The Nightmare is ongoing...>>565893718NEW CODE: CZN0418ARISE - 1000 CrystalsNEW CODE: CZNHALFANNIV - Craft cubeNEW CODE: 2026CZNNEWS2 - You're mum and Crystalshttps://chaoszeronightmare.onstove.com/en/coupon>S3 Patch noteshttps://page.onstove.com/chaoszeronightmare/en/view/13168282>HEIDEMARIE (NEW) Character PV https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jMqkN3am7k>Galactic News Network https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xtAVvaVQfHg>Current Featured Banner [Diana] Passion - Hunter | Rate Up Period: 04/08/2026 - 05/05/2026[Heidemarie (LIMITED)] Passion - Ranger | Rate Up Period: 04/29/2026 - 05/27/2026>Useful Links and ResourcesNew players guide: https://renoa-love.org/https://rentry.org/xtb66f3ihttps://wiki.e7bot.top/#/czn/combatant>Why didn't my Save Data save properly? https://rentry.co/cznsavedata/>Deckbuilders https://czn-save-cal.web.app/https://wiki.e7bot.top/#/czn/deck-builder
>Go to the therapist expecting help and to be cured>He red screens you for 5 crystalswhy bros.....
>>565972598Stop forgetting the other code...
Reposting cause new threadIs there any difference between the memory fragments of the same set? Like one in desire vs instinct or whatever the names they use are.
>>565972783whats the other codeI just copy pasted the previous OP
Deja vu, I have been in this place before.
>>565972890MAYTHE4THCZN (expires on May 10, 2026)CZNHALFANNIV (expires on June 30, 2026)CZN0418ARISE (expires on June 30, 2026)>>565972878I don't understand the question.The fragments are divided in sets (2p bonuses and 4p bonuses) and slots. There's difference between all of them.If you mean "do fragments of slot V differ between sets" for example the answer is no, they all give the same stats and can get the same substatsHaving an Order Damage % on a set that buffs Void damage is pointless so you can trash them, for example
>>565973173Yeah that, the slots is what I was wondering about.So a Black Wing (?) piece on slot 1 is the exact same as a piece on slot 5.Anything else I can immediately destroy?
HDM is kinda annoying to build, some decks can brick the run early on if you get certain epiphanies too soon.
oh theres a new nebula boss lol
>>565973524There's only one brick, which is converting your sword rain to a non attunement before duping/getting effulgent
Help. Choice paralysis.Currently running renoa worh Selena so left card might work but i dont know how much faint memory I have in renoas deck rnWby does fhe geme not show it aaaaaaa
>>565972878>>565973427The set bonus they provide the same regardless of the slot. The different is the main stat. 1-3 is always atk/def/HP stat ups. 4-6 has several unique main stats you can get on them that are % based. If you go to craft them, you can see what they are when choosing the stat options.
>>565973760Remove that card it fucking SUCKS. Also marks are per character, so Selena isn't attacking on those marks, Renoa is
>>565973427>So a Black Wing (?) piece on slot 1 is the exact same as a piece on slot 5.Slot 1 always have Attack as its main stat. It works like this1 - Attack2 - Defense3 - Health4 - Crit Chance, Crit DMG, Attack, Health5 - Element DMG %, Attack, Health6 - Attack, Health, Defense, EGO Recoverythese are the main stats
>>565973885>>565973942That is what I wanted to know, thanksSo that means you're looking for a specific piece on a specific slot for certain characters, right?
>>565973760The game shows your memory cap if you tap on a character's icon during chaos. There should be a tab that shows memory cap among other things.
>>565974239I know that. But it doesnt show DURING the card selection screen, where it matters, since a divine could fuck it up and I forgot the value
>>565973926I find the "exhaust all dirge bullets in graveyard" to be very helpful, and her extra damage boosts variant is also okay.
I nutted. All over Kyrken's milkers.
>>565974370I prefer to keep a giant graveyard full of bullets, and when the reshuffle happens Nia ego skill for the 1 shot.
>>565974217Yeah. When you're choosing gear for characters, if the main stat turns orange, it's typically a stat they want. Sometimes, you might want something else though. Depends on the character.
Anyone else thinks this nigga and his mage bro are a bit overtuned?
>>565974217basically yeswhat I do is farm them a bit then try to see which pieces have the correct main stats and best substats and try to do a 4p and 2p with them picking the best combinationsthe hardest to obtain is the V slot since there's so many stats, so that's where you can use the purple prism item, it lets you craft one with the stat you wantthey're also "kind" because they provided the exact chances to find the stats unlike Mihoyo gameshttps://page.onstove.com/chaoszeronightmare/en/view/11022851hereas you can see it is always screwed against crit and crit dmg so good luck friendas someone who played with these systems a lot, just get the main stat and you'll be mostly fine. luckily in this game the big deal of a character's power is save data
>>565974649Are there any differences between crafted fragments and the ones that drop in the missions?
>>565974708He's fine, the mage nigger is the one that's overtuned.
>>565973524I'm always running these two so they can wheelchair whoevers third. Veronica's Ballistas and Tiph's Creation and Destruction honestly do wonders at carrying all my chaos runs.
>>565972135This is the card. If you can get two bullet combatants with this card then you can use them both 5 times in one turn for only 1 ap. The key detail is that he engravings HAVE to be in that order, or else you will be forced to play a card for free BEFORE the persona cards are moved to hand. If you have two of these the they bounce off each other.
I"m having more fun than you are.
They changed the sortie rosterIt's bricks and Heide
>>565974795no, they're the same. could roll shit substats or godlike ones, pure RNGfeel free to craft some instead of spending stamina tof arm them
>>565974795No
>>565973636What's his gimmick for this raid, high card cost?>>565974708It kind of makes sense considering how useless the revive mechanic is. Both of them have like 2 turns of start up for their mechanic when one dies.
Can someone post their orlea deck? Why would you remove Annoying? I have found it clutch pretty often? Also not sure if I should remove her basics either since id have to rely on sturdy for heals only
>>565975023Rin's fun, I dunno what to tell you. Just draw her cards, shitter.
>>565975023Jokes on them, I've been picking Magna first lately.
>>565975023How build amir? She doesnt feel like she has enough shield to be defensive nor enough damage to be offensive, and her metalization doesnt ever seem to hit hard.
>>565974989What the shit5 exhausts? Mine only has 2. Damn i fucked up because I did see those engravings before but I didnt know they added to the exhaust counter.
>>565975090Orlea isn't used as a "normal" support, she's a very specific handlock style 1 shot setup based around stacking a single hit buff and using the largest possible nuke for instant kills after a few turns. Which means any characters without a big nuke, or hand size issues (hdmi), are completely unviable and there should only be a single attack in the entire deck.
I blew my load on the mayor
POST YOUR TIPH DECKS I NEED TO KNOW WHAT I SHOULD BE AIMING FOR
>>565975289Yeah, from what i recall the game doesnt state it, but applying exhaust increases the exhaust count. The game has a history of translation issues and poor mechanic explanations.
>>565975347You're supposed to blow it IN the mayor dude
Second method or Obsidian sword for Renoa?
>>565975409I dont have tiph.
>>565975409AP +1 on the rng seed that draws or Draw 1 on the seed that lets you pick4 of those
>>565975553I'd take Order's Baton instead
Mating press the Maidemarie.
>run rin as the main damage dealer>reach the depths>pick the remove all basic cards fate>it removes half of her deckkek, i'm such an idiot
Can I get my decks back if I died in a run or they just gone forever
>>565975668what about her other skills?
>>565975023Does Sortie take into account their potentials? All of them are going to be bricks for me otherwise.
>>565975979I had a fun deck where it linked my hand then another card that played all linked cards...
>>565975979if you die/fail a run then your deck is saved up to that point.
>>565975979when you lose in chaos your save data gets finalized as it is so it should be saved, go check
Haven't been able to get Effulgent before boss 1 in 3 runsWhat is this, S1?
>>565975979You can be the most important thing is the Copy events and one of them is gated by the final boss
>>565976124It scales them up to 55 I would think it scales other stuff like potentials too.
I remember people talking about STS2 getting pawned and suddenly a tweet popped up they hired one of those retarded game activist women. What happened?
>>565976975Who cares we have czn
>>565976975>muh activistskill yourself retardwhy even post this here
>>565976975Unironically a nothingburger.
The game consistently not giving me the worst dupe choices at final boss challenge (impossible)
>>565977393Newcutie...
>>565977393The fuck is this like a run from season 1 you didn't pick up until now? Why are there Orlea and Selena cards?
>>565977393Huhhhh your Zero System upgrade that targets a specific character?
>>565977274Anita Shartsniffan is an Activist yes—Sweet baby and the consulting company are still running a racket so you cannot just ignore it by digging your head under the sand like a faggotroon
>>565977393Reset your Zero System upgrade and pick the buff that let you select a character to copy card
>>565977539New players dont exist, right. (I just got these two so I wanted to try the event chaos with em)>>565977575There's no zero system upgrades in the event chaos right?? Well I'm only 1500 points worth of upgrades in anyway
>>565972598In case you haven't seen it: this was Adelheid's kit found in the game files, although given that the shilled theme is currently discard, and assuming Adelheid is Heidemarie's support, it is very likely that it will get reworked.https://rentry.org/kphxhdwc
>>565976975Days since an IP for autistic men tried to appeal to women: 0
Soooo I guess equipment modifiers don't cost any points anymore in Burning LifeThe god hammer DOES cost 10, which bricked a run :)))
>>565977393If you had to pick, what would you dupe here anyway? The rightmost card so you can use orb for 3 different epis in deck?
