Many elves Edition>What is /crpgg/?This general is dedicated to the discussion of computer roleplaying games such as:Arcanum, Baldur's Gate, Disco Elysium, Divinity: Original Sin, Dragon Age, Expeditions, Fallout, Icewind Dale, Jade Empire, Knights of the Old Republic, Mass Effect, Might and Magic, Neverwinter Nights, Pathfinder, Pillars of Eternity, Planescape: Torment, Shadowrun, Solasta, The Age of Decadence, Temple of Elemental Evil, Tyranny, Ultima, Underrail, Vampire: The Masquerade – Bloodlines, Warhammer 40k: Dark Heresy, Rogue Trader, Wasteland, Wizardry, and many others.>Recommendations:https://files.catbox.moe/gx6f4u.pngPrevious: >>566655724>Thread QuestionAre you tired of elves in your crpgs?
>>566779839>TQNo, what a stupid thread question
>>566779839We should kill all elves.
what an awful thread. just terrible. you should feel ashamed OP
Wtf is a tyrant star amyways?
>>566780136Like the star Wormwood from Revelation
So is Aspyce chorda really in dark heresy? It is a prequel or a sequel to rogue trader?
>>566779839Marcille wife
>>566780213It's a sequel, she disappeared but Incendia is convinced that she's not dead
>>566779839this op is not a crpg
>>566780213Yes she is Unknown about timing. In RT she just "disappeared" so maybe that's her backstory for being in RT>She claims to still be the Lord Captain and that Incendia is an upstart usurper>But she doesn't seem to have her warrant anymore
I can't believe they just slapped a humanoid walking animation onto a dragon; it's a shame I didn't get a picture of it.
>>566780425shake that pricks snowglobe until hes sick
>>566780307
>>566781072also not a crpg
>>566781072It has computerized roleplaying to include dialogue choices, character building, differing NPC reactions based on choices and style of dress, and even fade-to-black waifu fucking. It clearly is. In fact, in many ways one might say it's more of a CRPG than certain other darlings around here.
>>566780307neither is the expanse but you all loved the Regina threads
>>566781518At least in that case it was a video game and not anime that anon with a elf fetish goons to
I can't believe I paid $70 to play the beta of Expanse What is wrong with me
>>566781518You know the longer you melt down about it the harder people are going to shitpost about it when there's some new news
>dark heresy beta still isnt out yetBad sign
>>566782240owlcat has fallen
>>566782419owlcat ain't ever rise bruh
human women are made for twink elf cock
>>566783427yes
>>566783427I don't think Millicentilla likes you looking at other human women, Larry.
>>566779839Elves are made for passionate breeding and headpats
Updated.Hire *clap* more *clap* fans *clap*
>>566783724Why does it get more and more unhinged? What's next? Catsup smears?
>>566783956He was editing on the train, lots of jolting and jostling
>>566783724>why do they call it oven when you of in the cold food of out hot eat the food
why is ulbrig gay
>>566784406Because he likes to get fucked in his ass by men
>>566784406Because it's gay to fuck women. The clitoris is a tiny penis, the labia are made of ball sack skin, grool is just precum, and they even have anuses like men. Anyone who fucks women is a faggot.
>>566784406Ulbrig wins sex against men, he literally could not be more straight
I have elf fatigueIf Yrliet wasn't a space elf, 90% of the autism about her would disappear
>>566784406he is literally the union between to men
I kinda like her
all elves are WHORES
So we oft discuss incentives for the evil choices in games. Lots of games may give you evil options, but the roleplaying ends up just being insane, or murderous, or whatever. Giving actual real incentives to be evil for people who don't want to be evil is actually pretty rare, and is something I would like more of.Here, we have a pretty silly choice on the surface. Accept an enemy's surrender, or literally commit a warcrime by murdering surrendering enemies. It appears to be the sort of absurd evil for the sake of it evil choice we don't really care too much for.But consider for a moment the context of Star Wars. Immersing yourself in negative emotions and feeding on harm and suffering inflicted upon others actually makes you stronger. Harnessing intense emotions actually lets you exert more control over the Force in a tangible sense. So what if you actually got stronger from being an evil piece of shit? Would a mechanical benefit incentivize players to finally pick the evil route in games?I actually think the answer is yes, it would, and bg3 is the evidence. How many guides have you read where it starts out with "well, make your stats X, Y, and Z, because you're going to get the hag hair to op them off". Most of them. Go check, the vast majority of guides assume the hag hair as part of it. Yet, obtaining the hag hair involves letting a green hag live, you trade her life for the hair. You are releasing her to claim further victims in the future, when you could have killed her, for selfish gain. Yet thousands of online guides just assume the hag hair, because it has an actual mechanical benefit.It seems lots of people's character's morals are for sale, once a mechanical benefit for being evil shows up. Interesting to think about.
Newfags take shitposting about elves so seriously that it's more annoying than funny now
Rp idea:Paladin that works at the brothel because they are immune to diseases from level 3It's lawful because it is a legal regulated industry
>>566785958
>>566785958It’s a little wordy, could you cut it down a bit?
>>566785958holy shit go back to your general you tranny whale
>>566785958we don't do actual discussion here. either talk about yrliet or cuckoldry. my attention span is fried
>>566786374Who's Yrliet?
>>566785958>But consider for a moment the context of Star Wars. Immersing yourself in negative emotions and feeding on harm and suffering inflicted upon others actually makes you stronger.This is false, and an autistic literalist misread of Sith religion and philosophy.
not gonna read your wall of text gaylord nobody cares kys
great he's going to write paragraphs about his Soi Wars lore now
>>566786005A Paladin girl is basically a tomboy church girl with medieval hygiene. Read: muscular not soft, hairy, sweaty, bathed once a week. Nobody wants to fuck that. If you're going to RP, do it right and put some brain into it.
The posts crying about anyone who puts any effort into posting are extremely low quality and often times more destructive to the thread than his posts ever are. I'd trade ten of you for one of him and the thread would benefit immensely from it, and I don't even like him.
