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Yet Another Peni edition

>News
Path to Doomsday: Avengers Limited Time Mode Reveal: https://youtu.be/prgi9DELhjc?si=LNj4sCRdk5plbZjb

Blood Hunt PvE Mode Reveal: https://youtu.be/Zd8xPgLCQkw?si=R_zSZ6Cphn5d6iL7

Black Cat Character Reveal: https://youtu.be/qn7a5F9oJwo

ESU Open Day Event: https://x.com/i/status/2044445651661168813

Version 20260417 Balance Post: https://www.marvelrivals.com/balancepost/20260414/41667_1295988.html

Lower Manhattan Map Reveal: https://youtu.be/ChBE64P3Ams

>Store
Winter Soldier’s Starlit Gunslinger and Venom’s War of the Realms skins: https://x.com/MarvelRivals/status/2052063412012601587?s=20

FREE! Loki's Twilight Aurora Disney+ exclusive skin: https://x.com/i/status/2050243900925735035

Iron Man & Loki's The Avengers and Elsa Bloodstone's Bloody Butler skins: https://x.com/i/status/2048839680230125806

Gambit's Alluring Ace and Magik's Netherworld Noble skins: https://x.com/i/status/2046242668506702272

Black Cat's Urban Predator, Spider-Man's Peter Parker: The Photographer, and Blade's Starlit Shadow skins: https://x.com/i/status/2044098474371592652

Iron Fist’s Lin Shao: The Knockout and Jeff The Landshark’s Maid to Chomp skins: https://x.com/i/status/2041169240045097174

Cloak & Dagger's Daring Duo and Captain America's Brett Hendrick: The Star skins: https://x.com/i/status/2036118339370586501

Punisher's Marauder Marksman: https://x.com/i/status/2033996794342838398

>Links
Hero Hot List: https://marvelrivals.com/heroes_data/
Guides & News: https://marvelrivals.gg/
Tracker Resources: https://rivalstracker.com
Mobalytics Page: https://mobalytics.gg/marvel-rivals
FANDOM Wiki: https://marvelrivals.fandom.com/

Checkpoint: >>566140876
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Psylocke’s game
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How do I counter Squirrel Girl and Hawk on the same team?
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Sex with Thor
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>>566231187
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>>566231187
my tongue belongs in there
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>>566231262
Dive kills both
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stop throwing my games please i'm trying to hit gm
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>>566231262
>how do I counter a low mobility, low fire rate, high damage, backline artillery dps
Gee if only they were similar at all so you could counter them both at the same time
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>won 5 straight
>won my rank up and got mvp
I hit diamond and no longer have to play ranked
I will now play Emma in QP and not give one single fuck if we win or lose
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>>566232181
Based
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Storm is Dracula property
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>>566232181
this but white fox
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>>566232037
Aw hell naw, they done fucked up groot’s rhinoplasty
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>>566232181
hit gm for the little icon thing and then you can be done, its pretty easy to do
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can anyone explain why people talk about sue like she's literally raping the entire enemy team by herself. the way people talk about sue is the way people talk about launch daredevil. i'm not seeing it. yeah she's strong and the self shield was a dumb buff, but i don't get it.
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I'M FUCKING TIRED OF PLAYING MAGNETO EVERY GAME BUT HE'S STILL THE BEST TANK I HAVE. I FUCKING HATE IT. THING WAS MY SECOND BEST BUT DEVS KILLED HIM WITH THE CC UPDATE. MAG IS BORING TO PLAY, I MISS MY ULT 90% OF THE TIME I PLAY HIM, AND THE WORST PART IS I WIN WITH HIM THE MOST OUTTA EVERY OTHER TANK. I FUCKING HATE IT.
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>>566233063
>Disappear!
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>>566231002
>Peni edition
Remember to beat up caroltard on sight
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qY24uivPTFg
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>>566233063
Most match-dictating ult in the game and is strong against all the things support is supposed to be weak to. And honestly isn't weak to anything. Counters an absurd number of heroes for a support while also being one of the best at straight healing. And her M1 spam does as much or more healing than others while also piercing and doing decent damage.
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>>566232431
i have no idea why she’s a giant bat and I don’t really care but it’s kinda hot
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>>566233372
Because Dracula made her a vampire
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cumhole.
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Official Storm nipples
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I'd rather deal with Sue than deal with DD, Magik, Spider-Man, C&D, or Groot.
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I'm just gonna post a bunch of 80s era Storm chessecake pages because I can't sleep and because I want to
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>>566234120
for me, it's the other way around
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>>566219425
Worse, it was QP with friends and their friends.
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>>566234145
I said this and then everything I saved turned out to be .webp and I'm too lazy to convert
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I legit thought, since season 1, that Star Lord said "Leeeerooooy Jeeenkiiins" during his ult.
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>>566235060
Hasn't he been in space since the 80's? How would he know about Leroy Jenkins?
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>>566235060
sex with luna
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>emma coal
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Soon
>>566233204
Uh oh
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>>566234145
I hope next season is Savage-land themed and we get this costume for Storm
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Only here for the porn
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>>566235646
more like Carl Manvers am I right?
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who is most likely to be the next new character?
autists do not need to reply
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>Balanced in all things
Guang Gaung is telling me I don't belong in GM1
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>>566236747
i had this but with 3 win/loss intervals
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>>566235605
Tony is a lucky guy…
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>>566236637
Cyclops
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>get cooked because a tankpool refuses to swap to support despite groot and magneto handling up
>tankpool : i dont even play tank lol

