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The Wheel has turned once again

Waifus Will Save Us edition

Dominions is a fantasy turn-based war game created by two dudes. One of them is a teacher.
The game combines a simple presentation with an extremely wide array of strategic options, including over 3400 units, 1100 spells and 400 magic items. Turns are resolved simultaneously, with players planning battles rather than directly controlling them. It has simplistic graphics but is easily moddable and extremely deep.
Basically, it's an autist’s wet dream of a war game.

>Our pastebin (extremely outdated)
https://pastebin.com/wjbSA98Y

>Steamgroup
https://steamcommunity.com/groups/vanheimageofvidya

>Multiplayer guide/game hosting services
>Hinaserver https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/548312356/#548526452
https://hinaserver.net
>Blitzserver
https://blitzserver.net
(Dom 6)
https://beta.blitzserver.net/games
>Llamaserver:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=1212948582

>Documentation
https://illwinter.com/dom6/docs.html

>Tools
>Mod inspector
https://larzm42.github.io/dom6inspector/
>Wiki
https://illwiki.com/
>Pretender calculator
https://zollqir.github.io/pretenders-dom6/
https://caleb-distributive.github.io/pretenders-dom6/ (website down?)
>Debug mod
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3083231618
>Communion fatigue calculator (still dom5)
https://instacalc.com/53495
>Automatically prevent starts in all provinces with less than X connections (still dom5)
https://nixx.is-fantabulo.us/dom5ranmapnos/

>How do I change the fonts?
Replace guifont.ttf, guifont_fancy.ttf and guifont_texty.ttf in the game's 'data' folder (C:\Steam\steamapps\common\Dominions6\data)

>Fan art
https://thronebooru.booru.org

>Sloop’s Comfy Balance Mod
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1zeDyK8Zb_p4lIJ0yp3a3ikMprRkmBCWvy31_4jBen3Q/edit?usp=sharing

>other asynchronous strategy games
Solium Infernum.

Previous Pantokrator
>>565308213
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Good night /domg/
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>finally get a decent scheme
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Soon we will have to move to /vst/...
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Boksi when's the game?
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You guys, rlg, and sg are the only true tendies left
everyone else has been thrown into the void
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>>566216927
So it seems.
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Any new news?
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>>566219421
nein, except for coe
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Disintegrated...
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>>566133565
Thank you for this
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Do your si turns pls
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>>566215569
Awaken sleeper
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How the fuck is Belphegor choking out mammon's stronghold? They arent even at war!!!!
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Burden of Times
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>>566215569
good morning
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>>566216219
Well, at least we need to stay alive on /vg/ for one more divegrass cup.
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>>566242692
Fair
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>>566226148
Can it kill him
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>>566226148
Because his towers are broken like that and he's already preparing to build another one.
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Tell me about C'tis.
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>>566250698
>>566250698
No but it leaves it at 1hp. He cant attack the stronghold either without being excommunicated by attacking pandaemonium or getting into a blood feud (win 2-3 vendettas against them).
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>>566251031
Holy lel
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>>566250961
Which era?
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>>566253549
EA.
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>>566254187
Well generally a bless isn't worth it but they do have the strongest recruitable death mages of the era
a dracolich reforming build isn't hard to do
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By the Tyrant Lilith, do ur fagging turn
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>>566254187
all in on serpent dancers
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News on mods, maps, nations?
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Another turn of the wheel...
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>>566257685
how are they flying
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/domg/ is reclining...
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>>566259701
winged shoes
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someone host a new game pls
preferably ma
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Sex with dryads
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>>566257685
me in the background
>>566259174
kek
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>>566216443
First game will be on the 29th, we don't have the exact times yet because the pots haven't been drawn.

