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Maverick edition

Thread Theme: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BeLV-t4_WJs
Previous Mission:>>564739728

>AC7/8 on Steam
https://store.steampowered.com/app/502500 (AC7)
https://store.steampowered.com/app/2288340 (AC8)
>/aceg/ Emulation Guide
https://rentry.org/ybyx6
>Official /aceg/ multiplayer guide
https://rentry.org/acegMPguide
>/aceg/ livery and emblem pack
https://rentry.org/3tokr
>Ace Combat 3: A New Translation
https://pastebin.com/i6sfa9aK
>Encyclopedia Strangereal
http://www.encycstra.net/
>New /aceg/ MEGA
https://pastebin.com/aYYx2UKm
>PA Twitter (JP)
https://twitter.com/PROJECT_ACES
>PA Twitter (ENG)
https://twitter.com/AceCombatGames
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Flat spin.
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>AC7:
Shootout Saturday is back! /aceg/ rooms are open every Sat at 2030 CEST/1430 EDT, with only three rules:
>Put /aceg/ in your tag before game for IFF purposes
>no EML/QAAM/SASM
>in Roca Roja, use only air-to-ground weapons in the tunnel

>Resources:
https://pastebin.com/Xbb41nvV
https://rentry.org/ho8mm
>OP Template
https://pastebin.com/e9PNHDcD

Project Wingman:
>Store page
https://pastebin.com/NBXczRv8
>Skin/texture modding guide
https://pastebin.com/ykPhc6hn

Misc Stuff:
>/aceg/ Collage
https://i.imgur.com/wP9NNDv.png
>/aceg/ Story Archive 2.0
https://pastebin.com/1FLC4YyV
>Razgriz Patch Guy
https://www.strangerealpatches.com/
>Ostrich's Mods
https://superostrich.xyz/
>/aceg/ Assault Records
https://pastebin.com/CrfiDhxM
>ACX / ACJA Online Netplay Guide
https://pastebin.com/Pk1aJsTx

>SPECIAL MESSAGE TO /aceg/ FROM PIXY:
https://www.cameo.com/v/qSL5bOosg

>What happened to Sean Ryan (Pixy's actor) after ACZ:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qat5kEtrrpk

>/aceg/ Permalink:
http://orph.link/aceg

Because it bears repeating:
>Skill and guts are required here
>Be a buddy, not a border
>All planes are beautiful dreams
>DELAY THE FINAL ATTACK

FAQ:
>Has the Project Wingman update dropped yet?
Haha...

>Is there any AC8 news yet?
YES! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQYx_867ua0