>>565976975CZN won
>>565977601They hired Anita?My nigga >>565977274 she's THE act*vist
>>565977964>Draw Divine instead of AP for HaruIt was bricked from the start
Why wont girls play card games???
wtf the game didn't give epiphany to one of my cards
>>565978090>apYour Narja?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FRW9qbll2wUShe is ..good?
>>565977601>Sweet babyJesus Christ STS2 is done for
>>565975672Oh shit i got it. Thanks
anyone have that gif of Nia at the rest site rapidly playing her guitar?
>>565977776>There's no zero system upgrades in the event chaos right?? Well I'm only 1500 points worth of upgrades in anywayLook, during Season 1 after a shitstorm because Lab 0 was horrible, they decided that Zero System upgrades extend to Seasonal Chaoses. Meaning yes they do apply to the Theater of Illusion.
i just got diana e1 from free pulls. how do i build her? what frags and what team? i'm using hdmi with nia and don't want to do hdmi diana nia. is it diana renoa and someone else?
and this seems to be Adelheid's lobby
got Narja partner from the discounted partner banner she a cutie bros I just use her for every controller now? She's my only 5 star
>>565978873>MC is putting her to sleepthats cute
>>565978090>AP:)))))
How liberal should I be with using these things?I wanna PROMOTIONS Veronica but the 2x is over and I also wanna grind some memory fragments...
>>565978581Diana + Renoa + NiaDiana is self-sufficient but Renoa actually outdamages her. The combination applies Quietus to the Dirge bullets therefore making Renoa fire her bullets twice in discard and exhausting them, avoiding you from getting your deck clogged in the long run.
>>565978909I think she is best on well Narja. Hitcounts trigger the Voracity manifold, specifically gives a bonus to a card of originally high cost etc.
>>565979547just use itif it's sitting in your inventory it's not doing anything
>>565979547Use it like crazy. We get tons of those and can just farm specific mats as needed
>>565979561ah shit... what frags on diana and renoa? and who should i use in hdmi team if nia is already in use?
what is the best partner to get from the ticket?
>>565978873But she was supposed to transform into Renoa alter...
This shit was clogging my hand so much Renoa couldnt get her dirge bullets in at all. Though I was nearly unkillable. It was okay
>>565980153I like Scarlet, very flexible
How do I unlock the ability to choose which character gets the dupe during chaos runs?
Unloading a Quantum Seed into Tiph
>>565980772Chaos upgradesReset shit if you need to rush this and other important stuff
>>565978873
nobody is rolling lolis bro
unless they’re meta supports
>>565981007can't find it anywhere in the pack. Where did you get it, or what's the original name of the file?
You will roll for the Nia upgrade
>>565978873So are we just sending literal kids off to be mind raped?
>>565980846Kanchou...
>>565981007>>5659788734* coded
>>565977393This is why Veronica was meta in season 1 when you couldn't chose which characters cards to dupe.
I really, really, really wish Hero to all didn't have a divine so I could just use divine orbs on another 0-cost sword.Also while I was fucking around with orbs, turns out that divines do get passed around if you use a potential orb on a card with a divine instead of losing the divine.
Is there a downside to just deleting memories besides the loss of the fucked up saved data?
>>565981554Yeah adel was 4* before but they promoted her to 5* and is the next banner character>>565981629You talk like she isn't meta anymore....
>>565981795Nah I delete trash memory saves every run to keep things tidy.
>>565981795Over time they'll lose all their memories of you and abandon you after they completely forget about you.
>>565981554She's listed as a 4-star (`RARITY_SR`) Justice Controller (`c_controller_blue`) in the files, but she's going to be a 5-star for the next banner.
>>565950902Khalipe is great for chaos, and any aoe content like the monthly easy endgame thing.Haru might be worse than Yuki.>>565952396Nine>>565952901She's an amazing healer and will heal for 0 AP, 0 action advance, anything.Her downside is that her stress reduction is mega ass. They need to put -15 stress on her Mealtime or just make voracity -1...>>565961491Welcome to the buff beggar club
I just got tippy but i have no resources.
>>565981554What should it be like as a 5*then?
>>565981926>>565981840>Promoted>Still looks like a 4*It's over...
>>565982104It's not like they were going to change her art given that she was a fan favorite
How the fuck is the game still crashing on chuthulu?
>>565980398You're new!
>>565981992I'm gonna hope someone uploads a lora of the character so I can make my own slop. Surely after she comes out right?
>>565982150>she was a fan favoriteBased on?
>>565982607Based on this dick retard
>>565982278what is a 'lora'? you need like a webm or something?
I think this was a bad auto run
>>56598292790% of my delegate runs are like this on the first elite
HDMI sex
>>565983079desu I just picked an awful chaos cause I wanted to see how it wentCan't heal at rest places
What's the difference between counseling them and wiping their memories?
>>565982607Diddyblud delusions of course
>>565983451If you get a good deck while that agent is in deep trauma mode then mindwiping deletes that good deckCounseling lets you access the locked decks
New 9/9 boss was surprisingly easy to medal.
>>565983918Doesn’t count if you used HDMI.
My veronica and nine hit for so little in sortie
Imagine playing since launch and still missing them both and Magna
>>565984481Nine feels really weak in sortie without a specific deck and teammates. Health Bars are so huge and damage seems so weak. Will probably be less awful with more upgrades though.
Relative newfag, how am I doing?
>>565985413>Newcutie>E2 Heid with partnerWhale-sama...
>>565983918Wow took me 5 turns. These guys are easy.
>>565985538I used the thing for the shop for one of them and just got really lucky and pulled her twice before soft pity both times.
>>565985413whaleGOD.....
>>565985557Yeah but the first boss required you to kill him with a persona card which required a specific deck.This time you needed only 2 engraved gear equipped.
Is therapy always just pick left?
>>565985694>first boss required you to kill him with a persona card which required a specific deckOh shit I have absolutely no Persona card that damage shim. And often times Heidemarie overkills.
>everyone wasted all their pulls on the limited now no one will roll for the loli>devs will see that lolis don't sell and will proceed to never make them again
>>565985827I used this persona card.Hit for 10k total after critting.
>people didn't get baited the first time>had to repost it with an avatar this timewhat a sad existence
>>565985986Actually I have over 40 rolls left and the banner will force the rate up unit in 52. I WAS rolling for Heidemarie but I had a leftover dupe thing and this season will give another one in next part. I'll use those to take her to E2 and roll the loli in her rate-up
How is she...?
>>565986307Pretty fucking bad
>>565986307Probably the best of the pre-Narja characters.
>>565986478Haru exists though
What's this used for?
>>565986307Sub-DPS that rewards multi-hitting with high damage. Got buffed sometimes and a psychopath was beating Distortion bosses with her last season.The main problem is that the same tended to punish high hit count by Season 2. Not sure how good she is right now since everyone is building around Heidemarie.I used her in Sortie and her damage was good. Main problem is her Binds block AP generation from other units (likely to avoid people exploiting her with Mika)
>>565986307She is 1 other character away from doing busted combosOn her own she is ok.
>>565986645She can also be a pure support. Bound at Dusk can play an ally's 9+ cost card for free.
>>565986598Last upgrade of potential skills which is usually crit rate and crit damage for dps.Buy it if you can.
>>565986419skirrru issue desu wa
>Take random child>Send her to fight otherworldly abominations that deal sanity damage during her formative yearsSurely this can't be legalShe's going to end up traumatized for life with stunted growth
>>565980068any help?
>>565987063The new 4pc discard set + 2pc crit damage
>>565986947I kneel
>>565980068HDMI is extremely flexibleHDMI+Chizuru+... cassius I think it is? HDMI+Selena+HugoHDMI+Tiph+OrleaShe has like 15 teams I can't recall them all who do you have?
>>565987027She's asking for it.
>>565986947Chizuru and Rin are huge "Only if you know what you're doing" characters thoughSuggesting them to newbies is going to give them nightmares
Fucker killed my run
>Sword Rain for 5 Blades in graveayard>Selene hits each timeI think I get it now
>>565986947>>565987561Got decks? Cause I got both Rin and Chizuru
>>565987724She and if you put Nia's Adagio that discard 1 then draws 2 of a combatant with Sword Rains with attunement, you can easily fill your hand, use all those cards and the one Sword Rain with the 5 blades epi will likely be drawn and activate them right after.Shit is crazy. We are totally getting Macro Cosmos'd next season.
I've been playing Diablo 4 all day.I'm so tired.
>>565987724how does that one work
>>565985596How? I just did 70 rolls on her banner and I have like 20/400 for a dupe? Whale sama...
>>565987952I don't even wanna know what getting Macro Cosmo'd means.>>565988068Put 5 blades in the graveyard then cast Sword Rain that cast all of those while the enemy has Mark. I assume Concurrent Attack work just as well, if not better, but this Selene I got only has Marking.
someone said something about Haru eating a mattress the other day and gave me an idea. how'd it turn out?I have no idea how to do her hair or how to turn the bed into her dessert table.
