Holliday Edition>Latest patch:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/04-30-2026-update.129989/>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki/>Collection of useful character buildshttps://deadlockmeta.com/>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/>Unofficial Competitive Newshttps://edl.gg/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Monsterfucker Mansion >>566636474
>>566732952>Holliday editionAs far as I'm concerned, every edition should be Silver edition
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EQYC-MKXsQ&tthe lash and drifter interaction absolutely obliterates my sides every time I watch thisit's also just got a really cute and fun art style to it
Silver objectively needs buffs.>muh e6Small sample size.
>>566733112sit mutt
>>566733143I'll buff Silver with my small sample size
I just found out that Pocket is the ONLY hero with a 'pronouns' part in their wiki page
What's your excuse for having a lower rank?
>>566733139looks like cringe tumblrshit not watching
>>566733143>silver is z++ tier>takes 10000 years to fire one shot after anotherwhat did eternus players mean by this
>>566733314kek
>Spirit Vindicta: TERMINATED>Spirit Bebop: TERMINATED>Spirit Victor: TERMINATED>Spirit Lash: TERMINATED>Spirit Calico: PENDINGgrim
>>566733314>ImplyingI'm phantom 5 baby, KNEELEveryone in my lobbies is a shitter, including me.
>>566733318most of the cringe tumblrsht for deadlock is just gay softcore porn so I don't know what's not to like hereIf anything this is a breath of fresh air
>>566733478gunslop wins again...
>>566733478Bring back Spirit VictorHe was way more healthy for the game. He at least needed 40k worth of souls to do shit, instead he plays off tempo now.
>>566733650>Bring back Spirit Victorabsolutely fuckin not
>>566733314How does this happen?
>>566733703>Only pure spirit carry in the game that isn't some gay hybrid nonsenseYesListen buddy its either Tempo Victor or Spirit Victor. Pick your poison.
>>566733817only under the condition that they don't buff his 3anything else but his 3
>>566733139>Ivy counts to four>IVdeepest lore
I'm reposting it ITT because this was genuinely fucked up of matchmaking to do
>>566729662>venator>vanillaLIE NUKE
>>566733318Cringe tumblrshit is based though
>>566733478I miss spirit vindicta, they're even calling her a m1gger these days...
>>566733216I thought this was a ben garrison cartoon from the thumbnail for a second
>>566733139the graves/celeste interaction >i'm not 12>by what, 6 months?always makes me lol
Am I crazy or is hybrid holliday not that bad
>>566733478Uhmm it's a spiwit meta though..
>>566734734>Am I crazy or is [...] holliday not that badyou're crazy
>>566733314That amount of healing, hero damage and objective damage divided by seven games is unironically higher than a lot of retards I get in the eternus bracket.You're gonna make it.
>>566733478>spirit part of obvious spirit heroes gets nerfed so hard that their gun is more reliable because it was not nerfedit happens so often in this game that you'd think they would learn at this point
>>566733314How does rank even work? Is it just win loss, do stats matter? Ive heard so much conflicting information recently that I don't even know.
>>566733478They already raped Spirit Calico by gutting her bombs anon...
>>566735035It used to be just wins and losses?, now they changed something and it considers your in game stats now too.By how much I dunno, but its noticeable. The game seems to take into consideration that you were with shitter team-mates and not nuke your rank into the ground.
>>566735249lol imagine if instead of a hand holding a sword it was a huge horse dick haha wouldn't that be funny just saying lol
>>566733643Uhh, sweetie. It's called a First Person Shooter, not a First Person Spiriter.
>>566735686but why are you bringing up first person in a third person game general
>>566735841Fuck im retarded haha
>>566733139>My sister's dead.
>>566735956Holliday really feels like the protag to the game her and Abrams probably
>>566735846they need to change extra spirit's icon too if they want the game to be successful in asia
>>566735035>i've heard so much conflicting informationit's legitimately all speculation, no one on the outside actually knows with any certainty how it worksthe only thing we can deduce is that it looks at more than just win/loss, that it evaluates individual player performance as well
Do you think the patrons would screw people over with their wishes?>Abrahams: Canonically they call him a retard for not being specific and just fuck off without giving any answers>Dynamo: Gets his body back... but since it has been 50 years he's really old and dies a few days later>Lash: Finally becomes well-known by accidentally doing something so heinous no one ever forgets about him>Drifter: Gets locked in an ultrahell dimension where he needs to fight for survival for all eternity>Silver: Fixes her lycanthropy by permanently and irreparably turning her into a werewolf>Holiday: She finally finds the Troubador... because he found her first.>Paige: Literally just drop her brother's rotten corpse at her feet.>Billy: The entire world changes for the worse as everyone starts thinking like Billy, and it all devolves into destructive nihilistic anarchy
I really hope Paige existing means we won't get a Haunted Armour Knight Hero...
