GGST 2.0 and Jam starter guidehttps://youtu.be/mLGruVR6VkM [Embed]https://youtu.be/MIJwA7Pu9Ns [Embed]GGST 2.0 and Jam are live!Blazing battle pass: MayRobo=Ky: Summer>RESOURCESMain wiki with frame data and information about system mechanics: https://www.dustloop.comFighting game glossary: https://glossary.infil.net/Deflect Shield OS tech: https://youtu.be/zmQeJLe_w9U [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Open] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed] [Embed]>Replay Uploadershttps://replaytheater.app/?game=xrdhttps://replaytheater.app/?game=acprhttps://replaytheater.app/?game=strive>Xrd/+R/#R/ML Resourceshttps://www.reddit.com/r/Guiltygear/wiki/learngg/https://github.com/YouKnow232/ggxxacpr_overlay/releaseshttps://www.dustloop.com/w/GGXRD-R2/Resourceshttps://github.com/WistfulHopes/ggml_public/releases>Current GGST Patch 2.0 (April 9th)https://www.guiltygear.com/ggst/en/news/post-2851/>Guilty Gear Soundtrackshttps://mega.nz/folder/VRxC2JqT#E0Jfw9f_yEwIV6yFgXnDZw/>/ggg/ APPROVED Strive modsPotato Mod Lite: https://gamebanana.com/mods/299494/Potato Low Spec: https://gamebanana.com/mods/296927/Frame Data Display/Replay Takeover 1.49+: https://github.com/WistfulHopes/UE4SSMods/releases/tag/replay-0.2.4SLASH: >>565621595
Will they buff ABA in the next patch? I really like her as my first main, but she does feel a bit disadvantaged in a lot of situations. Just asking to see if there's anything to look forward to, not gonna drop her unless they delete from the game
>>566024294giovana?embeds?
>>566025070>This character doesn't win at literally all times, do you think they'll buff her?Abafags everyone
>>566025464Yeah, it do be like that sometimes
Zato bros how are you holding on?
>>566025686Didn't Zato get secretly gigabuffed because float is a crossup teleport tool now but you'd never know without twitter
Compared to other fighting games how hard is it to get to top 50 EVO at Guilty?
>>566027450It's probably directly in correlation to how many entrants and actual people who play competitively. So, easier than Street Fighter for certain, but probably as hard or harder than other games
>>566027738it's impossible to get anywhere in tekken if you haven't been playing for 10+ years
Why are you guys so mean and hateful? All I wanted was to learn how to play. If rudeness is the only way to be good at this then I take my leave.Bitches
>>566028156Has anyone been playing Strive only very recently and crushed it on tournaments on the current scene?
>nobody rematches me as ABAwhy?????
i can't change ibs, so i made bullet time slop
>>566025070Considering ABA players have been collectively pissing and shitting their pants ever since the patch dropped and that one competitive Korean ABA player basically tweeted a suicide note over it I imagine she’s first in like for some minor buffs with Testament just to shut them all up
>>566030596V shift SFV noice.
>>566031513who was the pro?
>>566031837Besh00. Multiple tweet story about how he works an office job six days a week and doesn’t sleep so he can play Strive and them nerfing ABA ruined his ability to compete at EVO so he’s quitting and selling his leverless
Just woke up from a year long coma. Is Jam fun?
>>566031837Not that anon and don't have twitter but I think I heard Besho was making a stink.
>>566032917>>566032981He could've spent that energy learning a skill to get a better job, good for him
>>566032917unironically a SK neo-confusian hell hole problem>>566033364nah SK is FUBAR
>>566034698elaborate?
>>566034757its quite simple really
>>566033364>>566034698Yeah saw someone say he was so close to seeing the truth of how fucked up his work-life situation was but decided to blame the beasts.
Bros...
>boot up the old 8am ranked>testament that ragequits>sol badguy that one and dones>the same testament again, wins this time and doesn't rematch>johnny that i beat who doesn't rematch>venom mashing defensive throw that I 2-0perhaps modern games were a mistake, I miss discord fighters.
lmao Hotashi's new video saying defense is too strong in 2.0 and that Millia is OP. hard to believe this dude isn't trolling when he talks
>>566036328Yjk that the strive team is taking a 8 month break after the may 14 "balance" patch
Mist clouded DOUBTHeroic STARBlazing new defiant GROUNDSTARLESS nightBreath is BOUND
>>566034757>elaborate?There's a bunch of individually damning stuff like the suicide rate, average work hours (80+ per week), economic consolidation in the economy (a handful of families control most of the country's economy zaibatsu style but worse, unironically: eg Samsung is like 20% of their GDP which leads to things like: "Samsung boss Lee Jae-yong released from jail on parole 'in national interest'"), the fucked fertility rate (0.72) driven by the those stressors and general shit pay for people not in the upper echelons, which is further compounded by a bunch of men misdirecting that anxiety / anger at women. There's more, including the hours students are expected to keep and the size of living spaces etc. It's like the most extreme Yakuza game-esq caricature of Japan but real if not worse.>>566035904>Yeah saw someone say he was so close to seeing the truth of how fucked up his work-life situation was but decided to blame the beasts.To be fair he likely can't do much about it.>>566037159>defense is too strong in 2.0 and that Millia is OPHe's right though.
How do I escape millia's fS > sdisk > fS > sdisk infinite?
>>566040172Post Kapel's hitboxes.
What did we think about EVO?
>>566039176>a bunch of men misdirecting that anxiety / anger at womenthe women are also bat shit insane like leading a feminist satanic cult insane
Hello ArcSisters. Have you guys formed your teams for the /gbvsg/ team tournament?
>>566040720
>>566040720Nitro dropping spaghetti against komekome's asuka was funny
>>566040747>the women are also bat shit insaneIn response to the men going insane on them, which feeds back into itself and snowballed.>the whole pinch gesture scandal existing>interpreting insufficiently sexy gacha costume designs as a personal slight against men driven directly by women (Limbus Company)>1/4 women aged 18-29 have had plastic surgery to alter their appearance to be more appealing to men
>tfw no batshit insane satanic feminist cult korean gf
I feel like arcsys is being sabotaged on the strive front with how they’ve treated Sol while trans characters like Potemkin and Slayer get better rushdown, mixups, defense, range, damage, and everything else. These characters can just trans you out while Sol has literally nothing functional except strike throw if you’re bad enough to let him get in.
>destroy gunframe>buff the shit out of gunframe and its still useless because you just nerfed it that hard>destroy 6s>destroy bortex>destroy bandit bringer>destroy bandit revolveryou WILL run up to the opponent and close slash themYou WILL say Sol is high tierYou will NOT get a new special moveAnd you will be HAPPY
>>566043601Tbf not sure you can put the plastic surgery epidemic just generally on men. Obviously they hold the power but it’s a marketing and media thing. But it’s not like every balding man goes out and gets plugs
>>566044586erm men being allowed to be ugly is patriarchy actually
>>566044192Sol can still do alright (though he's definitely unnecessarily painful right now due to the system changes in combination with his personal changes), but you need to be so much more well fleshed out in your play to do so, and you really really can't miss any opportunities to capitalize on damage or taking your opponents resources. Informed by my own experience I think this makes him really difficult to play at a mid level when your opponents start to actually be able to defend strike throw (fuzzy and matchup knowledge) as well as run their own offence somewhat competently.>>566044464I don't know how to feel about gunflame. It's probably fine, just used slightly differently than before. Without 2K to make vortex useful in combos it's mostly dead outside of panic special to lose less oki and some niche risky low-profile callouts in certain matchups (but even there the proration really hurts the risk-reward of taking that chance).>>566044586I meant that as a mix of the women being crazy (for doing that) and obviously the expectation largely being driven by men in terms of setting female beauty standards.>>566044767The figure for men in the same age range is 2% (opposed to 25% for women); it seems like there's a lot more pressure in one direction than the other.
