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Welcome to Sonic the Hedgehog General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!

/sthg/ #9300 - Nicole is watching you Edition

==NEWS==
>Sonic the Hedgehog's 35th anniversary
https://www.sega.com/sonic-the-hedgehog?tab=35th-anniversary
>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 to release on March 19, 2027
https://x.com/SonicMovie

==Comic Release Dates==
DC x Sonic the Hedgehog: Metal Legion #1 - 06 May 2026
DC x Sonic the Hedgehog: Metal Legion #2 - 03 June 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #87 - 17 June 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog: 35th Anniversary Special - 08 July 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog x Godzilla #1 - 15 July 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #88 - 22 July 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #89 - 05 August 2026

==GENERAL INTEREST LINKS==
https://rentry.org/sthglinks
>Milestone pastebin:
https://pastebin.com/LJCfZhY4
>Sonic Game/Mod Recommendation Spreadsheet:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-gamemod-recommendation-spreadsheet
>Perfect System Collection:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#perfect-system-collection
>Sonic comic scans:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#comics
>Sonic shows:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#shows
>SAGE
https://sagexpo.org/
>SHC
https://shc.zone/
>#10000 Project
https://pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4r
>/sthg/ booru:
https://sthg.booru.org/
>/sthg/ CyTube:
https://cytube/r/sthg
>/sthg/ Pixel World:
https://ourworldofpixels.com/sthg

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Tails!
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>>566103360
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shadamy!
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Shadria thread
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Douge
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How do we fix Starfox?
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>>566103339
I know he posts frequently on this site but I haven’t seen much of him. What’s the dumbest thing he’s done?
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>>566103612
Kill yourself. Just fucking Kill yourself already.
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I dropped idw after metal virus but I love tokusatsu. Is the phantom rider arc any good? Does sonic kick the shit out of anyone?
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>>566103824
busta
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>>566103669
Dipper and Wendy
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>>566104019
>implying either of them would reject a romantic advance from the other
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>>566103989
No. Very forgettable. I don’t even remember how the Restoration HQ got destroyed.
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i am not a feet person like at all, but nicole's feet are really cute to me, i don't know why
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Should Sega ban fangames?
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>>566103989
idw is not good, never has been and never will be. just read something else tbdesu
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>>566103717
Make Krystal fat
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>>566104331
SEGA is hanging on by a thread
It would be unwise
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>>566103824
BRAP!
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>>566103717
Fire everyone involved that made those horrible models in the new one and start all over (again.)
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Fuck you rouge.
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>>566104672
KEK
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>>566104451
Is there at least a couple panels of Sonic doing something rideresque or is he just racing around while a bunch of dykes argue?
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>>566104672
sonic characters for this feel?
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>>566104672
This is a level of emasculation beyond simple cuckoldry. Id just kms at his point.
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Am I the only one who has Shortfuse as their favorite Sonic character?
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I want to suck Nazi Shadow's cute pink stiffy and save the aryan race.
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>>566104941
>Korone's into himbos
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>>566104941
Slut!
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>>566103685
Cute N Canon!
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>>566104941
>I'm knuckles
That's so co--
>>566105076
KILL YOURSELF
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>>566104941
She has knuckles confused for shadow, the actual rugged lone wolf.
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>>566105438
She's pushing 50 now. So she preferes the classic games.
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>>566105438
>shadoe
>rugged
Shadow would hate getting dirty and looking imperfect
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Hey guys I have a really funny idea hehehehe. Imagine if hahha- imagine if like, like after they made SA2 SEGA decided hehehehhehehehoohoohoo- what if they decided to just hahaha- oh sorry I keep laughing but imagine if they like kept on remaking Sonic 3 over and over hahahahhaha and OVER AAHAHAHAH! LIKE IMAGINE THEY DID THAT 5 TIMES OVER TWENTY (20) YEARS! AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAHAHHAHA!
And the best part is that AHAHAHAHhahah- the best part is that they don't EVEN change the gameplay AHAHAHAHAHAH- like L I T E R A L L Y all they do is """"""upgrade"""""" the graphics. PFFFTT AHAHAHAHHAHAHAHHAH

Wouldnt that just be so funny hahahhahaha.
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did they announce a new star fox game why am i seeing star fox everywhere
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>>566106001
>New
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Wow
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xfMIheMqkr4
Good Night

>>566106001
They shadow-dropped a direct earlier today.
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.
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>>566106345
Ahahaha HAHAHAAHAHAHAHAHAH AHAAAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH


HAHAHAHAHAH

WAIT
WAIT

WAIT
WAIT A FUCKING MINUTE
FUJCK
FUCK NO NO NO
NOOOOOO
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>>566106345
why don't we all just kill ourselves at this point
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>>566106476
>>566106517
Lol wait you guys didn't know speed sim was "canon"? He submits his skin ideas directly to Iizuka (typically a sketch) and they review it, then suggest changes as needed. Some of the changes are kind of stupid and others are improvements. It's a very direct communication though.
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>>566106001
They announce Star Fox 64
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>>566106476
Sonic Prime being canon sucks in every conceivable way but it's a "fact"
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Would you stick your finger in?
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>>566104456
Now what?
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When was the last time that this thread discussed video games instead of some random comics that nobody gives a fuck about?
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>>566107090
Why would you do this? Dear god.
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>>566106808
I actually like the designs but it's wasted on 64 3.
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>>566107121
We hate sonic
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>>566107090
Would
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>>566107121
why would I discuss video games when I could be playing them instead?
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Hey what character is on this jacket that this random guy is wearing
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>>566107262
Blueboardanon?
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star tails
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Sonic Team features shadria marriage
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Why is ABT like this?
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>>566107840
>slicing my face open on zombotdow's chest shards
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>>566106204
where's this from?
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fentanyl Katt
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Go fap your tuna lips somewhere else foid.
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Thoughts on 06 Shad?
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>>566107215
peppy looks cool
fox is every male furry ever
falco and slippy look like they're each from a different game
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>>566108073
No
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>>566106972
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>>566107090
Hey, I said fat. That’s barely chubby

>>566107159
Weak

>>566107418
Yep
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>>566106748
It makes me wonder if the IDW comics are even directly overseen by Iizuka. They're extremely out of character
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>>566108840
Trying to not go overboard here.
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My urge to keep things IC and my urge to draw hedgehogs in playboy bunny suit outfits are conflicting
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>>566109441
I stabbed my OOC instincts to death
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>>566109551
based, maybe
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>>566109939
No more KnuxAmy for me
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>>566105062
Hail Black Doom
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>>566106889
this gay nigga would suck it and like it
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>play crossworlds since it was on sale
>virtually no content outside of part collecting
>matchmaking is extremely fucked skill wise due to low player count
hm, guess it's refund time
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>>566103717
Make Fox gay towards Wolf, Wolf gay towards Falco and Falco gay towards Fox
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IDW fans constant "Why does Sonic have to be Sonic all the time"
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>>566110696
First kart racer?
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>>566111078
These "people" just want Sonic to have MCU writing.
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>>566111078
IDW fans are just fine with Sonic being a little vulnerable sometimes. Archie fans are the ones who want him to stop being Sonic..
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>>566112163
If he's "vulnerable" then he's not Sonic.
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>>566110696
Standard races, team races/unlocks, and time trials are all you get. They didn't put a story in. Frankly, though, after TSR, that feels a bit like a mercy.
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Anyone who thinks an American Sonic comic is representative of any character is a lost cause
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Having the charisma to charm girls is a positive trait and I'm tired of LGBTQIA activists in the fandom pretending it's not
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>>566111078
>Check post history
> Person has made literally hundreds of posts saying idw is in character
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>>566112635
People say this to defend Archienic except the romantic conflict in Archie and Satam is that he would have to grow to properly earn the affections meaning that Sonic on his own isn't worthy enough. He has to "Grow up" "Slow down" and "Become more serious".
Blegh. It turns Sonic into this chasing simp.

Before that one defensive dumbass comes here, I watched every episode of SatAM. Sonic is the chaser. The Amy in this situation. Sally turns HIM down for being too pushy. That isn't badass charisma and that isn't cool, that's pathetic.
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torturing Shadow
torturing Sonic
torturing Amy
torturing Knuckles
torturing Tails
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>>566112826
Sonally is the Sonic 06 of ships. People like the idea of it rather than what actually happened in Archie and Satam.
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>>566112980
>implying Sonic 06 is bad
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>>566112861
Infinite…
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Sonic 06 is only not bad only in the context of all Sonic games ever made, such as Tails' Music Maker and Sonic Schoolhouse.
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>>566112980
I think that's a little harsh. Sonally fans are the first to point out that the pairing doesn't work if you go by the games. They don't even want game Sonic in the first place. What they wanted was the story in the Archie comics to run without getting blown up by super genesis bullshit.
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>>566113312
Sonallyfaggots are retards who want Sonic's character replaced with the shitty American turd
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>>566113070
>Implying 06 was good
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I wuv Sonic
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>>566113412
>implying 06 was fine
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>>566112980
>People like the idea of it rather than what actually happened
But enough about knuxouge
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Creampie the rabbit
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>>566113462
fag~
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The problem with Sonamy is that Sonic doesn't take Amy seriously.
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>>566113546
What’s wrong with Vanilla?
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>>566111078
>Exaggerated swagger of a blue teen
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Sonally, Sonamy, Sonaze, Sonadow. I think all Sonic ships are retarded and if you actually think he's ever going to reciprocate romantically to any character you're just stupid. The average child is smarter than you if you think that Sonic is going to change this aspect during your lifetime.
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>>566113646
Vanilla is the safe horny option in the age where prudes consume furry porn.
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Sally was literally fucking skunks
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Sheep wife
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>Silv
>Fluffy
>Pretty boy
What's your favorite nickname?
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>>566114395
*boobs
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And to think people believed Sonic hated Amy back then.
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>>566113704
You’re the only person in this general that thinks like that.
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>>566114443
Those too
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>>566114395
Cigs...
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Fuck you, I'm happy this franchise has been infiltrated by people who hate it. Get fucked bitch loooool
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>>566114610
>jesustruth.png
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>>566114628
Shit oc. Lanolin prefers humen men.
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Who is the Krystal of Sonic.
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I might throw up
somebody hold my puke
get Silver, he can do it
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Don't ingest over 200mg caffeine within the same 12 hours, you'll shit out both ends
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You can't control what people ship and it's immature to get mad about it
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>>566115124
You want Silver to put your puke back in with his powers?
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>>566115216
I one time had a monster and a 5-hour energy within the same hour and thought I was going to legit have a heart attack.
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>>566115097
All of them.
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>>566114407
Schizover
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>>566115235
Yes I can.
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>>566115465
I think I will draw Schizover the next whiteboard. I like this unhinged version of him
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>>566115319
no I wanna do it all over his bare hands
He won't get the smell out of his fur for days
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Sometimes this general has sexual tension
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>>566115787
No shit. These anons just need to fuck each other already since no one else will.
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>>566115787
>Sometimes
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>>566115097
When Sega listened to antifriendsfags and it turned out the game was still shit. But those people died a long time ago
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>>566114628
OCshit is off-topic.
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>>566115969
Once you see it you can't unsee it
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Really though, what would you do if they do reboot sonics design with a more realistic model ala movienic
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>>566116125
It would suck, but at least our designs aren't so ugly
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>>566116125
Miyamoto would do this, Iizuka wouldn't. He'd pander to classicfags but never american canons.
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>>566115073
glasses girl is the cutest design to come out of idw
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>>566106345
Does anything actually happen in Speed Simulator? Is there any actual story to be had? Okay it's "canon" in that they only use Sonic Team approved lore/dialogue (ESP Silver is best Silver) but what events actually take place.

