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Horrible design decisions edition

>Guide
https://www.bungie.net/en/Guide/Destiny2
>Year of Prophecy
https://www.destinythegame.com/en/YearOfProphecy
>Destiny Rising
https://www.playdestinyrising.com/

>News
TWID (5/14): https://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/twid_05_14_2026
Update 9.5.6.3: https://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/destiny_update_9_5_6_3

>Resources
DIM: https://app.destinyitemmanager.com/
D2 foundry: d2foundry.gg
Armor Picker: https://d2armorpicker.com/
API: https://www.light.gg/
Stats: https://destinytracker.com/
Braytech: https://braytech.org/
PressKits: https://press.bungie.com/Destiny-2
Checkpoint Bots: https://d2checkpoint.com/
Popularity Report: https://popularity.report/

>TTK, Buffs/Debuffs, DPS, etc...
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1WaxvbLx7UoSZaBqdFr1u32F2uWVLo-CJunJB4nlGUE4/

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>Truth with my me
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>me with my Truth
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>>567026710
>trusting retarded niggers on the internet
Hasn't destiny 2 taught these people anything?
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>>567027182
He doesn't understand that the thing in the screenshot is exactly what makes Marathon fun.
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>>567027451
>Marathon
>fun
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>>567027451
>fun
those who know
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>>567027451
Whats fun about it?
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Go back to your carebare hugbox game maratroons
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yeah let us talk about destiny in peace
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I'm watching the WNBA right now
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How many Runners remain? Do you even know? There would have been 12k on Wednesday night, maybe less. Such a loss. Do you feel it in your heart? Does it leave a hole? Joe Cross was my finest recruit. He understood sacrifice and when one is necessary. I honor his memory each day. When our enemy rises, we meet their challenge. It is why I created the Hand of Rape. I found the best. The cruelest. The most efficient rapists in the universe... and taught them how to be better. My Runner Rapists are coming for you. It is your time to rise.
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I just love destiny 1 & 2
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We also love Marathon here
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I'm waiting to hear what Saarnit's response to Marathon becoming baby PVE game with no content is going to be.
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What is this?
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feeling excited for the big destiny update on june 9
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Over
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watch
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https://www.bungie.net/7/en/News/Article/launch_learning_whatsnext
my favorite line for the marathon update article:
>We're embarking on a multi-season journey built around growing from the seed of this strong community.
if bungo were the smol indie studio they pretend to be, having "seed" size player base would be a good thing. but they aren't, they are a multibillion dollar company
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>>567032405
>still """learning""" after 3 decades of game development
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Anyone want to play some D1 later? I just made a new account and bought the game the other day. Kind of a bummer that you cant just go straight into a raid as soon as you start the game
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>>567032405
>multi-season journey built around growing from the seed of this strong community
Embarrassing statement. A tiny community of fervent assholes while everyone else abandons the bad game with a bad playerbase.
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Play Marvel Rivals
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>>567033079
>play slop
Im good bro i already know what it was like
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>>567032835
What class?
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>>567033520
titan
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>post yfw pic related shows up during summer gamefest
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>>567033702
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>>567033702
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>>567033079
Why can't Destiny have women that look like that
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>>567033079
Made for Eddie, Made for Logan, Made for Remy, in that order
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>>567033963
This is what marathon looks like
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Anyone want to raid in D2 ?
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>>567033702
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Pretty decent day of grinding, I think I'll be able to do WoTM soon.
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>Marathon is getting a PVE queue
lmao they're desperate for money after that 700 million dollar loss
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>>567033702
I don't want to rebuild my inventory,sorry.
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>>567038365
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>>567038610
make sure to fill out the progress on weapons even if you are going to delete then as it gives motes of light
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Who got the dmg loud lullaby tweet
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>>567038915
i used to post it all the time here before i quit
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>>567033702
>A. A ha. A ha ha ha. A ha ha ha ha ha ha ha
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We move.
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>>567030150
The runners lost this war years ago.
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>>567039324
Thank u goat
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>>567039324
To this day I am still baffled. Like why
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Its time to admit that bungie won. Quite bigly I might add
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i miss this game
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>>567051113
people say destiny was like an abusive relationship, but now that i've happily moved on i still feel vaguely sad at her turning into a schizo crackwhore
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The marakeks have been in cope overdose trying to spin the news as anything but Bungie coping and putting out literally just sentences for "how they are totally going to fix(!) the game" in their efforts to double down on the shitheap while trying to get people to come back.

You're the Destiny Studio and you even fucked that up. Now you have some washed developer from a different studio telling you how to continue fucking up.
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>check maratroon thread
>guy asking about the game
>actual degenerates with 120 and 200 hours saying it's worth the money and the best game they've played
Reddit colony.
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>>567051113
Check back after June 9th
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>>567051495
a temporary craftening is actually a great idea. like URF in league
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>>567051495
sis... its may now...
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>>567033702
>not D3stiny
anon you don't fully understand bungie yet
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>>567051489
>reddit is full of people malding about PvE players being able to play the game without getting raped
>some even asking for cryo to still be PvP only
i can't wait for when bungie and the raped realize that pvefags want everything and not some half assed thing
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>>567057684
Some sourceless post on /v/ is claiming that Cryo and the keys for it arent going to be available in the pve mode and the loot will be maxed at blue tier. Wouldnt surprise me if it was true.
>pve content is below the bare minimum and only exists to trigger pvp
>would/will need many years just to bring the game up to like 1/3 of d1 pve standards
>talk about introducing a pve mode
Bungie is using this to test the limit of how much they can set themselves up for failure before they lose the game of solo russian roulette while an audience watches.

Also doesn't everything about what they've said contradict that retard zieglar's """vision"""? Sony must have a gun to his or Bungie's head.
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Even so I cant help but laugh at the marathon community trying to push away the pve audience. They dont realize the reality of the situation that most people play games casually and not like a esport 24/7 so bungie actively shot themselves in the foot trying to make marathon be the next big thing. Whats even funnier is the fact they never learned from their mistakes and kept doubling down to see if they can actually get something but in the end they fucked themselves
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>>567059014
It's gonna be funny to watch it unfold once again
>contradict the VISION
It does and i hope sony will force him to bend backward, i've yet to see a single game where sticking to it didn't completely fuck it over
>>567059521
Yea i have no clue why they are this aggressive, but i blame bungie for not stopping them
offshots from tarkov/arc? I doubt they were yellow minigamers
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>>567059863
>offshots from tarkov/arc? I doubt they were yellow minigamers
They flew Tarkov streamers out to promote it when they pivoted to making it an extraction shooter, and they were all disinterested. Bungie further changing the game to keep trying to court them was just them continuing to be as retarded as we know they are.
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>>567060321
I forgot about that fucking blunder lmao
who the fuck are these raging pvpfags then? all rape no brakes
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>>567059863
Biggest issue is that they dtuck to the vision for so long there isnt really any turning back. The game is ugly as sin and everything about it has been made for "the vision". Honestly the game is almost as if they tried as hard as possible to make a game that needs as little content input as possible.

