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Welcome to Sonic the Hedgehog General! Here we discuss all things Sonic!

/sthg/ #9317 - Cream's Dad Edition

==NEWS==
>Sonic the Hedgehog's 35th anniversary
https://www.sega.com/sonic-the-hedgehog?tab=35th-anniversary
>Sonic the Hedgehog 4 to release on March 19, 2027
https://x.com/SonicMovie

==Comic Release Dates==
DC x Sonic the Hedgehog: Metal Legion #2 - 03 June 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #87 - 17 June 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog: 35th Anniversary Special - 08 July 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog x Godzilla #1 - 15 July 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #88 - 22 July 2026
Sonic the Hedgehog #89 - 05 August 2026

==GENERAL INTEREST LINKS==
https://rentry.org/sthglinks
>Milestone pastebin:
https://pastebin.com/LJCfZhY4
>Sonic Game/Mod Recommendation Spreadsheet:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#sonic-gamemod-recommendation-spreadsheet
>Perfect System Collection:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#perfect-system-collection
>Sonic comic scans:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#comics
>Sonic shows:
https://rentry.org/sthglinks#shows
>SAGE
https://sagexpo.org/
>SHC
https://shc.zone/
>#10000 Project
https://pastebin.com/Fb8Bt4r
>/sthg/ booru:
https://sthg.booru.org/
>/sthg/ CyTube:
https://cytube/r/sthg
>/sthg/ Pixel World:
https://ourworldofpixels.com/sthg

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Douge
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Krack won.
BonsoirDude won.
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>>566849128
July 18th, 2024
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>Satam and Archie? you should let go of the past
>anyways here's more nu-classic slop
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Tails!
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>>566849205
Any loves Sonic. Surge hates Sonic.
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Human men
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>>566849248
The two piss off the same group of people for different reasons, but it's fine, I wish they would stop fighting.
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You're all mentally handicapped, from first to last.
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>>566849357
Sonic Team never put out SatAM and Archie
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>>566849357
You never know where Penders' bullshit ends and Sega's own aversion begins.
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>>566849431
Ooh oh me! I’m a human man! Pick me!
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>>566849357
It's the core of the series
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Surgamy!
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Miles "Tails" Prower!
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>>566849248
I won too
Everyone won
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https://youtu.be/xHJW-LPa7lk
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>>566849458
And you're racist
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>>566849590
Yeah!

Btw I found another female artist. Though she hasn't posted in two years sadly
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>>566849248
Little known fact, it's actually Jiren who won.
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>>566849815
Oh we had some of her art already. Looks great. I didn't where to find more
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>>566849590
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1kQqzi3V4Q
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>>566849987
Yeah I recognized her but didn't know her username either
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Holy fuck someone kill these pedofaggotspammers
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Tails!
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>>566849310
Yo are you Elias greentext anon from the 2024?
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>>566850101
So cute!
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Hey Losers, it is I, Shadow the Hedgehog, the ULTIMATE LIFEFORM with an important announcement

I HATE NIGGERS and Trans ""People""
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>>566849431
BEAT ME UP HOOOOOONNNNNNEEEEEEYYYYYY
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>>566850240
Not the anon who posted that but I’m here
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>>566849574
I was leaning on that but this is also a fight Surge is going to win so I feel like it can't be over something TOO nasty (since the entire point of the story is to lead to Amy being defeated by a painful knee to her..."frontal pelvic region" - I need a character not afraid to fight dirty and then be smug about it and Surge was the most apt in the franchise). The idea that I came up with initially was Surge harassing some Chao but I couldn't figure out for what.
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>>566850348
Yes
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>>566850534
Amazing outfits
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>>566849776
I am racist but at least i have standards
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>>566850348
The cutest.
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>>566850414
Yo what's good man, haven't seen you in like 2years
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>>566850804
what if krack redrew it
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>>566850857
Just because I don’t post greentexts doesn’t mean I’m not here
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>>566850804
the inexperienced should always top the grumpy old one
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Creature
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The reason why Kit isn’t as popular as Surge is because they don’t know the fundamentals of writing a good story with compelling characters.
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>>566850414
>>566850857
faggots begone
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>>566850804
>19 yo
same age as me and yet I don't look half as good as silver does, it's over.
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What is the Sonic fandoms obsession of trying to recreate the characters? Do you really like the characters if you change everything about them for your own art? Isn't the the whole point of the ship of theseus debate? I see all these redesigns of characters and people complaining about plots and writing and doing their own thing, but doesn't that take away from liking the franchise?
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^-^
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>>566851315
I agree but ultimately I believe that people should draw whatever they want even ooc stuff. Also complaining about plots isn't a bad thing

