Previous: >>567018939>NewsAgent Record | Normahttps://www.hoyolab.com/article/44852924Agent Record | Velinahttps://www.hoyolab.com/article/44852574Agent Record | Pyroishttps://www.hoyolab.com/article/44836786Season 3 Teaserhttps://youtu.be/ew9nVnCl8AY (EN)https://youtu.be/L5DEAV17cYY (JP)Version 2.8 Special Programhttps://youtu.be/UaqNm1F6-rI>Newest Trailer/Teaser/Character Demohttps://youtu.be/jeH3xLmbnFo (EN)https://youtu.be/VtO9fprNtp4 (JP)https://youtu.be/_FGukgxZtE4 (EN)https://youtu.be/nKLofeK_EGo (JP)https://youtu.be/pw_-QPXzlSA (EN)https://youtu.be/cCpcAMX8riE (JP)>Upcoming Events for 2.8https://zenless.hoyoverse.com/en-us/news/163836All-New Program 05/05 - 06/16Operation: Save Bootopia 05/07 - 06/15Ultimate Verdict Trial 05/13 - 06/01Advanced Bounty: Area Patrol 05/20 - 05/25"En-Nah" Into Your Lap 05/27 - 06/16"Spirit" Artist's Notebook 05/27 - 06/15A look Into Ridu's Legends 06/01 - 06/15Good Morning, Roscaelifer 06/06 - 06/17Data Bounty: Combat Simulation 06/10 - 06/15Return to Ridu: Together in a New Chapter 06/06 - 07/17>Redeemable Codeshttps://zenless.hoyoverse.com/redemptionZENLESSGIFTZZZ28HERO>Resources and Useful Linkshttps://rentry.org/zzzlinkshttps://rentry.org/ZZZ-Friendshttps://rentry.org/ZZZ-Guilds>/zzz/ OP Pastebin (use this if making new thread)https://pastebin.com/PzbMf13P
I want to Alice
Not using the faggot thread.
supercute & supercanon <3
As much as I love the idols, I don't want more anomaly agents to want stun windows
I need her
Another easy shiyu for the girls
>
>>567059428Based obol/shungus+dialyn user
Not using wormed OPs
>>567059428>26k with full Anby teamWhat are you doing wrong? I beat that with Harumasa
>>567059428I used seed+cissia to clear that one.
>>567059656Not having Anby's and Orphie's wengines...
Shitposters will waste their captchas on vandalized threads to bump them so this means the bnnuy thread will be comfy for a while
Kissing Promimi!
>>567059786I'd let her pet my chalky.
MANIFESTING M2W1 BILLY AND ORPH WITH NO 50 OR 75 LOSSES AND ALL AT EARLY PITY!!
>>567059712No longer based Obol squad user
>>567059428thats pretty rough pal
>>567059851I lost 50/50 on both sanby and orphie I didn't have enough pulls to get their wengines...
Burnice is so underrated
Even number = drop a 5 tenners for PromeiaOdd number = nyot rollingI already have Bibi and Yidhari
Hacker posture
>>567059829No horny! Only cute things with promimi like cuddling and kissing!
What happened to the threads?
I hope the new endgame mode is more fun than new Shiyu Defense. I don't really like Shiyu anymore.
>>567060001Not rolling
>>567060001Your loss.
>>567060180Yeah I really dont like the 5th stage of Shiyu
>>567060180It's made for F2Poors since you don't need to own agents to play.
Fire Support for Anomaly
>>567060478That's a physical dps, xir
is it me or none of the other characters n 3.0 preview look like they're wind element other then velina
>>567060162The LighterKEK aka the anti-Wise schizo is having a melty.
>>567060647sigrid is wind attack
>>567060439Why is Zhao spying?
>>567060710people have pointed out her spear has frost symbol
>>567060745I'd love to play as Punished Pompei
>>567060803That could mean anything, she could be electric attack for all we know
>>567060647I'd imagine Remielle would be wind
>>567060745Gacha players can't fathom good boss designs so their brain defaults to "good designs = playable"
Sigrid is Ice Attack. Someone posted a leak a couple of days ago.
>>567060936leaks point special ether
Anyone else noticing they've completely stopped making "Defenders"?
we're in the other thread?
>>567060647Roxy but yeah, there's probably, like, 2-3 units not shown that'll end up being wind because if you're inundated with new wind options you'll feel less compelled to pull the one that's right in front of you.
>>567061116Not much room for them when every content revolves around killing enemy fast.
>do the vr event>astra-eve-nicole>CRITICALMATTERTHERE'SNOTHINGBETTER!SORRY, NOTHING GETS PAST ME!>CRITICALMATTERTHERE'SNOTHINGBETTER!SORRY, NOTHING GETS PAST ME!>CRITICALMATTERTHERE'SNOTHINGBETTER!SORRY, NOTHING GETS PAST ME!>CRITICALMATTERTHERE'SNOTHINGBETTER!SORRY, NOTHING GETS PAST ME!
shifu doesnt care about shill
>unlock deadly assault>see thisWhat do? How much money will it cost to play?
>>567060756that's not for you to know
>>567059375Well she's a whore so just wait your turn
Why is t***** trying to kill our general
>567061183>567061501
>>567061345Endgame mode. Don't pass the element check and attacker/anomaly/rupture check? Don't bother.
>>567061116Anon… zhao is defender
>33k on first two stages>only 29k on the 3rd one with m0s0 Shifu team>no Aria>first time I can't easily get 100k on SD
>>567061345https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJFNdMMRkpo you got this bro
I hate weighted stats>I hate weighted statsI hate weighted stats>I hate weighted statsI hate weighted stat>I hate weighted statsI hate weighted stats>I hate weighted stats
>>567061468Don't call my slutwife a whore!
>>567061345Click on smart recommendations and it will assemble teams for you from the characters that you have(ignoring their level and disks) this can probably give you an idea of what to do and who to level. The minimum requirements are 2 well-built teams or 3 ok teams so you can get either 3/3/0 or 2/2/2, since polychrome rewards end at 6 stars
>>567061549Yeah, late game is trash.>>567061715Nah, i will not touch this ever again. 9 fucking S rank agents required? Sorry, not intersted.
>>567061794Worst part is, Genshin has a mechanic where you can weigh down 2 stats on rerolls so you have a better chance of getting your specified Substat
>Homos self-contain xhemselves in the vandalized thread>Real thread is slow, comfy with anons helping each other and 0 shitflinging
>>567062215You called?
I'm worried about how badly 2.6 and 2.7 did once you subtract out all the bonus sales from the alt skins.
complainng about men is the biggest trannoid tell you can express
Rata fags are still 1:8 in the good to dogshit post ratio, that one was okay
>>567062050Nice bait
>>567061345Nothing. Just slowly build up your team. Been f2p since day 1 and passed all of them. With 3.0 coming out a lot of characters will be powercrept and new wind meta will be available to roll. And even if you can't full rewards, still play it to get good at memorizing enemy attack patterns and a feel for character buff and stun rotations.
God looks like I'm going to actually have to fix my Yixuan and Miyabi Disks for this SD...
>>567062383Getting in, losing, and calling it impossible wasn't creative at all.
>>567062580There's 5k free points in that node that even a lvl1 team could get, the bait is very low effort.
>got the faggot dog instead of promeia
>cant use promimi until level 40 goypass because I need fusion compilerBUT I WANT IT NOW
>>567060745I only like Pompei and Vesper honestly.
>>567062694Sounds based to me.
>>567062694sorry anon, but the other thread is for you
Why is zzz so dead compared to hsr?
>>567062648But i didn't know that. >>567062412Nothing in my box doesn't seem to be worth raising for this mode at the moment. That's certain. Getting all those s ranks fast so i can participate will be tough.
>>567062901hsr you can just auto and let it play itself, you have to put a bit of effort into zzz
Drop a lit cigarette in a forest!!!!!
>>567062978Bosses on DeadAss are level 70, the lower the level of your agents the less damage they deal. Level 60 agents are a must for DA. Focus on leveling up instead, DA polys are like 4 pulls I think, you can miss this cycle
>>567062978Cissia - pulchra - rina looks like an ok team especially if you have m1 rina
>>567059962This is legit?
>>567062884>>567062885I straight up left a ticket saying either remove him from my account or refund my polychromes, I will not play a male agent (other than Billy).
>>567062901their SEA posters are much more active during the hours EU is going to bed and NA isnt awake or heading to work.we have less third world posters
Is burnice poorfag bibi?
>>567063396>we have less third world postersfewer, not less, my thirdie friend
>>567063329
>>567063329>either remove>or refund polysAlbert and Einstein ass post
Fufu poster found dead
>>567061116Hard to make them in a DPS-first game. Caesar sorta had a jack of all trade niche, but then got powercrept.I would say Support are worse due to effectively being stat sticks with minimal gameplay value.
>>567063536it's a gamble but I have to try
>>567062901Anniversary vs dead end season patch. Have you seen HSR during 1.6, 2.6, 2.7 and 3.8?
>>567063329Only white poster in this thread
>>567063621Post the rejection response once you get it.
>>567063838If they reject it, I am uninstalling and reveiwbombinh
>>567063898Okay, still post it.
>>567058718You are too powerful Alice. I just figured I'd meme try you against the new phys resistance ice anomaly shill boss...
Shan't be recycling the wormfaggot thread, stop bumping it
Had to sac anby because there is no way to prevent that "tsunami", but at least i survived to the end. People who enjoy this play the game for way too long.
Fufu's here!
