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>Latest patch:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/04-30-2026-update.129989/

>Steam Page:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/

>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/

>How do I git in?
Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.

>How do I git gud?
Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.

Additional Resources:
>Unofficial Wiki
https://deadlock.wiki/
>Collection of useful character builds
https://deadlockmeta.com/
>New Player Guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/
>Advanced Movement Guide
https://www.dlmovement.wiki/
>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)
https://statlocker.gg/
https://tracklock.gg/
>Unofficial Competitive News
https://edl.gg/
>Unofficial Voiceline Viewer
https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/

Threadlocked: >>566148462
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Silver's sweaty boots after wearing no socks and bounty hunting all day.
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https://steamcommunity.com/profiles/76561199139376135/
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>>566218663
(this is me) invite me please
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>>566218783
>>566218663
Sent :)
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i love victor
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how do you go from this
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>>566218936
I don't get other Rem players that do this, I would have immediately gone to the shop and spent that shit. It's too risky to be walking around with that much cash.
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>>566219282
to this
is valve's math retarded?
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>>566218936
YES
THAT'S MY GIRL
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>>566218936
Once again, the remchad has to cleanup the jungle because nobody else does...
And died because nobody helped him...
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>>566218936
i hope they don't get rid of the comically large bags popping out if they make patron specific models
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My best performance as Venator, unfortunately I'm not good enough to save stupid.
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Silver needs buffs
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>>566219589
Shoes off buff.
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Not every game is winnable. Also, what the fuck is the matchmaker doing? Why was I in an Archon 6 game? I *WAS* oracle 4 before this match, but I deranked because apparently the matchmaker was testing my ability to swim with five fucking lead weights chained to my ankles.
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>>566219447
BROWN HANDS TYPED THIS
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>>566218628
You know she never cleans them
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>>566219282
>>566219447
It's minus 50 based on the actual cooldown time, not the reduced cooldown time dumbass
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>>566219447
fucking retard lol
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>Buff Silv-AAAAACCCCCKKKK!!!!
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>>566219684
Duh, she just kicks her boots off and passes out.
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>>566218628
You ever tried strenuous exercise with no socks on? Your feet are going to get torn to shreds.
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>>566219654
>That Shiv build
The fuck was he thinking not running infuser!?
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>>566219589
Fertility buff. Giving her a big litter.
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>>566219662
>>566219707
>>566219782
concession accepted
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>>566219858
No, because i'm not an idiot. Plus she has regenerative ability.
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>celeste player is dogshit and only gets kills with her ult
>acts like she's good at the game
Ult reworked when
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I need silver to asphyxiate me with her in heat, massive, dripping wet and insanely plump fortune cookie and I need it now
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>>566219926
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>>566219796
still warm, it'll do
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>>566220025
I'm trans btw
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>>566220025
This but she needs to start in her human form and getting aggressively drunk and sad before transforming
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Shiv main here, what does sex feel like?
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>>566220265
Mina main here, it feels like having cock up your ass
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>>566220265
salt coins and bags of milk
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Does anyone have the Lash gun build from last nightshift?
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>>566220265
I'm trans btw if that matters
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>>566220108
>soijak poster
>mobile

Exposed
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>>566220265
Paige main here, it feels like having dog cock up your ass
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>>566220265
Copper milk coins and bags
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>>566220025
based
>>566220234
based
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>>566220517
>everyone else energetically moving on to the next objective
>silver's passed out drunk on the sewer floor again
Just when is she going to sober up? This is getting out of hand....
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>>566220493
Yeah, what are you gonna do about it SISSY? Gonna cum a little?
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>>566220265
I didn't like it desu
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>>566220736
Same poster too, jesus fucking christ
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>want to play abrams
>get ridiculously outranged from practically everyone
>CC stops you dead in your tracks
>unselect abrams
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fuck flask
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>>566221412
abrams kind of fucking sucks right now.
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>>566221412
juggernaut, returnfire, rune on charge, phantom strike, warpstone
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>>566221303
The man replying to you is... the man you replied to?????
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>>566220265
drifter main here, why don't you hit the streets tonight and find out for yourself?
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>>566221645
mirage: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEP-13Z0zC8
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>>566221642
oh I need to invest 10 trillion before he goes online huh? yeah man totally worth it
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Sex with Venator
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>>566221932
>the frontliner has to put his investments on survival and not dumping everything into damage
WOAH!
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linken sphere doko?
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>>566222145
>invest tens of thousands of souls to survive an extra 3 seconds
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>>566222340
Sorry you suck retard
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>drifter players when the objective is to molest children:
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>>566221412
even though the minimum falloff range is 17m, his gun is impossible to use when firing at anything further than like 12m
you'll whiff so many shots due to spread and you'll whiff even more against small profile heroes
his gun is way too weak for how close you're forced to play against other heroes who can light you up at 30m with ease
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>>566222458
Yuh he straight diddy blud fr fr
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>jewish hero never
Jew bros its not fair... where is our representation...
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>>566221412
>>566221642
try to build that kinda stuff on abrams, use gun instead of melee and spamm your 1 for infinite sustain and dmg instead of melee.
its pretty strong
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gut warden
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>>566222861
forgot pic
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No guys you don't get it, THIS support character is allowed to have the best teamfight ability in the game AND face fuck you when it's on cooldown too
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ENCHANT EMBLEM UPGRADE WHEN
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>dare to use light melee on an enemy for the first time in the game
>frame perfect instant parry
Parries should have a 5 frame wind up
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>>566223287
Yes, fuck off miss lane wide scaling rape bomb
you can fucking jump over his stomp
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Every Silver I fight acts like a rabid animal spamming heavy melee and getting BTFO for it every time.
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>lose an alchemist 1 game
>next game is ritualist 4
Thanks, Gabe
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>>566223287
Gee, sure wish I had that Dynamo on my team.
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ITS WALLBRAEKER VICTOR TIME BABYEE

*feeds 20 kills*
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>>566223417
Building spirit is dishonest on most heroes
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Sometimes you got to be a push bot and destroy objs.
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>>566221412
>implying your phantom strike charge is reactable in any way
>if they are somehow reacting you buy shadow weave for even more instant rape
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>>566224079
if you build gun and don't win, that means you fucking suck because if you could hit your shots, you'd just win. Gun is godtier unbeatable if you can aim atm. So you just fucking suck and should kill yourself in real life.
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>six loss streak
>every match has multiple double digit feeders on my team
I'm getting fucking demoralized.
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>>566224190
Chin up, your mandated win streak is coming. It always comes.
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>>566224102
>Clear lane all the way to the enemy base super early
>The moment you leave to clear another your lane gets completely wiped cause nobody will stop the 2 dudes except you
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>>566224170
Bro...
Why are you even playing this game if you hate the gunplay?
Go play dota or smth
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>>566224443
to rape gun niggers to death with blackhole
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>>566223413
>dash at enemy
>no parry
>start heavy melee and swerve away
>no parry
>light melee once after several seconds of being next to them and shooting and no indication that I would melee
>instantly frame perfect parried
Yeah man I'm sure no one in this game auto-parries
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the deadlock official discord is so strange. i refuse to believe these people are real. when is shiv getting a remodel
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So wtf are you supposed to do against this hero? ye i got metal skin
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have you ever had a 70% hs rate in a game before?
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>>566224585
curse, disarm, slow, etc
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>>566224503
Very well, we can try raping each other one day
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>>566224585
Hope it's played by a retarded tranny only on her for the porn and not an autistic tranny on her because they have 9999 hours in aim trainers and the porn.
Also just kite her generally and try to commit as little as possible before she ults and then back off once she does. Unless they're terrible at the game there's no realistic way to prevent her from popping ult unless you're jumping her alone with multiple people and CCing her to death and she can at least 1v2 with the ult into most heroes. She's sort of similar to Apollo where she falls off in the late game so if you're on a m1gger there's your win con.
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>>566218936
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5Kr266UaFA
huuuuge video for /dlg/
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>>566225076
kek
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>buy warp stone as drifter
>mark someone
>teleport behind them
>they turn around
>warp stone behind them
This game needs a teleporter hero with charges.
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i don't why i thought divine barrier was not self castable all that time i got ganked when i could had done something about it
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>>566224662
this vinny had 10 70+ games in a row and never got frogged btw
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>rem on enemy team
>uses helpers on creeps constantly
>rem on my team
>doesn't put a single helper on a creep all game
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>dicta players gloating in street brawl
What is it about this character that attracts the most fatherless people to her?
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>>566224662
arrogant script kiddie shit
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This has happened in all but one of my games today. I heard oracle is elo hell is it just the rank or are people generally leaving games more and more.
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I end most of my games with some of the lowest damage in the match
I'm too busy farming and trying to stop pushes to help my team brool
I can't tell when it stops being a skill issue and it starts to just be a team issue
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Chatgpt does not deal with match making, because AI would be x10 better than these shitty nigger devs and their doing
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How much do you care about your rank?
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>>566226732
I only where i'm at the upper echelon of the rank
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>>566225076
>last one is REM's pov
cinema
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Solo queue support is some torture, goddamn.
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>>566226593
higher rank = worse mental = more leavers, its a true statement for all team games
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>>>566214680
Grey Talon and Vindicta exist.
You can actually build Vindicta as if she was Talon and it works, had a game not long ago where I built full snipe and outdamaged an echo shard Bombop, true sniper Vindicta is viable, but much like the rest of the cast it pales in comparison to her hybrid build.