>>566851360
:D
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>>566851378
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>>566850978
Not him but I liked them.
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>>566851315
because SONIC SUUUUUUUUCKS
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>>566851574
Why not just create something completely original? I think making an entirely original OC is better than changing Sonic or Amy's quilts or giving Tails weird black markings but saying they're still the same character.
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>>566852027
I believe artists should be allowed to stylize things even if it looks unappealing. Not everything needs to be perfectly on model
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>>566851574
>Also complaining about plots isn't a bad thing
I think you're right overall, but this is more contextual, I think anon's point was that if you're a fan of something then you should have appreciation for it without the need to include some complaints or criticism at all costs. Like sometimes I just want to say I like something and certain people just can't stand that. Some don't even do anything but complain and then if you just say you like something without expressing some form of criticism (or in the worst cases even if you are) they start attacking you for "ruining the games", saying stupid shit like "you bootlickers will accept anything!" when all I said is that I like a story or something. I hate this attitude that you shouldn't allow yourself to enjoy things because you should always be "demanding better" or else it's your fault for this thing or that thing that another person doesn't like. If anything, I think appreciation for the things that you do like should come first, and complaints second, if you consider yourself a fan
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>>566851730
I mean if anyone has any requests I like I could do one or two today. Any topic
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>>566852487
Yeah that makes sense. However Sonic is a series with too many different branches and directions so you will inevitably see people complain about anything
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>causally talking
>suddenly Eggman with his fedora walks in
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>>566850978
Yea I like them too, you gonna make one soon?
>>566851730
It seems like there's more than one Eliasfags here, huh? I wonder what happened to the Elias drawfag from the whiteboard
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I don't even like sonic, but /sthg/ got me trapped here.
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>>566850431
Leave Amy alone
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>>566852783
I don't mind complaints themselves, I just think you should have a decent understanding of what you're even looking at before you start complaining. Complaining shouldn't be default attitude when seeing a game you haven't played, but a lot of Sonic fans see it as their duty to blindly criticize even newly announced games in tiny details that they can't possibly know anything about

>>566852958
You're free to go somewhere else
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>>566849158
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>>566852212
Well you're wrong. If you CHANGE the way the characters look or act in your art, then it's not the same character. If you draw a purple hedgehog wearing a green shirt and orange boots and a scar over his eyes and say "This is Sonic the Hedgehog" then you're lying.
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>>566852958
Aye nice titties bitch!
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>>566852950
See >>566852762
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>>566852212
>Pretending to be philosophical
>literally posts Tails goonshit
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>>566853174
That depends on how you contextualize it, it could be a transformation
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>>566853092
Yeah disliking something without even experiencing it doesn't make sense. Though you can still be critical of how it looks, I mean that's what everyone does when we see something and decide to pass on it. You can never really know if something is good or not but you can have expectations
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>>566853092
>You're free to go somewhere else
I am not free. I was never free. It is never up to me the choices i got.
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>>566853174
I don't think he meant it in that way.
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>>566853174
Are you retarded or just plain autistic?
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>>566853321
Where am I pretending to be philosophical? I'm just talking normally. I posted that because the artist heavily stylizes the characters

