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>Snoot Game:
https://snootgame.xyz/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LU0agHKd3oU

>I Wani Hug That Gator:
https://hugthegator.xyz
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gLktsDflPWU

>Exit 665
https://exit665.xyz/
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T9nXyUye3pg

>Ashfall
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csQ5xLtdx9M

https://cavemanon.itch.io/volcaldera-ashfall-story-teaser

>Socials
https://www.youtube.com/@cavemanonstudios/videos
https://x.com/cavemanon
cavemanon.xyz

>Greentext Mega:
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1z_t78oJm_ZDHbFgKp6ugXl6qa8gH93B9

>Archive and Anon's Snoot Archive 2.5
https://mega.nz/folder/g5NSWQpY#i76jOZwZtuxnKCSvkDzfIQ

>Snoot Mods
https://mods.snootbooru.com
https://rentry.org/snootmods

>Magma:
https://magma.com/d/sm7ChkOJuN

>Booru
https://snootbooru.com/
https://booru.cavemanon.xyz/

>Prev. Thread
https://arch.b4k.dev/vg/thread/567670620
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>>568144410
shit from a butt
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>>568144410
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>>568145119
Cute and lovely Rosa
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>>568145549
aren't they all?
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Thoughts on this ship?
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>>568148021
don't see it working out
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>>568148021
most boring ship made by people with an obvious domination, 'I can fix her' fetish.
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>>568148021
Fundamentally goes against both characters
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>>568148524
That or they're like that one miafag on the booru who wants mia to completely own him and ruin his life
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>>568148021
Inco would need to channel E3 Inco but on steroids to even stand a chance in a relationship with Mia. Maybe E4 Inco could do it too but he'd need to be like a master strategist or some shit to navigate not getting a horrible fate.
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>>568148021
crackship
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>>568148021
This also applies to Anon but I like Inco too much to ever throw him at Mia. She would ruin both of their lives if neither of them got far away from her before it was too late.
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>>568145986
Yeah!
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Holy shit I just wet farted as the turd was mid pinch in my anus and it caused a rocket propulsion effect. Now there's poo water everywhere and I'm trapped in my friend's bathroom and need to change my pants. Someone make this into an ending for Anon, Inco, or James
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>>568151349
This is John E4
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>>568148021
Mia doesn't deserve to be with anybody. And a relationship with her wouldn't last with anyone.
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>>568148021
It's garbage.
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>>568154686
Where is the bulge? This is an angel without wings.
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Thoughts on this ship?
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>>568151349
Standard snooter experience
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>>568155778
Impressive ballistics, but nothing compared to the Halford
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>>568157436
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>>568158897
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>>568155778
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8lH9P9vDGB4
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Kind of crazy how few drawings of Vanette there are, maybe she'll get more popular once the game is out.
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>>568167863
Hey Trashcan, can you draw Jack. I haven't seen him done in your style before. Also Vanette is probably considered 'offical nick' so you're probably right.
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>>568167863
cute doodles
And yeah, Vanette seems to be the dark horse of the girls in the fan art department. Maybe it's because she's got that antagonistic look, or because the competition is so steep. Cause, when Ashley, Coral, Polly, and Cathy are right there, then, well, how can she compete?
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>>568151349
>
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>>568167863
first off, lovely art as always trashcan
>how few drawings of Vanette there are
well her design is fairly busy for one, but also see picrel. nick just does everything vanette's trying to do but better, so why bother yknow? she should get a bit more art though
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>>568167863
True. Vanette's not getting much preview attention and I've a feeling it's on purpose. She and her mannerisms are gonna be central for sure.
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>>568168178
Kill yourself
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>>568170157
I adore the adorably smug.
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>>568169382
Kek
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>>568170308
I could fix her
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>>568173423
No way bud she'd just steal your shirt after cheating on you
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>>568168178
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>>568173491
That's why I'd cheat on her first. So she keeps coming back.
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>>568173589
The Lad
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>>568173589
The boy
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>>568173619
Really now?
I'm sure that'll go well for you
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>>568173589
The son
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>>568173926
Eh worse comes to worse I'll just cheat on her with Ashley and watch the whole house get burned down
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>>568174123
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time to sleep
good night, sleep tight, and stay safe out there
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>>568175784
Goodnight.
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>>568175784
May the Night be Good for you (big guy)
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>>568173635
>>568173860
>>568174110
Go samefag your faggot self insert on trash
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>>568177250
How the fuck did you know it was all me
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>>568144315
Furry "fandom" goes on >>>/trash/
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>>568177774
Quints say otherwise
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>>568177250
cope
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>>568177739
>>568178172
Kill yourself
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>>568177250
Just see him as your son anon, it’ll make sense from there.

Like imagine having these two cutes as your kids.
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>>568178482
nope
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>>568183656
Replace the dude in the cloud with Amber
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>>568144410
So far best portrait for an E4 Nick.
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>>568148524
You mean like everyone who played Snoot Game?

>>568148021
People throw a bitchfit over it for some mysterious reason, even though Mia isn't nearly as bad as Fang's situation.
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>>568184710
Determined Nick.
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>>568185745
Also conveys a feeling of maturity and self-realization.
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i hope everyone here has a nice memorial day, i'll be spending the whole day asleep
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>>568185348
>Snoot Game
You know E3 is a criticism of the fixfag mindset, right?
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>>568186024
e3 literally is a fixfag ending merged together with a milcuck's wet dream
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>>568175784
>>568185954
Gn
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>>568186140
We can't be thinking of the same game. You mean the ending where Lucy swaps one ill-fit persona out for another and goes on being miserable until Anon comes back and she latches onto him like a lost duckling? The one where she breaks off from all of her friendships, hobbies and passions then wonders why she still feels compelled to yank her own feathers out every night? What's 'fixed' about her, here? We're probably on the same page with not liking its outcomes for the characters, but you're for sure meant to notice that it doesn't 'fix' anything besides her outward presentation and her willingness to be a woman, and even that's at a cost.
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>>568186871
>What's 'fixed' about her, here?
your trad cath slave wife,sir, thats what e3 niggers want
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>>568187001
Oh, right. True!
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>>568186871
I love how you two literally agree, but still argued.
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>>568186024
>>568186871
>>568187001
Snoot Game is the quintessential I can('t) fix her game.

And yes, you do that in E3 as well. Compare that Lucy to how she ends up in E2, which is her default fate based on her own life choices.
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>>568188273
Can't help myself, sometimes. I think what I was trying to say is that E3 coming off as a tradwife fantasy is both deliberate and self-aware. It definitely wasn't written by someone who sees that as an unambiguously good outcome, and it pokes fun at the idea of 'fixing' someone by imposing your own preferences on them, which is exactly what characters like Trish and Naomi were trying to do to Fang in the first place.

