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Heat Wave Edition

>Latest patch:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/05-22-2026-update.135477/

>Steam Page:
https://store.steampowered.com/app/1422450/

>Where to leave feedback and report bugs:
https://forums.playdeadlock.com/

>How do I git in?
Post your Steam profile and ask. You need to accept a friend request to be invited, so don't be a sperg.

>How do I git gud?
Do the tutorial, get a feel for each hero in sandbox mode, explore public item builds, watch replays. Playing a Hero for the first time will put you into a lower rank game*, so don't worry about it too much.

Additional Resources:
>Unofficial Wiki
https://deadlock.wiki/
>Collection of useful character builds
https://deadlockmeta.com/
>New Player Guide
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1lMBE7Nli_sVJ42d-kPHjF3MBaXZdIM46gNJQC_fMGMU/
>Advanced Movement Guide
https://www.dlmovement.wiki/
>Unofficial Stat Tracker (Unreliable due to API rate limits)
https://statlocker.gg/
https://tracklock.gg/
>Unofficial Competitive News
https://edl.gg/
>Unofficial Voiceline Viewer
https://deadlock.vlviewer.com/

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Sex with Venator
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DEAD DOG SHIT GAME BY A DOG SHIT COMPANY
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Silver needs buffs. If you disagree you're bad at the game.
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>>568242148
>>568242151
>>568242254
t.
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gotta ru-AAAACK
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I LOVE VICTOR
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I feel like CC has gotten stronger at the same rate being able to dodge CC has, and that's why the game feels less fun compared to "the old days" (whatever that is for you)
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"Silver is bad in high elo"
- Ascendantus Larpius XVIII, who believes Ascendant 2 is high elo
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>>568242734
>He thinks winrates matter even in eternus
Enjoy your shiv buffs if that's the case.
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Geist is F tier in eternus on statlocker, she NEEDS buffs
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>>568242734
Alchemist silvers are more op than phantom silvers.
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>>568243629
>>He thinks winrates matter even in eternus
>Enjoy your shiv buffs if that's the case.
- Ascendantus Larpius XVIII, who believes Ascendant 2 is high elo
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Remove the urn. Nobody liked it before and now that they've tried to "fix" it, it's even worse. No one will miss it.
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did they really buff celeste
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>>568242734
I mean ASC II *should* be high elo hopefully things change.
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>>568242006
I wanna spread paige's cheeks and SNIFF
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>>568244492
replace it by making the top players on both teams have to fight smash melee style to win the souls
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>>568244050
revert gun falloff nerfs, let m1gger geist be good.
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>>568242345
If silver is so op explain this pic
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>>568242393
sorry ivy but victor isn't into you. not because you're a gargoyle but because you're latina
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>>568245012
Eternus players fly away as silver so in eternus she would have been 1/5
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If you think crime doesn't pay, you are outrageously bad at crime.
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How did those 2 nerfs send him straight from S tier to shit tier, were they really that big?
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>>568245580
He's now hard to play instead of the easiest hero in the game, he's still S tier.
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>>568245059
dont care
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>>568244971
Its not that, you need to remember geist is a combination m1gger.
They have to revert 2 nerfs if you want her to come back bigly.
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>>568245580
Hes balanced now, deadcock metaslave goycattle hate it when heroes are balanced so the only people left playing him are people just now trying him out for the first time and learning the feel of his gameplay. This explains the low winrate

He is by no means bad
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>>568245580
he can't just shove his asshole up your nose and leave with riposte now still good people just need to adept
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>>568244492
Remove the urn, add actual wave management mechanics. It's completely retarded that you can't freeze and farm or set waves so you can rotate and pressure at the same time.

>>568244971
No, you will like your bullets going less far than a child can throw a ball, and you will like it. The gun gameplay is just preformative marketing, everyone knows the core gameplay will always be aoe spirit slop and CC rapetrains BeCAuSe ItS mADe bY ThE SaMe PEoPlE wHO mAdE DOTa
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Would Wraith really say that?
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>>568246052
To Pocket? Maybe, nonbinary people are famously racist so they probably started it with Wraith
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GT is either stupidly OP or I'm smurfing in Archanist. 11+ kills and 20+ assists per game on my first 5 games, more than +100 every game. Never really tried him before, but after getting a whiff of him, I may have found my next main.

I think one reason I'm having so much success is people don't respect how much damage GT can shit out while staying mobile. They run out of mouse space tracking me with 5 stamina while I just need to flick a little bit every time my 1 is up. They think they have the drop on you because they have the long range hero in a close range duel... but the trap is so easy to hit.
The execute range is also ridiculous. I often execute people at 40%HP before I even get my stacks and items. All while being completely safe.
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>>568246339
GT is stupidly, hilariously, horrendously overpowered. Every single ability Gay Talon has is the gayest fucking ability in the game
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>>568246005
>It's completely retarded that you can't freeze and farm or set waves so you can rotate and pressure at the same time.
No fuck this shit. Shoving a wave is the only mechanic that deadlock needs.
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Yoshi said there was a major update coming up in addition to this patch didn't he?
Or am I on copium
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>>568246510
He said it was too early to take about like a week ago.
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>>568246339
GT is viable for pro play, but he is a bit shaky.
The people in your ranks definitely don't know how to bring him down though so he is just mister log shooter and infinite scaling there.
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I still think the removal of the 4th lane was a mistake. I understand that trying to solve its problems was costing development time, but how many urn revisions are we on now? Working out the kinks is kind of the point. They bitched out because the playercount was bottoming when it wasn't supposed to be as high as it was to begin with. Yeah, solo lanes as a support or whatever were miserable. But removing the 4th lane because you have no control over team composition is like axing an entire arm to stop a hangnail. 4th lane or no you are still totally at the mercy of whichever random hero it assigns you and bans.
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Is there a hero that would benefit from Kinetic Dash and Arcane Surge at the same time?
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>>568245059
Those are literally nothing but upsides though?
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>>568246339
Also, randos are surprisingly receptive to "birding don't kill yet please".
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>>568246735
the celeste classic is buying all the horse items and a weird thing is she might have been designed with that in mind
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>>568246457
my man, graves exists
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>>568246740
the only thing worse than latina women are black women, at least in a day-to-day context
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>>568247036
It's actually not even close; Graves has a distinct area of threat which - while larger now because of her skull jars getting fixed - is still a maximum thing. Gay Talon's threat range is the entire map
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I think I just came up with the only thing that could be worse than current urn. Picture this: instead of one urn, there's two, one on each side lane.

The two urns have a much lower spawn time (2 to 3 minutes) but are worth 35-40% what a regular urn is. In the event that a new urn spawns while one already exists, the existing one has its soul count increased by the new urn's value.

You can drop them at mid for 60% of the soul value or run the full way for 100%. Both drop off points have a short drop off timer to let the other side steal.
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>>568247596
Yeah, this sucks real bad.
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We need Fu Manchu in game
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>yoshi implemented forced losses for those who got rank-boosted
>game is now extremely aoe-sided
ok, time to stop playing deadlock for a bit until yoshi the "hitler" dinosaur stops tyrannically ruining my fun once again
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>get silver on team
>she does nothing
huh I thought this hero was S tier?
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>>568245926
>deadcock metaslave goycattle hate it when heroes are balanced
usually because there is always some faggot ass op hero that is much more powerful in comparison
metaslaves will always exist in this game because some heroes will always be busted because of icefaggots retarded "everything must be op" design philosophy; you can't ignore this
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>>568246735
the man whos eded tu bloo benefits from both greatly
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>>568246734
>They bitched out because the playercount was bottoming when it wasn't supposed to be as high as it was to begin with
because deadlock having a low player count before it's arrival would unironically PR-disaster it into oblivion
imagine the amount of jewtubers making videos on deadlock like "is DEADLOCK FINALLY DEAD??!?!?!?" when you're valve, you don't want the general public assuming the game is dead before it's even released, otherwise people will just accept that the game is dead and move on, which is the worst case profit scenario for valve.
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>>568246734
i agree but sadly the real reason for the 4 lane removal is that too many people complained about solo lanes. now i think they should've just fucked off and swapped lanes (i never minded playing them even if it was a losing matchup, at the very fucking least i was allowed to leave it without being screamed at by a teammate), but valve in their infinite wisdom realized they could simply save themselves the trouble by standarizing every lane, much the same like how they're doing with unique hero kits
worst part is we still live in a pauselock world so it's not like keeping them would've been that bad
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>>568248654
one would imagine that would have more to do with the game looking like complete dogshit and the new heroes being released looking EVEN WORSE, no? 4 lanes would've unironically done fine player numberwise if they had reworked the visuals and started pumping the new hero batches unto it.

also let's not pretend like the game still isn't bleeding players and not really doing that good. shit has as many players as fucking shartifact did on release there's no fucking way it's gonna do the numbers valve is expecting out of it on launch
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>>568245059
uhm she's latinx
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>>568249049
>the new heroes being released looking EVEN WORSE, no?
I think the new heroes look fine, but they are apart of the powercreep problem where some character kits in this game are overtuned
current biggest issue is that SO MANY. And I mean. SO MANY ABILITIES, INCLUDING AOE ONES, just effortlessly gives you value without you having to risk much at all
there is no risk or reward in jungle unless you're in the enemy team's jungle, no risk to using kelvin's spam grenades, no risk for using shiv's dash, or shiv's ult, or mina's ult, etc.
it just makes the game feel like a slog until you encounter the enemy team, and at that point you are either raping them or they are raping you, there is little inbetween-play experience anymore.
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>>568249458
I think he's referring to the hero labs bunch who were for some reason being released literally lacking textures as if people were going to be jumping at the chance to play content that might as well be proof of concept(note: the concept will not resemble anything in its finished form)
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so it looks like some part of the deadlock competitive scene is heavily rigged atm
there are actual comp players out there that have access to some experimental discord cabal server where the deadlock devs hang out in
I think "actively help shape patches" is somewhat of a stretch, but it's hard to deny the advantage one would get from asking the developers directly what certain values mean in-game, or "hey, what's some of the strongest items in the game right now? strongest heroes?" stuff like that.
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>>568249849
i was yes. also the first batch that had calico, holiday, vyper and fucking sinclair on them
like nigga did you really think people would stay or worse, come back to try that shit?
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Do hero shooter fags really??????
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Should I imbue this on Grapple for more air time?
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>>568249049
I think scope creep is unironically ruining the game
too many debuffs, too many bullshit items, too many intricate mechanics in only one kit out of roughly 50 other hero kits
the patches reworking the game makes the game feel unplayable, because you never truly get used to how the game is at that point
so you're forced to metaslave, or read patch notes thoroughly over and over, or do lab experiments with the changes in order to gauge just how awful or good some of the new changes are
it's pretty obnoxious
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>last patch drifter
>struggle to kill people, but still manage to control the map and win the game
>this patch drifter
>slaughtering people left and right, finally feel like a ganker and constantly get killstreaks but cant close out a game for shit, feel like I have 0 agency over the game, just get raped to death in all these sloppa teamfights
Im not sure what to do, no items feel like this fix this issue. Ive lost so much MMR since the the new patch dropped.
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>>568250245
yeah no shit
deadlock's comp scene it's more manufactured than fucking overwatch's. they have aislop sponsors modded into the fucking crates in game for the tune of 10k bucks. there's no esport scene on earth that forms as quickly and as squeaky pr clean as this game did without there being people just doing it for financial gain behind it.
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>>568248840
Minasisters...
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>>568250245
It's not Valve's problem that people have set up a separate environment for "pro" games. If Valve had organized the system then granted some separate access then we could talk about how the professional scene is rigged, but the "pro" scene as it exists is just a community tourney. Complaining that some are granted access to development builds as if just being invited to the community events is indicative of importance to development is dumb as shit. There is no "pro" scene. There's a community tourney parasitically attached to development insisting Valve isn't listening to them on matters regarding their unfinished game
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>>568250635
valve keeps buffing heroes but because they arent nerfing anything now there are hero kits that just do fucking everything, your hero is complete with maxed out boons and the items are essentially window dressing for your OP abilities.
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So rescue beam negates Hollidays lasso? When did this become a thing?
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>>568250763
frontliners are getting raped while hypercarries with aoeslop built in to their kit are flourishing
aoe support characters are even more irritating than they were before
Just remove the fucking urn at this point, and put signs up everywhere that say "HEY RETARD, DON'T FORGET TO PUSH YOUR LANE" when you people walk around jungle so the redditroons know when they're throwing
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guten taag
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>>568250635
always was gonna be this way due to the fact that it's a moba/hero shooter at the end of the day. just look at the heroes dota or overwatch released with and compare it to the shit they pull out now. the only difference is that valve has zero fucking restraint so they do whatever and add it in with no foresight.
expect the same thing to happen to literally every single other aspect of the game btw
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>>568250534
Aiming in deadlock isn't hard at all in the first place... I guess in laning phase before everyone gets their slows and their stuns, it's challenging. But it becomes trivial soon after.
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>all the women in DL are necrophiliacs
what do we do with this info?
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>>568251384
the foid yearns for the frankenstein. this has been known lil bro
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Unfriendly reminder that all mods are cheats.
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>>568251384
They should add more dead girls to balance it out
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>>568251384
i want to lick victor's rotten arm so bad
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kinda weird that none of the women want to fuck the lash (except vyper) he's buff he's handsome surely one of them would just hold her hand in front of his mouth while she rides his dick off at least
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>>568251042
All of this would have been avoided if they followed the new Valve game community formula of just doing PUGS 6v6 pick ems with team captains and shit like they did in cs, like they did in dota... then when the game is more developed, and the scene is more mature you start doing more tournaments and actually start teams and shit. They jumped the gun on all of it by immediately playing for huge sums. I will admit that actually thinking about this has me remembering that they tried to do pugs like month 1 or 2 and people hated each other so badly that it stopped (also updates were bi-weekly instead of every 5 months)
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yoshi could make every bullet one shot people are redditors would still defend him because "we're in an alpha he can test anything bro"
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>>568251829
lash is attractive for gay men
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i love being a paige otp in low elo <3
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>back to autistic dooming again

