# Store link:https://store.steampowered.com/app/2378900/The_Coffin_of_Andy_and_Leyley/# Guides (Major spoilers; avoid until having played through the game once):>Routes & Subrouteshttps://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3545926625>Achievementshttps://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3050231198>Stars & Visionshttps://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3459534675>Complete Episode 2 Walkthroughhttps://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3052417644>Episode 3 Endings Guidehttps://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=3148380245># News:>Episode 3A: Decay has been released!https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/2378900?emclan=103582791473416093&emgid=523086940514289223>[APRIL 2026] Decay and Burial being developed simultaneously, whichever episode gets completed first is the next major update. It's currently looking like it'll be Burial.https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/2378900?emclan=103582791473416093&emgid=537755982024934503# Nemlei's previous games:https://mega.nz/file/FSFXURYI#FhEp5w4qMv4w0A0mMfQ4YqLD5TJuve014_-eTNdIbSIPrevious thread: >>566450125
First for Sprite Supremacy!
>>566691216Indeed! My wife Noelle is so pretty!
https://x.com/i/status/2053953790773014761
>>566690525Lord Unknown also wants Ashley and is using Andrew to get to her.
>>566692000why is ashley dressed like a whore
>>566692000Man that butt is nasty.
>>566692000OH MY GYAATTT
>>566692597Ashley is already dressed like a whore. She wears shorts during the winter and cuffs said shorts. She shows a lot more than office cleavage and she's exposed her back as well. Not to mention the choker.
>>566691157
>>566693391>rape julia sisterJulian will finally get his revenge!
>>566693391>retarded demon???bros...
Is BAND meant to be an actual reflection of how bland Julia is, or is that just what Andrew sees on her wall because he dislikes her?
>>566693391>shotafag today soon
>>566693391>renee nemlei love
>>566693976The BAND poster still appears from Julia's perspective
Nemlei you fucking WHORE. JULIA'S ROOM IN EPISODE 3 IS DIFFERENT FROM EPISODE 2. DON'T THINK WE CAN'T TELL THE DIFFERENCE YOU HACK. THE CLOSET HAS BEEN MOVED, THERE'S A FUCKING NIGHTSTAND NOW AND THE FUCKING PHONE IS IN A COMPLETELY DIFFERENT PLACE. You need to pull the game from Steam NOW and fix this problem, you fucking cunt! You ruined the fucking game!
>>566694543LOOK AT THE ROOMS OVERLAYED AGAINST EACH OTHER. THE FUCKING BED HAS BEEN MOVED AS WELL. THE CLOSET ISN'T EVEN UP AGAINST THE WALL ANYMORE, LOOK, IT'S FURTHER DOWN.
>>566694543>>566694727Clear evidence that Andrew is in fact an unreliable narrator for the flashbacks
>>566695046Ah, so it's Nemleian. I see, my apologies.
>>566694543>>566694727unplayable, embarrassing, where's my refund?
>>566693391Ashley game. Ashley general. Ashley board. Ashley website. Ashley internet. Ashley state. Ashley country. Ashley continent. Ashley world. Ashley Galaxy. Ashley universe. Ashley atoms. Ashley fabric of reality. Ashley Big Bang. Ashley Ashley
>>566696198in the Multiverse of Ashley
>>566696198Welcome to the mind of Andrew Graves.
I want ??? to be the godfather of Andrew and Ashley's children
Aenon was an cute
>>566693391>projecting thinking problemslol
>>566694543>>566694727Julia moved to a different dorm room.
>>566697575Why?
How would the story change if Ashley wore skirts
>>566698487Summer? Also the university remodeled the rooms slightly to make better use of space.
>>566699090Hussy lies
Genuinely me when Andrew beat Ashley
>>566691534Nomorashi...
>>566691548>incest causes genetic problems thoughThe problem with this statement is it's a lie by gross oversimplification. One generation of inbreeding does not actually increase the risk of novel genetic defects from manifesting, in order for inbreeding to play a factor in a genetic defect the alleles must be present in both parties. It does increase the odds of genetic defects manifesting on a macro scale, because math, but on an individual level even playing russian roulette with the baby butter bazooka you're overwhelmingly likely to have a healthy baby. As in, 99+% likely.
>>566705173The main problem is that incest doesn't "cause" genetic problems; it merely makes it likelier for existing recessive problems to be expressed. It's not like fucking your sister will suddenly mutate your DNA lol.
>>566705325Correct, however the laymen treat it like it's a magic bullet where during the sequencing your kid-to-be's DNA realizes "holy shit this bitch fucked her brother" and kills itself, which is fundamentally incorrect. Inbreeding is an issue on a large, really an *industrial* scale, but on an individual level the risk is borderline nonexistent.
