Victor Love Edition>Latest patch:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/04-30-2026-update.129989/>Steam Page:https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:https://forums.playdeadlock.com/>How do I git in?Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.>How do I git gud?Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.Additional Resources:>Unofficial Wikihttps://deadlock.wiki/>Collection of useful character buildshttps://deadlockmeta.com/>New Player Guidehttps://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/>Advanced Movement Guidehttps://www.dlmovement.wiki/>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)https://statlocker.gg/https://tracklock.gg/>Unofficial Competitive Newshttps://edl.gg/>Unofficial Voiceline Viewerhttps://deadlock.vlviewer.com/Threadlocked: >>566959467
Sex with Apollo
0 replies dead game LMAO!!!!!!!
>>5670672921 replyALIVE game
Rem and Graves buffs, NOW!!!
Silver needs and deserves buffs.
Game needs a techies character
>>567067520rem feels nonexistent in higher rank gameplay
i love victor
>>567067663DAMN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Sex with Celeste
Rape and kill all farmers. We just got rejuv, half their team is still dead for 30 seconds, our entire team is in mid lane. THIS IS THE PERFECT TIME TO FUCK OFF AND FARM JUNGLE WASTING THE REJUV
new remodels when? i wanna play my wife vyper but i can't stand the fugly neon prime model
Talked to my doctor today, said was morbidly a beast
>>567067607>Teemo>Techieswhich is more cancer?can we combine them?and how can we adapt their abilities to deadlock where the assumption is most characters move through the rooftops and the air to get around?
>>567065469>>567065790people suspect that performance based metrics don't jive well with supports because the impact supports have on a match isn't as easily quantifiable, obviously buying curse and cursing their highest value player isn't "hard" to do, but the impact it has on the outcome of a match is undeniable I've had games won entirely off the back of a dynamo not even because of black holes but incredibly clutch quantum entanglements, it just won't look as pretty on the scoreboard as a mina pressing 4 every 70 seconds (which is AT LEAST just as easy to do by the way)not that any of this shit matters, because Yoshi already said they're just experimenting and admitted it's had some bad days, but that it's primarily for smurf detectionthe support player in that forum post has a 52.5% winrate across 2200 games, how do you read>we aren't actively trying to reward normal players much beyond just winning or losingand say yep, this player deserves to rank down because of a SUBJECTIVE metric? if they arbitrarily derank every support main you will get even more raped drafts in MM where your team rolls 5 sidelaning m1ggersand before you call me a support main my most played hero is venator btw
>Weak for most of the game>Needs to be right in your face to deal damage>2 of her abilities can be destroyed by her enemies>Skull jar doesn't even work half of the time>Nerfed to hellAnd shitters STILL bitch and moan about her. Graves needs buffs immediately. I don't care what reddit says
>>567067362gay* sex with apollo!
Half you niggas say Shiv is S tier retarded and the other half say he's bottom 10.So which is it?Im gonna start learning him, as im usually Rem playing lanejanny /buff role and id like to be more active
>>567068229You can't even make the argument of "well, a support main would do terribly if they played carries" you know that goes the same for actual carry players right? Look at Metro spamming Wraith when she was OP, or really the millions of onetricks you see in MM who are just spamming Wallbreaker Victor, Mina, Warden over and over again until they get nerfed. If a onetrick is in your match and they didn't roll their onetrick hero they're going to be a victim and you're going to be sad about it the same way.There just isn't an elegant solution to that problem that you can give that doesn't make you sound like a salty fag, "I deserve to lose less MMR and gain more MMR because I'm playing a hero that's low on a streamer tier list"
>>567068194Baxter society duck hunter themed man who plants robodogs (stasis trap) and air mines
>>567068267Looking back I don't understand why people just didn't spam disarms when she was metaNot saying I like the character (Her walls are cancer) but outside of that she's a joke pick.
>>567068229my favorite part about this is that he admitted bought accounts are a thing, and they apparently are a bad enough problem for the devs to take noticewhat fucking losers are buying eternus accounts is the question, and what would be the point of doing so? youd get your anus torn open in an eternus lobby if you suck at the game
>there are niggers who have been playing this shit for months and months when the matchmaking isn't even good enough to not assign you a retarded mongoloid who run down any lane and will feed the entire game Literally fucking how, you need to be insanely addicted, I've been playing for 2 weeks and I'm a pretty stoic guy and I felt the urge to say racial slurs in all chat for several games because it doesn't matter how hard you work, like any MOBA your efforts don't matter if another guy on the team is actively hindering you. And that's not even considering the OP heroes who are braindead as fuck>>567068267She is effective in shitter rank where I am solely because retards can't handle not dying in lane to her and countering her pushing, I had several games where we had twice as many kills as the enemy but we lost anyway because retards can't pursue objectives after the kills
>>567068419If you land 3 daggers before they expire, you are S tier. If not, you suck ass bitch ass 0/9 uninstall game
>>567068419>the other half say he's bottom 10.no one says thishe has top10 lowest winrate because he's hard to play and falls off hard if you're behind, and his easiest playstyle/build is the most counterable one
>>567068574seekerbabies cannot into counter items, only L-R top daily
>>567068419He has an absurd skill floor, so most of the Shivs you see will be dogshit but the one guy with 100 hours on him will just be immortal and able to easily 1v5 while using alt-fire to dash across the map in 3 seconds.
Why the fuck does nobody ever shoot objectives?Why are you even playing this game over some generic hero shooter?
>>567068194Which do you find worse, poison and blinds or instant death
>>567068419He's S+tier if you know how to shiv movement and manage your rageBoth of those are high skill floor stuff so the average shiv will go 0/10 while the smurf eternus 5 shiv will go 20/0.
>>567068603>Literally fucking how, you need to be insanely addicted,YesI dream about deadlock I write about deadlock I think about deadlock I can't play other games without trying to jump dash slide
>>567068773>Why the fuck does nobody ever shoot objectives?BRO I NEED MY +80 SOULS TROPHY STACKS>Why are you even playing this game over some generic hero shooter?It's the current thing so I MUST play it also it's got actual movement. Overwatch and Rivals only let you dash on SOME characters... as a skill that has a cooldown
What do you think about my hero idea:Kel the Crustixian: Pincher | Snip | Snap1 - Scuttle: Kel dashes forward with increased speed and significantly lower turn rate. Each enemy gets violently pinched. Does more damage on heroes, scales into a backstab effect with increased damage if he pinches from behind.2 - Ambush: Kel digs underground and gains HP regen while reducing movement speed by 50% and turns invisible. Can be pressed again before the duration ends to make Kel latch onto an enemy hero within close range, reducing their movement speed and dealing damage until Kel is heavy meleed a number of times.3 - Ixian Shell (Passive): Whenever Kel takes a burst of damage from either gun or spirit, he gains resistance to that type of damage for a brief duration.4 - Snippity: Kel snaps at an enemy with his enchanted claw, dealing a moderate amount of pure damage and automatically applies a number of on-hit effects from your items. Number of times scales with ability level.
>>567067607Venator exists bro
>>567069023>What do you think about my hero idea:If Kel Snippity never got into dota he aint getting into deadlock
Why doesn't Haze's retarded ult have a ceiling?>Haze ults me (Lash)>I didn't get slowing sexed or cursed so I grapple into the air off of her>Still getting shot like 20 feet in the air
>>567067629After exhausting his Tag Along he has nothing else to do and is an easy kill if his allies don't peel for him, which is just too distracting. His pillows have an immense charge time too. Very poor design. Compare that to Kelvin or Dynamo, both can spam their 1s, deal great gun damage and are very tricky to kill in account of being both tanky and mobile. Rem's small hitbox doesn't matter when all the AOE slop will indiscriminately hit him regardless.
>>567068592>what fucking losers are buying eternus accounts is the question, and what would be the point of doing so? youd get your anus torn open in an eternus lobby if you suck at the gamejust think about the shit you read in this thread, so many posts related to skill level/rank have this air of "I deserve to be higher rank than I am"even just the other day someone was saying phantom and eternus 4 might as well be the same rank, how easy would it be for someone who unironically believes that to tell themselves, yeah I'm stuck at phantom 2 and my team is the problem I should just buy an eternus account since I could hang up there easily>>567067629>>567069329 tag along requires too much coordination for pubs, between veils and line of sight cutting it off, sometimes you get to spend a whole teamfight jumping around six teammates and sometimes you jump in one teammate and he immediately dives in and kills you both or immediately peels away and now you're a defenseless cuck for the next 30 seconds after only having healed one personhigh elo lobbies are very deliberate about diving rem when tag along is down too so you get punished insanely hard for those moments
>win game as victor>get ranked downis 43k objective damage not enough for you icefrog?
>Kelvin and Dynamo have the second highest health, only beaten out by MohammedAnd THIS is why you should drink Onions
im now gonna queue up as shiv for the fifth day in a row
I reported 2 parryniggers today
>>567070276BASED. Parries are cheats.
>>567069773I hate Rem players. They play such a low impact character and then get mad at (you) for not carrying them>playing against dynamo + kelvin as abrams with a rem>backing up so we can fight in base>wraith gets caught out by the dynamo>rem jumps from wraith to me>start fleeing because dynamo has refresher and just solo ulted the wraith>rem starts screamimg in his slavbabble that I didn't go in and fightMeanwhile this nigger had echo shard, boundless spirit and healing booster and fed the enemy seven like 7 bags.
why can enemies that bebop hooks act before he can act once they reach him>hook someoneone while low on hp>predict hes gonna light melee me>immediately parry>but he can act a whole second earlier, kills me before my parry comes outthe only ability that rewards the enemy who got caught instead of the caster
>>567070452>Dishonest hooker Bebop bitching about his dishonest Holliday ult ability not being dishonest enough
>>567070371I stopped playing Rem because your team never tries to make your life easy when using tag along. That Rem may still have been retarded, but it's stupid fucking hard to get a good tag along chain going because whoever you jump on is going to immediately go out of line of sight of your team and now youve both achieved nothing. Eventually it just makes you desperate for a team mate to do literally anything that you'll snap even if the guy made the right play.
Just found out that Sinclair is voiced by 2 niggersDay is ruined
>>567070560Bebop fucking sucks dude and you know he does.They were so desperate not to turn him into pudge so they made him do nothing but have a hook.His ult sucks dick and makes him a sitting duck and knockdown magnet, can't even activate items during it like Haze and has less mobility than 7.Bombs are hard countered by dispel spellbreaker and counterspell, not to mention you need to build an assload of stacks before they do any meaningful damageUppercut hits softer than a dry sponge and the repositioning aspect is highly ignorable
>>567070989Literal placeholder voices though
>>567070989>two nigger magicians die on stage because both of them are retards
>>567070610I just don't understand people who don't just switch characters when their fave is unplayable or isn't what they originally fell in love with.I haven't touched Mo since the march updates ruined him and I'm not playing Abrams as much now that his gun is dogshit because I don't like the hybrid or siphonslop as much.And surely "voting with your wallet" or at least voting with your pickrate should count. I can only assume they look at those stats when it comes to some balance changes.
>>567070560>bebop hooker
>>567071325That's good, anon, I chuckled.
>>567071325WOULD!
>>567071325all i can think of is that MMF porn scene where one guy got friendly fired by the other guy and Bebop shouting>"OI MATE! YOUGOTSOMETHING ON YA'!"
>>567068801Dying slowly and painfully is better. For my enjoyment at least.
>>567070452>hooks someone while on low HPyou literally could have simply not done that
>>567069773>play like shit in obscura>find a hero I like>learn how to play>80% winrateI am smurfing in my own rank and it's great
>>567069329The problem is that it lowers the cooldown of his other abilities including ult, if you can spam it then you have no CD, why that's not OP is cause the helpers are fucking useless in this context and their CD is seprate
>>567070371>echo shard rem
>>567067663>people are finally awaking to graves x victor kinoI love it, doesn't even have to be romantic i just feel like they have chemistry
I don't know... hotdog?
>>567068858I tried to slide after a dash jump on varesa yesterday.
cum jar wife
10/2 haze leaves the game because something doesnt go his way. I fucking hate leavers. Every game someone leaves. Annoying shits
>>567071682Bebop std bombs
>>567070995uppercut needs to stamina lock like silver's bola
If you use parry and don't parry anything you should>have an at least 0.3 second longer recovery>lose 1 stamina>get stamina locked for 0.5 seconds>take 15% increased damage for 3 secondsThis would almost make whiffing a parry as risky as using 1 melee attack.
