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Welcome to Sonic the Hedgehog General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!

/sthg/ #9304 - Tangle Sexo 2 Edition

==NEWS==
>Sonic the Hedgehog's 35th anniversary
https://www.sega.com/sonic-the-hedgehog?tab=35th-anniversary
>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 to release on March 19, 2027
https://x.com/SonicMovie

==Comic Release Dates==
DC x Sonic the Hedgehog: Metal Legion #1 - 06 May 2026
DC x Sonic the Hedgehog: Metal Legion #2 - 03 June 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #87 - 17 June 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog: 35th Anniversary Special - 08 July 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog x Godzilla #1 - 15 July 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #88 - 22 July 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #89 - 05 August 2026

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>/sthg/ Pixel World:
https://ourworldofpixels.com/sthg

Previous Zone: >>566244740
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>>566316740
I BOTCHED IT AGAIN LOL, SORRY ANONS
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silvaze is tananana
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Honey the Cat!
Blaze the Cat!
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Douge
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>>566316740
AKA the "we ran of ideas" edition
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Honey is for Tails
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>unpopular opinions about Big
>Big is the best character
>how can you hate Big
>Big should be playable
Faggots
all of them
nobody played SA1
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>>566317316
Big was based in Heroes
>ESAYWUN
Who cares about that Kusoge? All it was good for was the stories.
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Why are we letting Tanglefaggots hijack our threads?
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*headpats your OC*
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>didnt get banned for pony post last thread
WHEW!
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>>566317458
idk but idw is canon so cope
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>>566317458
Why didn't you make a thread then? Dingus.
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New sonic 1 beta screenshot
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>>566317627
Post the link so I can report it properly
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Chroniclesfaaaag
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>>566318026
fujoshi draw this and think it's the height of romance
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>>566317117
Sonaze is forced made to upstage Blaze
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>>566318324
What???
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Shadow the Hedgehog is back!
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I hope that our few remaining friends
Give up on trying to save us
I hope we come up with a failsafe plot
To piss off the dumb few that forgave us
I hope the fences we mended
Fall down beneath their own weight
And I hope we hang on past the last exit
I hope it's already too late

And I hope the junkyard a few blocks from here
Someday burns down
And I hope the rising black smoke carries me far away
And I never come back to this town again

In my life
I hope I lie
And tell everyone you were a good wife
And I hope you die
I hope we both die

I hope I cut myself shaving tomorrow
I hope it bleeds all day long
Our friends say it's darkest before the sun rises
We're pretty sure they're all wrong
I hope it stays dark forever
I hope the worst isn't over
And I hope you blink before I do
And I hope I never get sober

And I hope when you think of me years down the line
You can't find one good thing to say
And I'd hope that if I found the strength to walk out
You'd stay the hell out of my way

I am drowning
There is no sign of land
You are coming down with me
Hand in unlovable hand
And I hope you die
I hope we both die
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>>566318058
Sonic, Shadow, and Blaze. Our TRIO!
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>>Blaze's mirror who is herself Sonic's rival and polar opposite which is why people are eager and willing to shove him into "Sol Amy" role as a consolation prize. Because Sonic/ Blaze *does* work so they just want to demote Silver to make him work.
>I don't agree. Sonic and Blaze have no real dynamic.
They do.
>I suspect this happens in order to push them together while putting Blaze on some kind of pedestal.
No it's because
- Silver failed to be light Sonic in the way that Shadow is dark Sonic
- Blaze succeeded in being negative Sonic
- Blaze succeeded in being Silver's mirror (and in 06 had narrative parallels to Amy and Rouge)
so people just conclude "Silver is Blaze's Amy". This doesn't put her on a pedestal so much as it accepts how these characters actually are, not what Sonic Team says they are.

SSS is fake.
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If you go by 2000s fan works, the core cast in the eyes of most teenage boys was Sonic, Shadow, Knuckles, and Tails
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>Blaze succeed in being
Stopped reading there, if she succeeded at anything she won't be fighting Sticks and Cream for a spot.
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Bun!
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random images and videos of fennec foxes are not sonic related
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>>566319642
2000s Sonic was the best era
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>>566319807
report them then loser
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>>566319692
Even Shadow has lost spots to Cream before.
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>>566319692
Blaze did exactly what she was supposed to do in her debut game, 06 fucked her direction up, then she got benched just like everyone else.
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Scourge says: Enthusiastic consent is hot
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Abuse silver.

also good night
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PLAPPLAPPLAPPLAPPLAPPLAPPLAPPLAPPLAP
>"I love you guys"
>'huh? yeah we love you too blaze"
PLAPPLAPPLAPPLAPPLAPPLAPPLAPPLAPPLAP
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>>566320023
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>>566320130
>I am this
>I am that
>This is me
But then posts a fictional character that doesn't represent her views or values. This is why I hate artists.
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>>566319187
>They do.
What is it then? As far as I can tell, they have very generic friend dialog.
>SSS is fake.
Yes but that doesn't make Blaze's supposed dynamic with Sonic real or meaningful.

>- Blaze succeeded in being negative Sonic
She isn't even really his negative.

>so people just conclude "Silver is Blaze's Amy".
Most people i see just have em together and then shove Marine into the mix making them a trio, which then complicates things with people asking whether Blaze or Silver is the fly type, or if marine is a power type or, etc.
It's not this smooth thing you're making it out to be.
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>>566319971
>Blaze did exactly what she was supposed to do in her debut game
Be a nuisance that gets the shit kicked out of her?
>06 fucked her direction up
willing to say yes if she did something important
>then she got benched just like everyone else
Rush adventure.
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>>566320248
Gold and Surge would not have sex with Silver and Sonic. Gold thinks Silver is too weak and insecure while Surge hates Sonic
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>>566320321
everyone knows sonic is a brave isarael supporter
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>>566320130
Pooners be like:
https://youtube.com/watch?v=yojWoOM3AlM
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>>566320453
It's just a silverfag being weird. Ignore them
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Do Sonurge fans know who Surge is
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>>566317218
>Good thing Silver isn't Sonic's rival so he never failed. He does his own thing.
The fact that you think that is proof that Silver failed.

He's supposed to be "light Sonic" but he just jerks off in the corner with Blaze.
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>>566320479
>"Put me down this instant. This is unbefitting of the ultimate life form."
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shadamy!
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My fictional character (tails) would disagree with me on a shitton of takes.
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/sthg/ is just a really bad playlist of the same five songs on shuffle.
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>>566317808
The cooler buzz bomber
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Why do Blaze and Silver fans always have to jump through hoops to try and try and tear each other and their fave down when they could just break up on good terms and support each other? Or at least give each other space to rebuild their faves visions. This hate isn't healthy. It's going to hurt them both. Imagine if Knuckles fans and Shadow fans still fought like this in the big 26.
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>>566320831
>He's supposed to be "light Sonic" but he just jerks off in the corner with Blaze.
Only when Blaze is around. When she isn't, he is just doing Silver things. Like in Forces.
Silver more just gets saddled with Being Blaze's handler really.
NTA
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IDW and Archie are ooc
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>>566320337
They're friendly rivals.

https://browniehideout.wordpress.com/2021/11/06/sonic-channel-wallpaper-cover-story-sonic-blaze-november-2021/
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>>566318919
I hate countryside songs
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>>566319187
>Silver being with Sonic and Shadow
>Blazefags: nonono It's Blaze!
>Silver having a rivalry with Surge
>Blazefags: nonono it's Blaze!
>Silver having-
>Blazefags: NONONO IT'S BLAZE
Will you faggots stop leeching to Silver already? she's a nothing useless burger that never meant to survive or live long enough to be here today, she's an irrelevant fucking leech and she'll stay an irrelevant shit character with shit story and shitty 20 years cope that will achieve genuine shit and utter nothing but being a shipbait slop, keep snorting your crumbs and be happy that she gets to be in the comics at all, and take your pills.
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>>566321041
>Imagine if Knuckles fans and Shadow fans still fought like this in the big 26.
Some Knuckles fans still do, unfortunately.
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>>566321046
>Silver more just gets saddled with Being Blaze's handler really
In opposite land
NTA
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>>566321234
Here's a better one
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This is my husband.
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>>566321046
>doing Silver things
Was Shadow in Forces was "doing Shadow things"? Not really. "Shadow things" involves being the Ultimate Lifeform and Maria.

"Silver things" involve Blaze.
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>>566321132
>They're friendly rivals.
Isn't hat Sonic and Knuckles thing?
>reads
I didn't even get a "friendly rivalry" vibe from this at all. It's more like Sonic and Blaze being Sonic and Blaze next to eachother.
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>>566302798
>but Marine is not a Tails to Blaze,
Yes the heck she is.

Blaze is the polar opposite of Sonic.
Marine is the polar opposite of Tails.

Think for a second, about what the Sonic & Tails dynamic would be like, if you inverted both of their personalities into the exact polar opposite of themselves.
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>>566321041
You're out of the loop, Silver is an easy target that Blazefags use him as a scapegoat to excuse their shit character, Few Silverfags ragebaiting is not really tearing Blaze apart since most just focus on him.
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>>566320831
We had Sega talking about the different rivals Sonic had and Silver didn't appear at all.
>Posting a game that Sega didn't even consider canon until recently
You must be an Aurafag or something. Well sorry for breaking it to you but Silver is in fact not a rival to Sonic and will never be. They are friends until something else happens
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>>566321234
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-vH2b55TSHI
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>>566321261
Yeah because we have a rabid knucklesfag problem here, oh wait
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>>566321414
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>>566321565
I'm not falling for your lies dude, I can see with my own eyes that Silver fans dogpile on Blaze the moment fans give her a hint of consideration or praise just like Blaze fans do to Silver. And I don't want to hear "but he started it," that's not an excuse, when this has been going on for YEARS and you both take completely unprompted pot shots all the time. Every time I take a break and come back it's still fucking going.
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>>566321365
I mean structurally, not narratively.
Blaze is a character that is boring without other characters to push her out of being a bland in her corner.
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>>566321576
He is. Sonic's rivals are the characters who were a Knight of the Round Table (and Metal Sonic and I guess Surge).

