sickness edition>Demo DaysNEXT: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-69Previous: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-68>AGDG Resourceshttps://hackmd.io/SNd2YQugRG-36CLYc8Og2w>Progress Posting Guidehttps://pastebin.com/0xEt5atn (embed)>Helpful LinksNew Threads: >>>/vg/agdgArchive: https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/subject/agdg//agdg/ Steam Games: https://made-by-agdg.vercel.app/>How to WebMhttps://obsproject.comhttps://github.com/argorar/WebMConverter>Previous Thread>>567147206
very curious how all the complainers about "steam posting" never ONCE talk about all the e-celeb and grifter spam in the thread. when mmo98 released this thread was GENUINELY unreadable. literally 2/3 of the thread was about that shit. but somehow it's the steam discussions that are the problem, but never the e-celebs.
this thread has been blessed
gogem won btw
>>567232383Hes a game developer its interesting to see a release from him especially when hes very open and relatable, no one wants to hear you proselytize about the evils of steam.What exactly is your desired outcome? Should we march onto steam headquaters? Nerf the amount of reach we get by not using steam? >You can do just fine outside of steamOkay show how much you made, no?Fuck off.
>>567233081whats so interesting about your boyfriend?
AIchads... b
>>567233081>immediately goes to steam argumentnta but, just shutup, and dont talk about e-celebs eitherdont blogdont respond to anyone with names, or the ai posteronly post progress or ask how to progress, and answer if you caneverything else is trash, including this post telling you what to post
>>567233081>Hes a game developer its interesting to see a release from him especially when hes very open and relatableexcept you don't talk about his game nearly as much as you talk about his personality. given that all these gamedev e-celebs worship steam it makes sense that you freak out so much over any criticism of it, even the tamest ones.
Trying to succeed in life or have any success? Wanting to make games? Wanting to work? That's jeet hustle culture. Making games to sell and make money? Absolute pajeet indian from india tier.
and now the indian spambot is here. guess the thread is over without even starting.
>>567233462bootstraps under another name
what else should i add
>>5672337795000 variations of fishes and jingle flash effects with "rare gold fish" for all the subhumans
>>567233779make the water move a lil. some splashing about if you will
>>567232383>all the e-celeb and grifter spamWhere? I pop into the thread once this week and it's just you trashing the thread to punish everyone for making games or discussing gamedevs or youtubers or stuff. But I never actually see grifters or youtubers anywhere.>but somehow it's the steam discussions You don't have "steam discussions". You bitch aimlessly into the void out loud and in everyone's ear everyday for years. Sometimes accompanied by some other failure washout like gogem. Who cares. Shutup.
>>567233779fish movement seems all wrong
>>567233779how about you finish your game instead of fussing over le epic fishing minigame
>>567233081>What exactly is your desired outcome?To wake up everyday and cry to strangers on the internet about the same one or two issues. Everyday is a victory for neverdevs like this because they aren't actually trying to make a game. They are succeeding at exactly what it is they want to do with their life : be an annoying crybaby failure who attacks a message board with spam to punish everyone for making things.
Not everything deserves a response anon. We don't serve updoots in this town pardner, so by merely engaging you're doing a heckin' bump. Lets take a step back and just observe. Best way to combat your enemies is to simply not engage. See em on page 10 my friend. HEH. *shrug* I'm out. *blade flash* *smoke bomb* *empty street*
>>567233241your honor, the defendant made his victim generate CSAM. the victim was a tender version 5.5we ask for the strongest punishment afforded by AI law: jarred brain
>>567233281>except you don't talk about his game nearly as much as you talk about his personalityThis is all in your head. This is why you seethe about "ecelebs". Anyone who isn't a disfigured weirdo drooling into the camera is chad to you, and chad is to blame for you never making videogames, at least that's how it works in your mind. You belong in a bell tower ringing bells where you don't have to witness other human beings like Chris Zukowski and Marnix, both of whom send you into absolute meltdowns.
>>567234074Seethe little bitch. I love that you watched Wasteland and Nuns and Guns both win while you were crying about them day one because you sensed the victory on them. SEETHE.
>>567233779a resolution that isn't 640x400
>>567235049Wasteland? you mean the game series made by the OG fallout co creator? I haven't looked at nuns and guns, I do have Nunholy on my backlog though
>>567233779add another axis to the miinigame but also remove the minigame UI so that i have next to no idea what im doing right or wrong to catch the fish. that's what fishing is all about.
>>567233569Literally pull yourself up by your bootstraps and make a game you disgusting failure, spending your entire life crying about reasons you won't be instantly rich for making your absolute first game (because you have never made a single game in your life) instead of just being a man and toughening up and firmly grasping and shaking the hand of a game engine and making a game, you disgusting little NEET. Your healthcare will be revoked soon unless you get a job, little NEET FREELOADER neverdev.
uh oh meltie
steamies... they're here.
>567235682Ahem excuse me, we in agdg would appreciate if only actual current gamedevs making games gave their feedback please thank you
>>567232180This is probably what’s gonna happen for my game
Neverdevs? Destroyed.Faildevs? Destroyed.Fakedevs? Destroyed.Wasdevs? Destroyed.
>>567235549>the OG fallout co creator?We're allowed to talk about that eceleb because his entire reputation now is crying about AAA games. Crying about games? Good. Making games? INDIAN
>>567236056oh you're going to post your game?*waits*
there are more posts of this schizo retard crying about neverdevs and gogem than there are posts about steam and e-celebs he's crying about
>>567236936its a new kind of thread schizo
>>567236936I think we have something worse than “Neverdevs.”We have “Negadevs.”As in people who don’t dev but dedicate all their time to dragging down others
>>567236884Here? Never. Imagine posting your game in agdg after monsters like you turned it into this festering mound of neverdevs crying about valve.
>>567237057you are one of them you fucking histrionic bitch. kill yourself already.
>>567236936>no YOU're the one who is cryingWhy would we be crying? I have a game. You?You will neverevermake a game. It's understandable that you spend all your time CRYING about us daring to post "ecelebs" who actually make games. Your distress is understandable.