>>566736148No one really knows what Lash's Wish is its kinda one of the big mysteris of the game I think and I dont think Silver is there to fix her werewolfness I think she'll just ask for a million dollars or something
>>566735442that flag might as well say free use
>>566736649gayer than actual gay art
>>566736045Took me a sec
>>566736148it would be kind of funny if for seven's monke's paw wish, he just>was erased from reality>his name now replaces the word "god" in every religious text across the world>people are outraged by this, and try as they might they can't revert the name change
Ivy is so fucking cool guys
Why did Deadlock flop?
>be Deadcock>add six new heroes with high quality modeling, texturing, animations, soundwork, gameplay>game continues to flop>be CS2>simply replace ammo reloading with magazine reloading>become more popular than ever beforeDeadcock is too complicated
>>566737156a literal sharp decline
FOR THE DJIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIN
>>566736649This is first time I see hetero ship which gives me feeling that Shiv is actually gay and McGinnis is a lesbian.It takes special kind of shitty skill to achieve that.>>566736748This.
>>566734819Only for the overpowered dev's pets: Apollo, Celeste, Mina etc.
>>566736748>>566737517grim
>>566736649why does this feel so gay?it's not gay, it's hetero, so then why does it feel so fucking gay? I don't get it
>>566737156Shit balance sucked the fun out of the game
>>566737675this x10000I hope gabe newell spanks yoshi/icefrog raw for what they've done to this game
>>566737446cs2s peak literally dropped after that shit update
>>566736434how the fuck have her ankles and feet not broken by now, good lord
>>566737580nothing grim about artist that lacks skill to make proper ship art my dude, it has this really sucky disneyfied feeling, both of them feel so out of character, I can't explain itshiv being balls deep in pocket is less gayer than those two artworks
I'm Ascendant now. When can I say I'm good at the game? Only E6?
>>566738040you have no taste and can't stop thinking of fags, simple ass "my dude"
>>566738325>simple ass>calls me fagone of us is here thinking of asses, and it's not me.
>>566738381why the fuck is rem a turtle...?is it just shitty fanart day or something
>22nd on steamdb is supposed to be a flopbait so bad it loops back to being good because why would this nigga think that would work
>>566738465lol
they really need to make krill cute
>>566738545This game has made zero (0) dollars
Is hollow point a bait item?
>>566738545still doesn't have an all-time peak higher than bongo cat.bongo cat...
>>566738545why are you acknowledging a retarded discord raid or wherever they're from? multiple posts about the game flopping within the span of 2 minutes really isnt subtle
reminder to abuse melee Haze before they nerf it
>>566738694Good for backliners like vindicta since she should be full health most of the time
>>566738742schizoGAWD...yeah it's not like the game flopping was ever a meme here, it's just one big shitcord conspiracy
>>566738694if you're a carry, yesif you're a frontliner, no
>>566737580I actually like this one - other is meh because I don't like thinking of Shiv as the little spoon
(Crit / Gun + Crit) should determine whether someone is cheating or not, right? like above let's say 40%?
why yoshiwhy
how good or bad would this be in game
>>566732778Im pretty sure the people saying wr doesn't mean anything are Marvel Rivals imports. Whenever you show them statistics they just hand wave them away if they dont agree with their anecdotes. I guarantee you that Venator upplayers are all Buckyfags
I think indomitable spirit should work like Linkens sphere in Dota. I.e. for single target abilities like seven's stun. I feel bad for Lash mains
>>566739659Yoshi really thinks he deserves to live
>>566740018>accidentally self-admits himself as a marvel rivals importlol
>>566739659buff every character to use gun and then nerf Venator for some reason
https://files.catbox.moe/9f7dyz.jpghow good or bad would this be in game
>>566740018Winrate by itself has never ever been a good indicator of hero strength. When Mina was OP she had like a 44% winrate. Bucky was OP even when he had a sub 50% winrate. Just like Hela. It's more pronounced in MR because counter switching and the like. I was a Magik main (99.8%ile -- I was good), but she sucked compared to Bucky and Hela despite the higher winrate? Why? Because only a few specialized autists play her, and no one switches to her as a back-up when things are going bad (which would deflate her winrate), like they do with Hela and Cucky
winrates are kinda silly I refuse to believe Venator is the worse character in the game
>>566740165would be rushed on venator every match
>>566740156>accidentally
>>566740165should have the deadlock eye on it
>we have marvel rivals players in here
>>566740018winrate does matter, but what people dont understand is its on a character to character basis instead of a general rule for everyone
>>566740538they have already breached our defenses.
