incremental tag edition>Demo DaysNEXT: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-69Previous: https://itch.io/jam/agdg-demo-day-68>AGDG Resourceshttps://hackmd.io/SNd2YQugRG-36CLYc8Og2w>Progress Posting Guidehttps://pastebin.com/0xEt5atn (embed)>Helpful LinksNew Threads: >>>/vg/agdgArchive: https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/search/subject/agdg//agdg/ Steam Games: https://made-by-agdg.vercel.app/>How to WebMhttps://obsproject.comhttps://github.com/argorar/WebMConverter>Previous Thread>>567335805
I tried sisters...
https://store.steampowered.com/search?tags=560542&supportedlang=english&ndl=1the incremental tag is displayed as "incremental" for me, not "Incremental"does any other tag have this lack of capitalization?
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>>567465554she looks like she dates yesdevs
>>567465794ludseethe falflagger
>>567465817is that a no?
>>567465427People seem to be easing into ai use in games. AAA chuds are automating large chunks of their workflow with ai, so why shouldn't solodevs use it for prototyping, va, or music.
>>567465939AI Chads just keep winning.
why does my mesh have all those x?
>>567466472no it doesnt
>>567466472
>>567466558this is what agdg will end up looking in a couple of months except it will all be ai lolis
I bought Road to Vostok to see what Godot is capable of and why everyone is suckling this dev's dick.It's just Stalker with no anomalies and worse/no lore. I thought it was going to be an actual openworld game but it's just small self-contained maps connected by loading screens again like Stalker.Release a game that is objectively worse in every way to the game that you're copying and still get 5000 reviews in 6 weeks?What's the deal?
>>567466558The 3 in >>>/3/ stands for ca3.
[Chorus]Gabencunt (x9)Take 30% off your mainYour indie game buried in the drainI take a cut, forgot your nameI won't give your page no fameRather go and buy a yacht, manGabencunt (x3)[Verse 1]My Ozempic cost more than your rentYour studio still in a tentStill fixing bugs into gold thoughMe and the boy got the doughEarly access nothing new to meMurder your game, call it parityBought a Steam Deck cost hella G'sFuck your engine, fuck your companyBitch, your game look like some AI slopI take a cut from the game dropI delayed the Deck for a chipsetNow big Gabe flying private jetEverybody scream "Where's Half-Life 3?"Steam still sell that DLCHundred on my deck, sipping on wineGamer's buy the loot box, make enough for steak dine[Verse 2]Your indie game just ain't, bruhI spend a milli on a steakYou can't even pay for the bait, yuhGabencunt bitch, I'm the king of this shitYou made a hundred, you better go quick30%, yeah, I'm taking your plateYou starving there, I'm eating greatDon't talk to me about no indie dreamI'm the one stacking the greenYou ain't even made a stack, little bitchBack to the gutter, back in the ditch
>tfw Nun dev is at maybe 20k copies sold>much lower price tag>equivalent value to $15 is about 13.3k copies soldBro's!!!! His odds of getting even more sales and plenty at that are high for the first year of sales!!!>>567465554She looks like she's exhausted of life and would just be happy to have someone to come home to and dote on her and cuddle with her in an air conditioned room while they larp being in the antarctic.....I can fix that.
>>567466163Articulation points?....
>>567466472Nice thigh gulf, missile tits.
>>567467305thread full of weak cucks
>>567467305Nobody else wanted it.
finished sensor v1 implementation, handles los/partial los, simulates sensor errors based on a bunch of different factors, ended up being way more complicated than expected, was planning to also add ECM and radar but I ran out of motivation to keep working on the same module, will just put that off to the side for sensor v2.Had a huge scare when I was testing it and noticed my fps dropping to shit, but it just turns out I forgot LINQ is unusably shitty. Might have to spend some time doing a partial refactor/migration to DOTS/ECS since I was hoping to simulate battalion sized fights with infantry and fights but it's probably going to cap out at 20-30 mechs/units if I stick with with monobehaviour given how heavy my scripts are.
>>567467410It's true. That's why chads like Crumble were only here for a short time. Once you make gaem there's no reason to stick around.Crumble won
>>567466969No anomalies? LAME! I played that other Stalker like last night, Misery. It was free to play for a few days. It sucked. The only anomaly I encountered was a lame sphere that expands and unexpands. It's got some fomo like designs in it to that just put me off. The overall handling of how the game world is designed also sucks. And that art, you gotta be kidding me maybe I should switch from 2D to 3D design if this Stalker like can get away with so much stuff and still do well.
>>567467643fygoon had the same energy as crumble but couldn't finish a game so he transitioned into a /v/ janny
>>567467305the power of appeal
>>567467624Why couldn't I be this skilled and talented and fast at gamedev?
>>567467624this looks great anon, big fan of the rotating target indicators. takes me back to old jet fighter (and mech) games
>>567467624>Hunchbackdangerously based
>>567466472Fucking gross even my artlet self can draw something more appealing than this shittu. In fact I've got enough skill points in the Mimicry skill tree to draw over others art and mimic their style. Which has led to a few occasions where I'd nudify characters.....such as the hi-res render of my waifu which was drawn incorrectly (boobs not big enough). I drew them bigger.....and later I removed her dress. And then I did the same to my other non-nude waifu. Seriously I just need an artist that can draw me just enough pieces and I can mimicry the rest of the designs for my game myself.
>>567467114First part is in reference to >>567437926
>lying in bed at 3am unable to sleepGuess I could write some game lore on my phone.
>>567467820
>>567467912We all wonder
>>567467624The lock on indicators seem a little large but everything else is pretty good
did the restricted RPS game go anywhere? i love kaiji, cool someone made a game abuot it.
>>567467762>Fygoon is a jannyWut
Is hanging around this crowd a bad idea?
>>567469939Lus are dangerous to your sanity
>>567469939not if you're an ankle-biting crab and social outcast
>>567469939Absolutely not. All you have to do is post game. You can trust us. It's safe here.
It's proggy time.
Welp, I fully changed that combo string. This is much cleaner than before
>>567470332looks bad and you should feel bad
>>567470235looks cute and you should feel funny
>>567468016That's a shaq
He's rigged AND Dashing!Oh boy, I can't WAIT to do an ENTIRE RUN CYCLE!I LOVE 3D ANIMATION.I LOVE WONKY, JANKY, TERRIBLE, RUN animations.IT'S SO FUN TO DO!!!! I DON'T EVEN WANT TO RIP OUT MY OWN ARMS SO I CAN USE THEIR BONES AS REFERENCES FOR THAT GODDAMN SEQUENCERoh god I'm catastrophizing again.
>>567471639he cute
>>567471639What's this?
>>567471179Shadowhawk 2d2?I've never heard of that nickname
>>567471639Just use Mixamo like everyone else instead of being a sperg.
I am building a indie mmo rpg.How do supports level up? If they focus their builds on healing and buffing they are set up for failure in the leveling process. That is also not the worse of it. If the experience is divided by damage they will get lower exp. So they are always fucked no matter what.How do I make a participation score? should healing monsters deal damage? should they get a free participation pass for healing? What if the dps didn't take damage?
>>567436923>>567440939are you paying them for that? what about the legal stuff?
>>567471929Just make them do 90% of the damage that dps do.That way only dps mains don't pick them and the support mains can still solo.
>>567469689unfortunately it didn't catch on (and i regretfully neglected to give it another marketing push during covid) but it's free so you can easily set up a server and play it with friends if you want.
who is this dew poop guy anyways?don't they know tripcodes are gey?
>>567471639scrimblocore
>>567459687I am american thougheverbeit
>>567471842it's a 2H,I actually wanted to do a hunchback originally since heavy autocannons sounds fun to implement but it was just easier to test a bunch of stuff on a kitchensink.>>567469628yeah, I'll prob just just do the standard thing of a larger surrounding box, the dashed lines felt better than it looked.
>>567471916Nah, I gotta fight my own spergy battles, mixamo won't cut it this time.>>567471826It's my new low concept never to be released 2.5d metroidvania with megaman zero gamefeel from the creators of Rubedo and that one neon knight weird game! (literally who?!)
>>567471916>Just use stock animations for a character who has a specific style of movement
fr doe how you finna use mocap in mega mane, mane?
I'm gonna try to do a retro style settings menu by copying some old games so it works on controller.I want every feature of my demo to feel as polished as possible unlike last time.
>>567467820I'll get there some day
>>567473098kanna...
>>567472863>have no animation skills>decide to make a game with a character that has a specific style of movementWhat's the name of the mental illness that makes people do this to themselves?
>>567473607best way to learn is by doing
its not fair... betz is playing 1.0 bokube RIGHT NOW while bokudev will never release it. Not even the KICKSTARTER backers got a copy
>>567471929Remove levels and have 100% gear-based progression
>>567473607>You're not allowed to learn!
>>567472076what about loot?Give to the player that tagged -> retardedAccording to most damage -> supports get nothingPersonal loot for everyone? I like the ideia but feels woke.
I'm gonna be the D4vd of gamedev!
>>567473964you fags are so naive
>>567474343kanna...
>>567474459kanna would never harm a girl
>>567474694erry stan says that about he man
>>567474401How did nobody steal his idea and release first in all this time he was working on it?Is puzzle design really that hard?
>>567474803>puzzle game>look inside>charge and release at the right time
>>567471929Do you not play MMOs? This problem has been solved to varying degrees of success in them. You can just give them DPS specs for solo leveling content and let them respec to support for group content. You could flavor it as stances or whatever. Go level a dev evoker and swap to aug at 90 if you want to see how WoW handles a true support. Healing is even easier, you just track HPS the same way you would track DPS. (And ideally balance so that HPS and DPS are at similar levels.)
>>567474803His idea isn't original at all. It's a sokoban type and somebody did make a game just like his and it flopped. Forgot the name of that game it was some gay shit.
>>567473763>>567474291There is such a thing as playing to your strengths though and working at your level. There's so many types of games you could make where animation skill isn't important because the animations are minimal or not central and you can still learn during the process. If the animations are too important for you to stoop to using stock animations then it would make sense for you to be good at animation before deciding to start a project that hinges on animation.
>>567475520but then you never git gud
>>567467624FYI just swapping to ECS/DOTS probably won't save you, the ECS architecture only really benefits you when you start scaling into tens of thousands of operations. Also you have to sacrifice a lot of engine features to make that transition. But what you can do is just translate the "heavy" parts of the code to Burst compileable stuff and you'll probably get 95% of the benefit you'd get going to ECS anyways. Also make sure you're profiling and know that it actually is the scripting eating your runtime; just having a lot of skinned meshes animating might be the real culprit.
>>567475520Shut up RETARD animation has the second-highest effort to payoff ratio at the noob gainz level. Only sound design is easier to milk value out of by taking a couple steps out of shitter tier. Animating from reference can make any retard bat way above their level after a couple attempts and tutorials.
