Nerf Raiders - editionPrevious: >>565462365>News & updateshttps://arcraiders.com/en/news/>ResourcesItemshttps://arcforge.org/Skill Tree Builderhttps://arcskilltree.com/Interactive Mapshttps://metaforge.app/arc-raiders/maphttps://arcraidersmaps.app/Event Timershttps://metaforge.app/arc-raiders/event-timersKey Card locationshttps://imgur.com/a/s9YtLXR
>>566045881Doesn't seem so bad in retrospect.
>>566046241>whining before playing the game or testing it yourselfA frequent ocurrence.
>gear up in a solo round>this retarded game spawns me with 16 minutes left right next to two guys who are teamed in a solo round>they instantly attack me >kill one but the other one kills me Really fun game
>>566048142haha get fucked
dead game
New all-time low in playerbase today. All-time peak was now half a year ago. Steady downtrend in playerbase that was temporarily broken by the update, only to go right back to the same downtrend a few days later. Ouch.
>>566049197it's only going to get worsehave 300 hours in this game and have 0 damage for the expeditionprobably do it and never play again... maybe check back in a year
>>566049197>>566048560>dead game>still has over 100k CCUI don't think you know what dead is.
>>566049197you know you can get paid to analyze metrics and trends and stuff and provide updates at shareholder meetings as a career?
>>566049197Kek I'm hitting Cantina Legend for sure
>>566050685Only if you don't have shit takes, which that anon does.
>players have grinded for the same guns and items for 6 months>every item the devs added since launch have been meme items or utter flops>bro why are people bored with the game i dont get it
>>566052339Not to mention if a gun/item is good or fun, autists complain about it on reddit 24/7 until it gets nerfed
>>566045881There really are only 3 guns that fire heavy ammo in the game. I wonder what other heavy guns we could see to increase variety?Maybe a 2nd scoped rifle, but with a 5 round mag like an AWP or something. I wonder how much weapon variety is even affordable in the game. Seems like all there even is to add is just other gun types but with a different bullet.>Here have another compact SMG but in Medium ammo>And this is a shotgun but it uses Energy ammo
>>566052521Nah the Venator and Torro nerfs were good. They should've given the Dolabra the old Torro power scaling. That would have made it fun and worthwhile. They should have made the Descender useful, maybe even make it a jetpack of sorts. Canto I think is fine, better than a Stitcher worse than a Bobcat but a little fragile and introduced late into the wipe when people already had Bobcats so no real excitement for adding in a worse version of a gun a lot of people had.>>566053292People just like seeing different gun models even if they're all functionally the same and fulfill the same role. They badly need to fill out the pink tier lineup, no pistol, no heavy ammo gun, no sniper, no HMG/LMG.
>>566053292>>566053994Canto could use the bettina treatment (lower rof more damage), the ammo efficiency is horrible.After all it's supposed to be a "heavy" smg
Anyone need a Jupiter BP?
>>566052339How do you make aspirational, ultra-high value chase items in a game with no cross-player trade market?Trade market ruins every extraction shooter by turning it into an over-under line graph go brrrrr, backpack value minmax simulator where the primary economic advantage is to commit item prices to memory gooder and take that knowledge into a raid.Fresh -> get l00t -> hodl -> number go up -> repeat from step 2 until bored -> come back next wipe.Heart of Africa with $1M speranza coin value would serve little purpose in Arc. The real big ticket item would be an uber-rare, world loot only Gun of Awesomeness that only 0.5% of players will ever hold.One must imagine the current playerbase's reaction to such an addition.
>>566055636>How do you make aspirational, ultra-high value chase items in a game with no cross-player trade market?By making them good and fun to use. Nobody wants to use Combat Aug and throw that shit away even if they pick up a BP for it. People get excited for survivor aug because its the BiS and good at what it does. Nobody is excited for arpeggio but people are excited for bobcats.>The real big ticket item would be an uber-rare, world loot only Gun of Awesomeness that only 0.5% of players will ever hold.This would also be a good thing to add. A loot only gun would do wonders for the game, of course the gun has to be GOOD and not some dogshit item like the surge coil.
>>566050685yea but that guy is obviously retarded>yea we lost 80% of our players!!!!>"anon are you retarded, that's not how statistics works, I didnt even go to college for stats and I know that"
>>566056780I never said any of those things, you weird freak. I merely pointed out the all-time low in playerbase occurred today, which is factual, and the all-time peak was now half a year ago (also factual). There is also a downtrend in the game's playerbase, which was temporarily broken by the update, but then went right back to a downtrend (slightly hyperbolic, but still factual). If you want to argue any of these points, be my guest, but don't put words in my mouth because you're a stupid faggot who spent too much time playing this dying game.
>>566057625why would I waste time arguing with a retard
he said, arguing with a retard gayly
>>566057773>here's a made-up quote that you said >"I never said that">I'm not going to argue with you! Ok man
>>566057773he's reaching enlightenmenthttps://www.youtube.com/shorts/fmWzTijZhd4>>566057625you are right
Arc Raiders needs a golden loot-only AK47.
>>566057773>>566058172
any shareholders in the chat who give a shit?
>>566053292Osprey could easily be heavy ammo.
>>566063072Osprey should be heavy ammo, but it shouldnt do heavy ammo damage.They should also make the anvil medium ammo instead and pull back on its ability to remove armor from hornets and fireflys so easily.They should make a pink anvil that reloads one round at a time and is the new heavy armor destroyer.
