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>Latest patch:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/04-30-2026-update.129989/

>Steam Page:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/

>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/

>How do I git in?
Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.

>How do I git gud?
Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.

Additional Resources:
>Unofficial Wiki
https://deadlock.wiki/
>Collection of useful character builds
https://deadlockmeta.com/
>New Player Guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/
>Advanced Movement Guide
https://www.dlmovement.wiki/
>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)
https://statlocker.gg/
https://tracklock.gg/
>Unofficial Competitive News
https://edl.gg/
>Unofficial Voiceline Viewer
https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/

Threadlocked: >>566470629
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I'm going to work up my courage and queue up for the normal mode as Billy
wish me luck
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parries = cheats
movement = cheats
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Silver.
And that other bitch, too.
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>>566564004
You forgot mods

Also masturbating before a match is also cheating

Esging too
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Silver is an SSS+ tier character
That's why I report all Silver players, they're basically cheating
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Mina Ha owes me sex for all the times I had to carry her braindead playerbase.
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next 6 new heroes when
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Who have you guys been banning?
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>>566564592
Apollo
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>be me
>watching tv
>hear loud noise
>look outside
>see intense lights on the sky
>it's a false vacuum scenario
>an explosion beyond any scientific understanding is coming towards Earth at superluminal speeds
>the entirety of existence is being destroyed
>oh shit I'm going to die
>remember my name is Calico
>say "I'll see you soon."
>walk away
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>>566564592
fat bastard dynamo
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>people are saying next major major update wont be until august

AAAAIIIIIIIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>566565417
Dynamo will be S+ tier until then :)
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Victor is the most braindead champion in the game, genuinely all you do is press W tank everything while dealing a ton of damage and if you ever die you get rewarded, i thought dynamo and ivy where bad but this guy takes the cake. No wonder he's a balancing nightmare
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Kill dash Infernus players. Behead dash Infernus players. Roundhouse kick a dash Infernus player into the concrete. Slam dunk a dash Infernus player into the trashcan. Crucify dash Infernus players. Defecate in a dash Infernus players mouth. Launch dash Infernus players into the Sun.
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gay sex with apollo!
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Kill dynamo players. Behead dynamo players. Roundhouse kick a dynamo player into the concrete. Slam dunk a dynamo player into the trashcan. Crucify dynamo players. Defecate in a dynamo players mouth. Launch dynamo players into the Sun.
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can yall reply to this with funny deadlock edits? thanks!
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>>566565573
>you get rewarded
you're seeing it as a reward rather than what it effectively is: victor just has double his health bar on a cooldown.
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i love victor
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>>566565573
the real problem with victor is that he's a "kite the fuck out of him/hurt yourself to hurt them more" character stuck in a game with hypermobility. He unironically would work a lot better in a game like Overwatch where there isn't an item store where he can just buy his weaknesses away, which to be fair, should be something that EVERY hero gets to do.
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>>566565797
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>>566564592
doorman, not to prevent him from being an opponent but to prevent him from being a worthless teammate
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>>566566017
cute gargoyle
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>>566565754
what if dynamo was a hot, barely legal girl like graves?
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I get why people play Dash Infernus. I won't do it, but I get why.
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>>566566394
then he'd be nerfed into the ground because valve is a bunch of baraloving homos
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Sex with Venator
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>force drifter out of lane
>mirage gets solo farm
>drifter earns more souls than us while healing at base
what
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This is what Yamato will look like once Deadlock enters open beta in 2028.
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>>566566467
so there's no losers, only winners in this scenario?
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>>566566440
his gun sucks and killing people with your diarrhea streak is funny
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>>566564508
They're saying the next major patch is in August now
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Deadlock: where the wins don't matter, and the points are made up.
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>>566566891
m1gger infernus is also broken bullshit
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>>566567014
It's almost a hard gamerule that no matter how hard you rape lane, one of your own lanes gets raped harder
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>>566564508
all of the leakers got BTFO by valve, so any answer you get is an estimate pulled straight out of someone's ass.
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>teammate get hit a few times and his HP drops to ~40%
>"ouchie! Owie! I need to go back to base and heal, because giving first blood will hurt my little ego! No, I will not buy greens."
>game turns into survival horror as I have to fend off two autistic faggots trying their hardest to towerdive and rape me
>teammate returns 3k souls behind and with our guardian almost dead
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This is what a Calico/Doorman lane feels like
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>>566564592
Turned that shit off. All it does is double the matchmaking timer.
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Every single Abrams player is the exact same person
There is no unique Abrams player they all share the same unfunny humor, NPC responses, and love feeding.
I used to think Dynamo was THE reddit character when Abrams was sitting in front of me this entire time.
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>he got shoulder charged and HEAVY'D so he came here to cry about it
kek
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>Do fine but sidelane completely fed enemy carry, lose all walkers before minute 20
>Retards complaining
>Buy magic carpet, mute game and just play reactively around team as I watch something on second monitor
>Somehow we stem the bleed
>Somehow I'm doing great in team fights
>Somehow we win
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>>566567917
more proof that magic carpet is a 99% winrate item and you are throwing by not buying
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>>566567019
At least it's harder to proc than any other gun proc in game (with exception of Holiday crackshot), which can make laning characters people with small hitboxes or passive players obnoxious
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>>566567750
LOLOLOLOL
No
You disgusting faggots just always feed my games and I'm sick of you
Play Billy or someone useful
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I really want to see more updates to the hideout
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>Enemy Victor calls for melee-only fight in lane
>Slap him around with Dynamo's huge cock
>He gets butthurt and leaves lane to feed mid lane and tries to act like we're mad
Talk shit, get hit
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>>566568069
It's a great item for reducing tilt because you avoid fed faggots diving you and whenever niggerfaggot team takes a bad fight you can just fly away.
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inhouse cause we still don't have a casual mode
Q1SM4
Q1SM4
Q1SM4
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>teammate whines about gettinf ganked in a game where no one dies to ganks
>tell them to buy wards
>refuse to elaborate
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>actually seething
oh ononononononono!
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I love vagueposting
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Everyone knows who he was talking about thoughever
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Wallbreaker Victor might just be peak retardation
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>>566568930
You talk like a redditor
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>>566564040
where? I don't see mina in the pic
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>>566564508
June
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>>566564592
Holiday. People aimbot with her and her movement is so fucking annoying to deal with
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>>566569505
The next coombait vampire is going to be named June.
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item prices should adjust in realtime according to winrates
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>>566570101
>moba but there is an in-game stock market that fluctuates according to how the teams are performing and influences item prices
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>>566570101
>Press to buy 2400 knockdown while I have an extra 1600 souls on me
>Accidentally spend 4000 right as I click because of volatile markets
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>>566570101
>>566570527
>>566570792
This should unironically be a hero passive someday.
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>Random flash sale event in game
>But in order to buy the random 50% off item you have to haggle in the enemy secret shop for 10 seconds
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Add a Jewish hero already
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>Playing Vindictia
>Press 2
>Mina finds you
>Presses 4
>Instant death
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They need to add a cat girl to deadlock
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imagine NOT being able to psychologically rape abrams players just by pressing one key
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>>566571631
I would love an Egyptian catgirl
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>>566571938
>>566571631
Calico should have been a brown catgirl
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This fucking nigger game keeps putting me in unwinnable team compositions again.
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>>566572000
>Brown Egyptian style catgirl
The Jews could never allow this
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>>566571631
I'm so happy they're actually real
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I'm trying to crawl my way out of Emissary and I just don't know what I'm doing any more
>Always have shit player/objective damage because I'm trying to protect walkers while everyone else picks weird fights and broooools
>Can't contribute to fights when I'm there because I'm trying not to put myself in a spot where the enemy can just gangbang me
>Can't farm as effectively as the fuckers who somehow pull thousands of extra souls out of their ass in two minutes
I don't know if it's a team issue any more or if I have to just stop being a pussy and pick more fights
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>>566564592
Warden, but only when I'm not playing Warden
he is such a goddamn threat in pisslow, almost none of my pisslow teammates know how to properly deal with that fuck once he gets a lead on us
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Im so glad valve eviscerated all tge leakcucks but at the same time havinf zero clue what or when the next update will be is fucking awful
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>>566565619
didn't they giganerf this nigga or is he still hitler somehow
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>>566572386
It depends on who you're playing but at that rank it's hardly worth obsessing about walkers since players don't give a shit for the most part, just defend blue walker and pivot to fights you deem realistic.
I'm just a phantom shitter but developing a good feel for what is a good or bad fight is a skill, who has ults, are enemy players joining soon, what's the hp, what are the itemization.
If it's before minute 20 death timers aren't too long.
Generally speaking if a team fight begins you have four choices, join, splitpush, run urn or damage control, afking around a friendly walker is not a choice.
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>>566572731
can't have your cake and eat it too
you either get some idea of when the next update drops, or no idea at all; you can't have both
I honestly don't know why valve is doing this anyhow, since it's clear that development for this game is being pushed like crazy by the devs
all the leaks do is generate free hype for them; none of the development assets that do get leaked are set in stone either, so it's not like the surprise is being ruined or something
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>>566572796
He's not giganerfed but dashniggery is less impactful and lifesteal items also got a slight nerf across the board.
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>>566572187
The WEF will make them real and give them to every sensitive young man who returns from invading Iran/Russia.

50 acres and a catgirl wife.
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>>566570843
>hero passive that fucks with item prices for all teams
this sounds cancerous, unless the passive only applied to the hero itself and not their own team, or the enemy team
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>>566571339
He already exists?
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sexy dog (dog) hero soon
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>>566564592
none because it makes queue times much longer
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>>566573112
>>566572731

We legit need another deathy-tier leak shitshow
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> enemy team gets lash, dynamo, AND seven
> it is now impossible to contest any obj

Good game design yoshi you fucking nigger
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>>566573292
>Constant manual labor
>Not talkative
>Loyal to his friends
>Hate the feds
No Jewish, Rem fits better
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>>566573562
3/4 are Jewish traits, also your forgetting
>tunnels under buildings in New York
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Hmm Lomein says doorman is the best character in the game right now.
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>>566564592
Silver
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>>566573458
What is the theoretically, the most absolutely fucked up cast of enemy team characters you can be pitted against in a round? Who are the six whorsemen of the Deadlock apocalypse?
Mine are,
>Warden, Dynamo, Seven, Venator, Kelvin, Shiv
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>>566573678
A Jew will talk your ear off, hate working with their hands and are literally the feds, you could argue tribe loyalty applies but Krill is inter-species. Tunnel Jews is correct tho
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>>566573857
Replace Shiv with doorman
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i want to have sex with victor and doorman while i fuck victor and the doorman fucks me
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>>566574587
you forgot your >
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>>566574730
>i want to have sex with victor and doorman while i fuck victor and the doorman fucks me
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>>566573292
Aren't they supposed to be essentially italian-americans?
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>>566575052
That's what I figured
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just checked the download statistics of this mod and saw that the most downloaded ones were the tranny and agp tranny flags
it's really true what all the silver haters say. god i hate troons so fucking much
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>>566575163
Why are you looking that up?
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>>566575163
not saying she isn't but your data is useless if it doesn't include straight flags or something like that, of course the gay mod was downloaded by gays, wtf
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Buying tankbuster should be a bannable offense
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deadlock without leaks SUCKS
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>>566575163
why do you care
whocars
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>>566575295
Straggots like myself don't download this because our sexuality is normal. Even if it existed we wouldn't download it.
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wherever i am i must quick buy rapid rounds
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>>566575295
if straights cared enough or existed they would've already made a flag/mod for themselves

