Purging Edition>Update 13.0 patch notes:https://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/395-patch-notes-13-0>April Community updatehttps://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/387-april-community-update>Updated Year 2 Roadmap:https://i.imgur.com/p9UAyjJ.jpeg>Where to get the game:https://www.focus-entmt.com/en/games/warhammer-40000-space-marine-2>Lore Stuff:https://1d6chan.miraheze.org/wiki/Main_Pagehttps://wh40k.lexicanum.com/wiki/Main_Page>For jolly cooperation with your battle brothers (Can also post codes for jolly coop/PvP. Edit Squad -> Invite Menu):https://steamcommunity.com/groups/sm2general>Workaround with matchmaking (not finding players, only 2/3):Back out to the main menu and re-enter battle barge.>Workaround with matchmaking (defaults to waiting for players instead of looking for games)Queue for siege mode, leave the lobby and re-queue for operations.>Datasheet showing hidden difficulty modifiers for each difficulty (for easier damage reference):https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1kVvYgDBoAan98W3IjAM6ERdq-QfkCsaVvXKF5g_Q9sU/htmlview>Spreadsheet useful for damage calculation:https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HzX5LzOD8NZyOTV-BUyL8kWoLEpt-skM/>Recommended prestige perks:https://i.imgur.com/vHSeEDt.jpeg>/sm2g/ Dude Wall - Compilation of Dudes:https://dudewall.github.io/dude-wall/>/sm2g/ Phantom Links Chapter Lore:https://rentry.org/ChroniclesofPhantomLinks>Other useful links:https://pastebin.com/VZ0ryCNBPreviously on the Battle-barge: >>567763173
Lamenters did nothing wrong
Purgation feels like an underbaked mission.Like some quick end boss-less missions are fun and all but its finale seems like it's missing something.
there is no way the heroic heavy bolter isnt trash compared to the accuracy heavy bolter.
>>568141395why even use the bolter when the flamer/plasma is more consistent and kills faster
MY BROTHERS OF IRON!IT IS TIME!
I love this thing
>>568141395the heroic heavy bolter fucking blowsyou NEED the accuracy bolter if you want to shoot anything farther than 5 feet away and not miss 99% of your shotsalso the instant rof ramp pees ammo
>>568142204kbm players will do anything instead of rebinding MMB
I got the platinum and saw everything I wanted to see in November 2024 and haven't played since then. Is it worth coming back now?
>>568139360It's pretty much already the best team perk in the game so I don't know what else they could give him to compete with it. Nothing reasonable will ever be as good as turning melta bombs into a 60 second cooldown nuke ability.I think they should give it to Techmarine and let Tactical have the extra equipment charge perk.
>>568143420Swap the Techmarine's equipment perk with Tact's Secure Stockpile.
blessed brother dudewall anon, requesting update to my dude Ultramarine #2 in the top row
>100 games for the cape>its not retroactive Are they fucking insane.
>>568145093they said they're going to hotfix it to be less
>>568143420>>568143960Every single HP, ammo and item regen skill should be deleted and replaced. Maps should have far more of all three on them. Fuck just add a helldivers 2/DRG style call-in for supplies. They even have the right drop pods for it this time
>>568144576Received.
>>568145198Even 50 games would be fucking insane, if its anything more than 10 after all this time since its not retroactive they're retarded.
>crash twice on wave 16 siege so no rewards>go do mission 12 because i realized i haven't cleared it yet>crash at the part with valtusfor the love of god I just want to finish SOMETHING today
>>568145093>Are they fucking insane.The entire thing is borderline nuts. No retroactive unlock.... I'm not surprised people took to manually adding the numbers themselves with CE. I have no idea what Saber were smoking when they green lit those ordeals. >>568145353Even 10 is already pushing it considering the awards aren't THAT amazing beyond them being well.... new. But to make it an actual ordeal to unlock doing all those ops, that's really ironic.
>>568145843The entire ordeal system is moronic. This game needed 2 progression systems only. Credits and XP and that's it. SM2 is a template to over-design damaging the experience.
>>568145978>>568145843accolades are honestly worse I hate being timegated so much
>Stalk game since 2024.>Only really like IH so no IH pack no buy>Pack finally comes out so buy pack on sale>Start up game. Can't wait to play as an Iron fath->See this....Why can I only play story?
>>568147117mandatory tutorial
>>568147117you unlock operations mode after the intro
>>568147117mandatory tutorial, it's pretty cool though. I found the entire campaign to be fun
Will I be skinned alive for wearing a Dark Angels cosmetic on my Black Templar
>>568147117The campaign is the only good part of this gamet. 500 hours in coop
>>568147730No. Robes are cool
>Every single siege change is shitThe part I liked most was in-between waves getting fucking blasted at a terminal by the map condition that spawns explosives underneath you. Very intelligent design to not pause it. Why did they even fucking add these effects. They're not fun. Fucking SM1 siege mode was not only better, it was also more fairly challenging. Hell ill take Last Stand over this.
>>568147730We are allegedly getting robes as a separate cosmetic for some of the classes next patch. So you might not need to eventually.
>>568147257>>568147328>>568147529>>568147736How long must I endure the mandatory ultramarine gameplay? This faggot still has org*ns
>>568150952I think you mean ultrabased gameplay
>>568136309>Objective shit tier autokick and autoban listBlack Templars, Imperial Fists, Space Wolves, White Scars, meme/puke colourways, players with non-chapter compliant Muhreens, players with mismatched and too much bling, XboxniggersThe objective best players with almost no shitters are Ultramarines, no not the default newbs.
let this general survive until the upcoming weekly with the double and stronger terminus stratthen we all go back to /coopg/
>>568150952maybe 20 minutes? I don't remember the tutorial taking long
https://streamable.com/5xwf14https://streamable.com/x5yfrz
AT LASTWhat should my loadout be bros?
>>568152962Does my blue boy pass the test?
>>568154420I'm sorry I'm a retard meant for >>568152829
>>568154114You know what fuck you guys I'm asking a real expert
If you don't bring a Techmarine with a max turret build in hard siege mode you're not clearing wave 15 since Valtus hits like a pillow now.That Techmarine also has to save a ton of points to buy tons of turrets for the triple Terminus enemies.
Im so fucking tired.
>>568154114i still havnt bothered to play this guy. and they took my pimple shoulders from me
>>568156268Consultation of the silicone and steel at the expense of faith and flesh will lead to your downfall Just maximize your equipment or ability damage, the sentries spawn in fixed locations and more often than not you're not going to kill everything before you can activate them
>>568156475Do the turrets stay on the map?
>>568157040No they get blown up within a minute with large wave 15 waves.That's why a max turret build is mandatory, the explosion fucks up the attacking wave and takes half of the Terminus boss' HP. Your team should also camp near turrets for that perk.
>>568157040for five minutesthey spawn at the requisition terminal you buy them fromthey will disintegrate terminus if allowed to shoot
>>568157253>>568157283So it's bulwark, vanguard, techmarine? Or is it techmarine, heavy, vanguard?
>>568157953Tactical, Techmarine and VanguardHard siege mode throws a ton of Extremis enemies it's imperative to have a Vanguard with Extremis healThe Bulwark doesn't do much damage or heals fast enough like the VanguardThe Tactical is there to auspex every large mob and every Terminus boss
>>568156475>If you don't bring a Techmarine with a max turret build in hard siege mode you're not clearing wave 15I mean it's not *that* hard. I completed it playing pyreblaster Tac with a level 1 Techmarine who kept dying and a Bulwark who was marginally more competent, but yeah you'll want to minmax the fuck out of your team if you're going beyond that. By the end of my run I was seeing Raveners eating melta bombs without dying. It's way overtuned.
>>568157953Required is Tact + Vanguard for infinite equipment and healing on kills. The third slot can be a wild card.
just found out tact's auspex on parry triggers his other perk that reduced auspex cd by 50% when you use it on an extremis. the slavs must have coded it to actually restore 50% of your ability
>>568160526It's the best perk on that column anyway
First mission on minimal against tsons. How'd I do?
>>568161264no idea, i have no clue what good minimal stats should look like
>>568161264You're not supposed to facetank all the damage this will not work on higher diffs. Look up how balance, block, and fencing parry works as it's very important but isn't explained at all in game.
>>568162301With how many times PvE has been updated, it may as well be a completely different game compared to the Campaign>No Tzaangor Enlighteneds>No Chaos Spawn>No Biovores>No Block mechanicsNo idea why Saber hasn't added some fucking tips and explanations in the mandatory loading screens we have to sit through.
I hate the powerfist...
>>568165705>i hate the best melee weapon in the gamewhy?
>>568165569Russian mentality, you have to suffer and figure shit out by yourself or by looking guides online.
>>568165705I love fisting.
Just beat hard siege weekly, you want the Mutalith Vortex beast on wave 15 instead of 3 Helbrutes or 3 Tyraniggers...Just bring a Techmarine and buy turrets.
>>568165754Nta but it's boring.>>568165893Fisting is 300 req.
>finally decide to test heavy's weapons in the battle simulator>shoot at an absolute helbrute until gun overheats>heroic heavy plasma gets 540 damage in 5 seconds>rate of fire heavy plasma gets 622 damage in 7 seconds>heavy flamer gets 819 damage in 13 seconds, afternburn ends at second 22 and leaves it at 1020 damage>accuracy heavy bolter gets 362 damage in 9 seconds from fully automatic center mass fire, 453 damage in 11 seconds from controlled bursts at the swaying head>vent heavy bolter gets 739 damage in 18 seconds from fully automatic center mass fire>damage heavy bolter gets 452 damage in 8 seconds from fully automatic center mass fireThe heavy bolter needs fucking help guys, he is not ok.
B3R7E
>>568166459Can you still get triple terminus on wave 15? Both times I've reached wave 15 sincethe update I got the Hive Tyrant which is substantially easier to deal with than two Carnifexes and a Neurothrope.
>>568167007Yes but only the base Terminus enemies, if you're fighting anything but a Helbrute, Neurothrope and Carnifex you only get one.The Mutalith Vortex Beast and Trygon are the easiest, the former you need as many turrets, guardsmen with a commissar to remove all other Chaosniggers on the map.
I enjoy plasma.
>>568166980what is this?
>>568166823Have 600, two handed.
>>568167351Absolutes.
>>568167226Common shots actually doing something has been nice.
>>568166929The best way to fix the Bolters is to remove the headshot multiplier and bring the base damage up
>>568165754Charged heavy spam is boring and the executions aren't that good, thunder hammer and power sword are way more fun. The 360 hammer spin execute is so satisfying.
I feel like the Minotaurs are not codex compliant
>>568167912The game being about headshot has been a travesty since day one. Its a fucking Warhammer 40k game, we're fucking space marines. Why the fuck should i aim for headshots to do any damages
>>568168272Space Marines always aim for headshots since they're technically all perfect shots.
>>568168231The last time I saw a minotaur they kept shooting me with the friendly fire modifier
>>568168410I don't give a fuck this is gay
>>568168823Can't tell if extremely based or cringe.
>>568169009I was a Lamenter if that helps
>>568168410They have infinitely better recoil control than we do in this game.
people are really running custom games just to get a cape when they can simply wait for saber to lower the win conditionswhat a bunch of retards lolimagine grinding 600 games when the next update will only make it 60 or 30 kek
>>568166929I boughted the heroic heavy bolter yesterday and grinded it's weapon tree I liked it more than the heroic heavy plasma atleast, damage doesn't feel that lagging behind and easier to defend myself because of the fencing parry and insta cooling on gunstrikeI have an easier time playing Heavy than Assault so maybe i am that dumb
ive been enjoying the accuracy smg this patch
>>568169078
>>568169912oh wait its the ammo variant, it feels so accurate i forgot. the reaload on gunstrike is awesome with the +25% damage on gunstrike perk.
>>568169912Is the accuracy carbine the only one that has accurate hip fire? Does this apply to the new one for bulwark and assault? I thought only the heroic bolter pistol had non dogshit hipfire.
>>568169842I think the anons that altered the values on their own to get the capes are the only real winners here
>>568170363There's a Cheathappens CE table that gives you most of the ordeals by putting the exact win total and you only have to load an active Absolute game to unlock stuff, only the siege ones haven't been found yet.
>>568170304>Is the accuracy carbine the only one that has accurate hip fire?No, a lot of weapons are if you take the -50% hip fires spread perk. accuracy variants are always more accurate. Some of the weapons like the regular bolt pistol and auto bolts rifle and smg are designed to be fired from the hip and are actually less accurate when aiming down sights. regular bolt rifle and heavy bolt rifle are decently accurate
>>568169842>make it 60 or 30 kekIf it isnt 5 or lower then its a waste of fucking time. How do you losers have enough time for what is currently SIX hundred games at 15 bare minimum minutes a pop.
>>568169912Using anything but the flamer on Tact is trolling. Genuinely a waste of time, especially now that the new plasma pistol replaces every single primary he has for single target nuking.
Look. All I am saying is that the second Salamanders champion pack better be for heavy. Otherwise I might just burn a few thousand children to death.
>>568170910Pyreblaster is old newsDouble plasma is back
>>568170910His top 3 weapons were always Plasma, Stalker, and Pyro.
