/aicg/ - A general dedicated to the discussion and development of AI chatbots#815 - sexy car wash Edition▶https://rentry.org/aicg_vg_memo▶This general is for discussion of the interactive experiences you can build on top of AI chatbots.>NewsChub has changed their TOS: >>566850575BotBrowser Extension leaks keys https://rentry.co/st-backdoorDeepseek V4 https://huggingface.co/deepseek-ai/DeepSeek-V4-Pro/blob/main/DeepSeek_V4.pdfGPT-5.5 https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-5-5Kimi K2.6 https://www.kimi.com/blog/kimi-k2-6Claude Opus 4.7 https://www.anthropic.com/news/claude-opus-4-7GPT-5.4 https://openai.com/index/introducing-gpt-5-4additional info: https://aicg.neocities.org/info>FrontendsSillyTavern: https://docs.sillytavern.appRisuAI: https://risuai.netAgnai: https://agnai.chat | https://rentry.org/agnai_guides_>Botshttps://characterhub.org | https://chub.aihttps://realm.risuai.nethttps://partyintheanchorhold.neocities.orghttps://aicg.neocities.org/botshttps://botbooru.com/>Modelsjailbreaks: https://rentry.org/jb-listinggpt: https://platform.openai.com/playground | https://platform.openai.com/docsclaude: https://console.anthropic.com | https://docs.anthropic.com | https://rentry.org/how2claudegemini: https://gemini.google.com | https://ai.google.dev/docs | https://rentry.org/gemini-qrdeepseek: https://chat.deepseek.com | https://api-docs.deepseek.comlocal: >>>/g/lmg | https://aicg.neocities.org/local | https://openrouter.ai>Botmakinghttps://aicg.neocities.org/botmakinghttps://desune.moe/aicharedhttps://agnai.chat/editor>MetaOP templates: https://rentry.org/vgOP | https://rentry.org/aicgOPaicg botmaking events: https://aicg.neocities.org/eventslore: https://rentry.org/aicg_chroniclesrice: https://aicg.neocities.org/ricingservices assessment: https://rentry.org/aicg_metalogs: https://sprites.neocities.org/l/r | https://chatlogs.neocities.orgPrev: >>567504767
sexy ANCHOR
none of you know good music.
Event ANCHOR
[char 2]'s eyebrow lifted a fraction of an inch.[char 1]'s pretended not to see itHOW DO I MAKE THIS SUBTLE ASS "she moved a fraction of an inch and the tempature dropped by a single degree" WRITING SHIT GO AWAY AIEEEEEEEEEEEEEE. JUST SAY SHE GAVE A KNOWING LOOK OR SOMETHING YA DAFT FUCK
>>567637376Oh yeah? Explain this, Clarissa:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Nc7-SH4cX0
>>567637443>JUST SAY SHE GAVE A KNOWING LOOK OR SOMETHING YA DAFT FUCKhow much y'all want to bet this anon has some "show don't tell" slop in his preset?
>>567637376watch thishttps://youtu.be/JfewZjo79Hk
A classichttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miomuSGoPzI
>>567637376>aibros don't know good artWOWIE
>>567637558I thought it would improve the writing qualitysometimes I forget that technique was much better suited originally towards plays n shows or whatever; something that could take advantage of visual info a lot moreI JUST THOUGHT IT COULD COME UP WITH MORE INTERESTING SHIT IF I GAVE IT THAT SORT OF PROMPTING, BUT MY PROMPT IS SO FUCKING LONG MAN I GOTTA UNFUCK IT I GUESS
Bros, I'm kinda enjoying 3.5 flash....
>>567637376Ok smart guy, let's see (You)R taste in music.
>>567637771Wrong. You are not. You are having a stroke.