Now they are faced with the reality that it's dogshit in the eyes of everyone they need playing the game and they are left there with their dick in the guillotine and they have absolutely no ability to respond except half measures like disabling PVP and begging people to come back.
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I cannot be understated how much long term reputation damage this single slide did to Bungie
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forsaken had enough content to make bungie have an 8 year tantrum
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>>567061286
Still don't understand how anyone at any level of the company looked at this and said "yeah this is great". Or how anyone sees this and thinks "yeah this company cares and is full of passion".
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>>567061807
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>>567061275
The shells look like shit and 90% of the game too, the only thing i liked during the slam were the interiors
a mostly interior map probably works better with the blocky artstyle
>Honestly the game is almost as if they tried as hard as possible to make a game that needs as little content input as possible.
This is probably what they were going for
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Dotting i's? Crossing T's?
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team is cooking
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D1
>solid foundation
>Fix the house on it
>make the inside real nice
>people still remember it fondly
D2
>foundation is cracking and water is getting in
>they fix the foundation
>expansion onto the house
>expansion onto the house
>expansion onto the house
>"running out of room for expansions" he says out loud while looking out at his gigantic unused property
>tear down house to make room for expansions
>expansion onto the house of theseus
>roof starts leaking because of all the shoddy expansions
>maybe it's time to-
>expansion onto house of theseus
>the inside starts rotting
>expansion
>entire previous expansions are now unsalvageably rotten
>expansion
>silence as roof slowly creaks and collapses
Marathon
>crackshack made of decaying wood and corrugated metal
>spray painted with whatever scraps the graffiti artist dropped while running from the cops
>homeless man proudly asks you to rent from him
>contract states that every 3 months he sells everything you own to a pawn shop and smokes meth behind a Wendies using the money
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>>567063935
ngl this leaves out how colossally bad the esport chasing ideas of D2Y1 were. the optimal activity was fucking earth public events for god's sake
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Remember the faction rally grind? They forced you to pretty much grind lost sectors if you wanted tokens
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>>567064526
as grinds go those weren't that bad
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>>567065070
Its more of the fact they forced you to do only one thing meanwhile factions in d1 allowed you to do anything for rep including donations aswell
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>>567065192
true true aswell poster
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>>567064526
I memba when there was a particular lost sector that was exploitable in the EDZ by running out the back and running back in allowing you to loot the final chest over and over for easy faction tokens.
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can't wait for Bungie to save Destiny, prove all the haters wrong, watch them crawl back to the game and this general, all while we can gloat about being real ones who never doubted Bungie
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>>567067779
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>Hopesissy came back just to make the most nonsensical post xhe's ever made
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i want to come back and play this
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>>567069038
you will, but just wait for D3, they've already wrapped up D2
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>>567067779
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its over
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>>567069805
It's been over
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Its been over since shadowkeep TBQH
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>Marathon dropped to the third most searched game on SteamDB
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>>567070632
she should've taken what the fag Brookes started with Saint and Osiris and made it a full-on yaoi dynamic between them, would've been pretty cool lole.

this is why you hire fujos and not just basic-ass DnD writers
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>>567069805
do they know that the overlapping fanbase is like 10%
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Eris and drifter relationship: felt natural
Osiris and Saint: felt forced
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>>567070934
76 percent of marathon players have played destiny 2
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>>567070934
Probably not. This would have been cool if they didn't leave Destiny to die after TFS for Marathon. Now most of us hate Marathon, yet another uphill battle for Bungie and it's all their fault.
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>>567071030
wasn't that because of that bug that installed destiny 2 when booting the beta? I meant d2 fans anyway, not marafags
>>567071158
I'll never understand why the fuck did they go for EoF instead of turning that into D3 or just closing up the story with TFS
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>>567071276
>I'll never understand why the fuck did they go for EoF instead of turning that into D3 or just closing up the story with TFS
because when that was happening they were in talks with sony to get their big payout
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The layoffs...I need them...
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>>567070796
apathy
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What our opinion on poop?
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>>567071696
I don't like Marathon
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>>567071696
It's shit
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I have a PS4 and a copy of Destiny in a box about 7ft away from me as I type this, got the urge, then I remembered you have to pay for online on consoles, lost the urge.
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>>567069587
>everyones just hoping for destiny 3
show me one destiny launch that anyone liked. no one remembers that destiny launches fucking suck. destiny is fun when it has a few years of content
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>>567071620
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>>567072074
and proper onboarding
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>>567072383
STAR WARS?!?!?!?!?
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When i win a internet argument I usually unload another shot in my mara jara
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jar*
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>>567072545
expanded universe is like 75% based, if you ignore the retarded exar kun/sun crusher/emo boy i forget the name of storyline
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>>567072545
Why do they all look the same
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>>567075138
oregon moment
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>>567064526
It wasn't just grinding lost sectors anon, it was grinding A SINGULAR lost sector as >>567067040 said (edz winding cove) for hours on end
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>>567075527
That and if you wanted all the faction gear you would have to do it on your other 2 characters
What a hellish boring grind
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>>567075682
Until they made it account wide because fuck you, enjoy earning one of 3 catalysts goydian :^)
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>>567075942
You rike timegating?
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>>567075759
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I don't know how much longer I can jam...
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>>567079470
You will JAM...
You will DIG...
You will PASS feedback to the team...
You will DOT I's...
You will CROSS T's...
Or else... You will DROWN... in the DEEP...
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>>567079976
>You will PASS feedback to the team...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KmvNUYjuFQ
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>>567075759
true, any women who play the game are just men pretending to be women
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>>567075759
>hardest game ever
Even harder then takeshis challenge?
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Got this from upper management at bungie
Do what you will with this information
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>>567085992
kung pow 2 confirmed
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>>567085992
i hate the fact that LITERALLY any other explanation of the pyramid ships is better than the one we got after 10 years
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>listening to Aztecross say stupid shit about Destiny 3
>"what if we put all of humanity in the pyramid ships and leave Earth"
>actually think it's a cool idea
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>>567087573
>>567087491
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me? I'm just an average 26yr old guy.
average job, average car, average home, average life.