Elitisttards are the worstYou are playing unfinished game with ass matchmaking and balance
>>566740538it's really true what they say about marvel rivals players fucking up pisslow huh
>>566734341https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9X0sI-xDDyQAnd to think that prior to the rework, most of her damage came from her ult, y'know, like a sniper.
>>566740857back to your chineseheroshooterslop you go little timmy
>>566732952>Not using the Original
>>566733478>carpet bomber Ivy: TERMINATEDIt was probably bad for the game but I really miss the brief period of time I got to be an AC-130
>>566741202autist
>>566740857and yet
>>566741359>overrwatch and dbd beating marvel rivalskek
>>566740857>elitistno dude marvel rivals just sucks dude that game is actual trash i'd rather play farmville
>>5667414852 really popular games?
>>566741485Overwatch has Tracer, of course it'll beat Marvel Rivals
Im new and im about to hit the last tier on the top line.How important is corner boosting? Can you get to bridge buffs with it? Im feeling as a new player my movement is pretty low and wonfer how required it all is.
>>566741523I don't get why people complain about deadlock movement being shit when marvel rivals movement is so much worse and more jank in comparison>>566741540I'm not one to judge coping mechanisms, so whatever helps you cope, feel free to do so anon>>566741594I don't care for brits
>>566741359Chinks attempting to euthanize their game by releasing 5 literal whos in a row. Thats why all the /mrg/fags are here
his name should be paul instead of roswell
>>566741828Didn't they just release Black Cat recently? I know she isn't blockbuster star but I wouldn't call her a literal who
>>566741737>play game that isnt deadlock>try to slide down stairs>disappointedYoshi spoiled me
>>566741928really cool idea but would fuck up the setting's cohesion beyond irreparability, unfortunately
>>566742079Just make his forehead really tall and make him speak Japanese.
Does anybody have the brown shirt/nazi Graves mod downloaded? Wasn't able to grab it when it was up :(
>>566742079It's literally 1949 in the game, two years after Roswell
>>566736148Need a Graves edit of this with the hand
>>566741485I don't understand how DBD still has a playerbaseThey use the ubisoft model pay to play with the new (meta) stuff on top of already charging 20$
>>566742265this is on the level of mods that change skin color or add transflagscringe as fuck
>>566742079
>>566742540okay NOW THIS design is a lot more fitting, yes
>tfw climbing up in rank but worried about it getting less fun with everyone being super tryhardI wish I would stop winning so much.
>>566742265the jokes really do write themselves huh
>>566741485Overwatch is a surprisingly good game despite all it's flaws. With that said I can never go back after deadlock movement.
>>566742469Zoomers think Bill is an original character for dbd.
>Enemy team tries to chain CC our MinaNot on *my* watch.
>vegas really put lash in the same tier as "character that cant be hurt and auto wins every team fight with her ult every 55 seconds"
>>566743187vegas complaining that,>waaaaa high dps characters with big health pools shouldn't have high mobility waaaaaaaaatoo bad so sad, get raped lil nigga
>>566743187She's clearly underpowered and in desperate need of Buffs!How the fuck do they upplay gun lash that much lmao, it's good but nowhere near as good as Mina.
>>566743351its funny as fuck because unlike mina, lash cant dodge slowing hex or knockdown for free
nerf parries they are cheats
>>566743590This but without any irony.
>>566742812>With that said I can never go back after deadlock movement.i booted up rivals for the first time in months the other day and the literal first thing i did in the practice range was press shift to dashi also kinda forgot how much of a visual clusterfuck that game was
Would you prefer Rem or Paige as a pick for support?
>>566744098sex with rem
>>566743925It is a miracle that even though there can be a lot of shit going on in Deadlock it remains mostly readable even with 8+ players brawling
I love victor
>>566744098Paige because rem players are retards who will opt for pillow or gun builds.
>>566741939They did, and she has the same VA as Silver actually
>>566744260
>>566744260unironically black cat has a better direction than silver, uh oh furfags look away
Flopping tranny deadcock.