are people literally retarded in this game?
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>>566236637
it will be cyclops or devil dinosaur
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>>566237065
he probably doubled down, i do that every time when i fuck up the game
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>>566236637
>>566236950
Cyclops makes sense since we've been getting whos for 3 months. But Devil Dino is likely to be first
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>>566237065
don't tell me to swap or i throw
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>>566237484
i dont understand how these people can climb
i mean, i do that to sometimes but i mostly just go with suggestions because i too make suggestions when really needed
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Perfect 50%WR on my mains
I'm ending the season here. See you in 8.0 anons
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reed bros...
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>>566238227
multi dimension storytelling is so retarded
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>>566233062
What are you complaining about? That they fixed the lighting?
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Brother in christ. I didn't get to hulk magneto because this support tard wanted to flex tank? his angela was like watching a trainwreck
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>>566238696
>iw abuser
lol
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Do it, Danny!
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>antennae don't even come off on the beach
Are they actually stuck on there?
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Gooning to Venom
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>>566238696
>cnd lord
no....we were supposed to be brothers anakin...
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>>566240829
>antennae
It's a tiara, you uncultured swine
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>>566241551
God forbid someone plays one of the best supports to climb
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>4dps instalocks
>none of them fill other roles
>one of them cries all game that his main was banned
>all 4 get diffed by the enemy dps
thank guanguang
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>>566241735
its funny, because they're all do it again
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>>566241626
Prove it.
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Celestial is wild. People just be feeding trying to take space. They don't even push cart
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i hate it when we get a pick and i push up as a tank and die because no one communicated that their venom jumped on my supports and everyone else turned
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anyone want to play qp
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>>566245426
i would but im on the c(l)ock
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https://files.catbox.moe/li1un4.mp4
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>>566238696
>Light Explosion Accuracy 80
>Terror Cape Accuracy 12
for someone who insists supports are easy, you sure don't know how to play 'em properly
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>Strange player uses portal in overtime
>wins the battle and saves the day
>Strange player uses portal with 1 minute left
>loses the entire game by essentially wasting 2 fights at once
Every fucking time. Those quirky lets portal on the highground plays never work out. It never works out to just throw in a portal when only half your team is at spawn either. And it especially doesn't work to portal right next to their tanks instead of targeting the squishy supports.
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>>566247016
sorry, im blind and feel retarded
i will delete the post in shame
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>>566247074
What was it
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>>566247285
i looked at internal bond 10k healing instead of 44k total healing and not total healing and said that he wasnt playing support the whole game
im ashamed of myself
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>>566232181
>play tank in QP
NGMI
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>>566247362
i cant proof read my posts either, it's over for me
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>>566246260
Nigga, when I play Support its because I have to fill. I dont know how to abuse them or the perfect protocol for every single thing. Like yeah I have a general idea of when you should ult, or when to heal someone, pocket specific players but Im not entirely good at this role. I can fill, thats about it. And I hate filling, which is why it makes it frustrating that I had to fill for a guy who only plays support, who probably knows it way better than me, and I get fucked over?

There is literally an entire playlist dedicated to learning, throwing, and messing around. Doing this shit in comp is just retarded.
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The big problems in this game that makes it a mess to play
>too much mobility
>too much cc
>too much melee
>healing too high and no widespread antiheal
>too homogenized design
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shuri skin for bp to promote tokon
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Ass character for an ass game, get Marvel's canon butt girl in!!
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>>566247808
give specific examples of each
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Is there a better feeling than 6 people upvoted all 6 people in team after the match?
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>>566248501
yes, get IW ban through
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>>566247953
Too many heroes have dashes, leaps, jumps and sometimes multiple charges or low cooldown. This makes everyone just zoom all over the place.
Too many heroes have cc, almost the entire roster, including dps have one or more cc. This leads to constant disruptions that just makes it feel worse to play. There should be fewer more meaningful ones. The devs feel a ton of cc is "required" because of the tons of mobility, yet the cc doesn't solve the mobility issue either.
Too much melee means too many heroes need to be out of position like tanks or can quickly become underwhelming. Half the tank pool is melee and it hurts them and their team.
Excessive healing and lack of antiheal shouldn't need to be explained.
Too many heroes follow too much of a similar framework for design. Most healers heal with their primaries, have big aoe heal ults, etc. Most dps for some reason have cc, bonus hp generation, dashes or similar, etc. If it wasn't for the item shop, Black Cat would've been a standard melee diver, which is why it feels like the store was slapped on.
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>>566248501
>upvoting
Pointless pure faggotry that isn't even tracked. I would skip the entire pointless post match screens if I could.
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>>566248589
Yeah. Elsa and Black Cat are good examples of bad game design, the best characters are the ones that are simple and require actual thought and not just combo spamming. Kits being built around comboing is really bad, its just feeding into doing reptitive behavior
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>>566247664
Nice hairline
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Olivia Octavius when
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>Tony Stark became Secretary of Defense in 2003 right after the invasion of Iraq
That's hilarious. They should bring that up in game.
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>>566248723
>Pointless
Exactly.
And yet, the whole team decided to upvote for everyone else.
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game would be much better if dive gets nerfed.
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>>566252531
What fucking dive? Just say you're stuck in silver
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>>566252610
I am, can you help me?
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>>566252690
being stuck in silver is the same as not being able to join the army because your IQ is too low
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>>566252610
>what fucking dive