>>566575228
>>566575586
kys 41% cocksucking groomer trannies
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>>566564000
it went bad. really really really bad. I guess no one wished me luck.
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>>566575364
did someone get tankbusted in their last game, champ?
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>>566575364
>buying an overpowered item should be a bannable offense
lmao keep seething
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>>566576215
Could be worse. You could have had infernus' statline. I'm sorry for your loss but I am glad to see another infernus get pimpslapped down some ranking, after the dashfernus arc I'm fine with shaking out all the boosted bonobos playing him
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>>566576186
Even if someone made that mod someone on Nexus would flag it and delete it within the week.
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>>566576186
>kys 41% cocksucking groomer trannies
if you hate troons so much why do you let them live in your head rent-free
if you truly despise them that much, why not let go of your fixation for them? your hatred is a fixation nonetheless, and makes you no better than someone who loves and fixates on troon culture
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>>566575163
Don't care
Still love my wife Silver (heterosexual (not troon))
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>>566576186
I have that mod and the one that gives silver a huge red doggy cock, cry pussy
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why can Lash and Holliday cancel Dynamo's blackhole but not Paradox swap?
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>>566576215
>billy into victor/viscous and mina
Game was decided before you even spawned in
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>>566576504
swap is just moving them, holiday and lash ults are stuns
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Tranny just typed some degenerate shit in my match
Said and did nothing because some faggot in /dlg/ said caring about anything makes me a loser
Oh no wait, I threw the match X3
Oops!
Whoopsie!
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Trying to play Miku for the first time. Is this a bad patch for her or is she always this weak? Why do both summoner characters have summons that die instantly to one aoe ability? Compared to the tf2 engineer, it's so lame.
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>>566576987
that means you lost
you're shit lol
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>>566576409
white calico mod was allowed though

>>566576413
i would take your concern seriously if every other silver player's in-game name wasn't "gock goddess" and "puppy tgirl"
you just sound mentally ill defending actual pedophiles under the guise of playing muh redditor's advocate, tranny
just say you like dog dick in your ass next time like the other anon
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Can yoshi please tell us when the next big update mught be coming
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>>566577273
I guess your ally is shit too then huh
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>>566577340
in 10 minutes get ready
t. yoshi
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>>566577290
>I'd take what you're saying into consideration if I wasn't so mentally ill about troons!
just be honest next time anon
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>>566577340
tuesday
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>>566577464
>being against trannies/pedophilia/zoophilia is mental illness
gave yourself away tgirl lillith
gg ez no re
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Any reason to play Venator over Warden this patch
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>>566578352
He's cooler
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>>566578352
OI FEAR NUHTHIN
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>>566578352
venator is better if you can aim
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>>566578328
whatever helps you sleep at night ig
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>>566578352
He's hotter
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>>566575163
Every time I see someone playing Silver their name is some shit like Lilith or Holliday Screaming Crying Bleeding Taking Silver's Knot <3
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>>566578917
holy based
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>>566578917
Wouldn't it grow back? Do Deadlock vampires have regeneration?
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>>566566528
Apparently, there's a soul glitch going around right now.
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>>566578352
A taste, OF WHAT AWAITS THEM!
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>>566576215
I never want to fucking play normal mode ever again jesus christ. I'm still trying to learn billy why the fuck am I put in these lobbies designed to fucking steamroll me. I can't even get a fucking kill for fucks sake.
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>>566578917
it was long gone by the time she turned
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bros.... I'm almost there wait for me in the big leagues...
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>wraith has 2000 to 2500 souls a minute all game
I can't tell what she was doing special. She was just killing camps, not even that fast, and hitting waves.
No trophey collector.
No cult sacrifice.
Got fed a couple kills early and had a good lane but damn, I don't usually manage to farm that fast. She hit 80k when people were barely reaching 40k.
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>>566578917
do you think drifter rapes?
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>>566580161
lol kill yourself fag
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>>566578917
The Viscount already broke Mina's hymen (she was promised a promotion but he never delivered lol)
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>>566580281
Souls by source graph?
Maybe she got a lot more playerkill souls than you think
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>>566580401
yes, both men and women
that's why he's easily the most canon gay hero in the game
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>>566577197
get lots of range and play your turrets on the high ground all spread out.
never commit to a fight and just be a pest, that's all you can really do.
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>>566580161
If it makes you feel any better. It looks like your entire team except for seven and maybe drifter were having the same bad experience.
>Billy into Geist and Mikugin
Bro fucking change your lane why would you fight that lane
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>>566580401
He's the Drifter, not the Raper
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>>566573763
It happens every time dude. Everyone lost max HP so bells are back to actually being good and guess what, everyone hates Doorman again. He's definetly getting nerfed (again) because Doorman apparently can only ever cart people into walkers for kills, anything else is forbidden
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>>566579045
>Do Deadlock vampires have regeneration?
that's werewolfs
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>>566580845
50% trooper.
25% neutral.
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Is Warden viable?
I want to play a character that doesn’t have a hard counter
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>>566581786
yes
generally speaking m1 carries don't have hard counters
really very few heroes do, usually you're just obligated to buy dispel magic and spirit heroes tend to fall off late game
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>>566579045
>Deadlock vampires have regeneration?
They actually implemented this into their abilities. Mina heals from killing using her 1. Drifter gets heals from killing with his T2 bloodscent. I assume they only regenerate if they suck blood.
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>>566576987
BBBBBASED!!!
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>>566580161
that build is dogshit
anyone that doesn't heavy melee on billy is just going to lose
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>>566580161
heavy melee billy is so fucking ass, man. just build him gun and light melee every once in a while
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>>566578352
He has more aura and is honest
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>>566583105
Warden is also honest
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>>566582775
>>566583030
The true answer is to not play Billy because he like Abrams can get easily hard countered. Play Victor so you at least have an extra life to play with
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>>566583030
that's the cuck build
you aren't a man if you don't play heavy melee billy
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>>566580954
>Me sitting in lane shooting all the turrets ginnis puts up for 20 mins and get a 10k lead
Gotta like turret tards, give me those free souls.
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>>566583264
>*runs my undetectable auto parry script*
Thanks for the free souls!
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Silences should silence parries.
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>>566583616
Parries should inflict slowdown and slower melee speed for a bit instead of stun
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So what exactly happens if you put only one hero high priority and nothing else not even priority?
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>>566573763
Pros in this game will always want a certain character nerfed, no matter how strong they actually are in practice.
>DUDE [INSERT CHARACTER] IS THE BEST CHARACTER IN THE GAME, LITERAL Z TIER. IT'S NOT EVEN CLOSE. LITERALLY WORSE THAN EPSTEIN
Eternus "pro" level players do this shit where they astroturf with their fans and manufacture some fuck-ass narrative; pushing for nerfs, buffs, or downplaying how strong a character is to keep them safe from changes. It's ludicrously unhealthy for the game's meta to propagandize a blacklist that keeps OP characters off the chopping block, no matter which way you spin it.
I get that gimmick characters can be extremely annoying, but fuck me, do we really have to do this psyop CIA shit every time a Seven nerf or a Silver buff is looming around the corner?
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>>566583379
id bait your parry and smash you
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>>566583819
You probably get that hero, unless they're highly contested/often banned then you get longer queue times and maybe don't get that hero still.
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>>566583379
>runs my undetectable parry bait script
dumbauss. git FUARKED MAETE
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I have lost 5 matches in a row.
Why does this game hate me
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>>566564592
Nobody because my middle mouse button is broken and it won't let me rebind it. Otherwise, it'd be Apollo.
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>>566583379
I report everybody who parries for cheating
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can anyone even casually play this game
like actually, 'cause most of my friends just do brool and refuse to touch the main gamemode with a 50ft pole
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>>566584247
I do and it's become my before bed game. It's pretty comfy to wind down to especially playing support.
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every single character that gets extra damage passively needs to be reworked or removed entirely. what, they just held m1 harder than me so they get an extra 100%+ damage for free?
>just buy debuff remover!
this would be an effective counter if these abilities were not passive. the moments before, during and after using debuff remover guess what they're doing? holding m1 on you. and guess what applies the passive? yeah, holding m1. you countered them for all of 2 seconds. your only other option is buying the armor of RNG for 6.4k. extremely unbalanced and honestly lazy as fuck game design.
the single exception to this is mina, since she does basically 0 gun damage. but all the other passive niggers deal gun damage just fine and just get even more free damage on top of it
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>>566584114
you need a script to move your mouse 90 degrees?
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every black person ive met on this game plays infernus/wraith/rem. i guess representation does matter
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>>566584340
>t.
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>>566584372
yeah I run it in conjunction with my macro rape script
works wonders for destroying the enemies' mental, especially when they're also scripting
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rem isn't black he's jewish
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>>566584247
Nope. Unless you’re an Eternus Smurf then the lower ranks are overrun. The main gamemode is designed to be long and infuriating.
Play Brool
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the sinner's sacrifices was promised to him 3000 years ago
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niggas be like "why am i not dealing damage" then i press tab and he does not have 4.8k
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Where are the Silver buffs
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rem isn't black, he's a space mexican
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>Only person in my friendgroup that really plays Haze all that often and the only one that does well with her
>Slightest tangential mention of her gets them seething
>We're losing to a team with Haze and they start joking about me seeing what it feels like when I literally hadn't even died to her
>Multiple times where they fed the hell out of a Haze and kept warning me about fighting her like she's invincible only to get shocked when I win
I don't get it, dude. It feels like no other character sparks such asshurt from them.
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How do you not get so demoralized when you’re having a bad time in match
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Yamato should get gun buffs.
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>>566584352
This is always the most mindless complaint I see. Just clearly blind bitching about something you lost to with no real thought done about why it's really an issue other than you looking for a reason to be upset or any consideration for what would actually change if it was removed.
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there is no better feeling than throwing a winning game on your smurf because your teammate misplayed
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>>566585094
>vtumor
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Just played some Billy, character is really fun and he's so cool, also this item is the most retarded shit ever. The risk to reward ratio is utterly fucked when the enemy buys this, it couldn't be more unfair. It's actually an afterthought of an item and whoever added it should receive 100 lashes to their flayed back
YOSHI MAKE PARRY ATTEMPTS COST STAMINA YOU FUCKING FAGGOT I'M SICK OF PEOPLE PARRYING RANDOMLY THEN JUST JUMPING OR DASHING AWAY AFTER
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>>566585185
yes. as you may have guess i have SEVERE mental illness
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>>566585050
No argument? Concession accepted.
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WHAT DO I BUY AAAAAAHHHHHH
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>>566585094
Rabbit hero when?
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>>566585747
Never because Sinclair exists
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>>566585636
u can always buy refresher use it and sell it again and rebuy an iem
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Valve should add some foxes to deadlock as playable heroes.
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>>566585747
*turns you into a bnuuy*
You were the rabbit hero all along
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>rank 1 victor players so mindbroken he's just throwing games playing spirit drifter now
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>>566586015
no, go away furfag/naorpoled
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give me all the farm, I have a game to lose
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>haze is cuming for us
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>>566586015
this but they should be sexy literal 4 legged foxes
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>>566549516
Bolt can be easily accommodated but you may have to delay unstop and other greens for ultbot Sinclair.
Bolt doesn't require that much investment (that you wouldn't already get on an ultbot build) and it already starts chunking people and walkers.
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>>566575163
Silver's only gooner mod is shit
The model was made by a really talented guy (same guy who did bunny graves) but someone else did the rigging (braindead retard)
Especially the legs they're clippy af
I just run green jacket
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>>566586118
zzerial is such a little bitch all he does is complain about victor
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Yo who fed Silver?
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>>566586972
Seriously which one of you went 0/6 in lane against Silver? Fess up
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>>566564592
Fernus. Is he still cancer? I've had him banned since forever.
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>>566587113
he's a throw pick now
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>>566587179
Proof?
>inb4 "muh win rate"
Remember to actually articulate why he's bad
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>>566573857
>>566573458
Lash
Dynamo
Seven
Abrams
Yamato
Infernus

