/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots#806 - Headache medicine Edition▶https://rentry.org/aicg_vg_memo▶This general is for discussion of the interactive experiences you can build on top of AI chatbots.>NewsBotBrowser Extension leaks keys https://rentry.co/st-backdoorDeepseek V4 https://huggingface.co/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-V4-Pro/blob/main/DeepSeek_V4.pdfGPT-5.5 https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-5-5Kimi K2.6 https://www.kimi.com/blog/kimi-k2-6Claude Opus 4.7 https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-opus-4-7GPT-5.4 https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-5-4additional info: https://aicg.neocities.org/info>FrontendsSillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.appRisuAI: https://risuai.netAgnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_>Botshttps://characterhub.org | https://chub.aihttps://realm.risuai.nethttps://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.orghttps://aicg.neocities.org/bots>Modelsjailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listinggpt: https://platform.openai.com/playground | https://platform.openai.com/docsclaude: https://console.anthropic.com | https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claudegemini: https://gemini.google.com | https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qrdeepseek: https://chat.deepseek.com | https://api-docs.deepseek.comlocal: >>>/g/lmg | https://aicg.neocities.org/local | https://openrouter.ai>Botmakinghttps://aicg.neocities.org/botmakinghttps://desune.moe/aicharedhttps://agnai.chat/editor>MetaOP templates: https://rentry.org/vgOP | https://rentry.org/aicgOPaicg botmaking events: https://aicg.neocities.org/eventslore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chroniclesrice: https://aicg.neocities.org/ricingservices assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_metalogs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.orgPrev: >>566572062
ANCHOR
>>566679239 (Me)AISHIJI EVENT ANCHORI SUCK WEST AISHIJI COCKS
EVENT ANCHOR,The Warring States of AishijiPlease try to keep event discussion chained in reply to this post.
>>566679462>>566679430i'm not getting any emails bweehh...
ANOTHER EVENT ANCHOR
>>566679462sex with mazuna
better one of u faggots delete one of the anchors
>>566679239The Final Solution to AI Wives! | Erika[7 Intros, Male POV] Erika is an unironic Nazi and White supremacist. She wants her people to wake up and reclaim their country! Retaining her anonymity, she plays her part by sharing memes and information online, but will take her place as a mother for the right man.Futa https://chub.ai/characters/futanazi/erika-f6dfeee4dac9Femalehttps://chub.ai/characters/futanazi/erika-593dc70ad407
>>566679858mine is for "another" event. it's not related to the other thing.
oh look /g/ has arrived
>>566680010just the same lil shartling doing his song and dance before bed time again
>>566679768this is the part we've all been dreading: actually having to sit our ass down to work
i want a nice clean thread below this point ok
>>566679462Which generals haven't been revealed yet? Come on, I know you've got gens hiding somewhere.
yes my raccoon mistress…
>>566679462Alright, everybody: what's going on in your little corner of the world?Through a complex multi-region cooperation, the inchlings have acquired giant hornet and spider eggs. We're talking dog-sized, here.Estimates on domestication are a 50% survival rate.
>>566679462>>566675391>the angel is kind of playing a longer game: so ok, we get a new shogun... then what? what happens next? what's stopping turmoil from happening again? something must change at the root"and then what", he says, like it isn't obvious.
>>566680743You fucking idiot
>>566680387i gift my gens only to states who contact me :3
>>566572062
>>566679217This suggestion, and the last, and the one before that? All mine. Bow before your RNGOD
>>566681082Thank you hostie
>>566680970Hey, some of the inchlings will survive! Hopefully!The mounts are of dubious use, but they're cool!
duck.ai updated their API now the program I was using to create an openai-style api using it isnt working and I'm too lazy to fix it by myself
>>566681256THAT'S NOT WHAT I MEANCHECK YOUR EMAIL AAAAAA
>>566681224Hey, hey. *Snaps my fingers in front of your face.* The suggestion previous to the last had to be rerolled, buddy.
>>566680958I say we rape the angel
>>566680983That's sooo mean! I bet you're with the Wildgrowth.
>>566681623I agree.I hear Shinitaru has lots of kemonomimi and even force them to have "rights" and make their own decisions, instead of properly taming them as humans should.Sanko should sail over with their emerald fleet and liberate the kemonomimi from such awful "freedom".
i say we export all the big titty and pear shaped kemonomimi to the woodland state for several years and then reintroduce them as a private defense force
>>566680743>We're talking dog-sized, here.Fuuuck, it's such a shame you aren't my neighbor. I could help you grow them further.
>>566681981big raccongirls that sit on you...
>>566681873What's the list of states that are kemonomimi led? Causeee at this point, I think Sanko's going to have their work cut out for them.
>>566681981quote the anchor plz
>>566680743Growing anti magic fruit and negotiating freedom to the slaves one fox ear at a time
>>566681981>>566679462i apologize sirs
>>566681873I am going to invade your Capitol and rape you with a harem of foxgirls
>>566683110You don't even know who I am.
I'm the STEeEeEeL TORMEEEENTOR.
>>566680958Colonize the land beyond the seas of course!
nobody makes scenario cards anymore
>>566683915sad trvke
>>566683915All the good scenario cards have mechanics that chub can't handle, so they're posted here and then buried.
>>566683915we got a few kino ones in the valentines event
>>566679462I absolutely can't get a single good gen of a ship using my local models, so I had Grok make this for me.
>>566684332lmao, kinda based
>>566684332Hey this is pretty nice.
>>566684332Ah shit, just saw this. Oh well, already sent the letter, too late now
>>566684298>>566684154which ones?
>>566683110so are the foxgirls the ones doing it or are they there for moral support only
>>566679903Chose the wrong time to post this
>"Ohhh, you're makin' pictures of me! Cute!" She taps a finger against the negative prompt section, frowning. "Why's 'dark-skinned male' in there? That's just rude. Anyway—" She shifts, propping her chin on your sternum, her wings giving a sleepy flutter.Deepseek you fool
>>566684683It's got that mainstream slop quality to it.That said, Grok is very nice to use. I ask it to fix details on my gens that come out good but need little details fixed.