NERF HAZE Disgusting brainless "I press 4 to win" character that goes 16/2 because nobody in my rank knows what counter items are
>>567073737>bebop gets a hook>uses upercut to push the enemy away from me and into their walker>take an awful trade because of this>run away>dynamo runs in and ults after we just whiffed everything and I say I don't want to fight>I die and drop a 1k soul bag while having the most souls in the game and everyone else involved livesI was stacking with both of themthe emotional damage of our collective stupidity still haunts me
Are there any good E6 streamers who are onetricks or mostly play a single main hero?
>>567070989>Not realising they were both black mutts based on their speech patternswewlad
Sinclair sounds zesty as fuck. You just KNOW he's a downlow brotha, and that's why Savannah hates him because she found out
what if instead of 6 heroes next update they just have 2 heroes and soft reworks/remodels for the flop 4 hero update
What if the game was 9v9? Every lane a 3v3
>>567075121this would be too based for this world>the game isnt over by minute 5 because retard abrahams has already given drifter a killstreak portrait
As an Abrams main, I finally gave spirit abrams a try and you know what, it's actually really good. I wish melee Abrams was good again
>Pocket has a better gun than SilverSo THIS is the power of nonbinary hapas...
>>567075487Its not just good, its retard fun building purple/green and standing in the middle of the enemy team watching your hp bar refuse to go down
>>567075487Melee is just fucking garbage unfortunately>Punishing risk/low reward system because melee doesn't do crazy damage but the punishment from being parried is death
>>567072604i think they are really cute together but the whole polemic of graves is... le 18 and them not having any dialogue its hard to find fanart
>>567074713And just WHAT is that horrid Macomb sheriff doing to my wife here
>>567067663>>567072604>>567075870Victor was born yesterday so Graves is the pedo here
>>567075121That actually sounds really fun.
>>567074713needs a way bigger height difference
>guy kills me in lane>i get a commendation popup from him afterwardsI didn't know you could do this in the middle of a game. It has good tilting potential.
>>567075568Pocket's gun is shit because it has the spread of Silver's 1Silver's gun is probably the only good part about her kit aside from her 3 (meme ability unless your team can follow up)
>>567076516you hit escape and click on someones name to commend them
buff melee and add more melee items
>>567076516i find its seething fags doing that to ego soothe more often than using it to tilt/bm but then again ego soothing is all 99% of the fags playing this game are doing the entire time>playing cage warden for fun>solo kill a shiv>2 minutes later i die in an engagement that shiv wasnt even present for>get a commend from shiv 5 seconds later
>>567077181dude was malding hard. i wonder why people who get so upset when they lose even bother playing online games.
>see four allies next to the enemies on the minimap>allies all have ults ready and high health>go in>somehow die 1v4 as all my allies ran away
>>567076516mid-game commends are some funny shit. it's so deliberate and out of the way that it's hard to get mad at
>>567076516high five button when
>>567077802i saw an E6 abrams player seamlessly open the screen mid-teamfight while sacrificing almost zero efficiency to commend someone he parried that shit looked like an LTG dashboard combo
>ranked up and deranked back to back to back 6 matches in a rowdesu i'd rather this than requiring 10+ streaks for rank to budge. volatile rank changes is better for games with long match times, especially if there are a fuckton of ranks, idk if any other ranked esport even has as many rank+subranks combined
>>567078038mid-fight commends are the fuckin greatest, real power move shitthe runner up in my heart though is massively and obviously fucking something up when going on someone and then just letting go and hitting a commend
crushing fists should give +10% melee damage and +10% heavy melee distance permanently per kill you get with melee
>>567079009yes but only for characters who don't have guaranteed 1shot combo like abrams or venator
>>567079132just buy debuff reduction items lol>NOOOOOOOO THATS NOT IN MY L>Rthen continue to get oneshotted
>>567080345>Just buy a debuff reduction item so I can buy a duration item and be a smug faggot in chat about it while I continue oneshotting you with my braindead heroepic
>>567080480>2 retards endlessly stacking their item slots with duration increase and duration reduction items to fuck each otherkino indeed
>>567080480Lol you know exactly how it goes, the second you buy reduction the Abrams/Venator is just buying superior duration and going "lol I'm sooo smart you thought your debuff reduction would work ;)"
>>567080787ive already seen it play out in games before
Blood Tribute active effect should give melee damage instead of fire rate
I want to play deadlock so bad but I'm at work and have to go there tomorrow too someone lobotomize me
>>567075638Exactly, I was surprised when I finished a team fight, looked at my health bar and it was still full lmao
>>567068603post your statlock page so i can see how often this happens to you versus your enemies
does anyone have the "blyat dont play seven play mo and krill" clip
>laning with Billy as McLesbo>wall in two and press my ult>Billy stands there shooting minionsI am low elo and suck at this game but why do I repeatedly get people's first game ever and the other team gets people that press their buttons?
>>567073929>disarm haze>she presses 4 and gets to shoot her gun anywayretarded!
>>567082715you dont see the times git happens to your enemies. in fact if youre better than your rank then that will happen to your enemies more often than you since 5/6 of your teammates are potential feeders while 6/6 are potential feeders
>>567082715>McLesbo in my lanei'm buying egg and slowrolling until our guardian diesi have encountered exactly 1(one(singular(individual))) McAnus player who wasn't dogshit - and this was in Seeker, and he was a total fucking sperg with a superiority complex, and now that i think about it the enemy team sucked balls so he wasn't even that decent
>>567082715>>567084080>mcginnis in team>somehow all 3 of our walkers go down before 20 minsi don't get it. this has happened multiple times this past week alone
>>567084080I find her so handheld, but tbf im at midlo>buy extra charge for 2 turrets without AP>save AP for ult unlock and max it first>build around ruining everyones life with ultat most I see a single anvil for me at my rank lol
Victor should never be allowed to be good
>>567085494>same arguments made against graves are made against victorYet another reason why we need more fanarts of the two interacting, also dialogue but that's definitely getting added it's just on the back burner
>>567085494I like victor being good because it makes ult ivy viable
>>567085494Buff his spirit, nerf the ult CD back
Gun characters should win late game.Spirit characters should win early game.there should be a modicum of exceptions to this, but over all this is how the game should be balanced.
>>567086193Sounds retarded
>>567086193Sounds horrendously gay. Maybe you should kill yourself instead?
So baxter society are bad guys right?
>>567086193nigga winning early game doesnt mean shit you ALWAYS play for late game
>>567086193Why
>>567086193except early game doesn't really matter. you can feed in lane and still win because the entire game boils down to a single fight at the 25-30 minute mark
>rock paper scissors
>>567086757Unironically this.If your team dies past 25 minutes and rejuv is available, or fights over it without taking out enough enemies, its just over. Your base will be dead before anyone respawns
>spirit heroes are le bad lategame>mina presses 4 and 100-0s you in 2 seconds past the laning phase
>>567086663>>567086757In dota terms Winning early game means taking throne at or before 30 minutes.
>>567087182>ults are strongsay it isn't so anon!
>>567082289You mean this "Statlocker" site? I checked out of curiosity and the thing seems broken. Most pages give an error and it doesn't even have half my matches.However don't think that by saying that I meant that I carried but lost anyway, I never carry because I have perma support brain from my Dota2 days, it's just that I play with the team and never feed because I mostly have good sense of spacing/staying safe or when to go in and initiate. That's the extent of my competence, which is not that bad if you are only 2 weeks into a new game as complex as this I'd say. The Dota knowledge helpsBut if you're not stomping you may as well not exist because me going 3/0/5 at 10 mins while doing my best supporting doesn't mean anything if my Apollo is running down lane, dying on respawn all game. The matchmaking algorythm is clearly not complete.
Is Pocket a good character if I really want to learn the ins and outs of the game losses be damned?
>>567087507Yes and no, I would argue he'd give you bad habits though since you can get away with murder due to his cloak.
>>567087423Some ults are a lot better than others.And the cooldown on Mina's ult is less than a minute.
>>567087506>it doesn't even have half my matchesYou have to provide the match ID for your matches.Statlocker only posses a tiny number of scrapped games, and games that people provide the match ID for.Your games on there will just be the ones where someone in the match provided it to the site.
>>567082712I honestly couldn't give a shit what some russian retard has to say about other shit players. Metro is shit. Russians are shit.
>>567083613This is probably very true.>>567084080My laning is bad. I am too aggressive and should just push and farm.>>567084456More likely than you think. Without a lead a Mcginnis and her turrets don't do much.
>my haze talking about some '60 minute challenge' all game>literally runs it the fuck down to give the enemy kills, refuses to join team fights so they win them, refuses to ever contest urn or push so the game extends out to 49 minutes>lose because he throws and thinks 'we can hold it' without our m1gger carry 49 minutes in
>>567086193Melee characters should win all game.
>>567088960That's very racist and insulting, you should apologize to niggerkind.
>>567088960>t. seething 'baltoid' from some shithole like salcininikai
>>567088960they are the ones farming nightshifts money, not you, baltoid scum
>>567089142you russians are so fucking delusional it's hilarious. every time someone has a problem with you monkeys you always assume it's someone middle eastern or baltic. now just think for a second you braindead monkey. what servers are you queuing on, and who are you actually pissing off?
>>567089142>>567089216>samefagging with your made up word only you knowat least try be subtle you autistic freak
>>567089284>>567089429you will always be a cock polisher for germans/russians
yeah, shut the fuck up baltoid, good goy
Flopping tranny deadcock.
its so easy to just not fight the entire team by yourself and yet most of my teammates can't seem to resist the urge to throw themselves into the enemy team
Am I decent at mina?What should i focus on improving?https://statlocker.gg/profile/87252151/
Do you get some built-in aim assist on her or every fucking piece of shit using aimbot?
>>567091234Seekerbro...
>1v1 Dynamo>jump over his stomp>he gets triggered because I avoided his ebin reddit blast and solo ults me >this has 0 effect on the macro game because Dynamo is retard-proof and wasting the Teamfight-Instawinmator 5000 means nothing because there's a gobillion items that make cooldowns irrelevantAmazing balancing Vavle sasuga!!!!!!!
What is the bebop build?Gun, bomb, melee, ult builds all feel like pushing shit uphill, no matter how many hooks you land
You could remove the charges on Dynamo stomp, give it a 30 second cooldown, and it would still be a broken OP ability.
This was a fun game! Drifter with zero spirit items throws cuckold mark on me and either I dispel it or take 50%+ of my health just from that. I especially like the times when pocket pressed 4 near orbit and suddenly I'm not allowed to play the game. Or when I try to do anything at all and dynamo just spams stomp/cuckold split or presses 4 and I'm also not allowed to play the game. Oh! it was also very enjoyable to never interact with Mirage because he has echo shard and lifts me permanently or just fucks off for free...
nigga really bitching about drifter when playing silver
>>567092351this match was fucking miserable, dynamo is such a nigger character and our vindicta went 1/10
>>567076516if you type wp in team chat the enemy team hears the voice line
>>567092620This match was unplayable for vindicta desu. This draft is horrible no matter how you look at it.
>>567092351>whining about the damage of press 2 to die mark with no upgrades into it whatsoeverBuy your greens?
>>567093027That literally increases the damage it does to you anon, it's % of current health, for a spell with zero spirit investment.
>a bullet grazes GT>he presses 2 and air dashes halfway across the map since he has stam mastery You know maybe the people complaining about movement creep have a point
>>567093542my favorite is when you get a smurfing vindicta on the enemy team who flies so high and far away that you can't even use knockdown or phantom strike, and when you do he perfectly counterspells it every time
>>567093904are you implying counterspelling knockdown is hard? the active frames on counterspell is like a full fucking second, knockdown takes 2 seconds to activate..
>>567091596Ah yeah right, it's normal to only shoot when crackshot is ready on eternus and hit headshots consistently.But don't shoot otherwise, there is no point or people will see that you reset your cd with headshots all the time
>>567093542bro just use knockdown!>dispeljust use a second one!>counterspell....a-another?>indomitableanti-cc is getting so fucking egregious in this game. it's like you can be a totally braindead retard and just have a bunch of tools to disregard your shitty positioning with.