>>566063969
>>566049197Starting my trials tonight since nobody is playing anymore
>>566063969>They should also make the anvil medium ammo instead and pull back on its ability to remove armor from hornets and fireflys so easily.Thats renegade nigga
>>566049197So whats happening?People realized that extraction shooters are shit?
>>566069238should be fine, if other ppl are like me and doing the wipe, we're fucking bored and waiting for the expedition now
>>566069618That doesn't work with the flank augment now does it nigga
cool, cool
>>566070420why would you want to touch anvil armor penetration when the biggest issue about it isn't even on the pve side of things
>>566070702What makes you think that a common rarity weapon should have more ripping power than a pink? It's like you guys are afraid of balance and it's the lamest shit about this general.
>>566070881>commonwhat?bettina strips faster, hullcracker outright kills most targetsferro technically has the same stripping power as anvil, just does it sloweri guess anvil could be made blue because it does overperform a slight bit for its tier, but it works as a weapon concept fine
>>566071382>it works as a weapon concept is finenot really, it's a crutch in common abused by casual gamer dads and should not be ripping armor from miles away, or at all, regardless if it was made blue.I do agree that increasing the crafting cost would be a step in the right direction for anvil, but it needs to be toned down far more. Last weeks durability burn upgrade clearly wasn't enough.
>>566072380i'm more concerned about the aids-tier headshot modifiers combined with the firerate on it and (especially) renegade where you can get raped from 100m out before even reaching cover just 10m awayalthough most pvp issues go away if shields get buffed, so that might not even need any adjustmentsyou could also just reduce the impact of +firerate upgrades on most weapons (anvil especially), because those are egregious in their own way preventing usage of weapons below tier 4 just because of how big the performance gap is
I can't tell if ya'll are joking or not but I don't know how many nerfs I got left in me fellas. I keep adapting, but I'm not having anymore fun. I'm playing out of sunk cost fallacy at this point.
>>566075395The balance is okay as it forces people to use pink/gold guns now, but the lack of regular map events is killing my interest in the game really quickly.Every time I'm on there's only close scrutiny (boring & useless) or hidden bunker (boring & useless). Then Harvester/Matriarch come around and you only get to play it twice and then it's over until the next day.Why are they so fucking stringy with events? Why do they hate us having fun?Also lately it seems the timer runs out really quickly before I can finish any map puzzle because I always ARC on my ass 24/7 making me lose time, so once the puzzle is finished I need to extract.It's terrible what they're doing to this game, LET ME HAVE FUUUNNN.
>>566078050I don't really fuck with the pink/gold guns. If it wasn't for safekeeper I would have lost a few jupiters to bobcat fags shooting me in the back. I don't particularly want to play this game like it's fortnite.
>>566078050Can you log on now so hidden bunker shows up? >>566070628
>>566081324What's even there to do in Hidden Bunker? There's no loot.
>>566046351>play the game myself for days>it's bad>now an extra 20 slots in my storage are reserved just for repair material instead of planning out when I need to get itI love when my weapons fall apart in real time.
>>566082858Trials.
>>566082858+10 minutes for trials
>>566073628Thank fuck someone else said it. The ROF upgrades in each weapon are egregious. There's literally no point in using a Renegade 1, and there's no point in NOT using a Renegade 4. Meanwhile, guns that don't have a ROF bonus (Burletta my beloved) can be used at 1 and they're comfy and fun.
This nigger had better give me good shit.
>>566078050>lack of regular map events is killing my interest in the game really quicklyYeah.
>>566045487Can you remove the key card locations Link? Riven Tides isn't on there.For the next op, I mean
>>566049197Nintendo won. Arc Raiders lost
>>566078050Haven't played a Nintendo game since that ugly retard said this. They're not fun. So why bother?
>>566082858Its for getting the Vulcano blueprint elsewhere on the map while people rush to an empty bunker.
>>566093653not OP this time, but if I make the next one I'll try to remember
>>566082858there are a few containers in the bunker that are high value and chance of good stufflike red lockersor white boxsotherwise what that other anon said about volcano blueprint
>>566093653>>566094840Honestly all the links should be replaced with metaforge links. I can't think of anything they don't already have, and it's easier to have one bookmark for a game than several
>>566049197Nothing to do right now but wait. Why they made it 10 days to do 100k damage I will never know, had that shit done on 1st day.
>>56609652914 days dudeI'm so fucking boredat least leveling up gives me something to do for a few weeks after expedition
>check trials>1 away from no promotion>still going to be in DDII this weekbased
>>566096942I'm considering buying a 3rd account
>>566060493Fag
>>566102486dont ever goonpost at me again
>>566102828Fuck you bitch
>>566102828>dont ever goonpost at me againKek
>>566102828dont ever goonpost at me again
>>566069721Extraction shooters have always been niche. I still think Arc Raiders can hold a solid audience but it was never going to stick around as the #1 game or anything. Aside from the story/lore Marathon honestly plays kind of bad with a lot of very dumb design decisions. Arc's issue is that it's too shallow at the moment in every respect, The player interaction was doing a large amount of the heavy lifting and the PVP/PVE player segregation kind of killed that.
>>566102486>celestefag AND footfagNTA but you should kys. She's not good looking at all.
so how does the deranking system work? do ranks only start degrading at a certain rank or do they degrade at all?