>pass a skill check>get exp>get loot>potentially VERY good gear>build-defining items that can supercharge combat encounters in your favor>else junk that can be sold>fail the skill check>get some form of permanent debuff that nukes all important stats>potentially cripples a party member for the entire day>lose the skill check so no one else can even attempt it>"sorry, I already tried exploding that door with a bomb, no one else can for the rest of eternity!">lose all loot permanentlyhow am i expected to just accept a failed skill check? I didn't fuck it up, the dice did, yet I'm still disproportionately punished for that. this shit is so ass, I can't fucking stand it. why respect skill checks at all when the outcome has such a high chance for complete ruination or missed narrative moments?
>>566786854Yeah you love reading his slop
I like anyone who actually plays games and puts effort into posting about interesting things, so I love the widescreenfag. I don't even know why anyone dislikes him, other than their own general misanthropy.
Its crazy how solasta 2 has mindbroken you so hard that you have had to resort to this of all things.
>>566786723>Nobody wants to fuck that.Speak for yourself
Namefag post your creepy lesbian fanfiction instead
>>566786723>Nobody wants to fuck that.
>>566787013>I don't even know why anyone dislikes himThere was a very solid basis for it once in another thread, but at this point it's just a meme that has taken on a life of it's own and been run into the ground by the usual suspects. Mindless kvetching from the 4chins text messagers designed to make the thread less hospitable to on-topic discussion and more hospital to witless meme fagging.
>iron towers next game is going to be AOD but with lovecraftian magicBased or cringe?
>>566786792nope
I LOVE ELF PUSSY
>>566787060>>566787146Human men can be so disgusting
>>566786854>>566787013>samefagging
>>566785958Thank you for at least trying to spark actual discussion about crpg writing, but I'm afraid this place is genuinely too far gone. This is a shitposting containment thread.
>>566781518No I didn't. The bogged bitch shilling was fucking cringe
>>566787280thank you me
Thank you for the quality effortposts me. We love (You) me. Don't let THEM deter you from your correct ON-TOPIC (because I said so) discussions.
>>566785958This good post that honestly attempts to discuss an actual issue in the genre writing just receiving a bunch of shitposting genuinely made me feel sad. You people are not worth interacting with and even the few good people left you attack them. How did it get this bad?
>>566785958The problem is simply that the evil path is the retard's path. It's written to require the player to be retarded, and just results in there being less game to play. I already have to twist myself into a pretzel to justify siding with Minthara in Baldur's Gate 3, and my reward for doing so is a companion I now could have had anyways, and the loss of several NPCs and their associated quests and items. This pattern is extremely common in RPGs which is why people just avoid it now because they've been trained that game devs are lazy and choices are fake. Mechanical edge wouldn't really help.
>he just won't stop
>[Continue interacting with them] You people are not worth interacting with.
>>566780213The funny thing is, no one can really say.Time travel is possible in setting via warp, as ships sometimes appear out of a warp jump before they left.
>>566787013I dislike widescreenfag because I'm envious of the width of his screen
besides samefagging I think he invites his online friends to defend & reply to him.
Swtor is an okay game and has some fun class quests but all the jedi vs sith shit is the dullest fucking part of the game and that's all this dude ever talks about.
>>566787563>How did it get this bad?Really bad and selective moderation over an extended period of time, which often seems to be directly colluding with shitposters.
>>566787175>lovecraftianmy eyes instantly glazed overbeing inspired by lovecraft means there is a 120% chance you are a pseud and your writing is shit
>your post? low quality>his post? absolute diamonds
>>566787907Very pedestrian opinion. The reality is that Imperial Agent is hugely overrated, and Jedi Knight and Sith Inquisitor are the only good stories in the game. It also becomes increasingly incoherent to play a non-Jedi as you get into the later expansions where a quick draw drug smuggler seems a little out of his depth. Jedi/Sith is the only real way to play.
>>566788128not a crpg
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2bzv1Kl_eG4
>>566788253you always post something but I never get it
>>566787175what is lovecraftian magic? like you chant some gibberish and then die so fish guys can sex your waifu?
>>566788490It just means uninspired tentacle shit
>>566788206It is. It fits the definition better than most commonly accepted CRPGs, that doesn't change just because it has online functionality. So does Baldur's Gate 3.
>>566788542a mmo is not a crpg
>>566787606I think the hag hair is a good example of giving players something actually attractive to see if they become evil for it, and a pretty good number of players fell for it. There are no published numbers on this choice specifically, but just going by general discussion for a few years now there is a good number of players who did it.I think the answer is to write reasonable evil options. Which in real life, selfishness is almost always the root of most evil. You have to actually give people an advantage if they're easier. They get more money, easier interactions, more gear, etc. People are evil in real life for something, more often than not. Not because they're Joker from batman. So videogames that attempt to write realistic scenarios should reflect that.Too many games have the "good" option generally be the best one, or at least equal, where everything turns out fine and everyone holds hands and sings. A crpg where the good, moral options suck to make, give you less money, give you less gear, harder road, etc, would reflect real life better, and it would also give people an actual incentive to be evil. A realistic one.It's a shame we have to scroll past so many blatant outright shitposts just to talk about crpg.>>566787713Don't be. Half my old favorite games don't even support it and I have to switch monitors just to play them which is dumb. I just bought it for fun but it's not worth it.
>>566788631It's an MMOCRPG
>>566788680
[Chaotic Evil] [Bluff] It's a shame I have to deliberately annoy everyone here and cause a very predictable scene every day then play victim aw gee darn
>>566788128Have you considered that the later expansions are shit, though? The whole thing just descends into nonsense and vague star wars pandering after they abandoned the eternal throne stuff a quarter of the way through.
>>566780136A normal star gone bad
>>566788975I have. Nevertheless, there they are, and if you play you get to them eventually. Once you do, smuggler, trooper, bounty hunter, and agent all feel stupid.
>>566786723>muscular not soft, hairy, sweaty, bathed once a week. Bueno….
>>566788418>but I never get it
>>566788975>>566789097not a crpg
>>566788680Making it reasonable to be evil is a good first step, but players have to know they aren't cutting the game in half too. It's the reason people leave characters like Camellia or Astarion alive in the first place even though it makes little sense to do so, because all you get for killing them is less game. Developers treat evil as a failure state because they want to advertise and sell their game as having choice and consequences but they don't want to actually develop it.
