#1282: Gold Roll EditionPrevious: >>565820468This general is for the discussion of original, fan made, or look-alike Mega Man games as well as original titles developed by Inti Creates.>/mmg/ newsMega Man Starforce Legacy Collection has released https://youtu.be/PTct687LRmQ Mega Man Dual Override announced for 2027 https://youtu.be/8i97QCOWSC4 Six Finalists have been chosen for Create-Your-RM Contest https://imgur.com/a/UROJnXWRockman EXE Phantom of Network PC Porthttps://github.com/StraDaMa/PoN_PCSonic Racing Crossworlds DLC out now https://youtu.be/Klc21C20h7k New oficial licensed smartwatch preorder announced, a new way to mega man 2>Fan game news:Mega Man Maker https://youtu.be/gGUED-D8Kls Mega Man 64https://github.com/MegaMan64Recomp/MegaMan64RecompiledMega Man DXtremehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9_ykoYqm44 >/inti/ news:Majogami out now, PS5 version releases on 5/28/2026 https://youtu.be/-j3Rl762aT4 Card-en-Ciel DLC out now https://youtu.be/rSDgP0yjIB0 + https://youtu.be/cMEuZH5eXoMKingdom's Return is out on all consoles and steam https://youtu.be/uOW6WmLpUkU-Steam & Switch demo out nowGunvolt Connect iX out now https://youtu.be/bLsJ-X9aX8o Gunvolt Chronicles Luminous Avenger iX 1+2 Dual Collection releasing for Switch 1&2, PS5 and PC on 7/9/2026 https://youtu.be/gvB2DzQ24Q4 Current ongoing 30th anniversary sale and shirts preorders>Other:Translations of Classic mangas on mangadexGigantic Roll is back on preorder>DiVE Linksrentry.org/xdaibu (game, emulators and other stuff)>Koikatsurentry.org/mmgintikk>Melt Stuffrentry.org/mmelt melt 2 its real>Game Downloadsrentry.org/mmglinksHas all MM games, MN9, romhacks, patches + BN cia files>Audiovisual Mediarentry.org/mmgintimediaContains:Cartoons, Anime, Comics, Manga and other printed media - Music Playlists and albums
>>566164937
>>566164937Cute OP.
ZEDΩ>ルクシア。内転…彼は運命の改変を自分自身に行ったってことかい?Luxia... turned inward? Do you mean he altered his own destiny?Luxia>「そ。彼は避けられない破滅を”やり直し”という手段で回避したの。」>「見えなかった?身体やチカラは生まれたての頃まで巻き戻ってたわよ彼。」"Exactly. He averted inevitable doom by means of a 'reset.'""Didn't you see it? His body and powers had been rewound all the way back to the moment of his birth."ZEDΩ>そうすると、ガンヴォルトはもう…In that case, then Gunvolt is already...Luxia>「どうしているか、までは流石に判らないけど…何処か平穏に暮らせる場所に行き着いていると良いわね。」"I can't say for certain exactly *how* he's doing... but I hope he’s found his way to a place where he can live in peace."ZEDΩ (thinking)>鎖環(ギブス)の巫女…きりんは彼に何が起こったのか知っているのだろうか?The Shrine Maiden of the *Gibs*... I wonder if Kirin knows what became of him?It's even less ambiguous in the Jap script. So what contrivances will INTI use to avoid any of the old fan favorite characters showing up and generate the most fan outrage this time? >Killed off-screen >never born in this altered timeline >the adventure takes Gunvolt to a place where none of them are around >INTI pretends they're not there and they show up in a secret joke endingWhat's your pick?
>>5661690691 or 4. I'd say the 5th instead>inti goes bankrupt and no GV4 is made
>>5661690691 if Tsuda wrests control back.
>>566169069Just never relevant so not brought up again.
>>566164937>didn't add this to the fan game sectionONE JOBhttps://youtu.be/X2OGaEEe3Bc
>>566169069>generate the most fan outrageNobody cares dude
>>566169069He gets birthed into iX3 as Copen and Kohaku's lovechild.
https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/20xxpo/20xxpo-a-mega-man-fan-festival
>>566169704That'd be hard to write around, and Tai is a setting/lore autist, so dunno. Nova and Joule are big deals and exist in Gunvolt's backyard. You can write Zonda and Eden out, because there are a million other things they can be occupied with, they're far away, and their position is precarious. You can't do that with Sumeragi.>what if Gunvolt isn't in JapanThen you'd flip that, and instead have to explain why Zonda isn't poking GV's cheek begging him to join Eden.
>expecting rollfag not to fuck up
>>56616988690% of people skim or skip dialogue in these games. Who but children and the mentally unwell actually cares about this drivel?
>>566170768Exactly, just never brought up again. Like QUILL and how he killed Asimov.
>>566171073But that was brought up again in the very next game and even led to a whole alternate timeline spinoff.
>>566171073QUILL, the organization, is actually brought up in GV2 and GV3, but Moniqa and Xeno were minor characters like Quinn. I don't like that they were completely ignored, but you can do it. A character like Elise, Merak, or Gibril can be ignored. You can't do that with important characters like Nova or Asimov.
>>566164937didn't add Mega Man W
>>566171073Asimov's death comes up in GV2 and GV3. It's a huge plot point in GV3 as eating Asimov's spirits was one of the things that screwed GV up, and you can battle Asimov again in a bonus fight.
>>566171321And they never show up again so who cares?
>>566171730brave and BOLD
>>566171683You did because you brought it up.
>>566171683Asimov shows up in more games than he doesn't. He's the most reoccurring antagonist.
>>566172329He's actually tied with all forms of Zonda, I believe.
>>566172496Zonda's in two games, three if you count the ghostly illusion. I don't know if the ghostly illusions are the same, but they're close enough. When you fight Asimov, however, it's the actual guy every time, just at different stages of his life.Secondly, I would bet money on fake Zonda being a Septima projection, like Lumen, so I don't really count it and real Zonda as the same character.
>>566173509You forgot Mighty Gunvolt.
>>566173509>Secondly, I would bet money on fake Zonda being a Septima projection, like Lumen, so I don't really count it and real Zonda as the same character.What's the schizo lore behind this?
>>566173815Because the mirror copies you fight aren't her actual body? It's not schizo at all. It's how they literally work.
>>566173815The projections act independently of her in GV2 and the spinoffs. There's also inference from her and the projections' behavior. Real Zonda is not a good manipulator or actor, and she's naive, childish, and weird around people she trusts. Sometimes, the other Eden members call her crazy to her face. She convinces people by opening her heart to them, or appealing to Tenjian. I don't buy her being able to swap between such different personalities on the fly. Her Septima theme is turning dreams into reality, and she says that it's her Septima that allows her to be a master infiltrator, not her skills.
>>566175162>appealing to TenjianThe last scene in the audio drama where she's pleading with Tenjian over who should infiltrate Sumeragi, and they conclude the argument with him saying "...Pantera..." and her responding with "...please..." got to me as an older brother. I'm still pissed the English script had Zonda's fake her love for Tenjian. In the end, it was merely a tool she was using to manipulate him for her own ascension to godhood. It destroyed so much of the game's narratives and themes.
>>566177634Am I the only one who preferred 8-4 Zonda over the original? She's so vile and nefarious. You don't get villains like that often, especially when they look like her. The original Zonda isn't as interesting. She's just a subversion of a magical girl played for tragedy.
>>566164937Is this pic new?
I've been dead for over a month, how was the Star Force collection? Did the Sonia and Luna fags do anything?Also how was Kingdom's Return?
>>566178581Yes >>566091756
Is there any reason to grab the official legacy collections vs the the collection link in OP? do they have any extra features or better translations or something?
>>566178732Star Force collection was good, we had the waifu wars for a bit but it's a stalemate as usualKingdom's Return was meh/okay. It's really short and simple
>>566178732SF is good.The war is on ceasefire between the moon and the sky/sun.Boku no Kingdom was underwhelming.
>>566178770Nice, I like this guy's art but it's hard to keep track of what he does sometimes.
>>566178110>Am I the only one who preferred 8-4 Zonda over the original?Yes. It lacks a lot of complexity. And the tragedy factor is what makes her stick as a character. She's an antivillain who is by nature a good person. It wouldn't take much of a leap to get on team good. Even with Tenjian as a brother and surrounded by adept supremacists, and seeing horrific death and oppression, she still doesn't actually hate nonadepts.Fresh Zonda and Tenjian art, by the way.>>566178581Yes>>566178732>Also how was Kingdom's Return?Mediocre, but the only people who were disappointed were willfully blinding themselves. It reuses half of its assets from an older game, and can be beat in 5 hours.
>>566178732Starforce goodKingdom bad
>>566178776Giving your money to our lord and savior Capcom.
>>566178732>Did the Sonia and Luna fags do anything?That's a funny thing to ask for someone who was "dead for over a month", shouldn't you have been more interested in the games themselves?
>>566179298Evil Zonda works better for the edgy tone of Gunvolt.
>>566179765AYO IS THIS FROM THE GUNVOLT ARTIST WHO I FORGOT THE NAME OF ToT
>>566180295We already had that with Asimov in 1 and Copen in 2. Zonda was supposed to be the Nova of 2 as the anti villain with good intentions but questionable methods.And Copen as the hyper racist who wanted nothing but the blood of the race that wasn't his.
>>566179765I never said I'd buy the collections
>>566173528>Pallette slowly reaches her backpack
>>566167269I think that he makes Lev bigger each year.
>>566180902People do tend to get worse over time.
>>566180574Nova had a point, but he was also a jerk with a massive inferiority complex which going off of the side stories, he was trying to work through. They didn't even give you that with Zonda. Her negative personality traits aren't hateable, just sad.
>>566178776Which legacy collection? Starforce or Megaman in general?
>>566178972Dont worry anonI dont draw very often
test
>>566171683Same can be said about RiCO and there's a lot of people who still care.
>>566181820Go to bed RiCO, Pureya-san is not here.
>>566179298>Fresh Zonda and Tenjian art, by the way.Last four pieces of GV art on pixiv have been tagged with Zonda. Stop being so greedy.
>>566183562Precure bros...
>>566183562>>566185816
>>566185816>completely unrelated character is the reason for all the new Zonda content out of the blueGunvolt fans are so retarded
>>566188608It is.
One more week until KR DLC! Get HYPED bros!!!
>>566188608Will this be at Wonfes by any chance?
>>566190857You like it?
>>566191026Yes. How do I get one?
>>566190074So much hype.
>>566191026Uploaded the low quality image.
>>566191295Bloomers>>566191201I think it was a proof of concept like the other Gunvolt muse figures shown this year. I don't know if it's for sale.
>>566191534Pits.
>>566191768
>>566191534As nice as it is I'm pretty sure they don't sell to gaijins so I'll have to continue my empty Pantera-less life.
>>566191201https://x.com/B5Fxxp5A/status/20429405825832432053D printing
>>566192837Cool. Wish they'd just make figures.
>>566192938They can't even make a good game anymore.
>>566190074I'd be if it was actual new characters or even a hard mode. It's an okay game but there's so little to do.
For all of /zpg/, why her? Why not Roll or Call? Why not one of your other Gunvolt girls like the butterfly? Why do you pick the evil weirdo who you killed at the end of her game and hasn't been relevant for 10 years? Do you like hurting girls or something?
>>566194151>forgot all about how to make a good game>celebrates 30th anni with on demand t shirts and stickersHappy 30 years, bros...Hopefully many more to come... ...
>>566194151That's all the more reason for them to get into the merch angle, really. You don't need to make good games or even any games at all as long as there are some suckers out there buying your merch
Bunny Ancie figure pre-orders open in 5 hours, trust the plan.
>>566157558>Also Mr Juan Voltios himself is almost entirely incapable how showing empathy.You forget who raised him and why.
>>566197121>only boss battle in GV3 where Kirin won't banter back or debate him>doesn't say a word to him during the fightShe really wanted to kill him.>>566194747Tragic main villainess, please understand.
If Roll were playable, would you pick her?
>>566197875Playable Roll was the only reason why I gave a damn about X dive.
Why this general only posts brats showing their butts?
Probably because all you ever post is memes and porn
>>566197875Sure why not What would be her play style Powered up again or something completely different
>when you realize that the glow lights make it look like she's wearing panties with a bowINTI are a bunch of pervs
*were
>>566196125Ancie is only for Neon. No, really, if he stops looking at her for more than a day she will die.
>>566200742And it was even more pronounced in the previous drafts.