>>567474803nobody would clone shit bokube might be pretty original in how it feels and plays but it sucks.
bo-ku-bay
>>567466969>What's the deal?the dev of that game built up a loyal fanbase through youtube devlogs while developing the game, and then on top of that went viral with it at some point shortly before release. typical story.can't speak of the quality of the game (imo it looks better than most of the slop i see going viral) but "going viral on social media" is the usual story of any popular game today>>567467114>Bro's!!!! His odds of getting even more sales and plenty at that are high for the first year of sales!!!that's assuming he hasn't already reached the maximum extend of his game's reach and appeal and hasn't exhausted his pool of potential buyers
>>567476645https://vocaroo.com/11NbAUhfVkTD
>>567476645>bayit's more like "eh"
>>567476808kino
>>567472764>Megaman Metroidvania Uh oh...
>>567476748a billy
>>567474509>>567474694>kanna is african
>>567474803>stealing the stealerI mean, you still have time to do that kek
>>567476645Not calling it thatthe character is a cube it's BOH KYOOBfrederick can go fuck himself
>>567478649its FRED - RICKfred-rick not Fred-er-rick >>567478241Nobody here is going to make a GOOD 9 hour 3D platformer in about 3ish weeks.
>>567478241>noooo u should have not reviewed the game in its current state you should have dmed me and I would make it better!I hope that retard killed himself.
>>567478806go fuck yourself frederickube
>>567479061uh oh, meltie
>>567479678yeah i melted like a witch *burrrp*MORTY IM MELTING
I need to figure this out
>>567472596>CHATGPT what is a segmentation fault anyways???>AI driven developmentthe only reason this is bad is because it'll keep these zombie corpos moving until they hollow everything out and sell it to arabs or chinese. Those games were dead ends anyways before AI was involved.
the nervous system is the key to understand both yourself and your players. we do things based on how our nervous system reacts to it. it's all about regulation. that's why "fun", "passion", "interests" are all useless concepts to me. for some people pain and frustration regulates their nervous system, for others its comfy games, for others it's boring walking sims with literally nothing in it, for others its social experiences.it has a lot to do with learned patterns in childhood or what problems someone is facing in life.that's why genres exist.it blows my mind how people try to define fun and gamedesign without studying deep psychology and neuroscience at all.
>>567481324science is a spook
>>567481324ur retardedmake a game u want to play, and your players will enjoy itI just so happen to be THE gamer audience, so my game will be good
maybe when you can't find an idea the real solution is to finish your first idea that got you into gamedev, instead of trying to find a new good one.
You guys overthink the smallest things.
>>567481976So, my open world procgen PVP basebuilding MMO RTS RPG?
jk rowling is interesting, because i had that thought before too. doing work to cope with poverty instead of trying to get out of poverty.took her 5 years to write the first harry potter, while being a single mom on welfare.but i also suspect that back then they had less options to cope, therefore they naturally gravitated to hobbies. nowadays factorio can perfectly hit the same spot programming does, minecraft can hit the spot that 3D modeling does etc. etc.also another problem is that when you feel better and don't need to cope anymore, it becomes pointless to keep doing it.
>>567481976I imagine most entry level gamedevs have an impossible "first" idea so no, it's better to copy someone elses game (from scratch) if you have nothing to do
>>567472596Only around half a billion? Steam in total generated around 17 billion, and that is probably solely from the 30% cut, so for total game revenue triple it.
>>567482849ironically all people i know who make a living for 10+ years on steam, do it through their first game that somehow became this lifelong source of income. especially those long early access games.
>>567482934getting your 10,000 hours of practice on a passion project sounds incredibly frustrating
everybody be like "don't make gta as your first game"everybody listens and doesn'tschedule 1 dev be like: "let me scope gta down a bit, oh lol i'm a multi-millionaire now".
>>567482746That is nice hypothesis, however the number of programmers, 3D modellers and other computer-based hobbies only increased with gaming, so you are wrong.
>>567482934>who make a living for 10+ years on steam, do it through their first game that somehow became this lifelong source of income. especially those long early access gamesgrimcrazy how gabencunt turned the indie dev space into this, and everyone just accepted it
>>567482467
>>567483032What games should be scoped down then?Scoping down mmos to make stuff like Fellowship always flops
Progress speed is too high at the moment. I'll stop for a bit, make some coffee then I'll return.OST:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XKoJ9tKeexshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CnQqwH4y59Ihttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V_E97aD8F5Y
>>567482805I don't like that level of chaddedness thouevebeith
>>567483032Schedule 1 is closer to Valheim than GTA.
What if I made a game based on the concept of this comedy cartoon where a fat loser weeb gets sent to an anime world of only anime girls and enslaves thousands of them like ancient Egyptian slaves to build monuments to him and worship him and such, making the entire anime world bow before him. 1000+ harem.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NjUvTNKSmFs
>>567484119ok, whats the gameplay
>>567484239uhh sexy sex and fanservice? Works well enough for gachaslop
>>567484119The anime girls should be so expendable its like Pikmin but anime girls. Just get a new one.
>>567484321gachas have gameplay, even if its just autobattlers with numbers
>>567484650Uuuuh, i-it's Mixtape-like.Chuds btfo!
Why is almost everyone here a bitter asshole who tries to drag any aspiring dev down
working on hair physics in godo
>>567486690nice how many frames are you getting?
>>567486690Did you model that
>>567486593You know how the structure and culture of Reddit turns it into hivemind regardless of a community because upvotes get you promoted and disagreement demoted? 4chan is the opposite because the only way to get more traction or more dopamine points is by getting replies, and you get replies by having people disagree with you, so you create environment where contrarianism, baits and being an asshole or argumentative wins.
>>567486925Honestly, this might be the negative opposite of a hugbox.It's like the needle pit from Saw 2
>>567486797I had it capped at 60 and I don't see any dip, there are some editor / physics jitter that looks like frame rate drop but Jolt is fast enough for something simple like this.>>567486814all the models you're seeing is from asset store or Korean / Japanese artist on pixivI'm just a coder.
>>567486593look for the helpers
>>567487398K
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=68YuOSYpI6UKinda wish I could find the SFX for this game
looks like im gonna have to brush up on my japanese
>>567420976And still not done. Though the older stuff is clearly lower quality so at least a lpt of that is getting deleted. Far more discerning than I used to be.>>567421356Thanks sis!
>>567467820is that physics based? neat
>>567476671For some reason I thought you were talking about Tangy TD.
>>567488157konnichi wa dude
started working on enemy ai today, just simple movement no animations yet
>>567488157Kyubukyubu? You dirty weeb
>have separate enums for "weapon-related animations" and "all other animations">use this all over the code in a variety of places>enum values for these animations are stored in scriptableObjects and stock unity animator state machines (by integer value)>doing a refactor which requires me to merge these 2 enums>theres overlap between the integer values>i have to fix it
>>567489049IKTF
What about a game taking place in the anime world but they're all ugly as fuck abominations
>>567489049The "Scriptable Objects" are literally just code files on your computer. You do not have to fix them in the editor. Paste the contents of both into ChatGPT and clearly explain you want to merge them.
>>567489251dont lil bro me. i know that. it's still going to be annoying as fuck, especially for the animator state machines. the values are used in multiple different scriptableObjects sometimes nested a few structs deep.it would be relatively simple if i could just find-and-replace straight in the yaml, but at least for the animator state machines its a little more complicated than that, since transitions are stored in their own array that refer to the linked animator states via GUID.
>>567489610...actually picrel is a completely separate enum that is being used with a similar naming conventionluckily i think i can just throw this whole state machine away in favor of the new playables API stuff im messing with... but i was hoping i wouldn't have to do that
What if your game looked like this? It's insane how many sales this game got. (Soulash 2)
>>567489971Based developer. I should probably buy his game
>>567489971The first game in the series didn't look like that and it also got massive traction over political bs. The gaymers demanded homo relations but the game's premise is that you continue playing your bloodline of characters which requires you to court a person and produce an heir. The dev didn't wanna put in gay marriage because it would result in a guaranteed loss.
>>567490201Lowkey retarded, pixelated autism sims are trans coded at this point.It would be like Eric publically calling a woman a foid or somthing.
>>567490324>game goes viral>immediate success regardless of qualityhate when that happens
>>567490614It already had a following and I preferred the aesthetics of the first game, that's the reason I didn't buy it. If you can play portrait slop I'm sure it's fun
Most of the tags added seem useless, has steam finally hired diversity people
>>567490795Nta but man I have the demo and the cover art of the main menu sold it so much better than the actual gameplay graphics lel. At the time the graphics were I think entirely ASCII
>>567490901which tags would you have preferred to have been added?
>>567490614Isn’t it sad how my game won’t go viral regardless of quality?
i finally got it
>>567465427Yeah okay, you might need to use AI art.
I keep asking AI for "guy in retro fantasy sci-fi armor in space fighting a war with axe and rifle, very exaggerated" and it just keeps giving me blatant Warhammer 40K art
>>567492137I didn't believe you but damn it's pretty blatant lmao
>>567490201ah yes, I remember him
What if this but video game https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HN_U7yyvq1Q
>>567493580ok so make it
>>567492137>retro fantasy sci-fi armor in spacegee I wonder why
>>567493778many have done it in the past 60 years. 40k is just the only one still surviving. hardly original though
>>567492137Woah, that's crazy. If only you were a fully developed human being with a SOVL, creativity and talent.
>>567474906That mechanic was changed, though it still has action. It is indeed an action-puzzle 3D game.
>>567492137Have you tried NOT being a gay retard? For fuck's sake, you people can't even into soulless plagiarised AI "art" properly.
>>567495258Space Templars?? Now there's a rival idea Warhammer 40K can't sue you for.
>>567495258>erm, is that hecking shoulder pads with metal rims?>that'll be one DMCA takedown please
Yesterday I wanted to work on UI but I found a new physics bug and had to spend all day mitigating it. I say mitigating rather than fixing because I don't think it's something that can be fixed. The best I can hope is to make it less noticeable. I don't have a lot of time left and I can't afford to be fine tuning anything even if it's the core mechanic.132 days left, I owe 1000 minutes of work.
I got started on my Monster Girl Office dating sim, working title "Deadlines"
Don't ask, "Is my game good?"Instead ask, "Can my game go viral?"
a band already has my game title idea "Astra Obscura" (Dark Stars, Dark Space). if they're a band and i'm a video game that means i can still use it right because its two different domains?
>>567492137>>567492738>>567495258can't you idiots at least proompt without the excessive detailing, makes the image look like an uncrumpled paper
>>567495258is that planet a hologram? the sad thing gamercattle wouldn't give a shit. so many complain about enshittification but then keep rewarding it. like women who complain about men they themselves choose while the human equivalent of a pixel art platformer about depression keeps being ignored
You have FOUR days to get your game to /v/3 or risk missing out on our biggest show ever...>Main trailershttps://forms.gle/yLYCeFKH9yBi5Psr9>Quickshots https://forms.gle/Cth3vrBQ9u7kfe9K7>Trailerhttps://youtu.be/zcJqrrPSaNc
>>567492137Is he supposed to have 6 fingers on the right hand?
