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>Total War: SHOW & TELL [MED 3 / TWW3 / TWW40K / ROME 2]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=495WwWyS2TY

>End of Year Retrospective and looking ahead to 2026 -
https://community.creative-assembly.com/total-war/total-war/blogs/92

>Latest Fantasy News
>Introducing Bhashiva & the Tiger Warriors:
https://community.creative-assembly.com/total-war/total-war-warhammer/blogs/94-introducing-bhashiva-the-tiger-warriors
Lords of the End Times - Announce Trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jPIpN9OKKR4
Warhammer Trilogy Retrospective: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HuCIL3SmIHc
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>Latest Historical News
Recap & What's Next: https://www.totalwar.com/news/total-war-medieval-iii-recap-whats-next
Total War 25th Anniversary Showcase (End Times / Medieval 3): https://community.creative-assembly.com/total-war/total-war/blogs/91-total-war-25th-anniversary-showcase
Total War Three Kingdoms Retrospective: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hCwQUSXwA48
Building Medieval 3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5AItoj1YRE

>Latest 40K news
Total War Warhammer 40,000 trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KVgCDqLTaJk
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Total War Warhammer 40,000 Developer's Vision: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=njanDkiImPw

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Previous Thread: >>566367745
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Thanquol soon, friends!
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>>566767317
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TAXEIS
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>https://www.gamefile.news/p/segas-super-game-is-no-more-as-mystery
The super game is no more, all in on TW now for sure :)
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>>566767642
who wants to go first?
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>>566765347
vampire counts entire thing is stacking auras on melee blobs, crypt horrors can fit well on top of your infantry(doubling the effect of all your buffs) and they stop enemy monsters from just walking through
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>>566768328
we call it aura farming
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>>566768328
>and they stop enemy monsters from just walking through
Through to what? More zombies/skellies?
They're good because of the AP bonks with splash
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Eldar x Human
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>>566774664
based
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>order ranged unit to shoot at enemy
>they don't
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>series of battles against an enemy you don't feel like fighting but you have to or the ai will lose for you so you avoid playing the game for days until you finally come back to it a month later and forget your entire campaign strategy and just start over
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>casually forgets your orders for no reason
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>>566776969
>want to play dwarves
>every dwarf LL except Thorek and Malakai start next to insanely annoying and unfun enemies
I always trick myself into thinking a Thorgrim campaign would be fun and then want to rip my eyes out after spending 40 turns fighting nothing but greeniggers and skaven
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>>566767317
Have you not read the latest leaks? Thanquol has been banned by GW because they want him to be used in an unrelated upcoming Age of Sigmar game.
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>>566779736
Nonsense, friend. Do you really expect me to believe they are making more age of sigmar games?
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>>566780386
AoS is extremely popular.
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>same range as Crossbowmen who have better AP and have an ECST unit thats pretty strong
>no AP meaning all those heavily armored SEM/Large units will tank through their BvL to kill them with ease + Hochland Long Rifles do SEM/Large unit sniping better
>requires a T3 barracks building, same tier building as Gunnery school which has Nuln Ironsides, Hochland Long Rifles and Outriders (Grenade Launcher), all of whom outperform them.
>only get any real benefit from being in a Markus Wulfhart army and Huntsmen Generals who have been vastly outclassed by Master Engineers.
These guys really need some love, at least give them double the AP (they only have 3 lol) and let them fire in 360 degrees, would make them much better skirmishers without turning them into broken units.
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>>566780608
Come on now, friend, at least try to make it believable.
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>>566780852
Age of Sigmar consistently outperforms Warhammer Fantasy Battles.
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Glottkin defeated the Prince and Emperor - Karl Franz.
Who did Thanquol defeat?
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>>566780608
THIS
grognards are missing out on what is effectively the RTS of the century
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>>566781026
Really CA would be smart if they abandoned 40k TW and went straight to AoS Total War.
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>>566557595
After they retconned Necrons into being what they are the Eldar don't have the niche of being the ancient, immortal, wise race anymore. Especially considering all the fuck ups they do all the time. If they unretcon Necrons and stop with the marine wank and basically go back to 4th edition era writing that would fix a lot of trash for current 40k but GW desperately wants the elusive modern audience and are now making the exact stupid mistakes that Disney (or really even post 2008 George Lucas) did with Star Wars
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>>566781241
The problem with the Eldar is they have no future. They're a dying race with no plan to survive, just a plan to make everyone else lose faster than they do.
40k is supposed to be grimdark, but because the Eldar have no actual end state that benefits them in any way, they become less relevant than the Tau.
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>>566781371
Even if they have no future as a race that is fine thematically as a warning to humans. The issue is that they fill zero role that other races don't now fill. Necrons are more and more the "ancient wise" race more than Eldar are because of how GW changed them.
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>>566780926
It outperforms a game system that was discontinued ten years ago? That's not very impressive, friend.
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>>566781613
I disagree. I think they should have some victory condition that works for them, even if it is somewhat impossible to achieve.
Like "here's how we repopulate the Eldar empire", "oops that plan keeps being foiled, but let's keep trying." It's better than nothing.
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>>566781715
The issue is that they have that but it's a retarded plan.
"Let's try to fight the warp gods with our own warp gods".
Because that worked out so well the last time you gave birth to a new god, and the chaos gods totally did not completely ream all of your faggot gods before.
Say what you want about the Necrons (I dislike them compared to the evil spooky version they used to be) but they have a way better plan of dealing with the warp than the retarded elves do, which is to literally seal it off from being to interact with real space in tangible terms. The Eldar care more about picking fights with people that did shit to them millions of years ago like the Necrons over cooperating and solving problems mutually. I remember watching the Necron dialogue/cutscenes in Battlefleet Gothic Armada 2 and whenever the Necrons were trying to negotiate with the Eldar the Eldar would just scream "liar" and suicide rush every time. Same with the modern books.