/dlg/ is healing.....
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YOU FUCKING FAGGOTS
EVERY GAME A VENATOR MUST HIT DOUBLE DIGIT DEATHS BEFORE THE 10 MINUTE MARK
EVERY GAME SOME DOORMAN MISSES HIS CARTS AND RUNS UNDER ENEMY TOWER FOR NOTHING
EVERY GAME A WARDEN WANDERS AIMLESSLY AROUND JUNGLE UNTIL HE IS KILLED BY THEIR HAZE
EVERY GAME YOUR TROGLODYTE FREAK NIGGER TEAMMATES WILL AVOID ANY AND ALL HEALING ABILITIES YOU ACTIVATE AND INSTEAD ZIP LINE BACK TO FOUNTAIN
ADD A FUCKING FORFEIT THIS GAME IS AIDS 40 MINUTES OF MY LIFE WASTED EVERY TIME
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Seven be like
https://files.catbox.moe/tzho2n.mp4
https://files.catbox.moe/w0u06r.mp4
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>Floorman players are complaining that players in other pro teams are part of the secret playtest and thus knew of the urn change and were able to learn how to play around it earlier and thus are at a massive advantage in the tournaments (which are worth money btw)

Kinda messed up, somehow never crossed my mind but yeah, being in the secret playtest would give any teams who knew the changes in advance a pretty massive advantage
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>>568251829
>he's buff
He's at best cut. Buff is excess muscle like my bicep for example. I lift over 20kg(44lbs)
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>>568252490
>WILL AVOID ANY AND ALL HEALING ABILITIES YOU ACTIVATE AND INSTEAD ZIP LINE BACK TO FOUNTAIN
Su**ort detected. Get fucked parasite, buy knockdown.
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>>568252114
that's my girl
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>>568252748
either grow some hair or shave properly you sissy

i've been going to the gym for half a year now and i'm debating if i should start going to the free weight section yet or not. i like working with the machines but i feel like maybe i'm wasting my time a bit? i still got a bit to go before i hit weight limit on all of them though
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>>568251829
>he's buff he's handsome

80% of girls want a lanky 6'2 dude
the other 20% want a pretty boi (timmy chalamet)

facial hair and big muscles is bait for fat hispanic chicks.
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>>568252748
this picture vexes me
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>>568251861
love to hate valve's incompetence but this one is all on the community's greed. everyone just wants to be on the ground floor of THE EPIC NEW VALVE TITLE because they see the csgo tourneys and TI and think deadlock will inevitably have the same like it was promised for shartifact
in short, it's a job opportunity for them, not a passion project. the difference between old FGC and the new corporate one.
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McGinnis is literally Hitler btw
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>>568253024
>tfw bald wide manlet that can grow muscles easy but is still noticeably fat
>can't even go full dwarf mode cause i don't drink and i have bottle glasses
>can still attract chicks from time to time but can never keep their interest
>too bummed out to even like them back properly most of the time
>never had sex with any of them
genuinely hate my life.
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>>568253271
how so?
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>>568253241
you hit the nail on the head, the funniest part is people dont realize their skill right now is being the best in a very shallow puddle pool of players, once that flood gate opens you're forgotten like so many other names.. out of that old na FPL scene in dota the only big names still known are like.. aui2000, rtz, fear, sumail, hundreds of others all lost to time
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hi guys i main victor also im trans :3
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>>568252561
kek
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>>568253321
fatter.
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Just realized they've change the urn. I'm not gonna bother learning how it works now, I'll keep avoiding that thing as I've been doing since I got access to the game.
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>>568253583

sorry Castanza, that load out gets you some grim results in todays market. Hope you're under 25 at least, you have time to fix the hair. Long hair (or just good) is genuinely a cheat code.
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>mossad haze on my team spent 35 minutes farming
>jungle during every urn fight
>popped out at 65k souls and tried to solo midboss with zero green items
>we lose
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>>568253321
>cheating
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>>568253321
They could at least try to make it look like Lopunny instead of a bad porn suit.
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>>568254003
i started to go bald at 17 bro
it was over before it even began.
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>>568245580
I'm a career apollo hater but yes the nerfs are that severe. The change to his 2 is like if they changed Lash to only be able to grapple onto enemies. It fundamentally changed the primary use case of the ability (to be an escape tool) so now the squishy spirit nuker who relies on high mobility to weave in and out of fights has basically no escape tool. There's no reason to play him over Yam or Celeste now.
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>>568254396

go on balding tiktok and grab some meme solutions. ffs anon, this is your life, balding is a death sentence if you're not a default 7 face or over 6'.
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>>568253583
>weigh 150lbs 6ft tall
>cant grow a beard, basically grow highschooler stubble even though i'm 32
>full head of hair not balding whatsoever despite above
>pale and skinny with piano hands
we are basically opposites
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>>568254138
hehe mossad jokes are so funny xDDDD
make sure to call him a pedophile and netanyahu next for comedic effect xDD
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>>568253024
>facial hair and big muscles is bait for fat hispanic chicks.
Wait really? I need to hit the fuckin gym lads
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>>568254975
bro this guy has deadass been to the island
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>>568254776
>bro just be a clown and actively use social media that you hate and WILL make you miserable just to attract someone you won't even like

come on son you know better than this. you don't recommend an almost 30 year old guy to go on fucking tiktok for advice on dating. that shit either happens or doesn't at this point i'm not about to force it no more

>>568254776
chicks dig that look though, i wish i had your hair genes, beard looks nice but having to shave both my bald ass head and my cheeks because it grows so much gets annoying real fast
in my experience they also really like the pale skin and piano hands too.
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You'd think people would be interested in a jar of souls...
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I'M JUST A SPIRIT JAR PATIENTLY WAITING
SITTING HERE WITH NO CARES IN THE WORLD, JUST.... WAITING
PERFECTLY CONTENT
HAPPY WITH MY LOT IN LIFE COMFORTABLY KNOWING I HAVENT BEEN FORGOTTEN
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>>568252114
same except high elo because I'm not functionally disabled <3
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magic carpet isn't funny or cool, remove it from the game yoshi you fat fucking nigger
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>>568252114
post build
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>just doscovered another bug on Billy
>it also makes him worse
Why does he have like 5 different bugs that nerf him?
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>>568255870
Melee is the most oppressed playstyle
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>>568255870
my favorite one is his horns making it so there's a chance that your dash won't actually move you forward cause it clashes with the floor or some shit like that
took them what, half a fucking year to fix it?
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>>568251829
Lash practically came out of a Tom of Finland drawing, he's too homosexual looking for women to be into him. All the chicks want Apollo and Victor because they're prettyboys
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>>568251106
It's always been a thing. Same with hooks.
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>>568242612
Celeste is now addicted to jerking off shotas!
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>>568253656
M for MG42, C for C96, G for Germany, I for Infanterie, N for Nebelwerfer, N for Night and Fog decree, I as the second I in World War II, S as in Schutzstaffel. She builds walls with guns(Atlantic Wall, Siegfried Line) and releases captured souls (concentration camps) whilst also healing her defenses (slave labor).
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>>568256381
>Apollo
>not homosexual looking
bro... i.....
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>>568255482
PICK ME UP THIS INSTANT
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>>568242006
ooouuUgghHgGhh paige boobies!~
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>>568256562
Yeah but he's a twink so they don't care. How else do you explain the sheer amount of ApolloxGraves ship art?
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>victor is still in the game, unchanged
Jesus
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>>568256968
he got nerfed....
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I dont really vibe with silver.
Her poke is ok but not my cup of tea, especially against graves.
Ult is amazing but Im never the one actually initiating it and it seems to come out when im running away.
3 seperate times I almost got merc'd only for the ult to pop and end up wiping the gank.
kinda nutty.
overall 6/10 hero.
maybe 7/10
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>>568256873
i assumed those were made by males
the ones i know for a fact are made by females are the victor ones
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>>568256968
Victor has the most loyal fanbase
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>>568255809
had to play against a magic carpet stamina mastery lash. not kidding when I say it was impossible to catch him.
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>>568257059
Nerfed? I'm 25 minutes in a game and we haven't won. We all know the game is over since Victor is on the enemy team but we have to play for another 10 minutes of that guy pressing w and killing us all. I don't want him nerfed, I want him out of the game.
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I wish death timers got longer faster but were capped at 1 minute
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>>568255482
Urn should've been a girl. A bratty one specifically.
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>shipping
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If Ivy sat on you she'd break your nose.
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>Be me, Archon 2
>Get put in an Arcanist team
>Enemy team is Ritualist
Can someone explain this matchmaking
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>>568257489
Why arent you pivoting and putting on spirit resist?
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>>568257673
you should be a girl
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Apollo would drink an entire urn of cum if it meant being first
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>>568257718
It really shouldn't be Paige since she at least has players, during the last hero vote Silver got like 90% of the fanart, social media attention, Discord trannies obsessing over her, etc but ended up being the third to be voted in
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>>568257823
You are in one of the "spamming graves ult in sidelane will get 2/3 walkers" ranks
Lower your tone
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>>568257795
What if she pissed on my face? Would she still pass kidney stones or would it be something else entirely because she is already made of stone?
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nah babe
i'm laaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaash
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>>568258094
That doesn't explain the matchmaking
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>Victor: high prio'd
>W key: held
It's Deadlockin time
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>>568257980
>xX_IxianPatriotGigachad_Xx: I would absolutely kill every single human if it meant securing the existence of my people and a future for Ixian children
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>>568257718
This doesn't make much sense because for someone to start shipping intensely they need to play the game a lot to have an emotional connection towards the characters
The yurifaggots are the tourists
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>>568258109
I dont like playing him because early and even mid game I feel useless and by the time im useful, the game is over
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>>568257827
I am, but turns out he has 5 friends and after my entire team wastes all of our resources on triggering Victor's ult they just walk in and clean the lobby
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>>568256553
>MG42
Clearly, it's meant to represent an M134
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>>568258287
damn, only thing I can think of is guerrila tactics and split pushing to draw their attention away, but if its late enough they'll just ignore it
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>losing a game
>recoverable though
>server crashes
I don't want to play with russians
блять
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>mfw have been ascendant for over a year
every time i get close to entering eternus i get raped by a losestreak, should i just blow my brains out
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>>568258283
>I feel useless
Bro just ult every urn fight??
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>>568258381
wtf I thought fireing these handheld was just a hollywood trope.
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>>568258449
Take the alchemist pill.
its way more fun down here playing casually and fucking with smurfs.
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>>568258101
Ivy is only stone when in stone form though
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>>568258736
if only you knew how many times I fat fingered it or used it way out of range.
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>>568258796
What happens if she goes into stone form when pregnant with my rape baby?
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>>568258764
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Silver is my wife.
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>>568258764
Pretty sure it is, not just the weight + a battery required to operate it, but you'd never be able to control the recoil. Though, we're also working with spirit power here as well.
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>no urn revert
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>Rem with magic carpet and rescue beam just flying around untouchable saving people
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>>568253024
>>568256381
This is extreme cope. Every women I've interacted with that claims to like pretty boys ends up dating muscular dudes. It's female larp to like a weak, pretty man.
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why the fuck does affliction go through walls now
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>>568252561
Seizure man
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>>568252490
I'm a m1gger at heart but what perplexes me is my teammates abilities to dodge my healing nades as Kelvin yet I never miss our enemies.
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>>568261062
Your mum doesn't count anon.
You've either met an extremely odd sample, or you're high on incel/brownoid cope and propaganda.