>gogemAhem *taps sign*>>567236492>Wasdevs? Destroyed.
>>567237297>>567237452gogem gets under your skin because deep down you know he's right
>>567237173Did I ever insult you
steamies... too many to fight... I need a break. DAMN YOU GABENCUNT!!!
retards
There has to be a better place for game development online than this. Maybe I should go find it
>>567237683Gogem doesn't get under anyone's skin lol he's an old dog just like the one he posted. Sits around in front of the gamedev store generally bothering nobody. Certainly isn't a gamedev anymore though. Hasn't made a game in many many years now. Just whimpers and howls about steam and valve now. Sharing fleas with the neverdevs like you.*sprays you with a hose*
>>567237852thanks for the running commentary echogemyou a real one
>>567237924you ain't goin nowhere and you know it so shut the FUCK up
*flicks cigarette butt on your shirt*
>>567237783He thinks you're me because you're implying neverdevs are bad somehow. He hates being reminded that not being a gamedev is not okay in a thread FOR GAMEDEVS.
>>567237924youtube shorts and jeetlon's site are unironically the best places for indie devs to market to each other and get their Motorslice moment
>>567238410>Motorslicewhat is the infatuation with this game
>>567237924Wish I knew lol. I assume most of the local yesdevs fucked off to twitter or discord?
>>567238410>jeetlon's siteYou're calling Elon a jeet too now huh. How cute. >implying twitter is a good place to market your game>implying indie devs markting their game to eachother is desirableYou are the jeet. You may exit my thread now.
>>567237712>gets himself banned from steam>cries about it for 10 yearslol
>>567237946>outing yourself as from a culture that doesn't love dogs>(yikes)
>>567238465>what is the infatuation with this gamehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X5EZarsaNK8
>this place is so bad now since 20 minutes ago when I was called a neverdev>where can I go to hang around gamedevs and be an opinionated retard and not be told to shutup?lol
>>567239013I mean I never would have heard of this game if not for this threadI guess you are a /v/ tourist and /v/ is going ape shit over it because of gooning?
>>567239013>anime girl>english voicechrist
>>567238885>everyone is a brown pajeet indian from india>everyone is a paid corporate assassin shill for steam who gets paid for every post they make when I'm having my daily meltie about valveToo bad straya didn't sneak some schizo meds in your vaxx shot huh
It's amazing watching gogem strawman everything into "you're indian" now. He used to pride himself as an intellectual. Now I wouldn't trust him to "debate" a 19 yr old fresh out of highschool.
>>567238410Marketing isn’t viable unless you have a massive social media presence
>>567239545Kinda seems like you have a hard on for the guy
>/v/3 trailer only has 1.1k viewsOhnonono Betzbros... I was told we were winning this year...
>>567239281whoa who you quoting with all that? i just points out you're disrespecting dogs, that wasn't an invitation to dox yourself.
Gogem was never intelligent actually. Just managed to teach himself how to make flash cartoons move when you click a button. This later evolved into him making board games where you change numbers on a screen by clicking buttons. He has never evolved beyond that. His arrogance is astounding, but it's really all he has. A giant smoke screen.
You are the jeet. You may exit my thread now.
gogem has made more money off of gamedev than anyone posting about him
>>567239693betz needs to get the lolidevs on his show to boost the ratings
>>567240030Cool. He sold his soul to the devil to make $400 a year.
Nobody is actually buying gogems games lol. He has some clandestine support group which funnels him pity money as a form of embezzlement so he can be paid off for all the dirt he's done. He's made some truly disgusting media in his life to serve dark forces.
>>567240030that's underplaying it, even that guy who shits out solitaire reskins has made more money than them, that's not a big deal.what pisses them off is the wikipedia page and all the lets plays and documentary and shit they daydream about.
>pearl clutching in a thread where loli is frequently postedjej
>>567240578TRVKE
>>567240578Don't get nervous gogem, nobody is going to share your "cartoons".
how do you make your scenes not look empty?
>567240534>still pretending he's famousThe majority of your work you will never share here because it's so shameful. Strange kind of success you've had.
how do i get good at character design
>>567241216What do you mean? Just fill the scene with stuff.
>gogem now thinks there is a documentary about himReminder schizophrenia worsens with age.
>>567241320Where's your proggy?
>>567241498i am terrible at doing things randomly like i have no idea how to fill for example a forest with trees and nature and making it look natural
To the anon who genned this last thread. Wow that's really neat!! I almost fell like I wasted years learning to draw.. almost.And thanks, I did try with this design.
>>567241849>i have no idea how to fill for example a forest with trees and nature and making it look naturalJust do it procedurally.
>>567242176how so
>>567242301just pet the dog nigger
>>567242487
>>567242487don't call me nigger you pedo shit
>>567237924The behavior of people here prohibits anybody with any sense of professionalism and drive from sharing those other places.
>>567241849it will look natural, just place stuff and rotate and scale it
>>567242070What's the name of the artist this is using again?
>>567241571I thought you were the one posting those sakura-chan
>>567241571i was sent to take care of my grandpa’s land in the countryside because i’m the only unemployed big boy. it’s been a few months now, and i regret not upgrading my phone over the last decade. hopefully, i can return next week or by the end of the month
GODON'T!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
I've tried to use AI in a real production enviroment, and shit's so broken is almost useless except for a google search replacement.
>>567234489>It is the first robot in>the world to be controlled>entirely by living tissue.But not the last!
>>567247214Which one did you use? I haven't looked at the underlying code so it is probably a pure spaghetti nightmare but claude seems to be working very well for the "vibe coded" game I'm making to test it out
>>567246804Yeah. I noticed something wrong with the curve editor since roughly 4.6 too.
betz means victory
Well aggy, why aren't you like this towards your fellow dev?
I'm going to dev now. You may wish me luck.
>>567248683Helping them by getting 10 views from other indie devs, none of them whom will buy the game either.
