May Edition>NewsNew community MvM tour: https://www.teamfortress.com/post.php?id=270245>Official SitesBlog: https://teamfortress.comWiki: https://wiki.tf>Frag With /tf2g/When: Friday & Saturday Afternoon. Check for posts in the thread or be the one to announce.tf2g's Official Server: 78.46.128.115:27015 (EU)Ready Up: https://tf2gfragready.b4k.dev/>Other 4chan ServersWeeabootique: 198.245.61.57 (NA)Castaway: Castaway.tf (NA/EU/AUS/Asia)Konata: konata.tf (EU)>ResourcesFAQ: https://pastebin.com/Svy4uc7tMods: https://pastebin.com/8Q6bzADkPreview Loadouts & Skins: https://loadout.tf | https://weapons.tf | https://p337.info/tfviewHUDs: https://gamebanana.com/mods/cats/1644 | https://tf2huds.dev/Scripting: https://pastebin.com/1VmngMfJ | https://pastebin.com/R7V4cN8STrading: https://backpack.tf | https://trade.tf | https://stntrading.eu/ | https://tf2trade.tf/Stats: https://pastebin.com/0yaDyWb4Sprays: https://rafradek.github.io/Mishcatt/Community Server Browsers: https://serverbrowser.tf/ | https://thegabenzone.github.io/truequickplay/#/serversCreators Leaks: https://archive.is/GeYbEtf2g's Guide to Heavy: https://pastebin.com/Y7ZWgt96>Competitive News & Events: https://teamfortress.tv Lobbies & Mixes: https://tf2center.com | https://pastebin.com/vNTDF4eLLeagues: https://pastebin.com/UJ9sDAdq>Previous Thread>>566328365
>>566723531entire team is boobies!
>>566723531based OP
inb4 the thread schizo posts xis steam group
>>566723531woah sister the pokemon little girl is so you, very cool image! you forgot your team fortess steam group though!!https://steamcommunity.com/groups/TransFurtress2
>>566724425maybe mann co. will take the hint one of these days if we send in enough letters
>>566723885>>566725058Based and true!!
I just downloaded the game again after a long, long time. I think the last time I played was around 2013-2015.I really wanted to have some fun with surfing and jump maps, but I can't find the jump map I have a lot of nostalgia for.I can barely remember what it was like, but I think it was>Inside a facility>Different courses based on difficulty, not sure if the difficulty was by number or by letter>I think the different difficulty courses were colour coded as well, not sure on this oneAny luck? I've been searching for like an hour and haven't found it yet...
>>566725740I think you would walk/jump to each course as well. You didn't use a door to teleport or anything like that I think.
>>566725740you do realize that describes a rather significant amount of jump maps right
Did Zesty win yet?
>>566726008the match hasn't started yet, he's still in the casual queue
>>566725879I thought so. It really sucks because I'm nostalgiafagging hard for the map.It reminds me of good old days.
>it's another fucking game where blu just sits on sniper not pushing, not doing anything, and not going to win>switch to scorch shot pyro out of spite to punish these loathsome cunts
>>566726139what was the color palette or lighting? go on paint and show us the colors
>>566727486I really wish I could, but it's been over 10 years. I can't remember more than "it had different colours". Thanks for trying to help, I'll keep looking on google and youtube to see if I can find any hints.
>>566726008he won a rent-free living space
>>566728524Oh, it was jump_4starters I think, how did I miss that...
>someone complains about Engineer class in-game chat>"short circuit is fair and balanced :^)">look at scoreboard>it's a gunboats SoldierAlways.
scoreboard doesn't display that infofictional scenario
Are there any western/cow themed scout cosmetics? I want to try and make a cow boy scoutUsing spooky sleeves for a "cow print" but it doesn't really work.
do you think they'll ever fix golden wrench/pan kill statues looking like they're made of rubber and not gold
Found the gunboats Soldier
>>566730253Why is his head so big?
>>566730681You should turn off that cringe mod first.
>>566730253Okay, and...? Why is it supposed to be surprising if a Soldier or Demo are the people complaining about the Short Circuit...? Should it be the Heavy instead?
>>566731228fetal alcohol syndrome
I wanna start playing battle engie since it seems like the only way to have fun with this game anymore. What are the macros I need?
>>566731372But she's so cute
>>566731848battle engi is mediocremacros for building are gay and dane is a turbofaggot for proliferating themtrue fun can be had by being an aggressive engineer building your sentry in stupid locations, being something more like ninjaneer
>>566730681>every body cosmetic is stretched beyond its intended resolution and look horribleWhy?
>>566732679>battle engie is mediocreAll subclasses are bad compared to stock. Especially after Valve ruined the game and nerfed everything on the way out.Luckily I don't have a burning desire to inject HRT so I don't play competitive, I just want to have fun on Payload and KotH.
>>566732694you can only ask so much from a mod desu
>>566731973I can see how you would agree, if you are a furry.
https://youtu.be/VNNexUWvHmw?t=7820Other than being American, why did Zesty do this? What's the point of eating such horrible goyslop?
>>566725058She's the best, I love her work she does for tf2g
>>566731973"Cute", is it?
3 NIGASON CART
>>566723531this image doesn't have anything to do with tf2. perfect op 10/10
>>566731434It means they're already playing the easiest classes in the game and should shut the fuck up.
>>566731973the seggswith bnuy lucy
Paypigging for unusualifiers before the update worth or stupid?
Soldier and Demo are 2 of the hardest classes to play optimally, especially compared to Engineer who has a very unchallenging meta and gameplay loop (build the aimbot in the correct spot and perform extremely simple multitasking). Soldier and Demo on the other hand requires correctly calculating projectiles in a 3D space against multiple moving targets. The difference in skill are the complete polar opposites.
>>566746034While you're not exactly incorrect, the sheer amount of damage they do with minimal effort and high health pools, as well as being favorites for healing, make your argumentation invalid. Compare either of them to the incredibly high skill ceiling sniper who has low health, no explosive damage, no means of escape (soldiers and demos can just fly away from a bad confrontation), and not only do not get healed regularly but can't even be overhealed when using their single counter to one of the most broken classes in the game, as well as needing to keep track of enemy flankers, countdown how long it takes for them to move from spawn to their vantage point, moving to a tactical vantage point that won't waste team resources, as well as being unable to contribute to the cart/point without compromising their niche role, and you begin to realize that soldiers and demos really don't have much to complain about; in fact, they can sidegrade to the Pain Train to count as two players, while the sniper can only get a shitty bleeding weapon (which, if they're using THAT, means they're already dead themselves).
Skill of Demoman>Understand the weight, trajectory, and inertia of a projectile in a 3D space against a moving target. Intelligence required: rocket scientistSkill of Sniper>Click moving people's heads, and the game will instantly create a hitscan register. Intelligence required: flash game player
>>566748181Clicking most moving people's heads is almost impossible though.