Is getting good only a matter of time and hard work or is it genetics?
>>566046459Genetics
>>566046459You do have to get gud no matter how gifted you are. Some people are just naturally good at mind games, and among those people, there are people who are quick on their feet. Those people are probably the people who tend to get truly great at fighting games and generally sports in general. The gene does exist, but it alone doesn't make someone good, it just makes it so they "can" get good and it's not like you'll know if you have it until you put in a decently large amount of time in
>>566044192S5 Slayer is literally just worse sol thoughbeit
>>566046459There are genehavers and geneletsThe worst genehaver will always beat the most dedicated, educated and hardworking genelet, it's just how it works.Time and hard work then matters when it's 2 gene havers fighting, but as demonstrated by Daigo just days ago and the children getting into sf6 and beating oldheads, eventually the gene always wins out.
>>566046153They really need to at least give him gv and make bb more plus and faster, or make br safe. And give him back 5K. Right now it feels like there’s no benefit in playing him over someone else, not in any category whatsoever. So make him have evasive moves again as well as a 3F 5K, and make most of his stuff less suicidal, and it would fix things.
the worst part is that Genehavers, by virtue of being genehavers and winning all the time, also become the type to be neet streamers spending all day every day playing since they were teenagers, so they will pretty much always have decades of experience ON TOP of their genes.
>>566047567It's so stupid that Bortex is actively just a dead fucking special that you die if you press accidentally>Make it -20>kill its low profile>cut its distance by a third>make it EXCLUSIVELY a combo extender (just to make sure you eat 60% and a wallbreak if you're ever asleep at the wheel on your confirms)>proceed to delete the combo theory that uses it so he can use his """"""new special""""""">and then destroy the damage you might get if you ever actually hit it rawLikeCome the fuck on
>>566047931sorry I meant to say cut its distance TO a third, as in cut it by 2 thirdsbut more realistically it was more cut by halfI think
>>566047567All of that is crazy; we don't want or need S3 Sol back lol
>>566050967Be a way better game than it is now
>>566050967Every other character gets stuff like that, Nago, Slayer, Pot, but Sol can’t just because he’s straight and white?
^ definitely brown
No need to announce yourself
Sol is Persian
>Dizzy has a better 2D range than Giovanna>"Yeah sure why not, she's a zoner. Long arms Necro.">Her 2D is faster than Giovanna's tooSo... Can anyone explain to me why a zoner has better buttons than a rushdown character?It's like the equivalent of Sephiroth with long F.S range and faster startup than Baiken's F.S. What game design is this?
>>566053321
>>566053321>>566053542She, and I say this without even a hint of irony, needs it.
>>566053542She looks so goofy. She hulk lookin ahh.
>>566046459The gene is just being autistic and having a family that will let you not work
>>566058472Which part of autism?
>>566053321you're asking why the long range character has a better ranging normal than the stubby rushdown character?
>>566053321nigga, she's a rushdown character. rushdown usually have below average neutral (stubby normals, no fireball).
Learned I-No, ABA, Pot, GL so far. Thinking Elphelt or May next. Any recommendations based on the characters I’ve played so far?
>>566047575My genes are so strong that I don't even need to play the game all that often to retain my ability to annihilate 99% of the nolifer players that are cursed with an existence without the gene.
>>566063462What do you consider learning?
>>566042859Can't believe the saudis bought EVO, then only a month later, they were bombed back to the stone age.
>>566053542>the sunglasses doggolol
>>566043601yeah, now list the shit the feminist cabal gets up to> 1/4 women aged 18-29 have had plastic surgery to alter their appearance to be more appealing to menlolI forget this thread has unironic transgender wokies
>>566063807been dedicating a couple days to each just getting the basics down and then getting them to at least Plat in ranked. nothing super thorough, just trying to see who I vibe with, being new to the game with 2.0
>>566053321they obviously want Dizzy to be an anti-zoner zonerand devs literally do not suffer their own game
>get into plat >go up against a Sol with the 300 wins and Celestial tags on his profile>oh fuck>he’s a complete moron just trying to cheese with bandit bringer and won’t stop jumping>win 2-0>go look at his R-Code again and he has Baiken in VanquisherNever know what’s going on in this game
Why did they remove instant kills?
So fucking tired of fighting Nago’s already. Love making one wrong guess from half screen away and losing the round because of it
Fuck that shit goes hard...
>Goldlewis up backed himself into the corner until he had negative bonus then just kept jumping back>I lost That’s gonna do some mental damage for a long time
>>566053321in xrd her 2D was massive because she was completely reliant on knockdowns to function as a character and needed to be able to confirm ground f.S and 5K hits into it, and she had no good cancels on block without meter so it was very risky to use in blockstrings or neutralIn Strive she has it because they made the animation big because it was big in Xrd
>>566025464when i convert my random 2P into snail its pure skill never forget that...
>>566077312Always so entertaining the way you Xrd monkeys talk like the game wasn’t also kusoge
>>566073675They were too bigoted.
>>566075162this is why you gotta learn to airthrow
>>566075162Just hit him with an air unblockable move
>>566078816i mean that's probably a good way to eat a BT combo
>>566078008xrd has lots of wacky shit but there's almost always solid reasons for it, even if the reason is just "they wanted this shit to be wacky"strive is a game that doesn't know what it is doing in a lot of ways, I don't think that's even a controversial statement, you can still like the game and acknowledge that arcsys are doing a lot of fumbling around half randomly with mechanics and character designs. Look at Wild Assault's history.
strive is kinda like teen titans go in a way
>>566079030just be quick about it
>>566073675a lot of workhistorically have little effects on gameplaynoob unfriendly
>>566080258noobs love instant killsthey will try to IK on stun even if they have to run up full screen firstand they actually stun each other pretty often because they love mashing
>>566080258They shouldn’t make stuff with shitters in mind, makes the game boring to actually play.
>>566080491Well, that's what strive is
>>566080839Yeah and it’s like comparing a sportscar to a clown car!
hellolobby doko
nub that couldnt jump cancel trial again, i have a better idea of how it works now but it's still awkward.you can hold up as soon as you start the ground attack, but pushing attack too early does some other string. and pushing too late whiffs. but then it seems like you have to wait for the jump attack to land before pushing up again, you cant just release and re-hold the direction though maybe my fingers are too stupid to tell the difference. and each string probably has a different rhythm to not fuck it up?
>>566081349I could play some plus r
>>566080901it's been 5 years, bro. let it go.
>>566080465it gets in the way of the noob learning to actually engage with the game properly
>>566081478wait not like that
>Normal first round in ranked>During the second opponent super jumps>Gets an air grab and I teleport to him despite me being on the ground>Suddenly wall break which kills me from full>Next match and the other two games are normalWhat the fuck was that?