If they just say that the Eldar are doomed to die out in real space but they put their energy into carving out an area of the warp they can live in after they die (like Commeragh but not evil) and not be insta consumed by Slaanesh then it would be more dignified and give them something to fucking do besides bum around with humans.
Or revert Necrons to what they used to be so that Eldar can be the wise reasonable race again
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>>566780609
They have bonus vs large damage which beats crossbowman damage.
If you're using Huntsmen to kill infantry, you're bad at the game.
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What do you think life as a flagellant must be like?
Apart from short, I mean.
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>>566784152
painful.
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>>566783631
>BvL that loses to Hochland Long Rifles
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>>566784152
short, painful, and full of purpose
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>unit of gunners refuse to shoot at anything within 30 feet of an allied unit
>artillery will gleefully fire directly at a melee
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>>566788145
artillery crews are the most insane individuals
my buddy said during training people get knocked out by the guns because they didn't give enough clearance and then will go back and do it again the next day
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>>566788353
WHAT?
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is there a roll chart with the most recent lords?
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>>566790505
kek
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>>566790538
Why dont you just hit the random button?
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>>566767642
PEZHOI!
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Reddit hates the Teutogen Guard and Knights Panther and you should too.
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>>566795442
Oh boy here we go. NERF IT BEFORE ANYONE GETS TO HAVE FUN WITH IT, QUICK.
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Today I learned: The Empire is apparently the only faction/place in the entire setting that actually gives giants a chance at long term homes and employment, and an actual (somewhat) peaceful life. Every other faction uses them as mercs for one quick battle or campaign then forces them to keep moving because they don't want to feed them.
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Time to fix ranged units
>Remove mandatory minimum 1 AP damage
>Increase effectiveness of shields by 15%
Now only guns and units dedicated to AP will do significant damage to heavy units. a unit of goblin archers should, under no circumstances, be doing hardly any damage to something like Chaos Warriors.
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>>566795442
>>566795586
I bet this guy plays MP. CA needs to actually do a whole game rebalance because the powercreep in general from game 1 to game 3 has been insane.
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>>566796808
Can we please completely separate MP and SP balancing with the new engine?
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>>566798104
It's never been an engine problem. It's a "we can't be fucked to balacen the game so let these fags who think they know what balance is based on a mode nobody plays do it for us" problem.
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>>566798104
You mean the thing we already have in Wh3 and had for many years?
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>oh I'll just autoresolve this one, I outnumber the enemy 5 to 1 and the power bar is significantly in my favour.
>what's the worst that can happen?
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turn 50 gamers is this an actual thing or mod author schizophrenia
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>mumakil as a bodyguard
time for a victory lap I guess
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>>566809637
Having a regenerating elephant unit is sick. How many models is 75 soldiers?
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>>566810342
I think it's 6