What is the Sonic Speed Simulator? Is that something akin to the one in Sonic Colors?
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>>566116382
>Iizuka wouldn't
Iizuka does whatever the higher ups tell him to do. So if they wanted the games to follow the movies he would just nods and agree.
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>>566116091
What did you see, anon?
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>>566116912
Iizuka is the one who issues mandates TO the movies
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>>566116624
We need more background OCs promoted to main characters
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>>566117063
No more background OCs. Only humans.
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>>566117041
Yes, and?
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I hope everyone is having a wonderful week.
https://youtu.be/6BDW1V_P5sA
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Starfox has gotta be one of the few franchises more cursed than Sonic. What kind of dark magic makes an executive say "I want the Sonic 2006 hyper realistic artstyle."?
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>>566117502
Sonic is probably the only animal mascot franchise that wasn't completely raped, despite the fact that it seems like the opposite. It's still here, Sonic still looks like Sonic. The most off model version of the character was erased, the most OOC version of the character was permavaulted. Sonic fans have it easy compared to Starfox, Sly, Ty, Jak and Daxter and Crash.
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Rate my sonic redesign
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>>566117502
I don't necessarily hate this direction, it's just that nobody would give a fucking shit about this direction if it wasn't used on Star Fox characters.
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Just started playing Sonic Rumble, it's pretty fun! does it eventually get bad or something? I barely see people talking about it
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>>566117897
I FORGOT HIS FUCKING EARS
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>>566117631
>Crash
I still think about how he was thoroughly sacrificed on the altar of wokeness. And how it retroactively tainted his whole revival.
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>>566117962
My only gripe is that it feels too slow for a sonic game. If they upped the movement speed like 50% it would be perfect. Otherwise I can feel like a slog if you don't have more stages unlocked
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>>566118037
This is just a taste of what Sonic would be like if IDW writers had unmitigated control and no mandates
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>>566117962
It's fun and more fun when you play with other people. But it's a party game, so there isnt much to talk about it.

>does it eventually get bad or something?
No, unless you want to take it serious. You can't go to the Master emerald rank unless you spend lots of money on it.
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>>566118037
Who knew the enby CatBat wasn't going to sell a lot of copies?
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>>566118394
Eww they even tried to sneak mutilation scars on her
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>>566118394
>>566118550
Imagine trying to sell microtransactions with skins like this.
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>>566118802
Bananas?
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>>566118394
>>566118550
>>566118802
Is it supposed to be an affeminate male or a breastless female? Tell us you cowards! God, I hate gender theory.
I hope Microsoft just starts the Sonic's ass series from the beginning
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Why did you go and get the fairly odd parents faggots mad at Sonic how do you even do that
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I want to talk about fucking Mobians
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>>566119243
A metalfag's fault
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>>566119341
Stupid fucking jobber
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>>566119243
??? Go back to your /co/wasteland faggot
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>>566119243
I told them romance in fop is retarded and the same as shipping winnie the pooh characters. and at least sonic romance had a bit of substance to it. then i got called a trixiefag. now it appears that tootiefag has been losing his shit since then
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>>566119230
The idea is that a male anime got fused with a female animal. Now realistically, you'd get a creature with an XXY chromosome set which would be genetically male but the people who thought this up are retarded.

He's just one of the artist's fetish characters. There's no point thinking about it. The devs were jacking off to him.
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I wonder what happens at the end of this decade when this forced meme of "industry renaissance" ends. Indie garbage included, everyone masking second hand slop and nostalgia from old titles as a renaissance of my ass.
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>>566117063
no they just need more fanart
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>>566119423
>i got called a trixiefag
I started laughing uncontrollably irl. Shipperfags are something else man.
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So ESP Silver's spawn pose in Speed Simulator is based on 2005 concept art. I wonder what that means for him?
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>>566119423
>>>/co/153562647
>two straight weeks of meltdown from the WINNING side
This is what will happen if Sonamy ever wins
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SA2 Remake with the Movie designs
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>>566119542
in this age, the alternative is gay faggot propaganda and tumblr shipping
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>>566119542
Where did he get all that milk?
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>>566119897
Damn they are actually mad about Sonic

Nice going metalfag
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>>566119897
Uhh qrd why are they mad over winning
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A completely different general on the other side of this website is having a full scale meltdown about Sonic because a sthg user invaded their shipping spergout. They are having schizo rants about sonic fans as if sonic has anything to do with fairly odd parents
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Keep Krystal the fuck away from Miyamoto or a 3rd nuke is coming.
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>>566120157
Are we just too powerful?
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>>566120131
Because they are shippers and they won. Imagine if Sonic married Amy right now. Imagine if Yuji Naka uploaded a youtube video explaining that Sonic will marry Amy, only Amy, and then crossed out pictures of Sally and Blaze. The Amyfags wouldn't just be happy that they won, they would spend months flooding threads with retroactive rage at every single time people said they were wrong. Winning wouldn't be enough, they need everyone who ever disagreed with them to feel shame for being wrong. That's how shippers function.
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>>566120195
I don't think Miyamoto is the problem.
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>>566120195
Furfags would make Kyoani look like a fucking joke.
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>>566119897
>that thread
one of you was absolutely going over there to piss them off
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pawbians won
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Sonic's Ass
Was riding high on remakes Crash 4 happened:
>Turned into a canonical cuck
>Was the sidekick in his own game
>Hidden boxes ruined his gameplay formula
>Artstyle and writing was way off

And then the fallout:
>Every recent developer has either been closed down or experienced layoffs
>No new games on the horizon
>No tv show
>No movie
>Not even a comic book
>Crashfans now beg for him to show up in Sonic Crossworlds

How do we save Sonic's Ass? What could actually be done to bring him back...again?
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>>566120778
crash 4 sold good. but being locked to blizzards shitty launcher was a turn off for me. wanna hear something? I only knew that game existed by coincidence. since it wasn't on steam, not even epic and no one was talking about it. being a blizzard exclusive for a while is probably what killed it. not fat tawna, and probably not the shitty mask mechanics. but being locked on a literal who launcher
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>>566120778
Crossover hell till Microsoft decides otherwise.
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>>566120964 (Me)
actually i feel the shitty mask mechanics also had a hand. it felt like a chore to play sometimes
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>>566119423
Nigga are you trying to piss off the pooh shipping fandom too?? ZIP IT
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>>566120157
tell me which one PLEASE
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>>566120267
Lol that actually sounds funny. Wish it happened.
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>>566121179
>>566119897
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>>566120964
>crash 4 sold good.
But did it really? That mantra keeps getting repeated but all evidence points to the contrary. Looks more like a "get woke, go broke" type situation to me.
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Time to activate my dramafag mode.
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I will not be bullied by a fandom that ships bigheaded unaging static characters
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>>566121703
There's always a first time.
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>>566121423
Get woke go broke is the easy way out of analyzing why something failed. Yeah, Concord failed with its ugly designs, but it was also yet another fad chaser shooting game that had shit tons of money poured into it
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>>566121859
I'll humor you: Why did Crash Bandicoot 4 fail when it lacks all of the problems of say, a bad Classic Sonic game.

Just to put things in perspective: Sonic Superstars did something akin to 2m units.
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I'm sure to other fandoms we look retarded for arguing about who Sonic would marry
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Woke Cola?!?
You took me for a gay??
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>>566121941
Because it had no nostalgia backing it, it was one game instead of three, had a regular price tag instead of a reduced price at launch like the trilogy, and we can add >>566120964 for the PC port
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>>566122101
Not really
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>>566122101
The weirdest thing about us is our obsession with Rails.
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>>566122498
TimmyxVicky with extra steps
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>>566122110
I'm fucking the fox
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>>566122576
Falco/Wolf...
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>>566122576
>Fucking The Fox
Fucking died years ago.
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>>566122320
>Because it had no nostalgia backing it
Except it did. Not only does the game have numerous callbacks but it was called Crash Bandicoot FOUR. It played the exact same card as Sonic the Hedgehog FOUR. Yeah, nostalgia was here in full effect.
>One game instead of three
Not a valid argument. One new game is worth three remakes of old games. And I'm gonna point to Sonic Superstars again because that is a new game.
>Had a regular price tag
This is retroactive argument. It only works in hindsight AFTER the Crash IP has been devalued by Crash Bandicoot 4. Before that, people correctly assumed Crash would reach the heights of Mario ($70 plus tip for new Mario games) and Sonic ($60 plus tip for Sonic Frontiers). Unfortunately, that did NOT happen. They actually reduced the price tag of Crash 4 to $40 for the Switch and PC releases. Gotta move this turd somehow.