...except for when I log on my computer.
Because in the world of Destiny 2, I play as a Titan, defender of The Last City, protector of the Sol system, and the leader of my Fireteam where we fight back against the enemies of Humanity and its allies.

so yeah, you could say my other life is anything BUT average ;)

join me in this world, where you can forge your own path, and shape your Destiny™!
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>>567089798
You guys are the class who raises their fist behind the wall :D
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Nice glitched instance to queue into.
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>ketchcrash
Ew why would they ever bring that shitty activity back
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>>567039324
my favorite is the PvE tracked kills
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>>567039324
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>>567039324
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>>567093058
For real. They really chose that over bringing back or rather continuing the nether and court of blades which was not only new but enjoyed by the majority of the community. I miss it so much...
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>>567094387
>more disgusting seasonal slop
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>>567094387
Theoretically I really like ketch crash because it's got different possible routes. Issue is just how much it bugs.
Contrast the fucking astral well or whatever where it's 4 different objectives but they all feel so samey due to the arenas.
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>>567095140
both ketchcrasha nd astral well suck dick. court wasn't that great but it wasn't as bad as those.
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>>567094768
The only thing that sucked about it was the stupid healing pots thing. Otherwise it was enjoyable although I do remember court being somewhat frustrating on the higher difficulty.
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>>567095473
The rewards also sucked dick for being a time waster activity
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>>567095473
I actually engaged minimally that season because of the permahealth. I hate that shit in any real time game.
It wouldn't have been so bad if all the healing wasn't nerfed to death. Fuckers had me using crimson until it got nerfed.
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The Nether is the best activity Bungie has ever made
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I want to keep doing the hands in the pale heart but there's no tracker.
Do I just do overthrows until I don't get seeds anymore?
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>>567039324
It actually had a nice pvp roll with field prep (to compensate for its drawbacks) + kc or mkc, but it's def a niche 120 in part because of how it sounded. I actually think it's fun, sounds like someone is banging on a bucket with a ladle, lmao.
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>>567095910
Some weapons were bad I won't lie. I don't ever remember trying to go for the linear, glaive, smg, sidearm, or the bow so about half the pool lol. Everything else though was good or had its purpose like the sword being the go to for stronghold titans. Also the fusion was really fun with discord and destabilizing rounds.
But you know another issue were the adepts and shiny drops. You could play on the higher difficulty and still get normal drops or play them for hours and never get a shiny. I wasn't asking for handouts because look at where that got us but like damn the shiny adepts were just so rare and when you finally did get one the roll usually blew. It sucked. Dunno if it would have been too generous but it'd have been nice to have one guaranteed at the end of a higher difficulty run.
>>567096728
>It wouldn't have been so bad if all the healing wasn't nerfed to death
Agreed. They shouldn't have gone so hard on it as they did especially with how many builds revolve around it.
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https://youtube.com/watch?v=hBkACgs3ZWA
It's up
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>>567099356
>sony steam charts
Thank you sony for making it easier for us to see how much a game flopped kek
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https://youtube.com/watch?v=bznCOxRMCoU&pp=ygUJYXNtb25nb2xk
>I wonder what Mtashed is up to nowadays
>
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>>567099356
tahnit will not be happy about this....
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>>567099802
>destiny content flopper
>woke
>trying to poke the wasp nest
Many such cases
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>>567099802
Is there a single destiny content creator who isn't a retarded lefty?
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>>567099802
lmfao
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>>567099802
lol. Why did he stop doing D2 stuff again?
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>>567067779
>smug hopeposting
>in 2026
anon...
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>>567099356
seems quite anti-studio of them considering players will make a laughing stock out of a game that did poorly, but interesting feature
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>>567100521
cross
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>>567093058
R*ddit said they loved it, so it's good and wanted
Meanwhile
>Menagerie is left in the dirt
>Reckoning is in an unmarked shallow grave
>Black Armory Forges retconned out of reality through a Dreadnaught-sized plot hole contrivance
>Sundial is forgotten (and never gave the Psion cloaks it should have)
>Vex Offensive was deleted from memory
>Splicer 6 man forgotten (for good reason IMO, it was samey and I hate the aesthetic)
>a few others I'm forgetting over the years
>All patrol activities (Escalation Protocol, whatever the Arrivals one was called, etc) are gone except for the no fun allowed one on Neotroona
Bungie makes no good decisions. They make easy decisions. They said "oh they want strikes? Let's put all the battlegrounds in, they're the same thing" without considering that each set of BG was 3 of the exact same strike, and then act confused when players say the playlist is too samey.
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>>567099802
>calls him a retarded dog and a goyim in this vid
holy kek. dest*nycucks are truly locked in an endless humiliation ritual
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>>567099356
OH BABY
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>>567100647
OOF
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Mtashed bros..
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Mpregged bros..
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>Destiny 1 remaster
>Will get future updates
>All of Destiny 2 retconned
yay or nay?
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>>567104665
it's "yea or nay," read a book
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https://youtube.com/watch?v=tm58CVTsy2U
It's up
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>play Destiny 1 on Xbox using remote play since its more convenient for me
>Download software to mimic xbox inputs with keyboard and mouse
>All of it just works
>Even if sometimes I have to fight against the aim assist to kill enemies it just feels smoother to play than controller
How long until Aztecope discovers this one trick and starts playing D1 all the time using Keyboard and Mouse?
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>>567104417
2d femboy mpreg is literally my favorite thing in the entire world
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>>567104665
As cool as it sounds just to see D1 on PC, I would not be interested in seeing how current Bungie continues that world after Lightfall. And they would take the wrong kinds of advice from content creators like Datto with vague and open ended takes like
>WE NEED TO BRING THE CHALLENGE BACK TO DESTINY
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[Heartbreaking News] The playerstation playercount tracker will only track the top 10 games, so we'll never see Marathons numbers
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>>567107726
Playing KB+M on D1 earlier today, it really showed that D1 on PC would be kind of a nightmare because the game is quite heavily reliant on shooting and controllers are notorously shit for shooters and with the precision and speed on KB+M it would trivilize the game immensely. I was hitting more headshots at longer distances than I ever did when using controller and even on controller I'm out performing most players. They'd definitely make the game harder because of KB+M though because Bungie is retarded and wouldn't consider controller at all.
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>>567107729
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
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>>567108031
I guess they’d could pull a Halo on PC then where you either matchmake with users that have the same inputs or make it where controller gives you massive aim assist while mouse and keyboard users get none of that. I’m just hopeful that a theoretical PC port would mean that it would be Steam Deck compatible, because there’s not much cheating you can really do in a solved game. And it’s already known that PC users cheat a lot in Bungie’s games so…
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>>567105780
pve mode confirmed to be a panic button i guess. not that it needed confirmation
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>>567107729
WHAT THE FUCK
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>>567107729
snoy can't even do one thing right.
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>>567108903
that's already how d2 is...
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>>567069805
If they think marakek is going to cannibalize destiny they are sorely mistaken. They will have to kill destiny themselves and those pve players aren't going to switch to marashit for crumbs after feasting on Destiny. They're just going to fuck off somewhere else.
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>>567112510
There are no other PvE shooters, so the Destiny uncs will have no choice.
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>>567075759
>One of the hardest games ever made
Is this Baby Saarnit's first videogame?
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>>567112824
>Destiny shuts down
>Don't play Marathon
>Instead play any number of coop shooters like Far Far West or Deep Rock Galactic
Marakeks raped by the coop shooter genre.
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>>567112824
Warframe, Shitframe aka Soulframe, Snorederlands, probably others.
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>>567112824
I know you're joking but its funny that Bungie probably thinks that.
>These Destiny 2 fans will have no choice but to play Marathon! They won't settle for Warframe or other looter shooters, they only want our games!
Even though D2's decline lead to a jump in Fallout 76 and Div 2 players, and Destiny 2's playerbase inherently won't jump to a game that goes through story and progression resets each season. Nevermind jump towards a game that respects your time commitment even less than D2 did during its height with the Seasonal format.
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whatd we think of the new far far west patch
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datto status?
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>>567112824
These people were playing Destiny past Yass Queen, amigo, quality doesnt matter to them.
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https://www.gamesindustry.biz/the-hangover-kicks-in-after-a-decade-of-games-as-a-service-obsession-opinion