>>566082989did you save the replay? could just be a bad connection knowing how terrible strives netcode is, but I wouldn't rule out cheat engine
I am a scrub trying to get better is the only way to learn counterplay to certain characters recording their inputs on a bot and then labbing it? I don’t wanna try to get inputs right for the other character pls bro. I just get knocked down and a bunch of bullshiy is happening to me and idk what I can do or I’m blocking for a million years and it feels like no matter what button I press I can’t do shit it just isn’t very clear to me be it millia knocking me down oki or ino oki or Bridget just hitting me a million times and just keep throwing their yoyo and summersaulting towards it and feeling I have to block for 10 yrs
>>566084109In +R there’s replay takeover where you can just take over your character from a point in a replay but I’m not sure if strive has it yet
>>566084246Should have clarified I’m striver so go figure but yeah this is fucked man j
>>566085143just play a ft100 against a character loyalist and grow through hardship (100 back to back losses in a row)
strive needs custom combos
>>566084246>>566084109Try this for a -Strive- replay takeover modhttps://gamebanana.com/mods/654756
>>566086602Thank you bro hope this saves me cause I’m getting knowledge checked and idk wtf to do
>>566087135You can also try to play long sets getting your ass beat to feel it out if you're a sicko like me.
>>566073675the game was already instant kill at launchbut I wish they did move all the 10-second animations to a meme mechanic instead of literally at every wallstick
>>566079664based! i love that show!
>>566090670I started playing p4au, and a series of inputs like thundergod dance would make a great template for instant kills.
Starting from scratch If I lab, look at guides and PVP for 8 hours a day everyday with the same character for a year: Will I get a decent level at Strive?
>>566092825
I never played Xrd but Dizzy's Instant Kill is great. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KbzToVXm70Q
>>566092913yes, more of this please.
>>566025070>>566025464>>566089414CBT games with this feel?
>>566093335Go search deadly rave like supers, thank me later.
>>566093684why can't i thank you now?
>>566094390Oh alright fine.
>>566093387this mu is hell but that aba is too afraid
Deadly Rave is just motion inputs using attack buttons
does anyone want a lobby
>>566081404I don't understand your post at all, but how noob are we talking here?are you familiar enough with sexual cancels?because jump cancels are the same thing but with a jump instead, you shouldn't be "holding" anything, just time the up input
>>566095320region? level?
>>566086602mai pusi
>>5660928618 hours a day sounds like too much burnout fuel for those of us without The Gene
>>566092861You will perish.
>>566095663code 124578na ec but all regions welcomefr3 winner stays
>>566095965kek
>>566092861there's not much to get though
Raves truly are the highest form of super. GBVS Rising removing Djeeta's button presses is fucking cringe. They really should be the default rather than animated supers.
>>566097008>Rising removing Djeeta's button presses is fucking cringeOh, is that how it worked in vanilla?Damn, removing it really IS shit.
>>566096276>two lobbies with this code>don't recognize any of the people in them>neither are ft3uhhhhhhhh
>>566093387is this a camera mod?
>>566098310which oneI don't want to break into someone's private time in their habbo hotel room
>>566099265both are me
>>566099608no wai...
>>566099265>habbo hotel roomkek, How did we go from Chibi lobby (DBFZ, Granblue, XRD) to habbo hotel?This is so funny man
>>566099265sorry I closed cause no one joined but I can reopen if you’re still down
>>566099974I actually like the habbo hotels. it's cozy to visit someone's lobby and see how they've customizedI don't like granblue as a fighting game but everything unrelated to its gameplay mogs>>566100009yeah I'm down
>>566100184lobby REOPEN SAME CODE except I AM THE FAUST NAMED VAN AUGUR
duu woke up with 5Pmods 2 week him
>>566099974gg is THE "let's reinvent the wheel"/"let's fix what isn't broken" game sometimes it works, sometimes it doesn't
>>566093029Shouldn't like 70% of these characters be completely unfazed by a nuke?Sol killed and raped Justice and she had nuclear warheads as regular ammo in her shoulders
>>566100475BUILT for thighjobs
>>566100367join the team tournament
>>566100367might have to whip out my pocket unika for a lobby with this many scrimblos
Elphelt Goon Hypnosis
>>566096276joineth and free me from the cuck chair
>>566102187GRUBBER SPOTTED GRUBBER SPOTTED
>>566102485I don't like to watch. they force meJOIN
>>566102691I just got done playing otherwise I would
7日残り
>>566103970>Next weekDamn time so fast.
>>566100367mr. van you are requested in the other thread
>>566102187blue waffle is that youI can join
>>566096276GEKIRIN
>>566107379Gekerin...
>>566107468I misspelled it FUCK
>>566107379I like how dustloop changed the image to the much nicer looking middle hitbox from the lamer looking startup of the move
>>566101590
>>566079053That’s easy to say after Xrd is in its final form and Strive is still in the middle of its development. Every stage of Xrd was a joke of balance and mechanics. The biggest thing it has going for it is that it came out ten years ago so the people for who it was their first GG are now the old heads because a lot of the ancients who started with XX have an actual adult job and life now
Genuinely, why is it so hard for people to accept that Guilty Gear is a kusoge series
Can I finally say Xrd Jam's face looked ugly and strive is an improvement?
>>566108547agp inducing pic
>>566108872
>>566108872but her "sprite" was super pretty
>>566108608launch Xrd had some really bad decisions but none of its changes either character or system are anywhere near as big or directionless as some of what Strive has had. Like the obvious parallel to Wild Assault is Blitz, launch Blitz was dumb, it was just a parry that caught mids and lows without the charge minigame or anything, but the vision was still there with countering obvious frametraps, ambiguous crossups and the reject state RPS. Adding the charge blitz attack and crumple on counterhit alongside not being able to low blitz mids just fixed the issues with it but it is still doing the job it was designed to do.Strive launched without wild assault, then added it, then buffed it, then nerfed it, then removed it.
>>566096276ggsdo I ever feel the loss of WWA in this MU. I feel like I know the MU fairly well but still bite it pretty bad
>>566108872>>566109360what were they thinking giving everyone that shovel chin in xrd
>>566096276Lobby closed Ggs everyone thanks for joining>>566100794>>566105219Yeah if I have time I’ll try to join
>>566109465Nothing wrong with trying shit and admitting when it doesn’t work. Would rather playing Strive than Xrd any day of the week.
>>566108608Xrd fixed most of it's issues by Rev1 though which was only like a year or 2 after SIGN's releaseThe only thing that took until Rev2.1 to fix was Raven. The track record is 1000% better than Strive's current path (while Strive has been actively supported for longer than Xrd was at this point)
>>566109742sure, you're allowed to think that, lots of people like strivebut "with Strive is Arcsys throwing a bunch of shit at the wall without a very clear idea of what they want to do with the game or at least how to accomplish their goals" is not disproved by "They're trying shit and admitting when it doesn't work"for better or worse I think it's pretty undeniable xrd had a much clearer vision, you don't need to argue over that just because you prefer strive
what was xrd's vision?how could you see it through the piss lighting?
>>566110303Danger Time
How we doing tonight guys? Sorry I haven't been active today. It's been, tough to say the least.
>>566110982Hai BridgetTranny. How you're doin?
>>566109569it's still somewhat there in strive in certain keyframes, like unika's weapons free
>>566111091Eh. Not great. Had a pretty bad day.