Are you blind?
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>>566252531
>if dive gets nerfed.
Dive is so bad because they fucking teleport around too much.
If all dives are like Captain, I wouldn't have complain about it.
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is the game fun again? used to be one above all but the game was ruined when emma released
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>>566252901
Nigger lovers in this general say magik isn't dive
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The game mode is so shit that they are asking why they failed.
KEK
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>>566253172
doesnt work that way but ok
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>>566217171
>Forced 50/50 is and always has been a schizophrenic delusion. A 50% win rate is simply the consequence of being in your correct rank.
i mean some game developers in the past have explicitly said that they try to engineer a 50% match probability for every match using all the metrics they have available. that isn't the same as conspiring to keep players at the same rank, but it effectively makes everyone really sticky to their rank. i do think marvel rivals uses a similar system and the developers legit just don't understand how the rank stickiness might come off ass EOMM, hence why they refuse the idea of it. in their minds, it's just good matchmaking to predict a 50% win probability for a match with decent accuracy.
>If you aren't better than the average player in your rank, why would you expect to climb?
i believe i touched on that in my post. you can climb but it just takes fucking forever because of the stickiness

i think it really tracks that the same developers that create idiosyncratic, counterintuitive systems like the tenacity thing are also liable to make terrible decisions with matchmaking
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>>566253171
>magik isn't dive

What else is she then?
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>>566248501
probably cute sexy girl giving you blowjob
but I'm not sure, I'm a virgin
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>>566253103
No it's infinitely worse now
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To the guy who was Nicoposting last thread: you may have some hope, this is official
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>>566253903
>Snap
It ain't for us.
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>>566253964
I'm just saying, she's in the zeitgeist, and these are going to be variant covers in actual comics in July
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>>566253103
Is to me, universal ult nerf helped a lot. Emma has been getting nonstop nerfs
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>>566253316
She is dive. Faggots just don't want her to get banned
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>>566254195
Also: I pray
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>>566253103
I'm not a retard playing ranked like most morons ITT, I'm still having a lot of fun
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>>566254406
Magik isn't as bad as Spiderman, DD or BP.
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>>566254438
And
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>>566253103
If emma/flyer/ meta is what drove you away, you will probably enjoy this season. But triple support is here to stay
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triple support is what bad players play when they're getting stomped
that's also why it's only at 10% wr, because the players are bad
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>>566253903
Why does Marvel underutilize their goth baddies? Do they hate money?
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>>566254556
Why does she dress like that?
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>>566254940
for her luna duo
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>>566253315
> i mean some game developers in the past have explicitly said that they try to engineer a 50% match probability for every match using all the metrics they have available
Isn’t that the point of all skill based matchmaking? I think the problem in this game’s matchmaking comes from the inherent volatility with open q and lack of IP bans of smurfs/alt accounts since it removes stakes.
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man, the gun sound on bucky's new skin freaking SUCKS. i like the idea but it just lacks the bass of the original. and the bucky community is too brooding to get it changed
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https://files.catbox.moe/rz8bkj.mp4
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>>566255018
Why are you trans
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>>566253964
Also, I'm grasping at straws, but she's on this and the Cap story listed under August is Cap's backstory in Rivals
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>>566252901
>retards still using official site
>retards still not understanding how winrate works
>retards still thinking dive is overpowered
>retards still thinking heroes like iron fist is overpowered
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>>566255378
cope
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>>566254586
Its a bit weird Jean is being used for Uncanny considering she isn't on that team or in that book at all

Actually she's not on any of the three teams. What the fuck is she doing these days? Still stuck in the WHR?
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>>566253316
Magik is brawl, not dive. Her entire kit is built around hitting multipel targets and is bad for elevation mobility.
Idiot's think Magik is dive because Umbral is burst, but burst is what any good brawl needs otherwise you turn into a trashcan that can't kill anything like Reed.
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>>566255426
Yes you're coping hard. You get shat on by dive and don't want to admit you suck ass so you look for cope you can point to and go
>seee,seeeee?! i'm not bad! dive is op! that's why i keep dying and get flamed by my team!
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>>566255020
>Isn’t that the point of all skill based matchmaking?
man i just talked about that in the original post. having an MMR system and trying to engineer a 50% win probability by metrics other than your MMR is just two systems fighting each other.

the MMR system can't figure out who deserves which rank unless it allows the guy with a 80% predicted win chance to go up against the 20% win chance shitter. currently, at least valve has admitted to trying to match these people together based on recent winrate (and probably machine learning tricks) to ensure that the predicted 50% win probability for the match holds true.

just like the most barest, cleanest example is: if you have a platinum player stuck in a celestial lobby, how are you going to put him into matches while still achieving a 50% win probability for everyone? does it make any sense to give him 50% win probability, when he shouldn't be at that rank to begin with? eventually the system IS going to allow him to fall, but it's going to fight it by using the win probability shenanigans to keep him sticky to his rank. that's what's causing people to burn out in games that use "too much" matchmaking, the feeling of not having your own good/shit plays matter because the matchmaking system tries to subvert them
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>>566255592
brawl and dive is the same thing lmao
>>566255743
take your meds, imagine trying to tell me dd is balanced.
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>clueless /mrg/ posters talking about matchmaking again
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can the game please stop giving me forced losses during my ranked placements
I just want my White Fox skin
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>>566256216
server?
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>>566255931
>believing the company who tried to sell you mods
Do you believe Trump when he says he didn't know Epstein was sex trafficking underage girls? Matchmaking will always be rigged in someway it just starts for some people in a higher rating.
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>>566254910
Nico is a good girl.
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>>566254406
>magik
70% dive 30% brawl
>black cat
80% dive 20% brawl
>spidey, bp
100% dive 0% brawl
>iron fist
30% dive 70% brawl
>dd
60% dive 40% brawl
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>>566255828
>brawl and dive is the same thing lmao
Dive/Flanking is approaching from off angles with high mobility and bursting individual targets down quickly and getting out. To use OW as an example Genji, Tracer and Sombra are dive.
They're basically sneaky assassins.