>>565985413>>565985538It's the minimum any new player should have? You've been horribly mismanaging your pulls and currencies if you think it looks special.You have the shop currency to get her partner for free and the game gives you tons of pulls.Looks like a completely normal roster for someone who started when Nine comes out who just pull planned relatively optimally
>>565987741sorry for phone quality, I'm in bedthe main thing to make Rin broken this patch is this "treat as a common card - draw common card" divinefor mika get +draw on water if you can
>>565988554Okay? Do I look like I'm bragging or something? I'm still new to the game and don't really know what I'm missing.
>>565987952>attunement sword rainYou shouldn't have any of those if you're commiting to the sword rain with activate. All you need is 1 Effulgent Expansion that puts 6 blades in your discard.
>>565988441Fucking LMAOThough it is kinda hard to tell right away that it's Haru, but not sure she has any obvious signifiers beyond her anchor and being FAT
>>565988374YGO anti-meta trap card that causes everything that’s got to the Graveyard to get banished instead.Since the Graveyard in YGO ranges from a huge resource pile to a second hand, that cripples a crapton of decks.
>>565988575Don't you wanna make the oni hunt -1 cost?>>565988648I was explaining to the other guy, newretard
>>565988575Thanks!
>>565988706You shouldn't have quoted me then, oldtard.
I need help.I'm a returning player, did alright when the game launched, but now am getting filtered.Especially when that fucking big armor guy shows up, he smacks the filter onto me real hard.
>>565988706sure its not a perfect deck by any means just to deck the job done
>>565988854how are you getting filtered in chaos as a returner like what is actually killing you
>>565988695Ah, good old Rest in Peace.Sorry, my cardboard crack was MTG before it turned (extra) unbearably gay
>>565988854post your team
>>565988441Lol
>>565988976The shield guy that almost one hits me if I deal too many consecutive attacks, for example.>>565989148Nia, Diana and HDMI.First stage, let's see how it goes.
Playing StS2 all day made me realize Czn is worse in all aspects.I'm so tired.
>>565988854Your Zero System got reseted. Go upgrade it.
How do I block all their posts so I stop taking mental damage?
>>565988817
>>565989465Your 4chan X branch of choiceMake sure to pick hide stubs so you don't end up with a bunch of stubsThen just hit [-] on sightIf you're feeling like you want to put some extra effort then you can try to report before hiding
>>565989284Fun stuff.
>>565988441perfect
>>565989802>picking a fight with rare species like that
Is the only CC for this game seriously WG?
>>565989284>>565988854Whenever I'm doing chaos I just do this as the easiest, laziest way to wheelchair a 3rd character to a clear.If my 3rd is a damage dealer then I'll likely do Tiph/Vero or Mika/Vero but if my 3rd is a support then something like Sereniel/HDMI plus Mika/Tiph is better since I'll need more oomph.
>>565989968were you born retarded or was it an acquired condition?
>>565989968He's a liar and said that we're guaranteed to get all of our cards by the end of a run. Just finished an auto delegation and never got my fucking Adagio
>>565989968retard
>>565990241>>565989968buy an ad already you 2view grifter
WG rocks tbhwy
>2view grifterBut enough about KWABtontas!
Is the little icon you get showing your next area in any way representative of what you might get there, in particular for ? events?
>>565989968>>565990241least obvious samefag
>>565990637Retarded schizobro...
>anons happily discussing the game while helping newbies and the asspie desperately trying to bait with random youtubers and other gamesWhat causes this mental illness
>>565990241you can buy an item in the sortie store for like 600 black mass that will add any missing cards
>talking about influencers
https://gamewith.jp/gamedb/11694/articles/57005
>>565990809congratulations, you know how to edit html
>>565990857There's nothing you can buy to replace the missing braincells of retards that get all their opinions and thoughts from youtubers and chatgpt though
>>565990848Is it considered desperate if it's working? It's the retards that keep replying to bait that are at fault.
>>565990953>>565990974>Being this mad
>>565990902nothing new besides them saying Heidemarie has gapmoe as part of her design
Mind status?
>>565991070You can see it cycle through baits and samefag itself until something sticks so yeah I'd say it's pretty desperate. No idea why creatuers like these exist on this site, it's such a sad way to live.
>>565991231Horny
>>565991481When will we get another charm agent like Nia?
Czn not being on Steam will lead to its downfall. So many people don't know shit about this game purely because it's stuck on Stove.Imagine CN chuds wanting to play on PC, but are forced to download gook spyware. The audacity on SG needs to be studied.
>>565991538Rina is charmalso Tenebria will maybe be charm
>>565991753Tenebria was always evil bitch so her having a charm mindbreak doesn't seem fitting
>>565991646no one cares about steam, sorry to break it to you
>loses 3 sorties in a row in the first areaI need to start pulling 5* partners I guess, but I don't know how sustainable that actually is for f2p. DPS characters at a minimum are going to need the stats going forward.
>>565991895This is only because Steam isn't even a choice bwo...
>>565991961skill issuedsortie is about your choices not your stats since it literally doesnt count your frags
>>565991810maybe she gets off on the chaos since she is the messiah cultist
>>565975023Magna is ridiculously good in sortie
>>565991961Actually you just need to build up those tactical upgrades, retard. You're trying to clear hard content while missing out on like 50% total damage, healing, and HP.
>>565991961No, you just suck, now THAT'S a hard to swallow pill. You're doing something morbidly wrong if you feel the need to pull 5* partners of all things.
>>565992068>sortie is about your partners and dupes since it literally doesnt count your fragsftfy
>>565992172>Hit hardest difficulty>Lose>Blame game instead of selfA tale older than time
Magna is so good in sortie, didn't even need to bring a healer.
>>565991961What sortie difficulty re you running?Keep in mind this is a mode that was designed to last at least 6 months for the normal player.Level 65 with optional hardcore for the weekly 3 tokens is enough until you buy stat upgrades.
>>565992125You would really not be surprised how many idiots went straight to diff V and got fucked sideways
>>565992423One IV HC run with 3 exchanges is enough for 5 gambling orbs which is great for me. That means I can get 5 orbs a day but maybe I should be farming fragments instead of feeding my gambling addiction.
>>565992125So I will be able to clear HC stage 30 with E0 and 4* partners when I have all the upgrades? Seems unlikely if I can't clear HC with half of them.
>>565992795people like you are why gachas never get any hard or challenging content
>>565992795>Can't clear +0 HardcoreScrub-kun...
>>565992795You are the reason gacha games have tutorials made for toddlers.
sortie is a whale check, am i right bwos?
>>565992895Gacha games are well known for making money by convincing people that swiping=skill
>>565991961Yeah I wont lie, Sortie does feel like it panders heavily to 5* partners.Since memory frags don't carry over, whatever stats partners provides are that much more important, alongside their ego skill.
you could have E6 Heide and still wont clear sortie if you're too retarded to play
Then again you really don't have to complete sortie.All you need to do is go through its checkpoints, spend your 60 stamina and then you can fuck off.There is no bigger reward for beating the last boss.
>>565992795Depends on the character/strategy really. Tank strats are being shown to be extremely strong and can roll over +30 with the right cards/items due to how buffed some of the shield generation stuff is. Also a lot of characters don't get a crazy boost from ego/partner. Of course then there's some characters that really need E2 to work well, and specifically HDMI who has the dumbest level of chaos power specifically from her E6.
>>565993293CZN is hilarious in that regard, it's like the worst gacha to swipe for "skill" since you actually have to know how to play the game.
>>565993706You spend stam at bosses, and you get 10 stam back at the end for every boss you killed. So sure you could kill the first boss and spend 60 stam 3 times, you would lose 60 stam doing that though.
realistically what am I supposed to upgrade first in the sortie shop besides the fate/agent rerolls
>>565993852Plus the relative strength of dupes isnt really that crazy. Theres SOME that are but most of them are just kinda neat.
What exactly says I can or can not engrave a persona card with a specific engraving?
>>565993894For the advanced ones? I like the breakdown recovery chance and heal at checkpoint.
>>565993856So just some stamina efficiency.Then Sortie is more than fine.Besides you can just play easier difficulties and get a pretty similar amount of black mass.It really isn't a big deal whatsoever.
>>565994294Yeah I mean as far as being able to clear +30 because of being a whale goes, +30 is an area where you can definitely just lose to bad RNG, and that will probably cancel out most of the efficiency gained from running +30. If you want to be consistent doing +12 is probably best, the jump from 12 to 18 is pretty big.
>>565993327Yeah, exactly. People will realize it eventually, but I guess everyone is defensive about Sortie because it's actually fun kek.Or maybe they are coping with their bad rift scores by calling that the whale mode.
>>565987436i have everyone except, kayron, luke, magna and rita.how many teams do we need? just 2? i also have a e2 sereniel.
>>565994030The role icons above the engrave, and probably other factors like whether it would only work on an attack or skill.
>>565994521Don't EVER reply to me again with your stupid fucking takes. You don't know the what you're even talking about.You can fuck off with your whole thing about "defensive about Sortie" literally no one's being defensive, but you're too delusional to realize.
>>565994801Right now the only thing where you need specific teams is the all out attack event, where I would recommend using her for colossus as HDMI + Orlea + Tiphera. Outside of that it would be for tower, where you can use her to babysit others to 150.
>>565982927HP is way too low, did you take every -max or something? I haven't failed an auto ever since I always add a pure healer with decent HP pieces.
>>565978873hmm what do the teddys mean? :D
>>565995317I'll reply to you however I damn well please, faggot.
