Path of Exile 2: Return of the Ancientshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vxgYGGFNs98https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkCu3V81N74https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P2-BLJQCeWo[PoE 1]>3.28 Patch Noteshttps://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-forum/patch-notes>Compiled links, tools and utilitieshttps://pastebin.com/SHt8unCt[PoE 2]>Druidshttps://pathofexile2.com/druids>Ongoing 0.4 patch noteshttps://www.pathofexile.com/forum/view-forum/2212Last map >>566258607
First for BFR.
I played a bit on the last patch but holy fucking shit anything that isn't offscreening every single mob with projectiles is legitimately unplayableI don't know how can you play anything between unbillable meleecuck or a bowcuck
How much would you pay to attend a Tri conference?
Can you feel it?PoE 2 EoS is drawing nearer and nearer.
>>566297978How much are you paying me?
>>566298039Yeah that's how time works, retard.
Is poison burst Pathfinder still meta
>>566298213That's what he's saying bro, what?
>no swords
What are (you) starting in 0.5? If you reply with any variation of joke that implies that you're not going to play 0.5 you agree to gift me your immortal soul.
>>566297959>game too easy but also too difficult ;___;
>>566298386martial artist
>>566298386Probably martial artist but I'm going to wait for the patch notes desu
You should agree that it is better to have massive endgame update than new class without endgamePill hard to swallow. Why we even need class if nothing to do in endgame? Poe 1 is not receiving new classes every league, and people still play it. So will be fine guys
>>566298313Hot, hope she pissed herself.
>>566298386I don't know, I was foolishly hoping for a new class and hoping to play that, I'd really like to play something new that I never tried before, so now I'm kind of stuck trying to hype myself into playing something that already exists.
This will 100% be nerfed. Companion scaling is already pretty retarded as is.
>>566298386will only end up playing if I'm bored out of my mind on release so idk yet
>>566298386I just want to play pure dragon and spit on people.maybe this time I will make it beyond t2 maps.Dont know what class tho
>>566298670they can't keep up with you while clearing though.
>>566298386Spirit walker with the stag shit, probably lightning spear we'll see when the balance changes are in
>>566298531>marshal fartist
>>566298771Spirit walker also has a solution for that problem.
wyvern bored the shit out of me last leaguehow are plants?
>GO!>FIND THE GLADIATOR!
reminder that there is a secret ascendancy node related to Delirium
I'm taking a week off work when 0.5 hits
>>566298890I mean I was already leaguestarting huntress before it was cool so when I say "we'll see" I mean that literally.
>>566298762I wish dragon was good but it's so fucking clunky
>>566299082It's cucked for me, I have to go on a business trip on tuesday after the launch weekend, and stay there for a full week. No chance to get around it, virtually no chance to play during it.
>>566299192should be clunky desu it should look big not like an agile bird flying around.
>no new class>no new weapons>no new act>same old dogshit endgame with more shit piled on topD4 won so hard it's not even funny. Like you have to be a mentally ill tranny to still be playing poo2 instead of D4 at this point.
PoE 2 is not a well designed game overall but props to GGG for not bending to the demands of its retarded playerbase and just copy-pasting PoE 1's mapping system. Every time I hear a PoE 1 boomer whine that PoE 2 is bad because you aren't able to able to simply play the same easy high-efficiency map over and over for hours on end, and are forced to occasionally do challenging layouts by nature of the open world system, I'm a little heartened about the course of the game. They are at least trying to create an actual videogame rather than a dopamine masturbation aid.
>>566299054i thought it was monk/breach
Did GGG mention anything about affinities for incursion/fate of the vaal currency or if they are going to the currency tab or if the runes we are getting are going to the socketable tab or if we just need to use a standard tab again then wait for an affinity or the fuck load of other new currencies do any of them have an affinity or tab we currently have that they are going to?i bet its no
>>566299476>D4 won so hardD4 is shit though.
Slay the Spire 2 removed their most interesting boss due to chinese casuals complaining about increased difficulty... this is the future for Path of Exile...
>>566299540Better than poo 2
Y'all aint missing the pod' right?
>>566299609lolno
Our queen has spoken. Doomers on suicide watch
>>566299192Same, feels ass to play but getting of those oil spits on rares is fun
>big atlas rework>towers still there>infinite atlas still there>still forced to run shit layouts
>>566299505Oh you're right, he said Dreamer not Delirium. I guess this really means that 0.5 is the monk update.
>>566299518Old tabs are getting new sub-tabs
I'm so fucking tired of the doomshitting.
back to /d4g/ doomtroons
>>566299876whatcha gon do 'bout dat, white boy? 'xactly, you ain't gon do nuthing
>>566299718Our girl HATES doomtroons!
>>566298386Currently planning either Huntress new Ascend (lack of defenses is very concerning) or tried and true Plant Oracle.
>>566299729towers were fixed ages ago, infinite atlas is fine it has specific league mechanic regions, you can reroll maps now with atlas class>>566298386Disciple of Verashta, been wanting to try it for a while i like the idea of a minion caster build then late game mix it with RF >>566299862i know fragment tab is coming im talking about the rest of the currencies there is going to be a fuck load of just runes next patch do you know how much of a clusterfuck its going to be without a tab for it there is over 100 of them
what's wrong with the infinite atlas again?
>martial artist>doesn't fight but has a ghost fight for him????????????
>>566300183>what's wrong with infinite mazecuckolding again?
>spends a year and a half seething about poo1>cries when poowunners do the same to poo2
>>566300183a streamer didn't like it so retards here parrot the talking point
>>566300183i just want to run cemetary 50 times oneshotting everything! t. Ben
>>566300220This actually makes sense
>>566299876>>566299951dooming is the result of a successful game. People have been dooming Path of Exile for literally 7+ years. A dead game won't have doom, it just won't have posters at all, such as Diablo 4
Still no swords? Martial Artist and Zoomommy are going to play like everything else so far. >>566299540I'm unironically having more fun with Barb this season than any melee in poop1+2. Not even playing WW slop. Too bad the itemization and endgame is still shit but the actual gameplay is good.
im reserving my doom/hope for the balance changes. if it's another colored arrow league im skipping, if they do the reasonable thing and buff up the weak ascendencies to be usable i'm all in. archery is insanely gay.
