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>want to look like a kriegsman for free edition

Previously on /coopg/: >>566926047

>Latest News/Updates

Darktide:
Hotfix 1.11.6 - Patch Notes
https://forums.fatsharkgames.com/t/hotfix-1-11-6-patch-notes/121381
Kuli's guides for beginners:
https://steamcommunity.com/id/kulii/myworkshopfiles/?section=guides&appid=1361210

Space Marine 2:
Hotfix 12.3 Patch Notes
https://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/381-hotfix-12-3-patch-notes
Dude Wall
https://dudewall.github.io/dude-wall/

Vermintide 2:
Hotfix 6.9.2 patch notes
https://store.steampowered.com/news/app/552500/view/523109140338311330

>Also Exist:
Deep Rock Galactic
Helldivers 2
Payday
The Outlast Trials
Starship Troopers Extermination
Aliens: Fireteam Elite
Killing Floor 2
Barotrauma
Left4Dead 2
Ready Or Not
GTFO
No More Room in Hell 2
Remnant 2
Back4Blood
Earth Defense Force 6
WWZ
The Forever Winter
FBC: Firebreak
Killing Floor 3
Daimon Blades
John Carpenter's Toxic Commando
Far Far West:
and others

>Future games
Den Of Wolves - TBA
DarkSwarm - TBA
Blight: Survival - TBA
Deep Dish Dungeon - TBA

>Build planners:

Vermintide 2: http://ranaldsgift.com/
Deep Rock Galactic: http://karl.gg/
Darktide: https://darktide.gameslantern.com/build-editor
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>>567232275
>Is a chapter getting involved really that big a deal?
Yes. Magnuson said in the 2025 summer interview that space marines will never be added because if marines are being deployed, then it means all bets are off and the Imperium is going just be flattening the entire of Atoma.
Aka, if space marines are getting deployed, both the game and story ARE over.
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True Grit?
More like True Shit!
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>>567232727
Space marines arrive on atoma, trailer for SM3 starts.
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>>567232708
>Trapper's attack is coded as a melee attack.
So surely you can block it right? At the very least perfect block it?
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Whatever happened to psyker-chan?
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>>567233030
:)
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>>567233095
She was impregnated by my ogryn and are now happily raising a family together
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>>567198623
>It got hit by multiple nerfs even though it didn't deserve a single one
How powerful could it have possibly been compared to his other options? Half the time the dog will take too long getting into the right position and by then the enemies have dispersed or they're dead outright.
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>>567233095
Killed himself, hopefully.
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>>567233095
he now permanently lives in helldivers general, being told to kill himself literally every time he posts his ebony android that isn't even remotely helldivers related
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They're the same guy?
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>>567234393
avatarfagging is the single rule jannies should enforce and they just don't, it's sad
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>>567234393
I would feel bad for them, but helldivers players fucking deserve it. Genuinely the biggest bunch of insufferable fucking niggers to plague just about any game. Whiniest bunch of fucking losers that suck shit at their own game.
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Darktide should've been a perma death game.
Everytime your character dies, it gets deleted and you have to start over and re-level and collect all your weapons for that character/class.
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>>567235404
Anon, that's fucking retarded.
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>>567235404
I hate to suggest yet another gamemode but that would be a fun concept for a gamemode. Roguelike and you play a different reject each time because the meme is you're cannonfodder
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>>567235404
You can do that on your own. Just delete your character every time you die and let us know how retarded it is.
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>>567235469
>>567235527
Shitters already quivering in their boots knowing they wouldn't be able to cut it.
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>>567235295
I feel really called out right now. Are you sure I'm not the worst person on the internet anymore?
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>>567235727
Sure thing, bwo. You can be a hardcore gamer forever deleting your characters by yourself and I'll be over here playing my character.
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>>567235404
You should be perma dead irl
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>>567235404
No More Room In Hell 2 is doing this. It's okay, but kind of pointless. It's mostly just losing your character to disconnects. I have become an absolute sweatlord on more than one occasion in last man standing situations just to save my character, though.
But you're not being serious so I'm not sure why I bothered
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>>567235295
Its honestly really funny watching all of them go into complete meltdown mode when they changed hive guards.
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>>567232727
>>567235295
True
>>567233497
Didn’t happen
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>>567236082
They've been having meltdowns since the game released. I've never seen a game with a more divided dev team and community. The playerbase wants fun time happy hour """chill""" gaming but refuses to interact with the built in difficulty slider because their egos won't allow them to play on anything but the highest difficulty. Yet when there's anything that can't be solved by their overpowered jack of all trades loadout they freak the fuck out and throw shit all over the place. It's fucking pathetic. The community is filled with disingenuous liars and faggots. If I were AH I would despise my playerbase because they will literally never be happy.
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>>567235295
worse than us?
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>>567236740
There is no "us", faggot
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>>567236740
Yes. At least coopg is (mostly) good at the games they play.
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The next few weeks are gonna be so cool if you just ignore the sperging brownoids on coopg
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>>567236914
hahaha
hahahahahahahahaha
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rogue core reviews are gone
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>>567232275
>Not going to happen since SM2 has that area covered
SM2 also sucks dick because it's just a mindless Bamham with the least fun possible shooting mechanics tacked on. There's a reason why 90% of that game's audience are console kids.
So just let a man dream there's ever going to be a fun official Space Marine multiplayer game.
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>>567238805
>with the least fun possible shooting mechanics tacked on
It also has some of the least fun melee mechanics considering that the melee is 90% reactive because it's built around parries and stupid ass fucking gun strikes.
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Crazy how we're actually getting sisters of battle in 7 months
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>>567235295
>>567238805
>>567238986
I'm beginning to think your relationship with darktide is unhealthy
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I gotta admit, this game is growing on me. I think it has potential to be one of the greats.
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Subsonic blades being idle should only make a sound only audible to other skitarii for MAXIMUM IMMERSION
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>>567239609
Transphobic blades should say "youwillneverbeawoman" when swung
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>>567238986
Yeah, a Bamham. They don't even do anything fun with it.
It baffles me that /sm2g/ survived for so long.
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>>567239736
>Bamham
Oh, I wasn't familiar with this term. I'd never played the Batman games. Makes perfect sense. If SM2 had fun melee I'd still be playing it from time to time, even with it's lackluster gunplay. Unfortunately your space marine feels like his armor is made of cardboard and his melee weapons made of styrofoam. Just a total joke.
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>>567232967
>every match of space marine 3 is a co-op asym with one space marine player and 4 darktide players
would be insanely hype
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>>567238805
I don’t disagree, I’m just saying it’s unlikely they’ll seriously look into a marine concept if they feel that buffet is already being done better and being eaten by more people
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>>567240026
>his melee weapons made of styrofoam.
This is probably the biggest let down of Space Marine. They give you all these mean looking weapons and they do fuck all, because not only all enemies are sponges, since the game really wants you to get those executions (that get stale after you've seen the same two animations 50 times each, which is totally possible in one match) it puts further damage resistance on enemies below the execution treshold so you don't "miss out".
Also, every enemy attack has hyper armor so at times it feels like your attacks have literally zero effect because the enemy is not even reacting at all to your attacks.
At that point needing to unload half your ammo reserve from a generic assault rifle with tons of random spread masquerading as a bolter into a basic enemy just to put them into execution state is just a cherry on top.
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>>567242452
>Also, every enemy attack has hyper armor so at times it feels like your attacks have literally zero effect because the enemy is not even reacting at all to your attacks.
This is easily the biggest offender of the melee combat. Your weapons have no real feedback. If they FELT like they were doing something even if the damage was low it wouldn't be as much of an issue, but you are actively discouraged from ever swinging your weapon because all that's going to happen is that you'll eat an attack in turn, and that attack is doing far more to you than you're doing to the enemy. So really all you can actually do is stand around with your limp cock in your hand waiting to parry or blocking attacks and every once in a while managing to get a few swings in. It just feels like complete and total shit. It's like some asshole saw the doom eternal finishers, thought that was totally epic awesome, and then built the combat around the gun strikes without realizing the game surrounding them fucking sucks.
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Imagine going from tide combat to poopybutt space marine 2 combat
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>>567235404
I agree however, I disagree. Your character dies, but depending on your account level, you get to pick a higher tier of character/gear to recruit, and you buy new weapons every time with your credits. Sort of like hoont, but you don't need to level your character up. Or maybe you do, but the idea is just to give your character that expendable feel.
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>>567243720
You should be raped
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>>567243129
>stand around with your limp cock in your hand waiting to parry or blocking attacks
The funniest part is when you do that you'll notice the enemies will stop attacking for some reason which leads to extremely hilarious situations where your Space Marine is casually standing surrounded by a horde of Tyranids for 30 seconds at a time before someone makes a move.
The only reason this isn't the optimal way to play is because enemy ranged enemies still shoot you and they're infinitely more dangerous than melee enemies because it pierces armor, leaves thorn traps that slow and damage you or staggers the fuck out of you on top of eating half your health bar in one go and the only answer you have is to rollslop that shit.
Chaos is even worse because the basic heretic infantryman who dies on contact with you gets the sniper rifle ability that takes away half your HP so against Chaos Marines just move everywhere by rolling to avoid getting shot by lasguns.
If they spent half the effort they did on trying to make the screenshots look cool on actual gameplay maybe they'd have an actual game in addition to their screenshots.
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they should add a necron faction where every enemy has carapace armor
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>>567244384
Yea, the whole gameplay loop is just baffling. I genuinely have no idea how nobody at any point in the dev cycle realized the problems with the gameplay. I'm not asking for my weapons to insagib every tyranid I swing it at or a single round from a bolter to act like a howitzer, but give me fucking anything man. At least the pvp is kinda fun for a bit since your weapons, you know, actually do something.
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>>567244470
Cum potion, lend me vigor!
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>>567244470
the average necron warrior is too strong for them to be a full faction
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Necrons except they're Negrons and are just a bunch of niggers
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>>567246102
We wuz fleshys
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>>567246102
they used to pick space cotton for the c'tan...
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>rejectfags STILL coping
You LOST the players were NEVER rejects!
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>>567240026
>I'd never played the Batman games
Arkham Asylum is a great game, Kevin Conroy and Mark Hamill chewing the scenery is peak nostalgia, and the stealth mechanics where you pick off each guy one at a time and the remaining goons get paranoid is tons of fun.
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>>567247390
it seems the rejects were the players all along
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>>567247390
>the players were NEVER rejects!
This isn't true thoughever
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>>567232089
My friend and I are thinking about getting Core Keeper. I fully expect him to dip out within a few hours. So how is the game for coop and eventually solo?
Or should I fuck off to indie?
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>it's skitarii
>not sister of battle
boo
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>>567248349
Play darktide
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>>567248349
sir, this is the darktide general, no one here knows about any other co-op games except surface level knowledge they use to complain about them so they can feel better about only playing darktide
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>>567248487
skitzos have more potential. Sisters of battle would just be a reskinned zealot.
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>>567248487
Shitters of butthole in 7 months
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>>567248571
I know, sisters would also theoretically be a little game breaking I guess
I just wish they had a good game
>>567248883
I hope, I really love the nuns
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>>567244153
Haha I wish ;3
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>>567247513
Just did a replay of the Arkham series and they're pretty kino for capeshit, although I hate it when Batman states the obvious at times, though its only really a huge problem in Arkham Knight.
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>>567248516
>>567248538
oh... okay
well, its not what were looking for right now. but ill jot it down
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>that is LITERALLY a sister of battle
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>>567235404
Darktide should have had single player LIKE THEY FUCKING SAID IT WOULD
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The journey of Darktide Trailer
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yUgMxwqpiBQ
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>>567249632
The truth has changed. Pray that they do not alter it further
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>>567249505
don't actually play darktide, it's fucking dead and somehow costs $64, soon to be $76
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>>567249684
Teaser for a teaser in 5 days
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>>567249684
for what purpose does this exist? It's teasing an announcement.
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>>567249585
that looks like klovis the redeemer than a sister of battle
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>>567249731
kek
alright then. I'll pop over to /indie/ for an answer. thanks fren
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>>567250245
to show us how much we have to be grateful for. how much we as a community have grown closer to each other, and to thecompany known as the fatshark. and that there's still so much more products to come.
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Do weapons in darktide have different base stamina, and is there anywhere I can see these stats?
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>The level 810 Hive Scum is the worst player on the team
how
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>>567251657
Because hes SCUM
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>>567251639
yes, you can check it in the inspect screen for a weapon. It'll tell you how many stamina bricks it adds to your class base stamina. How much stamina does your base class give you? Doesn't tell you! You have to check gameslantern for that :) https://darktide.gameslantern.com/classes
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>>567251657
How much does that guy play to be 810 on scum already
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>>567251657
because he just speedruns auric with +experience curios, might even do map skips and OoB exploits on dead african servers.
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>>567252809
that sounds extraordinarily fucking lame
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>>567252809
that sounds extraordinarily fucking based
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>>567247016
KEK
>>567247513
>>567249343
There’s a reason it’s still the gold standard for capeshit games. The combat system still keeps being copied to this day.
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>>567253346
>There’s a reason it’s still the gold standard for capeshit games
Because they can steal the design and normies have no standards?
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>>567253346
Arkham City was fun as well, but the combat ended up getting too much with too many gadgets needed to disarm or open up enemies. Asylum was the sweet spot with the gadgets, but city did have better bamham combos. It was also fun putting the code in to unlock the alt costumes and gliding through the city in the batman beyond suit.
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>>567249684
>teaser for an anouncement of an anouncement
I hate the swedish so god damned much
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>Open game
>Play expeditions
>Remember why I stopped
>Close game
I need to stop trying to like this shit game mode
Can we just get an actual content drop
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>>567254041
Bro, you're getting a whole ass class next month. Chill
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>>567254041
skulls announcement will save the game don't worry
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>>567232089
>come back to darktide after a long break to get ready for the new class
>text chat filled with trans flag colored giant letters from some narcissistic attention whore
have mods gone too far? wtf happened sigh time to turn text chat off
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>>567253759
member when they delayed scum's teaser teaser
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>>567254816
>wahhh trans people play my co-op game
filtered
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>>567254816
I've recently had the displeasure of a guy in my social circle trooning out and they really are all like that. Seems like the hormones fuck something up in the brain and turns them histrionic and needy for attention, or they were always like that deep down I guess.
>sigh
Typing out sigh makes you sound like a faggot.
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Maelstrom sure brings our the retards
>"Psyker it's a team game"
>"You're literally playing solo"
>-Zealot that died alone while psyker and I held a position
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>>567256750
Zealot thinks he's the center of the team everyone needs to assemble around.
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4 and a half days to skitarii reveal!!!!!
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>>567256562
Was he an autist? It’s been proven that the overwhelming majority of those people are on the spectrum. Like, a good a majority. Either that or being ‘self aware’ enough to pretzel twist themselves.
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>>567260793
Don't know for sure, but it's probably a safe bet
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>>567256562
The venn diagram between autism and transgenderism is almost a circle. There's something like a 99% overlap between them, so whenever you see a tranny acting like a socially retarded attention seeking sperg, its just the autism.
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>guy leaves because he went down when the mission was over
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Is it ever established which Primarch is the most powerful? They all seemed to be kind of evenly matched. And did the traitor/Daemon Primarchs get any cool new toys or powers after they sold their souls to their respective space Satans?
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>>567261339
Probably going for one of the don't die penances.
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>>567261350
Horus while being possessed by the gods was.
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>>567261350
Magnus is strictly the strongest overall by the end of the heresy, none of the other primarchs have the sheer juice to punch a hole in the webway. Otherwise, they all have their specialties and whether or not they win in a fight largely depends on forcing a situation they excel in. Pre-heresy, it was Sanguinius.
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>>567261387
Maybe. It was a zealot that would rather shoot individual bruisers with his revolver than dare go into melee, but he hadn't fully died throughout the mission until that point
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>>567261559
Remember that one time Big E seduced Horus in the middle of their fight?
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>>567253496
>Because they can steal the design
from who?
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>>567261350
>Is it ever established which Primarch is the most powerful?
Not really but probably current Corvus
>And did the traitor/Daemon Primarchs get any cool new toys or powers after they sold their souls to their respective space Satans?
Yes but it was package deal, you get the gods strengths and weaknesses. Plus you're shackled to them forever.
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>>567261350
I assume you mean minus Chaos Horus? Because it’s definitely him by like, leaps and bounds
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>>567256562
>person who was repressed feels like expressing themselves after becoming liberated
Wow really hard to crack that psychological nut. And back in my day every game's general chat was filled with the most random shit yet nobody crashed out over it.
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>>567266890
But do you trannies have to be so creepy and obnoxious about it?
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>>567266890
>erm just let me be an annoying gross faggot
Fuck off
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>>567266890
He's turned into an insufferable theatre kid, diva and sexual deviant whose every interaction with a person can be summed up as a manipulation to receive validation, and due to that, has driven practically every one of his close friends away asides from a handful of sycophants egging him on to further mutilate himself. He was vulnerable and suffered depression, now he is manic, unhinged and destroying himself physically. It is an undeniably tragic thing to watch happen to someone you care about and I hate people like you whose only response to this is to make catty remarks about it. Cosmetic surgery won't give him or any other transvestite what they're looking for, it's simply an irreversible act of self mutilation that requires lifelong medication and repeat surgeries until the pain is too much and they kill themselves. Fuck you.
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>>567266890
Back in my day people made chuck norris jokes and didnt make everything about themselves.
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>>567267397
Trannies have very high rates of narcissism and the endless validation of their delusions further feeds into their narcissistic tendencies
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>mentally ill people are mentally ill
What a twist!
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>>567267816
The time for tolerance is over. They all have to ACK
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>>567249632
Sometimes devs goals change.
Solomode is useless shit regardless and nobody would play it.
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>>567247390
You are a penal legion moron reject and always will be.
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>>567249585
>nah bro this insane religious fanatic with a chainsword would totally be so different from this other insane religious fanatic
The devs aren't clever enough, let alone creative enough to come up with anything decent. They'd just make SoB into another melee class like zealot but tankier. Aka they'd make arbites again.
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>>567249684
What?
Did they really just make a slight montage just so they could repost that original teaser snippet again?
Why?
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>>567266890
It's better if you faggots stay repressed and normal, because you are all fucking insufferable to be around otherwise.
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>>567235295
well put
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>>567270576
>officially accepted into the inquisition at the same time the traitor was found
WHY DOES NOBODY REMEMBER THAT?!
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>>567271150
You are still a penal legion moron who only exists to be expendable muscle.
>b-but i got a shiny bauble! IM IMPORTANT
What are you? A fucking indian?