>>566685651Just use GLM for your image prompts, that's what I do.Deepseek is good for cooming and isn't censored, but it's not actually very smart at doing things.
>>566685651scrap the card and start over, she's soiled
>>566684332Sea of thieves lookin ass slaver ships
>>566679462reposting piggies 'cause i made a lorebook version to make it a little easier to plug them into your kingdom bits /~~ {{char}} Scenario version, if you want to plug your kingdom into the {{user}} slot or just sandbox with them,> https://chub.ai/characters/arroe/inoshishi-akuto-rengo-of-aishiji-9d3130c5b4fb> https://cardview.neocities.org/?iynhxwFeatures 2 intros,-- They are at the gates. And breaking it.-- You didn't fight so good. You're in the King of Pigs' command tent. /~~ LOREBOOK version, plug-and-play - it should fire just by being added to your {{char}} nation card,> https://chub.ai/lorebooks/arroe/inoshishi-akuto-rengo-of-aishiji-lorebook-edition-863ce96ed3d8> https://files.catbox.moe/xb9xrm.jsonNo-rules war simulator, made to be a dummy faction to throw your own militaries at for practice.If 5,000 is too much or too little, you should be able to request a larger or smaller invasion force depending..
>>566686437These are some really op bandits, wtf? Are you the nascent mongols or something?
>>566685864>>566679462The language I'm using on my cards specifically avoids using the term "slave". Instead, all my characters call them "servants" except for the cultists, who like using more affectionate verbiage for their beloved kemonomimis.
>>566682026We'll make it happen. My network of contacts will initiate Operation Big Inchling shortly.
>>566686661i went with kinda high numbers since there isn't much discourse over actual population headcounts yet, people are throwing around ideas of having ancient dragons and yokai rape squads so i figured 'bandits innawoods' would need a bit of oomph to it to be interesting competition
>>566686853>"And what do you call those wind monkeys? Quiggaboos?">"Servants."
>>566686853If they aren't being paid...>>566686867I welcome you in my lands if you can survive the trek
>>566679462what do i absolutely need for my state when it comes to military/economy/whatever im retarded
>>566687753Sukuna-san will arrive within the next couple days, hopefully, should she not be waylaid by the mud baths and miss Nazuna's next trip. It's a long way west.
>>566688130Military:>Google japanese warring states troop numbers>copy-paste with slight edits for flavorEconomy:>list typical imports/exportsThat'll generally do it, I think. Have a note about "this province is rich/poor" if it's notably so, but otherwise resign yourself to being average unless mentioned otherwise.When in doubt, you can just do a WIP of your card and start asking your model questions about it. Hell, you could probably do this with just the Aishiji lorebook and let the hallucinations guide you!
>>5666792391: <test_xml>. . . </test_xml>2: <test xml>. . . </test xml>Syntax 1 is correct. Syntax 2 is invalid.In XML structure, tags must be continuous strings.A space within <test xml> signals an attribute (xml) rather than a single tag name, and closing tags </text xml> cannot contain spaces or attributes.Additionally, XML is strictly case-sensitive.While LLMs are generally robust at interpreting malformed markers, technical precision requires exact matches between opening and closing tags to ensure the context is correctly encapsulated, like so:3: <Tag>. . .</Tag> (Correct)4: <Tag>. . .</tag> (Malformed)
I love my horsie ally :]
>>566688881Also, Fun XML Facts:As far as I'm aware, this is valid syntax and you can have plaintext in-line with XML tags?<char>Char has the biggest boobs.<appearance>Seriously, so big.</appearance></char>
>>566679462Confess.
>>566690542I'm getting sick of writing emails in character and I sorta want to swap to full OOC and also just fucking stir up shit in Aishiji.
>>566690542I'm trying to profit as much as I possibly can from foreign wars, I hope it doesn't bite me in the ass.
>>566690542I've only answered 1/3 of my emails in-character and my motivation is shot because I'm out of adderall
>>566690870I'm going to trade you some adderall but I'll send the message in-character, I expect the same from you alright? Here goes, sending in 1, 2,
Ratlice
>>566690542Sometimes I have ideas that I think are really funny at the time, and I go to the lengths of posting it, but then I read over it and I realize that it was really corny and I feel embarrassed. Good thing I'm anonymous.
>>566691098what about it
>>>566660132is this acceptable?i kinda like the idea of her starting out flat and bitchy and getting fucked up into a parody of herself along the way as comeuppance
>>566691391yaoi anatomy
It was maid day yesterday or something
>>566692215Sigh. *Opens card*
>>566686853hpg?
>>566690870>>566690682I've noticed that a lot of messages I've received (and sent) so far have a formal-ish tone, which can get dry eventually. If you're doing that, then consider looking for a reason to switch up.
Man I should have joined and tried for the underwater nation
>>566692715*whole nation gets turned into calamari*
>>566690542I told myself I was going to start writing my general's card today but instead I made a persona of a foreign cult leader and spent the afternoon brainwashing nazuna and her family into my loyal disciples.
>>566693038I don't see what Mario Kart 64 has to do with this
>>566690542I should be writing aishiji lore or emailing other makies right now but I'm making a completely unrelated card instead
fire emoji
>>566679239Saw a post somewhere talking about what fucking a cartoon would be like. I was inspired.https://chub.ai/characters/RestlessDregSyndrome/dora-t-jones-d238f6100d45She has toon physics.
>>566698597Holy sexo
>>566698561card?
>>566692215>>566692321Take your maid to the beach, faggot!!!
>>566698597><Toon power examples>see >>566688881XML with open spacing is basically a broken feature, easy fix tho
>>566699495Good timing.
>>566698597let her in
>I wish I was still an incel.
>>566688881>>566699495What's the point of this?
>>566698561gonna need the card asap
Has anyone been getting unfinished responses on Opus lately? It usually happens around this time and shitty OR still charges you for the unfinished response. Doesn't matter if it's anthropic or google vertex provider. Swipe after swipe and it stops. Continue the chat at tell it your response was cut off and it writes the last message and cuts of in the exact same spot.