>>567094395>seekers think damage graphs are irrefutable evidence of cheating
>>567094306I'm not saying it's hard to do, I'm saying that the tools the game gives you to try and stop a really good vindicta from being airborne and blasting you in the head with impunity are very anemic (when you're in shitlow)
>>567092067Did you have to revise this one because you realized black hole has the longest cooldown
>>567094851real cheaters are literally able to set an accuracy % and just stick to it all game. the tell is watching their aim develop a very specific pattern while trying to maintain that source of damage. Imagine it like1 - headshot2 - torso3 - torsoin a triangle and you'll know what I mean.
>>567092782>no aimbot on gun characterlollmao>>567094851>showing off his cheater statskek
>>567086663If you win early and starve your opponents out by preventing them from taking the welfare urn then you win. If you back off and let them farm so they outscale you then you lose.
Why the hell are enemies safer under our tower than we are? Shittiest objective design I've ever seen.
>>567095076>hs -> bodyshot bodyshoti do that to proc crippling hs though
>victor on enemy team>gun>victor on my team>spiritEVERYSINGLETIME
>>567095367no I mean it's like very deliberate and over an entire mag. I've witnessed it on a haze player before.
>>567095575i've heard there's automatic detection at 70% accuracy. but i've seen cheaters that go over 70% in bodyshots AND some even go past that with headshots. and they didn't get banned or anything. makes me think its just some meme that everyone took as gospel
I have accepted that there will not be a time where there isn't cancerous meta characters or matchmaking problems
>>567095885It's fine if there's cancer top heroes, it's gonna happen.But having dumb dogshit choices like REMOVING casual and ranked and mixing the results of both into deciding your matchmaking and then having a bunch of heroes that genuinely do everything and have very little counterplay so they're always SSS+ tier is just being bad at your job.
>>567095443Spirit victor still works but you have to use your brain a little as opposed to faceroll drolling gunslop
>>567096446>spirit victor still works but he's just worse
>>567095885the business strategy of mobas is to intentionally have broken characters, so goycattle such as yourself will go>''ugh this is so cancer! i cant wait for the next patch to fix eveything''you will now keep playing and waiting for The Next Patch™© ad infinitum
>>567096226Genuinely what the fuck were they thinking adding ranked this early>Release invite only early alpha>Yeah it's as easy as breathing to get into the game but that's still stopping thousands upon thousands of people who don't have Steam friends that have it and don't want to go though the effort of being invited>Game loses playercount after the initial August-September release>That's when they decide to add a ranked mode>When there's like 20k active players, most of whom aren't playing ranked>They decide to make ranked the only gamemode instead of just scrapping the idea entirely>Still leads to being matched with the same people over and over due to low playercount>Game explodes in popularity because of old gods update>Now there's way too many shitters in the game so they try to recalibrate the ranks constantly >Most shitters leave, player count is slowly fallingWHAT WERE THEY THINKINGI WANT AN ACTUAL CASUAL MODE, NOT JEET BROOL
>>567096639It might be worse but I'm a faithful spirit victorsissy
>>567096771I'm starting to think this game just isn't for me, not until they add some sort of singleplayer mode>Actual gambling when it comes to matchmaking, you'll get a fair game that either side could win maybe 10% of the time, otherwise it's either brainless stomps or keyboard smash inducing defeats
>>567068194They reworked the intricacies out of Techies, now he is just generic dota character
GRAVES REDESIGN CONCEPT:-1-skulls now search for enemies and explode after a brief delay regardless of weather or not they reached the enemy, they speed up as they get close to explode and apppy the same slow and a bit more damage then they do now2-leave it same as it is desu3-remove the damage steal and magic resist steal, now it applies 2 debuffs, the first a percentage damage buff that increases the damage this enemy takes from summons, the second debuff only applies if the first one fills up much like how toxic bullets needs to be filled up to procc, the second debuff gives unique effects to your summons but generally every one of them is now frenzied and runs at this enemy with extra effects4-lower duration and increased CD, now instead of it spawning enemies in a 1~2 meter area around the tombstone, zombies spawn *randomly* in a wide area akin to seven's ult, so 30~40 meters, Graves and her summons get buffs while the tombstone is up, summons don't lose HP or die prematurely while inside the area and while the tombstone is up, when the tombstone crumbles the zombies revert back to how they operate normally.This kit is clearly heavily spirit focused and would discourage players from building gun on her, making it a fun niche like gun paige, the gun is now used for supporting the summons and her ult zombies no longer form a ridiculous retarded conga line that is countered by pressing S and holding M1. As for the vague buff from her 3 it can do shit like allow the zombies to jump and explode at their target if they're within 3 or 5 meters or something like that.r8, h8 or b8
>>567096921The problem is that we HAD an actual separate rank mode but the retarded nigger streamers complained so much they not only mixed both together but the results from random casual games 1-2 years ago now have a direct impact on your ranked queue games, rank and matchmaking NOWI do not comprehend how utterly retarded you have to be as a developer to think this is a good idea
>>567097289dont like explode because I think heroic aura is funnyult idea isn't bad and I think the passive should be changed too
>>567094574>I used my point and click stun, that means I deserve a killbuying 3 moves to prevent getting raped means a bunch of money he didn't spend on actually doing his job of sniping/drone striking people
lol
>>567098876If only there were a way for GT and Vindicta to scale beyond their items, like some kind of stacking mechanic. Sadly, I don't think there is such a thing...
>get rusnigs on team >lose
>get silver on team>win
I made it to archon IV from initiate 1. Took 400 hours and I'm at 61% wrAnd i just don't know how come this rank despite being 75th procentile, still is full of completely dogshit players. It fucking amazes me how so many players are unable to improve. It's always stomp one way or the other and it's the matter who has most smurfs or 1-tricks, rest of the team is nothing but a cannon fodder who are just standing there being useless, soaking up your farmNo idea what i'm doing wrong to be at that rank seeing how retards who have 400+ games in, still have no clue what they are doing, are somehow at the same skill bracket as i am, but sometimes I get team so coordinated, it is certain we will win 5 min in just judging by the chemistry and how rare team like this isI know I will climb but it's not about that. I've been saying same shit since initiate, wondering when will matches finally become good and it just makes me wonder, what are the bottom 75% of ranks for? These matches never improve in qualityJust going by my last match.>silver420+ games on record on statlocker, feeds lane, keeping them at their guardian, not realizing that lash can't use his kit if she plays like that>Paige135 games, most amount of souls cuz she was left alone on a side lane for the entire game and carry did not seem to mind>Warden820 games, the biggest feeder, least amount of souls>Lady geist135 games, 44% wr, still at archon>GT315, actually worst performing player in our game, somehow he has histroy full of oracle 4 gamesWhen I'm a whole tier below, game turns into a fucking sandbox for me and this retard with sub 50% wr, plays busted hero and can't even excel at a single metrichttps://statlocker.gg/profile/87252151/matches/82590312/It's just so fucking annoying that I bust my ass off grinding from a complete bottom and these retards seem to get their rank for free cuz they had few lucky placement matches and they never seem to fucking drop down where they belong
I don't understand getting knocked off ziplines by bullets. It seems like my bullets never do it, but my enemies do it like half the time.
>>567101335your bullets need to hit the enemy to knock them off the zipline. hope this helps :3
>>567097289I think it would be better if her skulls started out quite weak with only 1 skull but the more you farm/more souls you get (which is already a built-in mechanic with the heal) the more skulls you get and the stronger they get.Still allows for counterplay but better farmers and players can make better use of it, while also eliminating the factor of low ranked shitters losing their mind over it.Additionally it opens up her passive and ult to get higher early game power changes/buffs
REMINDER: if you play any of these characters, you are dishonest and boosted
>>567101298Ranked is completely fucked and has been for ages, my main account has to win 6-8 games sometimes in a row to rank up in ascendant 5-6, if I lose twice, sometimes once it's an instant derank.On a smurf account I got to the same rank within like 70 hours, if I win 1-2 games I instantly rank up and I can lose 4-5 games and sometimes still not get demoted.Once you have enough matches the game decides you belong in x or y rank and never lets go, this is even worse for older accounts because it takes your old normal/casual matchmaking games into account.
>>567101593im in oracle and literally every bebop is echo shard bomb bebop that does nothing
>>567101404If the damaged drops too far will it not work?
>>567101593Where is my S+++ queen?
>>567101759>I'm in Oracle Read >>567101298
>>567101896Never banned because people know she's not that strong and also not dishonest and annoying
>>567101759>Spirit Bebops>Spirit Victors>Spirit Geists>Gun Rems>Melee buildsOracle is supposedly where shitlow ends according to everybody except 4chan, but I'm Oracle and I don't believe it
>>567101825No, any damage can trigger it, you were probably too late and they got the invulnerability after a couple seconds
>>567101335if someone is on the zipline for more than 3 seconds they become immune to being knocked down by gunfire.>>567101404if your skin wasn't brown you would've realized what the issue was as described above
>>567101702before this loss im bitching about i was on 7 games win streak and last 3 games I placed #1-3 on statlocker. Went from archon 1 to 4 and last game of my streak i ranked up to aIV and placed #3 on statlockerOne loss later and i'm back at a3 despite performing best in my team which is just a fucking bullshit. You have to win 2 games at least to secure your new placement and sometimes even this is not enough if you have 1 bad gameSo much for new performence based matchmaking, what a joke. Takes too fucking long to rank up
>>567102182my skin is nearly translucent as i live in my mother's basement and have not emerged in 4 months
>>567101593>Mina>Dynareddit>Vypernot surprised>Doormani get why, but still kind of a weird pick>>567101759they don't pick bebop for bomb, they pick him for a 60m long dick of the law displacement command grab
>>567102814Doorman is just annoying, which is worse than being overpowered
>>567102957he is really strong if you don't build him like a retard (kidnap build)
>get chat banned for 2 days for telling a Miragenigger to hang themselves>ok fair>ban expires>call a Paradox retarded for going 0/21/0>4 day chat ban>ban expires>say nothing for the entire game and only type "that sucked" after we get violently stomped and lose>7 week chat banOkay then I guess I will never fucking use the chat ever again
I'm in troglow (emissary) and I've been using a spirit graves build where I phantom strike on someone, echo shard two jars on them, and rape them to death. Can someone explain why everyone runs gun graves and not this? Will it stop working at high elos or something?
>>567103105uhm you should've know using s*cked is a derogatory term in the big 26 vro
>>567103105how the fuck do you get chatbanned in a valve gamekill yourself
>>567103224it will stop working the moment people start shooting the skeleton heads and killing all of them in 0.5 seconds which usually starts happening around high archon or oracle.
>Friends bugged me to play Rivals with them after a long time>Attempting to wall bounce and dash jump>Get hooked by Bucky>Attempting to wall bounce and dash jump>First reaction was to parry like I have counterspell or something
>>567103494>phantom strike>shooting the skeleton headsPick one.
>>567103224Its good burst and people aren't expecting that from Graves so you can probably abuse it all the way to oracle but the nanosecond someone melees the skulls you die a horrible death
>>567103509Your body still thinks it's playing a good game.
>>567101427>I think it would be better if her skulls started out quite weak with only 1 skull but the more you farm/more souls you get (which is already a built-in mechanic with the heal) the more skulls you get and the stronger they get.That sounds fun, but only if they fix the skulls so that they work, what would the upgrades be then?
>>567103402this. probably leaving the part where he was spamming like a dumb fucking asshole pissing everyone off
>>567103224so you're basically teleporting yourself into their frontline? graves is super squishy and if their carries are positioned correctly they can easily kill you
>>567102148Pisslow ends probably at ascendant just look at this guy from my last archon lobbyhttps://statlocker.gg/profile/170826307>below 50% wr despite only playing busted heroes>always ranked towards the bottom by statlocker in every game he plays>somehow for the past 70 games he is considered Oracle 1-4 by matchmaking
>>567103224Hey I came up with that build tooBtw you should try phantom striking when you see them starting to light melee skulls, phantom strike > parry
>>567103509>Dashing is a 15 second cooldown skill SOME characters have>You have to do the walk of shame back if you die, occasionally dashing along the way
>>567103509Bucky is maybe 1 of 3 heroes that feels good to play in Marvel Rivals. Too bad that game is full DPS instalockers with 0 role queue or drafting. I'm also not sure why "hero shooter" translates into Overwatch sustainslop more often than not, but w/e
>>567102814that fucking hook needs adjusting>hitbox too fucking large>distance to great>Holliday has worse pick ability as her ult (which she can miss!!!!!!) and this fucker gets to use it every few seconds with little mechanical skill involved
>>567103224>why everyone runs gun graves and not this?Teleporting into their frontline sounds like a death sentence>skullsThey usually dashjump away outside of their and your rangeI'm glad it worked for you though, I'll try it out later though I'm not hopeful desu
>>567103843I'm so thankful Deadlock supports aren't just "hold down right click to heal your team and you get an invincibility ult, oh wait if you don't get an invincibility ult you're a throw pick"
>>567082715Billy dindu nuffin. Gib parry reparations, m1gger.