>Has a PS2 trilogy remake been announced yet?
No.
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I have no idea why it kept saying field to long it should have been under the text limit.
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>>566676132
Eject! eject!
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https://x.com/Fleetwood_Zak/status/2053879184217235952
im crine ts really is just someones really faggy PW fanfic it even has the press X to PSM at any airspeed mechanic
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>Japanese adorably confuse knights and samurai
>Belkan Knights are just Samurai including Pixy following bushido code which is why he can still call Chiper his buddy after that huge mess of an ending
>B7R is an unintentional nod to Ganryƫ island
The best parts of Zero are just Ganryƫ Duels. Fuck. low-key samurai game kino
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>>566685131
So what's the Zero equivalent of a boat oar?
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>>566686430
Mitsubishi F-1
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>>566686430
technically showing up in an F-15C to fight gault/wizard/sorcerer since they're mostly high gen fighters, or to make it slow as fuck ignoring canon - an a-10
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You are still working on your pilots license right Anon?
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>>566688856
Nah man, I've watched a handful of accident report videos and if I ever step into a cockpit, I'm gonna be the star of one of those. I don't have the patience or diligence to fly unfortunately. Hell I get overwhelmed and lose my bearings all the time in Ace Combat even when I'm in 3rd person view.
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>>566685131
Knights and samurai were functionally the same type of assholes.
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>>566699905
Nah knights are simps for spoiled girls.
Samurai are fucking gay.
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>>566686430
>>566688839
the Musashi story is very funny because many people read it surface level as "he's such a good swordsman he can beat a guy who has a real sword using an oar"
when it's actually more like "Musashi intentionally shows up late to psych out his opponent and throw him off his game, blinds Kojiro with the sunlight, and then brutally beats him to death with a blunt object" (and iirc Kojiro's combat style was basically just "use your insanely long sword to keep distance and either slowly chip away at your opponent and win through attrition or disembowel him and keep away until he bleeds out", not very honorable either)
because a wildly famous swordsman in that time period being undefeated doesn't mean he's good, it just means he only takes fights he knows he can win (by hook or by crook) and cowards out from fights he can't; Musashi's reputation as a peerless swordsman is somewhat of a modern creation afaik, up until the late 19th/early 20th century he was primarily respected as a philosopher and strategist for that very reason
yes this means that fgo's big titty bisexual drunkard murderhobo female musashi is actually rather accurate
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Is this the right thread to post?
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>>566709549
to post what? a completely unrelated drawing by some literally who?
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>>566710378
anon...
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>>566713019
>a picture of some anime turds and a cat on a boat is ace combat because there's a big carrier sinking in the background like in that one cutscene
no
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>>566685131
>bushido code
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>>566709549
>This is my victory I have got those girls to the track
>They shall defeat those Belkan horsegirls now
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>>566726178
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2nd trailer WHEN
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I started playing the Ace Combat Legacy+ for 3DS. Fun so far and simple enough. Maybe I should play the PS1 games after this one
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>>566713019
He's right though you posted some anime shit that has nothing to do with Ace Combat.
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>>566713776
>>566749776
nta didnt post that pic buddy
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>>566749776
I'll take what is a parody or crossover image for $200 Alex
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All of this could have been avoided if that anon had either just posted the image or said 'hey look at this silly Umamusume-Ace Combat art I found'. It's really nice art too, it's shot for shot with the scene of the Kestrel sinking. Also are we really going to pretend a good half of the posts here aren't off-topic or stretching the definiton of on-topic quite a bit to keep the place bumped?
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>>566756197
Yes, some anons forget this is a weeb board full of weebs.
Back to planes BDSM time
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Land boat
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Kono posting time
https://x.com/kazutoki/status/2053785428961161266
>This is the *ACE COMBAT/S: The Symphony – 30th Anniversary Concert Album*!
I suppose the full title is *Ace Combat S: The Symphony – 30th Anniversary Concert Album*... It almost sounds like Mihaly's real name.
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>>566756197
Jet planes are on topic because they're actual planes in AC
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>>566688856
Vision's not good enough and don't got the dosh to get one.
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>>566762128
>It almost sounds like Mihaly's real name.
Ace Combat S: The Symphony – 30th Anniversary ACE COMBAT Series & C Bandai Namco Entertaiment Inc. Concert Album
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Once again the USAF is drawing up plans to replace the B-52
>They will reach the same conclusion as last time
>When the time comes in 2050 we'll just pump her full of nanomachines and call it done.
BUFF shall be eternal
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>>566772839
how much of the currently operative B-52 is still original parts from the 50s and 60s? i mean obviously stuff like engines, electronics and avionics would all be new/modern, but the skin? fuselage panels, wing spars, all that? is all of that 60-70 year old metal or has it all been replaced too? are all these basically planes of theseus at this point?
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>>566772839
well give the defense contractors another $10 billion to make parts for the b52 parts
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>>566768541
You forgot to put the year of production at the end.
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>>566762130
remember when we had namefags blogposting about their fucking dinner or w/e back in the day
bleak period in the general, thankfully most of them have fucked off
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>>566773287
Maybe the seats or some cup holders? The youngest BUFF was built in 1962. So umm yeah I guess you could call her that.
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>>566772839
I mean B-21 if they don't again cancel like 90% of the orders again It'll at least push the B-52 to a pure conventional role and fully denuclearized
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>>566777329
Ah yes the green ham anon and also pic related that one anon drew this after another anon talked about his mistake one night.
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>>566777329
I do. I get being friendly and all but fucking hell I don't know your sorry conceited ass, I'm here for Ace Combat and jets not (You)
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>final mission is simply called "aces"
perfect
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Austria attempts to make the Typhoon look cool by doing a Quick response demonstration
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r7W8GI0nbjY
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>>566777647
Yeah about that.........B-52 is getting brand new nuclear missiles the AGM-181 are being tested with her. If it can fly it shall be able to carry the sun.
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>Hornet on the top is #444
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So today I read the Saudi and UAE carried out some strikes in Iran
>Tornado are still in use in SA
>It may turn out the final kills this girl ever gets are killing Persians.