Nevermind that you joined the very organization whose motto might as well be:
>"Innocence proves nothing."
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>>567271301
>You are still a penal legion moron who only exists to be expendable muscle.
You are as expendable as Zola, Morrow and Brunt once were. You literally got a great big WELCOME TO THE INQUISITION. Enough with this grunt fantasy fetish you've got going on.
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>>567244384
do you still play the game?

>The funniest part is when you do that you'll notice the enemies will stop attacking for some reason which leads to extremely hilarious situations where your Space Marine is casually standing surrounded by a horde of Tyranids for 30 seconds at a time before someone makes a move.
you can provoke an attack by either faint parrying/dodging or shooting.

>leaves thorn traps that slow and damage you or staggers the fuck out of you on top of eating half your health bar in one go and the only answer you have is to rollslop that shit.
You can delete thorns by shooting the green goo in the center, or stomping if you play heavy.

> the basic heretic infantryman who dies on contact with you gets the sniper rifle ability that takes away half your HP
you hear a sound cue and see a light ray when you get targeted by a sniper, you just need to dodge once and he will shoot and miss. Rollslopping just aggroes everyone around you.

cheers
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>>567272580
No, you're still an expendable retard who only exists to catch bullets.
You're not important and never will be. You're an eternal shitter whose job is to smack zombies in a sewer because that's the only thing you're good for.
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>>567272580
>You literally got a great big WELCOME TO THE INQUISITION.
The same inquisition who has genuinely said "Innocence proves nothing." you're forever a dipshit that exists to die.
You got pressganged into joining the glownigger organization of the Imperium who looks at everything from a "End justifies the means" point of view as a bottom rung member who is only above a servitor in importance.
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>>567273658
>>567273926
You people do not play the game, or if you do, you're too retarded to connect statements to the value of our guys once we've joined the warband.
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>>567249684
Darktide 2 soon
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>>567274906
Launch classes include
>Tempestus Scion
>Skitarii
>Sister of Battle
>Ogryn (again) with voice lines implying he's the only survivor of the original four
>Arbites (must have bought DLC for first game) but it's been heavily nerfed into uselessness
>Exclusive bonus ONLY available for preorder and NEVER again: Space Marine Neophyte
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time for some snazy snunday snorevocs..
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>>567272580
Inquisitorial Retinues aren't all equal. If you are an Acolyte in a travelling Inquisitor's retinue that consists of like ten guys tops and the guy knows you personally, they might like you enough that you aren't fully expendable.
In a mass thing like Grendyl's (or Rannick's really) where there are thousands of others herded together with you to wage a more direct battle against the enemies of Imperium the best you'd get is Morrow going "shame, they were good soldiers... send in the next team!".
I mean sure, you have taken the first step in a loooooooooooooooooong road to maybe becoming actually important but that shit takes decades, centuries even of working for the Inquisition.
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>>567275739
We literally have Grendyl's confidence.
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>>567274551
>but we joined the warband!
Yeah, the warband who is part of the organization that says verbatim "Innocence proves nothing."
You're still a expendable shitter who exists to die.
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>>567276287
See >>567275796
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>>567275796
You have my utmost confidence in that you are a moron.
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>>567276451
>nooo my grunt fantasy
You WILL be special
You WILL be the savior of Atoma
You WILL like it
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>>567255246
>wahhh chuds play my co-op game
filtered
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>>567276510
Shan't.
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but I like the idea of playing as an expendable grunt fodder
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Every time I see a retarded shit-flinging argument occurring here over shit that doesn't matter I'm reminded of this image.
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>>567277708
ok cool
but your favorite game still sucks and my favorite game is the best one
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I'm expandable
*blows up like a giant balloon and rolls over you*
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>>567277708
Yes, 4chan is full of autistic misfits having the same arguments over and over again. This isn't an epiphany.
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>>567275796
Yeah, his confidence that you're a bullet catching dipshit.
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the real adventure was making the enemies into bullet catching dipshits all along
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so it's been 4 years
does veteran have his stubber yet
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>>567284479
We added 3 new stubguns and 3 new shotguns into the game! No, none of them are available for the veteran.
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>>567233758
It could inflict max bleed with bolt pistol back when bleed was good. Otherwise it was the same, had 1 more charge and that's it.
They gutted it because they had a rage boner for everything related to bleed because fatshark interns can't code and made dog bleed's base damage double the normal amount, and instead of fixing it, they nerfed bleed for everyone else, and gutted everything that triggered bleed on arbites too.
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any day now though, just 2 more weeks o algo...
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>>567248349
late reply but I recommend against it. Game is pretty and fun at first but unless all you care about is making pretty bases you won't enjoy it a lot.
The gameplay is very boring. You go to a zone, you find the boss, you kill it. This is fun at first but that's literally every single area, and you get your BiS items very early so it'll just feel like you're going through the motions.
The game isn't like terraria where you get different weapons for every content tier you can mess around with. There's like 4 minion weapons period. You're meant to upgrade your weapons and armors to keep using them forever which makes later boss drops pointless, adding to the feeling of going through the motions.
The weapons are extremely imbalanced. There is no point in using anything but the mining laser which doubles as a melee weapon that works at range, thus getting the best of all worlds. You just burn down everything with this. Most weapons are pointless reskins of the same club you got at level 1 so there's no point switching.
Bosses are imbalanced too. The last 5 bosses just get insta burned down by said laser. The first few bosses are tanky as hell.
"Progression" in this game orewise boils down to finding a big ore node, then putting 8 drills around it. Then you just afk until the ore is drilled which takes some hours. Thisi s why everyone giving the game a bad review has 100 hours, you have to afk as part of the core gameplay or you don't have ore to upgrade and repair your shit.
the story is stupid and nonexistant. The whole story is "you're trying to find a way to the surface" but nigger you're a miner in a cave. You could just dig up logically