Again the fact you deny this means Silver simply failed to be what he is supposed to he.
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>>566321565
I don't think they're exact polar opposites, they're more like complimentary opposites, they seem opposite but they still contain an element of the other within them, like yin and yang.
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>>566321542
Blaze and Marine are even counterparts in the Fire/Water sense too
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>>566321471
Explain how these things involve Blaze:
>Going back in time
>Hiding the chao from Ifrit
>Being in gens
>Finding a traitor in the freedom fighters
>Fighting dark enerjak
>Stopping the second devourer
>Being in forces
>metal Sonic arc
>Metal virus arc
>Diamond cutters and mimic arc
>Chrono knight event
>Super Silver vs time eater event
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>>566321471
>Was Shadow in Forces was "doing Shadow things"? Not really
yeah he was? He was working with Omega and Rouge taking out Eggman bases.
>"Silver things" involve Blaze.
Silver things is coming back in time to stop a problem because the future is fucked, which is why Silver is in Forces.
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>>566320242
it's grim to read all those replies and quotes
>they're not the focus of the scenes and that's why they're less detailed
>you can't even draw yourself
>you are mean
>i can't see what's wrong with it
>you deserve sonic boom
>why are you being so negative
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>>566322151
Silverfags think being in forces and speed battle skins are important aspects of silver
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>>566320831
"Light Sonic" doesn't even work as a concept. Sonic already is a character that is hopeful and never gives up. Silver is unnecessary.

SA2 had the right idea with the two sided Hero-Dark parallels between Sonic and Shadow. Silver is an unwanted, forced third wheel that doesn't complement them thematically or in terms of character dynamics. He's by far the most forced character in this series
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>>566321894
Whatever you say nigga, i haven't seen Blazefags do anything important other than complain and talk about shipping in detail, while i've seen Silverfags be happy and actually enjoy themselves.
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>>566321565
I see no lies so far.
>>566321641
It used to be worse. Especially around when movie 2 came out and movie 3 hype cycle was going.
They have gotten quiet since though.
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>>566322151
All filler. Nobody would deny that Shadow is about his ARK lore despite doing filler shit in between his own stories. But Silverfags have to cope that 06 and Silvaze doen't count because it sucks and they don't understand the lore.
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>>566322289
They have to take what they can get. Their ego depends on it. Please understand...
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>another week arguing about Silver
retards you are
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>>566322289
Blazefags think she's getting anything let alone mobile related stuff
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>>566322408
You guys shoot down literally everything the other tries to say or do, of course you can't see anything except your own pointless pissing contests.
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>>566322393
Correct, Silver failed because they were too focused on Silver's bullshit with Blaze.
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>>566322035
>And metal sonic
Even you know your theory doesn't hold up
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>>566322580
Blaze is perfect as she is. If she gets content that's mediocre that doesn't mean as a fan of the character that its entitled to my praise
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>>566322393
>SA2 had the right idea with the two sided Hero-Dark parallels between Sonic and Shadow. Silver is an unwanted, forced third wheel that doesn't complement them thematically or in terms of character dynamics.
>He's by far the most forced character in this series
I disagree with this. Blaze is just knuckles again but from another dimension instead of just on a secluded island, but also like the Sonic and Knuckles of her world at the same time, but also a girl version of Shadow. But also his new love interest (at least according to Blazefags).
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Arguments about Silver and Blaze are beyond my tism level
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>>566322694
Too bad he debuted with that and the attempts to separate him from it all flopped hard. But maybe in Silver's future he'll have an opportunity to not flip without Blaze, that would be nice. We just all need to collectively agree that Silver and Blaze need to stay separated.
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>>566322510
Shitazefag please sit the fuck down, the first people who make it notable that Silver gets anything are you trannytard with your melties.
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>>566322927
this desu

>>566323074
i cannot hear you over the low effort slop you are currently stuffing into your face without a second thought
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>>566322837
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>>566322837
Than by all means she should get vaulted because her inclusion is forced and makes other character OOC.
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>>566323192
>Sonally shit
This proves that Sonaze fans don't like Sonic
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>>566323192
I cannot take Blaze as a serious character when the only time i see her is in forced shipping slop when Silverfags are just having fun on their own
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>>566323074
Did you forget to take your medication this morning?
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>>566323232
cuuuuute

>>566323264
maybe? unfortunately for you, she's too popular to put on the backburner.
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>>566323192
pic related really isn't doing anything to beat the allegations lol.
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>>566322289
bro thats nothing I've had silverfags cite Mario and Sonic At The Winter Olympic Games at me
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>>566323367
Could be worse. Could be Sonadow, because nothing says I hate Sonic more than making him gay and behave like Amy
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>>566323420
>says right between a Silver ship slop pic and a Blaze having fun on her own pic
lmao, you can't make this stuff up.
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>>566323536
Sonadow fags are the worst
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>>566323192
>Huge chest
You can tell her only fans only care about the sex appeal she will never truly have
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>I hate Silver because he's around!
>Why do you complain about him again?
>We never did that!
Blazefags everyone, they keep lumping this leech to us because she can't survive on her own
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>>566323420
Consume media that doesn't come from the echo chamber you're currently embedded in I guess

>>566323491
were never beating the Blaze is cute allegations... Oh woe is you.
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>>566323374
>>566317808
We don't fucking give a shit. Talk about shipping and headcanons instead.
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Drawing Blaze with anything more than small breasts means you hate blaze
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>>566322393
would you say silver just acts like sonic then? he has clear diffrences with sonic which makes him more ''heroic'' and more of an inverse shadow. it's not that sonic can't be heroic but he's more connected to things like freedom or fun than hope and protection. silver is more likely to stop and think about ethics, being righteous and such and is more emotional and protective. sonic is more aloof and doesn't actively seek out to fix the world or tail bad guys. shit like idw sonic moralfagging or having doubts that people call ooc would've worked for sonic. but because people write sonic as what they think he is rather than the aloof merchant he is silver got written as uwuver which was bad for both sonicfags and silverfags.
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Blaze works better as an Amy and Cream friend than a Sonic rival or even Silver ship fodder.
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>>566323724
Meanwhile
>yfw when trying not to mention Blaze every five seconds
>yfw trying to let a Blaze post be without dumping on it
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>>566323790
Good I love big tits and hate flatties.
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Sonally fans get a lot of hate for mischaracterization but all of you do it
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>>566323536
>>566323670
>Say nothing
>Make people mad
RENT FREEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>566323536
>>566323670
2027 will repel them like bug spray and they're going to fully deserve it
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>>566323603
Silver ships overpower Blaze shitty interactions with anyone if we're going there.
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I am Shadow's wife. You aren't allowed to post Shadow with other women now.
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>Silver isn't Sonic's rival he is his own character who does lots of cool stuff like time travel and beat up bad guys
>06 doesn't count
>he just needs a new game where he time travels and beats up bad guys
>and it definitely won't have Iblis or Blaze
Yes, Silver failed to be another Shadow, but he was supposed to. Yes, Silver is about Silvaze. Blaze dies and turns into the sun of the blue skies that Silver has sworn to protect. Protecting those blue skies is literally the entire point of his character post-06. SSSfags and Silvazefujos have a better grasp on the character than Silverfags. This argument makes me more retarded every time I have it.
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>>566323470
>she's too popular
Lol
Kek
Lmao
Tell us what wrong will happen in universe and in real life if she fucked off?
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>>566323816
NTA but you make decent points. That said, moralfagging issue largely exists because IDWs story was contrived to generate it.
Sonic doesn't usually do things like worry about fixing Metal Sonic or whatever. It was just contrived so that the story can bully him later.
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>>566324056
Okay, I'll only post Shadilver from now on
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>>566324056
Rouge...
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>>566323997
>that bended knee
gaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay
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>>566324083
>Blaze dies and turns into the sun of the blue skies that Silver has sworn to protect.
nice fanfic, Shipfag.
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>>566323816
They have distinct personalities but ultimately serve the exact same narrative role. Nothing Silver does is unique. Sonic is a beacon of hope himself, him being aloof about it doesn't change that
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>>566324083
Silver wanted to sacrifice himself, shitaze just wanted some spotlight, without her the story could've gone better, in fact without her the entire fandom would've gone better.
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>>566324137
Tell us what would happen if Shadow 2.0 fucked off in universe and in real life

Blaze has fans and a sizable presence in the fandom, a fanbase, and a positive reception. seethe about it
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Blaze won.
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I’m convinced this Blaze and Silver shit is coordinated, and someone is playing both sides.
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>>566323943
Nobody is worse at understanding the characters than Archiefags. Even game Journos understand the characters better than Archiefags.
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TANAB-
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>>566324198
We shouldn't, it's a forbidden pair. That means either Shadow needs to wait 200 years to meet his husband, or that Silver never tells Shadow they are gay in the future. They make me sad
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>>566324370
this desu
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>>566324312
I wouldn't really call Silver being a beacon of hope as the main thing about the character.
I do agree SSS is a forced meme though. That said I do see Silver as having value as a character and for future stories.
Silver always has the potential to enhance or add to a scenario.
This isn't true of every character.
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Imagine Sonicing a Hedgehog
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>>566324410
It's the Blaze spammer who posted a few years ago. He got better at shitposting
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>>566324410
I've said before that the fag that spams the potiential man memes did the same for silver
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Sonic is gay
Tails is nonbinary
Amy is trans
Shadow in gender fluid
Knuckles is black
Blaze is bisexual lesbian

I don't make the rules but actually I do. Deal with it.
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Who you root for?
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>>566322489
My point is that we've had a pretty visible shadowfag problem here ever since year of shadow started, so complaining about knucklesfags just comes across as bizarre when they barely post anymore.
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>>566323843
Nope she ruins Cream by making her a stupid child and makes Amy feel like a dumb cuck, fuck off they have better friends and she has marine in her coal dimension
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>>566324291
I'm not a "shipfag" you're just retarded and ignoring what Sonic Team is literally telling you. You, the audience, are supposed to have a bittersweet feeling when Silver is enjoying the peace, because he had to sacrifice Blaze to achieve it. That is like at least half his character.