>>566748181Don't even PRETEND like you aren't holding M2 while firing stickies at a large mob you NERD
Sniper:>position himself to have view on a very narrow angle and waits>no one ever bothers him while doing his task, he doesn't need to budge ever>anything that comes close can easily chopped to pieces because jarate-bush combo is reliable>targets eventually line up to peek at his sightline and he clicks their headsDemoman:>has to actively shutdown multiple sentries while covering his Medic against Spy and Scout>memorizes door ways to trap and shift strategy to become unexpected>plays with one hand behind his back while luring enemy to the trapped gateways>have to actually aim with SBL and GL actively by minding the arc and lead the shot to path of target
Sniper:>gets one headshot>kicked from server>blacklisted>pm'd death threatsDemoman:>clears the entire enemy team with stickies after getting a Kritz up his ass>spawncamps with stickies>entire enemy team disconnects>is hailed as a hero, healsluts beg to fluff him in the next matchThe sheer caucasity of demomains to act like they're oppressed and h-IQ is insane to me...
Meanwhile all the heavy mains out there are just trying to survive. What are they without the medic's beam up their asses all the time? Fresh meat. Blam! Boom! Another one added to the statistic.
Engineer:>has to strategically decide when and where to place his sentry to maximize its area denial effect>has to make similar strategic decisions about where to place his dispenser and teleporter to maximize their benefits to his team>has to acquire and manage metal, a limited resource that's a lot harder to come by than ammo for most guns>has to decide when to upgrade his buildings or leave them underleveled, upgrading at the wrong time can be the difference between life and death>has to look out for spies without having an easy spychecking weapon, must manually spycheck teammates, has to get lucky with finding cloaked spies>has to stop his buildings from getting spammed by explosive classesbut please, do go on about how any other class is "high-IQ"
The reality of Demo haters>doesn't use stickies>dramatically misses all 4 grenades and dies to a pyro>has a 3:15 kill-death ratio>proceeds to watch uncle dane videos to cope with the delusion that engineer takes skillKEKAROO
>>566755173>shoots 3 rockets at the base of your sentry>kills you and it
>meunga>youbunga
>>566756817Why are his boobs so big?
>classes that takes the most skillthe ones I'm playing right now>classes that takes the least skillthe ones my enemies are playing right now
>be soldier>shoot feet>reach your pocket to look at the picture of Zhanna's feet>capture the point>win the roundez
>>566751258Use the Tomislav and Banana and just go on adventures. The fact the Heavy has ultra high DPS, health, and rechargeable health is actually really really strong, and he can win most ambush and 1v1 fights. All you have to do is not 1v6 people, it's not that hard.
They should remove the tomislav because it removes Pyro's intended role of being the ambush class. Valve screwed over the Pyro community by doing this.
>>566731848The f1-4 binds and having a respawn bind both make your job very easy. I can't play without the f1-4 building binds, it makes things so much easier and faster too. You can also destroy buildings while dead if you see your tele camped. A respawn bind helps in rooms that have cabinets that are far away if you need to set up faster during setup timeTo me battle engie is only a slightly modified version of regular engie, there's never really a reason not to just plop down a teleporter and dispenser for your team before you go run off with a minisentry/jag/eureka for ninja. And you don't even have to go suicide into the enemy team to have fun as engineer. In my opinion the best way to defend your nest is to keep people away from it to begin with, which means patrolling the area with your shotgun and shooting anyone who gets into position to spam your gun down. Still allows you to play proactively and not be a turtle but doesn't require you to run a gunslinger
>>566725058trukey
>>566760210
>>566761742“[Marc Scaparro] The Pyro is designed to be the best short-range combat class, aimed at encouraging players to adopt an ambush style of play...”
>>566726008>>566730681>>566731973baby making sex with tikal and lucy
>>566762109"[Gabe Newell] My favorite class is the spy..."
>>566724425>>566725058called it lmao
>>566725058This group is pretty indicative of this general, why isn't it in the OP?
maul
(formerly darth)
>>566769264>>566769328Maul's Ball and Hall
>>566769823... Darth's Barr and Harr?
>>566770079No, Darth's Barth and Hearth
>>566770514
>>566770587Fine.
>>566770641Thank you
>>566725058she rocks her art is very good, she should take comissions and at least make some keys off being here all day
>being here all dayoh the irony
>>566771734dont talk so bad about yourself
>>566771734Most of the people who use this place now are mostly here all day.
nope only you bud, stop projecting
Odyssey feels like playing payload on hardmode most of the time
Steam ded?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kO1Yq7n9zLU
>>566774202It's chewsday innit
>>566750247If you don't like Sniper, buff Spy.
>>566730681this is shit, when are we gonna stop pretending that this is good
>>566771689*he
>>566777890When /tf2g/ stops being a degenerate general.
>>566779541You would have to leave for that to happen
>>566779541you mean when the schizo leaves? sadly that's not gonna happen, it's 3rd worlder from colombia, they have nothing else in xer life
>>566779820You're replying to him
>>566779820Shup up you stupid gringo.
>>566779863I know.>>566779945why do you have a twitter account where you post gen alpha roblox slop?
>>566730685Nothing in this game actually looks like it's gold, I get that australium is meant to look exaggerated but it all just looks like shiny rubber when I'm used to it. It's why I prefer war paints over aussies
>>566780548The Top Shelf skins do a better job of looking like they have gold than the Australiums do. They set the Australiums to too yellow of a color.
>>566780959Yeah, I used to have a top shelf revolver in FN but all of the other top shelf skins are too expensive to even see in a game
>>566782237I have no idea, I vacuum and clean toilets for minimum wage my man
>>566782347Fug.
>>566772946thats exactly what you did though...
Eric status?
>habib called someone a faggot so on top of not being able to leave the house he's banned from rgl for a month and a halfis it froyover
>>566782237Bribe him with a strange weapons and increase your chances.
>>566778154
>>566782237Tell him you're good at scrap banking
almost a year since they announced the MvM update...Where is it...?
>>566783121Browsing the workshop while eating pink cookies. Shirt covered in crumbs
Not a fan of the new SCM
5000 hoursshit game
>>566786419https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gYIzcUxlSQ
>>566783764slur bros, i'm thinking we're back
>>566783764How will competitive TF2 recover?
>>566783764>on top of not being able to leave the houseqrd?
>>566786239It's nowhere near as bad as the steam workshop update that got rolled back
>>566786751house arrest. nobody knows what for but he was talking about having an ankle bracelet
>>566787138punishment for playing sniper
>>566787138punishment for playing competitive
>>566787138the most underrated part is the dumbass needle gun medic at 0.01
>>566787138did he even call for a medic? I feel like the medic would've been more likely to heal him if he had made it known he was low on health. the red icon is a little harder to ignore than him screaming into VC
>>566785174They’re separating the slop maps and, hopefully, adding the promised aussies.Everything should drop by august.
if you hate the snow merc cosmetic… you have no soul and we can’t be friends
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3pRLEagUSGY
>>566785174>>566788831baby making sex with zhao
>>566785174they said it would come around Halloweenthey didn't say which year
>>566745946never worth, always stupid
>>566779820>>566780048he's not from colombia, that was a red herring you believed like a dumbass. why would he ever post his own twitter profile?
>>566786239SCM?