>>567063483semantics my jewish greatest ally "we have less than we did before" is correct
G-guys!? I found my Sunna in this strange situation.https://files.catbox.moe/e8oaur.jpg
G-guys!? I found my Sunna in this strange situation.https://files.catbox.moe/fhqxvs.mp4
>>567064061cry louder brown
How would you interpret this?
Atwo designs really carried this game
>>567064272Asian penises are so small wow I was that size when I in elementary school
>>567064272>Sunna with boobies.DISGUSTING
Coffee is not a must But a calm and relaxed mindset sure is!
>>567064272Inc antilolipedo melty, why did you post this?
>>567064318who the fuck is atwo
>>567063329>being this assmad about having a male in your accountI dont know whats more pathetic, being this insecure, or not knowing you're actually suppressing your own subconsious homo feelings
>>567064543one of the game's official artists nigga
both of those are trannies with tiny cocks dont click its not cute
G-guys!? I found senior Fufu in this strange situation.https://files.catbox.moe/2r3b11.jpg
>>567064575proof?
I'm pretty sure I know what this is even without clicking
>>567064272>both asian trannies have micropenisesor is that average?
Where does New Eridu's Beef come from?Unlike Chickens and Fish, Cows are known for being rather larger and need lots of space. A-are we eating Cow Thirens?
ZZZ sure attracts a lot of male cosplayers...
>>567060539Would roll if cool animations and good gameplay
>>567064680look up zzz artbook, it's him waterkuma and tz bard
>>567064840This Rina was so much better...
Furora batto ga dekai
>>567062726Weeping Gemini?
>>567064840Sex with this ellen
>>567064131... Just hit the thing really hard
>>567064902Nobody but retards want Cynthia expies.
>>567065107There's a Honkai character named Cynthia?
>>567063621This is bait because GODwei added the possibility to hide m*les from your agent select screen, as white heterosexual males are the target demographic
>>567064840Damn both this Rina and Ellen mog the in game ones.
>>567060745god I fucking love Isolde, we truly were robbed
>>567060647she's the only Wind character in the game. I assume eventually they'll release a Wind A-rank just because zero access to an entire element is unhealthy, and Pyrois is already Ether Attacker. Remielle is Ether Anomaly (and likely pairs with Pyrois for story synergyIf they weren't retarded they'd change Soukaku to be A-rank Wind because her mechanic is literally called fucking Vortex but we all know thats not happening
>>567065352>>567064902fuck no!
>>567064318Absolute top tier design-wise for me>Miyabi, Yuzuha, Billy>Anby, Trigger>Jane Doe>BibiTZ Bard's designs are good but I can't say that a lot of them are top tier, I love Cissia to death, but her clothes are barely it.Honorable mentions >Anton, Manato, Orf-E, Lucy, Hugo, Nicole
>>567065264Type "cynthia" in jewgle images and see for yourself
>>567065383>her left eye has a scar
>>567060745generic dude designs would never be playableisolde could absolutely be a playable character based on design but she was killed off. we could get a clone with the same look as an Agent easily though.chinks are racist and don't pull for clankers
>>567065429Wow, fucking Hottie
>>567065429Hmmm...
>>567065568I hate that every short hair character needs a rat tail or the like
>>567061116every Defender could have their class and Wengine changed to Support and the game would only improve.There's a world where mihomo actually made tankiness and attrition/healing valuable and team comps had to care about defenders and healers, but we don't live in it and everything is a meta slave timed DPS race and they've gone wild with i-frames and rewarding parries with even more stun/damage, so a "Tank" class has no reason to exist
>>567065678Anby?
what boo for promibibi team bros ? I use yubibi nanbibi and bibian
>>567065383Looking forward to the mod that's gets rid of the dark parts and tie from here character model
>>567065782I forgot Anby existed....
>>567065383>If they weren't retarded they'd change Soukaku to be A-rank Wind because her mechanic is literally called fucking Vortex but we all know thats not happeningBut that mean erasing the only ice A-rank...Btw, Sigrid kinda looks good imo.
>>567065568I swear ZZZ does not understand their audience, people would have rolled for a hot military babe like this.Also those who say Isolde is our Signora downplay how much they teased Signora. She had a full on custom designed Catalyst for her, that would be like giving Isolde a W-Engine effect to make you think Isolde was playable
>>567062726the calcs I saw had gemini as like less than 10% worse than her signature, having just m1 is literally a bigger dps boost than sig.Anomaly has by far the best f2p weapons of any class, just use gemini
>>567065383With those long ass legs what do you think this Uma's stats would be.and how many crowns would she get?I'm thinking Late Surger, Turf, Long
>>567065828> The genie's fingers snap> The mod now also gives her different proportions that you will hate> No alternative is found / made with the default proportions
>>567065917Yeah like two people, she was boring as fuck bro.
>>567065849shame on you
>>567062901hsr is an autobattler with no gameplay which are always the most cesspit communities because nobody is busy playing the game so they just shitpost and screech at each other 24/7
>>567065678
>>567065986So is Shungus yet people rolled for her
>>567066042With the release of Evanescia I have so many good teams I can genuinely no longer play the game because I did everything already pretty much. ZZZ is the one that makes me go to bed happy at night because I still find some of the content difficult. I love HSR's story though.
Any tips to deal with Dark Rebellion of the Scorched Horizon? He keeps halving my attack
>>567065553>sigrid is hugo's sisterBroes...
Aaa!!!
>>567065986>Doesn't like gap moe of serious military woman who likes to play with kid toys
>>567063973>>567063838They didn't do what I wanted, I am now going to Sony to force a refund, it worked for helldivers 2 and FF7R.
is this hoe needed for the wind hag?
>>567066531No
>>567065986trigger is the definition of hot military babe and is extremely popular.
>>567066531More like the opposite really but there will probably be more separate options for both in S3
>>567066526Sure, dude.
Shame they don't tell you how fucking SHORT the stun time is before you do a battle. Not redoing the first fight, but this team ain't good when the boss is barely stunned and already recovered...Could've just used Seed then or something.
>>567066645Trigger is also nearly topless.
>>567065968Absolutely incorrect.https://gametora.com/umamusume/characters/112101-durandal
>>567065968Sprinter. Probably Front.
>>567066760>miyabi is our calstone>sigrid will be our durandal
>>567066716People like Trigger for her ass though
>>567066645>>567066480and she also likes to play with toys (to entertain children)She is the most motherly woman in the game.
>>567066645Trigger is actually hot though. Isolde is not.
>>567066716isolde is nopan with hip cutouts. she doesn't have her tits out but neither does evelyn or nagi or miyabi and they're still liked.
What if you had a Zhao gf??
My Miyabi is barely hanging on, I'm afraid of the future (I'm skipping Promeia).
>>567066918It sure is, butt the fact that their is only a chestplate between her tits and the world is pretty damn hot.
>>567067042Ahh the moving the goalpost response. Best method of telling us not to take you seriously.
>>567067131*there isThe coom mind broke my already flawed english....
>>567067130bro your nangong yu???
Shiyuan
>>567066531maybe
promeia is my only limited S-rank. I plan to pull for Velina as her partner, but I don't know who to use as 3rd besides just ulting with nicole before stun for extra defense shred
>Half a month left until Season 3 livestream
>>567066760>>567066907>Sigrid Sprint/Mile Turf End>Calstone MiyabiNow I want to see rest of the zzz chars as umas and their stats
>>567067021>She is the most motherly woman in the game.Yanagi literally takes care of a kid. Yixuan basically adopted the Ye siblings.Though, Trigger is probably the one who wouldn't mind bearing the Proxy's children.>>567067086>isolde is nopan with hip cutoutsShe is?
Late for Velina marriage
>>567067265I tried swapping Nangong to Miyabi's team and yeah, the team easily cleared 33k+ points, but then the Aria team was struggling to even hit 25k points with no good/dedicated stunner since that boss buff heavily relies on having the boss stunned as quick as possible.
>>567067415That sounds fine as it is, eventually you'd wanna look at Yuzuha or Nangong Yu on their respective reruns, unless a newer anomaly support is released in which case you go with that(probably)
NOW MY LITTLE CUTIES
>>567067495>She is?well, "was" is more accurate, given the whole being dead thing....
>>567067392Goddamn,..
>>567067625Not my fault that OG anon (you?) said "Isolde is nopan"
>>567067090daily breeding, gonna fill New Eridu with pink bunnies
>>567065794
wow...
You got Lucia ELOWEN, yeah???
>>567067625Can always clone her
>>567067441I want this plush
>>567059375>I need herSHES AN ANGEL STOP BELIEVING HERANGELS DO NOT CARE ABOUT YOU THEY WANT TO RUIN YOU
>>567067136You're a retard, cope harder, she's dead.
>>567067774Sure just gimme 200 dollars and I will
>>567067461Rem has mcqueen va so thats set desuwaShifu is zzz golshiRina is zzz creekI have to think about the rest
>>567059375prepare to give her unrestricted access to your credit card
>>567065568>No bra>Possibly no panMein gott
>>567067774M1W1
>>567067772I'm not a footfag but bibi's an 'zuha's do things to me
>Loses argument>"Cope" instead of refuting any point madeWho is the real retard
>>567067772I'm not a footfag but damn...
>>567068062>>567067852
>>567068062who are you talking to? theres a quote function for a reason mr vaguepostertake your meds
bros I love low-fertility women
>>567067995if this was a gook or nip game she'd be playable. they love evil women way more than chinks do......we'd also have shunko blanco still alive instead of killed off for brown moeblob. hell we might have them split and both be playable
>>567065568look at the sag
>>567068062What argument you moron, if a character is hot or not? Its entirely subjective you stupid fuck you don't win or lose it. Again cope harder, your boring character is dead and will never be playable.