Brawl are about engaging in multiple targets, having sustain to stay in the fight for longer and generally deal damage over time or to multiple enemies, but often they have 1 ability with a bit of burst to it to allow them to secure kills on enemies getting low.
They're teamfighters fighting with their team against multiple enemies.

Magik is brawl. Spider-man is dive.
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>>566256448
>believing a company
It's bog standard practice. But you're right, it's better to have completely ignorant people make wild baseless assumptions for how the systems work where not a single one of them being consistent in their "analysis" or understanding, because surprise surprise it's all ignorant wild assumptions heavily colored by emotions and not facts.
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>>566256582
That's not what baddie means, ESL-kun
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>>566256448
desu attention seeking aside i don't think they even "try" to rig the matchmaking, it's just the natural consequence of being retarded and fucking with the system without understanding the full effects. it reeks of the same kind of design language as tenacity where they try to "fix" something by stacking more shit on top, and just end up making it worse
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>>566256678
Extremely accurate post. I was gonna debate this in autistic detail but I realized I agree entirely
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>>566256880
glad it doesnt say smart or intelligent
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>>566256448
You have an entire video of Zhiyong breaking down how their matchaking works and you still make wild theories and the #1 thing messing up matchmaking is always stacking.
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>>566256678
Magik is not dive, she is brawl. If you don't grasp this you don't understand her kit at all.
Same deal with Iron Fist. Iron Fist however is harder to break down because his kit on paper looks like brawl but he's extremely bad at it. If they separated Dragon's Defence from Yat Yee and didn't make his mediation force you to disengage he would function better as brawl.
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>mangik makes his team ban namor
>makes his team go triple support
>still loses
Get shit on
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>>566257340
Top Magiks play her as dive with occasional brawl during downtime, why do you think you know better?
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>>566257482
He doesn't want her to get nerfed
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>>566257482
>Magik's passive
Gains bonus hp based on damage dealt. More enemies hit = more bhp.
>Magik's primary
6.5m range, this is bigger than many aoe abilities hero have and 2.5m wider and longer than other melee heroes. More bhp with more targets.
>slash projectile
Pierces and gives more bhp per targets hit. So get more value both in damage and bhp with targets.
>Disc portals
Short horiztonal invul jump, bad to traverse terrain or being sneaky. Good for dodging things during big fights.
>whirl
Low 50dmg aoe attack. Bad single target for damage and bhp, much better used in groups.
>demon
Bad 1v1 because enemies instantly kill it or walk out of it. In teamfights other things go on so demon won't be instantly focused and can be harder to just walk out. Way more useful in groups, almost useless 1v1.
>Ult
Massively increases her aoe range and damage, by far best used in larger fights to get value from the aoe damage and bhp generation.
>Umbral
Her only good 1v1 (but can hit multiple) ability. Everything else is best for groups and brawl. But this burst is to help her secure kills during fights. Because if you only have low damage you turn into Fantastic which is only survivability and no burst, so he has severe problems securing kills in fights.
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>>566254586
s8 mystique cyclops screencap this
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>>566255751
>the MMR system can't figure out who deserves which rank unless it allows the guy with a 80% predicted win chance to go up against the 20% win chance shitter.
Yeah this is true, but this skill disparity happening in a ranked system outside of the lowest ranks is a low probability. This would be a sign of boosting, and should flag the account in a competent system. This is also a natural effect of the duo system, which the playerbase enjoys. So would you rather have
>You get the shitter, which guarantees a loss
>The shitter stinks up the matchmaker, until he slowly falls into their intended rank
>Removing “legal” boosting, and banning smurfs/alt accounts limiting how many shitters goes through (never zero)
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every lord gambit i've had on my team has been dogshit
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>>566257340
she is designed to be more of a brawler but she's not very good at actually brawling (unlike daredevil) so she ends up functioning better when leaning more towards a dive playstyle
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>>566233204
PENI PARK HER
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPMB-rOumxw
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>>566248501
5 people upvoting everyone except for one guy
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>>566258194
All theorycraft in the face of what actually happens in a match
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>>566258486
I see nothing but fake lords now
18v18 lord grinders are all shit
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>>566255378
>>retards still not understanding how winrate works

How does it work?
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>>566259725
He doesn't know either. It's just one of his excuses whenever someone starts trying to get magik nerfed
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>>566259725
We win, I rate you up.
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i told a hulk player he was hot cause he shielded me alot but then next match when he was against me he kept exiling me & humping me...
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That didn't happen. Why do troons make up fantasies like this
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>the average ban phase is comprised almost entirely of new heroes
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So what’s your prediction on the next theme for season 8? Szn 7 was mostly dive/wall hacks, and szn 6 was upgrades
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swimsuit theme next season boys get hype
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>>566260901
I ban DD/Groot personally
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>had another match thrown by a tank player
whiniest role prove me wrong
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>>566261425
every role is full of whiners
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>decide to flex in morning QP
>teammates let me pick DPS
>this has happened every day for the past 3 days
What's going on?
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>>566261425
i dont think they whine that much desu

tank players in overwatch are infernal animals though, because they are insulated from criticism by the role queue thing
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c>>566259725
>How does it work?