>>566111185Oof really really that bad?
>>566110074I mean Strive has a pretty clear vision. So clear that it’s obvious why it turned off so many older GG and BB fans. But it’s also now had a longer span of success and support than most ArcSys games so they’re reevaluating things more dramatically throughout the lifespan
>>566112903It doesn’t have a clear vision other than “wanting it to be as easy as possible and safe enough for trannies”
>>566112903Strive's vision was basically that we need to do something different because Xrd sold poorlyThe game was poorly put together on release and still reused a bunch of stuff from Xrd despite changing a bunch of other mechanics causing it to play like crap. It was pretty much lightning in a bottle caused by the fact that Guilty Gear was already well known and held a "hardcore fighting game" status, rollback netcode, and covid that allowed Strive to succeed.Also something with Smash, I don't know what happened with Smash at the time, but a lot of Smashers were jumping ship to actual fighting games at the time.Then you have all of the lack of polish around everything where most characters don't even have any kind of intro/dialog instead they just walk onto the stage and say "hey, you", then the other player responses "hmmm.. okay"
>>566112903*crack**sip*yeeeep, us xrd oldheads just hate the direction strive took. can't match the complexity and skill this game took ya know?t. 6 year vet
>>566108547>look up the source>a creature so caked in makeup and photoshop that >>566108872 looks like the very definition of plain, natural beauty
>>566113162Based and instant kneel
>>566113183>Horror Engine Elphelt
>>566113124Look I know appealing to popularity is a fallacy in itself but you have to see how ridiculous it sounds to act like Xrd was genius under appreciated design and Strive is only successful for bullshit reasons. There’s enough fightan out there, including Xrd still being playable, that if Strive was actually just some COVID shit everyone would have moved on
>>566113479nothing in my post said "Xrd was genius"It's definitely a niche fighter that requires too much time for the average person to get into.
>>566113479Nta but strive is just really boring. In gameplay and aesthetic and everything else. I don’t expect it to be played consistently like +R and xrd once it’s no longer the newest in the series.
>>566113479Strive is still being actively supported and has an entire scene around it. It's more of if anyone will give a shit about it once the next entry comes out and arcsys drops all support.
>>566108608>Strive is still in the middle of its developmentthat's a very reductive and disingenious thing to say. Because first up, no the fuck it isn't, this game is being tended by the potted plant next to the window at ASW instead of a team of developers. Secondly, after five years you'd think that "muh covid crunch" or "they're going to fix it" would hold less water
Arcsys should bring Justice back but in a weakened loli form where she’s a bratty mesugaki that wants to destroy humanity
>>566113786It’s already been played longer than Xrd
>>566114406Not meant to be disingenuous. “In the middle of” is just a colloquial way of saying ongoing. Though who knows how much longer it’ll go.
>>566115294noooo you can't just say that
jam air buttons are ass give her an air disjoint NOW
>>566115294I don't think that's true, people played Xrd until around 2023-2024 until it finally died off.technically people still play Xrd but it's about half of what it used to have
>>566115653>people played Xrdyeah 50 people
>>566115627ram mains...
>>566113479you're so insecure about liking strive that you are attacking points people aren't even making to try to defend ityou can just like the game and admit the design is kind of a mess
>>566116417it was more 200-300, but Xrd was never really that popular, that's not really the argument
>>566113450funny!
on one hand, 2000 daily peak is a lot for a fighting game on the other, %wise it's average dropoff for a fighting game
>>566117323thst Storm is niggaliciously thicc
>>566117323Imagine the shitstorm if ArcSys gives Storm a white skinned palette like they usually do in their games.
>>566118235I want to say nonzero chance that happens but snoy will probably block it. though it would be a good idea to let that in, create some fuss to draw attention to the game
>>566030596because anon said it was Vshift...
>>566120147california would definitely stop itNago had pink lips in his debut but that was stopped.Granblue got away with making white zooey though
>>566120214the most impressive part is how your mods used to look really jank, but now they look almost profissional
>>566120361>white zooey stripping zoi of her luscious caramel skin is a crime against humanity
>>566120807thank you. i've learned a lot
I have played every guilty gear ever made since inception very extensively, and never have I had more fun with the series than during the strive era.
>>566115653One yearly event at frosty faustings doesn't qualify a game as being played. By that metric, most kusos I mash in are totally alive.Xrd died before they even rollbacked it, during the last 6 months of strive's development. That was the last time the game got any major attention.
>>566121118kekIruka-san is too powerful...
>>566121552https://liquipedia.net/fighters/Guilty_Gear_Xrd/Tournaments???I get that you are new to fighting games and think it's suppose to do huge numbers which is why ~300 regular players on steam scares you off, but Xrd was never huge. But it always existed in tournament scenes as a borderline side tournament game. It was even sidelined at EVO for most of it's life. But people still actively play the game.
>>566122608Yeah, and KOF 13 also has 'always existed.' Both games are fucking dead, and you need to get over yourself.
>>566123086https://liquipedia.net/fighters/The_King_of_Fighters_XIII/Tournaments???yes, it is dead, people do not play this game nor are there tournaments for it
>>566123086lmao retard
>>566123086Zoomies are such gigantic, stupid faggots holy shit.
Whoa...10 contestants...I kneel...
>>566122608I'm actually surprised that Xrd is a lot more alive than I thought
>>566121184so at the very least you are lying and you for sure have brain damage. nice post retard
>>566125753>N-NO! you CAN'T enjoy the newest entry more than the older ones! NEW BAD!keknot that guy but get fucked nerd
Xturders are truly the worst subcult in fighting game history.
>>566095424i am probably the worst fighting game player in the world atm. i am trying strive because sf6 was very ugly and granblue characters/as a setting was very sloptiming the up input and other inputs just by pushing them at the right time is hard, but i can hold the up input during the close S and then push the air S with what feels like better leniency. too early on pushing S and sol continues on the ground, too late and the air S whiffs ky. but then i think i have to time the up input for the next cancel but the mission isn't picky about that
>>566126050>get blown the fuck outhow will anon ever recover
>>566120936www
>>566126407from what I understand, you're just supposed to input any up (7 8 9) after the jump-cancellable attack connectsyou're just supposed to cS > jump-cancel > wait till you're falling > jS > jump-cancelsort of Arc's fault for not even telling newfriends the purpose of any of this
>>566128482oh i never tried waiting to fall, connecting it right off the ground was possible so that's what i was trying
>>566126638xrd was the beginning of the end, bro. constant screen freezes, retarded 'hype' mechanic, lmao footsies rc system, shite ost... xrd is literally proto-strive
>>566128482Air combos are the hardest part of guilty gear to master.
guilty gear air combos aren't even that complex compared to other games
Bring Zappa to strive bring Zappa to strive Zappa is so cool love Zappa aesthetic love cute hot ghost ladies and ghosts bring Zappa to strive
>>566137648ironically, coming into launch Strive from the blindfolded consistency of Xrd, I thought they just upped basic execution requirements for even the shortest air combos since nothing was connectingonly to find out that they intentionally put zero float on everything to make it more like Tekken juggling with autotechs
>>566140782post your +R zappa game count
>>566140782Zappa is one of the coolest fighting game characters ever made but the strive version of him definitely wouldn’t be. Depending on how they attempt it, it might be enough to make me try strive again but I’d still stick with +R.