>>567068321Imagine how strained Orfblobs belt is.....
I want to romance hags...
>*takes 2 hours in the restroom every morning to do her hair*
I love Hoshimi Miyabi
>>567068445Well she should just keep her hair down
reminder that yaoi is canon in zzz
fufu in a box
>>567068620What is it with fufu and boxes
>>567068028>>567068119you dont need to be a footfag to find every part of a beautiful woman attractive, a foot fetish is a particular fixation on feet even above other sexual characteristics.Literally every part of a beautiful woman is attractive if you're a red-blooded man>face>hair>neck>nape>back>ass>clavicle>breasts>inner arm>sideboob>tummy>hips>thighs>calves>feetyou don't have an adult woman fetish you just like fucking women
>>567068445Most agents looks like they take hours to get dressed.
Blew a fat fucking load to Romeul smut.Thought you guys should know.
>>567068667Catbox
>>567068720Sharing is caring, ya know.
>>567068710bet Shifu just wakes up looking perfect without having to lift a finger
>>567058718Recently getting back to this game cause I heard new region + anniversary is soon. Can someone tell me who the upcoming main push is?
>>567068731I see
>>567068673>adult woman fetishUOHHHHHHHH VELINA SEXOOOOOOO
what's her personality outside of being a pitslut
>>567068830A woman with pink hair, big tits and a lot of love for (You)
>>567068838fufu's here!
>>567068812I read this as "without having to lift a burger"
>>567068913IMPOSTER
>>567068879grooming males significantly younger than her
>>567068445>every female agent you have takes two hours in the restroom every time before you log in
>>567068673I loveee tummies.
>>567068913Now wait a minute
>>567068913that's Nekomiya!
>>567068925Anby....
>>567068879She has the Chiwa Saito personality.
>>567068810It was hand-prompted in NovelAI.
>>567067984>Rina is zzz creekI want make them work bros...
Remember when Wise just sat in a dark corner playing video games all day?
>>567068710>rolls out of bed>throws on some daisy dukes and a tank top>top 3 hottest girl in the gamesons of calydon stay winning
lol
>>567069132You are insane if you think her fur doesn't require extreme and constant maintenance in that heat
>>567068879being best girl
>Start argument saying she's boring>Get proven wrong and refuse to refute these points>Call her ugly>Gets proven wrong and defaults to "It's Subjective!">Tries putting words in my mouth acting like I'm saying she's still aliveAbsolutely booty blasted. Were you that offended by the idea that you disliking her and being in the minority of people who would have rolled for her?Or was this just rage bait because if so that also failed because I'm laughing at your Hasan tier argument skills.
Funny monkey hours
>>567069131>Wise is a pussy who can't watch horror movies without Belle forcing him >turns into a horror monster that nearly murders everyonewhat a hypocrite
>>567069252she's a cheetah, they just wake up beautiful. they're well adapted to hot climates. no ten hour korean skincare routine necessary
>wind weakness??????
>>567069404>she's a cheetahReal?
>Roll Promeia>Do her tutorial>"Okay, so she's basically Yi Xuan">Hop into Hollow Zero with her trial>Forget the tutorial already and just do Miyabi's rotation of spending energy to get meter and then holding attack to spend meter>it just works
>>567069271>No Becky on that listI'm honestly dissapointed and a little bit angry.
>>567069405That's right.
>>567069376By the reverse token>Belle becomes the Horror monster she loves so much>Is in constant agony the entire time, screaming every action while Wise is screaming like a tribal warrior on the hunt
>>567069404>>567069252actually maybe a sand cat but same story
we need Becky expy
>>567069507Wise can't even handle fake horror and his life becomes a horror story
Morning Dialyn process
>>567069563That's Zhao, the damn homewrecker
>>567069601I just realized she's wearing a leotard + thighhghs
>>567069612AIEEEEE should have stopped at 6:50
nam nam
>>567069601>>567069667the leotard won't make it inyixuan had one instead of shorts in her big animated movie implying that was the original design they submitted to the animators
I'M HERE!
>>567069458ideally you want to attack and trigger anomalies to build meter and then hold special to spend the dots for ablooms since ex has a higher multiplier than holding attack does but honestly most of the damage comes from anomaly/abloom anyways so it's not that big a deal.holding attack is less efficient at building frost compared to her normal attack chain but it's also faster and safer. She also builds energy so fucking fast you can easily dump it by holding ex
ill miss fufuthe rest of 2.0 was average at best
The Binding of Zhao
>>567069843Love foofer shoes
>>567069925>Zhao was dead the whole time Wow...
>>567069843FUFU IS UGLY!
>>567069482YOU CAN'T EVEN ROLL FOR HER?????????
rerunwhen?
Your date for the night.Questions?
SEASON 3 UPDATE
>>5670701036, 7, 11, 14, 15, 18
>>567070193very cute zhao
>>567064272WOW azn cocks are tiny bro thats like babydick
>>567069806At a closer look, maybe it's not thighs but just a thigh strap but that would be too revealing. Either way, this design will probably be changed anyway like you mentioned
Don't lewd Harumasa.
>>567070193No, let's go!
>>567070103>>567070292someone made 14 a skin btw
Imagine if the Outpost feature allowed us to send webms in chat
>>567070428His fangirls didn't get the message.
wakin up
erm, what is this? could it be a completion time estimate??
Not bad, but not quite S+. Hopefully I can do more with the M0W0 idols.
>>567069601for the love of god don't give her the shifu weird leotard thing
>>567070662Hips still wide enough. Would breed.
>Season 3 upcoming potential buff leaksvia. Tieba
>>567070786>Lighter>RinaNice.
>>567070657How tight is she?
>>567070786> AstraDoes she really need buffing?
>>567070786CAESARGODS STATUS?
>>567070786>No Koledasadness
>>567070786>Zhu Yuan got passed up for buffs over AstraMAKE IT STOP
it's an edit made months ago
>>567070904Sunna kinda took her place in every team that didn't already have a support
>>567070872You can't get out unless she wants you to.
>>567070786...
>>567070786astranauts stay winning
>>567070786Astra and Lighter before Qingyi would be so fucking wild kek
>>567071046She's going to force me into fatherhood...
>>567070786
>>567070786It crazy how we live in a world where Astra is considered worthy of a buff
>>567071020Sunna only really took her place because of Ether Veil shilling specifically (which is a game mechanic blocker that I doubt they will give Astra anyway). Sunna only really has Astra beat in Daze application otherwise.
>>567070786I am okay with this.
>>567071234They just give her a parry so she can do the double parry thing..
Oh well.
This is why I'll M6 her
>>567071121whatever buffs Evelyn is good in my book
Here's your new Astra.Well? What do you think?
Your lover and soulmate, Sunna.
>>567070786>Rina, Caesar, AstraITS TIME
>>567070786>Pagstra Yao Ming who is .5 or below still meta as fuckFake without checking
>>567071275Damn, all she had to do was buy a stronger mic?
>They are falling for it
>>567071413Taking Sunna on the first date of her dreams
Do Lycaon's
Fufu's...
Say something BAD about Zhao
>>567071447Post some real leaks then.
>>567070539Imagine if the Outpost feature allowed us to do anything interesting
>>5670715833ft tall 20kg
>>567070786you guys are fucking retarded
What buffs can they even give Astra that aren't useless (buffing her basic attacks) or redundant (higher stats on buffs)
>>567071808Give her an ether veil.
>>567071734Standing blowjob height and easy to carry around with one hand....you CAN carry her in one hand right?
>>567071583I think she should change her clothes.
>>567071772>says the redditor
>>567071540We know who was behind that rocket launcher..
>>567071808Easy.>Astra now actively fires off notes if you keep up her swaps>the notes give 50AP to the team, 10% ATK, and 10% Sheer
>>567071808Make a chain attack buffer, I guess. Could be more stats, could be something else.
>>567071808Basically just making her work better with Rupture unit.
>>567071808kinda like in the trial of the new event where she triggers not just assist but a chain attack on switch in. That would be huge imo
wow no way people here are on the same IQ level as ZZZ_dicussion redditpagswho would have guessed this
>>567071808copypaste part/all of yuzuha's passive so there's not only one unconditional anomaly support in the game.the fact there's only 1 yuzuha when every single anomaly team wants her, and they even buffed bosses specifically to counter yuzuha's buffs, is unhealthy for the game
>>567072048>Astra gives chain on swap>Norma gives chain on swap>Eve ends up just chain spamming nonstop
new anomaly S rank support WHEN?
>>567072127Just as the Founding Fathers intended
>>567071734How about 30 feet tall and 20000kg?
>>567072127Finally Voidhunter enthuasists can play Evelyn!
>>567071960says the retard not using 4chan X and doesn't know about reverse image search
>>567071087I'm boycotting the entire season 3 cast if they buff Lighter and ignore Qingyi.
>>567072254Maybe she should've been more of an ally.
Bibian Banshee buffs?
>>567072215Evelyn deserves the best
>>567069601This is an AI modified image btw, if you go on the video even if you blow up the brightness you can’t see the leotard thing
>>567072394Get her mindscapes, NOW NOW NOW NOW SHE DESERVES THEM, PAY UP
How do we unironically recover from this?
>>567072248Well yeah I could press the reverse search function if I gave a single shit about the source of the image.