You got anymore excuses?
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I dont care about Crash
Nobody cared about Crash since ps2
Talk about Sonic
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>>566123180
Any news on the next Sonic game?
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>>566123446
Sonic Blitz is releasing this year
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>>566122906
Well it's back in fashion, by the way I mean the red one, not the orange one.
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>>566113657
Counterpoint:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b9GSvtiQ_28
Just because it's reciprocated, doesn't mean it'll be endgame (there will never be an endgame for anything)
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>>566123639
I would be hyped if the cars to collect were actually cool instead of just more bare bone 3d models
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>>566123639
The only reason anyone gives a fuck about blitz is because they're cope hoping for archies inclusion
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>>566123930
>there will never be an endgame for anything
Yes, exactly.
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>>566124090
But the point if Sonaze is the vibes, not the outcome. Neither one will come out and say how they really feel. That's what makes it special.
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>>566123930
Sonaze is dead due to Silver
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>>566124345
Evan...
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They drew her so cute
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>>566124004
>someone somewhere really hopes they're gonna change models after they made renders of the entire cast in this style
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>>566124430
She looks like she's about to take off her underwear
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>>566123930
>reciprocated
>Sonaze
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Archie fiona is ooc, sthg fiona is ic.
Fiona is clearly an interdimensional trickster.
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>>566124472
...did I say that? I was talking about drawings
>they made renders of the entire cast
And they all look bad
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>>566124549
That's the crux of it. Sonic felt the whole magnetic attraction thing first then Blaze followed suit.
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>>566124345
Blaze is dead due to Silver
Silver is dead due to Blaze
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>>566124715
Don't waste your time. Her entire character was oneshot by the Iblis sacrifice. It's the alpha and omega of her character now, nothing else exists outside of it. She's a Maria/ Cosmo tier character now.
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>>566124907
You make me laugh. Good joke. Let's say Sonic's whole arc is defined by his death by Melphilis too.
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>>566103669
cute!! I love both of them!!!
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>>566124658
sthg fiona?
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>>566124679
No im not talking about you niggaa
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>>566120219
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Maria is Shadow's dead girlfriend.
Cosmo is Tails' dead girlfriend.
Blaze is Silver's dead girlfriend.

Literally nothing you say or do with these characters could possibly matter because they are monopolized by that role. Anything you do for them will be overshadowed recontextualized by that role.
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Sally is Sonic's dead then dead again then roboticized then vaulted girlfriend
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>>566125138
Kek
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>>566124985
>pretending not to understand
okay bro

Blaze is totally still a real character that people want to see more of. She definitely has fans. Sega definitely has more planned for her than star-crossed lovers shit that hinges on her Iblis sacrifice.

Ffs Silver has an entire canon-compliant super form based on her death. Blaze was ruined and everyone cheered for it.
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>>566125257
Yeah but nobody gives a fuck about maria and Cumsmo isn't canon. The only issue is blaze permanently having her legacy ruined by the shittiest sonic game
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>>566123646
Don't stick it in crazy.
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*headpats your OC*
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>>566121423
Crash 4 sold 5 million copies, 1 million more than Frontiers, the current best selling Sonic game. Activision's expectations are too high.
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i've been out of the loop of the comics for abit and just cauhgt up to IDW and this justice league crossover, what's up with rough, tumble and clutch? clutch left them to die on the resistance air ship so why are they working with him again? Also how did he escape eggman?
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>>566125257
Might hire prostitutes to cope at this point.
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>>566125609
They're retards, and he didn't, Eggman let him go but has some kind of obedience device on him, it's under his hat
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Imagine raping Shadow
Imagine Shadow's glassy confused angry eyes as you touch him and he is too drugged to think clearly
Imagine Shadow's humiliated flinches and hitches every time you touch a new sensitive part of him
Imagine Shadow's legs pressed back by his head so he's folded in half as you spear him with your cock
Imagine Shadow's uncontrollable stangled gasps as your huge human dick impales his little body
Imagine Shadow's face streaked with drool and tears from your rod down his spasming throat
Imagine tweaking Shadow's nipples as you breed him making arch deliciously into you like a whore
Imagine making Shadow cum hands-free just from the relentless assault on his swollen prostate
Imagine Shadow's shaking confusion and shame because he's never even touched himself before
Imagine recording all of this and sending it to Sonic and the other characters who know Shadow
Imagine dumping Shadow's drugged passed out body out in some cold alleyway somewhere
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Blaze has the exact same fate as Gwen Stacey. It would take literal decades for an entire generation of fans to cycle out, and even then it wouldn't be enough.
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>>566124430
I have been summoned
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>>566125703
Also I just remembered tugg and bumble don't work for clutch anymore, he works for them, he also gave them his little mountain cabin vacation thingie whatever that was. His inn.
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>>566124516
that's cute
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>>566125431
I NEED to fuck Mobians, you don't understand.
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>>566125769
From the graveyard? From the deck? by sacrificing three anons?
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>>566125103
This gif gets me so bricked up which sucks because there is NO porn of this pairing
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>>566125609
More like Clutch is working for them, and Eggman. As for why idk, it's probably an attempt to make a modern version of Team Hooligan. It's not like the comic really knows what to do with its cast.
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>>566125881
From the field. The cute and funny bunny activated my trap card.
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>>566125908
>Bricked up from two characters hugging Jesus anon
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Tailsmy or Knuxamy?
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>>566126136
ME fucking that pink hedgehog. She's built for humies
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>>566125908
silvaze has the silver market in a stranglehold. seeing silver with anyone else (not counting whisper) in a straight pairing is like finding water on the moon
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me having sex with my oc
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>>566126048
Stop laughing at me
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>>566125707
Imagine Shadow convulsing in a psychogenic non-epileptic seizure from the extreme trauma anon just gave him
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>>566126208
Me having sex with your OC
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>>566126256
as long as you can wait your turn
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>>566126208
evan / abt / nakamura / hoshino / iizuka...
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sonaze is not reciprotated, its the 00s formula of sonic helping a troubled person and then dipping out when the person is gone. amy is the actual love interest but that's not the endgame either.

sonaze not being reciprotated is why silver even exists, even if blazefags hate it.
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>>566125703
>>566125960
So eggman effectively did to Clutch what he did to Mimic? Mimic's whole reason for killing his former team was all because Eggman threatened him to do it or he'd kill him and when Whisper survived it he put a tracker on him so he'd kill him if he doesn't kill Whisper, then after the Bad Guys special with Mimic being untracable by Eggman now he still decides to fuck with Whisper just to be an asshole to the point it resulted in his death, it's kinda funny, Eggman was going to do that to Starline too before the rubble came down on him and killed him but if the cloaked guy really is Starline after surviving he'll probably be forced back into Eggman's service just to keep him around.

I don't understand how Clutch is now their flunkie, Rough and Tumble are retarded but semi decent fighters, what could they possibly strong arm from Clutch especially now that Clutch is effectively a spy for Eggman? In fact, with how often Rough and Tumble end up crossing paths with Sonic and his companions this is a net gain for Clutch to keep hanging with them, this page in the crossover makes it look like Clutch is in charge tho.

Then there's Infinite also being back from the dead and powerless, he apparently was saved by an unamed benefactor and after being defeated he runs away with a smoke bomb threatening to return in chaotix case files

so how is it that we have all these bad guys not counting surge, kit, the deadly six and that megumi lady yet they all feel like they need eggman involvement to be real credible threats? You may even add the Babaylon Rogues to that list as they are antagonistic as well.
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Sonic 1 remake
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sthg is not so bad. On here there is a very strict "If the Japanese didn't do it then it's OOC" thing that I'm not sure the general fully believes but is a solid enough basis for consistent characterization.
On twitter there are daily arguments about if Sonic Prime or IDW are OOC. These things seem obvious by sthg standards.
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>>566126396
>sonaze not being reciprotated is why silver even exists
Silver exists because Sonic Team are creatively bankrupt and Silvaze exists because Maekawa specifically is creatively bankrupt.
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>>566126480
>on twitter
go back
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>>566126290
Wait, what's the OC I need to know what holes they got
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Did Drago draw some gay kino already?
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Imagine hugging Shadow
Imagine Shadow's confused surprised face as he feels your warm embrace
Imagine Shadow's eyes as he realizes he is safe and cared in your arms
Imagine Shadow letting his guard down as he lets you press your face against his soft cheeks
Imagine Shadow letting go a quite tender sight as you kiss his forehead
Imagine Shadow curling up together in the sofa as you both quietly drifting off to sleep
Imagine making Shadow cum hands-free just from the relentless assault on his swollen prostate
Imagine Shadow as he wakes up at tell you how much he means to you with a warm smile
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>hides your post
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>>566126665
GIWTWM
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>>566126609
He took like 5 days to make every request the last time so I suppose he didn't deliver anything yet
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>>566126435
I fucking forgot the page I was talking about! I'm sorry!
The last thing I wonder is if they are letting IDW exclusive characters play too this time do you expect to see surge and kit or lanolin, jewel, belle tangle and whisper? oh and why does beast boy look a bit like a girl and were starfire's eyes alwys green like that? this is the first time I've seen the comic titans my only experience with them is the 2003 show. Imagine static vs surge, it'd love to see that but they'd probably do black lighting instead, I barely know that guy but I grew up on static
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sthg isn't a place to discuss sonic. it's a battleground for discord and twitterfags to air their grievances while passing it off as news about sonic, like proxy wars. this place would die immediately if all of it was banned
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I WANT TO FUCK MOBIANS RAAAAAAA
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>>566126726
You are gay for not wanting to make shadow happy and fuck him
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Did Drago already draw Soliel?

Or is he too twinky for him?
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>>566126864
I think half the general are twitter users who know about each other on twitter and come here to blow off steam anonymously
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>>566125387
Who the fuck is Sliver? I don't play terrible games.
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>>566126883
stop spamming your shitty porn fantasies, woman
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>>566126936
I will impregnate her so many times I will single handedly revive the Echidnas.
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>>566125138
Mindbreaking other fandoms is merely a fraction of our collective power level.
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>>566126913
But I come here precisely because I don't want people to know I like or talk about Sonic
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>>566126913
It’s obvious when posts start mentioning random namefags like we are supposed to know them
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you guys are frustrating i've gotta go wageslave then give all my money to the fucking gas i'll be back in 8 hours
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>>566126473
I honestly feel like a lot of fans would be happier with the series if ST pulled a Nintendo and just endlessly remade SA1 (ST's Star Fox 64 equivalent) with new additions and gimmicks, rather than do what they are currently doing with the series.
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Game Idea.

Sonic dies and goes to the afterlife.