>>566853174
If you can recognize it as Sonic then that's what it is even if it super different. Ugly movie Sonic was still Sonic even if it looked disgusting. Like I could apply the same logic to modern Sonic.
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>>566853350
Yes you can. Set up some kind of system/program/plugin to block your access to this general. Multiple methods, even. Obviously you'll know how to remove it, but make it take effort. Put in the effort to block the general, it will be a one time setup to block access, and then a minutes-long procedure whenever you feel the urge to come here. Right now you have instant access, so make it annoying instead. You'll be too lazy to come here and will end up doing something else instead
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Cream doesn't have a dad because vanilla is a lesbian.
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Closing my eyes. Imagining the platonic form of Sonic. A gentle breeze passes.
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>>566851315
Its because this new generation is creatively bankrupt. Back in thr day, people would make actual OCs, even if a lot of em were recolored from existing material.

Part of it a think is that we have made being a Sonic fan about complaining about the series and talking about how yo fix it.
Part of it is that posting things involving existing characters will get you more clicks and attention.
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>>566853839
So they Avatar 3'd it?
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Look at all the mad in this thread lol
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>>566854037
When two girls love each other very much, they rub their lovely pink lips together up and down :3 a clit grows on one girl and she puts it in the other and fills her with girl love and thats how babies are made
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It's just a cartoon for children, you are lamenting about a cartoon for children.

Which is true, just because it's for children it doesn't justify the lack of quality or separation from the adult world every child has to deal with and will inevitably get into. But still, it's a children cartoon.

If you want to wage war against sonic, you're far more effective to wage war against everything, because sonic just follows and never leads.
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>>566854135
Delightful.
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>>566854135
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>>566853865
>Part of it a think is that we have made being a Sonic fan about complaining about the series and talking about how yo fix it.
Yes, good way to put it. And it's stupid and wrong. A fan LIKES something, if you only complain thinking you can do better than the actual material even before you know anything about it and have no understanding or humility whatsoever towards the source material then you're not a fan and you shouldn't be in the community, you should go make your own series from scratch and show everyone how much better you are
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>>566853267
Super hot Elias & Human man vanilla gay sex?
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>>566852958
Oh hi blossomfag
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>>566854151
Sonic isn't for kids. Mario Galaxy2 also copied Sonic Colors
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>>566854135
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Sonic would want me to raise birthrates.
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>>566854135
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Tails ^-^

>>566854621
>Sonic isn't for kids.
Yes it is

>Mario Galaxy2 also copied Sonic Colors
How
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Shut up, i've got no free will.
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>>566852092
>The Knuckles rival
>The Shadow rival
The rival's rivals
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>>566854770
Sonic is for a more mature audience. Mario is just "get msuhroom get big save retarded princess who can't defend herself"
The Yoshi speed was copied from the speed wisp
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>>566852762
Here's mine:
Elias selling nuts on his stall when he sees someone familiar running past him. He suddenly has a flashback to the world that doesn't exist.
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>>566854135
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>>566854718
Christ also want you to raise birthrates and help those in need, but nobody ever listens. A society full of excess and vices, talking about solidarity and love, how stupid it is? And yet we live in one.

Always talking about sex, but having none.
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Sonic is for kids the same way Lego Ninjago is for kids, he doesn't mean Disney-level dogshit
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>>566849229
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>>566854904
Sonic is for kids the same way Mario is for kids. If anything adults like Mario more since it has more universal appeal. Normies don't care about Sonic stories and often find them cringe

