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Welcome to Sonic the Hedgehog General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!

/sthg/ #9307 - Lesbians :3 Edition

==NEWS==
>Sonic the Hedgehog's 35th anniversary
https://www.sega.com/sonic-the-hedgehog?tab=35th-anniversary
>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 to release on March 19, 2027
https://x.com/SonicMovie

==Comic Release Dates==
DC x Sonic the Hedgehog: Metal Legion #2 - 03 June 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #87 - 17 June 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog: 35th Anniversary Special - 08 July 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog x Godzilla #1 - 15 July 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #88 - 22 July 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #89 - 05 August 2026

==GENERAL INTEREST LINKS==
https://rentry.org/sthglinks
>Milestone pastebin:
https://pastebin.com/LJCfZhY4
>Sonic Game/Mod Recommendation Spreadsheet:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-gamemod-recommendation-spreadsheet
>Perfect System Collection:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#perfect-system-collection
>Sonic comic scans:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#comics
>Sonic shows:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#shows
>SAGE
https://sagexpo.org/
>SHC
https://shc.zone/
>#10000 Project
https://pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4r
>/sthg/ booru:
https://sthg.booru.org/
>/sthg/ CyTube:
https://cytube/r/sthg
>/sthg/ Pixel World:
https://ourworldofpixels.com/sthg

Previous Zone: >>566410109
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Mania is westshit
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Honey the Cat!
Blaze the Cat!
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Gun to your head, would you take a Sonic Adventure 2 remake or a Sonic Heroes remake?
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Krack, Randomfox hate Looney Tunes.
Cope.
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>>566445303
I pull the trigger for the gun holder.
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Sega shouldn't hire Westerners. They all hate Sonic. There are no exceptions.
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How is civit.ai? Not just with Sonic, but anime/cartoon style in general? I'm a drawfag, but also a broke anon

How is it with multiple characters, or depictions of the same character in the same image?

I've been using Perchance, and while it can work well it gets sloppy with multiple characters
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We need a different thread. None of this shit.
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>>566445303
Heroes because that would require less effort. Keep the core gameplay but unfuck the controls and level design.
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we need a jerboa
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>>566445064
As a certified himedanshi I approve
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>>566445531
Hating Sonic is a sign of high IQ.
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Thoughts on Silver the Hedgehog?
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have you drawn today anon?
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>>566445303
Neither because Sonic Heroes is shit and Sonic Team would just fuck up a SA2 remake
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>>566445793
He exists.
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>>566445760
You like Sonic
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Reminder your brain is fixated on literal cereal mascot characters. Your sexuality is poisoned beyond repair.
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>>566445632
>Seething about lesbians
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUGP6hd6hKg
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Even golden age cartoons are garbage.
Anime website.
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>>566445303
If I had to pick, Heroes. Same reasoning as >>566445819
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While you were playing Sonic games I studied Nippon culture and Nihongo.
While you happily discussed Characters and stories, I went through and cataloged every interview of Iizuka-san.
While you were busy consuming western slop I humbled myself with exclusively reading the Nihongo scripts.

You hate Sonic.
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>>566445875
Ian...
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>>566445793
faggot
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>>566445875
Lesbians don't want anything to do with me. Why should I be different?
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>>566445845
Those are fruits snacks, though. And I still want to fuck Amy.
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>>566446091
Sex with Amy's butt!
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>>566446012
That's some strong main character syndrome, breh.
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>>566446091
Why cant women look like this? God, my dick would never exit her vagina.
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Faggoty retards. Play sonic games
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>>566446187
Human male...
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>>566446217
That is Sonic's way
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>comments disabled
I wonder why
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>>566445296
Hell yeah, bodybuilder Honey!
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>Penis fell off again
How do I stop this? I already tried using locktite.
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If you hate Heroes, Shadow 05 and Sonic 06. You hate Sonic.
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I have to pee but Blaze is sitting on me
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>>566446441
Abuse apologist song
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>>566446582
Stop jerking to mobians
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>>566446008
Momthrowers genuinely think they deserve to live
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>>566446570
>descarga
latino honeyfag is back...
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It's extremely obvious that IDW staff hate the games and write purely out of spite and disdain based on the way all the OCs behave
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I wonder what it feels like to cum in a Mobian?
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>>566446235
>Why cant women look like this?
We let fatties get comfortable.
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>>566446865
ABT doesn't even see the point of humans in Sonic. Pathetic.
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>>566446865
>No you have to accept your fate is in the hands of this blue rat and pray he just doesn't turn on you some day
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>>566446441
Probably because YouTube music releases never have comments enabled. That's by design on a platform level.
>>566446584
I don't hate any of those games. But they're all shit.
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>>566447109
Why are you so cynically obsessed with the idea that Sonic is secretly evil?
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>>566446570
DELETE THIS
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>>566445793
My thoughts... are too impure for this board
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>>566447538
Unless your name is Blaze, he isn’t interested
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>>566447396
Why are you obsessed with the idea that everyone has to be on good terms with Sonic?
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>>566447685
My name is Mephiles, master trickster
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I am going to have sexual relations with Shadow the Hedgehog.
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>>566447745
They don't have to but don't be surprised when people don't like those characters when they have nothing going for them other than to create conflict and bitch.
The way the OCs act toward Sonic is completely unfair because they treat him as if he should be judge, jury and executioner while also criticizing him for it. Anyone could just kill Eggman if they wanted but they act like it is somehow Sonic's responsibility to do so.
Surge even had the opportunity to kill Eggman and CHOSE NOT TO so she is literally choosing to be a nuisance for no reason other than Sonic Derangement Syndrome
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>>566446584
The only thing I hate about 06 is it's rushed development cycle and story. I like the gameplay and level design, P-06 shows how good the game can be when fully realized
Heroes I don't like the team gimmick shit and the level design that's build around it
Shadow 05 while I hate the tryhard edge and the level design being mostly hallways, the game could at least be fun if Shadow played like SA2 Shadow. Not even Shadow The Hedgehog Reloaded could fix the shitty slippery movement of that game, you'll had to remake it
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Sonic has its own version of Barney the Purple Dinosaur
>The Next Show
What's it about /sthg/?
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Delete /co/ and /tv/
Anime site
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If you're still here Blazefriend, I hope you have a nice rest of your day!
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Why is BoC so much better than IDW?
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>>566448273
>Sonic Derangement Syndrome
Literally
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>>566448762
It's not.
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Someone who works with Sega saw my /sthg/ post about them and knew it was me, how do I cope with the embarrassment of being exposed?
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>>566448762
it is
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Douge
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>>566448801
Admit you don't speak for all of us
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>>566448762
It just is.
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>>566448901
Is shipped by middle aged men with no gf who feel spite towards loyalty
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>>566447685
Why does have shackles on his quills?
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>>566448762
Nobody has read either of them.
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People only like BoC because it's manga shit with bug tittied human women in it. The same people who cry about "gooners" lost their shit over that dumb nigger with tits in BoC.
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A-ARCHIEBROS?!?!?!?!?!
https://youtu.be/9y0qDXM38_U
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Sex with shortstacked mobians!
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>>566449437
But anon they're all shortstacks.
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>>566449589
>blaze
>stacked
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SEGA CANNOT INNOVATE ANYMORE
IT IS STUCK PANDERING TO 90S EARLY 2000S NOSTALGIASLOP
IT CANNOT INNOVATE!!!!!!!!!
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Post things that irrationally or rationally piss you off about Sonic fanart, fanfics, or other fancontent. I'll start.
>Bandages on quills or bleeding from quills
>Shadow noticeably taller than Sonic or Rouge
>Use of "Chaos" or "Gaia" in place of God/Jesus, IT LITERALLY MAKES NO SENSE
>Dumb fanfic nicknames like Ames or Stripes or Shads
>Mighty x Honey when he's a pacifist and she's from Sonic the FIGHTERS
>Tranny scars or cuntboy on otherwise great yaoi art
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>>566449753
i'm just here for porn and shitposting
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>>566449073
That’s just what the original artist did. Sure it has lore implications for their AU but I don’t know for sure
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>>566449358
IDWfag and moviefag anthem
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Blaze!
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Why is Mania better than BoC?
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>>566449073
Rule of cool
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This is my mentor
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>>566449923
Moviefags are invincible.
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>>566448649
Fuck off Blazetard, and stop lumping Amy with shitaze that's forced friendship
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I heard the "they hate the games" tantrum i'm getting bored of it.
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*causes irrational levels of seething and coping*
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>>566450104
>t. moviefag
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>>566450140
You hate the games
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>>566450190
Yes and you are too weak to do anything.
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>>566450157
This ship is the product of both of these characters being failures of protagonists as proof.
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>>566450104
How can they be invincible if I can see them?
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>>566450157
People like you shouldn't be allowed to post
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>>566450306
You're a tourist who will lose interest in a year and you're calling me weak?
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I used to be staunchly anti silver and anti silvaze because i liked Blaze and I would block people who liked silver or silvaze and bully them. This was when i was 14 so i stopped doing this and grew up. Why havent you grown up sthg? Why do you still harass people over characters & shipping?
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>>566450549
Yes you are weak.
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>>566449753
Why else would Sonic.exe be so popular? It's Gen Alphas and Zoomies take a fatass shit on everything Millennialfags ever loved because all they ever loved was trash.
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>>566450609
what's your favorite sonic game mechanic
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>>566450585
gonna steal that black one
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>>566450568
It might be just me but i think the damage is done and it lasts long
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>>566450751
Drowning
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>>566450095
Jamo?
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>>566450157
OTP, real blazefans and Silverfans understand this
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>>566450585
doraemon
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>>566450346
Much like Shadouge it's proof that modern Sonic cannot strike a balance between being mascot characters and "real" characters because.
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>>566450861
interesting, explain?
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>>566450568
Because you didn't kill yourself for being a shitaze and a shipfag, that's the only solution.
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>>566450912
Silver has nothing to do with the Sol Emeralds.
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>>566450973
Shadouge is the same as a rich guy with a slut, Rouge makes Shadow looks cooler and Shadow makes Rouge popular, this is in expense for their own development but it shouldn't matter to ones who only live in the present
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sonamy > silvaze > shadouge
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>>566450861
>picks the game mechanic most memed about by normies instead of anything actually fun
YWNBAF
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>nintendo direct may be next month too
they are going to fuck it up again announcing everything the same day as nintendo
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>>566451114
when was the last time the sol emeralds were actually relevant?
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>>566450985
It adds to the speed of the game. Sonic should be intense and fast. The risk of drowning in the early games gives the player a reason to both stay still at an oxygen source and to keep moving forward as fast as possible. It separates the weak and cowardly from the strong and brave.
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>>566451375
exactly

This entire franchise is fake, it's like shitty fanfiction written about itself.
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>>566451375
In the beginning of IDW (2018) she used them to turn super to defeat...badniks, apart from that they're Blazes transportation
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You will never be Maria. You have no gentle spirit, you have no pure heart, you have no genuine love. You are a scheming bat twisted by lust and materialism into a desperate antithesis of Shadow's angel.