Based?
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>>566127125
This anon is doing it right
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You're attracted to cereal mascots but for videogames
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>>566127357
If only you didn't format your post like a stupid little pussy, I might have read it.
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>>566127349
>meets Jesus
>learns to ressurect on the first try
>Saint Martha has elf ears for some reason
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>>566124403
Do people not remember Evan calling Silver and Blaze siblings? It was the same post where she said she shipped Espio and Vector or something
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>>566127584
color her legs correctly next time
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>>566127584
I'm more of a Tangle guy
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>>566127451
You mean video game mascots who remind you of cereal mascots, or do you mean actual cereal mascots who are pro-video games, like Captain Crunch and Chex Warrior?
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>>566127349
That was Sonic 06.
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>>566126512
she wasn't going to get sonic's dick either way because that would obliterate sonic's character + she wasn't going to surpass or replace amy as the gf/shipbait character. and she wasn't going to be alone either because she already was established as having one sided shipbait with sonic before + sonic team doesn't make any of the female characters relevant without making them connected to some kind of shipping. i understand not liking silvaze but her getting another love interest that is less intrusive to sonic himself was predictable
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Shade..
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>>566127529
People know her by her fruits, not her words.
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>>566127647
sex with captain novolin
(very far from cereal)
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>>566126512
she wasn't really going to get sonic's dick either way since it would obliterate sonic's established character + she wasn't going to replace amy. i understand not liking silvaze but her getting another love interest that wasn't as intrusive to sonic himself was predictable.
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>>566127357
I don't care about "shipping", I just like Blaze and they ruined her.
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>>566126908
>he
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>>566127529
She wrote an entire comic where Silver has a crush on Blaze
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>>566127695
Sonic's character was obliterated when they cast Roger Craig Smith to portray him. Him having an unspoke mutual crush on Blaze is fucking nothing in comparison.
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I'll never get a girl to dress like Vanilla and sex her....
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>>566127782
>she wasn't really going to get sonic's dick either way since it would obliterate sonic's established character
The only shippers who understand this are Sonallyfags because they had to directly suffer Sega's stance on it. Everyone else is delusional.
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>>566127823
You might if you wifed her up.
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>>566127529
Our fujoQUEEN and our gay dads with his son
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>>566127516
>Jesus
>Not Muhammad
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>>566127929
True. She might call me autistic and say no anyway
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>566127801
you might not care about it but it's consistent with sonic team's behaviour before silver or even before blaze. maybe silvaze would unironically be avoided if it wasn't sonic who had that one scene with her in rush but amy/knuckles/cream. but it's too late now. maybe if she gets popular in moveis she might get some content in sol dimension since st currently sees anyone not sonic or shadow as second fiddle not worth investing.
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Jeson's Sonic sounds like a weird middle ground between Japanese and Dub Goku personalities where he's this goofball hero but he isn't stupid or arrogant
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I will simply take Blaze for myself.
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>>566128195
ian...
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>>566128195
Nah, I'm fucking the cat
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>>566127617
(you)
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>>566127015
Faggot
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SEXING namefags
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>>566128318
the absolute state of gaming
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>>566128105
You're a weak little boy who can't even face to who he wants to address. Nothing you write will ever be worth reading.
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>>566127820
kanemaru is the real sonic anyway.

him having a ''crush'' on blaze is headcanon. she just has or had a crush on him because sonic is so cool and sugoi that everyone glazes him in this series. that and silver is the ''future sonic'' so it works as a template. we ve been over this, flynn leaked that blaze has a crush on sonic but not the other way around.
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>>566128316
the faggot is you for wanting to do faggot shit with shadow, FAGGOT
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why would older fiona lust for silver anyway
it doesnt make any sense
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>>566128527
Chill I think they just don't know how to use 4chan.

>>566128105
You can click the post number to insert it into your reply.
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>>566128575
Kys faggot
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i wonder what ian feels like, on a personal level, having been the sonic guy for 20 years now
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>>566128605
It happened. You're going to have to find out why
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>>566127914
there's not really an endgame but there are ships they nudge towards like sonamy,silvaze,shadria

id also say knuxouge but theres not really content post 00s.
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>>566128537
Not according to the devs and their game and Crush 40
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>>566128704
archie fiona is ooc
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>>566128675
you don't care about shadow. you only see him as a sex slave who is easy to dom because of his tragedy.
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>>566125103
I have only two requests for this game

1. Include KnucklesxShade
2. Let me play as Espio
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>>566128468
New Rumble skin?
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>>566128527
was too lazy to find the post besides the search but if you want me to

''you might not care about it but it's consistent with sonic team's behaviour before silver or even before blaze. maybe silvaze would unironically be avoided if it wasn't sonic who had that one scene with her in rush but amy/knuckles/cream. but it's too late now. maybe if she gets popular in moveis she might get some content in sol dimension since st currently sees anyone not sonic or shadow as second fiddle not worth investing.''

and the previous one is about how sonic having any kind of feelings towards blaze is headcanon and would obliterate his character + amy is the more popular shipbait than blaze. silvaze was inevitable.
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>>566128810
tell me one statement from the devs where they state sonic feels something for blaze.
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>>566129247
They won't, Sonic doesn't love anyone and people who think otherwise are delusional especially besties.
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Sonic Team genuinely cannot write a tragedy without relying on shitty Japanese romance tropes.
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>>566129424
But those tropes are in every anime
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>>566129424
What's your reference point for a tragedy without Japanese romance tropes?
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>I wish these Japanese writers wouldn't write like Japanese people
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Sonic Team is incapable of not creating shlock because that's what they think quality means. It's the same type of shit where western writers think character death = good writing.

Just bashing tropes together to elicit strong emotions in my stylish action platformer.
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>>566130034
Sonic Adventure 2 is literally DBZ and Fast and Furious slammed together
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>>566130124
Yeah and like all slop factories it works until it doesn't.
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>>566130124
>DBZ and Fast and Furious
What DBZ storyline is SA2 most similar too?

What F&F movie is SA2 most similar too?
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>>566128952
shadow is easy to dom because of his tragedy
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>>566106345
Can the people in this general admit it's okay for to say "canon sucks" or would they rather dig their heels in and say this is fine.
The people running Sonic Speed Simulator, do not understand how, or why, Sonic Speed Simulator is canon, only that Sega said so.
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>>566130571
It's canon. IDW is canon. Prime is canon.
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>>566130571
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>>566128605
The writer is into cuckolding, so...
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Childish means sterile.
Mature means vulgar.
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>>566130658
Nope.
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>>566130691
the person who made this doesn't care about the culture war and just wants to give you free healthcare btw
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>>566130658
I didn't say they weren't, that's not what I said.
I said canon sucks, because it does.
>>566130691
The person who typed this had a stroke, that or you took this image out of its intended context.
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>>566130762
t. hazbin homotel
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>>566106345
I'm convinced more than ever that Sega just uses the word "canon" as a marketing ploy because they see online that the fans are obsessed with that and use the word to increase sales.
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>>566130831
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This character is like her archie run, she refuses to die in a vault.
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I've never read Archie, is Fiona's entire character being the object of Tails' "save a hoe" syndrome or what
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>>566126136
Knuxails
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what makes Shadow emo or goth
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>>566131521
Tails fell for a robot double of hers, which was based on her younger self, while the real one was a different person and older. Tails projected his feelings from the robot on the real thing, who wasn't attracted to him at all and preferred Sonic and later Sonic's evil twin.
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>>566131792
nta but what happened to the robot? was it still alive? if so, why didn't Tails go for her? Why did Tails dislike the robot in the first place?
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sega's like
>we are not bringing back 90s american sonic. that era is of the past. just let go and move on
and then release a classic sonic comic and a classic sonic game
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haha those FoP shippers sure are pathetic, imagine spending years of your life obsessing over such shallow characters only for the most obvious pairing to be confirmed canon at the end.
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>>566131926
The robot double was a weapon of Robotnik's from what I remember. I think she ended up rusting and just never seen again after that even though she potentially could have returned.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6vWTgxpj3Os
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>>566126823
Traditionally Starfire always has glowing green eyes but it jumps back and forward on either always on or only when she uses her powers
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>>566131981
This is funny because Japanese Classic Sonic's characterization is completely irrelevant to Sega's core American audience but they keep reselling it as if anyone cares
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>>566132352
so cool
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>>566132471
wait a minute...
THAT'S PORN!
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>>566132462
>SatAM/Archie characters
Hard pass.
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>>566131000
Is it the one with Nadia's Special Recipe?
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>>566132608
Nah it's from the movie
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>>566132352
>>566132564
Ian is forever grumpy that he's not freely allowed to write Shadow like this.
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>>566120131
Shippers don't just want to win, they want the losing team to die
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This general would be better if we could post hardcore porn desu siiiiiiigh
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>>566132238
I see. Thank you for informing me
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>>566132564
Archie didn't really write anyone accurately and fans like it because they want to imagine the game characters were this outwardly kind to each other. I think Sonic Prime did a better job showing that Shadow respects Sonic without just turning him into a generic nice guy.
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>>566132841
goon thread sucks anyway so why not
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>>566132841
catbox
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>>566132951
wow audiences don't like douchebag jerkass characters who knew
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They should bring back pantsu shots
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I think amy should be chained up and forced to watch as human women drug sonic and shadow and make them have gay yaoi sex in front of her and she hates it but her pussy is dripping
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>>566133182
The game version ls on the most popular. Seethe, comicbaby.
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>>566106345
So ESP Silver is canon?
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>>566106345
>2 years ago
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>>566133182
Game Sonic is nicer than Archie Sonic. Game Shadow is meaner than Archie Shadow.
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>>566125103
I jerked off to this
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>>566132951
No. Specifically characters like Shadow and Silver had their attitudes toned down while Sonic's was ramped up. And from how Ian spoke about the characters in the past when it came to Archie, he didn't like other characters opposing Sonic like how he didn't like other villains opposing Eggman. So Shadow and Silver were made docile in Sonic's case, because if those two were actually written in-character around Archie Sonic, most if not all of their interactions with him would've turned into a brawl.
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>>566133740
i can believe that
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>>566106345
Iizuka needs to fuck off with this. Making as much stuff canon as possible isn't making the canon better.
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So why is all this crap canon but not Blade of Courage? Is it because the cringe "Lore Team" isn't touching it?
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I bet Naka told Iizuka to never put any non canon shit in the games so Iizuka decided to make everything after Boom canon.
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Sonic characters for this feel?
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>>566134120
Silver and Blaze
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>>566134098
because sega said so
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>>566134098
>So why is all this crap canon but not Blade of Courage
Because it doesn't release in america and is just a random short adventure that changes nothing
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>>566134437
>Because it doesn't release in america
Maybe Iizuka should've clarified that when he started talking about "connecting" the franchise.
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>>566127807
And how old do you think that comic is? Last I heard of it she turned Sonic, Tikal and Shadow into a poly couple or some shit kek.
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>>566134703
RAPERAPERAPERAPERAPERAPERAPERAPERAPERAPERAPERAPERAPERAPERAPERAPERAPERAPERAPERAPERAPERAPERAPE
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>>566134667
Rouge was also supposed to get involved at the very end.
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Maybe the manga has something that fully breaks canon like a time skip
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>>566134851
It's really because Ian's name isn't on it.
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nobody here cares about canon anyway except for the possibility of using it as a beating stick against whatever part of the franchise they happen to dislike
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>>566134437
Sonic Channel stories are canon and they don't release outside Japan.
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>>566134750
n-nyoooo i'm the ultimate....*shniff* uuuuuuu maria
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>>566134835
I shouldn't have read Shadow's Stiff as a child
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Esta gata es muy bastarda.
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We need to bring back Crashdow. Thr shadowfags need to be put in line again.
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Blaze has facial hair
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>>566135429
I just realized how much his name gets misspelled here
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>>566135429
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>>566135408
Blaze's whiskers
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We should JSID everything NOW.
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>>566133625
Espilver is canon, but not the alternative timeline headcanon people got from him. He is just Silver right before Fighting Solaris
>>566130571
Some of the lore introduced there was cool. Like the recent event saying the phantom ruby made a copy of Infinite because it misses him
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>>566135014
Shadow is to girls what Rouge the Bat is to boys
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>won again by bribing the ref
That's the supersonic way!
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>>566135602
he's cute with his little shorts
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>>566134703
I will never rape you Shadow. You can dry all your tears on my shoulders
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>>566135539
>Espilver is canon
I wish...
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>>566135539
>Espilver is canon
I'm so happy for them
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Which Sonic characters would go on a cruise ship and catch a contagious virus with a 40% fatality rate then walk through an entire populated african airport then die there?
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>>566135746
>>566135779
Damn I accidentally messed up didn't I?
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>I heard you were talking shit about Blaze
>You will pay
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>>566135815
The one that you hate the most?
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>>566135539
>Espilver is canon, but not the alternative timeline headcanon people got from him. He is just Silver right before Fighting Solaris
Source?
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>>566135185
Esa gata es una reverenda HIJA DE PUTA
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I'm ooc
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Shadamy!
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*Fucks your OC*
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>>566135815
>Orthohantaviruses are rodent-borne viruses that cause severe, often fatal, respiratory (HPS) or renal (HFRS) illnesses in humans. Transmitted via inhalation of aerosolized virus from rodent droppings/urine
Sticks.
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>>566135905
Progs don't even pretend their political project has any benefits anymore they just make slop like this
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Jatpack joybunny
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>>566135815
Big would be asymptomatic and spread the virus everywhere
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>>566135673
Would you cuddle Shadow?
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>>566136195
My character is up-winger.
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>>566136283
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Would you help her?
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>>566135905
Racism is literally good for you and animals are racist too liberals just see natural behavior as evil since they are unnatural dystopian products pumped full of lab drugs to affirm made up identities printed on forged papers in false offices to use them for capitalistic profit
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>>566136381
cute!
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>>566135905
These people's conception of racism is pseudoscience like everything else they believe.
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Late night cream posting
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>>566136519
I lived long enough to see both left and right rethoric to merge in a single whatever the fuck political alignment.
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>>566136814
>Late night
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>Hey pretty boy, come here often?
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>POV you show Shadow your human cock
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>>566136742
>Season 1 had a terrible voice
Are they watching it in English?
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>>566136793
but The Science™ said black kill each other because of internalized racism caused by their band-aids being the wrong color!
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>>566136472
You just know peachs pussy was full of fox knot in the Mario movie
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>>566137018
He would love my human cock!
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>>566126609
soon, sorry for the wait