>>566693391Damn, that's one clean "andrew ashley" in the middle.
>>566693391>decay rapeEven the word cloud knows!
>>566693976It's a running gag in the game. I can't be bothered to go and find right now but the TV also says "BRAND" where the brand of the TV is supposed to be written.
>>566694543>>566695147Literally unplayable. I mean as a true fan you shouldn't ever play the game anyway but even if you tried you couldn't.
>>566705325In normalfags/moralfags' defense, it can make mutations that would've otherwise been safely reduced via outbreeding more prominent. Of course mutation doesn't automatically mean bad, but a deleterious gene that appeared as the result of a mutation can be expressed as a dominant over time because of too many unlucky generations of inbreeding (emphasis on "unlucky", because even generations upon generations of inbreeding might not cause any problems for the offpsring. See picrel).So the best way to do it is for siblings to breed but ideally not successively like more than 3, just to be safe, and sprinkle a completely hussie and floozie every once in a while or cousins (substitute siblings), and with modern technology and planning etc. it's basically completely and yes COMPLETELY safe nowadays. There really remains not many arguments for incest except maybe that it could be a permanent part of culture and cause people to inbreed too much but you can regulate by the government quite easily. Still absolutely no grounds to illegalize sibling sex btw.
>>566707971>it can make mutations that would've otherwise been safely reduced via outbreeding more prominentYou cannot select for/against recessive traits through outbreeding until they've already spread to a significant portion of the population, by which point it's already too late. Inbreeding lets you filter out bad traits immediately.
Nemlei will give us busts like these when she eventually adds the Midsummer art scene in game. She'll have a flower crown and everything. Trust the plan.
>>566708492Scholar.
>>566705325>>566705440>>566708415There is so much work we have to do if we are to undo normies' brainwashing.
>>566707971A better argument is that for every real sibling couple there will be ten cases of sexual abuse the law legitimizes. Letting parents get together with their children would be more like a hundred thousand to one ratio in favor of groomers.
>>566708624Banning consensual incest because incestual rape exists is like banning dating because rape exists
>>566708589Sex. With sisters.
>>566708702It's not the same because a person can't easily get away from their family members, especially if they're a minor. There's also a preexisting relationship for an abuser to leverage, both to get sex from the victim and to stop them from reporting the abuse. Legalizing it and making it socially acceptable would make it a lot easier to get away with doing stuff like that, all to enable something the vast majority of people don't want to do anyway, and the few who do can already easily get away with. It's just not worth it.
>>566708415That's a good point. The mutation is deleterious by itself and inbreeding or outbreeding doesn't factor much into it, other than the fact that only inbreeding provides a way out through purifying selection under a selective environment. I think it eventually all comes down to a governmental thing, where it should be controlled top down, like illegalizing more than a certain amount of sibling marriages maybe, or a general genetic examination being required for consanguine marriage in general. You might say it's unnecessary not only because noone in the modern age would marry endogamously so successively to the point that it will be dangerous anyway, and people can just dismiss official marriages, but it sets the tone in culture and the attitude of the authorities. Anyways, I'm just theorizing because it's fun. I'm sorry if I talk too much or go out of context at times, I think about shit like this all day and have only /calg/ to talk about it.
>>566709135Do you think someone raping his daughter gives a shit whether incest is legal? Legalising it won't cause abuse.
>>566709135I don't feel like that whole "le power imbalance" thing works for nor represents incest in this case at all. Most cases of grooming will go unnoticed regardless, and a groomer would not think "oh boy, finally having consensual sex with my child is legal!". Molesters will molest.
>>566709384Power imbalance usually isn't a thing for close-in-age siblings anyway.
>>566709475>imbalance usually isn't a thing for close-in-age siblings anyway....what?
>>566709702Siblings are across all cultures viewed as the platonic ideal of egalitarianism.
>>566709943Anon what the fuck are you talking about? My imouto is 5 years my junior and while it's not handmaid's tale breeding slavery, she's inarguably subordinate to me in the relationship. I don't abuse this fact, of course, but that's a patently insane statement to make.
>>566710061>it's not [] breeding slaveryfix that
>>566710061Half a decade isn't what I had in mind when I said "close-in-age"; I was thinking of a 2 year age gap at most.
>>566709702As someone with an imouto 2 years my junior, there is a power imbalance but its pretty small. Pretty much the same as any other male-female relationship.
>>566710132It's not slavery when you get what you want.>>566710149Completely arbitrary and still beside the point. I don't know why you're fixated on power dynamics, but men generally wield power over women outside of things like mothers and grandmothers having authority over their children. It shouldn't be abused, I'm required to say, but that doesn't change its reality.