>>568188358
The central thrust of it is that the only person with the ability to 'fix' someone is that same person. If that person is working from a bad position, they're going to make the wrong choices and end up worse-off, which is where support and understanding come in. The only 100% good outcome is the one where Fang, through Anon, finds the stability she needs to stand on her own feet and make better choices for herself, which wouldn't have been possible if Anon hadn't chosen to stand by her, rather than above her, which is what everyone else in a position to change her outcome has been doing up to that point. Actually fixing her means empowering her to fix herself.
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>>568186871
>You mean the ending where Lucy swaps one ill-fit persona out for another and goes on being miserable
nice headcanon retard, too bad none of it's in the game
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>>568189601
Here's your courtesy (you). Thanks for clicking on my post.
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>>568189593
>and it pokes fun at the idea of 'fixing' someone by imposing your own preferences on them

Only that doesn't happen, Anon in no way tries to turn Lucy into some ideal for himself. If anything that's one scene I would dearly wish was added into E4 - Lucy patiently explaining to Anon that him missing "Fang" isn't healthy, because that person was a self-hating, mentally broken mountain of issues.

>The only 100% good outcome is the one where Fang, through Anon, finds the stability she needs to stand on her own feet and make better choices for herself, which wouldn't have been possible if Anon hadn't chosen to stand by her, rather than above her, which is what everyone else in a position to change her outcome has been doing up to that point. Actually fixing her means empowering her to fix herself.

Only that doesn't happen in any route, including E4. In E4 we know next to nothing about post-time skip Lucy. You can literally make her into any personality you want at that point. She also isn't self-reliant, seeing as how her career was given to her on a silver platter by Spears.

And in both E3 and E4 she chooses to work with kids, only in a different age gap, so people pointing Lucy in E3 as being some miserable wreck are dishonest. She is co-dependant, that's clear, but that's realistic for a person who was this fucked up. Notice that very few people have a problem with E4 in Wani, even though it's also a fairy tale ending.
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>>568189601
Seethe little E3nig.
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>>568190108
nobody is seething e4 kiddie, go back to your shit ending that had to be patched 5 times and is still considered the worst written one
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>>568189908
>Anon in no way tries to turn Lucy into some ideal for himself
Correct, but I'm referring to the player's potential mindset, here, rather than Anon's. If someone were to come into the game looking for an alt-chick-to-tradwife simulator, E3 is what tells them that they ought to re-examine their approach.

>because that person was a self-hating, mentally broken mountain of issues
I doubt those aspects of Fang are what Anon is thinking of when he says that. A lot of the 'Fang' persona needs to go, yes, but a lot of her good qualities are tied up in it, too: her creativity, her wit, her natural idiosyncracy... y'know, the things about her we're meant to find appealing once we break through the front she puts up. it's possible to avoid throwing the baby out with the bathwater.

>In E4 we know next to nothing about post-time skip Lucy
We can infer that she's happy with where she's at, which is more than can be said for any other ending. I agree that E4 is in dire need of fleshing out (I'd actually consider E3 to be a sturdier and more complete 'story', from a technical standpoint) but her personality is easy enough to grasp. She's Fang without all the mess.

>her career was given to her on a silver platter by Spears
I don't think that reflects badly on her character arc, since it's not related to her personal growth. It's not as though her problem was needing to learn how to get things done in life under her own power.

>people pointing Lucy in E3 as being some miserable wreck are dishonest
This is the only point on which I think you're outright wrong, and seeing it repeated makes me think I'm going insane. Did I hallucinate the part where she goes on about how she's got no friends, she threw out her guitars, and she's back to self-harming? E3 Lucy's actual only shot at being happy again is by stapling herself to Anon, and that's entirely the problem.

Oh, and yes, Wani's E4 is goofy. Ben thinks he's part of the team. Poor guy.
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>>568191112
>she threw out her guitars
That one you did hallucinate. She stores them in the attic.

>and she's back to self-harming
I always read it as her unhealthy longing for Anon, rather than part of being miserable.

As to the "no friends" part I appreciate that E3 portrays her as being extremely wary of making new connections without Anon around. After all, her choice in friends is what lead her to being a few bad days away from becoming a mass murderer. I also like her mental issues, which aren't insignificant, to put it mildly, don't just disappear.

>Wani's E4 is goofy.
That ending has the opposite problem of Snoot's. What's happening between Inco and Olivia is more than fine, it's everyone around that's handled clunkily.
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>>568191423
>She stores them in the attic
Oops. I guess that tracks with the hints dropped in E3 that it might just be possible to bring back what was good about Fang.
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>>568191032
>considered worst written one
Only by a schizoid Polish man. Now go back to your crayons.
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>>568192153
lol do you jerk off to clock every hour of the day? e3 > e4 is a common sentiment
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>>568192660
Nope, you’re wrong.
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>>568191112
>Wani E4
If you actually remove the whole Mia/Ben plot it suddenly becomes realistic. The fact that even Lunara suddenly joined their lives (Liz says it in epilogue, I myself had to double check) is dumb and I headcanon everyone except Inco is accepting ben because they pity him.
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>daily "muh ending is better than yours" niggerbabble
i will rape each and every one of you
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>>568194585
Mia has very little impact on the plot in all 4 routes, funnily enough. She's more of a comic relief than an actual antagonist/foil.
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>>568194895
Actually her actions do change the outcome of what seemed to be more natural "everyone just decides to leave the other side alone due to growing stakes" instead of her pulling some dumb move on Ben and turning it into "magically everyone except mia got together o algo" ending. Ben somehow can't get meds again for some retarded reason.
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>>568194895
Mia's impact on the plot is as much as Iadakan's, she serve the purpose of having Inco and Olivia stick together. The only "real" impact is how Olivia and Inco reacts to the same events that happen (Mia cornering them, Iadakan ack!ing, etc.) Mia will act the same regardless of any ending.
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>>568196035
Iadakan actually has a massive impact on the story, though it happens off-screen - he's the one who instilled Olivia with her arrogance and sense of superiority, essentially setting the foundations for her E2 version.
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>>568192660
>e3 > e4 is a common sentiment
On opposite day, sure.
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>>568196445
What I'm trying to say is from the perspective of a reader who is aware of the plot and 4 endings, Iadakan's role is exactly the same as Damien, which is to introduce Olivia to Inco, convince both him and Olivia to hang out. And in broader sense he shares this role with Mia who creates oppurtunities for Inco and Olivia to bond. He impacts the story same way Damien does and in more broader scope Mia also impacts the story. The elevator scene for example where Olivia shows that she actually trusts Inco more than she trusts Iadakan with the whole blackmail thing happens thanks to her, which gives Inco oppurtunity to reject deciding the fate of Olivia or not. Mia impacts the plot by forcing Olivia into a corner over what Inco did, meanwhile Iadakan doesn't say anything about the art contest hijack.
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>>568196946
NTA but you'll be hard pressed to find people who think E4 is better written than E3.
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>>568197432
nah
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>>568197268
Yeah it's obvious that the massive rewrites definitely happened. Outside of Inco and Olivia the other characters are more akin to orbiting planets rather than actual actors.

