat it.
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>>565883315
I see, so for now I should prioritize maxing out the event chaos to get its event currency?
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>>565883056
>deck filled to the brim with divines
>OMG YUKI IS SO STRONG NO NEED FOR BUFFS!!112
Now call yourself a stupid bitch.
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>retarded transvestite pretends those are "minmaxed" decks
[-]
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whats dominion??
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>>565881740
He's shitting up /nte/
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>>565881957
Her face is retarded but those saggers make it up for it
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>>565880161
>who should I use with Heidemarie?
for save data content she's strong with nia and either hugo or selena. if you have Diana then you can use them together even though they don't really synergize with each other.
>sortie or chaos?
Chaos is to build decks, Sortie is a roguelike mode where you can't save the decks but doing it gives you stuff that lets you edit decks.
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>>565883536
Pretty much. Unless you plan on farming exploration level on blue pot to get the discard cube
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should I put more rolls to try to get heide e2
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>>565884618
You will end up getting every other character from Standard so yeah.
She is basically E1 anyways from this Season's omega code
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How can we compete
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>>565883056
>>565883418
>>565883584
has nothing to do with divines, it's dominion stall.
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>>565884470
Cute.
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>>565884838
Cute.
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>>565868870
I never disliked the game at all, I just got extremely burn out. I was grinding Lab 0 well beyond the weekly cap just to get currency to try buy out the shop. My thinking was that it's how i'd be able to raise my characters faster but the opposite happened because I didn't touch the game for months (pretty much the entirety of season 2). I eventually just forgot about the game until I saw that the app icon was updated to half-anni so I came back. I fear that i'm addicted again but not really the same as before. Where i'd be playing for 5-7 hours in season 1 Chaos i'm not taking it easier and doing 2-3 hours of sortie and then auto Chaos. The auto Chaos is honestly a better update than Sortie for me because i'm the kind of person to overthink choices for much longer than necessary.
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>>565884879
WHY would you reply to the tranny? You gave them fuel for the next two threads.
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should I buy monthy pass
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>>565885241
nyes
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>>565884879
Relying on a crutch like Dominion proves even more how dogshit Yuki is, stupid fucking BITCH.

And of course you'll gloss over her divines too because you don't play the game.
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>>565885241
do you like the game
do you play a lot
do you have money

if 2/3 of the above are yes then buy the pass
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>>565884879
Im actually surprised they’ve done nothing to dominion while having changed up so many other monster cards.
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>>565884879
>it's dominion stall.
Yeah like that makes it any better retard. Just admit that Yuki is shit instead of being a shitposting tourist.
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What was the point of diana? She's weaker than hdmi and hdmi is better off without her 9/10 times.
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>>565859632
Nine is probably better.
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>>565885774
she's the classic bait pull for people that don't know any better. i remember day 1 when hdmi released, everyone including the devs was trying to shill diana with her.
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>>565885774
Big tits, underboob, and she’s cute.
That’s it.
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>>565885774
>She's weaker than hdmi

Every damage dealer in the game is, HDMI is broken

Diana is shilled on one of the bosses though (bonus score for discarding bullets). She's also just fun to play.
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>>565884470
fat fuck
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>>565885394
Dominion is dead weight in limited turn-based content, you want to burst out your damage in specific turns or have a steady, consistent source of damage that a Dominion might fuck up.
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>>565885774
Another bcharacter to collect.
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Remove Form Convergence for sure, then duplicate Quantum Seed.
Then there's the choice of keeping the nuke or removing it and making it a beautiful 4 quantum seed only deck that draws itself and more.
Which route would you go?
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>>565885774
I like pairing her with renoa.
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I literally dreamed of Linked Quitus cards
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>>565885774
She does insane amounts of damage?
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>>565886029
>Every damage dealer in the game is,
Proof?
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>>565886327
Form Conversion is needed to unclog and unfuck your deck. Also where's the upgrade?
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>>565884470
cute
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>>565886113
>limited turn based content
Just realized, we don’t really have those anymore.

It’s funny, everyone kept crying for an unlimited turn limit endgame variation to differentiate between genshin like games where endgame is all time based.
And we’ve seemingly ended up completely neglecting the Basin.

Is tower endgame with no turn limit better than turn limit endgame like the Basin.
Strangely haven’t really seen people complain about tower as much as they did with Basin.
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>>565882920
Happens by 100% when the blue tentacle monster spawns, just restart the client and continue
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This guy was a pain to fight.
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>>565886609
lol
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>>565885774
A premium chaos wheelchair for HDMI.
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>>565886672
It didn't pop, could always use one of the edit data tickets to add it though
The idea I had was to just always choose square so that if there are more generated in the deck I could draw them, but I guess that only gets rid of 1 out of 2 huh
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>>565875917
Renoas husband...
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This type of build is good enough, right?
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>>565887496
Yes, looks great bwo
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PSA, this node is completely useless in Sortie because you don't even get epiphanies in the normal way like you do in other chaoses, you can only get epiphany cards at events, at the end of battle, and at the campsite.

Unless they mean the chance for divines to show up on those cards at the end of fights, which still sounds pretty shit for how low the increase is and how I see plenty anyway.
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if I want to play with renoa and heide together I just need to go all in on quietos and renoa flower discard copies?
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>>565887564
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>>565888135
You use the Renoa draw deck or better yet, don't use Renoa with HDMI.
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>>565888135
>renoa and heide together
lol no
if you really want to play renoa with someone then you'd want diana instead
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>>565888135
Renoa is better with Diana
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Someone post your Cassius post nerf deck please these useless guide websites still using his outdated deck
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should I build combatants for sortie? does potential matter?
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>>565888562
Everything matters except mem frags.
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>>565888195
>no instructions how to get that sticker
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>>565888660
I just got it in the mail
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>>565888554
I got you my nigga.
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>>565888554
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>>565888554
>>565888753
>>565888840
Chose quest
4x discard entire hand
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>>565888660
literally check mail
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How do you guys split time between this game and other gachas?
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I guess this is mandatory for Nia now?
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>>565889119
CZN barely takes any time, you have weeklies that is maybe 1-2 hours total and dailies are down in 10 minutes.