The game is also unfinished. Despite being version 1.3 or something, after the robot boss we went to the next area. The next area was just an empty room with a placeholder graphic in it. The placeholder graphic said "come back in a later update for this content!" like it's an early access game.
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>>567270926
>>567250245
>>567253759
It's a tencent thing. Look at how PoE 2 has been advertising, daily little teasers that show or tell you nothing
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>>567285452
They literally added the weapon they were talking about though. It's the power falchion, remember? The one where they copypasted the relic blade and gave it some devils claw moves and called it a day
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>feel like I'm doing fuck all
>top score
>feel like I'm kicking ass and taking names
>sub-100 score
This mod makes no sense.
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>>567286661
disable the score part and it'll make perfect sense. The author put extremely autistic score calculations in. Just for some example
>blocking lots of enemies inflates your score hard because standing in a corner blocking is supposedly a good play
>taking a med station decreases your score HEAVILY so if you take your 4th medicae charge because there's no reason not to, you lose score
>staggering enemies generates more score than killing them so you want to be pushing every poxwalker twice

just an autistic german who designed it
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>>567286661
If you're talking about the darktide scoreboard with default settings made by some retarded German stoner, then yes, the score summary is completely retarded and arbitrary and informed by dude weed lmao.
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>join an inferno game
>accidentally click vanguard but that means free heals ig
>help the randoms clear house
>they start getting bombarded by biovores
>grapple in and incapacitate them one at a time, lose a lot of health to random spores that probably didn't even exist prior to exploding
>the assault (on full health) instantly steals every execute each time
>call him jewish
>he stops to start typing
>leave
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>>567286661
I end up the same way playing tf2
>AAAAIIIIEEEEEEEE THAT'S NOT A COOP GAME MODS EXPLODE THIS NIGGA'S PENIS NOW!
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I had a terrible dream last night. It was about Tripwire making yet another Killing Floor game but this time is was a weird PvPvE game where you killed zeds and other players in different teams.
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>>567287149
luckily tripwire probably doesn't have enough money to ever make another game again
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>>567287135
Anon... look down...
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>>567286661
DoT scores count for the first person who applies stacks on an enemy, so if you have multiple flame psykers or toxin scum in a team the scoreboard won't reflect their gameplay accurately. The only real scores you should care about are damage taken and teammates revived, since only those reflect on whether the player is a complete retard or not.
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>>567287532
>damage taken and teammates revived
Nope, not even those. Just being ogryn or having health investment on your build massively inflates the damage taken number, and it's absolutely possible to have >1k damage taken while having zero downs and only a handful of medicae uses.
Revives aren't all that meaningful either, because those can be gamed, too. Pressing a button on veteran doesn't mean the player is competent, and neither does maxing revive speed on your curios. It also doesn't mean you're contributing because reviving a useless retard has no actual positive consequences besides maybe distracting enemies for another 10 seconds.

The truest trackable score that matters is usually ammo pickups taken (in context with how effective your weapons are; smaller number is better) in correlation to damage done, and objectives completed. I'd also count specialists killed and boss damage to a lesser extent.

Raw damage done is still useful in the context that someone who is barely at 1/3 of the next player is probably just a shit player, but fodder kills isn't exactly something I pay attention to.
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>>567287135
I dub thee Exploded Penis Anon
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>join a low level havoc because I cant be arsed to play right now, but dont want my 40 to derrank
>mission starts
>boss spawns
>all 3 players immediately scatter like cats across the room for no discernible reason leaving me to deal with the captain alone
>try to bring it to an ally thats just standing in a corner shooting at poxwalkers with his plasma and he immediately runs away instead of helping me hit the captain
>by the time I kill the captain an ogre spawns and expectedly they have me solo it as well as they run around the sewer like cats
>someone else goes down and he immediately alt+F4s
These people are playing an entirely different game, and I don't know what it is.
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>>567289278
>These people are playing an entirely different game, and I don't know what it is.
They are playing the darktide the devs are balancing around. The intended way to play darktide. On a controller, with an IQ lower than the default FoV, while blasting music loud enough to drown any audio cues.
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>>567289278
you're supposed to be the melee frontman, ASSHOLE! the veteran is supposed to shoot enemies!
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>>567287256
I really wonder what's going to happen to them. Unlike Payday 3, I don't think KF3 can be saved.
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>>567289278
This is why you #InspectAndDecline
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>>567289816
I hope the studio dissolves and everyone involved in the games direction fails to find footing in the industry again. What they've been doing is the exact thing that's killing video games and franchises
>make extremely beloved cult classic for a niche audience
>this audience wants nothing more than for you to succeed and improve upon the existing formula
>instead you decide to make it some retarded cyberpunk neon shit nobody wanted
>and you make the gameplay systems some gay heroshooter shit nobody wanted
>and you tune EVERYTHING for mass appeal so it can be the next fortnite
>AND you put extremely jewish fomo based monetization on top of it

there is nothing more deserved than everyone involved in these decisions going out of business permanently
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Every time i see an Ogryn with a rippergun i tell the guys that i want to marry my sister and become a day drinker too.
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you can't even unlock the last grid point on the new expedition layout. Fatshark didn't even test this shit at all and nobody notices because nobody but me plays this shit
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>>567290801
It's amazing that it released last year and I haven't heard a fucking thing about it.
It looked like shit, I stopped caring and I never saw anyone talk about it again.
I didn't even know it had a release date until I checked the store page right now.
It's just a void, what a colossal fuckup.
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>>567289278
Now you understand why they play at that level
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>>567290845
maybe you just suck at the game and that's why you suck n fuck your sister instead
the ripper gun is very good
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chink reviews are pretty funny
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>rippertard is back
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>>567291759
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The hyperautistic obsession that one brown ESL anon has on ripperguns is getting extremely strange.
Remember a couple days ago when he was caught making videos in an uprising psykhanium to lie about how the kickback has more range?
He also said you shouldn't pick Hard Knocks and Soften Them Up because they supposedly are only stacking additively with skullcrusher when you can look it up and the scaling is multiplicative. He used this argumentation to shill his kickback build that doesn't use them so he can hit a breakpoint with the kickback instead.

How does someone who is constantly proven wrong keep coming back with the same autistic hyperfixitation?
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for anons who play far far west, is the long ranger good as damage dealer? the only builds i've seen are people just using it as a cooldown stick for spells.
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>>567290801
These decisions are basically being made by out of touch people with business degrees and no interest in the market they're supposed to cater to, all off a belief that all businesses are fundamentally the same, so think their skills are transferable and they require no specialised understanding of a particular businesses niche. We call it managerialism and it's everywhere in the corporate world these days. The only reason the industry hadn't imploded before now was because of the ludicrous amounts of funding Blackrock and similar investment firms had been pouring into it for 15 years, offsetting their losses and fooling executives into treating it as legitimate growth.
>everyone involved in these decisions going out of business permanently
They're going to, but the retards making the decisions tend to fail sideways in a game of corporate musical chairs. You should check out some industry names on linkedin, they literally spin their involvement in massive, catastrophic failures as positives, and it gets them rehired every time. Often into better paying positions than the ones they fucked up in, it's fucking insane.
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>>567292428
you didn't prove shit bitch
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The ripper gun's recoil is indeed annoying, but you can clear pretty much the entire screen with just a single activation of PBB with this build. Crushers might take a bit, but since they're full of both bleed&burn stacks now they'll keel over in a moment too.
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>>567292771
Declined.
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>>567235727
So what? Most people wouldn't be able to handle it and Darktitde would be dead as a game now, played only by you and a handful of other annoying sweatlords who think that being "accomplished" at playing a fucking videogame is somehow an achievement worth bragging about or some shit.
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>>567286893
>scoreboard is completely modular, allowing the user to pick and choose every stat he wants tracked
>this is too complex for anon so he throws the entire thing in the trash
In reality there's only one stat that matters so who needs the score aggregates anyway.
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>>567292428
>everyone is the same person
It's funny how schizophrenic you fuckers are
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>>567292546
The strangest part is that you're bringing this shit up out of nowhere too. Like here >>567290845
Nobody was even talking about rippers but your autism just flared up and you had to randomly bring it up so that when people inevitably respond to you in good faith and give you rippergun builds because they assume you're not just some permanently asshurt troglodyte, you can sperg out about how the "rippertard" is stalking you
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>>567292926
I'm a chef who carries his team to perfection. You wouldn't be a tasty ingredient at all.
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>>567293167
Post your title selection screen then
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>>567291751
>very good
>not just good
>very
>good
Lmfao
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For real though this rippertard is an actual fucking retard
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>>567291751
It's bad.
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For real though this rippertard needs to be held down and raped and killed by palestinian terrorists
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>>567291751
It has way too low damage for all the drawbacks it comes with
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>>567294832
Drawbacks such as being the coolest gun in the entire game?
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>>567294958
Drawbacks such as
>awful accuracy and spread
>bad ammo economy
>cant kill armored targets without brittleness cheese
>clunky and slow as hell to even pull out and aim
To name a few
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>>567295119
>drawbacks such as: skill issues
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>>567295209
using undertuned weapons doesn't make you good at the game, it just means the rest of the team has to carry your shitty ass through the level while you're screeching about skill issues
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cooked his ass
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>>567295294
put up or shut up, asshole
you've not ever played with the likes of me
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>>567295430
How long have you been doing this?
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>>567292428
Why would the ESL rippergun tard use the kickback?
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>>567293167
>food analogy
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>>567293074
Not even related to that guy.
Stay obsessed rippertard.
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>>567295119
>>cant kill armored targets without brittleness cheese
Even with can opener you can't really kill armored enemies.
It's just not good at that.
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>>567295294
Trvke
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>>567295479
>you've not ever played with the likes of me
Yeah, we haven't. We just auto decline retards like you.
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>>567296664
>un petit kebab
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The simplest solution to the problem is to take this build into an H40, record how it performs and post the video. If it's actually good like the ripperguy claims, there would be undeniable proof, but he won't do that despite the fact he's more than willing to record his screen in the psykhanium.
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It's like these bitches don't know that with a rippergun that has 66% ammo has 19 ammo in the magazine and thus procs blaze away and inspiring barrage with every shot, making it the best way to run rippergun as a sidearm to a primarily melee build. Can opener is a meme only used by those who do not Know.
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>>567297092
You don't have any special knowledge that we don't have. You're just retarded
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>oh my science, is that, a weapon that was called "meta" by my favorite youtube streamer!?
>ooh I simply must insert it into my anus while I insult anyone not using it!
>this means I'm an eliter gamer who doesn't take any guff!
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>enter mission
>first thing that happens is that a barrel knocks me into a corner where i get completely stuck
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>>567297092
The best build the rippergun has is a Can opener meme gimmickbuild that spends more time melee'ing shit than shooting the actual gun.