It shows especially hard in E1, where you get things like Damien declaring, out of the blue, that he's frustrated at Olivia and tired of acting like her caretaker, essentially admitting he was pulling a Naomi 2.0 with the people he tried to rope into their circle.
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I want to see dragons
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>>568204497
Imagine the Greene and Elvira fankid…
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Snoot E4 is fine aside from the "break". I know the bonus chapters "fix" this by having Fang essentially accept a long-distance relationship after all, but it still doesn't explain what she expected from the break before that.
>>568191032
>patched 5 times
QRD? AFAIK there's just the slow dance on the street after prom, and the post-credits CG which wasn't ready at the time of the initial release.
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>>568205581
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>>568205581
I'm not a 100% it's the proper order of what was added, but:
>"I've kept in touch with all of them."
>The conversations in general were altered so it doesn't look as if Anon didn't even know she isn't called "Fang" anymore."
>Giving E4 Anon the chad physique.
>Throwing in the "wedding dance" which is obviously a reused asset from some different event, since it uses teenage sprites.
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>>568197772
E1 is the most interesting and best written out of the four in Wani. It's also painfully obvious it's the one closest to whatever original vision was had.
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Good morning
How we all doing?
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>>568206905
that original vision was dookey buttsauce from the ass dimension tho
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>>568157436
There's an ongoing story where this happens.
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>>568207683
My autism has struck and I have decided to, for some fucking reason, try to compile a list for the Top 100 Video Game Villains. It seems mostly like an excuse for me to prioritize what games I should play that I haven't yet but also to ramble about stuff.
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>>568206734
>>"I've kept in touch with all of them."
>>The conversations in general were altered so it doesn't look as if Anon didn't even know she isn't called "Fang" anymore."
Both of those are in the original script. "I’ve kept in touch with all of them." at L20911, F "Wha- I- dammit Anon, I told you to stop calling me that!" at L21157 of game/script.rpy.
>>Giving E4 Anon the chad physique.
Missed that, thanks.
>>Throwing in the "wedding dance" which is obviously a reused asset from some different event, since it uses teenage sprites.
I can't tell what you mean. Chad Anon doesn't look as much taller than Fang as he "should", but E4 Fang is probably wearing heels at her wedding, while E3 Lucy isn't wearing heels. Other than that, everyone's E4 sprites seem to look the same as their normal sprites aside from clothing and hair, and Trish and Naomi seem to have their longer E4 hair.
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>>568205808
More like 2 chimps at a zoo throwing shit at each other.
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>>568208108
Godspeed Anon, and my your autism guide you.
I don't know if I even know 100 video game villains if I'm being honest.
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>>568208193
>I can't tell what you mean.
I mean that E4 Anon has his "bulky physique" sprite while in the dance he's a lanklet again.
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>>568208108
I hope that you'll be putting the Practical Incarnation from Planescape: Torment in there.
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>>568208463
Decided to look and compare to the few lists on the topic before and the situation is fucking dire. The amount of times people say Gary Oak makes me want to commit crime.
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>>568208650
I don't think the list should contain a single character from a Japanese game, to be honest. Their characters, especially evil ones, always come off as a comically overdrawn satire.
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>>568208614
Not even on my radar. It is now and I'm adding it to my "Investigate" list. He looks cool that's for sure.
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>>568208650
Other than the fact that he's just a Rival and not a Villain, he's not even that antagonistic
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>>568208757
As if western ones never?
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>>568208823
People confuse "antagonist" with "villain" a lot too.
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>>568208927
Anon, we're talking about villains, not anti-heroes.
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>>568209097
lol
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>>568208491
Hm. I can't really tell with Fang covering most of his body.
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>>568208927
>>568209097
kek


Also, seeing as how Kaine is bald, and human, he'd fit right into Snoot. Perhaps as a general/leader during the Bloons or Cthonic war.
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>>568209607
Bloons more like since I think it's supposed to be implied the Cthonic war was ancient history instead of relatively-speaking-recent history.
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>>568208927
Anon, that's intentional satire. Japanese authors want their villains to be taken seriously and then half of them end up as "I want to kill everyone to end suffering" and the other half "I do evil for the lulz."
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>>568210045
nah
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What if Clock was just ai and that's why he repeats the exact same points without ever getting tired
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>>568211375
It would explain a lot.
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Clock owe me a greentext
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>>568212194
He owes a lot of people. He’ll tell you it was someone trolling as him though and he never really actually owed you anything.
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>>568212901
>He’ll tell you it was someone trolling as him though and he never really actually owed you anything
A blessing since you won't have to suffer his dogshit headcanon
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Clock needs to tell me the time
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Men, lovey dovey...
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>>568220953
Do dinosaurs really?
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>>568224123
Yes.
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>>568216083
What's her fan lore, by the way?
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>>568227427
Not too much beyond what we see in the game
Big family of generational performers, she's hard working and feels anxious from the weight of responsibility of being declared leader.
The idea she'll have to find someone to continue the family line is not a pressing issue because she has cousins and siblings, but it's probably still there in the back of her head between all the other things she's now having to think about.
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Spears vs Solly
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Does Vanette know Hoe?
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>>568231573
Spears would win
>>568232237
I don't think that'd be very likely
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>>568232672
>I don't think that'd be very likely
Why's that?
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>>568235231
Different locations for one. Probably of different social classes too, so they'd avoid each other.
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>>568235521
One's a dolled up hoe and the other is a druggie hoe. Do they not intermingle like a lawyer and rockstar?
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>>568235708
Even in the world of hoes, there's a hierarchy.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yyjUmv1gJEg
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>>568238928
What is Miquella shopping for?
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>>568240102
vitamins, supplements, and soups and rice
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>>568240787
>soup
Does Miq like Clam Chowder?
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>>568241051
She strikes me as someone who prefers beef > chicken > pork > sea food
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>>568241636
> beef > chicken > pork > sea food
If the beef was marinated, then yes I could see that. I imagine a few her brothers / cousins are probably fantastic at BBQ.
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>>568241957
Absolutely
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>>568241957
Everyone has to bring something to the table, even if it's something small like a salad. It helps strengthen the family bond and makes sure everyone has a responsibility and doesn't feel left out.
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I like Ashley
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>>568253145
She's got promise
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>>568253145
Cute Ashley! Even the shaggy one
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>>568253145
I have high hopes for her
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>>568255329
We're gonna get to fix the rabder in at least one good ending, thank god

Doesn't make the monkeybros any less insufferable
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water
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>>568261105
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>>568257003
hilarious that people feel the need to ask that
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>>568264626
It's anons either failing to believe people can learn to take accountability after making bad choices/being spineless and directed by had people, or monkeybros demanding James fucks the monkey in all good endings cus ook eek.
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>>568261105
Where?
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>>568265076
>monkeybros demanding James fucks the monkey in all good endings cus ook eek.
holy based we must lobby Cave to make it real
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>>568265657
Who brings a kid in a wheelchair to hopscotch?
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>>568269197
Unless we get a fully animated scene of a sloppy Cathy footjob under the table at Dennys I still want the rabder
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>>568269856
>Unless we get a fully animated scene of a sloppy Cathy footjob under the table at Dennys