>>566185816>>566188608>>566188885I know that there is definitely a connection, because when I click on a Zonda picture in pixiv, half my the recommendations in the "related work" section are Luluka. I don't even look up PreCure on pixiv. pixiv is not like google. They don't associate images based off of image similarity, but search history and artist history association. So if people who look up Zonda are also looking up Luluka at an increased rate, and artist who draw Zonda are also drawing a lot of Luluka, Zonda becomes associated with Luluka and Luluka becomes increasingly "related" to Zonda and populates her recommendations under her images.
>>566202620I recognize that style. That picture is done by someone who's drawn a Zonda before, right?
>>566202837It looks familiar.
>>566173736This artist is so mindbroken over ai
>>566200420Zero Roll
>>566179765Oh shit. He's bailing Inti for Capslop
ero roll
>>566203849Everyone likes Morrigan.
>>566194747>Do you like hurting girls or something?Ohoho, that got me thinking, did INTI actually go *there*I checked the final boss pain animations (the anims they get when you deplete a third of their health). Some bosses react with anger, others shock, and some fear. Furthermore, bosses will have different hurt timings and invincibility frames to characterize them. Generally, girls have longer pain animations than guys, and younger characters have longer pain animations than older ones.Nova doesn't have one in the first game, though he still gets invincibility frames and voices his displeasure. I guess he's just built differently. He does get one in the third game where he screams and starts panting as he clutches his side, indicating he can't hold all the power of the Azure Striker. He does not have pain anims in his second phase, however. ZED has a quick one where he shouts in shock, and then brushes it off like it's nothing. He's right back to smirking well before the invincibility frames are over, because that's the type of person he is. Asimov gets a badass one where he falls to one knee and then transitions it to an attack. Zonda gets a longer one where she curls in on herself. She doesn't scream out like ZED and Nova do, but tries to hold it in. I think it's just to make you feel bad. There is no ryona appeal to it. INTI dodge a bullet there.
>>566208042What no games does to a faggot. Good on you though, man. This is the sort of autistic schizo analysis generals are built on.
>>566208042Reminder that the pink glowy stuff coming out of her is meant to be her septimosome, which is contained in an adept's blood, meaning that she's bleeding a ton.
quick, decipher the secret message from the latest intiversary post
>>566209798I like Pragmata too, but it's verboten on /mmg/.
>>566164937More chubby roll i'm begging you...
>>566209798There's a lightning bolt in the icon, obviously they're making a Harry Potter game.
>>566164937I liked this one more.
>>566210391Scholars of Elfiliabros, our time is now!
>>566209259Good.
>>566210391I'm as schizo as anyone else here, but it's just for nostalgia. It doesn't predict anything.
>>566208042Looks like a crying animation. The other characters don't get the same shoulder shaking like Zonda does, it's more like exaggerated body tremors, and it doesn't last as long. Zonda had an overprotective older brother, and she fights with projections, so she's probably not used to getting kicked, cut up, electrocuted, and taking pain like that.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=524w_10P8oAnow x1 remade as x4
>>566212907Good
>>566209798I think that I got it.>マルちゃんの麺を送ってくれ!お腹ペコペコなんだ!
>>566181695general
>>566209798
>>566178776every collection has some additional stuffclassic has the random challenges and rewind IIRCx has a whole additional mode where you can fight bosses from across the seriesz/zx has additional checkpoints and speedrunning challenge modes. also bonus cardsBN also has bonus cards and some QoL/cheating modes and content that was never in English beforeSF also has bonus cards and some QoL/cheating modes and you can buy luna and sonia for $2.99also gallery, music, and achievements if you care
>>566209798>Yohane more important than nearly all of Inti's latest releasesThey want the good idols back
>>566216096For Classic and X just emulate the roms.Zero, BN and Starforce add content that was either removed in old releases or is a hassle to deal with in emulator like e-reader cards or online trading/battling so their collections are the definitive way to play them.
>>566200742she does
>>566217597>what the kudomaxing brain of gunvolt looks like in GV3
>>566218648Mytyl needs to be there to lower the lock to nearly nothing, but yes.
>>566164937what a sexy looking Roll
>>566171006how's the collection
>>566210180
>>566217597Zonda ain't beating the Temu Luluka allegations with that getup.
>>566219984Yeehaw.
>>566219118It's good
>>566216634>>566217085Got it, thanks
not a day goes by where i don't wish that MM8BDM was a full-on doom campaign with secrets and cannon fodder enemies instead of just keiji inafune's unreal tournament
>>566222383How would you even do that with the tech of that time?
>>566210407Do you have more Rolls from that drawfag?
>>566223818in a similar way SRB2 did it, i guessand i'm not talking the version they released in 2010, i'm talking with all the assets and code they've got now
>>566219787Kissing every inch of that belly.
>>566219984Megaman is living luxuriously
>>566222383For how hard it goes by the end it's indeed a shame that it's just a tournament arc. Seems like a tech demo that got out of hand. In a very good way, mind you, but still.
>>566216140Shallas
Is iX2 worth $10.00?
>>566228889I'd say so.
>>566228889There's the collection coming out soon, which may or may not be better. Otherwise, yeah it's fine for that much.
>>566209798Half the comments to that are asking about Gunvolt 4 or saying they love INTI because of Gunvolt. Next most commented game is Megaman Zero. Then a few GalGun petitioners and one guy asking for a Majogami sequel. No iX comments at all. That game has like no hype.
>>566232545
>>566232694Yes, besides Roro wearing the adept modest wedding dress
>>566232545I am waiting for iX3.I just prefer to keep it in here.
>>566232545iX is Gunvolt to everyone except Inti themselves. No one else actually considers that to be a separate IP.
>>566232545iX is Gunvolt. >and one guy asking for a Majogami sequelGood man.
I miss these simple facial animations.
How do adept mafias even exist when Asimov mindcontrols/brainwashes everyone? How do criminals like Rebellio come into being?
>>566236520The Butterfly Effect's control is dogshit. All it does is make people not care about minos. Actual mind control or brainwashing is impossible.
>>566236520Asimov doesn't give a shit about some petty crime squabbles. All he cares about is his massive hard-on for his King & Queen pieces leading Adepts.
GV1 and GV2 have the most evil villain cast, but everyone felt the worst about killing them. They're just that charismatic and sympathetic.
>>566236520The mind control ended up being a +1 charisma check. Also Rebelio became a criminal because he didn't kiss the ring of the regime once. Ironically, if Asimov wasn't holding his parents hostage, he would have killed Isola himself and joined Copen.
>>566237661As light in tone as GV3 is, Asimov's dialogue with GV and Kirin was some fucked up shit. I was not expecting Asimov telling GV how he'd forcibly take his crush as his Queen, then butterfly effect her after he was done. Father figure NTR into body mutilation was so discordant with the rest of GV3. The best part was how Kirin was speechless. She didn't say a single word the entire fight. It was like she was in shock from all the vile shit Asimov was spewing.
>>566180574>when you realize Pantera was less racist than Acura
based on testing offline we're going to start using savestates on turns
>>566208042Looks more to me like she's clutching her fists in frustration.
>>566208042looks like she's trying to super saiyan than anything
>>566244269>>566243970Her pain and phase transition lines aren't frustration:https://youtu.be/LKCNCk9cz2I?t=63Sounds more like she's trying to motivate herself because she's getting torn up.
>>566244696>because she's getting torn upGetting the soul stuck on a buff you stole outright rejecting your existence would do that.
>>566208042>the light of the oppressed>the last hope for man>carrying on the hopes and dreams of all whom yearn to breathe free>bleeding and trying not to cry as GV sings jpop acapella offbeat all happy about it Thanks I hate it.
>>566247534>light of the oppressed>but oppresses another
>>566247989>you can't do genocide against anime anymore>aieee! I'm being oppressed save me Gunvolt!
>>566248218And save did Gunvolt do
In GV4 not even Cyan is gonna show up.
>>566247989Oppresed and amazon mating pressed.
>>566247989To be fair, GV said he was acting in the interests of adepts while killing scores of other adepts and committing terrorism across Japan that hit hundreds of noncombatants like Mytyl in the service of a crazy white haired racist, and people don't have a problem with that. They all suck in different ways, but Zonda's hypocrisy is small in comparison to many other characters. The thing that makes her bad is the attempted genocide.
>Mega Man is left out of the group again So much for being the company's former mascot
>>566264812Leon is the company mascot now.>always wanted to be a Leon S. Kennedy>turned into a James Sunderland instead
>>566243391What happened? Did the translation crash the game constantly?
Did you all enjoy the 30th anniversary?
>>566264812Did you notice Diana wearing a blue bomber jacket? I thought that was interesting.
>>566264812barefooToT
Why does she walk around barefoot
>>566282775Didn't find the boot upgrade
I think Capcom actually has no idea what to do with the IP anymore. They do these PR stunts genuinely thinking the fans will find them amusing when all they really want are more games. It's like the Bad Boxart Mega Man over a decade ago.
>>566265368Did you forget how he beat Ultimate Armor X in Teppen?
>>566287627Quoting Asimov's 3 Laws at him?
>>566207313Liked. Lilith is the new shining star of Darkstalkers.
>>566288909[no citation]
>>566250389
>>566290801This girl is irresistible for all adept men.And several women.
>>566294153Except for the one she actually gives a shit about.
>>566237963Why are snake women always so hot, without exception? Are they some kind of ancient fertility symbol?
>>566298743Snakes are associated with femme fatales in East Asia.
>>566265398no just infinite damons
>>566300849>Infinite damonsWe can finally pay our debt...
>>566300849>infinite fundsI fail to see the issue
>>566289467Look up who won the last Darkstalkers EVO.
>>566302013>>566302165some fuck wants to challenge gaioh at lv99
>>566298743Are you a refugee from the defunt X com general perhaps?
>>566303960How is that relevant to this thread?
>>566304127trust autistic moon wife
>>566298743The snake girl is the evil monster girl in most stores (yes even Monster Musume) so of course the people here would pick it over the other species of monstergirls that outclass them like catgirls, sucubusses, dragongirls and of course goblin girl.
>>566304127Kittan can tank that
>>566304726Is there a succubus themed adept?
>>566305306The one nobody liked from 3.
>>566305306Yes, and she's one of the most powerful characters in Gunvolt, in fact.>>566305726She's more like a wasp.
>>566283741Too bad we'll have to wait until after DO to see what truly happens with the series next.2027 will be them advertising it until for a few months until release, then some more PR memes like this and then when it all settles down, silence for months...
>>566305306>temptation and dreams motif>one of the more demonic looking transformations>embodies sin of lust
>>566305792>She's more like a wasp.That one is from iX2, and tecnically not an adept.
>>566306187They're both bugs. Look past her sex obsession, and she has this queen bee vibe with the way she treats others. Even the queen bee stuff makes sense with sex, as all they do is put out babies, and for Sistina, it's the baby making that she's obsessed about, not that actual sex.
>>566306129Succubi could also swap between genders to beguile people in mythology. So Zonda checks as the closest to being a succubus themed adept.
>>566171006Me
>>566209259It's cool that INTI can still depict M level brutality against young characters and still get a T rating since it's layered in so much lore nonsense. GV1 characters outright had blood popping out of them and exploded in blood, but because it was glowy, they avoided the M.
>>566307772Technicolor blood for the sake of ratings is nothing new.
>>566307772It's black in the current international versions, so they probably needed to change it. It's still blood, and everyone can tell.
>>566308320Wouldn't be the first time.
>>566265368Oh boy.
I was reading the dev notes for Asimov. I think they based him off of X-Men. >His tall stature and sturdy build convey the image of a "reliable leader," while the sunglasses suggest a side of him that "never reveals his own will." I had in mind “that” American comic hero who’s the leader of a group of oppressed people with superpowers. By the way, the sunglasses are bulletproof military-grade. They were talking about the sunglasses, so I'm guessing Cyclops? How cool.
>>566304726Snake good, simple as.Fun fact about Quetzalcoatl, at least according to myth, he can just change forms between human and giant feathered serpent like a super powerful Nahual.Here's the fate version because she cute.
>>566311545I like the Kobayashi version more.
>>566236707>>566238526I think it's hilarious that Asimov had to use the Muse to suppress his adepts' populace natural empathy towards the minos, so his genocide could happen, and he still had adepts risking their lives to get Lola memorabilia or give aid to minos.Meanwhile, when the minos were dominant, minos parents were gung-ho about beating their own adept newborns to death with rocks support for death camps was coming from the bottom up.
>>566318260>Meanwhile, when the minos were dominant, minos parents were gung-ho about beating their own adept newborns to death with rocks support for death camps was coming from the bottom up.That's probably not true.
