Silver downplayers obliterated edition>Latest patch:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/04-30-2026-update.129989/>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki/>Collection of useful character buildshttps://deadlockmeta.com/>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/>Unofficial Competitive Newshttps://edl.gg/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/silver downplayer obliteration moment >>566563897
if you hate silver you hate trans people. stop being transphobic or I will make a reddit thread about it.
>silver upplayers post webm that proves them wrongCan't make this shit up
>>566636632ONE FULL SECOND DOOD IT WAS ONE FULL SECOND MY ULT HIT AND I GOT KILLED CAUSE IT WAS AN ENTIRE SECOND TO TRANSFORM DOOD
I need victor I think about him every second of the day I wish he was real
play venator
Tried using the steam controller with this shit for the hell of it, I can definitely see someone getting good with it my muscle memory with pc is fucking me up. For sure playable though.
gonna do this to silver's cookie, then squish it so the doggy juices leak out before licking it clean!!!https://litter.catbox.moe/razh03.gif
I'm not ready for a teamfight.
>silver downplayers trying to backtrack because they had no idea you could press 4 to transform
So now that we know that Silver upplayers have never played the hero there's no point taking them serious ever again.
>There's no delay!>There's actually a delay>But its only 0.2 seconds!I love this autistic general
Remember someone said he was 20-8 with Silver, said he was obviously playing at Ritualist, and turned out to be EternusDownplayers have no shame
>>566636907>making shit up since you have no argumentYou tell them sister! You're a valid transwoman!
full second btwmust suck being german and autistic (redundant, i know)
>"Silver is OP">Look inside>Someone complaining about wolf form (ultimate shitter check) and not human form (actually OP)
>>566636474>Silver downplayers having a melty againBased op.
>>566637245>Free towerdives and 6 gorillion mobilityBoth forms are OP bullshit.
Silver is a divisive topic, but we can all agree billy is weak and deserves buffs, right?
>>566637556Yes also parries should be nerfed to shit
>>566637556Yes.
>>566637556wheres the billy upplayers?
>>566637556Parries should be removed and furthermore Carthago Delenda Est.
>>566637556/dlg/ has unanimously agreed on this ever since he was released
if you haven't noticed, parry schizo and this retard with his "1 second" claim are the same personhe's very consistent at asserting the dumbest fucking claimswhich is made all the more amusing by the fact that he mains street brawl and plays in actual shitlow
I just love how people make such audacious claims like a "one second delay" have these fucking people not played a single game before? one second delay isnt nothing its very VERY noticeable so saying it has a one second delay is so unfathomably fucking stupid
What is it about silver that attracts the most mentally ill bunch who don't play the game much less the character they pretend to like?
U guys complain Abt silver all the damn time that bitch is annoying as fuckWhen she's in my team, she feeds early game When she's on the enemy team she rapes the retards in my team I hate her voice lines I hate how she looks I hate everything about her what an incredibly annoying character
>>566638227It feels longer when you die because of it + silence or CC spamI have had games where I spammed my 4 button begging for the health refresh while the abrams or Mina rapes my asshole.
>>566637398>crying about the ultimate shitter checkLMAOAOOOOO
Wheres my Viscous downplayers?
>>566638374They have to pretend the hero is OP because... the discord said so!
>>566638738is it downplaying to say he's pretty shitpunch nerfed, splatter nerfed, ball nerfedwhat does the character do besides cube and rescue beam you
>>566638912Spam cube and splattersI would honestly remove cube, it makes his kit unbalanceable since its such a cheese out of jail card.
>>566637556His entire kit being tied to melee makes him unviable when it comes to playing against people who can press F.Seriously. One F during a light melee and you're basically fucked, debuff reduction doesn't reduce the parry stun time either. So you're doubly fucked in that regard.He needs to get ahead early, or he becomes an ultbot and bullet sponge for his team without doing much in the way of damage. That's it.
>>566638912he is the undisputed king of midboss pit--AIIEEEE DON'T DEATH SLAM MEEEEEEEEEEEEE
>>566639051sinclair? venator? dynamo? shieeeeeeeeeeeeet
>>566639134why venator?>trapsjust drop from the ceiling
>>566639047forgot to add to this, if Ruinous gauntlets were purchasable in standard, he Abrams, Venator, and Yamato would see like a 6%-8% bump overnight lol, melee is so hard to balance simply because without any investment it can be countered by every character in the game. With all of those others I listed, they atleast have ways to proc melee damage reliably, or can build into spirit/gun. Billy doesn't get that luxury, he is hard tied to melee.
>Silver on my team>His first message is “I don’t know how to play Silver”>We lose…
>>566637556His kit by itself is fine i have a problem with the melee/parry system, i know you're supposed to faint but even then they dash away and it will always be a high risk medium reward trade, i don't mind the stun or damage buff from parries what i mind is it being a 2.75 stun, at the very very least make it a 2 second stun for light parries so there's some incentive. With all of that being said im bad and even i can get billy to work sometimes, so maybe this whole post is just one massive skill issue cope>>566639047Does indomitable or whatever it's called work on parries?
>>566639460>Silver on my team>We losetale as old as time
>>566638738they stopped when he was rightfully nerfed in 4 straight patches
>>566639182nades nades nadesvenator can sit on the highground and lob nades into the pit. the nades do a fuckload of aoe damage. and you will get trapped and buckshot straight to the lord if you try to contest him. and yet if you don't, he will clean up the fight with boltsthis of course is in an active shooter situation. if it's just stopping/going for a steal, yeah he doesn't really have it going on
>>566638374They don't play the game, therefore they feel mandated to defend their waifu from the meanie chuds who rightfully call her a balancing nightmare that needs to be reworked or nerfed.
>>566639460Doesn't matter, the hero is 100% dependent on the team.With a good team it makes you win faster.With a mediocre or bad team the hero does literally nothing.
>>566639567yesits a great item on billy
>>566639047>>566639391>Buy extra charges>Max out Bashdown so it applies Heavy Melee which fully reloads your gun.You dont have to melee as often as you think. You mostly bashdown and walk up to people while threatening to melee until they parry for no reason.
Flopping tranny deadcock.
yes, i parried your meleei did this because i knew it was coming
This tranny game and its playerbase exemplifies the mental illness of the community. Some of you guys just spout emotional nonsense with nothing but muh feelings behind these shit takes. Every tier list by highelo/pro players has silver in S or S+ tier. Ive played her a couple times and shes fun but also clearly strong. Maybe shes only good in high ranks but not sure why since she’s not mechanically difficult. The ebb and flow about her ranking is an autistic and unfunny meme. Its even worse cause that fag yoshi actually balances off community reaction rather than game direction or his own sense. Stop trying to kill the game to fulfill some horny power fantasy. The silver autism is cringe it has to stop. There are plenty of characters that actually need balancing like mcginnis or holliday and calico, not fucking silver leave the bitch alone.I didnt even want to post this but its annoying seeing people chimp out about silver every general. Worst part is that its a bunch of oracle and below shitters thinking they know anything about game balance
>>566640440yugiohs?? on MY /dlg/????
>>566640392>Successfully baited the enemy parry>Get overly excited and press my light melee instead of charging a heavy so I get parried anyway
>>566640440Realistically, they could increase the cd on her ult by 20-30 seconds and buff all her wolf form spells. This would make her worse in constant brool esports and high rank pubs and better in low/mid rank pubs.
>>566640654>Successfully baited the enemy parry>Heavy melee to punish them>They jump awayIf you whiff parry you deserve to be punished. The risk is minimal and the potential reward is extreme.
>>566640654>abrams charge into wall>actually missed the wall by the edge of their foreskin>eat shit
Communicating is cheating.
>>566638374They're furries, they've always been mentally ill, silver attracts them because she's the "I'm not like other girls!!" furry of the cast.
Nngh... Oh God... Oh god not again... Nmghh...Oh no not the horrible, horrible uncontrollable curse that lets me choose when I transform... I thought I had thus under control... NMGHH... AWWWOOOOOOOh god oh god oh jesus oh no it's... Ughhhh it's bloating my stats... No... It's horrible...Oh god it's... I can't control it... I... It's making me walk forward and hold down the left mouse button... Aw... A-Agh I just teamwiped no this is awful...C-Celeste don't... D-Don't look. Don't look at my hideously inflated elo...
>>566641763furchads like me do no care for sliver because she's not true furry
We really need a Clown hero im not even shitposting I really want a clown
>>566640639I even went out of my way to pick an appropriate card
>>566642087If you wanted to be a clown you could have simply mained Sinclair
>>566641827billy chuds wwa?
>>566642496In some disgusting filthy alley fucking Vyper in the ass
>>566636907what the dog doin
>>566640682Yeah the constant gank and brawl style of high level play is probably what makes her stronger at those levels. But i dont get what makes people think shes weak in low elo. Does ult form get kited that hard?
>>566642619lucky...
>Playing Rem, laning with Warden>Were kicking ass cause the enemy Geist unfortunetly got stuck with a suicidal heavy melee spamming Silver>Head back to base to find our Mo & Krill dced>"Wtf?" Check score>He was 0/9>"This fucker rage quit on us!">Yamato who was laning with them actually tells us that they were just walking up to the enemy graves and letting her kill them>Fucker was just griefing and wanted to screw us over>Chad Sinclair on the enemy team decides to leave to make it fair>We winThank you Chad Sinclair of fair gameplay and FUCK GRIEFERS!
>>566640639Add Fairy Tail Snow to Deadlock now that she's free
>>566642397Sinclair is a magician not a clown. I too would like a clown, someone who makes a mockery of all the enemy heroes
>>566642824rochka instead because she's cuter
>>566640440The meme of silver is the pros hyping her up as the second coming of release shiv and her failing to live up to that mantle. I'm not even saying she's bad, but there's so much bullshit in the game that I have a hard time taking it seriously.Dynamo having a AOE dispel that can dodge every ability in the game? Kelvin in general? Mina ult? Yamato grapple (She sucks outside of it)? Apollo in general? Gun Bebop, Gun Warden, Le monke man dealing 2k damage in a single dash at max rage late game.I can go on. Again, I'm not saying she's weak, but compared to some of the bullshit I've described she's A-tier at best. Morso in pub games where trying to tard wrangle your team-mates as a roamer hero is suicide fuel.
Yup, Silverfags are absolutely like Rivenfags
>>566643145When I see this image I know the post will be an utter waste of my time and never bother reading
buff parry remove meleebring back 4 lanes
>>566643557Bring back 16 item slots with 4 dedicated slots for each category too
>trying to stoneform people as ivy>I have both a doorman and bebop uppercutting and carting people away from the stunsAAAAAthey were good but AAAA
>>566640246I think parry should be reduceable by debuff resistance. But they should basically lock debuff resistance behind T4s.
>>566643145>trying to be reasonableWhy are you expecting upplayers to return the favor?
>be me>walking down the street at night>see mumbling nigger coming my way>discreetly turn around>he pulls out a shiv and start chasing me>accidentally get cornered in an alleway>oh god I'm going to be shanked to death by a drug addict >remember my name is Calico>say "I'll see you soon.">walk away
>>566643134Also a good choice, though I'm really a Luna guy
cub pawpads_focus
gourudon..
>>566644291Also a good choice, though I'm really a Feral guy
>>566643842>4 dedicated slots for each category tooThere are only 3 categories currently(vitality/gun/spirit) what was the 4th?
>>566644437flex slots gained from taking objectives
Wraith is the biggest retard magnet of the patch
>>566644437We had 4 slots for each of the 3 categories with an additional 4 flex slots that could be used for any category. Unlocked as you achieve objectives, same as how it functions now.
>>566644643I have seen some of the most braindead retarded players in eternus maining wraith and it's like. I know these people personally. I know they're fucking terrible at this game and should be skill capped at oracle or something. But they're sitting in eternus with oracle level macro, game sense, movement, mechanics all because wraith can just stat check the entire cast if she hits 30k
>>566643241The only people who complain about riven are people who play the equally bullshit toplane swordswomenI'd say she's more like irelia the way she constantly flips every fight
Retard team + Leaver BebopAgain Valve outdid themselves with their shitty matchmaking.
>>566644435Also a good choice
You goys better not still have League of Lesbians installed on your PC.