Big muscle dudes only appeal to gaymen. Women like 'pretty' boys and dadbods depending on chance/age/whether daddy didn't love them enough.
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>>568258764
>>568259538
mcginnis straight up comments that it looks way heavier than it actually is. Spirits are quite light, it's probably still somewhat hefty but it's probably not like 100 pounds of pure gun, probably something a bit closer to <30-40
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>>568259313
Based thunderbolt fantasy enjoyer.
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>>568259538
For the real one yeah. maybe with an exoframe of some kind specially designed for it but then what's the point if it makes you immobile? Might as well just have the mount on a tripod or something.
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>>568261062
>claims to like pretty boys

well yea, pretty bois are about as rare as a girl with a sub 5 body count. My sister graduated from Uni and there were MAYBE 1/30 dudes that manged to pull the look off, and this is a massive crowd of 22-25 year olds.
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>>568260098
>happily accepts AI slop from someone living in a mud hut
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>make Graves 500% more braindead to play
>her winrate shoots up to 60%
Wowzers, who could've predicted this?
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why is graves op?
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>>568263006
shes one dimensional so she's either useless or get's absurd value.
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>>568263006
stupid urn change
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>>568259194
still born...
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>>568263006
>shits out high damaging autoaim npcs with high mobility, tiny hitboxes and thr ability to chase people across the map
No idea
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Slava URNkraini
Midboss slava
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>>568260329
magic carpet cancels with rescue beam no?
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>>568263086
i have seen this happen in my games does her ult block the urn or what?
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>>568263191
ДABAЙ ДABAЙ
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>>568263249
she's very good at locking down the urn spot
anyone complaining about the 1 buff is dogshit at the game, it's all in her urn fight
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>>568263249
no heavy melees pierce it'll hit anything. the actual trouble is her building refresher echo and dumping 3 roots and two tombs on urn deposit and it being impossible to contest without eating 3000 damage in an aoe
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it's quite literally impossible to attack mid urn while behind in soloQ
even if the urn is favoured and our team has 6 heroes that are good at contesting urn my team is just too slow to do shit because it's too risky to engage mid without getting picked off
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>>568263006
Ignore people complaining about the skulls, it's he ghouls.
Her ability to spam 100 ghouls that roam around chasing people and doing 600 damage if they catch you makes her OP in teamfights and dangerous to chase giving her all the control.
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>>568263242
Think so, he was using it to get high and far then canceling it and pulling people far out of danger.
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seriously why did they buff yamato and venator? they completely dominate the games now.
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>>568263191
>>568263316
RUSH B SUKA RUSH B SUKA
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I don't understand why she's allowed to get away with raping shotas just because she's wealthy
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>>568264261
venator needed it, though
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>>568255482
I'M FULL OF SOULS HERE PEOPLE!!!
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>>568262151
Was thinking about that line exactly. Spectral rockets, Medicinal Specter, Turrets powered by spirits. Her gun is the only thing that even looks fully mechanical, yet it too, probably has some spectral inner workings.
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>I start taking the urn to the point
>Enemy team immediately reacts and starts pivoting to the point
>My team does nothing I drop the urn and go farm
>This is a constant in my games.
Yeh im not running urns ever again.
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>>568264435
eminent domain
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Bullet resist is underrated
After people blow all their abilities and you're still alive they try to shoot you only to be dealing negative damage because bullet resist is actually hard to itemize a lot of if you aren't building APR (only works half the time and give virtually 0% gun damage otherwise)
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>>568264637
What rank? We pooplows are BROOLING nonstop
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>>568264708
yeah but most of the spirit nukers have really good m1s (with some exceptions) And after 20+ minutes most everyones gun does decent damage to bring you down at 10% hp
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Hi, I'll be your Wraith tonight. Don't worry that I bought egg, TC, and cultist sacrifice as my first three items, that's perfectly normal. Gotta take a few deaths.
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I have been not playing yesterday and maybe try out some dota today so im chilling this current patch a little bit on my time till all the drama blows over. Im interested how long they will keep experimenting with the urn. Its not that bad but i think soon theyll do something
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>>568264237
honestly a complete and utter meme. might as well just go majestic leap for this.
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>>568265218
>Maxed out 3 first because infinite bullets lmao what is sliding
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I am maining Yamato (I was maining her before the patch too). What builds can you recommend me and what should I stress my attention on in general?
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>>568264637
same
i've always one-tricked ivy and i thought this would be THE PATCH for me to do well because i can always be in the urn fight with ult, and vines deal a ton of damage and stone form lets you hmelee for free when maxed but my team is so fucking worthless and stupid it's actually unreal it's literally IMPOSSIBLE to ever contest urn
it's impossible to attack mid urn because of the way the terrain is in mid and defending it is trivially easy when you're ahead, matches have never been as shitstomp-ey as they are now, basically the first team to get urn always wins the game now
i know it's probably fixed with some communication but i don't have a mic and i'm not planning on getting one for this retarded nigger faggot yoshit game
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>>568265218
Okay guys, don't worry. I've totally got this, I am going to carry this team. All the pros buy Ricochet and Echo Shard, haven't you ever seen Nightshift?
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when the FUARK is /our/ girl dropping it??
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>>568263006
Ridiculous spirit damage even when you dont build spirit. Infact you can just skip it go heroic aura / echo shard and nuke people.
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>>568265754
That's /our/ boy though
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why are deadlock players so zesty
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>>568264261
>venator dominating games
what the actual fuck are you talking about he's even worse than last patch
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>>568265754
i hate the onions eskay redditor commuinity crowd in deadlock
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>>568265754
POST IT NOW
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Just woke up
Did they revert the urn yet?
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patch so ass I'm just going to play haze and kd farm cause nothing fucking matters
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EVERY FUCKING TIME I HIT ARCHON 4 I'M GETTING SENT ON A MOST UNWINNABLE LOSING STREAK FUCKING POSSIBLE WHICH SENDS ME BACK TO EMISSARY 6 OR ARCHON 1

4-5 TIMES IT FUCKING HAPPENED ALREADY, I'M PUT WITH BOTTOM OF THE BARREL TEAMS

THEN I GET ON A WINNING STREAK AND REACH A4 AGAIN

RINSE FUCKING REPEAT

NO WIN LOSE WIN LOSE SITUATION, JUST LOSE LOSE LOSE LOSE LOSE WIN LOSE LOSE AND THEN VICE VERSA

JUST NOW I WAS PUT WITH RETARDS WHO FARM ON THE SIDELANES INSTEAD OF CONTESTING URNS OR THEY FUCKING WALK AROUND THE JUNGLE FOR THE ENTIRE GAME SEARCHING FOR FIGHTS, BIATING EVERYONE INTO THIS MESS LIKE WHAT THE FUCK AM I SUPPOSD TO DO? HOW THE FUCK DO I CARRY MY FUCKING ASS OUT OF THIS ELO HELL

WHY DO I SUBMIT MYSELF TO THIS FUCKING DOGSHIT OF A GAME, INSTEAD OF PLAYING SOMETHING CHILL, ANYTHING THAT IS NOT THAT BULLSHIT
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>>568258449
>ascendant even with the rank inflation
JUST
literal phantom 6 players got inflated to eternus 1 without playing a single match btw
don't kys pls
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I understand that sometimes you want to tinker with things and try new angles to break blocks in design and thought but I cannot even playing devil's advocate in my head imagine a scenario where anything can be gleaned from this urn mechanic. It's worded to make that it is obviously not final even clearer but what can be learned from the way it is now that wasn't immediately obvious? What lessons are they hoping to apply to other concepts or new insights can be obtained by doing this? The only scenario I can imagine is they have hit such a brick wall in urn ideas they pushed an obviously terrible idea just so people would en-masse propose alternatives with a newfound urgency
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>>568266246
deadlock is a transcoded puppygirl game
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>>568266790
they put it on the experimental server and eido told them it was great so now we have to deal with it
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>>568265652
The moron added me after the game and HOW DO YOU HAVE 554 HOURS AND NOT KNOW HOW TO BUILD WRAITH?
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>>568266654
thats just in the nature of competitive games.
Ive noticed a pattern of reaching my peak, then getting on loss streaks before going on another streak that puts me on a newest peak elo before setting down somewhere higher in the middle.

Skill variates so you should rather see your "true" elo as the average of your games and not peaks or lows. Real improvements you see when your average elo goes up.
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>>568266103
eskay have pp?
can you prove it
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NOOO STOP THROWING MY RITUALIST GAME WITH YOUR DOGSHIT MEME BUILDS AIEEE WHY WHY WHYYY AREN'T YOU RUNNING METASLAVE BUILD WHYYYY RETARD RETARD FUCKING SUBHUMAN TROGLODYTE WHY DID YOU PIECE OF SHIT BUY
>THAT
>ITEM
RETARD FUCK!!!!!!!!!!! REPORTED NIGGGERRRRRRRR LITERALLY IM NOT EVEN JOKING LOOK THIS BRAINDEAD FUCK BOUGHT
>THAT
>ITEM
AHAHAHAHAHAAHHAHHAHA IM NOT UNINSTALLING AHAHAAAHAAHAAHAH FAGGOT
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>geist is so weak, f tier
how
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I'm stuck in Seeker hell, but I guess it's not so bad
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suck geist is so fun and dishonest
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>play against fed cloak wraith
>LIFTING!!!!
>ok i guess i will buy unstoppable
>buys unstoppable
>she buys curse
>LIFTING!!!!!
i fucking hate this dumb bitch so much
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make pocket -30% spirit res at the start of the game
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>haven't played in a few days
>first games on new patch
>play two games
>lose two games
well maybe waking up today was a bad idea
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>>568268349
same, I went from arcanist 4 to arcanist 1 in a back-to-back losing streak
there is some absolute jewish trickery going on here for sure, because right around the update came out even my alchemist buddies knew to contest urn
but now it's like I'm intentionally getting paired with brainlets that act like "urggghr whut's an urrnn??!?!?! ruugghhrr"
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>kelvin dome does not freeze urn
>magician can tp with urn directly to drop off
>UM BUT YOU CANT SAY ANYTHING NEGATIVE ABOUT THIS URN MECHANIC BECAUSE ITS A PLAYTEST AND WE ARE THE PLAYTESTERS SO THERE WAS NO WAY TO KNOW UNTIL WE GIVE FEEDBACK
its too much to expect devs to think 10 seconds into the future I suppose. the old urn got frozen why doesnt this one?
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>>568252993
Free weights are better. You work out a lot more muscles with free weights as you need various muscles to stabilize things and whatnot. Absolutely start doing the free weights.
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i wanna play mina because she's ridicioulsy sexy but i can't aim any builds for retards like me or am i cursed to be a mo and krill main forever?
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>>568266754
I went from oracle, got shot up to phantom before the six gods update and then slowly but surely I feel like I've been fraud maxxxing and now I'm E5.
I still feel like an oracle level player but everyone around is just as retarded so maybe there's something to it.
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>>568268772
>/fit/ 2016 trash powershitter propaganda in the big 2026
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>>568264880
Emissary 6
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>>568268842
>I feel like I've been fraud maxxxing
nta same here
i am hovering around phantom 1-3 and i feel like i do not deserve this bullshit at all i fucking suck ass at this game
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>>568268883
Is this not true? I had a buddy back in 2011 big into fitness and he told me this when I first started working out. Never looked up anything otherwise.
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>>568255482
Kino. Just pure undistilled kino.
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>>568268617
>repeatedly tell mates to help me deliver urn
>nobody moves at all from their lanes to help me deliver urn
>"uhmmmm that was a bad move pocket..."
>team doesn't do shit for the next 3 minutes so I eventually drop urn
>enemy team instantaneously six-man delivers it instead
MM is fair, balanced and definitely not broken in one of worst patches I've played in recent memory, no siree nothing broken here
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>win 3 games in a row
>enemy team has 22/0 aimhacking troodicta
nice forced 50
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>>568268671
>UM BUT YOU CANT SAY ANYTHING NEGATIVE ABOUT THIS URN MECHANIC BECAUSE ITS A PLAYTEST
hate shit like this because it's always performative reddit propaganda
yeah it's a playtest dipshit, but just because it's a playtest doesn't mean it's automatically immune from all criticis; this isn't a sweet little child's drawing you're "protecting" from criticism here, this is fucking multi-billion dollar, world-renowned game company VALVE
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>>568269106
its very reminiscent of the time. I definitely know its was big on fit during the 2010s the 5x5 split where you just did squats, deadlifts, bench, OHP 5reps 5sets and thats all.
It was propagated for beginners just like you said to build stabilizing muscles and a 'base' strength to build muscles.
Thats not true you bild muscles best by training your specific muscle so isolation chest work is better than compund lifts for basically every muscle and its also less fatigueing and generally more effective.
At least thats my knowledge as of the current discourse.