>>568169879Heroic heavy bolter has worse ranged performance than any relic heavy bolter so it's definitely lagging behind the heroic heavy plasma by a lot.
why can't you dodge out of heavy stance
>>568171172I dunno, sure as fuck i am not liking any of the other bolters thougWind up time and worse defense, harder to deal with everything>rangedWhat ranged anyways, shit going to swarm fhe fuck out of me no matter what
>>568171030>>568171120Waste of time, you've clearly not used the new plasma pistol.
BiS primary for Heavy?
>>568171120>top 3If you consider Pyre S rank and the other two F rank sure.
>>568171512Heroic heavy plasma > heavy plasma > Pyrecannon > Multimelta > heavy bolter > heavy bolt rifle
>>568171512Melee
>>568171512Weapon I like > Weapon you like
>>568171574Relic Plasma > yeah that is just it, every single fucking weapon it hasAll his main heroic sucks way too muchPyrocannon is a travesty and even got nerfed lmaoMelta is pointless outside ruthless too>>568171426Stop playing ruthless and below and you will see how the heavy bolter either needs a full rework or be removed from the game so it doesn't bait shitters into playing objecticely garbage in my absolutes, siege and hard strat making everything harder because you are playing garbage that needs 200+ ammo for a majoris
>>568171426Most of the time I'm using a heavy bolter I'm getting at least top ranged damage on the team and zero melee damage even with how subpar the weapon category is.
https://youtu.be/KvfA3WU6f_IReddit Guardman say the Heroic Heavy Bolter is overall the best weapon for Heavy
I use bolter on tacI use bolt pistol on tacI use combat knife on tac
>>568172376This shitter NEVER plays Hard Strat, NEVER does SiegeOnly Absolute and any monkey with enough practice can do thatMeanwhile someone like Hazeman who DOES Hard Siege and Hard Strat curiously enough never reccomend anything but the Fire rate RELIC (not Heroic) Heavy Plasma as only truly viable Heavy main weapon
IDK heroic heavy bolter is pretty good. Might be a skill issue on your end.
There are like 5 heavy regular players in the entire playerbase but his weapons and class are totally fine right
>>568172376>dominate hard strat>showcase a regular absolute
>>568173236Class is fucking shit. Like, how do you make the BIG GUNS PEW PEW class and give it so little ammo and no good way to regen ammo unless you already max difficulty with a prestig'd character.
>>568173236Most of his issues stem from ammo economy being absolutely dogshit and no melee to make up for it
>>568173236Tact is the heavy class, heavy is the melee aoe class
>Siege>Buying turrets>No one staying near them>No one getting the 20% damage buff/30% damage reduction buff>Not even in the vague area of both of them, in areas they cant attack40k players are morons.
>>568173236hes just not fun to play. hes too easy
>>568174276This specimens this IP attracts is unlike anything else I have seen.
>>568174051>>568174165Ammo regen is actually not one of it's problem reallyIt's arsenal being just made of trash weapon kills itIt's perks being outdated it's shitIt's shit melee is a bigger problem than ammosHeavy stance literally too outdated and flawed for hard content is a problemIt's class skill literally does nothing for the teamIt's a class for masochists
>>568174541See what I mean? >>568174684
>>568174276Worse than bots
>>568174761Are you implyning heavy is fine?
>>568175490No he could be better but I also think you're bad at the game and don't understand how heavy works.
>>568172376I'm really not feeling that.https://streamable.com/d40rbt>heroic heavy bolterhttps://streamable.com/iwib2e>vent heavy bolterhttps://streamable.com/fsm25x>heroic heavy plasmahttps://streamable.com/vx3lof>heavy flamer
>>568176051It doesn't work, that's the thing
>>568176104Yeah which is why I can solo carry absolute with heavy plasma, multimelta, or heroic heavy bolter.
>>568176051I see no point in playing Heavy when Techmarine and Tact do basically the same job but miles better with more team benefitsHeavy isn't even that "tankier"
>>568170910Have you actually tried using the heroic plasma pistol with the pyreblaster? Your only long range option being a slow charging glob that you want to save for big groups or single target damage is not fun.
>>568176351don't waste your time, its one retard who keeps trying to pretend heavy is shit because he can't aim
>>568171371Why can't you just let go of ADS and dodge? I've never understood this complaint. Don't tell me you use toggle ADS.
>>568176051I am a heavy fag, who maxed it first and it would be my number 1 choice even in SM1 its all I played, but it is undeniably the most shit class now even-more-so than Assault which is saying a fucking lot. But at least Assault can up gun strike damage and deliver a nuke every once and a while (or near infinitely in Siege). Every other class has powercreeped too hard for him. At best you can pop a 10%+25% range damage reduction for your team for a short while, but even that pops under a breeze. To get ammo back you have to go out of ammo which is insane compared to Tact who can just infinitely recover in any situation. Its just retarded. The only thing I can think of to make him better is firstly copy Tacts ammo regen perk, and secondly charge his last signature perk so on a full drain of your shield you regenerate your allies perk, at least then you might have a use case with Bulwarks and double banners.
>>568177136Skill issue.
Damn it, why doesn't the Tactical get any of the White Scars' champ's bolt colored arms and legs?
>>568172113>Relic PlasmaExplain in detail why it's better than the heroic because every time I try to use the RoF relic variant I run out of ammo so goddamn fast even when I'm trying to be conservative.
>>568176083yeah even for his specific shit where he only does solo absolutes and thus is constantly parrying its still not better than nuking entire packs at once with heavy plasmaHeroic heavy plasma is the simplest all rounder, charge rate heavy plasma is the best aside from ammo management, heavy flamer does nasty boss damage, accuracy heavy bolter can reliably DPS down threats at range and multi-melta is perma staggeryou'd have to be actively walking into melee every encounter for the ramp up speed to be that much better than any of those
>>568177609Charge shot mini nukes > rapid fire globesEven more so when you can't dodge while stanced to rapid fire globs so you are more exposed to eat shit while being actually slower at dealing damage than just charge your ballsSimple as that
>>568177229I know. Thats why I am being obtuse and condescending.
>>568172376FTG has to pretend this game has more viable build variety than it actually does so he can keep churning out these slop build guides. He literally makes these videos live on stream and then cuts up the VoD into what you see there. It's the lowest effort shit imaginable.
>>568177609it puts out way, way more DPS, both against single targets and groups, while its big malus actually lessens in higher difficulty stuff where you get so many spawns (or modifiers) that you consistently get ammo
>>568176083>10 second difference from best to worse Unintentionally showing the guns are balanced lol
First actual mission failure. Made it all the way to ruthless and failed to lethal. Not bad for guy who just got the game today In hindsight though should have taken the nigger space wolf assault trying to speedrun the mission and not kill anything as a red flag. Lethal became that guy on steroids.Why would I take headshot increase by 10% when I can take all damage increase by 10%?
>>568177136Nigga I play assault and end matches with under 1000 ranged damage. This shit ain't nothing new to me.
>>568178275It's more like 20 seconds between the heavy bolters and the other weapons, which is a significant amount of time in combat at high difficulty.There's also the fact that the heroic plasma and heavy flamer are just infinitely better against groups of enemies but are still managing to focus down one of the most powerful single targets faster than the heavy bolters.The heavy bolters would actually benefit from a massive DPS increase so that they fill a niche as heavy's single target DPS option, they're just so mediocre right now, they always have been.
>>568178296Because headshots do more damage so its 10% of a higher number
is double edged relic better than white scars chainsword?
>>568179060But aren't headshots still damage? Therefore getting the 10% for everything still ffects my headshots? Or does 10% on my damage just mean everything that's not a headshot?
>>568179952it adds 10% to the base damage of the weapon which gets multiplied by the headshot amount instead of the headshot amount being 10% higher.Body shots do 0 dmg on bolt weapons so you always wanna take the headshot perks
>>568179952Body shots are misses in this game. Only head clicking matters.
Whats the best assault weapon now?
>>568180321Combi melta
>>568176083Also in case anyone was wondering about the multi-melta.https://streamable.com/4jvqqs
>>568180071>it adds 10% to the base damage of the weapon which gets multiplied by the headshot amount instead of the headshot amount being 10% higher.yes but he's asking why wouldn't that be the same amount of effective headshot damage
>>568180403listen here you little shit
>>568180607>THE anti-armor weapon>A complete fucking menace in the tabletop>haha tickle tickle! Im sorry but anyone who thinks this is 40k is retarded. This game is a fucking abomination of bad russian vodka and potato shits, nothing makes any sense, the progression is terrible, the post release support is malicious and none of these weapons operate as they should.
>>568180790headshot boost is multiplicative with headshots while normal damage boost is additive to base damage
>>568180990>This game is a fucking abomination of bad russian vodka and potato shitsTo be fair, this specific depiction is merely a continuation of how relic designed meltaguns in space marine 1.It's still on them for not properly depicting meltaguns but they are merely following the prequel.
>>568181215and space marine 1 is just copying how they did meltas in DoW 2 of being a burst of heat instead of stream but balanced like a shotgun instead of a power weapon instagibbing whatever it touched (which sm1 honestly needed with how many fucking nobs and CSM it threw at you)
any absolute enjoyers?
>>568143360If you like the gameplay loop, yes, lots of stuff to do
Join me, doing Normal siege 15 wavesQPQI9
>>568170971They did not fuck up by making the IH champion a tactical or some shit, so I have hope
A fun fact of Heavy is the Duelist prestige perkAs of Saber own words btw>Duelist prestige perk only works with Block type weapon, this is intended, yes we should specify in the future Btw all Heavy weapons have Balance window except for the heroic heavy bolter which is FencingHeavy is the only class in the game with a prestige perk that it straight out cannot possibly activate
>>568172381Based and codexpilled
>>568173054Metafags are in a hell of their own making
>>568181427They were a short lived jet rather than a cone shaped wave in that game.
>>568182767hence why i said>but balanced like a shotgun instead of a power weaponthey're still a wave of heat, one is just a single target lance instead of an AoE wedge, instead of being a stream of molten flow like a single target flamer in DoW 1
>>568182718It's not ok to defend a weapon that lags 20 seconds in a vacuum behind anything else
some of these players are so much worse than bots, I can solo absolute bosses and all just fine. But with these fucking apes I am struggling, between getting friendly grenaded and a fucking helbrute spamming heavy shots at me because they can't finish it off at 1 hp. I just don't understand how these monkeys can boot up the computer with so few brain cells
>>568184861>Siege is super simple>Buy an admech on each terminal with your 200 points>dump that into turrets, IG, IG support >People sit on their points instead doing fuck all This is why SM1 is better, it was so simple even a retard couldn't fuck it up for you.
>>568184954>siegehomie I ain't playing that shit, these sex pests are throwing on absolute. I am gobstruck by their ability to fuck up
>>568141970Whatever formula they've changed regarding headshot damage over bodyshot damage, in an attempt to make bodyshots better, has just made headshot weapons infinitely better. Seriously, go take a maxed out accuracy Bolt Rifle against Tyranids, the thing fucking shreds domes. This applies to the Stalker, Marksman Bolt Carbine, Instigator etc.Meanwhile the Plasma Incinerator with Plasma Boost is still taking 3 charged shots to put enemies into execute state. Yet despite this weapon still sucking ass, the Volkite Pistol had its explosion increased notably, and it melts through enemies with the bodyshot changes.
>>568144576Use Death Guard Green for your eyes. That's the correct color for sergeants using the Codex red helm and we finally got it.
Do you guys run one chapter for all classes or have a different chapter per class
>>568186883Different chapter
>>568186883One chapter, but I try to have each one be in a different company and rank
>>568186883I pick a chapter I think best suits the class.
so how to heroic heavy plasma? Just unload daka in general direction of the enemy?
>wave 14 normal>host migrationJUST
>>568187370Spray at minoris, direct hits for anything else.
>>568187359>IH>Not techmarine>fleshtearers>a powerfist
>>568188328Why let a sword rip your enemies when the execution for the power fist has you rip them in half?
>>568186883everyone is a iron warrior
I have decided I no longer care about the meta, I am running thunder hammer bulwark
This new smg fucking sucks. Even when I max out on ammo I'm still shit out of luck, can't regain contested health and die to the same FUCKASS Soulreaper + Helbrute combo.
>>568188328>IHSons of medusa are just iron hands that are even more buddy buddy with mars and got exiled for their belief in esoteric fortune telling.>fleshtearers>a powerfistYeah.
>>568186883latter
>did the normal 15 wave run last night before I went to bed, took nearly a fucking hour>check today, don't have the blue doritosFucking hell, they actually made it so you have to be there from the very start to actually earn them. You could show up halfway through the first wave and it won't count.
>>568190315Host migration also fucks you out of the doritos.
>spend all my req trying to get a good atonement>on my last reroll get armour malfunction, relatively negligible>fucking retard dumbass nigger teammate rerolls it to strike out
>>568191820Same but the reduced vision atonement.A shocking amount of people treat this like it's the worst modifier in the game, it's literally one of the least punishing ones.
>>568095387I just didn't feel like it. I only lurk generals I play all the time. I got bored of SM2 for that time. I saw people posting in /coopg/ about SM2, but had nothing to add
>>568193039I've poked around /coopg/ a little bit here and there, and it feels like it's just a Darktide general they don't want to actually name as such
No i will not play Siege
>>568193815>and it feels like it's just a Darktide general they don't want to actually name as suchDon't tell them that, they insist that's not true.
>Actually fun to use melee weaponsArgent EdgeDeath's GraspStorm's DominionWhite Scars ChainswordBlock Power AxeBlock Power Fist>ShitEverything else
3 fucking chaos dailies.Aus code where?