They did throw her a bone though, even if she lost a usable snowballing effect for spirit nuking -- lightning scroll, recharging rush and the new tankbuster are pretty good options if you wanna go full snipe.
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>>566226732
none really. It only annoys me when im matched way above or with people way below me
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Seventh loss in a row because they won't stop putting genuine fucking neanderthals on my team
>inb4 10 deaths
There are only two types of mina matches, 10+ kills or 10+ deaths, there is no in between
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Why are these people so fucking retarded jesus
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>>566228016
>flipchicken
>fillpino
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>2 curses
>2 healbanes
>1 inhibitor
>1 spirit burn
>1 toxic bullets
how do i kill victor
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>>566228315
You don't, you have to let him kill your objectives for free.
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>>566228315
crippling
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>>566228016
>i have to some times[sic] get[sic] afk becouase[sic] of things in the hause[sic]
these people should be perma'd btw. i can understand the occasional happenstance, but if it happens consistently enough to be penalized then you need to stick to offline games.
it's only 30 god damn minutes, you should not have an emergency every half hour
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>>566227794
I stopped buying mystic shot, I don't know how much value I was getting out of it spending 1.6k instead of saving for boundless or whatever specially since it spends itself even if you miss the shot, feels like a kinetic dash is more value than it that's for sure if we're talking t2 yellows
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>>566228016
>Flipchiken
>"becouase of things in the hause"
Focus on getting out of his mud hut first before playing Deadlock.
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>>566228736
>tankbuster
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>>566228016
im with flipchicken, the guy has a point. i also go afk midgame to smoke my pott
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>>566228736
I'm still pretty new to mina (apparently not as new as all my fucking teammates are to their heroes), so I'm getting baited into buying any and all spirit damage when I should be investing more into survivability. I didn't even buy dispel magic like usual this match, which probably would have cut my deaths down 25-50%.
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>>566228891
Based marijuana marquis
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>>566228828
care to elaborate?
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>>566226732
While I don't care, I started noticing how sweaty some games becoming the more I play. Retards diving under the tower and parrying it, people going full yamakasi parkour when running away.
It's just becoming less fun to play.
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>>566229074
Why is everyone in DLNS going extra regen over healing rite?
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>>566229149
My wives
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>>566229151
cause an enemy just has to plink you once to cancel it.
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>>566229149
The parkour shit is so cringe man. I can immediately spot a smurf by how they hop on the walls for double range you can get normally. They need to fix that so badly. The guy went melee paige and just used movement to run around and embarrass us.
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>indomitable is a really bad for its cost on every character except dynamo. the real value is in the 20% instant cooldown reduction whenever it procs, as characters with very long cooldowns get refunds. stopping one cc every 55 seconds is meaningless
>oracle IV
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>>566226593
I've climbed from seeker to oracle and I can confidently say the amount of mental illness rises exponentially with elo, doesn't help you can end up fighting against a duo lane with some random pre-tilted faggot.
Solo queue would alleviate a lot of suffering, some satanic being that feeds upon the pain of players keeping the power up at valve hq might be the only reason for not implementing it.
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>>566229074
>I'm supposed to care what NIGht shift thinks about items
lol
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>>566229151
Constant value instead of having to hide while regening
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Did they nerf indomitable yet?
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>>566229151
Extra regen builds into a lot of useful stuff, it keeps you in the lane as opposed to hiding to the side. Pro players will see you purchase hr and put a ton of pressure on you to force a single hit.
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>>566229528
Why would they nerf that trash item, seeker-sama
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>>566229151
because regen is a better item, rite is really only good if you're permaroam
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>>566229151
works all the time and as long as you keep the out of combat healing you're actually healing about as much as healing rite because it takes 75 seconds to heal the 300hp from healing rite and rite has a 70 second cooldown
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give me the farm I have a game to lose
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You ever notice how some of the worst heroes in the game are also the most fucking annoying to play against? I'd rather play against seven, dynamo and victor every match than any of these fuckers in pic related
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>>566229528
>twice as many souls to do what counterspell does half as often
It's not that great of an item, alright on CC magnets like Billy or Abrams but super situational and even they'd probably prefer unstoppable
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>>566229394
so you can't argue shitter
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>>566229528
>buys silence wave
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>>566229717
if they just deleted these heroes the game would instantly become twice as fun
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>>566229717
literally how do you find holliday, graves or rem annoying to play against? do you not like free kills?
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>>566229717
Holiday, Miku and Sinclair are rarely an issue, rem is mildly annoying but not that bad, Doorman, Bebop & Heyahoya are very annoying.
Dynamo is also super annoying fym
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>>566228315
Crippling + Curse
Missing health damage
Silver counters Victor somewhat.
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>>566229717
i play 3 of these
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>>566229840
knockups suck to fight against
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>>566229351
Yeah that sounds about right.
The only thing that indom has over unstop is the CDR reduction
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>use enemy holliday's bounce pad
>thanks holliday
???
why am I thanking my enemy
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>>566229840
my elo is somehow high enough that movement holliday players can escape any gank with a single jump pad but not high enough that my teammates will grab sinners before enemy rem does (oracle iv).
>>566229917
dynamo is only annoying because of his power level, when he gets nerfed he'll be fine
>>566230005
krill yourself then
>>566230051
>drops a barrel on your head from the skybox dealing somehow negative damage but killing all of your momentum
>nothing personnel cowpoke
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>>566228315
those only work if the victor is equal souls to your carry
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>>566229840
Holliday is the most annoying hero in the game, troonment should be removed.
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>>566230336
and victor is never equal souls to your carry because your carry is gankable and victor is not
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>>566230051
>dash so I can activate arcane surge as abrams
>niggerday throws a barrel at me and I have to waste another stamina bar
I hate this fucking character so much
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>>566229351
stopping one cc every minute is good on characters who only need to guarantee pressing one button to escape
it's good on mina and pocket
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>>566229840
>Holliday
People always find kidnap abilities annoying regardless of how good they are. Holliday's lasso might be a harder skillshot with less range than bebop hook and 10x the cooldown but that doesn't matter. Personally I don't get caught out of position enough to care about most of these but that's probably what it is.
>Rem and Graves
Free kills but they have infinite lane pressure abilities that make beating them a slog. Laning against rem that rushes helpers and spams them on healing troopers is annoying as fuck.
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>>566230406
false. before 15 minutes victor is very weak and you can see if he has ult up so if he doesn't just run at him if he shows himself and he'll fall behind. unfortunately many people don't do this because they've been conditioned to fear him
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Why isn't there any spirit scaling on sandblast, mo krill feel like they've been neglected for a while.
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>>566230491
why would victor ever not have ult up before the endgame? every victor uses ult maybe once in lane phase then at 8-10min disappears to farm in complete safety on his side of the map. even if you do gank him, by the time he resurrects his team is there, so either you die or you escape and he just keeps farming.
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>>566230701
Mo used to be a real character and now he does nothing but be a hard counters for characters that rely on healing in lane.
Only time I see Mo actually do anything currently is when he lanes against Victor, Abrams or Shiv and he stops doing anything the moment they unlock ult.
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>>566230714
because he's a weak laner and you should be able to kill him or at least pop his ult in lane? if he never comes back to lane then it's also fine because jungle farm is much slower than lane farm at all stages of the game
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>>566229151
The heal is very consistent. Healing Rite is better for roaming though because of sprint speed, only reason why I don't buy extra regen if I plan to roam.
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>all purple book wyrm Paige
?
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they should give mo&krill ult execute
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Is lane pushing rem a thing?
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>We rape you now!
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>>566231018
it's one of his three main gimmicks, unfortunately only works in pisslow where people have no macro
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Haze is Missing
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>>566229840
I wish Holliday was a free kill if they aren't retarded the hero is near impossible to catch. I've been playing gun Lash lately and trying to shoot at a Holliday while grapping to them while they air strafe and wall jump spikes my blood pressure 200%.
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>>566231174
>YOU WILL BE JUD.........ACK!!!
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>>566231172
That's where i am so...great!
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How much spirit res is appropriate, I try to aim for at least 30% by midgame but idk if that's a good target or not.
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yea she can be killed by a light breeze..good luck actually catching her though
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZD3fAIKH-y8

This shit is audio crack, it made me feel how I felt about TF2 music. I haven't felt that in years man.
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is slork the choice of hero for a le redditor?
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Why so smurfs always hard camp brigde?
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>>566231435
Don't really worry about it desu
It's nice to have but so many random items give it and health outsxales spirit damage so much that there's not much point to worrying about it unless some gigafed spiritnuker is running the lobby.
Just focus on your own damage.
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>>566231790
thats dynamo
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>>566231435
none if you're behind build damage
also none if the enemy carries are gun, get plated armor/metal skin/jug instead
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>>566230935
dont ignore this post god dammit
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>>566232198
I don't owe you shit, nigga
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>>566232272
ty for not ignoring my posts
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>>566232330
no prob bud
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make magic carpet work like boots of travel 2 as alt cast
fixed you're game
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Are there scripts for instantly dropping of a zipline to prevent stuns? I saw a guy making a really fucking suspicious instant drop.
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The new Toxic Bullets icon makes me think of pic related
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i dont really care about gitting gud but it would be nice if valve put the one tricks with way play time on my team once in a while
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>>566232659
you can just drop before you even "attach" to the zipline for speed
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>>566232659
Stop shooting people dropping from the zipline, and start shooting people when they've just attached to the zipline and are flying up.
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>>566232906
Yeah, no shit.
The guy was already on the zipline and I shot him with venator's near hitscan gun from an odd angle and he dropped instantly, he was not on it long enough for immunity to kick in.
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Play the game the way you want to
But why are so many people crying because of skill expression
So you can't aim and you can't play the map and maybe you're just not that good at itemizing
Go to your shitter rank and stop complaining
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>play deadlock
>rem is on my team
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>>566219796
Is she okay?