In my personal experience compound lifts can be generally very fun. Its fatigueing so personally i only use those that are 'fun' to me but its absolutely not optimal for muscle building if thats what OP is after.
But they are fun I gotta admit. Also you can get easily hurt as a beginner and learning the execution right is important when going heavy on compound.
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>>568263618
It's not. In fact, that is the most favored teamfight you're going to get.
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Can't wait for mod fags to get banned, so sick of clicking on a video to see shit like velma, the skeleton from minecraft and all sorts of other bullshit.
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might as well just afk in the lobby when you see these two
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>>568269825
only allow the bbw mods something that has effort
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>>568269825
forgot to say schoolgirl mina can stay though
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Wanting eternus is like asking for only low priority games
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>>568221550
TRVKE
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>>568270105
what's wrong with eternus
isn't it supposed to be "no low elo" heaven?
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>>568270263
it doesn't get better
the egos only get bigger
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>>568270554
what is the point in ranking up then if it doesn't get better from low elo...
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The doorman changes are fucking awful, it's painful to play him now. I see the vision Yoshi is trying to force
>"Ok guys, wait around that door and I'll run forward and open another door we can ambush them!"
>"Whoa, where'd all these people come from?! Doorman tricked us with his door! Oh man classic Doorman xD"
It just doesn't work, I'd have an easier time teaching cats to tapdance than get pubbies to play around my doors.
Also I resent how the enemy can use my own doors against me when I'm not allowed to close them. Drifter's ult doesn't blind his own team, Viscious's goo doesn't slow his own team.
Finally, I resent how it basically kills improvisation on him. The only useful doors are the prepared ones that lead to locations they wont want to follow you. Just Connecting two point quickly in a chase does nothing anymore. Along with the constant damage nerfs, you have to play him so slow and brainless now.
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>>568270659
Blame ecelebs and shitters, neither of them can mentally handle doorman's kit, so now he's just a worse Dr Strange
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>>568270554
going down in rankmakes it even worse when you have played higher mmr lobbies
the only solution is to stay low mmr
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>>568270874
>"BRO HE'S LITERALLY EPSTEIN"
>"BRO HE'S LITERALLY EPSTEIN"
>"BRO HE'S LITERALLY EPSTEIN"
streamers are a cancer onto this game when they affect the balancing by this much
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my feedback: this game is shit and marvel rivals is better at this point
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>>568270991
>this game is shit
mhm
>but marvel rivals is better
let's not get crazy now...
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>>568270991
brown hands typed this post
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>>568271107
And what if it did?
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>>568271352
you need to wash your hands after wiping
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>>568270659
I have hope the door changes will be reverted. I strongly suggest you post your dislike of it in the official forums. Its a change that makes the character less fun and kind of kills his whole identity. They really should nerf everything else about him rather than just gutting the doors like this.
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>Scrolling through instagram reels
>The few times that deadlock shows up it's always some african american negro with retarded basketball and capeshit themed mods
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>>568271460
the devs dont even read your posts
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>>568271107
you mean chinese bot coding printed this post
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i need a melee paige sissy to peg me...
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>>568271550
Been seeing a lot of normalfags playing Deadlock recently. The valorant/ow/rivals crowd. Its good for the game i guess but i'm so used to playing with Dota/CS weirdoes, feels strange to have normals in the game
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>geist needs buffs!!!!
yeah sure man whatever. buff abrams and seven too while we're at it fuck it why not
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>>568271878
at least theres a dota/cs weirdo crowd. I dont mind the normies and valo redditors if there are also people i jell with and who are cool.
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Current doors would be fine if they were actually stealthy.
You can't have ambush door strats when everyone can see the gigantic circle of imminent rape.
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>Win every urn fight
>Kill all 3 of their walkers in 20 minutes, lose none of ours
>Team somehow, SOMEHOW manages to fumble this lead
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>Coaching two different friends that are new to the game
>One of them easily picks the game up, consistently gets MVPs after 30 games
>The other one forgets that abilities are even a thing, builds orange items only no matter the character, and dies 20+ times every game
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mhmm another night of playing rem buying egg and rushing curse
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>>568271550
>>568271878
>>568271987
I would heavily prefer having dudebro normies playing the game over porn addict trannies
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>Get MVP
>Next game is 5 troglodytes running it down being put on my team
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exploring every fold, nook and cranny of silver's juicy, warm cookie with my tongue before sticking it in her clitoral fossa and giving her the best orgasm of her life
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>>568272514
then maybe move over to tiktoks deadlock community anon
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>>568267992
just eshift after she lifts you and just run away after dumb nigger
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>>568267992
You can counterspell when you hear "LIFTING" stop her for 3200 easy.
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Lets just put heroes that counter other heroes in the game and add a ban system that might as well be rng. but NO draft absolutely not. No, that would hurt the game!
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>>568251148
Having WW2 era propaganda posters that are actual useful tips for people wandering the jungle would go crazy hard desu
>When you push alone, you push with Hitler
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It's funny that the black women of valve unoriginality are allowed to Kill you with no counter play by simply clicking their ults on you and requiring you to buy t4 items to not get instagibbed but other cheesy methods like doorman kidnapping where he has to allign the door and hit you with the cart which is also now dispellable and counter spellable is too much.
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>>568273459
calico isnt even good dude save your energy for wraith whining
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>>568273627
i think he's talking about wraith and haze not calico
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>>568273732
haze isnt african american
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Can't wait til that avatar fighting game comes out so I can stop playing this game.
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>>568273986
ok
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Worst patch in Deadlock history?
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Do the marvel rival and overwatch general have deadlockschizos in them or is this a onesided grudge?
Like that one avatarfag that keeps posting the girl with bubblegum is there some nigger posting mina over there?
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>>568274365
still is the patch that nerfed ivy's melee damage
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>>568274365
every patch has been worse than the last. the old gods update was bad and everything after has somehow been worse. been going downhill for a while now
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>>568274431
There's a rivalsfag that likes to go around the shooter game generals and shill for netease
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>>568274365
Game has been going down hill since neon prime.
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>movement nerf and forcing main game to be ARAM in the same patch
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If you don't have atleast 350 hours in game your opinion doesn't matter.
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>>568274573
Amazing.
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HEYAHEYAHEYA *nukes 3/4s of your hp with one ability* HEYAHEYAHEYAHEYA *flies up 50 km into the air to make trading damage impossible* HEYAHEYAHEYAHEYA *disarms silences curses everything in a 100m radius* HEYAHEYAHEYAHEYAHEYA *throws IED of peace*
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https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/05-22-2026-update.135477/post-259788
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IT'S OUT
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>>568242148
Calm down Mina!
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>>568274989
Site's not loading for me what's it say
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>>568275103
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>all urn changes
deadlock is saved
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>>568274431
When you realize there are infinitely more chinks than White people and they are incentivized by social credit to shill for chinese products it makes sense that it's a "onesided grudge."

>>568245012
Silver players are dogshit.
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>>568275162
calico bros we fucking won
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minas favourite passtime is giving out rimjobs to fat ugly bastards
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>>568275162
>urn moved under the bridge
>now it's burgerbox + wall rape + doornigger rape + gooball rape + celeste infinte mobility rape
THANK YOU YOSHISAMA
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>>568275162
>dropoff is next to a ton of walls
ABRAMS STOCKS UP
VENTATOR STOCKS UP
VISCUS STOCKS UP
DOORMAN STOCKS HAVE HIT THE MOON
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has anyone managed to get an extra invite to the discord after wasting the first? how did you do it?
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>>568274958
And despite all this he's still one of the most honest heroes in Deadlock.
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>>568275656
have someone dm yoshi in the cord
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>>568275742
i dont have any friends that play this
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>>568275162
>underneath side lane bridges
Interesting
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>>568275162
>it's real
>it's also somehow worse now
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WHY IS THE BULLDYKE S+ IN BOTH BROOL AND THE MOBA MODE NOW?!?!??!
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I finally understand the vyperchads
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How the fuck do people die in lane 10 times against Haze man
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>>568276063
nah no way, moving it away from mid so its not a guaranteed segway to the other objective is good at the very minimum
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>>568275162
sprint meta is back?
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>>568275162
I like the longer contest and extension times, felt way too short before. I'm really not sure about having the delivery point be under the bridge though, sounds clusterfucky
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so is victor still good
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I feel like the urn should just be a circle you have to stand in. Standing inside adds progress for your team, first team to finish their progress bar gets it.
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>>568276583
Any AOEslop is good for urn brools
Max out ult first
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>>568275162
Wow this fixes literally nothing AND Kelvin can still dome it
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> Urn runner no longer has sprint disabled
>- Urn runner now has max sprint acceleration
>- Urn runner now gains +2m Sprint, +1 Stamina, +10% Dash Distance and +15% Stamina Regen
>- Urn runner for the team that is behind now gains an extra +4m Sprint
Good changes actually. If they're moving it to the sidelanes, then at least make it accessible to majority of the players instead of the fucking 1% who can abuse movement bugs.
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whenever i play a 60 minute long game i feel dead inside at the end
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>winrates are being inflated solely over who rapes the hardest during the urn KotH
This is fucking awful
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>>568276224
Not him, but it's still a guarnteed segway no matter what, unless an entire team doesn't contest
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>>568275162
>makes it even worse
bravo yoshi
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>>568276063
Anyone have the pic of just this cat?
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new urn is good because it makes the game more like s4 league, dotacykas can rope all they like
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>>568277317
based elite ball knowledge
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I've thought before that a Deadlock KOTH/CTF mode would be fun, which it is, but also this does not fucking belong in the main mode
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>>568242006
Anal witch paige

Also is this patch anything?
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>>568276583
Yes but I'm finding out now that agile characters can kite him pretty efficiently and merc him.
still a menace in teamfights but so long as your team isnt lukewarm IQ, its no problem
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>>568276583
if your trans yeh
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>Urn drop off point is moved from the above bridge in the mid lane to under the bridge in the side lane
Lash found dead in Brooklyn
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>spirit bebop on my team who does 0 damage and dies 10 times
sometimes I want to shove my hand through the computer and just literally kill soemone
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93P7B
93P7B
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>>568277743
they made graves even more overpowered. that tight small hole is perfect for her
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>>568275162
so like.... you take it from one side lane to the other side lane?
that's better I guess?
I'd still like the whole party game aspect to go.
The whole risk of doing urn was the aspect of a potential teamfight that could fuck you over so uhhh,..... yeah.
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>>568278234
>echo shard graves puts a wall on each side of the underbridge
>literally can't get in without getting rooted
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>>568278234
Love her tight small hole
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>>568278332
there was no "risk". either you do it or you're self-sabotaging yourself and I don't think the latest patch has changed that
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>>568278113
need 2 more
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>>568278685
No?
before the big update, urn didn't spawn nearly as often and you only really did urn if you needed the comeback or if you were confident that your team could deny the comeback by grabbing it yourself and going into enemy territory.
quick making shit up.
urn is not a MUST DO, I've won plenty of games without prioritizing it
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Does anyone know what under the bridge means specifically?

Literally just under the middle section of the bridge?
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>>568279057
yes.
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>>568278685
pumping to this
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>>568278939
I'm not talking about how it worked before the 22th. that's irrelevant now.
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>>568279057
yea
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>>568278113
kicked saga that afk bum need 1 more
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>>568279138
The only strong part about her is ult and its inconsistent.
actual trash
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>>568279230
and your rank sir?
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Was anybody even complaining about movement? Actually I think the only complaints I’ve heard are about Celeste’s low grav bhop which just got added as an item in this same patch. I can understand limiting map rotations but the movement was great it felt finalized.
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>>568279301
nta but she's a throw pick even in eternus as proven by all the tourneys
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>>568279230
Her personality is also very strong
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I know this is all experimental.