>>566324323
Without his arc with Blaze in 06 there is no story and Silver is even more of a nothingburger.
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>>566324339
Well she is the most prominent female character who isn't either sex appeal or a carebear.
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Boy I'm slidin' now (I'm gone)
They say you can't miss with that switch, I'm tryna find out (rrah)
That nigga made a song called "Slide", and he be hidin' now (wha'?)
Don't let us find out (boom-boom)
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>>566324719
Surge since she's more relevant, better designed, and had more effort put into her creation
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>>566324719
>tfw considering dowloading this game again just to shit on IDW
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>>566324579
>Silver always has the potential to enhance or add to a scenario
I don't think so because to me Silver was poorly conceived from the start. He has the worst story in 06 and nothing in that game or subsequent material did anything to make me care for him.
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>>566324719
Any character that isn't Silver gets my vote
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This game seems like it was made for 2000sfags
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aQoEd5rnxiQ
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>>566323843
It was hard for me to see Blaze as a rival to Sonic after Rush until I thought of it in a more playful sense. The vibe is two people who care about each other in a tender way, yes, but Sonic's energy would be "I'll push her buttons since she can take it" and Blaze's would be "He's testing me, we shall see who can test who harder."
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>>566324781
All silverfags can process are headcanon, hype moments and aura... Please understand...
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>>566324781
>You, the audience, are supposed to have a bittersweet feeling when Silver is enjoying the peace, because he had to sacrifice Blaze to achieve it.
No anon, that's not what happened. Silver was gonna sacrifice himself and Blaze decided to do it instead and then tells Silver to warp her to another dimension, and Silver can't bring himself to do it. Blaze then does it herself and smiles at Silver because Silver's disposition is not something he is supposed to change. The point of the story is that Silver's earnestness is a good thing. Yes Blaze being gone is supposed to be bittersweet but it isn't the point in and of itself.
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>>566324339
Kek
Lmao
Silver is integrated in the story and has a much more higher fandom size than shitaze that made fan games and finished them, animations and collabs, Without Silver damages would be very obvious, without Female Big nobody would even realise it happened after 2 years because THAT'S EXACTLY WHAT HAPPENED IN 2023
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>>566324291
That's exactly what happens in the cutscene though.
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The Sonic and Friends tiktok videos made Silver look so cool guys.....
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>>566325218
he is a forced meme at best. thank you for the delusion induced keks you've given me with this post desu
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>>566325023
>It was hard for me to see Blaze as a rival to Sonic after Rush until I thought of it in a more playful sense.
...so you admit it doesn't really exist, you just choose to see it where it isn't.
Got it.
>"I'll push her buttons since she can take it" and Blaze's would be "He's testing me, we shall see who can test who harder."
That makes more sense for Amy desu.
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>>566325371
Just look at these replies at how cool Silver is
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>>566324867
>T. seething Blazefag
We don't need your shitty pity points, have you toddler spite fight elsewhere
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>>566324921
>I don't think so because to me Silver was poorly conceived from the start.
So was Knuckles, Cream, Big and Blaze. That doesn't factor into whether they have any redeeming aspects to their concept or character.
>He has the worst story in 06
That's Sonic's.
>nothing in that game or subsequent material did anything to make me care for him.
Okay but clearly tons of people liked him and still do. the world doesn't revolve around you.
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>>566325045
>Blaze decided to do it instead
No Silver *can't* do it. But he has to sacrifice something. That's the point. Again literally right here >>566324083 from Sonic Channel telling you that is the point.

>>566325034
I'm at my limit, man. The only thing that's gonna get them to understand is when Silver finally gets a game and it's about Silvaze and Iblis. Like that's the only way it's going to register they missed or deliberarely ignored everything over the last 20 years.
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Japanese Sally Acorn
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I can't imagine being an unironic silver fan, its just one long unending humiliation ritual that you are a willing participant in
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>>566325373
Stop shitting on yourself you're telling us Blaze is worse than a forced meme
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>>566324312
eh i just think his personality has some value considering most people that aren't windfags turn him into what silver would act like. people do yearn for a character the same archetype as silver.

i don't think being a beacon of hope is his only purpose either. though all the SSS, even shadow, are bringers of hope through different places and times. this is why only they can utrn into super since super form is roughly the symbolism of embodying people's last hopes. it works well for rounding out the trio. (although shadow failed he was made to bring hope to humanity) but even if you think that's forced silver due to his distinct personality can be used for filling some slot people yearn for without mangling sonic himself for it.
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>>566325578
>Donic
>Rails
>Eadow
>Amy
>Muckles
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>>566325578
I don't really just like Silver, i like every character but Blaze
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>>566325578
I know Shadow is the second most popular character in the series, but him being shoved into the core 4 like this always feels weird. Like, Shadow shouldn't be bundled with Sonic's friends like that.
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>>566325414
>...so you admit it doesn't really exist, you just choose to see it where it isn't.
No, I didn't say that at all. I said my perspective on things changed.
>That makes more sense for Amy desu.
No it doesn't. Amy isn't stuck behind walls, and wouldn't respond to physical teasing and competition in a way that's fun to him. That's Blaze.
You're literally just doing the meme here >>566323921
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I hope everyone who implies that Silver is Shadow's son dies. Every fan comic maker, every commenter and every shipfag shoving this retarded headcanon down my throat in a forced attempt to make Shadow look cool
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>>566325570
>poorly conceived from the start
>knuckles
???
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>>566325884
he isn't' sonic and the stoopid friends are in the back
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I used to love Blaze but as time as gone on (and interacting with her fans) I have become soured on the character.
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>>566325504
>t. Paranoid Silverfag
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>Silver having a great character realisation in the comics
>Silver getting a fun rivalry with Suge
Blazefags for some reason:
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>>566323374
Keep talking king
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Silver is Shadow and Maria's distant great great great great great great grandson actually.
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>>566325974
Anon, learn to read. I mean that it would make more sense for Amy top be doing that with Blaze instead of Sonic.
Your Sonaze autism got you acting illiterate.
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>>566325414
It's not made up, it's in the Sonic Channel story.

Blaze tells Sonic to fuck off, Sonic is like "yes I love her closed off heart, time to do a bit of trolling to open her up", Blaze gets overwhelmed, Sonic shows up to save the day, he quips, then Blaze's composure breaks (she stutters) and she finally accepts his help, acknowledges that he is always helping her, and they team up.

That's their dynamic.
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>>566326110
>Silver having a great character realisation in the comics
Nobody except people who chop off their dicks think comic SIlver is good
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>>566326109
Sorry anon but i'm not, not every anon who can heat up one brain cell is your boogey man
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>>566325640
Blaze is pretty good and cool though
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>>566325570
>So was Knuckles, Cream, Big and Blaze
All those characters are better established in their debut than Silver. Even Big who is a meme character.
>That doesn't factor into whether they have any redeeming aspects to their concept or character.
His concept literally doesn't work. This "light Sonic" bullshit takes away elements from Sonic and his time travel nature makes him awkward to incorporate in narratives and actively undermines everyone else by making it seem that Silver was the missing piece of the puzzle that guaranteed victory. Literally artificially making him more relevant. He would work better as a one off character
>That's Sonic's.
Not really Sonic's story at least attempts to develop a narrative with Elise meanwhile Silver's campaign has him be led by Mephiles and wander around aimlessly the whole game. Blaze's sacrifice at the end is downright embarrassing to watch
>Okay but clearly tons of people liked him and still do. the world doesn't revolve around you.
People like Silver based on hypotheticals or that he has "cool powers" not on anything actually substantial. Not even his gameplay is fun, it's literally just fanon propping him up
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>>566326270
I read the whole thing anon. You're inserting a lot of stuff that isn't in there.
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>>566324312
i think the distinct personality alone makes him worthy of getting narratives, almost anyone that isn't a windfag writes sonic as something vaguely resembling silver which makes me think people do yearn for an archetype silver embodies.

all SSS are ''bringer of hope'' through different time and places, (even shadow was made to bring hope to humanity, although he failed which is why he is the ''dark scenario) and super forms are hopes and dreams of everyone around them embodied which is why the ''only soniclikes'' can get super forms rule exists. but again even if you think that kind of mirroring they have is redundant, the fact people yearn for an archetype vaguely resembling silver makes me think he still has a place you can expand on without mangling sonic or shadow's established characters for it.
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>>566326302
You're telling us that That Blazefags that admit that they're pedophiles liking school boys don't do that or something
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>>566326427
What distinct personality? That he's serious and straight to the point? Sonic could be that too
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>>566326551
Doesn't she look great?
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everyone in this general is fucking illiterate except Krack
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>>566326810
Oh great a new flag
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>>566326551
>>566326678
>>566326707
>>566326810
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>>566326823
Why does sthg allow a foid to have better media literacy than them??
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>>566326328
No Anon you maybe misunderstanding or you might be a new fan but Blaze is neither of those in fact she's more of:

The most overrated garbage in Sonic history

Imagine taking a character with less personality than a sack of rocks, slapping some purple fur and "pyrokinesis" on her, and calling it a day. Blaze is the epitome of Sonic Team's inability to write compelling female characters without relying on tired tropes and forced "deep" backstories.

>"B-b-but she’s from another dimension!"
Wow, a lazy excuse to shove her into any game without consequences. Unlike Shadow, who at least has ties to the main universe, Blaze’s dimension is so irrelevant even Sega forgets it exists half the time. Remember when she was from the future? No? Because Sonic 06 got Thanos-snapped from canon.

>"She’s so cool and reserved!"
AKA she has the emotional range of a brick. Her entire character is "I’m stoic and have duty™." Even Silver has more development, and he’s a walking meme.

>"Her powers are unique!"
Fire manipulation in a series where everyone in media and their mother has elemental abilities. Big deal. She’s just Knuckles if you replaced fists with the most generic superpower known to man.

>Forced rivalry with Sonic
Remember when they tried to make her Sonic’s "equal" in Rush? LMAO. She jobs harder than Vegeta. Her biggest achievement is being slightly less useless than Marine.

>The furry bait factor
Let’s be real 90% of her "fans" only care because she’s a """classy""" cat girl. If she looked like Bark the Polar Bear, nobody would remember her.

Bottom line: Blaze is a nothing character carried by aesthetics and nostalgia for mid 2000s Sonic games. She’s the equivalent of putting gold leaf on a McDonald’s burger and calling it gourmet.

>inb4 "you just don’t get her"
I get her. She’s boring. Now go cope with your poorly written feline OC.
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>>566323843
Amy & Cream are better with Rouge, Blaze only works with Amy 1 on 1, or as an addition to Amy, Cream & Rouge as a whole.
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>>566326829
Aroace means you're asexual and only sexually attracted to people you're emotionally attracted to