>>566645229I outplay the matchmaking by playing a maximum of two games a day. It's not even some gay shit like 'tilt' or 'fatigue'. I think the matchmaking just starts fucking you over time. And if you barely engage with the game it tries to bait you into playing for the night.
>beam kelvin in 4 straight gameskill this fucking character, lynch him in the streets for the whole town to watch, show his electric chair execution on television, live leak his beheading to the world
>emissaryag ag ag ag ag
your silver sire
>>566645620so yoshi went the marvel rivals route...
>>566644291>>566644435holy based
>>566644435yes but are you one of the based ones tho (real)
>>566646216>picgiwtwm
>>566646216you JUST know
>>566646363
>>566646753would a guy in a mascot outfit be too zany?
>>566646753based, cookies are delicious
Have they removed the troon movement """techs""" that only 1% of the player base uses yet?
enemy victor>16/2me on victor >3/11HOW DO YOU PLAY THIS FUCKING HERO
>>566647776build gun
>>566647776Play gun victorInt for objectivesSpirit Victor doesn't exist anymore and truthfully was never viable since his release.
>>566647928It still works but you need a dedicated support t. ivy that duos with victor
>>566648371No offense but I think you could make any build work if you had a pocket pussy support around you 24/7
>>566648474even melee holliday?
Victor is only strong because people run from him just keep pushing and watch him panic when someone actually stands their ground and shoot him I've actually discovered that recently playing Yamato
>>566647770if only 1% use it why bother removing it
>>566648474Yeah I dont disagree it's just that at the end of the day a carry always works when there's a support to help
>>566649002He's only scary when fed, at even souls he's a joke who exists for killing objectives and little else.He doesn't even really scale that well with gun, there's a reason why its called gun tempo
>>566649170:|>:(
noticed something about the latest 6 characters:silver: transceleste: transapollo: twink (gay)graves: goth (bi)rem: diaperfur/babyfur (gay)venator: pedo priest (gay)valve is obviously trying to appeal to the lgbt community with these new heros
>>566650878noticed something about your postyou: gay
>>566650878Meds: Not taken
is Warden + Vortex Web + Mystic Expansion + Ballistic Enhancement on his 3 a fucked combo of items I could runit's a bit meme-y but you're basically denying anyone from ever escaping you
>>566650878A hungry man thinks of bread
>>566651072warp stone makes your whole build essentially worthless
>>566651072You don't need web for this desu. hex is enough. you'd rather take duration and greater expansion. ballistic enhancement is fucking dead outside of like venator.
>silver on team>win
>>566651205why venator though
>>566651128web is an overcommit but hex and web both disable warp stones. hex is absolutely core on him.
>>566651326nades it's fair to assume it hits multiple people and you get stacking 20% weapon damage per person hit
help me fix my graves buildI've run it a few times and it feels really strong until like 25 minutes. the character excels when latching onto someone represents a kill and mystic slow + spirit sap + return fire has been doing that for me really efficientlyI have no clue what to buy as extension items. I've tried tanking up with lots of greens, I've tried transitioning into gun, I've tried refresher memes with lightning scrollI have absolutely no clue how she plays late. it seems like you can never keep her damage scaling to stay a pick off hero and you can never tank up enough to stay in the middle of a fight
>>566651734what rank is this build performing in
>>566651734if you want to scale, ignore her minions and buy gun items and then green items.
>>566650878Stop projecting.
>>566651734>Rushing Boundless after only buying 4.8k worth of spiritseeker-kun...
>>566651854emissary >shitteryeah, yeah I know. I'm sure top eternus players would shit on it because they all have 10k hours in kovaaks and would instantly flick all the deadheads and hit 3 edge jumps to instant transmission back to basethe functionality of running at a guy with dead heads seems pretty good>>566652234>50 to 100 spirit>doubling your spirit for 5600ehhh okay I see your point. point per cost is okay but the effect isn't that big I'd just go decay or some other active spirit item but I'm already maxed on activeswhat buy
>>566652584Escalating exposure
Ira Domini and Nox Nostra cds should be swapped.
>>566651734You have to hard commit for either ulti build or gun build but neither is that strong at the moment. If you go gun you want to apply as many on hit effects (toxic bullets, inhibitor, silencer, slowing bullets) as possible and use split shot to hit as many heroes as you can. Split shot is pretty much a must as it accelerates your clearing speed by a fuckton.She isn't as much about out-dpsing your enemies as she is reducing their strength. Do this and you'll see yourself winning fights in no time.
>>566652584Emissary is higher than what I am so you must be doing something right, I just have never seen spirit Graves. Everybody jerks off to gun so hard down in Arcanist its unreal
>>566652823>buffing venatorWhy? He's S tier
>>566638227They'll have an epiphany when they die to something they could've lived out of cause the spell they needed had 0.3 seconds left
Dead tranny game
>>566653240Venator has only gotten nerfs since release, meanwhile the moment Mina got nerfs she got buffed into being OP again.
>>566653240He is S-Tier but only when I pick him. Everyone else is just too stupid to utilize his power.
FLIP FLOPPIN' TRANNY DEAD COCK
>>566653730so trve xistah *claps your ass* SO TRVE!
just went from ritualist to archon by otping no+skill (with 81% winrate) (formerly graves main btw)
>>566654678I went from ritualist to oracle with pre nerf spirit victor, had something insane like a 75+% winrate at one pointGame after game after game of no one buying anti heal or silence, managed to carry even the biggest subhuman shitters.
>>566654823pre nerf anti heal didnt even work against him because he could just cleanse it
>>566654993Not reallyIts instantly reapplied with any m1 that has Crippling headshot, you cannot tell me that victor is a hard target to hit headshots with he just holds W.He was in a weird state of being OP until people bought that shit hence why he shredded low mmr.Most of my losses happened to a smurf or two knowing his shit and getting his team to spam curse on me.
>latch enemy with billy's ult>oh haha they used their mobility spell before your ult latched so they can escape anyway :^)
>>566655906billy is a throw pick when you could be playing mnk,dyanmo, kelvin as a tank instead
>>566655318a pre-nerf victor close enough for you to easily headshot him means you'll be dead in 3 seconds
>>566636474we are never getting a update again :(
>>566650878This post got alot of people mad huh
>>566655618
Most of the builds for McGinnis are for a big ult, but isn't she just the best split-pusher and a gun build would be more appropriate ? Or I'm just a mobafag and should adapt my mindset to something else...
Reminder that 9 out of 10 posters on /dlg/ are hardstuck pisslow and their opinions are not be taken seriously.
>>566523904Wait, anon! I'm not low alchemist anymore... I'm actually high alchemist now!I wonder what I'll get tomorrow.Also, I think I TRULY get a build that works for me now.The game before was some fluke 49 minute game, where Viscous carried us, but this time I was the carry and felt in control the whole match.Need to skip Opening Rounds so I can get Slowing Bullets + Mystic Slow faster. Sinclair is really strong around the assistant so the longer I keep them there the better, plus it makes hitting rabbit and bolt easier. More importantly, there's not much movement slop early game, so slows get a lot of value, and getting there 1600 souls faster is significant.Rapid Recharge + Surge is more than enough spirit damage to kill everyone in the lobby for a long time, before they catch up, so I get to build greens of choice and survive encounters with whoever's top dog, long enough to drop my wrecking balls on them.
>>566656846McGinnis is the opposite of a good split pusher. She is slow as fuck and only has 2 stamina. A good split pusher is Wraith or Infernus because they are both Black which makes them better at running from ganks. It makes sense if you spent more than 2 seconds thinking about it.
fuck anyone who is behind balance in this fucking gamesure lets give the most breaindead heroes with most straight forward abilities the most power. What a great incentive to learn harder heroes, right?I just can't get behind faggots like wraith who has same amount of souls (or even less) being able to remove opponent in 1 fucking second late game all while silencing, slowing and whatever else she does with no thought put into itThese days whoever has more gun heroes, wins the match if it goes for 35min+ which is norm in soloq what a great fucking experiance. Also I just fucking LOVE how green items like siphon bullets still buff gun builds, who designs this bullshit? you get to deal damage and boost your sustain with same item, meanwhile what does spirit get?Why bother adding spirit heroes to the game then? lets just turn this fucking game into another cod and also remove movement while you are at it because obviously gun builds just nerf it anyway with ridiculous amountf slow they put on you, the only fucking viable way to counter this shit outside of items is getting shut down by just pressing mouse1We are in a meta where roamers like lash have to build gun to have chance at winning or gun rem either running it down for the rest or being the most unstopable hero in the lobby at a coin tossm1niggers are so out of touch that when they see decent yamato, mina or shiv they call for nerfs instantlyGod I'm starting to hate this dogshit game
>>566657107Gun Rem and >>>>Haze were free so I think I overdid it going into metal skin after return fire. That could have been a veil walker or dispel magic.
Physics gun hero that can spawn props they can hid behind or pick up and swing around to deal damage
>playing venator>enemy team is holiday, mo, haze who built curse, silver, seven, and echo shard mirage>at one point i get sleep daggered, then lasso'd, then combo'dalright man you win
Winning's my business, and business is wa-ching! good!
>>566658710Another character who is uniquely weak to CC it seems. Many such cases of this.
>>566657301those are all raid boss characters. I mean mina gets to just triple disjoint you. shiv gets to just delete half your burst while raping the fucking shit out of you with infinite daggers/dashes. dude has infinite mobility too. yamato gets to crossmap intercept through walls sometimes without even having line of sight to initiate the grapple and for some fucking reason it gives her more spirit power than the 4.8k spike does for NO reason. she quite literally gets the 4.8k spirit spike... for free. and gets to build whatever retarded shit she wants in the mean time. this is while being a god at mid takes btw.
>>566658864pleasuring mens my business and business is [erection sound] good
>>566658910When people say a character is weak to CC they mean the character's playstyle calls for them to be put in situations where it's easier to CC themAny character will die if you unplug their mouse and keyboard for 8 seconds but Mina is 1000 times harder to set that up on than a carry with no escape or any frontline hero
How am I supposed to play Celeste? Feels like my attacks are a wet fart.
>>566659303You are an ult bot.
>>566658705Post tiermaker
>>566659389Back to Paige it is.
>another retarded game where one cunt in the lobby farms for 30 minutes and then deletes everyone else in the gamethanks Valve
>>566659651>newfags first experience with a late game carry
>>566659487https://tiermaker.com/create/deadlock-heroes-16521935
i love victor
>>566659651Have you tried not letting him farm for 30 minutes?
>>566659119I see paige :D!
VERY FUN AND VERY BALANCED GAME THERE VALVEAnyone who says a single thing about LoL is a nigger faggot because at least that game is not as fucking shit as Trannylock with matchmaking.
What the fuck? Bebop is a duck?
>>566659978Then he waddled away :DDD
>>566659765Thanks, here's mine
>>566660123uncbros...
>>566659813Yet here you are playing Deadlock instead of LoL. Curious indeed.
hehe im drunk who should i paly >:)
>>566656846migu is a good split pusher for reasons that have nothing to do with her gun, her turrets are the big reason cuz she can drop one and it auto pushes the wave while she's not there
which heroes carry their mains? and who are the most honest characters in the game
>>566660271all of them carry their mains and none of them are honest
>>566660271Billy is the most honest hero. Seven or Dynamo compete for the most boosted Animals in the game.
>>566660220Silver....
>billion years waiting for a game and yet the matchmaking is so fucking shit every game is a stomp with at least one lane going 0/20How can Valve be so shit at this?
>>566660271Dynamo playing faggots are absolutely hard carried by that kit
sexo tier list
>>566660525i love these delusional fools that think adding a draft mode will fix the game's matchmaking.
>>566660632Move Holiday and Celeste to A, Graves to B, and Ivy to S
>>566660738I have a large hero pool so draft would only be a net positive for me
>>566660632Swap Holliday and Wraith, move You Can Do It! to F, Ivy in D and agreed
Banning heroes is a very small penis action ngl
>You can arctic blast to clear waves as Calico in cat form and the enemy will never see you show up on the minimap At last, I have lane janny tech for my chocolate gf
>>566660738can't wait for the targeted bans by fags looking up people's profiles on third party websites! definitely didn't happen in dota, nope!