But I REALLY hope they eventually make it so that the ship and park area of the sidelanes open up to become the urn dropoff points.
I feel like those would be fantastic setpieces for one of the two major objectives in the game.
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>>568279365
>even in eternus
what's her winrate in eternus?
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>>568278939
Urn has always spawned every 5 minutes post 10min what the fuck do you mean?
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>>568279392
does she inherit the litter gene haha?
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>>568279365
farts ruined it
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Street brawl has literal troglodytes playing the game
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So the new urn definetly is in a better place, but there's two things i immediately noticed: first, there's now a "safe lane" and a "hard lane", the hard one being Yellow. Hard as in by 10 minutes there's guaranteed going to be a clusterfuck teamfight in the middle of your lane. So your carry is better off being in green. Second, it kinda feels difficult for the losing team to deliver the urn now. Sure, you have some advantage in the fight due to the stats but it takes a while to carry the urn to the opposite side lane, and the enemy team will already have assembled there
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>>568279565
feels like it spawns sooner.
that or the respawn timer happens immediately after urn spawns.
Urn will cap, I'll clear a lane and camp, then another urn will spawn.
thats why Im tired of these retards acting like your throwing if you dont do urn.
it's horseshit and they know it.
it's not a requirement to do especially if your ahead.
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>>568279712

DESU I think the losing team should have their urn pickup point spawn closer to them
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>>568278939
>urn is not a MUST DO, I've won plenty of games without prioritizing it
But it is. See, this is the problem with urn being in the sidelanes. Shitlow players like you aren't willing to run it or simply can't because you lose so much tempo just from running around without schoovement, but if you put it closer to mid shitlow players can actually run it now with ease.
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>>568278939
Holy emissary post
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>>568279836
explain how its a must do.
I know for a fucking fact its not
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>drops a big fat tombstone shit
clean it up lanejanny
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>>568279712
also I don't know if it's like that in real matches but during testing the comeback urn is giving the stamina and speed stats to the other team too
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thoughts on Sinclair? the current urn clusterfuck probably makes focusing on rabbits and utility much stronger than trying to hit bolts that barely do damage nowadays
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>>568279761
First urn is worth the same as a walker. Second urn is worht more than a walker. Third urn is worth two walkers. You ARE throwing if you don't take the urn, you weren't being penalized for it beause the enemy teams you were going against it are also shit and not doing the urn. Taking the urn meant you controlled the entire game. It was THE most important non-midboss objective in the game, still is really.
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>>568280078
>You ARE throwing if you don't take the urn
mmmmm nope
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mina rimming dynamos black hole
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>>568279880
It's worth more than a walker at 10 minutes (when it spawns) and only scales rapidly with every spawn, not even counting the golden statue permanent buffs you and your whole team gets from it. You run it every time it's up.
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>kelvin and urn still bugged

KINOOOOOOOO
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>>568280245
nah
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>>568279836
>>568280078
What's with the sudden influx of smug passive aggressive faggotry?
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>urn moved back to sidelanes
so that's it, huh? i was enjoying climbing ranks because everyone played urn but now we're back to 50 minutes farmslop waiting for the pos1 to delete my whole team in 90% of the games. archon btw
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>next patch
Moved urn drop-off to grave's asshole.
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>Suffer with Graves when she was dogshit
>She's hot shit now
>Game never gives her to me
Epic
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>>568280254
it'll be fixed in august, you'll see!
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>>568279570
Yes along with the six nipple gene
Valve are just too cowardly to show it
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just played my first game. its good. i like that we're back to sidelanes. i like that you can hide under the bridge so shit like seven lash isn't autowin.

there was one weird thing where the urn was favored for enemy team but spawned in our warehouse. surely that's not intended?
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What hero character skins will end up being the best long term investment?
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>>568280416
don't worry you can still cheese it with kelvin ya shitter you'll just have to try a little at least
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Good day ratbros

How do we feel about these urn changes? Do we think we can slurp up the walker at the other side of the map?
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>>568280432
How deep?
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MOVE IT BACK TO MID RIGHT NOW
MOVE IT BACK TO MID RIGHT NOW
MOVE IT BACK TO MID RIGHT NOW
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>that one complete fucking retard that never sticks with the team, has like 15 deaths to a brool game, and does the exact same shit each round (get gangbanged by the enemy team)
why do they do this?
like after the 3rd straight round of doing this don't you think you should realize this strategy is not working?
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>>568280565
I come from the future, around one year after adding skins to the game they'll add a workshop skin for Graves that makes her a bit too sexy, it will cause some minor controversy outrage because she's underaged and Valve will remove the skin from the store, leading to it being one of the rarest and most desirable skins in the game, and one of the most expensive in the aftermarket.
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>>568280647
>specific feature being focus tested and changed right now
>most of the discussion is surrounding that
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/urn/i stub:no;

You're welcome!
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>>568280656

Yes easily.
Mid made it too easy for people to rotate back to you. This gives you enough leeway to truly fuck the sidelanes up.
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>>568280903
... why?
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>>568280656
>>568280550
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>>568275162
My big bitch is the melee spam to swap teams. Just turns urns into a melee/parry clown show. I would enjoy a true king of the hill style. You stand in the urn to secure or contest. Timer stops if you are the contesting team and you stand in the circle. Swap the team still by heavy melee but you change the urgency to standing close instead of going for a heavy melee. You win the fight then swap the urn.

t. Alcheshitter
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>>568280647
>Wife is shot
>"SOMEONE PLEASE SAVE MY WIFE"
>"Okay but did you see the game last night?"
>"MY FUCKING WIFE MAN CALL AN AMBULANCE OR SOMETHING"
>"These gas prices am I right?"
>"I DON'T GIVE A SHIT MY WIFE IS DYING"
>"Tch. You're obsessed with your wife man. Wife this wife that. You ever shut up about her?"
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>>568280665
she's gonna be a 0-stamina hero after the first drop-off.
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>>568281113
I can't spot the sarcasm
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/urn/i stub:no;
/deadlock/i stub:no;
/melee/i stub:no;
/mina/i stub:no;

your welcome
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THE URN FIGHTS ARE STILL BURGERBOXING CLUSTERFUCKS
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echo shard paradox is the biggest winner of the new urn fights imo
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Bring back Walkers being headshottable again.
Make Base Guardians headshottable too while you're at it.
Not Shrines though.
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>urn urn urn urn urn urn
your game is going to die if it launches like this
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Has Kelvin's snowball stamina freeze always been a thing? Holy shit this is cancer to fight.
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There shpuld be objective in the game that players fight over that doesnt give souls

Instead it powers up their patron and lets them cast spells across the map
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>>568281372
Rapebait
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mina showing graves the correct way to rim ugly bastards
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>>568281431
i dunno but no one on earth likes playing vs that hero so he'll get changed soon
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>>568281184
Thats because you are ferociously retarded
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>>568281519
>Implying things not being fun has ever incited change
Victor's ult still exists
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>>568281548
can't be
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Buff graves gun dps and autoaim range already.
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>>568281574
there are an infinite number of things more cancer than fucking victor ult
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Why does Graves autoaim specifically piss off people when there's a million spiritslop AOEs you throw on the ground for free damage?
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>kelvin can still dome the urn
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I'm watching Eido's stream right now. MLC vs Floormen scrims. Literally nothing changed. They just brool KOTH in the sidelane instead of mid.
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>>568281710
because you can dodge aoe's
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I like the urn fights. Go back to Dota if you want to spend 30 minutes killing NPCs so bad
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>>568281372
>it's full of dog cum and she's frantically running to refrigerate it before it goes bad for consumption at a later date
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>>568281692
It was the first thing that came to mind
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>>568281103
the KotH area has to be like 50m to make it fair with all the aoe sloppa, but then it turns the urn into a guaranteed fight to the death instead of something with various win states
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>>568281879
>dota
>30 minutes killing npcs
unc this isn't 2013 anymore...
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Is Graves meta right now? Is that why I see so many fucking mouthbreathers playing my hero?
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Why does calico exist? Literally a worthless hero
>Bombs are clunky to aim and do mediocre damage
>Melee pounce is clunky to aim and does no damage, exists only to trigger melee items (which are now nerfed and do reduced effect on light melee)
>cat form is ok I guess
>ult is no damage + requires 3 seconds of consent to deal some more no damage
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Kill camps after pushing waves and inbetween moving lane to lane. Still have one of the lowest soul counts. Should you really just be brooling nonstop for assist souls?
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>>568282143
Doesn't read patch notes award
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>>568277317
>>568277440
I miss 2014 League too... I want to play like SSW's world championship run in Deadlock. For context, the team won every single game (except a troll pick one against a trash NA team) and ended their games 20% faster than the tournament average. There hasn't been a performance gap that large ever since.

They picked comps that were powerful early to mid game and had enormous roam potential that it sometimes felt like they were everywhere on the map. If anyone's tapped into Dota tournaments please let me know of a team that plays like that.

I'm trying to draft something similar. Maybe Drifter, Lash, Mina, Mirage, Yamato, and Vyper?
Drifter Mina Lash is your Rengar & Jarvan. CC, damage, plus good pitfight. They also have good mobility on their kits so they make for a good rape train.
Mirage just side pushes and TPs for teamfights or sometimes an important pick.
Idk about Yamato Vyper it just felt close to Twitch & Thresh.
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bro I rape as Abrams what's going on
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Niggas really rage quitting inhouse
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The new urn is good

But now we really need another objective to split teams up
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>>568282862
S4 League is a third person shooter game, not league of legends in 2014, dumbass.
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>Friend lost his perfect 34-0 match cause he died to urn not knowing it did damage
>uninstalls the game
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>>568282951
How do I tilt Shiv players? Is that what happened here?
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>>568282143
most gun graves.
Im a CHAD spirit graves that rapes heroes with her skulls
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>>568277317
YEAH YEAH Y'ALL READY? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wH4lvVvjQnc
>>568282951
bwahahahahahaha what a pathetic faggot
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>>568283037
I'm sorry..........
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>>568283247
you should be for assuming playing league during it's cultural peak was elite ball knowledge
i'll let you off with a warning this time
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This change is good. One of the bigger issues about this urn was it was too close to mid and removed any chance of people getting value elsewhere, removing shit like 1v1/2v2 walker fights and just being a 6v6 always.
This fixes that and also makes Urn harder to turn in.
Also didn't the old advantage/disadvantage turn in points used to have a pedestal for the urn? Why didn't they bring it back?
>>568282143
Anytime graves isn't shit she's one of the most popular characters in the game because she's braindead to get value out of when she's good. And people LOVE cheap power like that. She's
>So why don't people play braindead chars like warden?
M1 can never reach the level of true brain dead that braindead spirit chars can. Even aiming is too much for most people
>>568283103
>"Most are gun graves, I'm a chad spirit graves raping with skulls"
>Buzz lightyear aisle.png
Her most popular and best build rn is hybrid spirit leaning on shit like recharge rush, echo, mystic shot, and heroic aura dude.
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>can actually take walkers all the way base now with the new urn

We are back deadtards
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>>568283416
I just like shitting out summons and watching them smack paige in her tits
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>>568281824
The people hemming and hawing about the urn placement didnt get called retarded enough so valve is forcing everyone to continue with the dipshit urn
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>>568283589
Literally how? Wraith?
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>>568283090
>How do I tilt Shiv players?
Slowing hex, silence wave, and curse
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>>568283748
Wraith, Seven, Victor, Geist, etc
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They don't know what to do with the urn it seems
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now that the weekend of torture is over
what was the moral of the story bros?
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>>568283589
ratbros and farmgawds, we are so back. we no longer have to play objectives just farm sidelanes and rape everyone in 60 minutes
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https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/as-a-doorman-you-can-delete-soul-urn-until-the-next-one-spawns.135536/
You can delete urns as doorman. Yes it works on the new patch.
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When the fuck is the community going to get over the notion that Holiday is hard or has skill expression?
She has jump pads which just make movement easier, it doesn't actually make movement expressive or anything.
>But you need to be good to get anything out of her.
Yeah because she's SHIT. Being a shit character doesn't make her have good skill expression. She's a aim slop, movement slop character. Silver has more fucking skill expression.
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My matches have devolved into gun deathballs and I'm not sure how much of it is the patch and how much of it is from me losing a ton of ranks from a really bad loss streak
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>>568284328
BASED DoorGOD saving us from Urnbrooling
>>
> Join game
> Mina is on my team
> She's on mic, it's a woman
> Keeps spamming links to her cosplay shit
> Refuses to do anything unless someone else does it for her, see her at walker against a 4-9 Paige who is alone refusing to even shoot creeps
> Complains loudly when someone "steals her kill" even though all she does is ult when she sees someone low and then immediately run away
> Bitching me out because I "refuse to push and get her slots"
> Surprise surprise it's a loss
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>>568284340
Its honestly fucking ridiculous how absurd the jump pads are