Name a worse character to lane against than MickDyke
>>567103635I just 1v1 their M1 while they're jungling or split pushing and win almost every time, they can't even get online. In teamfights I just try to grab whoever is the most out of position which is easy at my elo. In more coordinated play I imagine it's tricker to do this strat without the enemy just collapsing on you.>>567103774My nigga. What rank are you if you don't mind my asking? Curious how far I can take this as long as I play it right. Also good idea on parrying strat. I imagine it'd be strong to buffer a parry into your dash and catch them off guard with that too.>>567104140Phantom strike just seems to make them so slow they can't outrun the skulls, but again I'm in shitlow so people usually just stand there panicking and die. Someone else said people just don't expect that much burst out of graves so I may just be exploiting a knowledge gap here.
>>567103224It requires 2 T4 items and most people would just either press S and move away (Graves has no mobility skills and her wall is easy to jump over) or press W and kill her (Graves has no survivability and just implodes)
Sex with Venator
>>567104507Apollo and Mina
>>567104151On launch, I played a shitload of Mantis because she could buff herself or team mates, get kills, and had some CC in the form of a sleep.Then eventually she got nerfed/power-creeped to the point where her DoT healing wasn't enough in a dual-support comp. So I was basically pigeon-holed into playing whatever support that could dump heals and/or keep the team alive during ult. People just cry out for heals 24/7 so you gotta just healbot and occasionally use non-healing abilities or - if you're lucky - shoot the enemies.What a mess.
>d-d-did he just use a voiceline three times under two seconds?? AIIEEEEEEEE HES SPAMMING SAVE ME VALVE SAMA BAN BAN BAN BAN HIM NOW NOW NOWPussy faggots
>>567085494victor should be good and shitters should shut up
heded tu bloo
>>567104538Shitloracle 4
>>567105436I found the Victor abuser
Every fucking post on the forums is just copy pasted AI gens
>Spent the entire game after lane shoving waves and stealing enemy jungle/sinners, occasionally dipping into fights and chucking lightning balls to force people into unfortunate positioning.Felt like I jungled too much but fuck I denied them so much farm by doing it.
another day playing honest haze
Here's your gun Geist bro
Is there any reason why Dynamo is allowed to be S++++++++ tier for several patches in a row?
>>567105975Haze is as honest as it gets nowadays.
>>567106582Yoshi's main
>>567106350Gorth-sama was right all along... I kneel...
>>567106582fat nigga funny
Afterburn with Toxic bullets and EE is fucking busted man
>>567106871fat gay black holesso funny
here CUMS the barrel
>>567106582Gaben's main
>most honest hero while also being the most basedHow does he do it??
>>567105436truthnuke
>>567107760No troonment
>when the 0/5 silvertranny losees their tower at 5 minutes and decides its time to feed your lane now
it shouldn't be possible to derank after losing if you were a key player
>>567107760>a nigger, a faggot, and a gook, all at the same time>"based"
>>567107916everyone has movement if you aren't bad at the game
>>567097104any tipsI don't know why refresher isn't in the core items it just wins games.
>>567108334>cheat mods
if you die during laning stage on apollo you should just get hwid banned
Finally made it out of Seeker, first match went so well I went straight to Alchemist 2...Now I'm scared.
>>567108334How do you get that retarded amount of speed off of vents like that?
>>567108408main reason i dont take refresher earlier is because eshift is much better imo and i like indomitablehonestly a lot of it comes down with you needing to farm a LOT to get ahead of the enemy. inting for first walker is really worth it in my opinion because of the soul lead + safer to farm; even spirit, victor can take it down really fast with mystic vuln i dont build torment pulse anymore, instead i go for radiant regen and if im ahead i rush EE then infuserskill order is 1 1 4 4 4 1 3 2 2 3 3 2 (it isnt set to stone, i vary depending of how the game is going)also use your aura to fill pain battery, trade during lane etc. diving the guardian and getting that 1p on ult is excellent as well because victors gun with it is pure rape esp if you have good aim (i dont)i say this because i see so many fucking retards saying its not worth to use it during lane because it doesnt deal damage (retard take)im posting from my work computer so sorry if the text is messy, im phantom 5 and have been winning with spirit victor. he doesnt carry like he used to and i get countered a lot, but smart usage of eshift, warpstone, infuser and good macro helps a lotthis captcha sucks
>>567109281old webm when his movement scaled with spirit
>>567106582he's a self-insert donut steele for the developers and it's comically obvious>fat>smug "ohohoho" pseudointellectual Redditor type with a wholesome chungus veneer, like he's going to protect you from the big bad bullies and then bounce you on his knee while teaching you le valuable life lessons>quirky quips about LE SCIENDCE and... LE HELEPING and... LE DOINFG IT!!!!>keywords are...>TEAMPLAY - guhhhh god i'm such a fucking TEAMPLAYER fucking hnggggghhh i help the teaaaaam>INITIATOR - guhhhh i'm such a fucking helper and gonna fucking start this fucking team fight hnngngnh FOLLOW ME EVERYONE>CLUTCH - GUHHHH i'm such a fucking CLUTCH helper i'm gonna fucking CLUTCH this teamfight all by myself FUCKING WATCH ME BE COOL EVERYONE I'M HELPOOOOONG CHAT DID YOU SEE THAT CLIP THAT CLIP THAT AAAAA HELPOOOOONGyou know it, i know itthey just want to masturbate their cocks while breathlessly muttering "unnngghhh ffffucking bask in starlight unnnnnghhhh i'm doing it, i'm doing it.... hnnngggghh watch me fucking DO ITTTTTTT AAAOOOOO I'M GONNA HELPOOOOOM"
>>567093027That ability deals 4% of your hp per tick (if the Drifter is not retarded and maxed mark first), and it is affected by the isolated damage buff. If the Drifter goes for spirit after 4.8k gun, it can reach 5 to 6%. You really have no choice but to dispel it or else he just removes you from the fight with just one ability.
I'M HELPING!
>>567108205What level of Kelvin cope is this?
>>567109363>look up match id>3 days ago
>>567109295I genuinely don't think torment pulse is good on anybody anymore>3200 souls and 1/12th of your slots for an item that does "gun damage with no orange investment" tier damage>its only good for proccing escalating exposure, but its not like the characters that would get EE cant proc it without TP
when do you guys think the next big content patch will drop? seems like 1-2 months at the most right?
>>567109281For all vent launches, air strafing helpsFor the one at the start specifically, you want to hug as close to the wall as possible when you're mantling up the ledge, then time a wall jump so you hit the vent and wall jump at the same time, the momentum compounds
>>567110227I think they're prepping for open beta desu, there's no way a simple jungle/walker rework should be taking this long
>>567109295I don't take it early but if I think the final fight is coming I will buy it and surprise the enemy with a 3rd life.I go 1232444 and jungle when my ult is on cd.No pulse is interesting I get it and expansion to hit 4.8k early and rice with it.I usually try to make some crazy dive with my ult as I get it.I'm pretty new but I am good at dota.
>>567110227my mouth is wide open
>have like 60% winrate in last few days>lose rankAcutally impressive how incopetent valve is at making games
Why do they have a super secret testing server when the game is already in open testing?
>>567110345i dont think jungle/walker will be that simple desu considering there could be a ton of different monsters in the jungle with unique animations and abilities
>>567110620to make the streamers feel coddled and special
How do you go about making a mod?I want to make a mod for Ivy's ult and have it, so that when you take off, the Gigafly song plays
>>567110543You got carried.
>>567110756audio mods are ez to make with deadlockforge.net
>>567109281>>567110250
>>567110158Yeah the damage is too low and I find radiant Regen better because of the move speed and sustain it gives earlier when the big heal counters aren't online + you can get suppressor as well>>567110384I don't think leveling jumpstart early is worth it anymore because of the short ult CD t3 + pain battery deals good poke dmg in lane If you are struggling with lane sustain, time your jumpstrarts with the healing minion globe, you can go from 0-100 health ezpz even with t0 jumpstartWhen I have ult I either int for walker or invade their jungle. And yeah refresher for a final fight is pretty good, sometimes I do that but witchmail vs spirit heavy comps is almost a refresher itself, I have ult up everytime with it + trans CD
>no african colonialist hero with an elephant gun that shoots 1 round every 2 seconds but does 150 damage with it
I GOT THEM
>>567110543Boosted nigger it's based off YOUR performance now, not the team's. If your team is feeding their asses off and you joined them, you only have yourself to blame.
>>567111526>"I killed Ixiggers like you in the Great War you know">Has a shrunken head on his back like how Billy has the plushieIt would be too kino...
>>567108334>>567111034Notice how troonmenters only ever do this vent boost on the side of the map that has the thinner red building and not the theatre? Because it doesn't work, you hit the theatre >Sorry guys I can't schmoove the urn it's not on the good side :(
>>567109515So buy it. They probably have a bunch of actives you'd want to dispel either way.
movement = cheats parry = cheatsreport all movement cheaters and parry cheaters
>>567108334Air vents need to be nerfed, movement is fine otherwise. The core issue is that momentum is maintained pretty easily once you learn how it works, so anything that gives you a massive boost of speed suddenly becomes a tool to fly across the map. Same goes with zipline boost.
>>567111994>me when i make shit upit's just slightly harder you have to 180 quickly and air strafe left
>>567112179in deadlock this will never happen. riot clone will have easier movement though
>>567112242>me when i make shit up>posts shit he made up?
shooting = cheatsreport all m1gger cheaters
>>567108334Wall jump off the urn pickup onto the level before the vent actually costs you up to +2s. Never do it. Just jump and mantle slide.
>>567112343I accept your concession in advance
I took a bit of a break, when did Bebop become a nigger again? When I last played everyone called him garbage tier who sometimes is okay if the team is super coordinated and jumps you once you get hooked.
deadlock should be a turn-based rts instead of a third person shooter.fixed you're game.
>bro tried to do split pushing inting victor>jump him as abrams and fuck his boy pussy every time he gets close to the last walkersorry vicky, not today
>>567087182You could get rid of Mina's ult and she would still be a strong late game spirit hero.
>>567111435I am good at missing my pain batteries.I was thinking of taking it off of quickcast.
movement is for the lgbtq community so is good aim good game sense good macro real chads are shit at everything and whine constantly
>>567112685it only works in high elo because the rest of the enemy team is supposed to be pushing another objective while victor does it
>>567112673>Somebody did gun Bebop in Nightshift>That person did well>All the metaslaves flock to gun BebopTo answer your question, it's because spirit resist is much more effective than bullet resist. Bomb Bebop becomes useless if his opponents have a brain
>>567112894they also just raped his bomb scaling, i had a match just earlier against someone playing spirit bebop and my duo mentioned shiv fed him a lot of stacks, he had 40 at 10 minutes which is basically a dream for bombopand by the time he had echo shard his double bomb only did 1500 damage to me with no spirit res other than resto locket (10%)
>>567112894Jesus why is "some fag streamer used it in nightshift" almost always the answer to abrupt shifts in the """meta"""? I can't wait for this game to get bigger so that it's less influenced by like 30 autists. Bebop doesn't even have a 50% winrate in Eternus and people are acting like he's ruining the game, which I'm assuming is also just some whiny streamers influencing everyone's opinions.
>>567112836>being shit at everything and whining constantly
>>567103105>>7 week chat banthat's not how it even scales the next one up would be 8 days you're either making shit up entirely or hiding something.>t. guy that has been chat banned like 10 times
>>567112894one 3200 makes bomb completely useless and heals + gives bomb havers speedboosts
>>567112676this would actually be sicksomething more akin to D&D or Divinity but still a MOBA
>>567113164I want actual pros to become a thing, right now the only "tournament" is just a streamer circlejerk
>>567112894His gun is OP because you can hook + stat check people with uppercut like a tanky fuckerAlso his ult still does damage early/mid too with zero spirit investment.