>>566300320I'm sorry anon but I don't know what any of that means
Reminder!!!
>25% chance on a tuesday if it's raining
>>566298386Whatever they're calling this raven RF thing. I only want to play RF and this will have to do.
>>566300478????????????????????? are you retarded????????????????
>>566300220it's the ghost of bruce lee
>>566300183I want to be able to see all my options on 1 (maybe 2) screens. Having to scroll literal dozens of screens potentially sounds awful. Prior to this, it mostly worked because you could just go in 1 direction forever, kinda like Delve.But now, you're prompted to go in every direction at the same time and can only go in 1 direction after having finished 4 sizable quest chains.That's shit. Just go to a normal-ass Atlas and cycle influence mechanics.
>>566299718who said we went away
>>566299876If the devs and games were good there wouldn't be such colossally consistent and evidence-supported "dooming", anon. GGG and Poop Exile died when they sold out to Tencent.
>>566300559>25% chance
slop is ready piggies
how many jobs will poeg get to lvl 80 in ffxiv before poe2 launch?
>>566300652They...they look like me...I... thank you
>>566300645yeah man, a 25% chance that something happens. That's it. There isn't a bunch of other qualifiers.
>>566298386Djinn if they don't nerf it into the ground.
>>566298386Shields on either witch hunter, smith or abyssal lich as a starter
>>566297839>We aim to bring PoE2 to broad audience by removing the bloat and only leaving the best of the best, polished and refined.>Year and 5 patches later>We actually will just bombard you with shitloads systems for every aspect of the game making it even more bloated than PoE1What went wrong?
>>566300891it got a build highlight brother, it's getting obliterated
>>566300645you pick one or the other, retard
>>566298386gemling because I only play hard classes the bad players can't make work
>bloat>clutternon-issues
>>566301005poe1fags crying it's not complex enough
>>566301032>>56630088625% chance
>>566300652>yfw no swords and new act but 5 new systems that dont adress core endgame issues
>>566301005the campaign is to lure in new players.
Rue says Spirit Walker will be pre-nerfed, it looks way too overpowered right now
We are all one raceThe ARPG Mazecuck race
>>566295912Shapeshifting druid is kind of paper so either you instakill them or you just accept that you're going to get pounded without a lot of investment into something. Unfortunately, all the shapeshifting nodes are located away from any good defense nodes so Druid is kind of fucked unless you go oracle, since Oracle brings braindead defense scaling
>>566298386Was considering spears, then remembered all the forced frenzy charge shit and knew betterMight just do str stacker fissure smith with new Brutus'
>>566300478
>>566301406>braindead defense scalingLike what
>>566301406>Shapeshifting druid is kind of paperI will never not be mad.Archetypes known for being tanky not feeling tanky is a fucking crime.>Oracle brings braindead defense scalingWut?
>>566301295but 500 new runes...
>PoE1 gets an overhaul where running the same map over and over is easier>PoE2 doubles down on its randomnessWhat was meant by this?
>another cool unique PoE 2 item that poo1 will shamelessly copy to their game later down the linePoo 1 is nothing but a cum socket at this point
>>566300540>A drop from TangmazuCucked>>566298386I will play either Cull Witch Hunter or some cuck build that's easy and lets me afk
>>566301721>and lets me afkThere are no afk builds in PoE2.
>>566301005no one said any of that
>>566301713This is literally just the Vorax mechanic from TLI 6 months ago... What did Jonathan mean by this?
>>566301713>extract one unique modifierYou can either make a godtier frankstein or you can make literal dogshit
>>566301713>Mirror tier chanceLmao and kek, you will never find or afford on of those
>>566301713Can turn any spear into tangletongue
marauder when?no marauder = no play
>>566301669they know most people aren't autistic enough to want pure repetition just because it meets some kind of "efficiency" threshold in their heads.
whenever people in this general complain about bloat or "the 99% will never get this!" it really reveals that this general is almost entirely casuals
>>566298386my upteenth titan warrioridk i just like big hammers
Hey guys I heard POE2 is getting another update! Is this the last one before release? What new classes are coming out? Did they finally add swords?
This update looks good, but GGG have really screwed up when it comes to working with their audience. I wouldn’t be surprised if Kelly gets fired and calling this the biggest update ever was a mistake.Instead of all this, they should have presented it all as the final patch before 1.0. Here are all the mechanics we wanted to see in the endgame, the skills we wanted to test, and so on - thanks for the beta test. Ideally the whole stream should have ended with a new trailer for 1.0
>>566301669have you seen the mirage player retention? a league that all the streamers said was supposedly good?
>>566301713
>>566298386there are like 2 skills you are allowed to use in poop 2 for the first week
>>566302349its 1 d4 tranny that is in these threads 24/7 pay no attention to it
Actual question. I havent touched poo2 since 0.1. Wasnt the above ground delve endgame( or what they retardedly call "de atlas") set in the past after act 3 ( after atziri fucks with the beast)?Why did Jonatron say that the new ancient city or whatever they came up with coming up from the ground is a responce to the corruption unleashed by the cataclysm, which is in the past? Does that mean this is a placeholder also?
>>566301631>>566301640>Oracle has braindead defense scalingMoM at a -15% max health and mana and it shifts between which value is higher, can be combo'd with energy shield bypass for essentially free DR, unlucky enemy crits is superb, paths not taken has some (surprisingly) good defensive nodes. Of course, ES/Arm is still not very good but you'll at least be able to get cool cast on crit synergy and other stuff, and there are a few good nodes. Generally this is probably better going primarily ES and having some armor on a shield or a chest if convenient to contribute to PDR.Unfortunately, even with that Druid doesn't really have a dedicated shapeshifting ascendancy or any archetype support for hybrid playstyles or werewolf's weird companions. There's some decent elemental nodes I guess, but needing to get hit to get elemental DR on the Shaman is a bit lame. Druid just got the short end of the stick, Shapeshifting is good by pure coincidence of some skills being overlooked during balancing not because it's a good archetype.