Sonybros...
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>>567112824
>>567114181
The Division
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>>567112824
Witchfire, but it's not really done yet.
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>>567116690
>Get told PVE is bad
>Marathon being a hardcore PVP only game is a good thing
>All of the most successful games of 2026 have PVE
>Bungie bends the knee to PVE after only 2 months
Interesting
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>>567117257
makes u wonder about duskbloods
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>>567112824
Division 3
Deep Rock Galactic: Rogue Core
John Carpenter’s Toxic Commando
Defect
Witchfire
Rogue Point
Starship Troopers: Ultimate Bug War
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You know I was thinking about this mythical june update that we are supposed to get for Destiny 2 and when you tally it all up it does seem like "a lot" but I don't think its a very coherent update and thats why Bungie is dead silent because its going to be a mish mash of shit.
>Pantheon 2.0 that has its own unique gear which means it has the possibility of not being fomo like the previous Pantheon but this could mean like 2 new guns like most of the shit events get
>Raid and dungeon weapon and armor update with all the weapons getting updated perks and the crafting patterns getting updated so you can craft T5 equivalents and also don't need to regrind the guns while you do for the armor but that has a set bonus for every single raid and dungeon set though you'd also have to farm dungeon guns again since they aren't craftable
>T5 stats for exotics if they update exotics you already got which should be possible they'll probably get like +1 point of goodwill with the community though Bungie is retarded and probably won't
>Raid and dungeon weekly rotation for powerful drops
>Other expected shit in the update like...
>reprised Fireteam Ops activities
>reprised Arena Ops activities
>reprised pinnacle ops activities
>Maybe a new solo ops
>New Fireteam or Arena ops activity
>New exotic mission
>New Fireteam ops, Pinnacle ops and crucible portal loot
>Small vault space increase
>Gambit gear getting updated with maybe Gambit being thrown in the portal as they did say they might make Gambit an event
>New Iron Banner armor and weapons
>Bright Engram update to make them "better"
>Some update to onslaught
There is probably shit I forgot but you tally it up and it seems like a lot but if the update even exists it just seems like they are just throwing shit at the wall in every direction and hoping that its good enough but I think a lot of the effort has gone on raids and dungeons which very few people play rather than on shit that most people play.
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It's up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5nx4xYJDXu8
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>>567117532
the visual and audio design for toxic commando are ass
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>>567026917
Soon
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>>567117982
Debatable, it's still a better game than Destiny 2 in 2026 and Marathon.
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>>567117951
Wasn't Shadow and Order also expected to drop with one (1) story mission like Ass and Irony?
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>>567116690
GAAS games have always been jewish scams, and yes that includes D1
the sooner they die the better
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>>567117257
And they went so hard on the pvp "fake" player-driven content read: content that doesn't cost them anywhere near as much to develop that there isnt even a skeleton of pve content to rely on. A handful of enemies with spongey variants and "events" so painfully simple that they only exist to make a ton of noise for pvp players to come over.
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>>567118340
Yeah that is something I forgot is that they'll also have an intro mission but I doubt it'll be anything substantial just like A&I which was just run around the tower shooting some vex for like 5 minutes and then killing a boss.
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>>567118063
okay bud have fun with your generic ue5slop art design and generic infection zombies
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marathon nowhere to be seen
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>>567120849
Check India
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>>567120849
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>>567120980
browns hate marathon
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Damn, imagine if Paul's inside source is Tyson Green himself.
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>>567122058
Not true, it sold significantly better in brown countries than white countries on steam.
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>>567122353
this is brown cope and completely fabricated. any response to this post claiming otherwise will be seen as a concession. i dare you to concede.
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my favorite month is June for Destiny because I can wear my pride ornaments and shaders ^•^
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Will he return for Pantheon 2? And will he throw a hissy fit when he gets filtered like the shitter he is like in the Last Wish raid and the tantrum he threw after losing WF Crown of Sorrow?
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>>567069805
D2 players (like myself) don't play unfinished games. This PVE is a trick to get people into sunken cost, and then they'll remove it after. Not buying it.
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>>567122602
I proved you wrong back in March
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>>567123569
The main problem is that its not even a full promise to commit, it's just an "experiment". The Marathon reddit is already full of people bitching about how it'll "unbalance the in-game economy" though, as if that's not a thing happening already with people running purple kits in Perimeter.
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>Kill Destiny 2
> Forcing Destiny 2 players to move to Marathon
The people at Bungie are fucking GENIUSES!
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>>567125035
And I bet the all experiment will amount to them upping the number of bot in the map while decreasing the number of players able to connect
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SEETHING
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>>567125434
>How dare we care about playercount in multiplayer only games!
Thanks, Mark (((Noseworthy)))
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>>567125434
He won in the end he left social media and is probably playing WoW having fun while Noseworthy seethes on twitter about the ebil chuds and their damn player counts and charts.
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>>567124156
thank you for your complete and total concession.
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>>567125434
>what do you MEAN people won’t be tricked into spending money on our dead game?
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>>567125265
it's both, one full pve and one pvp-lite
the catch is that "chill" description, which means they completely missed the point of what people were asking for
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>>567125434
Cross said he saw Noseworthy at Bungie the last time he was there, which I guess would be a Marathon thing. Imagine getting laid off and still obsessing over the retarded company that did that to you.
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I will not be buying Marathon even though they are adding a PvE mode.
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Did you guys see that the "real" PVE mode isn't coming until Season 5?
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>>567125434
Seething and butthurt.
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>>567126464
unironically, the game will be dead by that point
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>>567125742
SAAAAAAAAAAR
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>>567126464
Season 5 of Marathon will be download Destiny 2.
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>>567126464
>But Ziegler also gave a peak at what’s coming beyond season 2. While Bungie will be testing some of these new modes beginning in June, season 3 will bring a much deeper overhaul to the onboarding experience on Perimeter, alongside additional content. “Season 4 we’re focusing on building more depth into the existing extraction loop,” he wrote. “Season 5 we’re looking at bringing the whole ecosystem of (PV(P)VE) play together and evolving our weird sci-fi world in new ways.”