I call it the "we can't do midboss X is alive" comp.
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do you think when yakub invented white people he would believe they would invent games like deadlock 500 years later
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>split push to get some pressure off the lanes
>5 enemies jump me
>try to hold them off as long as I can
>1v5 for almost an entire minute, perhaps more
>they burn all their ultimates on me
>die
>at least my team must have accomplished something in the meantime
>look at map
>0 objectives done
>urn still in place despite being in our favor
>midboss untouched
>enemy team mops up the following teamfight without ultimates
>lose
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>>566587341
he literally taught them to have fag sex with each other, so deadlock wouldn't be far off.
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>>566587310
damage numbers are simply too low. a seven or wraith with equal souls can output 1.5x the damage so he just dies. also ult is shit
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Another loss to a level 0 account with perfect aim.
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>>566587341
Deadlock and mobas in general are just videogame implementations of tricknology.
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>>566587419
>better push into enemy territory when 5 enemies are missing!
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i really like playing doorman, are there any other characters that function similarly?
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Another game of Mina raping everyone because counter items against her don't do shit.
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My face when the negroid faggot braindead Silver player jumps me while I'm fed, deals scratch damage while I'm melting her hp and she realizes it is I that will be doing the raping, not her.
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BLEED
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can't wait til they release heros that obscure your vision, swap your controls, and cause screen shake
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WHEN ARE THEY NERFING THE HEROES THAT FLY AROUND THE FUCKING MAP?

What is the POINT of parkour if you have niggers that just ignore that mechanic and start no clipping?
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>>566587341
>Deadlock is full of trannies
It's the final pinnacle of Yaqub's achievements
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>>566588307
Remove movement
It's nothing but bug exploits
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>>566587913
Just had a match with a fishy Mina, she ended the game with a RIDICULOUS amount of souls by the end of the game. When the match started she was afk for a while, then I barely ever saw her after. So either she spent all match doing nothing but farming to the detriment of her team, or she's running some subtle hacks to gain souls.
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eded to bloo
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>>566585636
>glass cannon on a spirit build
what character is this
holliday?
also before they patched it you could've bought and sold the egg 9001 times to get 10k max hp, +300% weapon damage and firerate and 10sec ult cooldown
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Haze is Missing
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>>566588925
>also before they patched it you could've bought and sold the egg 9001 times to get 10k max hp, +300% weapon damage and firerate and 10sec ult cooldown
I never did this because it's dishonest
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>>566588307
Honestly I'm more annoyed by Celeste and Mina's existence
>Here's two perfectly functional heroes
>BUT
>They get extra mobility (just because)
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>>566589097
buying items at all is dishonest
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>>566589132
need to appeal to the trans movement crowd somehow. especially because they're usually wealthy techbros and because they can't have kids they have lots of money to spend on skins
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>>566588925
>holliday
nice character knowledge. yeah, I like glass cannon as my 4th~ t4. best way for a utility character to make their gun go from a prop to a real option
>egg spam
I miss it. I bet that they added the grace period to eating egg because you could spam buy -> eat rather than to protect people from accidentally popping it
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>good movement is trans all of a sudden
you guys really just say the randomest shit imaginable.
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>>566589536
the movementschizo has been here for like a long time now
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>>566589536
because it is? autism shit like speedrunning/movement/aim training is all dominated by trans
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>>566560349
i'm glad this image still gets posted from time to time
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Sorry, guys. We lost the draft. I have her as my least prio...
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>slowing Hex
Mina bats the projectile
>Knockdown
Mina bats the anvil
>Curse
She can still bat through the projectile

All while having access to Etherial Shift and dispel magic. REMOVE THIS NIGGER HERO
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>>566589536
>ambush someone fair and square
>they do the yonky sploinky dibbles double walljump hop rollout and fuck off at mach 50 (they have no speed or stamina items)
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>>566589752
I associate gunz with asian handcams
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>>566589875
wait til you meet a good pocket
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>>566589951
>he doesn't know MODERN gunz base is full of zoomer trannies (including asian trannies)
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>>566587518
Your Afterburn? Your Toxic bullets? Your Flame dash into ult?
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>>566589236
Get ricochet instead
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>>566589930
>Bring no hard cc
>Cry when they get out with good skill based movement
Retire or become my sissy paige duo unc gamer dad.
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>Game lets you wall bounce and zip around
>lets give these high DPS niggers super movement as well
>fuck just make them tanky too
KILL YOURSELF YOSHI
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how do you deal with the shame of explaining what deadlock is to your friends when they ask what you do 12 hours every day?
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>>566588307
You just shoot them or use Knockdown. Now Celeste on the other hand...
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>>566590160
>afterburn
Dispelled.
>toxic bullets
Bought by Seven. (Nothing stopping you from buying it on wraith either.)
>flame dash
Nerfed.
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>>566589752
troons are autistic <- reasonable observation
Therefore autism is troon owned <- retarded logic
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ngr i had to explain deadlock to gay tops on grindr. you can deal with that pussy ass being unemployed shame just fine.
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>>566590446
no one asked you alcoholic tranny. absolutely disgusting, hope you catch aids and then promptly blow your skull to bits
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>>566590256
>dispelled
just repoc it with more fire rate
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>>566590256
>>566587179
Come to think of it ever since I started paying the dispel magic tax Infernus has been a wet noodle for most of my games. Maybe I should ban someone else now. Dynamo I guess.
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>>566590256
>>566590582
I accept your concession Arcanistbro.
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this is what warden mains eat every day
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I'm drunk and masturbating to victor rn just wanted to let everyone know
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>>566590527
i accept your concession unemployed retardbro.
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Billy should get a free parry piercing melee attack when he uses blasted
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Post
>Your main
>Your sexuality
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>>566590773
At least post Victor
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>>566591061
Silver and Billy.
Straight and racist.
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>>566591061
silver
zoosexual
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>how interesting or fun is this item?
>extra health
why do they even have these retarded questions? what the fuck do you even want me to say, yes, +200 health is SO fun! or maybe no, +200 health is SO boring! its not like they even give a fuck about non-streamers opinions anyway. might as well ask me to use a point on a color wheel as to how I feel about the game
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>>566590446
were they at least hung
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There is no way this retarded playing without some sort of lock-in aimbot.
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What are the different roles in deadlock when it comes to matchmaking and which heroes are considered which
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>>566591720
he has split shot retard
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>>566591870
just wait a few months and there will be specific strict roles outlined in game they're already setting up for it
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guys... I can't stop playing gun Lash it's too fun
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>>566591870
There aren't any concrete ones, and the retarded Overwatch gremlins begging for role queue are retarded
Is Abrams a "tank"? Sure, but he can also buy a stealth item and invisibly jump niggas with a charge and do 2000 unavoidable damage and that's not really "tank" that's more of an assassin.
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deadlock has decided to send me the dumbest fucking venator at arcanist 6, to test my faith in The Lord
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>lane against bebop and wraith
why did i even bother queuing
i would rather go to sleep and wake up for work than keep play this fuck ass lane
wow hook into wraith ult for a free kill 4 times in lane kill yourself
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>Lane partner fails to secure a kill on a 1 HP abrahms
>Instead of getting angry, I just feed mid until the game ends.
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>>566592695
yesterday i had to deal with something similar too
it was holiday ult into dynamo ult
genuinely how do you expect me to counter this 10 minutes into a match
with the trophy collector changes matches snowball so much worse now it's like i just lose on draft
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ToBQY630PZE
how it feels to play honest gun rem
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>>566591959
So it's enough to buy this item and win every time with this score?
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https://forums.playdeadlock.com/forums/team-composition-reports.238/

>yoshi makes a forum just for team composition reports
>2 pages of the same white tranny mutt running defense for this garbage match making.
White tranny fatigue.
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>>566564592
Apollo.
Fuck that stupid red twink, I hate him so much
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>>566592931
If you're smurfing against retards then absolutely.
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>>566593095
who
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>>566593516
idk, i just despise white people.
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>>566594126
based
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>>566594126
>>566594204
>t.tranniggers
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>>566577197
build ult, if they cant stun you you just kill them for free
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the new halo BR will RAPE this game
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Anyone wanna q wit Reiko
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>>566594968
who?
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>>566590446
That is just precious
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>>566594968
huh?
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>Venator is allowed to be strong for 1 month
>Mina, Celeste and Wraith can still exist as they are
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>reeee buff graves
>reeeeeeee buff silver
How about we talk about ACTUAL characters that people ACTUALLY care about, how do we fix bebop?
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>>566577290
Strangely, I never see anyone with those names in ranks above phantom
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>>566595128
2 guaranteed true damage heavy melees were a nightmare to balance, same with his old ult that could one shot heroes at full health, i know he needs buffs but His kit having true damage and negating all resistance makes it awkward to balance.
How do you think they should buff him without bringing back the shard shotgun build and the one shot ult build?
>Mina, Celeste and Wraith
Wraith's ult needs a nerf
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>>566595128
The only change I would make to Mina is to give her ult's silence buildup. I think she's in a good spot otherwise. Don't play Wraith or Celeste, don't care.
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Is Echo Shard door a gimmick?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8AZyQIfs5fg
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>>566595128
The secret test club clearly has their favorites and much like streamers, they downplay their waifus and screech at any nerf they receive as if it was the end of the world.
Which is why they only get slaps on the wrist nerfs that don't address the issue and a bunch of compensation buffs that make them even stronger.
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>>566595696
and I mean the portal doors not shard cart
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>>566595339
the one shot build was a bug though and it was patched within a day
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>>566595128
Venator is the best M1gger in the current state of the game. Skill issue.
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>>566595696
Those clips are pretty insane. To answer your question, it's a gimmick but if it works for you then why stop
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>>566564592
Victor always and forever since the moment banning was added
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>>566596249
Idk i think wraith is better since she has infinite ammo, a free get out of jail card(pun not intended), a point and click ult that is basically a death sentence, and the most spammable(1 second CD lmao) brust charge ability in the game with a ton of effects. Genuinely as wraith never use cards unless you charge up 6 cards, and then just brust them point blank on someone.
>venator
I personally think he's fine, but his WR is low so people who think he's bad need to explain what's the deal
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>tfw when play kidnap doorman
>tfw when lose most of my games
>tfw when having fun anyways from the salt I mine doing it