>open a container>blueprint >look at that one of the new items >Checkmark >Wait what?I already got it and completely forgot about it. The new bps are just absolute filler. I'm just guessing but I think it's to dilute the bp pool fucking everyone over
>>566109582you will lose 1 rank each week if you don't get enough points to maintain your position or promote
so does anyone wanna be my raider gf now
>>566083063>faggot keeps garbage in amounts he doesn't need because he's paranoid that the game might force him to use a purple weapon once in his life
>>566112089so what would be the smoothest way to be dd3 or hotshot at season end? try to do 1 or 2 ranks a week instead of trying to 3 star everything?
>>566118051it mostly comes down to timing, when you get your first trial points during a week determines what bracket you get placed inlower ranks are going to be easy to promote from, getting to daredevil by the end of the season shouldn't be that hardthe last week is important though, you want to be in position to get your last promotion or hold your rank, so depending on how autistic you want to be about it, you can just not play the entire week until the last few hours before it ends and score as much as you can in that windowcan be risky though since there will be others trying to do the same
>blast full mag of equalizer into the side panel towards the matriarch's backside>snap hook inside>get as close as you can to the core by climbing>crouch so you fit inside real close>spam melee + 30 adrenaline>get this scoreIf no one else was attacking, I would've easily gotten double if not more
bastion of peace
>see Bastion walking route through streets of Buried City>place jolt mine on the path further forward from the doorway I'm hiding in, to take into account the activation distance>watch in third person as the jolt mine triggers as planned>about to run out to deadline the back>instantly snaps to me through the wall and starts spraying at meThey call this "Gay Intelligence", or GAY-I for short.
>expedition about to happen>lets have some fun with my gear>gear up with a maxed out osprey>load into riven tides>zip up onto the chimney by the beach>take pot shots at the people combing the beach>get like 3 or 4 guys trying to take me downthis shit is fun but holy shit pve players are so pathetic>eventually get circled and knocked as I've got no places to hide up there>the guys that got me are genuinely livid, screaming FUCKING RAT, YOU FUCKING LOSER, FUCK YOUR MOM, FUCK YOUR DAD>when all I did was shoot some shields out, I never even knocked knocked someoneABMM was a mistake, because holy crap it turned players into the whiniest pieces of shits
>>566122236>normies moralizing vidiya instead of acting out the experiencemany such cases, unfortunately
>>566122236this shit right here is exactly my issue with the game. i want to shoot people, but i have to always consider lobby retaliation
>>566122545>this is my issue with the game>i want to shoot people but I'm afraid of people shooting back
>>566122236>losing to PvE players with a osprey, high ground and first shot advantageHow the fuck do you even lose?
>>566127424>1v20nta, but it's like russian wave tactics during ww2, no matter how skilled your troops are you will eventually lose due to an insurmountable numbers disadvantage
Anvil blueprint 4 days before reset is very useful
My friend isn't going to be able to do the expedition... so I'm going to get him to mule for me!
>>566130193lightyears ahead of you chump
>>566107302APOLOGIZE!
>start playing 2 days ago>played about 40+ games>got shot by 1 guy in one of my first games>never shoot other raiders >i've never been shot at againIs this the pve matchmaking i've been hearing about?
>>566137986yea, just dont shoot at other people and you pretty much stay thereonly things I've noticed are>looting dead bodies sometimes makes the game think you are hostileand then I will see mixed lobbiesand>making your loadout more expensive can put you in mixed lobbiesmany stories of someone going>"hmmm today I will finally use my Jupiter">first match shot in the back>"wtf, I thought I was in friendly lobbies"
>>566122236it's really weird that you make a post like this and call others pathetic and whiny
>>566122236I'm sure you're just joking, but part of being a non-sociopath is considering empathizing>LMAO EVERYONE IS MAD AT ME JUST FOR SHOOTING OUT THEIR SHIELDSwhen you could be like>huh why is everyone mad at me and freaking out>ohhh all these people have the expectation of friendly lobbies and I'm being that guy>oh well I'll have some fun anyway, but I'm not oblivious to why these people are acting this wayThose same players are completely fine with PvP if they signed up for it and are expecting it
>>566141396what he's talking about isn't even pvp, it's griefing
>>566141838yea, kind of trying to explain why those players are madit doesn't feel like fun pvp, it feels like griefingbut most of the time those players that get mad at pvp in pvpve, are still ok with pvp, when it feels fair
Alright I got my supplies for the expedition done and signed up for it in less than a week after coming back (still only level 29). How best to deal 100,000 damage to Arc in a few days? Hullcracker runs on Riventide?
>>566145612>Hullcracker runs on Riventide?pretty much
>>566130193I have considered buying a second account for it but don't have a second computer to run the game. Although the only blueprint I am worried about is the hullcracker since I despise having to play the awful early quests to unlock it again and it'sthe main force-multiplier that makes unlocking everything else easier. Mostly it's just a huge chore to rebuild the benches.
>>566145612I like doing Matriarch/Queen runs. You can easily get tons of damage applied.