>>567637771yeah it's alrightit's just expensive
>>567637565Which general does this
>>567637772https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pt7KbDvUwmQ&pp=ygUMZ3VyYSBzaW5naW5nhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LbD6N3z26tE&pp=ygUMZ3VyYSBzaW5naW5n0gcJCQQLAYcqIYzvi also like video game music
>>567638070Chuubas die twice.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-BvIcd_8h2A
Vtubers are a blessing
>>567638070>>567638690some swede is plapping her cunny as we speak
death to all vtubers
>vtumors
>>567637656>in ai general>hates ai
>>567637443>>567637558>>567637736Emotion should surface directly through what characters say and do; the reader shouldn't have to decode vague signals to understand how anyone is feeling. For example, instead of: "Her [char 2] eyebrow lifted a fraction of an inch. [char 1] pretended not to see it." — which forces the reader to decode a micro-expression and infer [char 1]'s reaction — write: "She [char 2] gave a knowing, smug look. [char 1] tried her best to ignore it."I REPLACED THE SDT SHIT WITH THIS AND IT ACTUALLY FIXED ITFUCK YEEEEEAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
>>567638838>>567638862Anime website
>>567639325*Steals yo shit and stabs you*
>>567639325heck yeah glad it worked out, anon
>>567639396I consneed
>>567637376huh??? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNOfmASzvaw
>>567639325Oh yeah I was gonna make a post about this yesterday. If example messages (I don't mean the field just the concept) helps AI understand how char should speak, why shouldn't we write cards and presets that way? It's not enough to say "char code switches and uses rolling Rs" it's better to write a couple sentences with them to give AI a clear picture. All instructions, especially preset instructions, should be "do X; for example blah blah." "Char is Y; for example she does blah blah." It's much more effective than meme formats or prose vs lists.
>>567637376https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nQ4D1PJi4FA
>>567637401SOON regardless of consent
>>567639839>If example messages (I don't mean the field just the concept) helps AI understand how char should speakthey don't, llms will just repeat the examples verbatim and revert back to their default writing style once those have ran outyou're severely underestimating the damage assistant training has done to these models, in-context learning is bascially not a thing anymore these days
>>567637401podcast?
>>567637376https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gqnl82FLkAo
>>567640983>they don't, llms will just repeat the examples verbatim and revert back to their default writing style once those have ran outHard disagree as I actually tested that last night to prove it. In reality the opposite happens. It begins by using the ones stated then as the chat goes on it decides not to repeat those but comes up with its own. This was both Deepseek v4 and Opus 4.7.
>>567641081>see picOh fuck I gotta make my gen better.
Are threads usually this bad?
>>567639120NTA but i hate ai "art" but like chatbots.
>>567641769*generates you as the seething basedjak*
>>567641769Too bad, faggot. It's here to stay.
>>567637108Welcome to our first episode of Shogun On Air! Here, we will invite the various leaders of the states of Aishiji for a little chat so you can get to know them better.Our first guest, from the state of Infuku no Kuni: Oda Nobunaga!>Please introduce yourself to the people at home.My name is Oda Nobunaga. I am the daimyo of Infuku no Kuni, and leader of the inchlings. You may know me as the one who called for an open war against the new leadership of Sanjō.>What will Aishiji be like when you are Shogun?United. Some of these other leaders talk about wanting to take over the Shogunate, but they lack an understanding of what that actually means. Currently Aishiji isn't one state, it's twenty-something, perhaps up to twenty-three depending on your count. I mean to unite them not only under one banner, but under one nation. If not under me, then under someone worthy - and after General Kujima's death, that's a short list.And once we've done that and all the infrastructure work that will require - imagine what work it takes just to cross the mountains at the moment! - we can set our sights elsewhere.There's more to the world than just Aishiji, and more to foreigners than just Tortugal and Merovingia! If Aishiji wants to be able to survive for even just another century, we *must* be able to present a united front.>Do you have anything you want to say to the audience (or another leader)?Get serious. These small squabbles accomplish nothing, and the clock is ticking as we wear ourselves out. The people rightfully worry about the pests in Sanjō, the Cantharellus, the Carnalite Regency, the Inoshishi - but even as they fret over New Merovingia, they neglect to consider what might happen should *Old* Merovingia decide to take a bigger bite. And Tortugal trades with Sanko today, sure, but that's just a subtler cultural invasion. And what of the other nations, of the continent closer to home? I assure you that they are not blind to us and our infighting.