Doesn’t matter who you are, or how you play in lane, as doorman I WILL exploit something about you. You WVLL feel the door.Everyone tells me stop playing with your doors go outside into the real deadlock, I say no, watch me become a doorcel.
>get into match>realize I forgot to ban Mina>fun stolen
>>566661271Just quality of life mods bro
How many shots with Mirage does it take to build stacks? I feel like when I play him it takes 4 or 5 but against me each shot is a new stack.
>>566661505its about damage dealt so your aim is just dog
I am the cosmos
>>566661193>chocolate gfnobody is saying this about calico
>>566661505it has a cooldown on how often it can be applied
>>566661596I'M DOIN IT
>>566661595nvm I thought you said wraith. Mirage's mark is on a cooldown so they have cdr and you don't
>>566638103it's just falseflagging to support a narrative. unfortunately for him, several anons actually agree that parries are overpowered now
>>566661505Each shot IS a new stack, but they're on a CD. A new stack can only be applied every 2.5 secs or so without CDR. Takes five for max stacks when the ability is at max
>>566661603I definitely just said that about calico you dump fuck
>>566661760>several anons actually agree that parries are overpowered nowThey hated him because he told the truth
>>566661505His stacking is actually affected by CDR surprisingly.
>>566642087Funny street performing jester who is definitely NOT the Troubador
>>566661760you fell for it
Does comm bans also prevent allies from hearing my pings?
>>566661596[Yawn]
Which commedia dell'arte character should be introduced to deadlock?
>>566661603The post you quoted just did you absolute retard
>>566660271dishonest and carried>any hero with an on-hit passive / m1 heroes>Dynareddit>Rem and Graves but not necessarily to victory
Does Mina ult really need to constantly proc silence or does she need more training wheels
how the fuck do you counter victor?
>>566662194We need a clown character.
>>566660525I'm starting to think random draft is the way to go.>Haze on S>Dynamo nowhere on S+be real
>>566662651If he's going gun there's essentially no counterplay.
>>566662620wot if mina ult only silenced on love bit targets
>>566662770isnt spirit the better build?
>>566661354this webm calms me
>>566661979yep everything
>>566662792what if we stopped giving every carry>insane damage>insane mobility>insane cc>insane sustainand instead we made them fvcking suck
viktor = braindead nigger cancer
I'M NOT DONE WITH YOU YET
>>566664076you misspelled kelvin
Heading to Broadway
>>566661760Parries are OP.Imagine if counterspelling an ability did the same thing.
i am the cosmos
heavy melee needs a feint
How much longer do we have until the game turns into another generic moba where:-You don't get to play who you want, or how you want-Characters that are deemed 'support' are expected to be broke side characters who aren't allowed to make money, get kills, or do anything besides throw up a shield/heal/CC-Only the designated characters are allowed to shoot (and reddit will still complain about them)-The item shop becomes a giant mess of false choices where if you stray from the 'acceptable build' your gameplay falls off into oblivion?
You guys spend SO much time talking about Silver... It's almost like you LOVE her or something.
Remove melee but keep parry
>>566662770on paper I don't really see how gun viktor is stronger and hard to deal with
Should they scrap the jump pads?
>>566660220Drunk deadlock is so much fun.
>>566664947i would be okay with this. replace item melee cancels with it and make it cost some amount of stam (like 0.5) and i'm on board. yes you can make parries cost the same amount of stamgives heavy melee a consistent 50/50 to work with
>>566665108>My stupid teammates picked Blungo instead of Maximus so Im throwing>Grumbo is side laning and stealing my souls report him>Spirit Skrumpy? Report this nigger for throwing.You vill optimize ze fun out of the game and vill be happy.
>>566660632Celeste up one and it's perfect.
>>566665472Arnie is such a chad
Keep your eye on my balls, boys and girls.
>>566666771who is amie
who wants to see a goo dick!?
>>566666797I want to see and maybe fondle celeste's horse balls...........
>>566666861>throws out goo ball>BLACKER>even the deep is fed up with their shit
I don't care about the women in this game.
why do i not get my prio hero even in a match where no one is playing them?
>>566667620was it banned?
Buff Graves gun dps and auto aim range.
>picked up this game with a friend>we duo, i play seven, he plays ivy>every urn i pick up the urn and he picks me up and we deliver it for free>every time i ult he picks me up and flies me around like a nuclear bug zapper>destroy every game so farhow far will these cheese strats carry us? we're still shitters in seeker rank but we're climbing pretty fast
I need your honest, unfiltered, RAW opinion on Sinclair's 40% CD reduction on every ult he copies.
>>566667789>every urn i pick up the urn and he picks me up and we deliver it for free>every time i ult he picks me up and flies me around like a nuclear bug zapperPeople are already buying knockdown and contesting urn in your ELO, so it's just a matter of time until you face actual resistance. Of course all you have to do is save up for unstoppable, but it won't be as easy as you're used to.
>>566667789This reminded me of the ranks where I used Glass Cannon and wiped people like a point and click adventure game. And I thought the fun would last forever ;.;
Thoughts on glass cannon?
>>566668186>seeker>buying knockdown, contesting urnLmao nice cope, people only start doing this in ascendant, or maybe phantom even.
>You can replace one ability in the game with something else entirelyWhat do you do?
>>566668543Unfortunately it fucking sucks. Losing 15% of your HP for most characters is a minimum of 500-800HP, which is an insane lost. If you consider HP has a cost associated with it, you're losing at least 3200 in souls worth of HP. The 80% bonus damage isn't enough to make up for the HP lost (Warden needs to shoot an entire extended mag just to make up the HP lost).For a 'win more' item it sure puts you in a cool situation where you actually start to lose more
>>566668728Kelvin beam replaced with a skill that kills the kelvin player in real life.
>>566668728crackshot, with some kind of heal or other support ability
>>566667789>we're still shitters in seekerso fvcking basedit's rare for people to stray from the L>R, much less purchasing counter actives, so you can probably get away with it for a while, but you should do it anyways because it's awesomesidenote, i was playing Bebop and out of nowhere our Ivy grabbed me and turned me into a low orbit ion cannon>>566668186i wouldn't say it's nearly that commoni JUST broke into Ritualist and people are still surprised or caught out when i smack them with an anvil
Celeste would be a fun person to hang around, very chill personality.
>>566669234as in she would suck you off for free?
>>566668821I liked some anon's ideaguy post of making crackshot into counterspell where you have to shoot the spell to counter it
>>566668685>>566668925Where the fuck are you two playing from? I'm down in Arcanist and urn fights, urn baits, counterbuys, and all that shit happen pretty regularly.
>>566669348Anon you don't have to have sex with everyone you hang out
rem's m1 should heal allies
>>566668728Geist's bomb. Replace it with a skill that makes her switch her revolver from her main hand to Oathkeeper. When she does, her gun is reloaded with Oathkeeper-infused spirit shells that explode on hit in a radius equal to about a non-upgraded Seven ball (just big enough that she can farm neutrals with it). Each shot costs HP, and she automatically swaps hands back once she runs out of ammo.
You have half hp and gun lash with 2 grapples, full stamina and locket is mocking you while chasing you. How do you respond without souding mad?
They need to revert this matchmaking patch man.Before the change I was at 60% (59% actually but i round up to be optimistic) winrate, all the games felt really even and satisfying, even the losses were good games and I felt like I was gradually learning and improvingNow all of a sudden my winrate is in the shitter, it may unironically be something like 20% rn. games are either horrific stomps where the enemy team simply outclasses ours in co-ordinating and taking objectives, or we have good teamplay but we get comp diff'd because we don't have enough hitler heroes on our team (doorman, warden, mina, kelvin) so we just lose teamfights when souls are evenim only phantom 2, and while you may be right to think that im probably just too highly calibrated, the issue is that i go on 4-6 game loss streaks, only go down one rank, then win a game and instantly get that rank back.so im not sure what fucked up eldritch reasoning is being used to determine matchmaking right now, or the elo gains/losses, but it has been absolutely horrendous for me anecdotally. now im sure the previous patch wasn't perfect either, but it felt alright to me, and i was able to climb pretty consistently. it might just be in conjunction with this current balance patch or something, i don't know, all i know is that this is getting old really quickly.
>>566667717Graves gun needs a rework. I've been thinking this>Lich's ghost hovers behind her>Her gun makes the lich fire projectiles at a slow rate>At close range the beam increases fire rate>Her 3 now places the ghost like a turret>at t2 graves can aim the ghost like The Wrangler from tf2Giving her a summon she could manually manipulate would be cool for her character and Valver already has a way to make that work
new update?
>>566669625nah you just coping kek
>>566669951how long has it been since you were that elo lmao
>>566669480enough with the aimslop in this game. that's a shitty idea that will further kill deadlock.
>>566669849New kevlar update. It looks like an inverted nipple now... you can't unsee it once you see it.
damn love it when urn dropoff is my side lane so the game becomes a peepeepoopoo marvel rivals slop broolfest for the next 5 minutes
>>566670071it's all slop retard>movementslop>aimslop>abilityslop>mobaslopshut the fuck up and put your nose in the trough with the rest of us
they flipped boundless spirit and changed divine kevlar
>>566669625i'm on NA and i still see all of that stuff too, but NO ONE respects the anviltbf Seven ult can be kinda meh and buying Knockdown solely for urn counter is not the best call
eww brother what is that
>>566670254>movementslopyes, remove from the game>aimslopyes, remove from the game>abilityslop?????????>mobaslopso you're just a shitposting m1gger, got it
>>566670621That's so much worse what the fuck.
>>566637556I know he's meant to be a parody of "punks" without a cause who are just angry at everything and everyone while pissing their pants constantly but God do I not want him to get anything nice whatsoever in terms of buffs just out of sheer spite for the character archetype he represents.
>>566668685I just got out of a Seeker game where I was owning early mid on Vindicta but the Dynamo and Holliday BOTH bought knockdowns and just cucked me from every team fight since.In hindsight once I saw the 2nd knockdown I should have bought unstoppable or warp stone but I did say I was Seeker. I already had enough damage too, it was stupid to keep buying more when I already had 12 snipe stacks.Same game also had two 6v6 urn fights to the point that I called for urn baits starting on the 3rd.
how come i play marvel rivals and people crash probably 1/50 games but in deadlock people crash 1/2 games? like nearly every fucking game has a pause due to a dc
Green investment should give hp regen instead of max HP, this would literally fix the game
>>566670985Do you main Spirit Lash btw?
>>566668685Seeker I had the most 6 stack all goes to fight the urn everytime.
>>566670985They are slowboiling the game until we reach a 10s ttk. Pretty soon every fight is just going to be particle explosion aoe slop for minutes at a time
>>566670649>just delete the whole gamedon't forget your itemslop too retard
>>566670985nah i want hp regen to be a unique mechanic
>>566670621>>566670748who even asked for this
>>566671245what is the correlation between those 2 things, and they just decreased everyones health
>>566668685Shitlow is a circus. A lot of times basic shit isn't done and other times it is.
Venator is not an honest hero, gutshot needs to be removed, and all venator players should fucking kill themselves immediately. Standing 50ft from a wall should not be instant death.
Vindicta is not an honest hero, flightneeds to be gutted, and all venator players should fucking kill themselves immediately. Getting hit by a shotgun ability that applies 6% bullet/spirit shred while she's flying should not be instant death.
I like pillows
>>566669821No one is supposed to maintain 60% wr. NO ONE. If you dont understand why then you are beyond help.
>>566672197idk what this guys talking about but he's right
>>566672197It's a weird spot where she won't do shit unless the enemy is already snowballing
>>566672197I don't disagree with you, but in a game where people can press 1 button to one shot you, Vindicta is your biggest issue?
if your character needs a t4 item(s) and team coordination to be hard countered they are extremely dishonest and you are boosted.if your character needs a t2 and low team coordination to be hard countered they are honest.
>>566673234>bebop is honest>graves is honest>mina is honest>apollo is honestdayum
>>566673234Unstoppable is dishonest
is there some trick to accounting for the comedy spread on victors gun or are people just aimbotting when they can taze me with this thing from long range
>that face you make when the enemy is standing close enough to a wall for you to instagib them with two buttons (anywhere on the map)
>>566673635Unstoppable + Refresher is the flagship dishonesty combo.