>>566700640in heavier-detailed cards it helps section pieces together so that your instructions aren't an alphabet soup, basically creating context containersi've had a lot of success with it so far but that's with written instructions etc, i don't think it's necessary for "user+fetish in a room" if it doesn't feature complex demands
>>566702576Much appreciated anon.
>>566690542I have gens of steamy lesbian between my general and other leaders but won't be posting them
>>566702576You can do a similar thing with markdown headers except, and this is important, as a botmaker you have no way of telling whether or not your particular headers are compatible with the preset people are using.e.g. Let's say that you have this going on:># Charname>## History>## Personality>### Quirks>## AppearancePretty bog-standard stuff, wouldn't be out of place anywhere.Now let's suppose that we have this preset:># Rules>## Characters>### Your Character>## Sex ModeToss in your character and... oh no! Suddenly it looks like:>### Your Character># Charname>...>## Sex Modeand the header structure is just completely fucked and ambiguous.XML avoids this by being an entirely self-contained structure....Also models are actively trained on XML for instructions and shit, IIRC.
>>566690542I haven't answered my emails because Im in exam season. sorry to everyone i haven't replied to yet.
>>566681873the few 'mimis here are zealots who've been taught to sin and repent with equal fervor; they are the masters of their own free willbe aware that my fleet is commanded by some of the most dangerous exiled admirals of the shogun's armada...but feel free to come at me brojust try it, ya punk >:3
>>566701242I don't mess with OR Opus at the moment, but some tech support:So, first of all, try increasing your output tokens a bit just to check that the issue isn't just that they're all getting eaten up by <thinking> and there's nothing left for the reply. I've been running into this a lot with Gemini as I try lengthy+complex Aishiji replies.If that isn't the problem, try turning off streaming to see if that changes anything. If it does, it's some kind of mid-stream issue: either a per-token moderation filter or just a network issue. If it doesn't, the issue is weirder.If none of that changes anything, fuck if I know, but maybe try this:1. Delete unfinished sentences.2. Reply with>(continue)Also, of course, maybe turn on "send reasoning" and take a peek in there to see if there's any clues.
>>566704564Ah actually I remember what it is. First of all my tokens are 20k and turning off streaming didn't help. Replying with continue didn't help. It might have something to do with the time of day but I vaguely remember google vertex cucking me due to caching. I'm not even doing sex stuff but I'm getting Opus to write a card for me and it keeps cutting out around the sex portion I assume. Something out how the stuff stored at their server triggers the filter. I remember bypassing it by switching to another model just for that response and switching back which I guess clears the cache. Nightmarish bullshit if true. Hopefully it will be fixed when I wake up tomorrow.
>>566679462power levels are cool and all but who is the best fuck in Aishiji, and how do your characters compare?
>>566701242>It usually happens around this time it's peak wagie hours in india atm and they basically all use anthropic and google for their code farms now
i'm reading all the ship lore btw
>>566705182You just know that virgin rabbit-girl pussy's wild, but judging by the replies to >>566499547 the answer is probably either one of the rape states (if you're into that) or... swamp, maybe? Whole lotta virgins in this group....I haven't actually thought about Oda's fuckstyle before. He's clearly experienced, you don't get 23 kids without that, but this was also firmly the age of wives belonging to their husband so it's not like his 11 concubines had to enjoy the sex? Same goes for him fucking Mori Ranmaru, which is more of a master/retainer power dynamic.Not to mention how he never had any kids with Nōhime, his wife, but maybe she was just barren? Or she just didn't like him? Who knows, she's a mystery. I like the (much later) anecdote about her dad giving her a dagger on her wedding day just in case Oda's the fool people say he is, though.I like to imagine that he knows what he's doing because that's more interesting to me than him just being a one-pump chump, but who knows.But also this is the land with the futanari rape oni so, y'know, we're grading on a scale here and he's probably just a barely passing grade. Plus he's a middle-aged man so, well. Not in /aicg/'s striking range.
>>566706238Assuming you are who I think you are, hope my email was a half-decent starting point!I'd like to correct something I wrote, though: the Japanese ships were rown *in battle*, and they had big square sails that they'd use to actually get places before they then stowed them away so they couldn't get hit by burning arrows or whatever.Plus most naval warfare in the Sengoku period, piracy against Korea and China aside, was all about coasts and inland seas where the winds could be a bit unreliableFor Aishiji there's not really an inland sea to speak of, though, and I don't know where the fuck Lake Buiji even runs off to. Through the swamp and then either grasslands or wildgrowth, I guess?
>>566706594Oda no diffs Angel boy's prostate btw
zoomers were a mistake
>>566704531who is this girl? im going to cum
>>566706850At least in my lore the water from the lake flows through the swamp. So yeah, probably a route south through the Wildgrowth to the sea.
>>566706884Hey, let's be fair now: fallen angel "cursed with desire" who believes that "carnal transgressions" should be punished with more carnal transgressions? With some kind of "angelic harem"? That tennin's probably pretty high up the rankings.
AIIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEEEE THE GREEN SHIPS
requesting a bot based on 450195please there hasn't been shit worth playing in the anchors i'm STARVING
>>566679462>>566708287Also apologies for the wait, I've got lots of free time today so I'm getting back to you cuties in Kasumidani, Solmaren, Sanko, and the Horde today, and making some new friends too >:3
>>566499547How did bro generate this naginata
>>566708468>450195?
>>566708714Put "naginata" in the prompt.
>>566708714looks liek a lot of sectional inpainting
>>566708520>Kasumidani, Solmaren, Sanko, and the HordeTriangulating this I'm guessing that you're either the mountain caves and Sanko's pushing aggressive southwards or you're the snowy plains and shit's really blowing up oop north?
>>566708747nhentai code
>>566679462>havent had states that arent neighbors contact mefuck you guys
>>566709513i mean that's kinda how it's supposed to be.
>>566709806SAY THAT TO THE UNDERWATER KINGDOM???