You aren't convincing anyone.
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>load up darktide
>get queued up with a tide of darks
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>>567296952
You just raped him
>>567297257
Keep going. The more brown and retarded you sound the easier it is to discredit rippertrannies
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FS highkey needs to put a description above Hivescum that tells people that the class is a melee/assassin type character and not a fucking frontliner.

I'm so fucking sick of people switching to vet/psyker because they think i'm gonna draw aggro when i get stuck in.
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>>567297773
Pubshitters who remotely do fucking ANYTHING correctly are practically nonexistent outside of maelstrom and don't become common before havoc 31-40 depending on how late it is into a reset (31 stuckies late into a reset are just as bad).

It's not unique to scum. You just notice it more on scum because the class is extremely unforgiving and shitters can't play. Doesn't make them much better than the 3-veterans-but-nobody-has-field-improv teams you can frequently get even in auric.
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>>567297092
The 66% ammo is a fucking meme. Practically no one does it because there's no point. Even less so since they buffed Steady Grip to give you toughness while firing your gun.
Every melee ogryn who uses a ripper just dumps collateral (or if they are smart they dump stability, knowers know) and then just put on flak + maniac and then put on fire frenzy and blaze away.
It's better over all and more damage and makes the gun more consistent at killing specials at mid range.
And no can opener isn't that good. Since rumbler gets shattering impact which also allows you to apply 40% brittleness to everything and does it better and from range.


Ripper guns are genuinely bad and not worth taking. And they most likely will never get any sort of buffs either because rippers are OP as fuck on shit like malice.
Aka the actual difficulty ogryn is balanced around at, while every other class is balanced around havoc.
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We should get a reclamator tech priest class instead of a skittari. We get access to more mechanicus weapons and tech, actually get some mechendrites, and a reclamator working alongside the rejects makes perfect sense
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>>567298168
Rippertranny Status: Declined and destroyed
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Would you guys want the second enemy faction to be the cult of a different chaos god, or Genestealers?
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>>567298586
Shut the fuck up
>>567298904
Genestealers
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>>567298168
The steady grip buff only made that setup better, not irrelevant, and fire frenzy does jack shit since half the time you pull it out you're only using it to kill (or stagger) one or two specials or shooters, and then going back to meleeing shit because you're a frontliner.
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>>567297001
It's not a solution at all. It's been done repeatedly, the guy always just spergs and goes
>you got carried
>numbers mean nothing
>the same guy could've had way more numbers with actually GOOD weapons!
It's just pointless engaging with shitskins
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>>567298586
>we get access to more [content]
These people are swedish thoughbeit, they won't do it simply to avoid the possibility of having to make more content.
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>>567300929
At least he can be shut down faster by asking for video proof instead of having an hour's back and forth on theory. Either way, it harms his izzat and he'll declare you an enemy for life.
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>>567301284
Ok. Let's see what you have to say now you annoying shitskin
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYlB7B46THQ
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The rippertranny is having a fullblown honest to god meltdown right now and i'm all here for it
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>>567301685
yeah it's kinda strange that people can pretend ripperguns aren't good when they see videos like this >>567301362
troonopots puts it best, pic related
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>>567301362
This isn't even the ripperfag's build, and most of the match so far is being spent in melee, this doesn't prove at all whether or not the ripper is good at shooting.
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>>567301362
>not the PBB ripper build they posted earlier
>not even the 66% ammo ripper build
sis not like this...
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>>567301953
>>567301945
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xb7j3LnzuKo

I can do this all day you goalpost moving faggot. PBB this time. I don't care what build the other anon posted btw multiple ripper builds are viable for different builds.

But let me guess
>izzat woudned
>have to make up reasons as to why IT DOESN'T COUNT!!!
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anti-rippergun troon getting bodied rn
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>>567302137
>literally shitting on the purge staff psyker on offensive stats
huh
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>my favorite youtuber says it's good!
>well, not "good" but he used it at least once!
Rippertranny status: Raped and gaped
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>>567302137
Less than five minutes into the level and already fucking off from the group to scrounge for every last ammo pickup to feed an ammo hungry weapon that kills maybe a handful of enemies per magazine. Will continue watching to see if this picks up pace at all.
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>>567302631
>ammo intensive build needs to scrounge for ammo on h40
wow say it aint so

is this really your retort?
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I enjoy the kickback with power maul. No I don't play havoc and I don't plan to.
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>>567302137
>needlessly overuses his gun all of the time
>picks up all the ammo
>somehow barely does more damage than a chastity stance arbishitter
Jewtube videos are irrelevant because you never know what the sample size is and how many fucked up runs didn't make the cut. The lineup is retarded garbage, so I have to assume they ate shit dozens of times before this god run happened. Also the clickbait title is absurdly retarded and 2m damage isn't impressive overall.
>>567302531
Bubble cucks are bad players, it's unsurprising.
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wait is the rippertard actually serious?
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>>567302631
All builds that actually consume ammo need to do this on H40. Plasma vets, revolver vets, the rare autogun build all have to hunt for ammo pickups on H40. I know a lot of people are spoiled by lasgun vets not ever needing any, but it is totally fine to have 1 guy who takes most of the ammo, so long as you really just have one guy like that. Most comps have 0 guys like that.
As for it picking up pace, he's keeping up and in the end even defeats the flame staff Psyker and competently kills specials which justifies the ammo consumption. I'd say it's fine, I don't even play Ogryn but I'll start considering PBB ones in my join requests.
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How do SM2 bros not get sick of Decapitation and Inferno over and over
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>>567302628
>everyone who disagrees with me is brown and/or trans
it's embarrassing how incapable of human connection you are
>>567302137
Watching this to see if i can be convinced, but so far i think im gonna take this with a grain of salt since the power maul explosion counts as ranged damage, and you get two of them when swinging into moebian hordes which kills 20+ instantly. I get the feeling that it would not preform as well outside of moebians. Even if it's not *that* good though it's performing better than i'd expected. Good enough to bring to my off meta premade if we built the comp to allow me to vaccuum up ammo. I've played worse.
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>>567303103
there's other missions
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>>567303131
To be fair you just can't play a ranged only ogryn, it doesn't have enough ammo on a h40 map for him. If he needs to melee anyway, minmaxing with the boomstick is about expected and the standard I would hold any ranged ogryn build to because it synergizes so well
It is pretty fucking strong overall team damage wise too. Like blasting a whole horde with full skullcrusher stacks doesn't only inflate the ogryns damage
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>>567303131
>everyone who disagrees with me is brown and/or trans
No? Just you
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>>567298904
A second chaos cult probably would be the easiest thing for them to implement actually thinking about it. I still want Genestealers more and hope they do them instead.
>>567289816
Payday 3 can be saved? Seems a little too late for that.
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>>567303663
>Payday 3 can be saved? Seems a little too late for that.
It's in a way better state now, but the changes are definitely taking their time. The map improvements in No Rest For The Wicked are a great step in the right direction at least. Hopefully they continue this trend with all the other maps.
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>>567303269
Oh yeah definitely agree, judging the build as a whole, just saying to remember the thing about the explosion being ranged damage, or you might get your opinion of the ripper gun overinflated. You'd probably objectively be better off with the twink stubber for this build, but just because another option is better doesn't mean there aren't positive tradeoffs in the worse gun's favor or that it isn't usable/viable.
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>>567303056
My takeaway so far is that nearly any other ogryn ranged option is less ammo intensive and comes away with less downtime scrounging for ammo. All I'm seeing proven so far is that the build works, but it working doesn't mean it's good when other builds exceed this one in damage with lower ammunition overhead. Winning in damage is easily explained by the fact that the arby and hive scum can't even use their ranged options for lack of ammo, and the flame psyker is strictly short ranged, so the ripper has no competition for ranged targets.

On top of this, the bulk of his targets so far have been poxwalkers and groaners, being good at killing these with any gun is hardly an endorsement.
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>>567298586
>We get access
You get two new weapons and a bunch of curios get reskinned as "implants" if you're lucky. Ark rifle should be fun. Idk, about a second one, an axe probably? Rad-carbine would go hard as the anti-armor option.
And that's if it's actually admech and not another crackhead.
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>>567304246
>All I'm seeing proven so far is that the build works,
And yet this is an unbelievably huge deal to shitters who think h40 is insurmountable. This is proof enough for a retard who struggles to even get ASS. Unironically.

The only impressive part about that video is that all 4 players were running pretty dogshit builds (crate spam scum lol, chastity stance tardbitrator, bubblecuck struggling to keep up damage wise) and still won, but then again, >>567302824 it's probably cherry picked from 20 failed runs until the director RNG was good.
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>>567304540
This run does seem lower intensity than I'm used to, or maybe I've just been playing with guys who can't pass DPS checks.
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>>567238075
How bad is it going to be?
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>>567277708
What, in your mind, does matter exactly?
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>>567283307
Sex with this girl
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That settles it
Rippertards have completely lost the argument
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>>567303935
They released 3 heists in the last year, the game is fucking dead because there is nothing to do but they spend all their time dicking around with skills instead of making actual new content. They need to work on new maps if they want people to play.
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Ripper sisters?
*puts away the ripper*
*pulls out buttplug*
*cleans hard drive*
We lost this one
I'm ridin' with the rumbler now
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>>567268070
kek
>>567270830
sad but true at this point we’ll be lucky if any new content isn’t just a reskin of stuff we have in the game already
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they're arguing over off-meta weapon selections for an off-meta class...
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>>567261350
Current Magnus is probably the most powerful one. It’s silly the kind of stuff this guy can do. Before him it was chaos amped Horus. Then before that it was pretty clearly Sanguinius.
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>>567307792
We're arguing with a guy who swears it's some secret underrated meta.
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>>567308287
really? what a massive fucking retard
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>>567308287
When did they say that?
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>>567308287
it's on ogryn so obviously that isn't true :)
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>>567308509
>they
Lol. You trannies are as easy to spot on the internet as you are irl
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>>567308509
He didn't, but the second video has this description
>With the changes to Point-Blank Barrage, in "Beyond The Hive" Update, Ogryn has become the TOP DAMAGE class in Havoc-40.
>In this video I actually manage to out-damage a Hive Scum, an Inferno Psyker and a Castigator Arb (which is another insane dps build btw)
Only someone who wholeheartedly agrees with that statement would argue with the zeal he has and for as long as he has in favor of the ripper gun when we all know there are better options that outperform it just in the ogryn's own arsenal, to say nothing of every other class.
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fuck, did i miss out on a ripper debate?
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Ripper sisters...
*puts away the ripper*
*takes a shower*
*unlocks chastity cage*
I'm stumping for the stubber now
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telling the joke a second time when no one laughed the first time always works
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I'm glad so many people mistakenly think ripper guns are bad, because it increases the chance of fatshark giving them a buff.
As the bald man once said; when is a gift not a gift?
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>>567310198
Ogryns don't get buffs, silly, they get nerfs
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>>567310198
>ogryn
>buffs
haha
HAHAHAHAHAAAAA
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>>567309782
Obviously the guy who everyone is laughing at doesn't think it's funny
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>>567310280
>>567310401
Ogryn has been buffed pretty heavily in the last patch, you literally get 50% dr or so for missing a dodge which is significant
I know it only serves to put him closer to the human classes but a buff is a buff
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>>567310769
Until they realise it's too strong for Malice and cut the bonus in half or more
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>>567310280
>>567310401
I've played this game long enough to remember big ogryn buffs. It has happened before and it will happen again.
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>>567310198
I really don't like how rippers play..
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>>567311101
No one does. They're just pretending
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>>567308549
Ogryn is off meta.
He is at best B tier class, while rest of them are easy S tier.
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>>567311101
It is an extremely counterintuitive weapon. When unbraced it's more like a revolver where you snipe things by clipping them with the damage cone and work with the minimum pellet count. When braced you kind of lose accuracy (which makes no sense cause you're bracing it) but then it kinda gets to magdump faster which turns it into some sort of flamethrower because it mostly does damage via the PBB burn, you kinda try to maximize enemy surface area to spread the most burn stacks. It's weird and not shotgun like it's more like you have to carpet bomb
It never at any point really actually feels like a shotgun because the way it cleaves feels bad. I really just use it as the ogryn version of a revolver when I play melee ogryn, for this purpose it's good, but as I said counterintuitive. It works ok on PBB too but stubber is just better. It's still just fine though
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>>567310198
>when is a gift not a gift?
I don't know how you've twisted this in your mind to apply here, but I think you fundamentally misunderstood the line.

