ISU-152 Event EditionEnlisted is the best squad-based World War II FPS currently, where you lead your squads of AI to their deaths, over and over. Active Matter discussion also welcome.>Official Siteshttps://enlisted.net/https://activematter.game/>Roadmaphttps://enlisted.net/en/news/show/764-our-plans-en/>Enlisted Community Resourcehttps://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/13SXNYOfbfhFHYQ-DTNpLzTDtYdPaz0f-M4W3HyxKcxg/edit#gid=982720857>Weapons List (Alpha)https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/e/2PACX-1vTaMOPl_kdxg_-AXjr_iY5NTOGi0h3njjxevc0eOX0qzkkIMUsYJv8sUdc5icsYpE4v7IifU9ZRHy4C/pubhtml#--->Update "Hidden Threat"https://enlisted.net/en/news/show/1025-update-hidden-threat-en/#!/>Battle Pass: Fifth Season of 2026https://enlisted.net/en/news/show/1043-battle-pass-fifth-season-of-2026-en/#!/>Reinforcements Received: Victory in Europe Dayhttps://enlisted.net/en/news/show/1041-reinforcements-received-victory-in-europe-day-en/#!/Previous: >>566168176
>>567020725Thanks to /elg/ I took the slav pill and started playing BR1 Soviets with as many SMGs as possible, and loaded my BR3 Germans with as many VG1-5s as possible.You guys were right this is stupid but it's really fun.
every day I log in and there aren't silver crates to waste my savings on I feel a profound emptiness
>>567023542>started playing BR1 Soviets with as many SMGs as possibleI want to do this. Soviets have enough stuff that every BR is great and it's hard to pick. At BR1 I can add the BA-11 and scoped PTRS. I've been playing BR2 though lately.>>566772712>Soviet P-40Man, the bombs on the Soviet P-40 are highly effective. For some reason I feel like they're better than other 250kg FABs found on like the P-63 and IL-10.
>>567023615They tease us with such short silver crate availability windows. I guess it's to prevent players from gambling all their silver away kek
rate my boys' fits
>>567026357they look like they raided a circus
>>567026542they're partially french, they're basically clowns to begin with
https://activematter.game/en/news/240
>>567031865Judging from the overwhelmingly positive Steam reviews, the demo was a huge success.
>>567026357The soldier on the right is giving that look
>enemy faggot has to gall to kill me with an impact grenade>begin cycling my 3 trooper squads with big grenade bags filled with impacts
>>567024106People do that anyway
Better 1911 and tokarev animations ported into Enlisted when?https://youtube.com/watch?v=pOWm33obA2Y
>>567046653they updated the 1911/high power for enlisted a while ago and it looks smoother. I wouldn't mind an update to the TT, though.
>Accidentally get 11k points as BR I Germans primarily using mortarsImpossible...
>>567031865>>567032303>>567046653>due to all the fake reviews posted by me and my fellow gaijin employees i deem this dead game a successthen make your own general you mentally ill and gay shill
>>567051863mortars are underrated, you can shut down entire advances if you know the map well enough and there isn't a roof.
>>567056909>Gaijin would continue to invest heavily into a game and release a lot of updates for it if it wasn't a success
active matter schizoposting is the only thing keeping this thread alive
https://activematter.game/en/news/241
imagine how much they could get people to grind if they had an event where you could do unlimited stages for body armor on all nations
With the points increase I can farm the event's stages in a single day without feeling as burnt out
>>567079898>Reduced the volume of Swarms buzzing.Nice change. Those buggers can be loud.
>>567085475I underestimated how many more points you can get with the score increase. The additional points for marking stuff and assisting damage goes a long way.
>>567085475>>567098017Getting 60 points per kill on the cap is just amazing. 70 and 100 points per rally and APC use also generates like 2000 points per match. All they need now is to buff sandbag points.
>>567102461>All they need now is to buff sandbag points.Paradivision made a good point about adding improved sandbags and barbed wire. At high BR sandbags get instantly deleted by everything. Reinforced sandbags or wooden buildables with more HP would be neat.
>>567102704Darkflow is understandably wary of giving engineers more buildable objects because matches where one team has a couple of guys spamming tank traps and wire are already hellish. The playerbase just isn't capable of dealing with obstructions, and bots really aren't.
>>567106302time to add bridge-laying vehicles
>>567106302bangalore torpedoes when
Why the actual fuck did they decide it was a good idea to lock AT guns for AT squads.
>>567109754Engineers can build them too. What other squads do you even wanna build AT guns on? Assaulters? Machine gunners get HMGs.
HMGs and MG emplacements should have reloads
>>567109754when the retarded devs decided to give them twice as many HE shells as AP shells
>>567110495The M2 and Type 92 are already a hard sell. The MG 131 and especially the DShK are miles ahead and a reload wouldn't help.
>>567112250to be fair, they could always just remove the MG131 entirely since it was never used in a ground role outside of the MG131E which is VERY different than what we haveclearly they should get an MG42 instead since that's pretty much what they used anywayalso the brits should get a vickers .50 and the spaghets should get a breda 37
>>567113360The MG 42 would have to be loaded with experimental AP ammo or something.