I grind wizardry for 12 hours a day in the background whenever I'm at my PC.
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>>565889119
I stopped playing chinese gacha.
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>>565889119
>other gachas
Sorry, I don't breath through my mouth.
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>>565889119
I play this and watch the other gachas on streams.
No but DESU I don't play any others currently. I'd rather finish my factorio run or play some POE.
I played Endfield till after the TangTang story but have not logged in since
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>>565886029
So should f2p should save until the next void hunter + supports are announced?
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>>565889119
Only other gacha I'm playing is Morimens and their release schedule is.... lol.
For non gacha, it depends, but I tend to binge the game until I'm done then quit. Last one was Vampire Crawlers. Pretty fun.
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What hero to all epiphany do you want?
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>>565888554
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3SX1Osqa9Ho
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>>565889220
Too low impact, if you can believe it.
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Why is she called HDMI?
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>>565889220
For 20 save points you'd want a ap divine epi instead.
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>>565889620
HeiDeiMarIe
Its mostly that her name is long and weird to spell and the nickname fits
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>>565889220
1 more AP per turn is not that much for 2 Cost upfront, one deck space, and 20 Faint Memory.
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Nia is a fucking fraud. She can't heal without her basic cards. Wasted so much resources building this whore for nothing.
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>>565889692
>DEI
Fucking diversity hires on SS edenity I swear
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>>565889220
Only if you get a reduced cost divine, 2 AP otherwise is pretty hefty of a price to pay unless you got a god deck with lots of +AP everywhere.
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>>565889824
>needing to heal
if you can't cycle ad infinitum you shouldn't even play this game.
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>>565889824
You need the 2 cost upgrade
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>>565889824
>She can't heal without her basic cards
retardGOD
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>do my first chaos with my new bitch Heidemarie
>lineup Tiphera, Veronica, Heidemarie
>die before reaching center boss
It wasn't like this with Nine what the fuck...!
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Wait, are people not running HDMI's finisher because they are e2 or because its not worth it to play?
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>>565890334
>Veronica
Your mistake
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>>565890384
Should I use Selena or Renoa instead?
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>>565890334
This has to be a skill issue. What Chaos?
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>>565845346
>every single gacha does this
Wrong.
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>>565890474
The new event chaos the first level I think 10
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>>565890490
>Lunar buff slop
>Not doing this
KEKAROOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!
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>>565889824
??? How the fuck did you 3 star the Diana boss without Nia healing? The boss was hitting me for 80% of my life on his double action turns, only Nia could full heal me in a single turn.
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why cant i play the fucking game it wont even launch because of supposed connection issues
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>>565889824
I fell for Nia's smelly buttcrack breakdown but I may be retarded but she's awful to use
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>>565845153
hdmi can only be compared against sereniel's max damage output, not other characters
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I hit for 17k with HDMI during chaos earlier. Was cool.
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>>565890608
>awful to use
she is bad in teams without discarding synergy which barely even existed before Diana/Heide.
However her special can just throw your whole deck into the trash and trigger every single quietus card. It's completely bonkers.
Her draw 3 cards also discards the rest. You don't even need divines to draw and discard a lot and heal along the way.

There should be more healers though or at least combatants with potential heal build. Diana has a heal card but nothing else.
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>>565890864
my Nine can do this every other turn, Nine is a mistake she's tiktok unga
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Sortie is boring. It needs multiplayer.
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>>565884260
what fragments on hugo or selena? I'm guessing hugo for draw support + dingos and selena just for dmg?
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>here's your anniversary reward bro
>a fucking sticker
why
who gives a single flying FUCK about these
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>>565891143
They need to do something about the entry cost. I want to just send it with all sorts of different characters I haven't played much but I don't want to waste aether.
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is it really that good? thinking of using my launch selector on this shit
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>>565891491
CUTE!
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>>565891609
Anything cept E4 seems unneeded for her.
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>>565891609
The 20 roll one? Yeah rin is a fine choice. Shes cute.
The selector where you can do anything up to s3? No.
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>>565885241
the crystals? sure it's just 5 bux
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so they have a ton of strong characters now. when will mei lin come out of jail?
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>>565891491
I do I love the stickers for my save data.
Stay mad
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>>565892210
After the game flops in CZ because of elasticity
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>>565890334
>Tipherabrick
You want Nia with Heidy.
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>>565876313
>fuck this spider bitch
Yes.
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>>565876313
Just bring Khalipe here.
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why is nine stronger than hdmi
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>>565876313
like this >>565846258
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>>565892496
>elasticity
why does this effect mei lin and not, sereniel and Heidimarie?
>>565893136
she's not?
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>>565889220
Hell no. An upgrade card that only gives 1 AP per turn? Eternal Hunger mogs it to hell and back.
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>>565889220
It's alright if you pyramid it i guess
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>>565893136
if anything nine is overrated with bad damage potential.
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Is czn back??
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>>565893718
>>565893718
>>565893718
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>>565886768
HDMI one shots it, you're just bad
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>>565889220
>>565889636
>>565889719
>>565889912
>lead
Just slap the pyramid accessory on Nia and it will activate that card for free.



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