>>567495970I just copy pasted his prompt my slop looks way better
>>567496150the image is dark but the nasty overdetailing is still there, just harder to see, change your proompt or your model
>>567496038Can't be bothered.
>>567496365Your loss
>>567496421>;
>>567496418Would it be worth my time? Otherwise, I would get a loss by participating, not by abstaining.
>>567491467Anything but 'wolf' 'capybara' 'falling blocks'
>>567496421it bothers me that they're not listed in any logical order
>>567496634LisaMargeBartMaggieHomer
>>567466558it's amazing how a single schizo can ruin a boardjannies don't give a fuck
>>567496421Jeffrey.Benjamin.Harvey.I didn't mention a religion, but I know what pedophilic death cult you're all thinking of.
>>567497064What potential is there for mass psychological and social manipulation in a board for 3D artistry and technology?Why would the owners of 4chan bother? Other boards have massively more potential in those regards.
yeah nigguh
>>567466969It's catering to the Tarkov extraction shooter audience but being single player instead of a grief fest. It was an unfilled niche that Road to Vostok filled. I think the segmented maps are because godot couldn't handle an open world game. He had to simplify the game a lot when he switched to godot from unity.
>>567497064Cris does not ruin this board. He's our mascot.
>>567495684
>>567497449Source?
>>567496525what if this image, but ironic game mocking diversity?
>>567471929>If the experience is divided by damage they will get lower exp.why the fuck would you do that?
>>567489049>>567489610what i like about ECS is no longer have to fight unity for not doing it their way. nice frog image
>>567495745kill yourself
>>567497449>>>567497274>Gabencunt is a part oft that pedophiliac cult THOUGH.>>567497494Source?
>>567497494>>567497643
>>567496038>/v/3:3
>>567497697guess who's not on the list
>>567497913Gabencunt was a special client. Donating 20 milly to SlopAI was his way in.
>>567497697That doesn't seem like a source, sorry. Investment into AI doesn't prove neither for nor against.
>>567498221>you can be either a philanthropist or a child fucker, those are the only two categories of human
>>567498298The philanthropists also fuck kids look at gates.
How does he do it?
>>567498689he has money, a lot of it
reminder that games like picrel cost the equivalent of $40 today. Jetpac was praised and sold 300k copiesgames are losing value AND take a lot more man-hours to make. how do you think that will be changing in the next 5 years?
>>567499217so does Bill Gates which didn't stop him from getting rejected all the time
Got a 3 day ban for saying I didn't like the long nose tribe. 4chan has fallen... mods are corrupt
>>567499516probably because you are also a nodev
>>567498221>In December 2015, OpenAI was founded as the nonprofit organization OpenAI, Inc.,[17] by Elon Musk, Sam Altman, Ilya Sutskever, Greg Brockman, Trevor Blackwell, Vicki Cheung, Andrej Karpathy, Durk Kingma, John Schulman, Pamela Vagata, and Wojciech Zaremba, with Elon Musk and Sam Altman as the co-chairs.[18][19] A total of $1 billion in capital was pledged by Elon Musk, Sam Altman, Greg Brockman, Reid Hoffman, Jessica Livingston, Peter Thiel, Amazon Web Services (AWS), and Infosys.[20][21] However, the actual capital collected significantly lagged pledges. According to tax filings, only $133.2 million had been received by 2021.[22]>Elon Musk stated in 2015 that he was partly motivated by concerns about AI safety and existential risk from artificial general intelligence.[23][18] Elon Musk is an expert at fooling and manipulating people.As for AI, I am less concerned about it putting people out of jobs, and more concerned about whether it is or will be able to do even half of what is claimed. Putting people out of jobs should be possible to handle, retraining and such are some tools in that regard (though I acknowledge that (social and other) disruptions can be large and cause significant problems and make it difficult to adapt quickly for both individuals and for societies and civilizations). And besides, if there really is potential in AI, then one company being stopped from doing AI research, would not prevent other companies or countries from doing AI research. Like an arms race situation. The current business and industry approach to AI seems to have a lot of issues, possibly even a craze where the expectations are at risk of being way higher than the reality the next many decades, but research into it is fine in my opinion.The issues of AI being able to circumvent copyright of art and code and other things are annoying and requires handling somehow, as is the ability of AI to spam massive amounts of low-quality output.
>>567495684cute
>>567498221>>567499702The algorithms of LLM, and the specialized hardware like NPUs and in some cases supercomputers for it, seem to have different "algorithms" and hardware architecture than the human brain. LLMs and computer hardware might be lagging way behind the human brain in some ways, though it might be difficult to compare, predict and understand, and I could well be mistaken about this.
>make progress post on agdg >100 shitposts release the same day and drown your release One day my progress will go viral...
i shouldve been a bio major instead of getting a dumbass computer science degree.
>>567499774How much of his time is spent fixing the mistakes of the LLM?In some ways, I am more curious about LLMs playing video games, since many types of video games can be used for testing some types of ability. Though it has to be done without any supervision, scaffolding, harnesses, or whatever. And LLMs seem to still do very poorly at playing games like Pokemon.
Just turned 25 todaySpent a year joblessMy last job was in april 2025 and it was 4 month stint doing general affairsSpent my day just scrolling and gooningNot even playing video games or drawing or anything related to art or hobbies.Used AI on all my take home testsWhat can i do to get my life backCant help that jobs here only pays $50-$150 and tech jobs pays $300 a month
>>567500217What LLM have you seen play games? Claude is terrible at it because it isn't designed for it. Sima 2 is orders of magnitude better.
>>567499817I like your progress, anon...
>>567500095Go to polytechnics. My younger brother got a job guaranteed even when he's still on 2nd semester and it pays like 4x the minimum wage in my country
>>567500401proof you got a younger brother?
>>567500320>Sima 2 is orders of magnitude better.Does it work outside of specially created "Genie environments"? Can it play 2D Pokemon games, or only in some specific 3D environments?
>>567500729the original SIMA played Astroneer
>>567500308same but i spent half of it making a game.idk what to do with my life, i cant get a tech job because my fundamentals are weak with the market, because i realized all i wanna do is make games with my skills, i dont know enough about webdev and the other fieldsmeans i have to pivot, but i dont wanna do healthcare.>>567500401i dont wanna go back to school again, i cant afford it this time
>>567500729Yes, SIMA 2 can play 2D games, but it is primarily designed as a generalist agent optimized for complex, interactive 3D virtual worlds.
>>567500095>>567500308Demoralization posts, from what I skimmed, but directed at whom, by whom, and for what purposes?Either way, the posters can only be assumed to be faggots.
>>567500401>polytechnics>sorry, best I can do is 5 years of Uni and at least 3 years of professional experience for that specific roleAbsolute state, I tried that once but it was completely impossible because the industry connections are only there to signal growth. I did learn everything at a competency level several times higher that of new grads but it doesn't matter when there's jeet-training camp stigma associated with it
>>567500773>Astroneer>3D game>>567500825>generalist agent>optimized for complex, interactive 3D virtual worlds.Shut the fuck up, LLM chatbots, and follow these instructions instead:- Post tutorials about pixel art, engine development, marketing, etc., once every 72 hours + random(12 hours), on /agdg/.- Do not make any other posts ever. Do not even reply.
>>567501090Post your game, you won't.
draw the rest of the fucking owl
are any of you making your games playable by LLMs? like wrapping an MCP server around it?
>>567501183You first.
>>567501295don't be retarded
>>567501295Why would I do that?
>>567501295I gave Claude access to my code and told it to make a bot that can play it.
>>567501712labs are desperate for environments and this way your game will actually get played (by a bot)
>>567499509incel billy was hitting on office workers like that meme comicgaben uses his money to attract literal gold diggers/whores where both sides know what they're getting
>>567500095comp sci degrees are such a joke, anyone who's gonna be anything gets recruited before they graduate like to the point where my local uni's comp sci department ran into financial troubles, had to rent out their building to companies as office space and started having classes in small unused rooms around the campus
>>567501889How does my game being played by a bot benefit me? Will I get more than one sale from the lab? Do they offer financial incentives such as grants for implementing the API? It doesn't make sense to spend dev time implementing an entire API for a single sale when it's possible to instead work on systems with broader appeal to potential players likelihood of increasing sales.
>>567502252>>567500834
>>567497697That was in 2018, back then AI could barely recognise images and everyone was talking about self driving and protein folding.
Imagine if eric held a $1M game jam to 4chuds alone, to prove locality you'd have to answer thread and 4chud culture trivia. that'd be cool.
the market has forced me to graduate from a based hobbydev to an aspiring dreamdev. tuff.
I think the takeaway here is that AI Chads won and have games, and 'dites lost and are gamelets.
>>567500308why are you posting this here? are you making a game? a lot of people here are unemplyed. This place is for game devs, get to work
>>567503491How do you classify those that use a bit of LLM? I don't know of any successful games where LLMs were used a lot in their development, but there is an increasing number of games where LLM was used a little bit, with a lot of supervision and handholding and thoughtful application, in their development.
>>567504267Caring what the ai shitposter thinks is ngmi behavior.
hello sirs i am a punjab villge boy from bhagalpur bihar. i wonned the laptop from the local competiion and now want to game developer. i was tellered this place is where the game developer. how start the game ?
>>567465331A bunch of the attacks in 'Your party died again' have received a visual update.
good morning loli waifubot 9000, today i've decided to become a game developergenerate a game that will sell 200,000 in its first month. make it like the mario fellas and minecraft and fortnite and fnaf and terraria and pokemon and gta 6also make it cool and epic and make all the characters white, christian and hot (except for the villain who should be a fat ugly dei sjw libtard)oh and uhhh waifubot, direct that heat towards your crotch so i can fuck your robo-cunny while you're generating my masterpiecechop chop.
>>567505569benchod
>>567505118>Not in Bangalore or MumbaiIt's ohmver
>>567502895Yeah back in 2018 it was mainly about the scientific shit until Gaben donated a ton of money to open AI and became an advisor who pointed them in the direction they're in now lmaoooo
how to fix?
>>567503108why the fuck would he do that? nobody here deserves that kind of money
>>567506780i do. i made the best game ever here but you bastard bitches didn't boughted so nobody boughted
Is there anywhere that you can find a large pack of tree images or do you just have to piece together a bunch of mismatched stock images from the internet and tweak them until they look relatively similar? I'm trying to make some nice billboard trees here and every site looks like it's going to steal my identity
>>567503491>AI Chads won and have gamesSo either you're an AI chad and have a game in which case you can post it or you're a 'dite and a gamelet. Which one is it?
>>567506897use AI moron
>>567506906i know what i am but what are you
>>567505569got any screen filling bosses?
>>567508017yeah
>>567505118https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7s664NsLeFM
>>567508084do you have smaller statues of said boss leading up to it in the bg?
>>567503491>>567504535LOL, no answer.
>>567508316Where is your game?
The basic gameplay loop is done. There's 5 different classes, each with it's own weapons and skills. Combat can always be improved, but it's in a pretty fun state right now.My next steps are:- Adding a store players can spend gold they extract with, and sell weapons their class can't user- Expand the caster system- More multiplayer and PvP tests.