>>567113590>experimentaltungsten core ammo was common issue until shortages began anon
>>567113590retvrn to asymmetrical balance
emplaced MGs should not only have ammo and reloads, but also barrel changesthere should also be MORE machine guns
nips getting a top tier attacker finally
>>567110035Every squad should be able to. it's annoying when an enemy tank gets into a position but I have no means of dealing with it at long distance besides having my squad die, go in a tank/plane next life or risk running into a grey zone & hope I make it
>>567121964it makes sense for prem/engi/AT squads to be able to make HMGs, anything else and you just grayzone tank spam but with AT guns
>>567122502>it makes sense for prem/engi/AT squads to be able to make HMGs,no it doesn't
>>567122636er, AT gunsI was thinking about HMGsunregardless it still makes sense because prems get the paypig bonus(so do event squads I think) and with AT squads it at least sense that they'd be able to create an AT gun out of the ether like engi squads can
>>567121964Lol every soldier can equip an EP and almost every soldier can equip an AT mine and most squads can bring an AT soldier. Tanks are already easily countered and giving every engineer the capability of spawning in an AT gun would be miserable.
>>567110495MG nests have never given me trouble. They're so trivially dealt with which is partly why they're off-meta.
>>567127040>Tanks are already easily counteredLemme guess, the ninth explosion pack or twentieth type 5 rocket finally broke your KV's treads?
>>567129754Nah, just the first deployed ordnance lol
Every squad should be able to build the regular AT in the game while AT squads have access to better & more powerful AT guns, (e.g. Every squad can build a Pak 40 but Premiums & AT can build a 8.8 cm Pak 43)>>567127040I don't bring saboteurs or guerillas, so what is the counter to tanks in greyzone beside suicidue charge, counter play in a tank/plane, premium to build AT or bring an AT squad.
>>567131649Wait, just to be clear, you don't actually mean that webm, right?Because it's a nice webm and a very nice drop. I hope you're not implying that a panzer should be able to tank a 100lb to the undercarriage.
>>567132516>I hope you're not implying that a panzer should be able to tank a 100lb to the undercarriage.Nope. Just that there are plenty of options for dealing with tanks. I really can't remember the last time a tank dominated a match and stood uncontested. Planes can take care of tanks easily and is one such option is my point.
>>567132485The problem with that is not every nation even had a better AT gun that would be viable to give them.Also, giving ALL engineers AT guns would negate AT gunners in non-AT/Engineer squads. Also, AT guns are just used by greyniggers to farm the zone 99% of the time.Even IF they added AT guns to every squad, they should at least remove all the HE shells from everyone but engies/ATs which already have access to them. They should only get a (very small) amount of AP shells, like say a half-dozen. However, it also means that people WILL start using the AT guns as ways to just fucking block up roads and entrances to cap points, leading to the same issues of bots not knowing how the fuck to path as in the issue of giving them more buildables.Actually, are you just that fag that was saying all engineers need more buildables? Is the bullshit about tanks just a front so you can argue in favor of more retarded blue enemy engineer gooncave faggotry instead of holding fucking W and getting on the goddamn point?
>>567132856>Proceeds to take an agonising amount of time to reload in which another tank has taken its place & if smart enough will place itself in the crook of buildings
>>567132996This general has always been infested with emplacement main shitters
>>567132996I am a console player (I am way better than most of them, idk about how competent to PC players I am since I play with crossplay off)But god they are so fucking retarded, I understand it's free but these people just ignore everything. I've seen them not even try to engage tanks when it's firmly in our area. Or just straight up ignore my markers
>>567132485>I don't bring saboteurs or guerillas, so what is the counter to tanks in greyzone beside suicidue charge, counter play in a tank/plane, premium to build AT or bring an AT squad.How many squad slots do you have? Maybe I don't feel that sense of having limited options because I have 12 squad slots. So bringing a tank, fighter plane, attacker plane, and a saboteur or guerrilla squad isn't an issue. But if I only had 3 or whatever the default is then I can see your point. Either way, as a tanker, the fact that every soldier on the field could have an EP/AT mine/TNT and a way to deal with you kind of makes sitting back more enticing. The problem with that is there may not even be an effective angle to contest the point if you have to sit back. And if you do then surely there is at least one player on the team with a means to take out the tank.
>>567132485>Every squad should be able to build the regular AT in the game while AT squads have access to better & more powerful AT guns, (e.g. Every squad can build a Pak 40 but Premiums & AT can build a 8.8 cm Pak 43)I mean that's a decent compromise
>>567140283Fuck off emplacement fag
The current state of AT weapons is fine from BR II onward. The Americans just need a better AT rifle at BR I and they'll be set.
>>567144594Fuck off.Give Japan a BR3 AT option. And fix the fucking damage model on the stalinium KV niggerbunkers outright ignoring a dozen fucking EPs, TNTs, and rockets.
>>567145368Sounds like a skill issue tbqh lol
>>567145368Okay I agree that Japan needs an actual BR III option.
It would be cool if engineers could build bunkers and proper trenches
>>567148173there's a few mods that have buildable pillboxes that work well enough, but in actual matches a few people could waste everyone's time building impenetrable labyrinths for 30 minutes.
>>567132996with the gift fromAbove
>>56702635710/10.
>>567074728>>567079898>>567091650>samefags entire conversations about a game no one likes or playsmentally ill and gay
>it's detachabledid this actually exist
>>567102704Been wanting this for years.Spend more build materials to upgrade a defensive structure.Could have different upgrade lines for engineers of different tiers
how come the mg42 overheats so quickly when it's mounted on the APC but when it's handheld it doesn't overheat?
>>567170368It's due to the APC soldiers taking the lubricant for copius amount of buttsex. It's an unmentioned lore piece that they are secretly gay.
pretty sure in all my years i only saw a couple yak9ks, why dont ppl buy them?