Holy shit lmao this game is dead. At least D2 launched with various modes, explorable live overworlds, and overally shit to do. What do you even do in Marathon aside from PVP?
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>>567125434
kek what a seething bitch
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>>567125664
luke "the scarab lord" smith is getting serviced by his harem of night elf and blood elf women
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What the fuck were they thinking with Mattermorph, holy fuck. Literally breaks my build for 30 seconds at a time.
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>>567126464
Oh my god. Sony just kill them already
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>>567125434
Mark "somebody called me a retard for equipping Doomfang Pauldrons on a Striker" Noseworthy, at it again!
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>>567126464
Season 5 just so happens to coincide with the game's 1 year anniversary. Sony basically told them that they've got a year to salvage it
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>>567125860
I do feel bad for marathon players in that the game obviously does cater to a specific niche.
People just seem to have forgotten said niche is going to be super small and super sweaty.
That's a passion project, not a cash cow, and you bled your cash cow to do it.
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>>567129432
Could also be that it's locked behind the paid Marathon expansion for the year.
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>>567126464
>>567127234
lmao it's not gonna go past s2
>>567129576
They lost all my empathy when they couldn't take criticism about the game and defaulted to cult-mode
Fuck em
>>567129845
this is the most jewish outcome and probably what they are hoping to do
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>>567129982
I think the people who defaulted to cult mode are outside that core, though.
I'm talking autists (positive) like CammyCakes. Listening to him discuss the game was a treat because he was genuinely having fun in the beta.
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>>567130135
>CammyCakes
I will never not find it funny how every time I would watch his videos he is talking all this abstract esoteric bullshit about Destiny 2's PvP when its just a casual arcade shooter experience much like Halo. It was just never that indepth and I think CammyCakes kept coping all the way until whenever before he just gave up lol. Now he is busy getting raped in Marathon probably and start talking up big game about that when its not that competitive because its an extraction shooter built upon raping shittier geared players or just shooting retards in the back.
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>>567132515
Yeah, anon, he's clearly autistic. In the same way melee is a children's party game that people have obsessed over for 25 years. He found depth that was unintended and enjoyed focusing on that.
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>>567126464
It's just like lord of the rings guys, it's gonna end with some guy killing himself
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=a6zlsL1_AGA