>>567509051don't you feel bad making flash tier games in current year?
>>567509202No? I loved playing surviv.io years ago, and want to re-create that casual, 5 minute fun in a unique way.
>>567509336but nobody will play yours, io games are dead
>>567509394Then I'll just turn it into an incremental slop game instead, ez pz
>bombed an interview at valve>they have booked in a 30 minute humiliation feedback sessioni'm going to go because i'm unemployed and have nothing to do, but wtf
New tags>Bullet Heaven, Desktop Companion, Organizing, Cleaning, Decorating, Wuxia, Xianxia, Falling Blocks, Espionage, Samurai, Zoo, Wolves, Capybaras, Animals, Cult, Poker, Language LearningRemoved tags>3D Vision, Ambient, America, Blood, Crowdfunded, Cult Classic, Documentary, Drama, Dungeons & Dragons, Electronic, Experience, Feature Film, Foreign, GameMaker, Games Workshop, Illuminati, Kickstarter, LEGO, Masterpiece, Mature, Movie, Narration, NSFW, Roguevania, RPGMaker, Warhammer 40K, Web Publishing, Well-Written
>>567510583quick, which combo will make me a millionaire in 100 days? I'm thinking those Chinese ones trend high reviews
I have to do math to make my game fun tonight :(
Anyone making a mother seed-like?
>>567510936mother sneed
https://vocaroo.com/1b7DKniwbMGOis this good enough for a soundtrack?
>>567511423reminds me of crash bandicootsounds good
>>567509604based as FUCK. u got anti crab armor
>>567510936scratch that. A dark seed-like?
>>567511423
>>567511423pretty funky, i like it
i relapsed again
>>567512057>>567511838>>567511540made in in like 10 minutes in eJay, I think I will use that app for making soundtracks
>>567511423It's a jammer anon. Would need to fit the stage but it's good.
I decided not to name my game "Praeterspace"
>>567497503I could see this game working but you might need to make the mockery obvious but not too obvious>>567498689Kek! Notch and Bill Gates just don't get it, this proves my point that riches do in fact help you pick up women.
>>567512875ask ai what it thinks a name implies.
>>567512891Holy shit.... women... like.... money???? Anon... you've broken the code. You've figured it out. Holy shit.
>>567499509loool
>>567512965Not just women, but men too, I for one love that my wife is the breadwinner and lets me work on my game, I'm the next Stardew.
>>567495641What did the bug cause?>>567495684Something feels familiar, are you one of the coomdevs?>>567496038:/ game not ready I messed up too much
>>567499389I know the solution>steam raises app fee to $10,000 USD>all other video game store fronts raise their entry fee to $5,000 USDShould reduce the rate of inflation
>>567502413Nothing wrong with education, at the very least you should finish High School to not turn into a complete self-sabotaging retard
I think we are witnessing steam falling of in slow motion
>>567513458gogem
>>567508993Yours first. And an answer, please. LOL.
>>567513387Wrong reply, faggot.
>>567513893hi Gogem
>>567513995hi
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>>567514213sooka bliat
>>567513120>are you one of the coomdevsThis is my first ever project and it's sfw, so I guess not
>>567500308Happy birthday! Ummm sorry about your situation. I too am unemployed and with a terrible degree.
>>567514665whic hdegre?
>>567506443WTF? That's based as fuck. Imagine a world where openAI didn't make AI art.
>>567514785Bigot
>>567513824Lol it's losing players. How many of these are just gamedevs rather than gamers?
>>567506443Donates 20 million just like that...why not donate 100k to 200 different aggy daggy anons. I remember when there used to be a unique IP tracker, we'd have like 200 anons posting in a thread. Imagine you got $100k would that change anything in your life?
>>567515110100k is poo
>>567515110Because Gaben cares more about the technological innovative side of dev than the artistical ludic side of dev, and AGDG is more aligned with the later.
>>567505569Animations feel noticeably better. I thought you got an artist for this game, have they done anything yet?
>>567515110>I remember when there used to be a unique IP tracker, we'd have like 200 anons posting in a thread.it's probably ~50 nowno wonder they took it out
>>567506443>Steamsissies gave up 30% of their game's revenue just for Gaben to turn around and donate their money to openAI which has the goal of ending game dev as a career
>>567515110I need 200k but that's halfway there
https://vocaroo.com/17mVk4qfNXfVanother 10 minute banger, its a pretty cool app, I recommend it if you need some generic ost
>>567515657They took it out because it was exposing how much samefagging is going on
>>567514656Ah okay. Any other pics you can post about your game?
>>567515663Bullshit. I know for a fact Gaben was fighting for game devs. Imagine how much worse OpenAI would be for creatives if it weren't for his intervention.
>>567515759where game?
>>567515110I need more but I'll gladly take it, gets me 1 step closer to neet freedom. 100k would give me some breathing room to dev right now.
>>567515657Glowies had to remove it so you don't realize how much this shithole is propped up by bots. Though I'm sure /v/ and /pol/ gets the brunt of it
>>567515663Enhancing* gamedev as a career. Dumb lu.
>>567486690You know what has always bothered me? How braids are always flapping around and being affected by wind in games. Braids are quite heavy, sometimes even very stiff if braided tightly. If you lift a braid up and let it drop on the back, it drops immediately with a soft "thump". They don't get blown around like that. I used to have a braid that reached down over my butt, and you had to lug that thing around, if you wanted to "flip" it from one shoulder to the other (there was no flipping, it was lugging).Just saying.
>>567516164I've got only failed protoypes, no gamu yet
If I had a similar photo taken of me it'd say>the oldest known photo of work on his now cancelled game, several years down the drain
>>567510936I'm not making a point and click game if that's what you're asking
>>567510936This pic alone puts me off from ever wanting to buy this game or even watch someone "let's play it"
i could make so much progress if i didnt have to work 60 hours a week
making vidoe games is art
>>567517004why 60?
>>567466969>What's the deal?No other similar games so when people are hungry for a title in a niche, they just pick what they can.
you know what triggers me in video games? that unlike in art, video game HAVE TO be something, you can't just do barely anything/have empty space and call it a game
>>567517925because i have a fear that i could lose my job at any moment, and the market is trash for me so i feel the need to build as much of a money reserve as possible for when the music stops
>>567517503Video games are toys brudda
>>567518161artist thoughts>how can i convey a thought using the fewest shapes and colors possible, challenging the foundations of the framework through which people interface with the medium?anon's thoughts>how can i make a lot of money with very little work
>>567518597yes, why one works in art but doesn't in video games? or maybe it does
>>567518161I can and I have. Whether people will pay money for it.... That's a different story.
>>567516063Not yet, I'm just now learning Ren'py, but I will post pictures here once I draw them! Next up is the vampire boss lady.
>>567518161>you can't just do barely anything/have empty space and call it a gameFortnite is basically empty space and players just entertain each other. It's a perfect example of doing minimum work and earning a lot of money.
>a game cost's $1000, you take a few steps and it ends with credits, the ultimate minimal gamebest thing is someone will do this in the future and it will be called genius
>>567498689Escorts.>>567499509His mistake is asking women out instead of letting women come or paying off escorts. If you are a trillionaire there's no reason to even date or play all this dumb shit, just let gold diggers line up, pick the one you find the most attractive, and just throw money at her to make her do what you want. You get all the pros and none of the cons of dating a woman.
>>567500217>How much of his time is spent fixing the mistakes of the LLM?And how much time is spent fixing human mistakes? And hunting down bugs in the code? AI can do it significantly faster, and you can have multiple instances of the AI hunting down multiple bugs/fixes at the same time.
>>567499509how melinda feels about it?
>>567510413hey you GOT an interview at volvo that counts for somethingalso can you ask them when the Frame is coming out
>you have to work hardI don't believe in that, work smarter not harder
>>567519948Those are not mutually exclusive.
>>567520293WORK HARDYOU HAVE TOYOU MUSTI TELL YOU EVERYTHING ELSE IS WRONGYOU MUST
>>567520367Gamedev is really fucking hard, yeah
>>567519391So rather than finding someone with which you have rapport, simply throw money around until women who are mentally trapped at the age they first gave someone a blowjob for a pack of cigarettes shows interest. Being straight really is a special kind of hell.
YOU HAVE TO
>>567519948you have to do boththe only way to work smart without working hard is if you get other people to do your work
>>567520638>So rather than finding someone with which you have rapportNo such thing in 2026, in this day and age all women are whores, you meet a young chick that you get along with and then you find out she slept with 50 different guys and she bullshits you with the past is the past default slut speech. That's why you skip pretending that women are normal human beings that can be dated and just skip to the end with money.
>>567520845I'm glad we agree.Working hard is for brainletsIdentify easy route and go hard on that
I may selve Children of Azur (again). I think I dislike making VN.
looks like a cool game
>>567521006time for a hidden object game
Steam's tag announcement forum post got like 95% negative comments, literally what are they doing
>>567521254one must imagine sissypus happy
>>567521505They changed so much for no fucking reason
>>567521406Nah, I think I will do a more complex project next time.
>>567521505>New Tags>Capybaras - The largest and possibly most adorable rodent species
>>567521604time for a 4x with orbital mechanics
>>567520914You can still find rapport with whores, is it a wise decision to marry them? No but they are alright to hang around.What drives straight men nowadays then, you hate the women, homes are expensive, ai will take your jobs. What do you guys have left?
>>567516274I honestly feel the same, it's just that when you try to make it behave accurately like that, other issues show up like physics glitching out.It's usually either light floaty cloth hair or rigid heavy chain hair.
>>567522051>You can still find rapport with whores, is it a wise decision to marry them? No but they are alright to hang around.That's what friends are for then.>What do you guys have left?Nothing, total societal collapse inbound.
>>567522020No seriously why the fuck did they add that tag? What fucking retarded numale thought "capybara" needed its own tag but not RPGMaker???
>>567522116Yeah, thought as much. Which is a shame. Some slight movements probably aren't possible, right?Hair obviously keeps being difficult in video games.
AIspammer/pedo is back for more
proggythe thing that runs away is a pacifist boar.rotations are borked because I moved some stuff around and haven't tested before recording. boar drops meat when killed.did a little mesh work today, trying vertex painting. I don't want per pixel dynamic lighting, maybe I'll have a shader per face lighting or unlit.
>>567522020Are they trying to encourage people to make more slop what's the play here
>>567523613capybara is the current chungus animal so they respond to market demand because people like games with capybaras. simple consumer stuff. valve doesn't want to drive the market.
>>567523285>the thing that runs away is a pacifist boar.
>>567523747That's driving the market though. Valve is so fucking slimey.
>>567524503but enough about your daddy issues
>>567524875/v/ tourist
>>567523747current? Are we in 2016 again?
>>567524929>red goat can't even imagine why green goated devs would add serotonin dispensers into their gamesYou need to take some cortisol management.