>>567176569>why dont ppl buy them?Idk. They are super effective, and especially that they got down tiered to BR3.
>>567176569Soviets don’t seem to have as many paypigs, and what they do have aren’t as interested in aircraft
>>567183727Which faction mains have the most paypigs?
>>567189313Germany and US. You definitely see more premium air with US in general as well.
>>567170368Handheld barrel swaps in next update
>>567176569The 9T is free
Which faction has the most toxic assholes?
i did more than enough to secure our victory in this round, but there is only this much one can do alone! i guess the rest of the team landed in BR3/4 by “accident” and simply didnt understand whats going on in the slightesti had good fun though - took out 22 enemies with two shots from a fieldgun once
i got a mutt soldier from the box
>>567176569But I did. I bought one last sale.
>>567169592How stupid, more powercreepWhat's the point of a WW2 game where every soldier has a dozen magazines
>>567169592I mean, it's literally just a type 96 magazinethough I assume it was welded in place rather than detachable, but hey, fuck it
I WILL accept your friend invite and ignore every invite to a group you send
>>567225787Join my group invite, fucker
>2nd place to milfhunterI guess milfs have won this time
I will leave your friend invite in limbo forever so I can take screenshots of how many friend requests I have.
>>567235925Pic related, the hunter.Lolis always win. How can hags even compete?
I missed the last week, is the m1 carbine(bad) as bad as it seems?
>>567169592>>567219839The Arisaka (30) is one of the few guns in the game that would benefit from aim speed, I think. It has a lower ROF than the standard Arisaka Rifle.
>>567238902People have been saying after the buffs the M1 carbine is super strong.
>>567238902>>567248428He means the event carbine. Yeah, it is bad. It's basically one of the pistol carbines but far, far worse.
first or second day of todays challenge?
>>567250645second I thinkif the day is odd, it's first, if even it's second
>>567225787Literally me
i missed 2 events in a row and wont buy this battlepass, i think im cured of FOMO
>>567256661I'm skipping the event but the bp is still worth doing for the free gold
>>567250645>>567250853Crazy how stages don't have timers yet the way mini events do
>>567267241Not to mention the rifle is the meta BR2 pick, at least for supporting troops
>was unable to get the scoped ptrs-41 event gun
>>567291541you can always get 1 from crates :^)
>>567295687Not right now you can't
>>567256661I'm thankfully not feeling 'Listed FOMO anymore, but I'm going to see this event through as I'm very keen on building a Soviet BR IV loadout.
>>567302781They come back periodically
>>567287008Isn't the regular Arisaka rifle better because of the higher ROF+bayonet?
>>567314854I dunno, the 30 round mag+full mag reload within seconds makes it pretty insane to be tbhonest
>Play Americans>My team is 8/10 console players>Enemy German team is 8/10 PC playersRiveting.>>567314854>>567316049The 30 round mag massively increases the practical rate of fire because you aren't interrupted to reload every 5 shots. Bayonets are nice but a luxury.
>>567309129You can get silver chests right now. It won't be in the silver chests for some time
played this game on acid yesterday and realised why so many players are god awful at the game. Most players don't have the thought patterns that decent players have. When a decent player first enters the game their thoughts will be something like>Check the game mode (attacking/defending)>Select a squad and a suitable tactic (e.g. engineer squad and build fortifications, guerillas and flank, machine gunner squad and advance cautiously)>build a rally point, park squad is safe space, engage enemy>aim to get a few kills with each soldier, don't fear death>focus on the objectives>spawn next squad depending on what's needed most players thought patterns are something like>uhhh assault squad>run around aimlessly until identifying a target>get squad wiped >uhhh ok rifle squad >be way more cautious this time, lie in the grass and advance very slowly>don't engage enemy for fear of dying >Accidentally fall into grey zone and die>ok let's play a tank!Most players just don't have a clue how the game works or how to play it beyond "shoot enemy"
>>567318561A large amount of players are also "midwits" in the sense that they have a decent theory on how to play well, but they have all the wrong ideas on how to execute it. Brand new players who just hold W and go at the point are way, way, way more useful than middling players who insist on camping in a rundown building performing "tactical overwatch" or endlessly flanking as their caps get overrun.
>>567318561Despite being one inebriated to the point of not recognising maps and seeing fractals on screen everywhere I was still able to finish top (sometimes by a huge margin) just by using these "second nature" thought patterns, having reasonably built squads and a rough ability to click on enemies
>>567319171>middling players who insist on camping in a rundown building performing "tactical overwatch"lmao yes that's true. They're playing the game how I imagine HLL is played
Coming back to this game after playing ARB it's embarrassing how much the aim lead ruins air gameplay. It's mobile game tier point and click gameplay and it still filters half the playerbase. Very, very boring
>>567320092Infantry game.
>They gave the Turner Light Carbine a 10+1 round magHoly fuck.
>>567320351I exclusively do these stupid score events in planes because the teams are so bad
>>567321205Teams that are bad but not disastrously bad are great for earning score. Winning isn't as important as getting kills on the cap. You get 100 of those and you are at 6k points.
>>567321112Wait, you're right. The TLC is strong now, right?
>>567322946Yeah, it's really fucking strong.
>>567318561I just pick my meta rape squad and hold down W and LMB
>Turner can get 20 round box magazines>First variant was automaticWHEN? Make it a BR IV M2 Carbine.