>>567113164Bebop is fucking garbage. 2 of his abilities are cheap and easy to counter, and uppercut just does nothing so no need to counter it.Now they've added that upgraded reactive barrier that blocks hooks too, so you need to buy fucking silence wave or something to waste it so you can even hook people
>>567112676street brawl is turn based... think about it...
>>567113574he should get a different ult
Is there a lamer hero than Mo & Krill? Is it even possible?
>>567113652Bombs and the death laser need to go, they don't fit his backstory at all>Magical negro makes him as a surrogate son>Said surrogate son fights in underground blood sports so she gets her cancer meds>For some reason he has a seamine layer and death laser My controversial opinion is Bebop should be a meleeGAWDAlso he needs zipline interactions with Lash already, it's crazy how they still don't have one together
You actually need ADHD to play Rogue
>>567113164gun bebop is a lane terrorist that scales really well into the game and hooks can just auto win fights. Add on top his health pool is huge and uppercut might be the best heal in the game, bombs gain stacks without spirit and hyper beam has decent dps without spirit too. of course hes meta
>>567113980Sticky Bomb is like the worst ability in the game. No other ability has more hard counter items in the shop, and almost everybody is going to buy 1 of them every game. The damage also just sucks too, the aoe is fucking tiny now as well
>>567112792if u dont hit your pain batteries its ogre, just keep practicing
>>567113861Dynamo is a very close second desu
>>567111918>>567110975Literally disproven by yoshit himself Its happening because hero mmr differs from your acutal mm so you lose more points by not being an one-trick
>>567115314I don't want to be a onetrick, it gets boring as fuck to play more than a handful of games as the same character
wallbraker victor took our mid walker at 13 minutes i odnt want to play this game anymore
>>567108334>just play 10000 hours so you can finally play the game rightLook man, some of us are employed. Not me but probably some of us are.
>>567108334Every hero has movementNot every hero has reduced gravity and 4 base stamina and teleportation or grappling abilities that give them immense amounts of air time and control
>>567115628hey man that's great! and there are games for people like you called league of legends and marvel rivals!
>>567115628it's genuinely fine if you don't have the time to learn it i respect that i just think the people who don't have the time/don't want to learn it and consequently ask for it to be removed from the game are just coping shittoids
>>567112454except on celeste
Tankbuster is actually... BUSTED. Can't believe I slept on this item for so long.
>>567115523plenty of characters are capable of blowing up unattended walkers at 13 minutes.the solution is to just not leave your walkers unattended.
>>567116127decay is just way way way better
>>567116243>the solution is to just not leave your walkers unattended.But how will I get my trophy collector stacks???
>>567114194no one is going to waste CD on items for bebop bombs from gun bebop so he will actually gets stacks and damage
>>567115628>10000 hoursIt's not hard It's just unintuitive, the main 4 tricks he used there i think are>mantle slidingWhen you mantle up from an edge if you press crotch your character will slide forward with some good speed>wall jumpingSelf explanatory, tho it takes some getting used to>air strafingStop pressing W(forward) while in the air, this, illogically makes you go forward faster and harder for some fucking reason lmao, it's unintuitive but the easiest to do outside of a match imo>punching(for movment)Heavy punching while in the air locks you in place and then pushes you forward sometime so you don't fall down
Why is talon allowed to have 4 base stamina and a built in majestic leap on a 16 second cd
>>567116127It does current HP so imo it's only good if you're up against a tank with lots of spirit resist, and even then it won't do anything special it will just help you open them up a little.>>567116260Yeah, it does decent damage to tanks, though the main selling point imo is the healing reduction
>>567116671>for some fucking reason lmaoEsoteric source engine shenanigans, it's the same in TF2 and CS. I assume it's probably an easy fix for Valve but they don't do it because it's iconic at this point.
>>567116794Overtuned old character with a bad WR just like shiv, give it time, as of right now they won't mess with him too much even though he's basically broken, on par with dynamo and shiv with how overtuned their kits are
>>567116794people dont play him so he just stays overtuned.
Pumping for Mina!
>>567116927>because it's iconic at this point.yup, surf niggers really did ruin it for everyone
>have fun with other game>you know what I feel like playing dl :)>very first game someone feeds billy in lane lane against mina and haze dont feed against him actually win lane and then teammates feed them afterwards anywayswhy do i do this
why do vyper and calico's guns have this like sparkle effect where their bullets hit? if they pop split shot and hold m1 at me, i legit cant see a fucking thing my screen just gets covered in fireworks
>>567116927>>567117431Stop holding W.
>>567118047the funny thing is that it's just tied to strafing and holding W doesn't affect it at allit's not that you can't hold W, it's just pointless as it does nothing
r8 my bopbuild
>no brocolli haircut tiktok zoomer teen hero
>>567118475>and holding W doesn't affect it at allnta but it does, that's the whole thing, pressing W hampers your momentum while in the air
>>567075121>midboss fight>game crashes
>Game starts>Viktor on enemy team>Immediately says "Ummm hi im trans btw"I have Viktor avoided but this is literally everygame btw. Why do they love him so much?
>>567118697if you're going to buy cursed relic you're sup anyways so go 4 actives. if you're not you should build more damage because you're off carry
>if you buy rebuttal, buying counterspell is disabled>if you buy counterspell, buying rebuttal is disabledthere you fucking go I just fixed this dogshit game
>>567119392who is buying rebuttal over counterspell
>>567119329>if you're going to buy cursed relic you're sup anyways so go 4 activesseekergawd.... the type of nigga to not buy disarming, slowing, and silence actives because they're for """"supports""""
Why the fuck isn't Victor running down the shrines hotfixed yet? The game is actually unplayable
>>567119440billy haters
>>567119515yes? literally look at any e6 streamer that plays carry. you don't have enough slots to buy utility
>>567119584Transgenders love him
>>567109801this looks so much better than deadlock
>>567119846that's riot's deadlock
this game has been in development for over 8 YEARS and it's still fucking shit......with most tech companies pivoting to AI i wouldn't be suprised if we go into eos in a few months
>enemy team gets silver victor >we get a remgg go nextremove this dogshit tranny support hero it's so bad and the WORST players gravitate to him
>>567109428https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/voicelines?voiceline=dynamo_use_rocket_boots_03_02.mp3
Please remove Victor.
>>567110158Torment pulse is extremely good on many frontliners like shiv, apollo, silver, etc
would graves pussy smell bad since she's a necromancer?
>>567119392Both should be removed from the game, just like parries.
Are we still pretending silver is op or did everyone finally notice how garbage the hero is?
>>567120508https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/voicelines?voiceline=familiar_kill_necro_01.mp3
>>567120734Influencers and retards still try to pretend she's OP, everyone else knows she's B or low A tier at best.
wow calico is garbage
>>567121447One time, I got 19 kills as her. I got accused of smurfing. That was a fluke since I'm really bad as her.
>>567120734she can 1v1 anyone with 20k less souls
What are the chances that 2 years from now new characters won't have interaction voicelines with the OG characters?
>>567121624It's a shame this game isn't street fighter then, because last I checked it's a 6v6 with schmoovement leading to omnipresent deathballs.
god I wish I will never rank up to sweatlands
>>567121582It genuinely feels like that's how they want the character to work though. She's a burst assassin who only has enough burst to one-shot people if she's like 5k gold ahead, and she has an ability that gives her extra gold. So it feels like she's meant for those games where you just snowball into 20 kills because she gets fed easier than any other character and is actually able to blow people up then. But outside of those rare games she just doesn't do anything
happening?
>>567122281valve wuldnt get bottom tier pizza from dominos
>>567122281yeah, I also get my news from Yuri Haze account
>>567113652He shouldn't t. Sinclair
>>567122281DOTA CONFLUENCEDOTA DEADLOCK CROSSOVER EVENTHOODWINK ADDED TO DEADLOCKTRUST THE PLAN
>>567121761>pictentacle should be a horse cock tbdesu
>>567122343pretty sure they did last time before old gods
>>567122447that would be awesome i love hoodwink is he better in dota lately? last time i played like 3-4 months ago she was bad
>>567122281i'm expecting hopoo to say something stupid to tell everyone the update isn't today and then it's next week
>>567122281CS2 supposed to get a rotation any time now too
>>567122281No they're still on their vacation
>>567122674She's alright now, not amazing but still a decent pick. Biggest issue is as always how hard she gets fucked by auto tree cut scripts which is way too common.
>hide behind door because a mina is ulting me>her bats arc across the opening of the door and hit me anyway this patch is supposed to be the kusoge 10x speed patch right? haven’t played in a while
>>567122839can she play pos 3 now or is she still just a support slave
bro this game takes place in new york when are they gonna add a real nigga from the streets to the game
>>567123009Even less viable as pos 3 than ever before, shit sucks.Then again pos 3 is kind of a worthless role right now except like two picks and if they're banned you can pick anything and as long as you don't feed it's alright.
>>567122529retard coomer tourist
who is the worst character atm?
>lane partner kelvin killing minions behind enemy >immediately runs behind tower not collecting orbs>turns out to be a giant pussy all game not saving anyone but himselfMy fault for trying Graves in a Phantom lobby.
>>567123649you're so right, paige is a well-known dog slut so it should be a huge dog dick instead
>>567123710Graves, rem and calico. Every character is viable if you have a big enough soul diff but these are the most dogshit characters to pull a win with
when is boho coming out
>>567123710Victor when he's on my team (he plays spirit victor and maxes ult last)
>Graves offers you a handjob >Its with the Lich's handThoughts?
>Literally can't play doorman anymore because he's banned every gameAre there any other actual fun characters?
>>567124442there are plenty of fighting games out there
>>567124442just play portal 2?
Doorman is only hated because he denies movement autism.
Anyone try ricochet on Silver?
>>567124656Silver is picked in night shift because her bola denies movement autism
>hero MMRSo does that mean if your hero MMR is pisslow, like I just got matched into an Archon lobby when I played Celeste when I'm Oracle 5, it's a free demotion if I lose?
>>567124686nigga what? this is like asking if we've tried boundless spirit on mina
>>567124656by teleporting you into his base?
make a casual mode already holy shitlet me try funny meme builds without being hounded for not being meta (jokes on me human nature would still mean that woold happen)
>>567124442Sinclair if you're a trillion IQ>>567124656Doorman is hated because it feels unfair when you die to him, same as dynamo and others, you can't do anything if you come out of the hotel and find 4 people waiting to rape you, it feels cheap
>>567124656Sadly his ult is actually garbage against every movement ability character.
>>567124686She's not a carry so no
>>567124150The lich was a woman so it's still straight, though I'm worried she'll activate her passive and steal my cock size while increasing hers
>>567119846Finally someone realizes that the playtesters were wrong and Neon Prime is what we should've got>>567120232Matchmaking is already vibecoded by JeetGPT
nobody is gonna talk about neon prime when the game comes out
>>567124686Yeah in brawl, it wasn't bad desu, since it allowed me to kill them faster and it gives firerate which is one of the most important stats for her, idk how it would work in a pub desu and i wouldn't recommend it since there are other better options
>>567124656how so?
>its another Rem episode of me having to jump between yellow and blue lane constantly because the rest of my team is compelled to brool and feed the 4 on blue while the other 2 perma push sidelanesI already know its a lost game and I just wanna int and feed at that point as its JUST me splitpushing delaying the game until the pushers get strong enough to contend walker. Like holy shit how can people be this ignorant of macro?
>>567125302But bro. THINK OF THE TROPHY COLLECTOR STACKS!
>>567124946>Doorman is hated because it feels unfair when you die to himIs this how people felt getting Astral Imprisoned by OD?
Think I'll need to pass on Vindicta. Thats like 4 games in a row with her the enemy team gets a large lead early and I can't get any stacks.
>>567125392just get aimhacks like every other vindicta bro
>>567068114>early lanehmm I think I will abandon my partner in lane to smash boxes>mid gamehmm I will abandon this teamfight to kill this camp>late gamehmm I will abandon this base push to punch boxes and kill campswhy play a carry if you arent ever gonna do any actual carryung when the team needs you?