>>567072494I'm glad I didn't. Gong exists now.
>>567072528
Thoughts?
>>567072528we do nothing because mihoyo is rich i play games for fun not to shitpost online
>>567072176maybe
>>567072634yes
>>567072583When was this about meta, it was about giving bibi your money, every other agent is irrelevant
>>567072528Recover from what? I haven’t lost anything
>>567072528Recover from what? I'm not brown enough to understand your point.
>>567072689Oh my GAWD!!!!!
>>567072653But... wait no... you have to care...The goystation charts... no... zenless is only played by a few million instead of... no... you have to care... please...
>Wormcaon thread purged
>>567072742No. I like Gong more. Triple swimsuit team has its charm, but Vivian has a playstyle I don't like too much. And that is with Yuzuha m2.
>>567072906I don't mind at all. Alice is great too.
>>567073025Kill yourself Tanaka. You are a stain on not just this general but the entire world
>>567072906>COOL EditionHomos really are trying to gaslight everybody into rolling homo.Every day I share threads with dogfucking gaylords, I learn to hate them more and more.
>I bumped it 70 times but I don't care btw
Not!Rin will be 3.2 because that's also the summer patch and nothing beat a Tsundere in a swimsuit
>>567072906>a thread breaks rules and gets deletedYour obsession with males should be studied. Why does a brown man who has never held hands with another person care so much about virtual males. Is it homosexuality?
What does NTE have that ZZZ doesn't? Seems like it's the new hotness around and it's stealing ZZZ's remaining players away, but how?
>>567059428For all those who doubted me...
Zhao but she is a Pizza Tower character
>>567073218Actual dating the girls not the soft ball Quality Time stuff
>>567073118>>567073160Finally, more than one Agarthan heterosexual male in this thread (aside from me)
pizza tower is latinx humor
>>567073207>no you are gay and brownyou wormers all repeat the same script over and over, not sure if it's because you're raiding from the same discord or you're just the biggest NPCs to ever exist
>>567073218ZZZ has playable fluffy rabbitsNTE only has a npc rabbitEasy win
Here is your Seed gf.Questions?
>>567073241nice one, anon
>>567073207>obsession with malesBut you are the one spamming faggot porn in the threads in hopes of "triggering" your boogeyman that left the board eons ago?
>>567073459Can I return her?
>>567073241kek your Shunko score got lower
>>567073595I fucked up one stun rotation...
i like playing as women more because i like pretending to be one
Sorry sleevefaggots, Sunbringer's design and personality will be modeled towards my gaze (male)
>>567073218It has a better dating system and worse combat, also open world.Why do people keep comparing ZZZ to all of these games, ZZZ is not an open world game, it's not wuwa's rival, it's not NTEs. If anything we are most like Hi3rd and Solo Leveling Arise
>>567073207I just need to glance at your post to figure out you are using dishonest sophistry to shame the other guy.You are a disgusting human being just for that alone. And I'm not even talking about your dogfucker habits.
>a COOL character appears>VH enthusiasts immediately think about gay sexwhy are you like this?
>>567073218
>>567073818>Why do people keep comparing ZZZ to all of these gamesShitposting, nothing else.
>>567073746could've been a sleeper build with a revealing skin like with belle and her swimsuit
>>567073218I tried it 5 hours and the gameplay is ok and the sandbox city is great. But the story is awful, the humor is cringe and over delivered and the characters all look like DeviantArt-tier knockoffs of other popular gacha characters.I'd rather wait for Ananta which does have nicer characters.
>>567073818Because ZZZ has a core audience that hasn't changed meanwhile all the flavour of the month gachas like wuwa and nte get infested with troons and third worlders
>>567073241Anyone tried Promeia team for the first boss? I suck at the game, but I feel she is just too slow for this battle specifically.
>>567073881It's too late to pretend, homo.1. You think all your dogsex agents are "cool".2. You want to trick everybody into rolling your "cool" homo agents. Because you want your homo hobby to be subsidised by hetero anons. It's the only way you can survive a cutthroat capitalist market, through deception and gaslighting.
>>567073692>Xhe actually thinks a guy that looked like Lighter/Hugo would bat an eye at a brown tranny like xhim
>>567073818All gachas are in the service of selling you anime waifus. They directly compete with each other for your attention and time.
I dont like gay sexI like Zhao sex
>>567074082You need to use manual chain if you want a high score
there has never been a good post with a seed picture attached. it's truly remarkable.
>>567074082I did with M2W1 Promeia + M2W1 Vivian + M0W0 Zhao and got 49k
>...You really think I look better without my visor?
So these faggot chink devs won't remove trashcaon and tell me "it's not possible!" but say if I cheated in polychromes or mats, I bet money that shit would get reversed, I even got refunded mats back before after leveling my S Anby and it somehow glitched out
>>567072528>Game stop releasing hot brats>Popularity immediately takes a nose diveHow predictable
>>567074294Harin love
>>567074082Trash run (and meme team because I saved Yuzuha and Nangong for the third boss), gonna fix it later.M0W0, M0W0, M0W1>>567074129>>567074139You are schizophrenic and I'm FAR from brown.
post agents that wonBIGLy
>>567074294s11 with hair down and no visor is one of the best hidden designs this game has
>>567074360>>567074264>>567074275I just suck then. Gotcha. Definitively need to train Manual Chain and learn it.
>>567074129>the brown man is unironically incapable of thinking a character is cool if he doesn't want to fuck it
reminder that tanaka is confirmed to be a brown jap-larping trans man from Vietnam currently living in germany
>>567074129NTA but male characters can be cool, like Negan or Rick from TWD, Artyom from Metro, The Arbiter from HaloHating men (your own sex btw) this much is what for years people called a closeted homo overcompensating, we understand this but you somehow don't. Not because (you) see a guy doing something cool you immediately think of having sex with them.
S Billy is the only cool male in this game so far, though. I don't make the rules, I just deliver them.
>>567074181third worlder mentality i only play things i enjoy not to "collect waifus" like a golem
>>567074440
"cool male" is a homotranny buzzword. there's no such thing. the only acceptable male in any game is the mc which is (you).
>>567069601>>567072471I hope she has pants + hips cutout that reveal she is nopan.
>>567074539>VietnamI believe you.During launch there was a homo on /v/ who made a Ben video with a vietnamese tiktok song. It was unbelievably faggy.
>>567074505Kill yourself Furfag
>It's still her game
>>567074539>trans manof course it's mentally ill foids who chopped their own tits trying to tell you what female design should be like
>>567074668you are legitimately mentally ill. There are dozens of harem female-only gacha games that you can play. You are significantly worse than the people you shit talk about.
>>567074580>NTA but male characters can be cooIrrevelant.I have ousted one of their ploys to trick others into rolling homo agents, effectively subsidising their presence by convincing bystanders they wsould roll for "cool" homos.If you don't have enough braincells to see throught this then you shouldn't even be talking.
>>567074805Tanaka..
>>567074693I don't think I will.
>>567073746Images you can hear
>>567074607Good for you. But that doesn't change that pretty much all gachas make money from selling you anime characters, and gameplay, story, costumes, and events are made to sell you these characters. So all gachas can be construed to be competing with each other in a way.
>>567074890
>>567074805not him but if you have to make that argument, there's also dozens of games without detatched sleeves or fanservicewhy don't tranaka and the rest of the looney troonies leave?
>>567074885He is right, homo, kill yourself.
>>567074805Those are barely a game and much worse for some reason.
>>567059962I have been using her with PEN Miyabi on Ice/Fire sheer bosses and clearing everything with S+.
>>567073218dating and intimacy with the agents, including having them move in with you and even sleep together with goslingcore shit like having them ride on the back of your motorcycle and go to the movies together while holding hands.ZZZ is the """""horny""""" hoyoslop game but it's still PG turbo safe and censored. Given how explicit shit in Tower of Fantasy's dorms got later on it won't be long before you're buying characters lingerie and having pov lapdances in NTE, the fucking mihomo playerbase would have an aneurysm at 1% that level of hetero pandering, remember the screeching when genshin added the teapot shit about how it's 1000% noncanon and how dare you build a harem in your house etc? Well in NTE you literally spend millions buying a big apartment and having your harem move in with you as actual gameplay.ZZZ has also become a timer-focused arena combat simulator with everything else ignored, while NTE is basically the opposite where combat is mediocre and a tiny part of the game compared to everything else and you can legit ignore it. I play ZZZ for the gameplay and like the combat 10x more and spend more time on it by far, but if you asked me if I'd swipe for anything in this game lol fuck no while I'll buy skins for girls I like in other games including NTE
Burying my bellend in bibian's butthole
>>567074965Pipe down, Player 2.
>>567074709Miyabi wonnered
ZZZ is technically the game with the lowest upkeep time daily and weekly, right?
Did S11 won bigly?
>>567074962because this game is extremely tame compared to everything else when it comes to "fanservice". The sluttiest thing so far was Jane licking an apple in her trailer and it hasn't been topped.
>>567074604robots should not be considered the same as actual male characters for this sort of thing. straight men like mechs and cool robots, the kind of guy who rolls for S. Billy and the kind of person whining that Manato is not S-rank are completely different audiences.Horizon Walker is an actual fucking porn game with full-frontal nudity and sex scenes with the agents once you max bond with them, and even then cool giant robots are S-rank and decently popular. Cool robots are a man's romance, Billy is not the same as fucking Harumasa
>>567075247>Have her at P6M4W1Two copies and she will win even harder. If I ever pull Trigger, then her victoty will be total.