>>566795067Steam Community MarketLooks like your average trading site now
>>566787646nobody else was shooting the phlog pyro that waltzed into blu's back line, it was up to him to do some kind of dps
>>566794347why would a random profile have "demofloyd lover" in its name when demofloyd is a concept that only exists here
>>566794347He's stupid and autistic enough to have volunteered all sorts of information about himself, like the fact that his dad left, he lives alone with his mom, he faps to children's facebook pictures, and he has autism. It would be par the course for him to post his own twitter profile
>>566795208because it's a forced sharty meme. meanwhile the whole time that schizo has existed here, he's either claimed he's from multiple different counties or laid out red herrings you people ate up like you were starving
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UD7k9IOussQ
>>566793229>Shove yet another update in the second half of the year when we already have 3>Rest of the year is a dry spellNot releasing it this spring was a missed opportunity
>>566795274all sorts of false information you mean
>>566795473Oh so you think the schizo who spends all day every day here actually has a life and doesn't live alone with his mom? Don't make me laugh
>>566795367yes we shouldn't call the schizo out for being a 3rd worlder tranny, we should respect xer like good little team fortress 2 players
>>566795473>>566795576Also, he's made a point to dump his pictures of kids, it's why he gets banned
>>566795576that part is probably true, but he can't be from poland, russia, britain, turkey, or colombia all at once. britain, turkey, and colombia are just the most blatant red herrings so far.>>566795718correct, you shouldn't call him out since he's a troll and literally all he wants is attention, and you're dumb enough to keep giving it to him. just ignore him and votekick him, it's not that difficult.
>>566796002he slips and does the turkish "i" sometimes. He probably have a Q-Turkish keyboard. You can't really tell where he is from and who cares but definitely that's his nationality. No need to treat everything as a red herring to muddy the waters.
>>566796002>just ignore it browhen we don't call him out he ramps up the schizoposting until the entire thread is filled with spam and gore, real smart
>>566793548you tell me this after i blow a bunch of money on them even if i dont get my money back I personally prefer unusual taunts over hats :)
>>566796002Doesn't matter if you ignore him, the more you ignore him the more he samefags and responds to himself. He creates his own attention and the mods don't care
>>566787425Sniper is the most based class to play as.
I am a white English zoomer and there is no character to represent me, for me it would either be Demoman, Sniper or Scout.
>>566800829Scout is the appointed zoomer character simply because he's the youngest, despite the fact that it's the 70's
>>566796627that's not a slip-up, he started doing that shit on purpose relatively recently to bypass post filters and/or grab your attention, otherwise it would have happened a lot sooner considering he started in 2024. this has been determined time and time again>>566797290yeah, the only things that actually get moderation to give enough of a shit to get him banned. calling him out does literally nothing except feed his ego>>566798039it's still better to ignore and votekick him, helping him shit up the thread like *we're doing right now* helps nobody but him
>>566801493you're an idiot, it's not like this is a social media website where you can just block someone to never see or give them attention again, this is like if you let a homeless person literally shit in your room and you stopped acknowledging it because you think doing something would give him power
He's so perfect bros
>kicked from a powerhouse game by clan kids>call me a nigger>playing pyro the lack of self awareness is despicable
>>566802204plapping mimi's cheeks
>>566802204mimi thighjobs
>>566802104>you're an idiotproject harder newfag. the golden rule is "don't feed the troll", yet you're intent on doing just that. you pissing and shitting your pants every time he posts bait is literally his intended goal. you are biting his bait willingly every single time. you're doing it right now. do you think what we're doing is improving the thread's quality, retard? no, it's not. your analogy is faulty as well, and is clearly just trying to piggyback off the restaurant metaphor made earlier itt.acknowledging him won't get him to leave. the only thing you can do that has a net positive impact is to ignore the troll and not give him attention, and to send in reports. yeah, the moderation fucking sucks and trying to get them to do their job is like trying to win the lottery, but you have to keep playing it if you want to see results.
>>566801493The original demofloyd hasn't been here for months.
^ trolling ^
>>566803651He always tries to make a distinction between the ""original"" and him. Regardless of if he's not the original, he took his place and behaves the same way, so it makes no difference
>>566802725every /vg/ thread dies when you stop acknowledging the thread schizos as schizos and anyone who checks the thread assumes their behavior is normal
>>566803748exactly
>>566803757It's true, first time I went to /wfg/ they had stopped acknowledging their thread schizo who astoturfs their in-game clan as being some evil thing everyone should hate, and I actually bought into it as a newfag to their thread who didn't know otherwise
>>566803757wrong. /vg/ threads die when 4chan staff stop bothering to moderate them. you functionally cannot gatekeep your communities if there's literally no consequences for degenerative behavior. no, taking the bait and throwing a tantrum like you're proposing is not a consequence, it's a reward for the troll. stop being a newfag, grow up mentally, and realize that what i'm saying is true.
>>566803983and this is why kog and zesty's server are astroturfed as evil due to 3 year old drama and banning the vaccinator respectivelydemofloyd's goal is to make everyone think the thread is dead and it would work completely if we didn't call his out his spam
>>566802204People don't kick top scorers...
>>566804118At this point, you deserve him ruining your thread if you're this dumb and lazy.
>>566804095you're a retard who has been arguing for 2 hours to defend a literal child gore poster under the guise of "if we don't acknowledge it it's not a problem"i won't engage with your reddit nonsense any longer
>>566804118>and this is why kog and zesty's server are astroturfed as evil due to 3 year old drama and banning the vaccinator respectivelyI don't think that's quite comparable since there's legitimate reasons people might not want those servers in the OP.What I'm saying is the schizo was just making up shit and saying the guy posting the clan info was a bot with no evidence or proof, but if you're a newfag and you see a guy posting the clan info every thread it does seem like a bot.
>>566804192i got kicked 10 seconds after joiningjust clan kids being clan kids
https://youtu.be/KhKW66JLwiY
>>566804275>you're a retardyou're projecting again, retard>who has been arguing for 2 hours to defend a literal child gore posteri'm literally not, you're just too mentally stunted to understand one of the most basic facets of being on the internet, which is to not feed the troll>"if we don't acknowledge it it's not a problem"again, literally not what i'm saying at all retard, whatsoever, at any point. in fact, go ahead and quote me where i say this. this whole time i have been telling you to stop fulfilling the troll's win condition (ignoring him), and to do the one thing that has any chance of consequence (file reports). yet, your retarded ooga booga cattle brain sees this as>"oh, you don't agree with me that we should call him out on his bullshit, even though that's literally exactly what he wants and why he posts in the first place? you must be defending him!"you are genuinely retarded.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kaWYxPbf9S0"What!? It was obvious!"
>>566804770enjoy your dead thread filled with nothing but 200 variants of the phrase "so true sister" i'll take your advice and deal with it your way then
>>566805221get this through your thick fucking skull: the troll wants attention, that is his win condition. you keep giving him attention. you keep fulfilling his win condition. literally just shut the fuck up and ignore him, which deprives him of his win condition. report him when he breaks the rules (which is all the fucking time), and you stand the greatest chance of fulfilling his lose condition, which is him getting banned for breaking the rules. it's that fucking simple.what you are currently doing is feeding kills to a kunai spy by trying to melee him, and then raging at your team for not trying to melee him like you, when they'd rather shoot him from a safe distance.you are playing his game on his terms, which hands him a victory.your team shooting him stands the highest chance of actually killing him, even if it doesn't always do so.stop feeding the kunai spy your back, dipshit.