And Israel is doing Ace Combat 7 shit by building a secret air bases in Iraq to launch attacks into Iran.
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>>566788847
Iran got up to some ace combat shit itself, low level bombing runs with their rusty old F-5s, Phantoms scraping with F-16s
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>>566772839
the end of the soviet union and its effects on the health of the US military industrial complex is an enormous topic which needs to be thoroughly studied
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>>566790798
turns out competition was healthy and letting the US economy autocannibalize itself over the past 30 years might have been a mistake
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>>566791023
>letting the US economy autocannibalize itself
that's another thing, that is arguably the worst thing that has ever happened to US geopolitical power in its entire history and yet nobody talks about it or writes books about it or anything
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>>566791278
We need a good enemy to keep us busy and focused otherwise well......looks around.....yeah.....
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Actually speaking of the Iran war, for some reason recently a Hornet strafed a cargo vessel attempting to run Schrodinger's Blockade. Apparently hit the rudder? I wonder what kind of circumstances have to come for the Navy to decide that strafing a boat with a fighter plane like it's World War 2 again is a good idea. I guess there weren't any destroyers in the area. That's been the most interesting plane related thing to come out of that war recently though, I just thought it was funny more than anything.
>>566791023
>>566792137
America ruled the world uncontested for about 15 years after the Soviet Union clickclacked itself and then 2008 ended that in one fell swoop. If I ever get a time machine I'm going back in time to strangle every single fucking neocon and neolib shitheel as I can get my hands on before the feds kill me. I'd rather go back to 1945 and force the US to counterinvade the Soviet Union and implement Total Communist Death but the former seems more achievable. Funny that I only realized that I'm a jingoistic, imperialist lunatic after seeing America do everything in its power to piss away an empire. You really don't know what ya go 'til it's gone, buddy.

Anyways planes! I like planes. Planes are cool. I need 8 to come out soon so I can have something to distract myself from the absolute fucking state of the world. Last thing I need is to make this place a dumping ground for my all of my doomposting.
>>566799902
<<FIRE AWAY, COWARD!>>
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I'm really curious how they're going to handle the F-4 in 8. Do you think we'll finally get an actual carrier variant of it or do you think they'll just reuse the weird hybrid F-4E? Personally I just hope it has a better special weapon loadout this time. Like at least give it SAAMs.
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>>566800582
i think you are forgetting a very big event in 2001 and a better use of a time machine would be to curb stomp marx in 1818, thereby preventing the entirety of the communist virus from ever being thought of, if that isnt achievable, preventing the sinking of the titantic would probably stop the great depression since it carried opponents to the creation of the federal reserve when it was sunk by an ice(((berg)))
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>>566800853
>F-4
>SAAM
they tried that out in ACZ but I don't remember anyone using the heavy jet as a dogfighter
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>>566804783
>since it carried opponents to the creation of the federal reserve when it was sunk by an ice(((berg)))
what's the deal with that theory, anyway? they sunk an entire cruise ship on purpose?
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A weird thought that I had which I think is accurate: the Raptor is the largest combat vehicle in the world that is operated entirely by a single crew member. I kind of expected that to be the case for aircraft, but it occurred to me that all the larger land and sea vehicles I can think of are all intended to operate with multiple crew.
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>>566815182
Wouldn't the one-seater Flanker also qualify since it's a single-crew aircraft but longer and with a wider wingspan?
I'd imagine there are other single-seaters somewhere in history that were probably larger to serve some kind of role outside of air superiority.
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>>566815182
>>566815570
I mean if you want some real long plens you get into weird prototype things like the X-59. The U-2 is also pretty long. Plus with Flankers, the SU-33 has a wider wingspan than the non-carrier variants.
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>>566815570
Oh good call, I always forgot how fucking huge those are. And if you broaden it outside of combat roles, I agree with >>566815902, it'd probably be the U-2.