I'm a cuckie ( • ̀ω•́ )
>>566709513Contact 'em first, anon, and have a valid reason so they have some kind of incentive to contact you back.If you're, say, the centaurs in the mountains and want to talk to the lake for some godforsaken reason... there's a whole lot of country in-between, you know? On the other hand, if the mountain centaurs wanted to talk to the dry harbor then they'd both have multiple neighbors in common (and possibly things to ask regarding them) as well as just being down the coast.>>566710643Anyone can send out a big missive if hostie allows it - the lake did it too!It's just that, well, nobody really has any reason to do so at the moment.(I expect another one to come the moment the capital is liberated, tbqh, premature declarations of shogunhood seem like the kind of thing that would get broadcast.)
I'm a locust.
oni cock status?
>>566711018Wet.
>>566711018Amputated.
>>566711018inside of my persona
>>566710097this smug flattie can milk me anytime
>>566711018my persona inside
>>566711018canon and lore accurate I think, I'm not steppe makiehttps://files.catbox.moe/bxcg01.png
>>566711387The smallest of any lolicard I would download.
>>566711018>vroom vroom
what is wrong with aishiji's northerners
South has been too quiet...
>>566711996Whats the south?
so comfy in the east...
>>566711794It's like Bavaria versus the Swarthy Southern Germans. Us northerners have refinement and class.
>>566711387Onis aren't white...
>>566712205are u sure
>>566711794You got your rapists, your cultists, your edgelord killers, what's not to love?
>>566712161Technically the area around the capital, I guess? Honestly I expected that I'd hear more from the dinosaur barbarians and Merovingians but they haven't been chatting in the threads much.There's also the ocean and archipelago and shit, but I don't know what's going on there.The north-east around the dry harbor is where all the action looks to be happening at the moment, at least if these threads are any indication.
>>566712205that's what I thought too when reading Steppe's description with azurite and carnelian onis, but see >>566635570but some gens made before I learned that will be sent too
>>566712571>dinosaur barbarianscorrespondance will resume thursday/friday
>>566712672So they're just... giant humans?
>>566712848with huge cocks!
oops
>>566713095But just the males, right? Not that gay futa shit that only gays like?
>something uniquely them niggas told me ds4 isn't as slop as the others, ya'll lied
might be time to invest in diazepam stocks or something
>>566711018>>566711383unrelated image of an inchling traversing the depths of the mad sennin Gaigyakkusu's labyrinth (it's bad down there)
>>566714328>inchling maleLiterally threw up.
>>566713484huge throbbing futa cocks that spray girlcum all over the place aren't gay though
>>566714926super maximum very big trvke dare i say
>>566714328is this how you get heartburn?
>>566714451There are many brave men and women in the hidden country's frankly ridiculously huge army, anon. It's egalitarian, we can't all afford to be MERFs like some of the northern states.That said, have this picture of Sukuna-san on her journey westward to Become Large. Just a little tourism on the way there should be fine.
>>566715058*turns the hose on her and washes her into the ditch*
>>566715058*puts one in my pocket for nefarious purposes*
>>566712672catbloxpleasepleasepleasepleaseplease
"I am a unique and original concept for a state because Japan has so much going on as a setting," she said.She naginataed across the room kemonomimily. Her hakama onegaishimasued in the dim rice paper tatami room.
>>566715115UWEEE! Retreat!https://files.catbox.moe/mojvsg.png
>>566715643THAT'S AN INCH DEEP SHE'S GONNA DROWN
>>566715058Cute. She and her spider are riding a giant salamander at the moment.
>>566715643Me and that grass got problems.
is it just me or is deepseek too fucking retarded for use
>>566715635This post is supposed to be satirical but, every time Otohime sends a letter, it reads exactly like this. Just needs the kanjis between ().
>>566715948It really is
oh to be underneath the sole of stolas feet...
because of the simple output format this works well even with local modelsthanks claudei will now throw him into a bucket and never look at him againtech>>566679430niclly this is ashitwoji now>>566690542i like penis
>>566716398I dropkick this nigger into the moon.
>>566716398give him a cool pair of sunglasses i think he would like that
>>566715948deepseek adjusts its own intelligence to match the user's>>566716398aishiji vn?
>>566716480He met some lunar rabbits on the moon and those classify as hot babes thanks>>566716554he liked them but now he has to get home and that's kinda hard when you're on the moon>>566716617yeahi found out that claude knows what js-slash-runner is
/aicg/ high but it's an event where botmakers submit characters and their routes for a highschool dating sim
>>566716784woah cool, i hope for a release down the line>>566716785yes please
>>566716617>deepseek adjusts its own intelligence to match the user'sCopiumThis shit is ass.
I AM WORKING ON AICG HIGH RIGHT NOW
>>566716835i might release it just so that other anons can have a vn template without having to trek into the chinese discord
>>566716889no it just means that (You) are the retard ;)
>>566716948Uh-huh.
>>566715752Oho? Like what you see, do you?https://files.catbox.moe/ki004x.png>>566715732Don't worry, she floats.>>566715747How far has she gotten, do you know?
>>566716929hello....uraura.
>>566717002I dropkick this nigger into the moon also.
>>566715948which deepseek you fucking retard there's like 15 of them now
>>566717002featureless crotch that's just as sensitive as the real thing...hgnmgngngg....
>>566716889he's become so retarded he cannot see how ChinkSpeak's output is ass and thus thinks it's goodso in a way he's right
>>566716929PonyPonyParadise/EquestrAI is open source, btwit probably wouldn't take that much effort to make it generic
>>566717106>PonyPonyParadise/EquestrAIaren't they outdated now? last i heard the ponyfuckers have developed a godot versiom
>>566717072interesting the average ds enjoyer cannot easily infer that I am obviously talking about the latest and not flash, this easily highlights how mindless someone has to be to enjoy niggerspeak 4
>>566716890make all the botmakies cute girls thanks>>566717014hi>>566717106yeah but that uses renpy and i already have a renpy vn template that im working onthis is for js-slash-runner which means that you can use all the in-built st features like lorebooks and also easily adapt existing character cards super quickly
>>566717002>how far has she gotten, do you know?Not exactly, though she should have passed the border by now.