>>566145612that or queen, easy 6k runs for practically no effort other than getting to it if you spawn at the ass end of the map
I was in every kitchen in buried city and it wasn't enough
>>566141396nice try psychoanalyzing mebut my>ABMM was a mistakeis here because I already know it made players feel entitled to safetythey signed up for PvP the moment they bought a PvPvE game with unrestricted player combat'>>566140470I wouldn't say it's weird at all, I'm human too, I occasionally need to vent as wellI went into a raid just to poke some fun and was met with genuine toxicity >>566127424when did I imply I was trying to win?if it was me, I'd see the guy sniping at people from the top of a high tower as a fun raid event, not piss and shit my pants because someone dared to shoot at meit was the people that made ARC Raiders a special game, ABMM has largely removed those organic encounters and have replaced them with a routine
>>566146152I dont think I'm hitting cantina legend this week with mothers day weekend, but I heard you need to be keyed up for a sick buried city kitchen cab score.>ranked competitive drawer opening
>>566121386They increased the accuracy of bastions from my estimation You could get caught out in the open before and duck, run dodge roll into safety. Now? Forget it. It melts you in a second or two.
>>566147579Are you saying the developers increased the bastion's accuracy and made it more challenging?That almost sounds like you're accusing them of an artificial difficulty increase, but we know better than that right raiders?
https://arcraiders.com/news/ensuring-fair-play
>>566147579patch 1.26: "Fixed a bug where the Bastion could be too accurate when switching targets mid-fire."
>>566148682Interesting. Haven't noticed that because there were too deadly before this. That's why I avoided them like crazy.
>>566148682Bastion grilled my shield and 3/4 of my health with high ground and 90% cover at buried city hospital last night, he's still a bitch to deal with
>>566148924>>566149001I've been seeing advice to knock out it's legs first so it can't turn, then run up with the deadline
>>566149161I know I'm trust me bro'ing this one, but it was a duos last night vs the bastion near the raider hatch on buried city - you can fight him from what looks like awesome cover on the 2nd floor.We took every leg out except his back 2 and it was still sniping the fuck out of us. Killed it, but it was horrifyingly accurate even on fire with 2 legs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZec3GcAV4YThis kid is using cheats and absolutely sucks ass at the game but still easily kills everyone. Just a total dogshit game. Do you know how hard it would be to get this kid banned, too? It took embark like 4 months to crack down on cheaters. Now with the game only having like 30K players left, they won't even bother
>>566149782taking out its legs doesn't stop it from turning forever
>>566150874I'm commenting on the fact that embark says they adjusted the bastion's bug to hyperfocus on raiders when switching targets. It was switching between two targets on high ground with incredible cover and still chewing through the both of us if we weren't excessively careful.
>>566141396>Those same players are completely fine with PvP if they signed up for it and are expecting itthey should always be expecting PvP, the safety is intoxicating.
>>566152872I just don't want another KoS game, I'd play BattleField, Fortnite, or some other dogshit with a bigger playerbase and higher skill ceiling.
>>566153029well then make incentives for active cooperation, whatever we have now isn't co-op it's kumbaya-tier cope
>>566153858Best I can do is fomo cosmetics locked behind the top 1000 kitchen cabinet openers
Not to shabby from me can do better.
>>566155234>49kLegend. I think metaforge had 1000th place at around 48k when I checked last night
>>5661552341 week closer to that army raider fat ass>>566155484Don't want cantina, I like the hotshot one enough.
My life improved when I stopped caring about trials, and as it turns out not doing them expressly is still placing me somewhat high, high enough to get whatever trinkets it may give.
>>566155910Based chillanon.Games should be enjoyed, grind or not.
>>565803947Every fucking day.Wow Close Scrutiny is now on Dam, how exciting.
>>566157034Do the Dam swamps trial on scrutiny and kill surveyors. They give 1k+ per kill...
>>566157034Anon... the 2x modifier was removed with the update
>>566160015>less enemy spawnsstoopid
>>566160234You specifically said 2x, retard
general sucks game sucks
>>566161968Mind leaving so it improves?
>>566162657No I'm compounding the terrible
>>566155910if you honestly care about trials youre a dumb person
>>566163023I want to unlock cosmetics, they're the only thing you keep post expedition
>>566163023>cosmetics locked behind participation ribbonsUnfortunately fomo is an effective engagement tool and some of the cosmetics are better than a lot of the shop still.>>566147992They might as well just spam weekly ban reports like pubg lol impotent news.
>redditors throwing hissy fits that people are "misusing" the term rat as if words don't mean different things across gameshttps://www.reddit.com/r/ArcRaiders/comments/1t60lbj/
Matriarch and Harvester are going down in 3 minutes now.
>>566170031Now? Been like that for months.
>>566170000>as if words don't mean different things across gamessame genre with the same definition excluding this game because it's filled with braibdead retards whose only weapon is public shaming
>>566170472>same genre with the same definition excluding this gameexactly, glad you agree
>>566170000go back
>>566170682>can't readgo back
>>566170689>>566170759Been here longer than you probably, obviously I omitted the rest of your post because it's retarded
>>566170943if I wanted to browse your fag website i'd kill myself
>>566170943>been here longer than you>still can't make the casual = stupid connection
>>566171137You think only casuals use the term rat differently? God damn, you really are a fucking moron then.
>>566171674fuck off rat
>>566172317I suppose that means you're admitting defeat if rat means anyone the kills ya
>>566171674usually the one who calls someone a rat is just seethingnot every idiot is a casual, but every casual is one
>>566172980Nope, it's pretty specific. Someone that attacks another in a friendlier lobby.
>>566172680nice cope rabbi
>>566173670I accept your concession
>>566173659>he didn't pvp enough to hear it being used in a different mannerlol, seething pvekek
I just spent 4 hours playing Arc Raiders, I didn't have fun, it was whatever; what's interesting is that the amount of money I had stayed exactly the same amount after the four hour session, despite selling 10-80k after every game.To be honest I just want to team up and be a heal slut but there's no current games like this.