they're much more fragile than you might think though, they go down pretty easy to mass javelins
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>>566809589
I will trust schizo modder more than CA. Even if CA said that the sky is blue, I will still look it up just to see it for myself.
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>>566795442
I hate reddit
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>>566779736
>Thanquol has been banned by GW because they want him to be used in an unrelated upcoming Age of Sigmar game.
Holy based!
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>>566795442
Good. Empire is supposed to suck.
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>>566767317
So is he actually confirmed or what? I have not be following Warhammer news.
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>>566813008
Nope.
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>>566813008
Just ignore him, he's already posted that image since at least 2019.
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>>566813383
I know, since I was here back then and before, but I am wondering if Thanny is actually confirmed.
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>>566813414
Unironically, probably in the later part of the year, they've yet to release the trailer for the character pack for fuck sake.
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>>566813414
There was a stormfiend silhouette in their latest dev blog.
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I've been reloading this for half an hour now trying to raise an army that can autoresolve him cause he declares war on end turn.
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>>566774664
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I give up, I must change difficulty.. cause I really don't wanna fight this shitlord.
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>>566815740
AR then? you're VC just recruit them in a single turn again
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>>566816068
I did AR, yes. Had to lower difficulty for AR to let me win tho.
The raise dead pool up there is completely empty and even if I did that, I'd need at least 3 armies to defeat his.. maybe more. I'd probably have to drag mannfred north for like 7 turns to kill malagor. In the meantime he probably reks the entire province and MAnnfred gets stuck in that shitty swamp area where he can't move.. so like.. that's a disaster situation.
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BEASTMEN RAROO!!!
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>>566805362
SWANNED
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Fighting lizards is really fucking hard. Those salamders absolute destroy mannfred, my flying units and bomb my moshpit. It's giga aids.
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Havent played the game in a good 2-3years and genuinely, what the fuck is wrong with slaanesh fags?
They've been painfully embarssing themselves, over and over again, is this some sort of humiliation kink baked in the code? (legendary/vh btw)
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>>566818379
the pic tells another story. I assume you're being sarcastic.
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>>566821117
I spent lots of time trying to empty as many lizard hunting packs as possible and the stupid fat dinos with the cannons. I had to run mannfred to regencap and spent 10minutes after the battle was won resurrecting infantry. Some of those graveguards took major damage.
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>>566812932
Playing Ungrim for the first time (VH/VH) am I supposed to be using Slayers as frontline units? On turn 5 and I feel like theyre just way too squishy, I see all the benefits Ungrim eventually gives them but those feel like itll take forever to get to. Should I do the usual and just stick to Dwarf Warriors while sprinkling in just some Slayers for Ungrim?
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>>566826153
19 slayer, CTRL A right click
Plays the same as Skarbrand
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>>566826528
>Plays the same as Skarbrand
But Skarbrands campaign is basically him one man armying because his armies squishy in the earlygame while hes essentially a monster of a unit. Ungrims good but I dont think hes that good, only thing I can see as a similarity is having to fight every battle manually because of Slayers having awful AR.
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>>566826698
Ungrim ends up with like 80% wardsave
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>>566826153
Just do slayers. It doesn't matter if models die, you never lose control of the unit, just pull them out when they drop to like 10 models.
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>>566826698
>his armies squishy in the earlygame
Mein Neger.. what
Early game his armies are strongest cause nothing can beat a bloodletter before turn 30. So you just send this absolute moshpit blob of 19bloodletter around. They are basically immortal.
Skarbrand himself is great, sure.. but he is the squishy thing.
There is no better T0 unit in the game. Bloodletters are absurd.
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>>566776969
>you finally come back to it a month later and forget your entire campaign strategy and just start over
lmao
Sometimes I wish there was a way to attach small notes to saves so I could remember wtf I was doing in a campaign.
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>>566774664
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>>566816480
Goy Herd!
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Waiting for Bhashiva.
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>>566829242
same
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>>566829242
I am going to do a Tigermen only campaign.
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Who actually enjoys playing in Lustria? It's just 4th/5th faction DLC dumping ground
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>>566829242
do you think Zhao plapped her?
he's a shapeshifter, surely he can shift into a very sexy and seductive(for Bhashiva) tigerman if he wants, give her some dragon-blooded cubs
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You guys know ET dlc is getting delayed, right
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>>566836836
Dude, when was the last time that Creative Assembly didn't delay something?
Of course we know.
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Made some Skaven OC
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>>566839548
he cute
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>>566839548
>mass grave
>implying his corpse won't be eaten by the other slaves
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>May the thirteenth in the year of our Lord of two thousand and twenty six
>still no news on the Skulls event
it's over....
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>>566839747
>implying they won't all run away
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JUST BROKE INTO CA OFFICES AND DELETED ALL THE SHANGYANG FILES HAHAHA GET FUCKED FANTACHUDS NO MORE DLC AFTER LOTET FOR YOU!
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>>566781026
The first GW game to hit a sigmarillion players!
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkj8Y_1SVD4
>BHASHIVA - Faction Deep Dive
>Scheduled for 14 May 2026
Wasn't expecting this until the end of the month.
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>>566843951
Cathay kings stay winning
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>>566843951
Nice! Good find.
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>>566840412
I'm hyped for this years skulls since not only are there lots of games I'm interested in, I'm curious to see if a new good fantasy/40K game will get announced that isn't mobile shovelware
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So excited for the announcement of the trailer for the announcement of the (cinematic) teaser for the announcement of the (also cinematic) sneak peak for the announcement of the (also also cinematic) first look for the DLC!
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News in high demand and low supply.
You take what you can get.
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Where the fuck is Mung and the Leering Devils?
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>>566843951
Is it just me, or have they changed Bhashiva's appearance?
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>>566847607
um chuddy a rushed dlc is never good while a dlc that's been delayed 8 times will eventually be playable after a mod fixes its still existing problems
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>>566847925
Removed her pupils at least.
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>>566847607
I'd still rather have this than when they went radio silence for whole years.
Of course, it'd be better if they didn't take eons to release stuff.
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>>566847134
It's just going to be dominated by TW40K and DoW4 news because those are the major projects releasing before the next press event. Other games will get minimal rep
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News: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GI4eh9h7kaQ
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>>566847134
The Skulls event barely makes sense since 40k vidya shouldn't be a yearly occurence