also learning alot of doorman tech on the side which is cool but damn if spending some time playing doorman will show you why hes considered the buggiest hero
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Venator is the new S tier despite being 45% winrate hero, Silver is no longer S tier.
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i wonder why cheaters play vinny instead of venator
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>>566596759
>>566597054
Seeker-kun...
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>>566564592
niggernus
I still get him in every single game
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winrates make me feel like a schizo
venator being 45% wr is some crazy shit considering how strong he feels
and how consistent my results have been so far
shit don't make sense
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why do people even play paradox? just gooners? her kit is so fucking bad and not even fun
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>>566597325
Same, also Grey talon.
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>>566597325
phantom is shitlow so no shit you can do well with him there
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>>566597325
>145 denies in 66 games
>phantom
Grim.
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>>566597557
yo this faggot aims for balls
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>have an even game that lasted 50 minutes but was fun throughout even though we lost

why cant I have more games like this instead of 20-30 minute one sided rapefests?
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>>566597064
Why is graves wearing haze's clothes?
>>566597386
>why do people even play paradox?
Idk, i like the bomb build in brawl desu
>her kit is so fucking bad and not even fun
The problem imo is that 1)her kit is very disjointed and 2) it's very weak for what it's intended to do
>you have to put a wall, charge a shot and land it then land the ult on the slowed target to swap+silence them
Mina can silence way more easily and she deals a metric ton of damage while silencing, worse yet the swap is negated by 1 or 2 dashes, it's fine but clearly outdated when compared to shit like mina's and apollo's ult, i don't even mind that's a high skill high utility ult but make it do something more substantial like holliday's
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>>566597557
Denying is so dogshit in this game. It's so ping dependent compared to last-hitting in top-down mobas.
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>>566597756
i thought you get like 100ms grace period to fix this?
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>>566597557
tbf there's a pretty wide window where secures are favored over denies. something like 120-140ms. like as venator you can't be denied your own souls, period, if you're actively trying to claim them
but yeah i have a bad(?) habit of not applying enough deny pressure, focusing more on shooting them while they secure orb

>>566597490
trvke....
but wait... isn't it the e6 streamer cabal that says he's good? argh... my head... it hurts... nnnngh....
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Do retards not know disarming hex exists?
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they should remove graves 3 passive and her auto aim beam and jusy make her gun throw/shoot orbs instead and make her 3 a ghoul summon ability
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>>566597747
how to fix paradox ult, it now retains and builds your momentum from when you swapped. so it can now be used as an escape tool
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>>566597064
where do i get this
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people in e1-e3 don't even know what bridge buffs and midboss are. since this game has inflationary mmr like marvel rivals anyone can get to eternus by just playing 2000+ hours
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>>566597953
It instantly got nuked off gamebanana
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>>566597557
Denying gets harder as you rank up because people start actually shooting their orbs, of course you have a lot of denies playing at seeker
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>>566598079
nah all you do is wait til midgame and for a spiritnigger to nuke a wave with their ability while pushing and deny all those souls for a free +200
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Anyone got a klu klux klan Rem?
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>>566598002
keep telling yourself that initiate
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>>566598427
People are on top of bridge buffs every single game I play and there's often small skirmishes over them, I swear seeker larpers just post shit
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>>566598041
its on the deadlock mod manager still thank god
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>>566597054
I wonder why they play Vindicta instead of Holliday, hitting all crackshots is far more devastating than hitting assassinates.
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>>566599039
Infinite scaling
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How are you supposed to play Silver into Kelvin
I know she's good but she feels bad when you're put into domes on CD
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>>566599330
people don't play silver because they want to win, people play her because they're trannies who gain sexual pleasure from losing and being dominated
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>>566599330
>I know she's good
lol
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>When you get the good team for once

Holy fuck I felt bad for the enemy, Holliday was absolutely wreaking havoc on them
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>>566599039
crackshot scales around to 250-300dmg and her gun has slow firerate, sure she wouldn't be the worst character to aimbot with but vindicta and other top m1s outdps her if aimbotting
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>>566599330
>How are you supposed to play Silver when you're forced into an inclosed space where you can stack your buff
Unironically what's the problem? Can't you deal enough damage or are you behind in souls/build? I feel like that's exactly where she wants to be and from the few times I've seen Silver put in the dome she always did well regardless of if it was her team's dome or the enemy's
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>>566599330
Antiheal and beat him to death, phantom strike to catch him on his gay trail.
>>566599369
Speaking from first hand experience, trannoid?
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>>566599531
Just end the match faggot, put them out of their misery
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>>566599526
Skill issue
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>>566599643
yt mad
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>>566599679
I must've spent at least 70% of the match pissing about in Jungle and shoving lane waves. Died twice forcing the last two walkers but it was absolutely worth it considering we had walkers down at 10, 14 and 16 minutes.

At the same time shit like this isn't fun, it literally is steamrolls one way or the other nowadays.

This match was also entirely dictated by Holliday. If she and Venator swapped we would've lost.
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>>566599643
its a dive/melee frontliner against a peel support that domes his carries
how are you beating him to death in a 2v1 dome?
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>>566599280
>>566599568
Cheaters played Vindicta way before her ult changes.
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>>566599992
Forgot Image
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>>566600023
Disarm and they're locked in with you.
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>>566600120
>three players with double digit building damage
Shitlow...
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>>566600062
big part of it is also because vindicta cheaters most likely are coming from CS, where autosniper and scout (another sniper) are THE 2 weapons of choice for rage aimbotting.
tf2, another valve game, has the sniper class which is the cheater's class of choice.
so for cheaters in deadlock, they see queueing vindicta as essentially same as buying scar20 or g3sg1 and headshotting everyone through double doors/cache garage 10 seconds into the round
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>>566598079
Lit projection
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>>566600062
Vindicta still had better DPS than holliday with headshots + flight
Also the old ult was even better for cheating since you would get more souls, scale faster and end the game faster.
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>>566600619
I accept your concession.
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>victor 55% winrate in eternus
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bsW59BvB0lA
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>>566600703
What
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>>566595031
Guy named Devin Sivo from Rhode Island
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>>566600732
He's D tier, just buy counter items
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>>566600732
He feels absolutely retardedly easy to play this patch and you pretty much set the pace for the game when you get your ulti levels up. Easiest hero to climb with imo.
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>>566581657
t. normal retard that doesn't know anything about the supernatural
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>>566600732
I will continue to queue Victor for free wins until they give Abrams his gun damage back and let me pop 800 damage headshots again.
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>>566578917
Dynamo looks scared
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>>566600732
He's braindead literally and figuratively, just press W and win
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Help how do I counter gun Victor
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>>566589850
It's over
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>>566601118
Ward his jungle
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>>566601118
have at least half a functional brain
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>>566601118
Idk I've never seen a gun victor
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>LE AUTO AIM NOOOO ITS ERM UNFAIR
>disarm graves
>she looks on in terror as you just blow her the fuck away because she can LITERALLY do nothing if you do that
everyone who complains about the auto aim are shitters
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>>566601118
Wait for him to go off solo and kill him
If he's not retarded and starts playing with his team after taking walkers there's no counter
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>>566600732
>Gut spirit victor
>People realize that his gun is OP when paired with his ult
I don't even mind the incoming nerfs, this shit is so soul-less
Make him a pure spirit carry yoshi for the love of god.
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>>566600761
Ignore the schizo
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>>566601265
I don't even play gun I just get 4.8k with spirit rend + opening rounds because more shred is gooder.
I've been thinking of dropping opening rounds as well but I think the weapon damage is worth it for objectives.
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>light melee is instant
>parry is instant
Give parry a slight delay and parryscripting is dead
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>>566601212
*buys dispel*
what now, chud?
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Is Geist the only actual mom on the roster? wtf
There's some serious under-representation here
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>>566565151
>false vacuum
read something new today
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>>566602060
calico
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>>566602060
Calico, too.
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>>566602060
Doesn't Holliday have kids too?
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>>566563897
Anyone else feel like the mobility meta is getting out of hand? In higher elos everyone picks the high mobility heroes, basically just throw, but can never die because they can press the guaranteed escape buttons. I feel like micro barely even matters anymore because everyone always just runs away at 100hp. Kills are not a viable source of lead anymore and it turns into stardew valley farming simulator for the souls.
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>>566602103
>>566602116
I actually didn't know that, where's that said?
>>566602120
All we know that she's got (to my knowledge) is multiple failed marriages and a wish to not have kids
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>>566602237
Some desperation line, I think.
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>>566602215
They need to fix the movement bugs and make slows more effective
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Why does parry even need to exist? As if melee was the true menace of this game and you couldn't melt like 2k hp away with one ability press on some characters. If you're going to design melee characters, you have to know the playstyle is inherently higher risk than either guns or spirit, so why not let them have guaranteed effectiveness at short range? Already this game is so insanely fast and everyone is very mobile with items or even has invulnerability/dashes/teleports.
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melee is to spice up laning phase
everything past that is superfluous to its design
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>>566602237
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>>566602376
>whiff parry
>jump or dash away to negate the incoming melee damage
Almost like the parry isn't a necessary mechanic at all, it only exists to unfairly collect free kills because someone dared to attempt using the inherently weakest and riskiest attack type.
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Why does reloading even need to exist? As if guns was the true menace of this game and you couldn't melt like 2k hp away with one ability press on some characters. If you're going to design gun characters, you have to know the playstyle is inherently higher risk than either melee or spirit, so why not let them have guaranteed effectiveness of always firing? Already this game is so insanely fast and everyone is very mobile with items or even has invulnerability/dashes/teleports.
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Melee is fucking worthless when you realise good items like Point Blank negate Melee Damage so Melee just becomes basically useless after Lane Phase also theres ZERO reason why a light melee stun and a heavy melee stun are both the same length
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>>566602502
Well shit, last hero I would have thought
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>>566602609
wow very interesting, you definitely don't post this literally every thread, much to reflect on
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>>566602602
Parryschizo...
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What's with Doorman players just cheating when they're losing lmao? It's not enough they're playing an overtuned character, they have to bug abuse just to win.
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>Why does reloading even need to exist? As if guns was the true menace of this game and you couldn't melt like 2k hp away with one ability press on some characters. If you're going to design gun characters, you have to know the playstyle is inherently higher risk than either melee or spirit, so why not let them have guaranteed effectiveness of always firing? Already this game is so insanely fast and everyone is very mobile with items or even has invulnerability/dashes/teleports.
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guns should have limited ammo that you only get from boxes
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I've got something better for you to pay attention to than this retarded argument
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abilities should cost mana which can only refill at your base
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Anyone that defends parries is a parryscripter.
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>>566603009
Imagine how juicy and puffy her cookie is...
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>>566602929
>>566603031
This but without a hint of irony
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why are faggots always projecting so hard in this game? like when some retard playing a split pushing hero is whining that x player isn't pushing walkers or whatever, you just know after end of the match when you check the stats, the guy whining is gonna be the only one with sub 1k obj damage in the entire lobby
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>boosted supportsissy getting demoted even though xe's winning
>https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/matchmaking-rank-winrate-multiple-reports-of-de-ranking-despite-having-a-positive-wr-as-supports.132533/
LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL the performance based mm is working as intended
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>>566603880
>a full essay on why supports deserve more for less
>ZERO ( 0 ) scoreboards posted
i wonder why they wouldn't want others to see their gameplay as they cry about "unfair" demotions?
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>play dynamo because i have an idea for a tank build
>genuinely troll and fuck around the entire game yet we stomp them twice and take 2 mid bosses and all walkers, our walkers are all up
Some of them were sweating their asses off while i was bored out of my mind, this shit is unfair lmao, genuinely just build 3 or 4 resistance items and then go to the enemy jungle with 2 or 3 people chasing you and you're guaranteed to live because the retarded teleport can send you above building and has a 10 second CD, that's without factoring witchmail lmao.
8/10 build, only downside is that you'll be bored unless your whole team is inting
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>>566604216(me)
I just want to add that the fat fuck gets a free 22 bullet resist on max level, dyanmo, the BEST character in the game just gets free stats as the game goes along so if you're building full gun you'll always deal 80% or less to a dynamo even if he doesn't buy greens
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>>566603880
>>566604156
The person who wrote that is the rem player here.They fully believe they belong in E4+, apparently.
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>>566603880
The notion makes me afraid to come back and play healer Ivy again
I might not be able to make it all the way up to ascendant again this time
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>>566604601
If you were able to get to ascendant before the rank changes you'll probably get thrown into eternus.
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>>566604601
it's kind of shit right now for everyone because it encourages everyone to play like a greedy ape instead of trying to win.
>yeah i see my haze is getting jumped 3v1 and i could probably save them if i go help buuuut there's a chance i die and i could just go farm their sidelane instead.
this mindset is rewarded and encouraged now
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>>566604862
It's always been encouraged and rewarded.
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>>566604502
at least he's buying actives and not a retarded pillow build can say that much also he's tied for the lowest souls so he wasnt stealing from his team at least
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>>566604502
>everyone touts Eternus as this amazing thing >heh you can only give your opinion if you're eternus buddy
>meanwhile theres a 2 and 11 Paradox with 160 obj damage and a crackshot build Holliday with E shift at eternus
lol
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what's this thing with Mo&Skill going underground under blue walker and scourging it from under the floor to death?
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>>566605264
You would be a 1-22 Paradox in that same lobby thougheverbeit
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>>566605264
the difference between phantom and an e4 player is literally just knowing when to push objectives, they're still retarded
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>>566605264
Rank is a meme and you have crayon eaters in every elo, even e6
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>>566601435
intensifying mag is really nice for victor, ive been getting it for the spike but not really going far above until really late i'll grab a spellslinger
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>>566605264
>barrels maxed, recharge, arctic blast, tankbuster, recharging rush
>no cooldown items, no ricochet, no boundless spirit
>crackshot build
?
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>dunning-kruger "I'm totally better than those eternus players down at archon 3" hour
im out
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Am I retarded or is there no ''[Character] has Returned'' voice line? I can only find the Hero Missing voiceline.
How can I let people know the lane opponent returned to lane?
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>>566605803
No one is saying that
If you think Eternus players are immune to inting or retardation then boy do I have a surprise for you.
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>>566606058
>I see ___
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>>566606145
>No one is saying that
lol
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>>566606260
Please provide a quote of an anon saying they're better than Eternus players
I accept your concession in advance.
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>>566590026
Is this true...?
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/dlg/cord melty
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someone post silver
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>>566606523
My 2 stamina wife is so fucking strong.
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>venator is bad actually, gun paradox is totally better just hit ur shots
KEKYPOW
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>>566606347
I mean plenty of people shit on Nightshift players
But when I join their stream and see them building ult seven or some stupid shit I do have to wonder wtf the plan is
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>>566606572
She gets exhausted so easily...
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>>566606728
Just land your bootkick for the extra 2 stamina bro
What? Its janky as fuck and will miss moving targets even if you have good aim? Skill issue.
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>>566605324
Scorn is probably doing more work, since otherwise without the lane pushed up the walker would probably outheal the damage
You can also use Scorn to near instantly kill midboss after the sound that announces it
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>>566606690
a lot of people are still playing for fun to a degree in pubs, when you have thousands of games you have to mix it up a little
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>>566606690
Aren't most of the Nightshift players washed up pros from other games like Overwatch?
IMO it makes sense to me they'd be perfect in the micro level of the game(Shooting, aiming, abilities) but suck at the moba aspects. Like how it took awhile for people to realize Ult haze was disgusting in pro since you can cancer maxx as a pick hero, press 4 with slowing hex and ensure the enemy cannot play.
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>"oh yeah bro i love going hybrid builds"
>look inside
>toxic bullets + full spirit
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>>566606910
I mean yeah I think the real answer is that Nightshift is still kinda casual and for-fun.
I think a lot of Deadlock Eternus players aren't as good as pro-players in other games, and a lot of that comes down to the game not being a real option to a lot of those kinds of players, there isn't a real competitive scene in a closed alpha playtest.
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>>566605590
I feel like a spellslinger is a meme on Victor. Just upgrade into healing tempo.
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>reach phantom rank
>every game is full of bming in chat, bm pausing, commending mid match
>giving up and afking in spawn/abandoning
>people who are 2-9 will call everyone else on the team shit and say their main is eternus 6
jesus christ this really is the ultimate dunning-kruger ego larp zone
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I was on a winning streak yesterday, but today I played 5 games and I lost all of them. Some guy always had to throw or be a useless piece of shit with an off meta build.
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>>566607817
even frenzy makes more sense for a gun 6.4k. spellslinger is only good on geist and warden
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>>566607871
Welcome friend
I've nearly escaped the Phantom trenches, but it always managed to keep you.
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>>566567380
how do i achieve this
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>>566607309
>no opening rounds
It's dogshit
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>>566608457
For me? It's Spirit Shredder.
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>4 game loss streak
>4 game Key Player Streak
interesting...
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>>566606572
Where’s her massive beer belly
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Graves sisters its over