>>566229149
You'll reach your rank eventually don't worry.
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>>566229149
how is holding down W and then pressing F when you're in range of the tower "sweaty"
like it takes 0 effort even playing runescape is harder
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>>566233535
>Its a gun rem
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>>566229310
>they need to remove parkour because i can't do it
ngmi
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>>566234138
id rather it be a gun rem. gun rems, paradox/holliday players are all greifers who are horrible at the game so at least the game can end quickly and you have no hope for a win. a support rem who tries to be useful will fall off and result in a 40+ minute game that ends in a crushing defeat
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>>566229310
I think I'm losing it cause I can't tell if this is bait or not.
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>>566232736
>new
The only thing new here is you, fag
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sometimes i like to spectate my graves players and see whats going on in their shriveled little brains
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how would you fix miku (outside of bringing back her welding mask of course)
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>return fire procs light eater on celeste
abuse before patch
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>>566234969
return fire is so ass, they can literally just stop shooting you
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>>566232659
>>566233207
you just hold ctrl while jumping up man its not that hard to do
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>>566234969
Sure, but
>you have to play celeste
I'd rather die NIGGA
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>>566234942
Make her sweaty
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>>566235069
Yeah no shit you nigger are you retarded or are you being obtuse on purpose because you use scripts to dodge zipline stuns?
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>first game on a new character
>there is a 23/0 Lash airborne 24/7, never touching the ground
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>>566234168
I'm not spending 10 hours practicing some autistic bullshit
>>566234240
How would it be bait? Why are people allowed to traverse the map TWICE AS FAST? it breaks the game and makes it zero strategy when positioning doesnt matter
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>>566235273
your slowing hex bro?
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>>566235215
ok post the match id and timestamp and we'll take a look
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>>566235273
your hex, silence, phantom strike, bro? don't tell me you L->R like a retard
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>can't play silver or any other damage character to save my life
>do really well with ivy and rem
maybe i'm just stuck as support forever
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I have 400 games played and I just got my first non-retarded rem, built items that synergized with the team, got cursed relic, didn't steal team sinners, didn't go fucking gun or pillow or whatever retard shit, I think I am going to cry... I'm not the only rem player with 2 brain cells to rub together..........
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>>566235306
You'll be able to wall jump and slide after a dash one day lil gup don't worry, keep at it.
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>>566235469
just hit all 3 shots bro it's not that hard
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the game has been "out" for two years already as of last month, at this point you have to be legitimately disabled to think all the movement tech isn't intentional
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>>566235801
You are a disengenuous nigger.
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>>566236074
its almost like you're replying to retarded overused b8
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>>566236126
No I'm white.
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>>566236149
i'm not replying to anyone my post is a non sequitur tangentially related to another conversation in the thread
i'm pretty sure that guy isn't arguing that schmovement isn't intentional just that's bad for the game or whatever
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Armor Piercing rounds should work like Dota's MKB and make it so you ignore enemy dodge chance from stuff like GT max flight or mirage tornado. There's very few characters with dodge chance in the game right now but it feels bad that there's no counterplay to it. Especially Mirage, the stupid tornado build gives him like 30 seconds of 60% evasion
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>>566235801
I will never be able to edge boost like the autistic eternus smurf in my phantom lobbies though
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>>566235306
>>566236446
you dont have to spend 10 hours practicing it, just practice it in your games, worst case you rotate 2% slower
plus it feels good sometimes you just hit that shit
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NERF CELESTE
NEF MINA
NERF SILVER
HOLY FUCKING SHIT ESPECIALLY CELESTE I CAN NOT STAND THE BULSHIT MOVEMENT AUTISM LETS HER DO
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>>566236446
There's a console command you can use to show the velocity you get off of edge boosts which makes it a lot easier to practice, you don't need to grind it out, just get an idea of the angle you need to hit.
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>>566236581
>2 stam to be slower than just climbing the rope
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>>566236581
Literally I will never understand why people complain like you have to force yourself to sit in explore and practice when you can just do it while you're playing the game all day already
You probably have 300+ games minimum, that's a lot of downtime while moving around the map to practice shit
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>>566236635
you're shit lol
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>>566236746
It's more fun than climbing up the rope. Aren't you playing the game to have fun?
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>>566236746
the point is practicing movement while moving around the map doing nothing retardbro
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>>566236635
just quit this game.....its not for rivals players like you
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deadlock paradox rule34
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>>566236581
genuinely how can someone watch clips like this and NOT think it's sick
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>>566236820
ur a nigger
>>566236854
i wont have to quit when it devolves to the same handful of giga autistic tryhards playing the game
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>>566236581
this is a pretty good route to break someones ankles, baits them into going under bridge and you get away on height
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Ok but what do you DO against kelvin?
>Skating (homosexually) on his ice plats
>Beaming you for all of your health (retardedly)
>Doming you (invincibly)
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>pressing shift when next to a wall or edge is LE TRYHARD
movement is literally easier than aiming bruh. i would say the only hard thing is getting rid of the muscle movement of holding down W in the air tho which can fuck things up due to source engine retardation>>566236970
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>>566237028
against kelvin? nigga i AM kelvin
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>>566237028
they should change dome to be much bigger but nerf healing and give other stats in place of it
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>>566237028
I kill him.
>but
no I kill him
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I might be physically inept at playing anything but support because I keep being my friend group's designated support player. It may be over.
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>>566237028
the answer to how do I counter [OP hero] is always:
>play an OP carry and stat check them by farming more
>buy cursed relic as support and follow your carry around
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>>566236982
this boost to the right of the tower is a lot easier to do but yeah
I just think it's important to nail down that you don't /have/ to force yourself to go practice shit solo, you can just do it, unless you're trying to get to an urgent teamfight or objective contest you aren't gonna lose games over it. it also just engages your brain more than holding W from point A to B
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>>566237112
I forgot most people aren't coming from source games
I have trouble understanding some of the tech so I can only imagine people coming from W+M1 games are feeling
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>>566237448
Ironically, a fear of being slow is what stops people from becoming truly fast.
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>>566237448
thank god I play a 8 stamina hero and I can just spam IAD kek
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They updated it so Talon can now land charged shots on mid air traps. this shit is amazing, I can now fuck with Lash
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>>566237448
>this is what a 31 year old trans obese indian (brown) neet is capable of
what's your excuse, /dlg/?
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>>566238106
It gives him some pretty crazy kill situations on grounded heroes too, sometimes you can trap beneath their feet and hit both them and the trap at the same time and now they're cursed and slowed for your next charged shot
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havent played in like 5 months who are my new mains, anons?
i used to really like spirit holliday, is she still good?
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>>566237241
It's never over as long as you keep supporting.
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>>566236898
why appreciate and have fun when you can cope and seethe
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Alt+F4
Uninstall
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>>566238859
I've heard the word "pedo" like 10000000000000000000000000000 fucking times ever since the second season of the Jeff Epstein show "The Trump drama" (the much anticipated follow up to the 2019 season "The Fishy Suicide"). Honestly get new material.
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>>566238859
Yeah, and?
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Waiting for some acid to kick in, whos winrate should I help tank more as a state funded MMR assassin?
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>>566240559
nice
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why does kelvin beam do such insane DPS even on a full support build?
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>>566240368
press f
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>>566240765
because the tier 2 upgrade gives it a damage boost per second AND over doubles its scaling from .5 to 1.1
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>>566218472
I fucking hate wraith so much
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>>566237448
Jesus christ remove this shit immediately
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>>566241991
TELEPORTING!1!!!
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>>566242080 (You)
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>>566240559
that shit is gross and you should feel bad for having it on your computer
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>>566242216
>hopping around the map at the skyscraper heights where nobody can reach or damage you is good for the game bro trust me
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>lash went to die alone
>fuck you mo, kill yourself
>caught rem with 1000+ sack
>thank you mo, I will suck your dick
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Rem
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>>566242136
>LIFTING!!!!!
dead from 4 cards
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buff characters i like and nerf characters i don't like simple as
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how do you respond when you call you pedo
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>>566242320
Unironically go play smite
It's deadlock without the verticality
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>>566243356
It also plays like it was made in 1989 alongside doom
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>>566242080
dont look
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>>566243708
This doesnt bother me because he's close to the ground. At least you can reasonable shoot and land shit on him. The flying 50m in the sky is beyond retarded. They need to reduce the heights of every building and jump height by 30%
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>>566243941
It doesn't bother you until you have low stamina and he does all that while spending none or close to none
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>>566243941
You can just do the same thing as him and have a fun rooftop chase, unless you're bad at the game
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>>566244363
That's pretty much why chasing people is harder than being chased, you have to be able to reproduce their movement aka don't be bad or you'll lose them
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>>566244003
Slowing bullets is a mandatory buy to cuck movement trannies. As long as they're in bullet range you can counter them that's why I hate the 100m in the air ones where they cant even be dash distance reduced...
>>566244363
You have to reproduce and guess where they're going too. If someone is just spazzing out and spamming random movement shit it's ridiculously hard to follow.
>you have to be a movement tranny or youre bad at the game
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>>566243708
That's pretty clean, I'll have to do this when running urn through mid is safe
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>>566242080
what's funny is that there was only exactly 1 (one) actual tech used in that entire webm, and it was a weak (imperfect) corner boost
if you think that church walljump was an edgeboost you're WRONG. yes it was off the corner, no the boost he received was not in line with his forward momentum. in fact it was nigh perpendicular, like a standard wall jump
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>>566244961
Dont care, you shouldnt be able to stay in the air for that long
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you dont even know what real movement looks like wait until the koreans start playing
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They changed mmr lately? I haven't played in a month
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>>566245171
>valve game
>koreans
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i love venator
spellslinger feels so GOOD
>both CS and indomitable
look they had a doorman okay. i got abducted once and decided it's not worth the risk of having that happen again
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I think Yamato should be a furry.
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What do
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>fall damage added
there the game is fixed
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>>566245713
>holliday misses a corner boost and instantly fucking dies
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>>566240679
dog pov
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>>566245647
slowing hex + vortex web + focus lens
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Where can i learn more about the world and characters?
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>>566244423
>>566244558
You don't have to do the exact 1:1 thing they're doing though, it's not that hard to chase most heroes even if they know all the movement tech. And at least they have to put some work in as opposed to Mina pressing 2 twice which gets her out of any situation and is totally impossible to interact with.
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>>566245713
>>566245808
>Ground poun-ACKKK
>I'll crush em!
>So long, detective.
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>>566246337
me
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>>566245713
>paradox majestic jump swap instakill
>lash throws you up in the air and /killme bind for team wipe
>vindicta and talon literally fucking removed from game
>ivy drop griefs teammates
really you're so fucking retarded im pretty sure you have brainworms or something like that you crusty hobofaggot
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When is valvo gonna add the next vampire lady? i thinks we need at least 5 more of them for full team.
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>>566246659
>paradox majestic jump swap instakill
this is kino actually
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>>566246352
>impossible to interact with.
i use my funny 1600 item and you fall to the ground and get raped by mister krill
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cancer spiritnigger meta..........niggerpollo can just walk up to you press 2 buttons and kill you instantly with no counterplay..........m1 is dead........
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>>566246787
There are maybe 3 minutes of the game where you having slowing hex and Mina doesn't have dispel.
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>>566218936
jungle camps really should shoot rem minions off of sinners if they're not killed first desu
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>>566246742
isnt this true for any paradox build when swapped into four walls and two bombs?
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i'm glad they made shadow weave cheaper. i can LARP as a nosferatu vampire with drifter using it, i just need a skin mod now
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>>566246326
Man...
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>>566247037
show me the items not the stats retard
how many of you had spirit resilience or spellbreaker or counterspell?
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>there's a random abomination monster hidden underground in New York
what is the in game lore of the mid boss? why is he there? was he there before the spooks showed up?
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>>566247184
There's no lore on the mid boss because it's a placeholder, once they have a non placeholder in you'll get answers to those questions.
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>>566247184
Wait for the Netflix anime, bro. Everything will be answered.
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>>566247321
I hope it gets it's true form next major patch
When is the next patch anyway?
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>>566247407
Anywhere from 1-3 months.
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My girlfriend (boy) is better at playing carries than I am. Is it over?
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>oracle 3 lobby
>seven says "thank god this is my smurf, cant be demoting my eternus acc"
guys i cant put my finger on why but i dont think he's eternus
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>>566247548
kek had an even funnier seven few hours ago
>trophy collector seven
>lowest souls and obj damage in lobby
>check account
>lvl0 steam, no other games, no matches played
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>>566247548
>thank god i didn't get demoted from peelow to pisslow
anything below e6 is the trenches
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>>566247508
what anime series are they/them from
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Leakerfag here, we're getting ANOTHER vampire next big patch.
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After getting to oracle this is easily the most miserable I've been, the amount of subhuman passive aggressive retards that start whinging the moment something doesn't go their way has skyrocketed and i cant imagine how much worse it gets.
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>>566247884
we trust your emissary 2 opinion
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>>566248273
>the truth hurts him so much he starts projecting
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>>566248441
we trust your seeker opinion
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>>566248441
we trust your archon 3 opinion
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>>566237448
>chat
Based...
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>>566238859
Confusing statement coming from a fellow gamer.
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>>566242494
Delete this.