>>567311402
>zealot
>meta
hahaha
hehehehe
hohohohoho
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>>567303103
people have been complaining that chaos missions are bad since game's release, but frankly I miss how they played before frisbee goats and chaos spawns.
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>>567311538
>but I think you fundamentally misunderstood the line.
Within the context of the movie it's pretty simple. Something that looks bad on the surface turns out to be a good thing in the long run. You disagree?
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>>567311801
He's saying the emperor "gifted" Arakis to the duke, but in reality in puts him in a perilous position where he is away from his home and saddled with an impossible task, made worse by sabotage. He is then subsequently murdered by a raid by both harkonnen and imperial forces.

When is a gift not a gift? When it's poison.
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>>567308890
>a Castigator Arb (which is another insane dps build btw)
In what world is this even true?
The actual insane Dee Pee Ess build for is or BTL + Forceful or Nuncio + Forceful, while using the OG shockmaul with skullcrusher.
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>>567312252
Ah, that works too.
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>>567312331
In a world where the ogryn is the TOP DAMAGE class in Havoc-40 of course, didn't you read?
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>>567312428
No, that's the only way it works.
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>>567310198
Rippers are bad mostly, massive ammo hogs for very little effect.
All I want for rippers myself is giving them tighter spread so they have more range, and then buffing their Unyielding ADM to be like 1.4
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>>567312536
No it literally works both ways.
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Whoever said that arbites is better tank than ogryn, you were correct. Barely directing the dog unless I want to chock something and its getting all of these penances for pouncing different specialists and elites on its own.
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>>567312790
it do be like that
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Skitarii soon
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I can't believe Fatshark has gone this long letting people believe it will be Skitarii
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Reminder of things we will get before Skitarii:
>Eldar
>Votann
>Space Marine Scout
>Ordo Assassin
>Sister of Battle
>Snotling
>Genestealer
>An actual Necron
>Tzeentch Cultist
>An Old One
>Knight Pilot
>An actual literal Imperial Titan
>A Blank
>Commander Farsight
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>>567313951
It'll be so fucking funny if it's not. I hope it's some nobody class related to the expedition mode and it only has mechanicus weapons because they scavenge tech remnants.
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>>567314113
>Has already been data-mined
>Nooo we won't get it
Eh, few more days of this.
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Woe, curse of Apollo be upon ye.
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>>567311801
I wondered how the fuck you could get it wrong, but then I realized
>Within the context of the movie it's pretty simple.
you had no idea what you were watching because you didn't read the book. I'm quite sure there was a scene where someone literally told Paul >>567312252 while they were en route to Arrakis.
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>>567314113
>>An actual literal Imperial Titan
Give me your crackhead ideas to fit it into the game, it sounds based as hell.
My one is you play it as a distant artillery platform in the expedition mode with tripled wave count. Kind of like a permanent seat in AC-130 in battlefield. Give it friendly fire too, fuck it.
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>>567314840
It's minified to ogryn size and the controls are literally ripped directly from mechwarrior, no dodges, no sliding, you turn slow as shit, but nothing directly in front of you survives for long, including and especially your own teammates. It doesn't get to sit in the storm raptor, the model just t poses and clips through everything. Every voice line comes out at 140 decibels and there's no way to adjust it without effectively muting everything else. The mark sound is just a war horn loud enough that you'll damage the hearing of everyone in the match every time you hit the button.
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>>567314840
Warhounds at the very least could easily be controllable "SEMs", they're not even twice as large as a knight, warlords being twice that of a warhound.
This is a game where the unit sizes aren't 5-10 man squads, they're hundreds of models, titans are well within the scope of possible units.
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I join russian servers, pull patrols and retreat while the r*ssians fight. If they lose, I write "glory to ukraine" and suicide.
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>>567273658
cope
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>>567315769
I am schizophrenic and shifted my tabs around somehow.
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>>567315626
>Every voice line comes out at 140 decibels and there's no way to adjust it
>he mark sound is just a war horn loud enough that you'll damage the hearing of everyone in the match every time you hit the button
perfect
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EbOjPLyIg44
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>>567312331
>OG shockmaul with skullcrusher
I thought the arbitrator shockmaul was stronger?
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>>567314840
There's a level taking place on top of an Imperial Titan and you act as an anti-boarding party, the "playing as a Titan" part is just you doing shitty minigames to fix issues and maybe fire it's guns.
Even that would be infinitely more based than your average Darktide mission and thus impossible for the Sw*doid to implement. One thing I'll give SM2 over Darktide is that the R*ssoids there at least know how to sell the spectactle of 40k even within buildings and enclosed spaces. Like sure, there's still tons of generic metal corridors but you get specific setpieces that look cool as fuck from time to time so they really stand out.
Like, I get it, we're shitty penal faggots sent into the places nobody else wants to go but even there you sometimes get interesting ideas like the spacehip that's hanging from chains on the original train map but it's far as fuck away. That whole area is actually one of stand-out ones with wide open spaces and giant ass statues and everything but the map design does everything in it's power to not make your eyes linger on the background for too long - you enter from a covered position where none of this is visible, all objectives and enemy spawns are placed in such a way you never look at the cool stuff, etc.
It does sort of get better with the train and the tank escort mission but even there it really just feels like low quality poop smeared JPGs off in the distance.
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>>567315769
>>567315953
Did you mean to post it in Total War Warhammeroids thread
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>>567316713
That's where I thought I was.
>>567314840
Anyway a titan in darktide could maybe be a set piece in a mission but I don't see the conflict actually being important enough for titan deployment unless a chaos warband just shows up and brings their own.
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Do the Necrons have their own equivalents to Titans? What is it?
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>>567316219
>There's a level taking place on top of an Imperial Titan
Not a very big level then, but sure, I see the vision. You can do multiple layers I guess. Have all the techpriests who are jacked into the systems be in the corridors below and an open air arena above.
Then again, if titans of that size are getting deployed, it's all fucked.

Speaking of cool levels, I want to go to a spire. Say some noble fell into chaos, got his entire estate contaminated as fuck. The views gotta ge good.
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How do I deal with:
A) A bunch of bulwarks closely packed together while I'm out of grenades
B) A poxburter who has dived before getting into pushing tange
One is annoying and the other is game ending.
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>>567317312
The fuckass trapezoid
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ammo box hoggers must be lynched
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>>567317312
It's more pyramids and random fucking flying buildings.
I'm not sure the Necron Abbatoir ever got it's own official model though.
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>>567317312
They don't really have anything that rivals titans in strength or scale.
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>>567317326
>Speaking of cool levels, I want to go to a spire. Say some noble fell into chaos, got his entire estate contaminated as fuck. The views gotta ge good.
I've been saying since the beta that we desperately need a mission in a place that actually has windows to the outside. Again, I get the idea with oppressive metal corridors and shit everywhere but if you never break it up and show the true scale of Tertium it really doesn't hit as hard.
Tertium specifically has an orbital spire where low flying ships can dock - I always wanted a mission there, fighting on the ship and on the dock in the spire. Must look really fucking cool. Citadel from HL2 but even bigger.
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>>567317374
>A bunch of bulwarks closely packed together while I'm out of grenades
You don't let that become a bad situation and run away or try to flank. Don't even run out of grenades like that in the first place.
>A poxburter who has dived before getting into pushing tange
Don't be there. Get there before your retards can aggro it like that. Shoot it before this can happen. Use your ability to get away or generate gold toughness. Use your ability to push it away.
>game ending
Health curio, corruption resistance, and you no longer get instagibbed by bursters even in h40.
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>>567317312
They have metal bugs of increasing size, including ship sized ones
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>>567314840
>pic
wait a minute that's just battletech
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>>567314840
>>567314840
>Give me your crackhead ideas to fit it into the game
Knight Commander Dragor brings one into the battelfield.
He's already brought is a Leman Russ, has he not?
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>>567314840
>Give me your crackhead ideas to fit it into the game, it sounds based as hell.
Drivable Macharius tank that has broken down in outside of the hive, and you and your team are sent into do quick field repairs, and then need to escort it to a location where it can more permanently be repaired.

During the mission however, you can use the tank's weapon systems to kill enemies.
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>>567317960
I don't know what budget cuts did Darktide go through for it's missions to be so lame compared to Vermintide or Warhammer standards in general.
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I love the Vraks Autogun so goddamn much, no other weapon feels quite as good.
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Psykers are fucking disgusting. I just watched one spam an aoe flamethrower that wiped out every wave whilst staggering elites at the same time.
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>Psykers are fucking disgusting. I just watched one spam an aoe flamethrower that wiped out every wave whilst staggering elites at the same time.
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>>567320371
The budget cuts happened when Tencent acquired Fatshark, and then had Darktide pushed out 4 years too early.
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>>567320371
>Vermintide mentioned
Into the trash you go.
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>>567313951
Exactly, its not skitari or anything mechanicus related. Its just a human with a servo skull pet.
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>>567321145
>poxie coughs behind you
>toughness and 1/3 of your health gone
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>>567322491
skill issue
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>>567321278
What's wrong with Vermintide's ambient design?
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>Disingenuous vermintranny trying to shit up the thread
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>>567321201
It's unfortunate hwo so much shit gets blamed but this often goes unmentioned. This game came out years before it should have, just to please chink suits
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>>567325312
>It's unfortunate hwo so much shit gets blamed but this often goes unmentioned.
Maybe because its not real and you made it up in your head?
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I can't imagine believing darktide's launch was anyone's fault but fatshark. The cash shop was ready to go immediately, they were telling us their plans for quarterly classes, and only AFTER they got the negative reception did they stop and put out a public apology and change course. If they knew it was going out too soon, they wouldn't have acted like all was well and they were surprised by just how shit everyone thought it was.
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>switch to mk8 exterminator shotgun
>ADS is a sniper rifle
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>>567324495
Always the same story around here
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Now that the dust has settled, why was vermintide such a flop that fatshark abandoned the setting?
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I ain't gonna go all robotic but i am disgusted by the weakness of my flesh
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>>567325946
Yeah I'm sure the devs wanted to release the game with "coming soon" placeholders you retarded spastic
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>>567232089
Should add the nioh trilogy to the list.
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>>567332510
>"bro, china made them do it! Trust me bro! Proof? No, no, no, you gotta trust me bro."
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>>567332737
Oh shit. Is that from the third game? Is it a playable character?
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>>567325946
>Maybe because its not real
Tencent buying out Fatshark is 100% real. It is also 100% on Tencent that they pushed the game out way too soon.
It is not at all a coincidence that the ONLY functional thing at launch was the fucking premium shop. Especially when it is Tencent, a company that is notorious for its cancerous and aggressive pushing of MTX slop in games to monitize them.
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>>567335382
Blaming tencent for all the woes with fatshak is something you made up in your head.
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>>567332817
200¥ have been deposited to your CCP mandated account
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>>567335382
why are you bending over backwards to pretend like a minority stakeholder somehow ruined a game's release, instead of the studio and publisher responsible for it
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>>567335561
:3
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>>567335481

>>567335596
>minority stake holder
Tencent bought a majority share in Fatshark in January 2021. It is not a "minor stakeholder".
https://www.di.se/digital/kinesiska-tencent-tar-kontroll-over-svensk-spelsucce-i-miljardaffar/

You being this insistent on shilling for the fucking bugmen, already tells me you're chinese cuck.
Btw, Taiwan is a real country.