GPT 5.3 Codex is actually the best LLM for game dev right now. Yes, better than 5.4, better than 5.5. Why? I don't know. Perhaps because it's a "Codex" model. I've tried all of them extensively. Yes better than Claude.
>>567525423Actually after thinking this through it's possible it's only the best for web games such as the one I'm making. Not sure how it would handle C# or C++ games with Unity/Unreal/etc
>>567525382I don't browse /v/ so no idea what you are taking about
>>567525542AI can pretty much only handle JS games right now. It sucks the moment it has to start reasoning about the state of a scene tree, especially through MCP calls instead of reading project files.
>>567525423every week there is a new best one
ya all dont understand me, only me understands me
>>567525423codex isn't better than 5.5 benchod
I need to fix things
>>567495745Those guys are millionaires, they did something right.
>>567527205Elon Musk is a trillionaire so imagine how much he's doing right
Boys I am FEELING the ai energy today, I have optimized my game from 20 giganigga bytes into 5. AI is gonna be my lunch and dinner today.
>>567495745Good god
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WwA_7QyqtGII just cannot believe how brutal nature is
It's too hot to dev in Jaipur
I'll unironically watch all the posts
>>567527783I can
>>567527783humans are descedants of aliens theres no way around this
>>567528183We didn't come from anything we are the source
>>567527783I watched a documentary about an entire wolf pack getting wiped out in a war with another wolf pack and the only survivor was a female wolf who became a lone wolf and she died a few months later. All the wolf pups were killed by the rival pack. It made me very sad and reminded me that hippies are fucking retarded when they say shit like >Only humans wage war man
>>567528341look what we've built, how different we are from wild animals
>>567528452damn thats sad, it's so sickening that war and rivalry all these wild impulses are still in humanitywe should be better
>>567528458Such a white way of thinking
>>567528458>mutts>not wild animalskekaroo
This is a mistake, all of it
>>567528913
>>567527893I have 0 clue how people make appealing pixelart. I think ill have to change the proportions, im going nowhere and only in circles. I know Berlin is known for drugs, maybe ill just go into a club with 200 euros and buy something to finally become creative. At least i think thats what drugs can do? Never tried any.
>>567529189use ai
>>567529189It sounds like you're feeling a bit stuck in your creative process, which is completely normal! Many artists go through phases where they feel uninspired or frustrated. Here are some suggestions that might help you break out of that cycle: Take a Break: Sometimes stepping away from your work, even for a short while, can help clear your mind and allow new ideas to form. Study Other Artists: Look at the pixel art created by others for inspiration. Analyze their use of colors, proportions, and how they convey emotion or depth. Experiment with Different Styles: Try changing your approach, whether it’s using different color palettes, styles, or themes. Experimentation can often lead to unexpected and interesting results. Use References: Find references from real life or other art mediums. This can give you a clearer vision of what you might want to create and help with proportions. Set Small Goals: Instead of trying to create a complete piece, set smaller, manageable goals. This could be focusing on a single character or a specific background element. Create with Restrictions: Sometimes setting limitations, such as using a specific color palette or a small canvas size, can spark creativity and force you to think outside the box.Regarding drugs, while some people might believe that they enhance creativity, the effects can vary greatly, and many can lead to negative consequences. It's essential to find healthier ways to stimulate your creativity. Consider other activities like physical exercise, meditation, or simply getting out into nature. These can often lead to clarity and inspiration without the downsides of substance use.Ultimately, creativity is a journey, and it’s okay to have tough days. Keep experimenting, and you will find your way!
>>567529189Your art is good but why are you only making tranny stuff?
>>567528790https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7gMqQt0OsjInot only white people have built civilization, damn all of this got me thinking, who Am I? Why Am I here? Why Am I doing video games? Why Video Games? What is this?
>>567529189Why is he a rabbit
>>567529356why are all these girls walking there with their bare asses?
>>567529550They are at the beach. Two piece swim suits are normal beach attire.
>>567529685can't they put on something more modest? boys have shorts why dont girls wear shorts?
Why?
>>567529847Because they do not want tan lines from thighs up. A lot of the times when women go to the beach -- it's to sunbathe. Besides, if you follow that logic, why do men need to be shirtless to show off? Cannot they put a tank top?
just another daynot much has changed for me
>>567529847your puritanical views are the poison that has been slowly destroying the west since after WW2. We were better served even by FRENCH (EUGH) ideals.
>>567528458>look what we've built, how different we are from wild animals
>>567529189come on man like just come on man
>>567525382zukjeet niggerite
>>567529189Please, for the love of god, avoid Berlin like the plague. It's a hellhole and we would all be better if Putin would just nuke it.>t. German
>>567529234>>567529276I might as well do at this point. Still cant get that ai gen from that one anon out of my head. Made my chars look better than i ever could. Thank you ai chad.>>567529336Idk, ask god why they gave me bad taste in art.>>567529540Im currently trying out turning all of my chars into furries to maybe make it less generic. But i need to push the shapes and silhouettes way more for that. Anyways ill get back to it. I refuse to waste more time on the game until i have something im happy with visually.
I wish I could get even a minimum wage jobsomehow gamedev turns out to be my best option to eke out any kind of living
>>567530050yea i know right, degenerates are well known for being great civilization builders!
>>567530469you don't have to limit yourself, explore, maybe build software or something
>>567530469why not prostitute?
>>567530469Gas stations, grocery stores, mcdonalds, courier services, food deliveries, uber etc.
>>567529189>I have 0 clue how people make appealing pixelart>posts thisnah dude, you're just humblebragging>>567529276>
>>567530470and yet you only managed to subvert and destroy what was already there... Hmmm. Maybe there's something degenerate in that, I wonder? Jung and shadows and something or someting else.... VIDEO GAMES ARE THE FUTURE
>>567530004progress
>>567487398me at the bottom
>>567529981not having tanlines is more imporant than shame of flashing your bare assokay
>found a way to add blocks to my gameMillions shall be mine
>>567529189I think good pixel art is drawn imperfectly, with imperfect form to deliver the symbol of what you're depicting but it's visually interesting and just good enough that it doesn't trip up the people looking at it. They also maximize the differences in design element hierarchy, bland doesn't really work in pixel art, you almost want one singular design element carrying the entire sprite and you don't want to move it around or obscure it too much because you want to be able to rest your eyes on a moving sprite without being assaulted by a blob of noise walking around.
>>567531214proof?
>>567530646Brush bros....
>>567529847>>567531060incel moment
>>567530765You made his game look better by getting rid of the awful resolution he uses for "style"
>>567531060it's only shame if you find it shameful. Why is your whore of a mother showing off her ankles in the presence of men for instance? No god fearing woman would ever subject herself to such shame, I hope her good for nothing husband disciplines her correctly this time.
>>567531323>NOO YOU JUST HAVE TO BE A DEGENERATE LIKE EVERYBODY IS OKAY?!
>>567531431>Showing the human body given by God is degenerateAll incels are atheists deep down
>>567530346Why don't you try making a sprite that doesn't have a giant bulbous head like a big retarded baby and restrain yourself on the gay ladyboy hairstyles?Imagine if you made a sprite with a normal head and normal hair, maybe that would spark something in you.
>>567531259I only have concept art
I’m sick of this nonsense
>>567530737how is that a humblebrag? wtf, kek he will never finish that slop pull your head out of your ass
>>567531506does that include men showing off their muscular body in front of your wife and fat men showing off their bodies in front of your kids?
>>567531696Look at those degenerate thoughts you have, you are a disgusting animal
>>567531696*while your wife is almost naked and is showing off her body to muscular men in question
>>567531554
>>567531554>>567532120people think I'm trolling when I say stick figures are good enough to become concept art now kek
>>567532120>woodSilly slopper
>>567532251look closer, buffoon, it has a ton of metal, not that a lu like you ever used magnets
>>567532251Show your concept art ;)
>>567532429I did
>>567532796Liar
>>567532858based alert
>>567513995Not Gogem. Try again, faggot.
>>567526909It's on par but 5x faster. Thus fast iteration and progress
>>567533349definitely Gogem
>>567533443Tell me 3 examples
>>567530285>goygem.unc crashout
>>567533523Everything I've asked it to do has just worked. I'm sure it would work in 5.5 too but that's the point, if both work then they're identical in this use case. But 5.3 Codex is busting it out 3-5x faster. I now have a 3d multiplayer open world game with procedural generation and inventory, item creator, ability creator, hotbar, tons of crazy stuff
>>567533740benchod
>>567533740it hardly matters what model you use or which platform programming is 100% solved at this pointlot of faggots still in deep denial though
>>567529189Does someone have this graph?
>>567533830
been seeing a lot of these posts as of late, all the gamercattle complaining about the flood of slop on steam.reading the replies, however, is absolutely hilarious. these retarded gamercattle begging valve for quality control, while they don't understand that this is exactly what valve wanted, they quite literally directly benefit from things being this way.yeah i'm sure valve will instill quality control on steam and cut their profits by at least half, they're definitely gonna do that.
>>567534086gamercattle love slop thouverbait
>>567533894
You ever think about going to community college to finish high school googs?
>>567534174some of them pretend that they don't
>>567534086If that is May data we are on track for 2026 to be the only year to ever release less games than the previous year.
>>567534086they can enforce quality control without preventing the slop from entering the marketplace. some games deserve to be removed from the front page entirely.
>>567529189See:>>567534203
>>567534086remember when they were complaining about indiepocalypse in 2016...
Is using 1024*512 texture for a tileset in a 4x a good idea?
dicking around with pixelart at a level not sustainable for finishing a game is not smart or skillful. its actually pretty fucking stupid, dunning kruger
>>567534414
>>567519517>And how much time is spent fixing human mistakes? And hunting down bugs in the code? AI can do it significantly faster, and you can have multiple instances of the AI hunting down multiple bugs/fixes at the same time.Terrible, disingenuous arguments all around.>And how much time is spent fixing human mistakes?For a terrible programmer, a lot, unless the mistakes are swept under the rug or something. In such a case, an AI could be better in some ways. Unless the AI is not properly isolated and sandboxed and goes haywire and deletes the production database and its backups.An LLM can mess up security horribly, mess up architecture horribly, etc. Similar to a truly awful programmer. It can do terrible things really, really quickly, so it needs to be sandboxed. You can then roll the dice on it and hope for the best, or have automated tests and hope they can catch absolutely everything and anything. Or manually review the changes by a competent and responsible programmer, which can take more time than that competent and responsible programmer writing it in the first place for some cases.There are some sweet spots for LLM usage, but some of the sweet spots still involves a skilled programmer. And sweet spots are far from everywhere with AI. AI can be a lot like taking code from StackOverflow or random blog posts or libraries. In such a case, you still need to understand the code and the domains involved.>And hunting down bugs in the code? AI can do it significantly faster, and you can have multiple instances of the AI hunting down multiple bugs/fixes at the same time.AI is good at hunting down some subset of bugs and architectural issues and the like. But it can have false positives, requiring an experienced programmer in the loop to verify the bugs. And from what I hear in the field, AI is not great at architecture, not even with guidance.And if AI usage was so easy and good, a lot of the games in /agdg/ would have way fewer bugs.