>>566074014matches the fedora look
>>566123167>10 people in OhioThis isn’t the win you think it is
Is Strive ranked down right now? I'm trying to que up, but the que never actually pops and keeps me in the waiting screen after you accept
there are sentences like "zappa is one of the coolest fighting game characters ever made" that you know nobody has ever said genuinely
>>566148965>shadowbanned rage quitter detected
>>566148756I think you can't read, that post is saying that is what a dead game actually looks like
>>566150137Is that a thing? I swear I am not a rage quitter or anything like that. I even play the really fucking lame games out. I just wanna know if anyone is having issues with Strive online right now since I've been queuing for half an hour at this point and the only games I've gotten are against the same guy and they DC halfway through
>aba mirror match>lost 1st game>2nd game initially ended in double KO>i won on the retry>guy refuses to rematch mewhy????
>>566149725he is one of the coolest, he is also one of the most retarded and horrible to play against
yo why is the first tab when you open replays is a list of irrelevant ass matches? why do i need to scroll to the 3rd fucking tab for it? why does it take a few seconds for the list to show? who designed this shit?
>>566151564i did actually! I thought that people would want to be able to see high level replays to help them improve since I know a lot of new players would be picking up the game. The interface is laggy because I don't know how to code but I worked really hard on it. Please don't be mean to me.
>>566150668i don't know i'm just ribbing you. i've never played ranked either
You know conceptually and with all her great animations, would think Jack-O would be a fun character to watch but her actual offense always looks so sauceless when it’s just her and two minions mashing out blockstrings. It’s almost never any of the cool juggles and pickups you’d expect from a minion/puppet type character.
>>566150668>>566148965It's working for me; got a match in 20s and was able to play it.>>566151564The game is perpetually stuck in it's launch / on-boarding mindset. The order of those tabs should probably be configurable.
>no Kuradoberi-branded Jam released alongside the Jam DLCThis is why Arcsys is dying. Brilliant ideas like mine are just wasted upon the C suite plebs.
i got to round 5 arcadeill do some missions, try to do more than single button hits, try arcade, think jesus christ what a shitshow and repeat a bit lateri just dont remember anything except stun edge and pressing S and sometimes throw when the game starts
i like how elphelts voice is mixed lower than everyone else
>>566159049what do you mean
>>566140117that's cause guilty gear sux and blazblue is better
Uh oh
>>566126407>granblue characters/as a setting was very slopretard
>>566118235If they didn't give Nago one then they won't give Storm one.
>>566162895I say as someone that literally has the grub thread open next to this one, Granblue is fucking garbage as a settingThe most generic fantasy magitech gacha nothing to ever exist, "slop" is the correct word to describe it. I avoided the game for years because every time someone showed me the roster I just looked at them and saw generic korean gacha stock characters and could barely tell them apart.Name one cool thing about granblue lore. A place in the setting with an interesting story. A faction worth telling a story about. A draw to the skyrealm specifically that other settings can't replicate. You can't do it. Every story revolves around homoangels because you don't need to make a setting for characters that just fly around the whole world and aren't bound to anything other than I'M GOING TO DESTROY THE WHOLE WORLD, I'M GOING TO STOP YOU FROM DESTROYING THE WHOLE WORLD BECAUSE THATS MY PURPOSELore and characterization is constantly retconned, ignored, or never followed up on. There's like 3 villains in the entire setting and everyone else just exists doing nothing. It sucks. Granblue sucks!
>>566162895>>566164171It always looked like a Final Fantasy Tactica fangame to me. (Derogatory)
Delilah is such an ugly girl
>>566164996We found him. The gayest guilty gearer
>>566164996Delete this
>>566164996
In ac+r I am trying learn a basic combo. 2H jS jH ad j2H as millia but I often airdash past the opponent or j2H falls out and they airtech before hitting the ground. I am too low relative to my opponent in the air but I cannot figure out how to fix that. Changing what moves I start with on the ground or fill in the air hasn't gotten me much closer. This is against baiken if that matters.
>>566174451we don't play that crap here
>>566174451neutral jump after the 2H instead of jumping forward
>>566156903Cute.
people keep ragequitting on me
>>566190243Deserved for being a Goldlewis player desu
>>566190243Enjoy your last axl bomber
>>566191208>>566191301i play millia rage
>>566191421It's in her fucking name anon, why are you surprised?
>>566191421and you're genuinely surprised people quit on you?
I've never gotten as much ragequits as I have playing as Jam
>>566191714not that guy but brb changing my name to Millia Ragequit right now.
havent played since launch 5 years ago im gonna play MAY
>>566194348BASED
>>566194348Thinking about picking her up myself. Feels built for my Honda brain
>>566196751she's great i'm mashing like a retard and hitting people for half their lifebars
>beat a chipp by the skin of my teeth>give him the rematch >he spurgs out for the next two rounds and I loseKnew I should have hit him with the one and done. Chipps never deserve the rematch.
>>566197430Been playing Pot for the same reason but was feeling like May’s mobility would feel better and result in less lopsided losing matchups. Also cute.
Reached Plat.Setrive becomes a lot less fun when it stops being just mindless limb flailing and people start actually using their character's annoying shit
>>566197462chipp this patch is what people think millia is
How am I above most of y'all in rank? What the actual fuck?
>>566199090Shrimply derank yourself intentionally and return to monke
>>566199395autismno lifebridget
Just got anti aired by Johnnys card throw OD. This game sometimes
>>566199789Too be fair, I'm also basically unemployed at this point.
>jump slayers dandy OH move >slash on the way down>go to continue my combo after landing>slayer recovered fast enough to block and punish meWhat the fuck? Happened three times
>>566199090Yeah Plat is when there started being a lot more back forth in my matches which has made it harder to climb but I guess that means I’m at the correct rank
>blogging trannyhey can we ban this guy? all he does is shit up the general
>>566199090Plat is so weird because it’s a mix of people who semi know what they’re doing and people cheesed their way up the ranks. Ran into a Gio in low Plat today that had never had to deal with Slide Head and got hit 8 times in a row before just putting their controller down
>>566202182It doesn"t matter how many times you report them or for what
>>566202460yeah you can absolutely tell when someone knows more or less what they're doing and when someone just climbed by spamming a gimmick and crumble when someone doesn't fall for it
>>566204424One of my favorites is the I-No that has never had to block.
>>566158953CPU is a good way to certain things about your own character, but the AI is cheating so some stuff is just impossible. Just jump into the game.
BridgetTranny will make me do crazy shit
>>566199395whats your rank friend
So, carry on, love the subhuman BridgetTranny
>>566206841Diamond III
>>566207779then we are the same rank
>tranny hate post got deletedjanny...
>>566202182Let me level with you here: I WISH all the obnoxious shitposters in the other generals I frequent would fill out the Name field.Literally just use filters.
>>566117323I love black women.
>>566200524what slash?maybe he was too tall to connect
What the fuck is wrong with people in low plat I got 4 different one&dones and a nago that plugged after I raped him R1and no, I'm not lagging or playing an overly cancer character
>>566210071>I'm not playing an overly cancer characterName the character
>>566210146who do you think
>>566210308Honest strike-throw-fireball girl I-No?
millia is honest you just have to block the mids
imma b honestI was having some fun mashing my way through silver and gold, near plat it started getting a bit less fun but that's okay, not like I put in any effort however the one & done thing got on my nerves, and besides that there was a clear cut from gold to plat where the queue got 50% slowerI should def draw him someday though. I don't know how daisuke made this over the top neckbears power fantasy cool but he is.MIST FINER
Combo Breaker 2026 entrants.
how come johnny can have his titties out but not i-no?