>>568195176They can tweak balanced as much as they want, the reality is nobody wants to deal with that startup delay.>Fencing players can happily argue they'll trade melee damage for maximum defense and safety against hordes, and they're completely right because they have options to counteract the low melee damage>Block players can happily argue you not being able to block on reaction is a skill issue, and even if it gets dicey when there's a gorillion enemies on screen, the damage is worth it, and they're right to argue that>Not a single Balanced player is going to give you any viable alternative for the negative of being cucked by a 166ms delay in being able to parry in exchange damage barely above stacked Block
>>568195439Aus code here.XG2DU
>>568186095ehh nah it looks bad, way too yellow
>>568195562This is literally why the heroic heavy bolter is overall heavy best weaponFencing parry window,Plasma Incinerator is balance cucked on a class with shit melee that can't literally unfuck itself if swarmed
>>568196103New code pls
>>568198025Uhhh
>>568198081Real fucking epic man. I literally can't see shit and couldn't even gun strike and I was previously pov0 until an execution.Welp, have fun soloing the beast.
>>568198025I just sent you a friend request. Accept it and hopefully I can invite you.
Well, PSA to /sm2g/. Saber have apparently made it so you can't rejoin a stratagem in progress if you leave. So if something in your game fucks up and you think you can fix it by leaving and rejoining, too bad, you're just gonna have to tough it out.Also me and anon trying to figure out how to get him back in ran down the clock enough that I didn't have enough time to kill the Vortex Beast on my own, maximising my time wasted. Fuck this piece of shit I'm playing Vermintide.
ausgods still on?
>>568199469I'm still down but the other is understandably out.
>>568199469Sorry m8, the Vortex incident caused me to fill my nappy and now I'm playing Vermintide with some friends.
>>568199880>>568199910haven't been far behind you in that regard but I wouldn't mind going for a few
>>568200307Guess I can host the dailies. ZGBAA
Plasma Incinerator needs a helping hand god damn. Give it a heroic full auto common shot version or something.
>>568203680I still reckon pyre's better. I have more fun with it.
>Come back after break due to patch.>IH shit looks amazing.>Bolters... good? Bolters the same.>New map is zzzzzzz>They took the doritos out of stratagems and slapped them into nusiege and added a fuckton of bugs that might cuck you out of them at any point.>Best Siege strats involve tarantula and guard spam.Guess I'm learning Techmarine after finishing his levelling. What's the best thing to use on him for Absolute? I did enjoy playing him but fuck me does it feel bad when the run wipes and you have less than 100 damage taken.
ggz m8heretic status: purged
Today's list of bugs from 4 runs:POV breakingLobby breakingUnable to charge plasma gunPlatform in new mission shoving people offPlatform not returning to the start so someone is stuckWater ball enemy flying up the cliff and hitting said guy that's stuckAssault's jetpack always on so I can't see shit>>568207592gg mate. Fuck Chaos.
If we die again, I'd prefer if we went to /vm/ than /coopg/
>>568213698Yeah, fuck /coopg//vm/ should be SM2's home until SM3, if it disappears due to inactivity its okayThere's only cosmetics for the rest of the year
>>568213698It would have been nice to have some crossposting between SM2 and Darktide, but /coopg/ at this point might as well be a dedicated DT general. No one really felt like posting there, even if our own thread is a bit slow I would much rather try to keep this one alive. I don't give half a shit if the thread is on /vg/ or /vm/, as long as we have our little autism corner
AN ANGEL OF BAAL
>>568215014FURY OF SANGUINIUS
the only reason to keep this general alive for one more week is because there's a double and stronger terminus weekly in a few daysthe last thread was alright for a mid update
New plasma gun is really good against Chaos, especially when you're not perk gimped with the loadout changes.
assault is p good actually, lvl 19 with relic balance powerfist not even full weapon perks
>>568214524Not only that /sm2g/ is comfy. Every time I go posting in /coopg/ now I feel like I gotta wade through fifty posts of /pol/tard bullshit just to get to people actually talking about videogames.
>>568206315full auto bolters got a decent buff since they increased base bodyshot damage by 30% I've been tearing up absolute no problem with the bolt carbine on vanguard
>>568189001>got exiled for their belief in esoteric fortune telling>When they could just trust in the sacred calculus like aa normal ferrus fearing IH.Sounds like you were banished for a reason anon.
>>568213698I'm guessing /vm/ is just generally slower?
>>568217081They spend more time bickering than talking about games
>>568218597/vm/ is the retirement home of /vg/ essentially.
>>568218597I don't see the issue honestly, who cares if it's slower
>>568218089>When they could just trust in the sacred calculusThat's the thing, the fortune telling is based on measurable patterns in the astronomican's light that they can seemingly use to predict future events. And they do in fact seem to possess a level of prescience that cannot be dismissed as luck, they often benefit greatly from it on the strategic and tactical level.
>>568216996Plasma was always my preferred weapon against Chaos as Tactical because headshots were going to be inconsistent with rubric's tiny heads, flying tzaangors, and varied chaos spawn "heads"
>new map absolute>hellbrute spawn on a literal platform>2 terminators with rocket launcher down in the fucking lake artillery strike with no fucking place to dodgewhat a fucking amazing map
>>568217898Yeah, when they buffed Kraken I swapped my Tac loadouts to Headshot Bolt Rifle, Carbine, and Stalker and had a pretty good time but trying to actually do Siege has me back on the flamer again. I'm honestly more interested in running Techmarine than that for my doritos.
60 waves and I still get base white/red/blue skins for most weapons, no green purple or yellow. What a bullshit and a waste of time. I don't think I'll ever subject myself to such a run ever again. Not to mention performance being all over the place at those higher stages.... truly grim
>>568220752how long were you in this match? the stacking enemy buff must've been insane
>>568220752How'd you manage it? I'm having a hard time not getting fucked by wave 15 on hard siege.
Man I fucking suck ass at this game, it's disheartening as fuck.
>>568222141post a code, let's suck together.
I dunno what to say, i have a much easier time with the bolter than the plasma on my Heavythe heroic plasma cannon is forever in 0 ammo mode and doesn't really feel like that stronger either
>>568222141What's giving you trouble cousin? There is plenty to bitch about but there are innumerable ways to improve.
>>568223319Eliminating an entire group of idle warriors with 2 charged shots is why I prefer the heavy plasma.
Just got my first (and probably last) cape. Wayyyyyy too much grind
>>568224890They will probably either make the grind a single one or reduce it to 50 or some shit, there is no way they will leave it as it is
Couldn't clear Absolute with Assault or Bulwark but could with Heavy....
>>568225921>50>6 classesCall me a malcontent but that's still to high. Between 5 to 10 would be "okay".
>>568224890Sweet drip. Also sell me on White Scars. I've been a BA stan for a long time now but I'm considering other chapters especially after getting my hands on that WS Chainsword.
>>568225981>tactical with the new heroic plasma pistol literally powercreeps Heavy and Sniper out of the gamewhat even is the point of playing classes they refuse to rework?Sniper sure, still okBut Vanguard and Heavy are just sad
>>568226108I think so too, but we are talking about retarded vatniks here, I am being pessimistic/realistic
>>568225921>>568226108Yeah 10 would by my maximum acceptable number because that's still a conservative 30 hours of playtime. That's assuming every absolute is a win and they take an average of half an hour each.
>Never ever saw a White Scars player prior to this update>Now they're everywhere just because of the HeroicPosers, the lot of you.
>>568226371Vanguard will always be good so long as Unmatched Zeal still exists.Sniper is fine outside of siege just because he can straight up delete most problems from the game outright between HBSR+Power Knife/Argent Edge for nids or Carbine+Block Knife for Chaos.You got me on Heavy but he at least has okay survivability and team utility.
>>568226926You take that back
>>568226926I just play a Blood Raven and run around with whatever Heroic i feel like. Its funny.
>>568226950>at least has okay survivability and team utility.he has none of that lol
>>568223642I'm just trying to play techmarine and getting good with the axe, it's not singing to me.
>>568226926My excuse is that I was waiting for the heroic but for the short while I did think about pulling the trigger when the heroic fencing knife came out.
>>568227676The omnissian axe?Take the bottom tree for the weapons perk and just swing + explosion + dodgeAlso save your gunstrike for when you're fully charging the an explosion to stagger an enemy into eating a full charge explosion.I use a melee damage amp build for Techmarine so I want a fencing variant, which the heroic variant has so I use that and make use of the rush move as well.
>>568227869>Take the bottom treeOh, I've been using the upper tree.
brothers, why the fuck is this happening
>>568228112Chaos
>>568228112>Kadaku now has its own designated Detroit-like area
bulwark is worse than heavy
>>568227420
>>568228112The taint of Slaanesh
need the new helmet for my minoboy
>Log in>All 3 hard daily are chaos>Log outNo, thanks
>>568228112The warp is overtaking your GPU.
>>568228110A fully charged rush attack can be fun but you're going to be hitting one or two targets at the end with respectable damage. I personally found it incredibly prone to getting interrupted.The explosion's radius is fucking enormous, fast as fuck, and you can dodge out of the animation quicker than you can dodge out of a single swing. The omnissian axe's regular swings are fucking clunky that you generally never want to be swinging more than once when the explosion is its entire goal.
>>568228367>AWAKEN MY JETBIKE
Why is every higher level jop just some vanguard/assault dickwad running away to try to solo everything?
Bros... which one do I pick?
>>568228367Fucking kek, thanks brother, I will keep this
>>568229317unflinching focus
>>568227676Techmarine's squishy as fuck so I don't blame you for struggling. You're basically forced into Balance weapons just to make sure you have enough melee damage to make your ammo last and have a way to get gunstrikes off.>OmniaxeFencing is fine just because the Omniaxe makes you play like a gambling addict fishing for full charges but Balance works best for, again, damage. Imo it's probably his weakest melee option outside of normal knives.>Power AxeSpec top build because gunstrikes are your bread and butter. Balance axe lets you do both gunstrikes and it has enough cleave to get that armor regen node, otherwise Fencing is okay just for gunstrike fishing and safety but don't take the armor node if you go with it.>Power Sword.Unironically probably the best user of Xenophase for the giga cleave, Balance enabling Gunstrikes, and the uniquely safe route into Whirl that Techmarine gets.(Perfect parry > Light 1 > hold+gunstrike > Power Whirl.) Dependant on having the heroic. Fencing sword makes you hit like a wet noodle so you're stuck with Balance unfortunately.>KnifeArgent Edge is your only option but it's a good one. Safe as hell, enables funny Techmarine specific bullshit(Perfect Parry > Charge Shadowstab > Gunstrike > Release) and its only downside is that it fucking sucks for cleave but that's fine you can run an Inferno or Plasma Pistol.Aside from that, Techmarine's primaries are all headshot bolters and his traits play into that. You can run 'nade launcher bolters but understand you're giving up sheer single target DPS for decent but limited AoE. Don't even try to run the Plasma Incinerator you'll run dry on the first majoris pack and then be cucked forever.As for talents, best option is sniper servo gun. The safety you get from deleting an entire extremis wave is incredible and it's the one thing I've seen outside of Tactical shenanigins that can 100 to dead a Neurothrope immediately upon spawn.But yeah. Tech is good he just has a glass jaw.
>>568229317Unflinching focus
>>568214524Yeah, it's not that I don't like Darktide, I play it too, but since /coopg/ is just it and is so fast you basically need to dig through dozens of DT posts to find SM2 one, which will be ignored anyway.I'm fine with slow threads, just prefer to have dedicated SM2 corner
>>568229317>Unflinching>Furious Gunstrike>Chained HeadshotsLast one is up to you but I took Volatile Sentry for fun.
>>568229512The overall changes to ranged damage does mean Techmarine is in a better place than he was for ammo. I highly recommend the ammo version of the Bolt Rifle and the ammo version of the Volkite Pistol. I've not struggled at all on Absolute with these two weapons, not in damage output or ammo scarcity.
>>568228367>jaghatai's bizarre adventure
>>568229317Look up the guide from the OP, I think at least for Telorian it's still pretty viable: https://i.imgur.com/vHSeEDt.jpeg
Warhammer 40,000 damage. Heroic heavy bolter is pretty alright.
>>568229317>OperationsChained Headshots, Unflinching Focus, Stimm Boost, Furious Gun Strike>Siege (lol)Stimm Boost, Volatile Sentry, Blast Radius, Defensive Stance
>>568230287whats your build for it? i struggle to breach the 20k hard but maybe for 30k or even 40k i need to be the guy that somewhat isn't the ultimate shitter of the group
>>568226115I like the idea of space mongols and their color scheme is pretty. That's it.No really lore wise they don't have anything going for them (at least in the more current timeline) other than being side notes or punching bags.
>>568229839Ammo Volkite is nice. I like running it on Vanguard because one pop usually puts a majoris in grapnel execute range but thematically it's great on Techmarine. As for the bolters I just like running max headshot damage between the regular bolter and the Occulus. You can't beat the time to kill and being able to cuck 'thropes is worth sacrificing grenade launchers.
>>568231156Any day now, the khan's going to pop out of a random webway portal.
>Hard siege weekly>Level 4 no prestige assault>Level 18 4th prestige vanguard with the cape, meaning he cheated it in>Try again>Level 19 no prestige bulwark who goes down 5 seconds into wave 3Is this just going to be like this forever?