>>566302707Lurk more before making posts tourist
>Actual question (immediately outs self as a shitposter)Sure, kid.
>>566302635what are they
>>566302794>stack mana on my attack based character.Anon?...
>>566302927shield wall and LA
>>566302840actual schizo spotted
>>566302190If I want to run a unique map in PoE, I can do that. If I want to run the same map in 2, I have to get lucky after an eternity of playing through the same dogshit maps. It's more of a problem that 70% of tilesets just suck to play through
this in an epic meme!https://www.reddit.com/r/PathOfExile2/comments/1t6eqg9/you_know_its_about_to_happen/
>>566302816I just dont play beta ass games made by retards.
They should make towers much rarer and also give you a fuck ton more vision when you complete them. Make it so people actually want to beeline to a tower to reveal more of a map filled with stuff they want to do.
>>566302635?
>>566303075There's 5 swords in the top right frame
>>566303090>40/40 LoKyea I'm thinking BASED
>>566298313Sauce onegaishimasu
>>566303090>dont play beta ass games made by retards>40/40 in worst leagues poo1 ever hadnice one
Hot take: I actually like running more than one map. They just need to fix some of the egregiously bad ones like that village in the swamp one. Most of the PoE 2 maps are fine, they are mostly wide open areas that you can just do a loop in.
>>566303042perhaps you should go do that in poe1 right now :D
>>566303090>post-harvest touristNobody cares
>>566302949You don't even need to stack mana, just keep a bit of it on you and you'll be able to use it as a free 1000 health off of intelligence and leveling. You're free to not take that node entirely and just take the other weird nodes, but I was giving you options for Druid. You get plenty of mana from the int for gear and gem reqs
>>566303097I agree. Make the area you reveal have a bunch of cool stuff in it too like how logbooks are going to work
I didn’t see the full reveal, but did they mention anything about swords? No “hey sorry but we’re delaying them they’ll be out in the update after this next one” or anything
hey... do you accept cute newfags here :( i want to start playing poe2 again. is it worth starting before the new league?
>>566303258reincarnated as a sword
>>566297978I'd pay a guy like 10k to crash a car into the venue, 12k if he can run over the fucker
I literally just want them to rape and kill lighting arrow so they don't have to balance the game around it existing
>>566303090>I just dont play beta ass games made by retards.>40/40 LOK
>>566303075
Did they say anything about how tablets and stuff were going to work? Do we just naturally find breach zones or abyss zones on the atlas? We can't just create it ourselves? It's going to be weird if someone wants to go all in on abyss and can only find an abyss zone every so often.
Dragon bros are we going oracle?
>>566303042See>>566299718
>>566303292Crimsoncasts, a speedrun guy, has been saying that that specific campaign area is being fixed somehow. those should carry over to the endgame map so either they will change the layout or there will be visual indicators pointing towards the boss.
>>566303550They hated him for he spoke the truth
path of exile 2 fucking sucks
>>566303504You're COOKED
as someone that has a job how much of this "content" is actually relevant to meIve never fought a "pinnacle" as some may say, boss before and never will
>>566303520I don't think they are doing that outside of your mind, dude.
I actually have a genius idea now that they implemented atlas search (and seems like they are widening the vision of the atlas?) which is that if you click on a node that you don't have immediate access to, it creates like a Google Maps path toward that node from where you are and you can just slot in a waystone right where you are and it will advance toward the selected node one map at a time. You don't have to squint your eyes on the atlas to see if a map connects, you just map and go.
This is objectively bad design.
>>566303550my coworkers are the most faggot dudebro call of duty normies with 90 IQ and they were talking about the new poop 2 "season" and they literally knew nothing about poe 1.
>>566303730thermotrvclear bomb
>warrior is white nordic vikang in artwork>but black gibsmedat in game>also a karui?this lil nigga's got an identy crisis lmaoanyway where's my man MARAUDER
>>566302396retard
>>566303775You have a job and barely play the game yet you have time to post in the games general on 4chan. Are you not just a loser ass bitch at this point?
>>566303591>Did they say anything about how tablets and stuff were going to work? same way as before>Do we just naturally find breach zones or abyss zones on the atlas?yes>We can't just create it ourselves?if you finish one another generates somewhere else and is revealed in the fog or is added adjacent to the one you're on (seems to vary by mechanic and what you've already explored).
poop of excrement 2?VERY nastyBIG stink!NOT RECOMMENDED!!!
Anyone else but me play 0.1 and then decide to wait for 1.0 release
>>566303594>wyvernHAHAHAHAHA
>not praising poe2?>must mean you want it to be poe1???
>>566303746Actually on second thought, his life ain't worth 2k. I'd still be willing to throw in an additional 100 bucks for his mangled body
>>566303873This is literally just Elusive but actually kinda sorta good
>>566303873as someone who actually likes a lot of PoE 2 skills and stuff, the syntax and effect structuring for PoE 2 is egregiously bad. Look at how many fucking keywords that effect has. Surpassing chance PER power ON status UP TO a maximum like jesusI don't like that PoE 1 just makes you gods very easily but the benefit of that is that you have an elegance in effects that don't require too many restrictions
>>566304069I heard they're buffing Deflection in PoE2, this is probably what they meant.
IMPORTANTI can play (comfortably clear t15+ maps) in Path of Exile 2 with a build that uses a bunch of the different spear skills like wind serpent, spear of solaris, thunderous leap yes? This game is balances yes?