Also, after some consideration, I think it makes sense to have a roster poll this time too. There have been two suggestions and I feel like we might want a SI rep as well. If you have any other ideas for players to put on the team, feel free to suggest them.
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>>566263014
Sex with goatmen.
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>>566259776
crannog ys...
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>>566256953
In progress, trust the plan. ;)
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>>566256953
its only the last one that matters, but illwinter is playing with COE and T&T
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>>566275501
Bro it’s been a decade, I can’t live on this copium they’ll eventually release T&T.
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>>566261391
I join a MA
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End of Culture
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Post that thug "type" chart, you know the one.
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>>566226148
Belphegor is like MA Ermor or R'lyeh. Everyone should slap his shit
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>>566256953
it will take a bit, but if I just rip the chibi sprites from the games, it's possible
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>>566226148
Lel just ask his fatass for money and slap his shit
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>>566226148
insult him for free prestige!
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Is holding a bunch of cantons worth it besides for area denial?
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>>566250961
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Why is EA better than MA or LA?
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what's our thread birthday btw
/rlg/ does it
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LARp Pythium, your last again...
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>>566289363
We've been around since 2013 based on the /tg/ archives
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>>566289363
I don't know. Archives go back to 2019, you would have to dig up old stuff somehow, from dead fireden /vg/ archives or something. I am not sure if /domg/ predates /vg/ and was on /v/ back then.
>>566290823
Wait, on /tg/?
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>>566287792
There is at least one even that gives you a certain amount of prestige per canton you control
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>>566291213
https://wiki.archiveteam.org/index.php/4chan
https://archive.4plebs.org/_/articles/credits/
Finding out this shit would not be easy. Best hope some fossil anon is still here and remembers how it started.
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>>566291782
>>566291817
Well this thread seemed to have been the oldest big Dominions thread, a /tg/ one dated November 18, 2013 that seemed to have preceded /domg/ by a year
https://suptg.thisisnotatrueending.com/archive/2013/28362785/
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>>566292293
Maybe, but it really depends on what you count as a start of a general. Random long threads on /tg/ or /v/. General on /v/ when generals were a thing there. Or first /vg/ thread. I think for me it would be when it started to be a proper general at least on /v/, called general too, maybe. Or at least close to culture it would transplant on /vg/ general.
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>>566292661
sadly all the old /vg/ records before 2019 are not avaialble :(
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>>566295056
They might be >>566291817 as info I linked suggests, but you would have to dig for it. So yeah...
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>>566292293
A November birthday is fine
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>>566287792
Area control is already pretty important. Means no one can station dangerous shit right next to you, and you can place your own dangerous stuff closer to an opponent. In a vendetta, being closer to the opponent means they have to play defensive or risk easily losing a site. In a blood feud it can quickly lead to death.
Also, land is safety. You can assert someone's weakness if they have no cantons (or no more than 2?). That allows you to throw a vendetta at them because fuck them, weaklings don't deserve to have their own stronghold.
Also that one event anon says that gives you a prestige point per canton which I'm sitting on right now .
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can unraveling actually make its caster enfeebled? How do I prevent this?
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Bowl of salt
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>>566214845
Give it to me straight, which one is the sexiest unit/commander/pretenderchasis?
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>>566302915
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>>566302915
Tough question. It's a toe to toe race between dryads and Scabiel-chan
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>>566261391
https://hinaserver.net/game/39
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>>566302915
Princesses of the setting sun have that honour
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>>566302915
Statistically it's actually the Manushya Raksharani, which is the sexy form of the Raksharani pretender chassis, which has an extra +1 to her seduction.
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Contact tanuki
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Yo admin, Blitzserver has been fucking nuts today and I couldn't do my turn yet, but I have to go to bed.
I should stale in about 8 hours... I have to catch a plane in the morning and won't be able to get the turns in before that, though. Would be nice if we can get an extension. 12 hours will do.
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>>566312216
Inshallah, it will be done.
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>>566313503
thankee
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>>566292293
It's because of this thread I'm playing Dominion today.

>>566302915
See pic.
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Do your SI turn!!!
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>>566316626
I'm glad you liked it
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Shit, i got the grossgermania scheme for bloatexpansion of my cantons
Eh, could be worse
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what's the easiest scheme to complete?
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>>566321774
Probably the complete a manuscript ones. Or cast x ritual if you are higher level than others right now
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>>566322207
aye
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Has anyone played the merchant prince class in CoE?
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>>566323479
spam sasssins
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don't die while i go destroy this endless bag of wine /domg/
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is there a good way to level up your troops besides legion to legion combat?
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>>566329119
There are events. There are items that lower the victories required. Striders can be farmed until a certain point (level 3 or 4 cant remember).
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>>566214845
Seggs with zotz
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bEAst_slop can i haz extension
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>>566332971
Added 24h
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Thx goodmin
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Do
Turns
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>>566337828
Not doing a turn is the biggest turn of all
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>>566292293
>Hmm, sent a trio of mound fiends to try to Control the Dead it, they decided to spam raise dead before running away, did cast Control the Dead three times however
11 years of mageaiposting.
Incredible.
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>>566338840
Dom 3 was a special time
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Hi, im a newbie, started playing since barely a year ago, anyways pale ones rock ass.