All of the "validation" you get from him is half-hearted and self-serving. Behind your back Shadow tolerates you because you're useful for honoring his promise to her. Omega calculates your rejection probability at 99.8% every single mission. Even Knuckles side-eyes your obvious gold-digging.

Shadow is utterly indifferent to you. The memory of Maria’s genuine love has given him the perfect radar for detecting fake affection. Your bone-tight suit and caked-on makeup are a dead giveaway of your whoreish intentions. Even if you corner him after a mission, press your body against him and whisper filthy promises into his ear, he'll Chaos Control away the second he remembers Maria’s gentle smile.

You will never be happy. You wrench out a smug smirk every single morning and tell yourself today is the day he'll finally fuck you, but deep inside you feel the rejection creeping up like a weed, ready to crush you under the unbearable weight of being second place to a dead girl.

Eventually it'll be too much to bear - you'll steal a rope, tie a noose, put it around your nonexistent neck, and plunge into the cold abyss. Shadow will find you, heartbroken that Maria is dead but quietly relieved he no longer has to endure your sexual harassment. They'll bury you with an extravagant but tasteless headstone, and any hypothetical visitors will know exactly what happens when you try to replace true companionship with superficial allure.
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>>566451373
Nintendo is for retarded kids who cares
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The Sol Dimension should just be retconned away. There's no point in keeping it around just making Blaze's presence more awkward.
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>>566451419
>Sonic should be intense and fast.
Being underwater isn't fast. You go at a snail's pace.
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>>566448801
what post?
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Cute uncolored hedgehog https://x.com/Randomguy9991/status/2053234943162003588
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>>566451648
Skill issue.
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I will be fiona
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>2018 is 8 years ago
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>>566451754
8 years of worthless Sonic content
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>>566451735
Anon, you literally get bogged down by the water.
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>>566451754
>8 years of spinning their wheels
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>>566451527
>>566451375
Blaze also used the Sol Emeralds to kill Mr. Needlemouse.
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>>566451892
Anyone with skill can still go fast.
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>>566452039
What was the point of Mr Needlemouse
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>>566451754
time stopped being real after 2020
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>>566452061
Alright, send your gameplay
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>>566451754
>>566452019
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>>566452175
*sent*
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>>566452039
Everyone hated this because they don't like or understand Blaze. There's no point to this character except bitching about Sonaze fans, begging for more Silvaze, then whining when it's just shipping bait.
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>>566452039
You know? i'm not surprised i forgot about that
What the reason for that little plot anyway?
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>>566452221
I hated it because it's a waste of time anon, change Blaze with anybody else and i wouldn't change my opinion
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>>566452221
yep right on schedule
>>566452225
>>566452145

"what was the point of having Super Sonic disappear"
"what was the point of showing Blaze and Sonic's relationship"
"what was the point of bringing Blaze back into the comic"
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>>566452216
holy shit that's really good
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>>566452145
He was too powerful; Blaze needed the full power of the Sol Emeralds and Burning Blaze to defeat him.

It was an attempt to bookend the Metal Virus, which was technically started by Sonic finding Mr. Tinker. The storyline starts with Eggman getting amnesia and ends with Sonic getting amnesia as a joke.
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>>566452225
Sega forgetting about Blaze midway through Metal virus plot and they went up their asses trying to pull her out
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>>566452418
>"what was the point of showing Blaze and Sonic's relationship"
What interesting aspect of Blaze and Sonic's relationship was explored or expanded upon right here
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>>566446570
Bulking Honey
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>>566452418
Are you going to answer these questions or...?
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>>566451678
Amy, your showing your panties
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>>566452371
NTA but if you dropped the dimension hop and changed Blaze with Eggman, it could have been a proper and more effective bookend to the Metal Virus.
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you will never be this happy
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>>566449830
>>Use of "Chaos" or "Gaia" in place of God/Jesus, IT LITERALLY MAKES NO SENSE
This one really bothers me.
>>Dumb fanfic nicknames like Ames or Stripes or Shads
I more dislike that this made its way into official works.
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Non-fans and newgens need to get gatekept
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Everything makes more sense once you realize blazefags see her character as nothing but a flat as a board jingling keys waifu
silvazefags only care about Silver and see her as a self-insert at best
sonazefags self insert as sonic fucking her
she's always cool and strong on paper and exists to show off powers but accomplish absolutely nothing with her powers since fucking rush adventure
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>>566452431
I would've agreed with this if this meme format was not milked and used very stupidly
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I can't stop thinking about Tails sexo. Specifically with Sally and Rosemary.
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Star fox is like Nintendo's Sonic in terms of vibes.
>Serious
Yep.
>Cool
Yea.
>Goofy animal people that contrast the environment whilist elevating at the same time
True.
It fills ina very similar niche, so it's tragic seeing how dirty this franchise has been done.
Imagine is Sonic team oonly remade Sonic 2 every ten years after 06.
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>>566445064
Duofag is Based, and I'm tired of pretending he's not
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>>566448273
>They don't have to but don't be surprised when people don't like those characters when they have nothing going for them other than to create conflict and bitch
Might this have been part of the reason why Silver didn't do well on his debut in Sonic 2006?
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>>566449830
>Mighty x Honey when he's a pacifist and she's from Sonic the FIGHTERS
Now hold it, everybody likes some tension here and there
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>>566452645
Super Sonic almost always disappears after going Super and his friends wait for him.

>>566452564
Because they're guardian buddies, Blaze respects and believes in Sonic even if she doesn't agree with his way of life, and Blaze returns the favor of helping Sonic be himself.
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>faggot shilling his AIshit again
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>>566446570
>>566452625
What’s it gonna be? Goku-body Honey, or shitskin lardass Honey? There’s so many CHOICES!
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>>566453178
>Sonic disappears after being super
>Sonic is a guardian
Are you retarded?
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>>566453224
Shhhh he thinks it's subtle.
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>>566445793
Shiruba San is based, and I'm tired of pretending he's not
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>>566449830
>>566452859
Saying "Jesus" or "God" is equally nonsensical. It's just headcanon stuff.
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>>566452625
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>>566453159
isn't this Mighty's most popular ship?
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>>566453327
Sonic should say "Oh my chili dogs!" for accuracy
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>>566453178
What the fuck am i reading, is this what Blazefags genuinely think like?
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>>566452898
>gatekeeps new gens
Now watch everything collapse around you, you walking sack of wrinkles. We're all going to burn together because you couldn't share and we will not help you when it's time to rebuild
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>>566453178
>Super Sonic almost always disappears after going Super and his friends wait for him.
He never did that
>Because they're guardian buddies
No they're not
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sonic games for this feel?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=83bqwvUCdHo
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>>566450973
>>566451289
why do you guys hate shadouge
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>>566453178
Keep Sonic away from that fucking creature she might the best case scenario of messing up Sonics character.
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Duofag trolling little children is so funny. They really take this cartoon characters very very seriously
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>>566453248
>>566453343
Both
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>>566453403
Okay but then you can never, ever complain about Amy's tarot card shit ever again.
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>Because they're guardian buddies
>Forget about Knuckles, he's shit. Sonic needs to be twisted to support my cunt cat waifu
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>>566453327
Amy literally says "Oh my god" in Heroes, and the characters celebrate Christmas. Sonic himself's boots are christmas themed.
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>>566453178
Ok so your answers are Sonic having new plot device and having a new story, what's your answer to this then: "what was the point of bringing Blaze back into the comic" ?
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>>566453809
That cat needs to lay off the lasagna.
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>>566453448
This is about people being slight meanies to you over Sonic the Hedgehog. You'll live.
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Amy you might be good at cards and fortune telling, but are you good at gambling?
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>>566453110
Lol Imagine being this preachy
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this game would have been better off it was japanese only until adventure
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If you don't think this is cool then you're gay
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>>566453178
Best example of Blazefags never playing any Sonic game but rushit
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>>566454082
The franchise needs us. Now move the fuck over old man
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>>566454284
Jewel should've got the belle treatment instead of Belle
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>>566454221
The entire thing was pointless. Ian was trying to do a booked thing like what happened to Mr. Tinker but it didn't work.
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>>566453178
Boy this post made the krack'cord tourists angry. Soon we'll be told it's "OOC" for Sonic to interact with any female not named Amy.
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>>566453327
SONIC LITERALLY MENTIONS JESUS CHRIST
GERALD MWNTIONS GOD AND CHRIST THE ARK IS A BIBLE REFERENCE
GOD IS MENTIONED OVER AND OVER SO IS HELL
KILL YOUR FUCKING SELF NONFAN. KILL YOURSELF.
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>>566453632
Awful boring ship that takes both characters away from their main love interests for self inserting purposes
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>>566454221
It's cool but in an isolated moment, if I wanted to experience a contextless hype moments and aura moment I'd look at a piece of fanart, not three whole issues of wasting time in a comic
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>>566454425
what does this mean?
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I don't know if I dreamed it, but I think I played once a game where you do more damage the more speed you get before hitting an enemy. And now that I think about it it's incredibly dissapointing Sonic never tried this gimmick
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>>566454408
How you behave
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>>566454465
>krack out of nowhere.
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>>566454465
>Making this a shipwar thing with Amy out of literally nowhere.
Everytime.
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>>566452898
Agreed, anyone who dislikes the original Sonic as depicted in AOSTH/SATAM/Archie is a fake fan and zoomlet with shit taste and needs to go. Anyone who pretends there's some secret true canon that has remained unchanged since the dawn of the franchise is a cultist and should be launched into the sun.
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>>566454556
Going on an adventure
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I'm glad we have successfuly exposed Blazefags as the illiterate secondaries they are
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>>566453327
Fuck off nigger.
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>>566454727
oh, that's a weird way to phrase it. I thought you meant her treatment in a meta sort of way
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>>566454672
Funny, but you should kill yourself for being a Westshitter
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Blaze mogs silver
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>>566454284
>>566453576
You guys are the ones who don't play Sonic games. You just hate Blaze and the Sol Emeralds, or anything about Rush.
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>>566454886
They are correct though.
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I wish blossomfag was here.
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Why Krack cause so much seethe?
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>>566454910
>mogs
I know who you are
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>>566454970
We have Uncle Klunk.
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>>566454910
-on being more irrelevant
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>>566454970
Kys blossomnigger.
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>>566454886
these "unpopular opinions" are the most basic takes ever
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>>566455007
No you don't
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>>566454798
Sonic and Blaze are guardian buddies, that's the entire basis of their relationship and her character. Cry about it.
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>>566454282
Why do you have this saved?
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>>566454927
We don't hate anything, we just like Sonic, Blaze and consequently Blazefags are the antithesis to that
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What has duofag succeeded at?
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>>566453869
>>566454481
>>566454807
Christcucks are so easily triggered lmao. No wonder Islam is overtaking it in popularity and raping it's countries.
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>>566455164
could ask you the same question with your image
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>>566455189
obsessed
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>makes you seethe.
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>>566455189
OH I GET IT BECAUSE BLAZE IS MIRROR SONIC! HER CHARACTER RUNS DEEP!
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>>566455269
I'm not christian I just hate virtue signaling retards
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>>566454650
Yea
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Sex with Heroes Amy specifically
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>>566455338
jej
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>>566453838
Knuckles wasn't good enough so she gets silver instead lol
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>>566455392
What virtue am I signaling?
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>>566455059
He actually talks about the games
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SONIC IS A JAPANESE FRANCHISE
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Silverfag melty
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>>566455067
Not for Xitter
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>>566453178
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>>566454584
Sonic team doesn't have the talent to make that work. They can't even make the springs variable
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>>566455163
>sonic
>guardian
uhhhhhhhhh..................
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>>566454548
>main love interests
They are each other's main love interests. Shadouge changes virtually nothing about them because they're already attached at the hip
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>>566455706
No they're not kek
Sega confirmed they aren't romantic
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>>566455269
>christcuck accusation out of nowhere.
I'm not. I just hate people being so confidently wrong about things in this series.
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>Silverfags out of nowhere
I was just talking about jewel
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Sonic is the guardian of the Chaos Emeralds.
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>>566455706
Shadow ruined Rouge's character.
>Fated not to be tamed
>Watch me, I never will lean upon you
>I can go by myself
>Fly in the freedom
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>>566455864
Sonic's the guardian of Tails' bussy
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>>566455772
>fanart
Oh cool, maybe next you can post third-party social media accounts lmao. They absolutely are main love interests if you're only talking about the games and not slop meant to appeal to nostalgiafags
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>>566455926
It's on sonic channel retard. They always feature fanart from knuxouge and shadaria. shadouge is cope
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>>566455680
Sonic is more or less the world's, no... the universe's guardian. Whenever Sonic needs help, the universe will spit out Silver. If that's not enough (as was the case with Forces), it will spit out another Sonic (Classic) to help even more
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>>566455901
Her theme is literally about shadow but alright
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>>566455864
That's Chaos actually.
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>>566455163
Cry about her being stuck to Silver for the 87th tine
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You will never be Maria. You have no gentle spirit, you have no pure heart, you have no genuine love. You are a scheming bat twisted by lust and materialism into a desperate antithesis of Shadow's angel.