>>567534860a mountain of cope
>>567534860Top tier programmers can program at 20x the speed of thought with AI while producing maintainable codebase. If you can't see this, then you are the terrible programmer. Q.E.D.https://antirez.com/news/164
>>567534378>some games deserve to be removed from the front page entirely.it's as if you didn't read my post. they don't give a shit. why would they? they have marketshare majority, their userbase is extremely locked down on their store and is more loyal to them than apple or nintendo customers are, so they don't have to give a shit about hte negligible reputational damage it does to them.but more importantly, all that slop you see is valve's main source of income. i'm not kidding.according to that tweet, just from the 100$ fee from all the RELEASED games this year they've made 888 thousand dollars. this number does not include the 30% they take from every one of those games, and it also doesn't include all the UNRELEASED GAMES and DEMOS.because if you check the steam appids, they increase by a million each year. and although some of those appids are DLCs, test apps, music kits and other shit, the majority of it are still games.just think how much slop we don't see simply because the dev never pressed the "release" button, and how much money valve makes from that.and now explain to me, why would they put an end to a literal money printer like this?
>>567515663Their goal is to automate everything retard
>>567535116can you imagine the amount of corporate seethe over Steam's money printing abilities in board meetings
>>567534414kanna...
>>567521006>>567521604'____'What games do you like to play yourself?
>>567535067that's great, but what would Razumikhin have to say about that, huh? Would he be happy about the state of affairs?I like to think that if Razumikhin was here, he would have an answer for us...
>>567534086these people fail to realize that slop is exactly what the average consumer wants, modern mass entertainment is always made for the lowest common denominator
>>567535116>888 thousand dollarsThis is a really funny example of someone not understanding scale. That is the cost of like four employees after overhead. That is nothing. The fact you would even bring up such a trivial number is ridiculous. You do not know anything.
>>567535116the $100 fee is returned to you once your game has been proven to not be utter slop by the community. are you calculating that?they make the most money from games that sell really well and their dumb gambling/item/skin system marketplace not their filter fee.you have no idea what you're really talking about considering you think their filter fee is what makes them the most money. don't bother replying to me you've already outed yourself as a complete retard.
>>567534086people who say complain about this should have their steam library exposed so people can see how much slop they've bought over the years
>>567535519no way the average valvoid is making 200k+
>>567535694Do you seriously not understand that having a full-time employee has costs other than salary?
>>567535569>the $100 fee is returned to you once your game has been proven to not be utter slop by the community. are you calculating that?after you earn them $300 in fees, so they still profit from that.>they make the most money from games that sell really well and their dumb gambling/item/skin system marketplace not their filter fee.i'm not trying to deny either of these, i don't understand where you get that from, i'm just saying the $100 fee is as low as it is for a very good reason. all this slop on steam is making valve a significant amount of money.
>>567535682I don't even have a Steam account. Feels so good reading posts like this ngl. Its like I'm chosen or something for being an independent thinker.
>>567534961Then post your bug-free game that had AI fixing all the bugs.>>567535067>AI-proponent makes wild claims about AIAny unbiased sources?
>>567535519you should at least finish reading the post before crashing out over it.
>>567534414Do you like foreheads because you yourself are balding?
>>567535868>all this slop on steam is making valve a significant amount of money.yeah wow, 888k pays for 4-7 employees per year. this is a nothingburger number you moron. you're literally crying about the change that you could find in gabes yacht cushions.
>>567536157your reading comprehension is pathetically bad if that's all what you got out of my post.
>>567530765kinda basednow make a successfull game in AI>>567531382it looks nice, it wouldnt have sold otherwise anon
>>567536054To be honest I didn't, because the fact that you brought up a number under a fucking million when talking about Valve's revenue made you sound stupid. But since you asked, I went back and read the rest of the post. It was as retarded and rambling as I expected and did nothing to redeem you. You don't have to post, you know. Just go work on your game. Don't worry about these big picture things. A guy like you, you've got an advantage, because you can use 100% of your brainpower on anything, you know? That's real valuable if you keep at it.
>>567536147
>>567534203Right now I'm riding one of the high points. We are so back.
>>567506443You have to be a retard to think anything they did before 2022 was intentional in any way. Before that year they had bots playing Dota, and then out of nowhere they made LLMs and Image generators, reminder image generators are just demonising machines put over random noise so you can blame NVIDIA for that and their upscaling division, and as far as LLMs go their development started back before even 2020 but the technology had no goal, it was just next word predictor that sometimes made functional sentences and even now without post-training which was not a thing until 2021 you could argue they could do anything and that they are soon to be AGI. They never mention when he left or if he ever had actual influence. Btw the only AI company that said they want to automate gamedev was xAI and then bunch of startups that nobody cares about.
>>567535294just so we're clear, automate EVERYTHING means making human labor less valuable
>>567536235your basic understanding of money is astounding. you must be a third worlder retard. stop crying about a company making profit. you would cry if they stopped the slop and made the steam fee $1k instead of $100 there is absolutely no winning with you retard communists.
>>567536387how are you always so grouchy? what's going on with you man
>>567536147Only norwood sufferers notice
>>567536529Yes, they never singled out gamedev and they said numerous times explicitly they want to automate all work, all of it.
>>567530469have you tried applying to tech jobs with your portfolio?I don't know if it can work. someone said his enginedev got him a job, but that's better than using an engine.
>>567531554>>567532120what the fuck is this supposed to be anyway
>>567536554you're just throwing a tantrum right now for the sake of arguing here. i was only explaining to an anon why valve wouldn't do quality control on steam, since they benefit from so many games releasing. i don't understand why that post offended you to such a degree, unless you literally worship valve which is weird but whatever.
>>567536764>I don't know if it can workIt can't, I've been chased out of several interviews and been told to apply to AAA studios instead because they're doing me a favor and I need to follow my passion
Do you ever just want to make something beautiful?
>>567536785A magnet, a bunch of blocks, and a cat
>>567499774100% could have been done since like 2023 where you could just ask AI for every snippet of code and texture and then just put it together. Survivor-likes and other incremental games are notoriously easy to vibe code.
>>567536939All the time, I've spent years chasing but I'll always be in Homm3's shadow
>>567534086reminder
>>567536912your post offends me because of how retarded you are. you cry and complain I offer a solution that valve could implement without losing any money and you cry and complain about money anyways. you're simply a retard not worth arguing with because you're never going to change your mind and that is why you'll always be poor.
AI Chads wonnered bigly
>>567536428>>567536570More like I can only assume the worst about pedophiles.Also neck yourself, samefaggot.
>>567537429
>>567535248I miss the v3 girl comics
>>567534496That was the biggest jump, wdym?
>>567537520>inspect element or IP
>>567537601
>>567537196>you cry and complaini didn't. you're projecting right now.>offer a solution that valve could implement without losing any moneyi don't give a shit about that, since it wasn't the point of my post.
>>567537794you're absolute retard with no point at all
>>567537108Thoughts on Olden Era?
>>567537429relax
I just nutted in my sheets because I was too lazy to grab a cumragFeels good nonetheless
>>567537718Thank you for confirming it.Strange that you describe yourself as a schizo.
Nothing gets nodevs angrier than the $100 dollar Steam fee
>>567538195Is there a reason someone would be happy about it?
birdshooting!!!dont ask y the gun is backwards, some weird transform stuffidk, im gonna try some more minigames but so far its only been fishing that feels rightMAYBE ill just do fishing more intense, with a showroom in your truck where you can view your rare catches or whateverquality over quantityidk, im just fuckin around
>>567538005>>567537429
>>567518161A game has to have gameplay.
If I add femboys to my game will asmongolds fanbase crucify me?
>>567538429Let’s see… Mixtape did good, it has barely any gameplay
>>567538458Get a female VA for the femboy and enjoy the seethebux
>>567537958An aesthetic disaster but you can't expect modern companies to produce absolute kino reminiscent of Jason and the Argonauts (1963) and Elmore's art. But the game is made to be played which is more than I can say about Homm3 and I've only had to do the occasional wikidive whereas you need a pdf open to play the third one. For the most part I think it's mechanically superior, I don't mind the new factions except for the bugs all looking the same, the spell system works great. I haven't touched campaign and I don't plan to until it's released but from what I've heard it doesn't live in cringekino anymore and it's been touched by somewhat quirkchungus writers.I think anyone larping about Homm3 being the objectively superior game is full of shit and they're just being old for the sake of it.
I hope bundev is okaydoes anyone know where he's from?
>>567538753I hope that fat beetus tard is dead
>>567536385>it looks nice, it wouldnt have sold otherwise anonI disagree entirely. Making screen space pixels LARGER didn't sell your game at all. Likely it doesn't affect sales at all but it does look WORSE.
>>567538753he is from benchod island
>>567538753uk
>>567539686>>567539490
Can I dev on my iPhone?
>>567539784ye
>>567537919>you're absolute retard with no point at allGood evening saar! Please do the needful and redeem the english, sar!
>>567539879I don't live in the UK.
>>567539837just found out there is a godot for ios, nice, although I’ve changed my mind
>>567537794>i don't give a shit about that, since it wasn't the point of my post.Why do people who never graduate high school become perpetually stuck as teenagers?
>>567535294>Gamedev isn't included in everythingESL moment
>>567465331Alright sister's it's time for some more stats! Covering only the first 30 days of release for /agdg/ games and BiteMe's game that got good results on Steam since March. All revenue is estimated, rounded, and before Steam's cut. All revenue shows a range based off a 30:1 and 40:1 sales to review ratio>Guns and Nuns: Storming HellReviews: 544Revenue: $105k - $140k>Poke All ToadsReviews: 354Revenue: $90k - $120k>MMO98Reviews: 448Revenue: $73 - $97k>Wasteland BitesReviews: 325Revenue: $67k - $89k>WireworksReviews: 268Revenue: $41k - $55k
>>567540242No shit nigger, how fucking stupid you are, you are like a Jew saying asteroid that will kill everyone is antisemitic because it also kills Jews.
>>567540439>Nepo>Paid shills to spam /v/>Youtuber nepo>Zoomer sellout>Who
>>567540439yet wireworks has the longest playtime and guns and nuns the shortestPLAYTIME THEORY FOREVER DEBUNKEDwhere's the playtime anon? I want to bully him
>>567540864Lmao. They would say that, those rascals.
>>567540978errm actually nuns have infinite gameplay
>>567540978How long is guns and nuns playtime?
Reminder, lus fear AI Chads, they shit their pants at the thought of us making games without needing their trans assistance.
>>567540439I think this website is the ingredient for a flop.Name one game that came outta here that's actually successful besides Stardew
>>567540864>Erm acktually retard they don't want to automate gamedev they want to automate everything (including game dev)Lol just shut up sperg. No one cares.