Winrate without context = meaningless.
Winrate in a 1v1 game and team game is vastly different.
A hero could be OP at high level and coordinated play, but crap at lower levels with poor coordination.
A hero could be popular, but played by a lot of players not good at the hero, this drags winrate down.
A hero could be less popular or mainly played in some scenarios, these one trick players that dedicate a lot of time to getting good at the hero can massively inflate winrates.
A hero could be bad against playstyles or heroes thatare currently popular, but not bad as a whole, or vice versa.
A hero could benefit from buffs to other heroes, that could for instance be better at protecting them, with these heroes being played more, but might otherwise be weak.
Etc etc etc

It's a huge complex subject, so just dumbing it down to
>x winrate is higher means x is better than y and y is crap
is flat out stupid. If you don't understand the data, that data can even make you make completely wrong assumptions, which is even worse. Especially you base design balancing decisions around it.
Take Magneto's winrate, even at higher ranks he has one of the lowest winrates amongst tanks. So is Magneto bad and one of the worst tanks?

At mid to large size game companies there are dedicated data analysts that parse the data and then communicate with the designers, so ensure all the data is understood. So some clown on /mrg/ coming in pointing to month old winrate data as some hard proof of "X is overpowered!" as anecdotal evidence to deflect away from them dying so much or something is utter stupidity.
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>>566261425
>whiniest role prove me wrong
Strategists are, by far. The entire game is balanced around their whining.
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nobody reads your post paragraph writer.
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>>566262685
lame ahh post
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>>566260461
do rivals healsluts like tankcels or chudps more?
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>>566256216
you want some help? i got a silver placement account
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>>566263269
You're right, better to just write one line shitposts. That's the limit of what the zoomer brain can handle and makes this general the worst on the board.
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who should i play as a new player
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>>566264582
/fng/ exists
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>>566265281
whoever you want
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>>566264270
hmm.. usually i prefer tanks since DPS are the ones who bully me but punisher players who peel are literally so hotttt..
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>>566258194
Not you again, didn't you already get walked around and made the thread retard for this take before?
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>>566265281
whichever female character makes you say "guh"
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>>566265465
I have no idea what schizo ramblings you're on about but you deflecting over providing any counter arguments says it all. Concession accepted. In the real world you disprove things with arguments, not juvenile deflections and shitposts like you do.
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>>566265558
guh...
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>>566260461
why is she a bobblehead
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>>566265281
Doesn't matter, no one but insane people play this casual game seriously.
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dude, I just tried Human Torch, and he's so super good now.
Why is nobody playing him?
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>>566265936
no healz in the skybox ( i don't look up)
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>>566265558
>>566265784
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>>566265936
healers already have a hard time looking at anything that isn't dead in front of them you really wanna play someone who sits in the sky?
Also I swear in like 70% of my games when I try to go Human Torch someone on their team has conveniently picked Angela (not even like a counter-pick they just started on them)
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>>566265429
dumb slut
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>>566266675
what the
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>>566265876
why arent you?
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>>566267195
why isn't he?
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>>566267418
umm, actually no! i STAND with the anon who isn't a bobblehead! he doesn't need to explain himself to you! why are you pestering him?! back off.
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everyone should become a bobblehead
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>>566261425
>whiniest role prove me wrong
I don't remember tankfags ever initiating a tank strike, like how supportsissies did...
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>>566265615
Truly schizophrenic behavior to reply concession accepted to someone's first post in a conversation. I recognize the same posting and arguments, I know it's you. Everyone told you you were retarded then, too.
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>>566261425
i find the most whiny retards to be one or more of the other 4 players when i ban out someone on my team who hovered IW
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>>566265936
The top 3 duelists rape him for free
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>>566267621
christ, you just save whatever appears on your twitter feed huh
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>>566261425
In my personal experience DPS are by far the most likely to complain about their team, but its also the role I play the least and I don't usually complain about the team, so statistically its the role I am most likely to see a complainer in.

To make the math simple, we'll pretend I never play DPS (this also gives DPS the best chance here), that means a complainer has a 2/5 chance to be DPS by role, a 40% chance

I feel like complainers are well over 50% dps. More like 80%.

I also notice when I do play DPS, people do not complain to me often. When someone does, its usually the other DPS.