>>566318260It's because nonadepts are non-threats to adepts. Give an adept and nonadept the same gear, and the nonadept is toast 9/10 times. It becomes even more grossly tilted if the adept has a strong septima, meaning they can probably jump out of buildings and dodge or shrug off bullets.Meanwhile, an adept is a grave threat to a nonadept. Even an adept child might be able to kick the ass of a healthy nonadept adult. And that's all before Septima even starts coming into play.
>>566318540Parents killing or abandoning their adept children was common in China, and the government wouldn't even charge you for murder when they did.
>>566318993China is one of the worst places to be an adept in Gunvolt. The norm would be more like France or Russia, where mobs of witch hunters burn your family at the stake.
>>566319152>hold Elise's hands>get beaten by a hate mob
>>566319591Was it worth it?
>>566318993Citation needed, and China isn't the world. >>566319152Stop extrapolating the worst incidences we know about to be the norm.
>>566319591Adept fucking shits and adept sympathizer shits get the Shillelagh
>>566320668>Stop extrapolating the worst incidences we know about to be the normAcura was added as a playable character to "show the non-adept perspective" and he's a bloodthirsty maniac that wants to torture adepts to death to purify the world from them.The "norm" is so pure fucking evil that Sumeragi's Japan is the most peaceful nation on earth for adepts and they mass produced weapons that drain adept life to run.
>>566321248Cope is not the norm, jesus fucking christ, stop taking that statement to mean something it doesn't.
>>566320209For Elise? Absolutely.
>>566321374>we added Don Cope to show how minos think>but Cope isn't actually how minos think
>>566321668>maybe if I greentext this to say something else it'll sound like I'm right!
>>566322312>they didn't mean what they said because they just didn't okayJust like the skin, right?
>>566322841You're trying too hard to force a discussion.
>>566322841They didn't mean what you say they said because they didn't say what you say they said. >Just like the skin, right?You're hilariously off the mark.
>>566323156>they said the round shape goes in the round hole>no it actually goes with the triangles It's not much of a discussion.
>>566323292You're trying to stir up the skin discourse again.
if they don't know what to do with the series anymore they shouldn't have gone beyond Classic.
What the hell? Justice Rage Nova is actually cute. I like how Jota is both his dad and biggest fanatic. One second it's "Nova is God" and the next it's giving life lessons to the boy.>Nova: Mm... Ahh... Jota...>Jota: Are you awake?>Nova: My apologies. I must have dozed off. Our company cars very comfortable... Or perhaps... it's the skill of the driver?>Jota: You looked like you were having a nightmare.>Nova: Ah... Just dreaming of the past again... Please don't be concerned about it. More importantly... it looks like we won't be able to take the car any further.>Jota: Yes. Driver—this is the spot. Pull over here.---------->Shiden: Thank you for your trouble... I'll call for you again when we're ready to head back.>Nova: This area… it’s more desolate than I imagined it’d be. Is this the work of those teams as well?>Jota: These are likely the scars of past turf wars. They make no attempt to grasp the true meaning of the power they've been blessed with, instead spending their days in aimless, savage acts... How deplorable... I would dearly love to make them drink a draught made from the very dirt beneath your fingernails, Nova. >Nova: Hah. Jota, you're skilled at flattering people. I’m not that important.>Jota: You should take a lesson from all of this. Looking upon such scenes reinforces the significance of the ideals you aim for... Indeed, it seems we must hasten our plans...>Nova: An ideal built upon *that* isn't a pretty thing... The Diva Project is merely the best possible course of action—a compromise—given our current limitations. If we were talking about a *true* ideal... surely it would be a solution where no one gets hurt. But... such a thing is utopian.>Jota: Did I say something too presumptuous?>Nova: No... I’m glad to have someone like you by my side. If he--if Viper--is as understanding as you, that'd be great.
>>566324175But that means no BN.
>>566318260>Meanwhile, when the minos were dominant, minos parents were gung-ho about beating their own adept newborns to death with rocks support for death camps was coming from the bottom up.You see roasties IRL trying to ban anime because they feel treatened by some drawings, could you imagine those when said drawing came to life and aimed to marry the bottom 40% of the population that they hate the most?
>>566324309People all call him Copy-X, but he's closer to being X with some of Copy-X's bad traits. Nova would never childishly lash out at weaker people like Copy-X does when frustrated. It's really just GV who brings out his bad side, and that's because of SFIT trauma and seeing GV as a murder loving anarchist.
>>566319152Yes, followed by the United States, due to their long and proud history of hating anything anime related.>>566321248You undersell and oversell Copen. He didn't see killing them as something so grandiose as say curing canser, he saw it more as say culling the grass, a hassle and a thankless job that someone has to do. But as seen in this general, paying a wetback to do it isn't an option this time. Not when they could find a snake among the grass they were supposed to cull and try to marry it.
>canser
>>566324670>Even without Zonda, there's a lot of chinese propaganda to go around
>>566319591She'll probably bring you back. Dunno if as a zombie or intact, though.
>>566324175But they do. More comics! More cameos! More cartoons! More overpriced plastic!Games? Who needs that!?
>>566327351Now let me tell you about Inti's 30th anniversary merchandise sale
>Eden in a nutshell
>>566327690At least he got a T shirt. That's more than what people like Rayman can say.
>Xiao: [Teseo dies] Nice one, GV.>Xiao: I couldn’t understand what he was saying, but I’m glad he's dead, GV>Xiao: Remember what they did to Joule, GV. Don't go soft now. >Xiao: You can't reason with them GV, they’re the enemy. And they hurt Joule…>Xiao: Trou... ...an't get through... ...ind of interfer... Rescu...Joule...Bro, this Chinese twink is coming off as really fishy.
>>566328124And what does that have to do with anything?
>>566327865To be fair, Zonda did volunteer herself for the Sumeragi mission because she was concerned for the others' safety.
>>566328327How many projections did Zonda go through while banging her way up the corporate ladder?
>>566326337>He didn't see killing them as something so grandiose as say curing canser, he saw it more as say culling the grass, a hassle and a thankless job that someone has to do.>I just think back to the conversation between Tenjian and Copen, where Tenjian realizes their similarities as brothers, and empathizes with Copen's love for Mytyl. In response, Copen tells Tenjian that he's a fake human with a fake life and a fake love, who he will kill, and then he will find and torture his fake sister before sending her to hell to join him.
>>566328306A T shirt is still more than what most got for their 30th anniversary.
>>566326337>followed by the United States, due to their long and proud history of hating anything anime related>still a bigger crowd of inti fans there
From the discussion in prior thread, it seems like the only people who use terms that group adepts and nonadepts as one people are Gunvolt, Quinn, Zonda, Desna, and rarely Xiao. Gunvolt does it the most by far. Xiao does it twice, but usually, he will say "adepts and nonadepts" when referring to "everyone" rather than just "people." This is common among most GV characters, because mentally, they see the two groups as separate, even when they are proponents of coexistence. Zonda uses the inclusive terms surprisingly often for the leader of an adept supremacist group. She won't say adepts and nonadepts, she'll just say people when applicable. Desna doesn't distinguish at all; everyone is just "people" to her. Just subtle storytelling and characterization you don't expect from an anime game that gets lost in translation. So what do you think?
>>566330874I don't know. I don't autistically analyze dumb anime games like you do. I just play game and have fun.
>>566330874Reminds me of the reploid/human deal in ZX.
>>566332217Very much so.
>>566324175No, it's worth us getting what we got.
Do you like what you see in the mirror?
>>566337994Is upper right supposed to represent a canon scene, or just something the fanartist made up?
I won. Kneel, bow to your King.
Who are you
(((They))) know who I am. I will let them tell you the story of their humiliating defeat.
no I'm me
>>566339905Who are you?>>566340380Who are they?
The only type of pokemon posting I approve of is when sexy girls are being posted
>>566339002It's from the final scene of Eden's Party.
>>566330874It means Pantera was lying when she said her love was only for septimals.
So...I was thinking something... imagine that Inti were to make a "design a boss adept" for the next game. How would they go about it? Do it like Megaman and give the people a frame to work with or just give them the general idea of what the septima should do?
>>566343340Homestuck had a kickstarter, where people who dropped 1000bux would get their fantrolls added to the comic. They were alive for two panels before getting murdered.I imagine something similar would happen, with inti.
>>566343175Or Zonda is just a liar period.
>>566343340You get nothing.
>>566343340I think you’d have to give a framework. Otherwise it’s just “design an anime guy,” and that’s ridiculously broad.>>566343517That’s really mean-spirted.
>>566343340Imagine if the frame for the contest is (little girl)
>>566343940>That's really mean-spiritedyeahalso it was 10,000(I am not directly saving homestuck pictures onto my computer, but this screencap stitches all the relevant information together)
>>566343340I don't think Inti's mess of development could handle leaving something like a character boss in hands of the audience.That being said they might be way more receptive than Capcom of a female winner and a sexy one at that.
What even was Homestuck? I only keep hearing that it is the origin of all internet autism...that is not related to Sonic.
>>566342451Can't see the dead inside emotionless loli ever crying.
>>566343940I know. Release a book. Where you can just randomly generate an adept and their combat forms and techniques as well as what anime archetype they are. Yes I am saying just license MAID. No rules for anything though, it's just there so you randomly get a loli with bardiche with a summoned eagle mount or whatever.
>>566344446mspaint comic web series that got really popular. things only got more autistic when they introduced the trolls, and people started to make trollsonas, etc.
>>566343850>Most people just submit Xiao memes
>>566344495The one you meet in GV2 had been undercover at Sumeragi for at least over 7 months.
>>566343175She wants to love nonadepts, but doesn't think it's possible for them to return the love of adepts as a group. Ergo, eradication.
>>566344852>Pantera treats her Sumeragi underlings like people>they're fanatically loyal to her as a result Just how shitty are the other guys to work for?
>>566345425Then I will correct that misconception.>eradicationNah.
How is this series still getting such good-ass art? Man.
>>566345587It's partly that. It's mostly because her projections are extremely hot. Her fake form and Desna are the two most attractive characters in Gunvolt. We're talking so hot people insta fall for them and worship them.
>>566346045Because it's the best series of them all.
>>566346248Meanwhile here people go gaga for Elise and Gerbil instead. We're kinda weird when you think about it.
>>566346513This place has been /zpg/ for years now. It was dying down, and then Shadow Arcana broke into the mainstream, and the fire blazed back. The Elisefags aren't posting as often. I've seen more Desnaposting than Eliseposting recently. You still see Gerbil, but she is ancillary to Zonda, like an accessory.
>>566346774>The Elisefags aren't posting as often. I've seen more Desnaposting than Eliseposting recently.Guilty as charged. I do feel bad about it, at least. Life’s just too depressing lately.
>>566348231You haven't been getting a steady trickle of new art like Zondafags have either.
>>566348887Also true. And I’m not good enough at finding more obscure art to keep things even a little fresh.
It also doesn't do good to overly share of [character] and make her become less cherished as a result.
>>566324309In Nova's drama CD, Nova hears Gunvolt's real name from one of the scientists. If they ever become friends, what are the chances Nova will tell him it?
>>566349347It gets muffled because the scientist walks away. Nova doesn't know it. Somebody at Sumeragi does, but I don't know if Gunvolt cares enough to find out.
>>566349347>It's Geevee
>>566349347Probably something MegaMan or Isaac Asimov related.
>>566346513Elise, Gibril and Grazie. The 3 supposed uggos.
>>566349867Grazie is nice and chill, Gibraltar is fucking adorable, and Elise activates my almonds.
To celeberate the 30th Anniversary of Inti Creates, we're melting The 2nd Super Robot Wars Z: Ruin Chapter.https://parsec.gg/g/38gXmTiAVEvCVv85P6Krz86iKwm/wmclfadb/Expect bugs/crashes, numerous untranslated things, numerous incorrectly translated things, and a new wave of bugs from a new way of rendering text.Starting at XX:00
>>566349317I think I only seen that here once. When we a weekly Gartic Phone melt on sundays. The Pandora anon always added Pandora to his chain so everyone ended up tired of her by the 3rd week.Most seen character after her was Ratty by the way.
>>566349975Girbil is made for full nelsons and/or being bent over any furnite that's just tall enough so that her feet can reach the floor. And she knows it.
>>566349612If I was Geevs, I would probably care a lot. Gunvolt is the name given to me by Sumeragi and Asimov. Sure, I've taken it and made it my "own," but at the end of the day, that's cope. Gunvolt was given to me by my worst enemies because they saw me as a tool, not a person. But I'm not Gunvolt. He's probably more comfortable seeing himself as a gun more than a person for the stuff he does. And GV would be afraid of the pain he'd uncover if he went sniffing into his past. That's probably why GV thinks Mytyl's fate is a happy one.