5 matches in a row and still queueing. Why does it keep putting me into games where the losing team left?
>>566805694Because those games have the most matchmaking slots that need filling. The matchmaker takes priority filling empty slots over autobalance trying to even out the teams.
There are valid times to ignore the schizo and valid times to acknowledge the schizo. Sometimes you can get him to have a meltdown pretty easily which is when we've had the most success in having the mods actually do something.
there will never be a game just like this ever again
>and banning the vaccinator respectivelyDid he also ban the Short Circuit like he promised?
Kill pyros. Behead pyros with the eyelander. Roundhouse kick a pyro onto the control point. Slamdunk a gibus pyro into the trash. Crucify filthy pyro mains. Deficate into a pyros sandvich. Launch pyros into a buzzsaw. Stiryfry pyros in a wok. Toss pyros in front of active sentry guns. Urinate into a pyros gasstank. Judo throw pyros into a woodchipper. Twist pyros heads off. Report pyros to Valve. Karate chop pyros in half. Curbstomb pregnant pyros. Trap pyros in the underworld. Dump pyros into the trash compactor. Liquify pyros into a vat of acid. Eat pyros. Dissect pyros. Exterminate pyros in MGE. Stomp on pyros skull with the mantreads. Make pyros check'em. Cremate pyros with the degreaser. Lobotomize pyros. Mandatory trade bans for pyros. Crush pyros into a paste. Drown pyros in jarate. Vapourize pyros with a pomson. Spawn camp pyros. Kick a pyro from your mvm lobby. Shark pyros from hat drops. Feed pyros to alligators. Slice pyros open with the half-zatoichi.
https://youtube.com/shorts/l1FKqd6nWKc
>>566806812Fuck pyros. Get head from pyros. Fuck a pyro on the control point. Slamdunk your cock into her. Cum inside filthy pyro cunts. Have the pyro make you a sandvich after. Launch sperm into pyros. Fry pyros' brains with sex. Toss a pyro's salad. Urinate into a pyro's mouth (she's into it). Judo throw pyros onto a bed. Twist pyros' nipples. Report your love for pyros to Valve. Split pyros' legs in half. Impregnate pyros. Get trapped into sex by demon pyros from the underworld. Dump sperm into a pyro cum dumpster. Submerge pyros into a vat of cum. Eat pyros' pussies. Dissect pyros' clothes off. Dominate pyros after defeating them in MGE. Slap pyro's face during sex with the Hot Hand. Make pyros suck'em. Cream inside pyros' holes. Lobotomize pyros into sex slaves. Mandatory slut training for pyros. Give pyros your love paste. Drown pyros in mad milk. Whip pyros' asses with a disciplinary action. Camp in the same tent with pyros. Invite a pyro to your mvm lobby. Give pyros your hat drops in exchange for sex. Fuck pyros like an alligator. Slice pyros' clothes off with the half-zatoichi.
>>566807130nice pic
>>566807130this but also shupos, zhao, yordles, olivia, pauline, pokegirls, female pokemon, neru, elegg...
>>566807537i think it's disrespectful to not list olivia firstshe is our ceo, after all
>>566807530Thank you>>566807537this butt*
>>566807663There's something uncanny about these models, particularly the scout's face. He looks bogged. Is this blender?
>>566795163here fixed it for you
>>566808687Blender but it's probably not Blender's fault, I think he paints over the faces
>>566806591it really is the most soulful game created
https://gamepro5.com/programs/tf2_weapon_card_creator/Anybody know how to use this damned website
>>566810738Trying to find if theres an inventory render of this
>>566811656>>566810738https://gamebanana.com/mods/204316 Anybody able to rip the backpack icon for this? Would use https://community.lambdageneration.com/tf2/post/engjc3cegte but its drawn and not a real 3d model sadly
>>566811980nevermind, 1 million years in ms paint
>>566812758>>566811980>>566811656>>566810738fucking finally gave this ugly bastard a visual form, first time theorizing up a weapon and I know its pretty weakish but no direct damage nerfs outside of the slightly slower fire rate, but I have no idea what to give as a positive stat
>>5668133358 seconds of bleed
>>566804556soultacular
You could high bomb, shoot six rockets, and still have 2 to leave withSounds reasonable
>>566813335Increased splash radius? Doom's was pretty huge
>>566813815By how much, 20%, 30%? don't wanna make it a nuke and just going 15% again would be a bit lame
>>566813886>>566813815I'll do 30% then. Gonna be nightmarish on cornerpeaking or whatever but using my 6.5k hours of past experience on "What could be fun but not pain"
>>566813335lmao this is so retardedly overpowered
>>566813886Right now the RL's radius is about 2.8 meters, Doom's was 4 meters if you use 32 units = 1 meter. So about 35% bigger?
>>566814168This is by no means balanced but now really funny>>566814119What are your suggestions for a single positive stat? I don't wanna directly give this fucker more damage since that role is mostly just for The Direct Hit in my opinion
>>566814362>suggestions for a single positive statit doesn't need any. it's ludicrously powerful as it is
>>566814486So revert it back to just all red text right? or go to a smaller but more reasonable explosion size like 20%? those are the two I'm getting from you.
>>566813779when do you ever have enough airtime to bomb with 6 rockets with a -15% firing speed? with the base jumper?
>>566814362General design plan was centered around how little ammo you have since normally you have 24 total ammo while this one you could do a 2 rocket blast jump and then bomb in with 8 rockets, but slower firing speed and only 8 rockets now, you are fucking stranded out there, roam for ammo/try to get it from dead players or fuck off is my ideal since dispensers and the cart would be agonizing to stay by to get an ammo fill up, let alone trying to spam with it
>>566814362>random damage spread always onThere, now it's faithful to Doom.
>>566815049>20% increased damage rampupTheres your 160 damage rocket from being in a medic's ass>>566814898>>566813779Get good at landing on the ammo packs
>>566815160>Get good at landing on the ammo packsthis doesn't answer any questions
>>566815980You will likely not have enough air time to do 6 or 8 rocket bomb ins, maybe 5 but it will be tight
>>566813335This is already unbelievably strong. I'd use this full-time in 6s. Part of the scout v soldier matchup that goes against soldier is his reloading is longer than the scout. Plus having only 4 rockets in your clip vs scout's 6 scattergun shots is awful. Good scouts bait all 4 rockets and push for a kill. Scouts literally can't do shit against this weaponGood soldiers already leave 1-2 rockets loaded in case they get pushed and need to jump out. So going from 2-3 directly to 8-9 rockets you can fire and never be punished is insane. The only punishment being you need more ammo boxes is massiveIf this weapon is added to the game, I can see this weapon being really good for roamers, not as good for pockets. One of the jobs of roamer is to sack, so you're already sacking with probably mostly full ammo, but now you can do crazy jumps + syncs and still have 6 rockets to kill the med with
>>566816036again i ask you, who tf is spending 6+ seconds airborne even when bombing high?