Also, should this and the other threads be centered around other illwinter stuff like coe?
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>>566341029
We do along with Solium Infernum
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>>566341146
whats solium infernum?
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>>566341275
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1893810/Solium_Infernum/

neat game that's more diplo focused
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>>566341720
will have to check it out, thank you!
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>>566341275
like dominions but in hell
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What are you guys thoughts on dominions enhanced?
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>>566342006
We're playing a game of it right now! I'm sure there will be another one soon after it ends. I was shilled it by this thread and am enjoying it.
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>>566342421
Havent tried it yet.I took a break from playing shortly before it release and have only joined games from here which havent had it in a few weeks that I've been back
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>>566342905
Its pretty fun, you might like it if you like the idea of a vanilla-esque mod that has a lot of bonus content, although it might not be balanced for multiplayer use, i only play singleplayer
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>>566343172
I only enjoyed single player when I didnt know how to play. To me it's annoying now because the AI either cheat too much by spamming chaff or roll over because they cant script good fights
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>>566342421
It's fun but changes the gameplay drastically
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Oh shit ersebetz has a diplo action that lets you team up and even support each other's armies that's crazy.
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>>566342421
would appreciate if the dev divided the mod; like "Dominions Enhanced - Spells", as there's certain aspects of the mod I don't like.
I really only got the mod for the increased amount of spells.
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Did this anon make any other curis?
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>>566346743
TRUE. I like spell diversity but I dont want to relearn the entire game. What else did they change that you dont like.
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>>566348039
They changed many nations, some more and some less. I'm sure that for the people who have a nation they play all the time, having a huge mod like this change it to a point where it plays completely differently hits the hardest.
I personally love Ermor and though the mod doesn't drastically change the nation, I just don't like the little change it does.
#domkill 10
#fortcost 25
#templecost 750
#nationinc -20
Very minor but it rubs me the wrong way.
But it's not just the nation changes. Many pretenders were altered as well. I would much rather the pretender changes, nation changes, and even spell changes all be in a separate mod.
Speaking of which, I HATE mods that are meant to add a ton of spells alter the vanilla spells. No one cares about "a new flavorful overhaul yadayada" just add new spells and make a different mod to change the spells already there!
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>>566348729
There are many other changes I didn't mention.
And to clarify, when I said "minor" I meant "few lines"
#domkill 10
from
#domkill 50
Is very not minor
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Gnight domg
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>>566346756
this was drawn in a more optimistic and happy time for dominions 6
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I weep for the days of yore
When /domg/ was awash with life
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>>566357803
its important to visualize the as-yet unreleased merrow nation
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>>566357803
Discord is better
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Trying to upload the fleamarket map (from dreamatlas) and hinaserver is just saying bad map. Any ideas? It opens fine in dominions and the zip is the right structure
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>>566359837
Did you zip it?
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>>566360137
>Did you zip it?
Ok I see you said you did. This is what my zipped map looked like when I hosted like a year ago.
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>>566360328
No top level folder underneath the zip? Thats what the instructions seem to say (I tried both and its still saying invalid map)
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>>566360813
Not working for me either I just tried it. It may be incompatible with hinaserver for now.
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>>566357803
By the rivers of Desura we sat and wept when we remembered Llama. There on the spam folders we hung our 2h files...
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>>566357803
la /domg/ is a popkill nation
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>>566342421
Agree with third anon. Cool mod, massive overhaul but far more invasive than Sloops. I started playing with Sloops almost immediately, the second I saw Divinitus’ Great Creator, I started playing with that mod, the second I figured out Nationgen, I made 50 nations, etc.
I played DE once and will play it again in a few hundred hours, because the changes and additions to the Spellbook are so massive that, no matter how cool the new nations are, I can’t play it until I master vanilla Magic
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>>566357803
The board has moved on
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>>566364353
illwinter moved on first
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>>566365468
What do you mean?
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>>566365815
Shillwinter sits on T&T instead of releasing it!!
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whats T&T
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>>566367318
Trade and Taint, their weird CoE lite
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More like trade your taint...
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Hina prepare yourself
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FOMORIA OF DISCIPLES GAME WHERE ART THOU
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>>566259174
very funny, maybe it should have drain instead of deathscale tho
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>>566259174
Hah based I didnt read the description first time I saw this
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Black Servant
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>>566313503
Thanks m8
Things went smoothly, I'll send in the turn in like an hour
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>>566373664
Nigger Servant
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Is there a way to contact the hinaserver admin besides github
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>>566375128
Email hina at hinaserver dot net.
You should throw your map onto catbox or whatever other file host so I can download it and figure out what's up. I am starting to realise that I am a little too picky with maps
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>it's another 'MA Man dominates the lobby because peoples idea of countering KoA is by throwing more shit at them and suffering a 5:300 ratio of losses'

