Glaive - EditionPrevious thread: >>567330443>Official site:warthunder.com/>Custom sights, skins, hangars, UI & sound mods, etc:live.warthunder.com/>Wiki with info on tech trees, weapon systems and game mechanics:wiki.warthunder.com/Main_Page>Old, better wiki (no longer updated but better layout):old-wiki.warthunder.com/Main_Page>Guides to Air and Ground battles + MEC:steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=742852313docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1hgHbWlSjefFhCqOUeGpoKQntdQDPG32X7XQo9EqDF00old-forum.warthunder.com/index.php?/topic/438251-strategic-tips-for-ground-battle-maps-36-maps-90-videos-as-of-28august2020>/// Top Tier jet gameplay FAQ ///>DO I HAVE TO WATCH ALL OF THEM?Yes.>BUT-Don't cry here then.>HOW DO I STOP DYING?https://youtu.be/DOGazUgUdsQhttps://youtu.be/xrNJZmA9aL8https://youtu.be/SUgf2kaQPdchttps://youtu.be/_gp77rkWXVshttps://youtu.be/NbKcAdLoWDkhttps://youtu.be/NYfNbDZw5J8>HOW DO I GET KILLS?https://youtu.be/Weghk_2DpfAhttps://youtu.be/_tQ6JzPWEFUhttps://youtu.be/85QqlxXMywUhttps://youtu.be/iaDMyKEW5Vc>HELP I TRIED ALL OF THE ABOVE AND IT DOESN'T WORKPost replay / clip with data with sensor view on to get feedback and tips.>BUT MUH ANONIMIT-Shut the fuck up and get good then.>Hi-tech "slavmonkey / chinkroach to white people" communicator (post any fanmail you get):translate.yandex.com/ocr>/// It’s fixed! №115 ///>More weapon selectors (everybody spams spacebar anyway).>Holding repair button ACTUALLY repairs you now.>Thermal cam fix for tanks & planes (only real fix).>Stat cards now with extra slop instead of actual useful info)))).https://youtu.be/1acWg-c5Buo?si=ddrKwBCXKel5Jz1v&t=13Reminder: Not bug just feature)))))).Thread theme: https://youtu.be/MKSd3WVZpRs?si=FwqhKNzoqD8tMCbQ
catch my vikhr...
>>567330443
>>567450952>fix this new retarded trannycord OP template anytimereal, sorry too tired
>>567450886
>>567451012Post it...
>>567450886Old OP was JG508 this new OP is more like WARTG only sh4rtroons and LowT(roons) dislike it.
What is the Wiesel of the skies?
>>567451191maybe later
>>567451060>chinese kills free gamemany such cases!
>>567451363They're all asleep, it's just us now...
So filip is avatarfagging as Ryan Gosling now?
>>567451337More like [warTG]
Who actually plays copestal on the regular?
>>567451337I also dislike it.
>Apparently the Russian Rank I event boats also lost their event statusBetween this and shit like the M8 losing their status it feels very arbitraryEven funnier when shit like the Ka-Chi is maintained when that is way more of a sealclubber
>>567452187iconic
>>567451685used to, got bored when it became a marne/arras slugmatch
>>567452187
how are you supposed to kill Pantsirs with a Eurofighter? if i peek just a little to see where they are there are already 5 missiles on me and i have to gtfo. it's so frustrating. Su-30 can just fly up and shit out Kh-38 from 15km, how the fuck is this fair
>>567452576ask corb
>>567451356the little rocket plane
>>567452576Erm your GPS guided glide bombs?
>>567451685>spawn, get shot to shit in 3 seconds flat or do the same to someone else>small map poolIt's boring shit and gets old long before you get near the top of researching a single nation, like the rest of the game desu
>>567452576Russia jets inferior please understand su34 no thermal pod yes )
>>567451337what is there to dislike i don't understand
>>567452576>Lob your mega meme ordinance from well beyond its range>???>Profit
>capture point>troglodyte teammates overextend and die>lose the point>have to capture the point again>troglodyte teammates overextend and die>lose the point >have to capture the point again
>>567452609his James strat only works sometimes if you happen to come across a drunk russian. i get shot down most of the time>>567452651yes and to spot them you have to peek and get a 3 second window to do so before you get shot down by imaginary mach 3 missiles
>>567452790they didn't think of it first so they dislike it naturally
>>567452863I wonder why he's asking for more power to cas...
using bongistani APDS is a form of psychological attack on my aryan consciousness by the vatnigger slave-mind.i will not let it break me, though it has come close several times
>>567452863nigga they literally added a function for you to not risk yourself by placing the marker on the map no matter where you are
>>567453051which canon? i'm guessing 20 pounder agony?