>No auras/flasks for fixing huge holes in your buildWont be playing poo2
>>566304412Literally every skill can be taken to T15 with ease
>>566303937>2 minutes to post>40 hours to grind currency that could be used to learn a hobby
>>566304290That one in particular is worded extremely weird when it could have been much more clearer with "Gain 2 Mountain's Teachings per enemy Power on Immobilising an enemy, up to a max of 30"
3 retarded morons or 1 schizophrenic retard baboon on 3 accounts?
>>566304681all me
>>566303591They talked about tablets here:https://youtu.be/P2-BLJQCeWo&t=7046They still basically work the same way
>>5663046813 reasonable people it seems
>>566304487Good. Both of those ruined poe1.
ITS THE SAME ENDGAME YOU JUST HAVE TO INTERACT WITH NEW NPCS A FEW EXTRA TIMESIT WAS NOT REWORKED
>>566304597Thats good and all but why arent you learning your hobby instead of posting here, bitch?
Serious question. For a new player who hasn't played either game before, do you recommend starting with PoE 1 or 2?
>>5663049961 because its the better game atm
>>566304940What exactly do you think "reworked" means?
>>5663049962 because 1 is a game for autists
>>566304996if you're very autistic, poe1if you're a normalfag, poe2
>>566304940fucker you know definition of rework or you're one of those kids that can't tell what a remaster or remake is on steam games
>>566304996do you want to interact with 1000 different runes for your gearing upgrades? poe2if not then poe1
wtf is surpassing chance
>>566304996PoE 2 clears, it isnt even close
>>566304996I think most people won't like either, and people that like one will probably like both (while having some critique for one of them). They're nerd games.I personally think POE1 is the better game and therefore worth playing first and maybe even primarily.>>566305254Means it can go over 100%.
>>5663049961, and in particular I would implore you to try and make a Righteous Fire build. It might be boring as fuck, but that skill in particular teaches you a lot about the game, specially reaching the point of sustaining it for the very first time is kinda magical
>>566304412in poe2 bad build + good items = good build, as it should be
>>566305254100% happens once, 200% happens twice, 150% happens happens once with 50% to happen twice etc
>>566305163Pretty sure the new runes is just because of that new Olroth thingy.
>>566304996They're both good games anon. Try PoE1 for a few weeks and then play PoE2 when 0.5 launches
>>566305254extra arrow for every 100%, except when you got 150% you do 1 guaranteed and 50% for +1
>>566303909I could have sworn the original warrior was a blonde ezomyte or kalguurian back when they had the act 3 trailer before release
>>566299876Problem is that GGG does all of these cool things, aknowledges the pain points the community has with certain aspects of the game, then 1 day before the league starts everything is nerfed and gutted into the ground. league mechanic ends up worthless or has a glaring issue, and instead of patching it we get hit with the radio silence that translates to ''we'll fix it next league ;)'' and voila, the next league reveal trailer showcases all the cool changes and additions that people been asking for.Only for it to get monkey pawed on release and the cycle repeats infinitely. this has been going on for years.GGG clearly just has a bunch of severely autistic game designers that are obsessed with ''feeling the weight'' and attaching incredibly annoying downsides and pain points to everything which is why there's constant dooming.
>Charges give no bonusesI fucking hate this
pohx.net
>>566305254Can go over 100%. Think of it like this, if you have 150% Surpassing chance to shoot 1 extra arrow, you'll always shoot one extra, but also have 50% chance to shoot an additional extra, for 2 total.
>>566304940omg and its a lot of killing monsters for items! again!!where is the creativity????
>>566305340Telling new players to play RF is ultrabait cuz it's not a generalist build, and it sucks ass when you don't know what you're doing and you're taking a year to kill a t5 map boss.
I don't like the nu-Atlas visually. The map I mean. It looks like a mobile game. They should make it a flat 2D artwork instead. It's too busy.
>>566305486the bonus is that your spears explode now.
>>566305340poe1 sissys will look at you with a straight face and tell you to play the walking simulator build in the ACTION rpg lmao
>>566305546For a new player, he shouldn't be thinking of maps yet, getting through the campaign is more than enough. If at that point he decides that RF is not what he wants to do, he SHOULD make another character, but I stand by my opinion that RF is a good teacher for new players
>>566304006Based.
stay seething 4ch and shittard diabloids
>>566305536copying d4
>>566305486>>566305686Don't you anons love generator (slow) spenders (also slow) meanwhile in the lategame you're skill tree or gems give something like>generate 5 power charges>every time a charge depletes have a 50% chance to get 2 moreSo that generator gameplay is ultimately worthless and the spender is on 24/7?
Playing? Me? I think not. Shan't be touching such and such until they release my goat the duelist and swords to hack and slash with. Shrimple as.
>>566304996POE1 at this point is only for the severely autistic, the game has layers and layers of retarded stats and build mechanics that don't explain anything or how they work so you'll be doing nothing but copying builds that are made in a way that only the people that have been playing the game for years will understand all while not knowing what the fuck each stat does or how to scale your build.Just play poe2, if you are the severely autistic type that's ready to spend 400 hours to grasp a basic entry level of understanding of poe (probably around 600 hours desu) then give poe1 a try.
>>566298386Probably some stat stacker, I love how they scale to infinity.Unless they are no longer viable, havent played 2 in a long while.
>>566305892you mean basic build progression?
>>566302707what the beast will do after act5/6 will be similar to the cataclysm from Vaal times.. that's the gist of it basically, so ancient powers that got activated after the Vaal-era cataclysm will likely be activated again and that will be the endgame
>>566306001>SpoilerAnon I.........
>>566305850retard can you even call them diabloids if the current hype and chilli d4 has no diablo in it?
>>566298386brutus lead sprinkler martial artist.
>>566306103n-no... dont tell me...
>>566306213>5-10 fire damage per 25 strength?what's the plan
>>566305745I don't understand this "new players should be treated as retarded cattle with 0 agency, that needs to be goaded into something I would never wish for myself myself (pointlessly starting a bad character archetype and being expected to reroll)" mindset. It's very prevalent on various /vg/ generals and it feels like a hazing ritual. Did someone do it to you and now you feel like you have to continue the chain?