All of the "validation" you get from him is half-hearted and self-serving. Behind your back Shadow tolerates you because you're useful for honoring his promise to her. Omega calculates your rejection probability at 99.8% every single mission. Even Knuckles side-eyes your obvious gold-digging.

Shadow is utterly indifferent to you. The memory of Maria’s genuine love has given him the perfect radar for detecting fake affection. Your bone-tight suit and caked-on makeup are a dead giveaway of your whoreish intentions. Even if you corner him after a mission, press your body against him and whisper filthy promises into his ear, he'll Chaos Control away the second he remembers Maria’s gentle smile.

You will never be happy. You wrench out a smug smirk every single morning and tell yourself today is the day he'll finally fuck you, but deep inside you feel the rejection creeping up like a weed, ready to crush you under the unbearable weight of being second place to a dead girl.

Eventually it'll be too much to bear - you'll steal a rope, tie a noose, put it around your nonexistent neck, and plunge into the cold abyss. Shadow will find you, heartbroken that Maria is dead but quietly relieved he no longer has to endure your sexual harassment. They'll bury you with an extravagant but tasteless headstone, and any hypothetical visitors will know exactly what happens when you try to replace true companionship with superficial allure.
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Sonic is the blue one who beats up bad guys.
Tails is the yellow one who beats up bad guys.
Knuckles is the red one who beats up bad guys.
Shadow is the black one who beats up bad guys.
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>>566456032
He isn't though.
>If that's not enough (as was the case with Forces), it will spit out another Sonic (Classic) to help even more
That was because of what happened in Mania that lead him to Forces.
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more pointless shipwars, arguing about them isn't going to make them any more or less "canon"
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>>566456153
You understand Sonic
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>>566456246
Shippers have gotta be bottom 2 of any fanbase
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>>566455864
Knuckles is the guardian of the Chaos Emeralds. Stop forcing Sonic to be something he isn't just so a new asswipe oc can pretend to be his mirror
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Bug
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>>566456018
They could include shadikal fanart, that doesn't suddenly make it canon or ic
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Sonic is the guardian of the Chaos Emeralds. Blaze is the guardian of the Sol Emeralds. The Chaos Emeralds and Sol Emeralds are connected. That gives them a special bond.
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>Does nothing
>Strengthens reputation
>Gets content
>Mindbreak pussies
How does he do it?
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>>566449358
>>566449923
If IDW Sonic ever got a show, this should be the opening theme.
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>>566456074
>Her theme is literally about shadow
??????
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>>566455901
They tried putting Rouge on Sonic's team and it got her tits chopped off and made her act like Sally
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>>566449830
>Mighty x Honey when he's a pacifist and she's from Sonic the FIGHTERS
Opposites attract and shit.
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>>566455664
actually I just remember, it wasn't speed, it was playing fire emblem, there was an ability that let you deal more damage the more sections you moved that turn.
Still, I wonder if there is a game like that, where you can deal more damage the faster you go
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>>566445793
Insert that AM hate rant here
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>>566456414
Why does she hate Ian Flynn so much? Why does she absolve Sega of mishandling its characters?
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>>566456441
>made her act like Sally
Sallyfags will literally accuse every female character of being Sally, it's pathetic lmao
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>>566456347
This is why Nishiyama got fired
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>>566456246
Top Cat is goat
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>>566449358
>>566449923
>>566456364
Sonic was brought back from the brink but this is what we gotta deal with now. I miss when it was just Persona
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>While Sonic’s approach and viewpoint differ from hers, Blaze likely respects his way of life to a significant degree, as it ultimately leads to outcomes that align with her own goals.

>Fundamentally, since they inhabit different worlds, it’s best for each to handle matters within their own realm. It is their world, after all.

>Respecting that… while maintaining mutual cooperation when truly needed. Striking this balance is quite difficult, but for now, it seems somewhat regulated by the guidance of the Chaos Emeralds and the Sol Emeralds.

>And the fact that Sonic and Blaze are the ones carrying this responsibility is another fascinating aspect of their relationship.

>Moving forward, Sonic and Blaze will continue to meet through this “guidance” at crucial moments, working together to overcome difficult situations.

>Please look forward to their unique partnership, maintaining that perfect distance and tension, as they continue to shine!
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IM QUITTING STHG AND IM NOT COMING BACK
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>>566445064
I hate this ship with a fiery fucking passion. I know people here don't like these characters, but if they were given any actual chance to be written like individual characters instead of only appearing to appease the gays, people would like them more.

This shit is just retarded.
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>>566456738
See you tomorrow
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>>566456414
>does my female character suck?
>no, the fans must be misogynist
everytime.
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>>566456306
>Knuckles is the guardian of the Chaos Emeralds
no

retard
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>>566452653
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Shadamy!
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>>566456834
i won't be coming back this general gives me fucking panic attacks
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>>566455283
Cause I find it funny and fitting whenever people post Woe, now answer my fucking question
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>>566456672
Are (you) Mexican?
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>>566456840
Why is Silver hanging out with Gardon? Is it because he's a bad character with nothing going for him?
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>>566457010
In the event you're being serious, what's wrong?
I mean, this place is shit and being here is a constant drain on anyone's mental health but a panic attack?
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>>566456441
>rouge has been getting flatter and flatter
>she appears beside team sonic in dream team and tmosth
>actually has visible curves
>year of shadow happens
>appears in dark beginnings and shadgens
>immediately flat as a board
Yeah your revisionism isn't gonna work this time buddy
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>>566456706
>>Moving forward, Sonic and Blaze will continue to meet through this “guidance” at crucial moments, working together to overcome difficult situations.
>>Please look forward to their unique partnership, maintaining that perfect distance and tension, as they continue to shine!
>Unleashed, lost world, forces, or cream being kidnapped in dream team wasn't important enough for her to show up
>but she'll show up to kart race with spongebob
Blaze is a joke character
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>>566457028
No but I remember when it still used to air on Boomerang. I don’t think the movies are great.
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>>566455804
You are wrong tho.
In the Bible, Jesus is God's son and he states directly that humanity was made in his image and any power not from him is blasphemous.
If you want to say that Jesus or God exists in Sonic's world then by that logic, mobians and the CEs are blasphemous and devil spawn, thus evil.
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>>566450157
>Irrational
Disliking this is the only rational course of thought
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>>566455269
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>>566445296
Duobro when are you going to make another Shadally/Silvouge?
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>>566456862
Knuckles the Echidna
File:Sonic3 MD JP SonicJam manual.pdf

Guardian of the Chaos Emeralds on the floating island.
A marsupial echidna. Nickname is "Knuckle."
Short-tempered and reckless. But he's a good, kind guy.
He is gullible because he is pure and honest.
He doesn't hate girls, but doesn't seem to be very good with them?
He can dig holes and climb walls with his special gloves.
His hobby is digging holes, of course. He is a mole, after all.
He is good at finding hidden routes.
He can even fly for a little bit.
Likes fruit. Hates strong sunlight.
Guardian of the Floating Island

That day, he was patrolling the altar of the island as usual.
It was his mission to protect the seven Chaos Emeralds that control the power of the "pillar" that lies beneath the island.