>>568136309Black templars and it's not even closeWell maybe it's neck and neck with this black and red legion I keep seeing bumbling around
>>568231912Game recently went on sale for bigly in the skulls event, and people will always be inexplicably bad so yeah
According to the updated roadmap we're due for just one more update this year. I imagine that's still subject to change.>6 new heroics and new the Terminator Sorcerer>PvP updatesWe might be in for another long wait until a new mission. Like 50 runs of a class sounds pretty doable in light of the previous drought before this recent patch.
>>568232848those are also Black Templars btw
>>568231687I don't want more primarchs. Seeing them being gridlocked by the current state of the imperium is depressing.
>>568232848>Black templars and it's not even closeI agree. BT's have always been shit with unerring consistency. I've met at least a decent player from pretty much every other "shitter" group like Imperial Fists, Space Wolves, Console crayon marines or Lamenters but raw Black Templars are all dogshit.>>568233294I wonder if we'll get a new class next year. Apothecary seems like it'd be the most obvious with Librarian and Chaplain (with Librarian having actual magic abilities and Chaplain having functionally magic abilities) being reserved for SM3.
>>568166929>Retardedly low accuracy and high recoil, even after perks>Ramp up fire rate that takes 25% heat to reach max fire rate which inherently builds up your natty recoil and scatter>Low damage per shot for what is an upscaled bolterEvery single one of those things is could be a reason a weapon performs poorly in space marine 2, and yet the heavy bolter is all 3
>>568166929This is the biggest perk of the training room to be honest. It means the devs can actually test this shit in a controlled environment and see the numbers. Presuming they plan to have at least one person do that.
>>568233486That doesn't even look half as good as black and ivory
>>568231687Fuck, I can't wait for when they bring back Khan, Russ, Vulkan and Dorn's death will turn out to be greatly exaggerated (though it'd be funny if he really did job to some nobodies, I think there's some lore where Curze saw Dorn's death in a vision as being shanked by bunch of knives in an alley). I guess Sanguinius being brought back by some bullshit isn't out of the question either since his body is still fresh and his soul is in one piece.And by "I can't wait" I mean I don't fucking want to. #new40k already feels like Horus Heresy part 2 and I'm not a big fan. >>568233486It could also be Lion's "Risen", but I don't think I've ever saw one of those in the wild.
yet i still find the Heaby Bolter better than Heavy Plasma
>>568234336The devs don't play the game, they go off of numbers just like ArrowheadHistorically they don't play test shit
Where are the polearms?Halberds? Spears? Glaives? Lucernes? Bardiches? Bills?
>>568234529The fencing one is beastly because it's a superb melee weapon and>Parry into heavy burstIs strongBut at the end of the day it's on account of how good it is in meleeHeavy plasma imo has teething ammo problems
>>568233838I could see Librarian being added in the future. It'd take work but having the loadout set to be Primary = Chosen Psykana school, Secondaries as normal, and Melee = Staff that changes slightly depending on the primary, would be pretty neat.
Absolute decapitation will take a whileit's non stop eating shit 24/7 at the tyrant
>>568234496Risen are tuff but it's too niche for the average player
>>568235454Either get the fencing bolter and melee it Or the plasma gun and plunk it since plasma is good vs bosses
WHY 100% OF TECHMARINES TAKES THE TEAM PEARK THAT NEEDS TO BE STAY NEAR A TURRET FOR OPERATIONLITERALLY FUCKING WHYDON'T THEY NOTICE THEY DON'T HAVE A TURRET NEARBY FOR LIKE MOST OF THE OPERATION
>Get split up debuff>Teammates stick together and die instantly>Just another day of SM2
>>568236738>Trying to heal handshake>Left hanging
>>568233838An Apothecary after the promised contested health changes seems pretty likely if they nerf the shit out of every other class' healing perks.
>>568237302We don't need any of that shitJust revert it back to the OG space marine 2 CHPFuck just do the OG space marine wayNot like it matters to most people since armor disappears in seconds and HP disappears even faster
>>568236664I am already using the heroic bolterthe problem is when all his attacks becomes red circles
>play space marine 1>shoot stuff>actually takes damage and dies>juste execute them if you need to regen your lifeThey really had to reinvent the wheel. Also i'm still mad that nu-marines don't get the stormbolter.
>>568237729Just dodge.
>>568237729Evade diagonally awayEasier said than done but yeahOh and I guess a quick charge plasma pistol is good at refunding most of your lost health
>>568237917They'd probably fag it up with a ramp up fire rate and unusable spare ammo if they could
Assault dodgepack build is the most fun
Having to level up classes 4 times and start from zero each fucking time is the most retarded shit ever. There's literally no upside to it, its just making people waste their time while being miserable. Weapon grind isn't much better.
>>568237917It would not scale well in SM2 coop, you'd never die because you're always killing shit
>>568237917>>568238312There was the Assault Bolter, the Primaris "reinvention" of Storm Bolter in files since release. It's downside was that (aside from having ass damage like every other bolter weapon) it had absurdally shit accuracy, like good 90 degrees "cone" of fire.
Jesus fuck stop focusing on me, the nanosecond i dare enter heavy stance you fucking CUNT tyrant
>>568239390There is no good full auto weapon in the game unpess the enemy is close or largeWhat the dumb fucks at sabre forgot is spacearines mobile, stable firing platforms But oh no it's perfectly fine for all th other enemies to have perfect on the move accuracy and 1hko guns
>>568239384Either way the current system is dogshit, not my problem if they're incompetent and cannot come up with anything better.
>>568239390Also this reminds me I still fucking hate they removed the ability to have two shields on your shoulder as a Heavy. It was such a little thing but I really liked how it looked compared to single shields which almost universally suck ass.
I can't stand any block weapon that isn't the power axe. There's just something about the way the back step into overhead deals a gorillion damage in a massive fucking AOE that makes my cock hard.
>>568239631If you're targeted it's your job to survive while ideally your teammates do damageThis is retarded ofc since most players aren't good at teamwork and teamwork mechanics just aren't thereSpace marine 2 is basically helldivers 2
>>568239752I'm not mad they did it, fuck those shields, absolutely ruined my fit on several attempts. Now the chests are clean and I can use them wherever.
>>568239752Historically you don't wear 2 and 40k is very grounded in history
I strongly believe that, if this wasn't a licensed 40k game, this would have bombed hard. The gameplay is too fucking shit and repetitive to stand by itself. We just don't have anything better to play.
>>568240053>>568239752Pic related, I always wanted to use this chest piece because it removes the shroud so taller helmets can be used. But the forced shoulder attachment looked awful on the non-default options. Now I'm peak pub shitter.
>>568240053>>568240423>Reddit TemplarsGravis generally looks like shit with the hood so I was just glad to have one little thing that made it look nice to me. Ultimately it doesn't really matter I guess.>>568240292I don't feel like explaining to (You) why your argument is disingenious, you know what you did.
I think the game is pretty good actually
>>568241231Hey I just like using chapters that align with the new free voices. All my dudes are Ultramarines, Black Templars, Space Wolves or Blood Angels. BTs love flamethrowers so I was fine making Heavy a BT.
>>568241354Its too rigid for my taste. Nothing but calculating the exact amount of hits something needs, make sure you don't waste ammo, constant parry and executions, until you get chain staggered to death on some bullshit.
They should remove the debuff thing from siege
>>568241739You don't need to do that outside of absolute/hard siege. I'd say my biggest issue is that they locked accolades and cosmetics behind absolute/hard strats/hard siege so everyone is forced to always be playing absolute+. The game came out originally with ruthless as the highest difficulty and lethal/absolute were added for people who wanted a cbt simulator difficulty to minmax on. Lethal and ruthless are very comfy modes.
>>568237302>no apoc in team>lose
>>568228367kek
And finally finished levelling up the weapon tree itself and got all perk points
Considering we have a health bar that's blatantly segmented, why don't we have partial HP regen ala Transformers: War for Cybertron? Where your HP will always regenerate to the most upper line it falls into. That way you'll never be at the dreaded 1% HP for long, always giving you a fighting chance against chip damage, while at the same time making healing still important?
>>568246229I'll have to give it a go, I have been living and breathing the heroic heavy plasma since I got it but a change of pace could be fun
>>568188867The heroic one handed bolt carbine will save it. Just wait until the next update in august.
Heroic plasma does fuckhueg damage, but charges too slow to deal with immediate chp recovery
>>568247119How much of a failure as a space marine do you have to be to even get into this situation?>Chapter thunderhawks in the air meaning this isn't a hopeless last stand>He's alone which means he got separated, then chose to dig in out in the open rather than simply going back to his brothers>He's wading through cultists and letting them climb him like a tree rather than sprinting through them at 80+km/h and turning them into pasteBrother Mulletus is a colossal fuckup.
Thunder hammer shock zones count as equipment for the ordeal
PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE LET THE HEROIC MELTAS BE NEXT AND PLEASE GOD LET THEM BE GOOD.The heroic plasma pistol is so good I have a new favorite tactical build.
>>568243153>you don't need to do that outside of absolute>you're forced to play absolute to get stuffYeah, so its fucked.
>>568252398youre forced to play absolute to get *some customization items
>>568254050I mean, aren't we all here to play dress-up ?
>>568254208Barbie doll dress-up is like 75% of the reason I'm even playing this game.
>>568254208>aren't we all here to play dress-up ?I know I am, for the most part. And to play with my buddies on occasion.
>>568254208if not having a cape ruins the entire rest of the game for you then fair enough I guess but smashing and slicing up aliens is pretty fun
>>568254723Its just annoying to have to interact with a part of the game i don't actually enjoy, to get something.
Trying to go for an Inner Circle companion, they added some new colors for the tabards that get closer to the one I need, but I am not sure if it works
>>568140345How do these youtube faggots upload 50 build guides a day, this game barely has any build variety as it is. Yet they act like it's fucking Diablo.>wow I changed this one perk, NEW BUILD ALERT
>>568258787Once your account is associated with a singular game, it's impossible to branch out. So you have to keep farming content, even benign shit.
>>568250275The chapter pictographer told him to stand still please understand
>>568258787That's why Jewtubers are retarded and shouldn't be listened to>muh stats and buildsThere's Practice Arena now
>>568240348Pretty much. Space Marine, Darktide and Vermintide ride heavily off the IP but mechanically are terrible games.
>>568237917There is something in the water at Saber that they over-design fucking everything. But maybe they're right. Because this game still has like 10k players daily and the average player is a mongoloid just here for infinite grinds.
>>568265389>10k players dailyOnly because we're close to a patch. The numbers aren't that good honestly for how big of a franchise this is. Look at fucking Helldivers 2 in comparison. Despite being a mismanaged piece of shit, the base gameplay is actually solid.
>>568265875Even without a patch this game averages 10k players daily, it bumps to 12k-13k+ when a new weekly hits and stays that way for an entire day or two.
>>568221606Not that anon but the whole gimmick now is spamming the terminal. In order1. Ad mech for extra currency on all three terminals 2. Turret upgrades + turrets on all three terminals 3. IG upgrades + IG buff always up By the time you hit 15, each player should have around 1000-1500 spare points so getting the dread is piss cheap. Meanwhile you have six turrets, 80 IGs, mines everywhere and all three ad mechs pumping out currency endlessly. Also of course you need a tech marine always now.
>>568266061Why all three terminals?
>>568266313Because all three terminals have their own spawns. You can have 3 admechs and 6 turrets up at once. If you only do 1 terminal you'll only have 1 admech and 2 turrets.
>>568267771Why do you need spawns on the other 2 areas? Just buy ammo boxes and medkits.For grenades, bring a Tactical with Secure Stockpiles.
>>568251974>heroic multi-melta: block defence type that unleashes its adrenaline surge stacks in a fuckhueg shot that annihilates everything it hits>heroic melta rifle: behaves like a lore-accurate melta gun, highly damaging close to medium range beam of superheated energy that melts through heavy armour, increasing all damage taken by the target
What do i pick brothers
>>568266061turrets are a waste on the first area, same thing with the techpriest; they shine through starting from wave 8 and beyondwithout a techmarine teammate with a maxed turret build the turrets also don't last long, don't nuke enemies that attack it and don't do as much damage there's also retards who run around instead of holding a position beside a turreti realized that the wave 15 terminus enemy is randomized, even if you're fighting tyranids you can still get a mutalith vortex beast or 3 carnifexes/neurothropes or some combination of the twoalso some of the side missions are stupid and impossible to beat under massive wave conditions
>>568268469exacting focus
>>568268469If you're using the heroic BSR, Exacting Focus. If you aren't, then choose Versatile Precision and then repick your prestige perks to include Exacting Focus.
>>568268714Thanks bro'
>>568269092Thank too
>>568267945>Why do you need spawns on the other 2 areas?Because enemies spawn all over the map, turrets draw enemies to themselves and rip enemies to shreds. Its also only 300 points, which is irrelevant if your team has been buying the admechs at every chance.>>568268582>also some of the side missions are stupid and impossible to beat under massive wave conditionsNever once had this problem. If you followed my advice you wouldn't either. Don't agree with anything else you said. You should be buying admechs from wave 1.