>>566243708
I too have the bad habit of doing melee boosts even when not needed.
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Anyone else have flyer fatigue? Celeste, Talon, and Vindicta need to be removed or reworked
>B-BUY KNOCKDOWN
Ok cool they bought dispel and it barely effects their damage
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>>566248115
More cannon fodder for Ira Domini
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>>566248929
buy phantom strike
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>>566246742
I like it because if she misses or doesn't find targets she just breaks her legs.
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>>566248929
just shoot them? minus celeste they become sitting ducks midair
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>>566249002
>My heroes aren't actually OP you just need a 6400 item to counter them
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>>566248929
You forgot lash, apollo, holliday, mina.
floatslop needs to get gutted it's all so tiresome.
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>>566248929
Mina just kills two of those with a button press.
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Are parries still OP? I haven't played for a while
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>>566249092
well it basicaly instantly kill vindicta and gt so yes
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>>566249092
AFFLICTION
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>>566249176
Nope. You just whiff one heavy melee and you get to punching.
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>>566219589
just buy one slow item
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>>566249306
90% of the playerbase Oracle and above is scripting tbf
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>>566220265
crowd control
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>>566249306
Ok they dash away cause it costs nothing to use parry tho
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>>566221412
crushing fists is your movement
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>>566248929
>Talon, and Vindicta
if you struggle against these two thats a massive skill issue
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>a Rem does more melee damage than Bebop
>soft little fluffy feet vs a giant spiky metal ball
kill yoshi
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>>566249771
Bebop procs melee twice in one combo he's fine
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what if I put my penis inside Holliday's vagina? thoughts /dlg?
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>>566250239
you'd get VD
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What do you even do in a game like this?
What could I do to make it better for our team?
Why every time there is 1 strong character in enemy team in other games, he is capable to carry the game alone?
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>>566250239
>holliday
>vagina
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>>566229717
>graves
>McExtra stout
just take the L along with the free extra souls
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>spirit geist
nah
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>>566250364
>he is capable to carry the game alone?
you're playing that hero lil bro
it's not the game's fault you played meme spirit geist instead of metaslave gun geist in a lobby full of bots
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>>566250364
first of all bomb giest is throwing so thats one thing
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>>566243624
>It's deadlock without the verticality
>It also plays like it was made in 1989 alongside doom
Hmmm I wonder if these two things have anything to do with each other.
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>>566250557
Spirit Geist is fine, bomb Geist is griefing
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deadlock is for trans lmfao
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>play other video games where movement is not a huge focus and the devs clearly want it to be more grounded
>playerbase gets mad at all movement tech, tells you to go back to quake if you want movement
>play this game that's bloated with movement mechanics and intentionally keeps movement bugs in the game, clearly movement is a focus
>those same retards from aforementioned other games are here crying to remove it all
nah go back to whatever dad gamer game you came from faggot
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>play silver
>entire and I mean ENTIRE enemy team spends entire game using their CC on me and kiting me with actives while my teammates kill them
>if they ever stop doing this for 3 seconds you autowin because of ult resets
How is this character fun for anyone involved? What the actual fuck were they thinking?
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>>566231441
you can bully her with kelvin. 3 dashes aint enough to gap icepath
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>>566250364
You didnt get eshift and didnt go berserker. You threw by going a suboptimal build. I think bomb geist is good but you need at least SOME hybrid. And your items just fell off late game. You have 20k less souls than the infernus

But yeah at the very minimum geist should be getting berserker it's such an efficient damage item.
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Flopping tranny deadcock.
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>>566250364
use this geist build
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Kc-0RItrug
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>>566250364
>Spirit Geist
That's your core issue buddy.
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>>566251162
Sounds fun to me
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>>566251573
>spirit any character
worthless
yoshi demands we play gun builds because they're the only viable build
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>>566250364
>greater expansion spirit geist into giga heal team
not a bad idea
>not buying healbane despite the fact it would have 100% uptime on 100% of their team
you are throwing just as bad as your team
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>>566247184
SAVE ME AVAMAN
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>>566251056
it's always a skill issue. dysgenic balding 30 year olds with no hands and no brain crying about their own shortcomings

>>566251162
stam mastery plus phantom strike and/or unstoppable are core on silver for this reason
so you can be extra sticky
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>>566250364
geist never leaves my avoid
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>>566251767
also he has infuser
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>lose 4
>derank on the 4th loss
>win 1
>rank back up
>most valuable player in my team in all these games
maybe the rank adjustments were actually good...
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>>566251056
>game is great but I want them to remove *feature unique to this game*
mayhap stick with lol/dota
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>>566251978
yeah i noticed that and the fact he has 1.9k healing on geist in presumably a 40-50 minute game