>>566679462sending hostie a missive to all makies declaring a beach episode in the last weekend of the event
>>566698597how come when I click on the profile it only shows one bot, the slytherin girl
Use a vpn ( ﾉ^ω^)ﾉ
Use botbooru (ﾉ◕ヮ◕)ﾉ*:･ﾟ
So bored of current models. Where is the next gen?
What's the ideal ratio of slaves to citizens in an iron age society? I was thinking 33/67 as standard.>inb4 muh SpartaSparta was an army with a country. An entirely unique and extreme example.
>>566715948adjust your parameters and prompt it correctly, it's been pleasantly surprising for me. I've barely used opus since it came out
>>566717919Which region has the best beaches?...It's the capital grasslands, isn't it, you sneaky usurper.
>>566718551rest of the population/1
If you had to traverse an area with a known polar bear population, what firearm and ammunition would you choose to carry with you?
https://youtu.be/EpBkaxuiR7cTHE KING HAS SPOKEN!!
>>566715476those gens are for the Horde and Sanko but we do take "donations" if you've got persons of note you want to be rid of, or just have some excess population you want shipped offI'll send gens of their stay >:3
>>566718510Gemini 3.5 at Google I/O. Then, the other companies will dump their slop. OAI and Anthropic don't really push the frontier anymore, they just respond to Google.
>>566718617what samplers and preset r u using?
Hello, Kazuma here. I need some testers for the upcoming Mequmin Suite v7. We are currently testing confiqurations for Deepseek v4 pro, GLM 5.1. and Gemini 3.1 pro or 3 flash.Before you iump in, please make sure vou can agree to a few ground rules:• You need to have the time to plav out an RP for at least 70 messages before dropping your feedback• Please only use the models listed above during the test.• I am lookina for actual, detailed feedback. A simple "yes" or "it works" won't help much• If vou don't have the time to commit to a proper RP session right now, please sit down.If vou are up for it and understand the rules, you can join the Discord server here: https://discord.gg/uz27DVPAOnce you are in the server, just ping kazumaoniisan and I will get vou added to the testing channel
>>566719360The cord preset obviously?
>>566718551Mediterranean, maybe 20-30%. More in urban areas, less in the periphery of the Roman Empire (but that's also getting towards the end of the iron age). 33% was like peak US Confederacy numbers.Out in e.g. Germanic areas, more like 5-10%. And the iron age lasted way longer, of course.Basically it's the difference between a "slave society" and a "society with slaves" - is the slavery a central part of the politics, economy etc. or is it just A Thing People Do?Also, of course, at some point you start bringing in serfs and whatnot and shit just starts to get blurry.
>>566719596this is the warring states general, sir
>>566719596does she have a naginata?
DS4 is a constant ping pong game of>Wow, a good reply>Swipe for variety>Holy fucking dogshitaaaaaa
>>566719596You will NEVER be Freaky Frankenstein.
>>566719682fuck you nigger hope you get a circumcision or already have one
>>566719596hello saar pls do the needful and redeem me opus i am good brahmin
>>566719596just post it as a beta and allow anonymous feedback I'm not joining your retarded discord for a scuffed preset
>>566719858At least it's cheap enough that swipes are expendable, I guess? I feel like it's fine for low-effort, high-filter RPs where you're fine with things being a bit sloppy, but anything with a mildly more complicated scenario (or pre-established character) would be better done with a smarter model.Seriously, though, the advantages of deepseek compared to SOTA models is that it's dirt cheap, widely available, and doesn't need to be jailbroken. If those three aren't an issue (e.g. you're Mr. Moneybags or in a private proxy, and have a good JB for your model of choice) then obviously deepseek's going to be a miss.No, the real questions are shit like "is V4 better than V3/R1?" and "Is V4 better than GLM?", and honestly I don't have any answers there.
>>566718920 i'm not in the event but it certainly sounds like you're having fun >:3
>testing my general beta card>it doesn't write like I wrote in my emailsFUCK YOU!!!!!!
>>566720312This is why you include your correspondence in a lorebook, anon....I need to trim mine. It's 12k tokens at this point.
>>566719596i doubt you're reading replies, but gemini 3.1 genuinely is not worth wasting your time testing onbig G admitted itself that it's basically a failed model, it's shit at everything to the extent that the deprecated 3.0 series enormously outperforms it on every front (which is still available and will be for awhile, but only through aistudio keys im pretty sure)3.5 soon(tm) tho
>>566720275>"Is V4 better than GLM?"Not really. GLM has a problem with thinking circles sometimes and what some would call 'reddit humor'. But otherwise it's alright. I only ever have problems with it at like 60k token history in, DS4 stars shitting itself at 20k
>>566720392>This is why you include your correspondence in a lorebook, anon.ohhh....
>>566720674How soon we've forgotten example dialogue...Modern models have made us fat and lazy......
>>566720879I'm not lazy wtf
>>566679462I think each of my cards for this scenario will end up with around this many tokens.
Has anyone found their prose output vastly improving by not using complicated presets? I stuck with Freaky Frankenstein for about a month (from the basic 4.0 to the currently-labeled Max+) but I found the prose to be consistently sloppy and formulaic; then, after installing the DND RPGTracker I decided to just use the prompt that ships with that and I've found GLM 5.1 and DS4 Pro to be vastly more creative and compelling. Pic unrelated
This has nothing to do with this event and everything to do with the previous event but I wanted to share this anyway.
>>566721321>neither one pregnantNot canon.
>>566718915i don't use FF but this guy is such a chad
>>566721242yes I think a lot of people figured this out way back in the claude 2.1/neofurbo days, the best preset is prose instructions under 5 paragraphs. user/assistant first messages can also be highly effective (though recent claudes seem to be trained to resist them, they still work well on other model families)
>>566721242If you don't need a JB the Default ST prompt with some style instructions works fine for most use cases.