And Mario Galaxy 2 came out before Colors
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>>566855208
but I hate the poor
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>>566855367
Of course.
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>>566849229
>>566855310
Cute N Canon!
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>>566855335
And the only reason normies don't like Sonic stories is because faggots tell them they're cringed. Ton of people love the movies. I know a ton of people would like the games. There's just a legion of turbofaggots who hate Sonic and the fans and want them to suffer for committing the crime of being autistic by themselves.
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I read issue 69-75 and I liked it a lot. Why aren't every arc like this? Every character got a moment to shine.
Why does Evan suddenly feels like shoehorning Mimic's final fight in one single chapter out of nowhere, or that introducing a random new troon flying squirrel and rushing the arc in 3 chapters is a good idea?
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>sonic is mature
Here we go, he's starting again...
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>>566855208
>Always talking about sex, but having none.
Look, man, if you can find a way to manifest Amy I'll start having the sex immediately.
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>>566854904
Sonic games have more of a focus on creating an immersive wold with an engaging story, background worldbuilding details, and charming and memorable characters with a believable personality. Mario games rarely focus on things like these (funny that you bring up Galaxy when those are some rare instances where Mario does these things too). Games like this aren't for a mature audience, they're still for kids, it's just a different appeal. Kids deserve engaging fictional worlds too if that's what they like and Sonic is great at that. Some people don't care about that at all and prefer Mario's typical simplistic approach with random world elements thrown around with little thought and a higher focus on the gameplay alone, and that's perfectly fine too

>The Yoshi speed was copied from the speed wisp
That's a stretch
Galaxy and Colors aren't even that similar, besides maybe that scene with the Wisps at the end
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>>566855580
Or maybe Sonic doesn't have the universal appeal you think it has and it's attempts at storytelling are indeed seen as cringe worthy by those that aren't emotionally invested in the series

Not every bad perception this series gets is a result of le evil plot against Sonikku
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Season 2 dlc wave just got confirmed.
We actually fucking won. I can't wait to play as fully voiced Vanilla.
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>>566854135
Was the :3 necessary
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>>566855691
>ushing the arc in 3 chapters is a good idea?
This is a conflicting one for me, because I vastly prefer the 4-chapter mini arcs similar to Archie, primarily because IDW's longer arcs feel like a chore to get through, with bad writing and the constant delays.
3 is too short though.
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>>566855925
>voiced DLC
Anon...
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>>566852762
Elias pampering his favorite human Soldier
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>>566855860
I wish more people had your mindset.

>>566855691
They (the higherups) wanted shorter stories, so now it's 3 issues per arc, each standalone but connected to the larger plot.
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>>566855860
>Not every bad perception this series gets is a result of le evil plot against Sonikku
I agree, but there unironically was a plot against Sonic for a good while, especially online. Not everything can be blamed on it of course, but let's not pretend it didn't happen
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>>566855698
Ah.... ah.... Tom.. You're so sexy...
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>>566855860
>>566856439
Also there's a difference between simply disliking something and mocking people for liking it and insisting that they shouldn't, if it's not for them they should ignore it and focus on something else. The attitude from Sonic haters in the 2000s and the 2010s wasn't like that at all, so it's understandable that some people say things like >>566855580
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>>566856778
Blaze...
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>>566856526
While there was a Sonic hate train going I don't see it as an organized effort to discredit the series. It was largely a reactionary thing from 06 and got worse with Unleashed adding the Werehog

>>566856439
:D
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>>566856439
>They (the higherups) wanted shorter stories
it's not like 6 chapters is long to begin with. Why do they think 6 months worth of waiting to get the full story is going to increase sales over 3 months?
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What's the point of becoming a drawing artist when aiming for sculpting seems to be much more versatile?
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I would prefer a full story every 3 months than shitty delayed monthly comics desu
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>>566854553
I would, but I don’t really like writing full on sex. Sorry. I know I said I’d do any topic, but I meant more Sonic themed in general.

>>566854975
Lucky you I remembered the IDW panel halfway through writing, it would’ve been completely different.