>>566304996poe1 is arguably the most dense and un-intuitively autistic game on the market right nowpoe2 is less so but they will absolutely turn it into the above over time, so honestly just go poe2 with the expectation that it WILL become as bad (and worse) than PoE1
>>5663063515 million STR
>>566306069It's blatantly inferior to 1's system of charges just being something you can get from just about anywhere and sometimes you can spend them or you can keep them as buffs, it's good to have options and it isn't good to downgrade those options into gameplay that gets phased out as you approach lategame.One of this game's biggest flaws is that as much as combo's are "encouraged," they either become obsolete lategame or they hamstring your build with unnecessary clunkiness.
>>566305850Is this legendary drops? This grifting piece of shit triggers me
>>566306069altering core functionality of skills is not basic build progressionbasic progression is like "this does more damage" or "you have more health"completely altering or even discarding game mechanics at certain points of an RPG is nothing other than a complete failure in design and that's how all of poe2 is built
>>566300478Reminder that 25% chance in PoE means you will have streaks of 15 tries when it doesn't happen constantly.
>>566306430They are adding yellow paint so stoned and drunk autistic kids and brain broken can finally reach maps, so maybe that's good?
>>566306520Holy retard take
>>566303456please answer waaaah
>>566305850Throwing 800 million is not having balls?
>>566306574Meanwhile breach tablets have 3% to spawn 10 breaches and I get that multiple times a day.
>>566303456>>566306680No just wait for the league.
>>566306680It's worth playing now if you want to familiarize yourself with the game. Everything resets when the new league comes out on the 29th
>>566305892yes I prefer that to just right-clicking monsters that explode in one hit.
>>566306457charge stacking has been an endgame meta in poe1 for years, and it has the same progression. >manual charge generation into fully automated charge generation or 100% uptime.half of the builds in poe1 rely on some form of comboing that gets automated in the endgame.
>>566306351Use the channel and let my guys hit the screen while filling the screen with the fire projectiles. Maybe boneshatter because the spirit bell is primed for stun. The new defense from martial artist gets better the more hp and DR you have so it should be way better on an armour hp character than on the typical hybrid es/eva monk.
>>566303456Just wait for the league, also dont come to /poeg/ if you are new for your own mental health.
you're brown...
>>566303456Go the fuck back to Diablo 4 with the rest of the dad gamers and jeets.
>>566306820>>566306894>>566307002i guess i will wait for the new league... the spirit walker looked really fun in the big trailer ^^
>>566306351>>566306213>>566306992Dont get baited by maces no matter how good the uniques look
>>566306680unless you have FOMO about the idea of losing all your "progress" to the league reset.
>>566298386probasbly spirit walker since i never played huntress
>>566307205spirit walker is an ascendency that you might not get to for 3-5 hours depending on how familiar with arpgs you are and whether you follow a guide (which you shouldn't first time).the best reason to wait is probably just not wanting to burn out on the campaign before launch.
>>566305486Charges are literally just Blue, Green and Red combo points.
>>566305850>Asking the guy with a failing game why games are failingInteresting strategy.
>>566307571>mfw loads of people try huntress and the 0.2 screeching repeats itselfshe has the most counterintuitive and combo-heavy skill set in the game, just a warning. obviously if you're in trade league you can just spam LS but trying to actually play the class as designed is much weirder.
>>566307543you lose everything? like, all your characters too? :O>>566307729ahh!! i need to do more research on the classes, maybe a class that has to do with curses or something ^^
>>566307934>#1 game on steam that raked in millions in early access>failing
>>566306097Thank you, actual answer. Also, noticed i was using a older pic, 40/40 mirage as well. All SSF btw
Rue says theres about a 0% chance Voices goes live as theres literally no downside to it. Tri said a similar thing.
>>566307934Well yeah, that's just the best way to go about it right?>So what have you been doing to get to this point?
woahmillions bromillions
>>566307285The game for better or worse is easy enough that you can play whatever you want.
>>566305850>>566306507PR department failing not knowing this is a pos grifter that shits on studios on regular (including cdpr), he is pretending to be a normie and its really cringe.
>>566303873>>566304656It's to accommodate for a niche case where monsters have lower than 1 power, stuff like the flies that the brood queen mob spawns. I don't see why that even needs to be accounted for rather than the simplicity of "X per enemy power"
>>566307961Man I remember trying her out in 0.2>Parry - whirl - rake - spend combo was clunky>Parry was unreliable>Almost no damage compared to just attacking on a good spearReally made me question what they were thinking, in comparison to actually good skills like Lightning Arrow or ED/C it felt pretty bad. Rake pops were good but they nerfed rake animation cancels and stomps, so it was unplayable after
>>566308006everything before 0.5 goes to a permanent league and people start from scratch with a new character and no gear. >>566308006looking up guides as a first-time player is bad but witch is your girl.
>>566307961>she has the most counterintuitiveit's perfectly intuitive though. spears are combo-heavy and I don't like them, but I don't get calling them unintuitive. every combo is really straightforward and obvious and it's obvious how to expand it.there are no complicated mechanics like breakpoints or thresholds to hit. you just meet condition>get payback, and eventually automate the condition with supports and keystones and cast-ons.
>>566308006Characters are migrated to standard league when a new league launches. So you still have them, but nobody really plays standard
I still haven't bothering finishing the story since first playing PoE2 early January this year
>>566308138No amount of nerves will make me try maces again. Absolutely unplayable garbage
>>566308162So that's why he looks familiar. Why couldn't Tri have done this?
>>566308006You don't lose everything and your character it just gets moved to a permanent league which you can still play on. Granted, it won't be the nu league with all the interesting new content
>>566308248>>566308257thank you!!! i will not look for any walkthroughs and play blind when the league starts. probably as witch
>>566308021@grok calculate the cost of salary of about 150 people over 8 years and then tell me about taxes in NZ.