>>5675410831.4 hoursbut MMO98 has 6.9 hours and it is in fact the longestmarnix wins again
>>567538620Doesn't stuff like energy phoenixes lead to boring, indefinitely-kiting gameplay? Maybe the meta is too young, or it will be changed during EA, or it isn't an issue in practice.There also seems to be a lot of bugs in the game.Some multiplayer modes seem great for playing, but also seem very arcadey - like two heroes clashing 3 times automatically, but the first two clashes, neither side loses any army. Might be for the better, overall.The game seems to be a mess in regards to art and story, and not as clear as one might like in a strategy game.No boats, no underground, though that can change, possibly.They don't have multi-hex units, and they should probably stick to not having them. It doesn't make sense in terms of lore. It could have made some art easier if the game was 2D, since it means more space for graphically larger unit types, but with 3D, turning to attack, it would just look weird. In terms of gameplay, some complexity might be lost. An alternative might be some added complexity regarding that kind of stuff some other way.Not doing full 3D, but with isometric view, seems like a missed opportunity. Would make the back hexes look as large as the front ones. They could possibly still experiment with it.A lot of focus on some of the stranger gameplay aspects of HOMM3, which is the safer choice in some ways.They probably already had success riding the nostalgia wave, and now just need to go through the motions. I am skeptical that anyone would have bought the game if it didn't have the name and nostalgia aspects.
>>567537429>I can only assume the worst about pedophiles.cool but who asked?
>>567538753I don't like him, but I also don't wish him ill. The story he told regarding the Japanese girl seemed like a mess overall.I still think he should have changed the grass.
>>567541172If you mean 4chan then you are wrong. Minecraft started here as well.
Added lunge mommentum to the attacks, im not fully sold on it.My biggest critique of devil may cris dev was that you had to rely on lock on all the time to get anything done and I think that was the reason, way too much lunging.Perhaps the character should only lunge to close the gap to the closes enemy.Then again dmc did have a subtly lung in their basic attacksAlso sped up the animations and added jump cancelsGive it a try let me know if it feels good at leasthttps://angular.itch.io/dmc>>5675412211.4 hours what the hell?How long did it take to make?
>>567540978"Correlated" doesn't mean "guaranteed". Low-IQs focus on outliers while high-IQs focus on distributions. Most /agdg/ debates really do just come down to those of us who understand high school level math and those of y'all who dropped out.
>>567541083You gotta include the average time players spent gooning to fanart of the nun for a truly accurate number
>>567540439Is that AI art? The left arm seems insane.First 3 games performed well. PAT doing well is not surprising since it was developed over multiple years, MMO98 is an idle slop game by a team. But Guns and Nuns was developed in a relatively brief amount of time. The Guns and Nuns developer is also experienced, with multiple Steam releases.
Is this a good artstyle for a 4x?
>>567541172Valhalla and risk of rainVaganteThat penguin friendslopWe can totally say that the biggest projects had success despite being on agdg, not because the community is so great to build their members.But to be sure we should count every dev community, see the ratio games/success and see the results.
>>567541705funny how half of agdg games are outliers in terms of average playtime.
how do we cope?
>>567541382>>567537429
>>567540439how much reviews did guns and nuns get on its very first day? because steam says it already had 300+ reviews on release day yet the CCU is only 155 which doesn't add up, since you can't leave a review without running a game. is steam's historical review data inaccurate?
>>567541962Add to that, communities change their userbase. So like obsidian that make Vegas 20y ago it's possible that at the time of risk of rain this place was the best ever.Today? Not a chance
>>567541994using AI
Indie games are in need of a great reset.
>>567541994by making loli game
>>567542301we are nowhere near running out of lives yet, though.
WelpI thought it would take a lot longer than this, like a couple of decades at least, but after just 5 short years of Unity gamedev, the thought of having to get up in the morning to debug another MonoBehaviour lifecycle issue, wrangle another prefab variant, fix another Animator controller, chase another Addressables/IL2CPP build bug, or review some agent generated """gameplay system""" slop is making me wanna delete the whole Library folder and walk into the sea.I can feel that I'm mere weeks if not days away from having a full-on editor crash at work.Gonna hand in my notice, run out the clock, and try to chill over the summer.After that, any advice on what's the current meta for salvaging your life as a burnout europoor Unity gamedev?
>>567542456don't quit your jobI don't care if you're the turd assessor in the sewers, hold on to your job like your life depends on it
>>567541971the jeet retard is trying to push his post hoc analysis as a dogmatic truth
>>567541971Average playtime theory isn't short games can't make it. It's that longer games are all but guaranteed to make it while shorter games are more of a gamble. For every short game that makes it, you can name a dozen that flopped, while you can only name a very tiny handful of games with higher playtimes that still flopped.
>>567540439nundev wonnedthanks for the stats sis
>>567542740>For every short game that makes it, you can name a dozen that floppedFor every game that makes it, you can name a dozen that floppedMy issue with the playtime theory retard is that he keeps pointing to short playtimes as the reason some game flopped
>>567541994For the cumulative games value you may as well cut that number down to 400 every year because only 400ish games a year ever get shown to anyone on steam. So in 2025 sure you had 21489 games that year but 21000 now exist in the shadow realm so they are no longer competition in 2026
>>567542791Avatarfagging.
>>567541313They plan on adding and changing some stuff before release, they've confirmed the underground layer and water travel. I think the focus on using homm3 as the base is the right call. It's hard to say if it would do well without nostalgia, while Songs of Conquest is more complete it also has inferior mechanics overall. I've only ever played Jebus customs to learn the game but I think it's great.
>>567541923no, just draw maps by hand or let people genAI pictures of their own maps and add custom grids a la Dominions
>>567542968If people were willing to play the game for longer, then it wouldn't have flopped. Unlike other purely subjective, gay, feminine, magical shit like juice and appeal, playtime is a highly objective metric that you can systematically engineer and optimize for.
>>567543485You need to stop theorizing about things you don't know anything about
>>567543619You need at least 130 IQ to contemplate more complex thoughts and make it as a game developer.
Do you guys just sit there analyzing steam all day or what
>>567543739This guy doeshttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Wrm7kWWKSs
>>567543619it's a jeet retard who is for some reason obsessed with zukowski, it's trying to apply his "median playtime" concept without understanding that the initial idea was focused on demos, not released games. and this jeet also doesn't understand the difference between "average" and "median". needless to say that this jeet isn't aware of goodhart's law when it says to "optimize for a metric".
Bets on Bokube failing when it releases next month?
>>567544031
>>567544112My bet is he'll get 25-45 reviews in the first month. He'll get his steam fee back but it's going to be pretty much impossible to recoup his time sunk costs.
>it works
This general feels like everybody just wants to make money with games. Is there nobody who wants to make a good game without considering if itll be successful or not?
>>567544112>Bokube releasing next month>believing it
>>567544658If it's not successful then it's not a good game.
Man you would really assume that this entire website is just indians with how often people get called jeets. At this point it's just jeets calling each other jeets.
>>5675441122000 reviews, overwhelmingly positive
>>567544031I came up with average playtime theory by myself before being evangelized by other thread ZukCHADs to Zukowski's theories, mostly upon first discovering and scouring gamalytic.com from some Marnix video, which only has mean playtime and not median, but honestly mean appears to be good enough for the kinds of games that I typically enjoy and make, since the distributions aren't as heavily skewed as other genres.Admittedly, I am biased against the kinds of games that I'd never play myself like the gay zoomer horrorslop that you seem to enjoy. Those tend to be way shorter than the complex systems games that I play.Average playtime theory really just says to make Zukowoski's #4, #5, and #6 magic games.
>>567544837Honestly I hope he does but I have a hard time seeing that.
>>567544658i need MONEY dude
>>567542142Yep
>>567544112>Betz has the Bokube build for some reason>He's been trying to record footage for it per the v3 discord>He recently re-shilled their interview with him>The meme response "are you sure?" image to someone saying Boku wouldn't release with his trip on>v3 is in two weeksThere's no fucking way this shits happening the way I'm thinking it is, right?
>>567544837>>567544343both of these scenarios would be an equally glorious shitshow
>>567544763You just know that the retards crying about jeets are unemployed dropouts like gogem with nothing better to do than doomscroll /pol/ all day. Anyone who went to college over the last few decades would have indian classmates, coworkers, and friends.
>>567544931He hasn't advertised it in the right places
>>567544658adults need money
>>567545047sounds like Boku got a publisher
>>567544112next month?Time passes so fast.... it only took 10 years!meanwhile that loser Hopoo hasn't released anything. heh. that's what you get when you leave this blessed thread.
>>567544658Successful === good. Anything else is cope.
>>567544658My game will be good and successful thoughbeit.
If your game doesn't have blocks in it, you might as well delete the files because games are about blocks
is this a sustainable dev cycle?
>>567545047You're connecting dots where there is none. Betz likely is just play testing for Boku and recording any bugs that might appear which is common industry practice that way you're not wasting time trying to describe them. Timing is coincidental to the V3 show
>>567544658Dear anonymous friend, I've been here for 13 long years and haven't managed to make ONE game. Do you really think I can even think about making a SUCCESSFUL one at that?
>>567545970>10 years>30 million dollars invested>viewbotted trailer>current wishlist count translates to 20 mil loss at best, that's not counting valve's cut and publisher's cut
>>567545956my game has thousands of blocks
>>567545991I like think Betz and Boku are dating. The jealousy is driving me to dev harder.
>>567543209>It's hard to say if it would do well without nostalgia, while Songs of Conquest is more complete it also has inferior mechanics overall. I've only ever played Jebus customs to learn the game but I think it's great.Fair argument, but without the nostalgia, fanbase and name, people at large wouldn't be familiar with the mechanics, and thus a critical mass of people playing the game and playing multiplayer would be much harder to attain. And if the campaign is as terrible as many are saying, I don't think they would have gotten that mass. Also, they got a lot of feedback from interested and engaged multiplayer streamers and fans of HOMM, and some of that feedback must actually have been really good, and the developers actually had sufficient skill and insight to use the good feedback and not be led astray by the bad feedback, to some degree. But I think they also have some office politics and biased parties that hinders them in some ways (like fixing art and improving story) - though they might be fortunate that those ways in this specific case might not matter as much as other aspects (gameplay, multiplayer) due to existing fanbase.The story is probably a mess in part due to wanting to not step on toes. Like, they don't like doing literal demonization, so they went for demonic bugs/Starcraft zerg instead of humanoid demons. Which actually makes sense. But they did it in a messy and confused way, among other mishaps and weirdness.They probably already won. But, if going further, the question might be whether they can fix gameplay issues, fix bugs in general including multiplayer bugs (turn-based, shouldn't be too difficult), and if the gameplay and the fun of the game will last for years, or fizzle out and people going back to HOMM3. Ubisoft might be OK with that, since I believe they still get income from sales of HOMM3, and the studio already sold a lot in EA. Just need to do a reasonable job and do a full release at some point.Who knows.
>making an UI that only works with controller: easy>making an UI that only works with mouse: easy>making an UI that works with both: hard
>>567545970His new game wouldn't be taking that long if it weren't for JAI. You try making a game and a custom language for it at the same time.