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I'm getting bored of arbitrator and need something to mix it up. What's the most fun class out of the remainder or should I just wait for the dlc next month?
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>>567336065
Tell me you know nothing about tencent without telling me.
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>>567335596
>stakeholder
*shareholder
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>>567336184
Vraks auto gun veteran.
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>>567336065
>kinesiska-tencent-tar-kontroll-over-svensk-spelsucce-i-miljardaffar
What a silly language
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>>567336065
darktide released nov 2022, they waited a year and a half to tell them they had to release the game they had already been developing for years?
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>>567336065
Tencent has been notably pretty hands off with every company they bought. You may not like it but Darktide's fuckup is squarely the fault of "white" Sw*des at Fatshark, not some bugmen conspiracy enshittifying games behind the scenes.
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>>567336065
You do know that Fatshark has a long history of incompetent management decisions that predate the Tencent buyout right?
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>"Varlet. Your semen count is dangerously high. Report to my quarters for a servo-job"
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>>567340313
I haven't been drinking any semen, i swear!
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I wish more classes got access to the thunder hammer.
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>>567340313
varletsissies wish
skitchads are getting the special hadron treatment
or at least they better, if fatshark knows what's good for them
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5 days until Skittles reveal
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Skitussy...
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Skitzo
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>>567341020
>>567341059
>the fatshark employee skimming the thread for things to add to the name filter list
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>>567341020
$15 tenga connected to her brain by a wire at best.
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>>567341257
SKIGGERS
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I got your skitarii reveal right here
*unzips mechadendrite*
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>>567341346
you can't unzip that because skit won't have one, too hard for fatshark to animated, small indie studio please understand
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>>567341346
Why would a normal human tech scavanger have a mechadendrite?
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>>567341257
There’s evidence this is the case btw
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>>567341428
Man the Techmarine in SM2 was such a letdown. A total of one (1) mechadendrite that's just a jiggle bone like it's fucking TF2, a arm that has like one animation when it touches the Tarantula on it's head and a fucking shoulder gun nailed to a power pack exhaust out of all places (which, admitelly, is just how Primaris Techmarines do it because Games Workshop lost any edge it might have ever had and everything they make now looks like utter dogshit).
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Im keeping my Skitarii name to myself, I dont want fatshark preemptively filtering it
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>>567341759
>a arm that has like one animation when it touches the Tarantula
and multiple unique executes when using the power axe or omnisian axe...
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>>567341656
Evidence's a bit of a strong word, isn't it?
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>>567342167
I wouldn't know I don't play rollslop I just say what I saw from what the devs showed
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>>567341870
then you better hope it's creative enough to not get mentioned on any other platform
I don't imagine Skitussy or any of its variations have a chance in hell
is it the case that SesbianLex and LexOffender both got filtered? if so, they're definitely on the prowl
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>>567342419
I know, all you want to do is complain about other co-op games in your echo chamber, not actually play other co-op games.
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>>567342452
SesbianLex is like the most spammed pun name for an Arbitrator. I've seen dozens of people using it and thinking they're unique and funny.
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>>567340313
More like HARDon heyooooo am I right fellas
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>>567343672
haha, that certainly is something I am familiar with, fellow penis haver
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>>567340313
Why are techpriests so lewd
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>>567340506
kek
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>>567336065
Imagine can't accept that devs are probably at fault at managing their game way more than the publisher or shareholders. Look at Bungie, Blizzard and Respawn. Hurr durr Activision bad, EA bad.
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>>567336887
can you not read dates nigger? 2021 is when tencent acquired majority stakes
to pretend that the party owning the majority of fatshark doesn't get to say when the game needs to release is to admit you dont know shit about it so you need to stfu
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>>567345129
>Hurr durr Activision bad, EA bad.
I'm loling at the idea that you thought this would be a convincing argument
yes EA and activision are actually the worst most kiked up companies on earth and blizzard went downhill the moment they were acquired for example

fucking corpo cocksucker, it's actually insane that you think it's worth bending over backwards to defend fucking activision of all things online. You are genuinely the dumbest fucking niggercattle goy I have ever seen
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Tencent just manages the monetization model
That's why the slopshop was the only thing that worked correctly at launch
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>>567345183
in your mind the game is bad because fatshark needed 4 more years to work on it, but they've had four years now and it's still shit, sooooo
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>>567345315
Do you really think it's just all about microtransaction? None of gameplay and new contents affect the game or something. It's like you've never seen people complaining about balance, slow updates and also shitty events in those games beside Fatshark.
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>>567346817
>let's pretend that business direction doesn't affect gameplay or content schedule
I repeat: You are the dumbest fucking niggercattle goy I've ever seen
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>>567347302
this niggas dying on a hill to convince everyone china did all this.
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Chyna
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>>567347493
The only one dying on a hill is you, and it's to defend ACTIVISION lmao
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Guys fatshark are swedish they dont need the chinese to be retarded
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>>567347992
This nigga so delirious he forgot what war he as fighting.
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>>567261350
It’s Alpharius for the simple reason that no one is actually able to mount any kind of attack against the guy and he’s the leader of the galaxy brained legion
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>>567348090
You're the delirious one. You think activision had nothing to do with blizzards games eating shit and becoming slop
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>>567347302
>Cosmetics are gameplay contents
Very smart.
Both mortis trial and expedition are totally good business decision.
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>>567348828
This nigga shooting at the germans thinking theyre the italians
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>>567349320
>no bro they totally didn't start employing dark patterns and psychology-addiction-maxxing their game instead of producing content because of activision influence, activision is way better than that
lol
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>>567349118
And let's see you explain away all the gacha retentioin shit that was in the game at launch with the weapon system
Just Fatshark randomly deciding to do it after getting bought out by gacha chinks? LOL

you faggots defend the actual corporate scourge destroying video games because you're so fucking blind you actually believe the
>um actually tencent is really nice and doesn't mess with devs at all :)
dogshit. I'm sure that they won't care about release schedules or business strategies or anything! Don't google "level infinite", what they do, and especially don't look at which one of those chinks were on the Darktide board of directors! It's just a conspiracy theory bro!
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Can't it be both swedish malice and chinese greed?
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>>567349727
This dude is shooting the japanese thinking they're germans
You've completely lost the plot.
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>>567350113
yes but there is a brand of chink greed

if
1. tencent buys Fatshark
2. Gram Xu joins the board of directors, who is from level infinite which is the branch of tencent responsible for player retention, psychologically engineered live service systems that keep players engaged, and mobile gacha systems
3. their next game suddenly has rotating shops on timers and what is essentially a gacha system for buying weapons to the point people make store alert mods
4. the game comes out utterly unfinished with the only 2 finished aspects being the rotating stores, both cosmetic and weapon stores

And you assume it wasn't obviously tencent influence effecting this exact type of failure you are simply a retarded bughuman, actual goycattle. You can look at the flavor of Fatshark fuckups in VT2, and it's not that brand of shit.
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>>567350628
Source: Trust me bro
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>>567261350
It depends on who the writers need to be most powerful but it honestly also depends on what do you mean by most powerful.
Straight fight? Horus on Chaos God crack cocaine and it's not even close, it's even reflected in the rules where he's always been like double the point's value of any other Primarch, at one point being worth a standard size army by himself (a not neccesarily smart move on tabletop since you could just drown him in bodies and do the objectives, arguably how he got fucked up in Canon too).
Straight fight outside of Horus on Chaos God crack cocaine? Sanguinius, then Angron, Lion and Russ, Fulgrim, Vulkan, Horus, Corax and Curze, Khan, Dorn and Perturabo, Mortarion, Ferrus Manus, Guilliman, Lorgar and Alpharius/Omegon.
Magnus is a bit of a wild card because of his Psyker powers but then again he did job to Leman Russ and it isn't really a given that other Primarchs would be really that susceptible. If he can just sperg out magically he's winning with anyone but Ascended Horus, if it's not that easy he's probably somewhere along the lower-middle of the pack. It's also worth noting that if we're allowing magic shenanigans to influence the fight, Lorgar, who is traditionally considered one of weakest Primarchs, actually might do better since he's the only other guy apart from Magnus who actually starts doing proper Psyker shit before he's Daemonified.
Speaking of which, modern 40k all the surviving traitor Primarchs get a bump in theoretical competence due to becoming Daemon Primarchs (so even with magic Magnus would no longer have a sure win against coked-up Angron and he canonically jobs to Guilliman, so...). On Loyalist side Lion got an immense bump in competency, Guilliman is sort of the same and Corax is doing his best Death Bird impression, so the ladder probably goes something like this:
Lion, ?Corax?, Angron, Fulgrim, Mortarion, Magnus, Perturabo, Lorgar, ?Russ?, ?Vulkan?, ?Khan?, ?Dorn?, Guilliman, ???Omegon (or was it Alpharius)???
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>>567350628
you thinking there's a scenario where fatshark doesn't completely botch the release of darktide just shows you didn't play vermintide 1 or 2
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>>567352929
Launch Vermintide 2 was a good game that clearly needed another half year in the oven to iron out bugs.
Launch Darktide was a hollow shell of a game that likely restarted development several times, shedding features in the process, took 2 years of post launch updates to feel worthy of calling a passable Vertmintide 2 successor, and clearly needed another half year in the oven to iron out bugs. I'm not trying to say it was the evil chinaman's fault, I just don't like the VT2 slander.
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>>567352268
Try the darktide credits
>no bro actually this company just paid for majority stake in Fatshark then put one of their GaaS people on the board of directors and had a full team of level infinite people (a GaaS branch of tencent) work on Darktide but actually? They had NOTHING to do with it! Stop claiming Chinks had any part in Darktides failures!!! It's just the swedes thats why VT2 had all of that before tencent bought them too I mean... what do you mean it didn't? GULP!!!
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>>567353602
>Bro, heres my smoking gun about how its all chinas fault!
>Just a list of people with no proof
Holy schizo
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>>567352929
VT2 had
>lots of content
>no chink cosmetics
>was absolutely buggy and broken to the point of being unplayable
>retard systems
>updates working towards fixing it

VT1 had
>no content
>shit balance
>retard systems
>mostly stable
>no chink cosmetics
>updates working towards fixing it

DT has
>no content
>shit balance
>retard systems
>chink storefront for cosmetics
>chink storefront for weapons so you can't ever get the weapon you want without playing gachapulls every couple hours
>chinked out fucking business strategy where they'll just make new classes to sell and ignore basically every other problem for ages