>>566665108>Characters that are deemed 'support' are expected to be broke side characters who aren't allowed to make money, get kills, or do anything besides throw up a shield/heal/CCIn fairness this has a bunch of DOTA designers where the supports are a little more self actualized
>play billy>need atleast 4 melee items to deal acceptable dmg>can get instakilled by parry>have to dash around and juke shit for hours to even get a hit in with close to no reward>play infernus>press leftclick for a second while missing half the bullets>enemy dead >0 stamina, 0 cds used>also have aoe hard CC, also have broken dash, also have heal reductionparryschizos will find a way to defend this
>Unstick Hero put me in the stupid fucking tunnels againLiterally how is this not fixed, just make that area off limits for the tool
>>566673746>>566672197>>566671932You're crying and dilating about a 44% winrate F tier hero
>>566673173Yes
>>566674092nobody defends infernus.
>>566668728replace sevens lightning rounds with some sort of arcing force lightning blast, make him a dedicated mage.
>>566674092>need atleast 4 melee items to deal acceptable dmgbro just build gun...
>>566674170winrate doesnt matter when the character is fucking annoying to fight agaisnt
>>566674323A lot people dont know this but melee scales of your weapon damage. So instead of building lifestrike for +12% melee damage you could just buy point blank for +50% melee damage
>>566674323You can definitly build billy on gun, its usually what i do against harder comps, but it feels useless compared to actual gun carrys like infernus
>>566670621They also...flipped the icon for boundless spirit?
>>566674465Melee inherits 50% of weapon damage so PB is only 25% melee damage(and you only buy lifestrike for the healing+green invest anyway)
>that face you make when the enemy is standing too far away for your insta kill combo (you get to outpoke them with your high DPS long range M1 instead)
>>566665108Already heading in that direction since march at the very least.
>>566674170That just means he’s going to get buffed soon and become even more unbearable to play against
>get the same worthless spirit victor on my team two games in a row>ends both games with no objective damage>lose bothDo some people like losing games?
>>566673715firerate + ammo + center mass. there's no trick. but missing half the shots to spread doesn't matter when you're dakkaing like an a10
How do I build gun Rem with Crippling Headshot? I feel the need to hoover souls and nuke people.
>>566674712>venator gun>high dps long rangeLMAOOOO not even an aimbotting russian can reach 70% accuracy with his shit m1
>character is good and developers feel is good on their terms>"ERMM I THINK X Y Z NEED A REWORK. HERE IS MY SHITTY IDEA.">"OWO AGREED, THEY NEED TO ALSO ADD MY OC, WHICH IS JUST SAME VERSION AS THE OLD X Y Z BUT.. MINE!">"OUGOHHHHHHH BUFF SILVER"
I'm so glad I'm not mentally ill and can just enjoy Silver being a hot werewolf tomboy with a drinking problem instead of projecting my mental illnesses and delusions onto her while being completely unable to play her and being entirely worthless to my teamImagine...
venator really is the new silver lmao oh wait he isn't even picked in night shift anymore
Venator is a meme though. High dmg doesn't mean shit without a get out of jail free card right now.
>>566675686erm, your Gutshot sister??your immobilize sister????your instakill ult sister???????
I physically cannot comprehent how someone can seethe at Venator of all characters when a faggot character like Wraith exists in the game. Anon, are you that bored?
>sees you>you're dead
>that face you make when the enemy is standing too far away for your insta kill combo and behind cover (you get free damage by bouncing your unmissable grenade)
Later LOSER
>>566675786>instakill if they're low>immobilise if they choose to stand in it and not just shoot it>if they stand right next to you while a wall is nearby and the game decides its allowed you can also stun themNone of these are a get out of jail free card.Gutshot wall jump, preset traps and hope are is best chance to escape. Ult can ward someone away if they're fragile but a lot of characters can still just run you down.
>play silver >Eat every enemy ult solo >Die>Team mops up>WinSuch is life as the most hated hero in Deadlock.
>>566676042okay on this one I was just meming but the other two are valid annoyances
why do we have a nigger seething about venator ( the most honest hero in the game )
>>566676042>that face when you cant aim, but you have hard CC so it doesnt matter
>venator downplayersembarrassing
>>566676207The grenade carries his kit so much. He's definitely one of the higher IQ M1carries.
>>566676190he followed a full health venator with a soul lead into a closet and got killed
buy my coaching and you too will get 30 kill games with venator like the eternus pros
>>566676190It's just a disingenuous faggot baiting, notice how he never mentions what he is playing, Melee Rem if we go by his claims.
Spellslinger is Venator's most important item.Maybe after vampiric burst.Hollowpoints is dumb unless the enemy team is just ignoring you or you've turned into an ultbot/backliner.
>>566676594it might be billy honestly. since he's crying about gutshot.
Hear me out. What if "The Troubadour" isn't real, but is Holliday. Kind of like the Origami killer from Heavy Rain.
I hope they don't buff Venator cause I have a good WR and I don't want shitters to flood onto my hero again like they did when Deathy said he was S+++.
how the fuck am i supposed to play venator to make people seethe uncontrollably like in this thread? i haven't felt very powerful playing him so far.
>>566676785there are voice lines of holliday thanking haze for kiling the troubadour
>be lash>accidentally use my refresher>gets hit while using zip to get more height for my ult>die like a retard>fuck fuck fuck we just lost the game>enemy team decides to follow our shiv down some stairs>he rapes all of themi kneel shivGODs
>>566675413I can't tell whether you actually like or hate Silver so I'm just gonna post Silver abs
(You) play Venator because he's "honest."I play Venator because he gets my dick hard.
>unironically using the r-wordLash players -1 aura
>>566677081Is there anything specifically you're struggling with? You just farm and then hope to shoot the enemy team to death.If you're having trouble you try to let teammates take focus, apply grenades, ult, shoot from a bit back.His gun bloom is aids so closer is generally better. Try to keep traps behind you that you can run back to, when chasing people will pay less attention to them. Around corners or behind objects/veils is best.
Is anyone else getting fucked by the performance based matchmaking update?I won 5 games today and lost 6 and went from low Oracle 4 to high Oracle 2.Meanwhile, the past two days it took 17 wins and 5 losses to get from high Oracle 2 to low Oracle 4.There's probably some shitter out there that is losing every game but is ranking up because they are doing enough wall jumps.
>>566677081Don't miss your grenades and press 2 and hold Q when someone's near a wall
>>566677373I like Silver, I just hate the mentally ill fanbase she's gained who project their mental illnesses onto her. You know the type.Good taste in art.
>>566677265Ah ok.
>>566677407>His gun bloom is aidsJust aim better, feggit seekerbro.
>>566677407i guess i'm not sure what items to buy. i've been buying kinda tanky, which is fun, but i'm not assraping anyone like some posts here suggest i should.
can I get to ascendant before my 400th game? Since the MM changes it takes me about 3 wins to rank up and I've got no deranks at all
>>566677597>just makeup for the random spread betterI kneel shithigh king
Speaking of Venator (because hes irish) when are we getting a Fae character in the game? Specifically a member of the Tuatha de Danann would be cool imo
>>566677706No. You will win 5 in a row and the rank won't change.
>>566670621Nice ai image bwo
>>566669348I'd suck her off for free.
>>566679019Keep your eyes on the balls
I find funny how people here constantly seethe at Vindicta but only stuff that Grey Talon does better never the part that's actually unfair, a coordinated stake dive is guaranteed death 90% of the time from lane to end game.
>>566679128Do people constantly seethe about vindicta?I rarely see her mentioned, even this thread the only time she came up was to make fun of the guy who's mad about venator.
>>566679019>t. Venator
>>566679128Because somehow GT is less annoying to fight than Vindicta at the end of the day. Yeah the hitbox on charged arrow is big and owl can be annoying at times but dicta is just such a fucking chore to fight.
>>566679251There's at least 1 (one) dedicated schizo that constantly bitches about her.
>>566679251They don't, but vindicta is currently in a state where if she gets ahead she will turbo rape you so fast that its actually offputting thanks to the ult giving her a nice chunk of stats, so its very noticeable compared to any other character in the game.
>>566679128the autoaim cheaters only play vindicta and not talon (probably because a lot of them are waifufags that have to cheat to not go 0/11 every game)i have seen multiple blatant autoaimer vindictas, never a cheating talon
>>566677632Keep in mind I'm pisslow but this is my build.Generally its:opening rounds > cultist at 8 minutes (monster rounds first if I feel like I need to shoot troopers or its a graves/rem lane or whatevs, close quarters if my lane partner can kill waves and I want to put pressure on. The fewer greens we buy the better, but its better to buy extra regen/healing rite than die.)4.8k greentrophey collector + fortitude is good if you want to roam, but sometimes its just enduring + dispel or whatever cause the game isn't going great.Then its farm, help team and buy what feels necessary, usually its farming for vamp/spellslinger. Unstop is important for securing rejuv and may be necessary depending on enemy team. Rapid recharge and or recharging rush should be weaved in once you get T3 on grenade. Slowing bullets if the enemy team gets close to you. (Usually I go 1234 abilities, and 224441112333 for upgrades but you can be flexible)Weighted I really don't like, hence its not in the build, but I do occasionally pick it up. There is no extra slow from weighted and we're already a FATFUCK so moving slower is really dangerous. But sometimes you're slot locked and need +25% damage.Venator doesn't have that much health, is a decently sized model and his dash doesn't change his hitboxes position. He is easy to shoot. Obviously we want as much damage as we can afford. We can ignore antiheal because grenade does that.
>>566665108I know this is bait, but in the slim chance anybody falls for it lets take a look at what was said:>-You don't get to play who you want, or how you wantthis isn't a moba thing; that's true of any game with multiple positions. more to the point if you care about winning then yes you have to go with a team composition that works. if you don't care about winning then nothing is physically stopping you from playing whoever or however you want to. non-issue.>-Characters that are deemed 'support' are expected to be broke side characters who aren't allowed to make money, get kills, or do anything besides throw up a shield/heal/CCthis hasn't been true for years. even dota 2 was rebalanced so support characters are now expected to get big ticket along with the carries. LoL has never had this issue as far as I can remember.>-Only the designated characters are allowed to shoot (and reddit will still complain about them)not going to address this one since since it has even less basis in reality than the last point>-The item shop becomes a giant mess of false choices where if you stray from the 'acceptable build' your gameplay falls off into oblivion?same nonsense as the first point worded slightly differently. same answer is applicable.
>>566679629Her damage is overtuned desu, but it's the only thing holding the character together because she is still bad. This is exactly the problem with this design that they went with her ult, nevermind that it attracts cheaters like flies.
>>566680051there's no reason to pick talon over her if you're hitting all your shots
https://strawpoll.com/poy9kL8QPgJ
Yamato redesign soon for sure...
>>566680641>CallicobabsNot a single soul plays Calico for fun, she is exclusively a soulless meta pick.
Talon needs to be removed from the game along with Shiv, Haze, Warden, Paradox, Calico and Holliday. Unfixable outdated early concepts that don't fit in, both aesthetic & gameplay wise.
Yamato final design leak.
>>566680641I don't think I've ever seen a Shiv player downplay him they just laugh about how busted he is and how he'll never get nerfed for real
winning games feel pointless if you have bad spm because you're not going to rank up so whats the point. might as well have not played the game at all
>>566681001>and how he'll never get nerfed for realAll real Shiv mains shake in fear whenever a new patch drops because either Shiv is sent to SSS+ or F tier
>>566680992How many pictures of anime characters that are tangentially related to Yamato do you have?
>>566680641where's kelvin and dynamo?
i was asked to draw this
>>566681104The point is fun
>>566681336wtf ; __ ;
>>566681178He ain't the rapist he used to be, but at the same time they cooked with the shotgun movement.Imagine if he had time to develop with any of his stats from around his initial release.
>>566681336based
>>566681336But what if Rem survives the electric chair and becomes a mini-Seven?
>>566681001Any player knows instintively that winning a 1v5 is not normal, I just laugh my ass off whenever I get going with Shiv.