>>566710061A good wife is subordinate to her man. Power.imbalance, as you define it, is already a requirement for a healthy male-female relationship regardless of who you are with. I'm not telling you to go fuck your sister but facts are facts.
>>566710337>Completely arbitrary and still beside the pointIt's not besides the point because the original point was that siblings are inherently more egalitarian than outbreds.>you're fixated on power dynamicsI wasn't the one who first brought it up; someone else did and I said it's not really a thing for similarly-aged siblings.>men generally wield power over womenI agree, but I also believe that brothers are already used to trusting their sisters.
>>566710497>It's not besides the point because the original point was that siblings are inherently more egalitarian than outbreds.In what way? What even is egalitarian? Your premise is flawed, because in a sibling relationship the elder wields more power except in the case where the elder is a complete fuckup. In the case of a minimal age gap, which must apparently be less than five years, the brother is generally the one who runs shit because... well... women.>and I said it's not really a thing for similarly-aged siblings.It's a thing for everyone ever, siblings or not. Very rarely is there a purely mutual relationship, someone is always the leader and someone the follower. It's not a bad thing, it simply is.>but I also believe that brothers are already used to trusting their sisters.Entirely unrelated to the point. People treat power like it only exists in a massa-slave relationship and not something more nebulous and less direct.
>>566710337I was the one who mentioned power dynamics, you're speaking to a different anon.
>>566710673I simp for my sister. Explain that, liberals.
>>566710823Sisters are inherently simpable. The problem is that "power dynamics" are a gay and retarded way of framing things.
>>566710895It's literally just an excuse to delegitimize incest because otherwise there is no other argument logically anymore.
>>566710942I mean you might as well delegitimize all sex because women are retarded and therefore incapable of informed consent.
>>566710989>men are all rapists because women are too retarded to consentIs this reverse feminism?
>>566711125Sisters are really cute women that are retarded in really cute ways, but all women are a little retarded at least.
>>566711173You need a bit of retardation.
sisters are ducks
>>566699027ashley is already sexy wearing shorts, only hags like renee looks ""lusty"" with a skirt
Skirtshley would be a cutie, but I digress.
>>566712302Do current year high schoolers really?
Super Saiyasister
>>566694221>Renee treats kids like shit>Nem's treated kids like shit in the last chapterIt all makes sense now! Renee is Nem's self insert.
Ashley takes it up the ass
Does anyone know why I named this file "romanian ashley.jpg"
>>566693585Julian Nooooo it's a trap.You're just giving her what she wants.[Nagare Ippon] Ane buri
>>566708702funny that
Have a 'nee
>>566694543>Anon, I redecorated my room! Do you like it?
>>566693976I think it's just a visual gag. Honestly this fandom reads into stuff way too much. I don't know where it comes from.
>>566717778>Honestly this fandom reads into stuff way too muchNemlei created a work of ART with more than a few latherings of Silent Hill-esque symbolism. I WILL overanalyze the pubes in the sink in Episode 2.
This is genuinely what Ashley thinks happened
>>566718935It was real in her mind!
6,000,000 in the flooziecaust? 271k tops.
>All rapes are rape>But some rapes are more rape than others
>>566720148It is remarkable how /calg/ transitioned from "ASHLEY DIDN'T RAPE ANDREW" to "ANDREW DIDN'T RAPE ASHLEY"
>>566718935I want to just follow orders with Julia!
>>566720216Neither raped each other. Ashley coerced him into drunk sex with her, Andrew used her transactional reasoning to get sex out of her. Rape itaelf implies one forcing themselves onto the other. If either truly didn't want it (HARD Doubt, especially Andrew) it wouldn't have happened.
>>566720553>coerced him into sexIf only there were a word for that
>>566720216I am both of those posters. The difference is that saying Ashley didn't rape Andrew was obviously a joke. Whereas the people saying Andrew didn't rape Ashley are serious>>566720553>Rape itaelf implies one forcing themselvesDo you really think the only way to force something is physically?
>>566720727Yeah. And if he really didn't want it, he would have just punched her off of him.
>>566720928>onus is on the victimJust because you announce an absurd definition of rape, doesn't mean it's true
>>566720928Just because you're brown doesn't mean you have to solve all your problems by punching people.
we are NOT having rape debates again
>>566721080>race cardI honestly hate you so much, dude. I'm the anon who argues it's rape btw. But calling the other party brown is always done as a rhetorical crutch when you don't have an actual argument. It's the same as "guy who calls every post bait but keeps replying, thus demonstrating that he doesn't actually think it's bait"I'm arguing it's rape because I am a logical and intelligent person, not because I'm desperately trying to convince a video game general that I really am white>>566721087I picked a bad time to start it, since I have to go anyway. So fine, let's put it on ice for 2 hours or so
There's no rape in the game
>>566720928>if he really didn't want it, he would have just punched her off of himYeah I'm certain Andrew didn't feel the least bit guilty about having done exactly that an hour ago.