>nootice how he gets a real reply after a "shitpost"
>>566789097You could always just not play and write books about garbage
>>566789619I could do an infinite number of things at any given time, that's not useful. Instead I'll play as a Sith Inquisitor because it fits best.
>>566788253I liked the carpenter brut song the other day
>>566789135I never listen to the songs
>step aside the navigator is cumming
>>566789839See: >>566789135
>buttocks postingI know what you are.
>>566785764She's always been my favorite in BG2. And Insect Plague and Iron Skins with fighter thac0 means she is never a poor choice mechanically in the party. Plus she's the best handled of the returning companions in BG3.
>>566790993>Insect PlagueThis mogs casters
>>566785958>Would a mechanical benefit incentivize players to finally pick the evil route in games?Sure, but it would be limited to a narrow expression of evil - the kind that is only interested in personal gain. Genuine evil is not always like that. The evil that preys on the weak and vulnerable isn't interested in personal gain. The evil that is cruel, selfish, and petty isn't primarily interested in another +1 stat. I would argue that Ethel in BG3 is not a great implementation of a moral dilemma, because most players - to say nothing of those that blindly follow guides - are not even aware that letting her live is very obviously morally wrong. Mechanical incentives for evil choices are a start, but they are not enough. Ideally, evil choices should have meaningful trade-offs, and so should good choices. If being "good" runs contrary to pragmatism, then you start to run into real-life moral issues. If saving a thousand refugees means a strain on your kingdom, you might think twice about auto-selecting the good option - even if that nets you neutral or evil points. I typed this post before realizing you said much of the same in >>566788680.>>566786792That post isn't off topic. It is talking about game design in a way that is very much relevant to the topic of this general. Yours is an obvious shitpost and deserving of a report.
I have never seen samefagging this obvious or pathetic before
>>566791461Feel free to scroll past the scary posts with many words. No one is stopping you from talking about CRPGs. This is what you're here for, right?
>>566792002I’ll come back when you’re gone
Bear time
I fucking hate this game so fucking much. All this because i picked up that piece of shit whip from the corpse right?
>>566792256is this good
>"Master Helmsman! Set course for that moon immediately!"
Owlcat should stick to remaking adventure paths and not creating their own original stories. Do you agree or no?
>Really, Shepard?>Probing Uranus.
>>566792387#pranked
>>566792780What original stories?
>>566780136Thats the plot>The Tyrant Star, also known as Komus and the Hereticus Tenebrae, is an uncategorised stellar anomaly found in the Calixis Sector of the Segmentum Obscurus. Komus appears as a black dwarf star whose arrival in the sky of a world is seen as an imminent herald of catastrophe
>>566792850Plot of RT
>>566792387Fun fact, those Spectres used to be worth a shit ton of XPOwlcat nerfed itNO REFUNDS
>>566792387Daeran NOOOO
this isn't fair.. fucking devs..
what am I looking at
>>566792882I liked how sometimes it isn't visible in the sky, but you can catch its reflection in a mirror or in a puddle
>>566780136An unexplained thing. It's a huge deal for the local region but too small scale to be something GW has explained in the wargame at galaxy scale.
>>566793524three wasted acts
>>566792410Yes, wild shape is good. It was also the last prerequisite for Shaper, which I'll start taking next level.
>>566793670>>566780136Yeah and it's meant to be up to the ttrpg DM to decide what he wants to do with it
Reminder gw approves all the scripts, everything about tyrant stars in dark heresy? CANON
My build is canonYours is fanfic
>>566794215Oh they say that about everything
Your canon is fanficMy fanfic is canon
Huh
>>566787606>I already have to twist myself into a pretzel to justify siding with Minthara in Baldur's Gate 3I think this one was pretty easy to justify. You're in a desperate situation with a mindflayer tadpole in your head. Everyone in the Druid grove, druids and tieflings alike, are unable to help you beyond promising to give you a hand only after you solve all of their problems and they have no real guarantee to back those promises up. The only druid that seems to actually be worth a shit is Halsin and you find him imprisoned by a bunch of fucking goblins. And when you do bust him out all he does is say he can't help you but CAN point you in the right direction IF you solve his problems first. Meanwhile he does tell you that the cult the goblins are a part of holds the answers to your problems, the cult is clearly more powerful than him, his druids, and the refugees, you've already got a way to blend in with and fool the cultists thanks to the mindflayer worm in your head, AND Minthara is open to working with you if you raid the grove. Raiding the Grove is already a way easier proposition than defending the Grove because the Cult has already proven to have the superior force and through you would have a man on the inside to catch the defenders completely unaware. If anything I have to tie myself into a pretzel to justify NOT siding with Minthara.
>>566785958I normally tolerate and even like your swtorism here but because you mentioned bg3 all I'll give you is a (you) for at least wanting discussion on dialogue choice design.
>You... you're animal!
>>566793420fuck larian, they don't know good story beats nor how to end things
>>566785958You should play Pillars 1/2. It offers lots of really excellent pragmatic evil. Bleakwalker Paladins in particular support this playstyle, but there are lots of different nuanced takes on it. Of course it also lets you toss Kana Rua into a sacrificial blood pit of Skaen and then in the next game tell his sister (And one of the seven possible companions) you're the reason he never came home.
>>566789992there should've been a harem route>Cassia, I love you but I need an heir>I-I understand.. >Kibbelah is the best choice for this>O-Okay, I will bear your child, it is my duty to do soBAM 2 sex routes
>>566796058it just felt pointlessly cruel for no reason..