>>566815049Epstein was the GOAT
>>566816167Yeah I 100% was thinking about roaming being the main playstyle for it, especially with it discouraging camping by a regen source for your ammo back vs just killing somebody or that, gunboats may be tempting but you're better off pairing it with a shotgun I feel>>566816198Nobody mostlikely, just for some reason people assume airbombing only while I was thinking of a few air bomb rockets plus on your feet firing before jumping off
>>566816167That and its main downside of only 10 ammo is nearly completely disabled by it being auto regenerated every time somebody dies, but then again was thinking about it more for group fights or general usage
>>566816167>>566814486Way more of a "situational" stat now with its explosion being increased on player hit only, but more balanced, aka better crowd control but 1v1s are relatively the same besides slower firing rate since if you're hit by a direct you arent getting splashed
>>566816198You land height or in favorable position to follow up damage from rockets shot before landing, we're not saying that all would be shot in the air before landing.A normal soldier bomb gives you 2 on land and maybe one or two from reload to jump out
>>566817364Last revision of tonight, if anybody has any other ideas just tell me them, trying to make it doom enough feeling was a bit tricky but I think I got it (without too many stats)
I just want what they have
>>566817364I'll be preaching to the choir abit. I think the standard you need to look for is creating something between Beggar's Bazooka and Air Strike. Rocket damage should be lowered if explosion radius is that large and reserve is the entire clip. When you equip AS, you run a kill streak just so you can load 8 rockets at once in the clip but it has situational penalties and a reward for incentive. When you run Beggar's, you have to manually reload as much as you'd fire but have a drawback of sorts for overload that you can utilize out of combat or to initiate.In short, it may need something like higher mobility, rocket jump related bonuses <gain immunity to fall damage> or <take less % less damage from rocket jumping> to initiate better and a slight penalty <% slower rocket projectile speed> to cut down damage output upon large crowds.
>>566819381>gain immunity to fall damageThat one is pretty funny and like what Doomguy can do, doing slower rocket speed as well is another to making them 800ish HU/S as well, though I don’t wanna make this a wall of text in terms of stats
>>566819648>>566819381But giving it a direct reduction of self damage isn’t particularly what I’m looking for, since the doom rocket launcher fucking raped your health if you hit yourself with it, and the self damage a projectile does is very important to how far you go, along with the fall damage bit you suggested being more of a safe landing after all that instead of making the actual trip itself safer besides maybe being able to land on the ground and croutch jump each time for little risk, again raising more interesting stuff without making it a priority to equip, and the ammo/fire rate is still crippling enough to keep it in check usually
>>566806591https://youtu.be/0bv4Q0vXtmY
i can't decide if this is really really bad or just situational
>>56681736410 rockets is insaneyou could bomb in with 1 and have 9 left to kill everyone with
>>566827701and then if you get any kills you pick up the pack and have 5 moreif this was added there could be an achievement for getting 5 kills in 10 seconds with it
>>566827423It seems overly complicated and more like a risk of rain item than a tf2 weapon
>MVM update! Wow more brainless PVE gambling for insane whales!! And there MIGHT be a chance for strange reskins! Thank you Valve!!!Don't care. Remove casual. Delete sniper. Don't claim the game is being updated if they aren't addressing the real issues.
>sniper is le bad because he's the only one who can kill in one hit from range! no other class can do that!ok, when are we removing medic because he's the only class that can uber his teammates? when are we removing engineer because he's the only class that can teleport his teammates to the front line and build sentries? when are we removing spy because he's the only class who can go invisible and disguise? when are we removing demo because he's the only class who can set stickytraps?why is sniper having unique strengths a bad thing?
what was that? buff sniper?okay here you gohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xowdLmUeU0Q
>pretending to not understand thingssniper moment
>honestly not understanding thingssniper hater moment
at least they're honest, which is more than can be said about snipers
>>566829890sniperfags are delusional troons cant argue with someone who is addicted to dopamine the class
actually i'm not a sniperfag i'm a demofagi think if the demo and sniper are equally good the demo will win every time
that's what a sniperfag would say tho
>>566832892fine i'll post hours and usernamesatisfied now?
>>566829171OKKKKKKK let’s go over this one final time, as if the things i’m about to type haven’t been said a hundred times before >why is sniper having unique strengths a bad thing?his weaknesses arent exploitable enough. simple as.medic is very strong but medics need to be in the action to get their value, so its a lot easier to kill them.sniper stands far the fuck away behind his entire team and/or sentry. You physically cannot kill him if youre fighting in his effective range because every other class is designed for close range combat. You are forced to run across the entire map to get to him if you want to stop him from 1 tapping you whenever he feels like it. simply isnt feasible a lot of the time. flank routes are contested, there’s a sentry in the way, etc. (and at the start of rounds on certain maps he can literally snipe you from the fucking spawn room so have fun with that lmao)All this safety on a class that can 2 shot everybody in the game from any range with hitscan. >b-b-but the le spy counters sniper just go spy!!1!razorback lololol have funspy is also the worst class in the entire time so have fun going 1:1 for the enemy sniper
>>566723531https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u_ZKoKTP48E
>>566833250>unfeasible to kill a sniper when the flank routes are contestedit sounds like the problem isn't sniper, it's that the other team is coordinated and yours isn'tthat's not a sniper issue that's a team balance being dogshit issue
>>566833892yeah see thats the problem you shouldnt need team coordination to kill one guy
>>566834147i mean engineer has the same problem doesn't he1v1 he can outheal whatever you try against his sentry
>>566833056what idle server
>>566834202sentries take time to build, resources to maintain, and cant move.theyre also immune to the damage fall off problem by virtue that they take base damage no matter what. so you can actually spam them out for meaningful damage unlike sniper.You know the balance is fucking horrible when youre comparing a single player to an entire sentry nest.
>>566834147>yeah see thats the problem you shouldnt need team coordination to kill one guyBuff Spy
>>566834202Yes, Engineer and Sniper are the biggest problems with the game
>>566834841You can deal with this by buffing Spy.
>>566834452i think people overrate how much effort it takes to keep a sentry uplike yeah they take metal, but it's always built next to a pack and a dispenser anyway so whatever
>>566834982the fact that it takes any time at all is what differentiates engi from sniper
i think if we're trying to do an honest comparison of engi vs sniper we should consider that sentries take literally no aim whatsoever and can get kills while you're out of the room taking a piss
>>566834982it varies map to map, but it basically means you have to give up ground to get a nest going, sometimes a ridiculous amount if the enemy has momentum for engie that actually matters, since if they regain that ground he has to move all his shit up against which leaves him or his buildings vulnerable. but since sniper has infinite range he can give up as much ground as he wants and still be effective, and can simply walk back up no issues when the tide of the battle turns
>>566835337Right.That's why originally he was balanced by Spy. The class that can get behind enemy lines.
>>566835412spy sucks, spy fails at his job of countering sniper for a variety of reasons.nerf sniper, you cant buff spy because any new tricks you give him are just going to be solved in a few months and then he’s right back where you started
(You) did send Eric an email about the Sniper exploit going around, right /tf2g/?
Spies never focus Snipers anyway because walking an extra 30m is too much effort when there's a gibus Heavy right there
>>566835882>>566837831Right, you don't want to play TF2, you want to play a degenerate form of Quake III because you got washed out by actual oldfags. You want 6v6 rules enforced so you and your HRT-injector buddies can "own" the game.In the meantime, I will be practicing Sniper as much as I can to make sure subhumans like you have as miserable of an experience as possible.