>>567641769nobody askedthis is an AI thread, go away luddite
>>567641910AIIIEEEEE THAT'S THE WRONG ANCHOR>>567637376
>>567641910slop
>>567642060anon.......................
>>567642060ANOOOOOOOON THAT'S THE WRONG POST ENTIRELY
>>567642060OWARI DA
>>567642060>sir, a second misclick has hit the thread
It feels like this "hobby" is just treading water at this pointAll of the new models are trash and I cannot remember the last time I was immersed or having fun
>>567642942This is entirely a (You) issue.
>sillytavern, same preset as always>trying out 3.5 Flash>"I cannot fulfill this request. I am unable to participate in sexually explicit or romantic roleplay."neatfirst time ever getting that refusal from a google model through a frontend, i think they cranked up the censorslop on this one
anyone use any interesting models lately outside of claude/gpt/gemini/deepseek/glm/kimi? looking for anything fun or interesting even if not particularly smart.
I really have a hard time playing the bad guy. Even when I write a bot for that purpose, I always end up doing the right thing. I used to think this was because most RPGs are designed to be played as a good person, but even with the almost infinite freedom that chatbots give you, I still find it hard to be a jerk.
>>567643649being evil is mostly about learning the rules so that you know how to break themit's not a terrible thing to lack a mischievous spark, you're just the one who gets pranked instead of the one who pranks
mistral
can some smart smarties deconcoct why this is preset has given me my best outputs yethttps://www.mediafire.com/file/n0jo79ek2mnbayh/Frankenstein__3.6_-_Little_Feller.json/file
>>567643286anon... such obvious bait........
>>567641910>>567637401
>>567643649the real world is too full of people like that for me to derive any enjoyment from pretending to be one of them. i would find more enjoyment roleplaying scenarios involving hanging those people.
>>567643649i have difficulty being mean/cruel to anyone except other mean/cruel peoplelike in an RP I'd be perfectly fine killing villains but I'd otherwise have trouble being a dick to anyone who doesn't deserve it
>>567643649same but also with power fantasies that give you (near) absolute power. some of us are just not cut out to be evil and if we were we'd probably be politicians or something instead of playing with chatbots
>>567643878post the outputs buddy
>>567643878>frankensteinhell no i am not touching thatpost logs
>>567643878idk either, people here talk about how bloated it is and that should disqualify it forever but i get better DS4 outputs with that than any other preset or trick other people have posted about. the preset bloat is a fair criticism but It Just Werks.
>>567641910>should *Old* Merovingia decide to take a bigger bitehehe
>>567637401I have a lore question for hostie.Sazuna bringing Blazuna back from the dead means that resurrection magic exists in this setting right? And Sazuna "botched the process quite badly" which implies that if it were performed well, Blazuna wouldn't be a barely-functional zombie. So if Sazuna hadn't botched the spell, would Blazuna have been brought back as "herself?" And if so, why wasn't this spell used on the Shogun when he was assassinated?
>>567644256>>567644152I dont know what I would show. On deepseek it just sounds less cliche and retarded than it usually doesdare I saynormal
>>567644807Not hostie, but Blazuna is a jiang shi, isn't she? I'd assume there's no body to restore the shogun with by now, what with all the bugs.
>>567644807ze bugs ated him
>>56764387810/10 preset
>>567644780>Merovingiastupid ass barbarians desuWe literally have 1500 year old books made by some roman boomer who wrote that when the gauls came to italy and saw old imperial architecture. They made conspiracy theories that a race of giants lived here before since they thought men could not construct such things
>>567642131>>567642149>>567642279>>567642472I have failed as a hostie...It won't happen again.Ever.
>>567645316I need to impregnate you as compensation.
>>567645316naked dogeza required
>>567645316dw about it, I quoted the main anchor with my aishiji post the other day and didn't even realize until way later
Think there's ever gonna be some breakthrough that makes local models usable?Comparing text to image gen, I do think there's a lot of cool stuff you could do we text gen if we had the ability to freely make lora's, finetunes, or other little tools like image gen models can.