>>566126908
I have drawn him before but it doesn’t look like it’s on the booru, I can post it later
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ODIO A LOS NEGROS
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>>566137157
Blacks kill each others because i spam "nigger" over the internet.
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Samuraiver
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Your heroes.
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>>566137178
Good. Mario cuck ass "where my hug at?" Deserves to get his bitch took I hope she got double teamed nasty style by birdo and mouser in the casino backrooms too
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>>566137859
Shadow will never love that whore bat
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Mario is for DK.
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Sexdow
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>>566137928
How many of those replies were
>"That's his sister Sonia."
? Because it's clearly not enough
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>>566137928
Sonic wouldnt be against that even if he knew
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>>566137658
Source?
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>>566137786
The longer I stay here, the more I start to think dating a guy wouldn't be so bad, if only to stop being alone. I don't know if I could be into a guy like I'm into women though. Sonic the Hedgehog.
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>>566137928
Big boobs are genetic to Sonic
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>>566137286
Fiona is the most based Sonic character ever
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Let the bodies hit the floor.
Let the bodies hit the floor.
Let the bodies hit the floor.
Let the bodies hit the...
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>>566138462
FLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOR
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>>566138538
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>>566138197
Sonic met Sonia as a teenager so there would be no psychological barrier
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>>566138713
take it to the bridge
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>>566138850
https://youtube.com/watch?v=zo80gXXIH_o
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Sonic wouldn't fuck his sister
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>>566138851
who the fuck was that slop made for? what were they thinking?
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>>566137658
Do you think he committed sepukku after losing the war?
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windcest
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Supposedly, Sonic Frontiers was meant to be like the "third generation", where Sonic Adventure is the second, and Sonic 1 is the first.

So the most pivotal games in the series are Sonic 1, Sonic Adventure & Sonic Frontiers.

From a certain perspective, that kind of makes sense, since Frontiers in some ways feels like a direct successor to SA1 in terms of lore and the cast and such.
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>>566139323
Don't say this again
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>>566139352
You forgot Sonic the Hedgehog (2006)
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What's up with the sudden burst Krystal posting? What did I missed?
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>>566139613
No, I'm going by an interview a few years ago where Iizuka said that Frontiers is the 'third generation' after Sonic Adventure. Like the next major evolution in the series after SA1's transition from 2D to 3D.

Really, 06 is just another adventure game in spirit.

Personally, I'd think Unleashed would count as a major evolution, but it seems like Sonic Team just doesn't see the boost formula as any different from the adventure formula, so whatever.
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There is no reason to name a game sa3 if it's going to have boosting and marvel humor
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>>566139736
New old Starfox got announced.
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>>566139245
what war
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>>566139784
Iizuka is either delusional or blowing smoke up our asses and I really hope it's the latter.
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>>566140110
Sonic might not be for me anymore.

Nothing is desu
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Krystal should join our series
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>waiting 30 years for their favorite third episode of "Cartoon Hedgehog Adventures"
Sounds more painful than half-life 3.
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We need to kill all furshitters.
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>>566127807
ehh that's what everyone who was into silver or blaze in 00s did by default. nowadays he probably graduated into being only into yaoi. she doesn't really write silver and blaze with romantic intent in idw or her newer content.
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>>566141253
>30 years of cliff hanger
>to be met with a "90s american sonic? he pretend it never was"
shitga sucks
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Why do people keep gaslighting people into thinking Tikal ans Chaos went back inside the MasterEmerald after SA1? It isnt their home or something. And nothing in the games implies this.
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>>566141361
Mystery Nigga
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Memes are a good gauge on fandom perceptions.

Tangle and Whisper are already washed.
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I see there's a Vanilla in the series, but where is Chocolate?
What if cream's father is Chocolate?
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>>566142134
Vanilla the Snow Bunny
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>>566142134
You forgot Chocola the Chao, Cheese's brother.
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>>566142134
"Chocolate" is Cheese's brother, Chocola.

I believe Cream's dad was Ice.
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>>566115630
I really like him too. I can just imagine him doodling pictures of whatever she describes Sol to be like.
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By sonic's logic, there must be a mobian out there whose name is "Sperm".
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>>566142661
>Nine killed posting
Oh nHNNNNgggghhh
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Killed the thread award.
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>>566118206
You can get to Master Emerald F2P no problem, though it will take a few weeks of gathering the Chaos Emerald stars, but you have no chance whatsoever of staying in there. Those who stay either play 8+ hours a day while still having a good score they paid for, spend a lot on boosters, or have above 10k+%. Or a combination on the above most likely. If your Master Emerald group is randomly decided to be bullshit with the high leaderboard spot types, it's worse, but Master Emerald barely gives anything extra compared to Chaos Emerald so who gives a shit though
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>Can we get 90s american sonic please?
>"No. that's a bygone era *releases classic sonic merch". you need to stop living in the past *releases superstars* and we are not a retro company.. one minute please *approves jakks classic sonic action figs* anyways, those characters live in the past and they off model *releases movie sonic skin on rumble* and they are very off brand *adds sonic boom to meta era banner* and you should just let go *writes a blog post about sonic 06 tanabata on sonic channle*
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>>566144058
>Ooooh it's sooo hard to fly
BB has faught literal gods and turned into creatures and aliens that can destroy entire planets. I hate how they have to glaze the Sonic cast so hard ny making it seem like these super powered heroes who have been doing super hero stuff since before most of the sonic cast even existed can barely keep up with them.

I'm not even a power scaler but DC supes in particular are broken as fuck. There is absolutely no way Sonic is out running the Flash. Hell, Speed Force Flash would play with Super Sonic like a child.
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>>566140395
Any war
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>>566144296
comic character power levels are extremely susceptible to writer whims bro we've had Catwoman beat 3 Flashes in a fight at once
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>>566143987 (Me)
I had this conversation with Barnes the other day
Some guy was upset about boc not being canon because not canon means will be forgotten the moment it ends. Barnes said no it doesn't then I jumped him and told him that we can clearly see that effect on 90s american sonic and sonic x stuff. he tried to counter with the movies being acknowledged but i told him the movies are ALIVE. those other media dead.
then he started moving the goal post by saying sonic fans don't know how to let get and they keep living in the past. Bro was shilling his IDW classic sonic issue.
what the fuck is this dual standards goal post moving shit?
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>>566144296
>There is absolutely no way Sonic is out running the Flash.
What part of "Fastest Thing Alive" DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND!?

>I'm not even a power scaler but
Don't lie to me. You're out here low-balling the power-level of the Sonic cast, when there's no reason to make that kind of assumption.

Sonic is a rubberhose cartoon mascot, with shonen battle influences, as an action-adventure series with a lot of sci-fi and fantasy, all while playing fast and loose with it all, and all the characters have superpowers just because. That is the perfect soup for insanely high power levels as the default.