>>5662126582xko isn't the flop people said it was, huh
>>566212743they literally removed his nipple surgically >>566212859lollmao even
i started strive playing i-no and never felt like her movement was a hinderance but then i stopped playing her and whenever i touch her now I feel like i can't even move
why does this game have so many wifi players
>>566213280when i first tried i-no i thought she would be really hard to learn because of her dash, but it she's honestly really easy. you just step on the gas and mash high attacks no one can react to. what a fraud character.
>>566210071guard crush(johnny) the character is overly cancer and
>>566212658will this have a Robo Ky trailer then?
>>566214087in the game of nago, chipp?don't think so
Strive is the first Guilty Gear I've played since XX, why is Venom now accompanied by... a (mostly) disembodied Robo Ky head?
I can't believe Len got a trailer before Robo Ky
>>566214819Xrd story eventsrefer to this chart
>>566214819
>>566215102kek>>566215085I see...
>Can play Sol at a low gold level>fucking hate playing Sol>Play any other character>Lose to random bronzies pressing random buttons and not doing combos>Feel like gutter trashI hate this game so much
>>566214606A small teaser hopefully but I'm still believe it will be on EVO Las Vegas.
>>566214819https://youtu.be/Z7olRru6Ctg?si=YO_UYYLatjZajELJThis should answer your question
>>566214830I want to play MBAACC but having to use a discord is the slightest bit more effort I can't be fucked
I still can't react to Stinger
>>566216930stinguhhhstinga!stiNGUH
Can someone explain why someone can throw me on my wakeup if I'm mashing 5p
hop on anyway
>>566218205etomashing is.... hard
>>566215389AND I CANT EVEN PLAY A FUCKING MIRROREVERYTHING I FUCKING DO IS WRONGEVERYTHING EVERYONE ELSE DOES IS RIGHTI CANT PRESS ANY FUCKING BUTTONS GOODI'VE WASTED MY ENTIRE FUCKING LIFE AND NOW I'M OLD AND GARBAGE WITH NOTHING TO FUCKING SHOW FOR ITFUCKING POST WALLBREAK FUCKING HMC HITS ME FUCKING BACKDASHINGBECAUSE I JUST DONT HAVE THE FUCKING GENEAND IT DOESNT MATTER HOW MUCH I FUCKING SIT HERE AND SEETHE UNTIL I GET SHOULDER PAINABSOLUTELY NOBODYWILL EVER FUCKING CARETHERE'S NO FUCKING POINT TO PLAYINGTHERE'S NO FUCKING POINT TO GETTING MADSITTING HERE SCREAMING IN A DEAD FUCKING THREAD TO NOBODYGENUINELYTHE ONLY FUCKING THING KEEPING ME FROM FUCKING SUICIDE IS INSTINCT TELLING ME NOT TOTHERE IS LITERALLY NO FUCKING REASON FOR ME TO BE FUCKING ALIVETHIS IS WHY I DO FUCKING NOTHING BUT WORK SLEEP AND FUCKING JERK OFFBECAUSE THIS SHIT IS WHAT HAPPENS WHENEVER I FUCKING DO ANYTHINGSTAMPED DOWN INTO THE FUCKING DIRT AND REMINDED THAT YOU ARE COMPLETELY FUCKING WORTHLESS AND THAT THERE'S NO POINT IN FUCKING TRYING
>>566218205strive reduced the throw immunity on wakeup from 9f to 5f for some reasonmost character's 5P is 5f startupthere is only 1 frame of overlap where 5P is active and you're still throw immune. Throws beat strikes if they connect on the same frame, so if they time their throw to land on the end of your immunity and you are even 1 frame late on your mash or you're playing a character with a slow 5P the throw will win
DENIALDENIALLA SOLA ESTONECO
i play aba so even if you win, it's still a moral victory for me because i work harder than you and more loyal than you because i haven't dropped my main after she was executed by arcsys
>>566221179(You)
not enough people are seeing the sex appeal of tokon peni
i do not see tokon at all because I do not look at it
>>566221179Based. I started 2.0 with ABA, picked up half a dozen other characters but have made my way back to her. Shes still fun as fuck and honestly it feels rewarding
after strive i wanted a cooler higher mobility game from arcsys instead tokon seems even babier than strive so i'm kinda ambivalenti also think the artstyle honestly sucks
not enough people are seeing the sex appeal of tokon penis
>>566222051the only high mobility game you are getting is MBTL 2, sorry.
>>566222737>>566222051UMMM TUCO?
>>566164171What a weirdly invested post
>>566222898>tuecks>high mobilitylmaoooooooo
>>566222051I don't mind the art style, it's better than most capeshit at least, and the movement seems okay if kinda basic, but the tag mechanics will detract from it a lot and the combos look mind numbingly boring even after the changes so we'll see how it turns out. I'm definitely not getting it on launch at least.
Watching the anime and it's shitWTF were they thinking?
>>566222051>tokon seems even babier than striveHow so? It has bigger combos, a real air dash, and all the additional assist nonsense that comes with tag fighters
>>566223198it's uniqlo-era guilty gear
>>566222964most people that adamantly hate a gacha at some point played it and then got burnt
>>566223198>watching anime at alllulz
>>566223242pretty much mandatory simple inputs and very little skill expression to be had according to people who have played it you can be fast-paced and degenerate with simple inputs but i've heard more than one person who's played it call it "strive 2"
>>566223367i forgot strivers hate anime
she should have been in an enclosed mechand when it's final, final round, and Peni wins at below 30% health, she opens the cockpit drenched in sweat
>>566223526and bigots too!
marvel rivals is the only game that got peni right spdr is supposed to be an EVAspider-verse is cool and all but they did her dirty
>>566223662she's basically been a different character since spider-verse happened though ngl it's hard to get upset when she barely has any comic history
>>566223357I've played Epic 7 but not granblueHave you SEEN what real granblue looks like
>>566223242NTA but there’s zero chance the game is going to have more depth than usual while requiring players learn four characters. Tag fighters inherently water shit down and end up much more systems based. It being Marvel + Modern ArcSys means they’re also going to want the broadest appeal possible
Do we really need Robo-Ky...
>>566223526Most people do
>>566164171nigga half the shit you typed is even worse in soive have you SEEN this game's lore
>>566224542It could be robo ky isuka. Mimicry mokujin type shit and
>>566224630Where did I say Strive was better?
Xrd or Strive
>>566224835xrd with a dash macro would be pretty sick......
>>566224830I mean if that's the deal-breaker to you it feels weird to play a game that's even worse it's like saying "I hate simple fighters" as a reson to not play gbvs then go play divekick
>>566224542only if it's done by the guy who did Slayer
>>566224820and XX robo ky moveset and meter.
>>566224630GG has style, character and an artistic vision at least though. GranBlue is the product of all the worst shitty predatory gacha trends of the current era
>>566225341lol
I like Grub charactersI like Guilty Gear charactersAnime characters are cool
>>566225797Get back to your containment thread Granpooer
I love Aya Hirano
what would necro do if you pulled dizzy's tail full force
>>566226027Regardless of our rivalry, we can all agree: rat sexo.