>>566681538He is born anew as "Six"
>>566680110thx
>actually doing damage as hollidayBUY GLASS CANNON
>finally downloaded the mod manager>the most popular mods are the quality of life ones that offer a clear advantage gameplay-wise
>>566682161I can publish the build if you want but there's probably better ones floatin around.It just puts the shit I wanna buy where I want it.
>>566681336what kind of a sick bastard would do this
>enemy Lash has ult>team is pushing towards a walker>type in big bold letters "DON'T GO IN THERE LASH HAS ULT">they go anyway>YOU'RE MINE!>aaagh!>Aaahh!!>Nhhhghaah!>AWWGH!>AAAAAAA!>last_hero_standing_1.mp3
>>566682589I tried learning this hero tonight and she fucking sucks lol. All that effort to turn into a werewolf that deals +10% damage and dies instantly
>>566682405nah that's fine i was just looking for some inspiration, i don't usually follow any build too rigidly
>>566682176aimbotbro...
>>566682796Yeah. If you have anymore questions post and I'll, or a better player, will try to help I'm sure.Position is the biggest thing, you have no real get out of jail free card and a trap can help but if two people chase you that doesn't do shit. So you need to be hyper aware of who on the enemy team can kill you and where they are etc.
>>566682784+10% damage *only* at 0m, I might add
>>566682784The werewolf is a finisher, you do most of your damage with her human 1-3 (mainly slam fire) then ult to kill them and fuck off or run at the rest of their team. Ulting gives her a massive heal and free resistances so you can get away with the most ignorant braindead plays imaginable.
Is Spirit Warden actually something or am I just getting god's doggest teammates?
Really like doing urn. Did 4 successful urns as Mina in the same match. 2 of them were on the enemy's side.
Why do mod jannies take down the cool skins down
>>566675935You've just posted two faggot characters.
They need to nerf Mirage's stupid tornado so he can't be permanently invincible.> Witchmail> Echo Shard> Dispel> Uses tornado three times, shards it, by the time he's done using three more tornadoes witchmail will have refreshed his shard> Mashes X for free health in between and near immunity to heal reduction
>>566683093echo shard cage nuke build is astronomically overpowered in shitter lobbies where people don't buy counterspell or any cleanses. you can oneshot people without even using your other abilities or shooting a single bullet (this was before spirit investment nerf though, you probably need to shoot them a few times now)
>>566683694Mirage can still take damage while a tornado but I don't understand why or how.
>>566682885naught but honest blasting and barrelling
leakerchad here.sinclair is getting updated this august.
>>566683093uhhh, you can see if you can even go heavy spirit based on how the enemy react to you cage before you actually commit to it.I still wouldn't advise it though
>>566683979>goonerslop in a completely different art stylebait used to be believable
>>566683975>bro buy glass cannon its so good>only 32% of damage is gunso not so good
>>566684183>one item accounts for almost all of your gun damageit's bretty gud
>>566684161>that image>gooner slopAnon....
>>566636779>no easter sunday???
>>566682176damage is meaningless stat. you can play bomb giest and get top dps every game but still lose because most of that damage is just healed. in fact more kills/assists with lower damage shows that you can actually kill people instead of just spamming damage at them
>>566684307It's like 16% of your damage which isn't horrific but it is 6.4k and reduces health.Considering how much spirit damage was being dealt a spirit related damage item probably would have netted more.
>>566684458Truth nuke post right here.People need to stop caring about the damage stat.
>>566684458>muh tickle damageoverwatch mentality. people don't have infinite on demand sustain. you'd never hear a moba player downplay damage stats like that because all damage contributesyou do have to judge damage based on the character though. 100k damage on geist isn't the same as 100k damage on someone like vindicta
>>566684161based autist anon.
>>566685025>bro my tens of thousands of damage into abrams with no kill is totally relevant and more valuable than your damage into haze/seven/venator
>>566684310all female characters are gooner slopfacts
love infernus
>>566680992if anything they'll make her androgynous because she's imitating her deadass brother
Valve has given up on Deadlock and are phoning it in.
>>566685236>meister spieler schadenthis is not a real language
>>566685236MEISTEKILLSERIE SCHADEN ANGRIFFHEILUNG
>>566685262They just need to add the square texture and green eye to the new icon, it looks better otherwise
>>566685236>(Paige) Hat dickwoah...
>>566685245Based on the concept Yoshi has posted they want her to look like a chick. As long as we get a yakuza girl with tats and a huge sword i'm all in.
>>566685535I'd like more than her sword to be huge.
>>566685851I don't think they're giving her a penis
>>566685187if there's an abrams everyone should have tens of thousands of damage on themif you're ever 20k+ damage behind the team's average you're a bum. only exception is if you have 20k objective damage
>>566685992They might give her one during her new ult fx (symbolically). Like the spirit form of her brother.
>>566685194What about Ivy
>>566686295Abrams is just an easy example but, player damage is just generally not informative. Other than if it's super low.Objective damage gives a better idea but even then, a player can have low to no objective damage and not have been doing bad.
XD
Hi Yoshi can you make Geist ult a skill shot? Thank you
>>566686453especially ivy, she has the most results on rule34 for a reason
>>566683846He didn't have echo shard
>>566686295if you play hypercarry you'll usually have low damage because you farm for 20 mins and then end the game while your retard teammates are slopbrooling the entire game
>>566685245She only took up his name (since the americans were expecting Yamato and didn't realize it's a masculine name) but she isn't pretending to be him.But I do think they'll go for a more masculine, or rather "cool/badass", vibe for her since she is supposed to be a ruthless crime boss that everyone is afraid of
>>566686498>Player damage is not informativeNot on its own but with kda knowledge its absolutely a correlate. Some faggots are worthless because they int, but others are worthless because they dont do damage to anything,
>>566686807What's the reason
>>566687348Tomboy gargoyle raised in a Latino household makes people act up even if Gargoyles are a European invention.
>>566687348she's gooner slop
>>566686621done, now it has infinite range.
>>566686327I think it's just going to give her an oni face like pic related but if they go all-in and give her skills different vfx they could add some cool shit
>>566682176okay that's nice and everything but holy fuck 70k healing?I thought heal support was a meme
>>566687875It's a 51 minute game and divine barrier inflates healing stat a lot
>gets to do whatever she wants anywhere on the map with no consequencesThey better never give this bitch a single digit more damage if she can never be touched by anything. In fact, she probably does too much damage already for someone who is effectively invincible if she isn't piloted by a moron
>>566687507>>566687538But she's ugly
>>566688085She's hot, shut your whore mouth you fucking nigger.
>>566687875>I thought heal support was a memeNever has been, it's always been possiblePeople just underestimate the value of not dying compared to killing
>>566688060*boings away from ur kill attempt*that's why IM the law
Next april fools send us back to the 4 lane map for a day.
>>566688360>girl who wants revenge even if she died for it>plays like "BING BONG WAHOOOOOOOOOOO"what did yoshi mean by this
I think I'll wait for buffs before I try to learn this impotent dog again
>>566688709She's easy wtf are you struggling with>my teammates suck I can't carryrekt by yoshi I guess skilldif
>>566688709
ahh yesa night of unwinnable gameshow delightful
>>566688709SHE'S SS+ TIER!!! YOU'RE DOGSHIT! QUIT THE GAME. LITERALLY THE EASIEST CHARACTER IN THE GAME HOLY SHIT
Remove vents unironically. Shit sucks.
>>566688709The hardest part for me is how to build her. Feels like whatever you do she just falls off hard at some point, like it's inevitable.
I don't like playing against Silver because it feels like I'm being beaten up by my wife
>>566689052if you dont play m1gger the game is just random chance on which team gets the m1gger carries. aka its pointless
*fixes Mina's design*
>>566689362
>>566689286Decent m1gger with good support > good m1gger with no support.
Between the faster boons, trophy hunter and weapon scaling I think we're without a doubt in spirit meta, farming sidelane just doesn't have the same impact anymore and everyone is online with less resources. It's not great because a lot of the early game cancer spirit heores like apollo just keeps steamrolling.
>>566682339I remain all natty. Yes I always come late to the bridge buff.
>>566682682>Nothing happening on the map>All enemies missing>BRUH I NEED MUH FLEX SLUT GONNA TAKE THIS WALKER COME WITHNigga...
>>566689720a real human bean
>>566689580it's great because farmslop and the rest of the team stalling so your hyper carry can 1v11 is the most boring shit
>>566689580my character feels strong as fuck right now high tempo characters that want to play a fast game are probably really good in general
AWOOOOOOOOOOOOO
>>566682682Should have bought knockdown and pushed with them. Would have been huge
>>566689809Sure but losing to a spirit death ball with no counterplay also sucks, at least in m1gger meta you could protect the carry and hope to turn things around rn if the ball gets rolling it's a lot harder to do anything.
draft is going to be shitlike you pick A and get countered. so now you just lose.
Deadthread for Deadlock
>>566686543I was on low health, running away from 3 members of the enemy team. But then, the exact spot I was running to, in order to evade them and get behind cover, there was the most inconvenient McGinnis wall already placed there for some reason. I was screaming in mic chat,>MCGINNIS, CANCEL YOUR WALL CANCEL YOUR WALL FUUUUUUUUand nearly died because the McGinnis had airpods inI wanted to strangle the McGinnis, even after we won that round
>>566689580it it's a spirit meta why is gun lash better than normal lash?
The "spirit" heroes in this "spirit" meta are all m1ggers abusing toxic bullets + EE and their onhits. Actual spirit nukers are dead.
>>566689580>I think we're without a doubt in spirit metaok but even with all of those aspects of it, utility spirit items are close to being dead, and gun just scales way better on most of the cast to varying, usually much larger degrees
On paper Pocket should have a cool ass appearance so how the fuck did he end up so lame looking
>>566692520his 2024 model was straight up just a dork (and funnier than his current emo twink model)
>>566692520because pocket's model looks as good as shiv's modelthey're both just plainly unfinished looking
>>566691618This game has ways to much teammate troll potential.>Go rush in as victor to die and kill him with my ult stun>Doorman ult on enemy :D>Victor stun dodgedMc fat and kelvin are like the worst offendersI can see your situation pop in my head almost like im the one running
>drifter nigger on lane hyper aggro and literally insta-procing tele then complaining i can't also teleport to the other side of the lane to help him>feeds 5 deaths and keeps bitching at me>call him a retarded monkey>has a melty and keeps blaming me and bitching>whatever, when the game ends and i'm MVP after carrying his worthless ass i know he'll be seething>game ends>MVPkill and drifter niggers btw
>seven ults>enemy dash jumps away>lasso him and drag him back in>he uses the thanks pingnever felt such team unity
>>566692520Because they decided to make him a tranny.
>>566693658>wraith complains about teammates not pushing walkers>game ends>wraith is the only one in the entire lobby with sub 1k objwhy do people project so much in this game
>>566692520>cool ass appearance>homeless and literally living in the sewersmore like stinky ass appearance
>>566693762The reverse is kino, if you have rescue beam you can drag an ulting seven over to someone running away
i love being passive aggresive :3silver main btw
>>566688085How could you ever say such terrible lies?
>Ivy>Siphon bullets>Witchmail>Spirit resYeah i had fuck off souls but i was actually invincible spamming 3
>the whore parry with her assWhat the actual fuck.
I have never seen a Pocket do well.
>>566694553It's sevens parry animation, hopefully they give her a unique one eventually.
>steadily climbing, get a winstreak going, getting lobbies above my rank level and winning>next game face the best players you've ever seen, rest of your team also getting fucked except for one guy who barely does okay, people shittalking the matchmaking>match ends>game had randomly put you in a lobby 2 ranks below your core rank, despite having just won multiple games in a row that were higher rank than your core rank>derank from 1 lossreminder to turn on post-match team ratings in settings to see the bullshit that's happening
>>566694052thumbnail made me think Ivy had a red one of those african lip inserts
>>566694663She should've used Lash's...
>Don't even feel salty or frustrated about losing and learning from what potential mistakes I've made anymore>Just start to feel indifference and a "just get it over with" towards the latter half of a losing gameIs this how the end starts and I start to fizzle out of the game. I don't even have a super awful wr as its like 63%.