>>565975023They should be using this specifically to give an incentive to use weaker combatants.What I'd propose:Each character on the Drafted combatants list has a reward "pot". At the end of the week, everyone who completed a run with X combatant as 1st or 2nd choice splits that pot, the portion they get modified by their highest difficulty tier completed.So Rin and Renoa's end of week resource payout would inevitably be a lot higher than Heidemarie's.
>>565996047Sort of like a bounty system, sounds like it would be pretty fun.
>>565996047Sort of like a bounty system, sounds like it would be pretty ass.
Is Janet better than max duped Akad for Renoa? I don't have Serithea or her sig.
>>565996374No.
>>565996047Sort of like a bounty system, sounds like it would be pretty average
>>565993706Every drafted combatant can increase your black mass payout 5% so the biggest payout possible would always be the last boss if you have up to an extra 20% from the team you picked along the way. Assuming you're not fucking around and picking HDMI to start the first opportunity to cash out would only be 5-10% boosted dependig on your team mate, etc.
>>565996374Just do some math nigga
this game still has no fanart
>>565989181>>565988689>>565989819I'm glad you like it. I worked on it a bit more, but wasn't really sure how to go forward.
I turned on that synchronization thing on the event Chaos and what the fuck everything feels smoother now, is this the effect of having upgraded memory fragments? Why do they feel SO much stronger than my own normal version? They're even under leveled compared to the chaos level?
>>565996956forgot how zoomed in I was to work on it. I tried to resize it with a free photo editor. I've no clue if it will work.
>>565997012>is this the effect of having upgraded memory fragments?Yeah.Just having +5 fragments with right main stat which is piss easy to get is a huge power spike.
>>565997012Synchro gives pretty good memory frags and full potential unlock, and you can use a level 58 5* E0 partner.
How many girls can you synchro summon at once?
>>565996956>>565997308Good OC takes flashes of brilliance, not really something you can force. I do like this one though because it made something funny out of Haru's whole character being her eating disorder.
I've been very happy with Magnas results when it comes to sortie.Just a very good sustain, better than Mika.>>565996658I will say the leveling is extremely ridiculous.Do you get drastically more EXP in the harder difficulties.Getting to 61 was pretty quick, but lvl 62 seems like a BUNCHC of fucking runs.Then again I wonder how impactful 2 levels would even be.
>Magna counterattacks for 1600 damageI have no idea what I'm doing
If you use lvl 61+ characters you didn't beat the game.
Rin / Magna Sortie V HC Risk 4 winI got so fucking lucky i got the Fate card that hit the enemy 6 times for 0 with Retain and my last boss was the wolf.Holy fuck that was so close.
This is probably the best deck I can get without super sweating, worth spending my deck editing items on? Though I don't think I can get more of the adagio divines, can I? Not when I already have that other one in it. Or does the Persona card eat up so much save data that I can't even have a third Adagio divine?
>>565986307>>565988575>the main thing to make Rin broken this patch is this "treat as a common cardThis seems like it would also be busted on any character who wants four 0 cost move or create cards, for example the Oni Hunt which makes two moonslashes it would be busted.Speak of the moonslash build, does sword rain which activates 5 in graveyard proc Chizu chuu's shadow of the moon stacks / willow wisps? Would be pretty insane if it did. with E2 Chizu you would get one full lv5 shadow of the moon per turn with 4 copies of sword rain.
Finally got the brick.
>>565996942Chink games and BA literally pay artists for it under the table, it's a pretty open secret which is why every fucking fanartist is always drawing some FOTM gacha character.
>>565998227It probably does, but getting a Hunt Commence or 3 extra attacks from Selena per sword is probably higher damage, especially with engravings and personas allowing you to get massive amounts of flat generic damage amount that scales those extra attacks.
>>565998129It'll stop you.180 is the limit, you've already hit the limit.
>>565996942I feel like I've seen a big uptick in fanart since half anni. Montblanc's drawings are pretty great.
>>565998129If you want 4 divine adagios + all basics removed, then that is exactly 180 memory. So yes, having divines elsewhere + a persona card will prevent you.
Adel drip this week or next?
>>565998651I feel like the persona is worth losing 1 divine.
>>565998656Probably a week before the mayor's longass banner ends.
>>565998351There's nothing stopping you from playing her with Selena, I think E2 Chizu might outscale Hugo because while every hit of commence the hunt will hit at max stacks on the first sword rain, you might get cucked on draw and end up with not enough skill cards to get back there again before every consecutive sword rain.Chizu could also practically run with a 1 card deck with retain to not clog up the turn draw, since you'll only have shadow of the moon if you run Karmic/Inhibit/Oni upgrade versions. Might be worth a try.
>>565998721Well, if you feel that way then at least use some meme orbs to give a non divine epi to that soul riff & 3rd adagio.
>>565998656You'll get it a day before the banner AND LIKE IT
Is there a way to reduce a character's faint memories while in the middle of a run?
>>565998972NTA, sorry I just meant a persona in general assuming you can get a good one, idk about that one specifically.I've been a big fan of the double activate on discard draw 2.
>>565999231Remove non-starter cards with divines, or neutrals.
How many pulls do you losers have left over.
>>565999330Damn, I gotta keep better track of my memories, I was way over.
>>566001159110 banner, 10 standardTheoretically infinite if I don't have enough for something I want.
>>566001349>infiniteWhatever you say poorfag
Divine decks are so easy to make now with PoE orbs but all I do is sortie so there's no point making them...
>>566001605I thought it gave you a random divine though, not a specific one? So you have to fish for +AP or Draw if you want it. I haven't actually used my editing items though so I wouldn't know.
>>566001565Well I guess it's finite sure, but so is the amount of pulls you need to max everything, and it takes less than I could spend in theory to do that.
>>566001159331
>>566001687Yeah there's a fair amount more than 8 divines in the pool, so it's better to get the divine you want on the wrong base epiphany and dupe it then change the epiphany for 8k black mass each than it is to get the right base epiphany and then roll divines 1k black mass at a time.
>>566001687If you get a wrong divine, you can use another orb, and generic ones like +AP or Draw 1 are very common so unless you're aiming a divine that's specific to one God, you wouldn't be using more than 5 orbs per card.
>>566001159600 limitedall characters and partners with dupes as 100% F2P>>566001565Literally infinite. I'm also wealthier than you will ever be.
>>566001687>>566001852Here >>56594480For reference there's 6 out of 27 chance that you'll get a Draw 1 Divine on Mika Source of Water.
I assume its just the whales with any pulls leftover.Narja came after Sereniel came out and was her main support.I feel like the loli will be the undisputed best support for HeidemarieNia will probably be relegated over to stay strictly with Renoa and Diana.
>>566001159~20 Day 1 player Pulled everyone and some dupes plus partners. >e2 haru >e2 sereniel >sereniel, hdmi, narja, and Rita partner I took about a month off at the end of s3 after pulling Rita.
I bet a lot of you losers haven't cleared tower 150 yet.If you want to stop being a shitter then I can help with that with my vast knowledge on Czn.
>>566002163retard
>>566002920i'd rather kill myself than ever take advice from you kroni
>>566002495>after Rita Don’t blame you, out of any unit in the game I regret pulling her the most.She literally does not function at E1 she is functionally broken
>>565986128I used this, hit for about the same. Honestly quite a strong card.
>>566002141I've used like ~20 of the divine orbs and gotten draw 1 2 times I think, idk if it works exactly like that.Also not sure what you're trying to link to.
For my fellow mobile CHADSif you encounter the tentacle dude while on auto you need to close the game and then reopen it.
Surely??
>>566004120On Source of Water? That's remarkably unlucky.You can check the list of all possible Divine for each card here: https://cznmetadecks.com/buildDon't forget to uncheck "Match select god" and exclude the sortie effects.
>>565975023What does the drafted even mean or change?
>>566004357SmileGOOK is too retarded to make this game the global phenomenon it could easily be.
>>566004357stop embarrassing yourselfit'll never go on steam simply because there's no demand for it, steamjeet
>>565975409
>tfw markeded
>>565983918Not really, regular engravings don't count and you need the +1 lux or umbra ones on 3 combatants, so it means making 3 new decks
>>566004762>regular engravings don't countAh didn't know that.
>>566004646This isn't the proof you think it is.
>>566004906It might work if you do it with 3x persona cards with 2 engravings, I don't know. I did it twice on 9/9 with all combatant running 3 buff engravings and nothing
>>566004646The suits would look at this and say the biggest growth potential is in the pc market
>>566004646I would play it on PC if I did not have to use that shitty launcher
>>566003081you have everyone too? i guess this is the power of day1 + luck. i got 0 crystals left but i also quit after pulling tiphera.
>>565974780anyone tried to make a max Ego build yet?I wonder if its feasible to endlessly draw cards from ego skills alone.>>565989802I don't even remember what their gimmick is, but they shouldn't hit that hard, at least not in turn 1. Check their description maybe its one of those enemies that change action depending on your action. Remember to eat before chaos, check your zero system upgradesYou are probably underleveled or taking bad chaos run debuffs.Also you might just want to avoid the fight, its probably not worth it anyway.If this is a max chaos level run, you also only have to do it once for that clear, no need to get style points
>>565976975Holy shit I dodged a bullet. My stance on never buying early access game is being rewarded.
>>565976975i don't get the hype around sts? sts1 was cool as my first deck builder, but once i played chrono ark i preferered that due to visualize and style. and then CZN is just more of that but with new content all the time?