No one cares about mobileslop and people want finished, polished games and not constant dev diaries with delayed release dates
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>>566796808
MP doesn't do elite infantry, it gets focus fire by ranged and magic and rarely pays for itself.
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>>566798104
It's not a new engine thing

Unlike Microshit, CA refuses two separate tables for MP and SP because it's too much work when in reality they can leave SP/skirmish tables alone since players don't really care about balance

In AoE2 they have different values for MP (which has a ton of MPniggers almost equal to Starcraft), skirmish and campaign
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>>566848851
>since 40k vidya shouldn't be a yearly occurence
It's mostly promotion for content updates/DLC for existing/announced games
New games aren't commonly announced.
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The Skulls dates are up.
https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/qxyddr1b/warhammer-skulls-video-game-festival-returns-this-month/
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>>566851037
Cool! I look forward to Total War and Dark Heresy.
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>>566851037
>TW40K not listed
damn, Hyenas really did a number on CA. They are behind schedule with everything now, everything is delayed.
Next news really will be at the end of June, like they said in that vlog fucking kek
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>>566852070
They literally told us that 40k news would be on june only
If it was going to be on skulls, they would have told us
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>>566852070
More likely, they changed plans for wh3 and pushed back their original THE FUTURE OF timetable because of hyenas, which in turn delayed their entire pipeline
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May 14th: Bhashiva showcase
May 21st: Egrimm van Horstmann showcase

It is a good time to be a Total Warrior!
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>>566848858
It's not just that. Elite infantry is almost never cost-effective in melee combat against equivalent cost of their intended target. Anti-large elites are always less cost-effective than anti-large chaff. Anti-infantry elites will always lose out to a comparable cost of regular melee inf, and are always worse at the anti-infantry job than dedicated anti-infantry monsters or cavalry.

Elites make sense in campaign where fewer casualties in a battle has value on the wider campaign, and where the general snowballing nature of your economy devalue cost-effectiveness in favour of just building huge expensive armies. In MP you have a set, limited resource pool and no incentive to preserve units beyond their maximum ability to absorb and inflict damage so the only thing that really matters is cost-effectiveness against expected targets.

Even if Elites WERE cost-effective, they would suffer from being countered by ranged, magic and just getting isolated and destroyed by counter units. But those things barely matter because at the end of the day if you put an elite into melee combat against the things it's designed to beat it will usually not pay for itself.
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>>566851037
>Battlefleet Gothic
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>>566853885
it's just shows all warhammer games so far. I doubt BFGA or that AoS game will get anything
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>>566852070
honestly if hyenas killed off CA i would say they deserved it, fucking leftist retards
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>>566774664
EMHF
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>>566851037
So Bhashiva on 21st of May, together with Skulls? With the rally point that is supposed to say everything there's to say about her, that'd be logical.
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>>566855035
Emergency Medical Hologram female
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>>566851037
Why 7 days? Holy fuck James Workslop
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>dlc news tomorrow
>no official post, just learned it from the meme youtuber
CA is so fucking checked out
Bashiva hopefully releasing with skulls would be nice
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>>566856236
Paycheck justification
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>May 14th
Bhashiva faction showcase
>May 21st
Bhashiva DLC trailer at Skull
>Mai 29th
Bhashiva DLC release
Mai 30th: CA begins work on ET DLC
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>>566843951
I honestly couldn't care for more Cathayslop to be honest. There's nothing left to do with the faction. They'd got all their shit except this and monkey stuff. There's lots of factions that haven't seen updates in years. I guess they need to cater to the Chinese for financial reasons but we are scraping the barrel.