>Elias sat at his stall at the farmers market
>The sign read “Try my Hot Nuts”
>Hot nuts, salty nuts, sweet nuts, he had them all
>After fixing a display of nut spread, he heard commotion coming from all around him
>A blue hedgehog came speeding on by shouting something he couldn’t hear
>Wait
>He looked familiar
>Visions flooded Elias’ head
>Him, the blue hedgehog, and a bunch of other people he hadn’t ever met
>His father was king?
>And he took over?
>No way this was real, but it was so vivid
>A name suddenly struck him
>“Hey, isn’t that Sonic?” Elias asked anyone in earshot
>The commotion died down as quickly as it started
>All he could do was stand in silence for a moment until someone came to his stall
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>>566857283
it does?
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>>566857283
do both
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>>566857283
Do you mean 3D sculpting/modeling?
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>>566856813
>>566855580
ORRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRrrrr, hear me out, no, hear me, people don't like Sonic stories because they are bad for the most part of it! Heroes, Shadow, 06, Lost World!

It's not called dark age for nothing, nu-uh, aksually it's because it's kino!
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>>566857463
Yes, sculpting skills in general.
>>566857351
>can sell your own creations as unique pieces
>can easily transfer skills as 3D artist and do virtual models
>not as bothered by AI as the 2D artists because companies can't steal models if they are not scanned in 3D
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>>566856948
Who said anything about it being organized? It doesn't need to be organized to be stupid and bad. Hate bandwagons like this aren't exclusive to Sonic, sometimes some things are appealing to a certain audience and not to another, and the audience that it appeals to essentially becomes a target of bullying from ignorant, uninformed, mindless haters who never engaged with the media in the first place. Another context I've seen it happen is with musicians that appeal to teenage girls, who basically get harassed by the boys. It's not coordinated, but it's still stupid regardless, and something that they should grow out of. And no, it already existed before then, and continued to exist well after Sonic Team tried pandering to those people. Please don't defend that behavior

>>566857490
And now with this post all nuance and honesty is thrown out of the window, great. "They are bad" is a matter of opinion and perspective, not a universal truth that can be measured, the enjoyment of media is subjective. "Dark age" and "Meta era" and all that other shit is retarded community terms that basically amount to empty insults. This post isn't saying anything meaningful
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>>566857283
check what's Paragone
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we just had Frontiers and movie 3 and Shadow Generations. Why are you whining about Sonic not being mature?
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>>566858012
I'm not trying to defend this behavior I'm just saying that there were reasons why the hate bandwagon began, mostly because Sonic's reputation had been declining since the end of the Dreamcast with poorly received videogames. And something like 06 wasn't just bad but a complete disaster in all fronts so it just opened the floodgates. I'm contextualizing things not defending them
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>>566857463
metal Sonic being controlled by Not Starline and Soleil could have been introduced in the same arc, keep the mistery of Soleil's double personality a little longer, and let Belle and Sage a little time to breathe before they decided to work together. Nothing feels genuine the way they are doing it right now
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>>566858571
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I want to feel Shadow inside of me.
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>>566858727
Shut the fuck up already, everyone felt shadow the other way around. He felt an entire city.
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>>566857331
Thank you.
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>>566858506
It seems to me that you were saying they were justified to behave that way, or that it was reasonable. Or at the very least acting like that type of behavior doesn't affect how fans or potential fans behave in response. It objectively created a worse environment and caused people to stay away from, or be bitter towards, things they otherwise would have enjoyed. I don't agree with that anon from earlier, but this part >>566855580
>I know a ton of people would like the games. There's just a legion of turbofaggots who hate Sonic and the fans and want them to suffer for committing the crime of being autistic by themselves.
is (or was) 100% true and both the Sonic community and the Sonic games themselves have suffered as a consequence of it
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>>566859048
I'm still salty that GUN was just nowhere to be found during all this.
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>>566859217
we are still suffering the consequences of Forces. When will that game stop hunting us?
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>>566859216
All I'm saying is that if Sega had maintained a level of quality then the backslash wouldn't have happened. Those things don't emerge in a vacuum.
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>>566857283
This does feel like comparing apples and oranges, but both are useful artforms which suit different mediums better, both skillsets are needed equally as much.
Although you manage to sculpt every panel for a comic monthly then I'll take my hat off to you
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>>566852762
Everyday Life With Mobian Guys
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Whisper the Wolf
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>>566859841
Don't you ever get bored? I knew you never actually left but you're not even pretending anymore. Why don't you go beat or fuck your kids or whatever you're into these days and leave us alone?
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>>566859947
Cute 'n based.
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>>566859592
And by low quality we're of course talking about collision glitches that were common in late 90s and early 2000s 3D games in general. Only the game with the extremely troubled development cycle was a serious outlier, and yet this was still happening both before and after it. Unleashed onward Sonic Team became good at handling collisions and Unleashed still got hated because of... the Werehog? Or is that low quality as well? Most of this was a matter of preference rather than anything else. And even in the case of things like glitches, which can actually be objectively measured, people should still be allowed to have fun with the games if they like them. We don't need some authority claiming what should be enjoyable or not, if it's not for them they need to go do something else
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>>566849431
That's me!
>>566850375
>plaps you
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06 plays like ass
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>>566859947
This was made by a furry.
>>566860437
This was not.
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>>566860948
out of anything, that's the thing I hate the most about it
it just does NOT handle well at all...
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>>566859662
I meant economic wise.
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>>566861397
Sonurge is so fucking hot....
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>>566860948
Depends on the character and upgrades. Some characters are just awful, but I like some. Still not the best controlling game in the series at all, but after getting used to it some characters can be very fun, thanks to the well designed stages. Particularly Sonic with the gems. Blaze's movement flows the nicest of any character, so in that regard alone I think she's the best, but her moveset and level design are very limited. Maybe Blaze movement (including her version of the Homing Attack) plus Sonic's upgrades (Bounce and gems) would have been the best character to play as. I like Sonic as he is well enough though