>>566308459No problemo, fellow marke... I mean fellow PoE buddy!!! Have a great league start!!
>>566308483go back to your jeet site where you can talk to a robot
>8 years>missing classes>missing acts>missing weapons>missing ascendancies for the classes that are already out>placeholder end game system>people cry about the end game>'rework' the endgame>don't actually change what people disliked about it>no crafting bench because it will 'confuse' new players>can't do any sort of meaningful crafting game launch>add a million mechanics to basically print insane gear in game>rework adds niggertrillion currencies because you refuse to add a crafting bench>all skills tied to weapons>zero cool interactions or individual thought into builds>only play developer intended builds>game still plays like poe1 except you have slower base movement speed>rolling poop is the first melee skill you get in the game that was supposed to fix melee>dodge roll in a game where your character has stats to avoid being hit>active block in a game where your character has stats to block hits>no movement skills>add sprint to cover for shit base movement speed instead of just buffing base movement speed>1.0 doesn't need to have all the classes in it>8 years
>>566308514Northernlionbros...
>>566308651Whatever you need to cope with the fact that they literally lost money developing PoE 2, it's that fucking bad.
So what are some PoE2 AFK builds?
>>566308053np king. also maybe you should play 0.5 since they are finally adding challenges to the game
>>566308734also missing TotA
>GGG has 260 employees nowNo longer the underdog huh... they are the gatekeeper to the ARPG market now, soon regulatory bodies all over the world will pick them apart
>>566308196>niche caseactually unlike poe 1, poe 2 takes the chance to make everything unbearably complicated for no reason. In PoE 1, monster power is solely based on rarity. Normal mobs have 1, magic has 5, rare 10, etc. In PoE 2, monster power is used for more calculations like spirit reservation and stuff so each mob has its own unique monster power that is then multiplied by its rarity. Even then, I don't get why they don't just do truncation. If you stun a monster with 7.64 monster power, who cares if it only gives 15 stacks vs 15 stacks with a 28% chance for 16 stacks
>>566308483it's too bad they didn't have some other source of income during the 25 years poe2 was in development, like another game, or even a parent company worth half a trillion dollars as a safety net.
>>566308631thanks anon-kun
>>566308752Its a live service game retard. They’ve most money on upfront costs but make profit on supporter packs now
>>566308751northernbaldcuck does the exact same thing, mocks people in their 30s that play videogames and brags he makes money doing so
>>566308210it works really well if you understand exactly what to do but ggg were really no help.I literally had to do math to figure out whether it was worth using Whirling Slash (it is). >Parryit "should" be that you can parry at the last moment but you have to parry quite early in a monster's attack animation. they must have been worried about it making players unkillable vs specific bosses. my key brainwave is that I had to parry and attack at least once before consuming the debuff so I got burst damage and get the frenzy charge back. >>566308256>you just meet condition>get paybackin SSF you can't make a build which relies too much on one thing because lots of bosses don't e.g. have parryable attacks, or don't for whole phases of their fight. how good twister is (a level 1 skill) depends on whether a fight is happening in an enclosed space. it's definitely a step beyond LALR.
>>566308887>>566308930MTX income from PoE 2 is likely very low which is why they're trying to push it so bad, it's nowhere near PoE 1.
>>566309012Source for this, faggot?Plus to even play the game you need to pay minimum $30
>>566309271everyone thought the same thing when we watched the clip
>>566308752I don't need to cope, it's not true and I don't give a shit, I never asked for POE2 to begin with. It's objectively a successful videogame regardless of what you and I think about it.
>>566308483Their financial statements are public, and surprise, their profits have massively grown since releasing PoE2 even with a larger headcount.
>>566308483>Based on current 2026 data, the total salary cost for 150 employees over 8 years is estimated at $97,780,800, assuming a median annual salary of $81,484 per person.Your point?
>>566308965My problem is just that the three button combo between whirling, autoattacking, parry, and the dash back to get the frenzy charge + pop whirling slash is just not fun or particularly engaging. Back during the spear introduction when they talked about bonuses for going in and out of combat and that sort of gameplay I'm like "damn that's kind of cool" but honestly what you get now is just you hunker down and pop an entire mob with no effort or you play like a fighting game character hit by a slow debuff against bosses
>>566308965>in SSF you can't make a build which relies too much on one thing because lots of bosses don't e.g. have parryable attacksThat's not true, every boss has parryable attacks, it's just that not all attacks are parryable. You can watch mas0ny's vid for a showcase of SSF parry-centered autism.On top of that, you don't need to parry to generate frenzy charges, you have multiple other ways to get them when you unlock all skill gem tiers and can path a bit on the tree.But don't pull me into an unrelated discussion. I'm just pushing back on the notion that it's unintuitive. It's intuitive as fuck.
what do people even dislike that much about the atlas? with 0.5, it would feel no different than astrolabes
>>566308162CDPR doesn't get shit on even remotely as much as it should.
just watched the chris videojonathan is so based
>>566309671>My problem is just that the three button combo between whirling, autoattacking, parry, and the dash back to get the frenzy chargeYou choose to use this combo. Alternatives exist in many forms and this has been optimized to hell and back in multiple variants by now, spear builds are ultrafast and comfortable when developed.You should just watch a prada or snoobae or whoever's spear vid. You're operating under the idea that you need to stay limited to A1 mechanics.
>>566309497>Net profit for:>2021: $50.1m>2022: $48.9m>2023: $28.4m>2024: $105m>2025: $38.6mThey sold their future for a one time rug pull, 2026 will be sub 25m, it's clear PoE 1 was the cash cow, mogging 2025 in 21 and 22, with it neglected and PoE 2 a failure the company is doomed.
>>566309837Not sure what this discussion is even about, but so much of thisCDPR are such massive faggots, especially after the release of The Witcher 3 when they got cocky and started telling everyone to fuck off.