this nigger was sitting backline spamming bombs and doing NOTHING else them cries about his team being bad
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>>566236635
Haze, Kelvin and Mina are the only characters that straight up suck the fun out of the game whenever they're strong (almost always) because not only they are miserable characters but they are in every fucking match.
I like when ugly bastards like Vyper are strong because at the very least I won't see them that often.
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>>566251056
>dad gamer game
Bro. Quake, Halo, and Doom are all dad gamer games though, and they all have fantastic movement. The ones complaining about movement are zoomers with the valorant, R6Siege, and CODslop games.
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>>566252323
Halo's movement was tactical and slow not anything close to deadlock's spastic bullshit. Plus you could actually just shoot and nade them. This game you cant really damage people hopping around at max distance if you dont have the gun for it. And most spells require them to be on the ground to land easily or at all
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>>566252304
Vyper is kinda cute take it back pussy
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>>566248127
Deranked from phantom to oracle and it got insanely worse. Oracle is the place where people are ok mechanically but their mental is absolute dogshit and stops them from ranking up. Bitches forget that acting toxic is at most going to tilt your own team and cause a loss.
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>>566252304
>I like when ugly bastards like Vyper
if you don't like her at her worst (placeholder model) you don't deserve her when she gets a sexo lamia remodel
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If you buy arctic blast without having some sort of high burst combo to pair with the 15% damage amp then you are a retard (99% of ''people'' who buy this item)
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>>566252293
>this nigger was sitting backline spamming bombs and doing NOTHING else them cries about his team being bad
Is she a frontline character?
Also I don't use aimbot, what the fuck am I supposed to do with single shot revolver with 9 ammo?
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>>566253870
It's still good for stopping movement and movement abilities though, it's basically a momentum reset if you get hit by it. Are at that rank where everyone is moving on wheelchair
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>>566252323
i disagree, zoomers yearn for movement. everywhere i look i see zoomers praising movement in games or obsessing over it and similar styles of mechanics
also actual dad gamer games aren't those OGs anymore. they're brown and bloom grounded shooter slop. the MW2s, the battlefields, the halos (also extremely grounded movement. being in the air makes you incredibly easy to track, even more so for the super floaty gravity of halo games)
dudes who played those games are like 30 now, minimum
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Is full spirit graves still viable in the current meta?
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As a recovered Warframe addict, seeing people complain about movement tech feels like I'm on an alien planet
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>>566254161
Graves isn't viable in general
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>they added a question to the survey to ask about NON-CC utility
Lmao.
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>>566254223
That's because warframe is a pve babby game so no one cares because you aren't on the receiving end of it.
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>>566254161
>is ... spirit ... current meta?
no, build gun, on everyone.
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i play gun rem unironically
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SOON
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Deadlock has already crystalized a "meta" and the developers are clearly catering to it before it had a chance to really shine. Deadlock needed at least one fully transformative mechanic before it can be it's own project, now, it's just a serviceable genre mix up of competitive slop. What a shame.
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>>566255734
>frogpost drivel with buzzwords
shut up faggot
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>>566253954
>Is she a frontline character?
your ult is a "rape this person immediately and also silence everyone around us" button
yes man people should be running and screaming in fear if they see you getting close
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>>566255734
what's stopping you from queuing as whatever character you want and buying whatever items you want right now?
the opinions of your teammates? when did you care about that?
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I love street brawl
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>enemies using your jump pads explode it and take a mini-vent stun
>ability range now increases jump pad size
>max investment lasso chains to an additional target
I just made Holliday even more cancer and she still wouldn't be viable
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>>566251407
Oh my god, just pressing shift is not enough...
I never knew that it's some timing bullshit minigame movement again holy fuck. I'm not buying this shit again
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>>566253519
I'm in Oracle IV and half of my games have teammates who get tilted within 10 minutes and start bitching at the whole team lol. Many times we still turnaround and win the game but these crybabies cannot shut up. Typeshitters are the worst, probably too cheap to use a mic or have the weakest vocal chords.
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>>566256156
the developers have already begun changing the game around the player "meta game", like having certain characters allowed to be overpowered once they farm enough (Wraith, Victor) and removing certain niche fun builds on certain characters (Gun Dynamo). The fact you could build your character in any direction made Deadlock unique and they're forcing people away from that.
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>>566256810
>overpowered once they farm enough (Wraith, Victor)
No?
They butchered Victor because low elo shitters kept crying about him
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>>566256343
Bro... dash jumping is one of the most elementary things that every player should know, you can complain about other movement tech all you like but this is one of the easiest and most balanced things to learn and incorporate
Quick tip - your stamina bar turns blue at the right jump timing after you dash, it might help
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>>566257261
That's not even explained in the tutorial?
I always thought it's a passive activation with shift. I was wondering why I never see any buff icons after dashing.
And it fucking uses 2 stamina too
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>>566256309
Holliday's main problem is that Paradox does her job better while requiring half the effort
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this one felt good
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>>566250983
I recently started playing and decided to get 30 games on every character. So far Geist was my favorite with the bomb. Very straightforward build that just does fucking damage.
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>>566257802
you could have just killed the seven
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>>566257560
The tutorial system in its current state is severely lacking, there's a huge amount of stuff that's not even alluded to and requires outside resources to learn, it's definitely one of the features they can improve the most if they intend to keep the kind of depth the game currently has
Usually with Kinetic Dash and Arcane Surge you pre-activate them so you won't have a stamina disadvantage in a fight
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>>566257993
if i ulted yeah for sure
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>>566257802
>tracking the fattest character in the world with m1 feels good
what is wrong with m1ggers?
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>>566253808
When she gets a remodel whatever, but right now she is ugly, U G L Y pure sexo though
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>>566258217
my dysfunction is that i experience nothing but joy and bliss
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Throwing knives with Shiv made me think, will they ever consider adding a hero that's just about vomiting as much projectiles as he can? A million knives or shit.
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>>566226732
Only if I derank, Oracle shitpit is where I belong.
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>>566259064
I'm assuming and hoping we get a bullet hell hero at some point.

Also? We need a vore hero for Deadlock.
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>>566257560
Its not your fault
>>566257578
I love hitting all the Holliday inputs correctly it feels so good. I sure wish it was impactful
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>>566257578
Doorman does both their jobs with 0 effort. Kidnap? AOE? Util? Doorman shits on them.
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>>566254946
Watching people die to echo shard jars + heroic aura is more fun than holding m1 THO
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>>566253954
>Is she a frontline character?
Yes, the matchmaker treats her as frontline, but more than that her max drain + malice + ult is the biggest fuck you i win :) combo in the game as it comes to 1v1 or 1vmany in the early to mid game. Sitting in the backline throwing bombs just cranks up pointless damage numbers with no real impact on the game, and you are also just ignoring three quarters of her kit plus the fact that she has one of the best guns in the game.
>Also I don't use aimbot, what the fuck am I supposed to do with single shot revolver with 9 ammo?
Her gun is really easy to land shots with, since you'll be sitting at pretty much point blank range draining people, if you need aimbot to land shots at sub 15m range then genuinely git gud.
Spirit Geist is more fun than gun Geist and gets 90% of the value from bomb a dedicated bomb build does while also having big damage from malice stacks, drain with EE and being able to use the ult at a moments notice, plus has impact since the enemy team either focuses you or dies.
Build wise I typically will get spirit 4.8k first with R Regen being my first T3 item, then gun and health 4.8k, then spirit maxing. The reason you want gun 4.8k is that her gun is too good to ignore and you'll anyways be right in peoples faces. Typically i get KDash (extra mobility) and Berserker for it. Berserker in particular is an insane item for her, you can keep it at max stacks indefinitely by throwing out malice whenever its about to time out.
Gr. Expansion is a bit of a shit since the bomb anyways has a good radius, and the range it gives on drain is worse than getting a 3.2k mobility item to close the distance like warp stone or stam mastery. Tankbuster is a bit of a meme now that health values have been reduced, in this match it wasnt worth since only Abrams has good health scaling on the enemy team. Also trancendent cd was a complete waste here, you wouldve been better off saving a bit more to buy Boundless
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vyper gun just feels miserable to play after the nerf
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>>566257114
not him but i've got around 59% winrate as him and i'm asc 2
granted it's shitter south america but still. i only play him spirit build, nothing out of the ordinary besides sometimes skipping spirit lifesteal
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>>566257114
>Victorniggers trying to rewrite history
He was high winrate in every elo
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>>566260696
I haven't noticed a massive difference, you need to get yo aim up and build better items
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>>566257939
it does abysmally poor damage compared to 'real' spirit builds/characters.

In fact I'm willing to bet you can build the same items on Paige and end up with more impact and damage.
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buying rebuttal should be a bannable offense
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>>566261156
um he was only 56% winrate in e6 and easily counterable ok
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>>566261629
This. It's clearly bug abuse as there's no conceivable way that they left an item that overpowered at 800 soul cost on purpose.
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After only playing melee Abrams since forever. I finally took the hybrid pill, feels good to get mvp as him again
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>>566261314
1 grenade and dagger consistently proc soul burn though
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>>566218472
Does Silver's gun feel awkward to use for anyone else? Frequently I will go to shoot but the delay between shots isn't up yet. I think that mechanic is dumb and gay. Not just because it makes it hard to hit shots on a low ammo gun, but also because you can and I have operated a lever action way faster than that IRL. I think her gun should feel more like Abrams Revolver.
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>>566250239
counterpoint: what if I got Silver pregnant?
Thoughts on that, huh?
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>>566262454
It's literally bugged, if you do anything between shots or while reloading there's a chance that the gun will just stop working unless you spam m1.
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>>566262454
There is a concurrent bug that stops you from firing her gun depending on what action you do.
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buying anything should be a bannable offense
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>>566263169
the game shouldn't have any items or a laning phase
and since the game is decided by teamfights anyway we can make the map smaller and remove objectives to save time
and pushing bases without towers sounds weird so maybe we should push a cart instead and there could be multiple rounds too
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>>566262454
Yes, it was even worse on release.
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>>566261156
He's not that victor anymore
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Any lewd Paige mods?
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Why these fucks are incapable of creating satisfying ranking experiance in every fucking game of theirs?