>Looking at the vehicles for the new Pages of History>Notice this with the GladiatorsAm I missing something here or is the premium one just straight up allowed to club lower BRs
>>567453051>shell shattered pidor))
>>567453173You go ahead and explain to Rajesh that it's not even a 40mm in diameter turd of carbide dejacketed by sheet metal. Good luck.
>>567453791>Bravo!>Well done!>Excellent!
Has corb blown his nose yet?
Corn on the Corb.
>>567452187giwtwm
>>567453173yeah, 20 pounderscent mk.10's 105mm has been significantly more reliable so far, but the platform is such a shitbox. like it's actually crazy how shit it is by every metric other than its okay guni hope the L11A5 on the chieftans is better, since i'm getting close to the mk.3, but i'm not holding my breath
>>567455093>top-tier>ever goodIt's always been a one-way shitflinging contest for whichever side has the newest toys.
>>5674550932024 wasn't even that long ago. why can't top tier be the way it was in 2015
>>567455169Chieftans are just ok with the APDS. The main upside is that they are better enough in meaningful ways that they will never truly be bad.
>3.3>full auto 37mm HVAP on a somewhat ratnigger platform>""""""SPAA"""""""prehistoric 2S38
>>567455380
>>567455525>zsu-37>somewhat ratniggerThat thing is slow ASS in every regard and was hard carried by the like, 110mm of pen it used to have. The real prehistoric 2S38 was the Ostwind when it was a 142mm(?) pen hvap machinegun.
>>567455525was it this one or the premium that could lolpen tigers frontally
Vehicle for this feel
>>567456669cv90120
>>567456669BMPT
SHERMANS ARE NOT FUN THIS TREE SUCKS USA TREE SUCKS ITS BORING AHHHHHHHHHH
Sirs how so i notch Aim-7s?
>>567456669What about CSGO players when QBZ?
>>567457630This post is extremely low quality.
>>567457675You need to be within10km or it is a coin toss
>>567457675>notch Aim-7'sYou notch the plane that launched them with SARH's, not the missile.
>>567457675>Turn around>Angle upward slightly>Afterburnwow....................................... skill.................................
>>567457675Aim7? Just pop some chaff. That shit's easy to dodge.
>literal copy paste???when did this happen
>>567457990Sorry I was frustrated and angry
>>567458463Does he know?
>>567459321one of these is operated by dutchmen who sound like theyve had their skulls bashed by a cavemanthe other is operated by dutchmen who sound like cavemen
>Literally carrying the entire team's right flank against full uptier jumbos and IS1's>Get first 6 kills, with 4 against the full uptiers>CAStard teammate bombs me and the entire team instantly fucking folds because I was the only reason we weren't getting ultra flanked
>>567459847>No replayNigger!
What would you do in this situation?
>>567460113This is the most you'll get, otherwise you might as well just add me so we can play together :)It was on elimination Ardennes. After I died, we basically got spawn camped.
>>567460349I would never play that heap of shit
>>567451356heh cunny
>>567460349You're in a F-5The damage model is still so busted to this day that you would only probably lose flaps or smth, just keep going
>>567460349Turn on your AN/APG-83 to jam the radar inside the AIM-9P's heat seeker!
>>567460414>Pretending like you did anything with 4 deathsYeah you just suck
>>567455169>i hope the L11A5 on the chieftains is betterit's "better" for getting 1 shot kills on shit chassis like the T-55 and M60 IMO but the uptiers you face are pretty brutal if you're not ready>constantly facing T-72's and not being able to easily kill them is such a fucking kick in the nuts >also most things with dart also gonna lolpen your turret face so even playing hulldowm is not a guarantee safe way to play>so combine being slow, bad armour for the tier, huge target for CAS, no LRF, no dart, bad reload speed, huge copula for SPAA to nuke you with... not a good timei wouldn't hold my breath with this thing 3bh. the olifant mk1, vickers mk3 and ZA-35 will serve you much better in the silly 8.7 line up and will do most of the heavy lifting>this is what i use if you give a shit
>>567453275>"I'll stop sealclubbing in AAB and go finish the last stretch with the Matilda">Immediately facefucked by a downtiered PanzerYeah I probably deserved that
>>567460829>this is what i use if you give a shitlet's try adding the photo this time shit website
>>567460791I did mention that after my first death we got spawn camped by the entire team (including yaks)Here's your last (You). I hope it was fun.