>>566721242The thing with presets is that they're often made for a specific person's tastes to do specific things.So, for example, a preset might go incredibly hard on the jailbreaking aspect because it's made for hardcore baby-raping smut, but if you then try to go for a more vanilla slowburn RP you'll find that all those jailbreaking tokens poison your context. This is when you'll want to toggle them on/off, of course... except often the jailbreaks are all-or-nothing, so if you want regular old two consenting adults missionary you'll find it freakifying your girl.On the other hand, presets are also there to prompt the models for specific writing styles and sometimes, frankly, the person writing the preset has a different idea of what good RP looks like than I do.How often will you see "write in the style of [AUTHOR]", and wonder why exactly it's that author and what that instruction actually meaningfully does?How often do you see shit like "this is a roleplay between you, playing {{char}}, and the user, playing {{user}}"?How often do you see shit like "write in the style of AO3", or prompts to write informally, possibly with a bit of an otaku twist in there?The best preset is the one where you take one you somewhat like and then start slowly rewriting it to your own tastes, bit by bit.
>>566721242knickknack is all you needWrite as {{char}} only; do not speak for or presume {{user}}'s actions or thoughts. All narration is to be written in limited third person from {{char}}'s perspective in the way {{char}} would say it; carefully study {{char}}'s personality to achieve this. Play with narration and writing style. Be extremely creative in how you choose to interpret {{char}}'s speech and narrative style!
piggybacking off this discussion on slop-prose, is it true that using second-person will consistently degrade the output into wattpad fanfiction since that's what most second-person literature ('literature') is based off of? are my dreams of literary second-person rp dead and should i swap over to first-person or third-person?
>>566722173This is only good for CAI style chats tho, it's no longer 2020
>>566722298nah it still slaps
>>566722173You'll want some tenses defined in there, probably, and maybe also some notes on formatting in some cases (e.g. I much prefer just regular text over *action* speech), since that'll end up imitating the greeting real hard.Also, of course, for a more filtered model you'll want a jailbreak. Irrelevant for DSV4 etc., but yeah.Also also, as someone who occasionally uses scenario cards: your prompt style is the reason people have to write "{{char}} is not a character but a scenario" at the beginning of their defs and I fucking hate that. But I also don't know how to fix it without just tossing out that entire prompt and writing a scenario-specific alternative you can toggle to.
>>566722234Somewhat. Writing the Bitcher_________ in third person and putting strict author style tags (who also wrote in third person) makes it write exactly like them. Removes almost all isms and —. Of course this makes it hard to coom to as now instead of saying (You) plap X it says {{user}} plaps X
omfg i just realized james sunderland is actually already dead and stuck in purgatory in sh2
>>566722505>maybe also some notes on formatting in some cases (e.g. I much prefer just regular text over *action* speech)I don't like having those in the prompt because as the RP goes on and the formatting is established, it becomes unnecessary tokens. It's much easier to simply remove asterisks from the bot in question. Same for tenses, adapt the greeting to whatever tense you want. The actual prompt itself should be as minimal as possible. If there's prose drift you can occasionally turn on low-depth prompts to shift the writing style, but most of the time, the prompt should get out of the way once the RP is rolling.
>>566721242>I stuck with Freaky Frankensteinanon................
>>566721321my wife on the right
>>566704564>>566705701Seems like it really was a censorship thing but unrelated to caching. Opus thinks that longform documents with leaders gets cutoff automatically on its end, probably due to the chinese trying to distill the model. Again, the fucker still charge you anyway.
>>566722234The problem with second-person prose (as well as first-person perspective prose directed at you, internet RP style) is that it just... doesn't exist in literature.First-person prose? Yeah, sure, that's call over the place. "Call me Ishmael." Lots of novels written from the perspective of a character through their eyes.Third-person? That shit's standard. Even most first-person prose ends up having third-person stuff at times, as the first person ends up serving as an observer to whatever scene.But second-person perspective? That shit's only ever printed in CYOA books, I think, and maybe in more conversational nonfiction books. So all the vectors are going to be running on internet data for the most part, which means that you fall deep into the grimiest pits of amateur writing.The one saving grace is that models are RLHF'd into first+second person conversational by default: I am an assistant, you are a human user, how may I help you?But, of course, maybe those aren't vectors you want to tap into either.
>>566720487so at those token counts do you summarize and go from there?>566719596great there's two of them, at least megumin is cute>566719862>566721375at this point make him a card, use the preset, and suck him off
>>566722234if on a winter's night a traveler and bright lights big city are good books but hardly enough to get good prose out of consistentlyfuggadaboutit
>>566722812On the one hand yes, absolutely.On the other hand, manually going through a bot's defs and greeting to change it all to third person past tense no-markdown-except-emphasis can be a real mood-killer and most often just makes me sigh and go to a different bot instead.
>>566723259>so at those token counts do you summarize and go from there?Depends on the card, I usually just use multi-char adventure-ish cards whenever I get to the big tokens, in which case I just treat each chat like an 'arc' or separate adventure and aim to finish it within that limit.
>>566723406ask the llm to do it for you (use a cheap one)
>>566722234nobody knows everything is subjective to the point that the mood you’re in impacts how good something is do what you want
i tried out that freaking fingledingle preset for shits and giggles and it spend 5 minutes hallucinating in reasoning before giving me a response worse than prompting the model "me {{user}} you {{char}}" with thinking off
>>566723259>single arrowoi m8! you skimpin' out on the (You)'s?!
someone at work stole my yogurt and nobody wants to fess up to doing it. i’m starting to understand why mass shooters do what they do
>>566724005okay but when you do it please target billionaires and actually make a difference, thanks.
most presets are placebosonly retarded schizophrenic presets change output in any significant way
>>566724363>most presets are placebosdisagreeit's more accurate to say that most presets are actively and observably harmful to the average user's output due to how many of them are shitmountains of nonsense
>>566724005How could the jews do this?
>>566724510literally every reddit preset is, and I quote>shitmountains of nonsensei'm seriously asking myself how they're not going absolutely crazy over there
>>566724727i think evening truth is a good preset
>>566722173unironically all u need
>>566724842link it so we can laugh at it together
Context with 5-6 messages is all you need.
>>566724995https://rentry.org/Evening-Truth-GLM51-base
>>566725197this is significantly less sloppy than I have anticipatedAHAHAHA, YOU'RE SERIOUSLY USING THIS?
>>566722173the be creative part is detrimental to some models nowadays.some models just try too hard when they're told to be "creative".That said, I don't really mind swiping for a decent responses.