>>566309837Why should they be? They have 100% success on their games and their games are based ? But yeah whatever, you would use Cyberpunk release as an example of a fuckup, but that's not the reason why someone like Legendary drops shits on them - its because they had a special program to attract women to their studio and stuff like ESG and whatnot, nothing to do with any games theyve released.
I had premonition.>late 2027 after PoE2 player count keeps falling, Tencent begins to dictate monetization direction of GGG to extract their investment.>mid 2028 Mark and veteran game designers exit company.>some of them form a new company and announce a kickstarter project.>late 2029 after another 9month league, development of new content for PoE1 and PoE2 is transferred to the Tencent studio that maintained chinese client.>because NZ foreign investor laws prohibit full axing of GGG by Tencent, they become a skeleton crew responsible for supplying chinese team with art assets and maintaining global client.>early 2030 kickstarter studio created by old devs silently closes after failing to release a playable game build and running out of money.
>>566309271Haha, great games think alike, well poe 2 is a little bit better though.
What I was thinking about the new atlas in 0.5 is that you get all your points for it from the fortress thing yeah, so even with all this choice of stuff to do, you would want to do that first every time right, or am i retarded
Tencent considers Path of Exile 2 one of their 'evergreen' games and it only does so if it brings in 4 billion yuan or 552 million USD per year.
>>566310031So its up £10m from 2023 and its not even released yet and they’ve already done most of the hard work in development
>>5663100312025 statement is not out, nice try tho
>>566310309That's my assumption too unless that content gets really hard towards the end
>>566310168you had a schizo episode
>>566310031You need to be in a conservatorship if you think think those are bad results.
>>566310137Let me guess, you think Cyberpunk is "fixed" and "redeemed"?
What a bunch of pompous fartery
>>566310739The engoodening of CP
>>566310684>Went from consistent $50m revenue to $38m and likely declining despite a MASSIVE investmentlol1.0 won't even be another huge spike btw.
>>566309708>every boss has parryable attacks, it's just that not all attacks are parryablethat's basically what I mean. it's not useful that some of Kopec's abilities are parryable if 90% of the time he's doing something else. if parrying Viper's attacks means standing on her chaos dot poison ground that's not really very helpful. another good example is that tornados (whirling slash being the example) require a ground effect to do competitive damage. of course it has to be like that but the easiest way to get ground effects is spear attacks that use frenzy charges so pretty soon you're using Parry to use Explosive Spear to use Disengage to use Twister. then the boss ministuns you during your explosive spear animation so the parry debuff ends and your disengage doesn't give your charge back and you are sad. >>566309671I'm leaguestarting huntress and already was before the announcement because I voluntarily want to do this stuff, its just a lot.
>>566309837based
>>566297839Now that it's confirmed that poo2 is indeed big shit, what is next for the arpg genre?
>>566310890Retard 1.0 is literally when every nerd will get baited to play it again and cash in a few bucks, who gives a shit after, keep seething.
>>566310890>lollol what? paid EA access is a one time thing.>1.0 won't even be another huge spike btw.it doesn't need to be for POE2 to be considered successful by business standards. you need to detach your dislike from the game from your view of the objective reality of its financial results.
>>566311140>Retard 1.0 is literally when every nerd will get baited to play it againGIGANTIC fucking cope.Screencap this faggot, 1.0 won't even beat 0.1 in player numbers.
>>566309708>when you unlock all skill gem tiers and can path a bit on the tree.yeah I want to finish the campaign in a decent amount of time and without killing myself though. the discussion started re. why huntress kind of flopped at leaguestart. reminder that Cull The weak didn't exist on launch in 0.2 and its just that monk skill with a reskin. GGG themselves don't seem to have realized how few options she had early game.
>>566310227I enjoyed people's reactions who had completely forgotten The Forbidden Hole suddenly remembered it after over a decade, and the cycle continues anew where they are now on the lookout for it in everything
>>566310890yes anon, poe2 was a huge failure. one of the biggest financial failures in modern gaming. also>Went from consistent $50m the one time they hit 50m was during the covid lockdown, and every entertainment company had the same bumper year.
>>566311323>the one time they hit 50m was during the covid lockdown2018,19,20,21,22 all had around 50m btw.
>>566311227>fucking copecope yeah sure, you're either blind or been under a rock the past 2 years if you haven't seen people literally postponing early access in favour of full release
1.0 will be swarmed by f2p scrubs for a short while at least
>>566310907>it's not useful that some of Kopec's abilities are parryable if 90% of the time he's doing something elsehe isn't though.>if parrying Viper's attacks means standing on her chaos dot poison groundViper does long strings of parryable attacks all the time, and chaos ground exists only in the phase while she's invulnerable. You're just inventing problems right now.>twister problemsthere is a reason people optimize their builds to be comfortable, and stop using Fangs of Cringe early (or never use it to begin with).>>566311229>yeah I want to finish the campaign in a decent amount of timePerfectly doable with Huntress.>why huntress kind of flopped at leaguestart. because people were morons. release huntress had the most overpowered skills (rake+stomping, bugged twister, pre-nerf LS).>reminder that Cull The weak didn't exist on launch in 0.2 and its just that monk skill with a reskin.you could've been in maps by the time that was patched in if you just put rage on Whirling Slash and used Twister every time you hit 3 stages, without even using frenzies.
>>566310227>DeletedRumao. What a shit boss.
>>566311323i know this is sarcastic but these words shouldn't even been said when there's concord and highguard with $200-400 million investment stuido closes in 1 month
>>566309972This unironically. >Chris: the cut down on content guy>Jonathan and Mark: the just add as much content as possibleno wonder Chris was the guy who made ruthless. But this framing is interesting, because it seems that Chris would've been the guy to work on PoE2. and also explains a little that Chris was interested in how the company gets managed- and therefore pushing to cut on content to deliver the product on time-, while Jonathan was more interested in video game design.