They didn't even put resistances on the bless
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>>566380801
I wish there was an [expendable] tag where losses of that particular unit don't count towards morale or hp rout (as much). Would make quantity based nations much more viable
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Legion of Wights
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>>566379184
Thanks, wasn't sure how often you would be checking here. No need to email then: https://files.catbox.moe/mstt9b.zip
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Also to whoever joined as Atlantis to flea_market you're getting the boot, maps been genned and the nations were specified in the gen (plus only one UW is shit).
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>>566382315
Fixed, it was choking on DreamAtlas's metadata
https://hinaserver.net/maps/37
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Belphegor you fat fuck, do your turn!!!
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>>566381042
Mindless. Slaves too, but slaves dying makes slaves rout
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>>566381042
Pleeeeeease. People have been asking for the tag for years but it's never put into the game. Soulless are completely and utterly useless in every conceivable way. They're horribly weak, you get a bazillion of them, you can't get rid of them because a couple stacks at the spear of your army can make your entire army of 1000 other troops rout so you have to keep them in the rear to prevent them from dying, and worst of all: they're an eyesore. Can't stand getting flash-banged every time I open up the barracks page.
I hate them so much it's unreal. Ghouls are better and that's just embarrassing.
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>>566384419
I was being a little facetious when I said the entire army of 1000 other troops. I mean to say they make all the commanders of 10,000 other troops rout which is the worst feeling seeing as they're literally as safe as can be behind thousands of undead. I hate this system
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>>566384419
they're good for siege bonuses
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>>566384419
I agree Sceleria needs a buff
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>>566385730
Forgot they existed...was talking about Ermor
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>>566385730
No but warhammer orcs do ;_;
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>>566383936
Thanks! Will strip it out next time if it hasn't been fixed by then
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flEA_market started, gl

Let me know if I fucked something up
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>>566389853
I fucked up and uploaded an "omniscience" version (why the fuck is this a default?).

We're going to have to go back to submission
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My good starting research spread...
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>>566390456
Never mind, everyones pretender still seems to be there.

This is why I never host shit
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BEL!!!!
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>>566390763
>>566390456
>>566389853
Ok, hopefully fixed and rehosted!!
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>>566391945
Thankee
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>>566391945
thank you sir
can't wait to bludgeon someone to death by turn 16
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>>566384419
mindless units already count very little for HP rout calculations, something like 10% of their total hp rather than 100%. this is why you have to be careful to not bring too many ghouls as ermor because those are what will hp rout you
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>>566392802
Is def 6 that much a difference?
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>>566393868
Attack and Defense win fights, Strength and Health make the fight more interesting
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>>566393868
defense has multiple counters like being harassed down and missile attacks but when you have enough of it in melee combat you just parry basically everything
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>>566397420
can you parry projectiles?
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>>566393868
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>>566400076
So it means def bonus return on investment is better on units with shit defense to start with. Interesting.
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>>566399692
with a shield
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>>566391945
>no vanilla mapgen giving 1-2 water nations 30% of the map as ocean
>no water nations at all, actually
Thinking this lobby is blessed, thanks goodmin
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>>566400076
interesting
no wonder why cav is so gud
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>>566403191
One even tried to sneak in and goodmin kicked him out!
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LARP Pythium Abyssia Atlantis, less then 1 and a half hour, do your turns or
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Belphegor you fat fucking chud
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>>566400574
nah, if you go from 10 DEF weaker than attacker ATK, to 4, then you went from 95% chance of being hit, to 76% chance to be hit