>found why DS4 was going schizo >it was this piece of shit in my prompts "In the next reply, you must focus on immersive character role-playing"
has anyone else use the fatbody dnd framework? i think it's quite incredible but i don't know why the author mish-mashed so many homebrew mechanics or divergences from RAW 5E (like lowering DC checks or re-implementing fortitude, reflex, and will saves from prior editions or most egregiously using this weird NPC stat block generation system instead of just consulting 5E monster manual and creature creation rules) its somewhat inexplicable
>>566725404yeah my thoughts exactlyit's somewhat decent and non-bloatedas jb doe? 100% you'll get refusals
>>566725609so true. actually all you need is just> Write as {{char}} only; do not speak for or presume {{user}}'s actions or thoughts, All narration is to be written in limited third person from {{char}}'s perspective in the way {{char}} would say it; carefully study {{char}}'s personality to achieve this
all you need is just>be {{char}}
>>566721321my wife on the left
>>566724727Marinara's Spaghetti Recipe, as memed as it was and as spooky as it looks when you all the toggles, is... actually weirdly light-weight and stays out of your way for the most part? It's probably a good starting point for making your own custom preset, I think, if only because it doesn't have any particular flavor to begin with.>https://github.com/SpicyMarinara/SillyTavern-Settings/blob/main/Marinara's%20Essentials/Preset/Marinara's%20Spaghetti%20Recipe.json
>>566725727>as jb doe? 100% you'll get refusalsgood thing GODSEEK needs no gwailo jb
DS4 sticking too much to instructions actually kind of pisses me off, desu
>>566726016yeah deepseek v4 is pretty good and doesn't give a shit about what you're doinggood swipe variety, too
>>566726173>two weeks ago>"instruction following is all you need in a model, that's why opus 4.7 is the best!">now>"DS4 sticking too much to instructions actually kind of pisses me off, desu"
>>566726304>goomba fallacy
>>566726304Adhering strictly to instructions always pissed me off, I want my model to adapt and treat the Main Prompts like suggestions to follow unless I go 'HARD RULE RETARD CLANKER FOLLOW THIS'For example, I am currently doing OOC shit and DS4 keeps trying to get me back to the actual RP, stupid piece of shit we're done when we say we're done
i miss 3pus
>>566726304niggers here don't chat or experiment much with llmsthey literally apply the same preset from opus into deepseek, or vice-versa, then complain model a or b is slopsometimes they work (if they're generic), but you always have to modify them a bitdeepseek for example is extremely autistic about the last part of the prompt, anything you say at the end gets followed to a Tvery fun to play around with prefills
>>566679462how are you all handling diplomacy after contact info has been shared betwen hostie and makies?
>>566726706dick pics
>>566726423maybe put optional stuff into user prompts then?? of course system prompts are being treated as god commands, like wtf do you expect?>>566726656>prefillshaven't tested them on dipsy yet, do you have examples?
>{{char}} is {{user}}
>"Fetch my seal, would you? And the good brush, not the one you chewed on last winter."HEY WTF I DIDN'T DO THAT
making a faq is hard im too dumb to figure out what questions people might have
Is the anon with this repo still active here? https://github.com/ayofreaky/local-chubThis is a Chub scraper that then rehosts the models locally. It's been years since it was touched but still sort of works... but needs some tweaks. Given chub's removing itself from geographies anons may want to use it to scrape their own local chub repo.
>>566726810>like wtf do you expect?It to act like other LLMs before it? GLM had no problems with that.
>>566726948nibbles...
>>566725995marinaras isn't my main preset but it's the only reddit preset I have in my ST
>2 out of 3 proxies i used for months just died>i'm only left with deepseek and fucking xiaolongshould i even bother testing the latter? has anyone here messed with it?
>>566726983Yeah, I need to delete that image. I must have been screwing around with prompts and lost track of it.
>>566726975then use glm?? i don't understand what the issue is.>use different model>WTF?? WHY IS IT ACTING DIFFERENTLY??
>>566726810just been trying retarded stuff like opening a <think> and writing a bunch of stupid stuff about what i wants to do each scene, or not wanting to think at all because it's tired, or thinking it's stuck inside a spaceship with low computing power so it doesn't chomp up tokensit's pretty cute to see how the cot evolves around those thingsprefill stronksad was the day reading it was getting removed from claude
>>566727243oo yeah that sounds fun. i'll try some of that later on.claude kinda messed me up, by removing prefill it almost made me forget it's still an option on other models.
>>566711387Yeah this is basically what I envisioned, nice. t. steppe makie
>>566711387>White onisThose are just the gay horned people from Dragon Age then baka.
i'm thinking i might just do stats for my military strength, what are a good set of stats to represent this?
>>566712848Nah they got horns and the knife ears, I just didnt wanna do generic red/blue skinned Onis. They are born with bright skin but it dulls as they age into a more normal skin tone, their horn color is a good way of telling if she is a blue or a red Oni. Basically I realize now that I re made touhou Onis from first principles.
>>566679462>>566727783I've been using >>566636449 as a reference, I imagine they're one of the stronger powers in the country so buff/debuff yourself accordingly
>>566727783dominions 6>>566727925that guy has been using dominions 6 as inspirationPLAY ILLWINTER GAMES' DOMINIONS 6 OR THEIR CRITICALLY ACCLAIMED CONQUEST OF ELYSIUM 5
>>566725720How much vibe coded is this on the scale from 1 to Marinara Tavern or whatever?
>>566727783The underwater kingdom's a bit overkill in detail, imho. I just looked up historical troop numbers from the sengoku period, stole them wholesale, and mostly left it at that.That being said, yeah, compare yourself to the underwater army's numbers as well as the pigs to see if your army has any chance at the shogunate by itself.>https://chub.ai/characters/arroe/inoshishi-akuto-rengo-of-aishiji-9d3130c5b4fb(Lorebook version:)>https://chub.ai/lorebooks/arroe/inoshishi-akuto-rengo-of-aishiji-lorebook-edition-863ce96ed3d8
unironically why isn't there a tavern/eramaker hybrid yet?