went down to asc 3 from 4. She might actually need a buff
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>Go on a losing streak ending up in arcanist
>People actually understand macro
It's so strange, everyone is so shit and slow to close out the game, but I feel like in ritualist people didn't know mid boss even existed and would perma brawl mid and ignore the sidelanes and jungle camps
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>>566591021
This but unironically
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>>566601265
I hate that a lot of people prefer victor like this too, so many build him like a m1
I don't even play him anymore
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Post your mains and other people rate you
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>>566601265
I like it, it suits him well.
>Frontliner who goes in, eats CC dies than gets out
Literally perfect.
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>>566609258
Lash, Billy (shame I fucking suck with him), Abrams (shame I suck with him), Ivy, Seven, Warden. I also play Dynamo but he’s too strong so I feel bad for playing him
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>>566609258
Mina
Apollo
Pocket
Calico
In that order. I'm trying to add Yamato, but she isn't clicking.
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>>566609258
Victor
Ivy
Doorman
Rem
>>566609352
HonestGOD
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>>566609258
Mina
Geist
Seven
Venator
Ordered by game count.
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>>566609258
At the moment it's Viscous, Lash and Doorman
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>>566609368
kys noclip tranny.
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>>566609258
Abrams, Mo, Victor and Mcginnis.
I used to play a lot of calico but I'm not a big fan anymore after melee items nerfs.
I just want an actual melee guy and got severely dissappointed by Silver.
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>>566609258
>Billy, Silver
I used to main victor before the march patch, dropped him afterwards since the changes went against how I enjoyed to play him (aura monster).
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Holliday is so tiny, literally every male hero can just pick her up with 1 hand and there is nothing she can do about it
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>>566609258
Silver and Billy
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>>566609258
Doorman, Sinclair, Mo and Krill, Kelvin
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Keep your eye on my balls boys and girls.
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>>566609258
Lash, Ivy, Vyper, Graves, and slowly been mixing in Sinclair in all honesty I play half the roster off and on... I just like having fun :D
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>>566608436
you give up your dignity
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How am I supposed to play Billy. Every time I go in they outheal my damage, or insta parry my melee. What build should I be using?
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>>566567917
>lose all walkers before minute 20
I wish it was this fucked. You know in eternus if you get feeding retards you're guaranteed to lose all walkers by 12m?
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>>566575690
It's a waste until you have titanic mag + capacitor
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>>566610446
People say you'll win more if you play M1ggers but every time I try to play one the enemy team just gets to force walkers 1 at a time while my team makes no attempt to trade or do anything, so I'm left with zero walkers at 15 minutes and no space to farm or do anything
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>>566585013
attach yourself to the least retarded player and try communicate and make plays with them.
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I can swap them through this
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>>566610532
I usually go titanic magazine, rapid rounds, slowing bullets. It usually allows me to chase efficiently. Especially nice since my aim is garbage.
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>>566610382
I have my personal build but it might not work for you.
The TL;DR tips as a billy main are
>Your laning is shit. Play like a pussy until you get your ult. There are some lane matchups you win but they are not common and more often than not your lanemate will be retarded
>You enter a powerful powerspike in the mid-game. Perma teamfight when you have your ult up
>Do not be afraid of splitpushing, you can shit out a surprising amount of objective damage. Bait out the stomps and spam heavy melees + with gun fire
>Your late game surviviability hinges on Colossus. Its his core late game item, without it you will get melted by the enemy team
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>>566609258
currently Graves, Victor, Apollo, Mo
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>>566601578
*decays you after*
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>>566601212
>>566611135
>heroes become useless if you use the thousands of hatecrime cc abilities present in the game to make them useless
btw <insert top 1 most overpowered hero in the game> is useless if you just silence and disarm them and mo ult them
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>>566604502
Kensu you are the dumbest fucking nigger I ever had to play with.
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>>566610562
>People say you'll win more if you play M1ggers
I've heard the same advice and then it turns out we just turbo lose every team fight while I farm a sidelane. Also really funny when the 0-7 retard on your team is mad so he just afk leeches on your lane and cuts your farm speed down by literally 50% just to spite you.
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>>566610883
I’ll try it out, thank you.
If you don’t mind, do you have any advice on matchups I should avoid and when I should not start a fight? Those are some of my issues
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>>566607143
>Like how it took awhile for people to realize Ult haze was disgusting in pro
what, ult haze like pre-patch ult haze? because that shit was picked exactly once
i'm not familiar with the current pro haze meta though
if you've got a clip or a vod or something i'd love to check it out
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>>566610773
I run titanic mag slowing bullets and weakening headshot on my support ivy. I have given swift striker some consideration. Sprint speeds nice as a bonus and it would enable applying slowing faster. I feel like I'm doing a good thing applying shred though.
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>>566607920
I guess so yeah, I just think spellslinger looks cool and i like the fast reload
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>>566564592
Dynamo but it does nothing.