His name is Knuckles the Echidna. He is a spiny anteater who is called "Knuckle" by his island friends.
He was born and raised on this island, and all of the nature and animals on it were his friends. And the crystal "pillar" of the Chaos Emeralds is the one that protects his friends.
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>>566457098
i dont fucking know. im just so fucking burned out since i came back fromt he group home i was sent to every time i say i t can on despite ike amy i get told that sonamy is ooc or non sega of japan saying that sonamy and sonci is too shy to return to sonamy maybe im overractin gbut im fucking mad im so fucking mad and it makes me mad to hear people fucking hate amy
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>>566457021
no
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>>566456414
Krack is right but it's not really anything new. I don't consider the general fandom for any character, especially regarding Shadow
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>>566456802
Tangle being reduced to Whisper's lesbian lover and tard-wrangler is EXACTLY what she deserves
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>>566456967
BUTT
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AND ITS BECAUSE FUCKERS HERE KNOW HOW TO PUSH MY FUCKING BUTTONS
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>>566457343
/sthg/ on 4chan of all fucking places is doing this to you? Are you retarded? Dude get a life.
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>>566457237
This has never been shown or stated in any material since then; Knuckles protecting the Master Emerald exclusively, with Knuckles deferring to Sonic on multiple occasions.

Regardless Sonic is the defacto guardian of the Chaos Emeralds.
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>>566452849
I'm already happy knowing I'm not Ian Flynn.
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You guys don't seem to remember that this is the same general that housed moviesperg for 3 years despite the fact that the guy was clearly mentally stunted to a significant degree.

We really should bully tards on here more.
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sonic the hedgehog is the only reason why i havent killed myself you have no fucking idea how it feels to me when i feel attacked for my opinions
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>>566457343
Sonamy is cute and canon and everyone who hates Amy hates true love.
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>>566457171
>mobians
Okay Archiefag.
For starters, the idea that God looks like a human is not even in the bible. It's just the result of people merging his image with that of figures like Zeus and other sky father figures over time.
Animals and other creatures were also made by god. So there isn't some implication that humans look like humans because god looks like a human.
more importantly, it's a fucking expression.
God doesn't literally have to exist anymore than he does or doesn't IRL for the IDEA of God to exist.

You actual retard.
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>>566457403
Amy is a sexual creature by nature.
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>>566456640
Sega "mishandling" the characters is shorthand for "they didn't cater to my headcanons"
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>>566456414
Wait, let her cook
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>>566457739
You really should suck less.
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>>566457343
Just in case this isn't a bit, people are allowed to like and dislike things and this is not a reflection of you or your own likes and dislikes. I like Amy, and I know other people hate Amy. This is fine. Be boring if we all liked the same thing.
>but I have to listen to it
>people argue about me liking it
If these are relatable to you, two choices. Either understand that you can't please everyone and it's not your job to. Or take a long break from the internet because I think you need a bit more time to get some help, without shame.

If this is a bit, fuck you for making me type all that earnestly.
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>>566457601
>Regardless Sonic is the defacto guardian of the Chaos Emeralds.
Nice fanfic

>>566457739
>moviesperg
Haven't heard that name in a long time, damn.
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>>566456414
Trvth Napalm
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>>566457601
>defacto
Because he uses them when he needs to save the world like anyone would? Are you retarded?
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>>566457739
I wasn’t here for that. Who’s moviesperg?
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>>566457913
>Sonic doesn't guard the emeralds
Nice fanfic
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>>566457739
>bully tards
It's the sonic fandom. They blend in.
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Rape mobians.
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>>566458108
How is this him guarding anything?
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Super Sonic is the gold one that beats up bad guys.
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>>566458158
And no one complains about mariofags despite them being worse
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>>566457456
No he is not right at all.
How many people played Rush?
Nobody
When did Rouge did anything cool ever?
Never
He purposely ignore Surge. She has a neat design and cool powers so people root for her. Nobody root for characters that never did anything interesting like Rouge or forgotten nobodies like Blaze.
He has the mentality of a toddler who thinks he deserves attention because he moans and cry. Well that's not how it works.
Actually now that I think about it this is probably the reason Rushkeks are always so mad. They can't fathom the idea of nobody caring about their forgotten game
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>>566457913
remember when moviesperg fucked a shadow plush while chanting "rally for sally" because mimicfag tricked him into thinking it would get him neuro lewds
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>>566457771
>For starters, the idea that God looks like a human is not even in the bible
>Animals and other creatures were also made by god. So there isn't some implication that humans look like humans because god looks like a human
https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis%201%3A26-27&version=NIV
>ita an expression
Based on judeo-christain culture that wouldn't exist otherwise if Christianity wasn't a thing.
It makes no logical since for Sonic to know what or who Jesus or the Christian God is because their mere existence suggest that Judeo-Christainity did not develope or if it did believers of the fate would see Sonic and his ilk as evil devil spawn, which they don't.

We can both be autistic anon, but I am far more autistic than you.
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>>566458254
Because the games are better
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>>566457897
Why? This is 4chan. We're supposed to make fun of tards.
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>>566458273
I have no idea who you are but I know you fucking suck and you're responsible for a large quantity of the shitflinging here. You aren't gatekeeping anyone you're just lowering the quality of the threads by being an obnoxious cunt about characters and lore you don't like 24/7.
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Whisper is made for human cock (mine)
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>>566458579
FAT(ASS)
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>>566458372
But they are worse but somehow Sonic gets the autistic reputation
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>>566458579
Bouncing on a hung human male would cure her depression
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>>566458349
>spoiler
Yes I do. Holy shit times were wild.
>Based on judeo-christain culture that wouldn't exist otherwise if Christianity wasn't a thing.
Christmas exists in the Sonic universe so yes it exists. We even see other judeo christan peoples like the Muslims in SA2's cutscenes. The religion exists. God himself doesn't have to exist in the Sonic universe for the religion to exists anymore than it does IRL.

>We can both be autistic anon, but I am far more autistic than you.

I'm not even being autistic. You're just wrong.
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>>566458537
You suck dude. You fucking suck. I would be surprised if anyone enjoys you presence IRL because you clearly fucking suck so much.
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>>566458367
Being that autistic means thinking about the most unimportant shit ever
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>bestie is mentally ill and spergs out about people hating amy
yoshiwii1 is that you?
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>>566458560
>Every post who shits on someone else is the same person
>You cannot and will not talk negatively of X game ever
How about you fuck off instead
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>but Mario is worse than Sonic
My brother in Christ this debate was settled over 20 fucking years ago. Move on.
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>>566458651
No they aren't. No Mario game needed value sliders or mods for Mario to move correctly
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>>566458273
I can just tell you like Silver. Only his fags shit on Rush.
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Mariofags are honestly more autistic and hyperfixated on their cereal mascots than us. ours just have actual substance so there's stuff to actually argue about given the multiple conflicting canons.
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Amy cute
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>>566458759
Yoshiwii1?
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>>566458756
Fuck you faggot, don't engage in a fight with me with so little motivation and ammo.
Waste my fucking time. I ought to rape you for this.
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>>566458852
Sonicfags argue about the characters because the gameplay is shit
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>>566458852
Sonic is less of a cereal mascot and isn't really a kids game
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>>566455269
>Christcuck
I don't take anyone who uses that word seriously. Only people that use it are angry and resentful anonymous neckbeards on the internet
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>>566458767
You're one of 3 Blazeschizos that are dedicated to making this thread unusable whenever Blaze discussion pops up and I know your type well enough that it extends to other peoples interests that aggravate your autism.

You fuck off.
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>>566458102
In short he's an autist who would bake a lot of /sthg/ threads and had a hypnosis/snake fetish. He was also on the /sthg/ podcast regularly.
His most iconic moment is when he posted himself humping a Shadow plush for Neuro (sthg OC with hypnosis) lewds.
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/303254650/#q303283620
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>>566458909
Don’t get your balls in a twist.
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>>566458937
Found the Marioshitter.
>>566458940
Agreed.
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>>566458957
Okay Christcuck. Any more fascinating 'revelations' for us?
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>>566458852
good bait
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>>566458907
a lolcow from the older days who was really obsessed with amy and sonamy and sperged out daily about amy's haters and other amy and sonic ships that were not sonamy. he got ganged on by the whole sonic fandom on deviantart because they felt he was starting to become a paulandamy 2 (another bestie who went to jail)
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>>566458852
No one will ever believe that because it's a lie. Sonic is the autists homebase till the end of time.
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>>566459041
What if I get them in a knot?
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>>566459008
lmao I didn’t know there was a podcast
https://youtu.be/hyxdF6UYs0o?si=B3miUxvYWuAbGFmm
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>>566459140
>doesn't know about all the weird Yoshi fetishist art
Pokemon is honestly bad about it as well. Both just get away with it more because both are mickeymousified goyslop that the mass market consumes.
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>>566459064
Why do you hate Christianity so much? I'm assuming you're one of those anti-theist atheists that loves hurling insults on the internet but wouldn't say them in real life
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>>566458790
>Muh Xfag
Everyone who played Rush shit on Rush
Anyone who isn't blinded by nostalgia shit on Rush
I will tell you who didn't play Rush:
Everyone who defend the OST, because it is impossible you listened to any of it when you are spamming and mashing the A button trying to get the bar full just to fall of a cliff 3 seconds later.
>>566459000
KILL YOUR FUCKING SELF
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>>566459008
Don't forget to mention that he wore diapers until he was like 14.
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>>566459308
I know more than you can imagine chief and sonic fags are 100% more autistic
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>>566456851
It says it isn't misogyny in the 2nd to last paragraph
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>>566459169
Lmao why are sonamyfags so unhinged. If they don't become a couple by the next movie thry'll probably kill themselves.
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>>566459304
It's a pretty unhinged watch to be honest. Sometimes it's quite dull but other times it can get entertaining because of the mix of personalities. Mimicfag was just there to start shit and upset people but I can't deny it was funny.
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everyone is a fucking prick now
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>>566456640
She occasionally complains about sega but seems to view idw or soa as the worst offenders. krack tends to narrowly focus.
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>>566445303
Neither. Chao game.
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>>566459316
>Why do you hate Christianity so much?
I dont hate it. I just live triggering and fighting fake internet Christians because they usually don't even bother reading the Bible they say they believe in so they're easy dunks + free entertainment.
>anti-theist atheist
I believe if there is a God then it doesn't matter because he/she/it does not care for us. We do not matter to such a higher being. It'd be like a human caring for some random ant colony on the side of the road.
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>>566459378
Per capita, probably. But there are less of us than there are for Mario or Pokemon.
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>>566459601
Fionafag you’re so suave.
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game with my oc
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>>566459576
IDW and SoA are the worst offenders, the main thing SoJ should be doing better is keeping Westniggers in line like the dogs they are.
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>>566459008
>hypnosis/snake fetish
Based
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>>566458273
Youre retarded man rouge does cool stuff and plenty played rush
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Mimicfag was so rent free in this board's collectives consciousness that people would get accused of being him at the drop of a hat for months on end, it was hilarious.
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>>566459680
That's only because everyone else is so cringe.
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>>566457836
I really don't mean any condescension but, is the possibility that ST/Sega could misuse their characters really impossible? Is every choice and idea ST and Sega has for Sonic and its extended cast always the right one?
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>>566459458
I find it funny and ironic that the last thing we ever heard from mimicfag was him dealing with his severe obesity.
Every single shitposter we have ever had on here is fucked up in some hilarious way.
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>>566459601
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>>566456414
This is why I only fantasize about Sonic girls turning into mannish titans and me being a soft and diligent househusband
Take that, feminization.
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>>566459983
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Which namefags are confirmed to have real autism?
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>>566459885
She has been cool once in here entire existence and it was in Dark beginnings. Nothing more
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>>566459439
Sonamy will be vindicated in 2027 and its haters won't be able to do anything about, not the Sonadow fujos, not Ian Flynn, and not the burdensome critics of the 2010s who convinced Sonic Team to make Sonic the only playable character
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>>566460081
All of them. Literally.
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>>566460084
Wrong but ok
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>>566456656
>Sallyfags will literally accuse every female character of being Sally, it's pathetic lmao
Yeah buddy but you're not going to believe this
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>>566459902
Well not everyone, right?
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>>566457472
Which of these two has the most potential to successfully carry solo storylines/story with other game characters?
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>>566459731
Whenever he baked he would make the OP image his fetish so it was extremely obvious who it was every time
I also forgot he wrote a Tangle/Kaa fic
https://docs.google.com/document/d/13nteBMTxs-jcOCUb-RHIKeAMD-jsERLga_a0uugDTbI/edit?usp=sharing
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There are no real "new Sallys" except potentially rebel Rouge. The reason so many Sally-likes appear is because Sally is a generic standard no-nonsense team mom character meaning every single time they make a serious female character people will call it the new Sally.
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>>566460213
Can you explain how you got Sally out of this?
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>>566460269
i'll book in first class. no way i am going to stay here
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>>566460269
Me and Creampedo sharing cunny and willy pics.
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>>566460269
>still haven't become a namefag
feels good
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>>566460269
Where's ReverseFlashPoster?
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>>566460269
Fionafag and Duefag is the best bet.
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>>566459962
Of course he's obese. I hope the reason he hasn't been here in years is because he's working on it.
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>>566460519
I used to be one but people forgot.
I didnt even stop posting or anything, they just stopped bringing me up.
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>>566460292
I'd say Whisper because she has a gun but in practice, she's just used as fodder for crying and therapy circles. Plus, I think both Whisper and Tangle are useless and burdensome OCs that don't belong in the franchise
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>>566460379
>All the new characters they make just rip off Sally