>>567318561Rising Storm 2 had multiple filters you could turn on, including film reel and an acid trip.
>>567340840what weapon is this?
>>567340840Did he have any good loot on him?
The Turner Light Carbine is good, but still vastly inferior to pistol carbines. The power of the pistol carbines comes in being able to just tap at head level and wipe entire squads with laser headshots. The Turner isn't so good at that because 10 rounds just isn't as spam capable.
>>567340986SVD thermal>>567341793I don't remember
>>567081112So I actually wonder about that.How much does body armor actually help?Some of my Soviet assaulters have it but I lack the mental acuity to detect things like, gun, distance, angle when I survive getting shot.
>>567340840>>567340986>>567341793>>567348112stop samefagging your shitty tarkov clone in this general you mentally ill and gay nigger
>>567355682bodied that freak
>>567317352I just checked the store page and I did not see silver chests for sale.Are they not in the SHOP tab?
>>567355682>>567355727>only gay in the village shows she is a one trick ponysad
>>567356765>>>/lgbt/
Hey, can both of you schizo faggots get a room?Thanks.
>>567356765Lol the Active Matter logo is a nice touch
>>567354580If you ever have body armour + Vitality on a guy and you survive with a sliver of HP (like 1 HP), that survival was only possible because of body armour. Generally speaking, body armour + Vit allows you to survive 1 extra shot at most combat ranges. That may not sound like much but it's a 100% TTK difference with the G41, for example.
>>567355883They’re the 15 day login reward now
>>567359927I got a hero soldier from my last Silver Chest login. Japanese MG I think? It's a shame hero soldiers are fairly redundant and you don't need more than 1-2 of each class.
>>567359927Oh for fucks sake of course they are, I'd be gambling all of my silver if I was able to buy those in the shop.
I just realised my machine Gunner III squad for Japan has gone basically unused for over a year. I upgraded the troop and the gun and left the squad size etc unupgraded. Also, the Type 1 (1930) fucking sucks.
>>567357996Oh shit that's actually good news.I should buy body armor for all of my dudes with Vit.
>>567363903All your guys should have Vitality by default. You are about to become a statistic (one of the people who actually uses Vit and armour). It's surprisingly uncommon. Vitality isn't even common despite being incontrovertibly the best perk in the game.
>>567362237You have the Hotchkiss? Japan is so short on squads you should be using all their assaulter, LMG, and riflemen squads just between BR2, 3, and 5 presets.
>>567365953I was basically only playing BR III and V.
>>567321526Playing in full stacks is good for getting wins, but bad for farming score and in effect xp/silver.
>>567318561Enlisted just has a truly shocking community. Vast swathes of players have a mindset that is genuinely:>What if instead of trying to win, or even kill people, or do ANYTHING...>I just did nothing?It's baffling. You'd think the goal of a first person shooter is to shoot in first person, but no, apparently it's to not do anything.
paid hardcore matchmaker with limited hud, FF, no lead/pen indicators, aim stamina, actual recoil when?
>>567373898Just nerf or remove recoil reduction perks. The guns are pretty reasonable in terms of recoil without perks, but perks just make them laser beams.
Why is the Type 99 (Early) BR II when it's worse than the Type I in every way?>Lower damage (for some reason?)>Lower muzzle velocity>Longer reload>Less accurate>Significantly more recoil>Significantly heavier
>>567374239dawg we couldnt even get a slight nerf to autorifles, its never happeningstalingrad wasnt even truly hardcore or fully paid and it already had a much higher skill player pool. they could at least run a hardcore event or something to take metrics on its popularity like they did with nuclear thunder
>>567377202The autorifle nerf wasn't really "slight" and was targeting the wrong part of the problem, since it would have just resulted in players not running meta perk builds or not understanding the perk system getting shit on even harder. However, it would have been a step in the right direction, yeah.
>>567357232right after you hang yourself tranny freak
>>567377534it was a minor global reduction of recoil control to the entire weapon class, they werent gutted by any means and it almost certainly wouldnt have been a huge change to the meta, but we didnt really have a chance to at least try it in a match because of a half dozen posts on the forumhow do you think the forum algae would respond to the outright removal of recoil perks?
>>567380345I am genuinely baffled by "who" (or "what") even likes the way autorifles are. They fucking suck. The only weapons that can really compete are maybe the MG 42 100 and the Fedorov, everything else is a downgrade. How is that fun, at all? There are theoretical niche use defensive scenarios for other guns, but even then, you can just use an autorifle and be aggressive with better results.
>>567343783Erm, don't the PCCs have very poor accuracy?
>>567383561Only the Soviet one. The Beretta 1918 has 0.25, the Light Rifle has 0.36 (good enough) and the KB-P-135 has 0.49, which makes it notably bad since your bullets can fly around your target's head.
Can the S.Pershing resist the Ofenrohr frontally if angled?Can it resist the Panzerfaust 100?
>>567390698The Pershing hull has a lot of different weak and strong points, just depends on where you get hit
>>567390698Generally speaking yes. Keep in mind that shells in Dagor don't "arc" so to speak.
>>567384781Apparently the accuracy in the PCCs was nerfed at some point because it is apparently way worse than this now?
BR4
>>567390698I've been taken out by 20mm cannons in the Pershing before. That surprised me. So probably yes.
This new event looks interesting, but I'm not sure that I really want a 7.2 hit power PCC other than for novelty.However, the proto-FAL looks cool.