>>566796620It's because they concentrated too much on act 1 to lure people inBut the acts 2,3 and 4 were given less attentionSo when it came to tying loose ends, it's all in act 4, no matter how messy it becameThe boat scene after the last battle is evidence of this, so is her off-screen death, so is the magisters and black whatever fighting on an isle they're not even supposed to know about. Maybe there was a well done end for all of it, but it had to make way for all the fixes they had to do
>>566796934oh that makes sense, i guess it was smart considering when i bought the game like a decade ago im pretty sure i just played the first act and dropped it
>Furless One
>>566797364>barkskin
>>566795992>slave is asian for some reason
I'm moving to /vng/It has>more waifus>no combat fillerand best of all>no cuckery
>>566798451all waifufags should
>>566795992I'm're animal!?
so true xisters waifufags should leave so we can talk about our husbandos in peace
>>566797826Fair point.
>>566798451Fuck off, we're full.
>>566795992What happened to the novels?
>>566798635where is the husbando posting?
>>566779839What made you realize how fucking old you were?For me, it's seeing that the modern narrative surrounding Veilguard among normalfags or whatever, even "anti-woke" normalfags, and how they would talk about it.Like I saw a lot of "RPG fan" type people saying how bad and how woke Veilguard is and how much worse it is than Inquisition. Inquisition? These people had NOSTALGIA for Inquisition.I'm old enough that I remember when Dragon Age Origins was universally agreed to be the first and last good Dragon Age game. Dragon Age 2 was an EA market-tested abortion (with hints of what would come later, we had no idea how good we had it when EA corpo market tests and appealing to the dudebro market was our biggest worry)Now there are people nostalgic for Inquisition. Cisquisition?Like holy fuck I'm old, I remember when Inquisition was, demonstrably, clearly, not just considered "woke" as fuck in the worst way, like not only in the "so much fucking gay sex and ugly women" way but in the female stand up comedian tier "my pussy is a barnyard; queefs and farts on you XD" kinds of ways. And also hated for being braindead as fuck from a gameplay perspective.pic somewhat relatedp.s. do you have any mods to make Sera hotter, I'm going to play Inquisition and get a straight romance mod and fuck the "holds up spork" out of this 100% Cara Delevingne expy with my big inquisitor cock.
>>566799291>Now there are people nostalgic for Inquisition.There's no reason to be nostalgic, the game was good. It was MMO-lite but it was good. I played it, I beat it, the companions were good and the quests were pretty fun and the combat was fun too, maps were too big and the MMO aspects tedious but the game was good. There I said it.
>>566799291>Now there are people nostalgic for a good gameYour point being...?
>>566799291You’re just not realizing that you were in a bubble
>>566796620It's an easy way to create drama
>unironic cisquisitionfagsthe absolute state of this general
>>566799291Didn't you make this post before
>le oldman epic science was in a hate-bubble and didn't realize he missed out on good but flawed gamesGrimmy
>>566799291>What made you realize how fucking old you were?About six months ago a student asked me about my all time favourite games and when I told him about Ratchet and Clank 2 on the PS2, he told me he has never seen a PS2 or Ratchet and Clank 2 due to them being "retro"
>>566799603Once you free yourself from ritualistic /v/ spergouts there’s a whole other world out there
Sera being a ugly goblina?Personal attack against me
>>566799797already did, played it twice even, because the first time I just couldn't beat it due to how boring it wasgame is garbage, worse than DA2 even
Consider this, if you need to mod a goblin to look like a 10, then you might as well not date the goblin
>>566799291You are probably 20
>>566799291>What made you realize how fucking old you were?When I realized my little sisters didn't know what winrar was.But speaking of Dragon Age, replaying DA2 and DAI makes you realize how repetitive and uninspired the gameplay is 90% of the time, but I had so much fun playing them for the first time so many years ago. You could never make me hate them.
>>566799905I'd settle for a 7.
Do you have any mods to make Sera less of a dork?Do you have any mods to make Isabela less of a slut?Do you have any mods to make Cassandra less of a tomboy?
>>566799291idk man, i used to like DAO and FO3, but as i experienced the older games, i started disliking them both for how streamlined roleplaying got
>>566800198any mods to make Cassandra more attractive?actually I just checked the nexus, the answer is nothe play really is to make your female player character your waifu and just keep her celibate
>>566799137Different character and didn't want to think out their personality.
>>566800060Them being repetitive doesn't matter because of how fun combat is though, they're action-y.
>>566800437her disgusted sighs already get me rock hard, no mod required
>cassandra... is le ugly actually!Insane post
>>566800841Many think this cause her jaw
>cassandra... is le ugly actually!Yes
>sera... is le ugly actually!guarantee you she wouldn't look at you twice in real life
>guarantee you she wouldn't look at you twice in real lifeThank god
>>566800987>h-her jawerino tho! (she jawmogs me)Insane post
>>566801203who is this handsome fella?
>>566801203It doesn't bother me, thats just what I see fags complain about
>woman is man actually!Insane post
>>566801203Is that a SCAR on her face? No one will marry her now.
>>566800987princesses have strong jaws
>>566801203LITERALLY looks like a man, she was much cuter in DA2
>this woman is le a man!/crpgg/ trans rights
alright guys help me play Dragon Age OriginsWhat are the must have mods? I'm going to play a Mage and do evil blood magic probably and also get me some sick armor and FUUUUCK Morrigan hard. Other than that I'm open-minded.
>>566801478Why are you gay?
>>566801426I've seen this person on pinterest before and I thought it was a man. Learned something new!
>>566801634The mod that restores cut content, that's itAlso the mod that buffs shapeshifter if you're gonna be playing that or want morrigan to use itIt's not worth "experiencing the base game" with that because it's simply bad
crpgg would call mommy Samara a man because of her jawI fucking hate this place
>>566801634DAO has too many must have mods. Just go to nexus, sort by top downloads and go wild. Dain's fixes and 6gb patch is basically mendatory. Plus another fixpack that i dont remember.Also the dialogue&event extention mods.
>>566801634Definitely needs a bugfix mod since half of the fucking talents don't do shit
>can Shapeshift into a Dragon>no option to rip off Octavia’s headFucking Owlcat games
We love Octavia here.
>>566801848Real
>>566801203>>566801478I find her cute just because she's a big dork.