Julia raped Andrew.
>>566721340>But calling the other party brown isThe story of Lucretia has etched itself into everything western because it is the foundational rape narrative of western civilisation. Lucretia's rape has been considered rape for millennia, despite the fact it involved zero kicking and screaming from her; the only reason this interpretation of rape would be foreign to you is if you yourself are foreign to the west. In our fucking blood we understand what the fuck rape is.
Noir siblings
Lord unknown mind raped Andrew
>>566721532>The story of Lucretia has etched itself into everything westernAsk 10000 Westerners who Lucretia is and I'd bet my life less than 5 could answer
>>566721662They'd go 'The Borgia girl who was fucking her brother?'.
You know who's just a perfect little miracle of the universe?Ashley
>>566721714Is that real?
>>566721662Ask 10,000 Westerners if an abuse victim can meaningfully consent when their abuser asks for sex shortly after attempting to murder her multiple times and threatening to beat her up again, and I'd bet my life less than 5 could say yes.
>>566721867Like I said, I'm on the same side as you. But pretending that all Westerners are innately intimately familiar with Roman foundational myths and that anyone who is unfamiliar (or disagrees) with them is actually brown is the most 18 year old /pol/shitter thing. I'm not arguing that it's rape because I think it makes me white. I'm arguing it because I think it makes me right (god I am so fucking clever).
>>566722102It just pisses me off when retards here insist that this reading of rape is a feminist/longhouse/whatever invention that never existed until recently. It's THEIR reading that is the invasive weed.
>>566722385Then it seems that attempts to ragebait you are having the desired effect.
>>566722385No, that's fair. I got pissed off at the guy who acted like there being any doubt at all about the rape constituted a full rebuttal. >>566722491>I was merely pretending to be retardedSure, Jan
How common is it for women to instantly leave their pads in the toilet bin when they visiting their ex for 5 minutes? Wouldn't you just plan to change them at home, or something like that? I don't know, because I never use pads.
>>566723107I asked something similar a while ago, and IIRC it's actually normal. I thought Julia had planned it on purpose, but alleged women/women daters told me that when a woman is on her period, the blood isn't one constant flow but instead starts and stops. So it's perfectly reasonable that Julia would have needed to swap out her pad at that moment.I do kinda think it was a deliberate act of sabotage, but I'm just relaying what I was told
>>566723234Julia always seemed like a passive aggressive person who just acts all shy and harmless. But if she isn't pretending, then wouldn't she be too shy to leave the bloody pad there? But maybe for women it's like throwing away a tissue. I had gfs too, but I never really thought about what they do with pads when their outside. I guess it doesn't matter and there needed to be something for Ashley to start a fight.
>>566724187I definitely agree that if it's deliberate, it adds another dimension to Julia's character. Someone needs to get a foid in here to make it clear whether Julia could have dumped her pad intentionally or not
>>566724757>foidthere is literally a coffin thread on r9k you can go back there and ask them
>>566725493Who is the retarded in the /r9k/ Coffin thread who said we frequently get pruned? That hasn't happened since the proto-/calg/ era, ie we've been going strong for more than 3 years.
>>566725493>r9kNo thanks, I'd rather remain ignorant
>women>on r9klol, lmao
The lipstick smear was actually Julia’s period pussy mist
>>566725867basedi love chicken wings and red wings
>>566725707it'll be a vfermin
>>566725867>pussy mistY-you are joking, right? Women don't have pussy mist, do they?
>>566725819apparently cc and some other forum imploded from retarded drama and a bunch of them migrated there and started trying to convert the locals into femboys for their yaoi fantasies, fujo stronk...
>>566726169based fujos
>>566696198>there are more Ashleys in the universe that there are atoms-Neil "dat ass" Tyson
>>566726169I lived long enough to see /r9k/ get gentrified by femcels. Bros, it's looking up...
>>566725493There are no normal women there. It's already clear that they would put pads there by just for fun and also rape Andrew.
>>566727026>and also rape Andrewbased
One of my friends and his girlfriend honestly look exactly like Douglas and Renee apart from hair colour. They got the same hairstyles and all
Have you made memes with your sister?
Threadly reminder bratty sisters are for hard ANAL!
Can souls fuck?
>>566733901They can remember desire