>the battlepass weapon is BR2lel into the trash it goes! the only nip BRs worth playing are 1 and 5
https://forum.enlisted.net/t/end-of-the-battle-of-monte-cassino/180130
Very interesting format for this new event, they haven't done anything like this before. Normally I'd default to the high BR stuff but for several reasons I think I'm going to go MP-35, Light Rifle, and Lewis Rifle.
>>567407245The Lewis Assault Rifle was amazing for the first two weeks it was added when it had above 14.3 base damage. It's still very good and a lot better than their other BR2 LMGs.
>>567415350it being basically a modern ar in terms of design works in its favor
>>567413790>he doesn't know
>>567414841>>567415205>Please note: the Farquhar-Hill M1918 and Mondragón M1908 cost two ordersOrders? Ugh. I mean if they were only going to give us 2 or 3 event rewards I guess the choice is fine. I might get the Farquhar-Hill and S&W.>they haven't done anything like this beforeThey did it in the Trial by Combat eventhttps://enlisted.net/en/news/show/908-trial-by-combat-2-en/#!/
>>567420263Yes and no. Yes to the several options part, no to the multiple orders for some items part. Last time they did that was the Berlin event where you chose between (multiple) swords and the red PPS-42. It wasn't even the good one with more damage it was the shitty one with the same damage.In any case, I think this is a very good style moving forward for these old GO and event items where you get to pick a limited amount out of a larger pool. You can get what you might have missed out on previously or finish off that squad that just needs one more copy or what have you.
new map when
got another rally wire, posting so I remember to go back and get the clip from the replay
I ~could~ get another mommy dragon and use the remaining ticky on a lewis assault phase rifle aka LAPR aka LARPor I could just get 3 larps
>assault phaseahh yes i remember this autism now
>>567427250well akchually that's what the project was called
>>567427108>For completing 8, 9 and 10 out of the 12 tasks, you will receive an order that you can use to buy a weapon! Each weapon can only be purchased once!>Each weapon can only be purchased once!
>>567121106What's that ?
>>567415350I refuse to use the USA BR2 MGs out of spite of hating having a screen eating magazine in my face, so I'm genuinely looking forward to using it.
>>567418127Do you actually enjoy the Japanese boat tank or is it just all you can get that has a decent gun?
>>567436012I have 12 squad slots and Japan has fewer squads to distribute between my BR presets
>>567436164How many years of playing did it take for you to assemble this battalion?
>>567433198https://wiki.warthunder.com/unit/g4m1
>>567439589Simply maxing a tree isn't difficult, but I played before certain resource changes that helped me out when it came to stockpiling resources. Every one of my soldiers in every BR preset has max rolled stats which itself is incredibly expensive silver wise.
>>567362237>the Type 1 (1930) fucking sucks.skill issue
>>567421873Maybe next update +- June.
>>567432553devilish
Coming back to USA BR2, they are so much stronger now. Not only are the teams good but the amount of gear added to the lower BRs have made them extremely varied with a ton of strong gear.>Kretz>Viper>Thompson brought to BR2>Spitfire+P38>LAR>ChaffeeRidiculously strong with high variety now. I tried the TLC too and it's really good and fun to use.
>>567414841>>567415205>>567415350The "meta" pick is the MP 35, because it's probably the strongest BR II SMG in the game, or among the strongest. The Beretta 1918 and Light Rifle are also extremely strong. Funnily, as neat as the Mondragon and Farquhar-Hill are, they aren't really the "meta" picks because BR IV is such a wasteland. They are outrageously OP in a vacuum, but not within the context of needing to face T20s and FG 42s.As for the Lewis Assault Rifle, it's good, but it feels boring to use. Dunno why. Maybe it's the super low ROF but even when I do well with it, I feel kinda frustrated. Having a third one would be nice but I also have the Chattyratty for my MG squad for a bit of variety. Shockingly I don't really have much use for ANY of these event guns, so I guess I will just grab all the "small" rewards.Really good event format, they should do more of these.>>567442151It's a worse MP 28 (7.65). Considering the Japanese have the M1921 Thompson (20) and Type 100 (Early) at BR II, the Type 1 (1930) is a hard sell. It also has really bad hipfire accuracy for some reason.>>567444709It's weird playing the Japanese at BR II-III and constantly being on the back foot against hyper-aggressive US teams.
>>567446654I like that it depends on your current situation. I constantly shill BR4 Germany but because so much of it is premium squads and I also have the Italian semi auto I've got like 4 Mondragons sitting unused already. The MP-35 will be perfect because my BR2 assaulter squad only had three of them. The Lewis Assault Rifle will be the missing third one on that squad. And the Light Rifle will fill in on my BR1 US premium and event squads.
>>567447405This is probably what I am gonna go with, yeah. MP 35, Lewis, Light Rifle.
>>567446654>can't use a 50 round immense trigger time SMG without recoilskill issue
>>567447615Or, I could use the MP 28, which has actually decent sights and even less recoil, or the Type 1 Premium squad that is the same thing but better.
>>567448663>fucking sucks
>>567448853>Terrible sights>Low ROF>Terrible hipfire accuracyI should have said it sucks within the context of Japan's SMGs. I dunno if I would even use it over the Lanchester.
>>567449836sights are subjective, there is absolutely a niche for low RoF controllable SMGs, I haven't had any issues with it's hipfire. I use all four of mine even though I don't really have a neat place for all of them
>>567451081It has the same sight problem as the Johnson, but arguably worse since the gross, flat metal part takes up more space.