Only allowed if she has nylons on and it's in the bedroom
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>>568269359
She just likes the company.
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>>568269856
>>568270705
Imagine the GRIP.
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>Olivia asks you to guard Eggco while she hunts the wizard who cursed him
>Inco will return to normal and be able to pay you once Olivia destroys the wizard
>If Eggco is hurt at all under your care Olivia will shred you into paste
Wyd?
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>>568274574
Make him have sex with other eggs.
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>>568274574
Eat him and become Inco myself. Sleep with Olivia then fart on her in the morning.
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>>568274574
cum on the eggco
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>>568274574
I'm already paranoid about keeping my things too close to the edge of my table so guarding eggco will be easy
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>>568274574
How much will he pay me?
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>>568274574
Shove Eggco up my ass and clench like I'm trying to hold in diarrhea on a public bus
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>>568274574
Go and kill the wizard myself while Olivia keeps Eggco save. Fuck being the one who accidentally drops him or something.
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>>568274574
Eggco over easy on my pancakes.
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More DW dinosaur
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>>568281256
Still have 2, 3, 4 and warrior to make
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>>568276785
Just get a gator wife to catch anything that rolls off
>>568281256
>>568281385
Nice!
And cute companion too
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>>568283268
A future where Hyacinth takes over
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>>568283268
In the future, everyone is a test tube baby
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I just had a realization...
I think Kaiden is Shido's self-insert, it makes sense once you take a look at his Deviantart
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Sheesh no wonder Ashley's struggling
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>>568284239
what kind of dancer though?
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>>568281256
>>568281385
>>568283268
These are some fun designs. Alas, I hate Dr. Who.
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>>568284065
You're on overtime obsessed duty today, huh?
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>>568284693
You know any dancers (that aren't lewd) who don't make poverty wages?
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>>568285243
I haven't said anything bad (?)
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>>568285701
I don't know any dancers, but I suppose ballet?
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>>568285706
God JNCO jeans suck. I love it.
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Time to sleep
Good night, sleep tight
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>>568291125
Good of Night, sleepyanon thank you for your effortposting I'll be sure to spare you from our next sacrificial vore
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>>568281256
>>568281385
Is this Physician Whom?
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>>568291125
Goodnight
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>>568285824
that does pay better. Though it requires quite a bit of specialized skill. Ashley can probably do the basics but isn't pro.
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>>568265076
>after making bad choices/being spineless and directed by had people

I hope this isn't what's happening to Ashley, because that would be literally Fang 2.0 (minus the mental illness).
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>>568301117
NTA but I hope to go it isn’t just Snoot Game all over again.

If I have one worry about Ashfall it’s Cave tripping itself over and doing fucking Snoot again.
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>>568301645
I don't think that's the case, thankfully. As many people have noticed, the set-up is literally taken straight out of copefics, which seems to point they know exactly what they're doing.
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>>568301980
lol
lmao even
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What if Jenine kissed Olivia...
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>>568301980
I hope so but it’s an insanely easy crutch to just do another saviorfag game.

I can excuse Wani because that was a snoot fanmod but Ashfall is them completely free of any limitations.
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Hey, what if Mia wasn't either a bitch or nerd like we saw in the drawings, but something like a normal person? Like a neutral Mia archetype, something something acting like a average Jane.
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>>568303827
what if instead of being normal Mia was fucking retarded
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>>568303827
>what if Mia wasn't either a bitch
More like your run-of-the-mill asshole rather than someone going out of her way to fuck with people. She's less of a bitch than either Fang or Trish.
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>>568306775
She blackmailed and bullied a crippled sperg (twice if you count ben), Fang is only worse in e1, Trish is a cunt though
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>>568307126
>Fang is only worse in e1
When the game starts Fang is so universally hated across the entire school Naomi has to grab a random guy just because he's the only one who hasn't started disliking her yet.
So no, she must've been a massive cunt to everyone around, it's just that we only see the end result.
And even then Fang fucks it up literally since her first interaction with Anon, and it's only because of Anon's passivity and his desire to keep a low profile he doesn't just immediately explode on her.

>She blackmailed and bullied a crippled sperg
She blackmailed her over something the crippled sperg actually did.
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>>568307354
Blackmail is still blackmail Clock… you’re just waifufagging right now…
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>>568307354
Blackmail only works if someone wants to hide something, and it isnt excusable just because someone did something wrong, I haven't seen evidence as to what Fang did before the game, I just assumed she was a loser whos band sucked and the gender stuff made her unpopular
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>>568307640
I'm not saying Mia is a good person, just that she isn't more than your regular high school asshole.

>>568307756
I think you need to do a little bit more to get that kind of universal hatred.
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>>568307914
Did you go to highschool? People dont need very good reasons to dogpile on someone, it seems like her music sucked and people mocked her for it, which made her lash out and stick to her friend group, also universally hated seems a bit harsh
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>>568308347
>also universally hated seems a bit harsh
Again, Naomi had to pick a fresh transfer to the school because no one else would touch her.

And it's not just the music. She willingly interacts only with Reed, Trish, and Sage. Her first reaction to anything is aggression and violence, either against people, objects, or herself. Even putting E1 aside, which isn't fair, she and especially Trish are still more violent than Mia.
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>>568306775
massively disingenuous and delusional
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>>568307640
What if the blackmail was about Olivia raping Inco in an elevator... femcel rage took over and she wanted to enact revenge on that pasty colonizer and steal his genes and force him to marry her and give her mutt kids who will take after her...
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>>568303827
What if Mia fished Olivia's floaters out of the toilet and ate them
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>>568307914
A regular high-school asshole isn't blackmailing a peer into completing her and her friend's art assignments

People dislike Fang because she's a loud sperg but Mia is far worse outside of Snoot's e1
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>>568318429
>People dislike Fang because she's a loud sperg
She's not just that, she's also openly aggressive and violent. It's also hilarious that people feel the need to put the "except E1" as if "she's fully capable of rape and murder" is something you can brush aside.
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>>568319768
Because in both Snoot and Wani, the e1s practically retroactively change the characters so they can be remotely possible. Outside the initial shock, they're both a fucking mess
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>>568320014
>Because in both Snoot and Wani
No, in Wani Olivia is still very much herself, she just loses all shyness and inhibitions for showing her ugly side. In SG E1 Fang is also herself. Remember her spiel in the gardens about "weeds" and "unnecessary people."
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>>568321297
She was 100% correct, for the record.
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>>568321297
One thing I'll admit is that I hate the whitewashing e1 Fang gets constantly
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>>568321297
if you're stupid and illiterate, yeah
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>>568322537
finally the set is complete
time to set them loose upon the world
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>>568311618
Historically the greatest act of humiliation you can commit against a society was taking their women as war brides/concubines/sex slaves. The children would often be integrated to the victorious society and their mothers would be at best integrated as well and at worst remain as ghosts who just exist as a person attachted to the conqueror until they die. Using the womb of your enemy to produce you sons and daughters who will despise their mother's ancestry is truly a cruel fate the conquerors would cast. Olivia taking Inco as husband and forever robbing his genes and descendants is the ultimate act of conquest and revenge for her native american ancestry.
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>>568322537
>>568324062
My freaks… ready to wreck havoc…
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>>568323863
why are you even itt?
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>>568322607
Does LSS also does that? Haven't played it.
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>>568324657
to discuss, unfortunately I have share the thread with mongoloid retards like you
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>>568324785
Yes. it also has severe character whiplash and multiple questionable decisions to say the least.
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>>568319768
>rape
Fang initiates, but that doesn't mean that Anon doesn't consent.
>murder
For all anyone knows, anyone (including you) is *capable* of murder; we just don't have multiple endings to jump between IRL to show it.
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>>568301980
RuGpUlL