Conclusion: DPS is the whiniest role in-game

Outside of the game, speaking in a general sense, its probably tank. But is it really whining when everyone agrees tanking feels like this?
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>>566262685
Reasonable human being and nuanced discussion in /mrg/? What is the world coming to.
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>>566268604
whats twitter
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>>566268648
Its whining, just justified whining
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>replaces widow completely


I cant wait
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>>566268648
On the other side of things, you're way less likely to get complimented or recognized as DPS unless you're hard carrying. Tanks will praise healers just about any time they didn't die when they expected to

I think

>Likelihood of bitching about teammates
DPS
[Power gap]
Support
Tank

>Likelihood of bitching about their role overall
Tank
Support
[Power gap]
DPS (I have never seen this even once)

>Likelihood of getting bitched about by teammates
Support
Tank
DPS

>Likelihood of getting complimented
Support
Tank
DPS

>Likelihood of giving compliments
Tank
[Power gap]
DPS
Support
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>>566269397
shamed for liking dogturd carol that this is what you do now?
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>>566269397
Honestly just give her Widow's entire kit (it fits her better) and give widow a kit that actually uses her signature wrist guns
Sable should probably have some kind of mines too, though
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>>566269451
Carol is inevitable retard-kun
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>>566269397
You know what? They just might actually do that
>>566268604
That tends to be most fan art posters
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>>566231002

what the fuck does brawling with Magik even mean? I just attack the people who are attacking us? do i still try and sneak away during the fight to get a support? No matter what, the second i see a fucking Loki im switching to Moon Knight
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>>566269693
give her that 90s frame
gawddamn
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>>566253903
She has a higher chance than spuderwoman thats for sure
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>>566269971
Hero shooter classifications like brawl/dive/poke are loosey fucking goosey because anyone can brawl, anyone can dive, anyone with a projectile can poke, characters WITHOUT projectiles can sometimes do stuff described as poke, and sometimes the same word describes very different playstyles, and these three terms ALSO are used to describe stages of a fight

But basically, Magik can fight frontline-ish if she wants once the teams collide and the "brawl" phase starts. In practice, this is usually after a dive, maybe getting a pick, but your team actually pushes up (never happens with randos) and then you stay in the fight instead of retreating. She can do that because of her passive, mostly

She's definitely dive first brawl second but brawl sucks ass in this game

There are some places where dive doesn't work, like the first gate in Kun Lun, so you have to brawl your way through first
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>>566270690
Facts I put bucky under brawl
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>>566264582
most here are millenitroons albeit
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>>566256448
What a strange thing to bring up out of nowhere.
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>>566239675
Cute. Logan’s a lucky guy.
>>566247664
Probably didn’t even feel that.
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hes breaking the game over his knee and climbing too fast? send *him*
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>>566270890
I'm too autistic to recognize if this is facetious or not, but I think that's reasonable. He's very much a poke/brawl hybrid, he does best whe he's at mid-range and then brings you close-range. His gun can pseudo-pierce, he gets armor on his punch, he does a lot better in the melee than taking potshots from afar (though he can do that, too)

He also fits brawl by the brawl > dive > poke > brawl triangle, though he's less bad against poke than he is good against dive (part of why he's so strong despite nerfs)
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>>566271779
Adam was a problem but so was the 1/3/2 lineup
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>>566271982
desu aside from the retarded comp the dps were quite competent, there simply just wasn't enough healing. if he had gone rocket and held down m2 we would have won easily
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>>566271792
bucky, cummyhole, reed and magik is the only brawl picks in this game,elsa was riding that line with all that overshield she was stacking
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>>566271982
>>566272123
to clarify meme/grief comps dont bother me at all. it only bothers me if players are forcing them despite being bad. ie. i prefer if my 3 dps mains are on dps than see them clown around on groot or some shit
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bullying bots as Hulk in Practice vs AI is the way the game is meant to be played
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>>566249885
You’ll get the loli and like it
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>>566254438
i want this one but it’s probably not happening
>>566254586
this one is whatever but probably not happening either
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>>566270506
PLEASE I BEG YOU
MORE GOTH BADDIES, I'M SHIT AT MAGIK I JUST PLAY PUNKROCK HELA, I NEED ANOTHER
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>>566272258
You forgot the ever-lovin' blue-eyed Thing
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>>566255297
all yuritards are deranged
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>>566254910
Too busy writing them into awful stories.
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>>566272730
I wish Marvel was writing The Terrible Eye into awful stories because it would mean they were writing her into stories
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>>566272282
I dunno I feel like any one of them could pick Venom and mindlessly do the rotation and provide more value unless they're diffing hard. Solo tank just sucks ass, double with Adam in 2 sup. You kill that one guy (or even just burn all his cooldowns) and your team can't hold/take space anymore unless they wipe the enemy team
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which one is better?
i feel like the 6329 is still stronger ,cuz i already have enough total output boost, stacking more only give me 2x damage. When Total damage bonus boost me from 50% -> 500% damage
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>>566272695
HUUUUUU UGHHHHHHHH!!!
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>>566273216
If you're just olaying venom fully mindlessly then you're just an ult battery for the enemy.
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revert her nerfs.
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>>566273539
You don't get ult charge for hitting overshield, and Venom generates a fuckton of overshield.
Either way, if he's making the team turn around, that's value and it can take pressure off the other tank. Meanwhile, I feel like situations where two DPS can't burst through someone but three can are limited. 3 DPS can work but only if those DPS are hard diffing imo
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>>566272340
There was a period of like two months where I played nothing but VS AI to grind events and shit and I will agree that it’s pretty fun at times.
For whatever reason the mode has like 10x the leavers of anything else, like 9/10 games there will be at least one person that dips out at a completely random point in the match. Maybe it’s because it’s just practice? But I’m pretty sure you get penalized anyways so I don’t know.
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>>566270506
>known as the Pride to stop their parents' evil ways.
Talk about on the nose Jesus Christ
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>>566270506
>>566272683
>her ultimate is extremely powerful and game changing
>but you can only use it once per round/quick match
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>>566275280
way too much responsibility for egirls
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get a job susan u bum
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OPEN YOUR EYES
YOUR BACKLINE BELONGS TO ME!
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>>566256880
>bad means good
always funny
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>>566275623
>member of one of the most important hero times in the world
>still can’t afford rent
New York is fucked bro, what the hell is Mayor Fisk even doing
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>>566273976
You only get a fuckton of overshield if you've already given them a fuckton of ult charge by getting low first...
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>>566276008
>BY THE EYE OF AGAMO- Ack!
>gets stunned and dies
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>>566270506
>direct reference to Runaways in the character text
Would be kino if real
>>566275280
Oh no, so like a Strange portal which is totally useful and worth having even for its insane cooldown?
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>>566277510
And then you can absorb an equal amount of damage or more without giving them shit while they shoot you instead of your team. That's not ideal but its about the lowest skill cieling playstyle in the game that still brings regular value and I'd rather have it than solo tank most of the timr