Also known as "straight"
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>>566326670
impulsive and emotional, agressive, can have his doubts, righteous and more of a straight up hero moralfaggy type. sonic in comparison is an aloof merchant who isn't really allowed to screw up or be ''too emotional'' idw and archie wrote him vaguely silver like and sonicfags themselves hated it because silver is definitely not sonic or shadow even if he mirrors them.
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>>566327101
nah Blaze is cool and good. seethe
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>>566327101
TRVKE
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>>566327101
chatgpt post
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SA2 is the military failing to defeat 3 foot blobians
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>>566326414
>All those characters are better established in their debut than Silver. Even Big who is a meme character.
I don't see how. Especially Cream. Blaze doesn't even get any establishing until the end of the game and even that isn't properly developed at all until the sequel.
>This "light Sonic" bullshit takes away elements from Sonic.
Not really. Sonic is supposed to be a more Chaotic Good. Silver is more of a Lawful Good.
>and his time travel nature makes him awkward to incorporate in narratives.
Not really. I don't think Silver needs to be in every story to begin with, but him coming back from the future or characters going to the future with him to stop things works simply enough.
>undermines everyone else by making it seem that Silver was the missing piece of the puzzle that guaranteed victory.
This is such a weird complaint. You can use this to dismiss every character ever then.
"Tails undermines Sonic because without Tails, Sonic wouldn't have anyone to fly the Tornado to the Winged Fortress!"
"Knuckles undermines Sonic and Tails because without him they cant get to Sky Sanctuary!"
Shadow undermines Sonic because Sonic needing Shadow to fight the Biolizard and Final Hazard undermines the cast!"
It's a pretty forced complaint. Character sin a story are expected to do something that matters and contributes to the narrative. I don't see why Silver doing something even small tat ultimately matters is some narrative travesty as you make it out to be.
>Not really Sonic's story at least attempts to develop a narrative with Elise
And Silver's is about whether it is right to kill someone to save the future, especially if it would hurt others to do so.
between the two, one is clearly better paced and better executed.
>People like Silver based on hypotheticals or that he has "cool powers
Who cares? you can say that about most characters. Same with Blaze.
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>>566326257
>Anon, learn to read.
Learn to explain yourself the first time.
>I mean that it would make more sense for Amy top be doing that with Blaze instead of Sonic.
Not really. Sonic is very physically playful in a thrill seeking way that Amy has never been. And Sonic can take people under his wing, in a sense, if he likes them, and they can keep up. Those traits have been very apparent since Sonic 2 and Sonic CD and Blaze fits every criteria to animate them both. Amy doesn't have a monopoly on care, and her way is usually talking, hugs, and if she's mad, physical aggression in a way that's supposed to be scolding, not playful.
>Your Sonaze autism got you acting illiterate.
>shipping out of literally nowhere
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>>566327262
NTA but you've going in circles, you said first you don't care about her relevance and now force us to believe she's more relevant or even good
>Post Blaze smut
That's mostly the only reason why she's still around, she's a female.
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>>566327354
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>>566327319
seeing these >>566325648 >>566326427

You're right, there's definitely a bot in here
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"Sonic can ONLY gave 1 (x thing here)!!!" is Flynn coded
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Stacyaze mindbroke you
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>>566327101
Holy seethe, lmao.
Blaze is a very cool and mystical game character.
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>>566327101
>Let’s be real 90% of her "fans" only care because she’s a """classy""" cat girl
This is pretty true desu.
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>>566326823
She had a melty about Shadally
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>>566327604
Nice head, headface
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>>566327558
>Blazefags shitting up the thread
>"there's a bot in here"
Really?
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>>566326936
Toxic masculinity, middling IQ, and anti-intellectualism.
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>>566327780
There are freaks who would have posted this unironically
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>>566327106
I actually enjoyed Amy, Cream and Rouge together in IDW with the Chao Races arc. They were fun.
Part of me wonders what could have been if they kept them as the trio in Heroes. Rouge crapping on Amy's love for Sonic works a lot better dynamic wise as well if you ask me.
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>>566327720
Like always it's Silverfags shitting on Blaze and not understanding Silver and Blazefags defending Blaze and explaining Silver.
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>>566327610
Really? can she be interesting on her own? what's cool about her that isn't already done by other characters? whats mystical about her that is not a headcanon?
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>>566327452
I'm not really concerned with convincing random anons on the internet of anything.
>the only reason she's still around is she's female
okay, and? this doesn't hurt my ego any. she's cool and good. there's plenty of reasons to like her, that's why she has a consistent fanbase despite not insisting on herself.
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>>566327935
TRVKE but only if you reversed the characters
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>>566327995
This art is horrid
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>>566327780
jet being a faggot who hates faggots sounds so ic for some reason
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>provoke the thread with low quality Blazehate shitposting
>thread responds by posting Blaze, since people like her and don't appreciate the slander
>"Waah Blazefags are shitting up the thread"
Silverfags are the dumbest niggers on Earth.
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Silverfags are literally just chuds
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>>566326810
I wish all flagfaggots a very kill yourselves.
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>Silverfags take it personally if you don't like Silver
>Blazefags shrug if you don't like Blaze

What's the point of trying to convince someone to like a character that they don't like?
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>>566328221
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>>566328139
>Jet conflicted because he wants to hatefuck Sonic
Yeah, in character.
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>>566328067
>let me explain Silver to you
>he goes back in time and beats up bad guys
wow
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>>566328150
SILVERFAGS ETERNALLY BTFO
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>>566328320
This is Sonic. It's literally built to run on red, white, and blue, so that one doesn't count.
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>>566327957
You don't get it, there's nothing good and cool about her other than her superficial image of being a female, her consistent fanbase is consistent on being whiny bitches with schizophrenia about Silver only.
>not insisting on herself.
You can't be serious, Blaze are known first and foremost at being assertive with their narrative, suggesting an entering sub series, demanding attention when Silver is literally getting it, and hold firmly on their headcanons which consist of shipping and cope
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>>566328290
You just don't understand the potential he has. You would like him if you did
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>>566327945
To you, nothing, to me, a many things I'm sure you've heard before. But it's like explaining civilization, infrastructure, ethics, and public trust to a monkey. They just wouldn't get it, they'd just throw shit at it.
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>>566327372
>Learn to explain yourself the first time.
Anon, you coulda just said "oops sorry". learn to be accountable.
>Sonic is very physically playful in a thrill seeking way
What does that even mean? Its like you thought if you just put buzzwords we associate with Sonic in the sentence, it would fly under the radar.
>that Amy has never been.
Being very physically intimate AND being a thrill seeker are literally 2 of her most prominent character traits. It's why she is always glomping, hugging, shoving people and getting into their personal space. And Amy being a thrill seeker is why she chases Sonic to begin with.
>And Sonic can take people under his wing, in a sense, if he likes them, and they can keep up.
Sonic doesn't really do this though. Tails kinda just did it and Sonic was like "shrugs" and then took a shine to him after a while as he did so. And that was just Tails.

>out of nowhere
You aren't fooling anyone.
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>>566327558
it was me who double posted, the intiail one went too late so me being retarded, i thought it didn't post so i made another comment, it isn't botting.
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>>566328150
>Random youtube poll
Blazefags are in the gutters if this is what they need to survive with while targeting Silver of all characters holy fuck
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>>566328487
>headcanons
No it's canon, you're just a media illiterate retard. Your conception of both Silver and Blaze is "they travel to Sonic's world and beat up bad guys". You are a retard and less intelligent than shippers.
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>>566328523
Kek
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>>566327349
Cream is introduced in a game with a very light focus on story. Regardless she's a side character that wants to rescue her mom. It's a simple motivation for a simple character and it's effective and works

Silver meanwhile... Was raised on a destroyed future, wants to save it, is a complete tool and starts following this random guy which btw had nothing to do with him at all, and then Blaze sacrifices herself without any proper build up in one of the worst cutscenes in Sonic history. His dynamic with Blaze is close to non existent and he actively made Sonic worse by being portrayed as way stronger than him. If you're writing a complex story you are met with higher standards and that's something Silver fails to meet completely. His future isn't even properly shown at all, from what we see it's just hell despite it being said there were survivors... Somewhere

Those lawful/chaotic good are so arbitrary. Sonic doesn't care about being a good person but he has strong morals and displays them through heroic actions. Silver being slightly different in motivation doesn't actually make him distinct enough to justify using him over Sonic in any given scenario

Silver's time travel isn't explained in any capacity, has no consistent rules and is used arbitrarily

I'm not against characters contributing however in the examples you used, the characters actively contributed to the narrative. Silver being the most important character of all because he destroyed a badnik isn't narratively satisfying or engaging at all

I already explained why Silver's story is dogshit so I won't go much further, but Silver's story has way worse pacing (again it's just him being led around) and this theme of killing others isn't well executed or worked upon at all

>Who cares?
I care because I want good things that exist
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>>566328290
>Blazefags take it personally if you like Silver
FTFY shitazefag
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>>566328150
The argument started because a Blazefag was shitting her diaper about Silver at the end of the last thread. Fym?
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Krack and Gabs are more intelligent and knowledgable about Silver and Blaze than /sthg/.
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>>566328907
Not one person besides the resident insecure Silverfags thinks this
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>>566328754
Sonic doesn't like Blaze, Amy and Blaze are not friends, Blaze is not prominent, important or even slightly popular, and no Blaze doesn't have psychic abilities
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>>566328907
sus.... amogus....
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>>566329043
Everyone thinks this because everyone can see it dipshit, why do you think this shit show is happening when Silver is getting some stuff?
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>>566328550
>Anon, you coulda just said "oops sorry". learn to be accountable.
No, you didn't explain yourself clearly. I'm not a mind reader. Take out own advice.
>What does that even mean?
Confused by everything, curious about nothing, as always. Do I really need to keep explaining Sonic to you? Here's a picture, it's worth 1,000 words.
>Being very physically intimate AND being a thrill seeker are literally 2 of her most prominent character traits.
That's not remotely the kind of dynamic I was alluding to.
>Sonic doesn't really do this though.
Except for the many times he has and continues to do it, I guess. Tails, Chip, Blaze, Marine, Merlina, to name a few.
>You aren't fooling anyone.
You're a bad faith retard. Talking to you is a pain in the ass.
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>>566328919
I posted "Silver failed to be Sonic's rival" and "Blaze is Silver's mirror" and Silverfags threw a shitfit like always because they're too retarded to understand their own character
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Westfags start talking about the characters and it's like "Yeah Tails is attracted to idiot girls didn't you read this comic that was written with 0 oversight?"
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>>566328290
>Blazefags shrug if you don't like Blaze
Great! i can call her the useless sidekick nobody needs and actually relax
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This thread's lousy. Who wants puzzle?
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>>566328945
What does krack think about those characters
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>>566329214
Again, not one person besides the resident insecure Silverfags thinks this
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>>566328868
>Cream is introduced in a game with a very light focus on story. Regardless she's a side character that wants to rescue her mom. It's a simple motivation for a simple character and it's effective and works
But the reason she was conceived was to be an additional girl in the core cast and be Amy's Tails and she fails at being both these things. Hence why I said she is ill conceived.
>autistic whining about Silver existing.
moving on...
>Those lawful/chaotic good are so arbitrary
It isn't though. It's to show they aren't the same. People keep trying to turn Sonic into Spiderman and I'm sick of it. Especially when Silver is right there and is more of a traditionally heroic character.