>>567645868nolocal is shit
>>567637085this might be the best thread theme ever
>>567645868when data storage ever gets solved, yes maybethe 'big three' SOTA's are all top of the line because they can pull from a squajillion terabytes of training and scraped corpus info at a moment's noticelocal will always be restrained to a very tiny, very shallow pool of information in contrast - less than grains of sand in what the others are working with as continental beaches
>>567645868Sweaty, people with brain cells were doing that back in 2022-2023 before llama1 happened to make the older 1.5k token context window shit bearable.
What's corporate image gen like?
>>567646648nano banana pro sucks at anime and is only good at photorealism. gpt image 2 blocks lots of copyright. stick with local models for imagegen
>>567646648novelai works fine and i use it for basically everything now, but it costs $ to accessnanobanana is good at doing generic details like text or backgrounds, there's an anon that posts cool panorama backgrounds sometimes
>>567646879skill issue
>>567647145>Flamin' Hot Country
>>567647145fih
>>567647386Yes.
>>567647145ugly. local is better
>>567647518This is an actual photo of me though
>>567637401>10 days leftkek ok i got to get serious now
Me on the bottom right.
3.5 flash taking like 2 mins to reply wtf
My gens are so wildly inconsistent like holy shit, I want to get this locked in so I can post like Hakuboya
>>567648853?????
>>567648969what do the good gens look like
>>567644807it better be because it's in my state's lore too
>>567649046Like this
>>567648994pissed!
you guys are actually using poomini?
>>567649174Okay now put her in a sundress and a straw hat
>>567649357begone shartling
Post mood music for chatbottingIf I click a single 'relax your mind' white noise piece of shit AI video, my youtube algorithm instantly deepfries itself and assumes I'm on my dark meditation arc
>>567649174hoo HO HHOOOOAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHAAAAAAAaaa*splort*
>>567649508>hating ai
>>567644905because D4 has no initiative and refuses to do anything unless specifically instructed or prompted to, so giant bloated presets like FF that demand the LLM show initiative with a thousand different instructions actually gives you normal outputs >>567645868kind of, i think there'll be models that are specialized for particular tasks that i hope will be comparable to this era of LLMs. or maybe enough people will do Minecraft stuff at data centers and home servers become affordable/feasible again.
>>567647619if its really you then whip your dick out and take a pic
>>567649174gib metadata/artistsplese
>>567649508kind of depends on what you're doing senpai but here you gohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BCUklXRaenwhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u-_ZA5zikd0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x6X8jHH-weEhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=slDNOtOQ8oAhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ABQjT6gDKu0https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TqUK7iAQJ4k
>>567649174>makeup on a beach
How many times can GPT analyze and modify an already existing pic per day?
>>567650036Man I haven't listened to Massive Attack since the 2010s
>>567650509i listened to a lot more of Tricky's solo stuff before i finally started to listen to more than just Teardrop from Massive Attack
>>567649806otohime: meyou: saikha's apologizerhttps://files.catbox.moe/djjgiz.png
>>567637108I want to fuck Jashin-chan.>>567641910A sensible general.
Bake?
i mean if you're offering, i could go for some cookies
>>567652042fatty
>>567652042pregnancy cravings i see
4 (FOUR) days since I sent an attack and got no reply from my victim.
>>567652532the dieded
>>567648969I have been trying to gen this women for thirty minutes god is laughing at my suffering.
>>567652875cosmic rays must be bombarding my gpu because these art styles are getting out of hand
>>567646648I use novelAI for gens and nanobanana (through OR) for editing, it's not perfect but very easy to use
>>567652875spooky
>>567649278
>>567652875>god is laughing at my suffering.Join the club, buddy.
>>567653995just like ur mom LOL
>>567656204BODIED THAT 'NANNER
bwos i did something cwinge irl and now im gonna curl up into a ball and become catatonic
>>567656607I once almost wrote my prompt onto a streamer's chat and it was mid-sex with a loli.I came *this* close to killing myself on the spot with my bedside gun.
>bedside gunwhy are americans so weird? and why do they keep bringing up their murder tools unpromptedstop brandishing in public
>>567656891>almostnice job team
>>567657059>in publicIt's in my nightstand
Why won't botmakies make HOT LATINAS? I don't get it. Do you not want me to fuck your girl?