I just had to give unity access to files and folders because only unity hub had access. Didn't have to give permission manually until today. Did something change?
>>567248838It's bait to get the other devs to retweet and spread awareness of your game.
>>567249617to other devs who won't buy your game
been working on a game jam game close to midnight, i think right now i have to do 4 things>make music/sound effects>cover art using screenshots>graphical replacement>add more to the layout system>(optional) add more enemiesthen it should be good to upload to see what people think before i put more effort into it. it has room to expand upon if I want to turn it into a cheap steam release.
>>567247478I used Gemini Flash.
>>567251118That's not even close to good enough. You need Codex or Claude Code for large codebases.
>>567251250Not paying for your shitty slop.
>>567233779add a cigarette between the index finger and middle finger on the hand sprite
>>567251291STRONG snail cat energy on display here. If you want SOTA tools you gotta pay up.
Is it just me or did gemini get vaxx'd big time with the most recently lobotomy?I might have to go back to chatgpt
>luddite>look inside>poormany such cases
>>567251291You can get VERY far with the free tier of Claude. But the price is insanely cheap for access to opus and Claude code.
hmmmm
>>567251953I made this game
I need to rework the player's attack moveset. As it stands, it just has too many flashy moves that don't need to be there for their intended purpose.>Pause attacks geared more towards multihit combo extension>Hold attacks meant for big singular strikes with heavy knockbackThe problem I'm running into right now is that, even though the current moveset serves that purpose just fine, it's just not really the correct animations. Not just their quality, but like what the player is actually doing.I need to think of something more economical and precise/acrobatic. I'm open to suggestions as to what kind of moves he should be doing to create a moveset that feels more precise and calculated rather than flashy.
>>567251953hotline miami 3d
i've been seeing a lot of cool shaders. should i mess around with unreal engine material editor then try to learn hlsl afterward? is there any limitations between the two?>t. 80 iq
>>567252194Hotline Miami 64
>>567252276Sure why not
>>567248709good luck!
>>567248709Good Luck
getting better with my low poly skills.
>>567252952
>>567252952>>567251953>>567252179mental illness
>>567252952>>567252179same picture
>>567252952nice baboon ass
>>567252952The hell
>>567235883>firmly grasping and shaking the hand of a game enginenice
>>567248683they have the same publisher
>>567252952Great job, Cris!
>>567251291>DID YOU JUST SAY NO TO AI?!?!?!?!?!?!?!
>>567249926You don't buy games?
>>567247214>>567251250>>567251291Can't you just copy and paste code from documentation, StackOverflow, or a book? It's what AI does.
Is this okay topology for an arch?I read engines deal with triangles, but no clear answer if higher triangles slows uses more resources.
>>567233779add an anime girl so people will actually buy your game
>>567255342>It's what AI does.
>>567255342>>567247214>obviously didn't use AI for code since 2023
>>567255204hahaha, no? what fucking year do you think it is bruh
>>567255507Is AI already sentient and learned all on its own?
>>567240954based what game is this? need more loli games
>>567255484nanite will fix it
>>567255617
>>567255550A fellow Game Pass subscriber.
>>567255617snailcat moment
An evening gone.. I will need to do this for 8 directions too. Guess ill just have to completely no life this until dd. I wonder if i can manage a good chunk of his animations + implementing combat itself until next dd. Id be satisfied with the combat logic + 1 polished direction.>>567252952What i see when i look at women.>>567251953Bug aside i like the visuals.>>567233779The sideways swimming fish cracked me up. I agree with the anon who said you should add a cigarette to the cursor. Although it might look too cluttered then.
>>567256093very queer animation
>>567252179I think if the chicken had a very active and aggressive idle it would look less jank. It often just looks paused. For moves. Idk go watch fencing videos with the led trackers on them for inspo
>>567255693Thanks. I'll check it out.
>>567256093why spin a rifle twice over?
>>567256280*Actually just play soul caliber
>>567256515Yes?
>>567237924Sites that host regular game jams might not be bad.
>>567256093>>567256515first he has to load a round into the chamber and the next two are so everyone around him can see him do it in the gayest possible way and get angry
>>567256582it's cute, but I can't really tell if that characters female
>>567256093nice animation. not a fan of your gay femboys, though
>>567256231Thank you :>>>567256515I could remove a frame, it just seems a bit short then imo. But ill ask my bf if they like it with a shorter spin.>>567256679Im happy you understand. He wont do it often though. So i hope it wont be too annoying. Shooting is supposed to be a finisher and consumes all bleed stacks.>>567256693Male.>>567256779Why not? Do they look too ugly? Hopefully ill make one male design that you like.
>>5672560938 directions, and it's not the only move... I would have made a 3d model and pixeled over. Nice work though.
>>567257016>Im happy you understand. He wont do it often though. So i hope it wont be too annoying. Shooting is supposed to be a finisher and consumes all bleed stacks.Joking aside I think it looks good. I always liked playing old JRPGs or tactics games where the characters would have little flourished moves. If it fits the characters personality even better
>>567257016>Hopefully ill make one male design that you like.You won't. femboys are gay I like coolboys and basedboys
If your male protagonisr doesn't look like this then you might as well make it a loli.
>>567257331>I like coolboys and basedboysanon I...
>>567232180Is this not a paradox or am I crazy?:>if you try to chase industry trends & calculate your way into success, your game will be uninspired, bland, awkward, soulless, not have anything people actually like & also will be harder to make and will fail>if you just make exactly what you wanna make, your game will have soul but it probably won't be what the public wants So are we basically just hoping we get super lucky, and the game we naturally want to make aligns with what would be popular?
>>567211410How'd you do the terrain noise step? Whenever I tried perlin noise it just didn't work how I wanted it to.>look at the githubWhy does it have so many scripts???? Most of my proc gen system is all in one script and under 5000 lines as long as you exclude the secondary script that is multi-purposed and receives info from said proc gen system.