Stage 4 Modifier wasn't as hard as I dreaded, and I managed it without getting many cards for my carry, got really unlucky with drops and shop refreshes. Might be able to do stage 8 if I can actually get my fucking cards to drop.
>>565976975I tried STS1 after a few months of CZN and couldn't see the appeal.I beat my first run which was probably not that hard anyway. The graphics, everything about it is very dated like flash tier.Maybe its just a general rougelike fatigueThe only takeaway for me was how much shit CZN stole without making sense of it, like that trash equipment piece that gives 200% shield in turn 2. It's decent in STS because it doesn't use a slot and blocking is way more important.>>566004646I would use both but my account is probably locked to google
>>566007126>guilty pleasure>guilty pleasureBeryl going in chaos like>Commander, I brought two chocolate bars
Answer wisely
>>566007812Orlea easily, transport fucking sucks and is made for sleeping through it
>>566007812easy 1
>>5660078124 obviously for some of those weird peach colored dumplings
>>566007709To be fair, that's the best I could ask for on the 4th character. Just free draws.
>>566007812Where is the seat next to Tiph?
>can't get achievements from seasonal chaos via auto modeOne step forward, 2 back with these devs
>>566007812Marie would probably be annoying as she would likely scream out of nowhere having nightmaresRita would watch you sleep which would be fucking uncomfortableNia will be blasting her loud ass music or plays her guitar while you're trying to fucking sleepFuck Haru I wouldn't want my seat to smell like fucking food while I'm trying to fucking sleepOrlea's probably snores loudly and would be annoying as fuckVeroniga's hamster would be fucking around and shit and would be fucking annoyingfucking none I'm sleeping on the fucking floor
>>566002163who even plays narja with sereniel this sounds like a meme. rei is better.
>>566008368homo.
yahalloo. what's the best persona card for Rin?
>>566007812>a dork>a weirdo talking about occultist shit like fate and stuff>a noisy squeaker>a schoolgirl with snacks that will probably leave messy crumbs>a nun that's gonna snore and drool for the entirety of the trip>another squeaker but with an equally squeaky hamsterI guess I'll take my chances with the dork.
>>5660078126 to spit roast Veronica with Mr. Kowalski!
What makes you think that Orlea snores? She sleep-talks at worst. You sit next to her and either go to sleep or let your hands wander.5 is objectively the best seat.
>>566009350Hasn't she almost killed the Captain in her sleep during one of those therapies?
>>566007982thisbut if the devs ask me I will say anything else because Orlea is a boring slog to play and her design is just a generic blonde nun.
do the devs even know how many crystals they're giving out in the policy office? it's a lot. it makes no sense.
>>566007812Feeding Haru until she can't fasten her seat belt.
>>566008743IMO it's either discard 2 to get a 60% buff or the attack card that inflicts death brand.
don't open
>>566010195The legendary Chizuru, Nia and Yuki combo...
>>566009350uhh she'd likely unconsciously grab or twist your cock in the middle of the night while she’s asleep I don't think you want that
>>5660047625 chaos runs later and I haven't even seen a +1 lux or umbra engravingThis achieve might be worse than ANY in s2 including the judgement sword one
>>566010195>Passion LukeVGH what could've been...
>>566010001>on average like 20 a dayIt aint that much. I managed to get a 30 crystal policy today but that's it.
>>566010195Nia is always in this shitAnd honestly they are right (for high difficulty content)She's kinda boring to run chaos with though
>>566009593She's not generic though? Disheveled hair and not very holy behaviour already makes her different enough
>>566010679Sleepy sluts is a trope yeah but I've never seen a sleepy slutty nun
>>566007812couldn’t decide between between 1 and 5 but I remembered Orlea’s whole thing is side boob. front row seat to her titties peeking out while sleeping. im going with 5
>>566002005REI LOVE
>>566004646This is an argument for a steam release brainlet...
>>566011726This slut is in charge of security for the concert
>>566010679the 'unholy' nun has become just as common with the gooner'net.Nun in general has become more of a fetish category than anything else.The sleepy part is just a flavor. She could just as well be a foodie or yandere or a tease.
>>5660078126 and pet Vero all day
>>566007812None of the above. I will sit with my wife Renoa as we drive the train.
>insta quit chaos if cthulu weapon doesn't dropnice game
>>566011948This except my orb
>>566011948>need to min max to clear contentskull issue
>>566011948Retard
>Sortie tournamentDo we really
good to know that I'm in the right
>>566011948There's blue weapons that can be better
>>566012567Yes it's fun to watch
>>566011809so why is this her lobby
Just made a Rei of Light deck (6 Lux) and this thing is pretty good. +240% and potentially 2 morale, really nice for multihit cards.
>>566012567>>566012890Are there any infos who is participating?WG, Nesha and Kozmic are the ones I know of
>>566012567are they banning HDMI?
>>566013120That one is removed when activated anon.... You'll want this one because it lasts for the entire turn.
>>566013371Here's the ruleshttps://page.onstove.com/chaoszeronightmare/en/view/13232064
I got this error when I tried to play on my laptop, it seems that Stove launcher and the czn app doesn't connect to each other.Does anyone here get the same problem when playing with different/multiple devices?
>>566013469
Who would win the /czn/ sortie tournament?
Ill admit im bad at the game But is the first nebula distortion boss kinda hard? I cant even beat 6/9
>RNG mode tournamentwho cares lmao
>>566013589The one with E6 Heide
Who are we cheering on?
>>566013409Yeah, this effect is nice too, but you can't get it on a Skill card. Lux Blessing is more of a sidegrade than a downgrade. Usually you'll boost damage with it, but sometimes the healing boost might be helpful.
>>566013521Nope. CZN works fine in PC, iphone and ipad for me
>>566013684What team?
>>566013684It's hard if you don't have action delays, if you do then it's pretty easy
>>566013684Just send the tactical (ass)nuke
>>566013840Im using hdmi nia and veronica I can almost get it after a few resets but it hits pretty hard. My nia deck isnt very good though. That'll be my next thing to work on.
>>566013684The hardest part of this boss is after you bring him low enough to trigger his attack every turnIf you want to turtle you need to workaround that. Heidemarie can cheese him easily with some specific buildJust use the generate blades+6 and don't bring him low until you can oneshot him. Its pretty easy with external buff+your ego skill+equipment
>>566013890Ahhhhh that makes a lot of sense. I might try for those when I build my nia. Good idea. >>566014012That's also a good idea plus I kinda wanna build the scaling HDMI set. Im doing the 5 graveyard blades one right now without the big attack.
>>566013409The increased damage amount is team wide?
>>566013712The only honest voice in the gacha space, GODtontas of course!
>>566014156Yeah, with two of those in a team you can get this.
>>566013521>>566013808Found the cause, the laptop antivirus disrupting launcher’s internal startup/injection process, apparently Stove is detected as malware injector.
>>566014012Lol I just facetank him with Diana bullet spam and let Nia heal me.
>>566014458I had the same issue when I first installed, which makes sense because I also thought it was when I saw the fucking AI lion holding somebody’s credit card
>>566013046thanks for reminding us, she isn't even sleepy just lazy>>566014545>facetank himyou were 1 card away from dying>>566014012doesn't every fucking boss have some kind of damage stacking like morale, making it impossible to delay for more than a few turns and generally fuck over defensive play.
is it just me or did they make sortie way easier
>>566014938>you were 1 card away from dyingAnd one crit from killing him with previous move.
>still can't clear HC IVI don't know why, but during the buffed version of the nihlium dog, some of my cards started getting cost increases, and I didn't know whyFuck it i'll just stick with nightmare
>>566015705because the buffed versions have modifiers and that's one of them? holy readlet
So is Sortie good or not
>>566015783I tried reading it but I couldn't find the one causing it, unless I missed the deep void description text.Then again I was doing this at 4am
>>566015705On hardcore the three the bosses have modifiers. Some are eh and some can gape your run
how do I 9/9 full scale
>>566015705heavy modifier increases a random card cost by 1 every turn iirc
>>566016052DianaSenmetsuNine/HDMI
>>566015705Magna is fotm
>after 6 months Magna finally found her niche
>>566015830It is fun enough, I'll probably do it regularly until I get bored of it in 2-3 weeks.
>>566015830Good but boring, it's already showing its wear after a week.
Is this persona card good?Should I copy the dagger and change the Shadow reload into the exhaust version?
>>566016894Should have picked a heavy hitting base persona card when going for multy hit.It's decent enough.
>>566016894>750% x 5Damn wtf, that's pretty cool lolI don't know how to help you because I haven't touched her since the rework. Your goal should absolutely be getting 20 Agony as soon as possibleignoring Tressa the other characters could get the Agony Epis, then theres the fire sword applying it too, and then I guess drawing your entire deck too to cast it every turn
>>566017096Well since tress can prints agony like no tomorrow I think I can get like 900+ multi on each hit or something
>>566017181So I'm thinking like, Curse = 8 agony, create 6 shadow dagger then eat it with this Shadow reload for another 14 agony, maybe use her ego beforehand for 2 more agony and 2 dagger
>>566017340You can also use this on a support (must be Controller)it would be +150% on each hit for an additional 750% but this works better on HDMI because she hits 20 times instead of just 5and also you have the issue of AP costs because this also has to be cast manually so mehmaybe find ways to stack morale. look into cassius
>>566015830It's ok, I'm uninstalling
>>566016894Imo:Delete 2 basicsCopy 2 UnsheathesChange Reload epi into the one that transforms daggers into advanced daggersChange vital epi into the one that does increased damage based on agony stacksBut that's a lot of editing for a brick
>>566019106>editingif he wants to follow your advice he should just re-farm the deck
>>566019106At that point just build a new deck lolI think just 6 dagger plus Curse is enough for the persona cardGonna try to remake this deck in chaos without basic
>>566019309Sure>just 6 dagger plus Curse is enoughMaybe but advanced daggers do increased damage for each stack and can do like 250% at max I think, it's worth considering
For rei do I take the draw and 1 morale Persona card?