>Silver being the most important character of all because he destroyed a badnik isn't narratively satisfying or engaging at all
He isn't more important than everyone else just because something he did mattered. This is just you trying to sell me something.
>I care because I want good things that exist
Clearly not. your standards shift constantly.
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Silverspergs are exhausting
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>>566329317
That's...not the reason anon i think you're confused.
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>>566329471
I do
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>>566329456
>Silverfags having to desperately convince everyone that their failed protagonist is good by attacking non-related characters

Lol
Lmao
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you are hopeless
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I’m here for validation from my fellow autists
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>>566329519
Please tell us why Blazefags shit the thread about her being better than Silver when Silver gets anything in media? what do (you) think?
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Oh word, Silver got some new content? Was it like a new game or something substantial like that???
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Chris is just Sora from Kingdom Hearts
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>>566329063
>Amy and Blaze are not friends
She becomes friends with Amy and Cream in Rush though. Moreso Cream but still. Amy was the one that insisted they were friends and Blaze found it weird. Then cream says she agrees with Amy that they are all friends since a friend of a friend is a friend.
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Both Blaze and Silver suck
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>>566329594
Yes silverfag, keep gushing about your headcanons like you always do
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>>566329412
What is this? telling us Blaze is not popular enough for any media site other than Pinterest?
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>>566329771
I don't think anyone is upset that Silver got content. I think you're vastly overestimating how important it is to people who don't care about Silver, however
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>>566329982
No retard, i never thought it was important, appearantly Blazeshitters who are talking right in front of you, think so.
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>>566329412
cute dress!
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>>566329614
This >>566315315 is the post that started this round of Silver and Blaze retardation.

Nothing I said is untrue. This kinda shit >>566329542 proves my point. Silver failed to be Sonic's rival so the fandom wants parallels to Sonic and Amy with Silver as "the Amy" but nobody understands shit. Like Silver and Blaze not remembering each other is part of their relationship.

Silverspergs don't understand any of this shit.
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>>566330084
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>>566330084
>Not shown: penetration
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>>566329850
Something Something more than Blaze ever gets in her 20 years of nothing so it's good.
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>>566330084
Hocke looks like a muppet
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>>566330104
I think you're being paranoid and lashing out because you're upset. I'm not seeing any of that here.
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>>566329238
>No, you didn't explain yourself clearly. I'm not a mind reader. Take out own advice.
Anon, why would I have meant it in any other way other than how I said?
Think a little.
>Confused by everything, curious about nothing, as always. Do I really need to keep explaining Sonic to you? Here's a picture, it's worth 1,000 words.
That's a real neat way of being evasive.
>That's not remotely the kind of dynamic I was alluding to.
Then maybe you should take your own advice and explain better. I'm not a mind reader.

>Except for the many times he has and continues to do it, I guess. Tails, Chip, Blaze, Marine, Merlina, to name a few.

>Tails
I already said so.
>Chip
He thought he knocked him on the head and felt responsible for his amnesia.
>Blaze
you can't use the example in contention as evidence for your argument
>Marine
They were stranded on an island and Marine helped them find parts to make ships to get off of it. They spend the entire game actually feeling precautious about Marine tagging along since she is so reckless....
>Merlina
Now you're just pulling my chain. Merlina is the one that summons Sonic to her works and gives him the quest.
When she reveals she was using him, he fights her.
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>>566330227
Anon i.. don't care? these are fandoms having fun, i just fucking hate Blaze with passion
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>>566330267
would
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Shadow fucking Sally
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>>566330378
This shit is already debunked.
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>>566330409
She mindbroke silver cucks.
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>>566330409
I am telling you why the argument started.

Keep up retard.
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>Blaze shrug it off when you don't like Blaze
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>>566329649
I can't connect to jiggie.fun. We're stuck here forever.
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>>566329954
I'm not even a Silverfag. I'm an Amyfriend.
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I Googled something similar to this once when I was really young and I found smutfics featuring Sally x Tails and Bunnie x Tails and I'm pretty sure it ruined me with a debilitating /ss/ fetish
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>Silverfags in charge of understanding Silver
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>>566329853
What's Chris's Keyblade like? Is it shaped like
Sonic's head?
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>>566330531
It's the opposite, Silver mindbroke every Blazefag instinctively and it's so fun bullying them by questioning their delusions, like for example, you hate Silvaze yet you post art work of artists who ship them heavily, did you know that?
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>>566330531
Imagine looking at this cute cat and your first reaction is to seethe. wtf is wrong with the world
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>>566330819
It's intelligent.
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>>566330806
I don't care about Silvaze I just like pissing you off
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>>566330535
And i am telling you that happened because Silver gained some more relevance and Blazefags are getting a bit too uppity about it
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BEEP BEEP
BUCKLE UP FUCKERS WE'RE READY TO MUG
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>>566330804
Chris's keyblade would look like Sora's but with Sonic's head on the chain instead of Mickey's
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>>566330936
Does this end with them cuddling in an abandoned shed...?
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>>566330806
silverchud
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>>566330670
>>566330936
Every fanfic kept giving him two dicks
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>>566330267
I actually like this OC but that's in large part because I like Egypt.
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>>566330970
And i seriously care about you proving me wrong, what so great about Blaze that is not stolen or just being a female bait?
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>>566331185
There is a non-zero chance this fag comes here
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>>566330227
No, it happened because I said the Blaze vs Sonic dynamic has no real dynamic and the Blazefag made it about Silver for no reason and kept accusing me of being a Silverfag even though I'm not.
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>>566331301
They all come here to fight each other privately
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>>566330806
Shitting on Blaze isn’t going to accomplish anything. Her creator left Sonic Team and now all they want to do with her is parallelism with Silver.
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>>566331140
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>>566331402
Sounds like a Silverfag trying to falseflag Blazefags
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>>566330462
Sonic's girlfriend
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Blazefags and Silverfags have the same dynamic as JP Sonic purists and Sonallyfags
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>>566331117
OUGHHH I'M MUGGGING IT OUGHHH I'M MUGGGING IT OUGHHH I'M MUGGGING IT OUGHHH I'M MUGGGING IT OUGHHH I'M MUGGGING IT OUGHHH I'M MUGGGING IT OUGHHH I'M MUGGGING IT OUGHHH I'M MUGGGING IT OUGHHH I'M MUGGGING IT OUGHHH I'M MUGGGING IT OUGHHH I'M MUGGGING IT I FUCKING LOVE DRINKING MUG SO MUCH ANONS GRAHHHHHH
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>>566331301
sthg isn't a place to discuss sonic. it's a battleground for discord and twitterfags to air their grievances while passing it off as news about sonic, like proxy wars. this place would die immediately if all of it was banned
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>>566331472
Fucking kek.
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>>566331402
Yes in response to my post.

And you're still wrong and a media illiterate chud.
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>>566330462
Shadow's wife
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>>566331494
This is why you can't have serious conversations on this board
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>>566331454
It will accomplish vaulting her for her small fandom status and stop leeching her to Silver for her own benefit in his expense, we've seen more interesting concepts and plots with Silver away from her and barely anything with Blaze in the these past 15 years, it's obvious that she's washed and they trying to pull Silver back with her because she's a female
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LOOK AT THIS BADASS PHOTO
COOLER THAN ANY SONIC THING EVER MADE
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>>566331916
Delusional
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You now remember
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>tfw Blaze will always be popular
>tfw Blazefagswill never have to beg for content or relevance because Blaze is perfect as she is
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>>566331903
Someone should make an edit of this with the actual Nega.
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>>566331916
>silverfag was a schizo all along
unsurprising
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Silver and Blaze’s dynamic is inherently boring because it’s predicated on Blaze not having her character flaws around him because he’s pure or whatever. I don’t understand how anyone can eat that up or think it’s better than Blaze’s dynamic with anyone else.
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>>566331730
Enjoy your fanfiction I guess.
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>>566331940
We know Mariosissie
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>>566331842
Shadow and Amy are not into each other
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No matter how scary the world becomes, all you need is one ring.

Don’t ever give up.
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>Wife material identified
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>>566322495
i don't think anyone is denying that silver and blaze are supposed to shipping, but it's not really any different from saying ''shadow is about shadria shipping and that's why he sucks and can't be anything more''

moreover, both shadria and silvaze and even sonaze are mirroing of sonamy(no silver is not the amy), so youd have to blame cd.
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>>566331916
No it won’t. It will only piss people off. Sonic Team will not vault her and will just keep using her with Silver.
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>>566332271
Blaze's dynamic with everyone is boring though. Its just her being a straightman and everyone being more interesting around her and forcing her to stop being a grump.

She's like Squidward except she doesn't face any real consequence.
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>>566323374
>blends slow, technical sections with incredibly fast-paced moments, providing a uniquely dynamic gameplay experience.

Does this describe Sonic's gameplay today?
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Can we move Silverfags and Blazefags to their own containment board
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>>566332554
No
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>>566332271
They were one-shot by the Iblis sacrifice. They love overly-sentimental wank and esoteric Japanese mysticism. I will never understand it myself.
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>>566323374
>The speed in Sonic was always for spectacle.
Welp
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>>566323961
>has image issues
>likes wearing dresses
>wants to be something he can't
>uses external "life form data" to change
>most stories involve being forced to conform to someone else's will
>most famous stories involve his own suicide
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>>566329412
>first Silver image is him in a dress
Worst fanbase.
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>>566332661
I wish
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>>566332432
Amy is not Maria's reincarnation and Shadow will only love Maria
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Maria:
Tikal
Hope
Rouge

Not Maria:
Amy
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>>566329412
>sonic the hedgehog cool
>shadow the hedgehog cool
>silver the hedgehog cool
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>>566332773
>They were one-shot by the Iblis sacrifice.
Meeanwhile Sonazefags who were one-shotted by Super Sonic and Burning Blaze separating. I don't get it either.
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>>566332968
Why is there two tangles
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>>566333008
The only Maria is Maria anon.
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>>566332445
Shadow can't meaningfully do much else but talk about "mub ria". He has a good narrative in 06 and Battle around being the Ultimate Lifeform, at least.

Silver really can't escape Silvaze because Blaze isn't dead like Maria. She's an actual character, but they don't really share any lore outside of their relationship, so any narrative is always going to circle back to the relationship itself. And Silver doesn't really have any connection to his backstory or lore or a cast except Blaze to make his narratives meaningful.
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Sonic is going to talk like Tony Stark forever now
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>>566333008
If Tikal and Rouge are Maria, then Amy is definitely Maria. Also, you forgot Chris Thorndyke
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>MMMMMMMMMMMMM WIFE
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>>566332896
https://youtu.be/yxEuKyTvXuM?

Tangle
>Let's blast through with Tangle speed

Whisper
>Uuuuu~

Lanolin
>Alri-[LOADING]
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>>566333008
>>566333312
don't forget molly
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>>566333312
Amy isn't Maria
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>>566333260
>Silver really can't escape Silvaze because
because the fanbase is obsessed with every character needing to be shipped and defined by a ship. And neither blaze nor Silver have much going for them to make up the difference and overpower shipping discourse.
Even Amy gets talked about outside of ships more these days and shipping is built into her goddamn character.
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>>566333165
For me it's because I can sympathize with Sonic and Blaze. The point of Sonic and Blaze isn't the mysticism itself; even though there's an explicit force, the emeralds, the metaphysics are allegorical for their relationship. In Silver and Blaze the metaphysics are the point; there is some implicit force that ordains them to be seperated because it's based on tanabata.