Been on a positive win rate (60%) for ages and now trying to break into archon 1
>4 loss streak e6 -> e5
>win, loss -> nothing
>4x win -> e6 again
>loss, win, win -> archon
>seems like i should be safe for at least 1 loss
>win, loss -> e6 again
>win again -> no rankup to archon
What the fuck is this bullshit?
I thought they learned a fucking lesson from csgo that people do not enjoy these tiers without clear mmr gain/loss indicator, but nah they are back at it again
https://statlocker.gg/profile/87252151/matches
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>>566264429
bottom heavy paige is the only "good" one, the proportions are kinda fucked but the freckles make it alright.
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>>566261156
He could have 70% winrate for all I care, it just proves even the higher elos is filled of crayon eaters who refuse to itemize.
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>>566264750
>Mina
It's stat based and you are unironicly competing with smurf stats.
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Why the fuck hasn't Dynamo been hot-fixed into the dirt
Every game is decided by who has this fucker on his team.
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>>566264785
You know certain heroes are strong because their counters are softer or they require far more investment to counter right
>No, the players infinitely better than me must just be retards
Sure
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>>566264750
are you cute I can boost you
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Victor players unironically think if they can't 1v6 the lobby the hero is bad.
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>>566264750
post bussy
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>>566265703
>Mina Winner
Certified not Cute 0/17/3 Mina
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>>566265830
That's what a carry hero is supposed to do yes.
Warden, Venator, Wraith, Seven, Mirage, Infernus can all do this, why can't Victor do it too?
Hypercarry are meant to CARRY late game. Victor ain't carrying shit now.
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>>566259064
>will they ever consider adding a hero that's just about vomiting as much projectiles as he can?
this is viper
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Lightning scroll suicide bomber Victor... think about it...
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>>566234942
Make her hit sleazily on all the younger male characters
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>play as victor
>expecting fun times to be had
>laning against warden
>ominousforeshadowing.jepg
>warden starts absolutely fucking murdering me
>starts building gun warden
>deals 80K DAMAGE by the end of round
>>there's no way it's that fucking storng, right?
>try out exact build
>100k damage, 17 kills
WHAT THE FUCK WHY IS GUN WARDEN SO RAPEY MAN
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>>566264919
wdym? im competing with other smurf minas for a rankup to archon?
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>>566266668
>Alchemist
>Only thing about his kit that's even remotely alchemist is a bottle
>The best way to play him is as a m1gger
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>>566266753
Yes. Your stats are compared to other Mina's who are likely smurfs.
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>>566264750
their rank system is some dreamed up by some crackhead after his 20th hit of the day, i went from p3 to p6 with this match history
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Please patch today, i cant endure another weekend of dynamo and trophy collector
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>>566266668
Warden is just busted OP
>Early lane Hitler
>Cage is aids even with minimal investment.
>Bloated HP pool for no reason
>Gun will melt everything
They need to rework him into a spirit carry
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Nothing better than people using your doors as doorman and thanking you
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>>566266942
You forgot the most important part.
>Braindead easy to play while doing all those things.
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>>566266753
nigga is unironically a retard
but now mmr change takes into account how well you carry the match as compared to other players of the same hero in similar rank
those smurfs are in your bracket for 3 games at maximum compared to actual people in your rank who are there for hundreds of games and the data is adjusted to remove smurfs from it because the system detects them as not belonging there
if you play like people above your rank, you go up fast
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>>566266942
>>Early lane Hitler
Only when on the enemy teak, when he's on my team he uses flask once every minute or so at most
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>>566266802
ironically the build also encouraged you to mindlessly spam your 1 and get free fire rate buffs for it (Spellslinger is so fucking evil on him, it was also in the build)
I also wondered if ballistic enchantment would make your 3 theoretically even more cancer, but I couldn't tell if it just affected my actual casting range, or the range of how far out you need to go before escaping his 3
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>>566264750
>I thought they learned a fucking lesson from csgo that people do not enjoy these tiers without clear mmr gain/loss indicator
because it's like a casino, they want to keep you hooked; they don't want you know the exact statistics of everything, or you might lose interest from the frustration of getting ripped off mmr-wise
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>Making people lose stamina is a T1 upgrade
LMAO this is the shit they removed from Haze's knife and I'm pretty sure that was a T3
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>>566267421
they dont tell you so you cant exploit it you fucking schizo
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>>566226732
It's the only thing to really look forward to when progressing in this game, as sad as it sounds
but that's just because this game has no campaign, no other level progressing system, nothin' besides mmr ranks
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you fags always act like you are god fucking gamers, okay then go ahead fix Holliday WITHOUT doing a complete overhaul with her skills
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>>566267637
i remove her from the roster
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I don't give a shit if Graves is actually a horrible hero and she has a 1% winrate, her being able to auto claim souls, put her trap directly under my feet (you have plenty of time to escape Warden's trap meanwhile), and have me as a permanent lanejanny by constantly spamming her ugly bastard zombies all make me wish for a total kit rework
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>>566267637
>go ahead fix Holliday WITHOUT doing a complete overhaul with her skills
She's the exact same, but without the line about getting her tubes tied (she's planning on having a big family)
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>>566266668
>>566267141
Warden has been one of the stronger m1ggers since launch, I think he's just a vyper scenario where he's not as braindead easy compared to running it down at mach 10 as wraith or seven and his model is ugly as fuck relative to most other characters.
Also having no intro voicelines and missing lines for half the characters you have to ping on the map certainly doesn't help either.
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support Paige or spirit Paige?
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>>566267587
The truth of it is that ranks don't matter. There will always be a 0/14 retard on your team, the only difference between the ranks is that in the low ranks it's a new player but in the high ranks it's somebody with 3k hours and a bruised ego
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>>566267637
She's a widow instead of 3x divorcee.
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>>566268009
wrong, lowrank games will go for 40 minutes without anyone ever stepping into the boss pit
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>slowing hex / -20% movement w/ -30% dash distance
>point blank / -25% movement
>weighted shots / - 30% movement w/ -25% dash distance
>>ALCHEMICAL FLASK!
> that's another -20% loss in movement speed, and now one of your stamina bars are gone
>uses 3 on you
>too slow to get out of his 3's range, so you effectively get parry-stunned from across the map
>approaching you rapidly with enduring speed while using his 2 at T1
genuinely how the fuck does somebody escape from this doomslayer ass character
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>>566267637
>fix holiday without fixing the thing that makes her so useless
her kit has no synergy, they need to move the barrel / jump pad to another character and give her a 1 and 2 that actually fit her
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>>566268104
>Walkers all die
>Everybody just awkwardly flounders around instead of pushing
>Team gets midboss
>Everybody fucks off to farm and only starts pushing when the midboss timer is already half gone
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I'm glad people are waking up to warden
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>>566268225
Watch out the Holliday onetricks will get mad at you, insisting that their placeholder character is totally fine
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>>566268176
Just like any other carry, you don't engage him when he's online, problem is of course that in deadlock carries get online during or right after laning phase so there's just no hope.
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IT'S TIME TO CHANGE THE WORLD...

ALCHEMICAL FLASK!
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THE PATRONS WILL HERALD THE END OF HUMANITY IF WE LET THEM!
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>>566267637
better scaling numbers on 1-3, replace ultimate with coin toss shooting
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>>566266668
because gun is overtuned right now
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eded to bloo
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>>566267637
make her barrels hit like all the other spirit nukers and not like a laughable joke
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>>566268565
dey hier
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>spirit meta
>looks inside
>guns are powerful, spirit falls off
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>>566268176
>thinking you finally escaped from point blank gun warden
>he sees you for a split second again
>see picrel
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>>566268356
>Holi onetricks
She's fine, maybe a bit more hp but that's likely just a skissue.
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>>566268176
dispel magic and he stops existing.
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please sell deadlock for money so smurfs and russians are less common
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>>566267637
Barrels are now planted on the ground and/or walls. They are invisible unless you are within 10 meters and they will explode if you get within 5 meters. They emit a sound if you get within 10 meters as well. Two barrels can not be placed in inside eachother. They have collision and you can stand on them. You can have a maximum of 25 barrels placed at a time and they have infinite duration.
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>>566268727
>spirit meta falls off
I mean yeah; all the spirit utilities and boons 'n shit got effectively nerfed
one of the only spirit utilities we have left that are actually effective are the egg. get egg before or at the 1 minute mark, not after, and then just wait until you get 1,200 souls, and then boom, you can now start raping effectively with permanent buffs and some boons
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>>566268936
>dispel magic and he stops existing
okay but what if he sees that and starts investing everything into gun and greens
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>Drifter
>Apollo
>Silver
I've found my three tricks. Is Billy worth learning or does he extremely vary from the general gameplan of these 3? I've found a one build where trophy collector isn't optional on top daily, but I don't know if that's good since the rest aren't doing it.
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>Erebus gets declared MVP of the tournament two weeks in a row with Bebop and gets booted from his team
>Eido goes 0-11 as Mina and is outclassed by the rest of MLC, still there
How good is he at sucking dick
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I am afraid to sell items due to it always hurting my build later-on in some way
how do I get over this fear, or is it perhaps a justified one?
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Nerf holliday this nigger hero is the most annoying shit in the game worse than doorman
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>>566231441
Getting Mina when she's run out of dashes or just before she can manage to use one is very cathartic.
Getting to snap her like a twig.
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>>566269253
Billy is dogshit to play unless you play with friends because he's team reliant since he's just an initiator but the problem that really makes him a stinker is how hard he benefits from landing melee hits but with how strong parries are and how rampant parry scripting is he can feel miserable to play when going for a light melee gets you from 100 to 0 because you wanted a lil bit of ammo refill and 20 extra hp.
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>>566269046
is this achievable natty?
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>>566269392
It's justified sometimes, other times it can be a trap.
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Jewishly designed censoredslop for feminist liberal subhumans with an assembly line fetish.
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>>566269574
I have so many matches where melee is not allowed at all without unstoppable up.
Having to just rely on bashdowns or be instantly killed by a parry sucks ass.
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>>566269046
Terrible horse stance. Thighs should be parrellel to the ground and back should be as straight and verticle as possible.
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>>566269340
Is there any vod of Eido malding during night shift?
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>>566270456
The issue is that the melee items are shit
I'd be fine with parrying having such a hard fuckup cost if the melee was competitive
But its not.
Even pre nerf lifestrike was just meh, now its a near joke item.
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>>566270776
I just want parry to only work on heavies, and not lights. It's all I want.
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>>566270115
I see they renewed your contract.
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>>566270663
he doesn't visibly crash out but you can hear it when his mental's down in the sewers which happens often. honestly, i doubt he will make it in actual pro play because of his paper thin mental.
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is lifesteal still somewhat meta or will I have to live in anti-resist hell for this patch like the last couple of times
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>>566269340
Atp they are just keeping eido for the free publicity. I can't wait till the game comes out and this nigger ends up being washed when there's an actual pro scene.
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>>566271450
that literally just means he has 2 versions of that picture
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>>566268975
>free-to-play w/ buyable cosmetics that require real money
or
>purchasable game, w/ cosmetics that can only be earned through "levelling" up your character and rank; nothing else that involves real money
which one is healthier
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Grok, make Eido wear a maid outfit while servicing the rest of MLC's cocks
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>>566271613
obviously the second but its a dead practice
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>>566268026
Honestly it would make her way more compelling if her husband was killed by the Troubadour.
I get that she's dedicated but seeking revenge for murders of people who she might not have even known is just kind of a week motivation, especially compared to Grey Talon or Kelvin
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>>566271450
my nigga in christ that's something that happens on desktop
that duplicate (1) file naming shit is not something that occurs on a phone
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>>566268356
Played 2 games with her for the first time today and I get it now why noone picks her. It's a grief hero that just feels cool. I mean, your opponent can use your own fucking pads to jump your team. It's amazing how they do nothing with Holliday to make her viable while continously rebalancing everyone else.