>>566350009What could possibly go wrong
>>566324309Little Nova crying and screaming "I'll be the Azure Striker" and "please don't abandon me" as the scientists talk about how awesome GV was is pretty sad stuff. These guys were torturing him, but he's so starved for human contact that he still wants their attention. GV characters are complex and multifaceted, and then you kill them in game like they're mooks. They only get to show one little piece of their character, usually the most negative aspect, before GV shreds them.
>>566351215>GV characters are complex and multifacetedlol, no they aren't. no anime character exists that is complex or multiplexing
>>566351215That what gives Gunvolt it's uniqueness. I wish we got more of that.
>>566349867But Gibril was considered cute in Eden's Party.
>>566349867>>566349975I don't really care about Grazie.Both Gerbil and Elise activate my protective instincts something fierce. I want them to be and feel safe, especially the latter. I also really like Elise's built-in gap moe and drama potential with Evilise, there's a lot to play with there. Don't much care for Crazy Elise, though. Gerbil, for her part, keeps making me picture that "it's not your fault" scene from Good Will Hunting, which is...more than a little odd.
>>566351963Gerbil also has that tiny angry creature energy, and I like that a lot. She's cute and would probably hate being called that, which makes her cuter.
>>566349867>>566351963>considered to be cute by the very high standards of the G7>was upper class before life went to shit>only looks lesser because they have Desna (bombshell) or Zonda (uber cute and will grow into bombshell)>picked for Lumen cosplay based off cuteness>is actually very popular online because she is seen as cute (does not like this)>/mmg/+/inti/ says she's an uggoI don't get you guys.
>>566349867>>566352779Not to mention that Gunvolt thinks she's cute as well. So yeah, she might not be the cutest, but she's still cute.
Why are Eden the most popular Gunvolt baddie group in the fanbase?
>>566353260Likeable "villains" who's main goal was freedom for the oppressed.
>>566353260They're funny, have excellent chemistry, the best backstories, best designs, and many of them have huge gap moe appeal.
>>566353753I like Gauri because what he's saying is clearly not what the subtitles fucking say.>Gauri in ze house!>"I am Gauri master of disaster"
>>566353260GV1 and GV2 characters are far better than the later games casts. You could tell INTI really worked these characters. As for GV1 vs GV2, they're close, but GV2 villains are more likable and have a web of relationships. GV1 characters are individually complex, but a lot of them are assholes in some way, and they don't really come together as a team. Most of them hate each other. Merak backstabs Elise at the end of her story, for instance. He even punches and stomps on her after restraining her, because he's a shitbag. Nova is probably the most likable of the GV1 baddies, followed by Elise and Jota, but those two unfortunately don't have a lot going on. Most importantly, GV2 has 3 cute girls to GV1's 1 cute girl, and they all have tragic backstories that make you want to hug them.>>5663539078-4 man.
>>566350009https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3nySSXeFfg
>>566353260
>>566264812Megaman is irrelevant
>>566356951Now that Pragmata has become a hit, probably.
She's so happy she's double musing.
>>738431281Not sure if this anon from /v/ is here, but if you are, fuck you. Gunvolt deserved better
>>566359032>carrying this over
>>566359032You cross-link like this.>>>/v/738431281Now let's see what this about.
>>566359605Basically, I thought gunvolt 2's ending was shit because I got really attached to Gunvolt and Joule's relationship in 1 and the latter dies permanently in 2. Other anon replies with the post you've quoted, and here we are.
>>566359605It's literally nothing. And Belladen 1-4 was bad if you were just looking for a fun game about zapping things.
>>566359798GV got off easy for his evil acts.
>>566359798Belladen is the most depressing set of Gunvolt final levels. It's also not that fun compared to the other GV finales, probably on purpose. It's samey, dreary, and miserable, and has the least fun set of final bosses.Everything, from the resigned soldiers to Zonda crying after you mortally wound her, to Mytyl and Joule's death, and then Copen and Gunvolt's fight and the ending, there's nothing happy or hype about it.
>>566360394I thought Zonda dying was a happy point for what she did to Joule. Fuck her. Gunvolt 2's ending was still shit though. Why do you and >>566359821 call it Belladen? It's the garden in my game?
>>566360010I mean, sure rape is preferable faith to execution but holy cow, not even Imperial is used to the amounts Kirin dished out in those two weeks.
>>566360529Dios mio. Please be bait.
>>566360529>BelladenBecause 8-4, in their infinite wisdom, took the light cult elements of Eden and blew up them up to become the entire theme of their movement. They're originally like ATEMS, where it's there, but it's not everything about them. Layla is even called the priestess of ATEMS, same as Zonda, for instance. In any case, in the Jap version, Eden's capital was called Belladen, because it was an actual place. They didn't feel the need to give it an esoteric cultish name. And people here don't feel the need to do it either, as it diminishes them. It also pays homage to Gunbike, INTI's first published title.Also, Zonda was never called the Oracle or whatever other grandiose titles 8-4 gives her, she's just comrade, like every other Eden member. And finally, Eden isn't even the official name, it's the Multinational Alliance(or Union) of Psychics, because they're a political movement with some cult elements, not just a cult. Zonda isn't even the supreme leader like 8-4 states, she's a figurehead.
>>566361994There is a sale going on.
>>566361994It is kind of funny how everyone on here decided Belladen is the proper name for Eden's city.>>566360529>Why do you and >>566359821 call it Belladen?Because it sounds cooler.
Anyone else think it's fucked up that Nova and Zonda both get terrible ends while EviLola in iX2 gets a happy one? I understand she went nuts because the love of her life was no longer around, but she's still implied to have successfully carried out a genocide against adepts (and probably humanity in general) and was trying to kill everything in a suicidal tantrum. And she was a hundred years old with millions of children. In comparison, Nova still cries in his sleep for the parental love he didn't get and Zonda is young enough where she'll take life advice from a 4channer.
>>566363513iX2 had a lighter tone than GV2 or 1.
>>566363513Because that whole plot was rushed. Copen didn't even ask what the blaster riffle was or even get a second to talk to Lola about how she is more than a tool for murder to him now.
>>566350082I have general fatigueit's always the same for everything i have lost all inspiration or creativity, being "wrong" on "tastes" according to the louder population of the general or just get bored of predictive chain of posts and the fictional sense of belonging just deadyet i can't leave here or not have the tab open after 6 yearssuch is lifei was on the garlic too but it was also at the creativity bankrupt from the last 3 years and schizophrenia acting up both on head and usual 4chin 4chins
>>566364101We been running for 6 years?
>>566350082>The Pandora anon always added Pandora to his chain so everyone ended up tired of her by the 3rd week.Wasn't he the guy who was organizing that shit? You shouldn't be surprised, when the person who goes by 'Pandoranon' - that likes to draw her - starts a game about drawing, and>surpriseends up drawing his hyperfixation.
>>566363513>In comparison, Nova still cries in his sleep for the parental love he didn't get and Zonda is young enough where she'll take life advice from a 4channer.Are adepts kids or anime "kids?" Basically, are they actual kids who'd have kid probs and react like kids to situations and cry for their mommy and daddy, or are they anime kids, who are mentally and sometimes physically adults? I'll post picture related as an extreme example of what I am talking about, where these two characters are 12. From the excerpts I have read posted in these thread, it seems like INTI always tries to have it both ways. They act much more like kids in the audio dramas than they do in the actual games, where they are just adults.
>>566364101That doesn't sound healthy at all, you unironically need to get off the internet.
>>566364852It's like this for adepts:Not stressed = kid like Stressed = adultishExtreme stress or panic = kid likeGenerally, adept maturity is difficult to place since they have Septima that boosts their cognitive abilities, making them more intelligent and quick-witted. This gives them the appearance of being more adult like, despite their chuunibyou tendencies. Furthermore, a lot of adepts you fight are under the effects of armed phenomena, which further fucks with their brains. To contrast, the nonadept kids all behave like actual kids. They're dumb, they cry a lot when stressed out, and are always angsting about their missing parents.
Thanks all for joining Episode 11 of Super Robot Wars Z2: Ruin Chapter.Today we doubled our debts, mirroring the brewing financial crisis in the markets
>>566365798Our squad is pretty much complete now aside from upgrades and other updates.
>>566363513Because Mama was the best little bot who genuinely tried her best when put in the unfixable position of picking up the pieces of a world on the verge of dying, not some douche with a twisted sense of justice and intense arrogance. And she couldn't even just quit by her own volition, she just had to keep going. I think everyone would go a little stir crazy after a while.The real tragedy is how she made DOZENS of carbon copy Creator-kuns to starve off her loneliness and longing, and yet she still hated every single one of them. Something something Ship of Theseus.
>>566365936when do sr points start being free
>>566366120When we can 130morale in turn 1, so soon enough.
>>566365798but we've only 1.98999'd out debts>>566366491you mean for units that aren't GL
>>566366114Zonda wasn't that arrogant, and it wasn't about justice either.
>>566366542Yeah. GL is going to be clicking Drill Break from the start now, maybe sticking a +2 move on it will be a good idea.
>>566366114>>566366690>hundred years without Copen and she starts taking on Zonda qualitiesMuses are all the same.
>>566366703did we get double kiai for getter yet
>>566366793I guess? I gave Musashi an extra +5 at the end so that could be enough.
>>566366879I mean did ryo discover the ability to yell
>>566366114Nova is only a douche to GV, and that's because of:>Scientist: If not even Nova can, it'll be hard for the other subjects to succeed... No... There's one other, who could have a slight chance. That blonde boy. His name is-->Young Nova: No... The Azure Striker... is MINE! I won't give it to you...! I won't give it up to anyone...! Please...! Don’t leave me...! I...! I am Gunvolt...! Please...! ...Don't leave...
>>566367061No this Ryoma doesn't. Actually I don't think many, or any Ryomas get yell at all, unless they are piloting alone for whatever reason.
>>566367141That just makes him more pathetic.
>>566366703also need some kind of energy regen item
>>566367482Shuttle has Renew now, energy is not a problem anymore.
>>566367279he gets it in alpha and AP>>566367548but that's cutting into our bless SP...
>>566367723We have another Bless dispenser
>>566367895won't geese units fuck off to 00 plot in short order
Okay, I've successfully tested the endingI guess this is vaguely releasable now
>>566367938They fuck off for like 3 chapters and they stick with the earth route after.
>>566368041can you fix the backlog>>566368074why aren't we feeding lulu then
>>566368172We are feeding our attackers first, unless you mean exp, in that case I guess we can give him a boss kill
>>566368172I'll probably wait for next patch to do that because I'm afraid of breaking things now that they're mostly working
>>566364101You should probably leave, anon. If this place ain't doing it for you then there's no need to stick around.
>>566270246Nobody cared so much about it that the one infamous word Xiao said immediately applied, as it ruined everything about the franchise. I wish Xiao never exists, then none of this would have happened.
>>566270246It already happened? O-oh...
>>566376307Pantera wins and China wins.Xiao wins and China also wins.Game's rigged.
>Inti Creates 30th anniveersary was on Gohan DayPOTENTIAL STUDIO
Given the success of Star Fox Switch 2's reveal, perhaps Capcom should make a hyper realistic Megaman game.
>>566270518I was too busy looking at her cute feet.
NES lettering is so fucked. The little comma addition (dakuten) leaves such a huge gap. It's like I'm reading the word robot but it comes off like Rob bot
>>566379894If anything I'd love for a game to lean towards Ariga's art style. He's my favorite Megaman artist.
>>566379894That was called Pragmata and people eat it.
Hey, how come a small, no name indie studio that's can't afford proper localization hired Calliope Mori to do most of this game OST and INTI hasn't done President Ex Machina yet?https://youtu.be/mu-semky9Ls?si=OusmeBj7eNFEYx-F
>>566353260Gibril and Zonda are the two most perfect nerd eaters that IntiCreates has ever done. Then came CnC and showed up that yes, they were not designed with that intention.
>>566387290>Inti being able to afford anything
>>566387909Then put it on Kickstarter >Stretch goals are more international interventions for the plot >Iran is mentined 3 times in said stretch goals
>>566388119>get a yakuza laundering scheme to make a kickstarter
>>566353260uoh little girl sexouoh gremlin girl sexo
>>566387290you know inti fucked up when they couldn't even bait the gooner
>>566388941>What was the latest Shenmune
>>566394382What Inafune wishes he could've pulled.