>>566744510I have one after too much HRTSilver main btw
>>566744098with a clone of me playing? Rem without any doubt, hes great at being a macro crutch when played rightwith the average player? paige, they always strap themselves to the carry's ass cheek and make them carry harder unlike all the former secondaries playing rem
>>566744257you just aren't seeing the vision
>>566744214it doesn't help that rivals being in third person tends to throw things off, like in deadlock your crosshair generally is a good indicator of where shit will go but there are numerous instances in rivals where you will want your target offset from the crosshair in a certain way (and it double doesn't help that i play mantis who switches hands every shot and i swear it noticeably fucks with aiming esp in closer range enagements)
You are throwing if you're not playing gun Rem
>>566745226is this the retard telling everyone to buy glass cannon on rem
fun fact: marvel rivals has more non-human non-bipedal characters than deadlock, even though the latter advertises itself as having an "occult, supernatural theme"
>>566744260>>566744461>>566744491Calico should look like this.
>>566742487I agree if this was just edgy for the sake of being edgy I'd be fine with it, i really don't care for politics from either side desu
>>566746220this cannot stand, we NEED a sexy quadrupedal dog hero NOW!
I wish I never learnt what cookie meant
Why do some of y'all self-insert by making every character lgbt? Taking straight characters and making them gay wont change the fact holliday takes BBC and enjoys it
so is pocket a reference to how elon musk has multiple troon sons due to his bad dna
>>566746623>cookieexplain
>>566739659But they nerfed gun tho>max gun investment went from 140 or 130 to 100The problem is that they also nerfed HP bar so gunfags can just squirt 5 trillion bullets at you with no real hard counterplay, shit like spirit lash on the other hand is countered by 1(uno) item[spellbreaker] because he's fully reliant on his brust, if it fails he's basically fucked.Honestly most of the balance problems in the game imo are in the item shop rather then with the heroes themselves
>>566746820how soft do you like your fortune cookies
>>566746623so hot you can't stop thinking about it huh?>>566746820he's referring to fortune cookie which is slang for dog pussy because they look like fortune cookies, cookie for short
>>566746856>nerf gun>they also nerfed hpgun nerfs still don't matter as long as siphon and lifesteal is in the game
how the fuck do you understand anything of what drifter is saying
>>566746623Wait till you learn about knot>>566746820Silverfags constantly mention cookies because they want to fuck dogs, not Silver or furries, real dogs, apparently dog genitals look like cookies or something, the whole thing is pretty weird and disgusting desu and a silverfag explained it in detail like 3 months ago
>>566747060>>566747114>>566747212that's some white people shit
>>566747114being this smug about zoophile terminology is just pathetically strange
>>566747151>lifestealThey nerfed that too last patch, so they're going in the right direction by your estimate>inb4 remove it from the gameLet's not go full retard now
>>566747183it dont mattah...
>>566747212I know what a knot is because I read alpha/beta/omega, this zoophilia shit is just disgusting
TAM TUH DREEK UOP
>>566747379ok but can we at least admit siphon shouldn't be in the game
>>566747285>>566747302Unfortunately silver attracts the mentally ill, i just wish they'd stop shitting up the thread with their bullshit
>heres why silver is op>she can run and fly away from you
>>566747302it's a good term and fortune cookies are tasty>>566747427it's hot and based actually
>>566747574I like the idea of Heartsteel existing in the game but as it is, siphon has problems, it has already been nerfed
They should add Hoodwink to this game.I think that would improve the quality of this general.
>>566748036>hide featurehuh...? where did the message go...?yay! I can no longer perceive the mental illness in this thread
>>566747396I shudn' have pleyd widd mah fuuud...
>>566748049>HeartsteelWould be kino on heroes like BillyLet me turn into a fat chud.
>>566748020he also complains about shivokay real shitmaybe the reason why Eternus players put Silver so high is because most of them hate movement, and they rank Shiv and Silver pretty high because they hate movementlike Lash being in the same tier as Mina is just fucking silly, there's some obvious movement bias influencing the pro level tiering here
game needs to make you get fatter the more unclaimed souls you have
Silver is OP because human form yet ArcanistGODS think Werewolf is the problem.>Drops a capacitor on your head, now you can't more>Slamfire maxxed with express shit ripping 70% of your HP
>>566748326funny rem pot belly mod
>>566748326i'm playing with all of these mods
>>566748407>yet ArcanistGODS think Werewolf is the problem.buhbuhbuh-based?! does this make vegas an ArcanistDEITY?!!
>>566748493I don't care about what cheating russian "Pros" say, they are retarded just like Arcanists.