>>567125364>Is this how people felt gettingdeadlock's community is made of pussies who complain too much because they think "their feedback" will change the game. I wouldn't compare them to other moba games, people in league don't complain this much about morgana or darius and the existence of a casual mode(FUCK YOU YOSHI) helps>Astral Imprisoned by OD?I don't play dota
>>567124790>>567125290As a teammate he prevents players from skillfully expressing their ability to press the space bar against walls to get from point a to b. As an enemy he enrages pro players by just walking through a door and they can't press space bar to chase him if he closes the door in time. The cart similarly causes anger I've found even if it's not used for kidnapping and just pushing someone away. And the ult denies movement autism by locking someone to a location for a few seconds if it doesn't kill them.
>>567067292
>>567124904personally im holding out for either a 8v8 or pve mode. though with how certain character kits work im not entirely sure a pve mode is a certainty.
im high as fuck, took some kratom and bought some new snus. Should I queue up for some games or nah
The towers don't need to be destroyed to get to the shrine?
heard you tryna deadlock your shit, so start the game and start some shit. we gotblue niggas, red niggas, robot niggas, goat niggas, cat niggas, bucktooth niggas, deranged niggas, rapist niggas, fat niggas, goth niggas, indian niggas, glowing niggas, cowboy niggas, burning niggas, ugly niggas, ginger niggas, milf niggas, pretty niggas, wide niggas, bratty niggas, desert niggas, gay niggas, book niggas, time niggas, pussy niggas, sleepy niggas, crazy niggas, knife niggas, furry niggas, trans niggas, holy niggas, smelly niggas, feet niggas, slime niggas, snake niggas, cop niggas, gangster niggas, chinese niggas
>>567119584If enemy Victor is literally inting and you can't use that to finish the game before he destroys your base you are supposed to lose
>>567125873gonna play street brawl
>>567124656nigga his ulti forces you to engage in movement autism in order to not insta die
>>567074713Mogs Silver x Celeste hard
>>567126789Silver x Celeste is a dogshit pairingSilver is for Venator
>>567126885>VenatorProblem is he's the religious fanatic, it's too out of character to ship him with anything other then a chastity cage, the religious kind not the fetish cage
>uhm... sowwyyyy doowman... but your cart hit the door 0.0001mm too much to the left... yeah they're not going through the door... sowwwyyy>what's that Dynamo? You want an extra 20 meters to your stomp that stretches beyond the ability's animation? Of course my wittle bean uwu 50 meters is too little for an ability anyways.
>>567126885I have a hard time seeing Silver with Venator, maybe Abrams instead. Venator carrying Paige and plapping her ginger womanlet butt is underrated and would be so hot though.
>>567127331based doorchad
>ultbot mcginnis typing question marks in chat>A singular (uno) knockdown is bought>Instantly provides zero utility to their team in fights>Does fuck all and diesNo greater feeling man
>>567070989>>567071208>>567074881White fragility
Running into a fairly common issue I've noticed in my recent games if anyone can help me out. So I do my best not to die in my lane farm it but another lane has given a few kills away. The enemy springboards ahead in the lead of the back of these kills and we are on the defensive for the majority of the game but my team decideds to brute force it getting a kill here or there while giving tons of kills to the enemy while ignoring defending walkers I then find myself not in team fights and constantly going between lanes pushing it up, becase of this I am not participating in fights and not getting any souls of any of the kills my team actually manages to get and I fall behind even with constant wave clearing. Should I be ignoring the walkers? Should I just be deathballing with the team 24/7? This is emissary rank. Any tips would be appreciated.
havent played in a minutedid they remove corner/edge boosting? can't do it anymore
>>567127331*STOMP*ITS YOU OR ME*STOMP*I HAVE YOU NOW*STOMP*KINETIC PULSE
>>567128226No. It might have gotten nerfed since you last played, but that depends on how long ago you played.
How the fuck are you supposed to play Venator when the enemy carries Are teleporting everywhere and you're moving like a snail.
>>567128426maybe dont pick a 43% wr hero
>>567128513Don't like how there is characters that just can't be played or you lose.
>>567122281We're at least a month and a half away from even beginning to expect a patch to drop, I feel bad for these retards
How will they ruin doorman?
Victor players be honest? You are all troons aren't you?
>>567128986I'm female to male and I relate to Victor because of the scars
>>567128986>>567128986*raises paw*
>>567128828they already did
>>567129117This seems more likely than an MTF playing Victor
>>567128986no matter what i say ill be called a tranny but i am a female (pussy) fujo and i dont think trannies like seeing men fucking with gore on it
>>567129117hot
>>567129431Future pooner
>>567129431Sooooo trans? This is the deadlock general you're safe here.
>>567129431ayo this foid gonna become >>567129117 soon fr fr
>>567128986yep, I must always play my 60% WR character
>>567128986no matter what i say ill be called a tranny but i am a female (axewound) fujo and i dont think trannies like seeing men fucking with gore on it
>>567129909Let's see what this dick can do
see you are all sheeps
>>567120734SilverSilver breaks some of Deadlock's normal damage rules because so much of her output is tied to enemy health rather than only her own direct scaling. That makes her an equalizer style hero who can stay relevant against stronger or more durable opponents.Her laning phase is also strong thanks to high base regeneration and effective trading windows. If she gets ahead, her midgame can become terrifying, especially against teams that struggle to contain her before she starts dictating fights.
>>567130041i thought celeste was bad but now shes good again?
ooh hit that air strafe mr detecive
Is it better to play gray talon spirit or gun? I feel like it takes a while for gray talon to come online with spirit.
Successful parries shouldnt reset the cooldown on parry thats extremely degenerate behavior
>>567130295spirit talon is more consistent, gun talon rapes if you're playing at elo where people don't buy metal skins
>>567130295wtf are you talking about spirit grey talon rules the server for 20 minutes then becomes useless
>>567130041>so much of her output is tied to enemy healthLiteral lie, the %hp damage on slam fire is a complete meme and never makes any meaningful difference.
>>567125364>enemy carry running through river to fight mid>nightmare him>grab him when nightmare ends>his entire team dies>he rages in chatnever gets old
Which one of you was this?
>>567131232so funnnyyy
>>567130041>>>Lightbringer
>>567131232it was me now bend over and spread your ass
>>567131232Suprised they aren't playing Victor desu.
>>567127331>land a shoulder charge>wind up heavy melee>dynamo decides to stomp so my melee goes under them
>Hey this Seven is like super fed>We need to kill he is making left lane his home>No? We just gonna brool in right lane for 10 mins?>Yeah, we really need 4 empty slots instead of 3...Seven just rolled us. I love Phantom lobbies so much...
>melee damage is reduced by bullet resistance>and also has a separate dedicated melee resistance stat put on commonly bought and generally good to decent items>while already being the inherently riskiest way to deal damage which can be easily avoided by movement and positioning or just fighting back as you're forced to put yourself close to the enemy to deal damage>while parries exist in their current state>melee only inherits 50% of the weapon damage increase>while melee damage increase items are generally weak as shit both in raw stats and effects>and the melee hit effects are reduced on light meleesGenuinely explain this shit to me, there is no conceivable way that anyone with above double digit balanced this shit.
>>567131991>hey this guy is super fed>we should go fight him!uhhhh
>>567132113Melee is the most oppressed and honest playstyle
>>567132414>>hey this guy is super fed>>we should go fight him!this is the mindset of my ex-overwatch friends (who often are the ones that fed the problematic hero in the first place)
>ricochet works for wolf m1 attacks>if you hit multiple enemies with the same attack it ricochets multiple timesRicochet is actually core on Silver
>>567132414do you just leave him be then? whats the counter?
>>567128369you used to be able to do it really easy by mantling something and letting yourself fall for a second can't seem to do it anymore
Wearing a chastity cage is actually core on being a Silver and Celeste main
>>567082712https://gamebanana.com/sounds/87697
Whats a hero I can play that doesn't really to much on farming but can still be a signaficant help in teamfights?
>>567133119Any support
>>567132703my point of view is that it's better to exploit weakness than test strengthavoid him and look for opportunity elsewhere. only fight him when you have an overwhelming advantage. too deep, his team occupied or dead, and someone with curse built and readyif your team tried to 'just' kill him, the expected value is horrible. he has THE area-denial carry kit. which is to say, he has a kit that lets him shit aoe damage and has one of the better get-off-me tools. the likelihood of killing him is low unless you have strong pick potential and counter items. the likelihood of him slipping away or getting rotates is high. the likelihood of him killing members of your team is high. the equation is rough.track and avoid him. never give fed carries a straight-up fight. that's what they want. it's either you rape-squad him where he least expects it or you don't interact altogether
INHOUSE0QMSZ0QMSZ0QMSZ
>>567134183no
>>567134183some nigger nvked lobbyGF5JHGF5JHGF5JH
>>567134351still no
>>567133920But then I have to rely on my team to actually finish the fights right?
I can't fucking take it anymore. BUFF SPIRIT
>>567132113melee isn't allowed to be good because 2iq seekers are unable to press F
>>567134080Seven's hands wrote this post.
>>567134542I press F but I just have really bad reaction speed.
Just started playing billy
>>567134776Enjoy eternal (parry stun duration) suffering
>>567134716me too i actually suck at parrying but i have good schmoovement so it doesn't affects me anyways
>>5671343514/12GF5JHGF5JHGF5JH
>>567132113It's almost like melee is meant to be a supplement and not an entire playstyle.
>>567134892What's that? Use my other abilities? Nah, I'll repeatedly heavy melee over and over even if I get parried I'll do it again
anyone able to give me some tips on shiv m2 movement? I got the stuff off ziplines/bounce pads down but for the dash -> slide -> m2 90% from where you want to move stuff I don't know the best timing of jump/slide/shoot to keep the momentum up so I tend to peter out pretty fast
>>567135070gem
The game is shit because melee is weak.
got to arcanist 1 out of alchemist shitlow, and then I get properly raped and sent back to alchemist V
>>567133119Apollo, Drifter, Lash, anyone who wants to perma roam really. You should still catch waves and clear camps/sinners occasionally.
BUFF MELEE
>>567134853Parry this 1 nigga
>>567135362It's weird how Arcanist and Alchemist was absolute hell for 200 hours then Ritualist was practically nonexistent
>>567130041S+lver will never be buriedTOOFUCKINGSTRONG
melee is ____fun____parries are ____fun____
>Infernus on my team>loseEvery single time man these dashies got boosted so hard and they suck ASS
>>567135624They can keep the parry system as it is but melee needs to actually be good for such a punishing system to exist for such a shit playstyle
>>5671348916/12GF5JHGF5JHGF5JH
>i ONLY throw rock>wooooow another paper abuser, wow you're so gooooood dude nice paper scripts>god rock is so weak #nerfpaper
i dont think melee or parries are unbalanced but why the FUCK would you want your game to boil down to rock paper scissors
I rarely engage with melee, only when playing Billy since people preemptively parry whenever I got close so I could get in a heavy melee for free
>>567136049isn't that kinda what pokemon does
Why shouldn't I build rapid recharge+ recharging rush on billy every game?
>>567135707Your problem is you think it's meant to be an entire playstyle where that's all you do.
>>567135962If scissors existed this would be a good argument, but it's rock paper paper right now
>>5671357249/12 InhouseGF5JHGF5JHGF5JH
>>567136291lol
>>567132113All melee (playstyle) nerfs were put in to nerf abrams because he was the only faggot that used melee items aside from viscous. And Viscous was played for his gun + spirit burst not melee, the puddle punch was just for schmoovement.
>keep getting matched into archon lobbiesOh hell nah queue is fucking dead right now
One more for inhouseGF5JHGF5JHGF5JH
>>567132113They're making melee increasingly useless so people aren't mad when parries are eventually removed.
I missed when people actually built scissors instead of rock. Now rock is all you see. We're in some fucked up rock meta where people who build scissors are objectively at a disadvantage, and the devs stopped giving a shit about paper because it ruins their bi-weekly power trips
>>567135962But both scissors AND paper beat rock, though.>>567136560you lied nigger there's two empty slots.
>>567136626some nigger left right as I posted that
>>567136189Recharging rush might be an idea. You're going to buy rapid recharge anyway, you usually time it with your T5 Bashdown so you can just unga bunga.
>>567136560nyo
>>56713572411/12GF5JHGF5JH
I am the haze in the inhousewhat should I build
>>567136779>>567136626we actually need 1 now again tho
>>567136859full spirit
>>567136859I don't fucking know, I don't play Haze, I know what I'm building.