>>566394382A game made by a retard with a lot of genuine soul behind him.It's like Swery65. He was once asked what he'd do if he were to remake Deadly Premonition, and he said he'd add the ability to take a shower and ride a bicycle. Not fix the horrendous slowdowns or actually improve the game.
>>566395751>with a lot of genuine soul>Sold itself to epic >Said that it would end the story but ended up being just another sequel bait
>>566390429No wonder they didn't bother doing anything for Galgun's anniversary.
>>566387803>they were not designed with that intention.Well, Gibril was developed from one of Quinn's character concepts that Tsuda rejected for being too interesting.>CnC Are you talking about Ancie?
>>566399671Yes. Ancie is supposed to be the ultimate nerd wet dream according to the boomers at INTI.
>>566399671Please stop repeating that unless you can read Japanese and the design book actually says as much. Proto-Quinn and Gibril have nothing in common other than short, red hair, that's it.
>>566399896Ancie is just an improved Quinn.
>>566400029Quinn is totally useless other than moral support, so no. Ancie actually does stuff and accompanies you into dungeons.
>>566399964They meme about it because the second rejected concept sounds a lot like a less cool Desna.
>>566387290Different priorities? INTI is risk-averse because whenever they get some courage, they throw lots of money into a project like DMFD or Majogami and then lose big.
>>566400514>they throw lots of money>Inti having money to throw
>>566387803>Elise left out again
>>566400804They can usually scrap something together. They're also a mercenary studio, though that part of the industry has been slowly going extinct as the industry consolidates. Big publishers don't give independent smaller studios spin-offs and smaller titles to develop like they once did.
>>566401263just asking the yakuza for loans
Does X even have any famous quotes?
>>566402520calling your ass a maverick
>>566402520>"Stop it...! :("
Would we have gotten Olga trying to kill Gunvolto in the original draft for GV3? She'd be a young teen after the timeskip, so right around the age to eat a luxcalibur.
>>566402520ore wa rorikon de wa nai
>>566402520
>>566402520Shotgun ice Fire Wave Storm tornado
>>566366690Zonda is by nature a good person. She'd blossom into an amazing woman if she weren't constantly bombarded with crimes against humanity and surrounded by misery.Nova would also be trying to do right by others, but he'd also have a stick up his ass while doing so. Still, he's supposed to be a pleasant, contemplative person in Justice Rage. Someone who seeks alternatives to violence and Project Muse, and only picks them as a final recourse. So the complete opposite of GV, basically.
>>566407604>Someone who seeks alternatives to violence and Project Muse, and only picks them as a final recourse.That's definitely not what he does in Gunvolt 3.
>>566407746GV is a special case. GV presses all of his trauma and hate buttons. Even then, it wasn't a death fight, else Nova would have released his glaives, and Nova admitted he was wrong afterward.
>>566379894>success>of a reveallol lmao
>>566407604adepts are an affront to humanity
>>566400029>Ancie is just an improved RiCO.FTFY
>>566408817That why the OVA showed nonadepts being envious of adpets?
>plurals>one dudeThis guy is adept at being partial.
>>566409643>one guy>wishing for the powers not to be an adept
>>566402520A lot of them actually;>"Looking at the human girl is a foul, speaking to the human girl is a tecnical could and touching the human girl NOW THAT'S A LINCHING!">"Security security we have a code bot over here, two hungry looking reploids are at the door">"What is going on here!? Wait it's just two reploids killing one another, proceed"And my favorite >"I thank our human lords for the morning sun each day, for the food they provide and for the air that I breathe. Also, I ask forgiveness for the replods still living, Light knows that they aren't gonna apoligize for themselves"
You'd think he'd make it less obvious it's him making shit up again.
Time to make more affronts to humanity then.
>>566410524This >>566410228 is clearly meming
>>566410864No, I'm talking about >>566407604 >>566409643
One guy is obviously enough to prove that all non septimals dreams to be septimals.But the fact that septimal girls only gravitate towards septimal males as shown consistently throughout all 5 games? Nothing more than a sampling issue.
>memeing
>>566411186Don't look at me. I'm the one who says that if you aren't at least on the 5th Lifewave state, an adept isn't going to give you the time of day. Other people are reaching for GalGun and other anime tropes about normies getting with extraordinary women (even though Houdai is kind of a chad when you finally see him in Gal Guardians), and then extrapolating that means 400 pound whales are landing hotties.
>>566410524>Uncle Xsus >Making shit up
>>566411186By the looks of this general. I can say that people wish to be with the anime girl more than they wish to be the adept guy. Especially because the adept guy is too battle autistic to enjoy the adept girl.
Were things better when X was the biggest uncle Tom in fiction or do you prefer the Teppen retcon that he never had a choise but to be the good human loving slave?
>>566413030Adept girls just don't like fighting as much. See >>566208042 . Elise 1, Desna, Stella, and Isola also treat it as an annoyance or hate it.
At this point it's obvious he's projecting his uncle Tom self onto X
So the SF Collection flopped...
>>566413540But then you Kirin, Gibril, and Prado, who love to fight.
>>566412056>LifewaveHow many levels of this shit are there anyway? Is there a hard limit?
>>566415146Don't know. Right now, there's eight. Anything beyond that seems superfluous as the Eighth allows you to rewrite or destroy reality. A Ninth Wave would be like God or something.
Fujo reaction to Eden. She thinks they're all hot, but she thinks Tenjian is the hottest character in Gunvolt (what is with girls and this type of character). Swoons for Milas and says he reminds her of Speedy Dave (weird). Gauri is her favorite, and she wants to do things with his abs. Teseo and Gibril are cute. She wanted Zonda and Joule to have a tea party because they would have become great friends, and it'd have been cute. She had a reaction image to Sumeragi as well, and didn't gush over their cuteness/attractiveness aside from Elise and Merak, so I guess Eden are just really good-looking to either gender or something.
>>566411186>But the fact that septimal girls only gravitate towards septimal males as shown consistently throughout all 5 games?That’s not true.
>>566418019>Gunvolt >Having female fans
>>566413734>Kirin >Adept
>>566418083We really need to get Copen with an adept girl.
>>566419404Technically, Lola is an adept, even if Copen will never admit it. Lola even says as much herself in iX. All you need to be an adept is to hold and use a septima, which Lola does, and Lola has her eyes set on Copen in at least the mainline. But the lulziest option will always be Zonda, because then you get that meme mirrored on both sides.
>>566411186You sure have a bizarre fixation with your NTR fetish.
>>566419913I think Acura does a good job in showing "the non-adept perspective", but we are reading it wrong. He's hateful, spiteful, psychotically so. But magically his demon maid doesn't count as a monster and his adept sister doesnt count and his adept robot he made(in a way his daughter) also doesn't count showing how people are hypocritical and make excuses for the adepts in their lives but are intolerant of people in basically the same circumstances.
>>566344852Gonna correct this. So from the Strikers Bonus, Zonda infiltrated Sumeragi over a year before the events of GV1. Joule's mission happens, and then we have a timeskip of 6 months. The rest of the events of GV1 happens over the course of a few weeks to a few months. After GV1, GV wanders around for a few more months more killing other homeless adepts until he finds Quinn and Xiao. Then GV2 starts. So Zonda was undercover for nearly 2 years. That's probably why she's so much more innocent and emotional in Eden's Party. Operating in Sumeragi bloodied her hands significantly.
>>566426883Nah, the timeline isn't matching up. Gibril joined Eden when she was 13 because that's when prep school graduates students in Britain. Can't be two years as she's 14 in GV2.
>>566427787IIRC, Gibril went to an all-girls prep school. They almost always graduate their students at 11.
>>566427787>GibrilOr maybe Inti can't into timelines. Wouldn't be the first time.
>>566428048>11 year old Gibril going through that shitWow, that's really fucked up. Why is Gunvolt 2 so fucked up?
>>566428278What do you mean? GV is so cool and aloof.
>>566428048>>566428278Yeah, her being 11 when she killed her dad makes more sense with her backstory, even if you think Zonda's infiltration takes place close to the events of GV1. She does a lot of shit.
>>566428510Isn't the thing people like about him the harshness and contempt he treats all his enemies with and the lack of remorse he has towards killing them?
Who are you sitting next to?
>>566412056>Sumeragi upper management finally introduced in new game >COO/Vice-President of Sumeragi name is KudokiWhat would your reaction be?
>>566433731Is that a trick question? >>566434536Final Fantasy 8 vibes.
>>566434536Making the hero of a previous game the villain of the next is not a good idea and should not be attempted unless you know what the hell you are doing.
>>566434536Why would Hodai keep his name? He married Maya, and the Kamizono clan is very prestigious and wealthy so he'd marry into her clan and thus take her last name.
>>566436087>Why would Hodai keep his name?Because fuck inti and keeping a story straight.
>>566433731Zonda cute
>no Houdai-kun>no pupvolt>no Roroballs>even though they already made themInti sucks at merchandising.
>>566435609How do you feel about the way Araki draws your girl?
>>566437557>tfw no figs
>>566437557I think Inti sucks
>>566438964Hope you like living without the sun then
>>566438964The fifth sun is all that keeps the Tzitzimimes from destroying humanity, humble yourself before the sun this instant. Yes I am crossing the mythological streams.
>>566439052I got Amaterasu.
>>566437557As bad at merchandising as they are at making games.
>>566439346>I got the hikki that hides in a cave
>>566364852>Jota: How deplorable... Is this an example of the modern youth?>Viper: HUH? Why'ya talking like a geezer? How old are ya!?>Jota: 18 years.>Viper: THEN YOU'RE STILL A YOUTH!>Jota: Nonsense! I’m older than you lowlife!>Viper: PRETENDING LIKE YOU'RE A BIG BOY (adult)!>Jota: You cretinous...little...>Nova: Calm down, Jota... You said you had no intention of serving under anyone, didn't you? So... does that mean *you're* the one running things?They are kids whenever it is convenient for drama.
>>566439592Sure do and the Tamamo seal rock is broken.
>>566442551Shows up in the Strikers Drama too:Jota: 小さな子供に破壊工作を命じるとは...! エデン...! なんと人道にあるまき集団!Ordering young children to carry out sabotage...! Eden...! What an utterly inhumane organization!There are some other characters sprinkled here and there who react with shock or horror to the ages of characters. Jota above actually doesn't go all out against Eden because he doesn't want to kill kids. Against Gibril, he shows mercy, and she kinda returns the favor later when she gets control of the blood in his body and runs off instead of finishing him. GV and Copen don't care, so it never comes up.
Which is the real Megaman general?
The secret third one
>>566444859Whichever has the discussion you want going at the moment.
>>566444915Pragmata general!
>>566444648Things this rapidly breaking down after Tamamo broke free are not surprising but they do scare me.
>>566444727>Jota above actually doesn't go all out against Eden because he doesn't want to kill kids. Against Gibril, he shows mercy, and she kinda returns the favor later when she gets control of the blood in his body and runs off instead of finishing him. GV and Copen don't careThe villain short stories make it really hard for my to sympathize with electric blue man in the first two games. I know he has his own head issues and a limited perspective, and he is on the morally right side overall, but it still makes him look really bad, especially when he's so cool about killing everyone.
>>566444859I won't tell
>>566439502Majogami was good at everything but making money.
>>566450445It was good at being kusoge.
In this episode of INTI humiliation, Luluka's dastardly mystery plot is revealed to be muh free will, break the bonds of oppression by empowering her illusions. She styles herself the Phantom of Freedom (自分の意志でファントムにいる!) . She's from London or something, because she's an Alice Liddell copy.
>>566454685The morpho butterfly that's been shown throughout represents her tragic (maybe dead) past friend or something, probably the blue magical girl with the butterfly themes.
>>566454685>muh free will, break the bonds of oppression by empowering her illusions. She styles herself the Phantom of Freedom Totally unrelated. They’re not that similar. You’re reading too much into it. It’s just Through the Looking Glass.
>>566454685So her illusions will be shattered. Who's going to be the one to give her the TouMAN punch?
>>566454685/a/'s been meming muh free will with her now
>>566455583Japan's already saying the black and purple is going to get purged out. Guess Zonda rejection is a constant.
>>566444859Yes.>>566445002Discussion on the other general
>>566455159They're related because they both copy the same source material. It's sort of like how Toaru and Gunvolt have a lot of similarities becuase they remix the same material.
>>566455913>Guess Zonda rejection is a constant.They have to at this point because all the little girls see Luluka as the role model, not the heroines. Could you imagine how bad it'd be if Zonda had the same appeal?
>>566456667My too remember when Alice wanted to use her illusion superpower to fight oppression.