>>566801848>>566801203>is a matronly woman, a mother of like 3, with giant mommy milkers on full display>has a pronounced jaw as older women tend to, she's basically menopausal>has very feminine emotive eyes and lips>is reasonable and measured in attitude and tone, with a kind and gentle manner of speaking, is cold and detached when killing>would almost definitely have longish hair tied in a bun or something if her species had hair>doesn't have a permanent cunty scowl on her squinty eyed face and thin, drawn lips>doesn't speak with a rough slavic accent
>>566802291plus it flips the script, most cutest retard waifus have to be protected by the player, cassandra is the cutest retard waifu who protects you
I will never forgive Bioware for not letting me fuck Samara.
>>566801848This place is very hysterical, a lot of posters are basically male womenDon't take them seriously
>>566801848Feel free to leave
>>566801848what you're doing is called tilting at windmillsp.s. cassandra IS mannish and it's not just because of her jaw
>>566801848See? >>566802539
>>566802613I like it when the stereotypical tomboy has a dorky and girlie hobby that she geeks out over. It's very cute and makes for good teasing ammo during sex to get her flustered.
>>566802345my wife
>>566802345Is it unethical to pursue romance with a mother of 3 who is 1000 years older than you?
>>566803578In terms of evolution an asari dating a human is basically already an 80 year old dating a fetus so other ethical considerations are out by default.
>>566803578oohhh let me in
>>566799242If you insist.
i don't see what's so controversial about calling dai cassandra an uggobioware was complaining about shit like "the male gaze" around the time of its release
>>566804535Inquisition was the most woke triple-A dogshit imaginable back when it came out. If a character in DAI is ugly like Sera or mannish like Cass, or there's some obnoxiously fucking gay shit going on with cringe writing (proto-"Larian bear sex" moments), it's the writers railing against white male gamers and male gaze shit to cater to their only vaguely existent tumblr user fanbase at the time. Cass breaking gender norms by being very mannish is absolutely the intended effect.
>>566803979post where he kisses back
>>566801426what's that pic from?
>>566804535>>566805112holy seethe
>>566805627what's seethe? that's historically accurateInquisition was literally just Veilguard within the purview of its era's overton window. They are the exact same.
>>566782240Warhammer skulls is this month so maybe we'll get a release date. Based on RT beta when should we expect it?>>566780213 I think they said it was happening around the same time? Either way, Chorda isnt dead, she just vanished and Incendia has the warrant. For some reason some anons keep calling her a clone but there's no confirmation of that
>>566805776Veilguard is 10 times worse bro, no the women being ugly is not why Inquisition is bad
>>566805112You schizos should've been bullied harder back then
>>566805838>Veilguard is 10 times worse broLearn to read or learn what the overton window is, niggaDiscourse and the state of things in general is 10x worse than it was in 2014Veilguard reflects that.They also weren't as brave or as enabled to be what they would be back then.It's literally just boiling the frog. Even Mass Effect was infested with its own brand of insidious progressive neo-liberal bullshit.
>>566794215>probably forced Owlcat to give us another admech companion instead of literally anything else >let's us have a pet C'tanI want more xenos companions
>>566806116>Inquisition was literally just Veilguard
>>566806205yes, it was literally just veilguard>within the purview of its era's overton windowlearn to FUCKING READ
Finally doing a Dogmatic run and trying the Officer Arbites since I don't wan to overlap with Solomorne. Still early but it's pretty fun being able to be a tanky frontline officer that can still dish out damage thanks to shotguns being strong on top of being an Officer.
>>566790993She's fine in 2 but me being buddies, or I guess kind of acquaintences would be more accurate, with her husband always deterred me from pursuing her. It helped that I liked Viconia a lot too. I would absolutely smash in 3 though, no hangups there and she looks just as good>Plus she's the best handled of the returning companions in BG3.Not a high bar. I fucking hate all the other cameos
>>566801203>Conventionally attractive strong-jawed woman warrior knight with a big facial scar who won't shut up about her ex to her current loverStrange that it happened twice
>who won't shut up about her ex to her current loverOh no, the incel is still mad about this
>>566806304>They are the exact same.
>>566806698I give Cassandra a pass because her ex just died in at the start of the game and the dude was literally the only bf she ever had in her entire life and she's pushing 40. Valerie has no excuse though. What more she brings him up again later in an attempt to try to shit on your relationship with her.
>>566806458>She's fine in 2 but me being buddies, or I guess kind of acquaintences would be more accurate, with her husband always deterred me from pursuing her.Why?In ye olde days it was preferable for a widow to marry her brother in law because their families were already joined and he's probably similar to her late husband. The logistics and social aspects are actually very preferable to keep things within your family and friend circle. It's why when orphans are made it's best to have their aunts and uncles step in to raise them rather than some random foster parents.
So should I just fucking pirate Dragon Age: Origins?I own DAO: Ultimate Edition on Steam but it doesn't seem to have achievements or whatever and seemingly runs poorly, also is it going to force me to open Origin every time I try to play it? Because if so I WILL just pirate it.
Jaheira is like a unicorn in that her previous partner was a guy in your party BUT somehow her romance is very mature in how it treats her mourning and you don't just swoop in to replace her dead husband. I wonder if players would be capable of accepting that if it were a current year romance.
>>566807456If you're not tech literate enough to figure out how to run an exe to fix it you'll probably struggle with pirating it too
Is nwn fun or will I have a hard time
>>566808018It's not about being fucking tech illiterate, I was just asking if I should start a fucking torrent now or install it legally. Every result I get says the Steam version is partly broken, and not necessarily in a way that is simply fixed by running the 4gb patch or whatever the fuck it is. And you respond like you're getting fucking defensive of this 16 year old game which I fucking own and have owned on Steam.You should be fucking killed you stupid fucking nigger retard. Why are you such a stupid and belligerent fucking nigger retard? Why shouldn't you be fucking killed violently? god you are fucking insufferable, you are so fucking stupid and so fucking gay.
>>566808018"tech literate" btwbig man on campus can run an exehe's so tech literate, he can do other stuff too like use zip files, and even winraryou'd probably have trouble pirating a game if you can't figure out how to fix this game they sell to you pre-brokenactually, if you're even asking about HOW broken it is, you're probably dumber than him, and probably can't use an exe filehow dare you ask?you STUPID stupid stupid stupid fucking NIGGER
Can we stop shouting? Please?