I love block power sword
>>568269303your advice is dogshit and doesn't reflect the nuances and realities of the current hard siege modeyou're most likely a gay jewtuber who only plays solo and only in normalyou obviously don't play with real people, fuck off
>>568270148You have strange anger issues. The Admechs give more points than they cost. It is always therefore good to buy them straight away and keep them up. You can buy 3 of them, so you should buy all 3. Turrets deal massive amounts of damage, even without a tech marine but obviously they're even better with one, especially with the faster fire rate and increased damage when they explode. At 100x3 for 6 turrets its a nothing cost to keep up every 5 minutes. They cover multiple zones, and increase the amount of space players can run in and around because people don't just stay in one spot all mission.IG spawn infinitely with their buff up, they distract the everything and keep pressure off players. Once wave 15 hits, you'll have more points than you can spend, only 1 player needs to buy the dreadnought, and the whole experience on Hard will be easy as hell. Its literally how this mode is designed now. I have no idea why you're getting so mad at that maybe take your anger out on Saber if you don't want to engage with the mechanics they've added to make the mode easy.
>>568270792there's a tranny in your squad bro...
>>568271149Those are randoms, I only play with randoms.
>>568270792Have you gotten the wave 25 challenge done? How painful is it to play with randoms in siege now?
Valtus is useless now, or the vatniks at Saber made him uselessEven without a Techmarine teammate the turrets do more damage than ValtusValtus takes time to kill a Majoris enemy for some reason, they fucked up his numbers for sure
>>568271489>How painful is it to play with randoms in siege now?in normal they quit after wave 5in hard they're going to spend stuff on lots of stupid shit and get wiped after wave 5 if they stick aroundthat is not counting the underleveled, non-max prestige and wrong team perk players (still getting vanguards with inner fire and assaults with team gunstrikes)even worse they'll play as heavy or sniper on hard siege instead of either just the tactical, vanguard, techmarine or bulwark
I wont lie, I kept searching /sm2/ like a fucking retard. I'm glad you guys are still here.
>>568271489Its way harder with randoms now to just get to wave 15 let alone 25 because they have to know how to spend their points correctly on all three terminals. You can't just have everyone spamming Valtus.
>>568270792>Assault>in Hard siege
>>568273169To be completely fair I was going to ditch at wave 5, but that group was doing so well we went until I think 25. Slam build worked really well though I was basically a portable melta charge. Especially when I got the perk for faster ability cooldown.
I main techmarine and I refuse to play any other fl*sh classes.What should I be doing to get to wave 15 on hard siege?
:3
>>568275464Find 2 people to carry your useless class
>>568276136how r u this bad at videogames?
>split up>niggers won't stop sticking to my asshole like they're fucking botsNever seen biggest retards in a video game before holy shit
>>568275464See >>568266061
>>568278906Can you explain to me the advantage of splitting up in a survival horde shooter? Because everytime my team "split up" we just get picked off one by one.
>>568280198this isn't a horde shooter built around disabling specials and is instead a third person brawler where catching stray attacks meant for your allies is disastrous and not built around in the combat systemyou should want at least ten meters between everyone
>>568280198Split up is a modifier retard-kun. It makes you fucking die if you hold hands.
>>568275464Post code or find decent players on the official Trooncord
>>568280198>Can you explain to me the advantage of splitting up in a survival horde shooter?Easily. The game is a fucking mess with its notifications of attacks. Standing near other players opens you both up to get hit with only one of you getting a notification of it.
>>568280198I sprint through areas because fighting every enemy on the way is pointless and boring. Every map has forced combat encounters, I'm not going to fight every single enemy you pull or can't run past because that's your fun. My fun is standing in the elevator relaxing waiting for you to wise up and catch up. In a perfect world, SM2 would have launched with a lobby browser and the host could tag their game with a 'playstyle' to let you know what type of player they were>Salamanders: Happy to help new players, willing to go slow >White Scars: Rush objectives, rush the map as fast as possible >Imperial Fists: Stick together no matter what>Black Templars: Be gay homosexuals Also this lobby browser should have been on the main menu with the class editor so I wouldn't have to load into the god damn ship just to load into a god damn game.
>>568283534No one wants to play as a stupid loser Fist
>>568283534>Imperial Fists: Stick together no matter whatWhere's your Primarch mustard boy
>>568284229You dont play as them fag you just indicate what the style is and I made it thematic
>>568284403Fists are stupid and eat shit
>>568284450I don't even like Fists but the hate is illogical. Everyone knows the worst players are in order>Black Templars, who are actual, literal 12 year old children>Space furries, who are allergic to staying alive>Dark Angels, who run into melee and die instantly (wanna-be Blood Angels)>Smurfs, who just started playing And the best are >Smurfs, who are prestige 4, dripping in gold, and single handedly carried the mission>Blood Angels, who go melee and never get hit >Salamanders, who get carried fucking hard by Pyres >White Scars, who are in the lift and already have a racist homophobic text message ready to send because you're taking too long Fists are just 'meh'.
>>568284941Salamanders are shitBlood Angels are a mixed bag at bestWhite Scars are full of posers as of last patch they're pretty shit too these days>dripping in goldMost of those are shit too
>>568285159Nah
>Red Stimm>Melee buff relic-thingI still don't know how to use them.
I wonder how long its going to take them to fix the kraken bolts bug.
>>568286370Red stim gives you contested HP over time. Just pop it, then shoot your bullets at things. You can get a full HP bar back unlike normal stims.Melee buff is gay and lame, do not pick up.
>>568284941a very emotionally charged and subjective list, are you a woman?
>>568286847Cry more gay furry
>>568287047I don't play any chapters mentioned in that list
>>568285159>>568284941>S tierUltramarines (not the newbs with default skins)Dark Angels (Deathwing and Ravenwing)Blood Angels (default)Iron Hands Carcharodons>A tierDark Angels (default)Blood RavensRaven GuardMinotaursFlesh Tearers>B tierLamentersCreate-your-own-Chapter (codex compliant)Raptorseveryone else>C tierWhite ScarsSalamandersRetards using the default champion skins>Kill YourselfImperial FistsSpace WolvesBlack TemplarsBlood Angels (Sanguinary Guard)Puke and meme colour chaptersMismatched armour pieces Space MarinesWith the newest update I'm seeing a fuckton of Iron Warriors desu, I'd put them around B-A tier
>>568287541Ahh. A clownfag and/or unique fairy princess. Sorry you're also just a gay retard.
>>568287658>S tierMy guys>Z-tierYour guys
Don't act like Dorn doesn't have motion.
>>568288293Dead people have no motion
>>568288661Just wait bro
>>568288739For whatAre you going to grow him back from one skeletal hand?
>>568288886He's not dead though
Is onehand SMG good? Where does it rate among pistols?
>>568287686Maybe you're a projecting child yourself?
>>568289151I think it's the worst pistol
>>568289151It's complete fucking dogshit.
>>568289284>>568289438Why?
>>568289568Bad damage and accuracy and reserve ammo
>>568158139>>568159683Vanguard is pretty much dead weight if you end up with Larraman Cells, which in my experience happens quite often (or maybe I'm just lucky). Unmatched Zeal is the only value he brings to the team and if he doesn't have that then all you're left with is this shitty ranged/melee hybrid that doesn't excel at either and a janky ability with an obnoxious minimum range that becomes less reliable at actually hitting what you're aiming for when there's more enemies on the screen, and it's Siege so of course there will be enemies everywhere. Powerfist Bulwark provides more value by being able to fist fuck entire waves as they spawn in and even if his heal loses its usefulness the banner itself still provides a rallying point that gives you armour and damages enemies around it. Also you can switch off Invigorating Icon between areas at the drop pod now for a shorter cooldown if everyone gets the passive heal.
>>568289824Larraman Cells is too slow, with a Vanguard present you're always healing via Extremis melee kills.
Finally.
>>568289128He's quite dead. Might come back as a Primarch Dreadnought, now that would be something.
I have no idea how to melee spawns
>>568291842Stagger with light attacks then wait for the wind up to parry and get gunstrikes. Don't mash your parry on the windup because if he does the triple charge crab claw you can still parry it after the first windup if you're not alocked. Stay close, and if you see purple glow, dodge forward.Definitely one of the more annoying enemy types.
>>568292238Nothing you said registered, so I'll just continue to die to them and let my team carry me
>>568292576Spam right click then press c before he hits you
>>568291842With your weapon is a good start
>>568291842Just parry them. In fact, parry everything chaos. Never "melee" chaos. Every chaos unit has some bullshit anti-melee mechanic.
Metreian and Galeo are exes right? I'm not reading too far into that?
>>568293849Probably.At the very least they were friends.
The heavy bolt pistol is fucking terrible right? It looks like all the later perks try their best to nonbo the last round damage buff. You'd think there'd maybe be a fucking ammo reduction perk or something but nah.
>>568296418Ammo HBP is top 3 best secondaries.
>>568296580Is the base damage good enough?
>>568296418heavy bolt pistol is for gunstrike damage
>>568296743On assault and bulwark with their ranged perks, you will kill ranged warriors before needing to reload.
Do magazine size or total ammo reserve perks increase your total ammo count for a grenade launcher?
>>568296997Total ammo does
Melee feel incredibly weak in this game. Why even bother.
>>568298838Weapon balance is all over the fucking place, sometimes its worth it, sometimes not
very yellow random squad
>>568299914>McDonalds Squad
>>568287658hmmm yes, quite edgy sir, very bold.
>>568298330Thanks
Anyone want to go normal siege mode?
Grey Knights when REEEEEEE
>>568301784When you can be a librarian in terminator armor(never).
>>568298838>>568299094Saber designed everything based on a medium difficulty story campaign.Everything multiplayer is an afterthought.Their design makes 1000% more sense once you realize this.
Why do faggots start games and then camp in the armoury?There should be an option to kick AFKing hosts and they've disabled chat if you just joined.
>>568239340Yes, prestige is a cancer which makes classes unfun, since you can't even play with builds for which those perks exists to begin with
Heavy bolter should get perks that make it actively cool from doing damage and regain ammo from kills.
>>568303838Heavy bolter is fine though?https://youtu.be/KvfA3WU6f_ICCs say weapon best for heavy this patch, no buff needed
>>568301048I want to go hard mode for the triangles but every time I press the queue button it puts me either in a lobby that has already started or one that is AFK
>>568304635this was already posted
>>568239340>There's literally no upside to it, its just making people waste their time while being miserableEvery single thing done since release could be summed up by this sentence.
>>568289151It’s fun, but too little ammo on the accuracy version, will probably be buffed, still taking it for the cool factor
>>568275908A true angel of death
Power Axe remains the most universally good melee weapon.>Block Power Axe is a monster on Bulwark>Fencing Power Axe has a unique niche on Vanguard, because it safely and heavily enables the grapnel execute build>Fencing Power axe has a unique niche on Techmarine, because the backstep + gunstrike (+ Furious Gun Strike perk) > overhead strike does massive damage akin to Block without giving up defense
Is plasma techmarine still shit?
>>568311508Yes, it has no plasma bonuses like the Tactical or HeavyIt's best gun is still the Occulus and the heroic HBR
>>568311508Plasma Incinerator? Yes.Plasma Servo-Gun? Slept on.>Significantly better in horde situations>Splash AOE on both regular hit and gun strike>Huge stagger>Combine with fire rounds for large AOE DOT>Not broken but still top tier damageThanks to the perk loadout system, the only time I use the the sniper shit now is on Reliquary to get rid of the Heldrake fast.
Currently doing the Reclamation daily for any Ausgods, although this will probably be the only one I'm doing tonight.BZBKC
>>568311508The gun or his servo-gun? Because yes both are shit.
>>568305552It’s genuinely demented that they went “NO ASTERTES, YOU HAVE TO BE IN THERE FROM FIRST SECOND OR YUO ARE OF CHEATING BLYAT”Being Russian truly is living in a cage of your own making
>>568312563Sniper servo deletes extremis and terminus enemies though
>>568313093He's talking about the plasma servo, and he's incorrect because the plasma servo is significantly better in the likes of Siege or super thick horde situations.Sniper servo is for popping Extremis and Terminus, plasma servo is for when shit gets way too hectic and you need space.
>>568311508>>568312563wait, whatlast time I played everyone agreed it was meta
>>568313680No, his best guns are the Deathwatch HBR or the Bolt Rifle. And after the buffs to bodyshot damage the New-Volkite has leapt up the ranks as probably his best secondary for dealing with bosses and Extremis.
>>568312535Ack, I'm too late.
>>568313969random will probably leave we just finished
What exactly does the Tech Priest in Siege mode ?Is his only goal to lure some ennemies 1 minute before dying ? I'm pretty sure the computer/control thingy says "he gather ressources".
>>5683139693ZKWW for hard Siege.
>>568314176He gives the players requisition as he lives.
>>568314438Really ? Giving more than his cost ?
I don't know how you would go about it, but to me, the negative modifiers in stratagems are mostly never fun, aside for ones that change enemy composition and add more explosives on the map. I never feel like I see a modifier and go "Damn, what a fun mixup for this mission!" outside of a limited few rare cases. Absolutely nobody looks at stuff like Split Up modifier and goes "this looks fun".So why the fuck did they add it to Siege? It was my favorite mode, where I can just focus on combat for an hour and have my fun slaughtering hordes of enemies. Who in their right mind wanted to have their gunstrikes not work for 5 rounds, or have their damage gutted for the same amount of time, purely because of rng? And who asked for the timer that makes enemies even stronger, on top of their wave powerups? They already made the waves take less time, meaning you reach tougher enemies sooner (which fucked like half of the wave objectives btw), so why the powerup timer on top of it?Siege changes are unironically a much bigger problem than the cape grind.