Silver and Blaze are subjected to Silvaze because there is a missing explicit force seperating them. Sonic and Blaze are not subjected to Sonaze because the emeralds are a literary device.
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>>566333216
That's Sally, I think?
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Shadamy can't work because of the whole "Amy's actual personality" thing
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Maria is Maria
Wife is wife
it's not hard. now shut the fuck up, autist
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Tails!
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>>566333639
>For me it's because I can sympathize with Sonic and Blaze. The point of Sonic and Blaze isn't the mysticism itself; even though there's an explicit force, the emeralds, the metaphysics are allegorical for their relationship.
I really don't see how this is any different.
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>>566333638
>Even Amy gets talked about outside of ships
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>>566333654
Only one hero can save us all
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>>566333719
>gonna kill this bitch if she farts in my direction again
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>>566332271
Silver makes Blaze boring and Blaze makes Silver look infantile.
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Would you consider Amy's behavior towards Sonic to be sexual harassment?
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>>566332135
Great, first thing to prove all of this is to stfu for 2 seconds about Silver, can you fags do that?
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>>566333473
Okay I laughed
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Sonic fans.
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shadamyfags are the only people on this earth who willfully incur the wrath of sonamyfags
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>>566333842
Blaze is inherently boring with anyone though?
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>>566333842
>Silver makes Blaze boring and Blaze makes Silver look infantile.
Blaze doesn't need help being boring tbf.
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>>566334020
what?
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>>566333858
That's what her haters said about her in the 2000s and 2010s and Sonic Team stupidly listened to them
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>>566333473
As much as I dislike what Heroes did, I can't ignore that it tried to have multiple playable characters and character interactions on a scale the other games struggle to compete with
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>>566333638
I'd argue that Sonic and Amy aren't about shipping perse, but Silver and Blaze is about shipping. Like the point of Silver and Blaze is the romance, because it's a romantic tragedy. The point of Sonic and Amy being a coupe is not the romance, they are character traits.

Kinda follow-up to this >>566333639. Silver and Blaze as a couple is contingent on external contrivances to make their romance work, whereas Sonic and Amy have implicit reasons for their romance to work.

I feel the same way about Shadouge and Knuxouge respectively. The point of Shadouge is the tragedy of Shadow and Maria. Rouge is a simp for someone who can't/ won't move on.
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>>566334058
Sonamy is canon but will never go anywhere. It is also, the worst ship. Amy X Anyone is the worst ship tbqh.
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>>566334058
those retards will get mad at anything unprovoked. they still go after toonsite to this day
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>>566333858
>>566334157
Honestly the worst of it was Heroes, when pretty much everyone was an exaggerated version of themselves for a silly jaunt of a game. She was weird in 06, but not a freak, and in Unleashed she was clingy, but tame.
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>>566333858
The only game I would say Amy was actually bad about it in were Battle and Rush, and no one played Battle. People just bring it up to win arguments online when trying to dunk on her.
Even in Rush though, Amy has a lot of redeeming qualities.

I don't know why Nishiyama hated Amy so much desu.
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>>566334253
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Who's tongues?
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>>566332871
The amount of people who think core personality traits (especially traits induced by trauma of some sort) just disappear after a character "learns their lesson" or "moves on" is scary. These people always want dumb "realistic" characterizations, but to them that means removing all flaws except for the harmless cute ones that make them vulnerable. I shouldn't have to point out that that's not how it works, if you're above the age of 7 you should be able to understand that some trauma never goes away. This includes Blaze's autism traits. Abrasiveness, insecurity, bad social skills. Traits that actively make some characters unlikeable or difficult to get along with. It's not always cute and feel-good.
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>>566334020
Oh, the backspine is different.
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>>566334143
Can you spot the edit?
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Never seen a Sonallyfag fight a Sonazefag
Never seen a Sonallyfag fight a Shadallyfag
Never seen a Sonallyfag fight a Sonadowfag
Once or twice seen a Sonallyfag fight a Sallicolefag

I've seen Sonamyfags fight every opposing ship every time they show up. It's like they NEED everyone else to agree.
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>>566334263
>It will never go anywhere
You're seriously saying that despite knowing Year of Amy 2027 is coming?
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>>566333719
Maria is shadow's wife. You just want shadria but if they were the same species (boring) and had no connection.
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>>566334586
been there and saw it. can confirm.
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>>566333260
yet why does only silver get schizo comments about only being blaze's boyfriend (assuming said people aren't dishonest enough to cling to the sibling coded or ''06 isnt canon'' copes i dont even disagree about denying silvaze being a cope) when if we're being honest, every hedgehog is about shipping?

silver was most likely going to have further expansion and probably some mindfucky origin lore like shadow got in 05 but obiously 06 flopped and they didn't give him anything besides being racing spinoff fodder because he's supposed to be ''mysterious'' until he gets his own game. even if it was going to include silvaze or shipping in some way, you can't deny that he was going to get some kind of mainline game appearence about his origin or backstory. i am potentialfagging yes, but all evidence points to this being what was supposed to happen.
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I've came to a realisation that Blazefags will try everything to usurp Silverfags from their enjoyments and fun because that's the only thing that can make them feel better about their fandom, fuck all of them i'm going to enjoy Silver lantern in these few days and they can suck my left nut.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=65tzWtWIvC8 - Sonic Weekly - LIZA SINGER Returns!
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>>566334253
>I'd argue that Sonic and Amy aren't about shipping perse,
>The point of Sonic and Amy being a coupe is not the romance, they are character traits.
I don't even disagree. In fact its something I myself say a lot. That said however, Amy was made with the expectation that people will ship her with Sonic. This is not debatable.
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>>566329412
how many male characters can wear a dress and still look cool? Not many, that's how cool Silver is
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>>566333776
With Silvaze the whole star-crossed lovers dynamic is contrivance that insists upon itself. The conceit that they are forced to be apart has no lore to support it and it's taken for granted there's some cosmic law they're subjected to. But it doesn't even make sense in 06. Like why did Blaze even have to be sacrificed at all? Why did she even go home? Why did she loser her memories? It's not based on anything, it's just some shit that happened for its own sake because those are the natural laws that got imported from the tanabata myth.
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>>566334586
You weren't there back in the day. Sonallyfags bullied Sonamyfags all the time. I remember once getting banned from forums just for saying Sally doens't need to be in the games, getting called a Sonamyfag and then nuked from orbit.
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Shadamy is Shadria except if Shadow and Maria didn't really care about each other and loved a completely unrelated character
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>>566334514
You can blame Whisper for this mindset since before her Trauma she was LITERALLY a different person
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>>566334253
ehh, sonamy and even arguably shadria are much more blatantly or explicitly romantic than silvaze who have mostly friendly dialogue. i get what you mean but i think its moreso caused by being racing spinoff fodder than shipping in itself even if silver is the closest thing to being blazes bf.
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>>566334857
It's rather simple meta wise, Blaze needs to be in mainline and have more reasons to show up, without that she's as good as Sally.
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>>566334753
NGL Silver being a Green Lantern fucks. It just works with his character very well.
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>>566334586
But you've seen Sonallyfags fight sonamyfags?
>"Sonamyfags shot first."
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>>566334586
Why would I want to fight Shadallyfag, that's like fighting Bugs Bunny?
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>>566334586
Did it ever occur to you that Sonamy is the most popular ship?
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>>566335049
Right, and Blazefags, rather than acknowledge the limits of Blaze's backstory making her impossible to use being the reason why she was used so poorly in 06, instead hate on Silver and 06's writers instead.
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>>566334753
That's the way Silverbro, don't let these cucks get to you
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A metalfag went over to /co/ the other day to ask why Fairy GodParents nerds are arguing about shipping and they became furious with him, called him a rival shipper, started showing up here and have been aggressively shitting on anything Sonic related for a week because they think Sonic fans are Dixieshippers or trixieshippers
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>>566334735
Sonic Awakening was probably going to be about Silvaze and they just followed it up in Sonic Colors DS instead. I just don't see a direction for Silver that doesn't involve Iblis and Blaze, because that's whay he was in his debut, and dealing with the legacy of that is what he's been since.

I also don't think Sonic and Amy are about romance >>566334253.
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>>566334514
Negative traits are seen as a hindrance in a children's franchise where the primary goal in a story is to become a healthy individual. If you're traumatized, you need to find help. If you're an asshole, you need to become nicer. If you're friendless, you need to go out and find some friends, and so on
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>>566334514
This reminds me of the people that insist Eggman was gonna stop being a villain at the end of SA2 just because he worked with everyone to stop the ARK crash.
It's so dumb.
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>>566334479
Mine and Amy's.
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>>566334283
>Honestly the worst of it was Heroes
No, Sonic Heroes is the peak of Amy's character in the best possible way, and anything that fails to reach that level afterwards is an insult to all her character growth.
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>>566334514
I think if you're shipping Shadaria you are retarded and you can't accept that they're siblings
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>>566335410
PaulandAmy...
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>>566334575
Yeah that right is worse
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Sonamy and Shadria are both meh. This is kino.
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>>566334753
Based silverbro. Don't be like this silverchud over here >>566331916 that let the purple cat live rent free
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>>566335448
You know what, I respect that you appreciate her characterization in Heroes so I'll rephrase it:
Amy was never more violently obsessed than she was in Heroes.
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>>566335374
>Sonic Awakening was probably going to be about Silvaze
Why do you mentally ill shippers just assume stuff like thid smugly with 0 information?
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/sthg/ might be good, but have you ever had Lego Bionicle?
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>>566335221
>impossible
Blaze is no more difficult to use than Knuckles. Sonic Team just wanted a tragic romance for their new hedgehog because they're rubes who chased the next-gen meme and wanted their game to be serious and mature and they chose the princess they just made for a tanabata analog.
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>>566335780
It's the best ship ever
>picrel, it's their child
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>>566335923
>/sthg/ might be good,
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>>566335895
I just ignore it when I see it now. it's tiring.
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>>566335923
Just once. It was alright. Blue piraka with a little gun.
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>>566335895
Because Silver's voice actor did work for Awakening and the next time we see Silver and Blaze together in Sonic DS it's a follow-up to 06. It's not a massive leap to assume whatever Silver would be doing would be about him and Blaze.
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>>566335986
>Blaze is no more difficult to use than Knuckles
Knuckles IS hard to use.
2. She is WAY harder to use than Knuckles. She has Knuckles problems but worse on top of other issues. Knuckles was also used like shit in 06.
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>>566336074
>anon doesn't know about sex dungeons
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>Wife and son
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>>566336236
>It's not a massive leap
Lmao. Sister, the only info you have for this is that you're a shipper. Nobody has any idea what Sonic Awakening was going to be about.
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Sonic Team doesn't *really* want Shadow to have anything to do with Sonic or the ARK or Maria or Black Doom or Team Dark or being the Ultimate Lifeform. They're just following the status quo because its profitable. Soon Shadow will get his time to shine...
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>>566336647
Shadow should just be Sonic that plays slightly more aggressively in side content.
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>>566336531
you're right sonic team hates silver and blaze's relationship and would never willingly address it in another game unless they were forced to because what they really want is silver fighting surge and sage and the deadly six in the future they just haven't gotten a chance to show it yet
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This fanbase is autistic. Which is why they all hate Sonic but also want their pet character to be just like Sonic all the time. Psychoanalytically, this is how you know Sonic is Him.
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>>566335374
again shadow is also about shadria but people still eat up any other narrative feat he gets cuz it works.

amy was %100 created with the expectation that people would ship her with sonic. you are making the argument that it is more organic, not that it is not about romance. sonic didn't need a love interest character if this franchise but they wanted something romantic so they created amy.
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>>566336914
>again shadow is also about shadria
lolno.
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>>566336894
Nobody hates Sonic you disingenuous faggot.
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Sonic Team is doing everything they can to seperate Silver and Blaze. Just two more decades. Trust the plan.
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>>566335750
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>>566336647
>Sonic Team doesn't *really* want Shadow to have anything to do with Sonic or the ARK or Maria or Black Doom or Team Dark or being the Ultimate Lifeform.