>>566861014
The thing I dislike the most are the town missions. Most of them are extremely bland and boring. The controls aren't great, but I find the tight level design makes up for them. A boring town with boring objectives could be okay with fun movement to make up for it. Those missions don't have either, so I find that to be the worst part of the game
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My egyptian wife.
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>>566861397
Surgeanon was right, it does look like ovaries breaking
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>>566861687
Yeahhh... i agree with the level design, really good stuff held back by the movement
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>>566861397
>>566861752
I feel bad for anyone who actually likes this character. You’re basically watching someone try really hard to kill someone which results in a heart attack.
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>>566862203
Yes yes of course, let's make Joe Musashi pansexual while we're at it.
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>>566862203
Ian somewhere punching air
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>>566862135
You hate canon Surge.
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>>566860983
How 'bout picrel?
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>>566861687
Nah the movement is sloppy. Overly smooth. Fucked acceleration curves for contniuous movement and instant velocity where it shouldn't be.
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>>566852762
Have you ever drawn?
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>>566862328
I hate the IDW canon in general
It even ruins the comic characters that would be cool under better writers
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my sonic spin off that is written like south park and plays like devil may cry...
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>>566862447
>Nah the movement is sloppy.
I feel like you didn't read my post if you open it like this.
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>>566861726
Fine taste.
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>>566862737
I did. "flow" means sloppy.
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>>566859216
At the end of the day, the Sega does what nintendon't stuff was a huge part of it. Sonic became a heel that a lot of people were hoping for the downfall of.
Add the divisive brand identity branches wanting to undermine eachother within the fandom as is and the advent of cringe culture and Sonic just kinda became the perfect target.
There are a lot of things about the series that gets complained about or made out to be a problem when no one else cares in other series or instances.