>>567461165>Be excessively bad>Shart your pants and cry
>>567461208Lots of silver medals there
>>567461208sherman III/IV into amerimutt teams who don't know how to fight their own tanks
>>567461208rafale
>>567461276Does this work better for you? :)
>>567461860Really cracked those missiles' fuzes.
>>567461873>Not even top scoring
>>567462863I think he deserves it after helping keep the skies clear, honestly.
>>567460984Horrific line up. Just play 8.3 at this point...
>>567461208what was it
>>567464465.gif with a nono-word in caption
is the sea vixen any good and worth oinking out for? looking to pick up a bonger 8.7 CAS for RGB because i've only got a stock venom atm
so who's gonna tell france air is not armour? these tanks fucking suck
the t1e1 is so much more fun than shermans
>fighting against missiles<fighting against players
>shit map>full uptier with stock tanks>worse map>team allergic to capture points>horrible single point version of otherwise decent mapI'm so tired
I miss my home town, but here in poland its so nice and peaceful, besides poles being a little backward
>>567466039>Be bad>Shart yourself and blame others
>>567466442bad bait because you didn't say the maps weren't shit, but good try :]
I don't respawn on the maps I don't like.
>>567466039there are like 50 maps in this game and like 5 of them are good. Also the 5 shittiest ones are on perma rotation for some reason. Flanders, Advance to the Rhine, Port, Attica and both versions of Normandy should be nuked from this game. Top tier needs more big maps.
>The radar screen allows mouse controlsJesus Christ I'm retarded.Why is this not mentioned anywhere
Attica rules
>>567468759I only found out about it because in a recent patch note they made it so you can click which missile you want to spectate
>>567468759its a relatively new addition and also the game next explains anything
>>567469383It's been there for 5 years
>>567468759>>567469383That was a thing for a while now.
>>567466039>>567466657there are people in here that still play objectives? that shit is for chumps/wtg/gers play for kills aka something actually useful
last few threads have been pretty kino ngl not sure if anyone else feels that waylike the threads are more usable when there's no forced chimpouts and we actually discuss the game isntead of complaining about each other idk how to explain it
>>567469971Pidorcord is no more so the thread is peaceful, this will not last
>>567469840capping is hands down the best way to grind the tech tree and spade shit
>>567469607>>567469647no its only been 8 months https://warthunder.com/en/news/9690-development-controlling-aircraft-radar-with-the-mouse-cursor-en
>>567470193no? kek wtf are you on retard ever since they made it so you get more score if you're the ONLY one capping and actually make WORSE the more you let your teammates help take a cap it was evident teamplay is a joke meant to filter the wheat from the chaffgetting 5 kills in 1 tank, the baseline for sapience, nets you more score than a single capand you can do that multiple times whereas caps are limited by how many you have can let the enemy take, THEN you have to retake them, AND you have to survive so your gains dont get fucked up because RP is tied to play (read:alive) time
devlogs when?
>>567470661>cant cap and get 5 killsshitter detected
>>567471767Never, the next update is only 1 boat premium total
is it me or does the M4A3E2 jumbo suck fucking ass? i can't pen shit in every weak spot i tried on a or a fucking tiger and i was like 0.2km away, what the fuck
>>567473580on a panther*
>>567473580>>567473694Complete skill issue
>>567473767why am i so fucking retarded man...
>>567472362it's THE coolest boat ever made so it's fine
>>567473831hopefully it's because you're new, the 75 Jumbo is one of the strongest tanks in game
did my favorite AA, the ADATS, ever get buffed?
>>567473970im not new im just retarded which makes it worst, i went to the protection analysis, i think its because im using the wrong ammo
>>567474348Don't tell me ur using APCR or the stock solid shell
>>567474464i forgot to switch off the stock shell
How is the WW2 Russian line?I know they get great volumetrics when fighting against them, but how do they play when you're personally using them?