6 hours later....it's doneThis one was S2 tier grindyI even had to sacrifice a perfect HDMI deck with 3 draw effulgentNow I have both achievements done early and can go shower
>all asians in the leaderboardkek
>>566019958wut
>>566013684HDMI can solo it on auto lol
>>566018927Narja sex
HDMI makes me feel like I'm in heat
Heidebunda on my face
>>566020012What Leaderboard?
>>566020347Your HDMI might be not working and become a fire hazard anon, be careful.
>>566020439Sortie tournament for content creators
>>566020478Her libido is very NTR coded.
>>566020512damn that's a big lead
>>566020478I put my HDMI to good use
>>566014116this is my "vine camouflage" of s3
>>566020512>using Tiphera after having a panic attack about her pantieslmao
everyone uses Tipherashe's the town bike
>>566021120STFU Renoa
Are previous seasons worth doing or does new season shit make older decks obsolete? I want to have comfy self paced exploration with s1 and s2 decks but...
whats the meta for Sortie
>>566021614Generally no, only in edge cases>I want to have comfy self paced exploration with s1 and s2 decks but...What do you mean by this?
>>566021614Nia + Eternal Hunger is literally the best deck cycling machine in the game
>>566021614The only content you can do with old decks is tower and basin, but if you feel like you really want to build an old seasonal in their proper season's content, then you could?
>>566020478Yep I’m fucking the Mayor
Is Khalipe worth grabbing with the ticket if I don't have her? I have every character but her and Kayron.
>need to level Renoa from the 10 pull reroll event>need to level Chizuru and her partner from the selectorSortiebros, go on without me...
>>566021809Yes she is good in Sortie
>>566021809Better units you don’t have than dupes (unless limiteds)Better Khalippe than Kayron
The only two characters I don't have are Rita and Haru, so which should I pick up with my card? I don't know anything about how either of them play really. Otherwise I could get Mei Lin e4 or Kayron e2.
Do the rewards is Sortie increase by floor or are they all the same?
>>566021660Bee urself
>>565972598Is the game good? How intrusive are gacha elements? Will i be drowning in the endless exp/material w/e dungeons or i can get to playing the actual game relatively fast?>t. Chrono arc player
>>566022028I've got:>Hugo E4>Veronica E6>Orlea E1>Mei Lin E1>Rin E1>Yuki E1>Sereniel E2>Nine E2Everyone else is E0, and I don't own Khalipe or Kayron.
>another newcutie
>>566022135Haru is all about using her anchor shot and drawing it with anchor pointer.Rita is about spending AP every odd turn to get extra 6 AP exclusively for Rita every even turn.She can be played as main dps or sub dps.
>>566022330YES TAKE KAHLIPE SHE IS A VERY CUTE BEAR MOMMY WHAT ELSE DO YOU NEED
Finally unlocked Blue Pot level 30 after playing for almost 6 months so I can get Heidemarie's BiS trinket in other chaos lmao
>>566022374Hi :3
>>566022330I would kill to have hugod e4
>>566022330Kayron is the stronger pick but Khalipe is probably more useful in sortie
>>566022253>Is the game good? Kinda.>How intrusive are gacha elements?New units are shilled during their patches and rolling for them will make your experience way less miserable.>Will i be drowning in the endless exp/material w/e dungeons or i can get to playing the actual game relatively fast?You'll have to indulge material farm from day one to EoS because everything is extremely expansive, but the game, in some modes, allows you play non-upgraded combatants.
>>566022253Most gacha players dropped this game because there is too much gameplay.So take it as it is.
>>566022253>Is the game good?Yes>How intrusive are gacha elements?Barely noticeable>Will i be drowning in the endless exp/material w/e dungeons or i can get to playing the actual game relatively fast?No but it isn't too bad
>>566022253They released a very heavily CA-inspired gamemode a few days ago and you can play it and the seasonal deckbuilder as soon as you unlock them thanks to the game leveling and equipping your characters for freeBut you do have to grind a lot for other gamemodes
>>566022253>>t. Chrono arc playerthe new mode that they added is based on chrono ark (instead of starting with a full team you grab teammates along the way)
>>566022253Save your sanity and keep playing Chrono Ark.
>>566022836>For free>Look inside>Stamina needed
>>566022632>>566022750>>566022836>>566022910thanks, also read guide in the opi guess its worth a try>need to install yet another launcherstove is the only way, i assume?
>>566022953Stamina recharges for free last I checked
>>566022982You could install an emulator, but I think it's worse than Stove (which is already a malware).
>>566023003>It's free because the resource is free! >Look inside >It takes time to get stamina >Time is money
>>566022982yes
>>566022982stove is the best launcher thoughbeitever
>>566022982We are all praying for steam asap
>We
>>566022982Just play it on your phone during work hours.
>>566023152People who value their time don't waste it here.
Best build for Bundamarie on Tower?
>>566023301stfu steamjeetstove will devour steam in 2027
Auto always crashed when it encountered octopusFix this shit smilegook
>say my name
Is it worth rerolling or grabbing an account?
>>566023889She looks like she licks homeless' asshole.
>>566023889Built for NTR, got body and smile for it
>>566023994>rerollingIf you have time to spare yeah since now they are giving the most gibs since launch.It takes around 10 minutes to reroll and you can reset your account from ingame options.
>>566015830it's different with more rng, so take your poison>>566019106why bother with vital, it's pretty much a brick these days if you have a persona card that does like 3 times as much damage for 1 less AP. Not sure what's worse vital or curse gouge.I'm not sure if it is even worth amassing Advance Daggers considering how tedious it is. Tressa might be better of as a sub dps, get Curse 1 or 2 and slim her deck then let Sereniel or HDMI build up Agony. HDMI/Diana might even work with Shadow Reload 5.PS. What's wrong with the devs. Vital 1 does more damage than Vital 2 with agony
so is the cunny going to be HDM support?
>>566024574Most likely.
They really need to change out the final boss for the event chaos, because the vast majority of the cast just auto-loses to it during delegation runs even at lower difficulties.
Is this item like a upgraded amphor cube? does it work against bosses too or just elites?
>>566024653Only elite battles so it's trash.
>>566024861damn that sucks
>>566023994Account buying will always be better but riskier since you have to know where to buy and not get scammed but right now is an excellent time to reroll since you can get a god reroll like HDMI+Vero and be set
which persona card for haide, the discard one?
>using nicknames and acronyms on newbabs who have no idea what you're talking about Why are you like this
>>566025246then ask???
>>566025138yeah with these engravings
WHY IS IT NOT WORKING I CANNOT UNDO TURN REEEEEEEEEE
>>566025470Yeah it's bugged in tower too.
which of the three zero upgrades have meditation?
>>566025579Authority Expansion
poggies hand
>>566025675ty
>>566025681NVM was shit had no AP to play everything
>>566025579>>566025792Administrator Mode has "Random Card Copy occurs as Selected Combatant Copy." which is probably more important than meditation imo
>>566024639it's because of the retarded AI focusing the wrong mob
Anyone else playing this game at work?
>>566023889artist?
>>566025895I work from home so most of the time during conference calls.
>>566026124Unfortunately my director is a boomer so I have to work in office. Thankfully I'm in the corner so I can have it going most times.
>>566025470You are now playing COMMITMENT MODE
>those teethis she a rodent
>>566026297No this is.
Why do people use the Finale sword rain instead of just using Release?
>>566024639I had this issue with Rin, until I paired her up with HDMI. She's retard proof for the dumb AI.
>>566026492Artists that draw every character with giant tits are worse than AI
3 HOUR MAINTENANCE SOON WTFFFFFFFFF
>>566025891oh nice. thanks
>>566026630But Vero has big tits.
>>566026630Truth hydrogen bomb
Is sortie a must play
>>566026630So glad that even the dev called out this bullshit, the future of the game is bright
>>566026910Source?
HOLY FUCK CHECK THE PATCH NOTES THESE YUKI BUFFS ARE INSANE
>>566026870Yes but it's an endgame mode so not a priority for newbies
https://x.com/CZN_Official_EN/status/2052021899853766688
>>566026630stove had that art on the launcher btw
>>566026995interview mentioned that they realized they've been releasing nothing but titcows and will try to make different characters in future
>>566026995
>>566027193Define "diverse charms".
3hr maint for partners seems too much, hopefully it addresses the random crashes while in menu
>>566027193flatties will be broken...
>>566027068>about to finish wageslaving and do some sortie runs>game will be down for 3 hours
>>566027160>>566027193Based...
>>566027262lolisflattiesnigressesmonster girls
>>566027437I will cum
>>566027351>3 fucking hoursI thought it was a small patch... What the fuck? I want to play...
>>566027437>lolis>flattiesThis is the same in anime styled games.Tiphera is an adult flattie yet people call her a loli.