Not happening, you're coping hard. Nerd loves saving whores, that's his thing, has been for ages. It's also a cashgrab to save Exit665 which is in development hell

You're not getting a big reveal that Ashley is a complete degenerate whore who loves everything she does, but the player caught on a bad night. That goes against the entire cashgrab point of the game.
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>>568325775
>>568324785
QRD?
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>>568326039
The capacity for murder came free with your life as a member of a species that lusts for subjugation and domination.
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>>568325229
you really think everyone on here is clock? how fucking deranged can one get
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>>568327551
didn't mention your literally who, your post is retarded by its own merits
again, stupid and illiterate
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>>568327682
I'd tell you to suck my cock but I'm fairly certain that's what you're aiming for
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>>568324785
>>568325775
>>568326464
LSS is extremely weird when handling Fang. First she jumps straight into her "default" version (we never really get to see E1 Fang, even though that should be the whole point). Then a huge chunk of the story revolves more around her family.

And then, past the time skip, out of nowhere, it's kind of, sort of portrayed that her mental illness shifted onto self-destructive tendencies rather than murderous rage/slowly decaying/becoming co-dependent.
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>>568328348
And that “self destructive” tendency was just a regular smoking habit which comically gave her throat cancer.
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>>568328626
>regular smoking habit
She said she smoked several packs a day.

But yeah, it's weak. They should've leaned more heavily onto her "punishing" herself for what happened to her life and to her family, especially once she learned Anon became an amputee.
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>>568329008
Anon being an amputee was also such a sloppy decision
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I fucking love water
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>>568329391
It's not just sloppy, it's stupid, first and foremost because it serves no purpose other than some vague karmic punishment for not fixing all the problems of a heavily mentally ill girl with an equally bad posse of enablers.

If they HA to pull such a maneuver, as I've hinted at above they should've leaned heavily into Fang seeing it as somehow being her fault, which in turns deepens her self-destructive impulses.
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>>568329751
It's pretty good
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>>568329751
coral....
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>>568331735
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>>568332839
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>>568333118
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>>568333118
Kill the shork
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>>568336230
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VHo2mEg10zo
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>>568306569
We got that already.
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>>568336528
Cute shork
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>>568338785
It's true
looks good in armor too
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>>568339236
Polly!
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>>568340023
polly olly oxenfree!
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>>568340023
cute polly
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>>568340023
All of this reeks of some upcoming subversion:
>not!Stella >>568340023
>not!Anon >>568339236
>not!Mia >>568342571
>not!Fang >>568269856
They're like SG characters in a warped mirror.
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>>568343530
1: smooth and cool
2: Casual and fun
3: Cutest and cuddliest (best)
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>>568345087
1: Casual cute (best)
2: Super cute
3: Silly cute
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>>568343138
It's either this or the devs really are just retreading SG, or making an "official" version of it.
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>>568343138
Cope.

We're, at best, gonna get a reveal that Ashley used to prostitute herself and desperately wants out but doesn't know how to break the cycle. Probably less than that. This is going to be saviorslop, as much as I hate to say it because it's a tired trope. Nerd already confirmed they will be together in one of the good endings. The "she inevitably cheats on James" leak is a confirmed lie, something the leaker has continued to say was someone else despite writing with the exact same style before and after that was addressed.

There's no indication Coral is going to be anything like Mia. Compare the character charts released for both, the personalities aren't anywhere similar even from the fragments both showed.

Polly is going to just introduce levity with OC autism and getting stuck to the ceiling. She's not going to play any major role.

James isn't fucking the monkey again. She's probably just going to be a character we run into a handful of times who comments on how the player is progressing James.

The second love interest is going to be Vanette, who will only get James off liquor by getting him on hard drugs, and he's gonna die alone in a ditch.
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>>568345946
We already had an 'official' SG, though.
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>>568346157
>>568343138
>The "she inevitably cheats on James" leak is a confirmed lie, something the leaker has continued to say was someone else despite writing with the exact same style before and after that was addressed.

Because it was. Writing in full sentences isn't a "style."

As to the rest - I guess that's the pessimistic version, though it doesn't jive with what I've been told by the person who first revealed to me the game is being made in the first place. They indicated it's very much intentionally similar to so-called "E2 copefics," probably the most prolific - and samey - stories in the setting.
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>>568348638
>Just bread and lettuce
She should be HANGED for this.
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>>568350551
she's a vegetarian though...
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>>568348549
I don't doubt it's intentionally similar to E2 copefics, but I seriously struggle to see how they're going to convincingly pull off some mega rugpull that's supposed to imply Ashley is largely unsalvageable, when we've already confirmed there's going to be a good ending with her and James as a couple. There's only so much you can really throw into her past and still make any good ending with them work. Yet we know there's going to be one.

I get wanting something different but I just don't see it.

Also, it wasn't just writing in full sentences. It was the cadence and tone being identical, with the same info being posted like that in multiple threads for over a month until the issue was addressed. Then the excuses started. Please.
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>>568351364
Mein nigger, it was someone having fun and obviously spamming the info to get a reaction. Which he did.

>but I seriously struggle to see how they're going to convincingly pull off some mega rugpull that's supposed to imply Ashley is largely unsalvageable

If I were to guess, it's not going to be a subversion in that she'll be completely toxic to James, but to the player. Essentially the old Kimi to Kanojo to Kanojo no Koi maneuver.
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>>568351898
>If I were to guess, it's not going to be a subversion in that she'll be completely toxic to James, but to the player.