The basis for Sonic himself is being exactly as fast as the Flash is because that's what "fastest thing alive" means. He's a FTL speedster that can even travel through time when the plot demands it. And Sonic is our main protagonist of this video-game platformer action series, so that automatically means that most of the other playable characters MUST ALSO have at least a fraction of that insanely high speed and power to varying degrees.


To even suggest that the Flash would outrun Sonic is breaking the very concept of Sonic's character. You can't go in to Sonic and expect him to have ANY limit to how fast he can go. That is not how the series works, has ever worked, or will ever work. Sonic is "Fast", period. Fastest Thing Alive, perfectly equal to the Flash just because. Expecting anything less is nonsensical.
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>>566143987
>THEY'RE LITERALLY REMASTERING EVERYTHING THAT CAME OUT IN THE 90s TO FEED THE NOSTALGIAFAGS!
>>Well, let's hope it's more SAFE than EDGY!
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Seriously, where the heck does anyone get this expectation that Sonic characters are or should be weak!?
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>>566144707
Best him in a fight. Not in a race.
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>powerlevels
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>>566144729 (Me)
He tried to move the goalpost further by comparing Sally to Oogtar and satam to super mario world (the cartoon)
I told him satam and archie ran for far longer and sally was a main character for more than 20 years and there's a natural demand for that media. comparing them to super mario world is unfair
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>>566144734
Nah. IDW is having to nerf the DC cast to make the sonic characters seem competent by comparison. Watch, they're going to have the Legion job so Sonic characters just so they can say "wow that was so easy, you just fight these dudes all the time?"

Meanwhile, any one main member of the Justice League could take on the hardest villain Sonic has faced in the last twenty years.
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>>566145112
>they're going to have the Legion job so Sonic characters just so they can say "wow that was so easy, you just fight these dudes all the time?"
Honestly, I (and really anyone here) really shouldn't expect anything better for children's crossover slop
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flamejob
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>>566136080
I'm still in shock from that direct
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Sonic is a Gary Stu. Shadow is on his level. So are Silver and Blaze. Shadow is always around and Silver and Blaze have plot convenient ways of helping.

Also Knuckles and the others are not slouches and round out any skill set that may be required when punching fails.

There should be nothing at all in Sonic’s world that should threaten them outside of god kaiju.
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Is it true that Espio is a Mexican larping as a japanese ninja, and that he owns a million dollar Hatsune Miku figurine collection?
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>>566145294
"We shouldn't criticize them for dumbing down characters that have existed for eighty years besides hurr durr childrens comic"

Then maybe they should crossover with MLP or Care Bears and not actual adult comic characters that have sex and drugs and death in their plots.
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>>566145484
You can do as you wish but you should have some awareness of what Sonic is and what the purpose of the comic is
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>>566145425
The world of Sonic is full of powerful magical creatures that can kill Sonic at any time. It's a hellish world that seems good on the outside
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>>566145660
"Kids" aren't the ones buying the comic. Stop using that made up excuse to justify shitty writing.
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Well if getting a gf is like driving my car, i need some easy woman to practice first.
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No like seriously I'm not even fucking arguing the point that this comics are shit and that the people working on them need to be fired. I am literally just arguing the fact that Flynn has outright admitted that he actively tries not to do his job and is still paid for it in full.

My argument isn't even "thing is bad so fire people who are making thing" it's "thing is bad because the people in charge of making it are doing everything in their power to not put effort into it."

Like holy fuck I genuinely feel like at times I'd have a better time talking to a literal brick wall than I do talking to some of you on here (and on Twitter because I can tell who you people are from the logical fallacies you invoke constantly.)

The first podcast with Laviarray should have turned all of you against him since he literally admitted on livestream that he writes his stories a week before they're due and only spends a few hours max on them.

This guy gets paid over 35k a year for a job he literally admits he doesn't even fucking do.

What possible moral argument could anyone give to actually justify him still working on this comic when he LITERALLY ADMITTED HE DOESN'T DO HIS JOB!

Like I feel like I'm going fucking insane here at times.

How is someone like this so public and open in how much he hates his bosses, his job and his restrictions and yet there are people who will die on the hill that he's better for the franchise than the people who spilt blood, sweat and tears making sure the IP didn't die back in the 2000's and then die again in the 2010's.

Ian's attachment to this franchise is literally the money they pay him for the lack of effort of doing his job. Please try to justify to me or anyone else why anyone in this industry should continue to write him a check when he outright explains how much he hates the very people who pay his paycheck.
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>>566145425
Gary Stu apparently is when a main character is competent rather than a goober who needs to grow into noy being a goober.
Apparently.
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Goku? Gary stu
Luffy? Gary stu
Super Man? Gary stu
Sonic? Gary stu
They shouldn't be allowed to be cool, or a representation of gay shit like Hope o the unbreakable spirit, that changes the world around in a positive way. They should be funny penis men that slip on their balls and fall on their penis, and be relatable to me and only me!
Super man needs to be edgy!
Sonic needs to be steven universe!
Goku needs to kiss his wife!
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Gary's stew
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Not even a Sonamy fan but this makes me root for it more.
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>>566146521
The only good part of the post was "with Shadow"
Shadamy is very cute.
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>>566146604
cnc
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Sonic fans would have an aneurysm if he had Flash's rogue gallery and lost several times to any of them
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>>566146604
I would respect Shadamy more if the fans didn't shit on Sonamy every five seconds.
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>>566146384
>Goku needs to kiss his wife!
Correct, one thing is being a fightfag, another thing is being retarded. You can tell Chi-chi gets railed by the whole town after Goku is gone.
Your perception of "cool" is gay as fuck and you need to double check your moral values faggot
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>>566146001
>he actively tries not to do his job and is still paid for it in full
Well as much as we hate him, can we really blame him?

He can't do what he was passionate about in his younger years, like turning the rat into his own personal capeshit story and fuck up with lesbianism and melodrama anymore.
Least he could do is to accept he sucks as indie writer (dragune) and the fact no other company would entertain as much bullshittery as SEGA does, like NDA infringement selling lore breadcrumbs in a podcast.

The bitter truth:
You're writing for a children franchise, They must pander to children, and you're not in the 90s anymore you can't mix adult themes with children media.
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Sonic's flaw is ironically being controlling when it comes to his ideals. If you don't agree with his idea of freedom he WILL get in your face about it
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>>566146684
huh we don't. we don't give a crap about sonamy. sonamyfags however...
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>>566146684
That's every shipper sadly, you went against the cult.
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>>566146384
>Goku needs to kiss his wife
But that's Piccolo's, Vegeta's, Trunk's, Tien's, Roshi's, Gohan's, and Bacterium's job...
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>>566146698
Goku never kissed his, wife you need to move on chi-chi...
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Also the only racist Sonic characters would be Zomom or Storm
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>>566146384
>Goku? Gary stu
>Luffy? Gary stu
>Super Man? Gary stu
t. you never understood any of those characters, because they unironically go develop throughout their stories instead of being born as already powerful like sonic does. They get defeated multiple times, unlike fucking sonic.
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>>566146521
But it's true. Her love for Sonic is always one sided. Until Sonic says something, her loving someone who actually needs the moral support, like Shadow, it's just objectively better. Besides their color match better
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Does Japan like Star Fox?
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>>566147062
Zomom is a bigot.
Storm doesn't know what he's saying and uses every racial slur against the wrong minorities.
He's trying to be racist though.
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>>566146742
>They must pander to children,
they can't even get that right
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>>566146862
Shadamy fans do care. If they didn't care, they wouldn't make Sonic the devil's incarnate in their fanworks.
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i used to hate shadamy until i realized classic sonic is dead and modern shitnic is an abomination
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>>566147104
SA2? ShTH? 06? Unleashed? Forces? Frontiers?
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>>566147172
Kinda
Sonic has only slightly edged him out but that’s due to amount of games and spin offs
Star Fox in Japan has sold around 1.6 million copies across the 7 games we have info on
Sonic has sold around 4.4 million copies in Japan, but if you remove the Olympic titles it drops down to 1.7 million
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>>566147274
those who do so are ex-sonamyfags who think sonic is an a hole for not reciprocating. the rest are like
>amy got rizzed by shadow and she likes shadow now and they go on dates
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>>566147448
the problem is sega wanted a mascot, they got an actual character with complications and fuckups, and sega has been scrubbing out the depth ever since
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>>566147104
Luffy is a gary stu. He is the chosen one who will save the world with his chosen one special snowflake devil fruit and the reincarnation of pirate Jesus from 100p years ago. One piece is literally Naruto 2.0
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>>566146862
>Toonsite is Fucking cringe
>now become private account
>Shadamy ship is make no sense
chat I'm in love
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>>566147448
None of them had a progression or transformation of sonic into a stronger version of himself, the rat is still the same, has no flaws and need no help. At least in more later iterations because in what you listed the writers somehow cared about "power of freandship and team work".
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>>566147527
The worst selling Star Fox in Japan is like Command and that still broke 90k most Star Fox games tend to break 100k
In America is different since Command, Assult, Zero, are MIA from most listings for info on them likely due to embarrassment from the staff
Even Adventure gets mentioned which is slightly interesting since the guy who leaked this Star Fox game said they were doing a classic Star Fox and and Adventure style one next year
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Sonamy isn't one-sided. Sonic is just a tsundere. Read the game manuals if you don't believe me.
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>>566147715
>Luffy is a gary stu
Luffy has a lot of flaw, like being a stubborn retard who almost costed the life of his friends. Let's not fuck up the definition of Mary sue/Gary stu, these usually solve the story turning every other plot device into useless shit.
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>>566147820
Kill all larpers
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None of those characters are gary stus because none of them are fanfiction characters.
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>>566145058
lol it’s always the Oogtar comparison. That lil nigga wasn’t even that prominent in the Mario World show and he hasn’t been used since the show’s end in 1991, meanwhile Archie died in 2017.
It shouldn’t be too hard to have the Freedom Fighter group in IDWs Classic fanservice book. Even for just a single story.
Addressing the hang ups that I see people have, Sonic doesn’t need to be a permanent member of their group, they don’t need to be permanent main characters, nor does Sally need to be portrayed as a love interest. FFS they don’t need to carry over all the lore and emotional baggage over from Pre-Boot Archie
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>>566148123
Adios, Miles the Prower...
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2027.
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>>566148242
>you need to let go of the past, lil bro *writes classic sonic idw book as a tie in to a classic sonic game* it's off brand *releases movie sonic dlc level for sxsg*
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>>566147997
His fights just don't feel earned after the reveal. I hope Sonic never does that
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>>566148617
Goes beyond that too, Sonic 4 came out in 2010. This series has been in “member the 90s?!” mode for 16 years now, longer than the 90s were around for.
They’ll find some way to use Green Hill and Chemical Plant again for the next game. They just used them in the Shinobi DLC
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Why do you subhumans pretend western media was ever good? Even Looney Tunes and Tom & Jerry sucked.
This is a jap site.
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>>566148907
kfp2 had a better villain than anything sega could hope to write
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>>566147104
Goku was born already powerful and wrecks everyone casually in OG dragonball until Tao PaiPai. He loses to tambourine only because he was hungry.
He beats him right after.
King Piccolo becomes a retard for two seconds to allow him to live and get a plot device to make him strong enough to beat him.