For me? It'sMystic BurstImproved SpiritCold FrontSpirit StrikeSeriously, spirit strike deals so much damage early.
>>566694887>spirit strike deals so much damage early.>it's literally just headshot booster but you have to be in melee range to proc it
>>566694847but she doesn't have any tits to block with
>>566695105>lowers their spirit res and steals spiritdepending on your scaling it can add like 300 damage between all your flat spirit damagecold front + spirit strike is a pretty good rape spike for a few characters
Even Holliday has her own animations and her gun doesn't even have a texture on it Silver still bums off Seven LMAO
I'm so tired of putting in so much work only to lose cause the rest of my team has no idea wtf they're doing. The only silver lining I got was seeing that I put the fear of god into the enemy team so hard 2 of them bought cursed relic just to shut me down for the rest of the game.
>>566695464>shiv playerLoss deserved.
>>566695464shiv is the no skill button mash hero
>tank heroes>need to dedicate 10+ of their twelve slots to defensive items otherwise they can't tank for shit
>>566695714>overwatch player surprised that you can't win by holding W with your eyes closed
>>566695464>"MY TEAM DOESNT KNOW HOW TO PLAY!">shows a clip of the enemy team playing like shitIf you can't win that game it's 100% on you
>>566695598I've noticed that this game has the same sort of deal as the smash bros communitywhere the community will just flame you/dunk on you for playing any hero or character, just because>lol shoulda picked someone more "honest"or whatever the fuck honest means. Also, what the fuck does 'honest' even mean by this game's standards? That you're just playing as some B-Tier, C-Tier schmuck helping his fellow saar-mates out?
>>566695812Hit dogs holler
>>566695714>abrams>mo>kelvin>dynamo>needing 10 greenswhat the fuck are you talking aboutoh wait, you think silver is a tank hero? kek
>>566695714>DPS heroes>Need to dedicate 10+ of their twelve slots to offensive items otherwise they can't DPS for shit
>>566695812>Also, what the fuck does 'honest' even mean? That you're playing as some B-Tier, C-Tier character helping his teammates?unironically, yes
>support heroes>have to gulp buy active items to support
>>566695464>shivif you can't 1v6 you don't know how to play himgit gudlurk moarskill difgo back to victor casualshitlow talking
>>566695812Honest means playing Venator.
>>566696091only support that isn't affected by this is Dynamobut, this is actually healthy for the gameotherwise, we would end up in a situation where every support would just be playing as some fuck-off, cowardly pocket medic riding the dick of whichever person they want carrying the whole game for an easy win
>Took a 3 month break from the game>The rank is still the sameSo the rank decay isn't a thing anymore? Or what? Is it time to smurf?
parries are dishonest bs
>>566695714>>566696023>Heroes>Need to dedicate all of their slots towards being heroes, otherwise they can't hero for shit
>>566696091Active slots should have no limit.Nuff said.
>>566696437RAPE
>>566696331you already know valve will eventually cave in to the dad gamers and egirls begging for their mercy hero to be added into the game
sorry if you dont play crackshot Holliday only you arent honest
>>566696454True.
>>566696513if you don't have cooldown reduction in your build it's not a crackshot build
>>566696508that already happened see Paige and Dynamo
>>566696508>you already know valve will eventually cave in to the dad gamers and egirls begging for their mercy hero to be added into the gameas much as I hate icefrog, I think he'd rather fucking croak before he gave in to adding a mercy character to the gameif he felt he needed to cater to that sort of audience, he would've just megabuffed the fuck out of rem's healing ability for his tag-along and call it a day
>>566695714Assuming you mean greens you're just wrongTry building to debuff and disable the problematic enemiesThat will save you a lot of money while also giving you more damageDeath is the most effective form of cc after all
>>566696504We don't like indians here
>>566696824RAPE
>>566689087I would support removing lane vents and the teleporter if there were items or characters who could spawn:>a vent>a taxi>a teleporter(this is just doorman?)>or a trainIf we're going as far as giving characters specific places only they can go then rework and introduce items or characters with map movement only they can activate. It would also help characterize the hidden roles of the game and make certain selfish gimmicks like the carpet obsolete.
>>566696585Dynamo only has one healing abilityPaige can only apply a barrierthey still need greens in order to support their team effectivelythis is not too comparable to Mercy, where all of her abilities are strictly support abilities, and can heal you with her gun do all sorts of fuckoff pocket medic shit immediately with her teammates
how many MAGA cocks to fix vindicta? silver?
the epstein agent above me tries to derail the threadyet he fails once again
We need ataxi driverClownHotdog guyand a baseball player a rat too anything else missing from New york?
>>566696824>Going airborne>Throwing stake>Taking the shot>We don't like indians here
Maybe the reason why Valve aren't making certain characters is because they want to sell them as skins a Taxi Driver could just be a Doorman ult Bell is a Taximeter Cart is a Taxi Doors are Taxis with open doors and the baroness is the Depot
This user (566697057) needs magacock ricochet inhibitor silencer correction.
>>566697131we are seriously overdue for a large, mothafucking rat herohe should look all slendery and creepy 'n shitbut he should also like hotdogs like Victor, does
>>566697260Agreed I don't want a fucking furry I want something that kinda looks like the Skaven but people want to fuck them too so a little more mankier and disgusting
>>566695105notice how spirit strike completes the 4.8k. as long as you don't get parried it's like an additional ability that deals 150 - 200 damage. especially early, that's an extremely huge chunk.
>paradox
>>566695805Oh yeah cause I'm supposed to 1v6 everyone even when they hard focus me and buy items specifically to shut me down and just deal with it. You also seem to believe that I think I'm hot shit. NO I DON'T! I'm in seeker, I know I'm not that good, I'm not even a Shiv main, he's just the character I got cause the character I usually main was taken. I'm not good enough to hard carry a game and I hate having to try and do so. I just want matches that feel like everyone knows what they're doing and not like I have to pick up everyone's slack when I'm very much not qualified to. If I got games like I wouldn't even care if I went on a 10 game loss streak cause at least I would be having fun getting outplayed with people who know what they're doing.
I think we're long overdue for a fox hero.
>>566697391right because making them a grody little creature will keep people from wanting to fuck them thats why no one wants to fuck ivy
>>566697617well I mean an actual animal wont stop furries from wanting to fuck it so its a lose lose situation anyways
when would I ever buy knockdown now that fliers can parry it
>>566695714supposedly abolishing traditional MOBA roles while simultaneously trying to shoehorn heroes into those exact roles is unparalleled insanitythis whole game is a jumbled fvcking mess; a scrambled 1:1 copy of dota 2, while being a walking contradiction to everything they learned developing dota over the past 13 yearsi still think we have way too many item slots
>>566697586dont bother listening to the people here and dont post your scoreboard they'll see a 0 and 29 Seven with 2 Obj Damage and go "erm YOU were the reason your team lost look you bought *scoffs* mystic reverb instead of lightning scroll? that was obviously the game changer"
>>566697716why would you have bought it before when they could dispel itcount on them being too retarded to, if they do then whatever it's still useful
>>566697586>lighting scroll shivi kneel.............
>>566697716Ideally you get two people with it so they can't parry the next one.
So basically, no matter how many games you win in a row or how hard you carry in games, you will lose near 3x more points per loss vs per win?
>>566697131I want to submit the skeleton cab driver concept that's been discussed a few times but I know it's pointless and would get drowned out under a bunch of edgelord furfag stuffAnd weren't they teasing a rat hero of some sort at one point? I thought there was a hidden spot in the hideout for it
>>566697131A stereotypical greasy italian mobster?And are we talking like, full on campy clown, or like sweet tooth clown?
>>566697131>>566698362-Pinkerton agent - but more thug than detective-G-man-Great War Vet-Bootlegger-Cultist-Union rep-Mafioso
>>566696437vinny a cute! a cute!
>>566697131Not strictly New York related but I'd love a classic Hollywood movie monster similar to the Creature From The Black Lagoon in keeping with the monsters already in the game
>>566697131>italian mafioso business magnate who is the doting godfather of multiple playable characters>affordable slumlord who feeds the suffering of his tenants to an ancient power to stop it from awakening>famous missing actor whose body is stuck in an award winning film and his character has control of his life everybody thinks he's a street performer lookalike>apothecary bartender requires learning mix combos to prepare one of his abilities>bodega security cat magical being that morphs into winged lion can leap and glide>narcoleptic tour guide of the literal underworld hallucinates the powers of urban legends that temporarily materialize
>>566697131we need at least 3 more black girlbosses and 1 more trans vampire
>>566697862kek'dunfortunately that anon is baiting
>>566699093How would you make almost any of these into a character
>>5666993571. aoe nuke2. movement ability3. gun passive4. damage or cc ultjust like 90% of the characters in this game just make their abilities fit their theme
>>566699357it's just background fluff like being a blue demon detectivethe weapon and kits can be anything vaguely related
I masturbated to victor again Played a game today as him doing the spirit build and it felt ok I miss him
>>566699093>>apothecary bartender requires learning mix combos to prepare one of his abilitiesi'm on to your gamesbegone Invoker poster
>>566699273what's weird about wraith is that out of all the other very fem-appealing characters>celeste>paige>mina>silver>honorable mention: holidayno one actually gives a fuck about wraith. none of the redditors care about her, jewtubers (except for when she was strong); just the ultimate nothingburger, whocars character that could barely be called a character, really
Sometimes there's just not a goddamn thing I can do
>>566700053>playing as sinclairI wonder why that is, anon...
>>566700053>968 objective
>>566700053>>566700113>plays as THE objective melter>doesn't melt the objective
>>566697583>>something something this will be paradox's appearance in 2029 or whatnot
>>566697260Instead of a giant rat, what if it's like a hundred rats in a trench coat
>>566700113>>566700171Part of the reason I have more player damage than my entire team is because everytime I approached an objective an enemy 3-stack would come to my location and obliterate my waves instantly and then attack me.You'll notice only two of them have more than me as well.
>>566700053>24 healing GTmy sides... DESTROYED
>>566700171Why is Sinclair the objective melter?
>>566681001The Shiv main I know does and always goes on about how he's only broken at high elo.
my time wife feels pretty powerful in the current meta
>>566700053>28k seven obj dmgfuckin hell I think you had a bigger problem than the fed drifter in your gamealso>pocket & the worst kda in the entire matchname a better duo
>>566700053>Fortitude>8 deathsproofs that it's a troll itemfeel free to send your apologies/concessions in cash or cashiers cheque
>>566689580We've been in spirit meta but most of the people who main spirit characters in here are trash and love to cope.
>>566700607>place assistant>throw bolt at the skybox>call bolt onto walker>walker takes 1200 damage
>>566700607Bolts have absurd potential damage in exchange for being easy to dodge, and buildings don't dodge.
>>566700607>go up to walker>press 2>spam bolts and shoot at ityou will be amazed by how fast you can melt any objective in this game as sinclair; this is not taking into account surge of power bullshit or boltmaxxing either, he's just that good at obj damage
>buy a single green spirit resist item>spirit builds are now useless and will he gaped>buy every bullet resist item and plated armor>still get hosed down 100 to 0 in seconds
>>566692295>>566700763>we are in spirit metaI ask again, if we are truly in a spirit meta currently, then why the hell is everyone build gun and no one hardly picks utility spirit items anymore?
>>566700849>item that shreds bullet resist>item that shreds bullet resist>item that shreds bullet resist>item that negates bullet resist>item that turns your bullets into spirit>item that turns your bullets into spirit and max health damage>item that just straight up steals a percentage of their healthvery fun
>>566700849dev priority for bullet res items is lookin pretty grim, ngland then for metal skin:>>March 21, 2026>Bullet Resist reduced from 15% to 12%.>>January 30, 2026>Cooldown increased from 20s to 24s.>>September 4, 2025>Duration increased from 4s to 5sanother 8 months until metal skin gets any changes, I'm afraid
nox nostra needs to be gutted and its crazy how they allow this cancer every like 55 seconds
>>566700849Because most of the good M1 heroes build hybrid, same as always.