So how are tigermen going to be different from any other monstrous infantry apart from the fact they are now Furry coded?
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>>566854214
BFGA 3 and Chaos Gate 2 would be dope
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>>566781026
To be fair, that game was just shit. Warhammer Fantasy had virtually no players or buyers (which is why it was canned) until Total War helped to revitalise it a bit. If someone made an Age of Sigmar game that wasn't trash or MOBA nonsense, it would probably bring people to the setting.

That's assuming the recent Age of Sigmar rumours are not true.
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Are you truly going to pay to play as Boris Todbringer?
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>>566857421
I have bought literally zero warhammer DLCs
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>>566851037
SQVIRE FETCH ME HOPIUM THAT WE'LL ACTUALLY GET A FLC LIKE OLD DAYS
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>>566857215
>There's nothing left to do with the faction.
Based one what ? It's still a brand new faction.
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>>566857421
I already paid not to play as him
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>>566843951
>Tune in for an in-depth look at Bhashiva and the Tiger Warriors. We're joined today by Rich and two Joshes as they explore Bhashiva's faction mechanics and discuss the tweaks made to Cathay.
So no trailer ?
I suppose that means trailer at Skull and release even after.
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So is there going to be a free legendary hero this year or what?
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>>566851037
I hope there's some sort of new WHF game announced, any genere apart from mobile/cardgame
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>>566856269
Their community management is fucking horrible for some years now, they barely post about events, we first discovered show and tell because they answered a fucking reddit post asking for news
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>>566860162
Taoyan confirmed to be released along Bhasiva/8.0 update.
The question is, when ?
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Maybe Skulls news will be End Times focused Thanquol and Chaos side revealed.
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>>566862286
No because we arent getting Thanqoul because no one likes the Skaven except for the ratfag who falseflags as a skinkfag and likes ERPing in this general.
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Do you consider a short victory a real win? I've always had a problem where I start multiple campaigns at once and then eventually forget what I'm doing and quit them, so to counter this I started playing the game by just hitting the random lord button and only playing ONE campaign, and playing it until I either win or lose. I'm kinda bored of Sylvania so I'd like to take my short victory and leave, but I also want to feel like I really won
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>>566862286
Why would it be something else than Bhashiva ?
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>>566862563
Let the anon dream...
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>10 years of SKULLS
>10 years of TWW
Surpise DoW free race shadow drop.
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>>566851037
Is this the biggest Skulls Event so far? With the amount of hyped up games being featured I mean.
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>>566863409
remember the song and dance around the 100th LL
yeah
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Ungrim armys goin well so far, getting buffed up Dlayers are very fun but this is a very reactionary campaign. The only real problem I had is Arbaal the Faggot skipping through Kislev and Astragoths lands to attack mine despite being at war with Katarin and the other Kislev faction still alive up there.
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>>566864349
>remember the song and dance around the 100th LL
nta but no
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>>566862426
The ligger is the one posting gay liggers and rats though.
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>>566862426
Skaven are the most creative faction in the game, I'm not going to hate them just because I want furfags to choke on their own blood
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>>566869025
Least obvious falseflag
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>>566869496
Yeah, he's not very subtle when posting ratporn, everyone knows it's the ligger doing it.
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Why do ratfags never take responsibility for their bad behavior?
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Not one Druchii ...
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>>566869864
I dunno maybe the like 7 fucking years of posting the same ritualpost
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>>566869864
>taking responsibility for the actions of someone else
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>>566870037
Alith Anar has such an utterly busted faction. High Elves are already solid and he gives everyone the Stalk and Underpass stance.
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Idea: Future Total War titles should have different unit stat profiles for singleplayer and multiplayer.
If a unit is buffed or nerfed for multiplayer battles then it shouldn't necessarily receive the same treatment for singleplayer campaigns.



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