How do you figure?
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>>566336986
Archiefags hate Sonic
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Sonic Team is doing everything they can to seperate Shadow and Maria. Just two more decades. Trust the plan.
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>>566337031
Gay
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>>566336967
Maria is literally his purpose you dumb nigger.
>>566337105
No, they don't. They have their own version of Sonic and want him to be different. That isn't hating a character you dumb nigger.
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>>566337031
Masculine
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>>566337162
what a weird thing to say
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>>566336986
>Shadowfag telling on themselves
All people ever do is complain about Sonic being the main character and a Gary Stu" and wanting to knock him down a peg to pull their pet character up. And one of the main ways they do this is by trying to emphasize how Sonic like or how much of a Sonic analog they are.
It's in the literature lol.
Sonic sets the limit everyone else abides by while not being subject to it himself.
He is HIM.
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>>566337168
>Maria is literally his purpose you dumb nigger.
Yeah but not for shipping purposes dumb fat retarded whale.
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>>566337168
>No, they don't.
Nta, bur they literally don't enjoy the franchise outside Archie.
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>>566337073
I'm making fun of potentialfags by saying something absurd about another character.

>>566336914
No I'm saying Sonic and Amy are not about the romance in and of itself.

Super Mario Bros. is not a love story and Peach is not a shipping character. She's the princess who gets kidnapped by a dragon. The point of Shadow and Maria *is* the relationship with Maria. You can't make (or they don't want to make) a story with Maria that isn't about their relationship itself.
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>>566337162
>>566337260
These two descriptions are not mutually exclusive.
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>>566337375
Oh, you're straight. Carry on
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>>566337168
>That isn't hating a character
Archiefags will openly tell you they hate the versions of the characters from the games. They hate Sonic.
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>>566337168
Archiefags don't like the characters from the games
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>>566337502
Nta but
>they literally don't enjoy the franchise outside of (insert thing here)
applies to a lot of fans
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Nta but you suck
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>>566337162
>>566337520
Did you know in Japan, buff muscular guys are a gay stereotype?
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This fandom cannot seperate romantic intent and romanticism from shipping because they see shipping as this thing that the fandom does.
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I do not want to meet the "real sonic fans" who like absolutely everything that Sonic Team has put out, ever
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>>566337510
>The point of Shadow and Maria *is* the relationship with Maria.
Eh, not really. It's more that Maria was made as a supplement to Shadow's character to give him a reason to be sympathetic.

Shadow was made because they wanted a Dark rival doppleganger for Sonic to beef with.
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Archiefags: We don't hate Sonic
Archiefags: Ugh why does Sonic have to be free like the wind, I hate that crap
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Nta but sonic is a fractured mess
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>>566337979
Because it is. This isn't a romance series. It really isn't a major part of the franchise.
Now begone, shiptard.
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ok last one
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If I met you I'd slap you, kiss your mouth, piss on your belly and then I'd pay for your dinner
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archiefags be like why does superman need to be about justice and flying
why does spiderman need great power and responsibility
why does goku need to fight
why does luffy need to be a pirate and hunt for the one piece
why can't they all just date girls and have teen drama
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>>566338012
I am going to disagree with you there and say that Sonic Team disappeared up their own assholes after Adventure and forgot how to make good mascot characters and made actual characters instead and that fundemental tension broke the modern Sonic brand permanently.
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why doesnt sonic take therapy and go to estrogen
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>>566338175
Buttom text
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>>566338385
Because he's not Metal Sonic>>566332804
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>>566338373
I dunno anon. it sounds more like a (You) problem. Being honest right now.
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>Metal Sonic becomes organic
>turns into a female hedgehog because the base gene of all nature is female
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>>566338386
you don't like watermarks?
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>>566338731
I couldn't think of a meme for it
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>>566338593
He's...
going his own way...
Just...
like a black-eyed stingray...
He's born and raised with a body which screams "come on!"
Like a bitter homely kind of people that's just too much for the heart of the future...
He's out to get you, gonna make you shout...
He wanna touch, he wanna scan you out...
You can run all you want but know, you're gonna pay...
He's put together the wrong way...
The wrong way...
He's put together the wrong way...
The wrong way...

https://youtu.be/9bJ03LvKIYo?
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>>566335512
>I think if you're shipping Shadaria you are retarded and you can't accept that they're siblings
The guy who created Shadow, created Maria, wrote SA2, wrote Heroes, and wrote '06 called it "the story of Shadaria". You got baited into shipping something non-canon and now you're mad at the reminder you misinterpreted a relationship that even 8 year olds understand. That's always the case with Shadaria haters. You attempt to perform emotional euthanasia on canon because facing Maria means facing that Shadow's devotion is eternal and out of reach for your waifu. Some bonds aren't meant to be "healed" or "replaced" by the next pussy on legs. Your seethe at his loyalty exposes the fact that the closest thing you've had to a Maria in your life is a folder full of cartoon animal .jpegs so you cope by insisting that Shadow should "grow" by becoming as rootless as you are.
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>>566338559
That dichotomy is the reason why the Classic/ Modern divide even exists and the reason why Sonic Team can't seem to find a consistent player base while Mario never suffers this problem.
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Fuck off krack
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Boring
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Fuck on krack
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Based Krack
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>>566338170
dumber than krack
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>>566337826
i think you made krack go off on this guy in the replies
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>No more Shitria after this goes up your asshole
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Sonic x Manic gay incest
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>>566337868
Nah. The other fans can enjoy other things the franchise has to offer. Fans of Archie explicitly make it clear they only like Sonic from Archie.
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>>566339267
is there a collection of these? i want what they have.
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the fanservice we need in the comics
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You think you're a sane person until you hear a comic fan try to describe your favorite character and they just say some made up bullshit that was never in the games
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>>566338373
The only real mascot characters are Sonic & Amy. Characters like Tails can't be a "mascot" character for the same reason trying to make someone like Spider-Man into a mascot means destroying the very foundation of why Spider-Man is insanely popular to begin with.
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I think you guys need a reality check. If you were able to convince Sonic Team to make Shadow forget Maria, you would not get Shadouge, and you would not get Shadamy. You would get Sonadow. They literally put a gay flag gradient behind the two of them in IDW. Maria is the only thing keeping American staff from just making Shadow into a faggot to please people who like the most popular ship in the fandom.
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>>566338373
>Sonic Team disappeared up their own assholes after Adventure
*with Adventure
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>>566339267
Duofag spent a year generating images of Sally raping Shadow specifically to anger Krack
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>>566339716
Krack is still here posting shadria and shadallyposting is dead. Major L
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>>566339034
>That dichotomy is the reason why the Classic/ Modern divide even exists
Nah, that's down to the fact SoA and SoJ were at odds during the 90s.
> the reason why Sonic Team can't seem to find a consistent player base while Mario never suffers this problem.
Sonic never could or would the way Mario can and does because Mario is mickeymousefied slop and Sonic has substance. His core concept is also simply something that makes him less universally marketable than Mario.
I'm tired of 90s console boomers still living in the past and thinking Sonic's entire being is defined by sweaty losers needing to be able to brag about how their corporate mascot sells more than other people's. its so cringe.
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>>566337868
If someone said they only like live action death note I would conclude they don't like death note
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>>566339462
Sparky....
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>>566337826
>Admits that Archie Shadow is a huge fucking loser.
Sonic's equal?
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>>566340045
Don't "Sparky...." me.
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>>566339706
A fair take desu

Sometimes it feels like Sonic Team was always on this trajectory because they have no idea what they're doing and are conflating quality with maturity. That Frontiers interview where they're like "we wanted to expand our audience with a melancholic story that wouldn't be expected of Sonic" really betrayed a lack of understanding of why the Dark Age games were poorly received. Like was that not "melancholic"? Maybe this is some cultural misunderstanding here.
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duofag failed to stop krack
duofag failed to stop the booru
duofag failed to stop ocposting
duofag failed to stop the whiteboards
duofag failed to btfo drawfags with ai
duofag failed to make sonurge popular
duofag failed to make shadally popular
what has duofag succeeded at?
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>>566340170
He's/sthg/'s certified jobber.
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>>566340113
Then be less obvious.
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>>566339802
>Sonic has substance
Most Sonic stories are slop you could easily substitude with any mascot character, including Mickey Mouse. Just look at Kingdom Hearts.
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>>566340508
stop trying to look for me in the first place
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>>566340527
>Most Sonic stories are slop you could easily substitude with any mascot character
The racing ones maybe. And even then not the Riders games.
> including Mickey Mouse. Just look at Kingdom Hearts.
You're just yapping now.
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>>566339716
Is now a good time to admit that I was saving every semi-decent picture he created to make me mad? Mine now.
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i thought shadally scribbles were funny deshu....
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>>566340572
I haven't looked for you in centuries. You just keep doing it.
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>>566340826
I'm not doing anything, leave me the heck alone
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Is Tangle supposed to be female Sonic or Amy's replacement?
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>>566340987
That's the same thing.
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>>566340170
>>566340397
Uh oh krack melty
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>>566340170
The oc tumblr was removed from the op
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>>566341412
>shadaria
cringe
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>>566340681
You could make Mario Frontiers or Mickey Frontiers and change literally nothing.
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>>566341412
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Will one of them just win this damn feud and get it over with
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a gun is put to your head you need to fuck one of these two characters to live wwyd
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>>566341412
I didn't understand Blaze at first, but Silver is forcing her body to stay alive through painful medicines right?
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>>566341809
oh no I guess I have to fuck cream ah oh no haha
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"Muh fortune cards!" - Nu-Amy
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>>566341830
>silver killed blaze but keeps her alive through shipping
how meta
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It's so painful trying to find a good fanfic with Blaze to read. Women only care about gay stories and Sonamy it seems
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>>566340987
Tangle is supposed to be Tangle the Audience Surrogate/Sticks replacement; until Belle showed up, her job was to react to Sonic's cool friends and give them a reason to explain themselves.
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>>566342404
Cream deserves the same hate Marine got
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>>566342404
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Mickey Frontiers with Peg-Leg Pete stuck in uh like CanvasSpace and he manifests a toon daughter, Sketch, whose like an outline of a toon with no color and she has to learn to be a real toon by watching Mickey save his friends