I played her for like two weeks and it was insane how easy she actually is to play
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>>568284340
And she's completely useless outside of being an ultbot with movement. Celeste is also movementslop but she can at least do good damage
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>>568283889
That just tilts everybody!
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>>568284340
I saw a tier list of skill expression and it put mina and holiday near the top and sinclair at the bottom
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>>568284397
If you're not a pussy you'd drop a match ID.
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>YOU'RE ABOUT TO HAVE A REAL BAD LAY...
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The urn is still going to be a retard AoE parryfest until the whole team dies
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>>568284340
>>568284441
>>568284635
Don't care she is literally the only character thats fun to play in the game.
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>>568282246
>>Bombs are clunky
retard cant aim
>>Melee pounce is clunky to aim
retard cant aim
>>cat form is ok
retard
>>ult is no damage
retard
You are retarded, that's why she exists.
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>urn is under the sidelane bridge
>can now completely wall off both sides with echo shard mcginnis
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>>568285185
Immediately posted this when I saw how small the fighting area is.
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Why does Yoshi want you to commit so hard to a full suicide teamwipe
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>>568285131
He's a shitter about the aim but he's right about Calico doing no damage.
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>>568274365
Yet
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>>568284760
anon wants the cosplay links
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>>568285408
He hates us and wants the game to be shit.
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>>568285442
get outta here skeleton
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>>568285408
>Why does Yoshi want you to commit so hard to a full suicide teamwipe
They literally changed turn in off mid and into the sidelanes to lessen the obligation to urn fight, now if you're in the opposite sidelane you can push that for free instead.
>>568285483
Oof, just realized that's what it sounds like.
More so just like seeing foids seethe and tired of faggots lying on 4chan for clout.
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>>568285685
how can it be for clout if they are anonymous
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green items are way too strong

every issue with the game right now is a consequence of this fact
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>>568285685
Previously, you could send some guy with a rapid firing gun to the urn and go split push and also try steal souls. Now it's like you either get all those souls or none of them and usually urn is better for economy. It's all about when you need the slots when it comes to walker.
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>>568285767
attention, clout, whatever.
Same shit as a redditor going "AITA?" and retelling the events that paint them in a more positive light.
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>>568285685
This whole thing is still overdesigned. Old urn was simple and organically started teamfights
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>>568285964
i like that it gets the farmniggers to fights instead of sitting in side lane 24/7 just to be useless at 50k souls
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>>568285032
stinky
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>>568286054
Fine lets just get extra contrived with the design and have a timer so that players instantly die if they don't fight another player every 2 minutes
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>>568285596
>>568285131
I accept your concession
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I feel like most of the time I get laned against a Warden that giga rapes me so I always end up like 1/5 and then I manage to win in the late game by outscaling him
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>>568285964
>"...and organically started teamfights"
no. this has never EVER been the case with the urn. it's specifically designed to force teamfights.
>"no but you can splitpush..."
that strategy already existed well before the urn did
>"but you can ignore it and still win"
that doesn't mean anything, especially given how bad matchmaking is + the rampant smurfing/cheating. this game will substantially improve once yoshi stops trying to compromise and just removes it.
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>>568286323
that sound like a retarded idea anon, i'm glad you're not designing any games
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apollo nerfs dont feel that bad in chadlow
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>>568285270
except thats not the area you fight the urn in?
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>>568286462
ESL bro...
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>>568242006
meant to quote the OP about my epic apollo winrate
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I like the new urn now, you actually get smaller fights on it not always a 6v6 brawl. And even the 6v6 brawl feels way better with the terrain available.
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>>568286054
farmniggers still ignore fighting over the urn, especially if their team already has the advantage in the match. you only like the supposed idea that it strongarms farmniggers into fighting over the urn but that's not how it manifests in reality.
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>>568286367
queue celeste skeleton
and start stream
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>>568285839
>Previously, you could send some guy with a rapid firing gun to the urn and go split push and also try steal souls
Nobody did this. If you got urn you got 90% of urn souls unless whoever turned in was a literal newb.
>>568285964
>Organically started teamfights
You don't know what organic means kek. It was a objective that gave your whole team souls. That's clearly intended to be fought over with your team. It's no different now. Mid urn is bad because it takes attention away from the side lanes and because mid is so close to everything there's no point in NOT trying to fight for urn because you either
>Couldn't get value doing other stuff like pushing a sidelane walker cuz the entire enemy team would be close enough to close in on you anyway after fighting.
>Were so close to mid already you might as well participate in the teamfight.
Using urn as an distraction to take a walker has always been a thing because urn turn in points were far away from the other side of the map. The general turn in changes were an overall improvement, mid urn was however bad because again, too close to everything else on the map. Especially with mid-boss, considering how easy it was to turn a good urn fight into INSTANT mid boss, urn fights are more important since you don't want to lose urn and THEN midboss immediately, therefore exacerbating the issue of no sidelane shenanigans while urn was going on.
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>>568286575
People need to start buying unstoppable and stop treating it like an optional item
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>>568286579
it does though, i'm speaking from experience. old urn never saw this many 6v6s
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>>568286575
>I like the new urn now, you actually get smaller fights on it not always a 6v6 brawl
what dogwater rank are you playing in?
>And even the 6v6 brawl feels way better with the terrain available.
no it doesn't. all it did was switch the selection of cancer picks for urn fights (aside from kelvin and graves). it's still aoe spirit spam and melee slop regardless
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>>568286529
Oh I just didn't read the bottom text.
I mean, he says 'this small space' and posts a picture of a space.
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BR3WY
BR3WY

2 more for inhouse
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>>568286579
>>568286798
cont. to be fair this could also just be the new music and patron voice lines since we know farmniggers are gophers on a keyboard that pay no attention to their minimap. good either way
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>>568281969
Probably true. I just really hate the melee/parry fest on urns. Make the teamfights more like a coin flip than anything skillful.
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>>568286579
There are niggers who ignore objectives to farm and push every game. Even HOTS which puts more emphasis on it than any other MOBA you will have a dipshit nazeebo not showing up to ANY teamfight ever and losing you the game because he's allergic to fighting.
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https://forums.playdeadlock.com/threads/can-people-please-report-this-dude.136993/

This kind of behavior cant be tolerated in our deadlock everyone.
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>>568286419
>it's specifically designed to force teamfights.

That's what I meant. The urn forced teamfights in a way that didn't feel so heavy handed, as opposed to forcibly sitting players down at the urn and making them play this stupid fucking gimmicky Mario Party minigame because the developer is so afraid people won't actually fight. Even the rejuv has more tact than that.
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>>568286771
I have it at 20 minute mark ish every game for rejuv fights
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Be honest, you're gonna miss it
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>>568286907
+1 more dude
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>>568286963
leaguetards calling for reports will never not be funny
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>>568286798
the root issue isn't player participation in urn fights, it's the fact that the "comeback mechanic" urn is supposed to be still doesn't function as a comeback mechanic and it's genuinely unfun and inorganic.
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>>568287113
i think its very fun. idk what "inorganic" is supposed to mean. are walkers organic? is the mid boss?

now that it's only 3 seconds for the favored team its much closer to being a comeback mechanic, 3 seconds isn't even enough to bait parries out so its auto yours if you deposit it. also it starts in your warehouse
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>walked away from the urn thinking it was already over cause the fight lasted 45 seconds

Also, what is up with death heads? Do they follow endlessly? I carpeted away and died on the carpet to death heads that followed me across the map. I was expecting them to fall away but they never did.
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>>568287092
idk what they even expect you to report. nobody gets banned from profile reports unless they explicitly have NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER NIGGER on their profile bio or something.
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>>568275162
gonna try this out now
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This games retarded now blood
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>>568281969
Yeah I thought that too.
>Less parry slop but also less outgunned clutch urn grab moments
I'd rather have parry slop than Urn be even fucking worse in terms of snowballing because it turns into a "stronger team wins always" thing.
>>568286925
This too, old urn sometimes I wouldn't even realize that someone picked up urn aannnnd the celeste that grabbed urn without telling anyone just got jumped by 5 people and died with urn right next to the turn in point and is now bitching that nobody helped her.
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>>568242006
>nothing about the urn is fixed, it's actually even worse
what does this dev team even do?
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BR3WY
BR3WY
BR3WY
BR3WY
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>>568287353
yeah thats why its funny kek, i love valve so much
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>>568287409
>even worse
Nah
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>>568287313
it literally doesn't matter where it starts if you have to take it to the middle of the map and deliver it on a silver platter to the aoeslop heroes on the opposing team
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>>568287113
>ai
eugh
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>>568286963
I don't have a forum account you'll have to describe it to me
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>>568287409
>It's actually even worse
It's not?
I swear some of you niggers just say "THIS UPDATE SUCKS, THEY MADE IT WORSE" to literally anything Valve could do.
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>>568286986
??????????????? it's extremely heavy handed. that's why it occurs at such a high frequency, plants the hill in the middle of a lane, tries to give the losing team huge advantages like massive resist, greater boons than sinners, and ultimately a compounding gold swing. yoshi absolutely wants you to fight over the urn.
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>>568287469
That's real you retard
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New urn idea: Touching the urn pauses the game and teleports all of the players to a race track and whoever gets past the finish line first gets souls for their team
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>>568287462
>JUST LET ME WIN EVERY GAME EVEN THOUGH I LOST EARLY :'(((((
anon...
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>>568287113
WTF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
IS THIS REAL??????????
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>>568287514
Some guy with the name Transbian Stud calls his entire team every slur under the sun as the game ends
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>>568287574
if they balanced every hero to equally strong in early game, you might have a point
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The game should entirely be about fighting for urns
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>>568287640
if their heroes are stronger than yours early game you're not supposed to fight them. are you retarded or baiting. either way im gonna stop responding to your shit takes
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New urn was most likely designed around low rank stats that they weren't delivering or fighting over the urn enough
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>>568287313
zoomer hands typed this
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>>568287313
>think its very fun
and i think you are a stupid nigger
.>idk what "inorganic" is supposed to mean. are walkers organic? is the mid boss?
that's because you are a retarded nigger, they are core parts of the game unlike the urn, stupid niger
>its closer to being a comeback mechanic
that only means that it is not a comeback mechanic and still is a win more objective for the team that is ahead, dumb nigger
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>>568287727
yeah that used to be a viable strat three days ago, now if your teams aren't ready for aoeslop teamfighting at minute 10:00, you've already lost
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My Venator got stunned one time then said "never again"
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>>568286963
This. So. Much. This.
You're a fucking snowflake if you support free speech.
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>>568287774
that's retarded if true, it was literally fine to have a slightly complex objective that increased in relevance as you rose through the ranks
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>>568287774
and I'd wager they still fight over the urn at the same rate they did before the update on the 22nd
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>>568287515
it's literally worse because you have less resistances noe and is still a fest of aoe abilities and spam of parries but now in a different location
are you raped? you must be due to the way you type
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>>568287813
(you)
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>>568287845
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>>568287845
Buying both is actually really good on characters with strong melee because it lets you throw heavy melees carelessly till indomitable gets popped which reduces your cds and you can keep the unstoppable for when you need it.
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>>568287936
its okay to mute people you think are annoying
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>>568287936
>I'm gonna insult you for being okay with insults while I'm not
huh
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>>568288108
most people who are adamantly against "toxicity" are assholes irl and two faced as fuck so this tracks
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NERF GRAVES

so faggots stop picking my wife
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>>568287951
The issue is that most of the time you have one team that actually pays attention to the urn and is coordinated with both delivery and defense and the other team just barely gives a fuck and lets them have free urns
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I like that pro players are using the comeback urn as a super buffed resist aura.
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>>568287990
>no argument
thought so, stupid nigger
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>>568288404
how is that a problem?
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>>568287429
I'm joining just so I can go 0/4 and then quit
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>>568288490
(you)
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>mutes you for being toxic
>reports you for being toxic
heh, nothing personnel kid
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>>568288512
This is something that isn't going to be fixed by changing the way the urn works because the players are stupid
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>>568287429
>>BR3WY
full?
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>>568287813
>urn isn't a core part of the game
>still didn't define what makes something "organic" as opposed to "inorganic"
N
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>>568287960
A 100% EHP increase WAS too much. If you were JUST hitting the threshold your advantage turned into a disadvantage.
>but now in a different location
If you don't know why mid urn was bad then you clearly need to learn more about the game.
>>568287774
It wasn't just low-ranks, even mid rank people were straight up ignoring that shit too much.
>>568287951
My issue is that urn QUICKLY becomes more worth than Walker as the game goes on. Sure the slots are always going to eventually come into play but there's no real gain in going for map objectives over urn at a point unless it's like mid walker or your slotlocked. People should be rewarded for taking walkers or objectives over urn imo.
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>anons namedrop a game that i've never heard
>search it up bcus im curious
>its some of the most niggerlicious ugly ass weebshit gameplay to have ever spawned from IRL niggerhell (korea) a whole decade plus ago

unc niggas...
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>>568288471
Wait, nevermind. I don't like it. I just realized that the urn resets to the loser's side of the map so they just have constant 35% resists until they make a play to make a comeback.
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I just had an idea for an urn rework
See, I think, ideally, the urn should benefit the losing team more than the winning team, but not too much so, and not without effort or risk
Consider the following
Rather than driving souls, it gives the team who runs it a bonus on souls gained from killing npcs and taking objectives. This is active while the runner has the Urn. The urn runner has his movement speed reduced but is otherwise fully functional, and drops the urn on death.
The losing team could coordinate acquiring it while engaging an enemy guardian or walker, while the winning team, probably having already destroyed the losing teams objectives, having fewer objectives to clear, would get less value from it.
This would also mean adjusting the value of npcs and objectives somewhat.
Would this work? Probably not
Revert apollo changes
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>>568288724
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/dlg/ isn't ready for this, but instant-doorman-urn was the best era for doorman and urn
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urn status?
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vaxx status??
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>>568289000
not reading allat happy for you tho
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>>568289183
I need help running this urn!
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>>568288683
>It wasn't just low-ranks, even mid rank people were straight up ignoring that shit too much.