Thinking about it does make me think of a different stat now though, aircraft cost per crew member, and maybe I find that even more interesting to think about. The B-2 probably beats it out, but it's split across two crew. The Raptor, meanwhile, that's basically a 200 million dollar incremental cost you're entrusting to a single a human being, which is kind of wild in that frame.
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>>566815902
>X-59
the fucks the use case for this? what the hell were the design considerations?
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>>566816667
long spiky nose to cancel out sonic booms so they can finally start having overland commercial supersonic flight
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>>566816667
It's a test bed trying to reduce how loud a sonic boom and potentially be a step towards lifting the ban on overland supersonic transport. It also has an EVS system with cameras to let the pilot see through the nose to compensate for the lacking cockpit visibility. Also funny part is that the actual cockpit is taken from a T-38 and the landing gear from an F-16.
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>>566817243
COFFIN system here we come.
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>>566817243
>Also funny part is that the actual cockpit is taken from a T-38 and the landing gear from an F-16.
even funnier thing is that this was meant to reduce costs but resulted in technical issues that lead to program delays because an F-16 landing gear has all sorts of sensors in it that dont play nice with things not F-16 shaped
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>>566817035
>>566817243
ok, thats interesting and cool but whats the use case for supersonic commercial flight? what needs to be transported that fast? its not people otherwise concorde would still be around
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>>566817316
Between this and the stuff the most up to date F-35s have we're a lot closer than I thought we were.
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>>566817746
>concorde would still be around
Concorde died because of the trifecta of 9/11, a single high-profile accident and general bans from overland flights because of the aformentioned gigaloud sonic booms.
Wealthy people were more than willing to pay for mid-air luxury service while halving their air commute times.
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>>566817746
What >>566818078 said, but I'll add in some context, because it's not like a little quieter than a Concorde, their projection is that even at mach 1.4 it'd be 16 times quieter than a Concorde, about as loud as closing a car door.
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>>566816667
popping spy balloons
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>>566756197
Is it really required to yell at the ace combat general that something is an ace combat reference
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>>566818078
No, Concorde died because it was hellaciously expensive. Of the two airlines to operate it, only one ever made a profit, and it was heavily subsidized by the British government.

Boom is retarded, and every time they try and make themselves unretarded, they just dig a deeper hole.
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>>566828257
>because it was hellaciously expensive
In part because it wasn't allowed to fly supersonic over land, reducing it to operate very few routes therefore making less money
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>>566828257
>hellaciously expensive
Because they were limited to transoceanic flight routes while ticket sales dropped due to 9/11 in general and Air France 4590 in particular.
>only one ever made a profit
Because they sold it to wealthy people who were willing to pay a premium for considerably shorter luxury flights.
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>>566817243
pointy boi
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i have absolutely no idea how anyone thinks 4 or zero are the best games in the golden trinity
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>>566833640
Four Horsemen alone invalidates 5 from the running.
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>>566833640
4 is the easiest to just pick up and get in to. Zero has the best overall gameplay and most replayability.
5 is the best if you're playing the games on YouTube.
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>>566838669
>Four Horsemen
don't tell me that people had trouble with that mission, lmao

>>566838908
i don't agree with either of those, although my thoughts on 4 being the easiest to pick up and play are muddied by the fact that i recently played all 3 in a row starting with 4 and ending with zero so i'm not sure if i just got used to the controls or if the controls in the later games were just easier to play with
i'm also not sure about zero having the most replayability mostly due to the fact that 5 has like 10 missions more and a larger variety of gameplay within the missions; i guess zero is more of a completionist's game
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>>566817316
YES!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gR4Xuslczoo