>>567074962>games without detatched sleeves or fanserviceHonestly there isn't.
>>567073885>>567072597
>>567075486...
Screw the rules I have Mibibi
Phaeton Jockey!
>>567075302this game is extremely tame when it comes to releasing wormsyour troon tribe cries about most designs but if you cry about males, a small minority of characters, you tell them to find a different game. don't you think it's time to take your own advice?
>>567075493
Tanaka-sama won and so dude cool guys
>>567075630
>>567074825I am not afraid of men as I'm very aware of my sexuality, it's literally that simple. I'd pull for Boothill in a heartbeat, I will roll for Silly, my favorite agent will always be Anby.It must be tiring thinking all day about men and what other men enjoy.
>>567075486Me femra would never make this mistake.
>>567075197I think so. At level 60 you just enter the HIA and Ult with Yixuan, and you cleared 60 stamina points in 7 seconds.
>>567075707Kill yourself homotranny.
>>567075448play literally any game aimed at foidsnikki, reverse 1999, LADS since most of you are fags, etcof course there's plenty more outside of gacha too
Your maid has arrived.Questions?
>>567075935No questions, but I have a gun
>>567075583>your troon tribeI'm not that guy you keep screaming about. Shut your stupid fucking mouth. You have literally thought and talked about "worms" for years now.
do i get moar if i buy the silver pack first?
>>567075931>no fanserviceI don't think any of your games apply to that rule you just made up
>>567074805>you are legitimately mentally illYou're wrong Homo.We have correctly pinpointed one of your talking points and strategies to gaslight people into subsidising your homo agents.You do this because you can't compete honestly in the free market.
>>567076008nah, the gold one has the silver one included
>>567075702
>>567075707>I am not afraid of menBut you love to subsidise the homos? Right?And you want others to be like you, Right, homo?
Inhale robot fumes
>>567076102the free market decided male characters sell more than women thats why elden ring won and we're just a gacha for SEA and asians you lost the culture war
>>567076376ok
>>567076005then why are you making excuses for them lolif you think people who complain should leave, the feminists should be the first. why do you disagree with yourself?>>567076035no for those people there's two kinds of fanservice, aimed at men (bad) and aimed at women (good, sometimes they even argue it doesn't count as fanservice)
>>567076426>male characters sell more than womenOh oh, the homo achieved brain damage and became a salesfaggot.
If Dragon Ball came out today, you guys would say it's for fags because it's mostly about men.
>>567076662>you guys wouldI wouldn't even pick up a gacha like that.
...
>>567076662there IS a Dragonball gachaguess what, I don't play it and don't go in their forums to cry that most characters are men. because only feminists act like that
Sarah Floren
>>567075023>while I'll buy skins for girls I like in other games including NTE>NTE>game where free skins are better than paid skins
there's nothing wrong with being vietnamese btw
>lose my 50/50 roll on goteAND A STUPID USELESS CHUD IS I'LL EVER BE
>>567070786Why are they buffing worms?
I hate my job and I want to change careers, what should I do?
>>567077180Quit your job and get a new one
>>567077125wait for the tower of fantasy-tier skins to be added with customizable stockings and lingerie and POV """"intimacy""" scenes
>>567076369subsidise the homos? Not really?You are upset that people enjoy male characters and calling everyone that do a fag, I'm staying on my lane explaining to (you) why being hateful of men when you are a man yourself is what since forever has been a sign of attraction. (you) would become a happier person if you stopped caring about what other people enjoy, anon.
Nekomata molested me....
>>567077180I'll hire you. 120 dollars an hour. All you need to do is be a janny
>>567070786MY M6W5 RINA AND MY M0W1 CAESAR WILL SHINE EVEN BRIGHTER THAN THEY EVER DID.
>>567077574and that's a good thing
>>567077637it's fake bro...
Was this Shiyu easier than last or do I just finally have my Seed built so I can bully the gimmick?
https://litter.catbox.moe/d2nv2twiz0n9woxf.png
>>567077574You wanted it to happen, anon. Like come on now, she's like 140cm tall and skinny. Unless you were drugged, there ain't no way.>>567077695>hair down thereeugh kills mah boner ded
>>567077608Deal
>>567077746Your reply actually took the wind out of my sails, hot damn..
>>567077458>why being hateful of menI just hate you homos.1. You are all dishonest snakes who argues with sophistry.2. We have litteral proof from the deleted thread the "cool guys" is a buzzword you use to convince others to roll your homo agents.When that thread was made all the homos rallied into that thread.This is verified your buzzword, and you actively use it to gaslight others.
>>567077812Builds help a lot. You're probably getting the hang of it, it's mostly about dealing with the first wave efficiently.
>>567078152I realized it's not about saving up for damage windows because the timer isn't the issue, it really feels like you should just be spending all your resources all the time until it drops to a 1.0 multiplier.
>>567077971I know the truth hurts...
>(you) would become a happier person if you stopped caring about what other people enjoy, anon.how many meltdowns did you have about the S3 designs? what about shungguang? it's time to drop "progressivism" (feminism) anons you yourselves can acknowledge it's making you a worse and bitter person
>>567077695Sex
>>567072528soft restart the game, take it offline for 6 months and scrap all current content and bring back the good designs
>>567077824I think that see-through kind of ruins the appeal but otherwise looks great
I love my wife Aria!!!
I dont understand how gays can exist and play this game. Women are just so pleasing to look at.ESPECIALLY ZZZ women.
>>567077458>I'm staying on my lane>he says while trying to gaslight about how anyone that doesn't want yaoishit and other garbage content made for women is actually gay/a trannyPlease kill yourself like the rest of your depraved faggot allies tend to do.
>>567078568She doesn't look like this in game though
>>567078568i fucking love women bros
>>567078568Unironically ruined by her tentacles and hair.Luckily this is a hagchad game so I'm spoiled for options.
>>567077458>subsidise the homos? Not really?>You are upset that people enjoy male characters and calling everyone that do a fag, I'm staying on my lane explaining to (you) why being hateful of men when you are a man yourself is what since forever has been a sign of attraction. (you) would become a happier person if you stopped caring about what other people enjoy, anon.
>>567078568I wouldn't have rolled her if not for mods
>>567078596>he says while trying to gaslight about how anyone that doesn't want yaoishit and other garbage content made for women is actually gay/a trannyI noticed he is really good at doing this too. It's like this is where he put all his skillpoints into when he was born.But I just can't stand this type of people, there is a dishonest element in the way they argue that makes me want to choke them to death.
How much are you betting dawei shows up for our 3.0 stream
Did you forget your meds again?
>>567078104>1. You are all dishonest snakes who argues with sophistry.I'm not gay though, like, at all>2. We have litteral proof from the deleted threadIrrelevant, I joined the thread here >>567073818 and have no knowledge or care of your boogeymen that roam your mindYou can have cool guys without wanting to fuck them, that's a statement of fact. I can think my dad did something cool? My old uncle is a biker and he's fucking cool, why can't (you) make that distinction?
>>567079143Streams where live developers show up usually means they are important patches.So it's high probability.
uhhh...
>>567078568But what about gay women?
>>567079237>Irrelevant,It actually isn't irrelevant when we have confirmed the buzzword and the identity wo the group aho keeps throwing it around.
>>567079283That I can understand. Women are HOT.
>>567079143Idk about 3.0 but maybe 3.1 (anniversary). He hasn't shown up for Genshin or HSR anniversary at all recently.
>>567079264I love this cissia image so much
>>567079237The average 4channer cannot fathom something without assuming that society is out to get them, let the retard be, there's nothing to win.He'll now reply to us both that we're flaming homos (despite the fact I've never rolled a male 5 star in ZZZ (I do want Lighter but he keeps showing up at awful times)).
>>567079264RIP spine
>>567079264I always heard acrobats are some of the best at sex, surely that translates to the snake woman too? Bonus points as she wraps her tail around your arm to keep you close,Amazing how well they hit it on what seemed to be a filler character.
>>567079389I have no reason to lie to you anon, but you will believe what you want I guess.Why argue in the first place if you won't bother to even think about any of my points.
>I dont understand how gays can exist and play this game.They are our women. >>567064272
>>567079707>but you will believe what you want I guess.But it's you who don't want to believe anything I say and dismiss it as irrelevant. You're reversing everything back on me.This type of deceit and sophystry is bad for trust, so don't be so surprised if I don't trust anything you say.
ok im almost done with the story finally, just missing promeia's chapter and i got 2 questionsafter shunguang defeats her brother shiyuan, the cutscene doesnt show what exactly happens and he disappears, saying he will save her, but like, what happened exactly, did she cleanse the creator from shiyuan? because we see him as a good guy but hes clearly corrupted, or at least, he did keep his corrupted black hair etc appareance, despite shunguang throwing 5 bazillions swords to him, he survived somehow and got rid of the influence of the creator? idk, feels like im missing the final cutscene that happened thereand my other question is regarding tops, they're constantly a problem, theres literally nothing good from them, constantly bothering everyone, going against the mayor, trying to go against void hunters, inter-knots is filled with anti-tops members, if the entire population dislike tops, how do they actually make money, because im pretty sure if the citizens have other alternatives they will for SURE use companies unrelated to TOPS, and the mayor dislike TOPS as well, so they dont have political support either, is TOPS basically nintendo who can run infinitely thanks to their massive vault of money despite doing really bad in term of popularity? all i can see is that TOPS is a group that: goes against the government, goes against the population, goes against void hunters, they in fact seems like the only fucking thing they like is the exaltist who want to destroy every fucking thing, why are we allowing a public group like that around?