>>566808361This dude doesn't know how to run a patch lmao
>>566808580someone should kill >>566808018's dogif he has a little sister, someone should fucking rape herI'll stop yyelling when that happens
i wish sosiel wasnt gay so he could have sex with cam for me and give her that bc
>>566793045They still are retard you just have to kill all of them and finish the quest to get the expNot to mention that it's completely optional and can be done at any timeYou even need to return to Wintersun later
>>566792387put the whip back if you arent man enough to kill the ghosts
Fuck man, CRPGs need a phone mechanicWe are LITERALLY losing out to VNs!Devs! SHOW not TELL
>>566807456You are a 60 iq vantablack gorilla nigger If breathing air wasn't a reflex you would be dead by now
>>566808268Hard time with what? It's not difficult.
I sure hope these 12 concussions Daveth has won't negatiely effect his joining
Oyakodon potential?
>>566808361>>566808512>>566808730
CAMMMMMMMMMMMMMMEEEERRSSSSSSSS
Gear was so boring in DAO
>>566810310>When the CTE kicks in
Now that the dust has settled, who was in the wrong?
>>566805797>Based on RT beta when should we expect it?iirc the RT beta happened around June, so probably next month if they follow RT's example
One aspect of the Darkspawn I always appreciated was how hyper efficient they were at butchering and shitting up a place. They had less than an hour to redecorate the Tower of Ishal like this but by God they did it and with gusto
>>566811282The guy who got ganked. Didn't he try to run because he had a wife and kid? He could've died in the battle the next day anyway.
Does anyone else find NWN2 super comfy despite all its flaws
>>566813772So many years ago today...
>>566813772MotB has always been pretty well liked and the base campaign is fine. Only real problem with it is that it's fucking ugly.
>>566786005A Dance With Rogues
>>566792387>take whip>an angry ghost appears, telling you to put it back>decline to put it backIf only there was some way you could avoid this
>>566813695Died in battle against an enemy, not getting friendly fired taking nobody else down with him because he didn't want to drink the magic roofie
I've always wondered in historical big battles like this if the guys on the first row of formation just accepted the fact that they were fucked and had a 5% chance of not dying to the first charge
>>566815702That isn't how historical warfare worked.
>>566780213Prequel iirc
Wintersun filtered me fuck this place i'll come back when i get to lvl 13 or something.
>>566816693It's pretty tough, especially if you try to go there first.
>>566780213Aspyce in the dh is not real aspyce, merely another clone that thinks she's the real deal. This has been datamined apparently
>>566813454It's te same with all designated evil factions in every setting ever.>Just took over this camp, ship, town, planet. >First order of business is to redecorate
>>566816693It's always the 2nd to last place I go in Act 2, so level 12/13ish, the Dragon fight is easier than those tigers at the entrance.
>>566811282The guy who thought that being a warden would be all heroics and easy sailing with no strings attached
>>566816693Owlcat love giving you easy access to trap dungeons that'll kick your ass if you go there when you run into them
>priest background has martial arts not because you're some kind of monk but because you used to beat the shit out of other dudes in the seminary
>>566817113That was a hypothesis not based on the game files.t. dataminer who also propagated it
>>566819613NTA, but how does datamining even work?
>>566788253My favorite post each thread. I've found several bangers through you.
>>566821440You go through the big localisation text file of dialogue that comes with the alpha, and ctrl+f looking for interesting things
>>566822526Interesting, wonder why it seems relatively rare for people to do datamining since it seems quite simple
>>566821838>bangersDon't say that unless your birth year starts with 2
Playing through Kingmaker and I actually kind of like Octavia bros...
>>566818941yeah a monkhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dx43uPkFwTYi dont know why monk always means martial arts nowadays rather than some dude copying books all day
>>566824607bro she is literally gaped
>>566824786Because for most of this genre’s history we’ve all understood monk to mean asian martial arts class
>>566822854>relatively rareIt's not for owlkek games. The alpha and beta threads on /v/ are always full of datamining info. Well, except for shitspants, because nobody cared about it
https://www.nexusmods.com/divinityoriginalsin2definitiveedition/mods/468it's up
>make fallout clone >learn nothing from fallout and tie action points to stats so there’s one obvious best build every time
>>566824272I'm a big boy I should be able to use whatever words I want!
>>566825590that's nice but it still doesn't change the ending of the game
I liked the solitaire, wonder if he'll turn up at all in dark heresy
You should romance Aerie, Morrigan, and Kibellah.
>>566828443>Eye inside a trianglecool, he gifted you a farseer
>>566828950But I already had a farseer on my chessboard...
>>566829004you think you can return him for like a gift card or something? maybe Janus needs another farseer?
>>566824607Embrace your cuckold fetish
>>566830485Technically you are the bull in the relationship.
>>566828739
>>566828739>Specifically singles out the one character that actually fits in-universeBeing the first Owlkek character to get that ending really did a number on this general
>open the cells in an illegal prison where everyone was innocent>they start arguing with you and don't want to go with youlmao>>566815702Yeah it's a real thing that historians and psychologists have studied. The answer is usually twofold. The easy answer is there was usually a crown or sack of gold or land grant or other material incentive to the person who got up the siege ladder or across the bridge or whatever first. You either get something awesome for succeeding or it doesn't matter since you're dead. Lots of people sign up for this sort of thing even in the modern era.The second part is thishttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Forlorn_hope There's a lot of less common actors as well, like some people believe in the cause so much that they just do it, and another less common reason is the guys who were sent up first were conscripted and were told they would just be shot if they didn't do it so you might as well take the chance in battle. Though this isn't how most armies work, it is occasionally the case.
>[Threaten the prisoners] Start running. I'm not asking.
this armor protects my virginity
>>566815702>>566830898Some French guys actually did a recent experiment on what happens when two formations clash.https://youtu.be/VerlSW1iPJ8
>>566831736thats cool and all but that can that not be a language of barbarians
>>566830898>>open the cells in an illegal prison where everyone was innocent>>they start arguing with you and don't want to go with you>lmaoDon't worry that's the John Brown experience. Happens to the best of us.