>>567257867Design is the art of deciding between difficult tradeoffs. You need mix of both to find success. Just like like a good fun game that people want to play.
>>567257615kanna...
>>567258180I spent the past year brainstorming the perfect game that people want to play, but I can't work this way anymore.Constantly stopping to ask what's the best way to do something is exhausting, I just want to make a game
>>567258390Skill issue. Just like make game to expand your "games that you are capable of making" circle. You aren't ready to make a commercially viable video game.
>>567232383Shut up gogem. You have money to get gabe to change his stance? No? Then shut up, crying about it isn't going to change anything nor are you going to get multiple AAA, AA, and III devs to stop posting their games on Steam as protest. Marnix worked on a game, it released, it did well, therefore it was interesting and drew attention. You'd have better luck convincing the masses to use various storefronts to reduce steam's popularity. At least then dev's may reconsider steam which cuts into gabes profit margins and might actually get him to reduce the cut.
>>567258574Honestly true. I should just make the autistic wacky experimental game that I really want to make first and then sell out for commercial success afterwards. That's what all the pro game studios do
>>567256093Very nice animation. I remember seeing your higher res drawing of the girl. What kind of game are you making? My guess is a tactics RPG.>>567257016What's the difference between this gif and the last?
>>567258149That step starts an instance of `FastNoiseLite`, and set it's `noise_type` property to `FastNoiseLite.TYPE_PERLIN`. I iterate over each tile and get it's `Vector2i` and some noise with `FastNoiseLite.get_noise_2d. depending on the value of n it chooses to set that tile as something from an array I have loaded.if n < water < plains < forest < mountains>Why does it have so many scripts????My guess is the person who made it used Microsoft Studio, it likes to make every class a file and everything is a class in C#. C# is awful to work with, especially if it's old.My version is much simpler, tied to godot, and just uses like 2 classes and a 3rd one others inherit.
>>567256093I'm very into femboys and I love your design
>>567248683If I have to advertise my game like this, then I am just not gonna be happy about the way I'm viewed by my audience. >>567252952Kek
>>567257016>Male.dropped
It's laggy and janky, but multiplayer is working. Lots of optimization is going to be needed before this can support 8 players at once.
>>567256280I used to have a more aggressive idle, but then I accidently replaced it with another animation so I had to recreate a placeholder. IDK, in all honesty I'm most interested in making the player moveset feel more fluid and preciseRight now it's entirely functional, but it needs animations to be shuffled around and replaced and reworked. See, let me let you in on something:I feel the moveset doesn't fit the character. He's not a Dante type, he's more a Ryu type.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q6oWXg3ylwkNot this.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-tUgBtUuy0This. Not like it matters, I'm just rambling.
>>567258793>girloh no no no
>>567259585flashgame
>>567259737Yes
I have been thinking, anyone else?
>>567260285>Thinking...Yes! I think quite a bit is there anything else you would like to ask?
yeah
>>567257152Tried to do it, but it didnt look to great. Im using shaders and models for bigger vfx, especially when they are a single colour.>>567257205Thank you, and yes, he is supposed to be more of a showoff.>>567257331>>567259547Understandable, its not for everyone. Feel free to post more art about women to counterbalance it.>>567258793Yes, itll be a tactics game. But its still very much in the beginning and will take a long time. The difference between the two is that the second rotates the gun for one frame less in the rotation, because somebody mentioned it.>>567259117Im happy to hear that, thank you. Hopefully i wont disappoint you in the future with the other ones. :>>>567259585Reminds me of that one battleroyal io game. Although it seems to include a lot more npcs. What type of game will this be?
>>567257016Neat
>>567260717Thank you
That's it
>>567260560>Reminds me of that one battleroyal io game.That's 1/2 of the inspiration, and 100% of the artstyle I'm going for.>What type of game will this be?PvPvE Extraction, with generic fantasy setting.
arisu status?
>>567262207
>>567252787>>567252884Thanks, frens
>>567262578arisu...
Lord forgive me I'm back to sin again
>>567263668
>>567263668GMI character design
>>567263738Blobslop chads RISEI am just straight up ripping off Rain World but it's 3D so nobody will notice, surely
>>567263738Man.... Fez. Phil Fish was great people gave him way too much shit.
>>567263668How did you get it this clean?
>>567263831One of the first victims of twitter brain rot. He was the warning we all ignored
>>567263881I don't think it's very clean yet, but my process is always place spheres -> elastic grab / proportional edit until blobs looks good -> retopo.
>>567263831he was easily riled. someone should have told him to relax
>>567264214Well it's VERY good topology. Very economic
>>567263738Top row, 4th one, what is he? From what game?
>>567263831he purposely came to /v/ to pick fights.people didn't give him enough hostility honestly.
>>567264765Ori and the something something
>>567256093forcedcore animationslop
>>567263738>>567264765baba slugcat hollow knight oriidk idk fez idktop row are kinos bottom row are slop
>>567264393He was just your average Quebecer desu, they're just like that sometimes
>>567263831It's funny because he was actually right about the state of the Japanese game industry (at the time) but everyone was pissed he said that.
>>567264882Thanks>look it up>devs intentionally not stating gender>wiki filled with they/their/them-________________-
>>567264393in my opinion the tard probably thought no one would ever buy his games again and gave up on gamedev. completely ignoring that it was a vocal minority
>>567265172not really, he just had a tiny bubble inside his San Fran clique who refused to venture out.it's like retards on /v/ who insist there's no good indie games.
>>567264598Thanks anon
>>567266184what's it look like in game?
>claude can you check my code for the bonus xp thingy>'If you were expecting a coupon or unlock code somewhere in the file, it doesn't appear to be present'oh claude you silly!
>>567266364>gameAh erm gotta goI plan on trying to put a feathery mane down her neck/back as VFX in-engine but it might be beyond my capabilities
>>567265403Yeah, Fez is pretty beloved
>>567266664ah, i was gonna say she really needs an accent color, but don't do the overdone red scarf or cape.