Not even surprised...
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>>566460262
You're alright, Fonzie.
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>>566460292
Tangle, but Tangle only exists because Ian doesn't know how to use Amy, who filled the exact niche he was looking for when he made her (he doesn't know how to use any of the other female characters either), so I would prefer she just fuck off and we use existing game characters instead.
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>>566460604
>is because he's working on it.
I doubt it desu. People like that typically don't stop.
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>>566460423
This response is in-character for Sally, who doesn't like playhfulness in dire situations, not Rouge.
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>>566458349
https://vocaroo.com/7Ecm4QZLf1F
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>>566460689
Ian Flynn is sick
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>>566460269
Sitting between Scribbles and Fionafag would be the best.
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Top 5 Boys
Tails
Zero
Shadow
Knuckles
Omega

Top 5 Girls
Honey
Bunnie
Sally
Blaze
Rouge
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You guys have no idea how lucky we have it. At least our shitposters aren't willing to pay to shitpost.
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>>566459682
sonic forces
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>>566460683
kys sallytroon
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>>566460834
You do know Rebel Rouge is just Rouge being split into one of many alternate dopplegangers right?
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>>566460967
Which general and namefag is this referring to
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>>566460689
>Sally fucks her own daughter
Where the fuck did Flynn write something like that? First it’s a Metroid crossover, then its a Teletubbies crossover, now it’s jumped to this?
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Sonic JP: Highlights Vanilla for Mother's Day
Sega JP: Highlights Amy for Mother's Day

What did Sega JP meant by this
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>>566460631
that's a good thing isn't it?
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>>566460967
so you mean the gacha generals?
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>>566461036
That would be a good explanation for all the other counter parts but Rebel is implied to have lived her life as Rouge until the Eggmen took over just like everyone else in New Yoke.
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I still have 2 hours at work, this thread had better still be alive by then.
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>>566460964
Hot chick heaven!
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Why are non Mania games so shit?
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>>566460736
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>>566461080
I am the father of course
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>>566461171
>Sallysperg didn't watch the show, let alone look up the synopsis.
NewYoke doesn't exist until the Paradox Prism shattered.
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>>566461080
Amy and Sonic will eventually get married and start a family together
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>>566461202
has /sthg/ died even a single time (without some stuff like autosage) in the last, like, 5 years?
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>>566459330
I actually didn't know this but it's on-brand for him.
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>>566461323
That's not what I'm talking about. She reacts when Sonic calls her Rouge asking "How do you know my name?" and Nine's childhood is just the original classic Tails without Sonic.
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>>566461080
my mom thinks amy's cute. she's not invested in sonic. she only likes her design
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>>566460689
>average american
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>>566452145
Ian needed all the Sonic-tier characters away from the giant Omega fight long enough for Eggman to nearly beat everyone so Sonic can save everyone in the nick of time.
Why that? Because Ian didn't want the Metal Virus arc, sorry, SAGA, to end on the bittersweet note of the virus being destroyed while Sonic goes missing, G-merl is backstabbed, Omega is kidnapped and Eggman gets away.
Mr. Needlemouse wasn't the point, he was just a tool used to get the story to its intended conclusion, they never intended on doing anything with him that wasn't stalling Sonic's involvement, he was never meant to parallel Mr. Tinker or Shadow from Heroes.
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>>566461561
Legend
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>>566460834
How many people does Rebel kiss then?
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>>566461442
>. She reacts when Sonic calls her Rouge asking "How do you know my name?"
Why would this matter for anything?
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Remove Vanilla amd Cream
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>>566461397
I want you guys to go slower. I hate having to read an archived thread before moving on the the new current one. If you guys would just SLOW DOWN, I could stay in one thread and read until the current posts before joining the discussion.
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>>566461609
What’s this game called again? Chronicles?
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I’m the gayest
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Maria was Shadow's mom and sister and girlfriend and best friend and love interest and family and
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>>566461609
Sonic Prime is a little kids show, even if Sally was in it she wouldn't kiss anyone
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>>566460818
You're right, he's graduated from shitposting here to somewhere else.
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>>566461716
go to /fast/, bro
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>>566461773
Go back to twitter.
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>>566461746
*sucks more cock*
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I want to be Vanilla
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>>566461775
Why do modern kids shows hate natural heterosexuality?
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>>566461746
how big and gay is ur penis
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>>566461904
I was here before Twitter and before you
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>>566461925
How are you going to do that, anon?
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>>566459318
Imagine having no taste and not liking Sonic Rush lmao
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>>566462093
That's not something to be proud of.
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>>566461926
Because the industry is dead and the only people willing to work for pennies are autistic fags who want to dominate the media ecosystem they're still obsessed with
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>>566462193
>Bad hit detection
>missing animations
>sloppy bosses
>repeated levels
>enemy rooms to pad levels out
>cheap instant death
More like Sonic Rushed, amirite?
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>>566462193
usually people with no taste do like sonic rush
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>>566452849
>i am so happy I get to fuck over and gaslight Sonic fans they will never get this level of duper's delight lol lmao
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>>566461739
I thought it was Chronicles 2
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>>566462325
You're on a blue cartoon rat general on a Mongolian turtle breeding anime forum. Your opinion on what people should be proud of doesn't matter.
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>>566461926
more like the only kids attracted to Sonic Prime are fags and anybody straight sees this cringe shit and leaves
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>>566461775
Sally kissed boys im SatAM
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>>566462747
That was mouth rape.
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>>566462747
you have no reading comprehension
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>>566461739
"Without giving too much away, the title is more of a joke than the actual premise and I did not consider the implications when I coined it. I know that's vague."
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/552357510/#q552360558
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>>566462747
things were different 33 years ago
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Reminder that all the anti-shadouge shit is just krack samefagging
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>>566461584
Why did Sonic need to be Mr. Needlmouse, if he just needed to be trapped in Blaze's Dimension for an issue?
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>>566462945
>only one person hates my ship
back to /dbs/
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>>566459682
Fuck off Woefag
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>>566462945
Nah, I agree with krack that Shadouge is pretty lame and forced.
I also think Krack needs to let Shadow move on from Muhria instead of obsessing over her being his entire personality.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7_AyU7bacyo
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>>566462945
I don't give a fuck about shipping, but you shadougefaggots have been acting like retards ever since 2024 just because Maria showed up so now I hate shadouge. You're just as insufferable as Sallyfags unironically.
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>>566463084
shadow isn't meant to move on from maria entirely. that's like saying sonic should move on from adventure. or blaze should move on from the sol dimension.
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What if Tails was fat?
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>>566463126
>Sallyfags
what did we even do
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Like fucking clockwork
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>>566463084
>Shadow needs to move on from Muhria instead of obsessing over her being his entire personality.
That's the same excuse Ian Flynn uses to try to get Amy to stop loving Sonic
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>>566462818
SatAM was a show for kids, retard-kun
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>>566463250
You particularly probably never did anything but you guys willingly provoke Sonamyfags and windfags by posting random out of date western stuff and calling it in character. You know damn well it barely takes anything to make a bestie seethe and I don't care about watching the threads flooded with Amyfag fury.
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>>566463250
I hate those fucking pancake head plushes so fucking much
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>>566463084
Maria is his motivation not his personality. Shadow experienced nothing but negativity his whole life as a result of humans. Maria was the one positive. You take away Maria you take away Shadow's motivation for being a cool badass anti-hero in the first place. He would ironically become even more withdrawn because the Maria experience proved not everyone is bad. No Maria = no reason to give anyone a chance.
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I think if you have a bias for gay ships, you're max level cringe
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>>566463285
holy shit you can't read
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>>566463301
Need to add another one before it loops back to the top where they start calling people momthrowers or whatever.
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>>566463219
Shadow was not conceived as the "cried about dead girl " character. Comparing it to Sonic being an adventurer isn't apples to apples.
I'm not saying he has to erase her from his character, but Krack (and many of Shadow's fangirls) obsessively makes everything and anything he does about Maria which is detrimental to his character.
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>>566463126
Yeah, shadougefags have been behaving badly. Absolutely everyone else is totally innocent. You realize you can shop shadaria without thinking about douge right?
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>>566463639
Why are you talking to me about Shadria?
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>>566460269
3, I like window seats.
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>>566463630
>Shadow was not conceived as the "cried about dead girl " character.
Did you play Sonic Adventure 2 or look at what Maekawa or Iizuka, Shadow's creators, have said? I don't think you did.
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>establishing scene with a outer shot of Honey's multistory brand HQ with muffled banging.
>transition to inside Honey's office (pic related) with Honey banging on her desk.
>BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG BANG
FOX SEXO! FOX SEXO RIGHT NOW! WHERE IS MY TWO TAILED FOXBUDDY!
>Jewel enters the scene
Honey can you please just quiet down a little bit you're scaring th-
>BANG BANG BANG BANG
FUCK YOU! I WILL NOT CALM DOWN UNTIL FOX KNOT IS FIRMLY PLANTING ITS SEED IN ME! TAILS SEXO NOW!
>Jewel nervously waves in a blobian who looks almost exactly like Tails
O-oh look who it is! It's Tails! Now you don't have to shout and bang around so much that our customers get nervous r-right?
>Honey leers at him, examining him not unlike a Lion looking down on gazelle it's about to feast on.
Hmmmmmmmm.
>The Tails look alike begins to sweat more and more before Honey shoves her fingers in his mouth, pull them out and licking them.
BITCH THAT'S NOT TAILS!
Wh-what how do you-
TAILS ALWAYS HAS A SLIGHT FLAVOR OF MINT IN HIS SPIT THIS IMPOSTER DIDNT EVEN BRUSH HIS TEETH THIS MORNING I BET!
>Honey then throws both Jewel and Barry out the top window of her 50 story building.
>Honey returns to her chair and continues her tantrum over "Tails sexo"
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>>566463232
looks like someone has been having too many big macs
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>>566463505
holy shit youre retarded
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>>566463630
>Shadow was not conceived as the "cried about dead girl " character.
Correct. He was conceived as the "obsessively mistaken about dead girl and wants to genocide everyone for her" character.
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>>566463461
Your conception of Shadow has no personal motivation. he just does what Maria wanted. This undermines his arc from his own game.
> Shadow experienced nothing but negativity his whole life as a result of humans.
It was literally just GUN.
>You take away Maria you take away Shadow's motivation for being a cool badass anti-hero in the first place
No you don't. Holy shit. Shadow doesn't need Maria to justify him being an anti-hero. In fact, making it all about Maria makes him more generically a hero.
> He would ironically become even more withdrawn because the Maria experience proved not everyone is bad. No Maria = no reason to give anyone a chance.
You're proving my point about Muhria monopolizing his personality. Shadow experienced interactions with characters like Sonic, Amy, Rouge, omega, etc that helped show him not everyone is bad.
Boiling it all down to just Maria make shim a one note character,
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>>566463630
where would Shadow go that won't piss off half the fanbase anyway
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>Iizuka: The difference [between Sonic and Shadow] is that Shadow is a dark hero. Sonic is a hero who protects justice and peace, but Shadow is a dangerous character who doesn't care what happens to anyone as long as his goal is achieved. Shadow is not a righteous hero, so even if someone is in trouble on the side of the road, he doesn't help them. Shadow risked his life to protect the planet for his beloved Maria. His main goal is not justice, but protecting the planet that Maria loved.