>>568314438NTA but I'm not seeing my req go up at all.
>>568315481Negative modifiers should change enemy behaviors, non-combat conditions or spawns e.g.>All Extremis are Zoanthropes>Mixed forces of Tyranids and Chaos (they won't fight one another)>The shop has RNG prices on all items ranging from a 50% discount to a 100% increase, on everything>Terminus bosses will spawn on every wave>Every singular instance of damage reduces your Req by 10, every execution grants 50 Req
>>568314438>>568316490He doesn't just give you req. As long as he lives, he spawns escort servoskull extra objectives that give you req for doing them. It's not worth it, since waves are faster and the buff timer is a thing. Also you just get more req in general for just doing waves, and your new options for boss waves are more cost-effective than the old 3-heavy deploy.
>>568287658Thoughts on chaos larpers?
>>568313174Aw shit, my bad brother, as a son of Dorn, my geneseed lost the ability for reading
>>568316880>As long as he lives, he spawns escort servoskull extra objectives that give you req for doing themThat's just one of the new secondary objectives that can happen now. They added a few with the update. That one and the zone control that spawns destructible spores are both kind of awful though, they take such long time to complete that you're likely to not finish them before wave end.Speaking of which, the secondary where it spawns 1-3 zones depending on wave count is broken this update. The Alpha zone just can't be captured, making it impossible to complete.>>568314176He seems to give quite a bit of requisition. I'd love for someone to dig up the numbers, but even when I've summoned one and he's died immediately he seems to have refunded his cost. When I have managed to keep them alive, I've been able to farm requisition.On one more note, fuck the vortex beast. I love seeing hive tyrant in the boss pool for siege, but vortex beast is not made any better by being surrounded by terrain and a billion enemies. At least in the awful boss fight in vortex it is in a circular, empty arena and alone and you get some breathing room between phases, but here it has the same problem as the neurothrope in that it can hit you through walls without warning. And neurothrope at least has a decent head hitbox and doesn't instantly switch between unreadable melee attack jumps and disco ball mode that murders you instantly if you're anywhere near it.
As one of the loudest detractors of the Heavy Bolt Rifle, it feels pretty fucking good now. Shreds Minoris and does not dogshit damage.
>>568319039Only took them 2 years
Hate Chaos, hate siege, hate non-tested 90% damage debuff bullshit.
The idea of turning siege into a roguelike is cool and all but when you also progressively buff enemies to the point where you can never reach a power level high enough to deal with anything it kinda defeats the purpose, Saber!>didn't playtest it again Award
>>568320684They should've made it CoD: Zombies. Unironically a peak skirmish game mode
Very fun knocked it out of the park again Saber how do they keep doing it
The fact that the "Complete Missions without being incapacitated on Absolute difficulty" is capped at 5 while just completing missions is 100 is very telling of the thinking process that goes behind these new ordeals
The helmet availability on techmarine is still so random. Why no BT or DA champion? Why the IF champion helmet with the crest but not the one without? Do these useless fuckwits even know why this is the case? Wasn't the whole point of this update changed to cater to dress up?
Salamander cape on Phantom Links lieutenant, yes or no?
>>568321381Meanwhile there's a challenge to complete 25+ waves in a single run of Hard Siege 5 times, which IMO is borderline impossible without a meta team of sweats. You get one mediocre player and this isn't achievable even once.
>>568323147It's good, but I think the black one would be the best Brother (I know I know, the grind...., but still)Furtim est optio.
>>568325152Reminder that the old hard task for siege was 15 rounds for the studded helmetI would love to see these muskovite fucksticks actually playing the game they set challenges for
>>568314176Each one (you can have 3 at once) gives you credits over time. They are absolutely worth it. >>568316880Incorrect. That is a bugged new mission. The Admechs give you passive credit gain.
>>568325272I admit that it is a legitimate cope cape while I grind (hopefully they change the amount soon)But mixing it with the tyranid shoulder gives it a "monster hunter" vibe that is kinda nice
would a phantom links techmarine have standard colours minus the red pauldron, or standard techmarine colours minus the left pauldron?
>>568325152That ordeal is bug right now, normal seige still count.Source: me, who played it yesterday.
>>568325965I'd say it's the former considering PLs are only superficially codex compliant and they wouldn't care about Mars mandated rules. I think I'll have to add that bit about Techie's colors to the chart.
>>568325965The sheet says "superficially codex compliant" so I would say go with what you like most
>>568326451I better do it while it's still bugged then, thank you brother
Alright, well here's the Phantom Link's first techmarine, Brother Autistus.
>>568325458Yeah, I get you. They should've started with at least a couple extra options for this wargrear update. As it stands if you have Sally's/RG DLC then at least there's something to choose from. But it looks very neat for that hunter look.Also, I'd like to update my PL#1 on the Dude Wall (Brother-Commander Aeden)
>>568328358Yeah, the black cape looks dope as hell, I need it now
>>568328092Magnificent
they really couldn't figure out how to make the bots not be glued directly to your asshole on split up stratagems
>>568329338Lost technology
>Complete absolute solo without bots ordeal only looks for bots, not whether or not you're solo>Hard siege ordeal only looks for siege waves, not difficulty>Shock zones from bulwark parries and the heroic thunder hammer count as equipment for the ordealGod damn they suck at their jobs.
>>568331046They are our own personal Administratum, thank the Emperor they suck
So is this game still just selling overpriced DLC cosmetics and nothing else or have they actually introduced some new interesting content like weapons, missions, enemies, etc? No? Figured as much.
Are there any Brothers itt who have stuck with SM2 since launch? I can't imagine there'd be a lot of those among us...
>>568328092Nice, our own Techmarine. Ferre et Fervescere Brother!
>>568331762Been here since day one. It's not the only game I've played over the last two years, but I have just shy of 1100 hours.
>>568316490>>568318012>>568325406I haven't checked hard.On normal, every 35-40? seconds he spends alive during an active wave he gives you 40 requisition, he does this 8 times. Time between waves does not count towards his requisition generation or his despawn timer.So keeping one alive for the entire duration provides 320 requisition and a profit of 120 requisition and keeping him alive for about three and a half minutes refunds his cost. You can buy one at each requisition terminal on the map.Obviously, they are best purchased at every terminal as early as possible, when enemies are easier to stop from killing them.
heavy bolter goes chugachugachugachugachuga
>>568331447we are saved from their terrible decisionmaking by their incredible incompetence kek
>>568331762I played from release, went on a hiatus around the time lethal was added (I was already getting burnt out and the coherency mechanic was the last straw) and picked it back up last year when patch 10 dropped. I had about 150 hours when I started playing again and now I have 720, so despite all the downright baffling design decisions this developer makes the game has still managed to hold my attention somehow.>pic related, it's the first screenshot I took
It seems to me that the enemy strength timer makes it more important to kill enemies than spend time doing side objective in siege. A couple hundred requisition isn't going to be worth it when it's time spent letting the enemies get a little closer to being effectively invincible.
>>568331762I dont play as much but still do400h so far, game is still pretty fun
THE TECHNICAL UNDERBELLY
>>568317042I rarely see them, but they're usually very competent. They're not cold blooded speed runners either, they'll stick around to help you finish off enemy encounters and make sure you pick up spare med kits.I'd place them in S.Even more occasionally they'll actually bother to do the "refuse" emote every time someone FTE's. Sometimes you'll get loyalist teammates training their guns on them in elevators so they don't "try anything" presumably. Like this is Riddick, and we set our high value CSM prisoner temporarily semi free to help us move him through enemy lines.
>>568331762I bought the game I think 1 or 2 weeks after launch and have been playing with varying consistency but never stopped. It's just too fun.
Haven't played since Siege released. Are there still lobbies that accept retards that have forgotten how to play, or are only the lord's greatest racists still playing?
>>568336256The Dark Angels have done that with a Fallen before to fight the Crimson Slaughter.>Entire 5th company lands on a planet after learning a member of the Fallen was there>They show up and he's just there, out in the open, alone>He tells them it's a trap and that they're walking into an ambush>They ignore him and start walking him back to a thunderhawk>Suddenly, mass drop pod assault from a chapter strength chaos warband>Fallen convinces them that one more set of hands fighting is better than him being dead weight>They manage to fight their way off world then immediately hand him over to the interrogator chaplainsYes, they took casualties. Yes, they think those casualties are worth it. Yes, the Dark Angels are fucking retarded.
>>568338607based based BASED
>>568338409Did he get a redemption arc or was he put to death?
>>568338369You tell me brotherIn all fairness they were a level 9 Bulwark and a level 1 assault that probably bought the game the other day since it was on a massive discount, for what it was they played ok, but I would rather have had bots
I keep getting outdamaged by the average tactical in absolute as heavy with heavy bolter...
>>568341726Tactical is by far the best class and it's not even close
>Have an awesome run of Reclamation on Absolute>Me as Tac>Techmarine knew his shit>Bulwark always on point>Get to the end>Turboniggerfaggot Bulwark left while we were loading out>Completion didn't countFuck you, Wholesome Chungus, you piece of shit.
>>568340209>try a Normal game on the new dailies/stratagem mode>never played Heavy before, might as well try it out>remember how to parry and dodge>have no idea how to deploy and rapid-fire my heavy bolter>check my bindings during an elevator>"press Q to enter heavy stance">press Q>press Q some more>press Q a lot>never enter heavy stance>spend the rest of the mission hipfiring my heavy bolter like a retardIt has been a long time since I have felt this embarrassed
>>568340105No clue, story ends with him being handed over.
>>568331762I bought the game on launch, but I had to wait a month ish before I could play because I needed to upgrade my computer to handle the game.But of course I've also taken breaks, sometimes going a month or two without playing.
>>568341726tac has infinite ammo, infiinte equipment, constant damage up, and a massive damage amp in auspex, and thats at the minimum, its a disgustingly powerful dakka class
>>568338409And gay.
brothers i think saber fucked up somewhere
>>568331762Played the game since release. I just play from time to time, have 700+ hours in the game. It's my comfort game after Project Wingman.
>>568331762Yeah
4chan chapter
>New bug that deletes your armor preset after closing the gameThis needs to stop. They can’t just keep on pushing out patches filled with bugs.
>>568343084The treachery of the ruinous powers is always at risk of confusing our minds brother, it will get better
>>568345471If you don't leave the armory before quitting the game, it doesn't save a thing. The save state is upon leaving.
>>568349263I've had my presets getting deleted even though I close the game through the menu after leaving the armory.
>>568345117death guard already exists anon
So how i properly build into Plasma Daka?
>>568350260>WeaponTop > Top > Top > Down > Bottom the rest of the way.Highly recommend you take the second perk in the second column by the way. Additional health is beyond broken thanks to how it interacts with the innate damage resistance everybody gets at <50% HP, scaling harder and harder the lower you go. +30% HP means the scaling everybody gets at 50% kicks in for you at what would be their 65%.
>>568286370Red Stims give you Contested HP over time, and the Relic boosts your damage and staggers everything close to you.
I'm tired, boss. But i want that black cape..Also wtf they broke in last patch. 20% of parries goes straight to shadow realm.
>>568351905>20% of parries goes straight to shadow realm.known bugwont fix
>>568351905I know the feel so I've taken the edit pill. I will not put myself through an ordeal like that. Pun intended.Those damn vatniks would like everybody else to suffer. Literal "No fun allowed" studio.
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>>568352979>bulw-ack!
>>568352979>>568353285>
>>568353408kek, the fucking chaos confetti in the back
>>568354637Youll never guess his chapter.
>>568354904Shadow the Hedgehog marines?
>>568354904I am so tired of shitters ruining the Templars reputation, why do they gravitate towards them so much
>>568355492Arguably the most well known Chapter to normies thanks to all the memes. They're also the favorite Chapter of Flashgitz (the YT channel.)
>>568328358Received.
>>568357235>Arguably the most well known Chapter to normies thanks to all the memesWouldn't those be Salamanders?
>>568358205Black Templar memes go back decades. They were there alongside the Angry Marines.
Very entertaining seeing consolniggers crash at the end of purgation.
>>568357235Actually suffering from success
>>568355492GW ruined the Templars enough with all of the Primaris retardation and the custodes
>>568355492Same here Brother. Can't help it in the era of normies endlessly looking for hobbies to cling on to. Mark of our time I suppose.I will still enjoy playing BTs.
>>568355492>why do they gravitate towards them so muchbabby's first spess mehreenit's them or the dork angelsknight aesthetics mesh well with spess mehreens and low iq shitters easily gravitate towards them
Lmao, chapters and shit. I just play funny game where you shoot bugs and rip them to shreds. I have basic understanding of story and color everything black, white and red cause i like how it looks.
>>568362063The crusade marches on, Brother
>>568331762I pre ordered it.Been the game I come back to the most when I'm not branching out with new shit or revisiting classics.
>>568364650Valid opinion, as long as you kill them well
>>568364650> I just play funny game where you shoot bugs and rip them to shreds.>looking cool while doing itAs it should be. I love to play dress up using chapter compliant schemes etc. Autism is all great and I love it mostly keeps people at bay when it comes to 40k but I won't let it compromise the fun I have ripping and tearing xenos and all th other chaos filth.