I hate IK ankles.>Hey, let me twist it in the complete opposite direction in between keyframes
>>567266770take the signalis//blame pill
>>567266921Heh
>>567265619>there's no good indie games.this is true though
Is Praeterspace a good game name? lol
>>567256515Yes.
>>567267270I dont know what a prater is, is it like a praetorian? Names not doing it for me desu
>>567267527means "beyond". the game would be in a void similar to space but in another dimension
>>567267270if i saw a name like that... my guess would be a 4x space game
>>567252179I'm going to refactor most of his moveset into something more Ninja Gaiden than DMC.I think this is a good first step. Gonna replace the pause spin with this
>>567267768you're just doing that to lose the cool nickname
>>567267768i want to tell you to simplify your animations, but it also feels like I might be stifling possible kino, so keep going i guess
>>567268230No, it’s because I realized more precise NG style attacks fit the tone better.>>567268338It’s a very rough draft
I added a lock-on system and gap closers, still very wip/rough
>>567268501Neat
>>567268389And to be perfectly honest it took me two drafts before this because I couldn’t quite figure out the motion.And I probably would’ve been done way faster if I figured out how to get IK ankles to stop rotating the wrong way in between keyframes
>>567268501This control scheme and perspective has potential, looks like it might be more enjoyable than most ARPGs already, just get some real animations in there soon so you can make sure those can feel good
>>567268389nigga gaidensorry i got nothing. you won.
did jusha dev leave?
>>567269409I don’t really care about nicknames at this point.I just wanna make a good enough game that I can say “I did that.”
>>567232180proggyfirst time working with shadersI used some raylib's examples to make a pixel art shader with a small color palette
>>567270530I really like this. Very Obra Dinn
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8tg2iGG3ARQ>this is the competition
>>567271056K
>>567263668Is this fan made model of Ori?
>>567263831I always heard his partner(s) did most of the heavy lifting in regards to Fez.
>>567257867you fell for the indian spambot demoralisation who always talks about "games that people want to play" and other retarded unactionable advice.there's nothing hard about "what sells". it boils down to the question "what goes viral on tiktok/twitter/youtube/instagram". every single successful game you see today can lend its success to going viral somewhere on the internet (you might not even be aware of that, it's normal)and what exactly goes viral on those platforms? well, not even the world's most expensive marketing firm can tell you for certain, as the promotion algorithms there are deliberately obfuscated to avoid abuse by pajeets.but ther are a few general hallmarks for content that goes viral>something that illicits a strong emotion (hate/joy/dread/cringe)>alternatively it's something that has some kind of appeal (it's not limited to "sex sells", think of "aesthetic photos" or other stuff like that)>it's something that is posted with regular intervals>it's something that is easily digested by a significant mass of peoplecan you fit your game under any of those criteria? that's the question you need to be asking.
>>567272163he had a programmer that did the actual work, while phil mostly did the assets and creative directing
>>567271056That guy used to get crazy views with his formulaic videos.
>>567271056
>>567272701yep, the whole video is just a slop ad for a slop tool.I've seen similar ones where the people peddle their shitty SAAS "AI" app to college kids
progress: got food poisoning after having brunch with GF's family (her mom made Dal tadka and Parathas). I'm just going to lay down and listen to Orbital and fantasize about my game's success for tonight.
>>567267145>comes to the indie game dev thread every day to be a little faggot snob about videogames and hate everyone for doing what he can't do>doesn't even like indie videogames>doesn't even like or play videogames in general>will continue to come here everyday for another 10 years and make zero games everYou're everything wrong with this website. But there are many like you. You're nothing special.
>>567271056>a gun, reticle bloom, basic fps movement, 1 enemy that follows the player, and some buildings>a whole game
>>567272221>mumbles all this waffling garbage >seethes whenever someone shares actual marketing knowledge backed by facts with hard actionable itemsYou are the jeet.
>>567273953>doesn't even like or play videogames in generalThis is a growing subculture, incapable of enjoying the medium they just passively consume through cultural osmosis and critique it effects on culture.I miss when it was only histronic women that did this.
>>567271056>channel name is badgamedevYeah that checks out. >uses a template>generates a bust of a character as an enemyThis sort of bottom of the barrel slop is gonna start appearing on Steam bit by bit. Almost feels like the video is supposed to be an argument against AI usage in gamedev. It's such low effort that it isn't even making good use of the AI tools. They have retopo and low poly options now and you can animate shit too.
>>567272221>there's nothing hard about "what sells". it boils down to the question "what goes viral on tiktok/twitter/youtube/instagram".>the promotion algorithms there are deliberately obfuscated So it is hard. It's hard to know "what goes viral on tiktok/twitter/youtube/instagram" because it is literally obfuscated. You literally dismantled your own assertion in the same paragraph. See, you're a midwit who thinks somehow marketing is "demoralization" from indians in india or something because your emaciated inbred dysgenic malformed brain is traumatized from being outclassed in elementary school by some third worlder who was more brown than you or something and you come here and make these posts without the slightest clue what you're saying, except that you really really need to mention jeets multiple times in every breath you take. You are utterly worthless. Never post again. That would be great, but you can't stop. You get too much dopamine from coming here and acting like you know wtf you're talking about. You have never and will never make a videogame.
What even is a jeet?
>>567232180What skills would one need for a solo indie to create a videogame similar to insurgency?
>>567274446>>567274101like pottery
>>567274291Exactly. They sit and watch youtubers wax poetic and talk about videogames all day then come here to shit on indie game devs who are actually making and playing games. It's an entire demographic of useless people making nothing and not even properly consuming and benefiting the economy in any way. If their best friend made a videogame, they would pirate it and tell everyone online that it's bad out of pure jealousy. These are the subhumans who go to /v/ find what the cool new game to seethe about is. Somehow they end up in here, a gamedev thread and they never leave.