>>566830898>Though this isn't how most armies work, it is occasionally the case.wasnt this only the case with the romans in antiquity >>566815702typically armor kept them alive, and even then most people didnt die when the lines clashed its only when one side panics and routs do people start dying in droves, most battles were essentially just giant games of chicken, especially when horses got involved
double penetrating Valerie with my homie Ekundayo
double penetrating Cam with my homie Trever
>>566833748>>566833803hawt
double penetrating Daeran with my homie Wenduag
>>566824786Maybe Lutheranism wouldn't have spread so fast if every Catholic monk had Improved Unarmed Strike and Crane Style.
double penetrating erm?? with my homie Solomorne
double penetrating Yrliet with my homie Solomorne
>>566830694>you're sharing a woman with another man but you got to her first>you're sharing a woman with another man but you got to her secondThe difference seems academic
Has anyone ever actually romanced Solomorne?
>rogue traders are THE people who have a reputation for fraternising with xenos>owlcat give us two flavours of elder, one who is a poorly written retard>DH has revealed only a handful of companions and they already have more diverse xenosI don't get it
>>566834293>The difference seems academici bet a lot of redditors say this
>>566805197Die Nibelungen
>>566834296I tried and failed because of the cringe dialogue options. I watched a play-through of it and it comes across as >RT trying too hard / sexually harassing him to begin the romance >manipulation / boss-ordered prostitution on his part >something something true love endingit's pretty gross
>>566833283>release prisoner from actual cannibals>he wants to stay on the pole, where it's safe
The problem is Owlcat has only a few good writers and when they aren't working on X DLC or X companion it is very obvious
i like my romances shy, pale, pure and breedable
i like my romances to instantly fall in love with me, disappear, and then show up near the end of the game deadjk i didn't like that you fucks!
>>566835425Grim.
>>566835425That's exactly what women like btw too bad he's black
Ok, funny guy. I remember D:OS2 fondly but I don't know about this.
I wanna smooch her.
>>566834296>>566835425I'd like to believe his boss looked around the arbites, his eyes fell upon Solomorne and somehow he realized this stale toasted bread is the most charismatic out of hundreds maybe thousandssays a lot about the arbites
Regongar's massive green willy...
>>566834758It's the owlcat way.If you review the companions of Kingmaker and Wrath, you realize they would work much better if they flipped games too
>>566838252Not really, no
>>566824607>whore romancei guess i should play kingmaker before wotr?
>>566783724It's not even her real name. You're having sex with a fake name.
>>566837684Owlcat do a shit job doing the Arbites justice. Solomorne's voice acting sucks and even his introduction is botched. Somehow Fatshark make the Arbites look cooler in their 5 second class reveal not to mention their VA's blow Owlcat out of the water. Worst of all and the most unforgiveable thing about him is that he doesn't wear the fucking helmet.
>>566834758>one who is a pooorly written retardwhich one is the poorly written retard?they're both two different flavours of stupid, Yrliet is autistic and Marazhai thinks baiting autistic eldar makes him a genius
>>566838252Not at all, Kingmaker's companions don't fit either game. If Kingmaker wasn't Kingmaker and was just Dungeoneer the Dragoning, the companions would be great and Wrath's companions would be completely out of place, but because it's supposed to be a nationalist volkist kingdom management sim, the fact that Kingmaker has a racially diverse cast greatly detracts from the game. Wrath's characters fit their game because of its alignment conflict themes, Kingmaker's do not because they're a typical group of adventurers.
>>566824951which is a mistakeasia has no place in european medieval high fantasy
>>566839287>but because it's supposed to be a nationalist volkist kingdom management simProjecting your feelings onto the game a bit
Monks as a class reeks of gross eurocentric orientalism :/
>>566839962It's not fucking called Emperormaker or Chairmanmaker, a King is a King of a People and a People are a Volk.
>>566838252>lich gets an urgathoa follower instead of portraits with no content>actual lg instead of diet lg>a naturalist in a new environment and a chronicler instead of lolsorandumb fox>valerie might actually come to see the shelynites being an understandable mirror because war is so terrible or revile them even more instead of just moaning about her face>deva participating in war against demons is a given>harrim being a doomsayer you need to wrangle to control morale versus emdurr forgiving demons and everybody>amiri being the iconic has an ancestral angle to the land versus seelah being a paladin and that's it>instead of slave soldiery being glossed over with nurah, you have two people tied to it to explore the ideai'd keep regill, arueshalae and ulbrig, but i agree otherwise
>>566840185nah, the party tropes are all wrongand you forgot daeran, lann, and wenduag
>>566839981Yeah.There should be a wuxia game where being monk would give you ranks in winemaking, copying scripture and rudiemntary grappling-style wrestling all without any sort of explanation
Literally every companion in WotR is there because of something involving demons with the exception of Nenio, Camellia and Greybor who are there just because, you have to be genuinely retarded to think that they would "fit" Kingmaker>yes yes the gay nigga that wants to find out what happened to his brother after he fucked off to the Worldwound? Yeah he goes to the Stolen Lands for some reason
Open your heart to me
>>566840515Greybor is also there because of demon infighting. Camellia is there to show the player that mortals can be worse than demons.
I hate Nenio and Ember so muchWho writes this kind of dogshit?
Camellia only exists because demons killed the real Horgus Gwerm
>>566840896Play aeon
>>566840992no
>>566840602
>>566840673greybor will kill anyone, anywhere for money (true neutral) political shitshows and beast slaying works in the stolen lands toothere is nothing interesting about lickslips and "we're the real demons man"
>>566841178>there's nothing interestingI agree, but that doesn't change the fact she doesn't belong in Kingmaker.And while Greybor could work in Kingmaker, he has a stronger role in WotR because he represents neutrality as an alignment.