>>567079536Aside from Silly the only other male I'd pull would be Severian, but only if he is not too close to Sunbringer, although chances are low
>>567079972Yeah, the only males you would pull coincidentally happens to be the 2 upcoming males.Let's hope you can trick all the other anons into subsidising your males, okay homo?
>>567079971>he did keep his corrupted black hairSo one thing, that's not his corrupted form. He, like his sister, just has an alt form just because
heres your Anby Demara, bro
>>567079971His black hair is her white. They're both literal schizos, hers just goes to full multiple personality while his is shades of the same guy. Creator juice just dragged it out.>if everyone hates tops how do they make moneyBoy oh boy we have a non-american here. TOPS basically has full logistical control over the economy, so they get to bully however they want. Have the mayor openly go against them? Cool, everyone in New Eridu is starving in weeks. All their dynamics are strained relationships of need.
>>567079971picrel is TOPS. Even if lots of people "hate" them they're already at a point where they own almost everything in New Eridu, Waifei, Roscaelifer etc. Military, entertainment, social media, they have control of almost every sector.
>>567070786is this not the new endgame mode characters only or actual buffs soon
this but with shungus
>>567079971>how do they actually make moneyWeren't they in Waifei taking over the company that mines Porcelume?
>>567080605can't rape the willing
>>567080353>remove non-chinese companies>lose 95% value overnightthe legendary chinese artistry
Oh boy time to play my videogames with both male and female characters. I see nothing wrong with this because I am not a dysfunctional third worlder with a complex.
>>567080223I swear anon, this better be an actual woman and not some FAGGOT like (You). For real.
>>567079958You keep saying that I'm some other random anon that I don't know, my point is that just because a male character is cool doesn't mean I feel sexually attracted to them, that's it. >>567080162here's my agent list
>normal person sees a cool character>cool, a cool character>brown schizophrenic sees a cool character>TRANNIES XHEY ZHEM MELTDOWN HOMO FAGGOT WORM AIDS SEX ANAL SEX GAY HOMO FEMINIST FURFAG REDDIT FAGGOT
>>567081019I have plenty of firepower when I just rolled Shunguang, Aria, Cissia, Promeia. So I don't really need anything else for now.But you do you.
>>567081145> M2 CissiaNTA but bassed
>yeah i have to rationalize being weird about playing males in the hobby 99% dominated and created by and for men>but let me tell you why you're weird for playing ugys and im normal for being a faggot who only plays girlsthey will never fit in and don't realize how brown their line of thinking is
>>567081145>my point is that just because a male character is coolAnd my point is the homos have hijacked this buzzword, and is actively using it to gaslight others into subsidising their homo hobby.>here's my agent listI don't care.
>>567079971>Ye ShiyuanThe black hair "edgy" version is not Shiyuan being corrupted, is a Ye Family thing, his black hair self is like Shunko's white form.Shunko did cleanse the corruption from him, because the Qingming Sword is like a cleansing blade, but he kept the black hair because that's his "serious mode".>TOPSAs for TOPS, you said you're only missing Promeia's chapter so I'm guessing you played the Idols' and Championship part 1 chapters; TOPS is messing with a lot of things, but they're in control of like half of the things that happen economically, and they hold things like contests and the tournament, they're also behind backing up a lot of things like Krampus and Odeum HAE (which Astra is under contract of), so they seem to also have their hands on both an important system like Krampus, which can even go against PUBS authority, and the Entertainment Industry, people clearly do participate, respect and support those even if they don't trust TOPS itself, TOPS just has too many companies under its name and not everyone in New Eridu knows which ones are theirs or not, and is not like they can just ignore them and avoid them even if they did know.
>>567081213I'm not rolling Billy for his meta prowess I already have Banyue and several males. I'm rolling because he's cool and I want his moves on my account.
>>567081187This homo is visibly frustrated.Most likely upset because people know how he will try to trick neutral hetero anons into rolling his yaoi pandering agents.I'm not rolling your your homo. You should be able to be okay with that.
>>567069271chaika mentioned
>>567081530>he's coolI don't care about poisoned buzzwords. They don't work on me.
>>567081865Darn well I'm white and spend money and you're brown and spend nothing and only shitpost on 4chan anonymously I wonder who the devs will listen to more.
Holy fuck this bangboosloppa event has to be the worst event they made yet
>>567080194>>567080352wtf, so they just suddenly got an alternative version of themselves thats basically their true power-up version? i thought it was caused by the influence of the sword, pulling out the ''true'' version of shunguang, but i guess it does make sense since they're family to share similar ''power ups'' kinda weird tho since it did look like it was caused by the corruption of the creator>>567080352>>567080353so too big to fail basically, still, just from the fact they seems to be holding hands with exaltist should be enough for some organizations or proxies to start doing guerrilla tactics against TOPs trying to boicott them somehow>>567081451but everyone knows the main tops right? just like how hugo was able to contact TOPs members to kick out his uncle
>>567081957You're wrong again homo. None of your tricks are working.
>im not rollingyou're f2pag who cares what you do summer ant
>>567081330I'm not rationalizing anything anon, I grew up playing Call of Duty, Halo, Starcraft and Assasins Creed. You wouldn't play Black flag for example just because the main character is a guy? that game is amazing. My favorite movie character from my childhood is Jack Sparrow. How is the world cool a buzzword? if you know exactly what I mean then please, tell me which other word describes a character, I wouldn't say Billy is badass but he is certainly cool. I haven't rolled for any male characters in ZZZ (yet) but I started to get tired that every single new faction we meet is 5:1 in women to men, I love this game and the worldbuilding it has, but for it to feel realistic it can't be all women.>>here's my agent list>I don't care.It wasn't meant for (you)
>>567082073>wtf, so they just suddenly got an alternative version of themselves thats basically their true power-up version?don't think about it too muchpretend that everything that happened in waifei was a result of a gas leak
uh oh homotroon XELTDOWN
>>567082207not ur boogeyman im a separate anon calling you a retard
>schizo has a meltdown after talking to a normal person
>>567081957You think SBilly won't flop like every Male before him? He's not even as cool as base Billy.
>>567082073>some organizations or proxies to start doing guerrilla tactics against TOPsThey have scary goons working for them.Even powerful TOPS companies are afraid of toppest of TOPS.CEOs shit their pants when this rabbit shows up at the doorstep.
>>567082296My bad>>567082207 meant for >>567081395
can you summarize this in smaller words for me please?
>>567082492horsecuck lostwormschizo won
>>567082492Homotrannies are mad
everyones so busy bickering no one will notice an unattended Sunna
>>567082568which one's which
>>567082568ok now without the namefags i don't know these people
>>567082207>How is the world cool a buzzword?When you have an entire group of homos abusing that word to describe each of their yaoi bait agents in an attempt to draw a bigger crowd into rolling for their yaoibait? That's when it becomes a buzzword, a tool used to steer a bunch of sheep.Good luck with your homo rolls, I'm not participating.
>>567082492don't use [word] because it reminds me of [namefag]
Atleast he didn't have an emotional meltdown over a monkey picture and its just back to his normal schizobabble
>>567082314>pampers you then kills youThe perfect woman!
yeah i think ill just keep pulling cool characters and ignore shilled slop
>>567082314i see, at least it seems like the owners of TOPs dont seem to go against us for now, right? they own ether companies which makes them basically working together with exaltists unless theres some conflict within TOPs and the ''owners'' of zhao dont have the same intention as the one working with the ether companies/exaltist, just like hsr with IPC where you can see multiple factions within the IPC and they can even be against each other
>>567082073>but everyone knows the main tops right? just like how hugo was able to contact TOPs members to kick out his uncleNo, not everyone knows, and the common people don't know what TOPS is up to like we do. We just get to see TOPS in action because we're involved in the main story, but the regular folks at New Eridu just think TOPS is a bit shady and not something to mess with.Hugo obviously is part of a high class society, so he isn't "just able" to contact TOPS members out of nowhere, when he's not being a phantom thief he's making connections with people in important positions on the city.
>>567082770i have never seen a homo use the word "cool guy" to use in some queer psyop agenda what the fuck are you talking about
you barely pull at all, tanaka69. that's why your showcase agents are all 0/6
>>567082770>When you have an entire group of homos abusing that word to describe each of their yaoi bait agents in an attempt to draw a bigger crowd into rolling for their yaoibait?But if I were to roll for them it wouldn't be to masturbate to the character? It would be because they are legitimately cool.>Good luck with your homo rolls, I'm not participating.I'm not asking you to?
>>567082974>at least it seems like the owners of TOPs dont seem to go against us for now, right?They tried to kill you at the start of season 2, shooting down your airship.
I'm just now starting the bangboo event why the fuck did they turn this game into genshin
>>567082306I honestly felt bad for Malefags this patch. Billy pulled his devil trigger on some nobody etherals then his new form got immediately jobbed by Romeul saibamen and had to be rescued by Promeia.They didn't even do much to his story, just cockteased the same thing we already knew about being an Outer Ring boogeyman. Silly was even more disappointing than S-Anby to me.
>>567083032ive spent like 1200 dollars on this game just to secure w-engines how much have you spent horse_king69?
>>567083094oh yeah i forgot about that part
>>567083017>i have never seen a homo use the word "cool guy"Entire /ZZZ/ thread consisting exclusively of homo posting got deleted, they had this in the OP>>567074129
>>567083094That was Sarah
Sex until I die from dehydration.
>>567083292okay but how is he "tricking" people into rolling for men?