>Play as Japs>Get put against Americans>Enemy team is just an endless parade of fucking Shermans>Screen is ALWAYS fucking shaking>Plane and tank slots are always occupied>No real way to deal with them until they get bored and leave the grey zone>Play as Germans>Get put against Americans>Enemy team is just an endless parade of fucking Shermans>Screen is always shaking>Plane and tank slots are always occupied>No real way to deal with them until they get bored and leave the grey zoneI think I got motion sickness from playing two rounds of Enlisted...
>>567431698hey, I didn't read thatI just saw the tickets and guns
>>567444709You can run BR II Americans on extremely strong event squads exclusively.>Liu rifle>Charlton>Welgun>Universal CarrierRotating these is genuinely oppressive.
When does the reinforcements received event reset?>>567452267Currently US teams seam to be the strongest at br3 for all nations. I stopped queueing all because Germany players refused to do anything and I was sick of the far East (it really need more maps).
>>567459959I still won those matches, it was just nightmarish. American teams are relentlessly aggressive again, which was how they were back in Ye Olden Tymes. Just endless Muttswarms...>When does the reinforcements received event reset?In like 12 hours. I missed a day because I drove to the middle of nowhere due to an obligation.
>>567435809Wait, since when is the Lewis BR2? I could swear they were BR3?
>>567462075the lewis machine gun is BR3, the assault place rifle is BR2 and honestly the only good BR2 allied MG since every single other one is a top loader
>>567464334skill issue
Post them
>>567441030This is an incredible list, I've done my best to max out lower tiers before moving upwards but this looks like years of dedication. I'm very impressed.I can see this confirms my suspicions about the ideal low BR play, which is to dominate by bringing as many SMGs as possible.Is there some wise reason you chose the MAS-36 over the Mannlicher?
>>567464487take away the location of the magazine, and all of the allied BR2 MGs are roughly equal.removing the view obstruction only makes it better.
>>567469771Those are Mas-38s
>>567469771>I can see this confirms my suspicions about the ideal low BR play, which is to dominate by bringing as many SMGs as possible.It depends. I'd say the best Jap BR2 weapon is the Hotchkiss LMG. My MG-30s in that Germany lineup are also used very heavily. Also, those MKb-35s are actually assault rifles.
>>567471621Thank you anon-sama
>>567472457And to be clear, if I didn't have stacked event SMG and gold order weapon squads and was just using progression, the lineup would look very different, Meta progression BR2 Germany is mostly MG-13 spam.
the boys AT is completely intolerable with how sweaty BR1 is now. it takes 3 rounds to split a track, are they fucking kidding??
>>567474213The Boys is the worst ATR I think
>>567477476what about the pzb38 and ptrd
they can't make me hate you, dicked max
>>567477801They have more pen. The worst is the Tankgewehr.
The Lewis Assault Rifle is the best one they're offering from the event.Pic related, training my machinegunner IIIs squad in BR2.
>>567464334Yeah, I mean the assault rifle, wasn't it BR3 originally? Or maybe I'm getting confused over a nerf it had, but I'm sure something about it was changed beside the damage
>>567415350The Lewis is probably not better than the Besal
>>567415205I assume you can't just buy 3 mp35s or lewis guns and need to get 3 different prizes, right?
>>567490731Yeah, if I recall, I think it was going to be BR3 on release?Then they changed it to BR2 after some complaints or something, then nerfed it a little to compensate. Honestly, it's a good change. The best part of the LAR is that it doesn't have a fucking top mag like literally every other BR2 MG. On the contrary, the sights are fantastic to use. Lets it be a really good gun via user comfort rather than just statistical OPness.
>>567498930The event text says you can only get 1 of every gun
They changed the event rewards, you now get 4 blue tickets.You can now get the Farquhar & the Mondrago if you want.
Also today news:>Soldier filterhttps://enlisted.net/en/news/show/1046-soldier-filter-en/#!/
Is the Light Rifle any good? I'm thinking of getting it from the event
>>567515531It's "nice", but I'm not sure even a squad combining the Light Rifle and the new Turner carbine will be able to breathe fun into US BR I
>>567515531The Beretta is better
>1 ticket itemsLARP>>>>>MP35>1918/30>S&W light rifle if only because it doesn't get a bayonet>2 ticket itemsmons draggin>farquad-hill
>>567520312Well, anon, I can get both
>>567529445yeah but then you can't get a moondagger and a LAR
How come the Lewis Assault Rifle is classed as a Machine Gun rather than, you know, an Assault Rifle?
anyone find a ppsh drum or thompson in the timeline collision event? dozens of times now I have yet to see one
>>567514095the mondragon should have been a cei rigotti
>>567480784Yeah that thing is an absolute joke.But I like it for the sake of supporting asymmetrical balance.Germany BR1 gets much better tanks than the Soviets do after all.
>>567483903>time only partially censorednaughty.>>567531180I would say because there's no other assault rifles at that tier but I honestly don't know.Maybe now I finally have a reason to throw a machine gunner into an assault squad instead of a sniper to pretend I have 5 assaulters.
>>567531180well, for one, it's a machine gunand two, it's a full-power rifle cartridge and we already have one machine gun incorrectly classified as an AR we don't need anotheralso it's the assault phase rifle, not the assault rifle
>>567537632you are asking for too much from this crowd
>>567537632nta but /k/tism activated, technically it would be a battle rifle, much like a G3 or FAL, because it fires a full power rifle cartridge from a select fire, easily carried package.I know the Japs and Soviets get some napkin rifles in intermediate calibers, the only true assault rifle in the game (excluding weirdo event guns) are sturmgewehr 44 and its variants.