>>566027521we're literally getting a loli nexttiph is a JK more or less
>>566027503is she stuck
>>566027583She is just a slow starter
>>566027193I just wish they fixed the veronica mindbreakFlat in literally every piece of OFFICIAL art ever made but somehow looks like she got hit with the breast expansion ray in one (1) mindbreakAt least we're getting more petite characters now so the dark ages are over
AIIIEEE I wanted to burn my stamina before reset.Shouldn't maintenance start in 20 minutes?!?
>>566027640she's not a flattie. look at her front screen in the character details, she has some boobs. you don't really see it because it's covered by her clothes and ballista
>>566027850yeah, RIP
>>566027898yeah eat dickI'm not going to rehash launch era shitposts
>>565998306you merely adopted the brickI was born in it, molded by it
so close yet so farAlso>cannot undo last action or turn when you used a personaepic
>>566028173>>cannot undo last action or turn when you used a personaoh so that's what it is
>>566027850it comes back up before reset, it's not like you have to go to bed or something right
who is winning the 10k smoothie tournament??
I swear I have no idea wtf is going on in the poop emoji fight my decks feel so bad for it
>>566028509how do you not die with sereniel
>>5660284973 random koreans while the retard that keeps shilling his videos here will make 3 more clickbait videos crying about censorship and lolis
>>56602816450/50GOD
>>566028626I die on the last turn after having played my whole turn, so it's okay
>>566027068where the fuck is the alt f4 cthulhu fix smiledicksand the constant crashes
>>566028684I havent crashed since the last hotfixbut yeah the senectus softlock is annoying
>>566028684Irrelevant
>>566028684>Can now see Senectus when he spawns>Get locked anywaynice fix fucking gooks
>>566028509Can I see your Nine, Tiph, Orlea team deck? Mine barely break 900k after retrying multiple times.
I just hope they will remove the stamina cost from sortie with this update.
>>566027521she wears children's underwear do you think thats an accident?
>>566021614Some characters su h as Nia still benefit greatly from previous seasons, but I don't think those decks will be valid for Great Rift. I think devs will allow them but with seasonal cards automatically removed.
>>566029137this is just a bug fix bwo
>>566029137eat shit retard
>Finished my sortie run 2 minutes before the maintenance
>>566028164depressing how mei lin went from a must have character into an actual brick. the game will shut down before they do anything about her spire or elasticity.
thinking about skipping tiph and her partner. people are shilling them too much.
AHHHHHHHGG
>>566029642she requires div epi to be efficient, extremely annoying
>>566029642I dont think she'll end up being that useful desu her deck is clunky and im not sure anyone will find a use for her
>>566029216>02:59:59AHHHHHH
>>566023889The NTRqueen limited
HOW LONG IS THE MAINTENANCE?? I FORGOT TO DO MY DAILIES
>>566029642>>566029739>>566029751retard
>>566029874I knew I liked her for a reason
>>566029751trvke
>>566029081looked into my screenshot folder and I only have my tiphera deck saved, and maintenance is a bitchWhat I can tell you is that the nine deck is just extreme hew with one counterblade 3 and one fatal strike 3, and the orlea deck is just one growing creature 3, one will of light and two growth acceletarion 3 with -1 cost divinenothing special just hew extreme 5 one target every turn and pray for crits.
>>566029932there's always that one retard spewing the dumbest fucking shit or trying to bait with the most retarded shit imaginable
>>566029751nice bait
>>566027437They're missing out for not making the insect queen playable.
>>566027640>>566027553>>566027521>>566027372>>566027274>>566027262Here's the livestreamed part by the way.The developer outright mentions that he is very aware people want more diverse charms instead of just fat cows so hopefully we should start seeing way more diversity starting now
>>566026078@KRDsan
>>566030301Is that the same CEO that forced the shitty launch story?
>having to circle back and upgrade every character's basic card potentials for sortiefeels bad
>>566030461It's barely 50 blue gems since the first 5 are grey materialsThe real kicker is the 25% divine one being locked behind a brick potential for 90% of the charas
>>566030430He's part of the art department
>>566030430That gook is just an artist.
>>566028164what does the number in the white hexagon shape even mean?>>566026630artists that draw every character with fat asses and wide hips are worse than big tit niggers
>>566031035sortie level cap break counter
>>566030174trvkesadly gooks and chinks are subhumans that don't even understand the appeal of lolis, let alone monstergirls
>>566029543idk, mei lin was pretty gay at release and made playing anything else feel bad, her, luke and chizuru should have been reworked alongside tressa and cassius to make elasticity pointless but the devs were afraid of the bad publicity that would bring I guess.People were already made enough at the 4* star nerfs, which is hilarious because they were brainless and annoying decks to play but people pretended to like them because they were the most powerful thing available.
eerm guises why can't i login the game???
>>566031505EOSsorry
>>566031505Emergency I got the major pregnant
>>566031505Tiph's fat ass crashed the servers
>>566031561nyooooooooo
why does this place always seem angry or contemptful when discussing the character design? especially when it's towards large chested women.
>>566031505I discarded a lead cardsorry
>>566031981Because the characters were literally just cowtits up to tiphera and most of them were so bad that you couldn't decide who was worse between their kits or their posters.They only improved on this on S2 which means launch people had to deal with infinite garbage from every side and most people still carry that grudge within them even if they are improving.
>>566031981this game has a very confused identity and people get into it for wildly different reasons, so you'll find negativity about every single aspects of the game from different people that are part of different groups
>>566031981titcow fatigueand we all started this game for meilin
>>566031981Because card games appeal to autists, and most autists are trannies these days. Seeing big boobs makes them feel dysphoric, so they lash out.
>>566032459Mei Lin has fat tits too.
>>566032459Yeah I started this game for Mei Lin and Veronica then the next releases were Haru (Who never got an event or a season lmao), Yuki, Chizuru and then wrapped it up with the rugpull that was Sereniel's giantess tits.Suffering through S1 burned out so many people that it's no surprise why there's so many returners or spiteful/angry people
>>566032721haru got a trauma code which is more than most of the other characters got
>>566032720Mei Lin is fine, she's not small but not big. She's the ideal size then you have shit like Yuki.
>>566024653I think it doesn't even work with elite monsters outside of Chaos (mission fights for example), but I do have a memory og it working against bosses (again, only inside chaos).
I'm glad the titcow fatique was enough to reach the devs. I assume this is why some people like the CN censored designs too, because it adds more clothes/style instead of being a hanime game you can't play in public.
>>566025470Vytor got cucked by the Messiah
>>566031981>>566032270>>566032662These. You don't hear people complaining about fat asses in Nikke or megatits in LO because the devs knew who to target.
Luche when
>>566032984Pretty much, nothing wrong with releasing big breasted characters but people get super fucking fatigued when the only thing they release is that.I'm still somewhat bitter that the shill seasonal character is Heidemarie and not Tenebria but they're making steps to improve and seem willing to so I'll give them a pass
>>566033525next season
luche is a feminist bitch.
>>566033669Saving my cores and rolls to E6 both Luche and Azelante
Please start generating https://civitai.red/models/2596787/heidemarie-chaos-zero-nightmare
>AzelanteWill be partnerified.
>>566033595there's still room for tenebria to be a great character, but she obviously couldn't be the face of the game for this second launch what with being an evil bitch and allhonestly even tenebria feels like she got hit by a breast expansion ray in this game, I remember her being way mode modest. though I guess her wonderland and mare witch alts did have decent boobs, only red tene looked flat.
>>566033824She's in the S4 teaser image for Korea so I'm choosing to believe the devs are aware of her popularity. She was also important lorewise since she's the one that holds a fragment of Diallos powers or Diallos divinity.
>>566033985looks the same to me
>>566033817that's why i can't afford new ram
So this game has the AK build? Roll limiteds and the rest will come home over time?
>>566031981It's a mystery.
>>566033985Tenebria is like Mei Lin size imo but I simply like her character and design a lot more than Heidemarie and have zero interest in getting a singular dupe on her.
>>566034321yeah that's her mare witch alt, but that wasn't her design in most of the story
>>566034615Isn't pink tene a honeytrap specifically crafted by her to fuck you up and the real tene is specter?
>>566034403>DiscordRetard
>>566026856Tsvthnami
>>566034715it's honestly unclear, those parts of the story are very rough and suffered through numerous rewrites. The specter form is never directly relevant in the story as far as I can remember.
>>566034979They rewrote the prologue and added a story in the 6th world where she's using specter exclusively and she switches to specter when getting serious which makes me think specter is her actual demon apostle form and pink tene is her "I'm just fucking around" form to go incognito
>>566034020We want Luche not this handholding slut.
Tenebria and Aria are going to flop
>>566034403This is that faggot shit I just dont understand (well I do understand that AGPs are inherently narcissistic but)What the fuck does that have to do with the post? How the fuck is it even remotely relevant???Imagine planning a vacation with a group and your hispanic friend just shouts out "I'm Mexican!" in exciment of visiting fucking Nebraska.I hate them so much it's unreal
>want the bitch that got fisted by judas
The real reason Tene isn't limited is because they know she's gonna sell purely on expy and nostalgiaHeidemarie doesn't have anything and is a CZN OG so they had to give her the lim tag or else everyone would have skipped her for Tenebria
>>566035117I have a hard time taking epic 6 seriously since it feels like a post hoc patchwork of new ideas trying to make sense of old inconsistencies. It even contradicts previous lore like them using ludwig in that story despite his entire character in the first arc was being the only nocturne to have never participated in the archdemon wars and Kise being extremely protective of him because of that fact.Still, whatever, if that's what they want to go with now sure, I just hope CZN tene doesn't get stuck as an idol.