>razorback>jarate>random crits>stands next to a sentry>is actually aware of spiesYeah, it's a really balanced matchup for the Spy. Meanwhile sniper does 150+ damage across the map when nobody else can
>>566838364Which is why Spy needs buffs.But you don't want that. You want to play 6v6 in pubs.
>>566838441just in case you're not baiting or stupid>you cant buff spy because any new tricks you give him are just going to be solved in a few months and then he’s right back where you started
>>566838174>>566838441Hallucinated nonsense.
>>566838624Yes, I get it, you don't actually like TF2. You got washed out of Quake III and see a game where you can be "better" than the majority of low IQ pubs and you're mad that someone is allowed to touch you at all.Bazaar's Bargain is a lot of fun btw.
>propose a solution>someone explains why the solution wouldn't work>"you don't want a solution!"bait or stupidity it is then
>and see a game where you can be "better" than the majority of low IQ pubs and you're mad that someone is allowed to touch you at all.A Sniper fag saying this is the most un self aware thing ever.
>>566839000trips of truth
>play a game>hate everything about the game that makes it uniqueThe good news is that Valve will never take your advice because if they did you would have never even heard of TF2. Also they hate this game.So, why don't you get back in the server, and line up your heads like the good little cucks you are.That is, assuming that you actually play this game.
>>566838364wtf why isn't a 1v2 fair for me
>>566839241the 1v1 isn't even fair for you
I see it is "shitters pretending that enemy sniper always has a perfect setup, team, and loadout to counter me no matter what I do" episode againdon't worry anon, there will always be winners and losers in pvp games, you being on the losing side is just a skill issueanyways I am off to bomb the entire enemy team with crokets
This discussion.
I hardly expect my "wild interpretation" of the people who ruined TF2 is going to be taken seriously by such low IQ subhumans to begin with.
>I am off to bomb the entire enemy team with croketscool, try playing legit some time instead of cheating
This guy really does just fucking hate everything about TF2, doesn't he?
luv me snoipahluv me quickscopesluv me bushwacka combuh'ate Spois'ate bettah snoipahs'ate flankuhsJust respect the söighloine, wankaSimple as
>>566836218It's no use! The moment this bug is fixed I will write a strong worded xeet and the fix will be reverted the next day. Mwahahahaha!t. concerned sniper main
>>566840571>Reverted the Sniper Contracker fix while we evaluate>Upon further evaluation, we concluded that some players like Sniper bypassing restrictions, so it won't be fixed :)
>>566840923That's what you get for nerfing Spy.
TF2 is unique because it has a Sniper. No other games on the market does this. TF2 is unique because I can play Counter-Strike inside Quake. By the way, Quake is for TRANNIES and TRYHARDS that are attempting to ruin and pervert the game. The reason why TF2 is popular and unique isn't because it's the only alive shooter with high levels of Quake, it's because of sniper. If you disagree with this you're a tranny and a tryhard and you're ruining the game and I'm going to write my powerfantasies about killing you as Sniper. Fuck Quake, kill Quake, Team Fortress and Half-Life were never based on Quake.
I understand that you and your tranny buddies want to focus entirely on Spy but you also revealed you hate Engineer and Spy, too, as well as crockets, or any other aspect of TF2 that makes it unique from Counter-Strike. So, while it took you a lot of effort to chicken-peck your way into roughly 300 characters of text, something that I expect was very difficult for your brown fingers as it took you a full 10 minutes to come up with it, I already know that you hate TF2.
>>566841476Eric merged fixes to Spy's bugged disguises tho
>>566841760I wasn't talking to Eric.
>>566841812Uhh...I didn't nerf Spy...
>Spy (...) and Spyfail
>Spy vs. Spykino
>I hate Engie, Sniper, Spy, and crockets>No I'm NOT going to play a game without those things>No I'm NOT going to make my own server with those classes restricted>No instead, I'm going to bitch on a thread that gets 30 active users at maximum for a game that gets maybe 5,000 actual human beings per peak per day.
medic is way more broken than sniperwhy don't people complain about medic instead
>>566842515because the entire game was based around medic’s uberchargethe devs have said this multiple timesthis ain’t tfc: there is no tf2 without the medic
>>566842779agreedjust like there's no TF2 without engie, sniper, or spy
There's no TF2 without gunboats, market gardener, and crossbow.
TRVKE
There's no TF2Eric ate it
You can make a server with no crockets, class restrictions, item restrictions...If you really think your vision of TF2 is better than what Valve (much smarter than you) created, you're welcome to go ahead and make that version. Hell, post it here, we'll playtest it for you.
>>566836218The jumping restriction after scoped shot was added one week later by Valve after some faggot on youtube bitched about it.I'm still mad about it.
just revert tf2 to how it was at launchwhat would we lose really?
>>566842779I always got the feeling the uber was a pretty late addition to the game... I dunno if there's enough information for me to factually and definitively prove that, but it's a feeling that I have. I know that they continued tweaking the game right up until release, and I know that ubercharge wasn't even originally called that (it used to be "invuln" in development). TFC didn't have an uber either. I get the impression that TF2 was an experiment that they kept changing until the end (and after launch)
>>566843502Compfags need to be shot.
>>566842515medic feels nice to have on your team the only broken thing about medic is overhealing
>>566843481Many people enjoy the game in the way you just described.
this is team fortress in its purest formhttps://youtu.be/5uvrdQJoh9I
Compfags need to be respected as the greatest players and minds of the game that have been fine-tuning something specifically designed to be the game for over a decade.
>>566842851tf2 plays the same without sniper actually, except heavy becomes more viable
if sniper is so bad for the game why are there no servers in the entire browser that disable him
they get ddos'd
>>566844024Looks pretty fun (I wasn't old enough to experience the old days...)If games like this came back one day I would like to give it a shot. I know some people still play stuff like this, but I bet it would be hell for a noob
>>566844368I dunno. There ARE servers that disable Engineer (even on official servers it's bad etiquette to be Engie on certain maps). It's probably because Community isn't alive enough.
how much money would it cost for me to run a server so i can disable sniper and see how it ruins the game
>>566844112>>566843883Alright, sounds good. Put up a server and let's test it out. You obviously are certain of it, so let's go already.
>>566843481Dario Cassali is much smarter than me (he made Dustbowl, Badwater, Plutonia Experiment, and a lot of Half-Life 1) but MANNPOWER is still dead
>>566844649Hmmmm. Could it be perhaps that people DDOSing you are trying to tell you something?
>>566845421Get on rgl.gg
>>566845693>Compfag garbageCan you guys just go fucking play Quake or something. Haven't you people done enough damage to this game?
>>566845570It tells me that Sniper fags are extremely degenerate and mentally ill people. They're the biggest cheaters. They ruin the game with bots. They send death threats and DDOS people. They're evil.
>>566845906The game was ruined when Valve listened to competitive faggots. No wonder Valve was willing to let the Sniper bots run around rampantly. If I were them I'd be embarrassed and try to hide how garbage TF2 is, too.
damn u newfags have never heard of ragebait b4 have u
Competitive faggots haven't heard of anything except grooming children and scamming Valve through the Emporium.