>>566454685>>566455159They also confirmed that she's a genius who solved thousands of criminal cases before the age of 14. Standard anime ridiculousness.
>>566457123Coincidental.>>566457464They both drawn from the mastermind and fallen antihero archetype, so being a genius is a given.
>>566456856They don't have to but they will.
>>566457630>Coincidental.Oh, surely.
It's all a tease for the 30th anniversary project to be a Gunvolt adaptation done by toei
>>566456856>at this point because all the little girls see Luluka as the role model, not the heroines. Could you imagine how bad it'd be if Zonda had the same appeal?>
internet problems, please wait warmly
How do you use abilities in gunvoltclicking the stick does absolutely nothing
The depiction of Earth's surface in Battle Network universe has always been inconsistentBN1, BN6 and Star Force: real-life EarthBN2: Looks nothing like real-life EarthBN4: Something that vaguely resembles real-life EarthAnyway here's a map I made in the past
>>566463546I better see that Z2 or else
>>566464823I'd guess XX:30
>>566444727>>566445479It's hilarious that all the villains are way more merciful than Gunvolt in their pieces. I know it's because they can't kill each other because you have to, but even minor unamed characters are usually okay. Viper? He fights four guys and they're all okay. He told the rival adept gang member to beat it after defeating him. Even the guy he fake out killed ended up being okay as Viper turned out to be a big softie and was just scaring the others.Nova? Doesn't kill anyone. Says he hates violence. Actually hates Project Diva and looked for another way but couldn't find anything better.Jota? See picture. He had Gibril at his mercy three times, and didn't kill her because killing children disgusted him so much. Gibril was unloading an AK at him, and he just blasts her gun and laments the tragedy of children being forced to take up arms.Gibril? She actually does talk about killing and shoots a Sumeragi soldier, but she doesn't finish off Jota when she has the chance because he spared her.Zonda? See her commentary on how pointless revenge killings against nonadept civilians solves nothing. She also recruited a few adepts like Gibril by defeating and then talking to them.Like what game is INTI playing here? What do they want me to feel towards these characters, and especially Juan Voltos?
>>566458832Yes.
>>566465750Sending her into a mirror world and then breaking the mirror exit.
It is time for the 12th melt session of The 2nd Super Robot Wars Z: Ruin Chapter. Pic related.https://parsec.gg/g/38gXmTiAVEvCVv85P6Krz86iKwm/wmclfadb/Expect bugs/crashes, numerous untranslated things, numerous incorrectly translated things, and a new wave of bugs from a new way of rendering text.Starting at XX:35
>>566466489https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xKoXcvWjsM8
>>566465973I've read that one. Was hot.
>>566438487From way back.
>>566467647>>566464959He's cool and zaps people without caring about their personal problems.
>>566467826
>>566467826Does it have kung fu crushing Zonda's neck while she screams for her brother action?
But its okay because the first thing he did was NOT kill a child
>>566468658He really should've gone through and done it, considering what that act lead to
>>566454685>>566465750Even though it is definitely just coincidence that she hits the same notes as Pantera, it shows Inti struck fucking platinum with Pantera and like cowards afraid of the big bad westerners bitching on social media that they are refuse to use her again because cunny bad because they said so.
>>566464959Because they see Eden as possible, recruits or at worst crafting materials.
>>566470026Nah, Jota tells Gibril to run away twice, and only moves to capture her once she commits. His entire hangup was that she was a little girl. There was nothing about recruiting or handing her over to SFIT.
>>566469805They don't want to acknowledge that their mascot killed a little girl in his edgy phase.
>GV is a weapon raised by an insane man to kill without remorse>GV's villains are actual human beings Wow.
>>566470491You can just show Pantera and not rub it in everyone's face Gunvolt stabs her with a thunder sword as she cries for her big brother.
>>566470668but where's the fun in that?
>>566470847Where's the fun now?
>>566469805>Even though it is definitely just coincidence that she hits the same notes as PanteraI see no reason to think this.
>>566471039this thread is pretty funny. seeing people sethe over upjumped stage bosses is great. thank you for zapping those ocs to the max, juan voltos.
>>566471516Horny blonde lolis that fight for the oppressed using mirrors and a strong Alice in Wonderland influence are a dime a dozen.There's Pantera, Luluka, Alice from uh Queen's Blade no wait she's a dom and not a loli, um Alice from Mary Skelter in her super form where she's platinum blonde?Wait no neither of those have mirrors.
>GV kills Jota>GV: And that's a wrap... >Asimov: Excellent work taking down that boasting menace. You gave me enough time to secure the inner tower. Shall we return to the rendezvous point? >GV: Yeah. No problem. Heading over now. With the Jota posting, I went back and took a look at the script. Oh, classic era Gunvolt. You and your undereaction/contentment over murdering other people.>>566470519The most interesting and frustrating thing is the way GV will moralize about killing. If he was like Copen, where he didn't feel need to dig for the one trait that will excuse killing the other guy, it'd be less annoying.Everyone has negative traits, so GV is not completely wrong when he turns up the sanctimony on somebody, but those traits are not the totality of who they are. The only one he was completely wrong about was Desna ("there is no excuse for your actions") and Zonda ("you treat Joule and everyone else as objects for your own benefit").
funniest possible thing they could do for iX3 is have cope deluxe go fight gal gun/guardian demons or something, i don't know why it took me so long to think of thatgunvolt killed like 60-80 dudes on the way to whatever technicolor homosexual is at the end of the level, and both doesn't know or care about any of their backstories outside of whatever they yap at him mid fight because why would he.
>>566473497the funniest thing for iX3 is probably to go full multiverse and fight different versions of copen/gunvoltit can both serve as a 30th anniversary thing as well as inti always being 10 years late to a trend
>>566470668Well, they do have her appear pretty often, but they don't give her any story roles because they'd have to acknowledge it. She was conspicuously absent in the GV3 final boss refights. You got to fight her projection, but that's like saying that because Lumen was in the game, that Joule was there too. In the dialogue with Tenjian, he accuses you of crushing Zonda's dreams without directly naming her. Bitch, that's not the accusation you should be making, her dreams deserve to be crushed; she was going to kill billions. But in any case, GV reacts like he was just accused of killing a cute kid anyway. It's all because INTI don't want that stink. They haven't had a hero kill a character below the age of 17 die in any of their games since GV2 ten years ago.
>>566471827>seeing people sethe over upjumped stage bosses is greatHow can you call yourself a Gunvolt fan if you don't obsessively waifu at least one of the boss characters?
>>566470668She and Elise are the villains who still rarely appear on wallpapers.
>>566470519It's almost like an inversion of Mega Man.
>>566470519>>566475256isn't that just the inti series
>>566464357Not sure about NT Warrior though
>>566474171>she was going to kill billions.Nuh uh.
Copen becomes a family man
>>566464357Don't forget Atlantis and Mu
>>566469805Isn't she like the most popular main villain in Gunvolt, or is she just the most drawn because, you know?
>>566477981>the most popular X in GunvoltThat means like a dozen people like character.
>>566478448Thats a whole double the fans of #2!
>>566477061Gunvolt's Route:>Tenjian: My sister's wish is my wish. To create a world free of the filth of the non-psychics.*****>Zonda: You know that the Diva’s song possesses the ability to amplify the Seventh Wave... With her song, combined with the technology I acquired from Sumeragi, I can elevate every single Adept to even greater heights of evolution. Once these Adepts—empowered with such formidable strength—stand united, even old humanity, for all their numerical superiority, will be utterly powerless to stand against us.>Gunvolt: Wha? You intend to wage war upon the nonadepts?!>Zonda: You may not be able to understand, living in a land of peace... but ...adepts and nonadepts... the time when we could join our hands passed long ago... This is the only strategy for survival... and for anyone who stands in the way—there can be no love. There can be no mercy.*****Copen's Route:>Zonda: Next, we will create... a utopia. An Eden for all, without non-psychics.*****>Zonda: Come, Acura. Will the adept prevail, or the nonadept? For this is a struggle of survival—a battle upon which the fitness of our people is staked.BILLIONS
>>566480151Nah.
>>566480151She actually sounded a little sad in GV's route about how it came to this, but in Cope's route, she was like fuck all you nonadepts.She's very different from the cute Zonda in the audio story.
>>566480287All her friends are dead now. No shit she's gonna behave differently.
>>566480671She's coping hard by the end of the game that they're still alive inside her through the mirror shards.
>>566477981>most popular main villain in GunvoltYes, and she's got some very decent compatition like Asimov and Nova.
Thanks all for joining Episode 12 of Super Robot Wars Z2.1: Ruin Chapter.This episode we learned about the power of drills and power of (so)nia to overcome depression and become based
>>566481734More like we learned that the beast has been unleashed and can not be stopped
>>566481115Asimov and Nova are better villains for GV though. They have a personal history or parallelism with Gunvolt that Zonda doesn't. Zonda would be a better villain for Mytyl or Kirin though, and not just because they're grils.
>>566481868it's not like he can still get stronger or anything
>>566480887I mean, she's one Elise shard away from that no longer being cope.
>>566481961I wonder if, in the afterlife, she realized she could have just made a mirror Elise copy and then have that Elise resurrect her friends.
>>566481918He main problem with Kirin is what her homeland does with dogs.
>>566482049The real Elise might still be alive. She had a bar in 3. I just hope that it wasn't a maid bar.
>>566473497>Give him an angel motif from Seraphic Ruin, plays off Lola's existing darkness mode stuff>"Wow Boss we need to punch Nori in the nose :D">???>ProfitSure that works ship it
>>566481918She's the perfect villain for Copen though, as for their respective points of view this is an existential conflict for the survival of the fittest.Gunvolt is just fucking over his own sub-species for no good reason. The butterfly fairy that lives inside his head got hurt.
>>566482147Too peaceful to be a Maid Cafe.
>>566481734if only there was a way to combine the drill and the whip...
>>566481734gee i need one of those right now
>>566482215>She's the perfect villain for Copen though, as for their respective points of view this is an existential conflict for the survival of the fittest.No, that's Tenjian and Asroc. Zonda is Mytyl and Joule's reflection. The game states this in the final Tenjian fight in both routes where it directly compares Zonda to Joule/Mytyl. Copen hears Mytyl's echoing voice calling out "big brother" as he watches Zonda dies (her last word happens to be "big brother" as well).
>>566482847>Copen hears Mytyl's echoing voice calling out "big brother" as he watches Zonda dies (her last word happens to be "big brother" as well).What was that about? Was he actually hearing his sister's soul, or was he hallucinating and seeing Zonda as Mytyl?
>>566482847No, it's Zonda. Zonda is the "mirror" to Copen, she possesses equally strong convictions, a ruthless commitment to her goal and is fighting for the exact same reason he is: The perceived destruction of her own species if she doesn't end the other first. They both believe they are doing what is necessary and operating on the same consistent although twisted moral code.You need to look a bit deeper than merely handwaving superficial comparisons.
>>566482938> hearing his sister's soul, or was he hallucinatingIt's ambiguous. Knowing Copen, it's the former. He wouldn't see transformed Zonda as anything but a monster.It doesn't matter. It sets up the parallelism between Zonda and Mytyl either way.
>>566483596If Zonda thought that coexistence with nonadepts were possible, she'd give up her plan. If Copen thought it were possible, he wouldn't care, because who'd want to live next to a bunch of vermin? You kill vermin wherever you find them. That's the difference. It's the same with Tenjian or Asroc. His motive isn't bourne out of fear or drive for survival, those are secondary; he just really, really hates adepts and views humanity as spiritually/morally/genetically superior. You don't see that hate driving Zonda.
>>566483596Bro, Zonda gets influenced hard by the people around her. She's like the opposite of Copen, who has people telling him he's being a tard and doubles down.
>>566483931How can you play through this series and still get Copen wrong? His motives are laid bare the very moment you meet him and his ideology is accounted for every time you see him. It isn't 'just' a hatred for adepts that drives Copen. It is the genuine, deep seated belief that they WILL mete out the end to humanity if they aren't destroyed first. And with every Sumeragi operative or Eden member he comes across, this conviction is only reinforced. Copen takes no joy in killing adepts, hell the guy doesn't even fucking smile anymore. He doesn't practice poses in the mirror either or examines the dialogue of others to come up with excuses. He's a gardener weeding out the pests threatening to destroy the garden, because that's the moral justification that allows Copen to function.>>566484248>who has people telling him he's being a tard and doubles downIronically, that's the Zonda backstory with the Eden Party.Copen is influenced by the people around him too. His father shares the same prejudice, his mother is nothing if not a bigot and his demon maid doesn't even try to stop him. In fact, she enables him by not only training him, not ONLY provide him with resources and funding circumventing the family, but also provides field intelligence and even takes an active part in the eradication.