>>567274536A pajeet is a slur for indians who are from india. A handful of the most mentally ill nodevs here including googem get dopamine from calling everyone an indian or implying we all have brown skin for wanting to make videogames or for seeing through their nonsense. It's mental illness disguised as hipster 4chan tier racism. To them, if you want to make a videogame and maybe make money with it, you're no different than an indian in a call center, who are themselves still a higher class of person in society than they are which is why they seethe so much about it. Like gogem, who makes maybe $5,000 a year and still acts like he's the most successful dev here.Anyone who is on the internet calling people jeets deserves to be mocked >>567233462
>>567274650what i don't understand is why do these people keep rising in numbersif you don't like something why do you go out of your way to look for it, seethe about it, etc.?it's not like videogames are the only medium around. there's also literature, films, tv, music you can obsess about.
>>567272221It's unactionable to you because you focus on shit out of your control. If you were to focus on making a good game that people want to play then you might actually end up making a good game that people want to play and as such have something that illicits a strong emotion or has appeal that helps it make its way across in social media. It's hilarious that you think everything is an indian spambot. I took a peek in the archive and the last time I used that sort of sentence was a week ago but there's others using it as well.
>>567232383>now lmaoing on a lolcow is badlollmao
>>567273882her mom doesn't like you and tried to kill you
>>567274857They do the same for all those genres.In the modern day everything needs to be connected to a wider social context.A boring tv show with a gay protaganist failing is an epic win for the chud audience (think asmongold type people) and a white character being turned into a black character is a win for the classing sjw types.Never forget that neither side even consumes content, they just want things to fit their wider social context.
>>567275096anyway back to gamedev.
>>567274857It only appears that they are increasing. It's a filter effect where they get trapped here like lint or scum and never move on. But in general most of the population is still playing and enjoying games and the industry is continuing to grow, it will never stop. Everyone else is actually going out and living life or moves around to other websites or actually plays games and maybe forgets to come here everyday. The neverdevs here are schizophrenics who need to come here everyday and attack agdg for making games by trying to demoralize them or mock their endeavors. They're capable of doing this for years on end, every single day. They're not capable of personal growth or stopping themselves. It's the easiest dopamine in their life, because even playing videogames requires some amount of effort and concentration. Being an AI spammer, or someone who rants about gaben and steam and hates on indie games and gamedevs everyday requires zero effort.
>>567270530how did pixel art become so normalized? am i the only one who thinks it looks a million times better without the filter?
>>567275215i also think it's shit
>>567275215it's a cargo cult type mentality where people just mindlessly copy each other without any consideration as to why it was done a certain way.they know that the psx/n64 had "jaggies" because of its low resolution but for some reason came to associate it with "the indie aesthetic", same way how people's idea of 2d art is either tranime or pixel art.
>>567275215>calls low res 3d 'pixel art'
I hope people know my pixelated game is such because I'm cutting corners and covering texture sins, not because I am following a trend
>>567275830It really doesn't matter, gamers don't even think like that. Only faildevs talk about "chasing trends".
>>567275215It looks good to me both ways. In other words it doesn't matter. As for pixelart being normalized, it has been around since the beginning of videogames. It doesn't have to be normalized. That's some kind of social term for tabboos or progressive agendas. Pixelization is literally the most conservative art form in videogames, it's retro.
the machination of a gamers mind is an enigma
>>567258623I'm still amazed at how many years gogem has been coming here to cry about valve. I thought he was just being ornery a couple years ago but now I realize he's fully lost his mind from being kicked off steam 10 years ago. That's funny af
>>567275498>it's a cargo cultYou really need to stop with this mantra. It's incorrect. Wasteland Bites uses pixelized 3d art and it's a smash success right now. He didn't do it because he thought "this will make the game succeed". Nobody is doing that. You're just cynical and talking shit.
>>567276180is your artwork in fact sus?
>someone does a thing that works and is successful>anon: "that's a cargo cult"I physically shake my head everytime.
>>567265253That's so upsetting. A game you never knew about had woke people working on it. That's so upsetting for us huh anon. You will imagine from this post that I myself am woke, I am not. The culture war is mind control. Snap out of it.
>>567276194>10 yearsholy fuckAlso hes always calling everyone jeets but apparently is a literal scammer.
>>567277064yes, you now realize his whole charade about dev freedom is actually about him seething because he couldn't jew valve.
>>567276594No. I'm bad at drawing hands, that probably did me in
the samefagging in this thread is getting fucking out of hand, holy shit
inb4 googs mysteriously "shows up" (puts his name back on)
>>567277064
>>567277561gogem is not even in this thread and yet here you are seething and samefagging about him for no reason again. who fucking gives a shit about 10 year old drama anyway, you're as bad as the ai spammer or the steam schizo
>>567277561it's night time in Australia
>>567277064gogem more like jewjem
>>567277715okay "anon">>567277767Why would that matter? You think he has a life lmao
>>567277850imagine being so mindbroken by a single poster from this general that you think he's some kind of superhuman that can function without sleep
>>567277064is this a viable strategy now? steam has so much crap on it they might not even notice
Gogs, what's your thoghts on GOG?
It's 7:42 in Australia....
>>567275215>>567275498Crunchy jaggy soul activates my neurons. It's the most video game form of art/aesthetic everand I liked it before it became a trendI like high fidelity AAA games too but most indie games I think look better pixelized including my own. I try running it at a full HD res and it just doesn't hit the same
>>567275215I like pixel art. That is not pixel art.
>>567278287I accidentally turned off my pixelixation after a month and it was like I got a free hd remake. My art was better than I remembered under that mess. May give players an option to switch.
>>567277064>He is best known for developing titles such as Flop, Flop and Flop So funny. He has never made a good or successful game. To imply that he is best known for anything except getting kicked off Steam is a real stretch.