>>566035409This is CZN relevant because it's talking about the official d*scord btw
When Tenebria mindbreaks she should turn into a normal moe blob female
>>566030301devs also aware that some people want more males lol
>>566035548The whiplash would suck if she goes from evil bitch that ends the world 6 times to happy lovey dovey idolSurely she'll end up being the Messiah and still be the evil bitch everyone loves
LET ME IN! I WANT TO PLAY!
>>566032721Wait I forget the timeline.Season 1 lasted 3 patches right? What were the 3 characters they added? I thought it was Yuki, Sere, and Narja, but I forgot that Chizoro even exists.
>>566035660Not really considering they straight up said "yeah no"
>>566035660Yeah like 10 terminally online people who need to constantly beg for them
>>566035427They're laying the foreshadowing pretty thick in that chaos, there's very little doubt she's the messiah, or at least adjacent to her in some way, I'm just hoping her idol design is a fakeout and we get a proper chaos witch look for her combatant version, but I don't have high hopes.
>>566035660if you really want to make a male character you just have to go for dual banner style.
>>566035660are they aware that they didn't release a single 4* since release?
>>566035825Haru was the preseason and launch character, huge bait character that a lot of people fell for because she was never really meta.S1 was Yuki, Chizuru and Sereniel. Narja was the preseason and Nine was the start of S2. S2 is where they decided "Hey maybe we should put some effort in the game?" with Nine, Tiphera and RitaDiana preseasonHeidemarie, Adelheid, Tenebria for S3And after that the only thing we have to go by is the S1 rework teaser with possible Azelante/Luche next.
>>566035996I was thinking about a transformation mechanic where she becomes "evil" after filling the requirementsbut yeah I doubt it she's going to sing and that's it
I DIDN'T DO MY DAILIES WHAT IF MAINTENANCE GETS DELAYEDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
>>566035996meant for >>566035729
>>566035578NTA but I think he refers to the flag reactions that you see in a lot of posts
Tenebria will probably break down faster than other characters but being in a broken down state unlocks her evil side and kit
>>566036618>Tenebria doesn't actually break down but instead gets special cards and stuff she can use in that modetoo kino for this game...
>>566033985>feels like she got hit by a breast expansion ray in this gameIt's a good thing.
Which level is the time I start looking into my Chaos run? Optimize and stuff.
>>566036826Once you can start doing 12~14 level chaos is a good time to start optimizing and making actually good saves
>>566036826around 40 is where you unlock most things and can start playing the game I believe ?
>>566036826Difficulty X for Zero, VIII for Seasonalhttps://rentry.co/cznsavedata/
>>566036820Mommy issues are more embarrassing than daddy issues
will they be fixing any exploits
>>566036727>>566036618>>566036179maybe Tenebria will be the reason why we have corruption mode
People keep saying cowtits, but they still haven't released a true titty monster.
>>566037209hopefully that'll be the story reason, yeah, like she can teach combatants to tap into their trauma for power or somethingThough I'm still skeptical of how much thought they put into the story.
man it's really fucking silly how much nia heals with heidemarie now
I haven't done my daily chaos swept yet...
>>566038046it's ok, it will definitely go back online in 1:30 hours
>3D slop gacha >Tons of shit flinging>2D SOVL gacha>Tons of autists discussing the gameHome...
>>566038046its over...
>>566037101You can stop crying, faggot-in-denial, Adelheid is on the next rate-up.
>>566038468Adelheid should have J cups.
>>566038468One more month of breast feeding and you would have been fixed...
>>566036618this is such a stupid concept and someone suggests it every thread, can you get a new idea please
>>566038550It's excel saga all over again.
>>566038323It's mostly anons discussing the game and the random asspie sperging out over something retarded like the autist having a meltdown right now because people want more smaller chested characters for example.
>>566038602What makes it stupid?
>>566038608Sex with the will of universe
We will get the big hand giga tit monster at some point
>>566038654>>566038323I think some idiots on this site feel uncomfortable in threads that are just people having fun or discussing their game so they have to find a way for people to stop having fun and go back to shtiflinging. 3D gachas just have way more of these retards I guess.
>>566038816My tiny pistol won't satisfy those hands...
>>566038816yay!!!
>>566038816>Narja preS2>Diana preS3>all leaked charactersI feel like she might come out in preS4.
At least this kot won't spin
>>566038816One of these days ....
>>566038989Doesn't help that a lack of content contributes to the bad behavior. Poor /end/... One replayable mode away from stability.
>>566038323How did 3d games like G*nshin go from "premium next gen gacha" to slop so quickly? They're such expensive games to produce too
>>566036102Fuck I started on the Yuki banner and somehow I don't even remember there being a S2 preseason. What was it like? Was it similar to how S3 had persona cards that sucked ass?
>>566039754No, there was nothing. They came up with the idea of previewing the Seasonal gimmick with preS3. The game improved a LOT since release
>>566039754It was the Narja trauma code and Luke if I remember correctly with barely anything else to do. Don't think there was anything to remember about it desu
>>566039854We had... the tower beta.
>>566035996They already made a kit in E7 that does what youre talking about and she's an idol too (Tamberine?)So of course they WONT recycle that into something even more kino
>>566036895>>566036965>>566037098thankss
>>566039651Generalpill me on /end/Is it the new worst general on /vg/ or is it still /wow/ or /bag/
>>566039854Starting to realize every gacha is in beta for the first 6 months to first year...
>>566039854>>566039854Crazy I legit don't remember this. Maybe I took a break.
>>566040179There was Narja's trauma code which people enjoyed, I guess.
>>566039854>>566040348there was spiral tower of screams beta
How long until the maintenance ends?
>>566040089/end/ is better than /czn is all you need to know
>>566040089I don't frequent too many generals, but compared to /akg/, /zzz/, and here, I'd say it's pretty miserable. Nonstop raids and shit posters and doomers make sure that the general doesn't find stability or any sense of identity. Constant AI slop too. When a new patch drops it finds itself again, but the content is so sparse that it falls back into old habits within a week.
>>5660406725 minutes
>>566039854Didn't they add tower? I mean it was incredibly easy and capped at 75 but that was added in pre S2 IIRC.
>>566038816Seems like she'll come with the foretold ruin reskin based on her gimmick, so we should get her within the next 2 seasons
>>566033817Naked apron is too sex
That tentacle cunt better stop freezing my chaos sweeps after maint.
>>566040870kek
>>566040147Most gachas are just DOA. So preparing a full game would be a waste of time.
Now that Nia has been buffed and has synergy with this season, how do you like her? She seemed pretty irrelevant in the first season.
>>566041314boring but arguably the most important character in the game.
>>566041314I liked her even in S1 desuCuriosity is amazing for getting to your key cards.
>>566041314I've been using her since Yuki. I am glad she found a better niche.
>>566040870not shocking...
>>566033817No, I don't think I will.
>finished work>get home>prepare to build a Persona Rin deck>>>maintenanceWhat did you MOTHERFUCKERS do this time?
>>566041314>She seemed pretty irrelevant in the first seasonShe was pretty busted with the hunger forbidden card but was overshadowed first by TCM team and then by Sereniel team in rifts.The first side was always easy to sub 5 turn clear in season 1 so nothing else shined.I was having fun using her in season 1 with Yuki and now with Diana and Heidy.
>>566041879Bro we are waiting SINCE 3 HOURS get in line...
>>566041879Sorry I was using Tressa so they shut he game down
8 MINUTES
>>566038654Crying about some random fan artist drawing tits slightly bigger is more stupid than whatever meltdown you’re talking about desu
>>566033817Not pale enough
>>566034323Make more money. Stop buying avocado toast.
>>566042695Not drawn by the human hand using the human spirit enough
https://youtu.be/oaZA9x71IyA?si=GCItWjj1gZogUnzrBros???
not watching your shitty video
I am watching your shitty video.
1 MINUTELET ME IIIIIIIINNNN
Checking the shop and I know people said the Dupe Core is the rarest one but isn’t the card removal core really close? It has more available but it’s still limited.Or do people not care because it’s easier to remove through a Chaos?
30 SECONDS
>>566042958Pseychie is actual retard with worst takes
>>566042958Glad devs are finally paying to promote this game.
>>566043328It's easier to remove through chaos and you get an extra one if you buy the monthly but yes it's the 2nd rarest
I'M IN!
bake the bread
Patch notes doko
I'm HIM
>>566043328It's easier to remove in Chaos. 3 shops for a total of 360 credits, not a big dealDupe event is chance based and sometimes you can get the perfect run in every single aspect but the dupe event decides to fuck you. Or you don't get to copy the card you wanted either
Fuuuuaaaark!
>>566033817Can you use this for a non retarded artstyle? Or is it locked to generic slop
>>566043363Maybe, but he’s still based for constantly triggering and calling out other gacha fanbases. The meltdown from his Arknights videos was great.
DELAYED
>>566040695>3d game>ai slopAlways makes me lmao
>>566043548Dupe is way better since you can do stuff like get the purple weapon in lab0/s2's chaos on its BIS character (Yuki and Nine) by skipping the dupe, then dupe the card you missed afterward.
Im literally in bow
>>566043806>>566043806>>566043806
>>566043719Quite literally the worst of every world