>>566311323>tfw ggg is so desperate that they're taking 6 months between moneymaking opportunities on their flagship game
>>566310137>Witcher 3 was a complete mess and the fix was outsourced>Original Cyberpunk was cancelled because we’re hot shit now and can make big games with Keanu Reeves and shit>Gradually, Polish developers are being replaced by English-speaking internationals because we’re now a big international game studio>Which then led to the dreadful release of Cyberpunk because none of these new developers are familiar with their engine>We’re struggling to fix it, but the guys who are familiar with our engine, the ones who helped us fix Witcher 3 and its DLCs, are going to help us>Witcher 3 Next Gen is being completely scrapped right before release because that outsourced developer is Russian and it’s 2022, so we’ll write an angry letter and sever all ties with them (even >though they belong to an American company)>"Game is fixed" in the advertising campaign (it’s still barely playable)>So yes, we’re switching to UE5 because it’s so much better than our engine! (No one in our company knows how to use RedEngine anymore)
>>566311624stop trying to lecture me when I'm comparing a relatively hard class to what people were used to in 0.2 instead of speaking for myself personally. >because people were moronsokay but that's a less interesting conversation.
>>566311738>>Chris: the cut down on content guyActually wrong, but I don't say this to defend him, but to criticize him.Chris is the one who insisted that more acts be added at once to POE1, and made the team rush out acts 6-10.Due to this moment of hubris, POE1 has been saddled with an inferior, rushed half of the campaign for decades.
>>566311745it's called respect you retard to 14 years of support by leeching retards like you and your retarded government wherever you live to skip job and post this shit here on welfare. eat shit.
if this is not in the game this needs to be added as a currency to terraform the atlas, you see how each region is 1 specific league mechanic? once we beat them and go into the infinite atlas is it the same as in is there breach regions and deli regions etc? because if its just the start it defeats the whole purpose of the endgame rework and also will need a currency orb to terraform a area into a league mechanic
what class should I play in 0.5 brosI've played smith/titan/wbringer, invoker, weaver/chrono, wolf shaman, ls amazon, witchhunter and probably a couple others
>>566307934this>>566308021try the thing again, saar only hear 'my mouth full of poopoo', rright
>>566311954You put yourself in a position to need lecturing because you're uninformed.I don't know why you need to treat having a bad time with spears as your personal Holocaust. Spears were fine from the beginning, just learn from your failure.
>>566311624>you could've been in maps by the time that was patched inI didn't play huntress in 0.2, I just tried it out recently and immediately understood why it caused so much screeching on launch. then I figured out a build that doesn't use bugfixed skills now it all makes sense. I was saying that others jumping on the Spiritwalker bandwagon might have a repeat of 0.2 because its still relatively weird, maybe you can help them by posting your huntress build for them in the new build poster thingy.
>>566312106There are Precursor tablets you can add up to three to a single map that have the league mechanics on them
>>566312391isnt the whole rework at the start a special juiced version of the league mechanic?
>no swords>no gladiatorI think I'll play Titan Quest 2 instead.
>>566311986Yes exactly, He literally said that in the interview, he was always the guy that tried to limit and downsize content just so that everything gets shipped. I only started playing poo in 2024, and your post explains why poe's second half seems half-cooked. If Chris was still in the company, next league would've been 1.2 in poo2 but the whole game would've felt completely raw and barely cooked.
>>566312338>understood why it caused so much screeching on launch.If you think this is for any other reason other than "people are retards", you might be one of them.You know what class people also treated as unplayable? Bloodmage. Because they couldn't overcome the great puzzle of not spamming spells with a cost and relying on inbuilt staff skills until 2nd trial.
>>566312198Haha, the game has 2 letters, "po," referencing poo. Haha, poo poo, guys. Do you get it? Poo!!! I said poo, wait, I'm not actually fucking funny??? Come on, allies, laugh!!! Dear fucking God, so you're just a narrow-minded freak like the rest.
>>566312306I don't think you were very good at spears. the impression I get was that you exploited skills you knew were bugged because you can't really play the game. I personally don't play newly launched skills or classes because I have too much integrity. I'm basically a massive chad compared to yourself.
>>566312391it looks to me like theres a specific area with each league present and thats like a questline you complete, and then the rest of the atlas will be the same infinite thing where you put tablets on the maps for the mechanic you want
>>566312796why respond to a desperate samefag? this is a rhetorical question btw
I think we're glossing too much over the fact that we learned that the average player takes way more than 15 minutes per map. You'd think this would make them realize that maps are TOO FUCKING BIG. But no.
stop seething and answer my question fags>>566312150
>>566312724I know what a retard is because I'm replying to one with this post! ;^)
>>566312868>>566312464
>>566312949Lurk more tourist
>>566299714all these finnish niggers are insufferable
straight upnglearnestlytrulytruthfullyI think people will like PoE 2's endgame more than PoE 1 with these changes. All the game needed was some direction and pinnacle content.
>sword makes it in>one ability is Whirlwind, clears the entire screen, "melee">one ability is Rend, big single target dmg with guaranteed bleed, works vs bosses>one mandatory mobility skill that everyone uses>everything else is unusable garbage
no swords
>>566308815>Not a single peepI expected as much.
>>566313108noanswer my question bitch
>>566312949sounds like you haven't played witch.definitely don't play her now she is 2 hot 2 handle
>>566301713diablo 3 already did this 40 years agothe entire game is balanced around this mechanicand chronicon perfected it
>>566312837You think I leveraged a bug, but you're not correct, because you don't even know what the bug is, you just learned from Ruetoo that le twister was le bugged, and you don't know the interaction happened with an item I couldn't possibly have had in the campaign.Demonstrate your knowledge of this topic by telling me exactly what the Twister bug was and how to reproduce it.I don't want to fling shit at you, I just want a honest discussion about the game, and you're impeding it for no reason.
>>566312150>>566312949I will personally play Monk, Chayula or the new ascendancy i'm not sure, can respecc between the two as well if one turned out weaker than the other.. unless i see balance changes that make me want to play a different class.
>>566313264I played ed/contagion like a year ago, I always wanted to play infernalist but I get filtered hard, i dont understand the point of it