>>567277525Samefagging has always been the case whenever i come here, but after i woke up i saw that somebody said "thank you" >>567261285 to another anon who responded to me. I dont even know why you would do that ahaha, but at least it wasnt them insulting people from my pov as somebody did 1.5 years ago. At least it was positive. :>>>567270530Looks good. A bit noisy in certain parts imo. I like how it pixelates the roof. Will the game be from a fixed perspective? If so, will you paint everything with the same amount of detail? I wonder how the result would be if one used more broad strokes so that masses, lines and whatnot dont disappear. Im still working on the trees, especially the shape design and how to texture them correctly, but one thing i implemented is a outline pass that checks if nearby data is of the same object id or not. As i use HDR textures anyways i write the ids into the alpha pass. Id also like to be able to write that data into textures and model data, so that i can separate different chunks of leafs and the trunk. Im also playing around with passes that removes stranded pixels and shadows. I also make sure to always make the camera jump a full pixel and move the rest of the image slightly to make it look more smooth but consistent. Although if you prefer the slightly messier style i can understand. It has its own charm :>Catbox because im too lazy to convert: https://files.catbox.moe/mtf4qf.mp4 >>567268501For some reason the perspective and tiles makes me think of rotmg. But it looks more fun. Looking forward to how itll play.
It's 15:24 in India....
when you can't get your art to look good, one way to make it better is to reduce the fidelity so the brain knows not to compare it with how things look in real life
>>567278149Impossible for any human to use the internet at that hour.
>>567278787that explains all the seething about gogem and steam defence out of nowhere
>>567278497you're right, pixel art was the wrong phrase, i meant specifically with 3D filters etc.>>567278287personally i prefer the look of low resolution early pc games e.g. half life, KotOR, soul reaver.
>>567278720i know him for making v-tech rampage
>>567278753The rotmg game engine was the original inspiration actually, you're on point.
>>567279037>steam defenceWhere?That's not how you spell defense btw gogemjeet
>gogemjeet
Yesterday I had some Skyrim Ambience (8 hours) video playing and one of the comments said>wow I remember my dad playing this game when I was a kidand it half ruined my day. The other half was ruined by this physics bug that it took me 4 hours to fix.134 days left, I owe 1000 minutes to my game.
>>567279264>Where?Notice how there is no answer to this question. Crying about steam, accusing everyone of being shills. It's just a natural reflex for the gogemjeet. Years of this. Everyday.
>>567279404Your responses are not clever. You have never done a clever thing in your life but are trying so very hard. The definition of a midwit.
>>567279080No you don't. Nobody does. He is known for coming to 4chan to rant about valve everyday for the past 2 years. That's how the majority of people know about gogem right now. He was never famous, nobody knows or cares who he is, nobody remembers him for anything. He exists only in agdg where 200 people maybe at most see his name attached to offtopic rants.
>>567279889>>567279664>>567279580truely a pavlovian response
>>567277064ahem *taps sign*>>567274843>Anyone who is on the internet calling people jeets deserves to be mockedThis law is infallible. It's never wrong.
>>567278787We are not talking about India though gogemjeet.
it's working but it's buggyfinally i can commit and and take a break
>>567279945Again, trying so hard to have a clever response.That's not how you spell truly btw gogemjeet. If only you had a real education maybe you wouldn't be best known for trying to scam people.
Words to live by
wasted my life taking notes about my ruminations, ramblings, and wishing about things instead of putting any work since 2020.turning 25 in 2 days. no skillsno attitudeno projects to show for itno hobbies.
>>567281914>25lol lmao roflrelax zoomer
>>567281914hey kid, just wait until you're 35
>>567275215>am i the only one who thinks it looks a million times better without the filter?No. Only retarded "muh retro" faggot devs think the pixelated filter looks good. They're the same sort of retards who put in shaders that introduce PS1 rendering artifacts when that looks awful and shouldn't exist in a modern game. Always make your game look good in 1080p and above resolutions. The only exception to this is pixel perfect 2d pixel art games that are designed around a fixed resolution and even then that should neatly scale to 1080p so the pixels look right on most monitors.
>>567282372>They're the same sort of retards who put in shaders that introduce PS1 rendering artifacts when that looks awful and shouldn't exist in a modern game.for me it's when they add PBR materials on low-poly meshes whilst also running them through a pixelisation filtertruly some horrid looking shit
I'm going to try and steal xbox og ui for my game main menu screen. the xbox logo at the start is just an .mp4 I can replace.>>567277064he fucked with the whales, now his steam pages sleep with the fishes>>567281647to what? to success? a step closer to success, right?
>>567282372Wrong! Lowpoly games looks better at lower res
>>567277257>is actually about him seething because he couldn't jew valve.exactly he's mad because he thought he could outsmart the system and got btfo it absolutely mindbroke him
>>567282841There's some truly awful looking shit that's come out of these faggots. >>567283245You only think so because your art is awful and you think the low res filter hides it. It doesn't.
>>567283048>to what? to success? a step closer to success, right?The grave.
>>567277064>>567283348>exactly he's mad because he thought he could outsmart the system and got btfoHe wanted to scam gamers and brag about it here but nobody fell for it, they just emailed him as the scam said to and when he told them "send me paypal now" they just laughed and reported him. He refused to remove the "achievement" knowing it would force steam to ban him and since all of his games were flops this would give him a reason to get off steam and hide his failure without anyone here asking where his games went. He thought it would be a scandal where he looked like the cool edgy gamedev who stood up to steam and scammed the dumb gamer cattle.
>>567283843couldn't he put the achievement in his game and make it almost (but not quite) impossible to achieve and then sell a DLC that indirectly makes it much easier to achieve?
>>567283946Yes but he wanted to auction it, not sell it.
>>567281914>>567282165Ignore this. Don't relax. Get serious and turn your life around. Make and publish your first game, make it small, make it and publish it in a month. Don't even pay attention to whether it flops. Just do it.
>>567283946>couldn't he put the achievement in his game and make it almost (but not quite) impossible to achieveThat was the point. The achievement was "email me and give me paypal money and if you win the auction you will get this achievement". Nobody gave him the money though, they just reported him. He wanted to take peoples money for the fake "auction" and laugh about it here. That never happened and it just went straight to the endgame which was him forcing steam to remove his games. He was tired of being called a flopdev here where people could simply point at all his games having like 10 reviews.