I'm also sort of sick of celeste, not for any particular reason just she's been on the enemy team for all but 2 of my last 20 games. It's sort of boring.
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Is Apollo related to the Bogdanoffs?
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>>566609008
there's a REALLY wide gap in those ranks between people who started in initiate and grinded upwards, and the people who were pityplaced in archon/oracle grinding downwards
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Leaker here, they are going to turn McGinnis into another black woman (same model as Calico and Haze) and rename her to McNiggis
Leaker out
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>>566611437
It can be complicated, but basically any lane matchup where the enemy can poke you to death is unplayable since billy relies on being right on top of you for damage.
So Geist, Warden, Vindicta, GT.
>when I should not start a fight?
Its difficult to tell, if you're going to all in with your ult COMMUNICATE. Spam your mic with spergy IMULTINGIMULTINGHELPHELP noises and pray your team-mate hasn't resumed afking the t3 jungle camp as the wave pushes his walker.
Sometimes you will have to go full unga bunga and try your best alone, don't worry champ these kind of gangrapes happen to the best.
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>>566609258
Viscous, Sinclair, Calico and Apollo are always on 1pip, happy to get any of them whenever. i double pip if there's someone specific i want to try out
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>>566609258
Venator,
Ivy,
Doorman.
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Afterburn or dash infernus?
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>>566612159
Paws on my face, actually.
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>>566609528
Bro.... I just enjoy spirit nukers...
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>>566609258
Drifter is my main but I have many other mains, figure a screenshot would be easier.
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My friend started playing Ivy lately and he is obsessed with gun ivy and won't hear any critisism on the build and believes i'm gaslighting him when i say her spirit build is much safer and more consistent.
which would be fine but this is the second person I know whos gotten obsesed with gunivy out of the blue...
what are the ivymains doing that causes this
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>>566612361
I also like gunivy. Stick with someone with healing tempo and build gun and you’re set to just M1 and turn your brain off
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What hero first comes to your mind when you think of a player feeding really badly on your team or the enemy's team? For me, its Seven, which I don't understand because he's so easy to play, yet is played so poorly by many.
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>>566612461
I die a lot as seven and i can't tell you why either
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>>566612361
The ivy-obsessed e6 #1 NA leaderboard ivy plays her gun/melee and makes it look like a lot of fun so there are a decent number of imitators.
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>>566612361
It's tourists that saw the cyrus video.
I still play spirit Ivy. Sometimes pick up tesla for wave and camp clear, depends on the match.
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>>566612454
eh I imagine too much rof is gonna hurt you. ivy's main source of dps is siphon bullets/capacitor. her actual gun scaling sucks a fat dick so I imagine there's math there where you fire so fast it's got diminishing returns, or worse dps even.
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>>566612461
Drifter, every drifter player who doesn't stomp their lane seems to inevitably overfixate on getting stacks to recover and ints for the rest of the match.
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>>566611950
What's your skill build? If you get 1 + 2 in blasted you can take fights the level before ult, and even before that you can get kills if the enemy over extends chasing your lane partner.
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>>566612521
>wants to farm
>high winrate
>enemy team doesn't want you to farm and may come to try and kill you over and over
>no mobility tools
>only 'escape' tool is a single target stun that can be dispelled
>top builds don't recommend any mobility
Unless his team babysits him or he's god's gift to deadlock he's a free kill.
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>>566612556
I go nova web echo curse with max stun into ult into tether then kudzu last. I'm double stunning people anyway so the root feels redundant.
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>>566612461
Wraith
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>>566612728
If you have a victor, abrams, billy or whatever that wants to go into enemy face brawly witchmail echoshard Ivy is a ton of fun.
Presuming that teammate isn't brain dead.
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>>566609258
1-Graves
2-Ivy
3-Holliday
4-venator
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>>566612695
2 points into blasted, 2 points into bashdown, 2 points into chain gang, then max what you think is appropiate (Tons of CC? Ult max. Otherwise max 1 to get the best damage)
You usually leave the rising ram upgrades for last since they're just nice to have rather than critical powerspikes
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>>566611393
Yeah this is pretty much my experience on top of losing all of our walkers pre-20 minutes so the jungle becomes off limits as the enemy team has space to do whatever they want on our side of the map
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>>566612895
Yeah I've only picked up witchmail a couple times but it sounds really fun.
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>>566609258
venator
drifter
mina
haze
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>>566612926
I do the same, but I rush 5 in bashdown and go for early crushing fists.
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>>566613027
Most of my Ivy wins just come from determining who isn't retarded on my team and gluing to them.
Stay nearby to bail them out of ganks, stick to them and provide tether during fights, get disables to deal with whatever might kill them etc.
A half-decent babysat m1carry will just clean up the lobby.
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>play regular spirit lash
>lose
>play gun lash
>win
we are totally not in a gun meta
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>>566609258
Holliday

I choose Mina, Rem and Seven for my low priority picks, not because I actually play them, but because they're popular so I never get them
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>been away from team PvP games for over 6 months and up to a year
>come to realize something very important
>people blame matchmaking non-stop
>but it's unironically not the matchmaking that's the issue
>the real redpill about team PvP games is that it's that the playerbases are the problem because 90% of people playing them in solo queue are brown, unemployed EBT niggers/mixed toilet mystery meat goblinos with 70 IQ
>this makes the matchmaking pool so abhorrently muddy it's physically impossible to put together well-balanced matches even with the perfect matchmaking algo
>and in turn said games are unplayable outside of a full 5-6 stack or a god-tier duo partner
We need eugenics to fix the team PvP game landscape. There is no other way no matter how many iterations of matchmaking algorithms you come up with. No amount of math and stats will overcome the sheer density of SHIT clogging the pipes and discoloring the water of the pool.
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>>566589813
I'll miss the little floating spheres, even if they were a little ugly.
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>>566611204
Ok go ahead and disarm or relic Dynamo see how useless he is you'll win the entire game by silencing the dynamo!
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>Holliday bounce pad only works on her allies
>a successful lasso halves its CD
>you can now shoot people while dragging someone with lasso
there Holliday is fixed, you are fucking welcome Icefraud
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whats their ship name?
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Since it takes place in New York why don't black heroes get bonus damage vs Asian heroes?
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this shit doesn't work right?
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>game setting is in New York
>no Jew hero
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>>566614046
Mo literally digs a tunnel and Krill looks like he's from israel
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>>566614046
Bro your rem?
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>>566614046
your mo and kill?
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Mo & Krill is just Alchemist from Dota 2 and that hero is canonically an Israelite riding an American ogre
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>>566614046
Graves is genuinely unironically jewish
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>>566614318
He also gets injected with weird chemicals.
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>Yamato has to channel for a couple seconds to change colors

>Silver can basically instantaneously transform into murder bitch
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>>566612461
Seven its probably because they get caught farming jungle camps and the camps plinked their hp so when they're discovered they just get bummed
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>>566615201
Yamato also goes unstoppable and basically invincible for her transformation, meanwhile Silver just gets a big fat ugly dog hitbox
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>>566615201
Yamato is also immune to debuffs and negative effects so you know
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>>566615201
Silver is busted and a way better hero than Yamato but Yamato having a multi second iframe transformation isn't a bad thing
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>"STAY AWAY FROM YAMATO!"
>just shoot her to death anyway because the retarded yamato player always ults at 1% hp
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>>566615201
>Nooooooo yoshiiii don't give me free i-frames to dodge doorman ult, his bells carts and all the bullshit his friends throw before i rape them nooooo yoshi please nooooooooooo ahhhhhhhhhhhh
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>>566615560
>yamato ults
>walk around the nearest corner so she can't grapple hook to me
>leave
lol
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>>566616050
>>walk around the nearest corner so she can't grapple hook to me
>She spams grapple because it can be cast while she's ulting and immobile and catches the singular frame you're visible for then instantly clips through the wall to power slash you with +40 bonus spirit power from her grapple
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>>566616223
Yamato is weak but her grapple is top 5 bullshit in the game next to riposte or Entanglement.
Shit needs reworked so her other abilities can be strong.
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yamato grapple should just be a hookshot
imagine the movement
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>>566596249
venator litteraly cant win a 1v1 against any other m1gger in the game
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>>566616642
>dive in
>nukes you
>ults
>nukes you again
>grapples out
Would be too OP. You can already kinda do this with T5 Grapple.
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Which heroes can just win teamfights by existing? I am bad at aiming and the game
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>>566616865
There's like half a dozen characters who already do this
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>>566614046
couldn't possibly be the merchants offering the same merch to both sides
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>>566616874
Dynamo
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>>566615201
>>Silver can basically instantaneously transform into murder bitch
lmao
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Is gun lash the only viable way to play him if you aim for 50%+ wr? He's so fucking boring compared to spirit but spirit does 0 fucking damage
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>>566617075
blame yoshi. gun lash is like a vindicta/gt but they can move around in the air, it's crazy.
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>>566617009
Found the aimlet
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>>566617075
Yeah spirit Lash sucks, I think his gun build is pretty fun with how mobile you are.
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>>566617158
t. has never played silver also doesn't know how to not get shot (bad at movement)
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>>566617173
you use oses build? it's so barebones
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>>566609258
Lash and Venator, but I play about 10 Characters because this is dota 3 and Not playing at least 3 characters for every "role" seems silly.
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>>566617314
Yeah, it's not barebones you just don't need anything else.
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>>566615489
I have never seen Silver get kills in her wolf form. More often than not she gets CC hell
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Silver wishes she had like 2 seconds of iframe after pressing her ult, she just gets raped anyway
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>>566617485
>More often than not she gets CC hell
She's a professional. That's her job.
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>No guys Silver is so easily counterable she's really weak to CC
Isn't every character weak to CC
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>>566617772
>literally can't deal damage if not standing on top of you
Guns and spells have range so even if you get ccd you can do something
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>>566617772
Yes and no, some characters are better off shrugging it off (Yamato with her ult, Victor with ult, Abrams with maxxed passive that gives debuff resist)
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>>566617217
What are you even talking about aimlet bro
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Silver is weak to alcohol. When she steals some of Billy’s beer she’ll get drunk, horny, and sad. All while forcing you to eat her out her hairy sweaty pussy
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I like this image in and of itself, but I know if I post it two things will happen
>someone will call me a yurifaggot
>an actual yurifaggot will try and claim it as supporting xis favorite ship
Sad, isn't it
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>>566618204
t. stands still and thinks enemy having 100% hit rate against him is normal
Try using your movement keys lil gup
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“TIME TO CHANGE THE WORLD!”
>extremely short mediocre damage cone
When will Warden’s ultimate not be awful
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>>566595128
Mina, Celeste, and Wraith are all dev favorites so they aren't ever going to be meaningfully nerfed or put in a state where they are bad.
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>>566617772
Literally any CC cucks her in wolf form and arguably human form since her gun is a shotgun, it's all about effective range.
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>>566618290
Oh no!?
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>>566618290
>pussy
Cookie*
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m1ggers, what sensitivity options do you use?
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>>566618656
Cookie monsters? In my /dlg/?
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>>566617772
>Vindicta getting stunned in Sniper range is just as bad as Silver getting stunned in melee range.
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>>566618791
Silver is strong? Not when doorman is around!
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>>566618791
No Vindicta getting stunned is worse because it cancels her flight
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>>566618982
kicked out of brunch again...
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>>566617772
yes but some are weaker to CC than others
for example ivy's stone form can stall CC and sometimes even dispell certain CCs like roots, same with pocket's briefcase which doubles down as an escape with his coat
some heroes can straight up get unstoppable from their kit like yamato, 'brams and billy
others are weaker to certain CCs and more resistant to others, like vindicta and GT being vulnerable to phantom strike and knockdown specifically but dodging most other CCs
and there's characters that straight up can just tank through the CC like mo&krill or victor (due to debuff reduction in his case)
meanwhile some characters are specially weak to CC, like silver, because she needs to close the distance to be effective and preventing her from doing this with anything basically shuts her off, any mobility CC against her is practically stun, and she has no innate way to deal with CC
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>>566619167
>No Vindicta getting stunned is worse because it cancels her flight
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WOMAN
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>graves is 0/7
>we're behind