I am sick and tired of pretending like tencent isn't obviously what gave darktide the extra kick into the trashcan. They were never good devs, always fucked up hard, but layer tencent ontop of it and the game is doomed
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>The whole time it was a vermintranny just wanting to stir shit and cry about darktide again
Why am I not surprised?
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>>567354280
shut the fuck you retarded schizophrenic nigger nobody cares about your fantasy beef between two games that almost everyone playing one played the other of
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>And now the vermintranny is crashing out after accidentally outing xerself
*sigh*
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in the last 17 months darktide got 1 map (short one)
vt2 got 5

lol
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>>567355170
Was it real in your head?
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consume paywalled class and get excited for next paywalled class
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>>567355250
>no it's not real!
holy shit lmao shopclickers cannot imagine a world where they get anything but paid slop
it must hurt extra because its even the same company yet darktide gets chink slop and vt2 gets full maps
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Yep, xe's melting down
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>>567355552
thats not me melting down thats my piss trickling down your face
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>wonder why thread fast
>it's not new class talk
>not even far far west
>ratniggers starting war with darkies
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>>567355550
>No proof
What a vivid imagination you have!
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>>567352884
Russ has special anti-psyker fuckery, so that’s to be expected. Magnus only jobbed because Guilliman had Sisters around and he decided to engage in melee for some dumb reason. Before that he was whooping him. Magnus really is just broken so the authors have to make him hold the dumb ball a lot.
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>>567355772
>fatshark releasing anything but paywalled classed with reskinned abilities? NO IT CAN'T BE!!! he must be lying!!!!!!!
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>>567356059
>Still zero proof
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This jeet is extra retarded. Other jeets at least try to get some money out of the engagement
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Why is having so many cosmetics such a sore spot for vermintrannies? Not our fault Warhammer Fantasy has a garbage outfits.
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vt2 is getting another free map soon and darktide is just getting yet another low effort reskinned class with built in p2w
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>>567356374
>vt2 is getting another free map soon
Was it real in your head?
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Extremely late to the party but i finally decided to try payday 2. Stealth heists are absolutely miserable and i don't want to do another one ever again (framing frame btw)
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>>567356517
Let it go. It's dead
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>>567356423
It does have garbage outfits. Why do you think Fantasy died in the first place? Majority of outfits in that setting are larp-tier trash.
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>>567356639
Do you really think you can pretend like you didn't completely fuck up the grammar in an unmistakably brown fashion?
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>playing inferno as my blood angels vanguard
>me and lamenter assault fighting the horde as generic chapter sniper tries to speed run, jobs, dies and leaves
>angels sanguine bulwark joins, we continue to btfo nidders and easily clear mission with no downs
FACT: sons of sanguinius are the most powerful race in the world
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>>567356813
It was a perfectly normal grammar. You need to stop cope, Vermintranny
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>>567356813
>Making accusations of "muh brown" instead of actually responding
You lost.
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>>567356517
stealth should never have existed in payday 2
>entire mechanic feels tacked on, very low effort
>once you solve a map it's just a matter of how RNG has fucked you this time, not even remotely any expression of player skill
>you have to bring a loadout specifically for it, so if things go sideways there is no converting to a shootout, you just restart, because that chopped down primary you're sporting for low concealment isn't going to fucking cut it
>instead of shooting guns at cops you spend a half hour opening crates and crab walking across the floor and into a sewer, and if at any point you fuck it up it's just over
>dumbasses unironically making public stealth lobbies, as if that's ever actually going to work
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>>567357087
I don't know how payday 2 changed much later but at the start it had static guard patterns so stealth was fun, you could observe properly, figure out what guards need to be taken out, solve the missions.
Then you had them "fix" this by making psychic guards that just randomly take over other guards patrols, as if the other guard being mission wouldn't be a cause of alarm if anything. They just did that bandaid so you can't actually stealth missions anymore and thats when we quit the game because we hated the devs for being such no fun faggots.

That said we never grinded shit. We just did the heists once or twice each. 0 fucks given about gay little grinds.
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>>567357460
The backpedal of the century lmao
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>>567357604
What a pathetic attempt at deflection. You will have to come to terms with the fact that there are certain things of which you browngroids are intellectually incapable of doing. You just can't possibly debate white people and have any chance of winning. We have the benefit of arguing in our own native language and our IQs are on average 20 points higher than yours

Now, say "sorry, master" and scamper off so we can enjoy our thread without you stinking it up
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>>567358114
>What a pathetic attempt at deflection
The projection of the century. You started crashing out when i insulted vermintrannies outfits and now youre going "BUT ITS NOT BECAUSE I CARE ABOUT IT!"
You lost.
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>>567355898
I mean sure, but for what it's worth all Primarchs are Psykers to some degree and the interactions are unknown. I mean, Corax seems to basically transcend physical form, Lion is casually teleporting around and even Guilliman who otherwise represses his abilities like homosexuality has a moment where he channels raw Big E power, not to mention that he's at least enough of a Psyker to use Big E's magical flaming sword.
Also, I'd say that Magnus is one of the surviving Primarchs who actually ended up much worse than he was - not only he isn't really whole (the whole Shards of Magnus thing), the Chaos Prince deal in his case felt like he gained very little and instead got saddled with tons of downsides, one of big ones being that Tzzentch can just decide to randomly fuck over him if he wants to.
All this is why I don't really like involving Magnus in this very much. He's a wildcard because he has immense theoretical power but the amount of practical issues with it's application mean his actual power can drop lower than anyone's else too.
I mean, if a couple of emo bitches in top knots are enough to turn off your biggest advantage, is it really one? Fuck, next time they need to tell Guilliman to borrow a Null Rod from a Black Ship and stick it up the Anus of Magnus.
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>>567358202
>projection
What you really meant to say was "no u!"
This is just going to keep happening to you. There just isn't anything a retarded browngroid like you can think of saying that will save you from getting dunked on
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Does anyone want to play Darktide? My 7900xtx shat the bed
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>>567356332
I have never once felt compelled to buy a single cosmetic in either game, real money or in game currency, because the Warhammer aesthetic is ass. The characters look like something out of a Spirit Halloween bargain bin pre-soaked in cosplayer stink.
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>>567358454
You're so mad you are not even talking about the game anymore. Holy melty lmfao
I don't know why you're so mad at me. I didn't make fantasy being shitty. Pick a better hobby in the future.
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>>567358551
Sour grapes.
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>>567358705
You are so hopelessly inept that you still haven't figured out a way to move beyond shitting on a video game about which i do not care

You come here trying to stir shit but you instantly fold as soon as someone actually decides to slap your titties around
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uwu what's this?
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>>567359538
>Hes still crashing out 10 minutes later
Oh, youre just mentally ill.
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>>567359627
Translation: please stop raping me
Might as well. Your asshole has lost all of its tightness by this point
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>>567359825
brutal
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>>567359825
>Projecting his weird rape fantasies
All this over some cosmetics in a video game. Genuine mental illness.
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>>567359825
>Imagination of having sex with another man
That's gay.
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>False flagging
>Samefagging
Jesus, I didn't know vermintrannies were this sensitive.
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>>567360116
>Projecting
Start using the word correctly and effectively or consider abandoning it all together. It is clearly far too complicated for you
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>>567360450
So you were just sharing your weird gay rape fantasies with us?
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>>567360293
You could reply hundreds of times but it still wouldn't be worth the reply of one white man
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>>567360569
It's less of a fantasy and more of an accurate analogy for what i have been doing to you for the last few minutes
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>>567360719
>Calls other people brown
>Rape analogy
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>>567360570
>>567360719
damn. you're seriously good
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this is what "the only content I have to look forward to is a paid class that I can only use in the existing maps I'm already bored with" does to a general...zamn...
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>>567361445
Its just some vermintranny having a colossal meltdown because I made fun of their cosmetics.
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you're both having a colossal meltdown
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>One person have a meltdown screeching about brown and rape
>The other is just laughing at them
>"You're both having a meltdown"
Okay, vermintranny.
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>>567361445
It results in filthy browngroids getting curbstomped whenever they start getting uppity
>>567361573
He's the tard and i'm the wrangler. You would be thanking me if you had any sense
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>>567361651
You started getting really passive once you realized what you were up against. You might be brown and retarded, but at least you aren't suicidal
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>>567361691
>It results in filthy browngroids getting curbstomped whenever they start getting uppity
When in your meltdown did you disprove vermintroons cosmetics arnt garbage though? I think you forgot why you were fighting.
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>>567361821
>Still projecting his weird fetishes
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>>567361827
Link the post where i disagreed with your statement regarding vermintide cosmetics

You can skip this step btw. I just wanted to show you how easy it was for me to completely disarm you
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>>567361691
>>567361821
>>567361827
>>567361942
>>567362082
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAA1xgTTw9w
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>>567358551
I don’t agree, I think both games don’t do a very good job of showing their respective settings fashion honestly, if you went off of them exclusively I wouldn’t really blame you for feeling that way though
>>567359594
Like, War Orc?
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>>567362082
So youre just mentally ill and you keep trying to get me to ERP with you.
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>>567362156
I saw a brownoid acting uppity and decided to take matters into my own hands

Now that you have lost the vermintide angle, are you now going to pivot to clutching your pearls over my vulgar language, because that sounds very weak and boring even for someone as untalented at banter as you

On a side note, i want everyone to notice how his grammar, capitalization and punctuation changes
This is because he's an ESL and uses AI to help him type coherently
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>>567362638
>I saw a brownoid acting uppity and decided to take matters into my own hands
By trying to get them to ERP with you?
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>>567356953
>Normally carry every game
>Run Black Templars irl
>See so many bad BT's with the cross on both knees I feel embarrassed to be associated with them
>Start using Death Company Lamenter colours
>Only BT I see these days are almost always Ultramarines painted black due to over customisation and fucking gold.
>Redo all my guys into brother initiates, black trim except assault with the red trim.
>Continue to carry, ignore the tourist BT shit eating retards and their antics
>Force myself to melee every single terminus other than thropes who I rush as soon as they drop down.
>Find new enjoyment in the game as the one light in the darkness of bad BT players

I have never seen a good Salamander, UM are 90/100 bad, with the top 10% unstoppable gods of war. DA and BA are above average generally. Wolves are always new or just shit. Every non sniper RG is top tier, 90/100 snipers are awful. Not enough sample size for everyone else. I wish BT were not as popular as they are because they seem to attract the same surface level dregs the UM do, but just edgy.
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>>567362702
I was right. You're really going with the
>i'm too retarded to understand insults and analogies so i'm going to act as if you want sex
Angle

Your browness compels you to make any attempt you can at annoying me as punishment for being your racial and intellectual superior. Such a pathetic and lowly existence
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>>567362638
>>567363246
damn dude. go easy on him
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>>567363246
>Still trying to ERP with me
Bro, stop. This shit is weird. Youre like 40.
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Does it apply only to allies or does it also affect yourself?
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>>567363615
You're really bad at this
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>>567363649
Now...
It SAYS it affects you and allies...
If it really does that I dunno
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>>567363771
Yeah, bro. I don't ERP with 40 year old men. Youre fucking weird, dude. Stop replying to me.
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>>567363649
>to you
Who do you think "you" is?
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>>567363875
>practically begging me to stop schooling you
That was easy
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>>567364026
>Now hes pretending I'm a minor in school
Fucking weird posts, bro.
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Why is there a vermintide player trying to do underage ERP rape with another anon?
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are there any decent build sites for darktide or am I stuck with gameslantern?
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The downside to btfoing the browncel is that he doesn't have to creativity or intelligence to put up a good fight. He always sticks to 1 or 2 angles of attack no matter how ineffective or idiotic they are, so you always get bored eventually
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>>567364896
We watch our best friends on YouTube for our builds
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>>567365105
got any recommendations for who to watch?
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>>567365240
Oh this is a real question. Sorry. I think Reginald and Mister E. Do builds. I don't listen to brits so idk what they do
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>>567364896
Just ask here and pay attention to how we respond to the advice you get