>>567083035>ButThere is not "but", homo, you asked a question and I clarified your question.The fact that you are now trying to steer the conversation into a different point just proves your deceitful nature.
>>567083519>okay but howIt's like when you repeast a meme enough times, you can hope people believe in it.The way to fight back is to bombard your buzzword with hostility.
>>567083414Cute!!
>>567083519He's not, which makes it all that much more pathetic. Most of the posters here don't give a flying fuck about male characters and no amount of gaslighting, shaming, and shilling will change this fact. It seems more like he's a closeted homosexual that's desperately trying to tell himself that he's not queer. Either that or it's straight up just a troll.
>>567083414I wish I was that bangboo
Is Velina just going to be Yanagi 2.0? Polite, Corpo lady?
>>567083873>>567083725okay if he isnt winning or convicing anybody and it serves no purpose why are you screaming at everybody else for playing men?
MERCILESSLY tickling all the people arguing right now!
>>567083032I think I pull a normal amount. I don't pull dupes because I'd rather have more fun and cool characters than strong characters. I'll probably get mindscapes for Haru because I want to play him more and there's hardly anything interesting in S3 lineup so far.
>>567079971TOPS is a descriptor more than it is a specific group or organization. It's essentially the New Eridu equivalent to Fortune 500 companies. Depending on performance, different companies rise and fall in and out of TOPS, because as the name implies it's literally just the top companies of the city in a loose business association. So, it's kind of like saying "How come people just refuse to buy anything from fortune 500 companies and only use local/small businesses?" and it's like.....you can try, and some people who despise TOPS may go that far and go full hippie/off the grid prepper, but if you just buy something from a vending machine there's good odds half the shit in it is owned by a TOPS company, or a company thats owner is themselves owned by TOPS. It's not like you can just import foreign shit either, New Eridu is supposedly the last city on Earth, TOPS is Coca-Cola+Nestle+General Electric+Arasaka+Militech+Boeing+Raytheon+NVIDIA+Lockheed Martin+Toyota+Disney+Warner Brothers, are you gonna go your whole life dilligently checking every bag of chips you buy or TV show you watch isn't in some way owned by them? The bullets in your gun are probably made in a TOPS assembly line, same with the Ether gauges every hollow raider uses, and your fucking Bangboo is manufactured by the Marcel group who themselves are part of TOPS. So it's not even that they're all universally cyberpunk dystopian assholes; bangboos and Carrot data are literally a necessity to function in Hollows and by all evidence the Marcel group takes their performance and maintenance very seriously, even the most anti-authority rebels and criminals in New Eridu still have Bangboos with them. Krampus are corporate glowies, but the people they kill are often scum even by cyberpunk corporate standards, like Promeia being sent to kill people at an illegal slave auction
>>567084025There is nothing wrong with treating homos with hostility, especially when they try to be deceitful.
>>567083568You are the one being deceitful though, your way of "clarifying" my question was by making a straw man fallacy of some other anon's way of thinking and pinning it on me.The entire conversation was:The word cool is a homo psyop to make you roll for character that otherwise you wouldn't because they are gay.My answer was that if I were to roll for a "cool" character it would be because they are in fact cool, not because I'm thinking sexually about them, end of story.
>>567084184ok but youre calling everybody a homo for playing men thats deranged
>>567084017She's a rich high society aristocrat who funds Norma's tech projects. You can't even identify tropes correctly wtf
>>567084017No, she is also smug and teasing. A bratty hag
Can we talk about the gameSpecfically, Wise calling the moon "Mirage Moon"
>>567083119>>567084404you're right lets talk about genshin instead
>>567084232>My answer was that if INo because this doesn't disprove that we had an actual homo thread, and they tagged their thread with this particular buzzword.You can't negate evidence with an opinion. Homo. All you are doing is poisoning the conversation with deceit.
>>567084296If you roll yaoibait, then you are homo aligned. I don't see anything wrong with being hostile towards you.
>>567084017She is an ara-ara elf hag ojousama with a smug smile and enormous saggy milkers
>>567084324She's part of the government, she dresses like a noble, but she might not be one.The "Marcel Group" isn't even a real company, it's just how Roscalifer sells their stuff to the muggles down below.
>>567084339Something about this is really hot.
>>567084667>ok so its one guy with an agenda>but if you roll for all males you're homo alignedyeah okay you're just a retard making no sense calling everybody gay for playing guys lolbye
https://youtu.be/cLLVdJ5lRpo
>>567084981>>ok so its one guy with an agendaIt was a whole thread with just homos circlejerking each other.
>>567084169yeah i think its very close to IPC from hsr, which is a bunch of corpo organizations working together (somehow) but why would they support ether companies that are working closely with exaltist? thats just a suicide, supporting the group that regardless of their true intentions, realisitcally they will erase what we know right now as the last bastion of the world, makes no sense to me
>>567084796It really is
>>567084793for the chess theme she's almost certainly the Bishop.
>Not a single Asian character in RoscaliferThe aryan/anglo year...
>>567084526I've said that I'm not gay and I'm not being deceitful.,you can have your schizos that are, as with everything in the world.I'm normal, just trying to make you understand that not because someone says cool or plays a male character makes them gay just because you labeled those three things as related. Someone made a thread like that, have you thought that it could've been just to spite people like (you)? I joined the thread after the other one was deleted, have no clue what it was about, have no interest on it. I will roll for Silly, he is funny and has a motorcycle, he is cool, No, I don't want to jack off to Silly, I'm not into males. If Severian buffs Cissia directly then I want Severian because it would make the team cohesive instead of having to throw in characters that don't know each other together.
>>567082073https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Sq9VtAEBTcM&t
Yu is so cool!
love nagi
>>567085213Sir phoenix is chinese
>>567085213we're getting House Kaslana kino >Sunbringer>Titbringer>Lolibringer
>>567085275>I've said that I'm not gay>just trying to make you understandWhy are you so desperate to defend yourself for no reason though?You barged in on a conversation that had nothing to do with you.We have actual evidence their homo thread used this buzzword.Why did you feel necessary to barge in on the conversation and defend this buzzword that is already poisoned by the actual homos?
>>567085182What chess theme? And how is she a bishop?
>>567082207>for it to feel realisticwhy does it need to be? it's an anime style videogame with noticeable cartoon influences, it wasn't trying to be like our society in the first place because that went extinct and the writer's imagined culture took its place. if you can suspend your disbelief to accept the fantastical premise but not the fantastical culture itself it's not an immersion problem but you having opposite beliefs you're trying to argue in a deceptive waythis realism argument is only ever used by feminists trying to insert their political butthurt towards straight men into the game, like arguing that the girls should be more covered because that'd be more "realistic". who the fuck values that in the first place? you don't believe in that shit yourselves. video games are escapism
Fionii > PhoenixSorry ENsissies but the japs blew the mutts out of the water with the naming on this ne
Otto expy...
Aaaaahhhh this damn slut needs violent rape!
>>567085753who
>>567085452which parts because theres nothing chinese about her from my pov
>>567085812Honkai's premier blonde man.
Boy oh boy, I sure am glad we're leaving Waifei Peninsula.
what if...
>>567086074Kill yourself homotroon
>>567085213one entire season of chinkland with constantly chinese fengsui, chinese mysticism, chinese cultivation bullshit wasnt enough for you? the only thing we missed was seeing shunguang or shiyuan or yixuan using a sword to fly let it go for at least 2 seasons till we start seeing 223423423 chinese characters again
>>567085452the aura loss going from fu hua to this is hilarious >>567085662the external department characters have a chess sub-theme the same way victoria housekeeping has classic movie monsters. Sigrid is Knight. Norma is Rook. Velina is Bishop. Sunbringer is Queen, and if the clone shit is real (we already know there's multiple Sunbringers each with different models and names, with one being Drakaina and one called Lindwurm, two different kinds of dragon) then the child from the trailer is the Pawn that promotes to Queen. >how is she the bishopShe's the "clergy"/bishop of Roscaelifer, doing the public speaking and management, with a carefully cultivated appearance and high figure of authority without actually being the figurehead leader. Her design is rounded and curved (not just her tits, but those too) and has slits cut into it the same way there's a notch carved into the Bishop chess piece. She's one of the most important pieces but not the most important, and you can even read into her personality being less "straightforward" than Nora's. Rooks move in straight lines, Bishops move diagonally and are usually personified as "cunning" Normally you wouldn't need to read this much into shit, but mihoyo are about as un-subtle with metaphors and symbolism as you can fucking get, so all of this is definitely 100% deliberate the same way Pyrois being the name of the horse pulling Phaethon's chariot is as subtle as a brick to the head.
>>567085275Nigga stop arguing with a literal schizo who thinks there's some grand conspiracy of women and fags to take away his anime titties.
I wonder if we'll ever see the other OG Void Hunters. They're already using the only two waifus people cared about, even though Dan had her own crew they had to pair her up with the other waifu
>>567086258>aura lossbeing chinese is the aura loss most conquered peoples in history
>>567086119Chill out.
>>567086339I mean it makes sense, you try defending this shit. You can literally just go wherever you want with an army.
>>567085687gyspy with dark skin never has a good post huh? maybe tomrrow youll be funny
Sex with ju fufu
Imagine kissing Lucy and she starts crying out of pure happiness...