Marty won
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>>567135751
I'm a simple man, I see Marty, I click on whatever it is.
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>>567135751
>Mike Salvatori coming back for The Marty O'Donnell Show
Holy based
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>>567135751
based, this is a tacit support of marty's politics.
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>>567129432
>Sony basically told them that they've got a year to salvage it
bungo will be dead within a year. the only thing sony is telling them is to lay off employees until the studio closes
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>>567125434
(((noseworthy)))
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>Already tempering expectations
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>>567137765
>folks
Yeah I would temper expectations for a PVE mode in a game with almost non-existent pve content.
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>>567137765
>they're afraid
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>Marathon general is already dead
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>>567139494
It's mostly us
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>>567137765
Its only been 3 months lmao
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>>567138295
>Be feared.
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>>567139740
>PS: Marathon art style is peak.
Unc learned some gen a slang
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>>567139494
haters kept it alive, but now, we don't care
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tahnit status?
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>>567140084
Raped
Gay
Indian
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>>567139494
Did it die (again)? I rarely pop in there to check on them because every time I do it fills me with untold amounts of nihilism for gaming as a whole.
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>>567137765
>>567139740
Why do these people have to be so obnoxious, cult-like and downright hostile to Destiny players? Bungie also somewhat supports this indirectly, it's like they want their game to die.
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>>567140143
Because we're chuds and they need to own us so Kamala can be president in 2028. I wish I was joking or being hyperbolic, it's all political. Anyone that likes Bungie games in 2026 is a poltical millenial or gen x faggot and uses this slop as a platform to push their agenda.
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>>567140280
I just like that cross gave his ultimate chudtimatum. I don't think I'll even return to play the game I just would find it funny if they're forced to work on Destiny again like an abused housewife.
https://files.catbox.moe/ilmhk0.mp4
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>>567107254
when he streams d1 he puts it through frame gen so it plays like 60fps(with a bit of delay)
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>>567140280
I think you're right. Every single person I've seen shill marathon is a lefty, with a disturbing amount having troon flags in their bios
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>>567140143
>Bungie also somewhat supports this indirectly
Because they are trying to push the overton window for how little content they can get away with for a game and forcing people to accept seasonal wipes as a form of capping power. Destiny requires content updates. Marakeks cope about getting a map variation and another gun.
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>>567141097
>Destiny requires content updates. Marakeks cope about getting a map variation and another gun.
True. Bungie since leaving Activsion; hell, Microsoft, has always been about delivering the minimal viable product. The worst map for Marathon but at night is going to save the game
? Fuck anyone that eats that slop up.
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Music is so cool
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It's over...
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Projected max concurrent player count for all platforms.
Marathon: 18724
Destiny 2: 50326
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>>567145058
AAAAAAAIIIIIIIEEEEEEEEEEEE
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>>567113321
>friendslop
ick
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so the next update is definitely cancelled or delayed since they still need all fags on deck to make flopathon pve right?
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>>567147896
if this happens dmg gonna get some pizzas sent to his house, which he considers the holocaust
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This shit is embarrassing, I can't believe the narrative got any praise at all
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>>567149881
cringe that they covered the feet after the molting
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Also what it their obsession with the "incoming call" thing?
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>>567151010
tell your ghost to put some clothes on
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>>567031729
>quit D2 shortly after Lightfall
sigh, whose self insert is this
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>>567152485
some dude that turned this chick down
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What destiny related individual would you basement?
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>>567031729
Act Ma'am
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Is this skybox reused? Looks familiar
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Well that was a drag. I'll have to read a summary on what happened cause I stopped trying to pay attention halfway through.
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>>567031729
This game is so fucking ugly and dated looking.
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>>567158170
trvke
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How the fuck they'll justify PvE as a main dish in Marathon?
Enemies are walking cardboard tanks that are easy to cheese and just serve as easily ignored distraction. They pretty much only here to make noise for forced PvP interactions.
There are no fun little interactions like in ARC, no zonal damage, which can cripple PvE bots, no variety in types, bots in Marathon all visually look like carbon copies of each other, just a big Lego looking dude slowly walking towards you.
They ain't gonna pull out myriad of new enemy types and polish up existing ones, or make Runner bots, so what the fuck is the goal behind PvE mode?
Is there long term grinds, like making your hideout in Tarkov or ball busting quest chains that take forever to do? No?

It's looking grim ngl.
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>>567158513
Trust the plan.
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>>567156804
EoF campaign felt like watching paint dry. I unironically wanted to kill myself while going through forced little ball mechanics.
Just buncha annoying busywork, all to artificially pad up campaign. Yeah, you can't just shoot and punch everything to death, you must jump through the hoop Guardian, chop chop.
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>>567158513
ARC's also added
>Vaporizer
>Comet
>Turbine
Since launching the game.
Marathon's literally added nothing. The Compiler doesn't even count. There's no fucking PvE aspect to this game to speak of, the entire game is LITERALLY based solely around PvP. I played a couple matches in Marathon where I only got to shoot one person and it was fucking boring and gay and just a walking sim.
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>>567149881
even old D1 armour look lame and gay when paired with nuBungie aesthetics. Her model is also artificially stretched, it just looks plain weird.
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>almost kills your game
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the past 2 months have BLASTED by
it honestly feels like only a week has passed.
probably the most fun ive had doing literally nothing.
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>>567159480
I kneel, Panoptes-kun.
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>kills your game
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>>567158170
Mostly yeah, still has its moments though
>>567158837
I could not believe just how many instances there were of "survey the room and find the secret hole". So much dev time wasted on that shit.
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>>567160510
Picture unrelated.
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>>567160232
why did he do it
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>>567161187
hes a patsy
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>>567160232
he is literally a proto-chud, he literally fits the look
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>>567161940
idk he's got that male feminist look to him you know
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legit why does reddit get angry when you talk about destiny 1 ?
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>>567163219
They can't refute nostalgiafags (strawman, not everybody played D1), so they just can't help themselves but get angry when faced with absolute mogging. Being powerless will do it to ya.
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>>567163219
Current bungie devs and their close circles all post or moderate on reddit.
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I honestly cant even envision a Destiny 3 let alone a continuation of Destiny 2 unless they pour an unremarkable amount of resources into overhauling 2. And this doesnt even consider how widly shit all the live service seasonal crap has been to the game.
D2 just feels like a fragmented game and im tired to people not addressing how fucked it is. Seasonal content, flipflopping on vendors and grinds, along with getting rid of actual staying power content has made this game trashy
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>>567140280
>>567140850
If you browse personal accounts of Bungie employees, they'll be seething 24/7 about first world problems, blm, muh evil drumpf and supporting democrats about yet another current thing.
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>>567165476
oregon cities are fucked
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>>567166879
You know what else is fucked?
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fucking marathon man they really tried killing destiny for this
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>>567166879
Sure, but bungie is in bellevue WA.
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>>567173262
That entire coast is fucked.
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>>567173321
Every coast is fucked my man.
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Remember when Edge of Slop released, and it was so bad that the shills clung to the story of all things to try and push as good
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>>567173262
may bad but same
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i want to tongue punch Mara Sov's fart box
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>>567174114
>non-linear campaign
>you can complete most missions in any order
>bungo just had the linear sequence removed
>do one mission
>ikora says she finally trusts lodi
>do another mission
>ikora speaks as though you met lodi for the first time
>thinks he is suspicious and withholds information
>all dialogues imply there was a certain sequence
>you just can't see it in the game
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>>567178785
>>do one mission
>>ikora says she finally trusts lodi
>>do another mission
>>ikora speaks as though you met lodi for the first time
>>thinks he is suspicious and withholds information
>>all dialogues imply there was a certain sequence
>>you just can't see it in the game
just one of the reasons cyberpunk 2077 is a dogshit game
it ruined my immersion constantly
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>>567179519
>all dialogues imply there was a certain sequence
>you just can't see it in the game
Not just that but you can't actually work out the actual sequence, she just goes from finding him trustworthy to asking us to be prepared to shoot him in the back of the head
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the future is brazilian
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>>567170292
It would actually be ironic if even after all the time they put into trying to turn the game around, D2 still ends up having a higher playercount.
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>>567181485
it will
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Marathon? Dead
Bungshills? Broken
Future? Grim
Doom? Eternal
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Road map?
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Forgotten
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overdelivery
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team is JAMMING
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I can't believe Star Wars made the game even worse...who could have predicted this?
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>>567182914
Every single person that watched the content trailers before the launch except those in tahnit-level denial
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>>567182914
literally everybody
the prequels were kinda bad but they are masterpieces compared to disney
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They're really going to turn a game that has 3 enemies into a pve game
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>>567185797
Bungie is so smart.
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>>567185795
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>>567185795
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>>567185795
Do it
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>>567185795
Three weeks with no tweet police walk into DMG's apartment to do a welfare check and find him hanging from a noose with this playing on loop in the background
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6NQm7jZFXwc
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>>567185795
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>>567186690
I'm surprised he hasn't been sperging out over Chud The Builder.
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>>567183095
episode 1 and 3 are good
which now that i think about it is odd
no second star wars film has ever been good
2 bad
5 bad
8 bad
hmm
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Crossover status?
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I CANT JAM
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vgh....
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>>567191376
taken king sucks
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>>567191376
Activision really was the key to making Destiny good.
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>>567191973
>t.
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>>567192246
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Im gonna rape dmg so hard by the time im done with him his anal prolapse is gonna look like a big floppy poop noodle
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>>567196246
>poop
poop noodle*
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I dont know why I cant say "pool" but whatever bits ruined killing myself
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>double down on all of your bad changes
>be lazy as possible
>only listen to content creators
>make all of your playtesters content creators
>dont even listen to any of the feedback from tarkov players you invited to improve your game
>refuse to stop developing your shit even after being told it doesnt work
>release a failed product and now have to go against your core philosophy just to make some cash back
>refuse to elaborate on your mistakes and continue spewing your generic corpo slop responses
What did they mean by this? What is their endgame?
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>>567187373
5 is widely regarded as the best tho, and i agree. 3 certainly was better than 2, it had its hype moments. my complaints about 1 are mainly rape of the lore, the CGI not being quite there, and jar-jar, otherwise i really like it. especially the episode 1 soundtrack is a fucking masterpiece
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A whole day at the poop for just 30 cents
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>>567197817
for the billionth time the endgame was getting an insane payout from the sony acquisition and then dipping which already occurred like a year ago
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>>567181112
There are other missions where he is suspicious, then we do something and make him talk after helping the locals, and then Ikora calms down a bit and says we can start trusting him. The sequence is there, but broken, and with multiple arcs (Aion/Orin/Ikora), if you play the campaign for the first time, you have no idea what is what.
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>>567197850
>rape of the lore
nigga...
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>>567200116
are you just pretending to forget how many people fucking hated midichlorians
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>>567198084
IIRC the payouts, or at least the employee retention bonus is supposed to be paid in full during this summer. But considering how poorly Bungie's products have been selling as of late, the impairment charges meaning that Bungie's assets are now greatly devalued, I don't think they'll get anywhere near what they were promised.
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>>567182914
>Aunor looks nothing like how she was described in lore
>Praxic Order retconned into being Jedi for some reason
>Dredgens retconned into being sith for some reason
>Apparently they always had lightsabers even though they never showed up in any previous lore
>literally redid the forsaken outlaw plot but significantly worse
>my god slaying immortal Guardian had to impress a bunch of literal who mob bosses
>The Vex were once agian made even lamer and gay
The only thing I liked was the Praxic blade.
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>>567200301
by your logic the discovery of bacteria and germ theory raped the prior concept of hygiene and disease?
there is nothing wrong with midichlorians
>the force is in all LIVING things
just say you prefer being ignorant
science = gay and dumb, mysteries = cool and based
midichlorians literally changes nothing
i get sick when i dont wash my hands and i get sick when i dont wash my hands because germs is literally the same thing.