That said, there is just part of being a Sonic fan that is being a passionate autist (in an endearing way) and that's just gonna turn off some normies no matter what.
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Best boy. Best girl. Best everything!
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>>566862203
That didn't work for Crash Bandicoot
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>>566862615
You don't like Surge, got it.
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>>566862624
May I see it?
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>>566862442
What even is this shit lmao
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>>566855925
B-but anon told me CrossWorlds failed... He PROMISED!
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She deserves better
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>>566863097
Christ, are you this insufferable irl?
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>>566863097
You hate Sonic. Kiturge mogs Sonurge.
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>>566862851
So you're talking about Blaze? I think she has the best movement in the game. I don't know what you were trying to say about acceleration or whatever, I just know it feels nicer to move around. Still doesn't come close to being as fun as SA1 and especially SA2, and I don't think she's even the best character in the game because, despite the better movement compared to other characters, her moveset is limited and her level design is bland. It's alright if you disagree about her movement being the best in the game. Although in that case I would wonder which characters you think are superior

>>566862881
Yeah I agree. I think you're right. And I don't mind if normies don't like Sonic, that's perfectly fine. Not everything is for everyone. I just want them to shut up about it if they have nothing worthwhile to say. Or I should say wanted, I luckily don't see that type of behavior anywhere near as much in recent years, be it Sonic or otherwise. It was obnoxious in the 2010s
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>>566862135
>I feel bad for anyone who actually likes this character.
It's okay, I just ignore basically everything after their fight. Their attempts to water down Surge into a friendly rival and sweep her backstory under a rug are pathetic and I simply dismiss her "REDEEM" arc as non canon.
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>>566858012
>And now with this post all nuance and honesty is thrown out of the window, great.
There wasn't a single nuance in ever with you imagining boogeymans of this legion you talk about. You talk like SEGA is your friend.

People hated 06 and other shit because they were bad. SEGA is a shitty company that unequivocally hates Sonic more than anyone else. Simple as, no amount of conjuring and schizo revisionism will ever convince anyone.

> "Dark age" and "Meta era" and all that other shit is retarded community terms that basically amount to empty insults.
They are terms to refer extremes of basically shovelware Sonic, overly dark edgy shit or poisoned 6 layer ironic garbage, zoomie.

>This post isn't saying anything meaningful
Pot calling kettle black.
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>>566863238
I like her cuz she looks like Miss Kubelik.
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not a footfag but nicole's fat feet are visually appealing to me, reminds of the one bimbo bubsy oc
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>>566863238
I'd marry and love her real good.
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>>566863427
>claims to like Surge
>hates canon Surge's writing
Not a real fan
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>>566857490
The average person doesnt have the literary skill nor even the care to analyze the stories of these games and point out all their problems, let alone when they are playing them. At thr end of the day, what matters is them being fun, engaging and enhancing the experience of playing the game.

Games like Shad05 and 06 have the problem of making them complicated without pay off, or just being boring and dull most of the time.

Its why fans can talk about them and show the good in them because there is substance there. But there is more to a story being likable than just the writing having good substance.

As fans, we have investment enough that we crave this substance even in places where it is a drag for other people.
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This is exactly what will happen with Sonamy
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>>566863843
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>>566864237
>pic
An emotional tourist?
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>>566863708
SEGA is a company composed of several people with different perspectives. No one at SEGA is my friend, I have no clue what gave you that retarded idea. People disliking Sonic isn't a boogeyman, Sonic haters exist, and that is fine, normal, acceptable. People acting immature isn't a boogeyman either, I'm talking to one (You) right now

>>566864136
There is nothing wrong with any of that. If someone doesn't like something or doesn't care to engage with it, they can go do something else, and those of us who do can have fun enjoying the things we like. Behaving like this >>566857490 achieves nothing
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>>566855925
uhmn, what is this from?
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>>566864252
I am thinking of panels in archie where they really draw her with fat fucking feet, i think they are cute. this is the first time I seen fanart of her feet, while not as impactful, is still cute to me
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>>566864252
imagine how it would cure the back pain
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