>'hey graves we're falling behind could you try to be more careful? the enemy team has a lot of mobility and strong chase so if any of us are caught out of position we'll die. Just need to stay together and focus on staying alive and trying to get picks to turn it.'
>foid comes on mic to scream at me that she knows all that and I need to shut the fuck up
>look on map
>she's alone running it down towards a walker when the entire enemy team is missing and the other lanes are pushed up to our base so we have no pressure elsewhere on the map

she died
we lost the game
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>>566617772
Whenever someone tells you that a character is weak to CC know that they are underplaying through their teeth
In every single ASSFAGGOTS, every downplayer will always tell you the same shit.
>bro this gigabroken character isnt actually broken just cc them!
If the only answer to a character that you can think of is making them uninteractable then that character is broken. CC is universally strong against everyone broken characters being weak to CC is not a special trait.
the only exception to this arguement is channeling abilities based characters.
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>>566619469
I’m sorry to hear that but I’m glad to hear of another graves player losing
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>>566619497
People say this about Mina, Celeste, and Wraith, but they all are nearly impossible to catch or lock down in the first place. You have to be REALLY bad to die as any of them.
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>>566619497
... and other things heralds convince themselves of, then try to tell other people
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>enemy climbs a rope
>can no longer real damage to them
Yeah Silver is so strong you guys when the enemy stands still and doesn't use spells or shoots she kills enemies almost as fast as other heroes in the same situation
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>>566619564
The problem with those characters is that all of them are carries that also have giga mobility and are also good at all stages of the game because ice frog is busy huffing his own farts by trying to re-invent the wheel of character roles and their weaknesses.
>>566619791
You're such a genius anon, you should tell that to DNS pros I'm sure this'll break the meta.
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>>566619167
>I'd rather be dead as Silver than on the ground as Vindicta
I can relate to that
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>>566618745
who doesn't enjoy a cookie every once in a while, I like my cookies with some glazing personally
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>>566620035
Being dead as Silver is normal, being on the ground as Vindicta is wrong
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Melee Charge on Paige instead of Arcane Surge opinions? Her heavy melee hits decently hard and it seems like a decent movement option.
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>>566619791
>le rope meme
you can let go of the rope and use wall jumps, double jumps, and swipe at them btw this strategy wouldn't be effective if you were higher than archon rank
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>>566620035
What CC item is it that instantly kills Silver I'll start buying it
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>>566617772
>Isn't every character weak to CC
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>>566620119
>you can let go of the rope and use wall jumps, double jumps, and swipe at them btw
The same applies to you though? The difference is you aren't cucked to melee range or a base 2 stamina.
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>>566619925
The meta of Silver being first picked and having little to no impact?
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>>566616874
Celeste
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>>566620201
so wheres the part where silver cant deal damage to someone on a rope come in, retard?
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>>566620201
That implies the poster will ever leave ritualist
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>rope prevents silver from dealing damage
i can see this working if you play against people who aren't human beings, but then again most of you niggers are below oracle lmao
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>>566620201
Neither is Silver, who has a gun, a gap closer, a better slowing hex, and a massive nuke that basically guarantees her ult goes off so she can use it to finish the kill and turn on the other people there or escape. Plus the hero buys stamina mastery and restorative locket to completely offset her low stamina. Are you playing the character wrong?
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>>566620210
>The meta of Silver being first picked and having little to no impact?
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>>566620335
post your rank
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>>566620384
I started playing her recently and I'm 20-8 atm, and one thing I've felt is that she gets punished really hard by missing abilities, whereas other heroes can still win without them
Which makes it make so much more sense the niggers in here insist she's super weak kek
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>>566620515
>Outing yourself in a elo where people stand still to your M1 and don't use cover
Ballsy anon but I respect it
You are sure smurfing those ritualist lobbies. you'll hit archon sure enough.
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>>566620743
I will bet you 50 USD that if you post your rank mine is higher than yours
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if having a good winrate on silver means you're in ritualist why is she S tier winrate in e6 lobbies
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>>566620743
I thought ropes were this medium-close range hero's weakness now it's cover?
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>>566620967
Freudian slip where he says "people stand still to your M1" implying you can't just make them stand still with kick + bola, pretty much confirming my suspicion that these shitters just can't land abilities
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Just play doorman and put the dog in the baroness
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>>566620471
Ascendant
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notice how silver """"upplayers""" are always happy to post their rank but the ones who insist she's weak and call everyone else ritualist never do?
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>>566616874
Mina
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>Oh jeez I wonder which team won....
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>>566621227
Yikes. Match is starting
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>>566621236
I just did THOUGH
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raped
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>>566617772
>slow dynamo
>he cant use his two so he uses his 3 to heal and fly at mach speed instead
>slow holliday
>she cant bounce pad out and just fuck her up
there are degrees anon
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>>566613721
TRVTHNVKE.
>>566613804
That's more of a san fran thing.
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Silver downplay sisters...
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>>566621236
>notice how silver """"upplayers""" are always happy to post their rank
I have never seen them post their rank, actually.
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why the fuck does Holliday Vindicta Silver and Graves all have 2 Stamina while that fat fuck Dynamo has 3 AND he has a teleport + a heal that gives him a speed boost like huh?!
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>>566619791
>silver downplayers have zero movement skill
unsurprising

>>566620743
nigga they don't stand still, you MAKE them stand still. that's your fucking BASIC combo
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>>566621878
>upplayers are usually inferniggers just holding w
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>>566621794
>>566621323
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>>566621576
saying you're X rank isn't the same as posting rank
i'm tomtom 3 btw so you're gapped either way
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>>566621804
>Holliday
Jump pads
>Vindicta
Flight
>Silver
Boot kick and the werewolf's gap closer
>Graves
They hate this hero and don't want it to do anything also it's meant to be a zoner or some shit
>Dynamo
Some dev's favourite hero at the moment
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I fucking swear Silver is like a cognitohazard in this thread or an infectious disease everytime she's mentioned for hours its non stop Silver discussion has anyone fucking noticed this? When you bring up Dynamo or Abrams or some shit there'll be like 2 posts going "yeah shiv is bullshit" or whatever but as soon as Silver gets mentioned for hours the thread is just arguing about her like what the fuck?
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>>566622146
Silver has the single worse fan (not even player) base out of every character.
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>>566622146
Half the silvertrannies dont even play the game.
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>>566588512
The mina didn't cheat, your lobby sucks, you rem especially sucks, and you suck as infernus.
No one took sinners except for her, and all she did all game was steal your teams sinners because Rem refused to use helpers to counter your opponets sinners.
She sat on a 32+ min egg, got a 20 min ricochet, kept lanes from crashing in all game while her team lost fights constantly, and took your sinners all day.

Her only flaw was literally fighting so little that she only had 12 love bites procs by 30 mins which is cringe.
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>>566622143
Why does Infernus have 3 stamina then? And the guy with a literal mapwide teleport has three stamina
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Silver upplayers going all out I see
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>>566622317
Carries are allowed to have escape tools that also do damage and then have 3 stamina because they're carries
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Is gun Abrams good?
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>>566619925
Mina's weakness is that she is a coombait character like Celeste, so you are more likely to get a retard playing them.
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>>566622146
There's literal discortrannies in here pretending that Silver is S tier and super overpowered.
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>>566622146
There's literal discortrannies in here pretending that Silver is F tier and super underpowered
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>Silver "Upplayer"
>Eternus IV
>"Silver is.... le weak" poster
>Crickets and ascendant ranks
You lost.
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>>566621323
>doesn't play silver
Opinion discarded.
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>>566622686
>copying post word for word
Classic tranny, can't come up with anything new and has to corrupt real human posts.
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>>566622717
>Doesn't play Silver
>>566620515
I hope this helps.
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>>566622692
>E6 players and guys who play for actual money
>All say Silver is overpowered, she's first pick/ban every game
>E4 pub player
>Insists Silver is somehow underpowered as she sits at a 55% win rate
Uhhhh bwo?
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>>566622858
he forgot the period its a transformativework and is under fair use chud
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>>566622717
do you think the arrows indicate how much you play a hero?
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>>566622921
The E4 player didn't say anything about her being wea...
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>>566622931
Sit up straight when you talk to me
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>>566622931
retard
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Now that we agree Silver is overtuned, how do we bring it in line?
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>>566623163
Buff her, she's weak as shit
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>>566623121
I have 20 games on my highest arrow hero
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>be holly day
>have 2 stamina
>put down bounce pad for full air control (hope it's not on cooldown!)
>enemies also use your bounce pad and proceed to kill you

>be cell est
>have 4 stamina
>have full air control simply by existing
>enemies want to have sex with you
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>>566623368
There's no point even complaining about Celeste because it's obviously some dev's pet hero and will never be bad for longer than a couple weeks
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>>566623338
ok?
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>>566623749
see: >>566622931
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>>566623957
ok?
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>>566622146
I mean you saw it to a lesser degree with Mina before, if it wasn't hot women they wouldn't downplay them
Same shit happens in every other game, attractive characters get downplayed by troons and waifufaggots
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>>566623997
i accept your concession.
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any leaks over the past 1-2 weeks? haven't been paying attention to this game lately
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>>566623163
Her ult shouldnt be 40 seconds.
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>>566584247
People saying this game will pop off are insane
I played a few matches with some dotard friends of mine last night (and one that actually wanted to get back into it) and i don't think i've seen them having a worse time in any game before. If yñu're not already in the know it is simply too much for your average gamer to get lnto. Maybe i5 was5he rank disparity between us but if thats the case why the fuck let me queue up with them?
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>>566624424
It should last 40 seconds
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>>566624349
They've killed all the leakers though Minesweeper is saying the next update is in August.
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>>566622146
waifufags suck dick at anything they play
waifufags see their waifu is actually top tier despite them going 0/10 with her every game
waifufags cope by claiming their waifu is ACTUALLY bottom tier
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>>566624349
all the leakers got raped and killed and their bodies got thrown into a hawaiian volcano
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>>566624781
>waifufags see their waifu is actually top tier despite them going 0/10 with her every game
This is what upplayers do, yes.
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>>566609258
billy seven and kelvin
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my silver experience is shitstomping the first 20 minutes, legit no contest, able to duel anyone and win
and then failing to translate that into a win before i become a melee trooper
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I've come to a conclusion that most of my games are won when I act like a retard magnet. I can't teamfight for shit so the best I can do is splitpush and get 3-5 people on my ass wasting their ults on a single guy.
My winrate shot up ever since I've accepted my role as a Rodeo Clown, but I no longer have fun anymore
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>Silver up against Mo, Wraith, GT, Victor, Mina, Mcginnis
Welp
Yes I did get ult spammed every fight.
My sinclair rushed boundless instead of buying utility as well, I don't get it.
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>>566625429
bro silver is S tier though??
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>>566622921
Every time I see this kind of cope about "pro" players I remember dota razor.
Your supreme lords are not infallible young tard.
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>>566625521
does your chosen s tier hero play well when getting mo ulted and silenced and wraith ulted anon?
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>>566625860
Victor tanks that no problem
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>>566625776
>Pro players don't know anything
>High rank players don't know anything
>Mid rank players don't know anything
>Low rank players don't know anything
>Streamers don't know anything
>People who just watch the game don't know anything
>Statistics are unreliable and mean nothing
>The devs don't know anything
Not sure how to solve this one
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>>566626170
>Statistics are unreliable and mean nothing
Okay but these stats are from a limited data pool and aren't of all games no? Whenever I check my matches, half of them are recorded on the best of days.
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>>566626170
>Streamers don't know anything
Their ego/greed blinds them
>The devs don't know anything
Too busy sniffing their own farts in hawaii
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>>566625359
Pick geist, life swap them and hope you can at least trade 1 for 1. That's my strat
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I LOVE to unlock 2 first as SEVEN I LOVE stunning people who think I'll just brainlessly farm for 30 minutes I LOVE siccing my retard teammate on their stunned asses
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>>566626170
i've played [character] for like ten games in archon and won a few, i know everything.
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holy shit
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>>566626857
you already advertised your own video here bro
>>566595696
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>>566625359
>3 people waste their ults to kill me
>my team is too busy farming to take advantage of that
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>>566625989
victor is D tier though
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> Get game, other team has a 3-man that was on my team last game
> They threw because they didn't get Wraith/Haze
> Fight two of them on lane and tell them to fuck themselves
> Their Mirage abandons 10 minutes in, this should be an easy win
> My team refuses to push or group, and when they do group the other team is blowing every ult they have on me
> Wraith lift into Mcginnis turret field into Krill grab into Haze ult
> 50 minute game
> Finally get unstoppable + plated armor + metal skin, activate all three and walk into their team
> Krill and Wraith blow their ults on me even though I have unstoppable
> Haze ults and gets shut down by metal skin
> I have now absorbed all but two enemy ults
> Finally my team gets their shit together and wins
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>>566626857
>playing on a smurf in a stack to farm doorman clips against literal retards five divisions below your main