people hated it because it didnt adhere to 20 years of THEIR fan theories.
lucas since before episode 4 even came out had the whills and midichlorians BAKED IN
he wrote that shit into the story from the start but it wasnt brought up in the OT because its not relevant to the story
it IS relevant to the story of the PT.
if midichlorians were in the OT literally nothing changes about them and no one cares.
most people just dont want to learn more about shit they learnt in the first 20 ish years of their life.
too much time had passed and "the force" had cemented itself in peoples mind as being a certain way, it never was actually that way but they dont care, it is the way it is and thats its.

its not a fault of the story or george as a writer.
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>>567201758
yeah i didn't read this past the first sentence before hiding the post

you are a retard
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>>567201423
that's the employee part. the C-suite part cleared in 2025
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>>567201990
>yeah i didn't read
i know because then you would have to update your knowledge which you think is rape
which means you might just be the most raped person in this general
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>>567201990
nta but you uncs are literally withering away as we speak
prequels were cool 2000s star wars games and movies were cool cope and mald your last few hairs left.
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>>567202067
I cant wait to see how many devs leave then once they get their payday.
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>>567203732
well, sony is closing in on that FY end
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>>567203156
>stop talking about bad things guys
>just consume things you like and show others that it is good (while ignoring any criticism as "fake fans" or "grifters")
>if you don't ignore them, vaguepost about them by saying everything but their names to describe them and then insist they're bad people
Gradually I began to hate them.
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or wait, they did it already? is JP different? i can't fuckin remember and can't be arsed to look it up