and they have to fight uh The Eraser or maybe some being made of The Dip from Who Framed Foger Rabbit that destroyed another animation studio

and at the end Peg-Leg Pete teams up with Mickey and friends and Peg-Leg Pete is softened up by the end

and Goofy says he'll try to be smarter and Daffy says he'll try to control his temper and Minnie say she will continue to be the girl character

that will be $60, thank you
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Shitver does nothing but drag down blaze. get rid of shitver.
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>>566342570
Wish fulfilled: He joins Green lantern corps while her flat ass teams up with Charmy.
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>>566341748
No you couldn't, lol.
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>>566342628
I'm noticing half or more of the newer characters are struggling to take off in both IDW and the games. Anyone got an idea why?
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How would Silver fair against the Titans and The End?
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>>566342564
> you change nothing!
>changes everything
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I saw that
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>>566343571
IDW is shit and the character designs suck and there is nothing compelling about slop like Soliel. They focus more on virtue signaling and posting awful takes than making a good comic.
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>>566342778
cute
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>>566343817
>the character designs suck
That's the sole reason why IDW is still alive.
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>>566343391
>"Maria, this is what you wanted, right?"
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>>566344017
The character designs are awful youre just a coomer.
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>>566342778
The franchise needs more Sonamy
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>>566343571
Because no one reads IDW.
>what about the games.
Dream team is stuck on Apple, Barry and buddy are avatars that don't do anything.
Infinite and Sage actually do get a lot of art and love though.
I sometimes forget Trip exists. She's kind of a boring character.
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>>566343921
This one is more dynamic.
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>>566343618
It's literally the same shit just tweaked to fit the setting of toons instead of magitech.

>>566343403
Just did. That's how mascot characters work. The only difference is the *kind* of stories.
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why are westfags like this
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>>566334753
>Silverfags showing character growth
Shocking, but I'm pleased to see it. Maybe I should bully you less.
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>>566344218
>It's literally the same shit just tweaked to fit the setting of toons instead of magitech.
So you changed everything.
By your logic, every game is the same thing as eachother, just tweaked to fit the setting of the given series.
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>>566336257
>Knuckles IS hard to use.
Not really. Any appearance for either of them can boil down to "The Emeralds lead me here" or "Tails recruited me" or "I came over to visit"
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>>566343571
Half of them are ugly or are on media that is hard to access. No one wants to look at Dodonpa let alone remember him like Ariem or Trip who are marginally more popular
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>>566343571
Tbh I feel attacked by new Sonic characters now, I barely get to chew on them, I barely even get to see them. It's like "oh great another asshole I have to care about" and theh they never show up and when they do they don't even do anything.

I think I'm just fatigued by the attention economy.
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>>566344589
"There is a difference between knowing how to play a card and knowing how to use a card."
-Kaiser Ryo
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>>566344668
How does that apply?
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>>566344451
That's all flavor. You couldn't really make Halo into Doom, neither are open-ended enough. Like there's rules and expectations and structure that don't really exist in Mario, Sonic, or Mickey.

Like you can't put John 117 into Arabian Nights, but you could easily do it with Mario or Mickey.
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>>566344196
I think I actually prefer the first one. Feels more believable for the characters imo.

>>566344835
All you did was write them into the story. Anyone can do that. Knowing how to use a character is doing it in a way that feels compelling, or at the very least doesn't feel contrived.
Knuckles can get away with sometimes just showing up because he doesn't really have anything forcing him to do his job, and the world his island exists in is still his business.
Blaze on the other hand feels really silly just being on Tails plain with Tails being like "oh I just went over to Blaze's dimension to pick her up". Especially since she has royal duties and junk.
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>>566344914
>You couldn't really make Halo into Doom
That would actually be very easy. The Flood is already basically the hordes of hell.
>Like there's rules and expectations and structure that don't really exist in Mario, Sonic, or Mickey.
People would be looking at the game weird seeing mickey running though loops and dashing into robots and turning SuperSaiyan to fight EVAs.
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>>566343571
i can never remember the name of the sheep/ram lady but i think everyone shipped her with knuckles?
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Fucking metally ill green rat

https://x.com/ProjectXPurity/status/2052905947786366993
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>>566345269
Sonic fucks this
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>>566344196
Is this AI generated, because I don't recall Natalie what's-er-name drawing anything like this
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>>566342137
>>566342778
Generate Amy and Tangle or Amy and Surge platonically of course
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>>566345386
Yeh, I finished training this on Anima.
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Woe!
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Fan kids are retarded

[Spoiler]Unless it's mine[/spoiler]
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>>566345932
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>>566345932
Bro got intelligencemogged
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>>566345473
>spats on normal Amy outfit
Into the trash it goes.
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>>566345803
Cute N Canon!
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>>566343508
he just takes it
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>>566345737
Cute dumb cold monke, where's your jacket
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>>566343571
too many fucking characters
just focus on a core 3 or 4 and that's it no more
>>566343995
um
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>>566346004
[Spoiler]KEK[/spoiler]
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>>566345803
>>566345959
It's all disgusting Except Vanilla x Vector
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>>566345932
Who's your kid
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>>566346346
Eggnilla mogs Vectnilla
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>>566345852
What do you want?
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I think it's interesting that Classic Sonic doesn't smile in most of these Oshima's sketches. Even the one that was chosen was edited to have a smile.
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SilverxElise
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<3
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Amy Aizo
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>>566346958
is that fucking zilla
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>>566346765
>Sonic's sloppy seconds again
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>>566346678
Oshimanic seemed more serious than Nakanic.
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Is anyone else range blocked? I think someone is fucking with VPNs again
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>>566347276
Rare to see boom girls
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>>566346678
>>566347483
*Ohshima
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>>566347561
That’s because Boom was an ugly and drab CGI show.
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>>566347215
Fun Fact! Sonic never met Elise
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>>566346160
Not this one dougebag
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>>566347276
What animal is she supposed to be?
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>>566348058
They met at the very end of 06 in the bookend cutscene. Yes that counts because it takes place after the reset.
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>>566346549
I wanna join the Woergy
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>>566348134
(lady)Goat
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>>566345852
>>566346549
>>566346958
>>566347276
>>566348342
Fuck off Woefag
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>>566348307
They didn't meet in that scene though.
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>>566348507
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>>566348450
You tagged an actual Sega character
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>>566348450
You’re gay
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>>566348450
You’re dumb and gay
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>>566348649
but what about silver :(
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>>566348952
obsessed
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Sonic characters for this feel?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UwzrqAUw9JM
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>>566348058
she felt his brap
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If there's anything more generic or unoriginal than modern Sonic, it's capeshit so I'm not even surprised they're doing fanfic tier crossovers now
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>>566349761
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>>566322393
"Light Sonic" doesn't work because Sonic is already as heroic as it's possible to be.
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>>566348685
>literal who from a baby cartoon
Sorry I guess

>>566348785
>>566348892
I think you replied to the wrong posts
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>>566322393
Hit the nail on the head
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>>566350183
You are in a Sonic general
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>>566350357
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>>566350149
>"I'm no hero. I'm just a guy that loves adventure."
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:)
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>>566350856
Being humble =/= not being heroic
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>>566350557
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>>566350149
Exactly. Light Sonic works as well as an idea as Light Sora, Light Superman, or Light Spider-Man
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I hate women.
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>>566351095
Flynn...
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What can a character do to show they are more "heroic" than the character that does everything? The only answer is sacrificing yourself for the greater good
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>>566351095
…but love dykes
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>>566351095
I hate everyone.
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>>566351732
including cream!?!
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>>566350923
I don't think it's Sonic being humble. I genuinely think he doesn't see anything he does as heroic.
He's just doing his thing.

>>566351569
Prioritize saving innocent people, some kind of sacrifice, seeing and acknowledging the responsibility inherent to being a hero and grappling with all that comes with it.
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I love everyone
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I love everything
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>>566351704
Hell yeah!!
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>>566351890
>>566351943
based everythingfags
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>>566350993
sonic is closer to superman than the others as he's just a good guy doing good things and has all the answers or at least knows how to get them. he lacks the appeal of something like spiderman who wrestles with moralties and heroics that may be more appealing to others. sonic as a franchise struggles with anything that isn't a superman type plot
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>>566351890
>>566351943
Even Woefag?
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>>566352281
What if he met Kit?
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>>566352693
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>>566352871
Ah so you want to kill them too, that’s great.
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>>566352281
The show made no sense so who cares
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>>566350856
That sentence is precisely why he can't be surpassed as a hero, if Sonic does whatever he wants, and Sonic also has a heart of gold, then all Sonic wants to do is what is the right thing to do, he's such a good person that being a hero is effortless, so he doesn't place any importance on the role.

The only time it was ever implied that anyone could surpass Sonic in heroics was with the pure hero path in ShTH, but not only does Sonic do everything right as though it's obvious, the existence of the the dark mission for Final Haunt means that even if you do the hero mission, Shadow, at his most heroic, could only barely stop himself from siding with the enemy, purely to oppose Sonic.
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>>566350856
sonic never said this, in fact he said "we're sonic heroes" and in archie he calls himself a hero all the time
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I understand now why Dark Sonic is ooc
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>>566353415
>sonic never said this, in fact he said "we're sonic heroes"
Yeah!
>and in archie
SYFM
STFUYC
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>>566327101
Cringe. Just admit you’re a faggot.
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>>566354185
Why is Sally and Rouge fat?
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>>566354293
creator has a fetish
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Marine
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>>566354390
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>>566351095
Same, brother.
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>>566354634
Cute retard.
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>>566355306
ooc
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>>566355641
why did sonic team make this edgy rat thing romantically desirable? what is their endgame??
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Just spent 2 hours straight vomiting a bunch of times and choking on it and then i passed out. Sonic characters for this feel?
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>>566355891
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Just spent 2 Sonics straight Sonicking a bunch of Sonics and Sonicking on it and then I Sonicked out help me
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>>566355891
Didn’t you already do that yesterday?
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>>566356290
>>566356290
>>566356290
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>>566345017
Okay, give me a defined story and I'll write them with more thought put into it.
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