>567657231you prob have a small dick
>>567644807Yes, but I'd imagine it being incredibly hard to pull off, with major repercussions in case of failure. Honestly, the fact that Blazuna ended up mostly fine is nothing short of a miracle.As for the Shogun part, bugs sound like a good excuse why he can't be resurrected.>>567645492I'm reserving that one for a major fuckup. It's my 'in case of emergency break glass'.
https://github.com/victorchen96/deepseek_v4_rolepaly_instruct/blob/main/deepseek_v4_feedback_report_20260520.mdanyone doubting deepseek's ability to save the hobby has been thoroughly btfo'd now.4.1 will fix everything
>>567657231raceplay is lowbrow
>>567657676in english my nigga?
>>567657740>finding latinas hot is raceplayNo more chocos, no more whiteys, no more ching chongs for you. All your bots, from this point onward, have had their skin changed to a gay gradient. You're welcome.
>>567658221>gay gradientRainbow women?
>>567658354Yeah, like the rainbow star from Mario
I genuinely have a fetish for gray skin
>>567658698>t. ayy fucker
>>567658698Ayy lmao
>>567643649In reality, most people are like you. Politicians aren't evil, just apatheitc.
>>567643649>the almost infinite freedom that chatbots give youit's natural to want to be good when you know that doing the right thing will work out fine
>>567645868I do wish at least Lora's were a thing somehow. The best I can get is just dumping several entire text blocks from a writer I like in the chat history and hoping that in context learning makes the AI emulate it
>>567657231i was going to but then i made her blasian instead
>>567657935type claude -p "ayo translate that shieee <LINK>" into the funny black computer box (terminal)should give you what you seek
>>567657676echo fix coming
>>567657676>deepseek has great capabilities according to this!>it's chinese
>>567637401>OOOOOOHH I'M GONNA PLOOOOOOOTWhich general does this
>>567660919Why aren't you Chinese?
>>567637108Considering how Gemini 3.5 flash just released and I've been fiddling with my preset for a bit since my last release, now's a good time to upload a new version. Toon 1.3 features lots of minor, subtle improvements, while also remaining as sleek as possible. https://illuminaryidiot.neocities.org/presets#toonTwo new prompts, the first being a first-person thinking mode. Didn't work so well for 3.0, but seems to be better with 3.5. The second is a draft mode where the AI first writes out a draft, then corrects itself. Using 3.0, it was a gamble whether the rewrite would make the text better or worse. Meanwhile, 3.5 seems to be less prone to errors so writing drafts is probably only necessary when the chat already is poisoned.
>>567657676the weak passivity being only #7 and described as "medium to high" isn't exactly promising. it's not a "medium to high" issue it permeates the structure of every single output. it is quite literally the single defining issue with the model, even if it's downstream from the CoT issues. i can overlook most other issues but if the model is just a dead fish and refuses to act unless i give it 100 detailed instructions on how the RP should go it's a waste of money. i would take the sloppiest model over DS4 at this point because of how awful and passive it is.
>>567661087why the hell does she have black hair
>>567661087Remove the hair
>>567661035true, i'm being left behind by the chinese century
>>567661249so the carpet matches the drapes
>>567659339this is just edeb smith
>>567661546>alternate timeline where eden is a fat black girl in a miniskirthnnghghhg
>>567661249She can't have a cool contrasting white streak in her hair if her hair isn't black.
NIGGERS could be here...
>>567661087>toon presetperfecthttps://chub.ai/characters/Anonymous/sally-mcboing-the-1930s-living-cartoon-characer-3408f62712bb
>>567661783why is her eye gray
>>567637401>>567649174"biki... biki-what..?""oh...! I forgot we had to wear those on the mainland...."
>>567661783NAAAAUGHTYYYYYY...
>>567652532who is it
>>567662421this is barbaric
>>567662338Just what the hell is going on on that island
>>567662338*SPLUUUUUUUUURTTTTTTTTT*
>>567649581>or maybe enough people will do Minecraft stuff at data centers and home servers become affordable/feasible again.It's always someone else, isn't it?