>>568331762I'm an OG and have clocked 500 hoursOnly thing I haven't completed are PVP Chaos armours and those new ordeals, am waiting for their requirements to get lowered and I'm not retarded or autistic enough to play 600+ games
>>568331762I got it a few months after launch on the winter sale because the idea of GW getting full retail from me makes me start dry heaving.
Chaos is still the most unfun shit to fight imaginable and it has nothing to do with Chaos Spawn, they're unironically the most engaging part of the faction.>Chaos Terminators with Soulreapers who will literally shoot at you for eternity with pinpoint accuracy unless staggered>Same Terminators won't stop using ranged options when you're in their face>Enlightened Tzaangors are like Zoanthropes-lite in that if they aren't taken out immediately they become a massive fucking problem, and these spawn way more often>Cultist Snipers spawning in droves>Helbrutes having the random possible chance of doing an instant 180 when firing their plasma cannon so you eat fucking shit with little warning>Nearly every single Chaos-exclusive mission is a fucking slog too>Reliquary >Obelisk>Vortex>Purgation
>>568332453>>568333945>>568335642>>568337293>>568343464>>568344881>>568344941>>568365514Well met, brothers.https://youtu.be/a_0Gi1NI-40
>>568331762Been here since the beginning. Proud to serve /sm2g/.
>>568365514>chaos armorsI earned them all grinding the absolute shit out of helbrute onslaught, hoping they'd become available in some way in pve one day. Such an annoying grind. Sometimes your team will just be so bad and the other team so packed with squaded up killer veterans turtling so well that you'll be lucky to get 5 kills. Very dependent on the class you're trying to grind, and the map you're playing them on to a lesser extent. You should probably never play assault on bridge for example.There was a data mine leak for pve related CSM voice lines like for using stims, and a chaos grenade launcher. And I doubt they'd add stims and grenade launchers to pvp. Hopefully we see what that shit is alluding to in the next update. With how we have swappable voices now, there's not really much in the way of letting chaos cosmetics into ops at this point, let alone siege.
>>568369885Low player count team based PvP games are such cancer.
>Don't play Bulwark>Lose>Don't play Tactical>LoseNoticing a theme here.
>>568369885They should lower the requirements, these are just for Chaos anyway and no one plays PVP
>Join mission>One guy dead>Other guy is a vanguard trying to snipe an entrenched biovore from across the map with a bolt carbine>First guy respawns>Tactical with a melta>They type in Russian
>>568370109No shit, 2 strongest classes imo, which can carry nearly anything.
The Heroic Plasma Incinerator was not this weak prior to U13. It took maybe 3-4 shots to put Chaos Spawn into execute, it's now taking 5-6. I know I'm not fucking crazy.
>>568376307They probably fucked over the weapon perks
PSAThe Tactical's Radiating Impact's explosion damage counts as equipment kills for the grind penance.
>attend me menial I require biological upkeepdesignated galeo milker...
I hate how every fucking thing in this game is vibecoded trash because none of the devs have ever played the game and they don't even pretend to look at whatever player analytics they collect anymore
>>568378950>Be a boy on Macragge>Try to become an Ultramarine>Fail the trials but survive and get offered a place as a chapter serf>Go through all necessary training, including operating heavy equipment, loading munitions, manning gun stations, firearms handling, and servitor wrangling>get assigned your post>Twice a day you have to vacuum the shit out of the resident AdMech liaison's asshole
>>568287658how would you rank: grey knights, marines malevolent, deathwatch? would you really put them all in B tier?
>>568283534>Be me IH player.>Read this post while at work>First thought is not "white scars player cause fast" rather. "Raven guard player because coward, apathy towards teammates, and hyperfixation on objective, but mostly coward.">But taking bait is illogical, so don't respond.>Come home after long day at work>Play with randos and top tier gear for normal strategem. Easy 125 accolades.>Cut and shoot through xenos with ease. A little tedious, but still fun.>Raven guard (or some shithead successor) teammate.>In true RG fashion, speadruns to end of the elevator just like this post describes.>A little peeved, why play the game if you're not going to fight the easy battle? Whatever Im a corridor away anyway. more for m->They kick me.>THEY FUCKING KICK ME FOR PLAYING THE GAME AS INTENDED.>Experience the final emotions of the Gorgon as he no doubt not only hated fulgrim for his betrayal, but also corax for having a killing shot at any traitor primarch, and choosing the weak alter boy. Basically get IH black rage.>Think back to this post.>It wasn't bait.>It was his actual dogshit opinion. I CURSE YOU SONS OF THE 19TH!MAY YOU BE SHOT IN THE BACK AND LEFT TO DIE BLEEDING AND ALONE!
>>568379591>Grey KnightsHaven't encountered one>Marines MalevolentOnly encountered one in 700 hours>DeathwatchThey're solid B-tier
What would you rate Scythes of the Emperor and Crimson Fists?
>>568331762YesMy Darktide sessions rival SM2's despite only 600 hours because I used to boot it up every other hour to roll for optimal gear.
>Marines Malevolent icon locked behind 1500 execution grindIt's easy but damn, It would be sick if they added the smile to the beaky though
>>568331762idk if it counts as "sticking around" but I picked it up on launch but my computer couldn't run it at the time, I just got a new computer last month and have put around 150 hrs on it so far! Been having a ton of fun.
>new commissar in siege modebased desu
>>568341726Well Heavy has fuck all damage what do you expect. Tact can parry once and deal a thousand damage more than any other class.
>Reclamation>Press console to enter boss room>Sound of extremis>Extra ravener and biovore at boss arenaAlso tried hammer on bulwark for the 1st time and it felt awful after power axe. Your heavy attacks can't even stun whip major out of his main 4 attack animation. Is it just skill issue or its actually not that good?
>>568381269>1500That's a fuckin lot too.As an assault that's got executions available to me the most often, in a good run where I didn't die and got a lot of kills, I'll net like 30 to 45 executions in one mission if I'm going out of my way to get them.That's like 30 missions of grind. Well over 30 if you're not getting beyond perfect execution farming conditions every mission.Submitting pic related btw.
>>568383815Hammer bulwark is a meme for retards. Your best perks all involve the shield so not having one is removing half the utility of the class
Absolute feels really easy right now. Did they nerf it again? It feels like ruthless.
>>568383815You take the heroic hammer for shock damage amplification talent memes.The storm shield is significantly stronger and faster with the proper perk and lets you ignore like 80% of the projectiles in the game.
Anyone wanna get to 15 in normal/hard siege?
>>568385009Already did but do post code
>>568385009Posting this right before I have to go
>>568383815>Also tried hammer on bulwark for the 1st time and it felt awful after power axe.Shield slam is still his best build which is retarded. But yeah 100% shock build hammer is sort of fun but not worth losing the shield over.
>>568385031MTTVC
>>568385320Expired
>>568385320Reboot.5R6QF
>>568383815Hammer bulwark works on maps where you aren't going to get fucking ventilated from across big rooms and can minimize the effect of being shieldless, it does plenty of damage and you still have bulwark survivability. Biggest things of note are that you create the shock fields even if you anim cancel with a strike/execution, and your dash giving you two damage boosts, knockback immunity, and functioning as a shitty knockback means you just grug you way around then make 4 pain circles while parry/executing as you need to. Its very map dependant but I've been doing most of my recently absolutes with it and have yet to need to attempt any of them more than once but thats some real WORKS ON MY MACHINE shit so idk. Its a lot of fun to just slam and smash tho.Shields are for pussies Shields ain't actually for pussies
>>568378862Basically anything that isn't ranged weapons or melee weapons counts as equipment. Barrel explosions and any damage from abilities seems to count as equipment.
>>568386007I'm on a loading loop, it seems as more updates go by SM2 hates VPNs.
>>5683860072/3
Are we playing on Hard or Normal?
>>568387365Was gonna do hard first, then normal.
>>568387460Alrighty then, I'll stick to Techmuhreen and buy Techpriests on every area for every wave.We need a third guy, hopefully from here.
I love fisting. But not so much on assault.
>>568387603did you guys fill?
>>568388534We have a Xbox level 13 AssaultDo join, this is going to be a disaster
GG, that Mutalith boss fight sucks with that endless stunlock
>>568379763I refuse to concede that he was a true son of Corax. He was likely some unidentifiable "successor" chapter as he had been exiled from the legion for his treachery. I always stand in solidarity with my Shattered cousins.
>Want to play a single mission>Game keeps putting me in the same afk guy's lobby over and over>Half the time I have to sit through a loading screen just to reload my own empty battle barge even though I'm leaving as soon as it puts me in his lobby>Now it's too late to start anything
Emergency Override is cope, right?
>>568389261I find most xbox players to generally be a notch or two better than your average ps5 player.>>568392528Ggz.
I just did like 15 waves of hard siege and the ordeal says I did 50
>purgation came out 5 days ago, 144 hours ago of writing>this faggot claims to have done all 100 absolute missions>On an average of 30 mins/mission (allowing for failures) that's 50 hours playtime for 100 absolutes.>This faggot has spent 34% of his being grinding his nuts off, and thanks sabre for the opportunity>picrel
>>568400383This post alone will ensure Saber will not reduce the requirements, the slavoids hate their audience.
>>568398376It's shit, always take Pattern of Excellence since its a free grenade/melta bomb.
Thinking about picking this up, but does it have the same problem as Warframe where there's no fucking challenge for anything at all? Power fantasy is fine, but I also want some challenging modes/missions/whatever the hell this game has on top of that. And is it pay2win?
>>568402816Yes, the game has much harder things than in warframe and is challenging in a way I personally enjoy. Still grindy tho
>>568402816All microtransactions are cosmetic.
>>568402816The game is so challenging that you'll often get fucked by something you had little to no ways of mitigating if you're caught out of position for even a moment, like letting a group of Chaos Spawn surround you and overlap their attacks. Also the only microtransactions are cosmetic. Everything else like new weapons, operations and the Techmarine class have been free.
>>568403423>>568403182>>568403042Thanks.
>>568402816Like 80% of the playerbase are casual shitters who can't be bothered to play past Difficulty 4 when there's 6 difficulty levels.
>>568400383They're probably russian bots
>>568402816Space Marine 2 is unironically pay to win because victory in this game is measured by how good you look and the easiest way to get there is by buying cosmetics.Think about it, it's true. The entire game outside the campaign serves only one purpose - dressing up your Space Marine.
>niggerthrope beam hits me through a wallI hate russians and I want them all dead
>>568391412I always enjoy seeing a Crimson Fist with a big red power fist. It looks so goofy and old school.
>>568391412Has anyone figured out how to do this consitently? I gotta go fast
Shame sniper only gets the backpack antennae. I wonder if they will give him robes in the next patch.
>>568287658>Create-your-own-Chapter (Codex compliant)>But they're Imperial Fists successors of unkown foundingWhere's that put me? C-Tier? Fuck, man.
Tyranid hard siege waves 10-15 are fun
>>568410016Afaik you have to target an enemy or start from high ground. I've flown halfway across the map locked onto a running biovore
I'm with the anons that are tired of the Black Templar slander but holy fuck it's so hard not to give in to it.>join random>bulwark, max prestige>oh okay this might not be so ba->retard is using a black templar base with an ultramarine iron halo, dark angels shield and tyranid pauldron >jewish name>directs most of his chaff and heavy fire to me without blocking or fighting back half the cunts he leads over>finger GLUED to his execution button>multiple times he lets a soulreaper rape him without a second thought of using his incorrect shield to block the damage How do these people exist?
>>568414492All Imperial Fists and their successors suck, I've only encountered and played with 3 Crimson Fists (2 friends and 1 random) and they're mostly mid.Those in the S, A, C and KYS tier are so common you'd encounter them in any meaningful playtime of SM2 PVE.I play Silver Skulls and Marines Malevolent so I'm not biased at all, I've only played with 1 other MM random.
Pre-Heresy World Eater players have been reliable as fuck for me.Them and Alpha Legion players.
>>568380283I play Crimson Fists, so SSS+ tier obviously
>>568417991I've just figured it out, all the sub-ruthless babbies are playing absolutes to grind for capes and they're all getting rinsed. This particularly stood out to me as 8/10 games I've queued into recently have been chaos ops and no real Absolute player willingly plays them.
>>568421178
>>568417991They deserve double the shit thrown at them for their sins against the Chapter
>>568421575The curse of the cosmetic strikes again....
>>568417991>finger GLUED to his execution buttonLiterally me
Anyone beat this? Looks like folks will need codes and maybe another general before this game dies again and gets banished to /coopg/
>>568422716I forgot the reset happened an hour ago, I'm down to try it.
>>568422862Wiped after a surprise double Terminus after the chapel, post code if you're still interested.
>>568423684Stuck in a run with a prestige 4 level 1 bulwark, i'll see if we survive our double helbrute
A run so pathetic that we died to mobs instead of a helbrute, which didn't even spawn yet.Really, a Bulwark without Intimidating Aura or even a Teamperk should just be a ban.
>>568402816This is Fashion Marine 2, the hardest thing going here is the drip. Your goal is to look immaculate, and that's going to cost you money, $80 worth specifically when not on sale.
>>568403423It is not really challenging at all; once you memorize all attack patterns and timings you clear lethal 100% times, and absolute becomes a russian (huehuehue) roulettte - the only thing that matters is how many times the ai director will fuck you up
>>568423742Wiped twice, even reached the trainyard but got a BT Bulwark who kept dying and can't shieldbash.Will just wait for codes, this strat is too OP for randoms.