There's a limit to how much they can babysit and handhold shitty players. In simple hero shooters you still have players in the mid ranks showing the same terrible habits and fundamental misunderstanding of the game. The majority of the playerbase will always gravitate towards the turn your brain off auto-pilot playstyles no matter what you do.
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does 50% bullet resist mean i take 50% less damage from all bullet attacks?
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>>568287936
Quanterox being trans and furry I reckon xe has a vested interest in preventing free speech
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>>568288674
>urn isn't a core part of the game
it literally isn't
>still didn't define what makes something "organic" as opposed to "inorganic"
you shouldn't be so retarded that i have to explain that to you, dumb nigger
organic fights: around the guardians, walkers, midboss and patreon because its your job to attack and defend them and one of those gives a buff that in theory should be used to close the game
inorganic shit: yoshi teleporting everyone to a spot on the map to fight every 6 minutes so you get a couple of souls

you are a stupid aids infested nigger
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>>568289270
>inhouse
>they just brool
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Stats show players don't use cover enough therefore we should have a Gears of War cover button that glues you to the nearest wall
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>>568288741
>>568288471
I thought the urn resist was only in an area around urn, not fucking team wide.
>>568289375
Yes. Though bullet resist shred does exist.
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>>568289553
>inhouse
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>>568288683
no matter the location the urn is still bad, now worse because you have less resistances
you sound extremely raped
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>>568289270
>bunch_of_retards_fighting.webm
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>>568289557
damn i guess thats why i use covers so much i was a gow3 addict
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>>568289447
(you)
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>>568289579
Yeah, it's 60m around the urn whether you're carrying, depositing it or it's DROPPED. You can literally walk with a deathball into an area, drop it and start fucking people up in the 35 seconds of leeway it gives you before the urn starts the reset. I was watching the FM vs MLC scrim and MLC lost because FM abused this mechanic.
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>>568289447
>you shouldn't be so retarded that i have to explain that to you, dumb nigger
>i don't actually know, you're supposed to just know like i totally do
You still didn't actually explain it, you just said one is organic and one isn't because... it just is, OK?
I
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Everytime I complain about how shit the urn is, I get some redditors telling me that the game is in alpha and now is the time to experiment and they're collecting data and blah blah blah stfu how about they *experiment* with removing the urn entirely and see how much better the game gets
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>>568289270
ARGGGGGGGGGH IM BROOLING YOSHI IM BROOOOOOOOOLING IM GONNA BROOOOOOL OOOOOOH BURGERBOX MY ASSHOLE WITH THE URN YOSHI GRAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH
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>>568289912
the redditors also wanted to call you a whiny faggot nigger but couldn't so i'll just do it for them
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>>568289776
dont fall for it anon
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brooling is good actually
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>>568289270
let the bodies hit the brool
let the bodies hit the brool
let the bodies hit the
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>>568289443
too old
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You've lived long enough to see Icefrog turn another moba into a BROOL simulator
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What's the end goal for the item system?
Do they want every item to have a component?
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>>568289945
>BURGERBOX
where the fuck did this one even come from anyway
i've not even heard that one used as an americanism before
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>>568290363
feels like the item system is pretty much finished to me
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>>568290409
Americans brool and spam melee in lane at level 1 a lot
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Is Street Brawl supposed to be unbalanced bullshit? I keep getting off-build items and 800 greens while the other team gets multiple enhanced 6.4ks in a row.
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eido is crying he lost because of comeback urn
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>>568287048
I ALREADY miss it.
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>>568290502
that wasn't the question being asked stupid nigger
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>>568290609
I was gonna tell you but you were mean to that anon so now I'm not gonna tell you
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>>568290502
oh so it was invented specifically in deadlock? guess that explains why i'd never heard of it before
i hate americanisms
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>>568290760
It was coined by a euro, how is that an americanism
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>>568290482
They just changed like 7 items to have upgrade paths that didn't before
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>>568290895
i think thats a change to help new players along rather than something to overhaul the system. also its like 3 items
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>>568290703
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>>568290552
Eido and the rest of MLC are faggots who abuse the test server info they get from butt buddies in the test server (butt buddies explicitly because every e6 faggot in the test server got kicked because they're retards who couldn't resist leaking for clout) to win tournies.
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Inhibitor is perhaps the most powerful item available. People overlook it as a pure antiheal item but that 30% enemy damage reduction is ridiculous and guarantees winning any 1v1.
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>>568290895
They also added a lot more cross-type upgrade paths. Like ballistic enhance (gun) upgrading from mystic expansion (spirit)
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>>568291110
4 from the addition of grit and 3 from sharpshooter, ballistic enhancement, and spirit overflow
The system is seemingly incomplete
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>>568290853
because it's about americans
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>>568291185
I unironically think even supports should consider it late
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>>568291430
we're getting caught up on semantics, i just don't think a few new upgrade paths and 1 (one) new item means system overhaul
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There’s too little upgrades for tier 4 gun items
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>>568291185
Fighting with inhib+scarab on you is actually just miserable, it's like fighting in a dream where nothing you can do does damage.
Thank god they gave it some diminishing returns in this patch.
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>>568290363
some t4 items could have a t2 component at least even if you lose part of their stats like healbane to spirit burn without changing anything to both items, return fire to plated armor, buying a 6k item without components feels like shit early because you're walking around with 1k+ unsecured souls
some items have much more value than others too like, how do you compare mystic reverb to boundless spirit
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>>568291541
>>568290760
>>568290502
>>568290409
And Euros say they're not obsessed with America.
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>people complained when urn was in mid but they admitted it was fun
>now they're complaining again when it's back in the sidelanes but no longer having fun
So, what's the play here?
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>>568291910
I'm not European, why are Americans so obsessed with Europeans they assume anyone who isn't American is European?
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>>568292039
I wasn't aware that you were the original person who coined the term 'burgerboxing' anon.
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>>568292002
put the urn on the ship and garden instead.
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>>568292002
Sidelane urn IS fun for me though. It's just mid urn brooling but I don't feel bad when I back door walker in the sidelaner role sometimes instead of constantly heading to mid every 5 minutes.
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>>568292002
add 19 other mini objectives and randomize it every 5 mins
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thesde urn changes reminds me of the "underground jail" changes that plagued dota udnerlords before eos
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>>568292319
Hots my beloved...
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>>568292002
i like both
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>>568292002
map is too small to have perfectly symmetrical neutral objectives like urn and mid boss, they're going to have to add neutral objetives that are just a little closer to each team's side but not easy enough to do with just 2 people so more macro plays can happen
maybe opening a path to make it easier to reach side objetive after you take their guardian
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>>568292002
Urn just spawns in the base with the lowest networth and have to dunk it on guardiand like pokemon unite
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I will never leave shitlow as long as it means I get to keep doing this on Graves.
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>>568292002
i think the only thing that still needs hotfixing is the bonus resistances on comeback urns, the rest is good actually
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>>568292002
This place only complains. New = bad no matter what.
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>sakurai makes all 82 smash ultimate characters close to, or perfectly viable in competitive play
>yoshi makes some characters out of 38 heroes in deadlock actual throw picks, or completely irrelevant in higher elo
how the fuck did sakurai do that
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>>568292002
they're complaining about muh competitive integrity, eido is talking about league and baseball trying to justify why having the urn pickup so close to the walker is awful because they get walker resistance on top of it, completely ignoring that you might have taken that walker if you're ahead and that there is just their pickup you don't HAVE to fight them on pickup
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>>568292870
They deliberately over buff characters (Yamato this patch) and then over nerf them when Reddit cries too much (unless they're Dynamo), I don't know what the plan is.
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Today, I will learn McGinnis. Also, why is there no Miku Hatsune mod for her? I thought that was obvious.
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I’m considering making siphon bullets a regular on my wraith build. The health bloat in this game is real.
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Literally all they have to do to fix Yamato is make it a skillshot, no longer make it teleport through walls, and remove the free +40 spirit power it gives
>inb4 bro shes fucking useless now
you still get unstoppable and 60% resists with your ult mate
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>>568292002
>they admitted it was fun

Nobody said this
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>>568292638
on this gen the replies to a new update are actually funny to read through
the deadlock subreddit is full of literal manchildren though that are unironically serious about whatever buffe- for-the-month character made them drop their ice cream cone and cry about it
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>>568292870
>introduced Minecraft Steve and never even tried to make him balanced then abandoned the game
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>>568293081
Your turrets will always be destroyed instantly as soon as you throw one out and your wall will almost always do the opposite of you what you want, just a reminder
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>>568293205
>@Eidorian510 - May 23, 2026
>>after playing @DeathyDL $10,000 tourney today i can say this urn mechanic even if its unbalanced right now is so fucking fun oh my god
>>Day 2 Tomorrow
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>>568293347
honestly one woopsie out of 81 goodies is still really fucking impressive all things considered
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>>568293480
>it's fun when they're winning
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Went to test new urn but the server would absolutely shit itself every time we trying to fight over it, talking 120ms server latency and 5 tick rate
even then it was clear it's better than before, also kelvin and mcginnis were banned
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it's also hard to take competitive integrity seriously when funnily enough the two teams with direct developer access are versing each other in the finals. If you’re actively helping shape patches and getting insight before public release, that’s an extreme advantage ESPECIALLY when a major update drops a DAY BEFORE the event. we can’t prep equally when some teams effectively get early information. teams with players that are in the "experimental server" or in contact with the developers should not be allowed to compete in my opinion. i can also confidently state this because i was previously in the "experimental server" and the information that I was receiving would have been extremely advantageous had I been playing on a team at that time.
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>>568293480
so wheres the post of eidorian saying that it's not fun now?
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>>568293582
isn't that just all online multiplayer games in general
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>>568293637
he literally said its still fun, he disagrees with the resistances and the pickup location changing that's it
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if u llike urn changes u r indian
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>>568293742
>one of the deadlock devs is a massive eido meatrider
game's future might actually be cooked
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How do you cancel Yamato's flying slash?
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>>568293625
Wow! Did you write that whole post yourself???
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>>568250245
>there are actual comp players out there that have access to some experimental discord cabal server where the deadlock devs hang out in
>>568293813
so if we put things into perspective here, what exactly is stopping any of the top comp players influencing the meta of the game?
FUCK is this why random characters get megabuffed and giganerfed every patch? what kinda dick sucking are the top comp players doing in the deadlock dev cabal server to protect dynamo from nerfs?
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New urn location is definitely a lot better. Being under the bridge helps quite a bit. Increased timer is obviously a big improvement, fights sometimes feel like they basically last until one team is completely dead now but at least there's no last-second stealing. I'm not sure if I like this more than the original urn mechanics but this iteration is enough of an improvement that I can tolerate playing the game. I wish they would just do a ctf style thing with the urn though, I'd like to see how that plays.
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>>568293842
Did I write it myself? No, Anon, I hired a team of elite ghostwriters from the deep web and paid them in rare Pepes just to shatter your fragile little worldview.

It’s called copy-pasting, you absolute brainlet. I’ve had that exact wall of text saved in my Notepad since 2019, waiting for a mid-tier NPC like you to post some major bait so I could drop it and watch you seethe.