>>566226302WE accept grubbers here lil bro
>>566226439W-w-we have Manaka Iwami...
You know Strive is good because everyone is actually playing the game and the only people posting in here are GranBlue players
I feel like they need to fucking buff 6Ps but at the same time some 6Ps are so incredibly disgusting and degenerate that they just should ever get any better.Like right now there's several characters without any good anti-air, and 6P is too slow, too weak and can't even reliably anti-air against all characters.
>>566226963So... are you a Granblue player too?
>>566226452isn't the tail a familiar too? i think that would skewer you before necro gets to you
>>566225037>>566224630https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5B8jAstOzzc
>>566227698I’m just here for the horny images
>>566224835Xrd if you're willing to put in the effort to learn it and don't mind a more limited but still varied pool of opponents, Strive if you just want to start mashing in ranked
>>566228105NARWHALS NARWHALS
>>566226963>host Strive lobby >it's all Granblue players
>>566226581I want to fuck this mouse.
>>566228807Yes, people who actually like fighting games tend to play more than one.
can the Millia that keeps bullying me in low DR just... stop jobbing against other people? pls and thanks, get the fuck out of my elo range pretty please
I wouldn't wish xrd on my worst enemy
>>566229058How is Xrd "le bad"?
I understand why people who preferred the older games wouldn’t like Strive but I don’t really get why you’d play Xrd and not just XX
>>566211970TRUKE
>>566224835+r or strive xrd is not an option
>>566228841I have a confession to make to my fellow rats. I don't think vikala is sexy. I'm sorry.....
any fighting game under 2000 players is not worth my time, sorry not sorry
>>566229679This doesn't make sense because a zoomie's time is worthless.
>>566228807anon... what thread did the granblue players come from...
>>566228852>>566230219the joke is that grub players are the only ones playing this game
>>566230324before they were grubs they were striversit is the natural lifecycle that they once again become strivers
>>566222051Somehow I forget every time that Tokon has pre-round movement. Then I go watch a match, get hit with that shit and instantly feel visceral disgust Shit almost makes me hurl
>>566225020i remember daru saying this and the twitter mafia executed him for wrong think
>>5662276156P is already as strong as a universal anti-poke thanks to dash macroone could even argue them clipping cS hitboxes was recognizing that all the additional baggage made jump-ins suicide even without 6P
I just hit 43K BP, and I ranked down a May! Life is good.
>>566232771what does the dash button have to do with anything? 6P was always a strong counter-poke in gear since it's designed to beat fS as well as being an anti-air
>>566232819RP*, don't know why I called it BP.
6P is gay guilty gear is gay i am gay
>>566232925>what does the dash button have to do with anything?anon...and I don't ever remember 6P being this strong, granting a 20-25f COUNTER window against everything being encapsulated by hurtboxes in Strive
>>566233546I'm gay>*Stav laugh*
>>566233634yeah i don't actually believe the dash button is responsible for every issue in this game.I remember just running around mashing 6P as ky in +R hoping to CH someone into the 6H loop and it working decently well. People have better movement and could avoid it but as far as direct move interactions went 6P was fucking great.The main thing I can compare is that the frame data varied a lot more. Anji's 6P was 18 frames which is ridiculous in a game like +R but it had other benefits to make up for it, while strive is more standardized so you are more encouraged to slap 6P in situations.
>>566233634no, retard humor me why is the dash macro the problem?holy shit you retarded ass faggots are worse than SF boomers that think hitbox is cheating
>game from 2006>has a dash macrostrivvers BTFOed lmaooooooo
how am I supposed to get in on dizzy? she shits out a million flame orbs and ice projectiles and if I try to dashblock my way in she just does spams michael sword which has a ton of pushback
>>566235013just IB the sword
>>566235013ah, just like her mother...
>>566235013hold down back until she gets bored and tries to run her meme pressure on you
>>566235013ah, just like her daughter...
>>566234397dash macro allowed all the PS4 newfags to jump around the first beta pulling off IAD jump-ins before they ever learnt about 6PArc responded to newfag cries about jump-ins and consequently added that magic circle delay on top of severe air action penalties, then making jump-ins suicideif you also remember, they were swayed by some internal investigations on why 2D fighters were unpopular, with the conclusion being air combat/air interactions was "too scary"and hitboxes are cheating to me, but shit's just a video game
>>566235106it still a pretty large amount of pusback and she seems to be able to safely blockstring into it from her huge normals
>>566235470sorry I was just shitposting. I have yet to fight a dizzy since coming back to the game
>>566232771>anti-pokeand okay but about anti-airing nigga, 6P on most characters gives little to no reward, is massively unsafe (in a game where it's extremely easy to air stall and some characters have multiple, safe, layered options to do so), and on top of all that tons of jump buttons or specials just outright beat 6P
>>566235405airdash startup was added before the first PSN beta. It was to nerf delayed airdash mixups. It had nothing to do with easy IADs.
If all it takes for your game to fall apart is pressing one button instead of two, your game is fucking trash
Could've said that since half a decade ago.
>>5662356706P countering rewards a "medium" counter if not HKD, and just putting someone in air blockstun grants like 20f rollover blockstun5P is there to just as well check jump-ins safely, since this shit's Tekkenthey could probably nerf attack level to make 6Ps safer, but "neutral" against many long range characters have already become preemptive 6P COUNTER fests
the other day i was thinking why the back dash invul was so low, and while the dash macro is definitely part of it, the other part i think is because you can backdash and block out of a run and run skid, when you couldn't before. i remember thinking the older games felt like running in tar, because no one told me what fd breaking was. so they streamlined it for dumb people like me.
FD braking is a dumb mechanic
>>566230704i don't even really see what the problem would be at the moment, we have multiple fast airdasher fighters with dash macros at this point. 2ko, tokon, invincible, i think even avatar right? i honestly think that 66 is a huge part of what filters people in fast-paced fighting games moreso than motion inputs. being comfortable with movement is such a fundamental aspect of the game
You're a dumb mechanic.
>>566241251i wish i was a mechanic that seems like a stable career
>>566241141Xrd specifically it's less about just being a fast airdash fighter and more that stuff like Venom dashing carcass raid and slayer shenanigans were just not intended to be doable with one button
>>566241270same desu
>>566235758I admit I can't remember that early, but I do remember they allowed people to touch console setups at tournament venues, plus that invite-only gathering full of western influencers (like Woolie), and collected feedback from everyoneit very well could have been due to easy IADs with whatever justification to make them weaker/discourage use, along with all the additional penaltiesbefore they freed up air gatlings, the "best" IAD jump-in on some characters were even deliberately negative to be punished on landing
would soive benefit from having more "just frame" versions of attacks? right now the only example of such a move in the game is faust's scapel pull but faust is such an irrelevant piece of shit that it doesn't matter
>>566241624god that UI is something else, i know strive's late dev was suffering from covid but what were they on
>>566212658>mystery game??????
>>566241808More challenging executions would be nice.
>>566241808i think they should make ram's dauro bnbs require the electric because i think it would be funny
>>566242010I agree, if like green dauro didn't cause additional gravity scaling it'd be the funniest shit, watching ram go corner the corner just with the power of execution would be really cool but ram in her current iteration is literally designed around ease of mastery so it's hopeless
>>566241904They were thinking the game would be a hit if it looked like a mobile game.