>>566840673>Greybor is also there because of demon infightingHe's just a random assassin, the reason why he's there is because of money, you could change it so he's targeting some random fey in the stolen lands and the result would be the same>Camellia is there to show the player that mortals can be worse than demonsShe is just some random serial killer that's crazy and uses her position of power get away with murder, literally just change the "but I want to close the worldwound" excuse and make up something else and that's that And then there's Nenio who is just some random wandering "scientist" and no Areshkagal has nothing to do with the Worldwound
>>566841178>greybor will kill anyone, anywhere for money (true neutral)Owlkek writing in a nutshell
>>566840461How would a nerd that occasionally makes beer translate into a class
>>566841621>He's just a random assassin, the reason why he's there is because of money, you could change it so he's targeting some random fey in the stolen lands and the result would be the sameAnd while Greybor could work in Kingmaker, he has a stronger role in WotR because he represents neutrality.There's no thematic reason to have Camellia in Kingmaker whatsoever, it just moves an already shit character into a game where she doesn't even have a purpose.Nobody is disputing that Nenio is nothing.
>>566840461>>566841808>grapple based hand to hand >scroll scribing, maybe you can cast touch spells while you've grappled an enemy>winemaking for buffs
we love cam here
Nenio?Based and 4chan.
I'm gonna look up some r34 of Nenio... in her human disguise ofc...
>>566842357This, here in the Cuck Roleplaying Games General we love Cam
>>566842357
cam doesn't have fat tits so no, I don't love her
How many people are in your crpg party at the moment?I have just under 40 at the moment.
>>566842886we love fat brown tits here
>>566842886they look pretty big to me
minthara was coded, you lost
love Neniolove Camsimple as
>>566841808Skill monkey and buffer
>>566843152based
>kill the queen in Vescavor Canyon>go underground and get the wand of Zacharius>remember that there's a bunch of locust demons and a Retriever waiting in the other tunnel branchI don't want to fight those fucks, they're so annoyingIs there any reason I shouldn't skip this and come back after Drezen, when I'm overleveled? Was there some critical loot that I'm gonna need? I remember there was a unique dagger, but not if it was any good.
>>566843152We're thinking based.
>>566843560You can't come back to the canyon.
>>566843367What the fuck was his problem anyway?
>>566843626NTA, but you can though?I remember getting Terendelev's scale from there in Act 3
>>566843626Fuck, seriously?What would happen if someone just missed the underground entrance? Are you permanently locked out from Lich and Dragon paths?
>>566843641based bbc queen
>>566843641I love the NTR smile.
>>566843560What's wrong anon don't you like gibber and 30 damage a round aoes? >>566843626You 100% can because I forgot to get the claw on my Azata run and went back at the end of Act 3.
>>566843019looks better than I remember
>>566843740>>566843748>>566843891well that's strange I remember it wouldn't give me the option to re-enter the zone, but maybe that was in act 2
>>566843560>>566843748you have to learn how to fight derakni anyway, may as well do it now
>>566843748idk about dragon but if you don't get zacharius wand before lost chapel, you quite literally cannot go lich, because his secret hideout doesn't open if you don't have the wand
>>566843996Characters, cutscenes, and environments have gradually had improved textures over time, and within the next year or two they're also upgrading to directX12 to allow for more integrations with newer technology.It's nice, but it also creates a funny situation where the old player character models from 2013 stand next to the new characters/environments that have new textures and it looks funny.
I kissed your waifu. On the lips!
>>566844637Do you know if anything happens if you go to Drezen first, and go back to retrieve the wand and try to talk to Zacharius afterwards? Does the door just stay sealed forever, if you don't open it the first time you're there? What if you do open the door but don't talk to Zacharius until after Drezen? You're obviously locked away from the Lich path, if you already picked a different one, but they could have added some special dialogue where Zacharius calls you a bitch and attacks.
>>566845292Lol, this anon is gay, lmao
>>566785958Being moral often requires sacrifice, and crpgs often ignore that and often let players "have their cake and eat it too."Being good often costs you nothing, and gains you everything. Change that and people will make different choices.
>>566845403I know for a fact that because I didn't have the wand in my inventory (it was in my stash) when I did Lost Chapel on my first playthrough, I went back there after Drezen and nothing happened. At that point, you have already selected your mythic. Zacharius only shows up again if you go Legend, which I did in the end.
>>566845403>What if you do open the door but don't talk to Zacharius until after Drezen?That I don't know.
calm down there Ravor there's no reason for your fucking profanity
>>566846594Ravor needed more screentime.
Owlcat's romance blogpost might have seemed out of the blue until you realize it was apparently in response to them becoming known as the cuckold developers in different online circlesEven the ones that don't call them that or think 'kink-shaming' is bad use euphemisms like "non-conventional romance dynamics"
>>566847905>in different online circlesthis shithole and rpgcodex? I don't think they care
>>566817302It's fairly easy to beat it at level 11 if you know what you are doing
For a race that lives underground the dwarves had a good sense of overworld aesthetic
The Pillars 2 SSS DLC has been like 60% scripted events.I don't really mind
>>566845230>>566843019>>566830898
note to self: flamers do not work on eldar of either variety. they just dodge
>>566849632You just need a bigger flamer
Kind of crazy how easy Aurora is these days compared to when the game first came out. That sniper camping in the corner of the map is way more annoying to deal with.
>>566849983>That sniper camping in the corner of the map is way more annoying to deal with.Always has been
>>566849914no man, I used the heavy flamer to target 8 kabal warriors or so. they ALL dodged with 6% hit chance, which I thought was just the game fucking with me. The only way to avoid it would've been to use killzone strat with them on a backlineThen next chance I got I swapped argenta to her auto crit bolt pistol and killed all of them in sequence instead.
>>566835990HEY I was just messing around the cannibals
Dimalchio... had a hard life.
>>566850793arue did this to him
>>566849253Why is she so ugly
>>566851168They didn't want people to do the evil path
Looks like we're gonna get some more Dark Heresy info either next week or the week after that depending on which day they'll be showcased
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g9Xmj2x5V8AIt's up
>>566851421I wouldn't have done it even if she was hot. The evil path is downright retarded
Fereldan's old castles are very atmospheric
>>566851592>>566851615AIEEEE can't wait
>>566851669Explorations was the only genuinely good thing about that game