>>567539550battle rifle is a term typically reserved for post war full bore small arms, let alone something from WW1
>>567531180Gaijin is retarded.
>>567539780Touché.I think >>567540025 has a more apt explanation.
hehe you guys fell for the lewis assault rifle question :p
>>567539550assault rifle is a fake mutt term, vedorov was a fullauto rifle hence a rifle that could be used for assault
>>567536801The MKb is at BR II. When the Lewis AR was first added, it had 14.4 damage, which suggests that it was probably going to be an autorifle or something. It was probably changed to BR II and a machine gun because it would have been a terrible autorifle.
>>567534360>cei rigotti>10 second reload time
>>567557772Just drop it and pick it up with an Ass IV every time you spawn :)
>>567557772skill issue
I like the gay rigatoniit goes pakka pakka pakka pakka and you get to go to cover to reload, just like my milsims
>>567564897Most Enlisted players don't take cover, they just stand in the open and fire, somehow the bots are better than them
mystery niggas
>console player pulls left trigger, then right trigger without any stick input>die instantly from his obscene skill outclassing minehow tedious
>>567577301Consoles don't even get that much auto aim in Ensharted.
>>567578570wrong
>>567564897It definitely has a higher skill ceiling with the constant hot loading 5 round stripper clips every time you have a second of downtime. I definitely would pick them up if I had the option.
>>567579064It is relatively little. Most console games basically play themselves now.
>>567580023and how many of those games have weapons that instantly kill anywhere they tap you as all of the starter unlocks
>>567580896Most CoD and Battlefield games have a near instant TTK. Enlisted's aim magnetism is most similar to CoD 4 from my understanding/experience.
>>567581084it is literally impossible for the TTK to be higher than an instantaneous OHK weapon buddy. all the bolt actions in those games also only OHK on a headshot or upper torso hit. enlisted console "players" only have to magnetize to one of your pixels to one tap you. a better comparison would be to the aim snap in HLL (extremely subtle) or RS2 (nonexistent)
bump
Been using the turner a little while now, and I enjoy the feel of it more than the M1 Carbine despite that both occupy the same use.It reminds me of a PCC counterpart to the Winchester G30M rifle, albeit with a magazine.Very comfy, and being a 2 shot kill to the torso at sub 100yds makes it quite enjoyable.
>>567587324no, no, no. it's supposed to be weak because damage so you aren't allowed to enjoy it
>>567587916It was weak because it had a 5 round mag. Now it's just fine.
>>567592113c o p e
Oh shit, so they changed it so you can get four event orders?It was three originally, right? I was thinking it was a bit lame that they made some of them cost 2 orders but only gave you three total. Four is good. Even though I still plan to get the LAR, Light Rifle, and Beretta. Guess I can get the MP 35 now, as well.
>>567597174A 2 shot kill gun with 5 rounds is pretty bad. Even assuming all headshots because you are XXX BITCH TRIPLE X RATED bangarang, that's 5 kills per mag. Your average player will probably get 1-2 kills per mag. At this point the TLC is at least nominally better than the 1866, which is a two shot kill in a practical sense (as it becomes a 2 shot kill at like 15 meters), at least the TLC shits out bullets and is accurate. They should give the 1866 like 11 damage or something. Alternatively, give it heaps of damage and make it BR II.
>Arisaka (30) uses Type 96 magazines>Doesn't actually use Type 96 magazinesGRRR.
>>567598169they could have just dropped all of them for everyone since none of them are particularly interesting but getting the four 1 ticket guns is the best deal now.
>>567610951I wish we could get multiples of the same gun.Then I think I'd get two LARs and two Berettas.
>>567598169You "guess" you'll get an MP 35? It's the strongest gun of the lot, buster!
>>567621461Yeah, but is it FUN?The LAR is a BR2 MG without the godawful vertical magazines. The other two are both BR1 PCCs. The MP 35 is just yet another BR2 German SMG in a game with like two dozen different BR2 German SMGs.
>>567621676honestly? I love the MP35, it's funI have no desire for a 90th farquad, the 9mm carbines are just ok, it really only makes sense to get the mondragon, LAR(p), and MP35 if you've already got them all
>>567169592pretty disappointed that you don't reload via a satchel full of stripper clips like the Gew.98 Trench. Obviously swappable mags are more powerful but they're also more boring, oddball off-meta weapons are fun
>>567610951Honestly it depends what BRs you play at. If you don't play at low BR, the low BR weapons aren't worth it because chances are you won't use them.
>>567621461>>567624094Isn't the MP 35 in the tech tree?
>>567636259Different MP-35
>>567636259>>567621676The tech tree MP 35/I is BR III. The event MP 35 is BR II and probably the best German SMG at BR II and one of the best SMGs overall. The LAR and PCCs are probably the more fun options thoughever since Germany has an overabundance of SMGs.
>>567637419>>567652405What's the difference between the two?
>>567658061The MP 35/I is at BR III and has a slightly longer barrel and higher weight, giving it lower recoil and more accuracy, but only marginally. It's like 10% better, if that. Totally fine gun for BR III, but the MP 35 (Short) at BR II is basically a BR III gun at BR II. It's kind of in the same ballpark as the Suomi KP/-26, but maybe a little better or worse depending on what you value in a gun, and the Suomi is considered extremely strong.