>>567474806Boy.On another note, When AMOSsy will get added?
what vehicles if i want to farm izzat
>>567476154Rafale
>>567476154Su30
Why is the Maus so unenjoyable compared to any other super heavy?
>>567477942Take a good look at it and the answer might just come to you naturally
did a bunch of gameplanning in the X-ray view with test shots and watching videos on tactics to try and figure out where im going wrong with the abramswith a little luck itll pay off, one thing i didnt even realize was going into battle with way too much ammo is a sure way to get instakilled and i was going in max ammo every time
>>567478231Boyyyyyyyy, Take like 20 APFSDS rounds, and like 6 or 7(lol!) HEAT rounds, and make sure they're the HEAT MP, I think they're better than the Regular HEAT-FS, I'm not so sure but just take enough Ammo that stays in the back of your turret
>>567477340>Su30>Mig29>S400How did shitty bugmenware beat superior Russian technology?
>>567478052Seems perfectly fine on paper
Where are they going to unrape the Mig-29s fm?
Man the VBCI-2 is just so fucking good I jsut wish it had the Dragoon proxy ammo
>>567452609will do
>>567478758wait for the Mig-29M
>>567478442I really wish there was just a sim battle mode where you can test shit without having to go into battles and learn it trial by fire style
>minelayers are all incredibly sexy looking ships and boats>to a hull utterly useless because matches don't last long enough to get to where the mines need to be laid, let alone for the enemy to run into themawesome
>>567479675you do know that the only naval mode is enduring confrontration on weekends, idk why it isn't a 24/7 thing still
>>567479675If matches lasted long enough gaijin would probably make mines despawn after 5mins
>>567478598there's a reason why Serbia has chosen Chinese weaponry over buying more from russia, it's simply better, as proven on the battlefield
I think it's been over a decade since i've last seen this fucking thing.
>>567480716Grass?
>>567480747The old artilley fire mode.
What you see at the butt of the ship is the max amount of mines possible to take, there's no way to fill the rest of it upwhy, I say why, did they decide to make the mine magazines, rails, and a couple of random walls into visible modules?
>spawn AMX-30 DCA>Forgot they removed the "good Belt">it swaped to full HE beltsyup.
So fucking tired of attica, sadly i cant ban 20 maps
was hyped to get the Surbaisse until I got it and realized it has less armour than the Somua
>>567482206it still fucks though, alternatively, you can wast upward of 2000 dollars on the Surblindé if you want.
>>567482340can't even go hulldown without some soviet railgun gaping your turret
This is the best i'm making it, if ya don't like it make your own niggers
who is niggerit?
>>567482895niggerit is a p*lish twink namefag (emphasis on fag) best known for spamming his unremarkable ka-50 clips
The Nuclear even had stuff like the M270 MLRS, would these types of vehicles get added eventually? would they ever even implement some sort of manual artillery mechanic?
>>567483082No?
>>567482664>tfw made it>tfw no face
>>567482664>>567361216>actually deliverednice
>>567482664>made the screencap
>>567483146Why not? I mean we already have other MLRSs, I guess they can forfeit the arty thing and just have people drive around with M270s/ Buratinos and what not
>>567482664thx for including me king
>>567483314and do you know how popular the mlrs vehicles are?
>>567483432More popular than the HESH slinging vehciles.
Stop talking about corb.
>>567482664mudsucker cope
>>567482664babe wake up new /wtg/ comic dropped
yeah the pick and pop type strategy is way more effective im actually making it to the end of matches now
>>567482664fuckin' nice>>567483493>>567483626catch!
>>567483468incorrect and you know it
I still don't understand what the point of the "Useful Actions" Sim reward system is when Nuclear Thunder was basically the same mode as Sim but with more stuff to do and was just fine with a normal reward system.
>>567484797Because in sim you can create lobbies or join whichever lobby you want on the opposite teams and rig the rewards.
>>567480992It could carry 600 irl.>津軽 (Tsugaru)>機雷 (Mine)They either gimped it because it would be too OP or the engine can't handle that many mines at once.