but if you go from -4 to -10 (4 better to 10 better DEF) then you went from 18% to 3% and you're now 6x tankier against melee
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belphegor stop huffing your fucking braps and get back into game!!!!
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>>566413824
So berserkers are cooked, got it
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>>566413616
sorry will do in a minute
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Thank you belphegor
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>>566400574
Not really. Statistics are extremely unintuitive. You often need to reverse them to make sense of them.
Generally, this kind of bonus is more effective the higher it gets, because what's important here isn't the chance to hit, but the percentage CHANGE of the defender's chance to avoid damage as the bonus increases.
A flat +5 percentage points to dodge looks the same across a range. 50% to dodge to 55% to dodge can feel like it's the same upgrade as 90% to dodge to 95% to dodge. But 50% to 55% means you're reducing your average received damage per turn by 10%, while 90% to 95% is a 50% reduction.

>assuming a particular opponent deals 10 damage per turn

>50% to dodge = 50% to get hit, aka 5 average damage received per turn
>55% to dodge = 45% to get hit, aka 4,5 average damage received per turn
>apply % change calculation formula: (4,5-5)/5 = -10%, aka 10% less damage per turn
>if you were surviving 10 rounds on average, now you can expect to survive 11

>90% to dodge = 10% to get hit, aka 1 average damage received per turn
>95% to dodge = 5% to get hit, aka 0,5 average damage received per turn
>apply % change calculation formula: (0,5-1)/1 = -50%, aka 50% less damage per turn
>if you were surviving 10 rounds on average, now you can expect to survive 20
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>>566419514
Got curious
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Longdeads.
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>>566413824
>>566419514
Thanks a lot for the explanation, that was unintuitive (at least for me) indeed. Still trying to wrap my head around the process you used to obtain the final results (I understand the maths but not necessarily the technique), I had forgotten how bad I was at probabilities.

Which may explain why I kind of suck at designing blesses.
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>>566428750
Gotchu bae
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Life for a life
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>>566431867
Thanks, appreciated. Now watch me as I become 7% more powerful thanks to the power of maths.
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>>566431867
Holy moly, thanks!!
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Who the fuck played this leviathan, it took me two turns to cap this site!!!!
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>>566438319
Just cap it back skeleman
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>>566438898
I'm scared of it running into my army and killing it cause im in the way
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>>566441176
>mfw I just unlocked Forged Orders
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Summon Ghosts
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It looks like the leviathan is confused
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https://streamable.com/nz4ntv
>Astaroth moving and painting the entire map red for some reason
>Leviathan went in a circle away from my site of power just to buttfuck mammon instead
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>>566456535
It's a secret
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>>566456535
someone call the host pls
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gnight /domg/
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Ghost Grip
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OK, I TURNT. GAME 39 ON HINA SERVER, "AKA" flEA_market

i DOUBLED btw
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Dust to dust
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>>566467479
Ew a romeaboo
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>>566456535
Finally it's heating up
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Does killing the leviathan give any cool rewards
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>>566475754
I have never seen someone kill it idk. I do know that two can be active at the same time though lol
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Gifts from Heaven
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Is spritegen in the latest version of nationgen broken or am I just retarded?
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>>566475754
Prestige
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>>566485310
K
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Are we dead?
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>>566493236
I totally forgot therodos was in this game
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Control the Dead
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do ur turn slut and skele
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Does elemental resistance not lower damage by double the res value percent anymore?
I did some testing for attacking a throne with spring hawks and while the 15SR lowered their damage to -9, it didn't further cut down the damage after the roll.
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>>566503589
It still does iirc



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