>>568426450Needing to account for a ranged terminator spawn on initial terminus spawn and twice over when one of them reaches 50% health is the biggest run ender.Helbrutes just randomly switching targets is also the worst. I don't even know how you can reliably kite one away when it can just say imma go fuck over a guy a mile away from me with his teleport.
https://youtu.be/vQ2sTs7PyA8Yeah this shit is now on par with the heavy plasma incineratorEither>body shot bolter change were that good>the weapon type was "stealth" buffed and in rushing the patch they forgot the mention in notes>it's bugged to make it do more damage than intended
>>568227574but this team perk like 25% less Damage from Ranged Attacks is pretty good tho.
>>568426683More like>Fuck that guy over there, i am gonna plasma blast it without warning
>>568427026The HPI feels worse after the changes against Majoris. It's not bopping enemies anywhere near as fast as I remember.
>>568227574>Heavy>No survivability>Iron Halo>Restoration>Fortitude>Encompassing Aegis
Idk what's going but there has been a ridiculous degree of frametraps tonight. Like I thought it was just thousand buns being thousand buns but I switch to tyranids and its more undodgeable niggerhell gay shit during a terminus encounter. Also that bit in the patch notes claiming they added an invuln window after an execute is fucking BULLSHIT unless that window is literally 1ms.
>>568428502i had 3 ghost parries in a row resulting in my death in an absolute and i quit for the nightshit gameshit serversdeath to saber
>>568428502>When you get staggered into a wall and literally can't do shit for what must be 3 whole ass seconds as all three Extremis jump you
>>568429848What drives me up the wall is when you lose half your health to a blob of spore mines that spawned off camera and activated before you could react
>its another "wave spawns but a retard still rushes forward into an obvious terminus spawn point causing a near instant wipe for no good reason" episodeyou'd think fuckers would get tired of this rerun
>>568430312I immediately visualized the badlands in front of the refinery while reading this, it just keeps happening
also today i learned that in the new mission while you are walking up the marble spiral staircase a carnifex doesn't enter the level normally, it just materializes out of thin air, possibly on top of you
>>568430471yep, wave spawned after hitting the battery button and instead of just sitting behind it and waiting it out, letting the 3rd guy respawn off the majoris kills, guy rushes forward to the terminal and hits the button to rotate it instantly dumping 2 buffed helbrutes, 3 terminators, and at least a dozen meatballs on us he died instantly and i survived 5 seconds after being surrounded by spawn and catching a plasma cannon shot
Aus gods on?
There should be a cap on how many Terminus will spawn in an area, we beat 4 Helbrutes in the railyard only to get mogged by a 3rd pair just when the doors opened and we're down 1 man.
>>568431203True, but then you'd have people getting aneurysm from supposed "easy" difficulty than won't let them challenge themselves. And let's not forget saber are spiteful when it comes to their players, sm2 ones in particular.
It's a bit of a bullshit that their janky code doesn't allow for equipping a cape and a codpiece cloth at the same time. Why does everything have to be monkey's paw with these vatniks?
>>568430747I am now
>>568432123Do we have the other? Don't wanna do the weekly with one monkey.
>>568432448I get the feeling he was this one >>568429115
>>568432491Welp, let's give it a try then.Aus - 5KFKU
>>568432491No no, I haven't booted the game up tonight so it hasn't had the opportunity to make me crack the shits. I probably won't be on, mates want to play Vermintide.
>>5684327172/3
>>568432717sorry brah I was in a game I'll be a sec
here, I found another one of these cretins, with a dark angels power pack, sally cape and torch, iron hands and imperial fists pauldrons who kept spamming black templar voicelines all game. how are there so many of these cunts?
>>568433625RJ3GV
>>568433761Most people who play this game have 0 fashion sense and have only a superficial understanding of the setting that they've picked up via memes
Lucked out in pub hard strat today>no brutes until the pre-valtus area>rushing to valtus seemingly made them despawn>two brutes at finale>team dies>juking two brutes by dropping around the control panel area and running around>get downed but just wait out my relic timer while teammates finally spawn back and run to me>eventually 1v1 one of the brutes and finish the other, team died fully again>still get ultra-molested at the start of the uphill cart but make it through
Did I make a mistake picking the parry dagger as my first heroic weapon? I like sniper and vanguard
>>568434487Nope. BiS for sniper. As for vanguard you kinda go with non-heroic block axe.
>>568402816>Challenge Yeah we got challenges. Our siege mode and strategems both have hard modes which can be challenging depending on what you're going in with.>Pay2winNo we have pay2drip though which is true winning in this game but we're not p2w in the traditional senseI'm kinda new to this game though so I'm sure the vets will disagree
>>568434487Argent Edge is one of the best heroics in the game, melts enemies on Tactical with Auspex parry.
>>568434487Argent Edge is the best melee weapon in the game.All Fencingigachads are using it.
Hm, this isn't the first time this has happened since U13.
>>568436362>>568434897>>568434584Can you guys explain to me what is so good about it as opposed to just running the regular fencing knife? I understand it does damage but it is not AoE like Intimidating Aura, and it's not a huge amount from what I've seen. Is it the stagger? Does it stagger terminus enemies?
>>568437023The regular fencing knife does dogshit damage.Argent Edge is Fencing (technically Block timing) with 18 damage and does damage to the enemy when you're parrying.
>>568437023The damage is about half that of Intimidating Aura, and it disrupts almost every single attack chain in the game. e.g. the Ravener gets cucked out of his three-piece combo the moment you parry the first hit, he gets launched back into an instant gun strike.
>>568433761And the White Scars bolter
1H SMG does not have a headshot bonus and all of its perks are trash. It doesn't have the 10% damage perks that the bolt carbine has.This gun needs 4 variants on every grade and all of its perks need to be copied from the bolt carbine. Also needs 2-3x the ammo by default with the ammo version having 5-6x the ammo.
Is heavy bolt rifle just shit compared to normal bolt rifle until you get Deathwatch?
>>568437580Agreed, it's cool and fun to use, but it needs to get some more attention before it's in the same spot as the other one had guns
>>568437750You take it to magdump into blobs due to the extra pierce and ammo pool. The reason it feels bad is because it's effectively a poor man's Heavy Bolter
Current hard strat is actual filter. If i see random clowns die even before terminus wave i just leave.
They broke something and you can never parry the Rubric's charge attack. It just goes through you.
>>568284941What about loyalist War Hound?
>Triple Soulreaper Terminators spawn, their ping alert must have happened during the absolute audio clusterfuck so I never heard them, while I'm on the cusp of killing the last Helbrute and broadside me from the rear for an instant kill
Is following blow worth taking on the powerfist? It seems it just lowers the potential damage of your follow-up heavy attacks.
Safe to assume this hard strat weekly is statistically impossible to clear using exclusively in game tools and is required to find people in premade group on Discord or similar
>>568441280Post code
>>568440010Don't give it too much stock. My experience has been vastly different than what these tier-lists suggest. With Dark Angels, Space Wolves, and Lamenters being some of the biggest shitters I've ever played with, Imperial Fists, White Scars, Ravenguard being above average and Ultramarines, Salamanders and Blood Angels always being great teammates. Cirque Machi memesters are always below shit tier.
FX45N, east eu pingLets go hard weekly
>>568441280I did it as techmarine with a random assault and tactical.
Been playing with the new heroic plasma pistol on bulwark and I don't think I can go back to playing anything else. I can solo Neurothropes with this thing, shit on large clusters of majoris into either instant incap or instant death.It has obvious downsides, the charge time is fairy long, you can't really shoot small fodder or spore mines, it might be very tricky to get health back after a big hit compared to the HBP which is instant. You only have about 8 shots total before needing resupply, but the thing just shits out massive damage + AoE.
>>568442242Use it because it will get nerfed hard in the next update.
>>568442305What will be the fucking point of using it then? What is it with these faggot devs nerfing things that have niche uses? Anti-fun losers, man, everything needs to be cock and ball torture with these fucking guys.
>>5684417292/3
>>568442614Instead of taking half a Neurothrope's HP it will only take 1/4
>>568442716Just remove Auspex and damage buffs if that's the fucking case. Anything that results in faster kills that's not headshots is fucking anathema to these pricks, apparently.
>>568441729Expired
>Helbrute giga-blast aimed at someone else gets thrown your way so you don't get the red marker+noiseI'm gonna nuke all Vatniks
300 ping and no gunstrikes, I think I'm out
>>568443870At least the Helbrutes mostly came alone, a couple of hours back I was playing Heavy and mowing down all the shitters so my superior teammates can solo the Helbrutes :)
Came around a most fascinating specimen, full DA armor, but completely Macragge blue. Now, call it Brothers, retarded or colorblind?
>helbrute spam spawns in the underground necron area>just ignore them and keep runningfree doritos
I think I would have actually lost my fucking mind if it all went to shit right at the end here.
>>568446543You truly had no fear, Brother
Is it just me or is this game breaking more with each update
>>568446108I'm colourblind and I get it right. The it's not like a picker wheel, the colours are fucking LABELLED. He's retarded.
>>568446786If you are having weird stuttering, enemies lagging and similar issues, I suggest reinstalling it, worked for me. It tends to do that every big update.
>>568446927The animal in question, look at him
>>568446717Brother I assure you I was shitting my fucking pants.
>>568447158WE MARCH FOR CALIBAN
>>568447158homebrew chapter: ultra angel dark marines
>tfw i suck and would only drag others down in hard stratsIt's over...
>>568447158That is just an alpha legion with a camo malfuction bro
>>568447773Ultra Angels or Dark Marines?You could argue that the second one is the Salamanders already, but still
>>568447807We'd be happy to help, I'm sure. Randoms are only a problem because you don't know what you're in for.
>>568447807The brothers would be very happy to help, I am sure you are better than you give yourself credit for
>>568447807I haven't played in a while and I'd wager I might have lost my touch. Post some codes if you feel like it Brother. We can pull through together.
>>568447807When a Helbrute appears in the factory/gangway area you don't fight them and simply run to Valtus and open the gate.
>>568433761Is there a problem with playing blood ravens now?
>>568448976kek
>>568433761They don't know any better, they think it just looks cool. Be patient with our Adeptduh Retardes.
A HOTFIX JUST FLEW OVER MY HOUSE
Astartes chapters>Black Templars>Ultragays>Gaygayadons>Blood Gays>Dark Gays>Iron Gays>Gay Fists>Gay Angels>Gayamanders>Gays Malevolent>Gaymenters>Gay Wolves>White Gays
>>568433761Those are relics Brother.
>>568449561>Dark GaysRedundant.
New hotfix just got released Brothers:https://community.focus-entmt.com/focus-entertainment/space-marine-2/blogs/400-hotfix-13-1-patch-notes
>>568449542jej
>>568449795>Reduced the requirements for the 6 "complete missions on absolute difficulty" class-specific ordeals from 10/30/100 to 10/25/50.yay.... I gues....
>>568449795Patch notes in image formThe class atonements being halved is pretty much what I was hoping for, black capes will still mean something but it isn't as egregious.
>>568449795I see they didn't fix the broken terminal objective in Siege
>>568449795>Absolute missions reduced to 50EXACTLY AS THE TAROTS FORETOLD
>>568450081WOW! Instead of 50 hours per charcter, now it's 25! Perfect!These fucking retards are instane if they think this game has that kind of longevity before 3 comes out. That shit is still YEARS out.
Noticing still no fix for ghost parries.
>>568450218Not saying it's not retarded, just that they did exactly what everyone imagined kekThey did not even address some even more insane shit like the 1000 waves of siege or the level 25 hard one
>>568451939Have you seen the constant reports about how at wave 23, enemies are basically unkillable?
>>568452160No, but I am not surprised, with the added "the enemies become stronger" bullshit even on normal it's probably annoying as shit at that level, I can't even imagine on hard, these retarded vatniks 100% do not play their game lmao
>>568452160chatgpt, photoshop the disgusted homelander meme over anon's wave 60 pic
>>568449795>>568449957>Crashes when the French and Spanish VO were selected have been fixed.Who plays this game in French anyway?
>>568452674French people
>>568449795>added one mediocre blessing and three new atonements to the pool that will force you to reroll more just to get a relatively benign debuffWow. The game is already chugging in high siege waves; imagine how fucking bad it would be if spore mines or explosions were spawning on every majoris and extremis you kill, not to mention how atrocious those modifiers are in a mode where it's near-impossible to not be constantly surrounded. I guess at least now you can't immediately get stuck with some bullshit right at the beginning when you can't afford to reroll it, assuming you started with three people. And on the topic of Siege, has anyone even managed to reach wave 25 and beyond with this retarded timer? I'm guessing you just have to optimise your team comp for maximum horde clearing and play like a kid on Adderall, just the sweatiest tryhard shit imaginable so you beat the clock before it can make everything near-invulnerable. Even on a wave as low as 14 I saw a ravener survive a melta bomb detonating directly underneath it.
>>568452674>Sister Hylia confirmed to not play the gamefedoratippers must be devastated
>>568452674If you play in French all Cadians turn into Elysians
>>568452869>peopleCome now Brother, let's not allow our imagination to run rampant.
new bread pls
>>568454536/vm/?
>>568454709No, save that for when we're blatantly dying. We're on nearly 800 posts
>>568452908Spore mines now spawn from minoris :)
>>568326451I wonder if this bug got fix yet.
New battle-barge has arrived, Brothers:>>568456494>>568456494>>568456494