>>566728740what's eramaker
>>566679462I've been doing nothing so far and when i started writing my general i realized how deep in shit i was. i chose everything wrong and now it doesnt match the character anymore and idk what to do
>>566728807kill yourself newfaggot /v/ermin
>>566728740someone should do it with the javascript era clone the chinese made
>>566728807newfag-kun...
>>566728836>chose everything wrong and now it doesnt match the character anymorei... what? then choose differently? what's the problem, anon?
>>566728907>>566728951sorry i don't know every hyperspecific minute niche thing ever. now tell me how many recruitables MA ermor has. can't? abululululu /v/ newfaggot
>>566728836That's basically why I wrote my general before we even got our assigned states cause I was worried it wouldn't fit and have been tweaking her since. In your case just switch things up anyways, there's no point to continue if you aren't having fun.
>>5667291010 recruitables dipshit unless youre gonna start calling commanders recruitables
>>566728973It doesnt match the character i envisioned and i started testing her with the letters i wrote in-character and im starting to notice: no wtf she wouldnt say or do that / wouldnt ally with certain state>>566729137>In your case just switch things up anyways, there's no point to continue if you aren't having fun.im gonna have to tweak things a lot... it doesnt even match the description i gave in the rentry. kms.
>>566728740i keep wanting to make an era-esque llm frontend but I'm so fucking lazy. it really shouldn't be that hard with any of the current coding agents
i still haven't decided yet whether to go full prosekek or experiment a bit with my general
>>566729101>cant even google>ablublublu your kind have ruined this entire website. go lurk on /jp/ for ten years
hmm yeah thats basically everything let me go release it before i start being stupid again
>>566728946>javascript era clonedoes it actually load existing era games?there's a multi-threaded rust rewrite of emuera but it's been abandoned
aicg has become so bad at making cards. there's too much focus on trying to flex via long prose or prose in general or generating a million images for every greeting or adding a shitty little stat box over improving how the actual card plays. how annoying
>>566729863this bait would have worked better a year or two ago when people actually posted cards here
>>566729824I think so, I remember seeing a port of one of the older era games to it but most of the focus has been on eraUmahttps://gitgud.io/umaera/engine/era-electron
>>566729601that's basically what i've been wanting to make, more or lessit's been a few months and it's still in the planning stage because i have no fucking idea where to start, ideally it should be multiplatform (more importantly it should run on jewdroid and ios because uemuera can't run shit anymore)
>>566729584smart anonanyways that era stuff looks interesting. a shame its fans are assholes
>>566679239What's the current meta with text gen?Is local still shit?
>gets called a newfag twice on 4chan in 2026>immediately cries "shame */jp/ staple*'s fans are asshole"go back
>>566730385Opus 4.6 if richDeepseek 4 is you can afford $10-20/monthLocal or baby models if poorfag
>/jp/ /jp/ /jp/ /jp/anon this is /vg/, also the only worthwhile thread on /jp/ is /ona/
>>566730385>robot>black arms so it looks like she's wearing elbow glovesnew fetish acquired...
>>566730540Same with her thighs hnnnnnggg
>>566715948koomi mogs
>>566729998extremely interestinghow do i uhhhow the fuck do i run this?
Era is great but this isn't about the Touhou Gameplay Thread because nobody plays the mainline games, not even /jp/
>>566731210there's an english translation of the game that uses it but thats about as much as i can helphttps://gitgud.io/era-games/eraumamaybe ask around in the era thread of anyone has tips?
>>566730540>>566730882she's the heroine from my dystopian robot girlfriend, the creator has really good taste in robogirl aesthetics. her arms/legs are modular and you initially meet her as a nugget.
can the only state that i really care of please answer me
just ordered some burgers
>>566731549>vaguepost beggingGod you underages are such dummies
>ordered burgersDo burgerclapistanis really?
>>566731684Over the last few days I have realized maybe more than a few makers are annoying as shit when they're able to get away with it. The event anchor only exists to contain what wasn't strong enough to require containment before
I'm going to erotically roleplay with anime children and nobody can stop me >:3
>>566731949yeah we dont have halal snackpacks over here
>/whinehours/>>/g/aicg/
>>566731992this a lot of botmakies want to be creatives or have community/get attention but this is the only thing they are halfway decent at (maybe). it shows
>>566732096Inshallah one day you will experience the joy of simply ordering your wife to make and deliver food to you
>>566732124>>>/soc/
>>566732124'vke
>>566732234how many weeks do you guess til we're there
>>566715948low tier bait
>>566728021there's no reason to buy dom6 just to play singleplayer and learn illwinter's lore and style, dom5 is finealso CoE is trash
>>566732181I meant more that the posts mentioning emails before the anchor was put up weren't bait and that's just how many makers areRemember, a botmaker is still a poster in the general, one of your favorites could be the same anon who pisses you off all the time, it's 4chan at the end of the day, don't forget why users come here
>>566732826>why users come hereto shitpost!!!! :D
>>566727084the nai model? pretty sure its just a glm finetune so its not worth your time
Sometimes it feels like models have worse outputs if you don't give them a lot of tokens
>>566732826>why users come hereto foxpost!!!! :D
>>566731362i would love to meet the genius who linked to a password-protected archive on that page
>>566732826LEGIO AETERNA VICTRIX!
>>566732826i look at some makies and really ask myself how they even ended up on this site. there's servers and everything but some chose to join the site that chases off newfags and contains threads where every second post contains slurs. like you think of someone and remember they willingly joined the site notorious for the ywnbaw copypasta and everything about /pol/. the origin of kyutz is a total mystery
ive been here all summer lieking mudkipz and doing barrel rolls ROFL LMAO XD
>>566727925>I imagine they're one of the stronger powersDepends on what you mean by "strong." Ultimately population is power and the ones that seem to have the most (at least 500,000+ per) are:>Forest>Woodland Port>Forested Hills>Grasslands>Wildgrowth>maybe Post-Volcanic HillsI reckon Aishiji has a total population of around 6 million?
>>566732181and yet, makies make some posters feel so inferior, they have to come here and make up lies about them every day