>>566748493I do wonder how many of these guys would be hardstuck when we get eventual mmr/rank resets.They are not ready for the gun rems or spirit geists.
>>566748480Im sure you understand the Gravity of your choice.
>>566748616uh oh
Remove the melee damage resistance on point blank, torment pulse and rebuttal PLEASELanding a melee should do something if you build for it
>>566748480all mods are cheats>>566748326disgusting cheats
>>566748841Im not talking about mods, even though some of them are just bullshit, im talking about bug abusing and cheating Russians who plague the EU eternus ladder.
>>566749097is that one bug where you can get more souls by meleeing the troops as a team still a thing or did they patch that out already
buff parry remove meleeremove modsadd back 4 lanes
>>566748219It's not even ideal on heroes like brair but i still run it on like 30% of my games with brair because it's so fucking fun, i also run it first item on poppy support, I'd fucking DIE for a heartsteel stack, idk how riot did it but that item is always so much fun for some reason, the closest item to it in deadlock is trophy collector but that item is garbage desu, the reward is just not worth it and you're actively punished for running it
>>566747396aw hell naw bruh he's rp walking
if you move with any key that isn't WASD or space, you're fucking cheating>b-b-butANY key.
>>566749191They patched mere hours after the incident. I was mostly talking about Doorman trapping enemies on tunnels and Vindicta niggers aimbotting.
>>566749230>buff parry>remove meleeAnon just went full retard
>>566748841>metro
>>566749332Overwatch and Marvel Rivals mentality at its finest, his most played characters are Haze and Warden btw.
>>566749383>Vindicta niggers aimbottingthen that ain't bug abusing that's just straight up scripting lol
>>566749332i move with my left analog stick and the a button
>>566732952https://www.twitch.tv/tarzanedThis is one of the most famous League lolcows, if he becomes a deadlock regular he will become like a 100 times more whiny version of metro it's going to be epic
After the nerfs, Shiv feels so fucking awful in lane. I feel like I can't deal any damage until level 14.
Silver's juicy puffy cookie
>>566749754>This is one of the most famous League lolcows>300 viewsLMAOOOOOOOOO
Gun paradox can't be THAT good right?
>>566748670I do.
I just had the most amazing matchmaking of all time.> Holliday, Sinclair, Vindicta, Warden, Shiv> Other team has Abrams, Wraith, Infernus, Drifter, Dynamo, Kelvin> Game is over in <20 minutes > Holliday on mic going "it's just a game bro you're not skilled unless you play the worst character I could totally be out of shitlow if I played drifter"
>>566749754>He's playing Minathe jokes write themselves.
>>566746436>erm im a apolitical (lie) poorfag Blast your skull to bits
>>566733515im phantom 5 right now but I'm just a temporarily embarrassed ascendant on an unlucky streakif I locked in and only queued as m1ggers I would be asc 5, but I want to have fun
>>566734987All heroes should use their abilities and gun equally and buy items for both.Trvth nvke.
>>566749532>Haze and Wardeni didn't fucking say you're allowed to press 2 to move faster either
>>566749754>bitching about wraith (justified)>takes a t1 over helping the Ven (who's doing well) getting raped by silver in their own jgLOL, won't have fun when this guy gets to my mmr.
>>566750228Same, the one time I got into a ascendant lobby I carried but afterwards had the most soul breaking lose streak. Went from phantom 6 to 2, currently recovered to 5 but goddammit man I was so close.
>ban hero>they start to appear in almost all of my gamesYOSHIIIIIII DIEEEEEEEE
best build for warden one-tricking?
>>566751061GunImpossible to fuck up don't worry
>>566751338well I meant likewhat kind of gun build though
Holliday is so much fun to play
>>566749785on my face
Minotaur when?
>>566751647Imagine his musky balls...
Vegas dropped a new tier list, here's some interesting things he said in the video:>Movement creep is getting to unbearable levels and in his opinion its just a question of time before it gets nerfed>Too many heroes with great mobility and damage also have one million HP>Doorman, Bebop and Lash have lower winrates than they should because people play the wrong builds (kidnap, bomb and spirit instead of bell, gun and gun)>Sinclair would be higher but he's the only hero in the game that is considerably difficult to play well>Quad-tornado is the best Mirage build>Vindicta would be OP if half the cast wasn't able to fly and rape her in the air>Rem is so bad that even if you win you lose MMR because the game thought you were trolling because you have zero impactHe also didn't rank yamato as a joke
>>566751951>Victor above dynamo