Catch my 95YA6-2M
i may have judged this guy too harshly
>>567484797To make the grind in sim as boring as possible so players get funneled into air RB. Sim rewards are retarded and bombing with fighter aircraft is worth more in the "useful actions" system then bombing with an actual bomber despite the higher ordinance count.
>>567485971>bombing with fighter aircraft is worth more in the "useful actions" system then bombing with an actual bomberThe reward multiplier gives equivalent rewards for bombing bases with equivalent loads. If you bring more bombs, your reward multiplier gets smaller but the total reward is still gets bigger.
still have a really fucking hard time with realistic air battles
>>567491482don't get in fights you can't winonly attack people who don't notice you or can't physically get guns on you before you run awaythis means flying away in a straight line 99% of the timethis is how real pilots who survived fought
>>567491602ive noticed a lot of the tactics in this game essentially boil down to >make yourself as unnoticed as possible and dont run into a fight because you will die instantly its hard to unlearn the basic FPS mentality
>>567491602Also never ever climb straight into the enemy team (unless you're an Su-7B or a Lightning F.6 in a full downtier or something similarly extreme). Sideclimb for a while, then turn 180 degrees to put your friendlies between yourself and the enemies. Friendlies collapse and all die within 30 seconds? RTB and leave, there's nobody nearby to threaten you. Friendlies didn't collapse? Pick your fights and follow the guidelines you mentioned. That's the real secret to 5.0+ K/D.
>>567492008I find it enjoyable and rewarding but there's a lot of very glaring issues that make the level of realism snore blunder has both too high and too lowof course every issue has a simple fix that gaijin refuses to do because they both hate the playerbase and have data saying happy players don't spend as much as unhappy ones
>>567492008That's just how it goes when there are no respawns. Even the reward system mirrors it - you get most of your SL and RP through staying alive, so the game is practically screaming "it's better to be a coward and live to fight another day than to die a quick glorious death". Sim and, soon, Nuclear Thunder fix that with infinite respawns, you can afford to be a lot more ballsy there.
how come only swegroids get to enjoy killing people in tankseven the finns are stoic and don't do a single kaksoispiste de de de de after annihilating an entire villiage worth of soviet tankers
>>567492331>>567492113honestly my biggest complaint is that theres no single player campaign to ease you into things and that in realistic air battles specifically at least with props like 99 percent of the match is spent either getting to or leaving the fight ground battles is pretty immediate even on the big maps but i swear its 5 minutes of flying for every 5 seconds of combat
>>567492492there's a reason everyone said to uninstall the game when you first came here
>>567492359i like the system it has to be honest, where if you do well you get respawns but if you get annihilated immediately youre quickly out of the game im getting better at it but i still do it especially with fast vehicles where im just flying into combat on accident when i wasnt even really looking for it, i just unlocked the hellcat and its fun to drive around but i keep getting instakilled with it because its so fast youre in the fight really fast
>>567492113>Friendlies collapse and all die within 30 seconds? RTB and leave, there's nobody nearby to threaten you.It's insane to me that people enjoy making this game mode with already completely fucked pacing even slower just to groom their e-penis. I will always aim to just trade and get back to the hanger in 30 seconds instead of doing fucking nothing for 10 minutes after just doing nothing for 10 minutes prior. Chasing stats as an end in itself is profoundly joyless behavior, and doing this will severely extend your grind too, so it just seems pathological to me. Maybe I could understand if ARB were paced more like the nuclear event at least instead of the fur ball smash together and the winners chase the one survivor until time out we have now
>>567459321next tank event is also copy paste in the same three>Dutch F-16A, T-72 Arena, this whole Battle PassThey're doing it a lot lately
ive been raped by an r27 or r77 1 too many times now what are the most OP jets
>t-34 front plate somehow bounces my panther when it should go through like butter>su-76 just disintegrates a shell for no damage that should one tap him >t-34 lightly glancing the side of my cupola somehow turns he shell inside the turret and kills me
>>567494642>bro plays the best medium tank in his br>still complains
>>567494876doesn't matter how good it is if anton decides I had enough kills
>>567495012you have the magic mantlet. you don't get to complain.
who's excited for today's french naval blog?