>>566174228>seethingwhere tho?
>>566174363>I just want to team up and be a heal slutMMOs, I would of recommended albion if it didn't go through the whole f2p bullshittery
>>566174363>money I had stayed exactly the same after a four hour sessionThat's actually very balanced and fair, embark spent aot of time making sure you made less money on arc parts and spent more money maintaining your weapons and crafting grenades. Thank you Embark!
guess I should do one last transfer to my alt
>>566176657I got a bobcat and volcano bp that I'm excited to try out, but I feel like it'll be a pain in the ass to manage resources this next expedition.
How the fuck do you use deadlines on Bastions? They keep just turning around and knocking me over and I die before u can even stand back up
>>566179404how I see Valliate do it, is snaphook on top, deadline, snaphook to a safe location behind cover
>>566179404get as close as possible before it auto aggros you, throw lure grenade can get the BP from a quest early on, then plant.
>>566179404>was just about to recommend the photocloak but remembered its practically useless against it now unless its hugging cover alreadyI guess lure grenades if you're loud or confident to walk towards its back and smoke out.
>>566180885they should just delete the photocloak at this point, shit is garbage after it got ner- oops I mean balanced
>>566181712I think doubling the time would fix it
>>566181872I'd take a 50% cut vs a 75% cut, or at least the ability to sprint while using.
>finally find three necklaces thank god it's over
>day old thread>169 posts>page 10brutal man
I'd be so down for a huge map with twice as many players and vehicles.Why would you not do this?
>>566195472Not fun or balanced and doesnt make sense in the lore.
>>566195660>not funWrong.
>>566195472if they ever add vehicles it should be a rusty bicycle that breaks very quickly
>>566186393been drowning in necklaces. still haven't found any pink boats.
>>566196817i had the best luck finding pink boats on top of the cranes in riven tides
>>566196817yeah pink boats are more rare than the golden ships lol
>>566183069nta but I couldn't have it last long enough to walk by a rocketeer and some smaller arc on Dam from the green shack to the red lake elevator by the testing annex when I called it and just aggro'ing everything as I reached it. It legit would've been easier to leave it in the stash and have an extra slot to loot with and let the arc KO me to exfil downed.I'd think if its going to stay this short fused then reduce the rarity to blue, the mats decreased at last some and be able to craft at level 2 bench.
>>566195472>and vehicles.lame, give me a monorail transport system to get between different parts of the map
I thought of a way to make the flank augment less dogshit. What if it had 3-4 augmented slots for ammo?
>>566198898what if it had a medium shield like virtually any other tier 3
>>566201476No, chud.
>>566194274in the words of darkviper:THE$SE STUPID REDDIT FAGGOTS MADE TH WINDOW 14 DAYSFOURTEEN DAYSFOURTEEEEENFOURTEEN DAYSbut no really, I've been bored since day 1 of the window when I finished my damage, holy fuck this last 2 weeks is grueling and I love this game, theres just literally nothing to progress on my account
>>566201476I don't think everything needs to have a blue shield to be good. Sure it helps make something good, but why not power creep in another direction? 5 ammo slots that negate ammo weight.
They will add a bow surely one of these days when they start running out of ideas, all live service games do.
>>566204104wouldn't really make sense against arc, would it? light ammo barely does anythingmaybe if it was pvp update
Fucking bugged game, I'm always in chungarta never shoot anyone and even revive others, then suddenly after a friendly lobby where I pass by others and we just say "hello" I am in the next lobby with KoS flares everywhere and niggers shooting you just from being near, and I get surprised cause wasn't expecting it and can't shoot back cause it will put me in the same lobbies I am now.
>>566204954did you change your loadout, or loot a already dead body?
>>566204954The devs are self-admitted pvpniggers, and pvpniggers only want victims not other pvpers. It's the same in every PvPvE game. Dune Awakening finally added PvE only instances and it took like 11 months.
since there's fuck all to do until the expedition departs I guess I'll do some evil shit in queen lobbies
>>566204104I would LOVE that. I use the bow in basically every game it's available.
beachcombing or night raid?
>>566207714nightraid seems better, unless you need to search the beach for those boats
>>566207714beachcombing is only """good""" if you're looking for boats
Any anons need red coral jewelry or the legendary ship? I have like 5 red coral I don't need
>>566208225>>566208252night raid got me the same number of boats as beachcombing, but beachcombing got me two Bettina blueprints on top (that i don't need)
>>566211641nyet
>>566045487why is my voice chat my working all day
I sold the two legendary ships, the reward for the trophy isn't great.
>>566204954>Help! I can't walk around and pick up my trash unabated for one or two rounds!!Guess you'll have to learn how to play the game now, huh?
>>566205713Nothing anon LITERALLY NOTHING, I was playing like always, just did 2 plays talked with people casually we extracted together, no damage to anyone and not looting bodies, then I go to swamp and a guy had killed 2 guys I asked him gently "oh, hey bro were you killing rats?" then he starts shooting me, I flee another guy starts shooting me and then I see there's raiders flares everywhere in the fking map and it was just 25 minutes in (I entered map at 29 min), same happened in next play, so now I'm forced to carry vulcano and triggernades to defend myself fuck this matchmaking.