>>567136859echo dagger
>>567136859health, defences and cooldown reduction
>>567136859PUNCH PUNCH PUNCH
>>567136859Merc Mag and then every bullet proc item in the shop
>>567136859usually i would say phantom strike warp stone ult because that's been my meme haze build for months but now it's meta so uh lol
>>567137181>now its metanigga that shit has been meta since march
>>567137219i've been playing it since before you started playing
>>567137307okay lets put that to the test, post the day you got into the game
>>567136859opening rounds slowing hex slowing bullets swift striker then start raping
Deadlock is NOTHING without edgeboosting.
>>567137529may 28th 2024back then that haze build was not a thing though, i think they reworked her ult to allow active item usage while casting around the end of 2024 (before you couldn't use actives while using her ult) and that's when i started using the build
Deadlock is NOTHING without edging to Mommy Geist
>>567137727you're right but i was already playing before they implemented that
THREADLY REMINDER THAT:>ME = UNGA>ME TEAM = BUNGAS
>>567138436yeah but you get the idea
>>567138198Mina...
>>567138441this but unironically
You can tell if someone is a mid player or not based on how they move. Gotta be the most movement intensive lane because of how many rollouts you have to learn.
Geist is unplayable right now
>>567139687seeker btw
>>567135070smartest rusnigger player
farming as support should be a bannable offenseit's on the same game ruining level as just running it down midreport all rem players on sight
Any ShivGODs here? I'm trying to learn him and I'm currently 2-9. Every loss goes the same way, I bully the fuck out of people in lane, I win every teamfight before say 25mins or so by pure brute force. But every single time without fail, in the late game I'm totally useless, I do no damage, I can't confirm any kills, and I blow up super quickly. I have 0 impact at the end of the game, I might as well be afk. What am I doing wrong? This is the build I use
>>567136858>>567136859well I tried
They should simply set people on fire if they enter enemy jungle. Simply add risk instead of giving every player a free pass to siphon every camp and sinner
>>567140307Seven/Victor hands wrote this post
>>567140307nigga or just stop them
My retard team that doesn't farm jungle, doesn't do sinners, and doesn't clear wave:>(Kelvin/Paige/Ivy/Rem) WHY THE FUCK ARE YOU FARMING JUNGLE??Also them:>Yo (Kelvin/Paige/Ivy/Rem) can you buy slowing hex/disarming hex/curse/knockdown/silence wave/rescue beam/divine barrier
>>567140245you need more greens knife in late is not that good max your dash and try to stay full rage before engaging with anyone
I really miss the 4 lane map despite its downsides and I wish they never listened to the players who complained about distance and what not because now everyone is just a few dash jumps away from a obj or team mate. youll really feel this playing drifter where any attempt as playing a jungle assassin is pointless as either theyll reach a tower/walker or another enemy is around the corner and its 100% more effective to just jump people with other players but considering the deathball has been effective since forever whats the point of playing drifter for that role when any hero can do that.
>>567140563You literally cant??? They just rush and kill you???
Paige's fat fucking milkers good god
>>567140245ive been trying to learn him too this past week and im 32 from 58 so its positive and im doing kinda ok. But I also feel like some games im lacking in damage. Some games I win with like 500 damage / min and im going on 2 deaths or something. I feel like lategame he kinda falls off and can get burst down fast.His laning stage before you get rage is weak and my gameplan is to survive early maybe grab a kill or two and then fight for mid game objectives, get the team ahead and try to win out before it goes above 35 mins. Big teamfights are rough, I try to stack knives and build rage before going in dashing through one or two then regenning with 3 and restorative locket and dash out. Look for executes obviously
>someone teabags and shit talks because they are in the lead for lane amd mid game>turn the game around late game (the only state that matters)>either get to spam ez so they seethe or they insta DC before loss so they dont see the shit talk>cum in my pants so hard I almost pass out
What character are canonically futanari?
>>567120734>>567121014>>567135529Downplay sisters... Silverbergs... we're losing the culture war... the goym HATE caninesrael...
>>567139824ascendant actually
>three matches>three losseseeeyup... time to kill myself...
>>567141635venator is a busty boy who wears a binder in combat does that count
>>567141635Celeste is literally trans and tops Silver in back alleys with her girthy gock
>>567141029Hm okay, maybe I'm not paying enough attention to my rage and planning fights around it. And now that you mention it I think I'm just a knife bot early game, so it makes sense that I'm struggling if his knives are bad late game. So at that point you think I should chill in fights until my rage is up, then start dashmaxxing?>>567141324I appreciate the insights. It sounds like your games go similarly to mine but you have a better understanding of how to play the character and that's the difference. I will try to implement both of your guys' advice.
>>567104623Calm down Mina!
>>567141640Why did (You) reply to (Me)
>>567141692this image is tuff! do you mind if i save it?
>>567141635All of them potentially because there's magic
>>567141635celeste has a futa horsecock in both her human and horse forms (canon)
when is the counter buy item for barriers being added?
>>567141719>>567142096Calm down Silver! Don't make me go get you neutered!
>>567141324>His laning stage before you get rage is weakIt's not. Shiv niggers just make the mistake of throwing knives every time they have a charge up or using it as a poke tool. You need to save up and all in with them.
>>567142391>>His laning stage before you get rage is weakI'm so tired of this "gimp yourself in lane so you can rush decay" thing Shivs do
IT'S UP
>>567142498my cock to silvers cheeks?
graves should have had a kit that involved her forcing the opponents to smell her various body parts while insulting them at the same time like calling them a stupid dog anyone agree?
Silver is for straight White men only.Jews and troons HATE this fact!
>>567142589I imagine that Graves smells like cadaverine and putrescine.
will this work?i think this will work
Mating pressing Graves tight teen (18yo) pussy with my old man (31yo) cock
>>567142589That seems more like something Mina would do
We need Graves x Victor interactions and ship artVictor was born yesterday so it's ok
victor suicide pushing has made me play brawl modejust remove that retard hero
Had a good run well into ass 3 but I'm back to people going for abysmal oracle ass builds into full israeli comps building meta.
>>567143460You can just say jewish or faggy, you don't have to say this gay ass israeli or netanyahu shit. You're not on twitch
you just know doorman gives some crazy footjobs
>>567143569I find it funnier, I love spreading antisemitism, not afraid of the faggot or the nigger words.
>>567140265I actually did well the 2nd gamebut I'm too tired, and my head hurts so I'm going to sleep nowhave fun bros
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Edited a meme, didn't see anyone do this yet so, here ya go
GF5JHGF5JHGF5JHIn house JOIN HOLY FUCCCCK
I'm Israeli and I'm offended Mo and Krill player btw
>>567143460>>567143569https://files.catbox.moe/zuo2i9.mp4
>>567142391gonna try this in my lanes from now on. I do think I have a habit on just always throwing one when its up to poke.
>>567143781theres one on reddit where its haze and rem you're too late
Unprotected sex with Graves, forcing her to drop out.
>>567143797any eu in there, whats your ping
>>567143797>PigMe on Seven>TruckMy team asking me to end when I still have camps up
It's been two weeks since the last patch wtf?
>>567143101ill do it when i have time she isnt that hard to draw
>>567144312they're sunsetting the game
>>567144312Me when victor on the enemy team
feed graves
>>567144496hhhnnnngggg.... this brat... seducing me so hard that i let her skulls and ugly bastard zombies kill me...
>>567144312The Valve gay bar index is spiking twust bwo
If I played wc3 dota and dota 2 for like 8 years (I quit 2018ish) and kinda like shooters, would I like this game? How is matchmaking/ranked (assuming it exists)? Is it invaded by huehues yet?
>>567141757Differs from match to match just max knife first, then dash. People usually start buying counter items at 15-20 mins. You can poke people with knives and gather rage check if they have dbr the reason I told you about rage is just you get dmg amp and your dash becomes 2x at max rage. Compress cooldown can let you dash right away if you hit 4 people, only 2 if rage is full and after effect dash also hits them. You just become a blender at that point and have to play around that.
What if Silver 1 was a toggle
>>5671447981. worst matchmaking of any multiplayer game. even worse than marvel rivals. over 1 year and they have no even tried to address it. you will get matched against smurfs in parties even if you are solo2. unless you play hypercarry you will have no agency and its basically pointless
>>567144986What if she permanently dealt insane amounts of damage?
>>567144990even worse than dota 2? how? what's so bad about it? ranked in dota 2 was a nightmare, but at least it had solo queue and regional servers (that spics and ruskies ignored). can you elaborate on the hypercarry thing? snowbally game?
>>567145039Obviously they would have to change the bonus damage if not remove it entirely
What if Billy's melees ignored parries (they should)
>>567145225>What if she could press 1 to...>... not deal any more damage, or get any sort of effect whatsoeverHuh?
>>567145370You get 300% fire rate
What if Silver could toggle to go topless
>>567145105game puts completely new players into the "average" rank and refuses to demote them so people litearlly have like 30% wr and only exist to ruin games
>>567141170>because now everyone is just a few dash jumps away from a obj or team mate.>wants to bring back an even more condensed mapWhat?
>>567140245Build dash to win every indoor fight 1v6 because this game is populated by retarded lemmings
>>567141170>Mina solo lane>doorman solo laneI'd still play it
fun fact: it's called deadlock because the game will be dead soon and servers will be locked
>>567145976>tfw did this in an inhouse once when they tried to stop me from taking their sinners
What if Silver could toggle to go bottomless (and the enemy team would be charmed by the cookie)
How do I ensure that I only get to play Doorman or Drifter? I've played multiple times now and I only get the 3rd retard pick.
>>567146195you cant because the game is reatrded
>>567143870I'm not saying you should never throw a knife. But just remember to make sure you always have the resources to go all in. The same goes for teamfights because your rage makes your shivs ricochet.
a couple of weeks ago i posted that i fell into phantomhappy to announce that playing 5 games this friday and losing them has brought me into oraclesomehow the games are harder than ascendant
>>567146195make both doorman and drifter as double prio
>>567146195Put them on top and mid prio and put whatever stupid hero is being spammed in your rank in lowest prio.
>>567145701yikes, that sounds miserable
>>567146340Uh, bros... Why is Lash here?Isn't he supposed to be honest...?
>>567146340Gun Lash is dishonest because it has all of spirit Lash's strengths but doesn't have to engage with any of the downsides.
I'm playing a new character I'm bad at and dropped enough elo to start hearing girls in vc again, feels nice.
>>567146565This list is missing a certain S++++ hero. I wonder why she doesn't feature here...>>567146340What the fuck is that shit anon
>>567146565god I love how fucking dumb vyp's face is
>>567146313Lol I remember your post, I'm right in the middle of ascendant now and I'm getting people just as retarded as they were back in oracle so make of that what you will. Seems like people get "comfortable" in the middle of ranks (3-4) and start building dumb shit and trying out new heroes and builds so games feels much less sweaty. Or maybe it's just my luck, all I know is that this matchmaking sucks and I've learned to focus only on my own gameplay for when we get actual matchmaking.
>>567146802wrong honesty file lolit's blark from blark and son
>>567146802No one bans Silver because everyone knows she's actually not that strong while being a fair and honest hero.
>>567146195making your third no-priority pick a popular hero is a good ideasetting drifter to regular priority would help ensure you at least get him if not doormanalso doorman's liable to be banned. i'm not clear on how that works necessarilybut it's plausible that it takes place after a match has been found and therefore you can be forced onto a second pick even when the matchmaker finds a game for your high prio pickthat's total conjecture though. i have no actual understanding of how the ban system actually works
>>567146874but every eternus calls her s+ tier, because they don't want the devs buffing her annoying assI'm pretty sure it's also why vegas has been putting lash in the same tier as mina, even though mina is a much more threatening ambush hero
>>567146340>>567146565i dont have an opinion one way or another about whether or not lash is honest but thats nearly half of the entire roster (15 out of 38 is 40%) making him about average by this metric
>>567146948They upplay her to distract from the actually overpowered bullshit heroes they downplay.