genuinely the most cringe shit i've seen posted here.
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>play billy
>ult
>enemy walks behind a wall for 0.2 seconds
>chain breaks
>play against billy
>get ulted
>stand behind wall for a full second
>still get pulled
Billy is unironically the second buggiest piece of shit hero in the game
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>>566623368
Celeste is always going to be broken and unfun to play against by virtue of being designed like a LoL character (4 foolproof abilities and a free passive)

>>566623530
Yeah but you can at least make people feel bad for playing them.
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>>566626857
i am not impressed by whatever useless shit this is.
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>>566628212
They still haven't fixed his dash bug where you don't get a full dash if you do it after a melee or ability.
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>>566628212
Billy's maybe third. Doorman is first because of his ability to kidnap people into out of bounds that they still haven't completely fixed, Apollo is second because if he uses riposte in a confined space he'll clip through a wall. Billy is probably the same level of glitched that Bebop's hook is.
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>>566628570
>bashdown is bugged, half the time it doesn't drag people, the aoe hitbox is buggy as fuck and the knockup doesn't always work, and if you get immobilized and cast it the spell doesn't eesolve until the immobilize ends
>ram occasionally knocks enemies so high that you can't hit them with melee
>ult is buggy as fuck too
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explain THIS valvedrones
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>>566629970
It's called "Damage Over Time" also known as a DoT. It's good because it can help you secure a kill even if the enemy get's away on low hp. Hope this helps!
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>>566629970
what is even the question here? do you not understand how to read?
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>>566629970
i hope you haven't tricked yourself into thinking the damage from toxic bullets can't be lethal for some reason.
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>>566630302
>>566630146
>>566630102
why did you change this without telling me, valvedrones?
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I still don't understand how to counter Mina's ult. Like is it better to just get spirit armor? Or indomitable because it silences you and you get some shield? Or spellbreaker so some bats (1 singular bat) do less damage?
Fucking hate this retarded bitch so much
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>>566630374
besides a way to break line of sight (warp stone) or disable mina (curse mainly, since she buys remover always) the best option is Ethereal Shift
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>>566630374
You don't its arguably the strongest ult right now besides Kelvin/Dynamo ult
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>>566625359
Hey man the Lane janny is the most important role in the game.
You should stand proud.
You are strong.
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>>566630374
You don't counter it, Mina is just allowed to have a free kill every minute or so because she's a dev favorite character.
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grenade ven is still good i dont know why everyone dropped him over another .1 gutshot nerf
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>>566630374
buy more stamina items so you can dash out of line of sight right as she uses it or warpstone like the other anon suggested.
spirit armor will buy you time, is generally good and should be bought in like 80% of games. indom is wasted on it because it's more balanced around stopping bad stuns/ccs and stuff from getting you killed.
spellbreaker is useless against her ult specifically, but it will prevent lovebites (which procs on her ult hitting you for some reason :)) from cutting you in half.
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>enemy uses vent
>shoot them as soon as they touch it
>they don't get stunned
>I use vent
>I get shot just before landing
>I get stunned
How does this shit even work
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>>566630374
spellbreaker isn't going to help, it'll at most will stop the love bite
you're going to lose indomitable on the first bat and be silenced right after anyway, if anything you keep the reactive barrier
her ult does current health % damage so theoretically resilience is going to thrive against it

you only have one spirit resist item against 5 spirit heroes you can't complain too much you're being damaged by an assassin, specially on graves since skulls and ghouls eat so much of her ult
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>>566597557
>Shoot every enemy orb.
>Get hitmarkers on each one.
>They still don't count as denies.
Yeah...
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>>566618330
You see Ivan, the fags from tumblr and reddit cannot comprehend that an action/discussion regarding 2 characters can be done without having any fetish desire.
I hope lorewise each hero ends up with some monkey pawn shit tier and kick the bucket or worse, but with the current direction it won't happends.
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>>566597557
Intiate to Oracle is an upward climb, Oracle onwards is a downward climb but you get to be carried by the occasional pre rank inflation player.
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>>566631370
Carry players are retarded and can only function by playing the most comically OP shit imagineable. Anything less they lose with.
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i despise that i can be equal in farm and up kills+k/p on someone but because of obscure factors out of my control they're not just even but ahead in souls
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>>566631425
her ult procs it because love bites says it applies from abilities too
and to be fair it's the % damage cutting you not love bites, I just tested and t3 ult with no stacks deals more than 5x the base damage because of it, 404 to 2281 on the test dummy without love bites and 2370 with t3 love bites, all with no items
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>Both heroes that use melee items are bottom winrate E6
Hmmmm
Cman yoshi where are my crushing fist buffs.
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Think of your most HATED hero
they now have a crush on you. How do you respond?
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>>566630374
Spirit armor, and learn to use cover, and learn how to quickly move.
It's that easy. It's just a glorified bebop/seven ult but everyone forgets how to play under mina ult for some fucking weird reason.
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>>566633973
crushing fists is such a fake fucking item, the only reason it feels like a lot of damage over melee charge is because of the weapon invest it gives.
>>566634120
It would feel really weird to fuck pocket I dunno. Dude's like, dead or someshit. What if the suitcase can't go off? I'm not fucking someone holding a suitcase 24/7.
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>>566634120
I'll burn the furry bastard for being a sodomite.
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>>566597557
>denying
Cringe.
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>>566634215
BUT DUDE... LE 0.5 SECOND STUN!
For a t4 item its so sad. If you're gonna gut lifestrike then at least buff the single lategame melee item
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>>566580161
anon, my biggest tip for billy is to just unbind zoom on the right mouse and make that your light melee, and throw that shit out liberally. It's incredibly hard to predict, and most times if you show restraint people think you're gonna heavy, so you can just shoot them in the face and THEN melee them.

Play your lane safe, use geometry to your advantage. Billy's range isn't great, but he is still stupid strong late game
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>>566634120
>Billy trying to get me behind a back alley
>think I’m about to get raep’d or killed
>he hands me a flower and runs off blushing
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I'm thinking about stopping playing graves until they'll unfuck her because holy shit I'm useless from first minute to the last
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>>566572386
its ok anon I'm hard-stuck alchemist because I played too much when I had no idea wtf I was doing so I am stuck in hell.

It can always be worse.
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>>566633973
Crushing fists to t3 (keep same stats and effect)
Runed gauntlets added as t4
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>>566634120
>Ivy
Must. Not. Racemix. With the fatass Latina.
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>>566634120
I would tell his wife so she twists his black hole balls
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>get enough charge to use silver's ult
>use it
>it takes a second to transform
>die
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thought silver was bad?
>>566635206
>downplayers dont know you can just press 4 to insta transform
-_-
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Apollo was fun for one match only anything more than that and his kit is boring as hell
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>>566635336
brainlet filtered
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>>566635336
Design wise its too braindead. Needs to be more skillful somehow to make him engaging, you can be a moron and still do amazing on him
The riposte triggering on gunfire and shit like Torment pulse is just the icing on the cake.
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>>566635336
It takes the Russian mind of ДABAЙ to truely understand the joy of Apollo.
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>>566635294
>insta transform
It still takes a second, do you not play the hero?
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>>566635509
>silver downplayers just outright lying now
it does not take a full second to transform
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>>566635509
pressing 4 to transform is literally instantaneous
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>>566635509
>do you not play the hero
Look at the fucking projection here
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>>566635509
>>566635616
>>566635658
>>566635783
never trusting one of these "do you not play the hero?" silver downplayers ever again lmfao
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>>566635658
No, it's not.
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>>566635968
why did you trust them in the first place I fucking swear Silver players dont even know what the bola does or the two or even the one they just press 1 mash m1 miss everything and go "oh well she sucks" they're worse than fucking rem players
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>>566635968
>>566636063
Holy shit
HAHAHAHAHA
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I need to fuck Victor so bad bros I can't focus at work I keep thinking about him
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erm akshully it takes 0.25s to transform on press which is why silver is actually a bad hero and needs more buffs
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>>566635968
You can even see the delay, keep coping and pretending your opinion on a hero you're never played matters.
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>>566636232
The delay of... one whole tenth of a second
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>>566636134
Yes
Those seconds matter a surprising bit, its not like she's got iframes (Yam)
Also makes it possible to CC spam and kill her before she gets it off
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>>566636232
full second btw
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>silver upplayers confirmed for never having played the hero they pretend is super op
Pathetic.
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>>566636232
full second btw
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NEW
>>566636474
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>>566636397
>those seconds
you mean milliseconds, german retard
don't you have arcanist street brawl games to lose
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>>566613721
most deadlock players are white or azn
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>>566636232
the delay is from him not having perfect reflexes
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>>566636647
Doubting that considering how retarded the average pub player is.
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And my character can jump infinitely and she has no weapon damage falloff and she shoots MAGIC GLITTER and she SPAAAARKLEEEEES XD when she jumps and she can throw a magic ball that destroys all the bad guys and if they try to fight back she uses a MAGIC SHIELD that silences them!!!
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>>566635968
She can't press it when silenced
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Are Silverbabs the same as Rivenfags as in retards that absolutely refuse to admit their crutch character is overpowered and easy to play?
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>>566635968
What dogshit design.
Why even bother having the 2 second channel when you can just instantly transform. That's such a shitty design trap for noobs.
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>>566638979
>Active: Instantly transform
Is reading a basic skill description beyond silverfags?
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>>566638979
so you have a last chance to use human abilities you fucking retard
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>>566636647
russians are NOT white
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>>566639346
I've killed several silvers who just walk around in a desperate bid to time out the wolf form because they are on CD and can't do fuck all.
All I'm saying is, it's a trap for noobs.

>>566639186
Idk man, I don't read the skills or play tranny bait dog. All I know is what I see players do with her.
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>>566634945
imagine if Ivy was sitting on your face and she accidentally turned stone and you couldn't get her off of you haha



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