>>566213984I'm not a pvpnigger like you, and I'm playing solo, trios and duos are nice for pvp, but for solo is pure ass with only campers and shitters, in fact I could easily kill the guy who shot me (both guys missed almost half their mags) but I'm not into aggressive lobbies.
>>566213986so weird, there wasnt even a patch or anything
>place noisemakers near extract button in pve lobbies as an experiment >some people laugh>some people get irrationally madWish I could make these and not be locked to 6 a day from gay retard man
>>566214513I think you can craft them
>>566203470>but why not power creep in another direction?because you'll be dead. light shield doodoo
>>566214565Oh shit you need to make them in-match... I see...
>>566214237>in fact I could easily kill the guy who shot meAh yes, the "I could do that but I don't wanna" cope. A classic shitter retort.>but I'm not into aggressive lobbies.You literally just said you randomly get put into them when friendly so another moot point. Especially since one or two kills doesn't put you into high PvP lobbies even with old ABMM.You actually have to work to be this retarded.
>>566204954I literally just had a steak of all friendly games. load into Stella and on the way out hear pvp guns and a flare. Go to check it out and someone's shooting at me. Run down to train and someone down there is also killing people trying to exit. For some reason my voice chat has been turned off automatically so I couldn't even talk. Had to down 3 or 4 ppl just to leave with my fruits.
>>566214513They're pretty good when you do the matriarch. People are often greedy and lucky when they start looting the matriarch, bastion or whatever else around and they don't get attacked.Place one near her loot and have fun
>>566214802NTA but why the fuck do you care so much about this?
>>566214802>You literally just said you randomly get put into them when friendly so another moot point. Especially since one or two kills doesn't put you into high PvP lobbies even with old ABMM.But If I don't shoot back I got highers chances to go back to friendly lobbies or at least it'll be fast to go back, in fact 2 plays later I was already there.>Ah yes, the "I could do that but I don't wanna" cope. A classic shitter retort.Not coping the first guy missed 3 grenades and the second one missed his whole burletta mag on me I was literally standing still in front of him without cover asking him cause I've been in friendly lobbies in the previous FIVE matches before and suddenly being thrown into a KoS lobby and not even a mixed one had me very confused and surprised, if I had shot back I would clearly kill someone whos RELOADING in front of me, and this game doesn't even have skill based matchmaking/elo most pvp players in arc suck at shooting it's like going against unranked players in other games or are going to say this is a lie?
>>566213986defending yourself counts as pvp
>>566215501>But If I don't shoot back I got higher(s) chances to go back to friendly lobbiesRight. You want back into baby mode for babies because a major aspect of an extraction shooter pisses you off so much, you expected an echo chamber awaiting your seething ire for people shooting at you in a video game. But you keep crying about PvP, that'll show everyone you call a nigger when on the floor. That'll show 'em.
>>566214565>>566214513I just wish they didn't explode after a few seconds of ringing.
>>566215501>skill based matchmaking/eloIt kind of does. if you win a lot if fights you'll be placed against ppl who also win a lot of fights. friendly lobbies are essentially ppl who lose a lot of fights
>>566216714Friendly lobbies are people who don't even fight. You aren't going to get into friendly lobbies if you're actively fighting and losing.
>>566216553Not him but I like being able to run around with my legendary weapons to easily do trials and projects without having to watch my back the entire time.
>>566217206I like not getting shot in the back too but without the human threat factor, having to watch your surroundings, take appropriate angles and set up properly loses all meaning. At that point, you're just skipping through the meadow shooting AI, which there are plenty PvE games that exist already for that.I suffer from gear fear too, but that's part of the fun. Sometimes losing my shit is a blessing because my inventory is always full again after a few matches.
>>566216553Dude I just said, I play solo, in trios pvp is fantastic and duos are okay/cool, but in solo it's pvpnigger territory guys that camp a spot for it's whole match and never engage in cover peek or trade damage, only the coward way.>>566215918I only mentioned defending after I left that extract prior to that match I never shot someone even when I had been shot in the kos lobby.
bretty nice for solo
>>566218194>I play soloShocking! I can't imagine no one wanting to be around such a beaming personality like yours.>territory guys that camp a spot for it's whole match and never engage in cover peek or trade damageAll this mouth breathing to say "I hate campers"
>>566218542>Damage Arc>Damage Arc with melee>2 widely different numbersfuckingwhat?
>>566218706one does not count for the other )))))))) very sweden
>>566218706It's points not damage. Doing melee damage is harder so the point multiplier is higher. Probably.
>>566217682>I like not getting shot in the back tooCool. You like what you like and I'll like what I like. I don't give a fuck about all that nonsense you typed tho
>>566219206>I don't give a fuck!>responds
Where's the roadmap aaaaaaaa
>>566219464small christmas break plz understand
>>566219464I'm guessing we'll get one after the expedition, otherwise, no idea, I guess just no updates this month, then the roadmap, saying we'll get updates next month. (yea the last day of next month)
>>566205846Yeah, and Dune Awakening is fucking dead. Why are you buying a PvPvE game if you don't want to shoot other people to claim your stuff?
>>566198898I was thinking about Flanking the other day and the role a 'flanking' aug should have, if it's to keep in-tandem with the pistol bonus. What if Flanking's niche was that running with a handgun out didn't slow you down? The speed alone and not having to draw your weapon (which is already fast with pistols) would make it competitive against medium shield slop. That, and the fact the only two good fucking pistols are the Anvil and Burletta ever since the Venator got gutted lol
>>566220641I dismantle my gear down to as shitty of loot as possible if I know I'm in a losing fight.