So in other words "look, we made it work here, you fixed her, but good fucking luck if you try this in real life"

Meaning the saviorslop fags get what they want anyways?
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>>568352162
No, I mean that whatever her sordid past/unsavory activities Ashley has gone through, James will not mind them, but your typical romance VN player very much will, to the point he might intentionally sabotage the relationship.
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>>568352385
Gotcha

I mean good on the devs for giving everyone a path to choose. My past is full of sin and hedonism so I'm probably gonna stick with Ashley since I'm not better and would enjoy seeing someone else dig themselves out of a rut. I just hope they don't make that path lean hard into fixing her shit for her.
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>>568352064
Why is the axe blade shaped like that?
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>>568352887
You use the other end like a hook/for piercing.
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>>568352887
Fire Axes are meant to be able to chop down and clear out debris/doors. Head shape allows you to do that
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Clock’s funny when he tries to dindu.
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>>568352385
an entire mod for wani was born out of that idea
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>>568353483
The Mia mod?
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>>568353390
>Posts for months in his exact style including the cheating leak
>No posts that don't include this, ever, as archives show
>Suddenly it's revealed the cheating leak is a hoax
>Questions the validity of every other leak in question since it's all from the same source
>"That wasn't me, nevermind that no leak posts without the cheating thing we're ever posted. It wasn't mean I swear"

Curious
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>>568354309
Spinning a perpetually bizarre web.
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>>568353679
"I Don't Wani Forgive that Gator"

>>568354309
The cheating "leak" only appeared once the game was officially announced. At least get your headcanon straight.
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>>568353390
Who is clock??
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>>568356728
the nick poop guy
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>>568356728
Fic commenter and greentext writer that loves to repeat his headcanons a lot.
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>>568357334
Can you post an actually good greentext he did?
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>>568362303
She really is a dumb lizard brained trigger.
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I can fix her
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>>568368713
Her being romanceable would be the single biggest surprise, I think.
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>>568368962
Gerome route
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>>568368962
Having any alternative romance would be welcome, although Cathy is the obvious choice here. It would be weird as Hell to underline her important from the first minutes of the game, and then have her fade into the background.

I also disagree with people who think James calls her "the love of my life" because he's drunk/hungover.
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>>568368962
or coral, since me likey that sharky
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Done with snoot DW
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>>568369979
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>>568369979
kek
Nice work
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>>568368713
I can fix them with Ashley both
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>>568369504
Guy who's never been/been around drunkards and seen their melodramatic self pity parties and overanalyzes one line while deliberately ignorong the context raises his head again
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>>568369917
Praying for a Coral route where they hang out a lot and realize the house is just too dramatic with two pillheads in it, so they move out together. Bonus points if they take Polly with them and leave the junkies to rot
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>>568369917
>>568369504
>One girl is the idealistic fairy tale ending where you forgive the degenerate (and she gets off scott-free)
>One is the hopeful ending, you get your shit together and get back with your sweetheart (she will control your life... for your own good, of course)
>One is getting together with the laid-back shark girl to just go with the flow (and stagnate hand-in-hand)
>The final ending is getting tempted by the wicked and the sinful (she will love the actual you, not an image that she imagined or planned)

Of course they don't have the balls to do that.
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>>568370370
suck my dzilki
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>>568370590
>forgive the degenerate

Are we just pretending that James didn't lay a ton of pipe in college? Yeah, it's not stripping, but it's still hedonism. I'm betting he only started disliking it after 1) there were a bunch of saurians involved and 2) the consequences of it finally slapped him in the face.

I'm gonna bet money Cathy didn't only dump him for alcoholism. He 100% cheated on her while drunk too.
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>>568370839
Deepthroat Polly's bad dragon strap on
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>>568370924
>Are we just pretending that James didn't lay a ton of pipe in college?

No, because:
1. Cathy is his high school sweetheart.
2. He is visibly disgusted by the casual sex around.
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>>568370924
>>568372027
are we all forgetting that he has a fear of saurian claws and teeth? the guy was 100% assaulted and/or raped at some point; I'm actually afraid the game will include massive flashback or, even worse, non-linear order of chapters
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>>568370924
>Are we just pretending that James didn't lay a ton of pipe in college?

This was my thought too. I don't buy Cathy being his HS sweetheart or anything like that.

It's also common for rape victims to compensate with sex. In this setting, I'd imagine being assaulted/raped by saurians could easily cause him to pursue casual sex with humans/simians as a coping mechanism. I'd bet that's how he met Cathy, it's just that relationship actually stuck. For how long, who knows?
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>>568374519
So, from what little the teaser tells us, you're getting that James is a rape victim? You have, to put it constructively, an incredibly creative imagination.
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>>568374829
I wasn't the anon who suggested he was raped, I was just floating with the idea for the sake of argument. My personal theory is he just saw to many mauling videos on LiveLeak
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>>568372027
>1. Cathy is his high school sweetheart.

No shot

2. He is visibly disgusted by the casual sex around.

Yeah, you can be disgusted by mass casual sex at a party and still lay a ton of pipe through other methods
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>>568374519
>>568375202
>Ashley is a drug-addicted stripper.
>Everyone defends milady's honour and paints her as a poor, pure angelic victim.

>James had a years-long relationship, refuses drugs and any attempts at flirting, including from Ashley.
>HE'S A MANWHORE HE CHEATED HE FUCKED AROUND THE SLUT.

I see the white knight brigade is already here.
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>>568374829
Not raped, but probably assaulted at some point in his life, he's specifically afraid of teeth and claws.
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>>568376472
>Everyone defends milady's honour and paints her as a poor, pure angelic victim.

Nobody is doing that, retard. I, for one, explicitly expect she's whored herself out and I want the story to revolve around accountability and redemption. I doubt she still enjoys the lifestyle, but she probably did at one point. It would be fitting if James had a similar sleezy past. Not identical, but similar.

He's also objectively hot, if you think he didn't have plenty of casual sex you're either a) someone way too attached to the idea of him and Cathy having an idealic HS sweetheart relationship, or b) a nigger

>refuses drugs

Day drinking religiously is also degenerate as fuck, and you know this

>any attempts at flirting, including from Ashley.

Because he didn't want dinos to touch him. That says nothing about his past with casual sex with those closer to his species.

Stop being a nigger. A story of two degenerates fixing themselves would be Kino. You just want monkey pussy, be honest.
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>>568377487
>A story of two degenerates fixing themselves would be Kino. You just want monkey pussy, be honest.

Trvke
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>>568377487
Only everything you write about James is pure headcanon and directly contradicts his own internal monologue.

As opposed to Ashley, we know exactly what happened to him, why he's drinking and how he fucked up his life. He isn't some life-long, slow-burn alcoholic. By his own admission he became disillusioned by the life he was leading and crashed and burned within a few months.

The only mystery left is what exactly happened to him in order for him to be afraid/hateful of saurians.
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>>568378039
>He isn't some life-long, slow-burn alcoholic.

Yeah, no shit. You don't have to day drink daily for years to use alcohol in degenerate ways. There is zero chance he was some pure good boy who'd been with Cathy since senior year of HS and then just started out of nowhere. He more likely had a less unhealthy relationship with booze but still drank a fair bit, as attractive college kids tend to do. Quandale also knows him, despite the fact James can't remember his name, and James doesn't seem to have played sports. Q doesn't seem to think James is out of place at the party scene either, so I'd wager he knows him because he's seen James (and whatever friend group he used to have) at parties in the past, albeit those with less saurians.
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>>568378693
>Quandale also knows him, despite the fact James can't remember his name

That's because James had some racist outburst that made him infamous at the campus, you didn't pay attention. Even random junkies recognize him.