Go outside. Touch some grass. Shower

0/10 bait, try harder next time.
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>>568293965
the meatriding in that cabal server must be crazy for dynamo to stay in the shape he's been in for months
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time to go flying
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>>568294041
>Increased timer is obviously a big improvement
Agreed.
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>>568293742
I don't see how the pickup location is that bad, if you're ahead and took their mid guardian you can easily get to their pickup locations, and that's if you don't just fight them at drop where said location doesn't even matter
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>>568293393
I'm just honestly learning her because the alternative metacuck pick, Graves, while sexo, is very boring to play. At least I get to have fun with the artillery ultbot build.
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>>568293965
>so if we put things into perspective here, what exactly is stopping any of the top comp players influencing the meta of the game?
>FUCK is this why random characters get megabuffed and giganerfed every patch?
This would make everything that's been happening in the last few months after the Old Gods, New Blood update finally make perfect sense.
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>a dev put some shitty copypasta in a streamer chat so that must mean the devs work for the streamers
o i am laffin
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This 8 second shit fuckin SUCKS
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>if you drop urn near a walker the server cpu shoots up to 600% and it makes people lag out
what do we think about thist
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Standard right now is actually more monkey brooling than actual street brool because you have to fight around a single point instead of an entire lane.
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>>568294314
see
>>568250245 (You)
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>>568294101
>They can try to fight back but it won't matt-aaaaaaaaaaaaahhh!!
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>>568294386
eido said he wasn't in any server though?
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>>568294101
>ee + decay
bet he teleported to you and oneshot your ass
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>>568294447
Playing devil's advocate here
I mean just because he didn't say it doesn't mean it automatically can't be true, no?
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>>568292870
What are you talking about, the balance in Ultimate is horrible. Over half the roster is fucking useless aside from universal mechanics like (you know it) parry and 3 frame jumpsquat, while Steve is SS tier.
Every high tier is about how well they can ignore the normal mechanics bad characters have to use.
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>>568294373
>game is fun when people are brooling instead of farming in jungle for 30 years
broolGAWDS can't stop WINNING
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>>568294617
>Over half the roster is fucking useless
the meta disparity in ultimate cannot be that bad compared to melee or brawl
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>>568294543
so we can either think that eido is a liar or that a dev team as experienced as valve can't navigate player feedback and are getting their ideas from 20 year olds

you be the judge which is less believable
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>>568294534
Read this in Drifter's voice
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do I do it
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>>568294720
It's not if you ignore Steve, but that wasn't the topic either.
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>>568294751
>a dev team as experienced as valve can't navigate player feedback and are getting their ideas from 20 year olds
you say this skeptically, but this is unironically what they are fucking doing besides the eido cabal dev shit or whatever
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>8/10 games won on graves since the new patch
God I love being dogshit at video games.
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>>568294093
Not reading all that.
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honestly the map should just get increased in size
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>>568294921
>implies he can read in the first place
kek

TL;DR: You got filtered by four sentences. Go back to TikTok, your attention span is cooked.
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>>568295046
Maybe you should go back to twitter since that's where you're getting all your post material from.
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honestly silver's model should include a very well-defined cookie bulge
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>>568294965
I'm starting to find that all the current map problems just circle back to the original removal of the fourth lane
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>>568294836
do you have a single fact to back that up
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>>568295169
>>>and are getting their ideas from 20 year olds
where do you think apollo came from?
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>>568295126
>implying i use xitter
kek u absolute tourist u only think that because your fried tiktok brain can only comprehend 280 characters at a time go back to your safe space normie before i track your IP on a map from 2008 0/10 bait rent free
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>>568295293
Reddit is much worse anon.
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>>568290760
Yes and it's something NA players should take pride in. They aren't pussies and will fight early to secure a lead and press advantage. On the outside it looks like shitflinging, and it is in some ways. But it works.
Impose your dominance, and force the other players to play your game. Bait parries, melee, shoot heads repeatedly.
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>>568295293
is there as many trannies on the deadlock subreddit that I'm led to believe, redditanon?
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>miku can IAD while ulting
I've never seen any Miku player do this. She can actually chase someone while ulting.
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>>568295252
so that's a no?
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>>568295424
>BBZZZZTT
the correct answer is: the forums, anon
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>urn is now a mosh pit with everyone beating the shit out of eachother to hit the urn
>literally the perfect situation for a dynamo ult
>new change makes it even better since it's a cramped space with plenty of wall rape
One patch, one fucking patch that doesn't benefit Dynamo PLEASE ONE FUCKING PATCH THAT MAKES HIM WORSE YOU CANNOT KEEP FUCKING BUFFING THE NUTTY NIGGER FOREVER
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>>568295415
She can use ziplines too, It's funny as fuck to zip into a fight with missiles flying everywhere and airstall as long as you can with walljumps.
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>If the urn is dropped near a walker area the entire game server goes to shit, game turns into a 5 fps slideshow and hard disconnects people

Reminder these devs are paid 500k+ a year.
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>>568295349
WTF DID U JUST SAY TO ME U LITTLE SNEAKY BASTARD u think im a basedfaced ledger-reading frontpage fronting upvote-farming pleb???
>implying i care about internet points or what the mainstream thinks of me
im typing this from a basement u can only dream of smelling u absolute casual do not ever disrespect me with the r-word again or ill drop your geolocation in a general thread within 2 mins flat clear your cache and cope harder bozo
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>>568295505
- Dynamo: Kinetic Pulse spirit scaling reduced from 1.55 to 1.5499
dynamo stocks DOWN
more down then they've ever been before after this patch
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>>568295539
tell ur mom to stop hitting me up, she's a washed up whore and im not trying to stick my dick in that meat cavern.
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>>568295492
and this means they are making balancing decisions according to twitch streamers because..?
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>>568295535
the best of the best in the industry
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HOW DO I HAVE GAMES WHERE THREE PEOPLE HAVE 0 OBJECTIVE DAMAGE
THIS RANK IS SUPPOSED TO BE ON THE RIGHT SIDE OF THE BELL CURVE
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>>568295615
u think u did something there kek absolute cope u literally had to bring up a mom joke in 2026 because your 85 IQ brain fried itself trying to come up with a real comeback
>implying anyone believes a basement-dwelling virgin who havent seen the sun since the obama administration is touching any meat besides the expired tendies his own mother brought down to him 20 mins ago
projection at its finest stay mad and stay single u absolute clown
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>>568295710
eomm
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>>568295643
>a dev team as experienced as valve can't navigate player feedback and are getting their ideas from 20 year olds
what the fuck kind of age group do you think makes up most of the deadlock forums, anon...?
I just don't think them taking ideas from 20 year olds is as outlandish as you think it is
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i like using rem lil helpers more to help teammates than push lanes
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>>568295643
The Doorman nerfs this patch were almost exclusively coming from the top-elo streamers.
I don't know about the Shitcord drama or whatever, but streamers definitely have a bigger effect on the game's balancing than they should.
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>>568295595
remember, if dynamo ever gets a slight nerf to his stomp's spirit scaling, then he got larp nerfed in that particular patch
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>>568295781
the "20 year olds" are specifically referring to the streamers you people are doomposting about figureheading the game's development. even if it wasn't, a community-designed hero making it into the game is about as good evidence for this as the copy pasta in eido's chat
>>568295895
in what world? playing vs doorman was universally hated. even playing with him was hated in this very general with people whining about doorshitters ulting targets just so the enemy team could bail them out
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>>568295812
I don't really think about the enemy helpers until I realize I had to heavy melee a single trooper 4 times to kill it.
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>>568295710
nigger I get people with 0 objective damage 11 deaths 8k player damage in 30 minute games in LOW ETERNUS GAMES
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Chat, what about this idea.
>add a new sidelane objective
>open up the t3 camp in the sidelane bridge like in sandbox mode and add the new miniboss there
>this new miniboss will give golden statue buffs to the players who defeat it (scaling with time like urn of course)
>remove the golden statue buff bonus from urn
So, players have to choose whether they want permanent stat bonuses or souls.
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The urn is a placebo, this is a pve game. I used to hate the change but then I realized it made sneaking walkers way easier. I simply play Wraith, farm everything in sight, sneak walkers, destroy anyone who wants to 1v1 me, and magically around the 30 minute mark I’m 10-20k souls over everybody else and have complete authority over the match. And for some reason nobody in Archon builds disarming hex. Although if it’s one thing I learned today after bouting with a shiv in chat it’s that people REALLY don’t want to go off build to counter buy. Tier 4’s are crucial especially those first 2-3 and a lot of heroes have trouble farming. Just like wave management people just pray another teammate will handle it.
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remove parries, they are cheats
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I am flabbergasted beyond belief holy shit, we were winning 2 of 3 lanes just because we were playing properly and punishing the enemy team for diving, the one lane that we were losing was because our teammates were playing like shit, they dced 5 minutes in. Then the seven leaves as well, its just me rem and billy, billy tells us he's got this shit on lock, to just play defensive and let him farm, and farm he did. Eventually our guardians fell and so did our walkers, but every time they tried to make a push billy was so well farmed and rem pocketed him so hard that he team wiped them every time while I was on dedicated creep clean up duty. Eventually the entire enemy team dced due to the stalemate and we won holy fuck this is what dreams are made of I love Billy players.
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what do we think of shiv dash maxxing first and maxxing knifes 3rd or last?
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>>568296161
They literally had almost this exact thing planned for release until the playtesters/retarded pros told them not to
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>>568296683
INITIATE GAWD
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>don't stay near walls when facing abrahams/venator or you'll get stunned
>ok
>don't trade with bebop/mina otherwise they'll get stacks
>ok
>don't engage when dynamo/mo&krill have their ults
>ok
>stay away from walls when facing the doorman or you'll get carted through a door
>NOOOOOOO THAT'S TOO UNFAIR NERD NERF NERF NERF
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>>568296683
enjoy it while it lasts anon, these things dont happen when you get to the ranks where people can read
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>>568292002
1st urn spawns mid. Everything after that spawns in between lanes under the bridge. This prevents early Urn into Mid Boss attempts.
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>>568296161
i like it. Post it on the forums
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>>568294751
>>568294543
>>568294447
>>568294386
Eido probably isn't in a server because he's a retard who can't resist leaking so Valve (like many other E6 niggers like Goober) kicked them from the test servers.
What Eido DOES have is some circle jerker that feeds him info from it so he can strategize for tournaments before updates actually drop.
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>>568296740
The whole point of maxing knives first is to get max value from them before people start buying dispel, so it seems like a questionable plan unless your opponents aren't buying dispel anyway.
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>>568296870
i hate this guy like u wouldnt believe
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>>568296756
>Bebop/Mina got stacks
Lol who cares.
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>>568294720
Melee is not only more balanced, it also has faaaar more skill expression than ultishart.
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>>568295710
How does a Victor end with no damage? How is that physically possible?
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how many of you in this thread right now are larping as a woman as you shrivel your very male genitals with hormones?
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>>568297102
all of us are doing this right now
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>>568297069
outside of the competitive skill expression, melee is terrible in comparison to ultimate or even brawl if you treat it like a regular party game
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>>568296870
I love watching night shift but jesus fucking christ I hate most of the players in the scene right now. They're all faggots with inflated heads and egos.
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>>568297162
thats what makes a professional athlete
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>>568296870
>>568297162
We really need a rank reset so these matchmaking stacking frauds can get exposed (they will just duo or six stack again).
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>>568295150
Absolutely not
Futaniggers would have a field day
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>>568297162
US is better than EU NS but EU personalities are sooooo much better and they're less faggoty.
>"bug exploit?" "no"
I said better not 'good'.
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The only pro player I like is Zerggy.
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why is everyone saying mystic expansion is broken? i tested it with warden cage's cast range and it clearly works, at least in hideout
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>>568297510
It's just a UI bug, it still gives the aoe in practice but the numerical readout in the UI will say it gives +0%.
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>>568292870
>Brawl Metaknight
>Smash 4 Bayo
>Ultimate Steve

Sakurai is a horrible balancer.
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>>568297102
>>568297158
I have a flopping tranny deadcock, silver main btw
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>all this urn discussion
You guys don't actually play that joke game mode right? Street brawl is the White man's game mode.
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>>568297786
retard
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>>568297160
>If you play like a retarded lobotomite ultimate is actually a good game.

Fuck, guess street brawl is the way deadlock should go. Lanes replaced with payload kart when?
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I fucking love hating Eido desu.
I loooove making fun of him.
I fucking pointing out that he's a washed up shitter who isn't really that talented but makes up for it with the fact that he's been constantly playing and has had an 'IN' on the scene for a while now.
He's so fucking hateable and it's so fun laughing at him when he fucks up like the retard he is.
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Street brawl respects your time. You don't have to waste 30 mins to 1 hour because some guy died 8 times in 10 minutes
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>>568297989
waves are kind of like a payload if you think about it
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>>568298018
do you fantasize that eido archive searches his name to read your posts and cry
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>>568298312
No that's gay.
I just want him to have more fuck ups on night shift that I can laugh at.
Niggers like Vegas and Goober I unironically want to become irrelevant because they're genuinely insufferable as people and try to get people to fellate them.
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>play Silver
>drop 12 ranks
God it really sucks playing a non-macro hero.
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>Went from ritualist 6 to seeker 6
It's fuarking over...
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>shiv with comeback urn defense increase
this monkey is literally invincible
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>play Silver
>
God it's really great how she sucks
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>>568298987
>>568298987
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>>568298018
gay
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>>568293625
>caring about esports



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