>>566220852based
>>566220852Kneel to the king, baby.
>>566220852If you have the time to dismantle your gear, then you probably had time to relocate, heal, use a grenade, or fight. Don't get me wrong, I've done it too, but in most circumstances in which you'll be dying, there's not a lot of free time.
>>566220840I fuck with that idea
>>566220840"Im over here! Or am I......here?"
>>566221384Thanks for your blanket response that ignores all variables and contextual situations, fucking retard.
>>566221779You're welcome, Anon. Next time I see you topside I'll be sure to extend my hospitality to you at a very high cyclic rate.
>>566220641>Yeah, and Dune Awakening is fucking deadIt's still going and has gone up very very slightly in player count. The all time low was back in december I think. If they didn't take so long to pivot it wouldn't be so "dead">Why are you buying a PvPvE game if you don't want to shoot other people to claim your stuff?It depends on the situation. If I'm doing trials or will be doing them soon, I don't bother shooting back because it's annoying dealing with rats while doing trials. I've done my share of fighting back, pic rel
>>566223708Understandable. I tend to be very cordial in solos and always try to broker peace in duos/trios, but you violently defend yourself a few too many times and the game thinks you're a killer. Which I am, frankly. My trio team have improved massively since we started playing, so we usually will run our trials in heavy PvP lobbies for the extra thrill. Nothing better than winning a 5-team clusterfuck on Stella, picking the corpses like vultures, and continuing to get 50k+ points in a trial
Wake up
Did they release a new gacha and it has a stupid general full of ritualposters or why are we almost getting pushed off the catalogue?>Page 10
>>566233251>>566234068for a game that still has like 50000 people playing you'd expect there to be a few more autists in here, huh
>>566234068There's nothing to do, no loot to collect. Those fags at Embark gave us 13 days to get to 100k damage, and almost all of us got it done on the first or second day. Just waiting now so I have a reason to start playing again.
>>566237643>>566237423I checked and i was right. Neverending ending whatever. Gacha fags love spamming the same pics in ever thread.
>>566238321good instincts
>>566238321I wish they'd make a /vgm/ for all the mobile garbage
>>566045487Embark can tongue my anus.
>>566242714If only...
>still have to wait like 4 more days for resetbruh
>decide to check steam forums>half of them are filled with one liner seething from pvecucks wanting a kumbaya-tier paradise Can any carebear explain to me why do they think it's a good idea?>inb4 dying makes me feel bad
>get a chimpout going for bumps!nah
bumps are good
>>566246269It's because they can't fathom the nature of man. Some people just want other people to feel miserable so they PVP the carebears and carebears seethe. I for one got more knockouts than revives but I can understand both sides of the coin. In the end, cunts forget that's only a game... so they need to SNEED>Mission Accomplished!
>>566247014>It's because they can't fathom the nature of man.Good observation, but wouldn't that be slightly opposite, as they are too engrossed with the nature of being thus refusing to see the game as a separate experience from real life?I've been noticing quite an uptick of "muh realism" points more than ever before.
>>566247304That's because they can't understand video games are for fun. Realism is not fun, it's chores, delays, things to look fancy and also getting fucked in the ass randomly because you rolled low that day.
>>566247662Doesn't sound great for the gaming scene as a whole, when these types of people are the majority of consumers.
>>566205846>pvpniggers only want victimsblame embark for making the pvp as shitty as it is and making it piss easy to camp exfils and hatches
pseud shit
>>566247662Also noticed that the whole "dopamine overload" in the modern era completely fried peoples' brains, which made them averse to any challenge, long-term progression and sometimes even basic planning or engagement with mechanics in games.Innovation in the industry usually creates friction, things you need to learn and master, but alas the common player's reaction to that is>me want number go up NOW
>>566250146Getting stuck on a game and going to school the next day and getting help via word of mouth was some of the best things about games.Game manuals had literal "Notes" sections in the back of them ffs.
>>566251404Yeah the ease of accessibility to information also plays a big role, unless you're some sort of pioneer doing speedrunning or some autist doing multiple-hour-long testing sessions for number crunching, you're not really discovering or solving anything, as often this information gets pushed down via videos from random video creators as well.And that's besides the obvious "yellow paint and 2 billion popups" fiasco.
>Just doing trials because there's nothing else to do before the expedition>Go into Stella to kill Fireballs and Ticks>Notice how I always spawn 19 mins into that map lately>Sure enough, the first guy I came across started blasting at me so I melted him with my VenatorGreat, now I'm gonna have KoS lobbies because I defended myself. I'm gonna keep Daredevil 2 so maybe I'll just stop playing until next week.
>>566253525>StellaAlready a pvp biased map and you need to be very deep into Chungurtha to consistently escape it.>late-joining StellaFind the nearest extract as fast as you can if you aren't trying to pvp. But then again joining that late even for pvp probably means everything (and everyone) of real value has left or is leaving and there's 80% freenigs left who are going to camp any corner they can when they hear footsteps.
>>566253897That's the thing, I AM in Chungartha on pretty much every other map. Like I'd be grouping up with 2-3 people on Riven just shooting ARC, then somehow I'd queue for Stella and my raids start at 20 mins or less. When that happens I know it's gonna be a PvP lobby and try to find the nearest exit. Just this time some faggot ran into me before I did, and I didn't wanna give him my stuff. Ironically I ended up dying to a Tick because he shot me first. There was an awkward pause where I thought he would be friendly.