If some complete and utter fucking retard recommends the ogryn ripper and 50 people show up to shit on him, then you know you probably shouldn't use the ripper
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>>567364896
What do you not like about gameslantern?
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>>567366278
He can't think for himself but he's not retarded enough to use gameslantern builds
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>>567366343
hey, that's me
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>>567366343
Fair enough
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The wait before something new always feels the longest. The new class isn't even going to release on the 21st its just going to be a trailer.
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>>567364896
Just ask for a build here and 2 people will give you a build and then argue about who is more wrong/retarded/brown for 3 hours. Then after those 3 hours you check who won the argument and pick his build
It's darwinistic
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>>567366278
>>567366343
the site feels outdated and builds aren't updated from time to time so i dont want to use outdated builds that could hinder the team
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>>567367787
Sisters, get his off-topic posting ass
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>Helbore + Devils claw
Really fun
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>>567365047
k
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>another 4 hours of shitflinging
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>>567368834
All because some vermintroon got ass blasted because i criticized their cosmetics.
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>>567368614
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>>567368970
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>>567369395
Right? Imagine losing your mind over cosmetics
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>>567369063
Why the helbore slander? I feel like it's one of the only good weapons for vet since they added the plasma gunner
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>>567370580
It makes a single kill every two seconds if your aim is perfect.
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5 more sleeps
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>>567371434
skill issue
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>>567370580
the only people trying to take the helbore seriously as a weapon are krieg larpers, and krieg larpers are just wehraboos by a different name
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>>567371489
No anon that's literally how good it is at maximum skill
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>>567371501
Kriegs are modeled after world war one, not two
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>>567371714
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>>567371556
for you
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>>567371826
I'll bet this happened in america, because it sounds like an american education moment
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>>567371919
yes, nazis playing dumb when confronted is very common in america, I'm sure he had a totally normal and health reason for cosplaying a german soldier at school
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>>567372072
>totally normal and health reason for
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>>567372143
giving up? okay, go get punched, I'm gonna sleep
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>>567371501
retard, steel legion is right there
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>>567372143
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>>567372596
Shitting on Steel Legion means shitting on Morrow, and no one wants to do that
>inb4 contrarian does exactly that
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>>567371501
>>567371826
>>567372072
Didn’t get enough attention earlier in the thread eh? That’s alright, here, a (You) for your troubles
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>>567261350
Second to Magnus, I feel like Mortarion is the strongest of the lot currently. He’s absurdly tanky and the longer a fight drags on the worse your chances get of beating (and unless your name is Guilliman and you have a direct hot line to the Emperor himself for a power boost, the fight *will* drag on).
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>>567371434
>two seconds
mk V is .6 seconds for full charge
every mk increases charge time by .3 seconds
You can oneshot anything other than crushers, muties, and plasma gunners with with 15 MF stacks and a crit (about a 35% chance if you fire immediately at full charge with surgical with no reciprocity stacks)
Without a crit you'll 2 shot pretty much anything
Every other mk is a meme
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>>567374559
Add looking for targets, moving reticule to target and ADS time to that.
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>>567374704
>add ranged combat to that
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>>567367515
You can filter by last updated but yeah I feel you
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Oh shit. We are finally getting perk tree loadouts in SM2, instead of just weapons.
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>Automated sentry class with servo-skulls flying around you and blapping fools
I will now play your game again. Fucking love sentry classes.
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>>567375082
Right, I should probably be more obvious about my point. I'm not saying the Hellbore is bad, it's quite good at what it does, which is killing single targets fast. What's "with the slander" >>567370580 is that it only kills one target at a time. Most people here don't actually play Havoc, they play Auric where your build has to be able to do everything because you're with incompetents that won't carry their own weight. So given that, plasma, recon and bolter are all strictly better than the hellbore because it will do what the hellbore does and kill mixed hordes quickly, since you can't count on your team.

It's good, but you can't take multiple roles with it, and relying on cooperative play in a coop game is a massive skill issue apparently.
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>>567375893
>All the datamined skills are about auto-aim and servo skulls doing the work for you
Certified sissy support class, befitting of Skitters.
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>>567375989
Fair
I've been playing maelstrom lately and usually have at least one other competent player who can keep hold of an area and follow smokes
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>>567377264
Always nice to have a guy who knows how to be a vanguard or orbit shooters
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>>567355250
Well post the other new maps that Darktide got in the past 17 months that weren't just rehashes of old map geometry.
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>>567375459
I look forward to saber fucking it up in some way.
I mean on top of the fact that they didn't communicate well enough that you will not be able to switch prestige perks, so people who have been begging for this feature for two years will feel disappointed anyway.
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>>567380354
>"You need to disprove my own claim for me!"
Man I wish my imagination was as wild as yours
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How have I not noticed until now that /sm2g/ is gone?
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>>567371446
The mask stays on during skitussy sessions
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>>567382060
For the same reason it died in the first place. Low interest
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>>567382060
I'm assuming people who kept sm2g up by playing dressup are just ashamed to post here.
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>>567381747
Irrelevant.
Show me the other maps Darktide got in 17 months or suffer in silence.
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>>567382806
>Erm, me providing proof is irrelevant to my claim
I accept your concession.
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>>567383497
you raped him
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>>567382710
That’s exactly what it is. Rightfully so.
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>peeps getting hyped for an announcement of a class that is releasing in july at the EARLIEST
ooooooof
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>>567385325
Mechanicus releases the 21st. More likely Skit is releasing the 21st too to ride the hype.
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>>567385325
I'm not getting hyped, I'm mad as fuck they're doing this announcement of an announcement of an announcement shit again.
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>>567375893
Please no, I have seen coop difficulty destroyed by the addition of automated sentry drones before
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>>567386590
The key to automated classes has always been to make their killing power worse than any optimal free-aim player, and instead make them more team-based.

We know the Skitarii seems to have an automated hacking skill where nobody has to be a gun down during those gay ass fucking letter cyphers.
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>>567385325
Likely release date is June 23rd.
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aw yeah boys it ain't a 'secondary' weapon this week
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>>567388415
>mjölk coins
another mechanic forgotten never to be touched again
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>>567388753
lmao trully the "warframe" of coop games
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>>567341257
>"Skitussy? Yeah, that fits..."
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>>567389358
can you even say transphobic now?
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>>567381060
>I mean on top of the fact that they didn't communicate well enough that you will not be able to switch prestige perks
They are so fucking extraordinarily retarded.
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>>567316215
Arbites maul doesn't have skullcrusher. Scoreboards won't show you just how insane that blessing is because it buffs the entire team's damage.
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Questions lads, questions. 1) How the fuck do you make inexorable judgement worth the points? I just want to go fast, it seems like it's mogged to death by martyrdom and blazing piety though.
2) Is there a better "cleave through literally everything like you're wielding a lightsaber" build than blazing piety + eviscerator? I mean I guess relic blade but I've played enough relic blade, I hate toggling the fucking thing on and off all the time.
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>>567386940
>Skitarii seems to have an automated hacking skill where nobody has to be a gun down during those gay ass fucking letter cyphers.
I believe we call this enshittification.
>add new "content" to the game
>change a bunch of puzzles to be extremely cancerous
>actually kind of a pain to solve in a timely manner
>cheats are now even more OP
>most players can't even complete the puzzle because they're mouthbreathers, so protecting them doesn't work
>most teams don't let you complete the puzzle without cheats because it takes more than a couple seconds and nobody will protect you
>actual ass-cancer

>be a couple months later
>sell the solution to the problem you introduced, with a DLC class that auto solves the godawful hacking puzzle
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NGL those Skitarii femboys I see on Tumblr when I'm goon browsing do something to me.
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>>567390785
>1) How the fuck do you make inexorable judgement worth the points?
Use a heavy weapon that swings far too slow without it. Thammer wants damage more, so you're probably kind of limited to the relic blade. Heavy attacks are weird with attack speed, I believe you don't get the full benefits, so you want something that has good light attacks.
Don't forget that IJ works with ranged weapons. It's a half-decent way to juice your boltgun, but that's about it.
>2) Is there a better "cleave through literally everything like you're wielding a lightsaber" build
Relic blade is that. Never toggle it off, just weapon swap, it has no clunky animation. Remember that the toggle is a short block, and that you might get stunned out of it if you have no stamina; a stamina curio helps while you're still getting used to it, but I never felt the need once I did. Put on Rampage, Cranial, carapace/unyielding/flak to taste. It has retarded unyielding damage already so you shouldn't need it unless you're fishing for instagibs from stealth. No, there are no better blessings (Rampage is actually strength and Swedes can't write tooltips, Cranial does everything you want heat management wise).
The hard part isn't toggling, it's getting used to X's moveset. It's a weapon you need to get used to, it will feel awkward at first, it does have a learning curve, don't give up on it, it's definitively one of zealot's best weapons. It pulls its weight even without a keystone or ability to support it. It absolutely melts through everything if you do martyrdom, and has brutal damage output with FotF or stealth.
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>>567391562
I feel like any weapon that wants attack speed is still going to favor Martyrdom which gives more at full stacks. Ranged is interesting though, never really thought about that but I don't exactly play Zealot to do ranged damage. The weapon swap tip is hot though actually, I am gonna keep that one in mind. I'm plenty familiar with the Mk X though, I'm just kinda bored of relic blade. I saw Perfected Strike on the eviscie and wanted to try to make something powerful out of it, to middling success so far in aurics, unfortunately.
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>>567391136
Maybe it will be limited in some way. I do fear you're right, but it also would just make no sense to have an advanced skitarii deployed that has to try over and over to hack a simple console. My pet idea was it should have a talent that makes them *easier*, like an extra highlighted glyph in the slow back and forth puzzle, highlighting a random glyph out of the 4 glyphs you're looking for on that one, idk... better ball control on that one? That one is stupid easy for babies anyway, might as well let the skittles auto-hack that one.
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>>567390201
Yeah og shock has skullcrusher but I think in terms of your single target dps ignoring team the arbites maul is better. When accounting for the team the shock maul should end up doing more. I usually use the crusher to apply skullcrusher even though it hits like a paper towel. Whoever designed that garbage needs to be fired.
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>>567391952
Ranged zealot is definitely ass, and the only reason you should ever consider it is for hoarding melkbux for curio gambling. But IJ is basically zealot's ranged keystone when it comes to supporting most weapons the best. Unfortunately BP also comes with an assload of crit so it's actually superior with most weapons. Thing is, zealot struggles really hard to hit one-shot breakpoints even with the bolter, and IJ actually helps quite a lot. You still likely need retarded shit on your bolter like unarmored + flak just so you can kill gunners good, IF you're doing a ranged-focused zealot.
It's good enough to work well in auric if you build it good, but obviously inefficient and borderline griefing if someone else uses ammo better.
>I feel like any weapon that wants attack speed is still going to favor Martyrdom
Yes, Martyrdom and Blazing Piety are the only relevant keystones, but all of the sperging out about Inexorable Judgment is completely overblown, the keystone is perfectly usable and if GOFAST is your goal, you can even use it with a knife and do well enough. You'll just have to put in a bit of effort and maybe make sacrifices to minmax the thing, because you do kinda want some investment in the keystone for it to really shine.
I suggest using it with stealth because you pick up backstab stuff on the way, which also encourages knife a bit more. The attack speed is only good for stacking Uncanny Strike but that's fine.
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>>567392291
Yeah I've done it with a knife before when I was still super green, it was definitely fun as hell going that fast. I'm still not a havoc warrior though so, I bet I could get away with it pretty easy in aurics with the relic blade, since you mentioned that. Might give that a shot. One more random question if you don't mind: Still on perfected strike, does "ignoring hitmass" actually affect the damage your cleave does, at all? Or do you need to also get cleave damage to make passing through all the targets viable? It's been hard to test in the meat grinder cause of how spread out everything is.



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