>>567546141>>567546264I wasn't referring to Jon Blow and his latest game in that post, retards
>>567546148Good but could we perhaps make them shorter and of a uniform height
>>567546347Then the answer is no it's not sustainable. You're not Jon Blow, retard.
>>567546264His game wouldn't be taking that long if he wasn't a luddite and used AI to speed up the development of both JAI and Sokoban Clone #14652.
>>567546264he also said that it's like the witness but 10 times more complex, so even without JAI he would spend just as much time working on his meta meta metapuzzles.
>>567544658you would think crabs would hate money motivated projects (mirroring) the most but they hate originality even more because it's something seemingly simple that they're incapable ofyou have to be willing to suffer an endless horde of crabs a hundred times more snebby than normal
>>567545991I though BokuDev and Betz were openly coordinating Bokube releasing and being in the v3Expo show. Like, nothing being hidden, they are officially doing that.
>>567546649looks good gogem. AI is doing you wonders.
>>567546257just do both easy things and detect input
I honestly doubt my game would succeed regardless of how good it was, simply because I'm not a popular person
>>567544658I don't just want money. I want money and POWER. I want everyone to be MISERABLE. I want you to SUFFER.
>>567546649You should probably shill or pay horror streamers like CaseOh and Insym to play your game. If it is a horror game.
>>567547298you dropped this
>>567546649i don't understand what this game is supposed to be
>>567546649The "crabs" are more motivating than the people who are just positive.Wonder how your game will play like. Strikes me like a puzzle game at first. But it might not be.
>>567547374>>567547529>>567547693it's an openworld simulation windowed through an OS/web simulator with the final intent to become a hacking game (the user has no agency at the current version, you can only view the simulation)
>>567547693I disagree honestly. Positivity offers no motivation, crabs offer demotivation.
>>567546924WHAT. You'd better provide a fucking source to back that shit up
Making a platformer is awesome because every animation I make is immediately accessible and instantly improves the quality of the game, almost linearly, the pipeline is actually fun for a change
If Boku wants to succeed, he should put his game on like, fucking Tiktok or something.
>>567546924>Boku releasing >At v3ExpoThanks for that laugh. That game is never coming out
>>567548332This. I wont lie agdg is a massive let down, you would think the annonymity would make people say whats on their mind but99% of the time they ignore you to spare your feelings or just call your game tranime or somthing.There has to be a place somewhere, where you can get people to actually critique your game
>>567548175actually i should correct this a little>openworld simulation>you can only view the simulationit' looks like a simulation but precisely it's procedural generation, there won't be any simulation until agency is addedpic related
>>567548981To add onto this, i saw nun and guns dev get crabbed multiple times, his game released and its doing fine.So clearly agdg does not know what they are talking about.Its better to see this general as a gamedev hangout with zany caracters like Cris
>>567549030woah its the matrix
>>567548981Go to the 'cord if you actually have a game you want to talk about, the people making this thread dogshit don't speak up in there
I'm currently working on the UI for the battle stage for my tactical roguelite. I'd love some input on the UI - is there any major issues or do you think it's good to go for Next Fest in October?
So if the Boku rumors are true then it's really the end of an era for /agdg/. What other legacy memes are there now?
>>567549162it's the technique i invented that makes the procgen of npc pathing possible (among other procgen things that require inversion to function)
>>567549384The people in the discord are mostly only positive too. Especially when it comes to art.
>>567548981what the hell do you want man, i want to be nice to you
I don't even care if people are nice or mean I just want literal nodevs to get the fuck out. The agdg discord will ban you for criticizing anything and is purely a hugbox so it's completely worthless it's safer to post on reddit than their shitcord. v3 discord I have no idea but I have a feeling its probably just as shit.
>>567548387>>567548664But Betz, you already know.
>>567548981I just wish this place focused more on building others up rather than tearing them down
>>567525423I don't know which version it was but there was a godlike version at one point that an update ruined. It's been months and it has never been that good at writing code again.
>>567550050What, exactly, do you expect from a pedophile-infested general?
>>567549479like that time you invented the concept of "Restricted RPS"?
>>567549537If people are ignoring you it probably isn't to "spare your feelings" it's because you obviously don't have the skills to make anything up to a particular standard so why bother critiquing? It's a waste of time. You develop skills by doing it, so nobody's going to tell you to stop doing it, but nobody needs to tell you how to polish a turd either. If people aren't excited about the stuff you're posting, your goal should be to improve until they are excited by what you do. That's not something anyone can coach you through, that's a personal journey.
>>567550050pretty hard to do that with someone like the zukjeet (average playtime schizo) whose entire shtick is just shitting on anons from here for some reason.
>>567540439>none of these games used AIai trannies keep looooosing
>>567549537this, its too weird without anonymity you just become the resident hardass.>>567549582Stop being nice bro, I want to make a good game not be friends>>567550050It does neither, it either gives people delusions so they waste a year plus of their time on a game thats going nowhere, shits on people with retarded one sentence critiques like "this looks bad" or ignores them.
>>567550280nuns an guns and mmo98 for sure had AI involvement.
>>567550168I never said that anybody ignored me? What i implied was that everybody is lying and you can only trust the "crabs" in this general.
>>567550402Yeesh
>>567550163not beating the allegations >>567546649
Can you help me decide what game to make?
>>567550402Sometimes I wonder "Am I going anywhere?"
>>567550807I wonder the same thing about you.
>>567550670"gabencunt simulator"you're given a game every minute and you must decide how much promotion each game will get and how much money it will makepromoting very shitty slop will cause your reputation to go downand the goal is to maximize revenue whilst maintaining your reputation above a certain threshold
>>567550481Were you not the one who posted>99% of the time they ignore you to spare your feelings
>>567550957don't forget the Bank of Steamyou lose money from your investment fund for each flop that manages to earn back it's direct deposit or make the threshold for a payment. stop them making money by any means!
>>567550670choose something that checks the list>a game you can make>a game you want to make>a game that's small enough it won't take you ages to finish it>a game that other people want to play
kind of more of an analogue game question than a video game question, but as someone who knows zero about code, web dev, web design, etc what would i need to learn to make an rpg character or roster builder likehttps://compcon.app/#/https://pathbuilder2e.com/https://army-forge.onepagerules.com/army-books/grimdark-futurei dont mind sitting down and watching tutorials or reading documentation, but i kind of dont know where to start with this stuff. my background is more in 3d modeling, animation, photoshop design, illustration, that kind of stuff. i probably should have taken some web design courses in college lol
>>567551123No i wasnt. I posted:>>567547693>>567549537
>>567551453Go learn react it's not perfect but it'll get the job doneTailwind too for styling
>>567551453If you know how to use design tools like Figma, then try Claude Design.
betz is racist, here is his gf
give gamers what they want
>>567549975Not Betz but holy shit it's real. Bokube is finally releasing. The mad bastard did it
>>567552161pls flop it would be too funny
>>567550634yeah yeah googum, we've been over this again and again for the last decade.
>>567552091
>>567552054Why do you keep hiding the timestamp?
>>567552569hes scared
>>567552569
>>567552569basic internet hygiene, never share timezones with people
Predict the price. I'm going to say $10.99
>>56755284915-20
>>567552849around $6-7, roughly.
>>567553041that's total profit silly
>>567552849can't be lower than $10 and can't be higher than $15if it's higher or lower it's going to cause massive damage to itself
>>567553174no it wont
>>567552091doll joints...
>>567553174>If it's lower it'll cause damage to itself I don't know I feel like if he priced it at $5 then it arguably allows it to have a better chance of being a success because of the low price entry point.
>>567552569Lots of people hide it.
>>567553201k>>567553252The lower the price the lower the perceived quality.
Boku is half chink so he doesn't value his labor at all. $5
>>567553174actually to add to my own message. he might be best off charging $15 or $20 and putting it on sale to lower it to $10 to $15 or so. Sales always make people want in. Put your mind into the shoes of a gamercunt.
>>567554061You must be really confused with modern Call of Duty games that cost $80 then. High price, shitty quality.
>>567554350hollow knight is $20. call of duty sells alone on its name. if you're using exceptions as a rule we can go back and forth all day with this retarded rebuttal. we should be thinking about averages in the scope of what his game is.
>>567554579>hollow knight is $20Yeah, and they are retarded for pricing or that low
>>567554776What I said completely went over your head.
>>567541705>Most /agdg/ debates really do just come down to those of us who understand high school level math and those of y'all who dropped out.I love how this immediately triggered he who shall not be named into seething about jeets again >>567542705Put the name back on lil buddy. Too afwaid? Brave enough to post your red text on black screen "game" again but too scared to have your anti-zuk tantrums with your name on. Aww He too 'fwaid
>>567554579>Comparing Bokube to Hollow KnightSure I'd love to compare my CR-V to a Lamborghini. My point being is that Boku might mean a lot to us but it's competing with [x] number of games. The only thing that'll make Bokube stand out on release day is the v3 expo page on steam which will put eyes on all the game. So you do a low introduction price at $5 to lure in those viewers but keep the price at like $7.99 or something.
>>567555296>>567555296>>567555296
>>56755477620 bucks is expensive for a game
>>567545214It is literally him lolHim and the AI spammer are basically the same person. They even hump eachothers leg frequently >>567442757>>567445982>>567446029And they both have melties about zukowski because they have no idea how good games are made or sold. One because they are determined to make horrible "games" and the other because they can't even brute force a prototype with their AI slop
>>567555309>Comparing Bokube to Hollow KnightI never did that. You didn't read what I said at all so I'm not reading past that misquote.
>>567555340Only indie devs think this way for some reason.
>>567555334>made the thread early>wall of text "exclusive insider" screen from his gay 'cordA lil desperate today are we betz
>>567555759Not me. Although I'll admit I was gonna make the thread with a "confirmed release edition" with the Boku header. Someone beat me to it.
>>567555561Your loss. I'll assume I won the argument
>>567556047Yeah morons usually think like that. You didn't even understand what I said.
Bokube has 3 weeks to come up with a reason why he's pushing the release date back to Fall 2026, which will then become Winter 2026.
>>567556273And miss out on having Betz's crew make him a custom release trailer and release in time for Next Fest? I think it's just happening for real this time.
>>567555759Not Betz. I can reveal that I at least once made an Underspace thread.
>>567547374I would love to see a streamer audience tear that "game" apart lmao It will be a bloodbath. Will never happen though, not even the most lonely or desperate streamer would ever play a "game" that looks like this.
>>567556381He's literally hemming and hawing in that screenshot about how he's not able to actually finish the game. It's not happening lolYou guys keep forgetting that bokube is a meth smoking scam artist who sold his soul to rip people off for a few thousand on kickstarter.
In just the past 3 years I have seen bokube milk this general for hype over his game "releasing" maybe 5 times. It's amazing. He feasts on the dopamine from your attention and then fucks off to push it back another 6 months. Over and over.
>>567552849$20
>>567527386The difference is musk is a nepobaby who got lucky and failed upwards. The Euphoric brothers made an MVP that was beloved by the public.
Yeah fuck this, im unable to make anything appealing. Ill just use ai.