>>566254145This is probably the worst time in general to be joining many maps and modes so Stella is like 10x worse. Most pve players are screwing around elsewhere especially with the new map, sleeping, or at work for the eurokeks. That means there are far fewer pve players in Stella acting as a net to catch you before you are subjected to the large pre-existing Stella playerbase of mostly pvp players.
>p10lol
>trio pvp experience>killed by a lvl 0 account>killed by a lvl 1 account with no game bought>killed by an account with no steam profile>killed by an account with 5 years of inactivity until ARC release>killed by an account with a vac ban>killed by an account with 3 game bansAll that for >0 kits returned in the last 2 months
>>566265756Dont worry, I'm sure when the expedition happens a wave of players will be excited to talk about this dogshit again from level 1
considering buying another account
>>566265756>>566266208The game is getting stale and the lackluster updates/nerfs don't help (I can't be bothered to farm rocketeer drivers for a Wolfpack, sorry Embark). I've been playing since day 1, did every expedition so far (this will be my third) and I've been getting bored with it lately. The new map was awesome for 3 days, then you realize it's a coastal map without access to water, is small af with 2X amount of ARC and that the only interesting POI there is the hotel. Events are nice as they give you shit to do, but after you max out your benches and finish the expedition requirements there's jack shit to do in this game. I grinded trials hard to get the red biker, and now that I have it I'm pretty over trials in general. Nobody seems to give a shit about the Turbine ARC now that the trial for damaging them is gone (they weren't even spawning often). No news on when the Emperor is coming (perhaps the most interesting ARC imo). Who tf knows when a new map will come out, and with how Riven Tides turned out I have little hope that it will be good. ABMM is fucking dumb and punishes you for self defense.I mean the game is still doing well player count wise, but we're now at 80k whereas a couple months ago we were in the 120k area. I believe they can bring it up if they released actual proper new content instead of a tiny map with one good POI and a shitty ARC that never spawns, but Swedish devs are retarded so who knows.
>>566272486>I can't be bothered to farm rocketeer drivers for a Wolfpacklazy beyond belief
>>566272658Yes. Your options are either>waste 5 mins to kill a rocketeer with your hullcrackeor>wait for a map mode that comes on like twice every 24hMight as well just use my Hullcracker instead of trying to craft Wolfpacks. Probably only people who try to minmax trials care enough to farm snitch cores and wolfpacks nowadays.
>>566273372>5 minsdo you... miss 20 shots from your hullcracker in a row?>wait for a map modeyou don't have to wait for the event, rocketeer husks spawn without it as well.WP is a "I want this shit gone now" button, it's extremely braindead to use and it's baffling that people expected it to be a mainline damage dealer.
this expedition will be arcs great filterpeople have now done everything and will soon realize how annoying it is not having tools to deal with annoyances the game throws at them nowits over (dead but still have ~30k base of dads/autists)
>>566274029excessive playerbase retention is detrimental to the game unless you want to shit out random slop every month exclusively for money because dopamine is what feeds retardsstrong core playerbase > muh numbas, the game will experience momentary uprisings anyways when stuff/content drops
>>566273714>do you... miss 20 shots from your hullcracker in a row?You're forgetting that the Hullcracker got nerfed as well, and also rocketeers/vaporizers are extremely tanky. You also spend a fair amount of time hiding from their attacks and waiting for them to hover back to a spot you can shoot them from (and hopefully hit). If you can down a rocketeer/vaporizer in less than 5 mins then please film it and post here.>you don't have to wait for the event, rocketeer husks spawn without it as well.You don't get intact cores from husks unless its Husk Graveyard and the husk is electrified. You'll only be getting the broken white quality cores, not the purples ones which are used for crafting.>WP is a "I want this shit gone now" button, it's extremely braindead to use and it's baffling that people expected it to be a mainline damage dealer.I don't disagree, but making it extremely tedious to craft them will just result in them not being used much anymore. I'd rather use a hullcracker than waste time farming rocketeers, especially when you only get 1 core on average for your trouble.
>>566274515>Hullcracker got nerfed as wellare you just whining about nerfs at this point? the thing was basically an automatic trigger grenade dispenser with the massive explosive radius which made it just as braindead to use as WPs are, just multiple times cheaper. killing heavy arc in 10 shots center fucking mass without even aiming for any weakspots was atrocious design.even despite the explosive radius being ~1.5m now it's still the best PvE weapon in the game by a mile, unless you want range in which case you go for jupiter>muh vidsnigger, nobody is editing a clip for you. it takes ~1-2 minutes to stunlock a rocketeer with an osprey to death, or ~7-8 hits from a hullcracker, depending on where the shots land.>You don't get intact cores from husks unless its Husk Graveyard and the husk is electrified.you do get them, they are just a tad bit more rare, i've gotten a few here and there, but tbf it's not comparable to the event drop rates.>especially when you only get 1 core on average for your trouble.that's 1 core guaranteed, not average. on the contrary from the latest patch i've been getting triple driver drops from almost every rocketeer, and have never gotten a single one so far, it's at least 2. same for leapers, drop rates from auxilary parts seem to have been increased for these ARC.>it extremely tedious to craft them will just result in them not being used much anymorepowerful tools aren't supposed to be used on a whim, the game economy had issues of ARC parts being useless to the gear progression and we had overpowered PvE tools, so the issue was addressed in a pair of changes.