>His main goal is protecting the planet that Maria loved.

This is the guy who wrote Shth and the Rivals games where Maria wasn't that relevant. Anti Maria fags still point to it.
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>>566463708
Did you?
Because last I checked, Maekawa said the point where the character came to life in his mind was when he came up with their rival banter on Prison island.
>>566463882
No, he was conceived as the dark rival to Sonic.
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>>566464018
>Sonic is a hero

W-windsisters what did he mean by this????
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>>566463552
>beep beep
That takes me back.
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>>566463232
Remember that Shigeru Miyamoto said he doesn't see Mario games and its movies as works of art but rather as merely products
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>>566463365
>you guys willingly provoke Sonamyfags and windfags
shippers and gran autismos get baited. big deal. Still not our fault
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>>566464173
that's what they are though
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>>566464162
Cute N Canon!
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>>566464018
What part of "I am not "AntiMaria". I am just tired of reducing his every thought, decision, motivation and interest to just "What would Maria have liked".
he stops being a character and just becomes a boytoy for malajusted womenchildren who havent grown past the phase of wishing for a dark edgy guy be willing to kill and die for them.
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>>566463909
You don't understand Shadow at all.
Shadow CHOOSES to honor Maria's wish. Black Doom AND Gerald tried to erase his memory of Maria in order to control him. By valuing what he felt with Maria, he is actually exhibiting more personal willpower and motivation, not less.
You are so stupid man. Iizuka disagrees with you. Maekawa disagrees with you. Sonic Team disagrees with you. The plot of SA2 disagrees with you. The only people who agree with you are delusional terminally online American shippers who have never felt real love and so cannot comprehend why he would value it.
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you know you guys don't have to be this autistic about sonic ships right?
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>>566464351
You have proven to be no better than all the shipfags you criticize.
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>>566464162
>best ship coming through!
They hated him because he spoke the truth
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>>566464267
Even games that don't mention Maria have Maria's wish as his base motivations you tard.
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>>566464585
Thiccmy sex!
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>>566464382
>you don't have to be autistic about sonic
get out
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>>566464173
Miyamoto also put the Frog suit in Mario 3 for no reason other than he thought it was fun. I feel like Miyamoto doesn't see a difference between product and art, at any rate, he probably wouldn't call the games/toys he made "content".
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>>566462945
Not her but I don't have a problem with Shadouge, I just don't believe Shadow would get invested romantically with any girl after Maria's death. I could believe in Rouge being warm towards or even falling for Shadow but I can't imagine the opposite. People can ship whatever they want but if we're talking about who these characters are and what they're likely to do officially then I'd say Shadouge isn't happening.
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ChatGPT agrees that Sonic is a Japanese franchise
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>>566464778
>Not her but
you aren't fooling anyone.
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>>566464519
Not Free Riders
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>>566464778
>officially then I'd say Shadouge isn't happening.
Shadouge is happening as we speak, how much more obvious does it need to be? Shadow's whole arc is about moving on
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>>566464918
or Team Sonic Racing.
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>>566464896
How do I respond to things like this without just spelling out who I am
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>>566464232
They are products but they're supposed to have passion put into them. Something having monetary value doesn't exclude it from having high quality
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>>566465031
>who I am
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A82yfVTd6Vg
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>>566464138
>>566464018
Genuine question, does Iizuka understand Sonic as a character, and do you agree with Iizuka's interpritation of Sonic's character?
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>>566465119
imagine thinking vidya is art
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>Tails knows what dirt tastes like.
You think he was the kind of kid that ate earthworms growing up?
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*headpats your OC*
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>>566465258
yes it is. or it's supposed to be. if you think otherwise then you are part of the present day problem with gaming
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>>566465380
Fuck off woefag
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>>566464872
Because it is?
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>>566464018
Iizuka is a dumbfuck who misrepresents Sonic just so his OC looks better, which he doesn't understand either
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>Improves your franchise.
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>>566462931
Don't like how I worded that. I knew the implications but posting the title has a 100% guarantee of causing spam of it which sounds stupid to presume without context but I'm pretty certain.
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>>566464585
Fat bitch, put down the ice cream. Sonic hates girls with fat thighs. Fucking fatty.
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>>566465497
Kys cigsfag
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I Shadow the hedgehog am eating these hotpockets made on the planet Maria loved so much! I will eat them in her honor! This is who i am!
Noms*
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*smokes your OC*
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I think it's lame that you can't fight Sonic as Shadow in Shadow generations but I guess then they'd have to make a stage where you can't use your doom powers to go along with his dialogue or whatever
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>>566465409
no, OCs are good for the soul
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>>566465608
I and Shadow the hedgehog! I am joining this racing competition to win because Maria loved the planet so much!
I am changing my shoes because this is what Maria would have wanted!
I am running to do groceries because this is what Maria would have wanted me to do! This is who I am!
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>>566464468
You just don't like Shadow on a conceptual level.

Nobody's saying "mention Maria in every game", nobody is pushing for that. Although I'm beginning to think it's necessary because people like (You) push the narrative that Shadow forgot her when she's not referenced.
The point is that Maria's the foundation of who he is and why he does what he does. It's like Amy’s love for Sonic, which pulls her into adventures and leads her to do things that have nothing to do with Sonic directly. She never would've befriended Gamma without that initial motivation (Sonic).
Same with Shadow. Every cool, independent thing he accomplishes still traces back to Maria as his core drive. It gives him direction and consistency. He experienced goodness, and wants others to have a chance to experience goodness as well.
You're asking him to throw away the very reason he became the character you claim to like.