His ult also generates insane overshield.
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>>566276008
>"BY THE EYE OF-"

>POW YOUR FROZEN

>"I UNLEASH THE VA-"

>DO I THROW LIKE A GIRL?
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>>566278646
whats with this game and blue lipstick and blue mouths
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Xenomorph hero when? With alien lifecycle similar to AvP2. Imagine impregnating Sue with a facehugger, then watching the chestburster grow in her stomach.
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>>566277624
>whips support sissy ass with belt
>they try to run away
>RELEASE DARKNESS
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>>566279218
>>566278646
YOU KNOW WHY BABY
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>>566278138
No, I'm not saying Venom is bad or anything but if you're just braindead doing rotations, you're feeding ult charge. Taking damage isn't good on it's own. The best person to mindlessly cycle on is probably Mag because at least then you're protecting your team and blocking abilities and not providing charge.
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>>566279218
Idk but I hate it red, black, and pink is the only lipstick colors for me
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How do I git gud at this game? I’m gold right now. Made it to platinum in like the first season but I never really climbed that high again. To be fair I don’t really play this game that often. Is it just a matter of grinding enough matches in comp until I finally get to platinum?
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>>566275036
It makes more sense when you remember the stories she’s been in
Hopefully they give her the Angela treatment and just ignore most of her stories
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send me your most powerful agent. i can take it
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>>566280589
Its literally just a numbers game,if you play non stop no matter the skill you will make it to celestial
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>>566279926
to be fair i think there are times when literally just charging up mantis/gambit ult and pressing W is the most effective way to push and get teamfight wins
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>>566279926
Mag isn't bad either but Venom requires even less consideration. Either way, I mean, we hope the player isn't COMPLETELY retarded and does use their brain, my point is just that that's the bottom of the barrel and I'd usually rather have someone do that than go 3rd DPS unless they're gonna diff
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>>566279816
Explains blue anuses too
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>>566271779
>people still think accuracy matters

It only remotely matters when someone is close to death and a kill can be confirmed.
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>>566280589
Fix one thing about your gameplay at a time

Good ult timing can completely outpace your mechanics in terms of value

Focus more on dying less than killing more. Definitely don't feed. Don't push into a fight unless you have the advantage or its roughly even.

That alone will get you out of gold in a hurry
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>>566280770
This will literally require 1000s of games past platinum even going 50/50 unless you're getting tons of MVPs/SVPs, the point allocation gets roughly even in diamond, you might gain 2 or 3 more for a win than you drop for a loss but that's about it
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Is Peni 18?
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>>566281493
>もうー, how can I focus on my studiss when there's a giant spider web in the sky?
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>>566281609
children dont study, gotcha
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Am I retarded for not understanding how Gambit works? I mean I know he’s not the first hero with alternate forms. There’s Cloak and Dagger, Emma, White Fox. But with them switch forms seem intuitive. It all makes sense once you do it a few times. Gambit I just find confusing as fuck.
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its funny to me that gambits ult completely negates buckys ult and then also gives you a free team wipe

retarded ufcking chinese developers
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>>566281417
>>566280770
Climbing in ranked has never been easier than in Rivals. Shitters can climb to GM or even Celestial in this game.
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>>566282941
the only game where ranking up is hard is Dota.
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>>566282612
You basically have "healing form" and "damage form" available with your card forms. Then within those forms you have either "single healing/damage" or "AoE healing/damage".
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>>566282803
Gambit's Ult is like a combination of Captain America's and Iron Fist's ults, except better. No shit it's broken.
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>>566282803
Yeah DPS ults should just wipe teams every time.
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>>566280770
>>566282941
Guys please don’t get my hopes up. I have thousands of hours on Overwatch and I never made it out of silver. I am a special kind of retard. I’d like to climb to at least diamond in MR, but I think you guys are underestimating how bad someone can be at video games.
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>>566282612
I tried to think of mnemonic devices to learn all the effects, because they each do a few things, and it all got a lot easier when I realized most of the effects are just useless and to ignore them. E+E is an Adam heal, and R+R is a line shot antiheal. That's all you really have to know.
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>>566283364
desu i can kinda excuse gambits ult otherwise but the fact that it purges debuffs for no reason is like giga stupid. like why does it need to do that. its not even a defensive ult
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I wish I got that cute Marvel’s day skin for Sue. I decided not to spend more money on cosmetics for games and now I’m regretting it every time I see someone wear that skin.
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>>566283585
malice is better?
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>>566282803
>magnetos ult completely counters sue/cnd/mantis ults and then you can team wipe
>sues ult completely counters star lords ult and then you win the fight
Wow almost like ult counters happen all the time and it's normal.
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>>566282612
>Am I retarded for not understanding how Gambit works?