>>566482447do you not have a pocket luna helping you with things
>>566481734I don't like this ship at all because I'm not a Geo self-inserter and as a character he's boring, but this image looks kino.
>>566491471geo is for luna anyway
>>566492103It should've been me...But since it's not me I'm glad it's my boy Geo.
Looks more like a date than a fight.
>>566497195That's either the safest or unsafest maid cafe in the country
>unsafest
>>566494819Lev takes pleasure in combat so the best most thrilling date would obviously be an underwater engagement, especially against the guy she obsesses over. She loves it.
>>566485503Look. Kurona needs at least one Kamizono heir, the girl is basically a potato and the boy only can get a boner if it is a murderboner. So all Kurona can do is enable Copen and hope that the gf that she made for him takes the opportunity do get some genetic material.
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/144592839
>>566499374We only saw Lev fight once outside the water and she jobbed so hard she was about to sign a boxing contract.
https://www.pixiv.net/en/artworks/144609693
>>566483596Zonda living in the Pokemon world would just be fairy type Coral.>Gibril ends up as a steel type trainer streamer >No, even if her ACE is a Magnamine she's not stealing Iono's act
>>566502992The very rare blue Regina.
>Magnamine
>>566503282>Zonda is an absolute jobber who suicide bombs herself
>>566485503>A sister not bound by blood... a stepsister, then. A false bond—fitting, I suppose, for a false human. You dare equate the true bond between Mytyl and me with such a sham...? Don't make me laugh! You vermin!Then he's like after I kill you, I will find your fake sister and I will torture her, and she will join you in hell. Backed up when earlier he told Gibril that didn't need preptime because he's used to killing small children like her.And then in iX2, he killed humanity to kill adepts. His plan seemed to be>eradicate human population>seed planet with "his" humanity that don't breed adepts>profitbut it didn't work out for reasons, probably because suppressing the lifewave turbofucks everyone (see Mytyl).Zonda is sad that adepts and nonadepts can't get along. Copen thinks "good."Finally, about Copen not smiling, I remember Copen making some bad jokes about killing adepts. He liked how painfully Asroc died being cooked alive. He's not as often satisfied as Gunvolt is after a kill, but it still shows up sometimes.
>>566506665>he told Gibril that he didn't need preptime because he's used to killing small children like her.That's a hell of a flex.
>>566472440Blonde+pink when she turns into a magical girl, aka going through the looking glass, else it's platinum blonde/gray hair.
>>566506665>the guy who had his only living close family abducted doesn't show much restraint against her abducteesImagine my shock. Bet you'd defend Tenjian if the roles were reversed.>>566507204He didn't, this dude is making shit up half the time. Gibril tells Copen to "Get ready" with which Copen replies "I don't need to get ready for a kid like (You)" which then triggers Gibril's age/height based berserk button.
>>566507632>Imagine my shock. Bet you'd defend Tenjian if the roles were reversed.It'd be less justifiable because Mytyl can't even fight back.
>>566507632>He didn't, this dude is making shit up half the time.I guess if your Japanese is extra bad and you want Copen to be a serial killer, it might look like he's used to beating pipsqueaks:構えろ…だと?貴様のようなザコに構っているヒマはない!とっととそこを退け、小童が!!Copen is a vigilante serial killer who wouldn't bat an eye at killing adept toddlers, but he didn't say it there.
>>566508354>He actually called her zako
>>566507632His dialogue with the soldiers are more enlightening. His response to the soldiers throwing themselves against him knowing they'd die is to say that they're noisy, and he'll shut them up, and that this proves that adepts are truly monsters that he will never be able to understand. Zonda still sees the humanity in the other side to an extent, even if she's warped by the belief that it is a law of nature that only one side will survive. She sounds mournful that adepts and nonadepts can't coexist and empathizes with Copen's desires to protect his tribe. Tenjian ends up having a moment of empathy for Copen over being older brothers. Copen cannot ever see any commonality or positivity in any adept, period. He will never empathize with an adept as he currently is.
So what you're saying isCopen needs correction
>>566485503Copen>lived in a mansion with its own private hospital wing>radicalized from his long dead dad, watching the news (in a country that tightly controls media to be more centrist), and the internetZonda>orphanage she was living in shut down because fuck adepts>forced onto the streets where all the other orphans died or were killed by anti-adeptfags>nice seeming old man gave her and her one surviving brother poisoned food like they were rats and nearly killed them>saw massacres, pogroms, and death camps as she traveled around>surrounded by people who have experienced the horrors of oppression>comes to internalize that this is simply the natural state of adept/nonadept relations>Copen still ends up coming off the more hateful one
>>566507632Copen can't even make short jokes without being called a baby killer that's crazy
Copen seethe
>>566511335Copen found /pol/. That's the difference.
>>566508354>Copen is a vigilante serial killer who wouldn't bat an eye at killing adept toddlersAbsolutely, but so is Zonda. Arguably a much worse one since there are a lot more ningen lolis out there that she's willing to execute than there are adept lolis for Copen to murder.>>566509835>even if she's warped by the belief that it is a law of nature that only one side will surviveAnd there you have it, Copen's moral imperative, the exact foundation of all of Zonda's actions and the reason why she is Copen's mirror. Genocide is genocide, that she's being cordial about it doesn't change a single lick. If anything it just makes her condescending.Copen's crusade is very much a sign of monomania and is something that has been a part of his life since presumably early childhood. He and Zonda are acting on a shared internal moral code, one that is twisting into self-annihilation and tragedy. Very Shakespearean. More importantly, the ending shows that Copen is also very much aware that what he's doing IS evil and at no point does he enjoy having to do it, but it simply must be done. Same as Zonda. It's all very interesting, and one of the reasons why I view GV2 as "Copen's game," Tsuda and continuity be damned. There is barely any sense of who right or wrong, what we have is essentially two villains with the same sense of obligation squaring up against each other.Furthermore, we know from Copen's interactions with Mytyl, Nori and Roro that Copen isn't as evil as he's trying to appear. The "Adept Slayer" or "Demon, hellbent on revenge" or whatever he opts for calling himself are all fictions that Copen chose to protect himself from the atrocities he has to commit. The boy under the mask? He pampers his bedridden sister, he has a great friendly dynamic with his servant, he buys pankekis for random girls and escorts lost children to the police. It would've been fascinating to follow up on this, but alas. GV3.
>>566512105This, really.Zonda has a great social circle, meanwhile Copen is some friendless loser who sits and stews in his own bigotry. He's the /pol/ archetype on Sumeragichan.
>>566513019>The boy under the mask? He pampers his bedridden sister, he has a great friendly dynamic with his servant, he buys pankekis for random girls and escorts lost children to the police.The plot of iX1 is essentially just Copen adopting some random children and doing errands for them like getting medicine until Asimov decides to be a dickhead again.
>>566513019You're kind of arguing uphill against Zondafags, especially because 8-4 shat in the pool with her character so hard. To get them to agree that she's the same as Copen, you're going to have to convince them that Zonda is solely responsible for her own beliefs and actions. That she is the one who is acting through Tenjian, and that she radicalized him, which is difficult, especially when INTI puts out that she didn't have that much power in Eden.
>Zonda is Copen's counterpart>she has nothing in common with Mytyl and Joule>her powers are projection based; she uses it to project an imagined version of herself that acts independently of her>her design shares many similiarity with Joule's from GV2's>she's represented by purple butterflies >she's becomes a muse in her final battleokay
>>566515371Also the fact that Tenjian says oh, hey, I'm an older brother or protect a cute younger girl like you do, and I'm building a better world for them, Copen/Gunvolt. And GV will say yes, we are similar and that's why I have to kill you. From Copen, you just get edge.
>>566513019The fact that iX2 gave GV2 Copen and Mother a happy ending despite them killing off humanity to kill all adepts, and Mother wanting to kill off the rest of sentient life while Zonda had her soul annihilated by Joule at the end of GV2 shows that ultimately, Copen was the one that the story sided with.
Roll for mother's day
Besides Lolass and Eve, any other Inti mom out there? Mother Elf counts?
>>566521548
>>566521548>lolnoass
>>566522797Haven't you got tired of taking this bait yet? You've been doing it for years now
>>566523039Every day until he likes it.
>>566523279He only does it for engagement in the first place, which you're so eager to give him
>>566523616Roro has no ass though, it's the simple truth.It's like saying that the theory of gravity is bait.
>>566525542Well if you really want to feed the troll that badly you likely wouldn't let me stop you
>>566485503>>566483596>>566482215>>566513019>>566515371So what you're saying is that Copen and Zonda need to kiss. An angry anti-adept templar who is the scion of a very rich and powerful family and the peace-loving, yet compassionate anti-nonadept maiden of salvation who grew up owning nothing that mirrors him. It's like the bad romance stories write themselves.
>>566530117What part of mass genocide is "peace-loving, yet compassionate?" /zpg/ is fucking delusional as always.
>>566530549>adept empowerment is genocide This is your brain on Cope.
>>566519012Lola got hit with depression rampancy and Copen didn't actually do anything wrong directly iirc so they get to go the megaman machine afterlife together to eat donuts and watch movies or whatever it is dead people do.
>>566531820You could argue that Zonda was driven crazy by the crap she went through as well. It's ironic Lola is given many of Zonda's superficial traits though, like her voice distortion and attack patterns.Example of VAMother: https://youtu.be/TJrp909w80k?t=507Zonda: https://youtu.be/X1adYwJ6LwM?t=1095If iX2 wasn't so rushed, they might have built something more off of it.
>>566530549The genocide is treated as a necessity, not with any hate. Simply the way it has to be. She never states that adepts are better or nonadepts are worse, beyond that nonadepts cannot love adepts. She has complicated emotions concerning culling nonadepts. There are a few lines where she reacts positively to adepts saving nonadepts or working together (describing Nike's past or praising QUILL), she's one of the few GV2 characters who can frame adepts and nonadepts as a single group of people, and she doesn't seem happy about having the race war (see the holding hands quote, there's a lot of pausing and the tone she uses is slightly downcast). I really wish we would have gotten a rematch with her in GV3 to clarify her stances like Shiden's and Asimov's.
>>566530549better watch that anti-septism minoy
>>566531558>>566535369Die monster! You don't belong in this world.
Now that the dust has settled, can we agree that Bud getting Taurus Fire was the absolute worst thing that happened to Sonia's relevance as a character?
>>566534375I want Pantera to see GV3. Would she be horrified by what she sees? It's still a dogshit violent world, except everyone is anime now with the exception of some non-septimal background characters that are disenfranchised and few peole like Zed say "yeah I guess we should save their lives too".
>>566536952Now that the dust has settled, can we agree that Luna should have gotten a snake themed combat form and been an active member on adventures?
>>566536952Pretty sure jobbing to everyone and everything under the sun is what did it.
>>566537290Nobody is actually killing each other in GV3, so she'd consider that a huge improvement. Hell, they all think GV's a weirdo for his old mentality.
>>566533027should have considered becoming a cool robot first, filthy monster
>>566537490It's contagious
>>566537290>It's still a dogshit violent worldNah.>except everyone is anime now with the exception of some non-septimal background characters that are disenfranchisedDoubt.
>>566537290>adepts everywhere>little oppression>literal kingdoms out of fairy talesShe'd love it.
>>566537583That is true. People are still beating the shit out of each other but there's not mass graves or a lynching industrial complex so yeah maybe she'll actually be really happy about it.
>>566537430No, her role is to be the rescued by Megaman and push Geo to become stronger. Sonia is the battle bro and Bud is GutsmanZack doesn't exist.
>>566469805>Everyone LOVES me!
>>566543620Love sending her to the gas showers that is.
good news is that the backlog now worksbad news is that I can't host next friday or saturday so the vupsisters are winning
>>566545531>I can't host next friday or saturday
>>566543620You're NOT getting the pendant and your projections will NOT be singing in GV4, not matter how popular you may be. You probably won't even be in the game, if it even gets made. Have fun watching Nova buddying it up with Gunvolto and Copen.
>>566537430Worse character if you do, so no.
>>566536952Sonia is always relevant as a character.
>>566546526I could do a forbidden thursmelt or a hungover sunmelt
>>566543813Shut up Acura.
>>566526351>C1ial4
>>566547020If it's for Z2 I can cope with a thurs, sun is fine too at any hour.
>>566547126They're already predicting the black and purple will be gone in a few weeks so Zonda erasure is real.