>>567146837No matter what it actually looks like, the vyper remodel will always be soulless compared to utter retard face vyper
>apollo lash mina on enemy teamfucking why
>>567147001Dynamo is consistently always in A tier for some reasonGT is like, B tier usuallyit's some bullshit for sure, Haze (hitler) is also in B tier or sometimes even C tier for some reasonI mean fuck we're talking about the same players that will put seven and paige in g tier and be deadass about itit's kinda sad that metro was the only one that actually put dynamo on the strongest tier on a list
Need 1 for inhouseGF5JHGF5JHGF5JH
>>567146154Probably happens all the time after she transforms
>>567147679
>>567144986>>567145039>>567145516>>567146154samefag
>>567147764So true
>>567147865I FUCKIN' KNEW IT
>>567146565Gun lash has mindbroken the masses. His winrate is basically unchanged, it's still almost exactly 50% across all ranks. Any time I see someone bitch about gun lash I know they're actual cattle.
Still 1 more for inhouseGF5JHGF5JHGF5JHGF5JH
In house is up and runningGF5JHGF5JHGF5JH
why dont the mod faggots make a goot matchmaking mod with good anticheat
>>567145838probably the most accurate deadlock chart I've ever seen... this retard knows his smokes
Can Doorman even cum? There's no way he can feel actual human emotions.
>>567148923If he can make doors he can make a working penis surely
just found a larva on one of the raspberries i was eating fuck
>>567149058I think you almost ate a beetlethis thingamabob is what you usually find on raspberries, but this larvae has already reached full maturity and is now a beetle
>>567144990I'm supposedly in oracle and some retarded victor was in my game who didnt build a single bit of bullet resistance not even berserker against a 20-2 drifter he just kept instantly dying to him. Look him up on tracklock and he's ritualist. Not queued with anyone. Why is this absolute baboon in my game and feeding stacks?
>>567116794>4 base staminano bro it gets even better he has the two single best forms of spirit scaling in the game too. he gets movement speed and gun damage from building heavily into spirit. so he's zooming around the map and raping you with 500 damage bullets with 40k spirit investment.
>>567149306congratulations! you got the,>doing too good awardnow you must receive the>doing too good punishment
>>567149635b tier hero according to eternus players btw
>>567149306if the game had to make teams of only one rank it would take 20 minutes for a game
>>567149734That is absolute bullshit. And maybe more people would actually play the game if matches werent ruined by this. I'd rather sit in queue for 20 mins than waste my time for 30 actively playing the worst game imaginable anyway
>>567131759you can aim heavy melee upwards btw and it will hit people above you
>>567149635the best part is that it's +base damage, aka one of the best stat increases you can get4.8k in gun is plenty to make his shit hit hard
>dyanmo refuses to solo ult because he's going for the tik tok game winning ult>doesn't ult ever and we lose
>>567149734okay and? I am in e6 and getting insta que always means some retarded ascendant is gonna feed his ass off
You cannot prove me wrong, deadtards.
>>567149734>>567149867I would UNIRONICALLY rather sit in 20 minute queues watching youtube videos on the side for quality games rather than this shit of "yeah this eternus player was bored and brought some turbo shitter archon into the game who's going to go 0-19 please enjoy"
>>567145989the game had bullshit matchups during 4 lane and the devs were cowards for not breaking the mold of the moba 3 lane. all that would happen if you had a rapist matchup is youd lose tower but then just get to rotate to rape the other bad matchup
>>567149724you can safely assume that every single hero on B tier for an eternus player is something they want to downplay so they can continue abusing it
>>567149986For real, honestly even spamming solo ults as Dynamo has a big impact as tilt potential.
>>567145797people seem to misremember the the 4 lane map being an oval or some shiti guess because everyones movement was so much worse the map felt bigger
>>567150217Full pls
Really is funny how someone will bitch and moan the entire game but as soon as you tell them "shut up faggot" they completely haywire because you said the no no word
>>567150217This looks like AI
I rush magic carpet on Paradox because with carbine you go ZOOOOOOM!
>>567150951only an NA thing btw
>only reason my team is winning is because of me >they always team fight with out me epic fucking game
>>567151204Rusniggers are immune to nigger or faggot but Western Euros tend to take mental damage, especially faggot, for Russian everyone just tells them to go die in the war/get drafted
>>567150830>>567151125https://e621.net/posts/6402156
>>567151324That's why I'm a perma brooler. I dont care any more. Play mirage if you care about wave management
Isn't Mina insanely S-tier?
how do i tell whether i lost because i itemised poorly, took shit fights, didn't manage waves properly, didn't farm enough, or because teammates went 3/11like i know there are plenty of things i could be doing better but how do i tell which one is the main outlier to fix
>>567151681yep, lane rapist that also gets to do 4000 damage to you with every ult while silencing and slowing you all throughout on a 70s cd while also getting triple quantum entanglement because sure why not
>>567151543>human genitaliaYUCK
>>567151835She is a human in that picture so it makes sense when you think about it
>make full orange buildeffortlessly melt down players with the only downtime being reloads>make full purple buildunleash my full combo to do 20-30% of a players HP while I get to now spend 10-20 seconds completely helpless
>>567151885see>>567136582
>>567151865she has some wolf features in her human form so it's not impossible that she'd have a cookie in human form + it would be infinitely hotter
>hypercarry throws the game to preserve their KDimagine the ego
>>567151543Thanks. I love this dog.
>>567151885The only hero this is true for is lash and victor. The rest are all pretty heavily in spirit meta. Buy e-shift to wait out your cooldowns you scrub
>>567152274I throw the game so I can keep farming
Just hit ascendant 1 playing mostly drifter, now what?
>>567152573If spirit drifter, based. If gun drifter, kill yourself
>>567152573Now play someone else and ruin it
>>567152691toxic bullets spirit drifter is the most based way to play him
i love how these nigger paradoxi and sinclair faggots always post "le epic" clips of them stealing rejuv. maybe if you weren't playing a throw pick you wouldn't be in that situation
>>567153121Escalating exposure superior duration toxic bullets. The holy trinity for based drifter gameplay
>>567153280you're that "word" guy that played drifter and raped me at the last inhouse, aren't you
Need 2 for inhouseGF5JHGF5JHGF5JH
>>567153351No I dont join inhouses cause I dont find unbalanced MMR games fun
>>567153384yeah but being frank here isn't vanilla mmr just fucked to begin with?
>>567153384nigger thats every single game you queue
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>>567153456>>567153463I'd say 60% of games are fine. 20% Are god awful 20% Are close and perfectly matched
>>567151746watch the replay and analyze your gameplay and the decisions you make.if you want to get real schizo, you can record your gameplay and commentate your decisions out loud and use that insteadeither way, the lens you should be using isn't to take a bad outcome and reverse engineer it, but instead to look at the moments where you can make a decision and evaluating what would've been the best one to make. the results are secondary to this process, looking at the outcome is only one piece of the puzzle. good choices can result in bad outcomes and vice versa. the important thing is the thought process, thinking about what is *most likely* to result in a good outcomethe specifics get a little muddy and this all draws on your own understanding of the game so it might not always be clear to you what the """right""" answer is in a given situation. like "what should i have built instead" can be an easy answer or a tricky one. "why did we lose" is also another pretty complicated one, but it's a moba so usually it's either key mistakes early, running out of steam in the mid-game through inaction, or just mid-to-late throws. that middle one is important if you get a strong lead early and find yourself unable to turn that into a win.but this is a skill you can build up through being consistently analytical, both in and out of game. and crucially, through looking at the decision making of stronger players.if you see someone in your match on either team start to pop off (and maintain that lead!), watch them. and think about what they're doing, why they're doing it, and why they were able to do it. watch streams or vods of players that think out loud.vods of coaching sessions can be very useful tooalso. don't stress about your teammates. you are not their coach, you are not scrimming with them. they can be fuckups and be the cause of good-decisions-bad-outcomes. but you can also very well be responsible for them shitting the bed in some contexts
Who all needs weapon remodels?Other than Warden, Kelvin, and Viscous using the Neon Prime blasters
oh and you're looking for patterns. that's the easiest thing to identify and focus to improve. whether you fight too much, or not enough, or aren't being aware of what's happening near you, choosing poor paths of farming, catching your self autopiloting L-R builds when there's key items that would've changed the game, and so on.and it's an iterative process. once you're aware of the mistake and resolve to improve it, well you won't instantly stop doing it but you're primed to notice and correct. and once you feel like you're good on that, keep iterating. look for the next thing
>>567154476Holliday
Is it worth building gun at all on mokrill besides maybe fleetfoot/mr?
who does he main?
>>567154476>bebop and calico (kind of included in their base models)>grey talon (nerf bow)>haze>holliday>kelvin>lash (weapon unchanged with model update)>mokrill>paradox>pocket>seven>sinclair>shiv>vindicta>viscous>vyper>warden>wraith>yamatothey've purposefully broken the materials on some of the weapons like holliday to use as a reminder to remodel them later
>>567154693Warden
>>567154693Yeah, Warden player
>IN A FEW SECONDS, IT WILL ALL BE OVER!https://youtu.be/CRrZWoBc860
>Wraith is just good at every point in the gameMake it make sense.
>>567154863i'm also like 80something percent sure geist's gun is just the l'etranger from tf2
>>567132113NO YOU DON'T GET IT BRO WE CAN'T MAKE MELEE CHARACTERS BECAUSE UH UH UH UHHHHH SHUT THE FUCK UP OKAY??? THEY'RE LITERALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO BALANCE OR MAKE. NOW QUEUE UP WE GOT A FIRE WALLBREAKER VICTOR GAME IN WHICH HE WILL IGNORE LITERALLY EVERY SINGLE PART OF THE GAME AND SUICIDEBOMB YOUR PATREON INTO OBLIVION WHILE GOING FULL GUN.and people swear that icefrog knows what he's doing dear god. actual battered wives.
>>567154649If my team has less than 2 people building for gun damage I'll pick up the swift striker/intensifying/titanic mag 4.8k. I already got QSR during the lane and you deal a surprising amount of damage.If my team has gun carries, alch fire, hunter's aura or heroic aura work well.Lategame Spiritual Overflow is worth it after they moved the duration away from being conditional.
My roster is increasing now. Shiv is surprisingly fun, I thought he was a lategame farmslopper but he's a midgame rapist as well like my other picks. Also, there should be a way to order priority instead of having to coinflip like this.
>>567155190Victor needs to have a 90% damage reduction to structures for 20 seconds after respawning
>>567155190icefrog isn't the one balancing the game. the way this game is balanced it feels like a league of legends team
Just picked Silver.Sorry in advance, everyone.
>>567155395Just picked wallbreaker VictorI'm gonna give rape you so hard it'll induce a miscarriage of your whole litter, lil pup
>>567154863>they've purposefully broken the materials on some of the weapons like holliday to use as a reminder to remodel them lateryeah in the same way they removed viscous' anvil punch lmfao get fucking real dude they just broke it and ain't bothering fixing it
>>567155384tell that to the other retards in this general whenever they bring up yoshi or how this game will make gangbusters because it has THE icefrog (yoshi) behind it then. i called day one that victor's kit was completely unbalanceable even if it was fun and fit the character like a dream but i never expected them to be so blatantly fucking retarded going around rebalancing him that they'd make him into a full gun hero that suicide bombs into structures. at least last time spirit victor was meta he needed a bit of investment before doing this shiti STILL don't understand why people say a full melee hero wouldn't work when we have shit like this going around in the game.
>>567155659they aren't working on the current viscous' animations at all because he's green kelvin and they're changing his body shape
>>567155908you're implying that they're also not gonna rework the shit outta holliday's model? like you realize in your pick they just switched from kelvin's animations to dynamo's right?
>>567155908viscous didn't have the anvil to begin with they added that in a patch sometime last year so they clearly still fuck around with models' animations even if they're not their final ones. same with yamato's new reload and fire animations.
>>567155828i have played dota since beta this doesn't feel like it's being balanced by icefrog and i think icefrog would be in his forties this feels like bruno balancing
>>567155981they might, but she's going to retain similar proportions>>567156053yamato and holliday will reuse their current, unique animations in the same way that you can recognize the seven animations on silver
>>567156127it just feels like post 7.00 dota balancing to me which still had icefrog desu
>>567156171there's no fucking way they keep that dogwater reload animation for holliday. shit looks like a blender test
need 2 for inhouseGF5JHGF5JHGF5JH
>>567157063>>567157063>>567157063move when ready
>>567142831pretty rad
>>567132113Because parrying makes you stand still for a full second and can kill you, meleeing someone trying to run away is basically a checkmate.
>>567161974>Because parrying makes you stand still for a full second and can kill youyou don't know how to IAD parry? it's literally just IAD + parry lol