Gary stu isnt just being le strong. Only retards think this.
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>>566149063
Bart Simpson is more iconic than your Taiwanese Flipbook characters
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>>566148907
i mean, one piece sucks ass in writing although long ass series like these have the same problem, i just think sonic has it worse than a lot of them.
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>>566147150
>needs the moral support
Shadow doesnt need it. Its just Zutara. Wanting the nice girl to be with the bad boy.
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>>566149140
Eh, it would have been amazing if one of his friends actually died. The "inner peace" message felt flat because Panda never really lost anything. I don't know why /co/ praise it so much, Tigress should have died or something
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>>566149214
Colono? No I won't ask anything that's tranny shit but hot art.
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>>566149214
Amy, no, come back, I need you to help cure my erection...
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>>566149604
it's entirely carried by gary oldman's performance and a well designed finale sequence
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What happened here? Why is Sonic stuck?
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>>566149349
>anon the OG dragonball sucks ass
Ok? Sonic wakes up every morning and the same trick to defeat every God villain is always turning into supersonic, even the movie give him way more struggle than gamenic.
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>>566148907
Unrelated but this "the real power was inside you all along" trope fucking sucks. Like you think I didn't already know that? Just give me a cool sword. Fuck.
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>>566149990
ok yuuta
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>>566149868
This is such a surface level take. Super Sonic is not super saiyan. It isn't just a thing Sonic does to win a fight. It is a thing that represents a narrative payoff related to the collective effort of the cast. Sonic just becomes the catalyst for it.
Everything up to the point of him doing that is actual story with actual challenges, ups and downs etc.
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>>566149990
This message confuses and enrages chosen onetards
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>you
>disgusting
>black creatures
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"He can just go Super Sonic" like the nigga doesn't require relying on the Chaos Emeralds to even achieve such a state (and that half the fights involving it require other characters' aid)
Can we twist this nigga's nuts into pretzels and drown him in horseradish
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>>566150143
the original super saiyan transformation was way more of a narrative payoff than any super sonic transformation in the games lol
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Breaking news:
I jerked off to this guy once more.
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>>566137223
found it
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>>566150431
nice, tho face proportions are way off
anyway, when did you draw this piece? That's my OC and I wasn't aware for days? Weeks? Months?
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>>566138713
LET THE BODIES HIT THE FLOOR
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>>566150143
>Super Sonic is not super saiyan
Still a super form.
>collective effort of the cast
Doing bullshit until sonic shows up and save the day? Yes. None of them give the villain a real hard time.
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>>566150431
Femboys... Love'em.
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Tails is the best
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>>566150586
Nobody cares about your garbage OC
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>>566150857
Weird way to spell knuckls and and even stranger image of knuckles.
Was the artist color blind?
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>>566150586
yeeeah, I need to practice human head anatomy more
I drew them pretty quickly after they were posted, it was a fun night

>>566150789
I'll have the chance to draw Soleil again one day

>>566150905
don't be rude
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>>566150431
Nice, kisses are cute!
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>>566150905
I do.
>bu-
They turned me on. Like ALL good characters do.
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>>566150905
report the post then
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>None of them give the villain a re--
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OCfaggotry hours
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>>566150976
It's okay Knuckles you're cool too ^-^
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>>566151157
Pretty sure big was the reason why Metalic Madness lost to Super Sonic, he weakened him THAT much.
Without big he'd likely beat Super Sonic with zero effort.
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Oh hey it's the girl who got raped by some random Sonic OC 10 years ago
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The Chaos Emeralds are miracle gems that manifest thoughts into power. Super Sonic is a shooting star and a manifestation of everyone's wishes.

Which is why Super Shadow and Super Silver fucking suck
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anyway time to take to the skies, have a good day my friends
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Super Silver fucking sucks before he didnt do that much to deserve it
Shadow at least had some character arc in SA2
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>>566151427
Super Shadow and Silver has everyone praying near them to go super you fucking moron
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>>566151534
bro is going to atlanta
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>>566151427
Shadow is the manifestation of ones wishes too, with Gerald and Maria, Super Shadow is him choosing Marias pure wish.
Silver has a fat penis and his super form represents the power of having a long cock granting the wishes of women's pussies.
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Idk if you niggas are for real, but goku in dragonball had to train hard if he wanted to defeat his opponents. And in Z not only that but the hardships, the blood spilled by freezer, the moral disgust goku felt to the point of unlocking a new form, that's still memorable this day.

Sonic is not able to do this, because sega doesn't want to raise stakes anymore. They did it in Sonic X but only for a brief period when sonic went dark after chris was hurt by the metarex, but eggman defused him.

Sonic can indeed do the same as major franchise, but is not allowed to.
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>>566151603
Yeah that's just kinda already Sonic's thing. Shadow and Silver are just kinda there. Even the Heroes super bubbles are better.
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>>566151605
Dallas!
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>>566151723
Silver is a cute, shy bottom though
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>>566151862
Uwuver fanfiction.
Siler is a rude powerbottom.
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>>566151534
OCshit is off-topic.
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>>566151912
taking it up the ass is punk as fuck!
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>>566151723
>Shadow
Fair enough, but it only works in SA2.

Super Silver is still a fraud.
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>>566151994
How tight is that pussy girl?
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>>566150372
The first time sure. But every time after its just a "become stronger" ability.
SuperSonic got its start as a payoff for collecting optional mcguffins.
Thats been its function gameplay wise and narrative wise since. Completion.
Narratively it represents an effort in the collection of the mcguffins in order to overcome something powerful. Its not just a "become stronger" button because it has to actually be earned every time and usually requires everyone work together to do it.
SuperSonic isn't about Sonic becoming stronger. That's missing the point.
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Anime won
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>>566150727
This just proves my point that this is just characterfagging and jealousy. This isnt about whether it makes Sonic a Gary stu. Its being jealous Sonic does it and your pet character doesn't.
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>>566152543
the effort leading up to unlocking super saiyan and its variations is bigger than the effort leading up to getting the chaos emeralds
and now that i think about it, super saiyan god is more like super sonic in the way that it is unlocked
I think frontiers handled the super forms pretty well
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I want Tangle's fat ass in the games serving seemingly no purpose but to waste smen of men.
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>>566152803
This is deflection + retardation because you don't get i'm shitting on sonic as whole.
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>>566152034
>it only works in SA2.
It works in ShTH, before he transforms he literally gets encouragement from beyond the grave, Gerald and Maria place their hopes for the future of humanity in Shadow, those words aren't just what motivated Shadow to overcome Doom's mind control, the positive thoughts within him are what allow him to harness the power of the emeralds and become Super Shadow.
It wasn't just Gerald and Maria either, the entire cast puts their faith in Shadow alone to save them and entire planet from Black Doom, the moment was earnt.
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What if this hentai virus was in Sonic's world? Who would die first?
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Oh it's a /co/fag RUMAO
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Super forms are basically a power up fulfilled by the wishes of others, last sign of hope.
That's why Sonic, Shadow and Silver are cool.
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/co/ didn't storytime the DC issue
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>>566151534
How are the things coming along?
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>>566153506
its why silver only got it once
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They should've called it Over Shadow instead.
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>>566153506
Silver is such a whiny baby jfc
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>>566151534
you too dragobro
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>>566153935
>Jet fucking candy
Why is jet fucking candy kong?
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>>566152940
>the effort leading up to unlocking super saiyan
It was mostly just Goku getting beaten up over and over and getting free power boosts for it because of how he was born.
You're missing the point of Supersaiyan as well.
The point of Superdaiyan is goku reconciling his nature as a saiyan with his self concept. It isnt about "earning it". It'd about accepting it
>I think frontiers handled the super forms pretty well
Gameplaywise sure. Narratively its okay. Thr emeralds lead them to thr islands and we learn about the people thar brought them to earth to begin with and Sonic collects and uses them to defeat the being that terrorized those people to begin with.
Final Horizon makes it a little better as well.
The point is SuperSonic isn't about having the ability to be powerful. It's been about the narrative collective will of people coming together to make a miracle happen. Sonic is just the catalyst for it, with his symbolic significance being the anchor for it all.

SuperSaiyan God actually does work more similar to SuperSonic. It isn't about Goku just becoming stronger, but the payoff of his actions and connections he made. He essentially recreated the plight of the good saiyans that failed to stop the evil ways of their kind. The evil saiyans are gone and only good and reformed ones remain, and they come together to grant Goku the power to save them.

...Until they do the whole saiyan beyond god thing and he absorbs it into his base and they never do the ritual again making it just a "get stronger" power but I digress.