>>566846506only compfags are newfags as they joined the game in 2016
9 out of 10 competitive players recommend tow_phoneyland to be added for the Summer 2026 update
My fellow xisters, we must rise up against the oppressive pubbies and enforce 6v6 meta on ALL pubs at ALL times. Otherwise, how will be able to feel good about myself if I'm fucking DYING to a FUCKING MAGA SNIPER CHUD
>>566845693Oh so it literally already exists?Why the fuck are you complaining then?
When will people stop seething about the Sniper?
when you take your meds
>>566848162when I get my next shipment of Chinese bathroom HRT to calm down.
the meds in question being chinese bathroom hrtwe're all speaking in trooncase now, right? in order to show how cool and detached we all are?
變性人玩電玩
>>566845851Quake doesn't have 5CP, or the stickybomb launcher, or medic, or market gardens, or crusader's, or beggar's, or kritz, or source movement, and all these other thingsQuake, TF2, and casual TF2 are 3 different games, get over it
يا أخواتي المتحولات جنسياً، بينما كنتن تتذمرن بشأن شخصية "Sniper" على منتدى /tf2g/، غفلتن عن رفح، والآن لقد ضاعت. كيف طاوعتكن أنفسكن؟
>>566849503???source movement IS quake movement
>>566849503There's Quake, there's TF2, and then there's degenerate Quake, which is what you compfags want enforced on every game mode, all the time. If you were actually any good at Quake, you'd be playing it.
The majority of Sniper hate isn't from competitive players, it's from casual players. It's from the core playerbase. The core playerbase thinks he does too much damage and isn't punished enough. Sniper fags live and die by false dichotomies, and their worldview falls apart when this stops working. So, now I've said this, the conversation will immediately shift too "well you just have to deal with it anyway haha". The point of arguing about Sniper isn't to learn anything or actually refute something, it's just a way to reinforce existing beliefs. Let me guess I'm also brown and trans and a compie or whatever else the 95 IQ shartoid can repeat like a broken record to himself.
>>566849668when people refer to playing multiplayer quake they typically refer to not quake 1. during quake 2 they tried to fix bhopping and invented strafe jumpinghttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bdDOrgSRlJM
>>566849503>Mentioned
>sniper sissies believe their character is the perfectly balanced
Olivia violent pronebone
There's Quake, there's TF2, and there's Regenerate TF2
>>566850289Why would you rape the kid from the tf2 comics?
Oh look, the HRT kicked in for him long to calm down and realize he needs to pretend to be someone else to make his idiotic argument work.Sniper-banned servers already exist and they exist in competitive. If you actually wanted to play TF2 without 60% of stuff, you have those options. You just choose not to use them, because you're a negative-value person who needs to be shot.
there's magic the gathering
>>566850289many are saying this has been the only good post today
>>566850374Because demofloyd is one of the least degenerate posters here.
Nothing you wrote addressed what I said.
Yeah I don't actually have "address" anything you said because you're subhuman and not worth it. Sniper is staying. End of story. Don't like it? Go play competitive or make your own server. No amount of bitching here is going to make Valve get rid of a class that they made an entire trailer for.
>>566850398
Here we go again...
>>566850226Shup up
Literally proves everything about this correct >>566850061LOL
>>566851064What about this post >>566851040proves anything?
The chad class
mommy mommy, i won the argument on the 4chinz! that means valve HAS to get rid of sniper now!
LOL
>>566850374Because I want to.
*headshots you from across the map*nothin personal m8
Why can't people just learn to avoid getting sniped?
I shouldn't have to learn how to avoid getting Sniped. You see, I have determined that getting Sniped is illegitimate, so if I die to it, no I didn't. Now that the Valve employee who reads /tf2g/ has heard this infallible logic, they're going to get right on removing the class altogether that's on the cover of the box.
Floydfag so bored and desperate for attention that he has to pretend to be the Sniperfag. Mentally ill shartoids operate on the same wave length, it's not that surprising that shit attracts shit.
>went to frag some nerds for two hours>the autist is still sperging out over sniperpottis
>>566844112>tf2 plays the same without sniper actuallyexactly, so no need to bitch and moan about him then
>your favorite class>do you pick your nose>when’s the last time you accidentally injured yourself
I literally just countered a Sniper at mid-range as Heavy by moving back and forth and ducking somethings. I was revved up too.
>sniper is too strong = he needs to be removed from the gamewhat
Why is heavy unable to move if he's revved up and crouching
>>566852830sniper would be too hard otherwise
I geniunely don't get what you think complaining about your skill issue against Sniper is going to accomplish.Valve refused to even deal with the bot problem until someone else did it for them. None of us can control the direction of the game, so why are you here trying to convince us?
>>566852830It's kinda weird how crouching is even in the game really. Hypothetically suppose that there was no such thing as explosive jumps because it has Call of Duty physics. The amount of times where it's important to gameplay probably isn't huge. Spy crouching just looks funny though.
The funny part is that people are starting to stop whining about Sniper simply because the bots are gone. The main reason people disliked Sniper was because they were mindbroken by the bots -- it was never a logic-based critique of the class.
Why are people still crying about Sniper when the bots are gone?
god it would be so funny if he got banned for spamming baitposts about sniper and half the posts in the thread got deleted
>>566854172People here don't get banned for posting degenerate images so why would someone get banned for talking about the game?
We need to ban people for saying nerf sniper it's opposing our facts and logic. It's trolling. LMAO.
>>566854737Write a letter to Valve and leave us alone.
>>566850289only good post from todayholy fuck it's grim
you can stop the retarded both sides shit, the anti-sniper fag just has to go
Even though I'm not a furry, I kinda miss the rampant disgusting furry sprays from years ago
remove quickscopingadd tracer rounds to all riflesBOOM sniper is balanced
>>566856331agreed
>>566851406Tranny coded*
bring back the sandman
Sniper hatred is righteous even if nothing ever happens. It's an opinion that makes demons shriek even though nothing is actually happening and the game is never being updated.
>>566857704sniff
>>566857704this, but don't bring back the guaranteed crit cleaver combo that shit was aids
>>566857704it's still in the game
>>566857704and the old amby
>The sniper rifle was another tricky design problem. To meet players' expectations, a sniper rifle has to be able to kill an opponent with a single shot to the head. On the flip side, we need to ensure it can't be snap fired from the hip with the same effect, because then, in the hands of an experienced player, it also becomes the game's most lethal short range weapon, negating the Sniper's primary weakness. To solve this, we implemented a charging damage meter that only appears when the sniper is zoomed. This solution has several beneficial side effects:>The low damage both while un-zoomed and at the initial zoom ensures that Snipers can't kill opponents with impromptu snap fire. The charge time means Snipers can deal out low damage shots quickly or highly damaging shots at slow intervals, which allows opponents to overwhelm them with a coordinated rush. The high damage at the end of the charge rewards Sniper-esque behaviors, such as locating a decent vantage point and taking very deliberate shots.