The rest is again your headcanon. James's situation is outlined very clearly.
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>>568378942
Not that other Anon but where tf did this happen? Do I need to replay the teaser?
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>>568379116
It's mentioned during the party.
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>>568379250
Yeah I just looked. All that was mentioned was Quandale telling him not to say that shit on campus. No indication he's done it once, seems more like a general "hey man don't go saying that shit out in public". I've had to say similar to friends, not like they ever did anything in public to prompt it. It does seem like he's worried James MIGHT say something tho if he's drunk enough.

Reminds me of the time a buddy of mine started fent folding outside a club and flicking off black dudes. We left him to fight that battle alone. No chance we were getting our asses beat on his behalf.
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>>568379661
>accuses people of headcanon for speculating
>literally makes up his own headcanonon

Classic
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>>568379661
There's also this, and James mentions prior to entering the party that he's been suspended and lost his scholarship.
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At this point give him a black beanie and a sweater. Come on, people, it's obvious what they're doing.
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>>568379847
I'm literally reading through the history and nowhere does he say he was suspended, certainly not for screaming a slur. He probably failed classes cus it was too much for him to handle, something he does explicitly comment on. But being dropped for academic failure isn't the same as suspension for behavioral problems.

I'm guessing he was pursuing a busy law degree or something that makes you take a million courses a semester. He also comments on debt, which tracks, because he has to reimburse whoever gave him that scholarship.
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>>568380379
Writing a more realistic series of events and pathways compared to copefics? I thought that was obvious.
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>>568380642
>and nowhere does he say he was suspended, certainly not for screaming a slur
It's mentioned in one of the lore blurbs outside the game he's being kicked out of the dormitory, which is why he moves in with Ashley.
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>>568381876
Well yeah, that happens when you lose your scholarship.

That says nothing about him screaming a slur on campus and becoming infamous for it. You're just headcanoning your own stuff now like the other guy.
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>>568382151
>That says nothing about him screaming a slur on campus and becoming infamous for it.

What do you think Quandale >>568379847 refers to? That he would get suspended for screaming a slur during a drug-fuelled orgy? I thought it obvious he's alluding to something James did at university that got him suspended.
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>>568382457
...because James expressed bigotry against saurians, is drunk, and it's not a leap to think if he gets too hammered he might say something stupid and start a fight? Like drunk people can easily to do since alcohol removes people's filter?

Have you never had to deal with a friend who might let a slur slip if they're too wasted? That doesn't at all imply he has already done so in public and made a scene before. His own internal dialogue is much easier read as he couldn't keep up with the coursework, so he lost his scholarship and the dorm it paid for. Frankly I don't think James is stupid enough to scream a slur and make a scene in public. If his hate ran that deep I doubt he would have helped Ashley, he would have just dipped.
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>>568382457
>>568383063
NTA, but I can see it both ways. What I found ironic is that James seems to be the only decent person out of everyone in that teaser.
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>>568383589
Yeah, like MAYBE he did something stupid and made a scene, but I doubt it. I just don't think he's that socially aware.

Also, replaying it, I forgot he and Cathy have apparently been split up for some time. He explicitly comments it's "been a minute" since they last spoke, but that he's back now and can change. How long that's been, I don't know. Makes me wonder if maybe she broke up with him cus he wasn't keeping up with coursework and putting in his all. He apparently started drinking before they broke up, but spiraled even worse after with the habit. Eesh. Hits too close to home.
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>>568383796
I meant "socially unaware", sorry
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>>568383589
To my mind, that's the whole point. He's an inherently good man who's tortured himself to the point of being unable to recognise his own goodness. I got some echoes of the protagonist of Crime and Punishment from him. It's probably extremely pseud of me to compare a dinosaur VN to classical literature, but hey. If I had to guess, the point of his arc will be to guide him into rediscovering the genuinely good guy that he buried under his own angst.
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>>568384039
I think that Ashley will be a negative influence for him.
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>>568384307
Maybe in ending 1 or 2, but if you think thats the case for the good endings then I think you're in denial
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>>568384645
Yeah, Nerd confirmed they do have a good ending. Either the player can be turned off by Ashley's past and burn the relationship to the ground/pursue whoever else is an option, or get over it and help her out.

I'd guess the reveal of whatever is supposed to turn off a lot of players will be fairly early on, maybe at the end of the demo when it's released. There needs to be enough time for the other love interest to be pursued.

It better be Coral. Shussy can fix him. Points for if it's revealed her detachment is just a coping mechanism for living with junkies. It'd be neat if she was revealed to be a more complex character with financial struggles around her family business and that's what she needs help with so they can both get the hell out of dodge.
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>>568368713
How could such an attractive character wear such an ugly bra?
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>>568385103
Personally I really doubt that there's going to be alternate character routes, there's not much evidence for it, not to say that it wont happen, but I like to base any of my assumptions on observable history, which in Cavemanon's case is 1 love interest
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Just Nicked in my pants
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>>568386281
The Vanette route is saving her from her taste in clothes and getting her to go braless all the time
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>>568391641
dawg shirt
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>>568394669
James with the dawg on him... dawg James...
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>>568394669
>>568394765
Dog shirt James has wool socks that he can use to get a static charge going and zap people
He's therefore the strongest
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>>568394765
What if the dawg broke free and left the shirt?
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hiking with raptors
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good night snooters
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>>568401682
Goodnight
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>>568401682
the gecko
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Xj4UOEj_hY
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Wonder if Anne is gonna make chibis of Ashfall
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>>568400349
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Are all ankylos naturally fat by default or no
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>>568386281
She hasn’t nobramaxxed yet, like all tatted girls should.
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>>568410467
nah, if it were the case stegos would have to be fat too
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time to sleep
goodnight, sleep tight, and stay safe out there
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>>568411897
Goodnight.
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>>568407050
Going to your rabder girlfriend's job to surprise her, but you went during "THAT" shift
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>>568411897
Goodnight
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>>568415118
She makes it out... eventually.
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>>568386448
>there's not much evidence for it
Cathy being such a prominent character highly points to her being an option.

>>568400349
It's hilarious to me how universally her pairing up with Ben in E4 is ignored, no matter the medium.
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>>568422112
>highly prominent
She’s gonna have a Liz tier presence.
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>>568422497
I prefer to be optimistic and assume the game wasn't rewritten from the ground up at the last minute. Plus James calls her the love of his life and says he wants a second chance.

Would be fun if Ashley's infatuation with James was completely one-sided.
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>>568422993
James was drunk and desperate for a home.
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>>568424828
He thinks that at the party, when looking at the unconscious Ashley. Something along the lines of "she deserves a second chance, just like I do with Cathy." He isn't drunk at the party, he had one beer.
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>>568425160
So an obvious set up of him and Ashley. Cathy threw him out of his life, he doesn’t want to do the same with Ashley.
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>>568425426
I'm wondering how either will develop a romantic interest. My guess is it will come from Ashley.