She does no fucking damage, it's impossible to hit shots with consistance cuz of travel time, her farm is horrendous and her barrel is a joke of an ability that requires too much setup. Then you compare it to Warden's flask or doorman's bell and think to yourself how the hell this ability made it into the game

She needs a complete rework i would only keep her jump pad and maybe crackshot. Her ult is also bullshit, you miss it and you lose it while krill, doorman wraith have guaranteed pick. It also feels terrible to play against when she can just come out of nowhere and lasso you during your ult while being severely outpositioned. Her own ability encouruges suicide run where you gamble on if you make it out alive or not

Ult should play into her mobility kit, something like mcree ult where she can jump into the air with her jump pad, cast it and have a brief window of lock-on. Revolver has 6 shots, there are 6 possible targets

I can't think of a single thing she excels at, flying around the map only makes her annoying and easy to shut down anyway
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is Street Brawl ritual canon or not?
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>>566270115
>Cockblocks gooners
Psshhh... nothin personnel... goy.
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>>566271827
its something the patrons did before the ritual for fun
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Funny how certain characters have 0 reason to be in the ritual at all.
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>>566271803
>woman character is dogshit
this is because yoshi hates women, but loves men
any "woman" you see in anything higher than b-tier are just troons in disguise
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>>566272013
Why is running makeup so hot?
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>>566272013
they all have a reason to be in the ritual, what some of them don't have is a wish to the patron
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>>566269046
put on some fake boobs dude, don't even bother
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>>566272013
Fact o da mattah is ah do dis foh freeh, da patreon's gift ees just eh bonus.
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>>566272013
>Venator is doing the ritual just because he wants to kill the other patron
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>>566272591
what was his plan?
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>>566272591
Crouching should hide you on the minimap (not sliding).
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>>566272601
so hes just a warden clone
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>>566273080
>Venator is a better Warden
What's even the point of that cop anymore
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>>566272874
he was stalking his prey (gone wrong)
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>>566272591
eded to yello'
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>>566273137
They're definitely going to do a full rework on Warden's lore and model. He's the only character that does not have a dialogue with ANYONE still, and it's rumored that his voice actor has not done any work on him for a long time.
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If you want melee items to be good you have to be fine with them toning down abilities that proc melee, that's the only reason they get nerfed
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>>566244961
It doesn't matter, it's gay and retarded either way and really shouldn't be in the game. No, jumping off the correct pixel of a corner to get more speed is not 'skill expression'.
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Venator's wish would most likely be to remove the opposing Patron from interfering with Earth ever again, along with removing a lot of the supernatural monsters and most evil beings too.
Warden fucking wants to 1v2 both Patrons. He has no wish. He just wants to gain enough power during the ritual to obliterate the Patrons by the end of it. If the Patron he's fighting for can't wish a losing Patron to death, he's just gonna kill both of the Patrons regardless.
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>>566273309
or they could cut out the wishy washy bullshit and just make hero roles set in stone
the game is difficult enough to balance without these honked devs making things more challenging
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>>566273171
'eded tuh braudwae
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So far Graves is the worst character I played. I just don't get it at all how can you play with such a short ranged gun and no charges on 1 skill
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>>566273767
she actually used to be in a much more playable state
but this gen had a literal fucking meltdown when she got the slightest bit of buffs, so she's back to being c-tier again
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>>566273767
low ranks
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>>566273767
Recharging rush is required and she's kind of a lane janitor until she can hard carry late game
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>>566267563
Haze's knife is absurdly fast and impossible to miss. Warden's flask is so slow you can outrun it.
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>>566273767
That's a good thing, characters that play themselves, like Graves and Victor, shouldn't be good.
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>>566273309
I think they just need to get rid of melee abilities that aren't actual melee in general. it's a retarded concept that only causes problems like this ''cuz what if these items that are meant to be procced by melee can actually be procced from range xd???'' which then forces them to nerf them into the ground because a bunch of heroes can just proc it from the other side of a lane.
I don't think any of the current heroes with abilities that count as melee even buy melee items anymore after what they did to lifestrike.
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>>566274860
>a bunch of heroes
>from the other side of lane
*sweats*
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https://www.youtube.com/@HERESYdl
Is this guy actually legit with what he usually teaches or nah
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>24k haze rushes into 40k nigfernus
>go in to intimidate nigfernus and make him not commit
>he runs off
>haze
>on fire
>below half health
>chases through the flame dash and dies
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>>566275071
They raped puddle punch to death it doesn't even matter
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>>566268026
>>566271743
I mean you could fully commit to the tragedy angle with Holliday, give her a husband and kids who were killed by the Troubadour and now she's on a revenge fueled suicide run after him. She genuinely doesn't care if she dies because to her it just means reuniting with her family.
It would make her interactions with characters like Drifter and Mirage warning her off or optimistic ones like Shiv offering her a place at the Baxter Society land with so much more weight because they're all trying to save someone who doesn't even want to live anymore.
Plus it would make sense why she doesn't "like" or want kids, she knows the road she's on only ends one way
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sinclair is so fun
why don't people play sinclair more, his kit is so whimsical and potent
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So are the matchmaking changes good or was it a nothingburger
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>>566275512
>sinclair is so fun
I don't see it, and I don't want to see it if it takes more than 20 games.
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>>566273080
w*rden is gay and lame, Venator may be the coolest hero currently ingame and I don't even play him (not biased)
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>>566275510
Would then be the same lore as gay talon though
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>>566275162
He's decent, hope you aren't asking about coaching though because all coaching is a scam.
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>>566275883
>because all coaching is a scam.
Elaborate a little, am newb
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>>566275883
It's legit good if you're a literal pro, otherwise no point since most mistakes are super fucking obvious.
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>>566275883
>He's decent
is there someone I can find that gives better than decent advice and info or nah
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>>566275953
why would you pay someone to """coach""" you on how to play a videogame nigga
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>>566275512
Because my team mates on Sinclair consistently go 1/12/4 with 19k damage across a 40 minute game.

I don't trust anyone to actually get things done with this hero unless you're e6.
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>>566276082
idk, to improve considerably? It's not like I'm gonna spend lots of money on tons of coaching sessions, I'm just curious about any bad habits potentially forming, or if there's something simple I'm missing from my usual strats
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>>566229074
I think restorative shot is pretty top tier but no one ever seems to use it.
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>>566275512
Unfinished model and voice lines and bolt fucking sucks to use
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So what was Yoshis reasoning behind giving him a single target CC that removes you from a fight into his cart that lets you kidnap people across map?
unironically how do you even play against that? Unless your lane partner can hard CC him or something once his ult is over you just lose the second he uses his ult
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>>566276643
"I want Adolf Hitler in the game"
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>>566276643
There's characters that immediately kill you with their ultimates while Doorman has to use 3 abilities to do the same and it can potentially be interrupted.
Also it's funny.
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>>566276643
>you just lose the second he uses his ult
nigga, get indomitable or counterspell or some shit
you can even dispel magic his cart; he is extremely counterable
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>>566275953
Most of these coaches charge you a retarded amount to point out basic mistakes that you can just fix by watching your own replay, it's easy for anyone to point out mistakes and learn what went wrong when you are watching a replay as you can analyze things much better and you don't need a coach for that.

For everything else that needs to be learned such as macro, there's a billion guide videos that cover them with a much better presentation since they are edited and formated properly.
>>566276079
Deathy and Natan are probably the best general guidemakers that I'm aware of, heresy isn't bad his videos are just poorly presented. you can't go wrong with any of them just pick whichever appeals to you most.
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>>566276964
Thank you kindly for the response, anon
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>>566275883
Watch your own replay or get a friend with more hours than you to watch you play. Boom I just saved you $50
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>>566275162
>>566276964
I can't watch Heresy because his voice sounds identical to a non-passing redneck tranny I have in one of my college classes
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>>566277512
Holy fuck yeah the voice hurts my ears.
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>>566275254
Haze players are on autopilot I swear. Easily one of the most boosted group of players, entirely carried by an OP ult
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>lane against Seven in middle lane
>at every given opportunity he climbs on bridge to poke
>if I got after him he retreats but comes back the moment I leave
>keeps doing this even after the guardians fall
>the enemy team is attacking our middle walker
>he's still on that fucking bridge
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>>566275795
True they're both revenge driven characters but the setups would feel pretty different Talon is going up against an inquisition style racial supremacist group that killed his family for racial and political reasons while Holliday is hunting down one supernatural and extremely powerful psychopath murderer who killed hers for seemingly no reason at all. Same kind of tragic, vengeful backstory but the ideas and scale are quite different
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>>566275795
>Grey Talon warning her about pursuing this path of destructive revenge because he's spent so much time on it and now he's bitter, old and has nothing left, while she is still relatively young and has hope
Kino
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>>566278702
>Da Dwiftah warning her not to look for Da Troobadoh because he's even more of a scary ass nigga than da Dwiftah
Kino...
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It only makes sense that Mina is hard to catch. You want your snack to be a reward for hard work.