In-game complaints I see about Sniper are from:>gunboats Soldier who is insisting to rocket jump at the sightline of Sniper, he can take cover from bombards at long enough distance>sandwich Heavy that walk towards him from long distance, never attempt any evade moves, Minigun never flinches him due distance either>Demoman that never utliize arc of projectiles nor charge stickies to retaliate and perhaps never heard of that function>Sniper mains who are actually shit at reading the map and game sense to expect targets from different sightlines or retaliate>while less likely a flaregun Pyro join the discussion, the one that walk towards him with w+m1 from long enough distance giving him time to evade flares I think rest of the roster don't have any right to complain because shit that allow them to retaliate exist long range (ie. Wrangler, Crossbow). And usually you don't hear complaints about Sniper from them.When a Sniper frustrate you, best move you can do is reconsidering your loadout options about your secondary then look for ways to incorporate both primary and secondary weapons in a combo. hint: Shotgun is a good weapon to initiate, fuck off with your passive benefit and healing bullshit
>Our starting theory was that, for death to be a positive experience, players had to feel like they could have avoided dying if they'd done something different. We found two factors that seemed to be important in light of that theory:>The second was whether you felt you were actually engaged with the person who killed you. Dying to someone you weren't engaged with, especially when you were already engaged with someone else, was aggravating. Even worse was dying to someone who you couldn't have engaged with, even if you chose to. In that case, you're very unlikely to believe you could have done anything differently to survive.>In particular, the second seemed to be the root cause of the hatred of Snipers. You're often killed by them while you're engaged with an enemy in the foreground, and most of the time the Sniper is so far away it feels like you couldn't have dealt with him even if you didn't have enemies nearby. In fact, the Sniper's goal is to create that relationship: he specifically wants to fight enemies outside their engagement range, because that's his primary advantage.
we need to ban sniper, spy, and engie so f2ps can actually play the game instead of whatever this is >>566806591
>>566857704>>566857996this is ass
All you have to do to make the Sandman fine is to remove the health penalty and replace it with literally anything else. Like a slower swing speed or no random crits (aka the bog standard balancing for most melee weapons). The baseball would still be really mediocre, but it would at least be a funny as a meme. The slowdown is such a relic of the past. Here's an idea, instead of slowing down your opponent just make the scout go faster for like 5 seconds.
>>566858796yesbnnuy ass
Current Sandman with pre-JI cleaver would be fun methinksYou bring back the satisfying combo and enemies can still fight back. Makes it more rewarding to hit someone that can still move and shoot
>>566859136Lol sister
Why did we stop getting festive weapons
Uh why are you discussing balance. Write a letter to Valve
>>566859274Too much effort to redesign weapons, easier to just slap on a festivizer and call it a day
>>566859274because we stopped getting anything from valve
It's out!https://youtu.be/0NBpZZMIj7g
I'm bored of playing the same 5 maps over and over again. Name 5 random maps and I will queue for them, no matter what. (my 2 conditions: no obvious maps, no mannpower/pass time)
>>566859732vsh_crevice_b2
>>566859732cp_brew
>>566859732Banana BayPipelineDoomsdayWatergateBurghausenGo repopulate the alternate game modes anon
>>566859578FSoaS is a lolcow who constantly milks this cow of a game for content. I don't know how he can still be making videos about weapons that have been in the game for >10 years.
>>566859732process, sunshine, snakewater, bagel, metalworks
>>566859938Rent is dueWeapon essay videos get clicks
>>566859578If you ask me the gunboats and mantreads should be combined to form a new item called the gunboats
Wow I really mindbroke him simply by giving him actionable advice to solve his complaining.
>>566859732https://gamebanana.com/mods/71290
>>566827701>>566827857yeah, and if you miss, you’re shit outta luck
>>566859578people who can't play soldier shouldn't talk about him
>>566859938niggertoro sexosex with niggertoro
>>566860693many have said this
>>566860203You've been bitching about spy being removed for like 4 hours when nobody said that. Move on, it's over.
>>566860748*headshots you from across the map*
>>566859732Rotunda, standin, lazarus, citadel, patagonia
>>566859578Shouldn't this nigga be screaming at his mom on stream?
What's wrong with video's about tf2
>>566859938Mantreads were used in the highest levels of 6v6 at last year's LAN because it's better against sentries in final pushes. Even shit items that nobody cares about sometimes have niche uses that nobody knows about.
>>566860748the only reason you'd be able to determine someone's post is because you have a friend who's a janny, and that's why you don't get banned, isn't it?
>>566860964*it was a dead ringer*
>>566861925Ah well, nevertheless*headshots the medic from across the map*
>>566859938SEXSEX WITH NAGATORO
>>566861727Nothing inherently is wrong with them, but many topics relating to TF2 are stale and many TF2bers are just beating a dead horse when they talk about weapons and issues that have been combed over many times by countless other creators.
Hop on Konata7/24
>>566862547Later.
>>566861727Because 90% of TF2tubers are compfags who are directly responsible for ruining the game.
>>566819381>>566827701Here, lore accurate>>566827423Get better at figuring out stats, giving heavy a clip is weird and sounds like that one reddit weapon made by a codtard
Suffice to say, if someone complains about random crits or random bullet spread being in the game, you can disregard their opinion since they don't actually like TF2
What about random fall damage
Also be careful of making wording short, because otherwise they can turn into reddit walls of text trying to explain what the fuck "Poison" are
>>566863032Soldier should randomly take 50-100% of his HP from fall damage
This guy is still having an imaginary argument with himself. We're on random crits now somehow.
Bring back Random Damage Spread as an option to enable easier, because it would be funny
which style is better?
>>566859930>get into a full match of pipeline>someone is spamming the short circuit down the tunnel on stage 2Fucking hell man...
>>566864154Both cheap knock-offs of the originalGotta stick with the OG, how could replace this cute lil nigga?
>>566864154>>566864451This makes me wanna buy the bird head and these miscs
>>566864451well… you can wear both
WTF since when can Spy equip Archimedes???
not counting the plushy or the birdhead, there’re four variants of archimedes:>normal>santa>robot>zombie
Why has there never been a spring crate
>>566865341Because Eric wants to spare us from 100 shitty bunny cosmetics probably
https://store.steampowered.com/app/3557890/Mann_Versus_Zombies/What is the /tf2g/ consensus on this? Could it be a based Left 4 Dead-inspired mod or is it just more TF2modslop + zombieslop?
Next OP
>>566868405I genuinely hate how reddit forced their shitty bird crap onto every merc
>>566868542
>>566868743That's not a TF2 character.
We used to get a free mvm ticket on christmas...
>>566868291it looks good and it's making retards mad in the discussions so I support it
>>566868291Holding my breath until they show actual gameplay footage and not just posters and a sfmI do like the idea of a l4d2 survival tf2 mod but I want to see it in actual action before I decide if it plays good or bad
which cosmetics should i add to this year’s summer update?
>>566870089Balls on chin for sniper
This OP is better than the last one -- but the next OP will be the really good one
>>566868291Too early to sayWe don't even know how it's gonna play
>>566870690What will it contain?
>>566870089reddit has spoken
>>566870904A reference
>>566868405Haven't you heard?
>>566865324>summer update>smissmas>mvm update>halloweenNo. fricking. way...
>>566868948WDYM that's scout
>>566870089>>566871328ERIC!ADD A BASEBALL SHIRT FOR SCOUT AND MY MONEY IS YOURS!
>>566872370Scout isn't a female, stop trying to change other peoples gender just because you did it to yourself.
>>566872370true, that guy must be blind