His card design is retarded. It's basically just pay 2 cards to use a skill, but there's an extra step in the middle for no good reason that gives you a pointless small and brief buff.
Activating healing stance allows you to follow up with 1 of 2 healing skills, activating offence stance allows you to follow up with 1 of 2 offensively skills.
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>>566283870
equating magnetos and gambits ults in power is some incredible cope
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>>566283835
>sluts
>better than cutie pies
No.
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>>566284076
Yes.
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>>566284054
Is that what I did? Is that what you think I did? Is that what you read?
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>>566284516
what makes you think i was saying that?
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running through my rivals folder and found this
is this still true?
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>>566284976
Oh sorry you're retarded by repeating what smarter people say to you back to them doesn't actually work out in most cases.
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I’m opening a portal
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>>566285589
CRACK THE WHIP!
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Lady Loki makes me horny
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>>566285912
YO this nigga want to suck my feminine penis!
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>>566286345
I'm literally always down to suck feminine penis
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>>566286345
Lady Loki has a vagina
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>>566284280
>>566283835
based ntr enjoyer
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Give me 1 good reason to play ranked in this game
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>>566287560
How about I give you a small one.
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>>566287560
throwing to piss randoms off
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>>566287560
free skins
but that's about it
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>>566287279
yea and blade doesn't have sex with dracula
pfft
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>1 game away from Gold (casual player)
>Decide to lock in at 6pm and play nonstop
>11 game loss streak
>Back down to silver 2 like 11 points
>SVP 6 out of 11 games
>2 of those are games where I Zaza'd out of rage into widow
>5 games had a spiderman (only 1 was good)
>8 games had a jeff (all were mid)
>4 games had a IW who had less healing than the other support (usually gambit)

Maybe I could have won more if I kept my mouth shut and just played to win but there is a catharsis in telling a player he's trash and then just commenting on his every move and why it's bad.

I'm probably not gonna hit gold this season but I'll make sure I ruin people's day
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Cyclops is a cuck and a retard.
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>>566253315
>i mean some game developers in the past have explicitly said that they try to engineer a 50% match probability for every match using all the metrics they have available.
Can you elaborate on this? I know a lot of games use hidden MMR but "all the metrics" could mean anything. Performance-based metrics are generally considered bad for anything but smurf detection, for example, so that shouldn't be used - is it?
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Is it me or are there actually a lot of girls playing?
>Queued up ranked
>We have a 0/7 spider man on our team
>I start typing
>Some support girl comes out and says some positivity bullshit
>Double down and swap to widow and say if Spidey doesn't swap then I'll just troll too
>2nd round we actually sorta come back
>I'm killing it on widow and Spidey sorta locked in after I made fun of him calling himself a smurf
>We're full blown typing at each other in between deaths over who has more kills (I do)
>A second girl (tank) says if we focus up we can win
>I don't and we lose

Anyway, yeah, there seems to be a lot of girls in rivals compared to my time in overwatch
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zazza..
STACK!!
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>>566253903
>>566254195
>>566254438
>Marvel is doing swimsuit cheesecake in current year
huh?
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>>566288659
hero shooters are the easiest competitive games there are
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>>566288659
Women love this game because it has hot chicks with fat tits in it and it's pretty easy to play.
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>>566288838
Not even a little bit surprising desu
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>>566288625
He's a retard. He thinks a system trying to balance out the overall mmr across the match is forced 50. This is how it should be. The main things screwing this up is that the system prioritizes matchmaking speed and allows for player stacks.
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>>566253903
This has nothing to do with rivals sonion
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>>566288659
A lot of women gravitate towards games with hero characters, like hero shooters or mobas like LoL. But most of them don't speak in voice.
There are tons of girls in Overwatch too.
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>>566288659
girls had to watch shitty MCU films like everyone else dude
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>>566288659
I’ve noticed that if a girl has an online friend group she’s probably playing Marvel Rivals.
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>>566289292
yaaaasss queen slayyyyy
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>>566289292
lmao
This is what normalfags are watching?
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>>566289087
>He thinks a system trying to balance out the overall mmr across the match is forced 50
Yeah, that's the impression I was getting as well. I don't doubt that most games use extra metrics but I assume it's shit like smurf probability, win streaks, etc.
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Give it to me straight. Is it worth it to get excited for Avengers Doomsday. I think the only post Endgame movie I liked is the Thunderbolts and that’s because of US Agent. Also I’m pretty sure all of the Thunderbolts are going to die in the first five minutes of Doomsday.
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>>566288659
>he only just realized that hero shooters are girl magnets
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>>566289843
I haven't seen anything MCU-related since Age of Snoozetron turned me off the whole franchise.
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>>566289260
>mobas
I can count on 1 finger how many girls I met in dota.
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>>566290207
There are more than you think, but most of them play or have played LoL over Dota.
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>>566289843
Well, they know if this sinks it sinks the franchise, and they're definitely going to try very hard on it. But, that's not always a good thing, to have corporate focusing on a movie so much. I'm hopeful but not excited.
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>>566290207
Women don't play Dota.
They do play League.
Any woman who's into gaming deeper than Mario and Animal Crossing has probably played League at some point.
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>>566289861
>Mercy main
>girl
That’s a troon.
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>>566290729
Cope.
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Is anyone ever gonna tell girls how to move the mouse up and 180?They think its someone else's job to protect their backside



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