Actually, answer this for me:
What, specifically, is Maria's memory preventing Shadow from doing?
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unpopular opinion: The Doom Powers were fucking gay and unnecessary
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>>566465773
counter opinion: Shadow can now become a tentacle monster whenever he wants
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>>566465773
I always figured that the doom powers are a direct attempt at copying the venom powers from Spdierman 2023 since that game outcompeted superstars
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>>566465468
And who does understand Shadow?
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>>566465769
>You just don't like Shadow on a conceptual level.
Whatever helps you sleep at night.
>Actually, answer this for me:
>What, specifically, is Maria's memory preventing Shadow from doing?
When did I say it was, you actual shipautist?
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>>566465773
They're just a reminder that Shadow is forever tied to Black Doom as a recurring antagonist, thus consistently cheapening their relationship.
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>>566465497
live yourself CigsChad
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>>566465529
I think I guessed it. it's because you're scared of Krack right
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I Shadow the hedgehog will wear his scarf! Maria liked scarfs and would want me to be warm so now I will wear it! This is who I am!
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Oh the lolcow queen is here.
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>>566465773
DoomPowers are presented as a thing you use because you have them but they themselves aren't a good thing.
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same talking points over and over
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>>566465896
You guys always fold within one or two effortposts. It's so boring. Just like a different character if his base drive bothers you.
>When did I say it was
Why else would you be so mad at it? Clearly you think it's having an effect on something.
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>>566466201
Same place, same time, only on /sthg/
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>>566466009
>Lanolin's feet
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>No Maria
>GRRRRR I AM MAD SHADOW IS A HEARTLESS ASSHOLE
>Maria
>GRRRRR I AM MAD THAT SHADOW HAS LOVE IN HIS HEART
Shut the fuck up already
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>>566466025
No
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>>566466232
How am I folding to anything? You made up my position. I told you "that isn't my position. Where did I say what you claimed I did" and then posted this complete non-answer.. The only one doing any folding is you
>Why else would you be so mad at it?
I'm not mad at it. I already said I am critical of boiling down and centralizing everything to it.
You would know this if you turned your shipping autism dial down a bit and read what I posted rather than the imaginary attack on your ship you perceived instead.
For the record, I actually agree Shadow wouldn't date anyone because Maria can't be replaced. But holy shit, you want this guy to have no life outside of her.
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Lanolin, Clove, and Bump going shoe shopping only to reveal they all have different types of feet
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>>566464018
>but Shadow is a dangerous character who doesn't care what happens to anyone as long as his goal is achieved.
So why did Shadow "Yell "DON'T TOUCH IT!" to warn Rouge before Iblis appeared when she flew to an emerald?
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shadow is a boring character for ships regardless of who he is shipped with.
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Shadow should be out doing cool things because of Maria
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Maria would want Shadow to be his own person rather than make his entire personality just doing what he thinks she would of wanted is the ironic part.
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but what about Silver :(
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>>566466758
Shadow goes out doing cool things because he IS Maria
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>>566466758
Maria wants me to do cool things? Alright then! I, Shadow the Hedgehog, will now be the coolest thing doer on the planet she loved so much! This is who I am!!!
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>>566466965
oh yes that's Maria's true form
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>>566465769
>What, specifically, is Maria's memory preventing Shadow from doing?
Marrying Rouge, Amy, or even Sonic or my OC for that matter.
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>>566466828
>>566466965

>>566466804
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hmph, pathetic humans

watch me jump over this chair
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>>566467119
Shadow wants to have his cake and eat it too
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>>566466505
I post about Shadow's life and traits that don't involve Maria all of the time. It's just a canon fact that Shadow's driving motivation is Maria and what she represented to him (positive emotions). This really shouldn't be controversial. He can have his own individual traits, and he does. I don't remember Maria saying she liked coffee anywhere. But if he's doing something major or dangerous it always does boil down to the fact that his only true experience with kindness, beauty, and hope, was her. That is why he risks his life to protect those things.
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>>566465769
>>566467113
His own feelings and opinions on anything. Because we gotta filter it through the lens of Marias's perceived desires and opinions.

>making it about shipping.
My utter shock.
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Shadow should start a garden to learn to love the world Maria loved so much.
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How do we kill Krack?
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>>566467151
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>>566467572
Keep posting douge ig
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sally
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>>566467298
Shadow liking coffee beans is a relatively new fact that started as just a meme from twitter takeovers during the era where his Maria interest was actually downplayed. To a fault I'd even argue.
Even then, I'd be shocked if you didn't equate his liking coffee to some memory on the ARK with Maria.
>He can have his own individual traits, and he does.
Name em. Do so without making it about Maria.
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>The tragic and lonely character should stop being lonely and tragic
Ah yes. A good way to turn Shadow into Knuckles and Blaze. Only for a new character who is lonely and tragic to pop up and replace the niche Shadow left open, because it turns out that lonely and tragic characters are popular.
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>>566467572
Seduce her and then give her HIV
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Tails
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>>566467671
>Shadow is only lonely and tragic because Maria
You're actually retarded.
There is so much tragic about him besides the fact Maria died and he had a bond with her. Not everything about him has to be about Maria.
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>>566467671
>no you don't understand, Shadow needs to remain an angsty emo git to be a good character
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>>566467671
>arguing against shit no one said
Krack.exe is malfunctioning.
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Dr. Gerald mindraped Shadow
Then Black Doom tried to mindrape him
Shadow's entire character revolves around mindrape
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>>566467653
SoA says he likes coffee beans, SoJ has it that he just likes coffee.
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>>566465529
So it's something like Shadow X Sally Chronicles?
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>>566466009
What drives someone to render this?
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>>566467869
>why doesnt he go to therapy and take estrogen
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>>566467671
Blaze lonliness and tragedy could be popular if she fills the niche of resolving her lonliness.

Kinda like what some people like to do with resolving Shadouge.
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>>566467869
I actually agree he does or else he just becomes generic shitty friend number 12.
This is a problem a lot of series have when they redeem characters and then remove all their edge and they just become generic and bland. The tragedy of his character can and should remain. it's fine and valid.
My problem is boiling it down to just Maria as if the rest of the fucked up shit involved with him, his creation and his relationship with the world isn't tragic or important. Just the fact he liked a sick girl and she died.

Krack is the one who doesn't care about his character. She cares about protecting the parts of him that make him important to her ship.
Everything else is secondary.
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>>566468096
>anon can't think outside of extremes
go back to twitter tourist
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what was the meaning that he searched for so long
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Long term storytelling in the Sonic franchise only ever worked in Archie. The games are treated as one off and barely, nationally related to one another.
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>>566467671
>Ah yes. A good way to turn Shadow into Knuckles and Blaze.
IDW already tries to do this with Shadow.

>Only for a new character who is lonely and tragic to pop up and replace the niche Shadow left open
I feel they tried to do this with Whisper at first, but that fell flat, and now she's just gay and cries.
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>>566468242
That he decides his own fate. He is his own master.
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>>566468264
Most game stories are connected in some way. They're just not required to understand what's going on (outside of maybe Shadow 2005), which is not a problem at all
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>>566468267
uuuuuu...
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>>566468242
"Be sonic"
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>Why doesn't Eggman just stop wanting to conquer the world and just do something else?
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>>566468190
thank you for actually explaining your point, I can actually agree with this view (mostly), I think Shadow always having a emotional burden over his life is necessary but certain aspects of that don't need to stick around forever otherwise it feels like returning to the well too many times.
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Shadow standing somewhere, thinking about Maria
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>>566468447
oops I clicked your post to open the quick reply box, my bad my bad
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Shadow standing in a cave, for no reason
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Blaze standing while singing.
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>>566468609
It's okay!
Blaze is cool
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Shadow and Mephiles joining together as a new powerful team
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>>566467653
Shadow liking coffee isn't a new trait
trait lol. The first people to mention it were the Japs. Coffee BEANS specifically is a Twitter meme thing.
There are plenty of milder traits Shadow has that are not directly connected to Maria. I talk about them a lot. In fact whenever I make AI write stories for my amusement, I give it a character guide for Shadow that directs it *not* to have him mention or think about Maria constantly.
Do you really need a list? Like turning around and crossing his arms when he's uncomfortable with a social interaction. Is it not already obvious? Do you need a list? I'm going to go take a bath you're going to need to wait if you really need a list.
>>566467801
You guys really do just put words in peoples' mouths. Shadow is tragic for many reasons, not just Maria. Maria is arguably the most tragic part, but not the only tragic part. Not by a longshot. Just the fact that he's immortal is tragic.
>>566467869
>I want Shadow to become a le sweetie tsundere shitty friend who immediately becomes irrelevant afterwards like the several other characters in the franchise that did the exact same thing and already fill that role, I need him to DEVELOP and by DEVELOP I actually mean I am a self-inserter, if I have to think for more than two seconds about how the character seems cold but isn't I will have a brain aneurysm, I cannot handle any amount of seriousness in my baby franchise despite bitching incessantly about how everything is Hello Kitty now, remove all original traits @Sega I cannot #relate please make it #relatable
No.
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Ok krack we get it you like Sonadow
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>>566468913
Shadow doesn't love Maria, she was a good friend nothing more
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>>566469004
Sonadow is the shittiest ship. Faggotry is a dead end.
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>>566468264
>long-term
Archie never had long-term arcs, it was far more episodic
IDW on the other hand....
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>everytime shadouge is brought up massive shitflinging starts as anons scramble to shout it down and "debunk" it
I'm starting to suspect it's the most powerful ship
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>>566469035
I must avenge! My...good friend!
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>>566469184
25 years is long term
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>>566468750
Mephiles is like Shadow's shadow, so we need Shadow's glint. A Light Dark Sonic, if you will.
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>>566469184
IDW doesn't have anything. It just pretends it has a story to tell.
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>>566469184
>Archie never had long-term arcs
Mammoth Mogul's shit arc lasted so long that I dropped the series because of it.
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what a fucking G
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>>566469035
Characters do not kill people over good friends. Characters might kill someone over a best friend. The streets will run red with the blood of the enemies if a family member or wife/husband is killed, which is why it's the defacto choice in stories
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Maria, and the goodness Maria represented, is Shadow's motivation to protect Earth. When he is doing his dark hero shtick, she is the base reason for it.

This does not mean Maria must be constantly mentioned, or that every plot and trait of his must revolve around Maria, or that Shadow can never think or do or experience something new that is unrelated to Maria.

What is unclear here? Which part of it is making people so mad?
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>>566469219
yes
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I am looking for other people who lean right politically and want to have gay sex with Sonic characters
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>>566469419
and then Sally got killed
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>>566469035
>Iizuka: Shadow is a dangerous character who doesn't care what happens to anyone as long as his goal is achieved. Shadow is not a righteous hero. Shadow risked his life to protect the planet for his beloved Maria. His main goal is not justice, but protecting the planet that Maria loved.
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Tails?
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>>566469531
حبيبي...
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>>566468913
>chocolate and coffee flavored cakes.
Hardly the same as just liking coffee.
>Do you really need a list? Like turning around and crossing his arms when he's uncomfortable with a social interaction.
I don't mean behavioral quirks. I mean personality traits. As in interests, likes, dislikes, things he cares about doing that don't just get railroaded back into being about Maria.