Ching chong SEAchimps always make me laugh they suck sino cock and then beg for an american greencard and speak english and lust after white women
>>567078568She would have been infinitely better without 4 huge tentacles coming out of her ass
>>567085565Because I have nothing better to do right now, work is slow. And personally think that calling people that would pull for male characters all homos is pretty dumb.I asked you which word would you use instead of cool, you know exactly what I mean by that. You can have someone being cool, sexy, hot, pretty/handsome. Tell me which adjective would you use for someone that's cool but not anything to do with their physique or attraction, I'm genuinely curious. Coming back to an earlier example I gave, how would you reffer to cool guy in your family without saying cool.>>567085663Because what you want out of a story is subjective and I love ZZZ's, if I'm going to be taken out of my immersion because all of the government agencies and every single playable character is a girl (even if I haven't pulled male agents) then of course I'm going to have problems with it. Besides, more male agents let me skip and invest more in the characters I like, like I did with Cissia.This isn't going anywhere, and hasn't for a while now so I'll be moving on, have a good day anons, thank you for replying to me as I love discussing stuff.
>>567058718>Decided to pull Lucia even though I hate her so I can buff my Silly and Shifu>Get her in 60 pulls without losing the coinflipThis made me hate her less but she's still mid as hell
>>567086627you're so brown it's repulsive
>>567086258Velina as Bishop still seems like a stretch. Seems more likely she'd be the Queen and Sunbringer the King.
Why is this amerigolem constantly having a meltyIt has been years
>>567086739The worst part for me is that she just feels clunky to play. I hate having to pre-load an attack chain before the fight even starts.
>>567086790She won't be able to see my skin color at night with lights off
yeah im thinking that i won
Gotta agree with the schizo Chinese have negative aura nobody is intimidated by Poo Tao the 5'4 100 pound asian man no matter how much he larps about "bro chinese are tall with good nutrition now"
>>567086260But I like arguing and debating, I don't get mad in arguments and enjoy having a conversation with opposing ideas.
Awesome week for poor retarded skill issue players such as myself.
>>567086969im not unemployed enough for that but god speed
I humbly request a Lycaon thread.
>>567086961We know, Dialyn, the best unit of season 2.
>>567086963Why is this mental asylum patient talking about himself in third person
>>567086721>Because I have nothing better to do right nowBad reason, so don't be offended when people chew your head off. You picked this fight yourself homo.>I asked you which word would you use instead of coolThat's not my job to help you with that.I've found an easy way to point out the homos in this community, it's effective and I like that.And so you can just go fuck yourself.>how would you reffer to cool guy in your familyThis problem doesn't exist, there is no one from my irl family who is trying to trick me into rolling for homo agent sin ZZZ. You're inventing a problem that doesn't exist to distract from the fact that you are a deceitful snake who steers conversation away when you got owned.
>>567087234you have negative aura nyugen chao ling
my only electric team is sanby/trigger/orphie becuase i didn't bother rolling on yanag, seed or cissiawhat do i do with this information?
>>567085301so based on that videolead scepter owns youkai and is apparently the ''leader'' since he got youkai on his side and will probably be our main antagonist in season 3copper ring seems to be against tin crown who seems to move towards the ''rebirth'' path, which probably is the same bullshit as the exaltist, since tin crown had a different opinion as lead scepter, means lead scepter doesnt exactly works with the exaltist, just use them i guess so krampus which i think is tin crown basically openly accepts the exaltists?correct me if im wrong
>>567086721it's not a game mainly about men because it doesn't want to be, it doesn't want "realism" and that word itself feels like overstepping to force a change no one askedwhy can't there be games that are simply about attractive female characters without someone whining how it makes no sense? you might not be gay but you come across as very feminist
>>567087183give me the best lycaon pic
boring unoptimized 3 void hunters run. just release Billy already, this game is fucking boring
latina shifu
>>567087443Tanaka-sama with the TRUTHEM
>>567087425NTA but ZZZ was never all-female so I don't get your argument.
shit i really need a decent anomaly team for shiyu/da, my only agents are grace m0, nangong m0w1 and bibi m1. do i pick promeia or hold the fort for miyabi rerun/ping girl?
>>567086807They're not exactly subtle about it. None of her abilities or passive names/themeing fits the Queen but does Bishop quite well; she's got some light miko/shrine maiden aesthetics with the oversized fan and her personal gauge being "Kazahana", one of her specials is literally "Triple Severance" with severing your desires as a major part of buddhist and even some shinto practices. She's not an authoritarian figure but a soft power one which fits the bishop much better.
>>567087443This troon is gay as fuck.Never take anything homos say at face value.
Not him, but I'll post some Lycaons.
>>567087464this one is super cute and not very homosexual
Absolute peak mental illness thread I just jumped onto>“cool” is a buzzword used by homoslmao, even.Giving indians the internet was mankind’s greatest blunder.
>>567087636and I haven't said it needs to be onewhat he's contesting is the fact the game has mostly women, he hasn't said exactly what kind of split would be ideal for him but it'd obviously be very different from now
Need sex with Alice
>>567087779You are too autistic about truths, the others are trying to use practical filters to identify their adversary. You obviously can't understand what they are doing.
>>567087641Just grab Velina in 3.0, she and Vivian together should be plenty. Then grab Yuzuha later whenever she reruns.
>>567087641Just wait for the spending event and get Janem2 with her sig
velina thighjob
>>567087984This is the most pathetic statement I've read today. Grow up
>>567087254>she's still going on about how she doesn't understand how a character can be interesting without wanting to fuck it
>>567087560Looks kino
>>567088171>>567088171>>567088171
>>567087984Yeah, except that filter isnt even remotely practical lmaoBut keep acting retarded, by all means
>>567088107There is nothing pathetic about epxlaining to you how the world works.
>>567087984You are right>>567088107You are a homosexual gaslighter
So if in the world of ZZZ, or at least in New Eridu, there are SO many more women than men...does that mean there's a chance for it to be socially acceptable for a guy to have a HAREM? I mean, if it's for the purpose of saving the species...
someone make a non worm thread please
>>567088235Nah, there are a lot of male NPCs in the world. The playable cast is just mostly women because it's easier to extract money from men when it comes to digital merchandise.
>>567088209It catches you every single time, homo.
>>567088234You are mentally ill
>>567087779I've seen "dude I just want more cool males" used to justify characters like fucking Lycaon and Manato (or the homoangels in Granblue Fantasy, or shit like tartaglia in genshin, or literal fujobait) to not see where he's coming from. "I just want cool dudes" in gacha games is virtually never about "Hey, we want Dr. Doom and Magneto and Dante in Marvel vs Capcom, not the fucking garbage you gave us in Infinite"; it's not even "Hey, we want Archer and Lancelot and King Hassan", notice you never see these people asking for heavily armored cool knights in full plate armor that doesn't even show their face, their idea of "cool male" is "catboy with his bara tits out" like Manato or "vampire twink ikemen" like Hugo.
When's v3 beta?
Gonna finish this thread out.
>>567087651>She's not an authoritarian figureShe is though. Her lore says Bangboos are terrified of her and see her as a evil witch, implying she's doing some bullshit to keep them in line. Her own people imply she's ruthless too
>>567087779you need to understand that the average user of this thread is a hideous brown incel that do not want any reminder whatsoever that other men that don't look absolutely repulsive like them exist.
>>567088210>epxlainingKill yourself shitskin. You retarded browns need to stop invading English-only spaces.
>>567088340Yeah, I was kind of thinking that already.
>>567088602you tell 'em xister
>>567088353In your head, maybe>>567088517More headcanon that just completely ignores Billy posters
>>567088489>you are mentally ill for not falling for obvious gaslightingKek you are not fooling anyone any more
>>567088517That's a really good explanation, something that escaped me entirely, but this is what I had wanted to say too but couldn't express it.
>>567088749The overlap of people who like Billy (a robot without a dick whose aesthetic is a mash-up of Deadpool, Dante, and Vash the Stampede) and the people who like pink-haired catboy faggot Manato and demand more of the latter is essentially nonexistentSee also: >>567075426
>>567088838>"everybody is gaslighting me, the world is out to get me I must resist the gay agenda"Brown or underage
>>567088904>robots should not be considered male characters This is exactly the kind of logical acrobatics I would expect from someone trying to claim that blanket statements about wanting ‘cool males’ are only made by homos
>>567089303what chromosomes does a toaster have
>>567088838NTA and honestly you're the gayest poster in this thread and I just got here.
>>567089371>Aria, Vesper, Elfy and Qingyi say that they're girls so they're girls and we accept that >Billy and Banyue say that they're males but this doesn't count because they're robots
Today I learned that homosexuals have mindcontrol powers that they use on people to make them roll male characters in gacha games.
>>567089603correct. machines exist solely for the convenience and pleasure of mankind.
>>567088517>justify characters like fucking LycaonLycaon is unironically cool though? Everyone agrees.
>>567089802Sorry, it's not that you are successful with it.But it's important to ensure you will fail at the attempt.
>>567089980>Lycaon is unironically cool though? Look at the next thread.There is nothing cool about the gay romance you are spamming us with.There is a legit reason why normal people want you dead.
Someone just make a non-gae thread already.
>>567077695Sekomata in 3.xTrust the plan Sexomatabros.
>>567088517Just say you're gay·
>>567090879This is just yet another pattern you homos use against your critics.Your homo peers already deployed this multiple times in this thread. And it doesn't lessen normal people's desire to push you off of helicopters.
>>567090879Fine.(You}'re gay.
>>567090175Yeah sure that fanart version is disgusting but the character in game and it's story is very cool.
>>567091301Based.
>S-Rank Nekomata>She is white How would you react?
>>567091413I was neutral, but his dogfucker fanbase made me loathe him.