>>566701219when are we getting an anti-anti-resist item for all of these anti-resist items? if we can have our cake (anit-cc items like indom) why can't we also eat it too? (anti-anti-resist items because anti-resist items, having no actual counter to them is kind of fucking stupid. at least you can get healing tempo for anti-heal, or just stack leach, infuser, and vamp together or whatever)
>>566701346yeah but when I get spirit res and bullet res both together it still doesn't matter at all, because at that point in the game one of the bastards prob has crippling headshots, or some other bullshit like siphon bullets that just so happen to make resist items entirely pointless from a game design perspective
>>566701320m1gger seethe
>>566700849>Build escalating exposure>Blow them up anyway>Build disarming hex>Blow them up in 4 seconds
>>566701606What world are you living in where Mina isn't a m1gger
>>566701971mina is too honest to be a m1gger
Against competent players, carrying is *almost* completely impossible in this game. The true cream of the crop, high eternus players can probably do it reliably, but ranking up past oracle through phantom is 100% a product of matchmaking luck. You might get out in a hundred matches, or a thousand.
>>566702119eternus is only top 2% anyone without 1000+ hours can get in
>>566700607We were late to rejuv steal and were scrambling to get away. In the chaos the enemy left their blue walker open. I was left alone with walker for 5 whole seconds and dealt 4.5k damage to it. Wasn't even getting the 2s travel time on my bolts yet but each cast was about 1.3k damage.Neither do you need boundless or rapid recharge, fast charge and some other spirit investment is enough to turn them into wrecking balls.
>>566700316I'll give Yoshi a call right now.
can't wait for doorman to get nerfed even more
>>566702185sure, and if you read my post carefully, you'll see that what I was saying was that how LONG it takes you to get there is out of your hands. It depends entirely on how many smoothbrained, subliterate neanderthals the matchmaker provides you for teammates.
>>566680910>meta pick>Calicolol. lmao, even. She's catshit rn
>>566702831if you can't 1v11 a bunch of oracle retards as viper you deserve to be in oracle
>decide to check out some deadlock tier list videos>one places haze in S tier>another places haze in F tierwhich one was trolling?
>>566680641There are people who think Calico is strong? Are we deadass with this one mr. anon?
>>566702921both of them
>>566702921both because she's middle of the pack
valve needs to let the leakers back in, I need news
This retard in your team on Ritualist rank.Your move?
>>566703041Accept my free win and move onto the next game I guess.
>Make hyperscaling heroes weak early game>Make bursty early game heroes strong early and mid game>Nerf do everything heroes like Dynamo>Game is good againHow is this so fucking difficult
>>566703041>gunlocki hate this gay ass fvcking game
>>566700053>eviscerated by OP SilverHappens to the best of us, anon.
>>566701439Same time we get anti-anti-heali.e. never
>Lose 1 game, lose a rank #>Win 4 games, keep that rank #>Lose 1 game, lose a rank #What, did yoshi get paid off by the eternus elitists to not have any new blood?
I feel like close quarters/point blank is the biggest bait item on close quarters heroes, especially silver
>>566703971Should just be reworked into melee items
>>566703971>premium damage>with slow packaged init's a great item idk what you're talking about
>>566698362Skeleton cab driver should look like this
>>566703449Pocket's gun was always good though
>>566703971And why do you feel like that
there were fucking americans in my comfy EU server and I had some foid play drifter instead of usual unhinged ptsd russian wtf what gives
love getting the inifinite ammo thingy in brawlliterally facetanking the whole enemy team but ricochet and the lifesteal from her tether were outhealing the damage
>>566705184I've had russoids on NA recently
>>566704242You get a better slow with slowing bullets at a time where you would actually start needing it, also good damage and weighted shots is an easier upgradeResto shot is decent damage and heals gives good sustain in laneI was thinking this might be a general thing but it's definitely a Silver thing with how her gun is
when are they disabling hunters aura and torment pulse while you are invisible, so i can buy these items + shadow weave without wanting to kill myself?
>pick 4 of the enemy team off > team says go mid >Mcginnis leaves to push yellow despite walker already being down>Drifter goes to farm>Calico goes in cat form to farm tunnels>3 of us get hassled by an overfed Kelvin and Haze>"Well hey i pushed the yellow lane really hard but they're pushing it back"It's like saying any objective instinctively compels the NA player to do the opposite
>>566703671>and all the victor mains all cried out at oncei think it's still possiblesince indomitable is such a heavy-handed "no fuck you cc" item for all the gamerdads out there
>>566705736if you're in range for either of those to do anything then shadow weave is not making you invisible
>watch haze ult>0 damagethis happens more often than it really should
Any chance the big update is coming before July? I'm really burnt on the current state of the game.
>>566707398it was already confirmed august
The game is lagging too much nowdays, anyone else?
>>566707454Aint no way. Motherfuck ecelebs for taking away the good update timeframes.
>>566702886correct, lol
This fucking piece of shit ludicrously overtuned character has been allowed to get away with way too much under the guise of being "hard to play"
>>566681795>>566681538
>>566708173She's fine in her current state but if she gets any more buffs she will be nigger rape hitler.
>>566706576you are still invisible when close range, they can just see your outline similar to walking around with the cloack and dagger while your invis meter is depleted
>>566707454By who
>>566708173>>566708392I personally find it hilarious that people good at the game already thought she was strong because her ult as it existed was already and amazing pick tool and they've done nothing but buff her sinceThey really said that they should give her:>Wave clear on par with Geist or Paige, that is also a persistent area denial that boosts all of her damage if you get clipped by it (and if you're building for it you don't even need tier 3 duration extender, benefits are negligible past the imbue)>Enough gun damage/synergy to keep up with some gun carries>An infinite range snipe that freezes you in place that both synergizes with and enables her gun, and she can queue it up running into a fight to get to a fight faster>A hilariously low CD pick ult that can yoink you out of pretty much anything you're doing, that also does % max HP damage for "reasons">A shield that both makes anything friendly going through it basically hitscan while also silencing you when she inevitably uses it with her ult, and as an extra fuck you it gives anyone you shoot at through it nearly a full second to step out of the way>Good mobility baseline so if she builds just Stamina Mastery she never has to care about the position of any swap she doesBut HEY YOU GOTTA BE A GOOD SHOT TO PLAY EFFECTIVELY, RIGHT?Too bad as soon as you run into someone who has good aim playing her it's a fucking miserable experience
>>566708173To be fair most of my paradox teammates and opponents are absolute shitters. About 10% of the time you get someone who can use her full kit, in which case they tend to dominate the lobby.
>>566708990Yeah and that's the problem. Most of the time she's a dogshit waste of a slot but when you have the autistic few that know what they're doing she is an absolute nightmare that's ridiculously difficult to deal with to the point that it's just a retarded character design.
How do we save Deadlock? Hard mode: no Ivy smut.
>>566708173Apparently she's hard enough to play that I can't relate to your rage over her, every Paradox I've encountered has been middling at best. I can kinda see on paper how her kit could be really fucking annoying but clearly most people can't use it right.
>>566709264Silver smut
>>566709264draft system and hardware ban anyone with cyrillic in their name or has ever spoken a word of cyrillic to be extra safe ban every ip from Russia
>>566709361based
>>566708173I've been saying that a good Paradox is one of the worst characters tp play against in the game, but good Paradoxes are rare so it's not really recognized.It doesn't help that there's several other characters that are obnoxious to play against but with a low skill ceiling that makes them more popular by proxy.
Just lost due to leaving a wraith farm alone till she was 20k ahead of us, she had like 4 kills in total before that
>>566709982Just gank her bro>TPs halfway across the mapUhh... nevermind then.Balanced.
>>566710229slowing buy slowing and then shoot her are you stupidddddd?
>>566710280>DispellsGuhhhhghfas
>>566709982>>566710229Just win lane against her since she's totally weak early game bro! Just gank her on the absurdly small map that turns any 1v2 into a full on teamfight bro!
>>566710280If this was before the card rework then maybe, but now she can heal off that shit so its cancer.
>>566697019>Vindicta11>SilverDouble what Vindicta needs.
>>566709161same thing with shiv and they'll never change either of them
>>566709982This is what Yoshi is trying to prevent btw. God, I can't wait for the jungle rework. I'll take 24/7 urn broolslop over 24/7 farmslop.
>>566699016most of the universal monsters are in game in one way or another. we're missing a mummy and invisible man.(i'm counting viscous as the creature from black lagoon)
>>566688709skill issue
where is the female wendigo character that's infatuated with the lash YOSHI! it's not complete without a female wendigo character that wants to have sex with the lash YOSHI!!!
>>566688709Literally worthless if your team sucks, even if you go 15 0 you lose if your team is bad.
>>566713623The core issue for her in my games is that she does fuck all objective damage, so its hard to get a good macro lead. You're forced to perma roam and brool hoping your sidelane carry has the brain cells to push waves and not afk t3 camps when you're fighting 1 v 3.
dogshit fucking game how is counterspell not nerfed yet
I haven't played for 2 months, any *MAJOR* meta shifts I should be worried about or has Yoshi mostly been fiddling with hero stats and shit
>>566712827men will look at this and just say wife
>>566708173And you better keep quiet about that if you know what's good for you.
>>566675051>not even an aimbotting russian can reach 70% accuracybro you realise the game flags you for cheating at 70% accuracy right? he's just gaming the system with funny sex number, literally.
>>566708954>her ult>amazing pick toolHaven't you heard? It's a worse Bebop hook :)
>>566674864whenever you get someone who's a tremendous fucking shitter you're almost guaranteed they're tilt queueing back in instantly. take a 15 minute break. go eat something small, stretch, get some fresh air. come back when the retard is in another game.
>>566712827Wife
why doesn't shiv just leave his coat in spawn till the end of the ritual so he can use his left arm?
>>566709264make the pathway for turning a lead into a W sharper. not an issue at higher levels i know. but the majority of players are behind that gamesense/coordination curve, and it leads to a lot of degenerate gamestates where leads trickle away and games stretch on forever.heroes which are strong early but weak late are worthless to play in solo-queue. reactive defensive play is so, so much easier and automatic than anything proactive. pretty much everything proactive you can do is too slow to prevent the enemy from just raw reacting, letting them ez defend an objective or coinflip a fightkill gold scaling and distribution needs to be fucked with. it just functions so oddly right now. being up on kills yet down on souls because of abstract bullshit sucksdraft would be cool. if they want to keep it loose/automatic like it is now though, then maybe something like role queue. not like, hard roles. i just mean let me pick a hero that has a general archetype, and then let me select the archetype i actually want to build for, and let the matchmaker use that to sort teams betterlike if you pick rem the matchmaker goes oh that's a support. but it doesn't know you were dropped on your head and are actually going to build gun rem. or you pick geist and it goes oh that's a mage or nuker or whatever. except you're building her as a gun carrybeing able to indicate to the system what you're actually going for and letting it do some bullshit behind the scenes to weight natural archetypes against indicated intention, and weight that player's patterns against the 'average' roles that hero ends up filling, that would be cool
>>566713806>can't take objectives>can't farmShe's a support hero.
>Mystic Burst>Spirit Strike>Spirit SapVery good early items with insane value>Tank buster>Spirit snatch>Focus LensGame losing items that should count as intentional griefing when bought
>>566715251you seem confused
>>566715251retard
>>566681104>winning games feel pointless if you have bad spmbro literally just buy trophy collector and go make space for your carries on sidelanes
i love passive laners xD np bro go and collect those boxes while i get fisted really i dont mind it if a random player gets to have fun while i dont
does no one play apollo and mina? i get them like every game
>street brawlDON'T CARE
>>566715251german post
>>566715510You're supposed to collect boxes too Listen if you're up against a apollo laning against him is a exercise in futility, may as well try to eke out extra souls while not feeding him kills.
>>566661354
>>566693658>get retarded russian vindicta>literally just runs it the fuck down and dies 5 times in a row within 4 minutes>not even attempting to farm>"FACKEN NOOB DODGE DEADLOCK FACKER DODGE THIS GAME DODGE THIS GAME">open my mic>"you're a retarded alcoholic nigger who is so bad at the one thing he does with his life that he's literally used in an algorithm to force losses for engagement">he ragequits>match doesn't countYOU'RE WELCOME
>>566697719>supposedly abolishing traditional MOBA roles while simultaneously trying to shoehorn heroes into those exact rolesNOWHERE, EVER, did they say this was a thing. it's just retarded brown overwatch players thinking they're geniuses by playing the poorly scaling hero as... le carry!