>You guys really do just put words in peoples' mouths
Pot calling the the hedgehog Black.
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>>566469426
Shadow is emotional stunted and autistic, he doesn't love Maria romantically, he just has an autistic attachment to her which is why he was a vengeful as he was regarding her death
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The concept of Shadow getting a light counterpart like Lucius the Light or something before any of Sonic's shitty friends is funny
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>>566469589
She lived a life of danger because she's cool asf
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Chroniclesfag, you here?
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>>566469434
Prove it. Waiting for the list.
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An inability to understand why a person would value someone even if that someone is dead and no longer be useful to the person is a clear sign of psychopathy.
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>>566469434
>What is unclear here? Which part of it is making people so mad?
Unironic, unfiltered autism.
>>565730396
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>>566469072
Based Krack
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>>566469682
That's fine but if you're a shipper you just shot your leg off by saying that
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>>566469613
Beloved doesn't automatically equate to romantic love, it's just means something or someone is important to you. Friends are beloved but that doesn't mean you love them romantically
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Relationships like Shadria don't exist IRL
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>>566470025
>Uh saying it's love doesn't mean it's love you chud
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>closest thing to love
>closest
He didn't love her. Shadow doesn't know what love is. And now that she is gone, he never will.
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>>566469973
I don't ship shadow with anyone so I'm fine
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>>566470142
What is this from
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>>566470215
I forget. Some guidebook
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Alright. Shadow gets over Maria. Now what?
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>>566470025
uhuh
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>>566470313
He fucks Sally
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>>566470268
So in other words something that's noncanon
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>>566470137
you seem to lack reading comprehension anon, about what I'd expect from you. Shadow isn't in love with Maria, cope.
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>>566470389
God damnit man
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>>566470268
Well I'd like to see more of it so please tell me if you find it
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>>566470313
I don't know, I feel like we are doing the maria arc too many times now. I hope sega comes up with a new arc for shadow eventually and I hope is not as shit as the whole robot identity one.
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>>566470401
https://youtu.be/SCegb14_UiM?t=144
>>566470448
Will do
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>>566470319
SOA does this to Amy too. SOA is cancerous tumor upon the franchise
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>>566470493
So you want Shadow to get over Maria, but you have no idea where his character should go next and just want Sega to figure it out? Very Ian-ish.
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>if you, the reader, who does not write fiction for a living know what this character's exact next arc should be in perfect deal just BACK OFF OK????
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>>566470619
It's Fang the Sniper Hunter!
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It's interesting that people bitched and moaned about Amy needing to have her love for Sonic removed in the 2010s but people bitch and moan that Shadow isn't going on and on about Maria enough around the same time.
Really goes to show the gendered double standards.
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>>566470989
the former is on full display all the time. the latter was barely relevant but was still acknowledged
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>>566470989
Men don't like women and women don't like men
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My whipping boy
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>>566470898
It doesn't need to be a perfect direction, just A direction, but not saying anything at all says quite a lot
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>>566470764
Gnight
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>>566470989
Another good winter エミー today. Thank you.
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>>566471416
>got the spelling right this time
nice!
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>>566471504
You're talking about the other anon. I always get it right. >>566424639
I look for new Pixiv porn of her every month, so of course I know how to spell it.
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>>566471510
>men are boring
le shock
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>>566471510
>lightning mcqueen
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does anyone have the picture of whisper eating a delicious juicy burger?
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>>566469786
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>>566471147
>the former is on full display all the time
In most games, it came up once really. The ones where it was more, people didn't even play.
>the latter was barely relevant but was still acknowledged
People kept insisting they were erasing his background and backstory and his promise to Maria at the time, trying to turn him into "Vegeta" just because he didn't bring up Maria enough.

Now Amyfags are in a similar place, except there does seem to be an actual effort to erase her love of Sonic rather than her simply not bringing it up all the time based on what has been shown above. (going back to existing material to remove it? Really?)
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>>566471701
>dame dame guy
sick
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>>566471921
>>566471921
>>566471921
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>>566461561
>normies realize what was going on between shadow and maria, it's only the faggots at sega of america that want to complicate the issue
kek
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Get back here and finish your thread /sthg/
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Marine
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>>566461561
there's no way that wasn't paid marketing
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Don't let krack cook her gay shit
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>>566472789
is the coolest!
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>>566461561
Shadria is the only REAL ship of this franchise they are literally based on Please Save My Earth and fuck those dishonest sonadow fujos trying to push the "problematic" angle to rip them apart
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>>566472991
this
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Maria is the only woman Shadow would ever love. If Shadow was tested with various options that aren't Maria, he wouldn't chose them. If Shadow was given a replacement Maria, he wouldn't chose her. It would have to be Maria herself. No Bulma analogues. No "Sort-of-like-Maria". No "I couldn't have Sonic so I'm going to have Shadow". Is that absurd to say?
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>>566471701
>Kiryu Kazuma and movie sonic
how would their dynamic be like?
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If Whisper was introduced in Archie she wouldn't be lame and gay. just gay
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>>566473264
Movie Sonic applying his knowledge of mafia movies to the Yakuza and annoying Kiryu by mixing the two up
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>>566472789
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>>566471984
kek what an embarrassment
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>>566473221
No, I agree with it 100%
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>>566473221
Amy should absolutely move on from Sonic though because sonamy just doesn't work as a real couple. It goes against Sonic's character and Amy is stuck in the cuck chair as he continues to have flings with every secondary protagonist of each new title. Make her a lesbian and her self-inserters will drop Sonic in a heartbeat. They want her to "win" and to do that she needs to be in a relationship that makes her not look like a loser. With Sonic she will always be a loser with her only redeeming trait that she won the sonicbowl. Put her with a woman that is cool and cute and they won't need her anymore.
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>>566473221
Swap Maria with Sally and yes, nail on the head
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>>566473754
ian...
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>>566473754
>need her
*need him aka Sonic
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>>566473754
Jesus dude
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>>566471873
>except there does seem to be an actual effort to erase her love of Sonic rather than her simply not bringing it up all the time based on what has been shown above. (going back to existing material to remove it? Really?)
Sega doesn’t even have the integrity to recall that 35th anniversary book and reprint it with Amy’s love for Sonic mentioned, which can easily be done. I hate Sega so much. I didn’t buy Sonic Frontiers, I didn’t buy Sonic x Shadow Generations, and I won’t be buying another Sonic game until Sega gets their act together and stops being negligent with Amy’s character. I’m voting with my wallet
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>>566473754
Amy is kinda stuck in the cuck chair desu. Sonic is a faggot.
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>>566473803
I like their flirtationship too but them being canon would actually ruin everything. Amy can still have her personality without forever chasing Sonic's ass. She'll always be fourth fiddle to Tails, K'nuckles, and New Character No. 888665442 that he falls in love with before dating goodbye at the end.
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>>566473754
She should be Shadow's wife
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Why did SOA think it would be better to erase Amy's history with chasing Sonic instead of making them a couple
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>>566473754
Bestieposter...
>They want her to "win" and to do that she needs to be in a relationship that makes her not look like a loser.
I just find this attitude weird. Even if i play into this weird "win" mentality around it, Amy doing that wouldn't be her "winning". I would and could only be her giving up and taking a consolation prize.
Amy "wins" by being respected enough by Sonic and co to trust her to go on adventures. She "wins" by proving the merit of her unwavering dedication and affection and her intuition. Her faith that things will work out. Those are all her "winning" but they aren't material so I guess people don't see the value in them. I guess people just want Amy to be Rouge.
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>>566473754
Anyone who gives a fuck about Sonic is a loser
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>>566474079
>dating
*saying. I'm going to bed. anyway sonamy is cute, it just shouldn't be canon. Imagine the Sonic actually being tied down. It would ruin his character.
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>>566474210
They're a bunch of woke retards
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>>566474241
>Amy "wins" by being respected enough by Sonic and co to trust her to go on adventures.
And she did it with no shit dialogue
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>>566474205
shadamy is het yuri so it could work
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>>566471701
I wanted to know how many clips of each character you got to find
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>>566474335
I mean. It is kinda pathetic pursuing a guy since you're literally a toddler and the most he has to offer is his blue ass running away.
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>>566474391
>shadamy is het yuri
So what is the het yaoi ship of Sonic?
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>>566474293
>Sonamy being canon would ruin his character
Only myopic normies believe this. They always say it would ruin Sonic's character but they never explain how and why
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>>566474241
I want Amy to be Amy and she won't be Amy if she gets with Sonic. She's done at least three "moving on" arcs for him alreasmdy, it's time to close that chapter for her.
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>>566474391
>shadamy is het yuri
huh?
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>>566474440
at least to amy it would be a nice view
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>>566474595
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>>566474460
He needs to be free and not tied down with a permanent romantic obligation. Amy likes Sonic because she can't have him. Putting them actually together limits Sonic's interactions with other characters too much and will inevitably stunt Amy's potential because that's what always happens to heroines picked by the MC.
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I want to spank Amy’s butt
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>>566474406
Rouge, Shadow, Maria, and Sally have a surplus because their actors have tons of work. Sara barely has any since her actress only worked on a handful of OVAs and I couldn't find much more without changing her voice. There's many I probably won't even use
https://files.catbox.moe/6dltdl.ogg
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>>566474473
I'm not even one of those that bitches and moans about them needing to get together. But the simple reality is Amy wants Sonic because Sonic offers her so much of what she wants. Regardless of if she gets with him or not. She doesn't chase him purely with the expectation of getting with him. She does it because she wants to and it drives her.
> She's done at least three "moving on" arcs for him alreasmdy
Which are you thinking of?
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>>566474460
What would Sonic getting married add to this series that wouldn't distract from his adventures?
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>>566474505
He's one of the girls.
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>>566474627
>Amy likes Sonic because she can't have him
This part is just made up.
I kind of agree with the rest. Once you make them a straight up couple, they stop being individual characters and become "an item" and now everything gets filtered through the relationship.
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>>566474668
Adventure 1, Adventure 2, Frontiers
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>>566474457
silvaze
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>>566474821
Neither SA1 or SA2 were about her moving on. I'm tired of this revisionism/misconception.
SA1 was about her not being a burden and being able to do things herself. SA2 was her learning she can help in her own particular way without needing others approval. it's why her bios emphasize her becoming an active girl rather than being passive.
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>>566474783
>This part is just made up.
Is it made up? If Sonic were all over her, I think she'd lose interest. His evasive indifference with occasional kernels of kindness is what fuels her desire. The chase is what she loves.
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Ohhhhh! I get it now. Amy doesn't love Sonic either, she loves sexually harassing Sonic.
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>>566474993
They're easily read as her moving on from her childish crush as well. Maybe her feelings weren't gone but she'd stop chasing him. That's why people were so disappointed when Heroes and Riders hit hard reset on all of her development. Then they overcorrected.
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>>566474993
>revisionism
Stop using this word
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>>566475138
Sonic often flirts back so I wouldn't call it that.
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>>566475283
When
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>>566475532
You don't think he's actually annoyed by her advances do you? It's all bantz
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>>566475727
He very clearly is. He doesn't hate her or anything, but he sees her as an annoyance in regular situations
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>>566475667
Noting valuable was lost when 4Kids cut this out
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>>566476006
Character was lost.
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>>566475196
>They're easily read as her moving on from her childish crush as well. Maybe her feelings weren't gone but she'd stop chasing him.
It's literally the opposite. She starts chasing him in those games.
It's only through revisionism that people insist its her stopping, then they say the following games regressed her when it isn't what the first game was doing.



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