God, just imagining Mina getting pinned against the wall by Venator having her panties forcefully stripped, and while she cries and begs for you not to do it, you fuck her raw and cum inside her virgin pussy. Makes my breath heavy
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>>566234942
>>566266591
Imagine her giving Pocket a big wet drunk kiss under the misteltoe at the Fairfax Christmas party (Mina in background holding Pocket's drink)
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Heded to yello
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'eaded ta blooh
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>>566279113
Fucking BASED
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>>566279023
Dwiftah's warning makes it honestly sound like the Troubadour is a legit rapist. He's just looking out for Holliday, getting killed by Drifter is better than getting raped and stockholm'd.
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>>566271743
>>566275510
wasnt her sister was killed by Mr. T and thats apart of why shes so angery
the randoms killed are just why people actually know her coming into the ritual
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OUR DEFENSES ARE CRUMBLING!!!
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>>566279679
Naw he just want Holliday to be not raped when he does the raping himself
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>>566279753
>a single minion walks around the wave due to lag and attacks the walker once
THE GREEEEEEEN WAAALKEEEER IS UNDER ATAAAAAAAACK YOU NEEEEEED TO STOOOOP THE HIDDEN KING'S COOOOURT!!!!!
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>>566279113
King, finally gets the appeal of the Brat.
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>>566234942
Make sweaty and dirty again, tone down her Chad genes to something closer to NP Migu.
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>You gonna fight back? Are you really gonna let me do this to you all night?
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>>566280041
>go to lane
>it's just one weetul minion
>"archmother, what the fuck-"
>the whole enemy team appears from behind the corner
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>>566276643
The only thing that pisses me off about Doorman is once he gets CD you basically cant kill him ever and he just gets to do shit for free you should NEVER be able to just do shit for free and slowing should work on doors fuck that
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>>566280928
>once he gets CD you basically cant kill him ever and he just gets to do shit for free
liikeeeeeeee...?
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>>566280928
Just make silence remove the doors.
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>>566281209
I mean, doors ARE a movement-based ability; they help you move around..
quickly! someone submit this to the forums!
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Doorman is a fucking bloody bhenchod character played by dalit sons of whores.
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>Mina's wish is pocket dick
Kinda waste of a wish for something so mundane.
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>>566281465
they/them dick too powerful
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>>566281459
>WELCOME TO INDIA, SAAR!!!
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with shit like gunbop i feel like deadlock is falling into the trap of "everything has to be viable" like league of legends did
as if it's not ok to just make some heroes strictly gun/spirit
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spirit venator
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>>566281849
Everything has to be viable and every character should have carry potential if they're fed. There I said it.
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>>566281849
problem is that it's way too fun to stomp the enemy team into oblivion, and you're hard-punished for playing incomplete, de-favoritized, or barely updated characters who are fun, but are seriously lacking in the powercreep adjustments the other heroes are getting
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>>566281849
>gunbop
>gunvictor
>gunlash
I even see apollos building gun now, they fucked the game up
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>>566282150
>I even see apollos building gun now
What do you want them to do, when Apollo falls off a cliff lategame?
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>>566282150
they fucked the game up when they nerfed utility into oblivion, even before they giganerfed spirit last patch
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>>566281189
what do you mean
>liiikeeeee
he runs up to the entire enemy can ult them or do whatever and escape at any time it doesnt matter if he gets value or not anyone ANYONE who does that shit gets instantly melted but he can teleport 90000 kilometres away Doorman doesnt even need any greens or a 4.8k hp investment CD will have him survive anything
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>>566280928
They already nerfed his damage so much he can't function without a friend to kill people for him.
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>>566282275
now without spirit or utility meta it's just
>oh, you're not a carry? too fuckin bad you're going to be at an inherent disadvantage for the entire match lol
or it's also just
>oh, you have a silver, rem, and a graves on your team? tough fucking luck, we got a venator, a warden, and a dynamo on our team. prepare to fucking croak my nigga
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>>566282447
>he ults and runs away
>they escape easily, achieving nothing
But you're still seething. Doorman trolling victim mentality.
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>>566282150
>gun build
>look inside
>toxic bullets
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>>566282873
Venator is the only honest (and actual) m1gger, everyone else builds spirit
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>>566282873
it helps immensely with gun builds regarding anti-heal, and just finishing off enemies who are already close to dying after you deal a bajillion damage to them with your gun
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>it's bad for gun to be good in a 3rd person shooter
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how it feels to punch the comeback urn out of someone ivy ulted as mina
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I'm hardstick initiate 2. How am I supposed to rank up?

I have a 40% win rate. I lose constantly because of my dogshit teammates. What are you even supposed to do?
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>>566283278
Gun isn't good though. That's why all the m1keys are building DOT slop like toxic bullets and escalating exposure
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>>566282873
>orange item that works by shooting your gun
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>>566283278
3rd person ASSFAGGOTS*
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>>566283278
mf that's a strawman
it's not that gun being good is a bad thing, but that gun being the best, undeniable option when running meta builds sucks all of the nuance out of the building system
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When is yoshi buffing graves? I'm tired of waiting
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>>566282747
lmao what is this supposed to be
this is sick
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>>566284021
It's a current art trend to redraw this panel from Invincible as various other characters
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ye deinstalled, 1 parry to much. i gonna play quake champions again
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>>566282747
big nigfernus
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>>566283474
vyper is good without dots
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>>566284537
>gun pocket is still allowed
>every other spirit character that could build gun was executed
why?
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>Billy repeatedly running it down, heavy meleeing and getting parried over and over
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lashniggers will deal 1/3rd of your hp with a single spell 5 minutes into the game and try to tell you with a straight face that their hero is honest because you can counterspell your way out of his ult or something
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>>566285251
Lash is honest.
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>>566285251
He's a jump around hero therefore inherently dishonest
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>>566285251
All movement heroes are dishonest
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>>566285251
Okay bebop
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I miss the Sapphire flame. Fuck the shartmother and her yelling
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>>566286197
>Exact same voice actor
>But the old line delivery was 100x better
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any characters that have a decent power curve throughout the game, but also aren't aim intensive? I assume graves but i already play her and kelvin.
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>>566285251
>you're on yellow or green against a lash there's multiple places he will ground strike from
>but thats too much thinking so fuck it I JUST WANNA HOLD FORWARD AND SHOOT CREEPS
people like you ruin this fucking game why not play Overwatch
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>>566286504
>VA delivering lines while gurgling barbecue sauce and smoking cigs was "100x better"
Yeah, no. It was awful. Sapphire flame sounds like some fuckoff deviantart username, Archmother? The ARCHMOTHER? Cool as fuck name. The Archmother has a much better design, too. If you still think the Sapphire Flame was actually better than the Archmother, you're truly trying too hard at being an extreme contrarian.
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>>566286720
mo lady giest and ivy
>graves
>decent power curve
??
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I still play Bell-Doorman.
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>>566286967
one of the only valid ways left to playing doorman, I'm afraid
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>>566246736
Valve should add Neco Arc to Deadlock (after Hoodwink)
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>Yamato can just fucking teleport through walls with her grapple
>It's not even a skillshot
Nerf this Jap already
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>>566286941
yeah graves doesn't feel god awful because at least I can eviscerate towers when left alone and if I get the jump on some one m1'ing them is usually good enough before someone else shows up. Ill try giest out of that list.
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>>566280814
>entire enemy team is alive
>my team does mid
>walker gets pushed by minions
>go to clean it up
>instead of contesting mid with rem and dynamo ult they all jump my ass and ult me as I clear the four troopers that got to walker
>win the game
what was their plan?
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Yoshi says fuck your draft mode.
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/forums/team-composition-reports.238/
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>>566226732
None. I have completely accepted that i will probably never rise in rank above oracle.
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>>566282747
>the REM
kek
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>>566282476
His bells shit out damage you lying nigger
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>>566286843
>dude just never stand in half(or more depending on the side) of the lane so he can't drop down on you!
this is why you faggots are dishonest,
"if you don't want him to chunk down a 3rd of your hp just give up the lane" is never going to be an intellectually honest argument
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>>566286504
nah I agree. The one voiceline I single out is how the old Amber Hand said "they will return and we must be ready" in a perfectly normal delivery but the new one has the emphasis all weird, now it sounds more like "THEY will return, and WE must be ready." Like they gave the VA notes that were "yo can you get excessively theatric here? I want it to sound ZESTY." It just sounds strictly worse.
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>>566282476
boundless spirit, spirit rend, mystic expansion and ballistic enchantment imbuing his bell would like to have a word with you
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>>566288075
how hard is it to buy knockdown, or slowing hex my nigga
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>>566287258
It didn't even feel that bad when she did this until they made it deal melee damage and turned backstabber into stalker and now if you're ever trying to disengage she noclips to you with the most braindead gap closer in the entire game, slows you and applies a bleed, then heals half her health with her 3 and decapitates you with her 1 or she's retarded and you walk under a tower and she doesn't cancel it and gets raped to death unless she has her ult up then you get raped to death.
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please yoshi
please give me my fucking shiv nerfs back please yoshi
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>>566289161
SOFTENIN' 'EM UP
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KNIFE OUT



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