>naval>french naval
>Helicopters>Entire gameplay loop consists of hoping the enemy team is blind, deaf, and retarded>Rocket runs usually end in failure the second any autocannon vehicle looks at you. Successful hits have a high chance of ))))>AGM runs dud out the second an AA gun looks at you>Radar AA gets to track you through terrain so you can't even effectively hide>This is all assuming a plane doesn't just dab on you anyway>Somehow more abandoned as a piece of content than Naval is on top of thatI have a hard time being convinced it's worth spawning helis anymore desu. Both playing as them and playing against them more often than not they're just RP pinatas >>567495012It's more obvious in planes when you get to watch your rounds go from snapping bombers in half to bouncing off of biplanes between matches
>>567496868yeah, I had the d-13 score like a dozen hits on a russian strike craftand I know I am not shit, I play custom games sometimes and somehow it never happens there
pics with ammo belt or didn't happen
>Klimenkov's IS-2 took out two Tiger IIs.>Udalov's IS-2 took out three Tiger IIs.>Belyakov's IS-2 took out one Tiger II.>Oskin, supported by artillery, took out three Tiger IIs.>A raid by elements of the 53rd GTB captured four Tiger IIs.>the german command attributed these losses to "massive anti tank defense"
is the new event shitp at least premiumor are they being extra funny
>>567499064Premium but it's probably at a BR poised to be fucked by both suspiciously Destroyer shaped barges and Cold War time travelers so it isn't worth it
>gayval battle ends in 5 minutes despite being a big open ocean circle battle map because my team's bots turn around and sail out of it while the enemy teams sail into it, letting them cap itAwesome!
>>567500590every time
>>567491482Know your plane's strengths and when to fightPrioritize high risk targets (like shitfires)Run like a little bitch if you can if a better turnfighter tries to chase you and force you into a 1v1 dogfight, fighting ''honorably'' doesn't win you gamesDon't be a retarded nigger and dive at a enemy half your team is already chasingKnow when to break off even if it means giving up on a kill at the momentPositioningKnowing the little things is what makes your better at arb
>>567501254>Lower tier coastal gets fucked by French and German """barges""" with the firepower to maul a Destroyer>Higher tier gets fucked by German and Russian meme machines with insane firepower>Add in that American missile premium because fuck you
i guess this is where gaijin get their ideas for their paints jobs fromhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7t1JpwajCcQ
>>567491482Don't listen to these retards >>567491602 >>567501263ARB is a dogshit retarded mode where it makes more economic sense to just trade in the first head-on you see and slam into another match immediately. You just repeat this until the grind is over. This is how 95% of the playerbase plays it at every BR now.
>bongs used m22 more than americans>no bong m22Wouldnt even be 1 to 1 copy, it would be better
>>567502002It gets even funnier when you consider the amount of reaching the devs did to pad out Sweden's tree
>>567502002>RAF basically did the combat trials for half the USAAF's bomber inventory>heres the B29 you flew training missions with after the war, better late than never))
>>567502078Tiger for swigroids was so unnecessary, there is barely a lineup to go with itBut sure, add training targets and museum vehicles instead of shit that was actually used and numerous like this fingol stugWhere is the fuck is the finnish stug gayjew? Also the stug 4? Where the fuck is it?
>Israel captured some ZSU-57-2>threw it in a museum>Gaijin gives them it as a tech tree vehicle
>>567502627>Considered buying the Apache once>Tested the MI-28 once (the pilot was Russian)>This is enough for both of them to go to Sweden
>>567502746>think about buying mi-28a>add as swedish premium
>~4600 T-54A build in the USSR>non in game>~1500 T-54B build in the USSR>non in game>~20000 T-55 (non A) build in the USSR>non in game
>>567502839I think the worst still has to be the f16aj, but it's a tough competition
>>567503342Nah, both of the Ho-Ris are unbeatable.
>>567503169So? Why would you want bottom tier slop no one is going to play? You know what, the Russian tree needs 20 T-54 variants, the existing 5 aren't enough
>>567503678those are just some of the most common tanks they built. all of them have a stab for example and/or better firepower and engines. they all got completely skipped. the ones currently in game are the ones that aren't representative and copy paste. the ones i listed are the actually good ones that should have been added instead.
>>567503678>>567503989like they skipped like 26k worth of tanks that have stabilizers and instead featured 10k of the early models which got either upgraded and/or sold to other nations instead.
>>567496868Only fnf helis are worth spawning and only in maps with a big hill you can peek out from