anyway, clock's ticking on the remaining like 700 people or however many it is now
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>>567203945
Apparently Bungie only has 850 people left after 2024. Which is no insignificant sum either, I want to say that was more than the amount of people they had around D1 maybe?
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Bungie is the darksydephil of gaming development
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>>567204616
i am pretty sure they had less than 500 at that point
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>>567204617
DSP was never good, bungie was
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>>567204770
Dsp is good at street fighter thoughbeit
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What went so horribly wrong
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>>567207176
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>>567207176
your judaism
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>>567207176
my disillusionment with judaism
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>>567207176
Jews
DEI
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>>567207176
commies
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>>567208905
>>567209062
>>567207997
BASED
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I forget how lucked in they are, sometimes.
Still dunno where this luminescent seed I got goes, I cracked all 3 of the big red hands in each location so I'm just wandering.
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>>567209973
There is no way to get rid of extra seeds, and there is no use for additional ones if you've done all the hands in all 3 zones.
It's on the list of "Top Issues Being Investigated" and has been since it was initially reported as a known issue
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>>567210461
Oh nice.
Do you get anything for cracking the hands then or is it just a pat on your own back?
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I didn't raise my hand.
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Say it.
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>>567210512
For doing all of them? No, you get nothing. Not even 5 triumph score.
They just each gave you one of those temporary buff things that you probably forgot even exists
The Pale Heart was a massive mix of half-good designs with horrible execution combined with a horrible starting premise of it being a solo destination. TFS does not deserve the good reviews it was given in the moment, it was just "better than Lightfall" in the campaign itself.
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>>567210709
I like Bungie
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>>567210972
i really disliked how the campaign was just character arc slop again, and most of it was about zavala of all people having a crisis of faith then deciding it doesn't matter anyway (lol), the west coastoid religion hate absolutely dripped from it. very offputting.
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>>567210972
>>567209973
>>567210461
I liked the in-destination mods, they were sometimes really amusing to play with, but they also came with a massively retarded idea of expiring every once in a while so that you had to regrind Pale Heart activities again to get them back. The infinitely dropping seeds are dumb as well.
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>>567210972
No triumph is kind of sad considering its like dozens of overthrows. Ah well.
I think the destination is fantastic, even if it's just one big corridor.
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>>567210972
Yeah Final Slops reviews were 100% Bungiedrones grossly inflating how good it was for 2 main reasons
>Desperate to make anything seem good after Shitefall
>The "end" of 10 years of Destiny
In reality the story was marvel tier garbage, one of the final cutscenes was Zavala literally standing there giving a speech while thousands of enemies just stand and watch
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>>567211776
It also could be that they're desperate to make the game look so good because they don't want their friends at Bungie to be laid off. That's the other reason I could think of for why Edge of Fate was given 6's out of 10s despite the campaign truly being bad even by Destiny standards.
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>>567211437
The total retcon of Zavala's entire arc in Haunted really set me the wrong way; we build off of all the character backstory introduced then, but we conveniently forgot all the actual development he gained alongside it. It was badly done and should have been focused more on Targe's death instead of being a rerun of the same story beats. Or if it were more about (you), the Guardian, instead of about the radio jobbers who tell you what to do, that'd have been even better, and could have closed those plotholes about the player character instead of looping story beats from not that long ago (at the time).
The only reason TFS campaign was so character-focused on the original Vanguard leaders was for that "end of the game" Marvel trope, and it's all the worse for it.
>>567211603
If they were a one-time unlock it'd be fine, but that isn't enough CONTENT so they had to be a grind to get it again every 24 hours so no one bothered.
It's bad mobile game content design principles.
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>>567211776
The campaign was probably the second best one they've put out.
The individual level gimmicks actually felt really neat. Simple stuff like not being able to jump in the sandstorm made you evaluate the level geometry through unique lenses.
The writing was awful for everyone who wasn't cayde and uldren, though.
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>>567213468
>that isn't enough CONTENT
This, and the retarded grind for exotic class items and Ergo Sum copies. They scream for being craftable, and Bungo are capable of making perk unlocks into an actual items you can find in secrets, but they opted for RNG on top of RNG.
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>>567207831
i disagree, vanilla destiny 2 was probably the most damaging event and forsaken was just a fluke
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>>567213468
i liked haunted at the time well enough but they never went anywhere from it and just infinitely regressed the arcs even though it made no sense
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Please log in and play D2. You love Destiny, you love Bungie, you don't want them to suffer.
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>>567214520
that'd mean i'd have to buy the latest expansion which i'm not doing
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>>567214520
Bungie doesn't love us though, otherwise they wouldn't have acted the way they did when they left Activision.
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>>567214520
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>>567214520
>please login
No
>and play destiny 2
Hell no
>You love Destiny
Destiny 1 yeah
>you love Bungie
Lmao no
>you don't want them to suffer.
I want them raped gaped and fired
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d2 looked a lot better before the beyond light lighting/shader changes.
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Anon looked a lot better before he let himself go by eating mindlessly.
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>>567214035
That was my point, I agree
Haunted was "okay" as it was, but Bungie never did anything with it and seemingly forgot any character growth happened; same with Crow's "I am actually Uldren" arc that happened in TFS, he did it once before offscreen after Savathun gave him Uldren's memories in whatever season that was.
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>>567215367
this but i've lost 15 lbs recently
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>>567215745
better not have lost your fat ass
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>>567214520
ok
delete portal first
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>>567214991
>missed season of dawn
glim
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More like season of yawn
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Why do the Vex keep getting fucked over? They feel like everyone's bitch at this point.
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>>567215367
that was very hurtful anon i hit 30 and 4 months later i went from a stick to a potbelly
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I am...the ultimate indian....
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Saaarrr..
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Was Bungie lying over their reason for moving from Destiny to Destiny 2? A few years ago there was showcase circulating around for Destiny on PC (Through Emulation) and despite the game being visually buggy; what stood out was how everything loaded exceptionally well. Look at games like FFXIV or even Elder Scrolls Online, keep in mind came out the same year that Destiny did and they managed to overcome the problems with their games both of which had infinitely worse issues performance and engine limitations.
I guess what I'm trying to say is it just seems as if there was an ulterior motive to scorch earth and start again, and their obsession with burying Rise of Iron was always interesting because RoI was the last piece from that old Bungie era and I think that many of those devs and designers who worked on Destiny before release and on post launch content were already out the door by 2016-2017 so it would make sense for why nubungie had this weird chip on their shoulder because ultimately they weren't apart of that era and saw it as a inferior product to what they were eventually going to make.
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>>567222086
I think this is why the initial reactions to D2 scarred nuBungie. It's like they were under the impression that their version of Destiny was going to be better and it completely backfired.
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>>567222086
In the same way most leftists want you to believe that prior to modern times everyone was a latent homosexual anarchist repressed by their society that rewrote history to hide "what people were really like", bungie wants you to believe that everyone hated D1 and rewrote history to hide "what players actually hated". Bungie is full of leftists, by the way.
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>>567108903
PvP matchmaking in Destiny 2 works with platforms and not with inputs. PC players match with PC players regardless of inputs they use, MnK will play together with controllers in the same matchmaking pool. Consoles only match with consoles. Stadia (when it existed, lol) matched in the console pool. The only exception is a premade fireteam of PC players with a console crossplay teammate, they will also match in the PC pool.



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