>>567658385Axis have a bunch of smg options at BR II. Like 6 in the tech tree at BR II I think. Is it really better than all of them? What about the MP-40?
>>567658798Yeah, it's better than all the tree options if TTK is your concern. It is arguably better than the PPS-43, but probably not better than the Type 100 (Early). Keep in mind the MP 35 (Short) fires 50% faster than the MP 40, meaning it kills significantly faster. It's just balanced in everything and is close to being the sublime, platonic ideal of an SMG in its BR range.But the fact that the Germans get so many insanely strong event AND tree SMGs diminishes its real value because you can just whip out the MAS-38 or something and do similar damage.
>>567659221Well it's not 50% that's an exaggeration but it does fire like 200 RPM faster, which brings it firmly into the ideal ROF for an SMG with its mag size (about 700-800 RPM).
>>567629143Me, I feel the wartime Gewehr's sights and RoF are so shitty it could be BR I instead of II without upsetting any balancing
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>>567665461GIGASTRUCTUREIG AS TR UC TUR E
>>567659221the way you dress up your opinions in flowery language to parade them around as objectivity sickens me
>>567665143Yeah, the G98 Warmod isn't actually that great. It's not bad but the fact that you don't have to reload doesn't really make up for the RoF.
>>567531180Cause a rose by any other name yada yada.Enlisted occupies the worst space between gun nuts and history buffs who are WAY too hung up on semantics and technicalities. So they hear "Assault Rifle" (which wasn't even its name) and they get all 'well ackshully' when the reality is 1)the name is wrong in the first place as the Snail often fucks up names and 2) definitionally, these terms are rarely applied so stringently or with Specificity by either the engineers making them or the officers/government stooges doing the official adoption. Remember the *MP*43/44 was considered an SMG until an offhand comment by Hitler, and the AK47 was considered a SMG until thr AKM was released. Even the 'standard' definition of an assault rifle excludes and includes many weapons that should not be (i.e. would a P90 be a Assault Rifle? Intermediate cartridge, select fire, ect, are AR15s now MPs because there are PCCs? It's all horseshit). See also, Battlerifles.
>>567666730see >>567544412
>>567666462I ain't seeing a rebuttal. The MP 35 is in the top 3 SMGs at BR II because it has no flaws. It is arguably better than the PPS because it is a two shot kill at point blank avast Vitality users where the PPS is 3. The other top SMGs are the Type 100 because it is a perfectly accurate zero recoil laser, and maybe the (controversial opinion) Thompson because it hard counters Vitality while retaining a generally high TTK, offsetting its mediocre sights and funny recoil.
>>567667184the disease of the meta fanboys is that they ignore whole domains of what a weapon feels like to use in favor of fawning over things like TTKthe FNAB and OVP are both outstanding guns for their niches btw
>>567667987The OVP is fun but it's also just worse than the Beretta 1918. I actually use a variety of guns at all BRs because I like to have fun, but there are obviously guns that are better than others. I can't really tell why you would use the FNAB for anything besides aesthetics (which it has) when you could just use the M38/42, which has the same advantage of trigger time while also being significantly more accurate and firing fast enough to not end up needing to slowly put four bullets into a Vit user.
>>567668456I accept your concession.
>>567670217Cute hats. Lack of Pavesis and Scottis is disappointing.
had to buy a bunch of event progress again
>>567677695for a worse m1 carbine?
Is the ISU-152 going to be a meaningful addition to USSR BR IV? I know it can at least punch through Panther upper frontal plates like the rare 100mm tank cannon that's already in the game.
>>567681051no
I feel like BR2 is getting a lot of uptiers lately
>>567680138For both events. I’ve come too far to start missing out now just because I have shit to do irl now
>>567672370those are busy on mainline squads
the armaguerra is also fine for what it is
10
the TLC is really a great add, wish we were getting four
15 round m2 carbine for BR3 when
>BR2 japan solo vs 3-4 mutt players forward capping every obj with guerillasfuck this game and this dogshit playerbase
>>567684961I'm skipping this one
>>567701481Two guns and a worthless tank is pretty fucking raw.
>Win a Confrontation match by the clock despite having a terrible team:)>Lose a Confrontation match by the clock despite facing a terrible team:(
Now we're cooking with gas.
>>567708626What are you using the Mk III over the No.4 for?
>>567710410I like how it looks :) The No. 4 is obviously vastly superior but the SMLE is nice.
>montecucksino tasks refresh a day after victory dayWhose idea was that
>>567711221Get your first three Monte Casino tasks done in 1-2 matches then get your 4 matches and 25k points in the next day, along with BP tasks. Easy. It's obviously to keep engagement up.
>>567708626the british look stupid everywhere but the bulge
>>567665461>>567665909mentally ill and gay
>its over
>so over
>over is in the rear view mirror right now
>>567723929I get infinite queues a lot when I alt tab after hitting the button
>>567711221What's the issue? You can still complete them every other day as if they were synchronized.
>>567723929Yeah matching times take forever for popular factions because everyone stacks the faction with perceived superiority. Been an issue with this game since the very beginning
>>567723387>>567723528>>567723929Works on my machine. Have you tried stopping the queue and starting it again?
>>567702716>worthless tank>Literally the most powerful cannon Soviets get
>>567751207cutted shells)))
>>567756093>cutted shells)))We have yet to see but unfortunately, probably.