>>566548224Corrected?
>>566536952its not just bud, its ace and rogue being useful too, and also wolf and cygnus being on reserves>>566537430NO, luna is supposed to be the princess to geo being a knight, keep her away from all combat, she already contributes heavily despite not being a combatant
>>566548685A 16 year old hag getting corrected. Or she goes in the way of Bad End Pretty Cure for shits and giggles.
>>566549323This. Luna is the Ciel, the Eve, the Zelda, the non-combatant who's still important and powerful in her own way.I would be fine with her having a moment like Eve where she powers up in some way to save the day, but it shouldn't be a regular thing.
>>566550569>the non-combatant who's still important and powerful in her own wayAnd whose role is to die.
Who the fuck is Eve
>>566550980The Blaster Master's GF and Muse
>>566550980A precious bean
>>566550980Woman who ruined everything for everyone
>>566550569>Luna is the Ciel>gets punched out of existence
>>566552474She got better.
>>566548224>the big money maker will be gone because she's teaching girls that it's good to be good to others and that oppression is bad¿?
Luna needs a bunny wave change form in Starforce 4
>>566553329Why can't she get Ophiuca back and switch combat forms again other than "we don't want to"?
>>566553571ophiuca is too villain coded and gives luna a big rack
I like how Sumeragi's science division are consistently the most evil group in Gunvolt. Even in GV3, they create almost all the problems, and they're the branch of Sumeragi still doing all the GV1 tier evil crap.
>>566553571Women shouldn't fight, they are weak
In iX, I think it was S-FIT which Asimov took over. They then became the Sumeragi Future Institute of Human Evolution and took over the rest of Sumeragi. It gives it a bit of extra irony as it was the division that Dr. K basically created and headed, and the one that created Asimov.
Should adept women fight?
>>566554719>>566555242You telling me this cute face was doing grotesque inhumane human experiments on a daily basis?Is that why she's a nurse, an "intimate" knowledge of the human body?I wonder what her septima does.
>>566555242Can't find any evidence for that, but I'd like it if it were true.
>>566556117
>>566553123Yes.
The odd thing is, why would Houdau fucking the nurse cause a time paradox?
>>566553101did she really? We created a fake
>>566556916No wait, no that's in GG2 where she mentions the time paradox thing.
>>566557008We agreed anon, Lunaclone is the real Luna. No need to add existential dread to the poor girl.
>>566554796female characters should fight if they get sexy magician rabbit girl costumes out of it
>>566557213we didn't agree on shit
>>566555792Yes.
>>566557008Yes.
Real Luna gets Ophiuca.CopyLuna gets Brer Rabbit.This way we get double the moon.
>>566557071It was double peace
>>566553571Because she already has a wizard and Ophiuca never particularly represented her as a character, unlike Taurus who still totally worked as a representation of Bud. Plus a 2nd artificial wave change would be cool and she's like technically waves or some shit maybe if they remember that
>>566562016>timeskip>everyone grows except Luna
Do you think Gunvolt would say an Oversurge line when having sex? Do adepts say haikus before cooming?
>>566562607Now I'm picturing him doing that while filling up Ouka and it made me chortle.
First time I've ever been compelled to imagine GV giving something the strokes, weird
>>566562016ophiuca represents luna's seductive side, so the ideal solution is for vogue and ophiuca to fuse into a single wizard for luna
>>566564932>Wave changes >Gets a bigger chest >Becomes hornier No wonder she was locked away
>>566562607Asking the important questions.
>>566562016>and Ophiuca never particularly represented her as a characterShe represents Luna's horniness for Megaman
>>566563656>Japanese Electric Batman>having sex
>>566555792Once the fat minos become more and more rare they will.
>>566530549>>566534375Look, Copen and Zonda are just the two faces of genocide. And somehow It is the Copen type of genocide that is socially acceptable and even ecoraged in the real world.
>>566568305Adept/human marriage isn't genocide.
>>566566990Copen is more like Batman, if Batman lynched people.
>>566568820Acura doesn't lynch, he does the valentine's day massacre on a daily basis on adepts doing their day jobs like street sweeper.
First to final form of the Zonda. From evil smirk to dead inside. Which matches her better?
>>566568663I swear this was already posted here.
>>566570127It was. Or a variant of it.
>>566566050>>566564932only works for anime luna imho
>>566547020>>566547647haha...
>>566575739>>566569858They stuck Zonda in the Adept Hunters. One of the responsibilities of the Hunters is to acquire lab subjects for the Science Division. They also assist in experiments when an adept is necessary to protect researchers, restrain test subjects, or if their powers are required for the experiment. Depending on how much info flows back to her through her projections, that might explain why she's so screwed up in GV2, and why she never softened on her anti-minos stances. She was working with some of the worst of the worst. Can you just imagine what it'd be like for Zonda, who is young and highly empathetic, to have to participate in that stuff to maintain her cover?
>>566576617I know that the hunters work the most closely with the science division from the wiki, but wouldn't they pull people like Viper from the security department to restrain adepts and protect scientists, or do they just guard facilities?
>>566568663Is that what she told Copen?
>>566576452Is that a haha no to both days or an approval haha
>>566577587In the iX2 timeline, yes.
Akiba Maid War game is real.
>>566571248It suits game luna too, its just not as obvious as the anime
>>566579827Too based for nu-inti.
Molesting Prez in her sleep
>>566576617If that was intended, it would have come up in her dialogue bashing nonadepts at the end of the game. Gunvolt isn't that subtle.
>>566584042
>>566584042Prez upset because she kept dropping the thickest hints and Geo picked up on zero of them.
>>566578742no to thurssun should be fine if we can move it up to end by 21 UTC
>>566586539possible to start at 18 UTC
>>566586967acceptable terms
>>566586539fine by me, any hour is good bunshin hour
>>566587443>>566587697tri-squad formed...
>GV1: When lightning strikes, a new legend is born.>GV2: In the face of turmoil, a path towards hope beckons.>GV3: What lies beyond the path toward hope?The motifs of the different Gunvolt games that plaster each of the games' homepages and trailers. What were they smoking when they said GV2 is bleak, but hopeful? And I guess the answer to GV3's question is a big reset.
>>566590231>>GV3: What lies beyond the path toward hope?Xiaoposting and white woman memes.
>>566590231>What were they smoking when they said GV2 is bleak, but hopeful? GV2 is sarcastic. Best example is Zonda's Jap stage blurb:>The Guiding Light That Shines Upon the Oppressed>The Shrine Maiden of Salvation—Her Name Is Panthera>A lone girl offers a prayer for peace.There's a lot of irony.>Kills Mytyl>Kills Joule>Wants genocide>Begins song to empower and frenzy adepts>Tries to kill GV or CopenNot a lot of peace or salvation.
>>566569858Left is hotter
>>566591876>>566569858They gave her, Joule, and Lumen the same eye shape. Very lame move. Zonda's eyes were iconic. Some people say art style changes, but Layla and Kirin have distinct eyes. It's probably because they want Zonda to look more like an evil version of Joule.
>>566592428I think Zonda has bushier lashes, but yeah, the number and positions of the lash points are the same now. Weird. Gunvolt prides itself on having major characters that you can strip of hair, clothing, and color, and still be able to tell who is who, and a lot of that comes down to everyone having unique eye designs. If they ever decide to reuse her again, I hope it was just a mistake.
>>566593198>think Zonda has bushier lashesLumen has thick eyelashes too. Zonda and her have the same eyes now. You can't say it's just art style changes, because all the characters in the GV3 artstyle still have unique eyes.
>>566592428She needs to actually be evil first.
>>566593438So evil her reality was rejected.
>>566593647And yet kirin never had to go fix the Pantera timeline. Curious!
>>566594013Because there will never be a Pantera timeline. Her reality is rejected.
You'll just have to accept that if real Zonda ever shows up again, she's going to look like Mytyl and Joule. All the modern art of her always has her with the same eye styles and facial expressions as these two. She doesn't even get the slanted villain eyes anymore, but the cute droopy one. The only thing that hints at her alignment are her dull eyes, which doesn't actually tell you shit in modern Gunvolt.
>>566594530>>566594013Her plan would fall apart because most adepts aren't on board the race war crap. Many have nonadept family who they love very much.Also, there would be no way to beat her once she got control over her octima, and it would be OOC for her to pick a fight with Kirin and Gunvolt anyway.
>>566594894Her plan would "fall apart" because there'd be no mass minos extermination and so peaceful coexistence can finally happpen.
>>566594894>once she got control over her octimaShe only gets that octima when she takes in the muse and effectively Joule's soul. She's never getting that control.
>>566595067>>566594894No, it would lead to chaos as adept warlords run rampant. There would be no utopia. And then Zonda would get very upset.>>566595223Yes, we know, Arc of the Covenant plot.
>>566595321She wanted the genocide to stop, it stops. Simple as.>but we live in agent aika/najica blitz tactics/maid wars/senran kagura/queen's blade/[insert further ecchi here] now!Good.
>>566594894>there would be no way to beat her once she got control over her octimaI have yet to see someone with an octima outsmart a bullet
>>566593438lol did we even play the same game? you people are delusional? just beat this last week and people here trying to gaslight me just because they think evil little girl is cute.
>>5665964638-4.
>8-4 again
>>566590231I like the tag Inti recently used on twitter to market the GV trilogy.>Exterminate all adepts to create a brighter futureThis is Copen's series. Everyone else is just living in it.
>>566596674>kill Mytyl kill Roro leave the actual demon alive though she coolWhat even is his thought process?
>>566596764Kurona correction will come eventually, don't worry
>>566595223You're basing your entire argument off a single angry line Gunvolt's made to Zonda. Gunvolt gets shit wrong all the fucking time.>>566596463For the original JP script, in the first pic, she just says she'll defeat him and take back the shards. There's no sadism attached. Second pic is almost entirely fabricated. She just says mirror pieces imbued with diva power, come to my side. Nothing about destroying the world. What the fuck? Fourth pic, she says that she will become a Goddess only if that's what people want. Why did the do this to her?
>>566596674Link? I can't find the tweet.
didn't know the soul stealing was a translation thing and not a plot thing
>>566596764>leave the actual demon alive though she coolYah, she made him like this. Suck on that, Shinobu!
>>566597034They probably did it because they needed to sell the idea she needed to be grand streissered to westerners beyond "GV angry OVERSURGE!".
>>566597034I'm not even touching the dialogue when I'm saying she got rejected.
>>566597063>literal demon on his shoulder >angry and irrational all the time >demon goes away>chill againwhat did they mean by this
>the officially endorsed english localization that even the creator is satisfied with isn't good enough>I need the contextual based original language so I can sit and argue semantics for 10 years and make up my own headcanon about the events
>>566597052https://x.com/denfaminicogame/status/2051638239312884040
>>566597365They said that the original GV1 translation was good enough until Papa translated it for free.
how about a translation that's endorsed by no one
>>566597251Shinobu was right.
>>566597494Thanks, anon. >すべての能力者を討滅し明るい未来をMeh, I guess you could translate it like that.
>>566597365Yeah, sure.It's not even internally consistent characterization. Zonda in the 8-4 translation doesn't give a shit about Tenjian and is just manipulating him, but her last unsubbed words are clearly crying out for him. Even if you're not that much of a weeb, you can still pick out oniisama cried out in anguish.
>>566597145Defeats the entire purpose of her character and the last section of the game.
>>566597365Yeah, official TLs and localizations are never wrong.
>>566597920I don't think we need to talk about 'internal consistency' in a series that jumped 60+ years into the future in the 3rd game, forgot everything that happened previously, and ruined its own titular character.Zonda's actions are just rooted in logic, manipulation, and a lack of empathy. She's an intellectual, ominous and detached threat who made very calculated decisions. Not a woobified schoolgirl pushed into doing something she'd rather not.
>internal consistency>IntiPick one(1)(uno)
>>566598387INTI woobified her themselves with Eden's Party and retconning her into a figurehead with little actual power.
>>566598387Even when we're talking about GV2 you make it about GV3...>Zonda's actions are just rooted in logic, manipulation, and a lack of empathy. She's an intellectual, ominous and detached threat who made very calculated decisions.8-4.
>>566598387GV3 actually cares a great deal about what happened in the other games as far as GV himself is concerned. As far as the setting, yeah, not much mattered outside of GV ending the world for his fuck ups.
>>566598636It's hilarious, because Zonda is actually terrible at manipulation in the side story. She succeeds by being overwhelmingly genuine, like to the point it weirds people out. Her projections are great at it, though.
thread>>566599001>>566599001