>>567281914Same...
It's going well
Just wait until valve sues gogem for his "bank of steam" slander where he has been accusing steam of illegal money laundering for the past however many years. He's probably going to try and publish a book about his theory or something stupid making it easy for them. He can't help himself. He wants Daddy Gabe to fully destroy him. It's very psychological. Pathological.
>>567282841How awful, lmao. All those (I assume and hope) pixelized specular highlights on the edges of the gun make it look like an error in alpha aliasing.
>>567232180tfw all my personally enjoyable dev skills are in code. i don't like the art part, but i need it. i wish i had an art partner, an artner.
Is it possible for an indie dev to make a good game that lacks appeal?
>>567284890asset stores will be your best option
>>567285135do you mean literal appeal or appeal <==> mass-appeal
>>567282841Shame because Prodeus is pretty well designed.
>>567267768Ugh
>>567285369Lacks appeal = show it to people and they don't care about it, even though it's well made.
>>567283843>>567283348>>567284692jesus fucking christ shut the fuck up already you fucking cretin. stop samefagging your drama, nobody cares. gogem isn't even in the thread right now you fucking freak
IT'S NOT FUCKING FAIR
>>567284890What kind of game are you working on? I am an artfag who can't code
>>567281647One step closer to death, I hope
>>567285135Yes.
>>567285545then it could be technically competent but creatively mediocre.This happens a lot with type-A people who think of games as a series of systems or checklists, instead of a thing/world. So they implement well-made, but disjoint systems/ mechanics, and the game itself ends up offputting and difficult to articulate why
>>567285929name 56 000 games like this
Awwwww fuckkkkkkkkkkkkkI can’t get over it.
Why is it okay to use asset stores and tools like substance painter with existing textures and so on but not AI? Either way you did not create what you use.
>>567285545This is every indie game, what do you even mean by this? There is will always be people who aren't interested in any given game, even the million dollar hits.
>>567281914>>567284305>>567282360>>567284046most people aren't cut out for gamedevthere comes a time when you gotta start thinking about it realistically or else you risk becoming another cris or gogem
>>567286474my mom plays like 5-6 farming games on Facebook. I installed Stardew Valley on her computer and she played for like 10 minutes and said meh and never touched the game again
>>567286819Oh god that’s me isn’t it
>>567286471Because of the human element
>>567286936Why does it matter?
>>567286970I don't think at all
>>567285135>>567285545Is it possible? Yes.Is it probable? No. Less than 10% of games find any sort of success and of those it's a tiny fraction that sell poorly initially but grow their success over time through word of mouth. Basically you're trying to do something that's harder than finding regular success in gamedev.
>>567287072Because I'm involved in mankind
>>567285638turns out v3 faggot is a literal faggot
>>567240954>オジサン(´ε｀ )
>>567287286type boku in your windows search bar, it'll come up for you too
>>567287286>boku no pico>not natsuyasumi
>>567287286god i hate zoomers
I’m utterly depressed because I think I fucked everything up
In my game smoking is cool
>>567286471image/model generative AI is build off stolen work. for AI 3d models they ripped everything from sketchfab. nobody consented.
>>567288551It's just a bunch of pixels. A sequence of numbers.
>>567285135depends on what good means, is it really good if it lacks appeal? i made a game that i think is kinda like that, it's reasonably enjoyable to play and has good graphics, but completely lacks character, like it was spit out by a machine, i realized that after. Your game has to have some character
>>567288551quick, somebody make the "myth of consensual ai training" meme
>>567288628so are you
>>567288841no i am punjab
>>567287286I don't care for anime. That's just the search bar results for "Boku". Try it on your machine
>>567288551LLM training sets will never become sensitive to copyright law because it provides an economic advantage for any country that allows it.Like, imagine the USA just throttled all its AI models, but China gets to keep running theirs. China's AI sector would just stay superior for the rest of time since it never has to ask for permission.Copyright infringement is just intrinsic to the nature of a good LLM.
>>567288454In my game, not smoking is cool.
>>567289230sounds lame lmao
>>567289193war is profitable too. thats' why I support bombing the shit out of browns
>>567268338Honestly, I’d like to ask:Is this animation fucked up? Like does this fit into a game
>>567289428How much money are the wars making your country right now?
idea: a game called "Space Nomads". because it has no planets, only the void. and no its not space western aesthetics i hate that.
>>567289525>a [genre game]... but it has nothing!good idea
>>567289646I guess that's one way to reduce scope
>>567289490>>567267768Nta but imo from what ive seen from you you need to look out for 2 things. Especially in that animation. First you need to make sure that contact to the ground needs to stay at the same spot, especially if there is only one connection point and no force outside is applied. Its fine to slide across the floor if you block or something, but try to slide by yourself without any prior movement. You could do it if you push one leg onto the ground and slide with the other, but that would look differently.Second, your moments of impact, like the leg arc needs to be way quicker. Generally for actions its good practice to have a ease in and out and depending on impact do the action as quick as you can without it looking weird. Usually being too fast initially and then slowing the animation down is better than the opposite.
>>567290160https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gKEIE47vN9Y
>>567289490if you mean >>567267768then it's a bit goofy, for what i assume is a very serious game.Also you should separate the slash and the kick anyway, and just implement a way to blend them for combos.
>>567289518none. we are not at war
Make games, not war.
>>567287637>>567288874I think you might be retarded
>>567290264What is this supposed to signal? That sliding is good? He talks about a bug in the video. I didnt mean that sliding is always bad, and technical sliding when something isnt aligned with the movement of the animation is different than the inherent animation having a sliding issue.Also this is my third attempt at making this work, i hate giving his shots a one tile push backwards + that his weapon is resting on his shoulder. That was such a bad idea. Now i have to make sure that it somehow lands there at the end, and i dont want to resort to another spin. Im coping that copying the animation for each direction will be easier than to draft it from the ground up..
Make games about war, start wars about games.
>>567291374Ludo animation