Even with all that, none of that makes Goku a Gary Stu.
Even in Early DB, Goku is more the tool Bulma uses to overcome problems at risk to herself moreso than him being able to beat people being the point. Then the next arc he gets curbed by Roshi out of winning the Tenkaichi.
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>>566129335
This, Sonic is a psychopath.
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>>566153065
You're doing a bad job. Criticize shit like Sonic being Eggman's emerald errand boy in SA1 for no reason.
Or Knuckles' strength being a meme.
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Boys <3
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>>566153506
Silver having it is him being a forced meme. Same with Blaze. But at least Blaze had a narrative payoff around it. They do the whole thing about how all thr ani.als in the forest saw her fighting to help the world and believe in her and how she needed to also believe in herself so it works.
Silver just can do it because he is another male hedgehog who can use Chaos Control because the writing says so.
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>>566154116
>It was mostly just Goku getting beaten up over and over and getting free power boosts for it because of how he was born.
I'll agree that the zenaki boosts do a lot, but if he were to not have done ANY training up until his fight with frieza then SSJ wouldn't have done him much good.
I agree with the rest of your post, good lad
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>>566149789
He's in shock after Amy grabbed his hands and pulled him closer
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>>566154291
>Criticize shit like Sonic being Eggman's emerald errand boy in SA1 for no reason.
You're conflating me with another guy, baka.
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DBZ forms are a real crapshoot when you think about it. Sonic did a decent job at preventing power creep and keeping them narratively relevant.
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>Woah, I'm realing feeling the rush, the colors feels so right! This is your bad omen eggman, I'll unleash power Super Sonic Style! This is your Final frontier, I will save Green Hill Zone Act 2, and no copywrite law in the universe is gonna stop me!
-Sonic The Hedgehog
>True dat
-Miles
>You are rougher than rest of them Sonic!
-knuckles the enchilada
>My platonic freind Sanic can do this the tarot cards predicted this!
-emzberry rose
>The ultimate lifeform SHITS where he pleases!
-Shadow the Yardley
>I'm cumming!
-Silver teh hog
>I hate Tanuki, and their shit color fur.. Ruin MY kingdom. I can say this I have a tanuki friend btw!
-Tryant the cat
>SOMETHING BITING!
-Big the cat
>HEDGECOCK IS AMAZING!
-Elise the human woman
>WITHOUT the TIME STONES!?
Ian the Flynn
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If you hate this, and you advocate for JP Sonic, you're not a REAL JP fan.
PERIOD.
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>>566155097
>Sonic did a decent job at preventing power creep and keeping them narratively relevant.
It doesn't take any effort to limit the super forms to 3 characters
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>>566155185
Japan can make mistakes... SOA is just worse...
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>>566155152
They did not say that.
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>>566155185
His side angle doesn't look too bad, but i'll take literally any other model of fox over this.
>>566155291
This isn't even a mistake, this is just a blatant "Fuck you" from nintendo
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>>566154549
>Silver just can do it because he is another male hedgehog
Wrong
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>>566129247
Sakae Osumi said, "Blaze-san will become Sonic-san's lover!"
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>>566155097
Yeah, whatever helps you sleep at night.
Only thing i say against dragon ball is that it's powerscalingslop and had to end sooner than later.
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>>566155291
True, who asked for Sonic 4? A sane Classic autist would have told SoA to fuck off with that and stick to sprites.
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>>566155291
06
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>>566154549
Correct. Hell it makes even more sense and had a bigger narrative payoff when fucking Tails unlocks it through the Super Emeralds
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>>566155424
She needs to fuck Silver so she can give birth Sonic first since Sonic is the sun of Silver who got blasted to the past. Then Sonic needs to fuck Amy so she can give birth Blaze and Silver.
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>>566155501
To be fair, Sonic 4 was originally going to be called Sonic the Portable, it was never meant to be a follow-up to Sonic & Knuckles that takes place before Sonic Adventure.
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>>566155202
There's also Burning Blaze, Dragon Trip, super bubbles, quasi-super badniks, and all the other SSS forms.
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>>566155647
Silver has no relation to anyone else in the series
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>>566155874
>super bubbles
extremely lame
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Sonic americans like to hate Naka guts so much, but god imagine if they were western Dragon Ball fans hearing what Torishima has to say
>>>/a/287914169
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Movie 4 will actually show us that Amy is Shadow's daughter and her rings are inhibitor rings.
And the Shadow is a genetic copy of Sonic, so Amy X Sonic technically incest. But they'll fuck anyways.
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>>566155202
So true.
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No real REAL JP SONIC defends fangames
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>>566155501
>who asked for Sonic 4?
A lot of people, and it was praised on release. Criticism came from the more hardcore fans and only became widespread after the general audience stopped paying attention.
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>>566156092
>it was praised on release
No the fuck it was not. Episode 1 was an unplayable mess because the physics were HARD fucked and no one cared by the time Episode 2 rolled around to fix it. Sonic 4 bombed on release, period.
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Who cares? Japs are hacks, tranime indirectly created Steven Universe and killed real animation forever.
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Stop saying nonsense, dagon ball is not sonin and one piece is neither sonic nor dragon ball.

They're all different flavor of japanese SLOP, like dragonball is just people screaming and becoming strong or whatever powerscaling stuff, one piece is a road movie with pirates and big uuh jaw dropping mouths.

And sonic is a cartoon rat, he does hello kitty for boys stuff.
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>>566155715
They changed it due to shitty marketing.
They should have just told Gameloft to make it then get Dimps' A-Team (not the B-Team that worked on Sonic 4) to provide the engine.
ALTERNATIVELY they put their trust on Whitehead and he makes Sonic the 4ortable instead.
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>>566129335
>besties
Can someone explain this bestie meme to me already?
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>>566156061
I wish they kept the inverted gimmick like with Sonic and beta Shadow.
Imagine a black Super Silver, that'd be sick as hell.
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>>566156092
>A lot of people, and it was praised on release
These "people" were bandwagoners and was part of the large nostalgia hype wave the New Super Mario Bros sparked
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>>566156243
Mainstream reviewers/journalists and normies in comment sections were praising it. You can go look.

>unplayable mess because the physics were HARD fucked
It's perfectly playable, it just doesn't control like the classics. Yes, the classics have a lot more depth. Physics criticism came from hardcore fans and journalists were mocking them for caring about it.

>>566156378
Yes.
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>>566156261
have you been living under a rock for
a year now?
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>>566155991
this guy is an old retard, no reason to listen to his nonsense
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>>566156248
Stephen Alphaverse is peak and aryanime, im 'fraid
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>>566156742
>those nips
lmao what
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>>566156431
>It's perfectly playable,
It even plays worse than most Dimps games, so much even Cybershell had to apologize for trashing on the prior games over it.
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>>566156742
God I love flat queens, I need to suck per nipples while she shocks me from the pleasure.
I'd glad make her a mom, I don't care I'll fucking take kit as my son or brother in law or whatever the uck he wants to be!
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>>566156261
There's a comic panel, I think from the first DC crossover, where Sonic introduces Amy as his "long time bestie" and the fact that it's from a comic panel really tells you all you need to know about Bestie-posters.
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>>566156979
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>>566156868
Correct, but this isn't about how it plays in comparison to other games. You said the game can't be played. That's false and retarded. It works just fine, the physics and moveset just aren't as fun.
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>>566144964
>that shadow
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>>566155991
Torishima varies from "TRVTHNVKE" to "shut the hell up old man".
I would think he'd put the Sonic franchise back on its own path if he took a look at what the fuck were they doing during the Saturn days
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>>566156431
>You can go look.
Okay. This is the first review that turned up when I googled.
https://www.wired.com/2010/10/sonic-4-review/
>Review: Wonky Physics, Nasty Levels Ruin Sonic the Hedgehog 4
Sounds stellar.
>>566156431
>It's perfectly playable
Nigga come on.
https://insider-gaming.com/10-worst-2d-sonic-the-hedgehog-games-ranked/
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>>566103465
>"Nice. So, you in?"
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>>566156742
Reminder this artist is working on Gameoverse
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>>566157149
That review praises the graphics lmao. Also who the FUCK reads video game reviews on Wired. Mainstream video game journalists were praising that game and you know it.
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>>566154736
Even the training he does on his way t9 namek is framed in a way that emphasizes the zenkais he is getting over the training itself. It factors, but it isnt the point.
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>>566157450
>and you know it
I don't. You act like I wasn't around back then. Everyone knew that game was dogshit. EVERYONE. It wasn't a secret.
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>>566157023
Being serviceable isn't a good look for me.
I still got the portable versions on my phone, Sonic 4 still feels like a nightmare to play, even as someone who worships the classical Dimps Sonic games.

Fuck even the tranny that glazes the Dimps games struggles to keep a smile for Sonic 4, they know it's dogshit.
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>>566156243
I was there and the other anon is correct. People praised it at first but then people turned on it later.
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>>566157431
Wamu? That pic isn't by him, just a clone.
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>>566156489
Yes
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>>566156243
>Episode 2 rolled around to fix it
It was hardly fixed.
It had better gimmicks and more playablity, but all the previous issues were still there.
It still had an unfair score though, the game should be a point higher than Sonic 4 EP1
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>>566156716
Do black "people" really
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>>566157669
Yeah, maybe you weren't. Here's my search results
https://www.ign.com/articles/2010/10/08/sonic-the-hedgehog-4-episode-i-review
>8/10

https://gamingbolt.com/sonic-the-hedgehog-4-episode-1-reviewed
>7/10

https://guardianacorn.com/2022/03/23/standard-review-sonic-the-hedgehog-4-episode-1-ps3-360-wii-pc-ios-android-ouya/
>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 is a great example of a retro throwback done right.
>the only thing you need to do to be like the classics is to be similar to them while being fun to play. Yes there are some subtle differences between Sonic 4 and the original Genesis games, but that is what is notably great about it.

https://gamersnexus.net/games/444-sonic-4-episode-1-review
>The graphics are ten times superior to the 90's predecessor
>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 – Episode 1 is no different from this classic style of gameplay, and it does well not to stray far from that line etched so many years ago. It was this line that Sonic fans have been searching for. It was hidden well under the many iterations of previous Sonic games such as the 3D era, the Sonic racing games and the Sonic and Mario crossover games, but it was there to find. And find it they did.
(This guy then goes on to say the game is actually bad because the level design is too confusing for him and platformers should be left in the 90s)

https://www.gamesradar.com/sonic-the-hedgehog-4-episode-i-review/
>onic Team and DIMPS have done the impossible and managed to make this most critical of Sonic fans love a new Sonic game.
>So I'm going to plump for 'deserving'. And I mean that in two ways. It's deserving of your time and your money despite its length. But more importantly, it's deserving of the name 'Sonic The Hedgehog 4'. That was always going to be this game's biggest challenge, but it's succeeded with aplomb.

>>566157750
I'm not saying you should like this game. I'm saying normalfags are RETARDED and were praising the shit out of it when it came out.
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>>566158256
They redid the physics engine entirely after episode 1 and then let you play episode 1 with the new physics if you owned both games. I'm not saying they're perfect but at least it wasn't pic anymore >>566157149
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>>566155424
oosumi was screwing around the whole interview and immediately said he was joking afterwards. but of course sonazefags like cherrypicking out of context stuff to give themselves legitimacy, here is the full interveiw https://browniehideout.wordpress.com/2005/11/22/sonic-channel-staff-column-sonic-rush-developer-interview/
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>>566166898
Based Oosumi



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