>>566828257
A company that is ready and waiting for overland supersonic flights isn't a retard they are just ahead of the game. So far everything NASA is doing is telling us yes this is going to work
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>>566840360
>Four Horsemen
>trouble
I mean yeah? It's different from the other missions in game. I don't even remember mission in other games that required you to synchronize stuff with AI teammates. Usually it's just blast through at full speed and the ally will automatically finish their side.
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>>566842621
>synchronize
You have almost 5 seconds after Nagase says fire to destroy the radar. Its easy to learn the timing to the point you can do it with your brain off. As gimmick missions go its not that bad. Its not even the worst gimmick mission in 5. Let alone reaching the level of Time Limit
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>>566840360
>trouble
It's not troublesome, it's just tedious and mind-numbingly boring.
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>>566833640
Zero I can understand but 4 is such a turd compared to 5 and Zero it's not even funny.
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>>566844156
>mind-numbingly boring.
Just like 90% of missions in 4 then
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>>566852656
>>566852790
>trying to shit on 4
Somehow this seems more lame they when it was "cool" to shit on 5.
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The trinity is sacred, tribalism is cringe.
All 3 games are incredible.
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>>566855415
I don't give two shits if it's cool or uncool. It's my opinion and I'm glad it offends you.
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>>566857128
There's been an awful lot of tardy baiting about muh 4 muh 5 muh Zero since 8's announcement.
I think /v/ might have spilled over and some flecks of shit got stuck.
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there's nothing wrong with criticizing the ps2 games for the flaws they do have, this is videogames not religion
I like all AC games I've played except JA I don't count AssHorizon cause I uninstalled before even finishing the first mission, but my personal "holy trinity" would be 5, X and 0
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I love women buddies
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I can get not putting 4 as the best, but you are just baiting if you call it bad.
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>>566858821
Time to let you down it doesn't offend me at all
I'm not a twittertard I don't get offended over opinions. Even when they are wrong
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>>566872360
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Think we'll get Top Gun 3 DLC in 8 at some point?
<- Yes No->
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>>566886332
hopefully not
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>>566886332
I would only want this if it gives us the MiG-28, because frankly I'm not sure the F-5 would ever show up again otherwise. I really hope the fact that the Endurance is an older carrier and having the A-6 back means we get more boomer planes this time around.
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>>566878864
Never realized the F-2 had a drogue parachute.
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>>566857128
>>566861262
all 3 games are great, yeah, but there's obviously elements within each game that are better than the others and that's why people have a favourite
as far as i can understand/see, 5 is just the overall best package, even if it has some tedious missions, the good stuff about it overwhelms those
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>>566893141
5, despite having the most missions, with many of these being duds, has the worst pacing of the three. The story is cheesy with the most hamfisted themes in the entire series, and no matter how much people hide its flaws behind cheesy 00s anime nostalgia there is a moment where the characters really should just shut the fuck up. It also has the worst final mission of the three. I still love it and some days if you ask me, I could still say its my favorite. But for me, its nowhere close to a best overall package type of deal.
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nigga talking about bad pacing like the narrative in 0 isn't all over the place
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The best thing 5 did was have a very fun meme plane. More Ace Combat games should have very fun meme planes, it'd be hilarious to have both an F-5 and a MiG-28 with cranked up stats.
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>>566897375
Now show me a webm of how that plane handles.
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>>566894431
>with many of these being duds
a few of them can be written off, i agree, but there's still more good missions in 5 than in either 4 or zero

>has the worst pacing of the three
i kind of agree but is that really a major dealbreaker? maybe i need to replay it to "get it" because i've heard that a lot of the plot points are nonsensical when you actually apply logic to it which i guess i missed out on due to focusing mostly (but not entirely) on the missions but looking back on it, it's hard for me to say how much better the game would be if the pacing were perfect, even. i guess i haven't fully formed my thoughts on that part yet

>The story is cheesy with the most hamfisted themes in the entire series, and no matter how much people hide its flaws behind cheesy 00s anime nostalgia
this is another thing i don't really understand - it's a bit melodramatic and some themes are exaggerated but why exactly is that a negative? i don't understand but maybe i'm just biased towards emotionality

>It also has the worst final mission of the three
true but the song that plays during the SOLG shootdown is better than 4's and dare i say even rivals zero's

>I still love it and some days if you ask me, I could still say its my favorite
if you don't think it's the best overall package then why is it your favourite on those days?
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>>566898179
>Now show me a webm of how that plane handles.
It's a combination of three mods. One that gives the F-16 better stats than the PW Mk-1 and access to all weapons, one that gives it a McDonald's skin, and the Prez mod that also gives her a seat in single seaters. At least I think it was that Prez mod, been a couple years and getting all the mods to play together was janky but it resulted in the most fun Merc playthrough I ever had for that game.
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>>566898331
>if you don't think it's the best overall package then why is it your favourite on those days?
Because, as you said, each game has elements that are better than the others, and in some days, these elements get the best out of me.

I love 04's presentation, flight model, overall mission design, and soundtrack which despite not having Unsung War or Zero, is way more memorable for me through every mission in the series

I love 5's plane variants and high moments that I will sadly never experience them again for the first time

I love Zero's ace mechanics and its attempt at telling a grittier story while still retaining AC's feeling at its core
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What's the toughest enemy in Ace Combat and why is it the ground?
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>>566903740
No no its this guy right here.
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>>566903740
The greatest enemy in Ace Combat is my near total lack of spatial awareness.
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>>566904427
Found it I knew I had it somewhere
Proof he is the strongest.
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>still no way to play ace combat 6 reliably without janky emulation
ugh



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