>>566697601There is foxes on the outskirts of new york...
>>566716326>he ragequits>match doesn't countnot all heroes wear capes
>>566716560>hero shooter npcs>attempting creative problem solvinggood oneoverwatch players despise itemization and the fact that people can counter buy. they'd much prefer a strict, role based system
>>566714785well this vindicta never got banned so even if there is a detection system i doubt the venator gave a shit about it
No patch till August? Its over.
>>566717132well jungle patch is confirmed to not come till augustthere might be tiny balance changes here and there
Venator traps should have unlimited life time to buff his spirit gameplay
>>566709264Nerf victor seven and dynamo, buff graves venator and rem.Add actual objectives and rework the jungle systemAdd some other modes
is it true that ice frog is in charge of this game?
I've lost like 4 times now but I haven't gotten demoted, but then I was key player in all of them while the entire team fed horribly. It wasn't even "they were brooling noooooooo" they really just have retarded map awareness and got caught out of position 10+x
>>566717427Also add an actual practice mode for aiming
>play silver>get ult ready>spam to pop it early>transformation time is too slow and I die anyway
>>566717524everything from items to hero lines are from the same frozen toad. anyone coming outside of dota, valve, will deny and say "THIS CANT WORK LIKE A MOBA" when he already is proving people wrong with this game just plainly existing.
mid may is the anniversary of when things got leaked and people sat around for invites back from 2024!
>>566719487Dang. I still remember when you could check when you got the account on the forums but hadn't gotten access to the game yet or your login information after someone invited you. I was so excited :^). Can't believe it's been two years already.
Why do people play this game as a m1gger. How mentally ill do you have to be to be a m1gger
>>566714687Nope still the same bullshit characters
>Celeste goes 0/8 during the early and mid game>Somehow turns into Hitler and keeps wiping the enemy teamMind you I did keep hitting massive chain gangs with her ult up so it kept bouncing everywhere, but holy shitWould have felt bad if the enemy didn't have a cancer lineup of Mina/Lash/Victor/Pocket/Bebop/Vis
>>566721234Yeah fuck that lineup, surprised you clutched it up
>>566693797>why do people project so much in this gamethis is massively true>retarded pocket is feeding vindicta>HOW HAS NO ONE BOUGHT KNOCKDOWN YET>its at like 10 minutes and I've been doing fine without it I've barely seen the Vindicta so i didnt see the need to yet>ask him why he hasn't>he goes erm im buying the items that you guys arent buying!>typical pocket build with CS, Cold front Etc etc>tell him no its because you're following some retarded build guide>he goes off and goes 'n-no that's what y-you're doing and continues feeding
>>566720595i don't know, my friend who mains spirit heroes is literally always edging an aneurysm in any game we playi think this is projection, coming from a place of unmanaged seethe. me, i am le chill. le relaxed, just having a good time shooting my opponents
>>566721316For context this was our team line up, legit miracle we somehow managed to turn this into a win. The ivy was running a melee/tank build too like a giga chad, he did his job so fair enough. Meme builds are fine if you lock in.
>>566721609It's kind of a meme but Ivy can do insane levels of self heal with lifesteal thanks to her 2. Also yeah grats your composition looks really bad
spirittroons are always complaining about m1, you never hear m1GAWDS complain about spirittroons
Yes?
>>566722191are you fucking serious
I have a feeling this will get nerfed.
>>566722937Image didn't really age well since lash is a m1 now lol
>>566723014>m1 is when you buy utility oranges to compliment your playstyle
They need to firm up Abrams' tail, it looks too floppy in a way that is unrealistic for how flexible tails really can be
>>566723158like I'm pretty sure lash players just buy like recharging rush, headhunter, slowing bullets maybe a siphon bullets later.>buy titanic mag slowing bullets weakening headshot on a support ivydoes that make me a m1
>enemy team has more premutes>win game by a landslidewhat a surprise.
>If we work together, anything is possible :)>IS THAT A NIGXIAN OUTSIDE DURING CURFEW?? AAWWGGHHH FACE ME OR DIE!!! ALCHEMICAL FLASK!!! DECISIONS DECISIONS!! I WILL NOT YIELD!!! CATCH!!!
>we're going to let you ban one character >but also only 2/12 people per match get to ban somebody>and who we pick is random every time>and also if your character is banned you have to play some shit you didn't want to instead of just keeping you in queuewhere does valve buy their crack
Do you think Infernus would get mad if you called him a Nigger instead of a Nigxian?
>>566724379he'd go >heh thats funny now what are you drinkinghe doesnt seem like the type of black man to even give a shit desu
Yamato is pretty fun, her ult is literally just eshift + refresher.
Uber Entertainment needs to bring back Super Monday Night Combat or make Mega Monday Night Combat to compete with Deadlock
>>566724379i think he would be more offended by the latter. he doesn't see himself as an ixian, he sees himself as a new yorker
>>566723231The tails look bad in general, humans have a tailbone where our tails use to come from. Ixians are humanoids with the same bone structure as us. Why does Apollo's tail not come from his tail bone but instead the middle of his back?
>>566723014Lash Bros can't aim and still try to play him as a spirit nuker though; It fits still.
>>566725078Well the human tailbone (coccyx) is much more anterior compared to other animals, plus the tailbone in humans and apes is at the very end of the spine, whereas in tailed mammals, the tail originates from the sacrum -> coccygeal vertebrae (see attached image).
>>566725802*Caudal vertebrae are what tails are composed of, coccygeal vertebrae are what the spine fuses into to create the tailbone in humans
>>566725078>>566725802So basically what I'm saying, is that Ixian bone structure might either completely lack a coccyx or they developed a coccyx alongside their tail The former is unlikely, since tailbones are quite important for stability and bearing weight and anchoring muscles / tendons On the other hand, evolving both simultaneously is probably impossible, but its a video game so whatever
>>566717708There's 5 idiots in the opposing team but only 4 on your side.
>get rusnigs on team>loseWhy are these "people" allowed to play with humans?
>>566725078It also makes no sense that Apollo and Abrams both have horns and tails, but Infernus doesn't.
>>566727746Infernus should of never been Ixian and just been a Fiery Magical Negroe.
>>566726959they act like total fucking cocksuckers too and then go "NOOO WTF WHY ARENT YOU MAD THAT ANOTHER COMPANY FORBID ME FROM BUYING A PRODUCT?! FUCK NOOOOOBBBBBBB!"
>>566726959did something happen in the last few days to cause the roaches to leak into NA servers? i'm seeing way more than normal.
>internus has no hornsuh because he hides it in his hat double d style and hides his tail because he's sick of being ix*an.
>get literal subhuman teammates 20 games in a row>my main goes from green arrows to double red arrows because I can't carry 5 retards against 6 fed niggersFUN GAME
>>566728915if humans had tails im sure some would cut them off I mean do ixians need tails? as for the horns i dunno could've surgically removed em
>>566729013>my main goes from green arrows to double red arrows because I can't carry 5 retards against 6 fed niggerswho are you playing?
>>566723158m1 is when most of your damage is gun damage or gun related procsWhich lash does now.
Billy is so garbage
>>566729140Silver, literally can't carry niggers that are too retarded to hit buildings or teamfight
>>566729441But she CAN carry with intense cuteness
>>566729441okay thats valid yeah
>>566727746A model of him in the game files has a tail. I suspect he will get a remodel with a tail.
>>566729531r3mgger is the new meta
>>566729662I don't think Shiv would, actually
>>566729662end your existence
bread me!
>>566729662Is Silver the pet in this scenario, or the owner?Or both at the same time?
>>566717292This, but they'll probably need to put a max number of active traps at once.Also, lower cd between charges, it would be a world better if you could set 3 traps in 9 seconds instead of 18.Spirit Venator has such a funny unique gameplay, the closest thing to Trapper.
>>566724038the crack store, obviously
>>566721348why are almost all pocket players so retardedly ass at this gametheir kda ratio is always in the fucking gutter and I can never figure out why
>>566730656He is the only spirit nuker that is genuinely squishy, you can easily mess up your escape options unlike Mina or Apollo.Doesn't help that Vindicta absolutely rapes him, one of his worst matchups.
>>566723014Almost everyone is an m1gger, or plays like a hybrid m1gger now.Spirit nuking is dead and, I have my concerns that Yoshi isn't going to bring it back.
https://youtu.be/5RhzrMYQ1H8?si=BwrVpVGEM-5yYYbv&t=2361Silver sisters...
>>566730994We're in a hybrid meta now and it completely sucks variety out of the game. Feels as if this was the intention ever since the investment spike changes, pretty much a roundabout way to bring the old shop system back.
I was deadlock matchmaking's strongest soldier last night what the FUCK is this
>>566729730Judging by silver's hateboner for him and his ties to drifter i hope his backstory leans heavy into gore and torture, doesn't have to be graphic as long as it's implied clearly
>>566731082>I need to watch out for my health>Arguing with my heath, who are not as educated as I am, is not something I should dothis is something Apollo would unironically fucking say, dear lordall this microdick pompousness for a valve mcshooty game
>>566731082>Silver is OP>i'm too important to explain it to youThis nigger posts here, doesn't he
>>566729662>Ivy>not vanillaShe's legit too innocent to be anything but vanilla.
>>566731396>>my dick is too big you wouldn't get it
>>566731396SHES LE OP OKAYI WILL NOT EXPLAIN BECAUSE ITS BAD FOR MY HEALTH
>>566731396He says this and then explains it anyway but you're too much of a faggot to listen
>>566731082>silver is overpowered, I don't feel the need to explain why>you'll figure it out one day, I hope sogood fucking lord why are all of the "top" level players in this game absolute fucking assholes? eido's an asshole, vegas is an asshole, metro's absolutely an assholeI like to hate on joe chuck but for all the shit squealing he does about deadlock, he's completely right when he says that most of the pros in this game are toxic little faggots
The Silver SSS++++ shit is an attempt to manipulate the enemy team into picking a throw character.
>>566731854Your throw character, sir
>>566731854see>>566583958
>>566731840theyre insecure because they know theyll be yesterdays news when actual pros come to the scene and distill the game to unfunnery
>>566731997>Not even 1000 matchesUpplayers aren't even trying anymore.
>>566731854I'm convinced she just collectively brainbroke the entire community at all levels of skill due to her sheer animal magnetism
New thread...doko...
>>566731997wr stats are a spook, and always have been
>>566731840Vegas is an asshole but he then goes on to spend several minutes explaining why she's broken
>>566732260Winrate fags be like>UHHH... SILVER OP! ALSO BUFF SHIV AND GT BECAUSE LE LOW WINRATE!The shamelessness is off the charts.
>>566732260>Throw pick implies high odds of losing>Mysteriously wins more than 98% of the other heroes in the game>This means nothing according to the Seekertard
>>566731357>Some chud talking about Silver>I HAVE to make this about Apollo somehow Is this what they mean by rent free?
>>566730656the morons dont realise pocket has innate -spirit resistance so they get nuked by everything
>>566732392>if you can't comprehend that, you're low elo>if you can't comprehend that, you're low elo>if you can't comprehend that>if you can't comprehend that, I can't go futher with this tier list>if you can't comprehend thatthis silver explanation of his is kinda painful to sit through regardlessI bet his dad hit him when he was a little kid
>>566732260>>566732416Where did all this complaining about winrates as a statistic come from? You'd never see anyone doing this back in the heyday of /d2g/ for god's sake. And even there people recognized that pros and shitters play a different game while still acknowledging that high winrates correlate with generally highly effective heroes
>>566732527no I just thought it was something in-character thta was fitting for ApolloI wasn't trynna dunk on himbesides the dude's only really a threat in seeker rank so I duncar bout him in-game too much
Guys lets buff the hero with 4 stamina, free curse, Infinite spirit scaling and a 22%hp drone execute on a 40 second cooldown. Look at his winrate!
>>566732778see>>566732813winrate algos for deadlock are pretty shit right now for whatever reason, and don't actually reflect reality most of the time
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>>566727746They could just be filed short. He does wear a hat. Or he could be nigga hellboy.