>>566241270What if you were Wild Assault...
>>566242479they keep having these harebrained ideas for how to achieve long-term success for the seriesSOME mechanical simplification is a good idea but there needs to be mastery to chase like how shooters have an infinite skill ceiling, making everything easy like them thinking to remove potemkin karas is braindeadbut they just need to make the game a cool spectacle that is fun to play. make people enthusiastic about the characters and learning the game. i don't think an anime was a bad idea but it just ended up demonstrating how they've lost the plot on what's cool about GG
>>566243016What IS cool about GG?
>>566025070I cant see how they could keep her in this state. She's free for nearly half the cast and struggles with the other half. I won't be surprised if they just leave like this. If they do im just gonna go back to playing Pot.
>>566243016I won't be surprised if they reset the storyline after the next GG.
>pick ABA>get absolutely and utterly raped round 1>round 2>still getting raped>rematch>finally have enough info on the opponent's habits to commit to high risk options and somehow finally manage to get into her install>they guess right on a mixup once>blockstring into guaranteed punish>dieIs she the most dogshit character of all time?
>>566243761over the top vaguely metal/fantasy characters/setting, a bit of edgy attitude helps explosive high-mobility gameplay with unique character mechanics and lots of room to learn morethe animationsoundtrack
>>566243761Kuso gameplay with cool characters, and great music, while all my favorite anime voice actors ham it out.
>>566244041i haven't played aba for a long time (long before the nerfs) and it is genuinely insane to me that anyone could earnestly look at "instant guaranteed punish if you take a blockstring in JR" and think "yes this makes sense and is a reasonable level of risk/reward in the context of strive aba"
>>566244041I have no idea why they took away all the sauce she had in normal state. Like, adding Suka Motion back in and the nerf the her round start JR meter was already huge in toning her down a bit but everything else just makes accessing her gimmick feel impossible at times. She can still win but its clear they went way too far with the nerfs.
>>566244190is me doing iad j.h at my friend with order sol until it works "kuso"???
was ABA top top tier before 2.0, why was she singled out for the execution squad?
>>566244801Yes, and so is this combo.
>>566246086lol risc
>>566245480No she was mid/upper mid tier. She had some good matchups and some bad ones. However, most ABAs would immediately just jump into JR mode at round start due to already having 50% meter. So they would basically skip normal mode which to be fair, kind of made the whole "Feast or Famine" mute. Limiting her round start JR meter to 25% i think was a good change as it at least forced you to be in Normal State for a bit before going into JR. Hell id be fine with some of the other nerfs as well, but all of them combined just makes playing her an awful experience. I have no idea why they nerfed how much meter she gets, or the nerf to her parry. Fuck man, pic related is literally unusable now and wasnt even that good before the nerfs. Her combo potential from her overhead special also got nerfed.
>>566245480she was really good and sort of a ranked demon but ate shit against some zoners iirc
>>566246612>strong character with clearly defined weaknesswhy do modern fighter devs hate this archetype so much?>>56624649050% meter at round start is retarded yeah
>>566246758gief is/was sort of that but I think he might've fallen off when they made literally every single one of his hurtboxes worse, was A-tier but got blown up by dhalsim
>>566246885speaking of which, why is Pot treated as royalty in Strive?
>>566247187is he? he was a meme character for the majority of the game's lifetime, they nuclear buffed him when they removed and then brought back karas but they eventually started nerfing him again
>>566247274I thought he's always in the upper tier even in this patch, which is unheard of for a 2D grappler
is this your top tier?
>>566247373absolutely not, he was consistently bottom 5 in strive save maybe the initial introduction of WWA and when they tried to revamp him and remove karas only to get screamed out for removing the mechanical autism from one of the premier mechanical autism characters. i haven't heard people talk about how good he is now much but he seems like he's better than he used to be generally
returning fag herewas pre-2.0 ABA really that bad?as bad as +R Moroha ABA with 50 meter and Burst to rape your attempt at a counterattack on meter empty and/or invalidate a knockdown?
>>566247679the big problem as others have said is that she started with 50% jealous rage meter so she could just pop pretty much on roundstart and if she successfully mauled you with her high low for 50% and wallbreak her resource management didn't matter because she just made it all back she was overbearing and would win tournaments but i don't think it was "this character needs to be killed harder than happy chaos" bad at all
>>566247495genuinely what could she even have done in that situation?
>>566247274I saved this thing for a reason.
>>566248226blame the beasts (trannies)
>>566248557>command grabs are no longer throw invul which hurts pot more than anyone in the entire gamedoesn't it hurt nago more considering how nago typically uses bite (teleporting on top of you and doing strike/throw)i think they're going to revert the command grab change desu
>>566248729>>566248557I think it hurts Pot least of every command grab character actuallyHe is the most likely to be out of throw range while attempting a command grab, and has the best ways to punish bad reversal throw attempts
>>566248729big if true
>>566247373>unheard of for a 2D grapplerShut up idiot
>>566247495Strive literalluy is just missing link with better graphics.
>>566249048how do i pick justice
>>566249078She's DLC, so you have to buy her. She's a lot better and more functional than in her missing link form.
Is Azrael or Ragna a better gorilla
>>566251069Ragna, by virtue of having versatile and powerful DPs that can be used in the air.
>>566250562zooey... your onion...
>tfw made it to Vanquisher with ABAIm in a good mood. Have a picture of my childhood cat /ggg/
>>566246086he still had damage in the tank btw, with precise charging he could've done cS 5H [2]8HS for a bit more damage(and by a bit I mean a lot more because the risc ran out like two hits ago)
>>566251069it's easier to knowledge check people with azrael so play him if you want to think less
>>566252820Beautiful kot
>>566248226super jump, aba was just a retard magnet for the past years
>>566247495This might be the bravest bridget player ive seen
>>566241270its not as good as you would think it is.
>be xturdfag>decide to lab>use the external labbing tools(in this case it's the reversal tool)>try to set the AI to IB>throw os>first attempt blitz comes out>fuck around>try again>this time the AI gets the 6SH throw input out properly but now it won't throw me, even though I'm clearly in throw rangethis game sucks I want my money back
is lucy still bad
>>566246758the only zoner aba lost to was dizzy, parry + rotating command dash and hop kick + the raw amount of meter she would get for doing anything ensured she could just barrel through all of them including axl. ice floor was the only thing that forced her to actually interact with zoning
is it normal that I as a Leo have trouble with zoners like Axl and Dizzy?
>>566259973dizzy is probably leo's worst matchup
if guilty gear 2 is so good why isn't there a third one?
>>566259973Leo has trouble getting in against most characters with range
>>566261037They are low key spitting
>>566261037strivers are oppressed
any good Millia player to follow on X and Youtube?
I wonder who at Arc actually still gives a flying fuck about this game
>>566265859It's their current flagship game what do you expect?
>>566266117tokon will eclipse this for sure, and they know it
>Making a third party license as the #1 representative of the company
>>566268496cmon son
>>566264786jimbona and konakon
>>566268995>>566269436worked for marvel rivals
>Suddenly unable to execute a combo I've been doing for monthsSomebody save me.
>>566275018Porn induced gene damage.
>>566243861Hey I’m a Pot/ABA main too. Wonder if there’s some throughline there that makes them appeal to someone