James has too much going against it:
>visibly disgusted by saurians,
>also afraid of them on a physical level,
>still in love with Cathy,
>zero interest in casual sex,
>disgusted by druggies,
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>>568422497
Nope.
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>>568425649
>visibly disgusted by saurians,
I don't remember this being in the teaser aside from his fear of them.
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Good morning
How we all doing?
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>>568437331
Doing alright and you?
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>>568437715
Doing good
Waking up and getting my coffee going
Looking forward to making progress on oc stuff
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>>568438331
Sweet.
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>>568433197
He literally calls them "things."
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>>568437331
i am become anon, annihilator of coffee
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>>568440242
Same here, bother
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>>568437331
Finally listened through all of Operation: Mindcrime. Should've done it sooner.
https://youtu.be/J8Dc511JVc8
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>>568441518
And here I was looking for something to listen to while I work
Thanks Anon, it sounds pretty good so far
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>>568442385
The latter half has the best songs Queensryche ever did.
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>>568440242
Why are you so obsessed with that group? Can't you at least make them a bit interesting?
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>>568444475
NTA but they are interesting, they have that proper level of disfunction you expect in high school friend groups.
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>>568444989
They're not. They follow the "blandly nice + a quirk" even more than other fankids.
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>>568445245
At least know the shit you try to criticize lmao.

The Bayous are THE most divergent of this formula. Their whole friend group is practically held up by a thread as all members of it have a variety of intolerance with each other and just try to band aid their issues.

The two most friction making people of the group (Jack and Iris) are anything BUT blandly nice.
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>>568445663
Jack is being consequently smoothed out into following the formula. The same with Elvira.

Putting that aside, you already have a thread on /trash/ where 90% of all discussion is about fankids.
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>>568445859
Jack is hardly being pushed to that, he’s still a cretinous dickhead with a superiority complex.

>Putting that aside, you already have a thread on /trash/ where 90% of all discussion is about fankids.

This thread isn’t some separate topic safe space for you.
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>>568446006(me)

Also disagree with Elvira too, she’s one of the only fankids with an active resentment/disagreement with her mom.
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>>568446265
Which is something I came up with, otherwise she'd be just as bad as the rest. But it's been diluted already - she was supposed to actively despise her, being essentially raised by Nova.
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>>568446006
>This thread isn’t some separate topic safe space for you.
No, but you don't have to flood two threads with it, right?
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>>568446479
That’s just anons still wanting cute family stuff.

>>568446614
Nobody’s flooding anything, you can broach a topic in either thread anytime and ignore whatever else isn’t in your interest. It’s what I do.
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>>568446853
>That’s just anons still wanting cute family stuff.
Then maybe don't choose a person who would abort her pregnancies.
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>>568444475
>>568445245
shut the fuck up already
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>>568447459
I’m gonna give you a big fat NO, to that.
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Olivia and Inco watching some anime
Please forgive the inaccuracy of Olivia not using Inco as a pillow
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>>568447459
disingenuous, try again
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>>568447565
Peak
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Meteor
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>>568450304
Anon's sperm hitting Fang's they/them womb
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>>568450304
kino
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>>568425160
>he isn't drunk at the party

Yes, he is. You don't go from as fucked as he was at Cathy's to stone cold sober with an hour nap on a lawn, which is the only time that lapsed between them. He's gone from nearly blacked out to more of the "Goldilocks zone" of drunk though since he doesn't start slamming beers.

Goddamn monkeybro learn something about drinking/drunks for once in your life.
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>>568451249
trying too hard
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>>568447565
They're always so cute together.
>Please forgive the inaccuracy of Olivia not using Inco as a pillow
Hope you save that idea for the future.
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>>568452387
It's ever in my mind
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>>568450621
How sorry is the state of zoomer sex lives when they grovel and beg for some gross moron who can't tell if she's a girl or boy.
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>>568451249
He isn't drunk. Notice how different his stream of thoughts is later on in the teaser compared to the start. He's sobering up as the story goes along.
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>>568458475
Agreed. Plus shitty beer isn't good for carrying a buzz unless you shotgun it.

That said I think the other guy is reading way too much into the "love of my life" line from James. It's super common for people to think the person who dumped them was "the one". I think Cathy's role will be more as a judge of how the player is making James change.

Plus if that guy was right and James did make an infamous scene shouting a slur at saurians, him adapting to living with 3 of them (and a shark) is probably going to be a good indicator he can change his life.
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>>568444475
Catering to fankidfags is the easiest way to get attention
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>>568461060
I think Cathy WILL be a viable alternative romantic option for players who learn whatever truth there is about her and decide that there are limits to their tolerance.
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>>568461327
>>568461060
about Ashley*
Sorry, my mistake.
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>>568461219
Tell us what you like so they can cater to you instead
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>>568461327
If they do go this route I hope it involves a lot of effort on the Players part. Like, you can't just find out Ashley used to whore herself out or something and then toss her to rot. You don't have to date her, but you do have to try to have some maturity about it and at least help her out as a friend. Cathy would probably need to be impressed by James handling something like that maturely so it shows he's not being such a selfish and complacent piece of shit anymore.

Mostly I think this should be the case because I feel like whatever bad endings are in store for Ashley, they can't be separated from James ending up with a bad outcome too. Like Ashley getting obsessed with him if he pushes her away, harassing him while high, and mauling him. Or something like that.
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>>568462079
Canon characters and not literally whos that have as much personality as the black background cutouts
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>>568463324
You are such a whiny bitch
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>>568463119
The set-up for the story is too similar to every E2 copefic under the Sun, so I think what you're saying might be close to the truth.
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>>568464282
Yet you are the one crying that I don't like your colorful mary sues
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Am I the only one who thinks that Nerd's answer on the whole cheating angle was strange?
>I asked the crew and they said the game doesn't explore adultery.
Why not just a simple "no?"
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>>568464862
Cuz Nerd is a faggot.
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>>568465129
But he did answer the question about the endings with just "yes." That's why I'm puzzled.
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>>568464862
Praying he meant they won't have Ashley cheat on James, but give players who hate her past the chance to cheat on her and make her spiral.

I need the option to fuck the gecko out of spite if we find out Ashley loved whoring herself out.
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>>568464862
Idk the answer was a pretty clear "no", just followed up with a more disgusted "no fucking way"

I don't think it being in quotes means anything other than it was commentary from other devs.
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E2 will be an Ashley Cathy cat fight that ends with Ashley in prison, jailbird Ashley
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>>568466556
E5 will be James impregnating Vanette
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>>568464746
trying way too hard
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>>568466784
E6 is James getting a harem ft. boywife Gerome.
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>>568467410
E7 will be James marrying Ashley's widow mother
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>>568467670
E8 will be James marrying Ashley's ghost dad



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